Episode 191: A Deal With the Devil

Today we are talking everything Ironheart! Join us for our full recap and review.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 3 (01:11):
What is good? Everybody and how are we doing today? Great?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:19):
That we did.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, doom popped up and we had those like that,
So I keep I keep my old school, old.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
School ones in the tuck somewhere too. We got did
in the building.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
What is happening people? What is happening in people? I
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a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's fading at home shirt now.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
We got tripping the building?

Speaker 7 (01:44):
What's going on everybody? As motherfucking.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I'm actually I'm actually pretty decent. I'm not even gonna
lie to you. That's because I know you not.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
I position fans for y'all perfectly. It was getting this
corner that was a little tough.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I I mean, I'm maneuver a little bit. This one
that brought up a little closer and like it's gonna
be I'm about to hit the highest. Don't nobody hear us?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Feeling nothing from there?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
We got king, got the shop.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
What to do?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Everybody? How you're doing great? Doing great?

Speaker 8 (02:16):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:19):
It is hot as a motherfucker. And this motherfucker man.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Like I said, So we are talking Ironheart today, you know, say,
we might be giving y'all a quick hour for those
who watch cav on stage and everything like that, you
wonder you know what a quick hour is, but like
it's hiding this motherfucker. So we're gonna tell it out.
We're gonna talk iron Heart and everything. Everybody is all
caught up a party.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Watching it on the walking in which I like, and
I'm and I'm glad I did because I was definitely
y'all y'all kept a tight lip. Y'all kept a tight lip.
I appreciate that, even me saying like y'all just talking
about it, like trying to say work or I'm like,
work around it?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
All right, So real quick? Four series there, get it
out of five eagles.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Now where are we at? I stopped with your guardian
since you were most recently.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I don't know what I had. I think I had
three and a half and now, but this is the four.
I'll give it four, solid four four.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I'm gonna give it.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
A solid for as well. Solid for three and a half.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I mean, I'm really I'm really got knocked down to
a three. It was really in between that, like, I really,
I'm really giving it a four because I actually enjoyed
the ending.

Speaker 8 (03:28):
I think the three and a half is hired for
you because I think he gave it a three last time,
gave it.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Three and a half. Last time it almost got knocked down.
I was like, I was the only reason it got
to it four because I actually liked the ending, Like
I like it, okay, all right, King, I was like, Okay,
I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm gonna give it.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
I'm gonna give it a four solid for it could
be it could be higher for me.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Could be high.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
I was not playing the four point five right right.
I was definitely up until minutes ago, I was feeling
four point five.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
No.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
No, But as I process it, I'm not because I
think the whole thing is looking at it from how
both sides try to knock you, what people looked at
the negatives for and then to see the twist at
the end, It's like I enjoyed the whole thing me too,
you know what I'm saying, Like the whole thing brought
it in the only thing is like, and what qualifies

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for me a good show is I need to know
what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Then yeah, they left me feeling like yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
That's why I got it for the heavy three point
five and the end it gave me like, Okay.

Speaker 8 (04:33):
The reason why I gave it the four is the
reason that King said it should have been the four
point five is the fact that it left me one
and more and I know that we're not getting more.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Well, they said we were not getting more.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
You know, the reaction and the reception from it might
force their hand a little bit, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I give it a solid four.

Speaker 8 (04:51):
I like the way the back half wrapped it all
up nicely, uh because the first three was definitely a struggle,
but that back half wrapped it up nicety and nice
and tight.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
So all right, what to do?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Bow?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So for those just a quick recap.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
No, we're just starting to we're just starting it, bro
So just just a quick recap on kind of like
generally what ended up, where we was left at and
what ended up happening. So in Arn't Heart series were
dealing with Rary Williams. All right, she wants to be big,
as she keeps on saying it. She got kicked out
of m I T for just doing one selling projects
done to pretty.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Much as in Ivy League, everybody right, doing everybody homework.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
But she was doing it to fuel the suit.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Her goal was to make a suit that is just
improved on time and speed because you know, in her
in her life, unfortunately her dad and her best friend
got killed in the drive by, and she felt like
that the EMTs took too long to get there and
that she had she was left helpless, right, So we're
dealing with that, and then Rary Williams she gets, you know,
sucked up into the underbelly of the of Marvel dealing

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with the Hood and everything like that, and the high
school was wrong. And then she inadvertently but uh but
intend she had to do it. She killed kill the
Hood's brother, and then the Hood obviously getting his power
i mean cousin, yeah, Hood getting his powers from some
mystery entity. At this moment when we had it, you know,
he's he's talking, he's trying to figure.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
He's talking to him like what happened?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Why?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Why did this have to happen?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
And then the entity shows him that Ary Williams was
the one who killed or her brother responsible for i
mean her of his cousin's death. So we sow these
this latter back half is dealing with the aftermath of that,
the you know, okay, what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And remember we only got three episodes, so I knew
that it wasn't going to be you.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Know, drawn out or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
It was going to be all right, what we're dealing
with this and then like so, and then the hood
immediately getting into like his full on villain, his bag
against the team and everything like that, so, you know,
and then also the aftermath of dealing with what's his name,
I can't think his name.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, John Mcgillamgilla.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
John A Joe aka Joe a k A. You know,
Zeke's son. You know what I'm saying, because he was Zeke.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah. So that's where that's where we're currently at in
regards to that.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
So there was a lot that they set up in
those first three episodes, and that's why I was like,
all right, I want to see how they do these
three back half episodes because Marvel TV, unfortunately has had
an issue with sticking the landing.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
We've seen that with a lot of a lot of.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
The issue with it.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Okay, they definitely stuck the landing here though, Yeah, so
that's it, and I think that that's why I was
excited about it.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
And the people that I knew who watched it.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Beforehand, they that's what they gave me, a reassurance that
was like, look, I'm not gonna spoil anything, but they
stuck the landing on this one.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
And so I was excited about it because remember we
was excited.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
About Circart invasion and then and then it was so disciplined.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
So let's let's let's.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Start off with Zeke.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Let's start off with Zeke's the aftermath with Zeke and
his transformation and.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
The way that he did, because what's this, what's his
villain name?

Speaker 9 (08:01):
He's just going, yeah, he's saying right now, because I
think remember his thing was he wanted to live his truth. Yeah,
he didn't want to be after you know, he didn't
want to be Joe mcgillicutt anymore.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Right right, Well, yeah, he was still trying to figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Because again it was funny because he was saying like
it still he seemed like he was still trying to
fight being Obadiah. But it was just like, bro, everything
is everything except for like just be the building.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
But you see, he did what I said he was
gonna do. He built hmself to a suit.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, turn himself into a full blown suit.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I didn't really care for his powers though. You don't
want to.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Get static shocks, electoral.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's not like a natural evolution for what Obadiah was.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Trying to And I can get that, but I feel
like it was I feel like he was the cheesy
cap off to be like, I'm just gonna let you
keep you all day.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
But that's the that they had. I mean, he took
the prints and just.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Stopped an electric like her.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
It was too obviously, that's what I'm saying, but that
was the whole you start, you start stopping. Even when
he had his more to be like, I'm doing the
same thing over, I was.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Like, but I mean, that's the just a look we
dealt with.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
We're dealing with two mid level bad guys and then
the big bad guys. So it's like, you know, you
gotta think if you're thinking about layers, they can't make
him too op because the hood had to be a
step above him, and the fistal got to be a
step above.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean, I get it, only the step above the
hood because that had admin access that's really that.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
That was the part that I was.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I was mad at that and it was too fast,
like I'm just gonna save the name.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That was that was a little like all right moment.
I was like, really, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
On the walk.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Soon as I saw the name change out, we already
predictable at that point, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Like, I was more bad, like you don't know your body,
You don't know your body irritated me.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
But they get it to re retoot too.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
They put a tracking the vice in her suit when
they to her, I guess mononize herson. So that's why
I didn't understand, Like like you're saying, y'all got all
this tech, all this AI.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
And you didn't notice this this this trojan program.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
I feel like the tracking device is because that's at
least a little bit more understanding.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
But she ridiculous on her part.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
You your whole theme of ADMIN access being I can
just erase a little bit and.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Her initial programming, you know what I mean, he didn't know.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
He was me mad was the gas talk before the
admin changed. But she's like, well, you know, I get
this program. I can like like yeah, she just like, boy,
give it you do of gave it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I got and me as we.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Saw the Hoods crew, they was realized legit soldiers for him.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
They they But I was really bad. I was.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It didn't fully take me out, but I was.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I was mad.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I was mad that he didn't know.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like that's really what made me mad. It was like, Bro,
you didn't when you got booted up and gone and
it started your diagnosis. You didn't be like, wait, hold on,
I don't got to add as you know, I rather
than have had to say that, he went to him
like I didn't tell you could do that and then
you got to deal with it. You didn't make it
me like he thought he had freedom and Doughty popped
up like you really.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Figure the whole for it was like pretty lackluster too.
It's like, bro, get your asking the car.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I did not like like they treated him, so that
starting with it, like the favert, we started with him
just like his redemption.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
But what I know, that's why that's why I wanted
to start with him, because like the main the part
that I did not like about him that they did with.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
His character was that it was the constant like I
feel like they ran that joke to the ground, like like,
come on with me, I ain't going with you, like
you know what you're going with. Like I feel like
at some point you like you posted that you don't
have this free will no more.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
That's the part that I definitely for sure. It was like,
all right, they could have they could have.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean that's what I say. I feel like you
just such a dragon. He like he had no idea.
Of course we had to help him, and it's like, okay,
y'all gonna fight later, Like okay, like I.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Said, bro, when he was that suit out, when he
was that whoa, oh yeah bro. The second fight, it
was still okay.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
But you could tell so much of it was we
just were pushing through to get to the part because I.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Just gotta get past you.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
It was a difference to.

Speaker 9 (12:39):
Everyone put a different fight technique. I think you didn't
want to put hold himself back.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
To yeah, I don't come needed right, because he really
needed his ship to be reset.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's what.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
But that's why I was like, I get why it
was the.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
How quickly it was made.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
It was going through the I did think that we
was gonna see like from that introduction that the Magic
Soup was way showing what Fan was going on. But
she he was really still giving her a problem. Yeah,
like you know, saying, he was really keeping up with her.
And I'm like, I mean, didn't gotta have to figure
out I kick you enoughs like I can't beat you.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
To be fair, she wasn't trying.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Remember, she was actually fighting back from her whole thing
was I just need to get this note onto you.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
The plant.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
The plant from the jump was I gotta stop you
kicking you and gotta stop you her.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Plan figure.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
You're trying to make me think and fights the like
I'm not gonna be able to ask.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
So I understood that, Like I said, it was just
I'm talking about the scene itself. It just felt like
we got, we got, we got with that.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
But also like I said, I mean, I said, I
understood because you remember, that was always going to be
the monkey on her back, like what I did to
to Ze, so she had to find some to at
least get him back to his own free will. I
can't reverse well, shit would have happened you out here now,
But you know what I'm saying. So that's why I
do agree. It was a transitional fight. It was a
more so let's get to the big fight. But it

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was something that she would either it was gonna happen
before or after, because even after she beat the Hood,
she would have had to go back and deal with it.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
You can figure it out.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
And I think it was a setup for whatever they
decided to do because the way they ended it with
their conversation all your friends.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now, I got this.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Hate built up towards me.

Speaker 9 (14:30):
It ain't over that that to me left it because
I didn't feel that was saying I hate you and
you and my nemesis. I think he's saying, like, let
me get this ship off me and then we could talk.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
You know what's I think it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I think it's gonna be comic book Venom and Spider
Man type of relationship. Like like I said, Venom after
a while, he's he's not Spider Man's enemy.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
But it's like, but also, I'll beat your ass like that,
you know, like just.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Like I can't take you, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
So it's like I feel like that that's what they're
setting up for her, like her her will they won't
they villain. You know what I'm saying like, Okay, sometimes cool,
but then like sometimes I can't trust your ass and
ship like that.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I mean I get that cause I can always just
be and who really is I can see her trying
to be like if they were to continue the story,
like she's trying to come back to get help from
him about whatever, you know, the ship she got going on. Now,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, so you know, so obviously, like I said, we
jumped a little bit ahead to talk about Z real quick.
But you know, it's kind of evinced that happened. Like
I said, re resouit, you know what I'm saying. After
re Red and Natalie get into a little beef because Natalie.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Went to go grab old Boy and old Boy was like, yo,
delete you.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean it was like because I mean you
got to kind of combine that too. But like I said,
even in that space, that was the space that was
bothering me because we was really spiraling, like she was
crashing and I was really like, cause if you don't
just talk to your like, bro, you're making me so mad.
Like you know what I'm saying, Like they tell her
she like she was a fly. I can't breathe like
girl breathe.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
What they like?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I get it, but it's like it's all because you're
not telling like it's just you know, it's just the
same kid trope over and over.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
It's like you you made your AI tell the person
you told the least amount of lies to yea, you
know what, I mean, to choose between that person and
your mama, which is crazy because you should be able
to tell your mother. You live with your mother, and
you can't tell your mother, hey I missed gang ship.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
They're coming after us. But it's like that's.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
You're trying to put watches on everybody. You said, anybody
that maybe it's like, bro, you I get it, that's
what it's the kid aspect. But I always was what
I will say, this is the best to me, especially
showing you know, it's making especially in fact there's our people,
but how you know every Woman's show as a really
very heavy family background to it. You're saying this was,

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like I said, I think this was like the best,
even if you were angry what was going on. This
was like the best rendition showing like getting everybody back
together to get real.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
They redid three.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
That's basically what that was was just gonna say that,
you know what I mean, how Iron Man was overprotective
and he kept tinkering and taking in and making all
these suits, and most of those suits was just to
protect Pepper. That's all she was doing isak and taker
and have these watches to protect everybody in the family
sleeping in her suit.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
You gotta remember, like she is her prodigy genius right
so in her mind, and that the constant theme that
we've been seeing on here is that she, yeah, her
intelligence makes up for what she left.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
She believes that she could figure everything out.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
That's why she even when she broke down to her mom,
she kept on saying, I thought I could figure it out,
even and I think one of the themes of this
show was showing like you can't do it alone, because
even when she built her her team, it was like, Okay,
you finally have a team you can't like and you know,
we see that superhero trope all the time. You can't
it can't be one. You gotta have your mad in

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the chair or your person in the chair. You gotta
have the people around you who love you, who know
things about you, who can help out.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And so, like I said, he was given. She was
given a real sass. I was like, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
But say what you say because I think that's gonna
say the same thing. It was a lot, but then
you also you realize teens do be doing that. I mean,
as I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Grown team her twenties by celebrated.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Even more so think you know enough And I was
annoyed by it too, But then I was like, no,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
So so, and I'm gonna say, also, I do like
the representation because the mom.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Was like, how wouldn't how would he make energy?

Speaker 10 (18:45):
Y'all like that, that's because I'll snatch your mombucker smart
ass up we're old or not, I guarantee some twenty
year old from twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
One year old was like, hell yeah, really, don't take
your mama. Ship.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
It's a whole lot of white ends watching.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I like, how you handle her about to get rid
of the business her mom was like, because even when she
was telling her, her mom was like, oh, Ship, She's like, now,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Getting that motherfucker soon?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
She said what I said, bro, she said she I can't,
she said, stupid twenty years old car, You's like hell,
yeah you can't. How you older, you more mature.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
You was like like you better not getting that motherfucking suit.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
But what that show is the different in dynamic between
her relationship with her mom and her relationship with her
stepdad because whenever she asked her stepdad why he did something,
that was.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
Her his answer because I can't. Yeah you know what
I mean. So she took that and you know, gran
with it.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
But it do remind me of like her being so
smart and not realizing the dumb decisions that she's making
because she thinks she's so smart.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
It's just a smart guy.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
Man. The thing is as a as a father with altars,
I do understand right what you're saying. It is definitely
the relationship mother daughter relationship because she wouldn't have said
that said step back, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You like not that manner. But with mom, Mom is
more like a friend than she is.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Like yeah, I mean's figure. And I feel like that
just kind of goes with wherever the kid attaches to,
like whoever the kid really attaches to. If you're daddy's girl,
you definitely mama's friend. You said, that's it.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
You gotta think, like I said in re Read's mind,
and she didn't really portray it heavily. But what I
was getting more like kind of like what you just
said is that it's the it's the creation of it, right.
She so she creates things with her hands, her dad
creates thtays with her hands, so where she may have
respect for her mom, but she probably looking like in
this field, you really can't help me.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Like That's what I was getting from the show a
lot like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I mean it is because you don't know how you
don't know how strong your mother you said, just or
even you know, if you don't really rely on that
kind of space. You look at that person as a part.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
She said.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
She thought to protect you like I got to do stuff,
and I.

Speaker 9 (21:01):
Think that was part of her character development though, yeah,
you know what I mean, like her initial learn we
will get there initial thoughts at the beginning first episode,
I can't trust none of y'all. Everything I do is touched.
But by the end you saw she was more forthcoming
to at least.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Just crashed out asked for you know it was it
wasn't no purpose. She was crashed out.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I'm gonna disagree. I don't think the end, she
would ordered.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Less immediately that's said, Oh yeah, I was like, that's like, oh, y'all.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
Still, it's a new chapter. I don't need that last
I'm gonna leave that back.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
But I think I think, honestly, if we look at
the big picture, she learned, but I also think she
was plotted on the whole absolutely.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
To grow up into that. It was somebody or something
that kind of slid his way.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
In to make her regress bad, you know, because again
it goes to one of the other things, is that
with grief, and because she didn't deal with that grief
the proper way, and even during that whole process, because
you gotta think she rushed into that final battle, there
was stuff they was like, yo, wait, we still got
to check it and the like, and she's so like
she never got that moment to properly grief. And of
course with fist though he's going to lean on that,

(22:17):
but before we get there, because I do want to
talk about one of the shining points of like glaring shining.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Moments of this is the Witch family.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
All my yeah, when she finally when she finally said
to actually her mom, like I need healing, I need this.
I need whatever her mom said something about match or
something like that has sparked it. And that's when we
went to we like I said, Summers and then what's
the actress name?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (22:44):
That place to daughter, But I want to say right
now outside of uh, outside of Agatha, Well.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
She might be my favorite witch to the younger ones.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
She's still a training, might be I would love the
girl with her, like I hope, I hope we get
more of her.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Her because like I said, we get introduced to her
and also come to find out.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Like Chritie Summer's mom, Chummer's character was also she was
she was at butcher name what they called it, but
commerce as well, but then she dropped out to raise
her daughter.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
She got connect changed the ancient one.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
One.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
So it was like and I even love like the
interaction of how they was breaking it down because she
was she was like what you need help with?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
She's like, you need help with that in your pocket?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I feel like that was one of the coldst transitions
because that's as they were like talking, you just really
like what the about the and you like, I feel
like the mob like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
And so when you find up the mom I was like,
I love his interaction already because it was more like
I said, like a parent.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
It was definitely black parents, like you know you're supposed
to be doing that ship.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
When I ain't around, Like she was ambitious, like, oh,
I know what you were.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Let's get the sea. Think about halla advancing was she
took them to a whole nother realm. It wasn't just
the back room.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
It was just a she took them to a whole
other realm workshop Like that was so cool. And then
the way they was breaking it down they venture and everything.
I was like, yeah, I was great. Flow it flows
so great. Like it's like I said, it was such
a it was it was it was.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It was so fast, but it was so satisfying at
the same time. Liked that moment like because it went
through when they got when they saw that get this
like it's like reverse back out of likedy like like
I was in goot into like what the they doing
down here?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
And they're like, you know what you're like.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
And even with the even the Eastern eggs that they
put in there, so like when she grabbed when when
re respond grabbed that that jar worms even comic books.
That's what kind of one of the part of the origins.
Those worms, they are like brain worms or something like that,
and they get and gets stuck in your head and
it takes it's a whole lot of ship to get
them out.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So when she when she ran, she was like your
head and they hard to get out.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I would like, see, I just loved, like said those
little nods back to the comic book origins and everything
like that.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
And so it was like it was that was a
really really dope moment, Like you said, the introduction.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Of her, I saw somebody that was like the cree
Summer's got a hat budget because the same hats.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
The episode before that when they when they first introduced
her first episode, she she.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Didn't have the hat on. I said, that threw me
for a lottle because I'm not using it was traveling
from the last show she was on they lost.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
She took the hat off just for that scene. It
was like, nah, I don't like the way that feels.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Or maybe because that's also the source of witch Fire.
You got to think at that time she was just
regular whomen's goal person. But when she got the hat on,
now she she's back showing them funny is the witch hat.
He's got this cloak that make you know the cloak
is separate.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Though, right.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Whoping around the city, bro, Like, I definitely want flower
top of her head there.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Travel in the world like San Diego's had got eyes.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
And the mouth, just word back and forth to combatize like.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
That.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
So but again, like I said, that's what you that's
when we start realizing. Okay, so now some of our
theories are being confirmed because you know that is dealing
with doctor Strange and them. Like I said, they hinted
that door Ma moved. They didn't really say it at
that moment, but she could tell that she wanted to
say it. But then you know, you know crehut that
ship down.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Like, don't say that name over here, bring that in
my house.

Speaker 11 (26:54):
Which is hilarious because like I said, you know, black
people always talk about eagles and spirits.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
It makes sense that.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Black people would be witches.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean, think about roots, think about all the.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Ship that I mean, you think about sinners, and like
I mean, we definitely, I mean it's part of the
you know whole voodoo and voodoo and all that kind
of things.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
So I mean, yeah, so you know, that's where restarts
trying to take her with her suit because her goal
is she needs to get unlimited power. Right now, he
is the solar power because she doesn't have an arc reactor,
and so she trying to find a different source of power.
She couldn't figure it out, and that she comes to
terms that she needs to infuse technology with magic, which
is something that we I think we all to discuss

(27:32):
and confirm that that's where this was headed.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yes, I mean, and I think that's what I'm saying.
I feel like when they made that statement in the
first half in the commercials, like we gotta start fighting
magic with magic.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, that's what it wasn't even they kind of told.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
You that's I think it was great. Hoty brought it
because I, like I said, I think when we talked
about cooking, my expectations was that stranger it's probably gonna
make a cameo. But it's like and he did like
his word, like you know what I'm saying, Like, his
whole presence is literally the magic part of the show.
So he was able to.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Continue with they definitely fit them straight. It's definitely gonna
has something to dude think. I think that's the whole thing.
They keep trying to have strange interacts with a lot
of the the characters. What is it the Strange Academy?
So I think that's that's the concept.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
I think he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't. I haven't heard nothing about it either.
But it was supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
Saying it's one of those quiety canceled shows that they
had on the block. Really yeah, along with Armor Awards
and but but I.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Could have seen it was still talking about like a
Dark Avengers to those.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Well what they call the not the well, it depends
because what just happened.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Did that turned off? Is that that canna plug?

Speaker 5 (28:44):
One second?

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Yell camera camera one black.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You're gonna have to turn it off and just turn
it back on. Yeah, so it's one of the ones
that got abandoned and now it's back, Okay, like sto.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Can you see it back there?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Like the on the Experience Our Food as far as discol.

Speaker 12 (29:12):
Agree one second, everybody adn't come back on.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
There you go, We're back.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
All right?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
So yeah, so this is right, Like I said, Strange
Academy was a show that got abandoned. It was it
was on the slate then it got abandoned. But because
of how they how things are being set up and
how they're talking about, I guess it looks like it
might be a resurgence.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Because this was also filmed in twenty twenty one, twenty two,
so this was filmed a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
But you know, they didn't do reshoots, but not enough.
It wasn't extensive reshoots, So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
So I don't know how much was one of we
don't know how much was added those reshoots or whatever.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I think a lot of, right, And I was just
saying a lot of it could be c G I
two So really right.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, I was gonna say, if you gotta think the
only real setup to a Strange Academy, if we're keeping
it a being, is that post post credit scene, and
that's that's an easy reshoot.

Speaker 8 (30:32):
Well, I mean, I think all of Zema's story arc
in this series so far is that Strange Academy itself.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I agreeve there.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
What I'm saying is like, all right, that could have
been just a nod, right, Like everything from the series
so far could have just been a nod to a
Strange Academy. But that last post credit scene seemed like
it was a set up to something, and that I
can see them pivoting that one as a reshoot to
a Strange Academy.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, bringing him her, bringing fam down, Strange Acado. I
can see that.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I can see that because, like I said, if you
let's say there was no other Strange Academy and we
don't have that post credit scene, everything else still feels
like it like all ship they were talking about Strange Academy,
and we can leave it at that and just be
and just wonder if we're gonna get more. But like
that last post credit scene definitely seemed like it was
a setup towards something.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I get it, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I like that idea because I mean, because Zelma doesn't
know how bad Bro is, so to bring him in,
even if they were saying Zelma to be like, all right, well,
you gonna kind of be a little hero of this
like show because you brought this dude there who now
seeks all this power of met becomes bad to school.
And now you've seen me with some friends and trying
to start you know, I'm saying, so it's an easy
bringing you know what I'm saying, But like I said,

(31:44):
I feel like I feel like a lot of is
riding on the hype of this and hype of that.
Like I feel like there was a reshoot. It was that,
Like I feel like that to see if, like, if
everybody likes to show with enough, could we use strings?
Could we bring Strange Academy from me?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
The reshoots happened. It looks let me see it. It
looks like it happened last year.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
So that announcement about Strange Academy being like being not
one of the three they because they never when it
never got really officially confirmed.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
But also when they said, hey, these.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Three shows that were rumored aren't coming was in February
of this year, so that would have even then. That's
why I'm like, I get what y'all saying. But FAM
came back and was like, we cutting a lot of
this stuff. We don't yet know, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh yeah, I meant to that though.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Is this Strange Academy could have always just been an idea,
right they said, we dropped some Easter eggs whatever like that.
But now, like I said, if there's no script yet,
and they'd be like, okay, well, let's build off of this.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
That that that that gives me. That actually gives me
more confidence that we can lead to a Strange Academy
because oh, you got much more hope and boy bikers
than I do. Because he's strictly.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Said, you know, a cliffhanger. It probably like I said,
Strange Academy probably wasn't like gonna's gonna be just left
as a cliffhanger until we even get back into Stranger's story.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
Or they like they built that and they build that
into a different part of like another movie, like we
don't know what, we don't know what they're going, where
they're going with doctor Strange thing.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Like I said, I'm not this kind that she ain't gonnappear,
but a Strange Academy series, I just.

Speaker 9 (33:18):
Comment, that's what a series though, like they're not they're
not really strict like that on series. I feel like
if they need it, they'll they'll do. It has to
be a serious strange It could be, it could be
a movie.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
It could be.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
But I'm saying me personally, I love a serious but
I'm thinking, you know how they're saying no, no, no,
we're not on that. A lot of this is built
on what the people want. So if the people asking
for it, they they will.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
We see things like I just like it's still sit
because I feel like we're just not in strangest universe yet.
Well here's I feel like.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
When they get back to the table, because here's again
I think when movie what I told you, I think
it was their ditch birthday. I said.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
The one thing that I said this this is probably
this seems like it has a fallout, expect like the
show fallout where Disney Marvel they probably didn't think this
show was gonna do much.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Right.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
You gotta think the hashtag even still right now how
popular win hashtag still doesn't have an icon on it, right.
So it's like even the small things Disney Marvel did
not do and being that such a huge success. I mean,
you see how it was Centers was supposed to be
with Centers is a one one off, but after that,
so many people started calling for more with Ryan Coogle
had to actually come out and say, hey, I had

(34:35):
no plan on doing another Center, Bro, I'm actually doing.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
X files Like what y'all talking about? Like you know
what I'm saying, I'm done, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
So it's like I can see a situation where they
get back to the tape and somebody but all right, hey,
what what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
We are we doing Strege Academy or not.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
And it's having a pivot. That's why our part of me.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
That's partly what I meant last time we talked about
this ro I said, we gotta stop judging stuff. Is
if we expect greatness out of everything, because right now
they're like rebuilding everything from trash. We can be getting
trash for the last four years, So not every time
we get somewhat of a hit. We been getting trashed
for the last four years. Look back in the last

(35:12):
four years and tell me a top movie, a top
series that a major top series out of m c U.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Yeah, in the last four years.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
Last twenty twenty one started, I said.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
I thought multiverseal Madness was one.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
People don't want, trash. A lot of things that people
don't like. I'm on board with, Like I did.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
He came out in the last four years that that
was fire said.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
He said, he said, what did we get? Kind of
what we got? What kind of what kind of whatever?
It was great to me. That's like I said, it
was alright, no way at home no, no, we said.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
I'm saying I was great.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
We ain't got nothing, no way, no way at home
is like I.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Mean, I was trash put a strong word. Bro Okay,
not trash, but not great.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
So what so what was mean?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
So we've beginning four years and what movie are you holding?
That's the equivalent that will be?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I guess he going he going pre uh in game, yeah,
pre in game, pre Infinity War. But I was into
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
What I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
That's what people it's I don't hear what he is
saying because there's a lot of people Guardians.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
Guardians three three could have been better. I think Guardians way.
There's a lot of people that.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
That we came so I can is not.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's crazy to me because I've been fighting this against people,
a lot of people for the longest anyway, But there's
a lot of people who've been saying that Marvel has
been trans the.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Multiverse saga is not as good as the Infinity if
you if you say it's anywhere near as good as
the hold On.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
Bro Loki series was called Loki Series was all right,
but it was afflicted because the way they ended the.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Way they ended that that was that was what we
gotta given with the writers, right, bro, we gotta gives,
like we gotta take.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
The majors.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
And I get it, I get it. They had to
pivot and that, but.

Speaker 9 (37:17):
It was too it was too rushed and it was
clustered into a result that that it couldn't it shouldn't
have end it that way like they did something because
it was like, oh, we can do it this way
and keep the story going.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
So here's the everything early MC is definitely not great.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
You want to make sure we stay on track with heart,
out with the with the with with Loki.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
I think it was really just how they even I
understand that they had to pivot against King, but King,
but I'm like, look y'all changed roady on us.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Y'all changed a couple of characters on us.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
I was I was like, just give it to somebody
else and continue with King because Kane was such a
great and I get it, John that major is that,
but you already introduced variants into saying that Varians don't
have to.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Look like the same person.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Behind that is that it was written his contract. I
mean to get it, but that so that's why I
was just like I did. They definitely said in the corner,
you know, so there was they was sucking up that ship.
Yeah it was. It was a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
But anyway, so yeah, but back to what McCarty was saying,
like doctor Strange imprint was all on it, because even
like even the introduction of dor Mamu and I do
like how they like how like you know, uh, I
feel like this is.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Again where I say like different people's run.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I feel like how they changed the story of the
cloak because in the comic books that was definitely dor
Mamo's cloak and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And so even with with uh no, Velma was saying Velma, Zelma,
even she gave me, she gave me, even with Zelma's name.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Dropping dor Mamo in there and everything like that. And
then when re Read talked like, oh sorry, you know Mama.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
With was like.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Like what.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Did you did you expect that he was gonna say,
like did that throw you that fisto or did you
think I.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Was no, no, no, I knew he was my fist.
It was it was the it was the like and
I think we talked about it.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
It was treating dor Mama like a stepping wolf, right,
because bare minimum, I thought, like okay, but Fistal would
have been like, oh yeah, I gave dor Mama this cloak.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
He just this nigga lost it.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
You know what I'm saying. That's why I thought we
talked about it, talked about it last week. That's why
none of it it didn't like, it didn't shock me,
like okay, well right, yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
He switched it up where it was like, no, it
was really my Fistal pulled him straight.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
And then it gave me, Like I said, it made
my my fan theory mind start thinking about, oh okay,
in this run, I feel like I know what they're
doing with my fisto and the devil character. And I said,
what we can talk about as we are theorized and everything.
But again, so we get like I said, we have
that moment now where she she links up with uh
with Zelma was like all right, look I need to

(40:00):
I need to get this suit infused and I need
your help and we're gonna put it together. But before then,
like I said, what's old girl named Fire? I keep
always got her name, the fire villain, the one that
blows up ship.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Clown clown clown already sees that was planted in her
head about Hood, so she asked, she flat out asking, hey,
did you kill you killed Bro?

Speaker 13 (40:22):
And he was like, what.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Yeah, slugg the Autista.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Autopsy by the way, he got his feeling all tipsy done.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
But yeah, so you know what I'm saying. And that's when,
like I said, the Hood goes roll like at that point,
the team is broken up there like that like that.
That's because you can already the marks was here. Now
that's that's when it was over.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Oh yeah, you look weird. I don't even were mad
that nobody was saying it, more like, Bro, what's you good?
Like you said, like when he came out to the
all that had been like bro.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Himself, I wondered, did they believe that was part of
the Yes he was.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
So I wanted to believe, but I would have been like, what.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Is what the tattoo thing?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Say that to?

Speaker 8 (41:19):
Though, She was like he got his like you ever
seen him with the shirt off his body for the scales.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
She said that.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
You've been peeping that ship for a minute.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
She's been peeping it.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
But the hierarchy of like, I'm peeping it, but I'm
not gonna really say any you know, what I'm saying,
because it was like, you know, they are they all
they all really love the hierarchy of it and everything
like that.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Yeah, yeah, she definitely did.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And I do want to second, I think we passed
it now, but I do the fight with them, I
actually enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, the which one, the first fight was cool. One
against the blood siblings. Here gets calm, you're like clowns
right once again. I mean, if I was, I just
wanted to just threw all the motherfuckers in there. But
she wasn't trying to kill the siblings.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It was in the bubble.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
She didn't.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Don't think she knew that because remember remember when she
was first running around, they was trying to get her attention,
and I don't know, I don't know if she was
just like ignoring them to continue to fight with rear.
But in my eyes, because when they were in the bubbles,
like you can hear it sounded like muffled, I assume
she just didn't know what happened to them.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
So in my eyes, I feel like in this ragtag group,
you get a pay bump if you were the ones
that get that final buff.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So I feel like Cloud was just like I'm just
focused on blocking bombs with sheep pans crazy. It was trapped.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I feel like they were trapped, no bombs, so that's
what it was.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
They had They had enough. You saw enough firepower come
up during those in the face.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Still each time she just done and it's good.

Speaker 8 (42:57):
I'm just like, stayless still sheet pants man, you know
that that fine cook wear, this restaurant quality, just like
picking save pan.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
That was white Castle, they buy fans.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
The obvious product placement of White Castle.

Speaker 9 (43:21):
Like product that was the ship that was the Chicago
Chicago have you they could have been in Chicago red hot.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
That was national. You're telling me White Castle ain't got
a product placement in the show?

Speaker 5 (43:37):
They did?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
They got to They was the title of the episode.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
That was.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Like a national if you're talking the National Chicago unless
you're doing like a deep dish change.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, like a piece of.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
That was ridiculous too. Bar When iron Man was in
the Holy Door, that was like, I mean, obviously you
know what I'm saying, but that was whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
But I do feel like if it was the trapped
Botles throwing herd like she also didn't get and she
thought it was trapped, she got caught and it was
like that songs maybe trying with maybe she just Patty
the joker niggas.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Jobbling out here, Like appreciate about these fights? Is that
it showed that is really just the person in the iron.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, I mean, I mean that's what.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Some people be.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Some people be trying to make it seem like like
Tony can go hand ahead with Bruce.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
He can't.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I'm glad you you can't.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I've never seen I've never seen Tony in the hand.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
I heard people make that. I heard people make that crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
That's like.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
He's a top not martial artist.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like if you look, if you ever read the status
to start, there's no fighting smart.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I I do like this.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
That one is like, look, this is literally a kid
in an orange suit.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You know what I'm saying. And so like with her
fights and that there was a level like there was
legit moments and I'm like, is she gonna.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
Make it out of this ship?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
And I know when the twins on her ass, I
was like somebody about to be you about to get
your ship when she kicked her like nig you should
be on the ground air Like that kick was crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That was a little I except like I accepted.

Speaker 14 (45:23):
That, like, you got to give her some plot armor.
You got to give her some plot arm. But I
don't know why, maybe I didn't see enough of it.
But to fight, Like I said that the girls like
them fighting her, I was like, I love them like
as a yes, I was like, bro, they even going crazy.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Joe, I like them as as fighting.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
But I was like again, so when I watched these shows,
I get very very uh side choosing.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
If I'm once, I became everybody fighting against her.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I mean I get I get there, so you know
what I'm saying. So that's that's what I'm even even
respected them like and I forgot but they had tracked
suits when they got the suit and got it and
was like, you know, we go get her now. And
it was like that that even I felt like that
was Natalie getting caught bother me because the same thing
like bro, y'all, suit don't do nothing, It don't make you.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
This why I liked it, And this is why because
this AI is supposed to be the most advanced AI
that we've seen out of all the ais, right, because
this is the one that of a conscience, emotional and
everything like that. So the distraction of her because remember
what she was trying to do was she was upset
boy reacted, so she was trying to make.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Her thought.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Was I.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Don't think he was. He was very much justified. You
got to think about that is his little sister.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I mean it was justified.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
But I'm like, I'm like, they are broken, Like I
get what you're saying, but he was still tripping in
the fact, Like Bro, like you blaming ree wee for
something she really had no control over, but.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
He wasn't.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Allow her to explain.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
But hold on, but think about it. That's that's a
very justified thing. Your little sister died in that tragedy.
The next thing you see is her best friend, who
you know is a genius, who you know has been
trying to create an a I.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
All of a sudden, you turned her. You turned your
AI into my sister I.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Crash out.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
With the crash out is he had always presented himself
as all this process and he's already dealt with that trauma, right,
he's understanding of everything.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
He's Jews and Nally in his own way. Right with
the headphones, they.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Were also broken right before.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
Yeah, At the same time though, it's like, Bro, you're
you're presenting yourself as you're already processed this emotional trauma.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Right.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
She's going through that, and you're not allowing her to
explain how this even happened.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
But grief Greeks not living here niggas.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Him to hell because you.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Don't expect that, like you, I understand that it was
a recording, but you made an a I talk to me,
I can see you.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
But she didn't make an AI.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
Remember the computer generated from her own. She didn't have
a choice was just do it all over again. It
would have gave her the same.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
But we understand that. We understand reason why he did.
I understand why he did in that moment.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
In that moment, at this point, I ain't seen the
physical embodiment of my little sister since then I get
kidnapped by this robot.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Then I know red because he was like, how did
you do that?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
How did you?

Speaker 5 (48:31):
How did you make that robot come get me like that?
The autopology.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
You're like, what, I didn't do it?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
And then all of a sudden, my sister's here talk
to me like, hey, I did it?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Like what.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
That's that's justified, that's taking that's taking the head who
tries to practice piece she had you doing. That is true,
but also.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Very terrible.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
I'd explain boat is right, she she she is very
terrible explaining she Yeah, she's a young she she is
a young woman.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
But also I understood it.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
I also equate this to her being so focused driven
that she's never got a chance to or let's just
be real with it, her life has been so accelerated
that her communication skills are foible.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Oh yeah, so that's why I get it.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Now.

Speaker 9 (49:27):
Listen, he is justifying and being upset. But the manner
in which you snapping on this girl, you should have
took a breath.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
That was just the moment so that nigga, you walked
off and left fot the junk yard.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
After was like, des, you took me out of my
bedroom as I'm about to go home, ibnut to get me?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Ober, fuck you gonna go?

Speaker 12 (49:59):
He know?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Well, no, he got his phone, like you know.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
You know how I'm made?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I think you try you going to man?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You have stuffed me here and I.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Didn't want to go.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's not the reason that I thought, because he thought
he was like Williams and my.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Like.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
But here's the thing I would agree war with trip.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
If he would have kept that energy though, if he
would have stayed mad out of let her explain, bro.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
But the fact, so you know what I'm saying, I
do appreciate.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Like I said, it was just a terrible woman. I
would remember.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
Yeah, that was the moment to the window, or the
suit rather came to the window right after the headphone
started sucking up. He already feeling down the headphonees sucking up.
He can't get he can't get back in his mood. Here,
come here, come this damn suit, Come on here, come on,
snatched me. Now you're telling me my sister and AI
he might be a nigga who will get supers on that.

(50:56):
That's right, the helliga.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Boss status. Like like I said, when I practice beace,
I look at you like, okay, this must be the
boss on this level of control. You're like, I gotta
be cool man.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
That was definitely on.

Speaker 7 (51:11):
Now she overstepped like I.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Did it too.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
That's what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I now knew really needed in this moment.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
There's nothing else I can do but go get him right.
But but he should not have appeared.

Speaker 8 (51:27):
She should have let her like you know, we re
ease that ship in there, but she was like, no,
I want to see this nigga too.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Boom, Hey, I'm here.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
My pois you should have just used the voice.

Speaker 9 (51:37):
Yeah, she should have only just spoke and been like hey,
And when he let him, let him slowly got to
that and then that way ask that question, how did
you get her voice?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Well, when I did my thing, the co chose this voice.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
He might even accepted it.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
So here's why I give them.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
This is why I gave it a solid four, because
even though I was upset about that scenari the one
thing about Natalie as an AI that I that I'm
seeing is that we're seeing a adolescent AI, right and
so and so in my head, Natalie's reaction was somebody
who like, you know, we've seen these in movies, the
robot who claims they know about real emotions, but they

(52:17):
really don't. And so with Natalie, like he said, she
knew that he he she needed him there, but she
didn't really understand the implications.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
Because this is an adolescent AI.

Speaker 9 (52:28):
Think about it, talk about it. The AI is from
the from the person, right. Jarvis was already a grown
adult man in the science field. That's why he was
so built in with Tony and able to help control Tony.
Where uh old Trin was came straight from animosity and.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Scott froing the Internet for five minutes to saying like, oh,
y'all niggas need to y'all need to go.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
So I think that's what it really is.

Speaker 8 (52:54):
Say the same thing with vision, right, because this vision
became a thing. He was still naives to everything. He
was just trying to mm late everything he thought was
positive exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And that's the thing, like this one already came from
a teenage girl. So that AI was, so.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
I give that, I give Natalie, And to me, I
thought that that was really handled well.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
It was like because even when she grabbed I was like,
why did she grab ro right, you know what I'm
saying in my hand, I was thinking that. And then
so when it played out, I was like, you know,
that's somebody who didn't fully understand the scope of what
is about to happen.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Yeah, even she said, she said, I didn't expect them like.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
That, and it was like, yeah, because you don't really
understand emotions like you're still a robot, you're still but
you're an advanced robot with with emotions, but you probably
don't even know how to deal with this because like
why like I'm a robot, why do I have emotion?

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Whatever you from, it's from a teenage girl, so you
only gonna generate all.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
You know, these are the things I know about him.
I know you, I know you like it, but you're
not trying to say that, like you know what I'm saying,
Like he really just trying to be like I'm your.

Speaker 8 (53:51):
Friend, like I thought you did, like and she saw
that solution as you know binary right you know ones,
and know, yeah, you're you're struggling.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
I was gonna help you get through this.

Speaker 8 (54:01):
Okay, this is what I'm gonna do, not knowing how
that's going to affect the next person, right because she
doesn't get.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
This process from Wakanda, because remember she was trying to
recreate the Wakanda ai.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
So you know what I'm saying. So I said, as
I understood, like I said to me, and I don't
know that moment. To me, I was just like, oh,
this is pretty dope. So that's like that kind of
helped amplify it for me, you know what I'm saying.
And so then we get to I guess the movie
montage moment you know where that say.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
When I was watching, I was like, this is the
best one. Like all these family like then, know what
I'm saying, Like the montage moment of family. Everybody like
what I'm saying, Like every feel like every Woman's like
every kids show has that. I'm like, this is the
best one because it was just so much it going.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I like the way that they said it up because,
like I said, the mom Like I said, this shows
how the mom is resourced for like I said, like
where mom may not be the hands on, but mom
knows the emotional connection. The cartoon that was so willing
to give it back so quickly.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I thought she said she just had it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
No, she said, I went. Well, she said, I went
and bought.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
She brought it back. She said, brought it back? You thought,
you said, Yeah, I thought he brought she said, So
I thought I wanted to cats she said, but oh
did Yeah. I don't know who she was. I thought,
like you think like a knocking.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm like, who think it was?

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Like here you go? Fan?

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Why?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Maybe she sld it black market?

Speaker 4 (55:19):
You had to I mean that black market like all
the like no face noahip situation and accidentally sold it
back to her moms.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
That's why I got that lucky.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
On the block who was just like I got because
I mean, my thing is like you currently got some bread,
like you know what I'm saying, Like you're good.

Speaker 7 (55:39):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
It was a brought back.

Speaker 9 (55:40):
I thought it was stor broke Mama. But I'm also
with Bold too, though they definitely made time. Seemed like
that ship was not a factor with the whole before we.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
Get to it, because I want to talk about that too.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
So, like I said, mom bought it back one day,
went back to the shop, right, and I thought that
it was really I like what Natalie because again we
talked about this this show being dealing with grief, and
I like the message that Natalie told her, like you know, sometimes,
you know what I'm saying, you try to block it out.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
You forget that you know, we deal with you know,
deal with so much grief and trying to block it out.
You try.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
You also block out the good moments, right, trying to
figure out you know, about the iron Head and everything
like that, and so the way that she displayed it,
and you know that.

Speaker 11 (56:21):
When the dad started dancing with her was a little
bit I'm a nigga with a daughter, my baby, you
look hot to watch it all the way here, I
definitely want to call baby.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Maybe what.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Tender moment and everything like that. So then, like I said,
we get back to like.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
All right, that really I didn't even think about the
synth of time.

Speaker 9 (56:53):
That was on her right after the whole fight scenario.
So you gotta think, like nigga, they they literally wouldn't did.
But he did do some stuff, but not that's what
that should have been, like at least two weeks span.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yeah, because what he did was a day.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
What he did.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Covered the car, and she said that my dad this cargo,
this cargo, y right. I was like all right.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
I knew I was gonna build a suit, but I
was like, man, the hood ship happening right now.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
And then they did the whole mon.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Time and I was like, all right, oh, little boy
bag with he like I want my wagon.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Old boy came like we hit.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
They ate twice.

Speaker 9 (57:33):
I thought they drinks even remember they brought coffee and
then he brought coffee, walked off.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
The little boy brought sandwiches.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I think that's what.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
You can assume. Maybe he did that coffee. Like y'all said,
that time moved quick as a bit because I was like,
all right, I was like, because maybe you have some
magic involved. Maybe it was a damn she was setting up.
They had to set imagine, had to set up the
like create, recreate the technological stuff that goes into iron suit.
Then they had the weld and put together the iron

(58:07):
Souit had break down the car to weld the car.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Yeah, they only showed one testing of the of the
clan of the hand. I'm like, you ain't gonna see
no flight.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Like that.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
Had to fill that bucket up with whatever time.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
But that was that was.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
It was a lot that they did.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
All that Nigga did when he make a Nigga signs
and paper, we already saw how they do the heightsts.
That's a one day thing you're saying. He went guy
his paper sides.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
We saw Zeke he was taking off the people.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I didn't like to see that much either him. I'm sorry,
is he fighting that? That's what happened during this time
time because.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
They we get no I guess you know what it
might have been.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
What we don't know what the team right after the
fight and then that's what Zeke thought he was gonna leave.
And then he was like, when you like, but.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So we don't know the time span of because remember
he like when he was talking to the team, he
was like, no, I was getting ready. He didn't say
the day the heights. Now we getting ready to heights
is the most wortant thing everybody and they left him
was because he pretty much at that point now I
think it's not trying to find We're not neverally trying
to find him, because he knew what that nigga was like,

(59:21):
I gotta come get you.

Speaker 7 (59:22):
He thought he.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Already thought she was dead.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
So then the next episode we said we finally get
there's still.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
In this episode because I wanted to talk about how
at the end of this episode she.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Had to delete the AI she wants when we find we.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Finally put the suit together and everything like that, after
the long montage and everything, and then and the leached
she refuses.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Well, I knew did y'all have to actually had the
idea already when she told her, like, you know you're
ready for this magic, it's always gonna be in exchange,
Like I immediately was like, you're about to lose a
I you know I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Or you know what I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I didn't think she was gonna lose that. I thought
that I was gonna get corrupted and turn evil.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I didn't think it was gonna turn evil. I like
you said, I thought it was because it's like I
didn't even I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Had a feeling that it might she might have brought
her back, but I also was like, that's gonna pretty
much be another season or what you said, were working
on trying to get her back. But I was like,
oh no, you're about to lose this motherfucker with some magic.
You said, like I knew that that was like all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
The tech is. She basically was giving up tech for magic.
So okay, well giving up your text.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Is your AI Yeah you said it wasn't no more
like I'm fighting teching magic against magic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah magic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
I didn't feel bad because I was like, damn, you
gotta wash her die again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Was but.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
It was too quick to the like that was something
that and this ain't nothing on them on their fault.
This is Disney fault forgiving the three in a row.
I didn't have enough time to sit in it because
it was I was damn.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
She lost it again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I mean it was also another one of those things
where it's like y'all not prepare her for this, like
as she was trying to rush in like back HERU,
I'm like, yo, I didn't already have a backup of.

Speaker 10 (01:01:05):
Heart, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
To me, first, she don't know nothing about magic and
even when even hearing it's gonna cost you something, who
who knows what?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Being like why would you even when I'm trying to
test into the letters, Like why would you have her
own this? If you could have been had her turned
to the laptop while you're working on your suit, Like,
why would you even have her she's not even helping
with I don't definitely, I mean even when you don
like tign the power up, let me put you on
the laptop.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
But but why but why would you believe something's gonna
go wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
If I'm saying nobody, if nobody understand that Ariselma is
also an adolescent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Which so she don't know you don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
But that's what I'm saying. It ain't about no walk
in the back of that. She should be smart enough
to have a backup of hers for you to say
that like you've been with your a for a long
time now it's been crashing and already having moments. You
should have a backup of your.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Okay, wait you you saying that about her? You didn't
say that about Peter Parker.

Speaker 9 (01:02:04):
Yeah, but he needed a back up for what that
nigga when he went up to say his spell and
he decided, oh no this, oh no that, oh no this,
and then he fucked up the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Oh, I mean that was the terriblest thing. And it's
all right, And it was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Just didn't remember he had because he had different Remember
when he lost vision? What was the what was the
name of the AI that he ended up having a well, Friday,
Friday was the one he got Peter. But so, like say,
it wasn't necessarily but yeah, to think also, how you

(01:02:37):
go back up Natalie. You don't even know how you
created Natalie. That's also fair. Remember since you can move it,
she was about to do that, like so you know
you could do it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
No, Remember she thought she moved.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
She was ready, she was ready as soon as that
was done. She was ready to go fight. So she
might not she thinking like that. That's that's precious time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I got that long assn time you got time, you're
going to do that in my time, I understood that,
and it was definitely sad.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
I was like, damn, because the next episode is right there,
you already picking back up and you ain't got time
to shit Like that was something to sit for a whek.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
So the next episode we finally get into the Hoods backstory.
Ye turned them into like why he and everything like that,
and they expect him to be a rich kid.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
You know me either, I want you. That was a
crazy twist. Most well connected criminals are.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
It makes sense not what you're thinking about, Like, because
when I was I was talking about this on one
of them podcasts, Much to Do About Nothing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Trayvonnand was like, this feel very targeted people he picking
And then that's why.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I really I was like, wait, what did they do?
I was like, either these are all the rich people
that deal that did something bad to a disenfranchised family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
That's what I thought it was. It was using that
we see I thought he was poor.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yeah, I thought he he was praying on all his
whole team was poor. They wasn't poor for real, but
he was using that like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
They kicked us to the ground. They like, but I
don't think any of them was. They all wasn't from Chicago,
that's around.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
Yeah, so I'm like, these are people who his family,
like maybe his dad got by something from there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I definitely like my cousin I thought he was doing
is like said, he I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
I was really to get people to building to his team,
but everybody that was hitting it was definitely felt like
a personal vendetta what these group of people did to him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Yeah, that's what I like, I said, I thought like
something with him, like yeah, I was like that that
made me mad because it was just really like you
like you just your dad businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Feet.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
I mean, but when you figure out what pops dead
to him, I was like, well yeah, like I could
see what he.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Was kids adoption, if he was a rich kid, and
you just don't get this to go back to your daddy,
like the guy got powers man, Well, my daddy before
I looked ugly as a bitch because you about to
get about to see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
If I can shoot bullets?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Crazy, you know what I'm saying, that's technically what he is, Like,
why did you go through all those runs? Because see
your daddy like and do what you just did.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
I think we we've seen the evolution of the hood,
you know, possessing him right, because originally he wanted to
just strong arm himself into being you know, that silent
partner he wants to pop.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
Said that he was like, Yo, if this is a
hostile takeover, you could have just did this from the crib,
you know what I mean. That was an original game plan.

Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
He's like, you know, I'm gonna take over all his
portfolio companies and then show up.

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
I got majority of steak, get out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
But he already had it. It was it was the
greed of wanting more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
He wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
He wanted.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
He wanted his father to know, like, I'm doing this ship,
taking this away from United.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
That was the whole point of him asking him, like,
what did you come here for?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I wanted to see your face because if I call.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
You or do it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
He wanted to. I think he physically wanted to tell
his day.

Speaker 9 (01:06:14):
That was to him, the same thing you told me
when I was twelve years old. Get out of my house.
Now I'm in a position I don't got to shoot you,
I don't got to hurt you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
Get out of my house, Get the funk out.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
I wanted to ask seaw the Mephisto reveal.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
How did y'all like? How did y'all like the reveal
first time? The one at the beginning of that episode, one.

Speaker 9 (01:06:37):
Of the beginning episode and talking to when he was
running away, and I thought it was right on time,
I thought, because he was so I thought at that
moment his whole plan the whole time was to get
re Re under his control. Because the way he showed
up the Bravado like all that, it was like, Bro,

(01:06:57):
you ain't been nothing but a tool this whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I believe it.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
This whole thing was like that was him complaining to
him about wanting more. He was looking at him like, nigga, like,
this is what you asked for. You got what you
asked for. Just keep being the villain that I need
you to be, because you because on one step away
from my initial plan.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
You know, yeah, I can see that. Like I said,
I feel like I feel like when especially when you
think about whom my fistol is as a person, the
hood was not important, you know, I'm saying it was
immediately he was definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
There to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Know that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
He already talked about how you know when he grandtous
when he was talking to. He was like, you could
tell right to do this for fun.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
So he did it from what he said all one
hundred and in the top forty one hundred thirteen what
he said thirteen keys, Like obviously you know that you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Know a fisto the character like he just does it
for front all the time, but you could it's just
everything all just so did you did you like to reveal?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:07:51):
I did.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
I immediately got looser for vised because I think he
popped up and he like, you know, what do you desire?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
On his voice kind of chain. If you wouldn't have
known that it was me fisto from the leaks, you
could even okay, it's the Devil.

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Man Devil, which which is pretty much fisto and like,
you know, it's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
So what made me like it is that when they
first announced way back when that Sasha Baron Coleman was
my fisto, well they just said.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
He had a roll the leaks immediately say but I
so for me, my reference point to him is always
Borrat And I was like, I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I didn't even though it was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
I didn't see it for me personally, even though my
fisto was not hear the thing in my in my head,
and I was just going off with some of the comics,
like myfisto is not overly opposing, but he seems more threatening,
like you know what I'm saying, Like like he seemed
like a bodyment of the devil.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
So when I see Sasha baron Co and I was like,
I just kept on seeing the goofy this some of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Them he's it, but he's got a few other roles.
But I was, I'm just using my ripe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
So when I saw the patrol and then like like
and then I did said getting that Lucifer vibe, I said,
oh ship, so I should like, oh yeah, he definitely
pulled this off because you gotta have that suaveness. You
gotta have that that I can manipulate you. You gotta
have that if I'm talking to you, yeah I'm talking,
I'm hyping you up. But hey, let's not remember I'm

(01:09:22):
I'm the one in charge here. I'm still like, he
gave me everything that I thought of a fist though,
and I said, yeah, seduced and all already.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
I feel like comedians they can turn the switch to
get dramatic roles just just from the nature always having
to be on but one like you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Were saying, I guess I didn't. I didn't need him.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
I wasn't ever expecting like Mafista to be like you said,
physically imposing. It was the I always you needed the
very charismatic person. I can sweet talk you and then
when you do something step on the line, you just
need to be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Know you don't want to go that far.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Yeah, you need to know what I'm doing. Like that's
like I felt like even in the introduction with with
with Parker and he was like you paid it to
the boy, listen to me like he like he like.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
You know what I acquainted it to the Frenchman or
Taga nights when he was walked into the.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Bar, he was so imposing, like he made he made
them like him.

Speaker 9 (01:10:17):
Yeah, towards the end, I felt like that was gonna
be the energy that ma Festo was gonna break.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
And that was that part where he was talking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
To him like, hey, you know what, like do you
not realize what we're doing when we do.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Somebody else in the world, Like you know what I'm saying.
Even when he was talking to him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
He was like, can I can I just look at
you man that face, like, tell me that wasn't the
same vibe like it was.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Yeah, So I did like that revealed.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
I did like also because you gotta think with Fisto
it's all about like mystery and everything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
So I do like that at that moment, he didn't
reveal his name even yeah, like I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I mean, he didn't ask like I feel like I
feel like Parker, Like I feel like Parker was really
just like.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
He wanted what he wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, like he didn't even action better of course, of
course in the room where he Why why your voice different?

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
I got I got more people than you. Bro, It's
not about you, you know what I'm saying. So I
did like the reveal. You know what I'm saying. I
did like kind of like how you set up with
the hood. He was like, Bro, you are king man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
You're legendary. I mean not right now you like you
like ship, but in general, like you said, you about
to be legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Even with the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
You gotta think we've seen we watched Supernatural all the time.
The deal is usually like all right, I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Listening immediately get that he's like no, no, no, I
ain't giving you ship.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
I mean, I'm gonna give you the tools so you
can be who you supposed to be, which is you
gotta think that's an easier way to manipulate somebody and
take over them because now they feel they get a
sense of I'm doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Power. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Well that's another thing where what I was saying it
felt like Lucifer is that's sort of how That's what
he would do, is do I can I can.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Make the stuff happen. All right, here's how you can make.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
It happens that. That's what I said, I with you,
like the second part when they talked again, and he like,
I gave you all the ship, but you sucked it
all up. And what they're talking about, like you wanted
more even even having that like that, that conversation he
just like just like he told him the beginning, like
it's never gonna be enough, like I want some more,

(01:12:17):
Like hold on this a little bit longer, he said,
in all minds, it's gonna just get me more power.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Not telling you know what's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
I just watched I just watched train Wreck the American
Pero one and they was talking about Yeah, bro the
fifty loss loss, and one of the ones was was
saying that it was like you give them enough so
that they're thinking, is their their own idea?

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
Like it was like it was like this was like
clearly somebody that was like you know, definitely builds a
code following. That's his thing. He follows those rules.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
So it was like, it's crazy how like parallel that
was and how he set that up and everything.

Speaker 13 (01:12:55):
Yeah, since has something to do with all of that
to even how like the dialog exchange he went through
all that conversation with his dad, they're gonna prior episode and.

Speaker 9 (01:13:05):
He just kept real with him, like, Bro, you could
have shot me and you could do whatever you wanted to,
it still ain't gonna be enough. And the fact that
Manfesto as soon as he saw him, like he sat
there and begged him to come out, and he up
until they walked away from each other.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
You're gonna make the hood more powerful?

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
How much more powerful?

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
He also said it, he said, man, throughout my all
my life, he said, all the fortunate of five hundred,
how that deals with well, you know what I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
Saying, so he knows what you know, that's what I think.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
I think he I think he had that deal already
with his dad, of course, so it's all that's why
I think it's like, I think it's all been chess
moves to get reread on his side, like I'm gonna
activate this saga for for the hood and his dad.

Speaker 12 (01:13:54):
Well, he said that she can be.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
The intertwined in it. And at the end of it,
when I did all, I'll have her.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Because he even said it. He said, I've been watching you.
He said, I've been watching you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
They got the name of fisto. It's all about building
what they call the ages of a fisto. You know
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. He's always
looking for ages like the four Horsemen, like you're looking
for specific chess pieces to fit your mode. And they
probably got to hit a certain point before, like I said, mefisto,
who knows it. I gotta get this person to a
certain point right so that I can actually influence them intact.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
And that's a perfect thing about She's a perfect target.
You have the intellect of a Tony Stark. You have
the will and the ability to build and create now
I'm gonna give.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
You unlimited funds, unlimited influence, but.

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
It's all mine, you know what I'm saying, And I
don't have to worry about it, like you couldn't have
did that, but no other.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Avendm So we do it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
So we do get to the final fight.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Like I said, we already talked about the second fight
with Zeke, you know what I'm saying, So you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
She had to shut them down when we get to
that final fight with the Hood. I like how they
did that fight.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
I thought that the little slights of horror elements in
there with him with his transformation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Like that, I fel like, I mean, I love to fight,
but I feel like that's also what made me feel
like the ending was like I enjoyed the ending, like
because it definitely caught me off guard, but it was
also stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Because it was like, you know what, the fucking dude,
we'll get to that here, we'll get to that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
So because so here's day.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
I think the switcherl got me because when when the
suit got it, I said, again, yeah, said you need.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Somebody I would give me like on this magic' doing
ship like I.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
Was those are some crazy those are some crazy ass illusions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
It was cold because remember we had just saw the
whole childhood. We just saw your whole childhood do.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
The same tex, So it was taking magic too.

Speaker 9 (01:15:47):
And I was pissed because when I fucking suit fell
apart and I was hoping it would be like a
Tony start, you know, it comes back, I was like,
wait a minute, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I was yah, I said, I want should like that.
I like the fight, but I was really like the
first like that first introducem when she did the spirit,
They're like, okay, we better get some we.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Want to get.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
You walk through this goddamn house dog Like what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
I was like I understood that because I was like,
you're dealing with To me, I feel like it was
like a water down version of magic, like, yes, your
magic is infused with with your but he's pure magic.
It gave Yeah, he's pure magic. So I was like,
pure magic will still have a slight upper hand. However,
your technology and intellect can get you the one up over.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
I never tested the suit. She's you don't have an AI.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
There's nobody family, right, because I'm like, she didn't need
the magic.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I think she did because I don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
That you wouldn't have got that. You wouldn't have got
that illusion of that. I blew up the suit, he
thinking he won because now she ain't got nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
All of that. The reason why it looks so life.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
Like was cousin of the magic you want, you wouldn't
have change.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, I thought I thought it really blow like the smoothest.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
I was like, what.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Up?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Like, goddamn literally did bro?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
I literally was like yeah, I mean I definite thought
I was. I just thought that she was gonna come back,
Like I thought she was gonna be sitting there like
so even when it got to the part of the
gun shot. That's what I really was, like, she had
a dad.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
I thought when like when she when she had the explosion,
I thought it was gonna explode. But like the magic
is keeping the suit. Yeah, but I think, yeah, like
she really needed to sell that illusion. You're not selling
that with tech, You're not You're not getting it to
that level of realism.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
With you need that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
You need that magic, bro, Yeah, you needed that magic.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I mean I mean I guess I guess she was
magic to do a tech trick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I mean she was basically on the stereo. That's that's
what That's what she was. Remember how remember his illusions.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
It was bold. But I feel like it's the atmosphere boat, yeah,
saying it's the way that it changed the full atmosphere.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
It gave me mysterio.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Now I can see that I reiterated the boat because
but could it definitely fooled me, like I said, like
it was going around like you like I thought the
suit even if you like I thought that she was
like like how it happened. I didn't think it was
a hologram. I thought probably something was just on her.
So even though it was gonna do the shot, but
I thought the suit was gonna just come back, you know,
nothing in the suit and the super gonna help like all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Remember it got remembered, it exploded and got super smoked.

Speaker 6 (01:18:28):
You didn't even see her really at first, I thought
the smoke dissipated that she would have still been in
the suit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
He had had the red magic around her like.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Okay, I can see that, like you know, yeah, so
you know what I'm saying, so you know, and then
she she snatched.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Was like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
It just huge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
She sat that seed. Remember when that it was like
you trusted her. She said he ain't nothing but a
dude in a suit, he told her.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I mean I know that that said. It was such
a like that nigger was all your ass. And I
get you had the trickle, but boy, you're the hood up.
That nigga was a baby on the flame man scene
cut the scene.

Speaker 9 (01:19:13):
I think that was Professo's way of introducing him, so
he knew you. Okay, you then beat him up, let
me turn the hood off, make him regular, take it
from him.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
And now now I got you. Because she had to
get in contact with the hood in order for him
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
In contact with her. That's that's my thought.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
I mean, that can make sense in the sense of
him being out there like we just like soon as
she walked out, he was out there that he kind
of knew, like, boy, you're doing too much anyway. I
don't want you anyway. So while y'all having this fight,
I'm about to just go and cut all that ship off.
And but I mean that would take away her victory.
Like I feel like she did win, but it was
like it wasn't a win. It's like, I just gotta
get this fucking hood off.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I do think that's the win. Though it was like like,
like Natalie said, he is nothing but a nigga in
the hood.

Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
So when you said that, I thought, I thought Natal
said that to her, not even saying he's into some
real's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
But so then even still, I think it's in his
contract with you lost You lost your power.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
He said, and he said, he said, just hold on
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yeah, I need you. I need you to keep your
symbol of your power. You lost it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:16):
The hood is already powering her suit. So regardless it's
a piece of the hood in the suit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
I mean, yeah, I get that, she keeps the rest
of it like he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
My only the four four, the full influence.

Speaker 9 (01:20:29):
My only thing is I don't want her because it
already happened where at the end they had the little
I don't want that for reason, you know, going to
be just like now. And here's why I believe it is.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
We'll get to it because I want to talk about
like I said, this said, this second interaction with the fisto.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Was the best. I'm talking about the second one, the
one in the So I like this one the best.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Actually, then I didn't like this one all because it
was definitely like as he started talking, like, bro, it's
you to do the stupidest thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
What like, well, so his day, here's the day, and
this is why I do like this shows it's not
a happy inding at all, and that's why. And I
was like, I'm okay with that because I like the conversation.
I like the little reflection of showing his true self.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
That was cool to me.

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
It gave and I saw somebody say this online. I
wish I knew who said it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
They said it's like the inception inding, because it was like,
was that a true ending or seeing another alternate universe?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
Now I on the links of the I'm on the
side of this is a true ending in regards to that.
But I do like how they were splicing in between.
I like when they was having a conversation. You've seen her,
you said again, I was had the same thing. I like, oh,
she about to do something stupid, like I knew it
was coming and everything like that. I like the speech
that he gave in regards to it. I also like,
here's where I agree with you. And I was like,

(01:21:51):
but I don't think that he knew the moment that
he was going to be able to get full influence
on her.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I feel like, okay, it was always regards to the suit.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
I mean the good you need that hood for full influence, right,
for Memphisto to get full influence, she had part of
the suit. And because when he was having the conversation,
I think that he needs to know what you desire
in order for you to get that full influence, right,
And so he's asking her. He's asking her, but he's
also I need to be I need to be able
to read your mind. When he realized, like I know

(01:22:19):
exactly what you want, you, you saw the light bulb
in his head like I think you And when he
that moment he said, listen here the light that I
could provide you, you should take this deal. I think
that that was the moment that he realized I got you.
I know exactly what you need. I know exactly what
you want. And that's where I think that. So I
think that even though he had his eye on Rearad
this whole time, I feel like they got there. There's

(01:22:41):
a moment where Nofisto knows he can get full control
over you. And I feel like that's the that's the
game he's playing. He's always putting pieces along to set
you up so he can get you can get to
that tip point where he'd like, got your ass.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I mean that's how I said. I feel like because
even when they did it, like the first the first
uh flash forward saying you want to call it, but
she's running on the wall, I still in my mind
like she said no, and she just still magic. So
then so of course when uh Natalie popped up, it's like, Okay,

(01:23:13):
she got that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
She even said that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
She said, I've been working on this. I can't wait
to tell you this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
So it's like I said, Dune, they come back to
do still talking, I'm still in my head like I'm like, y'all,
I see what y'all doing, but it's gonna end at
the no, and we're saying that she figured it out,
he said. So it was like when that when she
touched with Natalie Tester, he immediately was like, girl, you
got your motherfucking nerd leaning on it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
He kept That's what I said, That's why I appreciate
the conversation. She initially was saying no, but then he
kept on leaning on that emotion. She never got a
chance to process that grief. You know what I'm saying.
Right when she said, it's just me you want, not
everybody else, That's why I was like, he got her
think again, that's what he knew. He knew, he said,
I know exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
You know what I mean. That's saying it was just
such a weird because he could have easily brought back
the Ai and as I said, easily.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
Brought all Right, My thing is, well, all of this
and us having gone through Agatha and now they're introducing
Lady Death and her need to collect those souls, how
does that play in the effect with her and him
bringing Natalie back.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
So here's so this is where now I like, I said,
this is this is my fan theories.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
Here we are I feel I feel like because you
remember I say, the m c U is just a
different comic book run.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
It's loosely based off of comic books, but they're going
to play some things around.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
I now I believe that the mefistos that we were,
we were theorizing way back when with Agatha, I mean
with in Wanda vision. I feel like now it was
definitely it was an intentional accident, right, because I can
see a scenario where like I said, Mamu, the dark hole,
all that is really a derivative from the influence from Mephicio, right,

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dark magic, that redness and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
And I can see, like I said, again, my theory
is that Mefisto. It's not as clear cut of I'm
just making a deal like I got influence over you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Now there has to be an emotional point or something
that you can you can find on right, Like so
with Wanda, he realized that said it was the souls.
I feel like, you know what I'm saying, we already
know like Billy and there was always apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
A bodiment of Mephisto. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
The comic books, I can see a scenario where the
pieces were put together and Mefisto had.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Parts on why Billy and them came apart, what came alive?

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
You remember that was something new that was like they
want to create a kids.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
And even when we saw in Multiverse of Madness, and
like when they introduced talking about dreams saying that dreams
ain't really just dreams, You're really peaking into the other universe.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
And then even in Agata, seeing how Billy and Billy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
And Tommy and he was saying that, yeah, the souls,
once we got put together, our souls had to go somewhere.
So when this kid, so when into that kid right
with Natalie, remember the whole the whole scaryness up Natalie
and why Reeu was so thrown off?

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
It was like, all right, this is kind of I
was dreaming and we know that dreaming is peaking into
the multiverse.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
Where does Natalie come from?

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
And then even with Natalie's reaction, like with Boltay, he
knew when Natalie was acting strange, right, Natalie's reaction, Uh,
Natalie's Natalie's reaction, And even when she said she immediately said,
you know, where's where like her dad, She's like where
he at?

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I feel like it was kind of like a blip scenario.
She got pulled right, like right right back to the
same So she doesn't have Ai Natalie's memories. She doesn't
know any of that ship that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
She's thinking like all right, like I'm back in the shop,
like where's where's bro Like what happened? I believe that
Mefisto has been getting just behind the scenes, low key,
just playing chess, trying to figure out trying to build
his agenc of Mefisto because you know what I'm saying,
he's gonna play a part of wherever they throw him
in when he comes back. And that's why I believe
like it was a happy accident that may have not
been the plan at first, but then when asked this go,

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there was like, oh shit, like we can really make
this through line of the Mafisto always being a part
of this and in this run, Mephisto.

Speaker 9 (01:27:08):
Is a big guy because because my thing is just
like the brother wasn't accepting the AI is did he
change the brother's mindset that he changed? Like this is
a timeline change? Is this a reality change? Or did
you just bring her back and now you're gonna hold
it over her head? Hey, I can bring back your
stepdad too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:27:29):
Like it's a thing where in the greater world the
only person that died that day is given.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Yeah, Like so the brother never gonna have that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Feeling what they call it to Marvel not a canon event?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
What do they call it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
No, I don't think I think anybody if he doesn't
come back, I can see that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
But I mean, so I do that was Spider Verse.
They named something like that, and I thought, whatever, but
it wasn't and have to be tied to a death.
I don't think. I don't know it was, so they
already unerverse. That's what I'm saying. Like you you think

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you think I thought every Spider.

Speaker 9 (01:28:14):
Everybody, everybody, everyone, but everybody, every superhero has a cannon
event that creates their person.

Speaker 5 (01:28:22):
That's what I thought. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
I thought everybody the anchor and the timeline keeps the
timeline alive.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
That's and that Spider Verse.

Speaker 9 (01:28:32):
So what I'm what I'm talking about, whatever is all
the universites because they also use cannon events.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
But the way that he is describing how every hero
to have that in order to go on their path
to become a hero, that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
That precedent was said in spite of the way them
is their.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Anchor, their anchor be And like I said, that was logan.

Speaker 8 (01:28:53):
Yeah, So I mean what you're trying to say is
that every every superhero has that moment where they become
the superhero. This is what sets me off on that path,
and they canalyzed that by calling it the cannon event
and Spider Verse. But you can technically use that for everything,
because I mean, it happens everywhere, like the Uncle Ben moments.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
I mean, and I and even like I said in
this space, if we were even using that, I mean,
I feel like I haven't still had it, still hasn't
had a cannon event. She's not a hero yet, She's
not fighting for anything but her silster right now. So
it's like, but so what I do. So there's two
things as in my theory of this, I also feel

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like this was all just like we were saying, it
could have really just been it just ended with a conversation.
And even if even if you can say that der
Mama was kind of or not Matista was putting stuff
in her head or she kind of thinking about this,
that all could be that she just thought out the
possibility of like what could happen? They doing the deal?
You know, I'm saying so like cause in my mind,

(01:29:52):
I feel like he didn't give her her he gave
her the knowledge of magic. Did you see that? I
didn't see the.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
It's on the suit when looking at that flashback and
their suits in the background, it has the hood on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
The reason this this got threaten, it almost got three
because of this almost got I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Said, that's what I felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
That could have been just a scene, like I said,
like anception type of scene, like you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
I'm saying, like when if they start to the season
whatever you like she said, no, or you know, she
thought about all that kind of stuff. It almost sells
me to because it only tells me because they showed
the arm like they didn't show the on. But it
doesn't make sense to me because this unless unless where
we're talking now that it completely changes the timeline, like
where nobody expects nobody like like you said, we only

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the news has changed that she is that only Gary
dies you're saying, and everybody in the whole world just
looks at a totally different things like that's the only
way this can work because you finish go Spiral had
to explain this to everybody she had brought express I think.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
He I don't, that's it's like, that's not even a
big thing. He powerful if he can do that's fine.
Just we strange we wrote reality or are we feel like?

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
I mean, like, but as I said, I feel like,
that's what I feel like. That's what I said, That's
what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I think it is.

Speaker 7 (01:31:16):
It gets I feel like, you know, reality powers from.

Speaker 5 (01:31:20):
Is trying to build his ages of of fisto. It's like,
all right, look at it. Let me pull up the
stops for you because I want you you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
I feel like I feel like, I mean, I feel
like she would that I can understands to reality all
that kind of thing because she if he just gives
her the knowledge of magic and how to do everything,
you know, say like we can there to look at
the beginning of a source of supreme reread because of
just the path that she goes with this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Bobody knows exactly because I'm saying I'm not up on
the heart comedy, but if I'm not mistaken, there is
an iron heart that she's evil in the comments at
some point.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
I don't know, so I'm like, that's I'm so like
for me, it feels like, so that's what I feel like,
if there is the only way it could go that
it was like if they do the timeline change, like
she really rewrote the magic and rewrote history.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Because I don't know, I think both.

Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
I don't think both out of the question, Like I said,
I think that's a very easy route they're going.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Yeah, they build her up into a Tony Start, but
just an evil version.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Like the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
Have my Festo behind her.

Speaker 9 (01:32:18):
I think she's gonna build herself an empire, but it's
gonna have some underlying shady dealings just like Tony Start,
where you know, selling, selling text doing stuff. And then
when they finally come to you know, bust her out,
it's gonna be like that's gonna be heard because.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
I can also see, yeah, because if they keep it real,
I can also see the change like that we need
Where I said the cannon event that uh, every hero
needs is that Nally dies again and you just realize,
like she has to die, man, Like you're saying, like
what you're doing, they have so many.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Other kind of when it's coming, like yeah, without the
death of Natalie, she doesn't turn to the hero. So
now if I'm bringing you Natalie back, then you are
easier to be influenced to something else.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Yeah, So like I can easily see because that's what
made me mad because it's like, bro, you're not over this,
Like you just had a conversation with everybody being over
Like I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
I think that's series And like I said, I was about.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
I was about to give it a three. I was
talking to somebody and I was like, what, the series
is a tragedy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
That's what the series really is.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
It's not about it's not about building the character up
from their high points. This series is about low getting lower.
When I was okay that because everything, I'll give it
a three point five, it's still because it's still It's
just dumb to me that you are consistently like I
said that, I said it at the person. That's when

(01:33:39):
I was like, bro, for a genius, she made dumb decisions.
And then my god, he was like, bro, it don't
stop everything. At every influction point you making, you just making.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
That's why I being a kid, I did say that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
But see that's why enough enough.

Speaker 9 (01:34:00):
Asked my whole point about Peter Parker brow niggas trying
to make these decisions like like Iron Man, we applaud
you when you destroy your your ship, making these suits
doing all this. Then when the suits turn on you,
Oh that was stupid, bro. You should have did of course,
because I.

Speaker 6 (01:34:20):
Already had already had now public I got into the
debate with some of that. I went back to you know,
I'm sorry I'm sorry for disagreement with you on Spider.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Man, because no, I'm mad at.

Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
Just cut your hand and all that should have been over.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Don't don't even bring up I mean also, like I said,
even even with like what Doug was saying about. You know,
this is like Iron Man three vibes. It's also the
original Doctor Strange vibes, like Doctor Strangers. Literally like well
I learn try.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
And I didn't know. I didn't know about this run
until the Spider Man. I think it's brand new day. Yeah,
this is it's literally that run like it is Peter
Parker in that run, Peter Parker.

Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
I think no May died. Peter Parker wanted her back.
He made it deal with Mephisto. Mifisto said, I want
your marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
He was married to. He was married to MJ. So
he rewrote the entire reality because he had to unwrite that.
And obviously the ripple offfenctsive stuff. This is essentially that,
so we.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Don't know what.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
We don't know what he I guess the rewrite would
be bringing Natalie back. I don't know what what the
ripple affected you. Obviously we ain't got there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
But it's it's.

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
Essentially, this person super close to you died. You made
it deal with Memphisto to bring them back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
So here's what here's where I give Reread a lot
of like, again, I'm not saying that she definitely made
a whole lot of dumb decisions right, and the reason
why again, it's the it's the the unexpected from me
because I was like, yeah, think about it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
We got Peter Parker and my tea kid.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Like I said, eventually he does stupid ship, but then
it all works out. We had Surry super smart does
ship always works it out?

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:35:59):
I was like, you know, we can get the work
ship out part though, That's what I'm though, I said,
we don't always have to have them always listen.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
This is wanna be something you want to know because
I was like unexpected, I expected that, or is she
gonna work it out? So when they didn't do it,
I was like, oh ship to me, it amplified it because,
like I said, now I'm like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
I really want to see what's going on. I really
want to see and I was excited about that that
kid we kind of worked it out to make another
dumb ass decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
But That's also why I can say, because I think
I said that before about like re read might be
actually introduced more to like the Stuarts, the street level
heroes and everything. Because the only person that actually even
has a bit of knowledge that's a hero is Peter
that she can reel with, that she can actually run
into and talk about. You're saying that actually has any

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knowledge of like dealing with strange magic in any of
that stuff. That would be another hero level person.

Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
I mean, she's in Chicago and Peter's and your but
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
I feel like, I mean, even if he was reaching out,
I feel like they gonna bring that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
They're gonna bring that together at some point.

Speaker 8 (01:37:07):
Yeah, I know, I can see that. I just I
feel like I think both said it earlier. She she
really never dealt with the trauma a new way. She
found a new way to latch on, and she lasted
on to her the death of reality to AI nality,
and then she lost a I Naly, and that's like,
I can't, I can't, I can't function. I need I

(01:37:28):
need Natalie, no matter how that's gonna be, what happens,
I need to bring her back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
But I do agree with the random day idea that
that was even his clue. If you want to break
Spider Man into it, that could be like a moment
where because like what I do believe is that is
not going to be evil. She made the deal, but
she's as a person who really is she's figuring out
how to get the funk out the deal.

Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
So that's why I disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
I believe that she's I don't think she's going to
be evil, but you know what she gave up, but
she was working with the Hood.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
She always had it in her head, justified, justifiable reason
of why she's doing this, Beater, it's whatever the greater
good is, and the greater good to her it's I
think it's gonna be evil.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
It's it's well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
But now she might be fine with that, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:38:14):
I don't know, because here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
There's all we remember just like how he told, how
he told the Hood with power, you're never gonna have
enough power with re Re and we've seen it with
Tony and this whole wif spiraled over, you're never gonna
feel like the world is safe enough with the technology
that you have is never going to be like, all right,
this is enough. So that's how Myfista is gonna always
keep that hand on her. It's like, oh you need

(01:38:35):
more power, or here's what we gotta do this, here's
what we gotta do. And she's gonna be like, she's
gonna justify it. So it's gonna be sketchy ship like
Mefisto ain't doing ship, like all right.

Speaker 5 (01:38:45):
Kill dish, but it's not gonna be evil.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
But she's gonna she's gonna be doing ship and it's
gonna be like bro like you know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
But I'm saying it always because you said it's for
the greater good. So it's all gonna be in trying
to stop this deal with Fisto like you I'm saying.
So like I said, I feel she's taking a deal.
You don't know, she's not gonna try to get out,
like figure out how to get out.

Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
Did she recognize I don't think I think she recognizes
who she made a deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Still, that's what I said. I feel like even her researching,
and if I give you as much, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:39:15):
I don't think she don't realize what she gave up right,
So I feel like her getting Nalie back, she's not
gonna care about the suit anymore, because her whole reason
for building the suits were to protect the family. Now
that she has what she felt like she needed back,
losing her soul is what's going to like. It's really
affecting everything, right because now she's not going she's not
gonna have that same passion towards building those suits because

(01:39:37):
she got Nali back.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
I don't that's that's all's trying to finish, Like I
feel like it ain't the suit, Like I feel like,
if you get Natalie back, you know, I'm gonna have
to go like I got my wish to get you back,
but I'm at to give myself. I need to stop that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I don't think I'm saying she doesn't remember she.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
But that's that's why I say, like, if we're getting
to the brand new day aspect of what you like,
if that made me think about what you're talking about
the Spider Man thing, it would be that in her
pursuit of trying to figure out how to stop this,
you get in touch with Peter Parker, Like how you
can rewrote? How the fuck did you do this? You
know I'm saying, like you rewrote a hood?

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
But if she knows that, But I mean that's what
I say.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
I feel like that's because that but that she didn't
get hood, didn't give her like I feel like the
hood gave like or Offistle gave her the hood. But
I feel like she he also really gave her just
the knowledge of magic. So that's why I said, all
this writing down and she was telling Natalie like I
would break all the shit down figuring out magic. But
you gonna and that pursuit. You're gonna figure out all
right if I can, if I actually was the one

(01:40:33):
to bring Nally back, while me doing all these I
can figure out how to get the funk out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
See, That's what I'm thinking. So here's this is and
this is why.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
But she still this is why I disagree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
On She's trying to get out with get out of
the deal with the fist Tho.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
I believe that Fistal gave her the hood and get
like I said, gave her the knowledge of the magic,
and she was writing on it and doing figuring it out.
But even when she hugged Natalie, and even in that moment,
she didn't say, oh, Shestal brought you back.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
In her head, she possibly thinks that she just brought.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
Yeah, I mean that's why I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:41:03):
So again, you gotta think when.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
When the Hood wanted Powerfisto could have gave him the power,
but he said no, I'm gonna give you the tools.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
To get the one that you want, right, So I
agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
He probably gave her the magic and said, all right,
give her the magic, let her figure it out. She's
trying to figure it out and at the point make
her think that she was the one that brought back Natalie.
So now she has no reason to get away from
the from Vinstal. Why would you get away from a fistal?

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
He didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
You can't get away from would you want to?

Speaker 9 (01:41:30):
But that was the thing that was the reality that
Mefisto had put together all the time. Yeah, yeah, so no, No,
what I'm saying, what she was doing in that reality
was trying to reverse the magic that Zelma put in.
So that's why she was trying to like, that's why
he was luring her in with the idea like look,
I can give you your AI back and then she
was like that's not enough.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Basically during a conversation, that's when he gave her the
vision that I can make her real.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Well, you said.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
That's where he said, it depends on if you believe
it's a vision or if it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
No, No, it was the vision.

Speaker 9 (01:42:00):
That's what he told her. He told her, I just
rewatched it. He literally told her, look at what I
can give you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
That's why she like, So you so you don't think that,
So you don't think that you don't believe that's true
because I'm on this.

Speaker 5 (01:42:11):
I'm on the side of what we saw is actually
the future.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
I think I think they're playing.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
I think they were playing you both Actually he's telling her,
but we are also single flash forward.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
Yeah, I believe forward. You know, like I know what
you're gonna do. You're gonna work your people. But this
is what I can do. That's why it went from
I don't believe she thought talking about and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Why I said, I don't believe that she believes that
Mefisto brought her back.

Speaker 9 (01:42:39):
I believe that she believes that, but he don't. But
he gonna treat her just like he did the hood
where they're gonna keep he gonna keep.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
It, gonna keep a content.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
Believe that she whatever imagine that she was doing when
when whenever we come back to revisit this, She's gonna
be like, dang, okay, so this is I brought you
back instead of bringing actual AI back.

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
And again in that sense the Tim McCarty, what the
initial point?

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Why would why would real you say I want to
get away from a fistal because offistle didn't do anything
but just give me the tools to crack this cold myself, right,
So why would I want to get away from that?

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
Yeah, until you until you realize, oh wait, I.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Didn't crack this cold, official just bring it back. I mean,
I mean, I don't think it'd even be to that though.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
It'll be until something. It will have to be until
the next person gets hurt. And that she she's like,
whatever happened is not saving them, right, because that's.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
Sort of that was.

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
I think that's one in one.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
I think because like when I say, when she realized,
oh I didn't bring Natalie back, it's gonna be that
moment somebody's gonna die. She like, well, I know how
to fix this and it's not gonna work. And if
she gonna realize, wait a minute, it wasn't me, it
was my fisto. This is wrong, and go back to
that moral complex.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
I mean GE's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
It's gonna be I need to bring this person back
to that's.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Gonna yeah, cause I feel like, I mean, I feel
like it's gonna be something wrong with Natalie. Of course
that's off. That would even be even even the reason
that she is because I mean, she definitely know me
fistal got something to do because the nigga are I'm
acting up?

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
Said right, So it's like you definitely know, like you
are aware that whether you did it or Mephisto did it,
you activated some ship.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:44:11):
That happened.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
So but I do feel like in the system, like
we're saying, when we creating the cannon event, and even
when she has to understand that things have to happen
for her to be she's supposed to be, the brother dies,
you know what I'm saying, Like you get her back,
but now you lose the brother, like like you have
to deal with death in Greece.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
You don't know what the world is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
It could be literally like in this rewritten world, he
was the one that died, like he not not even
like he just dies after.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
He already, right, So I mean that's what I'm saying,
what we got that insne within the garage. So I
feel like even in the world that we think about
how we wrote when.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
She walked out of that mirror, might be him and.

Speaker 9 (01:44:49):
Possibly, yeah, you know what I'm saying, you can replace anybody.
It could be the mom.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
It could be.

Speaker 9 (01:44:55):
Like I said, like you that she knew that we
were introduced to. They could definitely kill them all and
make those her driving.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
And that's what I said. I feel like here before
you jump, I just want to I definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
Want to finish.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
That's why I said I feel like the battle to
with my fistal even though we know it's not. I'm
not saying he's gonna beat my fista, but I'm saying
as far as like even continue her story, that's the setup.
Like you, even if you started the next episode with
her hugging everything with Alley and they walk out and
you like to say the mirror change, I'm immediately going
to the fistic, bro, what the fuck you do? Like, well,
I gave you what you wanted, but something it comes

(01:45:30):
out of costs. So that now it's like I'm even
more trying to.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
Get in this ship with you again.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
But I'm leaning more on what you said that he
gave her the tools of the magic that she's gonna
believe that she did it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Oh yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
But here's the thing, the one thing that King made
I actually realized, if they do a full swap, two
people died, right, So if it's if it's Mom and
Bro right, you gotta think because like I said, it
was her she said. He said, I know what you
what you want, I can give it to you. What
you want is you want to be able to still
build ship with your dad and had Natalie back. You

(01:46:03):
never really all your emotions at this point when I
met you at you at your at this point, you
was at odds back and forth with your mom a
little bit. You have a little bit moment back and
forth with Bro. But you so it's like I can
see that equivalent exchange. You know what I'm saying, the
wrong two people died.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
I feel the right two people and it would be
a very This is what you asked, Like I didn't
say what I was gonna do. I think it's gonna
happen because you I think even if she is the
one farnter that she's rewriting it and it worked, that
means she just changed time, right, That's why I said
it's perfect. I have it in the in the thing
so that when you walk out of it, it's like,

(01:46:40):
now you're gonna see what you actually did.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
So now imposes the question because remember this was just
the one off series. This was not right, So where
does like where does where?

Speaker 10 (01:46:48):
Did?

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
Where?

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
Does where does this pop back up at? I guess where?
How where does this pick back up at? Or like?

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
Because remember we went to this series saying, all right,
it got to lead.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Into something either Shamee She or doctor Strange.

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
I feel like because those are the two right now,
I think that are heavily magic based, and that we've
been hearing rumblings of bringing something back to the table.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
But I think those are the two most suitable unless
you're giving us a.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
How do we get there? Because now because now we
just we just you just brought up San Francisco and
you brought up.

Speaker 9 (01:47:21):
New York, right, and she is He's already been working along, right,
And that's why I think when you think about magic,
it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Doesn't matter what I'm saying, They can really go anywhere.

Speaker 9 (01:47:32):
And it's and the fact that it's dark magic means
now I think they will eventually have to bring one
of those in because with Velma and the Hood having
their conversation, you only gonna reach out to your mentor you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
That's why like it got to be strange case, I
know what you said, because how else do you bring
in all these magic elements? Like in what in what
way do you bring in all these magic.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Like marvel it's not left threads to say up, I
feel like that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
I mean, the only way to eat his way from
this is like the fact that something like the mom
already got all these connections. So then you start to
say the next season where she like I got to
go back to her because I didn't do something new season,
you know what I'm saying. But even out the connection
like to try to bring Strange or whatever back in,
it's like if you you're gonna have to go tell
what's the name and what the you just did up the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Dark being spread?

Speaker 9 (01:48:25):
Yeah, and the fact that because like I think when
she first initially saw it and she knew it was
just some other person, she probably didn't realize like, oh,
it's in trench in my city. But it's just like
how like San Francisco or New York. They got somebody
to protect their city. I'm sure she is one on
her side protecting the city.

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
Got a temple in Chicago? Where did they say all
they had temples that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
I think they.

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
Got a connection because it's a large enough city. But
have to be something long center because he he starts
to spring right so.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
So he's a hierarchy of magic right now.

Speaker 8 (01:49:04):
So if anything, it would be a storyline involving him,
like since this dark magic happened, that could.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Be say that's the easy thing is It's just if
it's just a mom that said words to Woking, I'm like, hey, what.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Even out there?

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
I'm going to ask a question did they Did they
set any presidents of like when new magic or somebody
or new magic user comes about, is there any type
of alert to this, Like is that did they set
any any time?

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
I don't think so. I think I think it's just
depending on what they do.

Speaker 15 (01:49:32):
How do they discover Wanda's Like no, I mean they
kind of did with multi versus magic with America and
Wong being able to you know, kind of sense that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:44):
But he also dipped out really at the beginning of
the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
They didn't really Strange what to go find Wanda. It's strange,
he knew he he knows Wanda, so he didn't go.

Speaker 9 (01:49:55):
Since he says the evil until dreams. He had to
dream memes, the memories of the other strangers from the
other dimensions. He was dreaming their memories. So he kept
dreaming about American with her over.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
And over again.

Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
And then when he met her, he like, damn, I
know you.

Speaker 9 (01:50:12):
But it was because of his dream So okay, because
but it was the fractures in the multiverse that was
allowing him to see those visions.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
So here's the thing. So this is possibly where okay
variants from another you. Because when Wanda brought back.

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
The kids, that's when they realized she was that powerful
the winding maximalm think.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Created being. That's when they was like, oh, ship the
jewel when we broke it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Up, So that could be the alert the creation of Natalie.
This Natalie is not Ai the now you brought you
brought back Natalie from the dead. That's the alert to say,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
That's what I think it would be.

Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
Doctor Strange three, I just let's he puts me called
they don't have a name or anything. They don't damn
stript draining thing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
It's just yeah, I think they're trying to pieces. I said,
I feel like we still need the Iron Heart to happen.
You can really kind of piece a strange movie together
and how they will go. But I do I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
If we don't get Strange Academy, that'd be really it'd
be really heartbreaking because I feel like it'd be a
good setup for don't.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
I don't have faith that they would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
Because it's just such a different universe of like it
can have its own separate thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
We're saying, like the Strange itself like strange in its
own right. It's really, to me, supposed to just be
dabbing into the MCU Avengers type of shit. He really
has his own thing. You're saying, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
That's where he, like I said, if.

Speaker 6 (01:51:38):
They hadn't made the comments that they already made about
wanting two pairs, they already said that the MTU got
stretched too thin, like that was their big thing with
mc got stretched tooth in. There are too many different
projects here and there they really want to focus on
I think they said what was it. I think it
was four projects a year or something like that, maybe
even less right, and three of those were supposed to

(01:51:58):
be movies.

Speaker 8 (01:51:58):
Big movies in the shows series, three movies shows beginning
the end of the year, focusing on.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
The wind show, what's the other show?

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
Wonder Man, Okay, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
Wonder many.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
I just feel like you're gonna have to give us,
like if we rehab, I was saying the weird thing,
like if.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Outside of I'm not even saying re real, show up real,
because she's.

Speaker 6 (01:52:27):
Probably gonna show up and whatever Young Avengers or Champions whatever,
the Champions whatever they're doing with that, like she's going
to show up. This is strictly about some of those
other loose ends. One just the fact that how far
along it was filmed. I think it's just sort of
they know you fist still gonna show up somewhere. But
that loose end of Zelma and Park, I think it's.

Speaker 8 (01:52:48):
Maybe they touched on that in a no wikend series.
I mean, because you know can sense that power.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Yeah, it was Zelda Zelma, characters will show.

Speaker 8 (01:52:56):
I just think that story, that story they might not
might Academy might not be a big plot point anywhere,
making serious as focused.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
On Strange Academy after his focused on the final you
want to continue. I'm just in the way that they're going.
I feel like they are like, we'll pick these characters.
That's why I want that. I want you to know
this part.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
I'm just like if Disney, if Disney want to try
to get that Harry Potter money Strange Academy to do it,
you know what I'm saying, Like a whole movie of
magicians and all that was.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
The initial cell.

Speaker 7 (01:53:26):
Yeah, but you know the other strolls that didn't do
as well received, so that you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
Know, I.

Speaker 9 (01:53:34):
Don't think the motivation that they will change their mind
because it's all about money, not saying it has to
even be recent.

Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
Like if you already know you got your movie slanted
out for the next two years, you can.

Speaker 9 (01:53:43):
Obviously throw some hints out there at the telling of
other movies that leads you home to twenty Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
And I feel like I feel like just just in
the fact that we usually get, especially at the end
of a series where they announced when they will be
back and really was not there was no ending saying
not even know yeah, there was no ending line saying
we return anything her next the next set of photo

(01:54:10):
like the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Next after after Doom.

Speaker 6 (01:54:13):
Probably yeah, probably like whatever they're doing young like the champions,
like like that's we want fully hurt next time showing
up because I think even Doctor Strange three is either
in between the two Avengers films or after, so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
I think so it's like you know what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
I think it's that second set of chairs that we
talked about. Remember we said that there's most like we
saw doing that. I think because I think they saw
the reception was not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
As what that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Way.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
But I'm saying whatever the next casting that is announced
for the next Avengers Doomsday, that's where we gets. I
think she's gonna be because you gotta think it was
like you said, they gotta be another side of the team,
and I think that that's gonna be the other in
the in the battle world, because you gotta think because
now you're dealing with the fil so you're dealing with
magic like yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
Know, y'all got a lot more face than Disney than
I do us apparently, because I truly believe they will fully.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Be like all right, that's nothing. They probably won't.

Speaker 8 (01:55:11):
They probably won't touch that for a little bit because
next year we got what fucking next year we got
uh Spider Man, uh the first Avengers. Yeah, so I
mean that's already planned out. They might not get to
that until like twenty twenty eight, right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
So yeah, man, So I mean overall, I said, overall,
I did enjoy the series. Like I said, I still
I still stand on my flour.

Speaker 12 (01:55:35):
I liked it the themes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
I liked it that it wasn't a happy story. I
liked the action. I liked it at the lore, and
I like that, you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
Know, the theories that I'm still leaning on the faith
with Disney. So because of those theories, it got me excited.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Yeah, that's why. That's why I feel like I feel
like it hasn't been a lot of series that we've
watched that you can say even gave so many opportunities
or just like theories that you can really come go
off of, because I feel like most of them usually
are kind of ended and you're saying where you don't
really they don't really tie nothing, like there's nothing tied
to this, But there's so many theories that it can

(01:56:11):
be tied to, Like, there's so many ways that you
can put this story into MCU if they wanted to,
or like you said, you're saying, and I think that's
what That's really why I liked it, because I said,
I feel like as much as I didn't like the
ending of her of the Evening, but it's also up
up for interpretation or how you look at the ending.
So it's like, if you really saw that as real,
you can be like, man, I really hate the ending,
but I get what you're saying, Like it still now

(01:56:32):
it gives me something I didn't expect that just throws
you know, saying open doors whatever. But like I said,
I feel like having an inception kind of ending. How
I look at it is like it still leeds to
over ended, like it's still a really really like if
y'all really wanted to bring her back, y'all can really
do all kind of shit with it, you're saying, and
find a way if you like, cause I feel like
I said, I feel that she didn't have the canon
event to be a hero. Yet you're saying, so you've

(01:56:54):
got to do something in that space.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
An if any closing closing stagents from y'all, No, I
feel like I said my piece, you know, three half
five is still.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
Like I'm really like I said, I was, I was
strong on than three point five until I was like
it really, I said, until I was like, okay, you
know what, I can kind of deal with this end
of it. I like this end of you said.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
I mean, it was a solid a solid show.

Speaker 8 (01:57:21):
I think the ending left me wanting too much more,
uh and like I don't with them not having a
set direction on where they want to go with it afterwards.
Its kind of said, bro, why would y'all make the
show so good and then and just killing and just
like you know what, we don't know, we don't do
things for the colors.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
Yeah, I mean that's again. I like the show. It
to me, it started well, it gave me what I
needed in the middle that I did enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
The three episodes.

Speaker 9 (01:57:56):
It took me a little minute like it just like damn,
I got to sit here and watch all these two
night but it was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
So seeing the end with PERFONCT, I.

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Just want more.

Speaker 9 (01:58:06):
I want more, want a season two and let me
want more, you know what I'm saying. And I'm okay
with it. I'm okay with it. Just don't I just
hope Disney. Don't do what Disney do and like give
us a second season of shee Hole and not give
us a second season Iron hurt, you know, just because
they're like, we just do.

Speaker 5 (01:58:24):
Something, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:58:26):
I really I love the I love the fact that
it was unofficially teased from the fistal for so long,
as far as just throughout you know, the m c
U and then us tryally getting him just I don't
want it to die here, you know what I mean,
Like if it's is such a big character.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Deliver I think that's even in that space you put
my fistol in this show, so this like you get
that you can have him bad being and that out,
but he's that big of a character that re rely
has to be like you know what I'm saying, And
it's a.

Speaker 9 (01:58:56):
Great platform, Like you set the tone for if you're
gonna do with magic, if you're gonna deal with the
dark dimensions, if you're to me, if you're dealing with
people that's trying to stop a bigger, big bad this
is the route to go, you know what I'm saying,
Because you don't have I saw the light bulb because

(01:59:18):
that's always look at it, always look at how does
this lead to somewhere else? And the way I'm looking
at it is like, if y'all gonna deal with the realms,
this is the only way you you know, far it
off perfectly to entertwine those smaller characters for the lead off.

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
So here's the This can be a better Valentino in
my eyes, right because it said Valentino.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
From Thunderbolts who orchestrated thunder.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Because people dropping ages of ages Offisto, I will say,
even if, even if you don't give me full Mephisto
or Rereach, give me moments of the end credit scenes
or whatever the situation is, is this for a setup?

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:59:57):
It's it's always Mefisto popping up, but his agents with them.
So now the Fisto pops up with Reread by his side.
That's the new muscle, you know what I'm saying. And
then whoever the next person's influencing boom oh ship that
we know something building up like because that's the one
thing that they didn't do well lately. They haven't did
a build up. So that's where that's my last This
can be a better validteer. This can be Mephisto building
up his agents of Mefisto for whatever the resolve is

(02:00:20):
from there.

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
That's what I would say. Let's take the recommendation.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
I'm recommending iron Heart, go watch iron Heart definitely, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Yeah, you know, because I don't have anything new, I'm
trying to think about watching anything new.

Speaker 12 (02:00:36):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
It's gonna recommend Drastic World, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
Again, I don't go into I don't go into the
Jurassic Park movies, like any of that franchise.

Speaker 2 (02:00:46):
They're like, I need to see the top tier action.
I'm sure to see niggas fight dinosaurs and like run dinosaurs.

Speaker 8 (02:00:53):
It could have been a text message that could have
been a gift. They could have sent it as a gift. Well,
you're talking about dress disregard and everything.

Speaker 5 (02:01:03):
He said, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
It wasn't. It wasn't the best movie.

Speaker 6 (02:01:07):
I don't think it was the worst in the franchise,
like they're there are definitely Dominion was definitely worse than this.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
So it's like, you come, you took a step up
in my book, I was.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
Telling Ditch, I was like, the only thing that I
didn't like about this month is actually the actual main
mutant dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
I wasn't here for that one either.

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
Even pop up enough to take you out of everything
else to me was old. It was a solid dressed
I almost dropped the spoiler.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
Also that was also a good win for me. So
all right, so uh for me, I have to so
I'm prime. They got a movie Heads of State, but.

Speaker 5 (02:01:46):
I caught it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
It is so what it reminds me of the toned down.

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
Suicide Squad, the interactions between.

Speaker 9 (02:01:57):
Suicide So like those two budding here is the whole time,
like the literal I hate you, but I gotta work
with you, Yeah, from front to back, and then at
the end they become kind of friends. So it's it's
a good it's a good campy movie, if that makes sense.
We don't always say good bad movies.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Yeah, I mean when you said Suicide Squad, I mean
even when I saw the trailer and I was just
I definitely like thought, like these niggas work together, hilarious.

Speaker 8 (02:02:29):
So I remember I told you all to watch that interview.
That's how I found out about the movie, because they's
both on Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
And they talked about it, and he said, well, it
was really the director. He saw how we worked there
and he saw how he was able to bounce off
of each other.

Speaker 9 (02:02:43):
Everything like that, and it was like, yeah, we want
that so and that's that's my point, Like it is
such a good movie in that aspect of matter of fact,
like Fast and the Furious movies. You know how people
watch it and you'd be like, dude, this is a
little over the top, but it fits for that scenario.

Speaker 5 (02:02:58):
That's kind of the same thing you get with this
terrible second movie that I have. It's all Hulu is
just released right It's called Riff Rat Riff Rat.

Speaker 9 (02:03:09):
I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's
a comedy kind of thriller drama with.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
Oh Man, it's a really great cast. But Pete Davidson.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (02:03:22):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
It's so good, bro. That movie was so surprisingly good
because it was serious with comedic actors.

Speaker 9 (02:03:32):
Since so that's one of my like the ones for
the week. If you got time, you just look at
something to watch, Go watch that, Go check that out.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
That was a good one. Real quick down to down.
Season two is back.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
That intro had me bad boy.

Speaker 7 (02:04:00):
Also so good.

Speaker 2 (02:04:02):
I was so upset from the intro. This episode is great,
typical but I was just like, bro, Bro, do.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
You know I didn't They could have just kept the same.
That's all I expected when I hit start, and I
was ready for the originally like so the hear they
should have just put it you your hockey show, give
me one fire intro and were running with were running
that's the name of the soul like the movie to
show Bro, like what is this? What is this?

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
I was the trip?

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
What episode was great?

Speaker 9 (02:04:33):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (02:04:34):
So I got two originally had three, but kings my
other one, so I got to the first one is
I think might have suggested this a while ago.

Speaker 7 (02:04:43):
Was Soccomodo days.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, devil a little bit, I told.

Speaker 7 (02:04:53):
Him, But no, I rock with it. That's dope.

Speaker 8 (02:04:56):
And my my other, my other one since it would
have been Heads of State Division had a new DLC
I think Fight for Brooklyn or something like that. So
I've just been running back Division two shop. I forget
how fun it is, and you know there's been a
lot of action on there, so it's been it's been
dope to to get on there and play with rand.

Speaker 7 (02:05:19):
If you ever joined my group, man, just know that
we're doing whatever the I want to do with my group.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
You ready to follow the I'm doing fall in line
next season. The House of the Dragon should be next summer.

Speaker 7 (02:05:34):
I think Seven Kingdoms is the beginning of the year.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Remember we was upset about how long ismer.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
I think it's I think it's wrapped up like I
think it's I think.

Speaker 8 (02:05:42):
Yeah, uh, seven Kingdoms at the beginning of the year,
and I think House of the Dragon any year.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Okay, all right, go to geek Sead podcast dot com.

Speaker 5 (02:05:53):
I started revamping the.

Speaker 4 (02:05:54):
Site, so if you go see it, you'll see what
I'm doing is I'm making it more creator centric, so
meaning that you will be able to if you were
a fan of King, you'll be able to find King
and all this content. You're a fan of Trip, You'll
be able to find more of him in this content,
and so forth and so forth. All right, on the website,
we do got like I said, for Carti's cap collection
up there, so you know what I'm saying, get your
cap on.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:06:14):
The only cap that we like around here.

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You know what I'm saying, big cap energy.

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You know what I'm saying. But make sure you follow
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Podcasts and you can find everybody's social media or you
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I got that up there. Now join our Patreon, Patreon
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Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
We had a great meeting this week as a team,
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Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Join our discord is a whole bunch of dope people
talking dope shit.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
Like I said, we like to build on their community
and everything like that. But as always, this is the
only podcast that blent.

Speaker 8 (02:06:57):
When we're thinking, if y'all will be at the Brewers
game on Friday, yeah to pop up booth.

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Yeah, we are to.

Speaker 5 (02:07:04):
Pop up at Brewer Stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:07:07):
The Negro Uh, they're gonna do an honor of Black
history and the Negro League games and.

Speaker 5 (02:07:11):
Is uh They're doing a game and we're gonna be there.

Speaker 9 (02:07:14):
From five from five thirty to seven and then the
game starts at seven fifteen.

Speaker 4 (02:07:19):
Yep, So make sure you pop up man comes rock
with us in the right yep yep, like I said.
And if you want to see us in your city, man,
make sure you put that in the comments. Let us
know so we can figure out what convention is out
in your area. We can figure out what we want
to do. This geek set is trying to hit the road.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:07:33):
We got a whole pop up scenario situation going on.

Speaker 5 (02:07:35):
So we're trying to bring that to you guys asap.

Speaker 4 (02:07:38):
So as always, this is the only podcast that blame
Hip Hop Coachy and geek Coaching together and we are
out piece