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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now to break it all down and some
of the big news from today's NFL Wire is Damian
Parson from Bleacher Report. It's been a minute, Dame. How
you been, Bud.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I've been good, guys, I've been good, you know, just
you know, turning the way here in the draft season,
having a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Look just a bang up
job by the way with Bleacher and with the pod
and everything. Will give you a chance, of course, at
the end of the show to just promote the hell
out of it because we personally, Tray and I love
the show. I mean, it's part of our show prop
all the time. Man, let's get down to brass tax
here with what happened at the combine. And of course
is I always kind of you know, frame it. It's
(00:38):
one piece of the puzzle. It's not the end all
be all. Things will change. There will be pro days,
there will be fifty five mock drafts. I think it
did five last night myself. What was your takeaway from
the quarterbacks? And it wasn't so much what they did do,
it's what they didn't do. Is it that big of
a deal they met obviously with the teams they did
(01:00):
the medicals and then if you guys got a chance
to throw and show off their wares, what did you
think about Shoulder and camp? Where are you with those
two in terms of your board right now?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
They are comfortably my QB one and QB two. I
know there's a lot of rumbling about Schador slipping down boards.
I just advise everybody, it's smoke screen season, you know,
just take everything you hear, no matter what source you
value the most, take it all with a grain of salt.
You know, one thing a scout you know told me
(01:32):
a while back is that the teams put things out.
Teams are willing to speak to the insiders and everything
and give them these buzzy things to tweet out for
a reason. And a lot of times these guys don't
know the true intentions of teams outside of hey, we're
trying to we're trying to move up, or we're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
To do real quick. It's predatory to a certain extent
because they find the young, impressionable guys that are the
graduate bloggers and they all of a sudden. Because I
went through this, I had a scout for Carolina, who
I'm really good friends with. He no longer works there,
but he was a straight shooter. He is a great guy.
Never fed me any bs, but he said, just be
(02:12):
where there's going to be a few guys now that
try to put some information in your core. Just run
it by me. And he was a good friend for
doing that, because we saw that with CJ and Brice
with with the cognitive testing crap, and so I just
wanted to jump in and echo your point there, young
reporters out there, be very careful about what you do
and don't run into Jordan Schultze at of Starbucks. I
(02:34):
hate we were.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sure so I be a small guy named Ian, you
do not want to run in Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I think at five five. I think the tail
of the tape was, is he really I've met Ian
once at Panthers.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm you're.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Not five, but see you're you're like you're a you're
an NFL ish five five. He's an accountant five five.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I can't combat that. That's fair. I mean when we
talk about the quarterbacks and man, I think people have
to understand that A trainer a couple of years ago
told me this and I've never let it go because
I'm big into mental health and everything. I personally go
to therapy myself. I worked with therapists and everything before
(03:24):
coming into this field. And I was like when he
explained it to me that these young men go through
so much anxiety preparing for the combine because it's a
darn if you do darn if you don't situation. If
you run faster and jump higher and test better, then
people think their eyes see on film like they're a
great gauge of athleticism just watching it on a computer
(03:46):
screen that they question, are you really that athlete? Right?
Or you run a jump, you run slower and jump
lower than they expected. Not your stocks on the way down,
because you just can't do that. So now guys are
agents are telling their guys listen, hey, especially quarterbacks, make
them come to your house and throw and watch you
(04:10):
at your pro dage you're throwing the guys. For example,
last weekend we ad Will Howard, you know, Jackson, Darry
We all get into how those guys performed. Will Howard
was out there getting booed every time he threw them all.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We had like half the Ohio State lum was there.
There was packed full of these Buckeye fans and they
were expecting. You know, this just absolute rifle show. And
of course at the combine. Will Howard is not a guy.
You and I both know this. That is a high
level thrower of the football consistently. He is a great athlete,
he is a great clutch player. He's a tough son
(04:45):
of a bitch. But that was the whole spectacle of it.
It makes me uncomfortable times in the mental health angle.
I appreciate that because I've too gone through my journey
much like you and like think about Isaiah Bond. This
kid is a good dude, great. He puts something out
there said I'm gonna run a four to one, and
then they're killing them. Dude, they're killing them even like.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Four three nine, four three nine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
He didn't go out there runn a five five. It's
not like he did.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
God, and they said that He's like, they really killed
him on Twitter. It's just people. I was just talking
to Keith about this after recording. I'll talk to a guy,
a friend of mine who's who does NBA content and stuff,
and he's I actually gonna say the NBA draft Twitter
when it's NBA Draft time, are they just toxic? He's
(05:34):
absolutely not He's like, no, they're not poking holes in
every single part of a guy's game and manufacturing stories
to to like. It's just it's that it's such a negative,
toxic death pool. Come draft. I love draft seasons. What
I do is where I signed the most. I love it,
but I hate that aspect of it, where we get
(05:56):
into the things that aren't football. In my thing is
this I had I explained to somebody onto it earlier
when the cam down the door Sanders and teams saying
he didn't interview. Well, I said, take that with a
green And so I've talked to players about these interviews
and with the masses don't know is how ridiculous these
interviews can be with these teams, Oh my god. And
(06:17):
how they are very depends on what room you're walking into. Man,
you know, I kind of what I can't Which player
was a couple of years ago, Jack, it might have
been with the DK Metcalf maybe walked into I think
might have been him walking into Seattle Seahawks interview.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Room shirtless, shirtless and then and then Pete took his
shirt off.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and listen, man, that's what the camera we can
see the cameras like there's things that go on behind
cools doors, There's attitudes, there's gestures, all of that stuff.
So like you know, certain guys can't walk in and
feel super confident and confident and walk up in their
own skin.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Not to slight this man, and I'm not putting you
in this bucket. You might have a different opinion of him.
But I covered Matt Rule for several years here on
the NFL level. I'm not a big fan, never been
a big fan of his antics. And what the Jay
Higgins did was a hero to all of us to
go up and shake his hand after he told his players,
I want to shake your hand. Higgins is my LB
(07:19):
one by the way for that. But think about in
the context of this, I heard from a scout much
like you hear these things that a very prominent NFC
north and I sound like coward here. For it's Tevin Jenkins.
I'll just say Tevin Jenkins. Somebody told me he bombed
his zoom interview with a particular team that Matt Rules
in charge of. Now think of it from Tevin's I'm
(07:40):
not defending him. He's not the perfect player, but he's
accomplished Sitting on a zoom call with Matt Rule isn't
exactly sitting on a zoom call with maybe some of
the finer minds in the NFL. No, we're disrespecting those
ball but some of the line of questioning and I
know this comes from Rule and some others. These guys
are really the tightest of the tight asses out there.
(08:00):
And like, there's a few coaches and general managers that
just strike me that way. And I'm so glad you
sort of opened up this door to this conversation. Because
we celebrate the combine, we celebrate the draft, and we should,
but it turns into a spectacle. And I'm glad you
brought up the point that Shador and Cam and others
and even Caleb last year and so many others are like, Yeah,
come on out to my campus where I can control
(08:23):
the environment and i can throw the way I want
to throw, and I've got my support staff here, players
taking ownership, and now with an Il and the portal,
it's it's more rubling than other and some of the
old heads in the NFL have have got to start
catching on.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They don't like it, they don't it, they despise it,
and it's so effective. They don't have control anymore. And
when you don't have the leverage, that's the thing, and
that's the scariest thing for the NFL. They see what
happens in the NBA when you get the When the
NBA players have all the leverage, they can force whatever
trade they want. They don't have franchise tags, they get
(08:57):
guaranteed contract. The NFL wants nothing to do it, any
of them. But when you come into this, this situation
of the combine, and you can people say all the time,
let me see the most acinine statement. And this is
from fans media in general. Don't tell me you want
to see a guy compete when I have twelve games
of film of pads where he can he's getting hit.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You're telling me, oh, I want to see.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Him compete, run run forty yards down a stripe? Are
you getting a throat throwing throwing a couple of of
of daggers and and out routes for for them to
ooh and I. And then you got Kurt Warner down there,
who I love, but he's he's just micro critiquing everything
about the ball take. Kurt was so, oh, it's a
(09:42):
perfect dime down the boundary in the most probably nerve
wracking moment of this kid's life, in front of all
these scouts and coaches and and luminaries, and you got
a Hall of Famer standing right behind you. And you
can hear a little too flat on that throw, Jackson,
a little too flat on that throat jail. It's like,
come on, a.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Little bit more arc. So it turns over and I'm like,
you know what, you know what, I understand, Kurt. How
when he's when he's done throwing this throw, walk up
to him and tell him that, you know, hey, a
little more arc on that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, if Arlovsky was down there saying that, somebody
would have punched him.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I like Dan, but it's just becoming so the micromanaging
everything is just bad. So yeah, these quarterbacks man like,
and kudos to the guys that did throw right, But
a lot of times, let's be honest, the guys who
typically throw, they throw because they have to. If they
were in cam Warden Shaw doors shoes were there, especially
cam Wards where they're like, hey, I'm a projected top
(10:42):
five pick. Why am I throwing at the combine? I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
There's no need to gain nothing. You gain nothing from
it in this trap they put you in. And it's
so it's such a pathetic trap now because people are
now starting to understand what the game is. I want
to see him compete. I want to be out there
and compete, and you get these old school guys. I
can already see it in these team meetings, in these
little suites they have. Well you know, why didn't you throw?
(11:07):
Why didn't you want to compete. Let's get to the
bottom of it. It's like he competed should our Sanders
got hit as much as any quarterback in college football
stood Tall, was a seventy five percent passer, was a
model citizen on that team, and a great leader. And look,
I have questions about some of the elements of his
passing game. I think we can all be fair about that.
(11:28):
Same with Camp, same with Jackson and all these guys.
But damn, I mean, they don't grow on trees. I'll
just say this. What does grow on trees this year, apparently,
is defensive tackles, edge rushers, tight ends. There's one guy
I want to ask you about that. Tell me if
I'm crazy. I know they just drafted Dogitavian Sanders. I
(11:48):
gotta see Tyler Warren in a Panther's uniform. There's something
about this kid. Am I over hyping him? Is it
too much? Or should they go edge or maybe defensive
tackle there at eight?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, I'll probably in this tight end, I probably wouldn't
go Tyler war at a I would go best defender
unless Tech McMillan fall. When you want to go, get
that big body guy that trust except trust fall, that
trust ball guy for Bryce right down the boundary, and
I think that's what Tech can can absolutely live. I
want to fix the defense as much as the only
(12:19):
give Bryce the weapons five and thirty nine points allowed
in twenty twenty four. You got to fix that, and
I think you get Derrick Brown back. I would love
to bring back Ashawn Robinson. Let him play, you know,
if he's if he's good at this stage of career
going into next year to play that knows that zero
one tech allow, especially in this three four ever ro defense.
(12:40):
Let Derrick brown play the five tech defensive end on
base downs. Maybe you draft the Mason Graham you draft,
I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't go Shamarsh Stewart because it
is a risky situation with production. Yeah, the production, the
production is not there. But then it's like there's a
couple of schools that are just when you have to
(13:01):
when when you're watching them. I jotted down and the
three schools typically are Ole, Miss, Texas, A and M
and Georgia. When in defensive linement, I know not to
expect a robust technical prowess from them, right, I expect
them to be bowling China shops, shop destroying off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
By these crazy Yes, that's that's how they're growing there.
That that's exactly right, real quick here before we run
out of time, your thoughts on Jalen Walker from Georgia.
Here's here's my two cents. Tell me if I'm wrong
or right, because I trust your opinion as much as anybody.
Demon I think with Evro system there in Carolina, I'm
(13:43):
a little bit worried about going that direction today. I've
seen a lot of hype with him going into the
first and I think he's an outstanding player. He reminds
me a little bit of Loufu with his game. He's
got some Mica to his game in terms of multiplicity.
But the Panthers, you're so right, I mean, they had
a guy named Lebryan ray out there, blessed his heart.
He played like a thousand snaps. The last two years,
they couldn't hold the point of attack, they couldn't set
(14:05):
the edge. I just don't know if adding a chess
piece like that. It feels like a luxury pick. And
I think they need if they're gonna go edge, it
needs to be somebody that has the toolbox to be
able to play the run. And I'm not saying Jalen can't,
but your thoughts on him fitting into an everro scheme
that doesn't really deploy what a guy like him does best,
would just fly around and get after it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, he's got He's got a little bit of that.
Like you said that versatility is like lou Vu, that
mad hatter type of energy. I think for me and
I think I said I said this back in the summer,
which is crazy on the pod. If you play him
at full time and he's a son Reddick and just
with more power, like he is violent, he's strong, and
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I think against tackles he can set the edge and everything.
I think what you want to do is if you
draft him at eight through free agency, you want to
make sure that you build up beef up that D
line before that for that base defense widened him out
a little bit and not have the tackle so easily
(15:12):
accessible to him where they can try to get their
hands on and control him and reps, and then he
can crash down and really play the run from from
a distance rather than putting them too close up on
the line of scrimmage and let that arm length become
a little bit of an issue right against these starting
tackles in the NFL, I think past rush ability, this
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young man has the potentially be eight to ten SAT
guy every year, and he has that Tasmanian devil energy
where he does not stop even if you stop the
first power move the long arm. He's gonna club, he's
gonna rip, he's gonna push, pull, he's gonna do everything
he can to get to the quarterback. He's gonna change
the culture of your defense. And then you're in your
locker room. Just by the way he plays and the
(15:53):
way he carries himself, I wouldn't minded that eight. I
think you just need to beef up that D line
to where you have got that a two gap and
take the attention of that tackle that's gonna be trying
to peel over to him, No, you got to help
that guard because this five tech is gonna get in
that backfiel if you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I totally agree, and I think where they can get
better beside Derek Brown is through free agency. Get that
done with guys like Bobby Brown from maybe LA who
knows Zephyro. You got Draymond Jones out there. They've got
to have bona fide guys that aren't coming off the
practice squad set in the edge and this is from
week one. Anyway, we could go all day with this,
Damian Parson bleacher Report dot com. Let's promote everything you
do in including the show with Keith and what else
(16:33):
you got going on here as we lead up to
the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'm in of course all Scottland reports, quarterbacks, running backs, receivers,
tight ends even so I'm doing some safeties now over
Bleach Report. So check out bleach report dot com for
those reports. We're going through like a update, website update
and everything like that to change away things will you know,
things of that nature, So just be on the lookout
(16:55):
of that. It should be a lot of that stuff
flooding in over the next two weeks and of course
breaking down for I actually just broke down, like two
weeks ago, broke down Gentleen Walker's film over on my
YouTube channel, The Scouting Room, So go check that out,
go subscribe, watch that video. I have a Walter Nolan
video coming up next. Someone requested Mike Greens, so I'm
gonna get into that in the coming days as well.
So got a lot of content put out there.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Dame, you're the best man. I appreciate all you do anytime. Man,
Joining us now to break it all down and some
of the big news from today's NFL Wire is Damian
Parson from Bleacher Report. It's been a minute, Dame. How
you been, Bud.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I've been good, guys, I've been good, you know, just
you know, turning the way here in the draft season,
having a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Look just a bang up
job by the way with Bleacher and with the pod
and everything. Will give you a chance, of course, at
the end of the show to just promote the hell
out of it because we personally, Tray and I love
the show. I mean, it's part of our show prop
all the time. Man, let's get down to brass tax
here with what happened at the combine. And of course
is I always kind of you know, frame it. It's
(00:38):
one piece of the puzzle. It's not the end all
be all. Things will change. There will be pro days,
there will be fifty five mock drafts. I think it
did five last night myself. What was your takeaway from
the quarterbacks? And it wasn't so much what they did do,
it's what they didn't do. Is it that big of
a deal they met obviously with the teams they did
(01:00):
the medicals and then if you guys got a chance
to throw and show off their wares, what did you
think about Shoulder and camp? Where are you with those
two in terms of your board right now?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
They are comfortably my QB one and QB two. I
know there's a lot of rumbling about Schador slipping down boards.
I just advise everybody, it's smoke screen season, you know,
just take everything you hear, no matter what source you
value the most, take it all with a grain of salt.
You know, one thing a scout you know told me
(01:32):
a while back is that the teams put things out.
Teams are willing to speak to the insiders and everything
and give them these buzzy things to tweet out for
a reason. And a lot of times these guys don't
know the true intentions of teams outside of hey, we're
trying to we're trying to move up, or we're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
To do real quick. It's predatory to a certain extent
because they find the young, impressionable guys that are the
graduate bloggers and they all of a sudden. Because I
went through this, I had a scout for Carolina, who
I'm really good friends with. He no longer works there,
but he was a straight shooter. He is a great guy.
Never fed me any bs, but he said, just be
(02:12):
where there's going to be a few guys now that
try to put some information in your core. Just run
it by me. And he was a good friend for
doing that, because we saw that with CJ and Brice
with with the cognitive testing crap, and so I just
wanted to jump in and echo your point there, young
reporters out there, be very careful about what you do
and don't run into Jordan Schultze at of Starbucks. I
(02:34):
hate we were.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sure so I be a small guy named Ian, you
do not want to run in Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I think at five five. I think the tail
of the tape was, is he really I've met Ian
once at Panthers.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm you're.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Not five, but see you're you're like you're a you're
an NFL ish five five. He's an accountant five five.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I can't combat that. That's fair. I mean when we
talk about the quarterbacks and man, I think people have
to understand that A trainer a couple of years ago
told me this and I've never let it go because
I'm big into mental health and everything. I personally go
to therapy myself. I worked with therapists and everything before
(03:24):
coming into this field. And I was like when he
explained it to me that these young men go through
so much anxiety preparing for the combine because it's a
darn if you do darn if you don't situation. If
you run faster and jump higher and test better, then
people think their eyes see on film like they're a
great gauge of athleticism just watching it on a computer
(03:46):
screen that they question, are you really that athlete? Right?
Or you run a jump, you run slower and jump
lower than they expected. Not your stocks on the way down,
because you just can't do that. So now guys are
agents are telling their guys listen, hey, especially quarterbacks, make
them come to your house and throw and watch you
(04:10):
at your pro dage you're throwing the guys. For example,
last weekend we ad Will Howard, you know, Jackson, Darry
We all get into how those guys performed. Will Howard
was out there getting booed every time he threw them all.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We had like half the Ohio State lum was there.
There was packed full of these Buckeye fans and they
were expecting. You know, this just absolute rifle show. And
of course at the combine. Will Howard is not a guy.
You and I both know this. That is a high
level thrower of the football consistently. He is a great athlete,
he is a great clutch player. He's a tough son
(04:45):
of a bitch. But that was the whole spectacle of it.
It makes me uncomfortable times in the mental health angle.
I appreciate that because I've too gone through my journey
much like you and like think about Isaiah Bond. This
kid is a good dude, great. He puts something out
there said I'm gonna run a four to one, and
then they're killing them. Dude, they're killing them even like.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Four three nine, four three nine.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
He didn't go out there runn a five five. It's
not like he did.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
God, and they said that He's like, they really killed
him on Twitter. It's just people. I was just talking
to Keith about this after recording. I'll talk to a guy,
a friend of mine who's who does NBA content and stuff,
and he's I actually gonna say the NBA draft Twitter
when it's NBA Draft time, are they just toxic? He's
(05:34):
absolutely not He's like, no, they're not poking holes in
every single part of a guy's game and manufacturing stories
to to like. It's just it's that it's such a negative,
toxic death pool. Come draft. I love draft seasons. What
I do is where I signed the most. I love it,
but I hate that aspect of it, where we get
(05:56):
into the things that aren't football. In my thing is
this I had I explained to somebody onto it earlier
when the cam down the door Sanders and teams saying
he didn't interview. Well, I said, take that with a
green And so I've talked to players about these interviews
and with the masses don't know is how ridiculous these
interviews can be with these teams, Oh my god. And
(06:17):
how they are very depends on what room you're walking into. Man,
you know, I kind of what I can't Which player
was a couple of years ago, Jack, it might have
been with the DK Metcalf maybe walked into I think
might have been him walking into Seattle Seahawks interview.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Room shirtless, shirtless and then and then Pete took his
shirt off.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and listen, man, that's what the camera we can
see the cameras like there's things that go on behind
cools doors, There's attitudes, there's gestures, all of that stuff.
So like you know, certain guys can't walk in and
feel super confident and confident and walk up in their
own skin.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Not to slight this man, and I'm not putting you
in this bucket. You might have a different opinion of him.
But I covered Matt Rule for several years here on
the NFL level. I'm not a big fan, never been
a big fan of his antics. And what the Jay
Higgins did was a hero to all of us to
go up and shake his hand after he told his players,
I want to shake your hand. Higgins is my LB
(07:19):
one by the way for that. But think about in
the context of this, I heard from a scout much
like you hear these things that a very prominent NFC
north and I sound like coward here. For it's Tevin Jenkins.
I'll just say Tevin Jenkins. Somebody told me he bombed
his zoom interview with a particular team that Matt Rules
in charge of. Now think of it from Tevin's I'm
(07:40):
not defending him. He's not the perfect player, but he's
accomplished Sitting on a zoom call with Matt Rule isn't
exactly sitting on a zoom call with maybe some of
the finer minds in the NFL. No, we're disrespecting those
ball but some of the line of questioning and I
know this comes from Rule and some others. These guys
are really the tightest of the tight asses out there.
(08:00):
And like, there's a few coaches and general managers that
just strike me that way. And I'm so glad you
sort of opened up this door to this conversation. Because
we celebrate the combine, we celebrate the draft, and we should,
but it turns into a spectacle. And I'm glad you
brought up the point that Shador and Cam and others
and even Caleb last year and so many others are like, Yeah,
come on out to my campus where I can control
(08:23):
the environment and i can throw the way I want
to throw, and I've got my support staff here, players
taking ownership, and now with an Il and the portal,
it's it's more rubling than other and some of the
old heads in the NFL have have got to start
catching on.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They don't like it, they don't it, they despise it,
and it's so effective. They don't have control anymore. And
when you don't have the leverage, that's the thing, and
that's the scariest thing for the NFL. They see what
happens in the NBA when you get the When the
NBA players have all the leverage, they can force whatever
trade they want. They don't have franchise tags, they get
(08:57):
guaranteed contract. The NFL wants nothing to do it, any
of them. But when you come into this, this situation
of the combine, and you can people say all the time,
let me see the most acinine statement. And this is
from fans media in general. Don't tell me you want
to see a guy compete when I have twelve games
of film of pads where he can he's getting hit.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You're telling me, oh, I want to see.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Him compete, run run forty yards down a stripe? Are
you getting a throat throwing throwing a couple of of
of daggers and and out routes for for them to
ooh and I. And then you got Kurt Warner down there,
who I love, but he's he's just micro critiquing everything
about the ball take. Kurt was so, oh, it's a
(09:42):
perfect dime down the boundary in the most probably nerve
wracking moment of this kid's life, in front of all
these scouts and coaches and and luminaries, and you got
a Hall of Famer standing right behind you. And you
can hear a little too flat on that throw, Jackson,
a little too flat on that throat jail. It's like,
come on, a.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Little bit more arc. So it turns over and I'm like,
you know what, you know what, I understand, Kurt. How
when he's when he's done throwing this throw, walk up
to him and tell him that, you know, hey, a
little more arc on that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know, if Arlovsky was down there saying that, somebody
would have punched him.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I like Dan, but it's just becoming so the micromanaging
everything is just bad. So yeah, these quarterbacks man like,
and kudos to the guys that did throw right, But
a lot of times, let's be honest, the guys who
typically throw, they throw because they have to. If they
were in cam Warden Shaw doors shoes were there, especially
cam Wards where they're like, hey, I'm a projected top
(10:42):
five pick. Why am I throwing at the combine? I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
There's no need to gain nothing. You gain nothing from
it in this trap they put you in. And it's
so it's such a pathetic trap now because people are
now starting to understand what the game is. I want
to see him compete. I want to be out there
and compete, and you get these old school guys. I
can already see it in these team meetings, in these
little suites they have. Well you know, why didn't you throw?
(11:07):
Why didn't you want to compete. Let's get to the
bottom of it. It's like he competed should our Sanders
got hit as much as any quarterback in college football
stood Tall, was a seventy five percent passer, was a
model citizen on that team, and a great leader. And look,
I have questions about some of the elements of his
passing game. I think we can all be fair about that.
(11:28):
Same with Camp, same with Jackson and all these guys.
But damn, I mean, they don't grow on trees. I'll
just say this. What does grow on trees this year, apparently,
is defensive tackles, edge rushers, tight ends. There's one guy
I want to ask you about that. Tell me if
I'm crazy. I know they just drafted Dogitavian Sanders. I
(11:48):
gotta see Tyler Warren in a Panther's uniform. There's something
about this kid. Am I over hyping him? Is it
too much? Or should they go edge or maybe defensive
tackle there at eight?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, I'll probably in this tight end, I probably wouldn't
go Tyler war at a I would go best defender
unless Tech McMillan fall. When you want to go, get
that big body guy that trust except trust fall, that
trust ball guy for Bryce right down the boundary, and
I think that's what Tech can can absolutely live. I
want to fix the defense as much as the only
(12:19):
give Bryce the weapons five and thirty nine points allowed
in twenty twenty four. You got to fix that, and
I think you get Derrick Brown back. I would love
to bring back Ashawn Robinson. Let him play, you know,
if he's if he's good at this stage of career
going into next year to play that knows that zero
one tech allow, especially in this three four ever ro defense.
(12:40):
Let Derrick brown play the five tech defensive end on
base downs. Maybe you draft the Mason Graham you draft,
I wouldn't. I probably wouldn't go Shamarsh Stewart because it
is a risky situation with production. Yeah, the production, the
production is not there. But then it's like there's a
couple of schools that are just when you have to
(13:01):
when when you're watching them. I jotted down and the
three schools typically are Ole, Miss, Texas, A and M
and Georgia. When in defensive linement, I know not to
expect a robust technical prowess from them, right, I expect
them to be bowling China shops, shop destroying off.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
By these crazy Yes, that's that's how they're growing there.
That that's exactly right, real quick here before we run
out of time, your thoughts on Jalen Walker from Georgia.
Here's here's my two cents. Tell me if I'm wrong
or right, because I trust your opinion as much as anybody.
Demon I think with Evro system there in Carolina, I'm
(13:43):
a little bit worried about going that direction today. I've
seen a lot of hype with him going into the
first and I think he's an outstanding player. He reminds
me a little bit of Loufu with his game. He's
got some Mica to his game in terms of multiplicity.
But the Panthers, you're so right, I mean, they had
a guy named Lebryan ray out there, blessed his heart.
He played like a thousand snaps. The last two years,
they couldn't hold the point of attack, they couldn't set
(14:05):
the edge. I just don't know if adding a chess
piece like that. It feels like a luxury pick. And
I think they need if they're gonna go edge, it
needs to be somebody that has the toolbox to be
able to play the run. And I'm not saying Jalen can't,
but your thoughts on him fitting into an everro scheme
that doesn't really deploy what a guy like him does best,
would just fly around and get after it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, he's got He's got a little bit of that.
Like you said that versatility is like lou Vu, that
mad hatter type of energy. I think for me and
I think I said I said this back in the summer,
which is crazy on the pod. If you play him
at full time and he's a son Reddick and just
with more power, like he is violent, he's strong, and
(14:51):
I think against tackles he can set the edge and everything.
I think what you want to do is if you
draft him at eight through free agency, you want to
make sure that you build up beef up that D
line before that for that base defense widened him out
a little bit and not have the tackle so easily
(15:12):
accessible to him where they can try to get their
hands on and control him and reps, and then he
can crash down and really play the run from from
a distance rather than putting them too close up on
the line of scrimmage and let that arm length become
a little bit of an issue right against these starting
tackles in the NFL, I think past rush ability, this
(15:32):
young man has the potentially be eight to ten SAT
guy every year, and he has that Tasmanian devil energy
where he does not stop even if you stop the
first power move the long arm. He's gonna club, he's
gonna rip, he's gonna push, pull, he's gonna do everything
he can to get to the quarterback. He's gonna change
the culture of your defense. And then you're in your
locker room. Just by the way he plays and the
(15:53):
way he carries himself, I wouldn't minded that eight. I
think you just need to beef up that D line
to where you have got that a two gap and
take the attention of that tackle that's gonna be trying
to peel over to him, No, you got to help
that guard because this five tech is gonna get in
that backfiel if you don't.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I totally agree, and I think where they can get
better beside Derek Brown is through free agency. Get that
done with guys like Bobby Brown from maybe LA who
knows Zephyro. You got Draymond Jones out there. They've got
to have bona fide guys that aren't coming off the
practice squad set in the edge and this is from
week one. Anyway, we could go all day with this,
Damian Parson bleacher Report dot com. Let's promote everything you
do in including the show with Keith and what else
(16:33):
you got going on here as we lead up to
the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'm in of course all Scottland reports, quarterbacks, running backs, receivers,
tight ends even so I'm doing some safeties now over
Bleach Report. So check out bleach report dot com for
those reports. We're going through like a update, website update
and everything like that to change away things will you know,
things of that nature, So just be on the lookout
(16:55):
of that. It should be a lot of that stuff
flooding in over the next two weeks and of course
breaking down for I actually just broke down, like two
weeks ago, broke down Gentleen Walker's film over on my
YouTube channel, The Scouting Room, So go check that out,
go subscribe, watch that video. I have a Walter Nolan
video coming up next. Someone requested Mike Greens, so I'm
gonna get into that in the coming days as well.
So got a lot of content put out there.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Dame, you're the best man. I appreciate all you do anytime. Man,
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