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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To join us now and to help us navigate what
happened today. As we anticipated there would be some news,
just not this kind. It was a Damian Parson from
Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We talked during the break, man, you have a new
standard with the Cowboys, like until something happens, you just
can't watch the games right and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
There has to be it has to be, Man, this
is not It's not something I expected. The Terry McLaurin
stuff in Washington. That thing has been deteriorating, you know,
for a while now, So you expected the agent and
receivers say, you know what it is, either pay me
(00:37):
or get or send me you know somewhere else, freight
me out.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Terry's there has been there for a long time with
a lot of best equal thrown the ball.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He deserves the fresh change.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He's been a model citizen throughout that entire time. And yeah,
now to fast forward to today and Jerry Jones and I
think I saw a quote prior to this even happening
where the fans were called were practice channing pay Micah. Yeah,
Jerry or Stevens said he has to want to be
(01:09):
paid first or something.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's even if it's technically right in the order of things.
You don't, as a billionaire owner or a billionaire's son
get up in front of one hundred billies out there
chanting and say that just stop doing it, or else
you're gonna have this in your ear the whole time.
(01:32):
Us guys out there just like bashing you. Let me
ask you this, though it's messy right now. And and
Damian Parson Leach report is our guest, and you have
always been one of the best in terms of looking
at the game itself. We'll talk the contract and all
that a minute, but let's assume he doesn't play for
the Cowboys at least this year or at all. I mean,
this is a major blow. And you can help fans
(01:53):
understand why because as Irakuo's one of the young guys
they've drafted. Demarian Overshown is a very good player. But
Parsons is that guy that you really have to account for,
probably as much as any edge guy, if not more so,
in the league, because he does so much.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, he's a He's one of those defenders and players
that has his own gravitational pull in terms of where
the offensive lines blocking scheme. Right, you think about what
Philly you know because I know there's been a because
I've engaged in a little bit where I had to
actually write a piece for br because he dropped their
(02:30):
top ten positional ratings and they had Derek Brown over
like a Jayalen Carter. What Jalen does? Yeah, like how
he changes the math for that defense where you know
when he when they break the huddle, where's he aligned?
Is he had one? Is he a zero? Is he
at three tech? Wherever he is, we're sending two people
(02:52):
that direction doesn't really matter. Right. It's the same thing
with Michael Parson. If he's all if he's off ball,
You're like, well, okay, we can't send two people them
off ball. But we got to figure out what is
he doing? Is he blitzing? Is he dropping off in coverage?
Is he gonna sit and spies? He triggering against the run.
And he makes everybody else's job on that defensive line
easier because if you're sliding protection, to me, that means
(03:15):
you get one on ones. Right, Dalen Carter helping Williams
get paid this off season, Josh Sweat get paid this
off season. Michael Parsons that same type of guy. He
has his own gravitational pull and for me, why would
you mess that even like entertain messing that up? Because
how that will? So now you've got cowboy fans putting
(03:36):
Michael Parsons on their social media profile. That's their profile picture.
It's training camp right now.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The timing of it is so horrible. This could have
been if you want to go full nuclear, do it
in May and clean it up, thank you, But you
do it now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a long time. In May, you got okay, we
got two months to figure this out. By June, I
mean by in the July, early in August, we're fine. No,
we're going into the first week of preseason next week.
What are we doing? And Jerry Jones and I consistently
say this, he is the type of owner that writes
checks that the players have to cash. But now it's
(04:14):
not for you to run an actual check. And you're
twiddling your thumbs in your office, ready to go on
your radio show and threaten to fire someone and all
of the foolishness. Sit down, be a owner and do
your job, like take care of the players, your top players,
because you know what they also says to the players
is coming up. If I'm a top tier prospect in
(04:37):
the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. You know a team
I probably don't want to go to the Dallas Cowboys.
They've done this song and dance with their top players
too many times. And that's why for me, if you
were asking all the time, like, hey, are you an
NFL or college football guy? I'm more college football? Yes? Nil?
Is there transfer port? I get all that stuff? What
it still is it's still amates, it's still it's cool.
(05:00):
Or you still have the pageantry. Oh yes, you don't
have players phoning it in completely because you know what,
I didn't get paid yet, so I'm not showing up. No,
you've got to show up. First of all, you're in school,
you have no choice. You're here, you know what I mean,
And you're trying to get to the league. Once you
get to the league, you can pull these type of
stunts or do whatever. And the NFL just does so
much weird business with contracts. I just jerry, you, you
(05:24):
do this to yourself. Like I've never seen somebody by
their own shoes and then wonder why they're tripping.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think they give them the shoes with those laces.
At this point, he just got to find which one
goes on which he's walking around barefoot in the office.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's pretty sight. David Parsons, our guest here.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I will say this man, we could go miles and
miles down the road in this conversation, but we had
about three minutes left. And you look at the history
of the Cowboys, which I mean if you follow the
NFL like I have since the early nineties and late eighties,
and you kind of know the Jerry Jones story of
coming in and taking things over and get rid of
Lamb and bringing in Jimmy. And you know, we've kind
(06:03):
of had this topic today. What was the biggest fumble
all time? Was it what he did today with my
cub Basically? Is it Jimmy Johnson? I think we all
agree it's probably Jimmy. Still, it gets back to the
point about who Jerry is at his core. It's the
fact that, look, for so long he has been the
king not only of his own domain, but kind of
rules the NFL in a lot of ways. He's kind
(06:23):
of like it's unspoken, but he kind of runs the
commissioner at times. He's in charge of so many committees.
And I think it's a really good signal that Parsons
and will getta. Whatever you think about David m'getta, a
lot of people have opinions, but he's representing his player's interest.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Stood up for the first time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Nobody's ever done this to Jerry, none of his players,
and pretty much called him out to the carpet and
said something has to change. I'm not playing here anymore.
I think there's a way back. There's always a way
back if Jerry gets the check book out. But something
had to be done, and we got about two minutes
left here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'll just leave it to you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The next steps here, I mean, they've got to start
figuring out what they'll do collectively on their own parties.
I've never seen Jerry Jones traded player of this caliber.
I don't think it starts today. This could be.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You would have to send the Kings ransom. You would
have to send like you know, Panther fans are like, yeah,
let's let's go get Michael. I'm like, just be prepared
the part ways at least three first round things. This
is a player in his prime. He's still young. I'm
not giving you. I'm not budgeting for Nick Scourton first
in the second. I need three first, I need.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That we've got ter.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I need that type of deal. But I think this,
I don't believe he's getting traded. I think that Jerry
is going to fold and everything at the post. At
the end of the poker game, Jerry's going to be
handing out the chips and say, here you go, you
got what you wanted, But this time, go to the
bank and cast that check because you have to take
(07:56):
care of this. You already down Tyler Gotton potentially week
one against the Philadelphia Eagles. You want to be without
Micah Parsons too, trying to start the season off against
the super Bowl champs in your division. I'll say this,
You're good. It's a difference Jeffrey Lorie with the Eagles,
understanding that he knows how to build a championship roster
(08:19):
and stay out of the winning You don't. Ever, you
won't talk about that man until the time when you're
talking about winning. Guess who's about Jerry for everything else?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Just whose name I haven't mentioned, and I've been at
camp every day, David Tepper.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's it's kind of they turned the corner there, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right, and you've got the right people in charge, and
it's never going to be that way in Dallas, and
I'll say one more thing for to let you go here.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I can't think.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Maybe it's for disciplinary reasons for another guy, maybe there's
a criminal issue. I can't think of a player that's
been arguably a top five guy in the league all
positions that did not get to the fifth year deal
and it was still lingering out there and you just
left the rod. This is unprecedented, and for a guy
that has endless resources at the ownership side of things
(09:02):
to wait and wait, and he's kind of saying, now,
now you'll get paid, you'll be the best. It's Jerry
wanting to control the narrative and being the Daddy Warbucks
Scrooge McDuck that gives out the biggest checks. That's his legacy.
I got everybody paid more than anybody else. I had
none to.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Show for it at the end. But it's not working.
They're not winning on this track.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And you know, we'll get together next week, Damien Parson
Bleacher Report, and we'll talk about the other meaningful things
in the NFL, like the other thirty one teams.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because I'm all cowboys out man. I am.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Have a good weekend, brother, Yeah you too. Man
To join us now and to help us navigate what
happened today. As we anticipated there would be some news,
just not this kind. It was a Damian Parson from
Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We talked during the break, man, you have a new
standard with the Cowboys, like until something happens, you just
can't watch the games right and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
There has to be it has to be, Man, this
is not It's not something I expected. The Terry McLaurin
stuff in Washington. That thing has been deteriorating, you know,
for a while now, So you expected the agent and
receivers say, you know what it is, either pay me
(00:37):
or get or send me you know somewhere else, freight
me out.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Terry's there has been there for a long time with
a lot of best equal thrown the ball.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He deserves the fresh change.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
He's been a model citizen throughout that entire time. And yeah,
now to fast forward to today and Jerry Jones and I
think I saw a quote prior to this even happening
where the fans were called were practice channing pay Micah. Yeah,
Jerry or Stevens said he has to want to be
(01:09):
paid first or something.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's even if it's technically right in the order of things.
You don't, as a billionaire owner or a billionaire's son
get up in front of one hundred billies out there
chanting and say that just stop doing it, or else
you're gonna have this in your ear the whole time.
(01:32):
Us guys out there just like bashing you. Let me
ask you this, though it's messy right now. And and
Damian Parson Leach report is our guest, and you have
always been one of the best in terms of looking
at the game itself. We'll talk the contract and all
that a minute, but let's assume he doesn't play for
the Cowboys at least this year or at all. I mean,
this is a major blow. And you can help fans
(01:53):
understand why because as Irakuo's one of the young guys
they've drafted. Demarian Overshown is a very good player. But
Parsons is that guy that you really have to account for,
probably as much as any edge guy, if not more so,
in the league, because he does so much.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, he's a He's one of those defenders and players
that has his own gravitational pull in terms of where
the offensive lines blocking scheme. Right, you think about what
Philly you know because I know there's been a because
I've engaged in a little bit where I had to
actually write a piece for br because he dropped their
(02:30):
top ten positional ratings and they had Derek Brown over
like a Jayalen Carter. What Jalen does? Yeah, like how
he changes the math for that defense where you know
when he when they break the huddle, where's he aligned?
Is he had one? Is he a zero? Is he
at three tech? Wherever he is, we're sending two people
(02:52):
that direction doesn't really matter. Right. It's the same thing
with Michael Parson. If he's all if he's off ball,
You're like, well, okay, we can't send two people them
off ball. But we got to figure out what is
he doing? Is he blitzing? Is he dropping off in coverage?
Is he gonna sit and spies? He triggering against the run.
And he makes everybody else's job on that defensive line
easier because if you're sliding protection, to me, that means
(03:15):
you get one on ones. Right, Dalen Carter helping Williams
get paid this off season, Josh Sweat get paid this
off season. Michael Parsons that same type of guy. He
has his own gravitational pull and for me, why would
you mess that even like entertain messing that up? Because
how that will? So now you've got cowboy fans putting
(03:36):
Michael Parsons on their social media profile. That's their profile picture.
It's training camp right now.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The timing of it is so horrible. This could have
been if you want to go full nuclear, do it
in May and clean it up, thank you, But you
do it now.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a long time. In May, you got okay, we
got two months to figure this out. By June, I
mean by in the July, early in August, we're fine. No,
we're going into the first week of preseason next week.
What are we doing? And Jerry Jones and I consistently
say this, he is the type of owner that writes
checks that the players have to cash. But now it's
(04:14):
not for you to run an actual check. And you're
twiddling your thumbs in your office, ready to go on
your radio show and threaten to fire someone and all
of the foolishness. Sit down, be a owner and do
your job, like take care of the players, your top players,
because you know what they also says to the players
is coming up. If I'm a top tier prospect in
(04:37):
the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. You know a team
I probably don't want to go to the Dallas Cowboys.
They've done this song and dance with their top players
too many times. And that's why for me, if you
were asking all the time, like, hey, are you an
NFL or college football guy? I'm more college football? Yes? Nil?
Is there transfer port? I get all that stuff? What
it still is it's still amates, it's still it's cool.
(05:00):
Or you still have the pageantry. Oh yes, you don't
have players phoning it in completely because you know what,
I didn't get paid yet, so I'm not showing up. No,
you've got to show up. First of all, you're in school,
you have no choice. You're here, you know what I mean,
And you're trying to get to the league. Once you
get to the league, you can pull these type of
stunts or do whatever. And the NFL just does so
much weird business with contracts. I just jerry, you, you
(05:24):
do this to yourself. Like I've never seen somebody by
their own shoes and then wonder why they're tripping.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think they give them the shoes with those laces.
At this point, he just got to find which one
goes on which he's walking around barefoot in the office.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's pretty sight. David Parsons, our guest here.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I will say this man, we could go miles and
miles down the road in this conversation, but we had
about three minutes left. And you look at the history
of the Cowboys, which I mean if you follow the
NFL like I have since the early nineties and late eighties,
and you kind of know the Jerry Jones story of
coming in and taking things over and get rid of
Lamb and bringing in Jimmy. And you know, we've kind
(06:03):
of had this topic today. What was the biggest fumble
all time? Was it what he did today with my
cub Basically? Is it Jimmy Johnson? I think we all
agree it's probably Jimmy. Still, it gets back to the
point about who Jerry is at his core. It's the
fact that, look, for so long he has been the
king not only of his own domain, but kind of
rules the NFL in a lot of ways. He's kind
(06:23):
of like it's unspoken, but he kind of runs the
commissioner at times. He's in charge of so many committees.
And I think it's a really good signal that Parsons
and will getta. Whatever you think about David m'getta, a
lot of people have opinions, but he's representing his player's interest.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Stood up for the first time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Nobody's ever done this to Jerry, none of his players,
and pretty much called him out to the carpet and
said something has to change. I'm not playing here anymore.
I think there's a way back. There's always a way
back if Jerry gets the check book out. But something
had to be done, and we got about two minutes
left here.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'll just leave it to you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The next steps here, I mean, they've got to start
figuring out what they'll do collectively on their own parties.
I've never seen Jerry Jones traded player of this caliber.
I don't think it starts today. This could be.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You would have to send the Kings ransom. You would
have to send like you know, Panther fans are like, yeah,
let's let's go get Michael. I'm like, just be prepared
the part ways at least three first round things. This
is a player in his prime. He's still young. I'm
not giving you. I'm not budgeting for Nick Scourton first
in the second. I need three first, I need.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That we've got ter.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I need that type of deal. But I think this,
I don't believe he's getting traded. I think that Jerry
is going to fold and everything at the post. At
the end of the poker game, Jerry's going to be
handing out the chips and say, here you go, you
got what you wanted, But this time, go to the
bank and cast that check because you have to take
(07:56):
care of this. You already down Tyler Gotton potentially week
one against the Philadelphia Eagles. You want to be without
Micah Parsons too, trying to start the season off against
the super Bowl champs in your division. I'll say this,
You're good. It's a difference Jeffrey Lorie with the Eagles,
understanding that he knows how to build a championship roster
(08:19):
and stay out of the winning You don't. Ever, you
won't talk about that man until the time when you're
talking about winning. Guess who's about Jerry for everything else?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Just whose name I haven't mentioned, and I've been at
camp every day, David Tepper.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's it's kind of they turned the corner there, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right, and you've got the right people in charge, and
it's never going to be that way in Dallas, and
I'll say one more thing for to let you go here.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I can't think.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Maybe it's for disciplinary reasons for another guy, maybe there's
a criminal issue. I can't think of a player that's
been arguably a top five guy in the league all
positions that did not get to the fifth year deal
and it was still lingering out there and you just
left the rod. This is unprecedented, and for a guy
that has endless resources at the ownership side of things
(09:02):
to wait and wait, and he's kind of saying, now,
now you'll get paid, you'll be the best. It's Jerry
wanting to control the narrative and being the Daddy Warbucks
Scrooge McDuck that gives out the biggest checks. That's his legacy.
I got everybody paid more than anybody else. I had
none to.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Show for it at the end. But it's not working.
They're not winning on this track.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And you know, we'll get together next week, Damien Parson
Bleacher Report, and we'll talk about the other meaningful things
in the NFL, like the other thirty one teams.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because I'm all cowboys out man. I am.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Have a good weekend, brother, Yeah you too. Man
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