Episode 193: Would You Rather Be J. Cole or Vanilla Ice?

Today we talking Will Smith and Soundtrack music, the UK/US Rap Beef, Mortal Kombat II & Stranger Things Season 5. Come join the convo!

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 3 (01:50):
So we started talking about I don't know, we were
talking about some trivia and ship. We got end up
talking about soundtracks. Okay, my hot take and I got
this hot takee because I just started thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
It.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Will Smith used to do so many songs on his soundtracks,
Like I said, I mean, obviously Been in Black is
the big one.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think those are maybe it's only too right Black West.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean he did he did a Black Songs Dio.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
He did the song on Bad Boys.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, you do a Bad Boys Bad Boys writer, not specifically,
but I'm sure you probably did it on Bad boys.
These just all the singles, and some of these they
went over to albums too.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
How how much did them singles sell?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Because I got my heart take is that Will Smith
might be the best soundtrack rapper as far as sales go.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
So are you saying he could sell the album or
selling movie.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm talking about the soundtrack song. I guess song.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
It sounds the best soundtrack song.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
He I'm saying so the most. So more than that
dropped down to get your on the plans?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Club?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Was that a movie that was on what you looking up?
I look players Club?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Come on, y'all think we be clubbing so more than
Men in Black y'all I'm loving I'm.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
A whole and we be clubbing so more than white
people want to listen to. I was just in Cleveland.
I mean I was in four different places. You're talking
culturally important to what I'm talking about. This is what
I'm saying. Each DJ mixed that in it's regional. Still
agreeing on that. I'm talking about culture in the last,

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in the last, culturally fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
When the last time you heard men and Black the song?

Speaker 6 (03:37):
That's not fair because I said fifteen, I'm giving you fifteen.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I heard it in black? Actually this is.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Public in public in the movie broy didn't even chart
past thirty two.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
We be clipping? Did we be clubbing? Didn't get a certification.
They didn't get a certification. Men in Black bron the
song black? Okay, but I mean, what about the Juice soundtrack?
So we're talking about so who but who? The movie?
The movie no but who are we? But too about?
Didn't have a scenature song on there? What song on Juice?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
What's the song that goes up against? What song is beating?
Men in Black?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
The only song that I can think of is All
the Lights by Kendrick Lamar and Sissa that could potentially.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Do that might have it old? I did not have
a song on the Juice soundtrack?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
What about the other rims?

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Sorry, Blue Streak, the Blue Streak soundtrack, I feel like,
bow wow, look crazy on that motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
She didn't have it so on the Blue But see
the problem that The thing, the thing I had about
your debating is because Will Smith's whole life and career
is being the safest Internactually.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know what, Will Smith.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Will Smith made the TikTok music era possible because he made.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Jingle doesn't take away through he got the mold sounds.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
But I mean, I'm saying so I'm not allowed to
not have a track on the Blue Streak soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know who the lead single on on on Blue
Street soundtrack was Jay Z's best friend.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I just saw that. That was that was interesting. Wow,
And that piked at fifty two, So that's not beating
Will Smith. So I feel like.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Men and Black and then it was that and not yet.
Both of those went west have probably been the second one.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
You should like.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
One number one, I bet you, I bet you're not
your head with number one two, I bet you.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Will Smith got three number one soundtrack.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
That's that did not that one seventy seven okay, okay,
but black Men in Black apparently didn't chart in America.
It went double it went double platinum.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I ain't gonna hold you. That's crazy. I don't get it.
That's crazy. But I'm saying, I.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Feel like there's no rapper that has better that that
has better for me.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That song that also got him a granmy, so said people.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Kendrick be the only one people got soundtrack music Pindrick, Yes, yeah,
fast a few he was faster and furious every one
of those that.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Is probably the number one rapper the Mexican rapt who
did Donzic Cardurero?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I heard, I hear that, what about Seal?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Artist? And I always loved he was beating everything.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, the Titanic song one of those was probably the
number one ever.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Chris Roll wasn't not on too fast and furious.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
That that was that was real for the album that
just got the soundtrack. Nobody's beating Will Smith's accomplishments?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Are you talking American rappers? I guarantee there's no.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I feel like I hear Donza Cardurero to this day
out places.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
But what is a bagger? Though?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
What is called man in black? Was asked to me
the first one?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Right, I didn't really care for that, so.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I think when I got to sing it, I was like,
this was absolutely flowing on. What's funny to me?

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Because obviously that was what he picked for the Matrix.
So I was just like, every time I think about that,
I'm just like, bro, it's gonna be the same track.
But were talking about Matrix is going if we're talking

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we're talking just American rappers, bro, But well.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Know, I mean, I only reason, the only reason I'm
getting to wist because like I said, he was like
the pretty boy, baby boy, you know, clean version. I mean, yes,
go and the movies and on them, because that is
in the movies. In the movies. In the movies he
did do was kids movie is flowing like what he

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was flowing.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
Like just any damsel that's in distress get out of
that dress when they meet Jim West.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Are you still talking about.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
But you can't.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But there's so many other safe rappers out there that
could have competed with him.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
L A l ain't got a hut him down, and
it's I'm trying to finish that level out. My head
is like a Sharks fan and saying we've got track songs.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He just ain't competing with Will smith Man, Big Willie Man,
Will Bro What are you talking about me?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I mean Will Will had to say space Man. I'm
just you under saying that is what it is. I mean,
I guess I don't want to take it. I'm not
taking away from like the song, the songsciding with.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
The movie only one that I can think he's in
the movies.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Idn't want to bust you out like that. All the
Stars went.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Said, that's the only one that potentially could. That's what
I said, can't even scissor all the Stars. Black Panther
sound t I'm black Past.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And that's also different. I feel like that's also the work.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
The thing about that Brazil went two times platinum. Here
it's about the same.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Not the same, but still that that diamond. He does
give it a little bit, give it a booth.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean, I just feel like, you know, saying, I
just give it to Will because that's just who Will is.
I mean, we'll got more like I feel like because
because he had more movies, like but he didn't do
a sound at the independ this day, like he wouldn't know,
you know what I'm saying, Like the thends on the movie.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
He probably got a song y'all do draving.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Hard rind Is we didn't even bring up. Remember he
had the track on the a Latin soundtrack the movie.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
For the movie. I think that might actually did decently well.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
He got a catalog and soundtrack records for kids for
kids for kids movies.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's a lost start.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Something that's not even the same genre the soundtrack and
general but said that because that's that's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
In the rock got a better soundtrack record, he got
Molana like that. What I'm saying, Like, he's not move
on it though, that's not rapping.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
He rapping singing due except bro, I just got a song.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah we're welcome.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
That What can I say except you're welcome? That is
saying bro that No, he actually raps on it. Yeah,
I can go on and on and all that ship.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
So on the on the soundtrack, lin Manuel Miranda did
all of the rock stuff. Manuel Miranda so like Hamilton Nigga.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
So he like wrote everything he's saying for him.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
On the actual soundtrack, it says that lin Manuel Miranda did.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
All the movie.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
He's singing and the performers it has. It had so
much the performer and the movie they had to rock.
But I guess on the soundtrack versions.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
It was him, so they really didn't play.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
What did that do?

Speaker 5 (11:10):
That's what I'm looking Anyway, it didn't, it didn't seem
like it did.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It might not have got released as a single.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, I don't think that still beat those It looks
like the only single I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
But that's that's what I'm saying. That's what I agree
with like I said with keys, like like he's I'm
not saying he he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Somebody named Jordan Fisher.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Actually I'm not saying that his catalog, like William camalog
isn't great and he you can even I can, I
can agree with you and.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Say, but I'm like his choice.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
No songs are actually to say, the movie itself actually does.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Both other than but black and men and Black is
in the same rating category.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's PG. Thirteen. So how how how so why are
we excluding one from the other? I mean, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's so that's why that's why they're up there equally
with it, because it was.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Family That's what I'm saying, Willson.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But that's what you're trying to know. You're trying to
second way, did I said that like he his all
of his hits come from family movies? Though, No, but look,
you don't have a rap to independence that.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Okay, But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
There's there's there's there's no there's no soundtrack song that
is outside of a family movie that is going to
compete with any of the family movie songs. So when
we're talking soundtracks, if we're talking soundtrack reference, no matter
what it's always gonna be based off of a family movie,
because those are the ones that chart the highest, namely

(12:23):
one from fucking Payton for whatever, It's gonna higher than
any family movie song.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
That's also probably true most I feel like, because in
order to chart high, especially when you're talking about a soundtrack,
you gotta have crossover.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You gotta be a single.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
You're categorizing Will Smith's movies with other movies that aren't
family necessary movie.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No I'm not. I said soundtrack in general, give me
a sound but you couldn't.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
You because if I make a wild Wild West, I can't.
I can't compare the audience that's gonna go see Wild
West is gonna see Black Panther, because that's not gonna
be the same number.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
It's in the scene.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
It's not because one is a black movie and one
of the mixed movie. One one allows anybody to go see.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
That's the movie. I thought, because you said, you said,
and it's Marvel.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
So I was like, I was heading Marvel thing because
I can still be the cast out of black white people.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Barry Stringberg game making a black movie, you you're taking
just Will Smith being black.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
What about the black movie which one is the black
movie Black Panther.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's a Marvel, that's a Marble movie.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Black Panther was a majority black cast. It was one
of the first movies Marvel can finish and y'all can
y'all can go with this what y'all want. But Black
Panther was the first majority black cast movie with black
protagonists antagonists in an all black contract or secondary. Wild

(13:59):
wah West was a mixed movie. It was all ages,
all races, all creeds, all color. Can go see it
and there was no controversy behind it. Black Panther came
with controversy. That's so, that's what I'm saying. You can't
compare the two because they had a tougherr they had
a tougher audience to grasp.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Then I disagree with that immediately.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Black Panther was backed by the larger studio on Earthyney
that is part of the Marvel machine.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Who cares if people don't like it?

Speaker 5 (14:30):
No, no, no, you're saying two separate saying what people did
people people, I don't want to see that because it's
all black casts.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So you think it made a billion just on black people,
because IM gonna let you know it didn't. But my
point is it's tough to like, I get what you're saying,
it's a black film, but it's and this is something
that I've said before this, it's tough to just categorize
it as a black film because it is bankroad again
by the largest studio on Earth.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
But you couldn't say, but you're not gonna sit here
and say that Disney didn't utilize the actual aspect as well.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'm saying like that, Why why is that a differentiator
in the in this debate in regards to that, Because
if that's the case, then you could be like, oh, well,
you can't argue eminem being one of the top, so
you can't put that.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
You can't put that.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
What I would argue without arguing, And I thought we
was arguing with the fact of like we were talking
about family movies.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
No, that's what win.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
No because you like that, I said, because because what
you keep trying to blow away as the fact that
you're saying every any soundtrack of any movie. And but
we at the same time agreed that the highest movies
is going to be family movies. So you're saying that
he has who is better than Will Smith at making soundtracks.

(15:55):
You really got to find somebody who's making family movies
like Will Smith, because that would dude.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Where here's where I Here's where I disagree.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Just because a rapper is in a family movie does
not mean that they're going to make a chart topping song,
because those are two separate engines that are going to
fuel it. We've seen rappers, We've seen ice Cube, We've
seen Tyree's, We've seen so many artists in family made
the movies and they put out a soundtrack song and
that ship was asked so that.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
We cannot just say, oh, Will Smith because he has like, No.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's these are irrelevant factors in the debate. We're just
talking about soundtracks. No matter what, if it's on the soundtrack,
it's in. Nobody is beating Will You winning that debate.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
But I'm telling you why it is because Will Smith
is who he is. Like, we grew up with him
as a rapping TV show person.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
He's rapped clean thing.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
He literally is will Like, he literally who.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Will Smith is.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
So y'all think the only reason that those songs win
is because it's Will Smith.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Will Smith is part of the whole masche in of
the movie and everything.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Okay, but okay, so what about all the other rappers
that are bigger, that are big the.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Biggest in the clean family environment, Like there ain't nobody
that you could say who did a clean family movie?
Like did a family movie song that was clean? Like
Will Smith?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Because because what I'm.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Saying ir relevant if he has no listen question, let
me finished.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I didn't even I didn't finished.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
He asked me question.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Let me answer his question before you start integrating some
other ship.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Then I got to interest you.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
All right, So to your question, just because somebody didn't
do it, doesn't that.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, that's the case. Then I could be like, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well Ship were the best podcast in geek history because
we did all the ship first.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Just because somebody else.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Didn't do it and Will Smith genre doesn't mean that
we got to put over Well, nobody else did it.
So you know, that's why conversation eliminating all that.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
The main factor is if it's on the soundtrack, it's
for contention. No other shit is what everybody else has
the same ability to be. If you are a rapper
and you could be in movies. You have the ability
to put out a soundtrack song.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
If you're a rapper and an actor, you have the
ability to be in a family movie. Just because you
didn't do it don't mean that it evalidates Will Smith's.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Claim to be out of there. So then why are
we even bringing it up to me?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Because because you're because you're trying to compare. You're trying
to say, like I said, I didn't disagree with you
that he probably the best. But I'm telling you why.
But that's a relevant it's not irrelevant. Who is within
you tell me what Smith is gonna tell you, like, oh,
I'm actually this cuss stas drug dealing, as rapper, he
knows no clean.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
In the debate of who makes the best soundtrack records,
we'll still gonna be like, well, you know, it's probably
me because you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Also because rapper.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
No, it's just like he made a better song than
anybody else in the genre who has tried to do it.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
So because the way I look at it, right, Will
Smith has the opportunity. He knows the script right, He's
in the movie already in his mind, he's probably thinking
how can I capitalize on this even more?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Right?

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Oh, I like rapping. I can make a song to this.
I'm gonna make a draft to this. Whether or not
it goes platinum or goals number one. That's besides the point.
That's just who he is. I'm gonna make a song
to this because I can. Right, I don't think we're
getting that from a lot of other rappers that's really
thinking it in that aspect, and.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I agree, But that doesn't mean that it doesn't change.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's that's why I said it's a relevant factor in it,
because then that's the case. You could be like, all right,
Jordan is the best of the best basketball player. But
then it was like, oh, but you know what I'm saying.
My nigga got seen on the block. He better, but
he just you know, he ended up being in prison,
but he better than Jordan's.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's like, can't.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You don't nobody brings that up and any other best
I never bring up the top and say, oh, but
you know what, because it's.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who he I think, and the other person didn't do
it as a relevant.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
In just in just a hip hop conversation. I think
that you lose the point that people throughout all of years,
have always still gave Will Smith's prospers, even if any
hip hop has said Will Smith is in his own
fucking lane though, Like he's his own fucking lane, like
he's a great rap artist. He's been successful in his
life in his own lane, no matter if anyone else
tried to do it or whatever. He created his lane

(20:25):
and he lives very well off of it, which is
why now when he's trying to be another nigga, we like, bro,
what is this but his life that we all whether
people hated Will Smith because he was successful or life
because he's successful, is because the lane that he chose
made him very internationally love well respected, which made his

(20:45):
movies blockbuster hits, which would make his single of Them
Thing Dad and that black busters because he was a
well loved individual like him as a person in general.
So yes, white people in all of all kinds gonna
love Wild Wild West and Men. And because that's everybody
going to see this the international movie. Just like I said,
I get it. I can't say that's we Be Clubbing

(21:05):
as that because it was a black movie.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Listen, I'll listen to We Be Clubbing way more than
any Will Smith shuld because that's.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
More culturally relevant.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
But but but again it's to me, it's just like
when you talk about the top, are you talking about
who's number one? You don't have to put a caveat in.
That has nothing to do with the argument in general.
The main argument was if it's on the soundtrack, it's
in contention for who makes the better. Will Smith doesn't.
That's the main thing I said, because of sales. There
was no because it's Will Smith, He's in the movie. Like, no,

(21:34):
it's just strictly, so before we go.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
To anybody else because anything, are we strictly just it's Wisklee.
It's whisk leefood because it to you again that went
fourteen times that.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Number two, number number two, it's suicide squad. What is it?
The Lil Wayne track, Little Wayne Purple?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
And yeah, crazy you know this This is more that
what makes sense for thebate Instead.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's like, but I meanause, no one knows this. DIGG
is doing the research. You're trying to just guess.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
I was saying to say, how we got into the
debate was Deuter said Will Smith is probably the greatest
soundtrack rapper, and then.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Any strict in front the beginning, he said, based on sales.
So that's when I started, Okay, let me look, and
that's why I said that.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But I never I never really, I never.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I never gave anybody of like, I know this nigga
made more. So I just threw people I'm just giving
out sound tracks and was like, we're breaking it down.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You were doing that. I was looking.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Let me see what they saw.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, I didn expect a little Wayne. I forgot all
about I thought that was a rap song. I'tna hold you.
I don't know if it was purple and let me.
I forgot that was a rap song. But yeah, that
whiskeyper song definitely.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Damn the one with on Ninja Turtles album too, that
had Wig on it as well.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah, but that one on the new.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Joint Okay cartoon, I think it was on Off the Shadows.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Begetting only the one platinum that uh West would still.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Be onky but no. Yeah, see, I'm forgetting that's a
rap song just because what about the sentiment of it.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
And you know, man, a sucker for Pain would be
up there, but that's you know, sucker for Paying.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's the U Suicide Squad to that's on the.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
First Sicide Squad Waene matching dragons and then tied out
the sign do the hook.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, but you know Whiskey Lea for got him? Yeah,
ain't so damn so it goes Will Smith.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean Whiskey from got the one song.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Will have multiple multiple.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
You got to I mean you just name twice.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Uh yeah, you said one song there in fourteen though. Yeah,
that's what he's two doubles again that.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
See that, And I mean that was what that was.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
That was the last.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right from that was the song.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I mean I forgot, like I said, I wouldn't have again,
this could have went a lot faster digits, Like, bro,
everybody quiet looking at it.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
I'm looking at I was looking at him talking. That's
that's why I was out of the conversation. But when
I started hearing, like because when he said sales, I
do agree with us. Once he set sales, I do agree.
All everything else is out of the window because Celles
is going to be sales is going.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
To be sales.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Whatever your reach is, a song is a song is
a song, right like it's even if it only hits
if it hits urban radio, if it hits pop radio.
Once the song gets popular enough, we know white people
are going to latch onto it. So I do agree
that whether it was a family film or not, eventually
songs get out of zite guys, like songs getting to

(24:54):
the ether where everybody is going to hear whe whatever
movie it came from.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You might just forget whatever movie it was on.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
So once he got to that point, I'm like, I
don't care about anything else y'all talking. Let me look
at the numbers as y'all drop outns because I wouldn't
though about Wiskley I forgot.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Otherwise I would I wouldn't even said this statement.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It was.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It was when I started looking at the Fast and Future.
I told you I thought I thought that song and
he a Puerto Rican rapper. So it's like, maybe you're
only talk in America.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (25:23):
That was five million? So like, well, let me see
what other tracks because I know those times. I know
those movies are very popular, so I know those soundtracks
are probably popular.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I mean I get that. I think I think even
for me, I know I put my lot, I put
my line of a lot of my fight against Wills
fifth because in your hot take is like, well, everything
that he's ever even disuscesful. He was in the movie too,
like like wisdom won in these movies, there's not rappers
in the movie and did something.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So that's that'd be the other thing where it was
like where I guess that would have been a clarifying question.
I would have asked, is okay, are we talking rapper
rapper actor where it's like you have to be in
the movie because then you it does take you down.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You're talking LLL again, that's why.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
But that's what But that's why those people were But
see those people, I was thinking what I'm saying, what
I said.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
That's why I made it clear trying that's the cheap
because I think he's not trying.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
To he did.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
The first thing was that the window shopper.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Trying. That's on the album, on the soundtrack, y everything.
But it was also a massacre. That's why.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, yeah, so that's why I'm like tracks ejoying me.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Lose yourself might be up there, think about lose yourself,
lose yourself.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I didn't think about lose yourself.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
And that's what I'm saying. So that was my like
even everybody's thinking comparing it's rappers.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
But see That's why I made it clear.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I was like, no, my whole debate is if it's
on the soundtrack, it's in contention against will.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Lose yourself definitely with thirteen times times. See. Then I said,
that's what I was looking for for the end of
the Bay.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
And that would have been a fight down because because
eminem was in the movie.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I would have.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I could. I would argue that.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
One man, you would have won that one, you know,
because that's what I was looking for.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
It goes into the is because not like it is
the one mega hit bigger than.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Multiple multiple hits.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Take Me three that charted right four.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Because two songs from a Latin charty oh ship. So
so that's where it's like, there's one mega hit outweigh
because I.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Think I think I.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Think it's more so with who you are as a person,
because I even think about that, you know what, I
would you want me?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Because he never has he got a song on I
think multiple.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Diamond wants is that?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Like, is that better than me going platinum five times?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'm gonna ask you one question. Is Vanilla Ice better
than J Coole?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
No?

Speaker 5 (27:55):
So that's why I'm like, that's where I would have said, consistency. Then, yeah,
that's what That's what I'm saying, which consistency. Oh you
started that's right. You started off saying you think to
make a hit. That's right, I said, I said, I said, Now.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I agree, I believe.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I still believe in the megahead because I believe. So
you think you any longer with.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
It, I don't know if you are, because you got
to worry about that one track.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You think I still eating off of ice ice. Maybe
he's still performing.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
He's not, because all that money is going to whoever
is but somebody, you know, I mean, it's still money
still get generated off of it. Like that's true that
you think that.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
That's making more than all of those J cole charton hits.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, because where are they using it? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's all talking about bro is used as
skate rings and all the other ship. If you that's
that was my point. I was trying to make that clear.
That's why I wasn't trying to cut you off. But
I'm saying, Will Smith ship is used in middle schools,
elementary schools all over the world.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Bro. So that's that's the case.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
But then you're making you're making the point that I
was trying to say, because that means, yeah, well, that
means it is better to be consistent because all those
will Smith's versus versus lose yourself or see you again,
so no.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
One perspective.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Lose yourself or see you again could be used globally
as well. That's what I'm saying, is where they're using it,
so you're consistent. I would rather have the mega hit
because the mega hit will be used over and over again,
rebranded tops from somewhere it's a movie to be gone
and then yeah, it went platinum once and now nobody's

(29:38):
using it.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
There's no royalties behind it. Like that's the whole thing
with bad Boy.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Bad Boy was great for a long while and people
was trying to use their sound, and after a while
I died. And now that's why it was like before
did he went into this whole thing? He gave back
all the masters. Yeah, because he can't use it.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
So I think it's again it does lean on personally
when you feel because because I agree with you one hundre. However,
me personally, I would rather want multiple and I think.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
It's more a person I think.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
But I was like, because it's like I said, as
an artist, Like even as an artist, I wouldn't want.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Just one mega hit. I would not be satisfied with it.
I said, it's more personal person.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Not even I think even because just because I have
that one making hit, sure it can be used everywhere.
That's not That's not to say all of these others,
like like if we're using an example that.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Do said Jacob Renilla Ice.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Just because of Vanilla Ice, Heights Baby can be used
a lot of places. It's not to say a lot
of J Cole hits can't be using multiple places too.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
But to this argument is defense and what kind of
Carty said, you're not you win?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You was a minute.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Even in the debate of even debate now was like
all his hits are specifically for that movie, like all
these other people who really went higher than him made
a song for the sound Wait a minute, all right,
I got, I got, I got.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I think it's gonna do its gonna change the outcome?
Where did Miami chart?

Speaker 5 (31:04):
I don't think that's a soundtrack song that was really
style that.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I put it with many Black two, but it wasn't
even in Miami and Man in black Wood that was three.
I thought she was gonna say you put it with
a bad boys bad boys too, But.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
No, that's what that's that would be my Okay, that's
what I said. That's what I said. For me, I
would want to make a hit because you couldn't. Like
I said, there is no scenarios to hear men in
black play Wi wild West plays.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Men in black themes something when he had a club
and yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
He had a c Yeah, we was doing the fool.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Now I'm telling you, I'm telling you we we three
four videos away from Will showing up with a pool
shisty like.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
He's going through.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I need I need to put a gorilla.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
He going through a whole midnight. I need to see that.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I don't but I want to see it. I want
to I want to see him take it there, taking
it all.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
The way come back. Yeah, I like pretty girls. That
before it would need the free style.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I heard I like pretty girls and I was like,
you know, not go ahead.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
The freestyle, go ahead and the second freestyle and he
said something that he dropped the bar like don't like,
don't be speaking on my name because you know, I
get a little bit slappy.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
And it was like, oh yeah, I saw somebody tweet
about that, and I'm not real firing like all right.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Girls, girls actually go actually slapped on like a speed
get up up like they they've been playing that ship
off of uh no kid, that ship called, like, don't
give me that ship called?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
All right? I was just like, what we doing?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, I was terrible the video every day.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Y'all here cutting his wraps and still records. Man, he
said what I said, Will is definitely out here.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Cut you need surprise Eminem man, like, listen, as much
as I'm tired of Eminem now would have been the
per every time for Eminem and they be like, bro,
drop it again, drop another this boat because as much
as I get old, I'm like I said, I'm tired
of m andem Like I'm not a fan of his
right now, I would listen to his Will Smith this
because Will definitely don't.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Need to be this though I need him.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
He can crash. I want him to crash. You you
made a complete one.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
You made a complete one all.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Now now now Will Wild now listen, I gotta call.

Speaker 10 (33:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Will Stiff needs to be stopped. And like I said,
I don't know what timeline we you know.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I still don't want to hear him.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I want to hear neither of them old ass niggas.
I want to hear you know what I want to hear.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I want to hear you all invest in something else
and just stop it, bro, Because what up with Freeway?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I want this Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Kim Kim Meek Freeway on the album and single what
the what the call?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
That?

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Shaid Philly Boys, I said talk, I need it, I
needed it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Canna be our last podcast? I need it. We are
retiring early.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
I left at the time that came back to the
wrong dimension this nigga. This is not six one six.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I don't know. I never heard.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I ain't never heard to say early, Bro, he said early.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know what that has makes more sense?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Now makes more sense. What would better?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Eminem Will Smith or continuation of the UK versus USB.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Oh my god, I don't even know how we got there,
but you know what we got here?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
We ain't no no, yo boy just about to say
that your name this day.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
He just been he think you've had a fuel to
the fire.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
He was coed. Nobody listened to nobody by skept. The
skept is also for Cardi Boy.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah yeah, because you Trip.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think it's the trip Trip.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is the only one that really be like really rocking
with the UK rap like that. I mean, like you.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Some UK rap what to be fair that the UK
rap bro is not for us, It's for a special
ear you gotta like.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
So this is the timeline when I'm listening to U
k Rap, I'm British in that moment.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I mean, you gotta be in that energy.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So the time after the Joey Badass and what's the
name Beef and everything like that, Skeptic just random dudes
like yo, I want to rap to U k Rapp
pretty much uk rappers got something to say and then
nobody took it serious. And then so then Skepta did
another video and then he started actually naming people and
then he said nigga and he said you Lucas.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Said, he said like that, and he called him what
did he call him?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
A dumb ass? I'm breaking, he said, I wanted I saw.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
You know, niggas and niggas gonna put it on there.
I won't let me give it a listen already don't
like UK Rap, I don't care, hold you. All of
it is trash, all of it.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, all the nasty work.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
That's a lie.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
I listened to it and, like I said, at one
point he caught him like he caught.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Him like rubbish, and I was I wanted to throw
my head.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Just doesn't like me.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I listened to Japan Spanish.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Out of the whole world, the UK has the worst
slang ever heard in my entire bro niggas, blokes, blokes
blow and we can't say what they call cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Still it's crazy, but I just it ain't even.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
It ain't even the slang because like I watched you
K shows and stuff, like, you know, you gotta deal
with these.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Champion or super.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Slang over them, and I'm just like, that's not good.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
You like the ds either.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
The beats be cool, they be cool, but it's just
like that would be sounding on beat.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I'm a bit, I'm a basic.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You gotta sound you sound like you own beat. I'm
already halfway out. If you I feel you, I feel you.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
But the way I look at hip hop and I
look at rappers art, there are different pockets in the
beat that you could be in. And just because it
doesn't sound right to us does not mean that it
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
They don't sound like they any of those they do
a different kinds they're doing.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
They're doing two wars because of that, doing two voars
instead of one, two instead of one, giving them the
benefit of these.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
So you know what, you don't know what I equated to,
you know how like like Eminem, how he raps now yeah,
right and all that fast. I hate it, right, yeah,
I hate it right. And so when people like joke
on Eminem, you know what I'm saying, like they like
they you know, they're like you do needing.

Speaker 10 (38:25):
Too many naps, like how people joke on them, and
like the mean sounds just like that when people joke
on U k rapping the rock and I got with
the slops.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And like it sounds like gallops.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
It sounds like if it sounds if if your style
sounds too much like the meme, I'm like, I can't
rock with it because now it's it's so easy mimicable,
you know, like they say Deon like is easy to draw,
because like if you are easy to if I could
just make up a UK rap just like that and
it sounds like like you put a nice meat on
it might slap.

Speaker 7 (38:55):
The same thing with the big Sean punch lines.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
When he started doing but you see yourself fast, it
got it, got, it got tired. Yeah, but I came out.
People were like, all right, we're going it's a little
bit too much.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
But the thing is they still use that Ben Rock
was a terrible so use that flow.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's just not as listen to it.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Listen to it again, terrible bad lyrically.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Lyrically they were skating on it. But lyrically it was
a group.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
It was a it was a possy cut.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
But I ain't gonna hold wild pass cut. I ain't
gonna hold you. I think I'm trying to let me
sneak what you trying to think some bars? No, I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Wayne Wayne drinking Nicki Minaj only got like decent verses.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
At the time, was supposed to be you know, right
right around they level.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
It's right, they probably done that down. No, no, no, you
write too much. You're writing too much.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Like but even even their verse wasn't like what you
know was out from them around that time. It's like
for y'all came to did this, y'all definitely played down
to the level that y'all was around.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
I mean, I could see that, but I think it
was the time to a very simple so that.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
This was that party club music.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
But even the other songs that they put out in
that era, they had like they had stuff that is
still laugh to test the time.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
You knowing the dream right now, but the dream is
still gonna go. It's literally like that.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
I'm not even talking about it, like I'll give what
y'all saying, but I'm you're talking about from that album
or the artists from.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
The from the artist artists around that time, well, none
of the other niggas, none of the other things. Young
Money was trash outside of Wain Drake.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Gotta Go It.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
We talked about this before. That's different times.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
He saw Gotta Go at his prime based on the
high school in college, So you know, I.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Mean, but that's but no, but that's how I feel like,
I mean, krap I don't like about k rappers. Every
UK rapper sounds like the same UK rapper.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's what I don't.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Like, Like like the Cadens in the drill like because
that's like the actual music is like everybody sounds like.
So even if you pick like a like skeptic, you
can hear somebody.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
To be like I just got It's like you should
focused on sinking because they singers are great.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
The R and B music come out of you can't great.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
But I mean, but I feel like because I can't
think of them right now, I know a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Of them, A lot of them.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
I feel like Georgie Smith, she's hurt her. Yeah, a
lot of his female even who was in Family was
in Game of Thrones, gray Worm, he had an album,
he had Ship in a Wild but his album, he s,
it's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
You can do you know.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
R and B?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Are he doing R and B? Like definitely?

Speaker 6 (41:58):
He's short, skinny, he got the cut, but that's say
as a vampire.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, you can't see him as an R and B.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Everybody he looked like what.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I said, I think his last was his last album
because he got you know, the vampire.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Sole Mississa right Bro?

Speaker 6 (42:16):
He was he was, he was waiting like, hey can
you probably got a soundtrack song on Game with.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
The Middle sound him out last year. I got to
hit listen to.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
The subject ballet, bro, what is that they can do?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Singing?

Speaker 4 (42:31):
We rap? I mean, I'm actually like I'm not saying
I'm a huge fan. I like I like to I
actually enjoyed the u k K.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Everybody I know in life you listen to it the most.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
I don't trip. Probably I have like I have like
like only like the only thing in your playlist multiple
times I came in here in the studio, you got
it playing. Oh, I mean, if you listen to play
list now, definitely.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Everybody that I know personally that I actually.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
The only songs I probably had from the UK is
a song that twenty one times. You got a boy.
That's what he's like.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Very much, that nigga from the meme where he takes So.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Though I didn't listen to nothing like I'm listening, I've
never heard the u K nigga.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
This is the UK niggas.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
So I'm like, y'all this niggas.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Like I didn't even know what he says.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
He I heard a little bit, I heard a little
bit of jointing lucas and beat would sound like I
couldn't even get through that.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I'm like, you know what these.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Nigga he said, you that little boys and whose.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I said, what is going on from?

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I don't want to I don't want to hear no
beat from them. I'm good on all that and I
don't want to hear joining Lucas like, Bro, the niggas
who even from the US, who try to be all
the cares, that's what made.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
This.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
They did it.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
So Will Smith like, why do you like? You know,
I just listened to joint of Lucas album. His ship
sounded like you know, like when they make the black
character do rapping like w shown, bro, that's how his
album signed.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah, he here rapping like from what it is?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know why he rapped?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Jordan Lucas again is one of the he's a rapper rapper.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
If you was like, do you understand.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
The technicalities of rap that the ship that Mickey Fast
were breaking down, Jodan Lucas rapped on all of that.
Jodan Lucas does all of that. So that's why I'm
like the one that's the wrong person you want to
battle rap?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
He was Jordan Lucas, You a bastard? This you call
me a bastard?

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Fuck you.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I don't need to I need to respond to this,
like all right, so waiting whatd' rather?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Eminem and new Eminem Wills the UK.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah, I mean I take Eminem and Will battling because
at that point Will's gotta give me too, Sisty Will.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
If you come up with Eminem that I need to
Sisty Will, I take Will take an m Will battle.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Yeah, Alam can rap how you're rapping now?

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I wouldn't even care.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
I would be so disgusted. But at least both of
those being on B.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Both would be O B. Yeah, said Georgia.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
He don't like I think.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
I think personally, when I really think about this subject,
which I was trying not to think about this stuff,
that I feel like I would take a US versus
UK because we might get some great ship out of
some like somebody, somebody shot to shut it the fun down,
like the lots on. Somebody might be like, you know what,
we've been waiting on y'all alone time, and I might

(45:35):
hear some greatness because I don't have to hear the
UK ship.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
If it was Eminem and will Will, I would have to.
You gotta invest hate, you know, to hate on it,
So you got.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
To invest in both. But I mean, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't care about what a US rappers in the UK
rapp like. But what are you even talking about?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
The culture? What are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
You don't know them niggas, Like what do you mean,
Like they Finnah call him a bastard and say say something, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Bloat.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
I don't need that kind of beef, like I said,
Like I said, I I don't need to hear them
this nobody uk uk and they all little lane.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Like I said, I listen.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
I listened to japan rapp and that should be going
hard and I don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
The song man god well oh boy from Japan.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, no, I mean that's a chick dog I heard,
but I'm like, it's like the name some ship is crazy.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
I remember that, Yeah, I remember. They're closer to our
culture like them niggas.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
Most of the rest of the world is closer to
black African American culture because even Indians, and like.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That's going on right now with the with the little
boy bro that he just swelling or bro, that's bro.
That's that's just.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
So.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
We did get some trailers. Man, I want to talk
about some of these trailers that we got. We got
straighter thanks trailer. Did y'all watch it?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
You see the art five?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Somebody said we distributed, so somebody I gotta I got
a response that's going viral.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Off of it right on Twitter. Twitter, show you some
titty stands, bro. That's that's why I tried to open up.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Somebody did the artwork and they put you know, they
spelled stranger things out and uh five, what's the first
thing you notice?

Speaker 4 (47:31):
I really hate us, you know what I'm saying. I
really we look for prods everything you got.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Somebody retweeted.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
The memo, but I was like, I was like, no,
we don't need that logo, that one, that one, that one.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
But I didn't. How did you like the trailer? Start
niggas is crazy? The trailer was cool? Did you see
these purported time? Yeah? Like the trailer I was, I was.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Like, okay, I'm rocking with this. But then right underneath it,
somebody was like eighties the purported times. I was, I know,
you're not gonna try to have.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Me go this my holidays.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, you take me through Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years,
like stay in the house. We need you in the
house this year. So the trailer over, Yeah, I mean
I'm excited because you know it was long. How it
is united shiging no more? Were you ever excited?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
I was super excited. It's taking too long.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
I'm gonna obviously watch when it comes out, but it's
just like.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
I mean, I'm I'm extremely excited, Like I'm glad. I'm
glad the final season because it hasn't be taken too long. Yeah,
so I'm glad to I'm excited to be like it's
gonna be done with and I'm saying, I just don't,
like I said, I don't have the time drops like bro,
just get it over with, Like, just give us the
whole season to be done with it.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I do want to see how it's all, how everything's
going to end, because I'm I really I'm like, where
do we go where?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Like you know what I'm saying, how do we end this?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Because last season I thought was going to be like
the finale and yeah, and then the motherfucker cracked up
in the world.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
And then last the last they split that one kind
of they did like the first so much on the.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Split, man, can we talk about the trailer? Just talking
about the last year too?

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Last season about the trailer, but you was mentioned last
season that's just last seon because I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Like I said, trying to figure out how it's gonna
end because as we see in the trailer like that
now they got the fucking portal doors open. They actually
got like a military site for the and the world
is all fucked up. So I'm just like, I really
want to see how this is what it.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Seems bigger, Like they're going bigger and better, but like
three hours for one of the episodes is a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Crazy Tripper king, how y'all feel about trailer?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I mean, I mean, I'm excited.

Speaker 7 (49:46):
I do feel like it's been a long time, but
a lot has happened to in Hollywood with the last
year and a half. Truth like to for the delay
to be the way it is, like it is what
it is, it happens or whatever, but like fucking them,
they're averaging two hours of episode.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Bro, Like, yeah, I feel like it's gonna be one
of those weird things, Like you think at the end
of the day, they're only doing this because they're on
Netflix and they know they could, like they can't.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Do this like this to generate people to get in.
Even if you don't watch it all, you're gonna put
it a little bit on watch an hour day whatever, whatever.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
But I feel like they maybe had to do this
also too, because they wasted so much time in the
middle with the writers' strike and all that that they
cannot afford to be like let's keep stretching it out.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
They probably just shot it all and was like, we're
just gonna cut it up.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, like I said, if you if you split each other,
then it's just what it turns from eight what was
its eight episodes, right, six sixth episode to a twelve
episode run.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Which I mean, ain't the worst thing at your final season? Not?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, like I said, I feel like it's the same
thing how we saw Ironheart, where I feel like it's
gonna be like how they put the movie together. It's
gonna be like this could have probably just been cut
or this. You say, yeah, it's gonna be that weird thing,
and I do agree with that. I feel like maybe
in that sense, like even we think about how I
heard was made, so much ship was already shot, where like,
let's just get the good, let's get let's get the
first set, you know, the first thing that we feel like.

(51:12):
I feel like the first half that we're probably gonna
watch is probably before the writers strike. So I heard
I heard her really dope, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Actually, yeah, you think they did?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
They actually did they do? Did they ever say they
didn't reshoots or anything?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I'm about to go, look now, I think I don't
think they started shooting started. I heard a really dope theory.
So obviously none of us play D and D.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Right, So you know, Vecna is a character in D
and D like for Real and everything like that, and
he has his agents of Vecna and ship like that.
There's there's there's a theory going around that, especially with
Old Boy blaming uh Johnny Storm now that even though
he's dead, we didn't see his death as far as

(51:54):
like his funeral, like said on his on screen, and
so they're saying that there's always agents of Vecna. With
his popularity also so close with the Marvel, that he
might come back as an agent of Vecna and show
back up. Because there was a moment where I think
it was like a shadowy figure on the trailer. Everybody
was like, yeah, that's Vecna, but everybody was like, but
what if it's not right? So they're saying that what

(52:16):
if it's that age because I said, we're seeing the
Demie dogs, we're seeing the Demi bats.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
So I think I think it wouldn't it would be
wrong to not see a new person, new something like
everything that every creature we saw seeing in all us.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
You're saying the start someone listened to January last year.
Production didn't start until January, so that's right.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
After so okay, son, I mean then they just how
they want to package it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So yeah, So I saw that that was one of
the things that I'm interested in. I'm like, I'm like, man,
I really got to get more into this d n
D because, like I said, hearing people is breaking down
and everything.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
What I definitely do want to I do want to play,
like I want to try it out. We got to
find somebody who is like a dungeon master, because I
think you need to know.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
You know that that's not in Mayfair. It's a game
place right by game game. Yes, its right by Cheesteakes factory, right.
So I walked right a whole bunch of DND people
in there. So of course I did the black thing
like we always do. I'm like, hey, what's going on.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
So I'm sitting there, they teaching me. I'm sitting there.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I don't remember ship, but I was like, I was
having a great time watching them, like they was into
it and like it's like the dungeon Master like said,
it's really fit for the geek said we could definitely
do this because the dungeon Master that Nigga was all
in it, like he was like all right, he was
like okay, now your person And I was like, you
did storytelling inspire bro.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
I was with you the storyteller, like I would. I
would definitely, like I said when I saw that real
what's the name from DAREDVILM do it?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:41):
It was like and it's like, you're really just telling
the stories. So even if you the dungeon master, you
are you used to wone crazy story and the other
players are asking the question or what I'm you know
what I'm saying. If I tell you walking into a
dark forest and you're like, well what do I do here?
Well He's like, well you hear something in the distance
and you rolling the back to see how good you
can hear what it is? You know what I'm saying,
and shit like that, So that's all it really is.
And do I have or whatever you I'm saying? You

(54:01):
rolling the dice, you was saying, so like I feel
like I feel like in that space once you make
your care like I would. I would love to actually
be the dungeon master. It's actually be the storyteller. And
it's like, you know, just tell what everybody pick, what
they're gonna do whatever, because you can do it in
any scenario. We could literally do a Geeks said.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Zombie your Pocalypsey. Yeah, yeah, we gotta. We got link
with somebody man more. The combat trailer came out. Did
y'all watch that?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah? I feeling about it.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
I'm happy with it.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm happy with it too.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
I think it's gonna be an amazing adjustment. From all
the critics, it just fans. We had something to say
about the last main character. Yeah cool, yeah, coold.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Because I heard I didn't see.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
It, got me really excited. Look I hold you. I was.
I was like, Okay, the trailer cool because the trailer
trailer cool. But I knew.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
I knew he was a main character and I heard
a rumor that he might be dying within the first
fifteen I was like, okay, we might we might.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Not like the character. He was terrible.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Was on it.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We talked about this on the want to know.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
His story with history was terrible. That if they would
have if they would have brought him in. If they
brought him to be, it would have made with it
because because that is allure in a sense. But they
made him a brand new and I feel like even
with this trailer, who he is, who he was in
the first movie is what they did was doing with
Johnny Cage in the second movie, like they just using

(55:35):
an actual start, like an actual person. But they try
to do this originally with some cold and it didn't
make sense because there's no game like that, Like there's
no game where you I'm ever created player and I'm
just in your story, Like why would you just ask
somebody that's not in none of the game.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
If they would have, they would have introduced him in
a game like you, like you said, you could have
got some like more about it, we out been found it.
Just it felt like a random insert just to get
Lewis ten. And it's like you could have made him
in any other character just like I granted he is
obviously he's a phenomenal actor, but it's like they wrote
this specifically, like you could have made him anybody else.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
And he's just not needed to the story.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
So, like I said, even seeing the second trailer, I'm like,
this is cool. He shows up in the trailer, he's
very quick.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
It's not like he's not deep into the trailer.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
Because I was looking, I said a silent so y'all
don't think the because because I feel that the arguments
are like I've had this conversation with people in the
shop a million times.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Well my argument is always the saying where.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
At the end of the day, they had to implement
the mm A like her style, they added a style.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
There's somehow and there's no m m A person in
Mortal Kombat at the time because they didn't make one. Well,
it was.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Striker, but Striker is more he got. So that's why
I'm like, they couldn't put him in because no one
would want to have seen him.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I mean, like I think they made you could have
made you could have made Jacks like.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
The movie.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
But what I'm saying, you could have made his style
more because that's not his you know it's not. But
he's a brawler and he uses his arm cannon.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
So that's that's why I was thinking, like it wasn't
I'm not saying that they did it for the video
game accuracy.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I was saying they did it for fandom, like for.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
You know, the people that they're marketing to, they knew
UFC is big, so we can't just keep going karate
and boxing and we have to we gotta implement. We
have to implement it because it's bigger than every other sports.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I mean, I think that's what I said. I think
that's really that. That would still be the same reason
why it didn't because there's so many styles in Mortal
Koma at the game that is, like, you don't have
a grappler like that that could be in Mortal Combat
that you make a character as this grappler character or whatever.
And they've made so even after this movie, they've made
Mortal come like we can add a new and y'all,
y'all ain't touch m m A in the games.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It ain't no grappling thing.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
That's that's why it's weird too, Like they needed to,
Like I get what you're saying, like this, the studio
might have pressured them from that, but I even still
I wish somebody would have pushed back and be like,
we didn't need to.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I agreed that they could have added him in the
second movie.

Speaker 6 (58:14):
Well even I made an option in the game right
as a marketing like to me, if I was the
person running that department, hold off, let's let's make a scorpion.
Let's make a a newer scorpion be the main character,
and then the spirit of the old scorpion can empower him.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
And that's what we thought.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
That was right, right too, definitely, But I also looked
at it from this standpoint of this is the only
way we can.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Shuffle this guy in here, and it kind of makes sense.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
And it was just I feel like, I feel like
what they missed him on because that's for the first
movie it drafted. It wasn't like the middle of the
movie that you like, this nigga not connected the scorpions,
like like he was getting rided by sulf he all
them and it's like coming from the ground plenty of But.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
I just got one little pushback because all right, is
grappling that important for a Mortal Kombat movie.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Like no, to king point that I can, I can
one percent see the studio studio, but.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
You're get it from a Mortal Kombat fan perspective. But
where I'm saying, I'm looking at it from a from
like not even a filmmaker's perspective, from the company perspective.
They like, look, we can't alienate all these UFC guys
and grappler wrestlers and all that because there are got cabal.
He's similar with the throws and all that. Ship Like,

(59:40):
you could have made certain people become that character, but
it would have been argumentatively.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Stupid because they're not. But that's why I mixed martial arts.
I want to explain. I want to explain my agreements.

Speaker 6 (59:55):
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's why I think
they gave him that backstory so that we would be like, oh,
this is exactly what you are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So the reason for my disagreement of that, because so I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Understand what a disagreeing I understood what you're the I
agree with you that, like the you can't alienate those
people in regards to that. However, again I agree with you,
and you said, I'm coming from a Mortal Kombats fan standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
When I think of Mortal Kombat, even the game, the
properties and everything like that, I'm looking for two or
three things. I'm looking for fatalities. I'm looking for accuracy
and co and like costumes and everything like that, and
then I'm looking for the gore of the feel of it,
the hand and end combat like the actual fight, before
the actual moment, that could be up and down for me.

(01:00:42):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Even in the classic ones that I watch, it's not like,
oh that was a dope ass like they was handled.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I'm not looking at a special movie, Jackie Chan. Yeah,
I'm looking for the special move. I'm looking up when
did they use to get over here? When did he
do the freeze? Did he do them things like you
know what I'm saying, so in this property.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
And I think that's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
That's where the I think the hand in hand does
make it, because if you just come out here out
of know where all the time, you get over here,
get over here and like or you see fireballs, that's
not as interesting as you you seeing it in the
course of a fight like it works in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yes, I'm for a movie. You definitely got to have
the fight right right. I agree I'm saying, and I'm
not for the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
My argument, Yeah, the way I disagree with you is
only the fact that you can't put any old character
against any old character. It can be entertaining. So for
a movie, I also feel like I couldn't wait to
see like Luke King versus the Shang Song because of
their fights. Yeah, or I couldn't wait to see uh

(01:01:51):
Scorpion and sub Zero because but that's also because the setup.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
For their move makes it that much better. They elaborate
what I mean when I say like, I'm not looking
for a wardhand. I said, I'm not looking for oh
ship that was an mm A style type of move
versus a restler move. I'm not looking for oh that
was a boxing combo move. That's it I am.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
It is the setup, it is the I want to
see whatever and then how they move it in. But
I'm not being that technical. It has to be an MMA,
it has to be a boxing style. It has to
be like you know what I'm saying. So for me,
and that's why I said the reason why I didn't
like Cale because I agree with you, it definitely felt
like studio interference, studios pushing this mm A storyline and
everything like that, and I was like, it's just not

(01:02:31):
needed in Mortal Kombat to be I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
What it was. And that's what I said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
For me, it is that it's like to me, it
was a it was a resident evil treatment, like we
didn't need Mila in resident Evil, like that the completely
changed the whole fucking story. You know what I'm saying,
It's like who this person is to be looking through
the eyes of yeah, like like you're gonna still give
me clear and Chris naughty motherfucker, but I got some
random nigga that I gotta follow this story that it
ain't got nothing to do with nothing like the movie

(01:02:57):
ship though, That's what I'm saying. So it's like, that's
what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I get why.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Like that that was for me why I didn't like it,
because it was like I get what they were trying
to do and even trying to add that new person
in there, but I felt in the Lord and just
how it like how mort Kind is set up, he
was too new to be a brand new like I'm
the main character, you know what I'm saying. If you
would have been like you said, if they just kill

(01:03:22):
kept him in two but he was training underrated in
all them and one and maybe had a fight here
and there, but you're not the nigga like the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Main It Also, it completely took out Luking, like yeah,
and that's what we were your back up character when
he is the character.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
For your entire franchise.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
I think they I think they did that because they
had a week Lukan and they didn't have an actor
who could carry.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
You could have you could have kid, you could have
been I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
I don't, Okay, I don't think so I'm gonna be
real with you. I feel you, but it ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
He ain't. He's not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
You know what I'm saying. I want to, but it's
it's just he don't. Again, that's one of those ones
I would have. I gotta see it because I don't
see him as my Luke King.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
How do y'all feel about what's the name being? Johnny Cage?

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Though that's a good segue. My transition was like one
thing that we was waiting on is that we all
said when we when they announced it was Butcher's Johnny Cage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
How are y'all feeling about Butchers Johnny Cage. I'm gonna
go first.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
I'm gonna say I was I was cool with so
I saw him get the splits in the air and
I was just kind of like, so, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Not cool with it until I saw the splits in
the air.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Did you Because Johnny Cage in my in every iteration
that I enjoyed Johnny Cage in is that he's pulling
himself and a lot of the things that he does
even though he's afficient and everything like that, it starts
to it gets goofy, right. So I was and I
was like, I don't want them to make this Johnny
cage too cool because I was like, when I look

(01:04:56):
at Butcher, he's the he's the hard, hardened guy, everything easy.
I was like, Butcher seems way too cool to be
a Johnny Kane. He doesn't seem like a Hollywood playboy
star who's full of himself.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And you know, he was an engineer on Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
He was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
It's most memorable. I'm only signed now, Like I'm just
saying when they when they announced it, when they announced
I mean, you ain't have to respect that. When they
announced that, that was my intention of this. That was
my contention of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
But then, like I said, so I'm looking, I'm like, man,
this Johnny k is cool as ship Like he's kind
of seem like even though he's they're trying to make
him the loser.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Ever, I didn't get I didn't get that at the
beginning of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Then when it's like when they started giving him, hearing
his dialogue and more, I was like, Okay, now this
is Johnny.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Ca ha always been a washed up actor. What I
was saying is the trailer at the beginning of it,
it didn't feel like that to me. I didn't. I
didn't believe it until I started hearing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
The dialogue and and then once I once he did
the flip, and I was like, okay, yes, all right,
we're in the video game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
All right, I'm with it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
It's still not my favorite, Like it's whatever. This movie.
At best, it could probably get a seven for me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
So it's like seven, you already got it on the
scale already.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Seven, I think you can get it, so you can
lose from a second. Can look maybe seven and a half,
you got seven to lose. But I just I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I just can't never see that eight or nine at all.
What could be in there to give you eight or nine?

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
I think they already ruined it. But with Johnny No, no,
just just I don't. I wasn't super high on the
first one. He wasn't, so you know right now, you're
not like in the world that they're building. Yeah, it's
just like I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
I don't get what they're doing with Luke, but I
get it you were saying that they think it's a
weak lu King.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I actually think he's a really good actor.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
He was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Somebody.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
He's not a I don't think he's not the strongest Luking.
But I know when I'm saying strongest lu King, I'm
not saying his look isn't there. I'm saying his acting
ability wasn't. So that's what I mean by you couldn't
carry him. They couldn't carry a whole movie with his actor.
Like I feel like his character in general is are
very generic.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
But I wonder how much of that is because if
you can a backup character as.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
This, judging it off of we haven't had a good
more of combat movie yet, you can't just say luk
And is a stiff.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
I enjoyed the verse.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
I enjoyed the first one. Tot. I like both of them.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
But we're not gonna We're not gonna sit there like
the top notch movies.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
G Mortal ain't made to be a top notch movie.
We can get one, we just haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Got it yet, you know, because your cast is always
gonna be what's gonna be okay, my.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Thing to the movies. Let's be clear about this. What
y'all would be saying is a myth.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
You can never get a video game top notch movie
unless let me, unless it's c g I based, because
you're not gonna be able to match.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It's never gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
You can't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
That one to that again to my my thoughts. But
I can see your brain working about trying to trying
to debunk that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
But I just before, I just want to fish with
car like I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
He doesn't. He doesn't give me Johnny Cage like even
though like the lines and everything Johnny Cage to me,
he just sounds like fam from the Butcher Butcher, but
he just sound like the voice is still like like
Johnny Cage gave you the comedy like Ryan Reynolds would, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like he was a lot
more than it ain't a gruffy voice like the niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Not like k.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
He doesn't sound like Johnny Cage but his manners to me,
but I think he fits because he is that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Get trips.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
I want to get trips to know I'm saying he fits,
he fits the next like the thought process. I'm an actor.
I'm not I'm not in this action realm like I was.
Because he did do a lot of action movies, you
know what I'm saying, But now he's doing more, you know,
Butcher talking the action minimal will probably c gror whatever whatever.

(01:09:02):
So that's what I think the Johnny Cage element will
fit because he can say like, no, I'm gonna wash
up action guy. But now they're gonna teach you. That's
why I think it's gonna be. I think that's gonna
be the hitch. They're gonna think, like, oh, you know
all this karate ship, bro, we got all your movie.
Hes gonna be like, Nigga, that wasn't me, you know
what I'm saying, And that's not gonna have to like
but you're a champion, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That wasn't me. That that was I'm an actor, I
act like I know what I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
They do that because Johnny Cage actually was a artist,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Like, I think he's gonna be like a washed up
show him like, look, there's really a power in you.
Same with Cold col remember Cole wasn't a winning fighter.
He just fought for the money.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
I mean Johnny because I think Johnny k even in
the first Mortal Kombat he didn't do his I think
it was kind of the same thing, Like he found
that power in the tournament. He was artist.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
When that when that black dude died, that's when he
got serious.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Yeah, he's the other thing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
Bo makes a fair a good point. This is basically
the plot of the first movie all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
That's what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
It does feel like that because Johnny Cage was the
person they grabbed like he was the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Side of water story.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
This is the you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Now you're in a whole different roald of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Things that you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
They're gonna use Cole as I have no clue what
they scenario as many interactions, I don't know at the beginning,
and then that was the vision that got lu came
to come to the tournament. They might be what it
is where it's like Cole get beat the sleep in
the beginning, and then that's the catalyst for we need

(01:10:34):
another guy, and here we go get.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
This guy right. Here's a trip, all right. So I
like Keith car I said that too soon, I was
gonna say, y'all talking about the country. But here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
For me, right, My my favorite more combat characters were
Luke Johnny Cage, Okay, And the reason why I love
Johnny Cage was for the fact that he had.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
The he at the end turned off yours ours, our camera,
the light.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
The light went outside.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
I was curious, I don't see our screen up nowhere.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
Well, that's because he got it on the still.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, I thought was still shut.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
The always turns off in the light.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Okay, I thought that's all I was asking you, all right,
all right?

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
So for me, Johnny Cage is always He's given that
that that confidence level, even with him being washed up,
He's always going to be Johnny Cage. You're not going
to take that away from him. And I feel like
what they're giving us in the trailer is a pitiful
down on his lug. I ain't ship type of john.
This is not who Johnny k even at his lowerst

(01:11:42):
he was always a ship talker. He was always I'm
the coldest nigga in the room, no matter what. Right,
So I just I feel like we're not getting that
from this iteration of Johnny Cage. Because Johnny Cage was
still a top notch martial artist. Even as the action star.
He was still he still had the hands, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
He was like, he was like, that was all stunted to.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
I think he's going to be a like I know,
martial arts, and I don't think he's a practicing martial artist.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
He's not practicing like that's what That's what I said.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
I'm when I when I look at mark uh total
combat movies, I feel like what they do is they
can sell actual fighters or what a fighter will want
to see, because like Michael J. White said this in
an interview where he was like, you can't ask me
what it would be like for a Steven Seagal versus
you know, Chuck Norris or Bruce Lee because them two

(01:12:38):
were actual fighters, where Steve isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
He's an acting.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Martial artist who only knows certain ship, but he don't
know enough to fight with. Where like Jean Claum he
said he could he could mimic fighters, but he's never
fought a person in competition, so that's why he wouldn't
consider a fighter. Where I'm thinking they're gonna make it

(01:13:02):
where Bro was a fighter turned actor.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Now he's washed, you know, what I'm saying, what we're saying,
that's the only thing that we hear what you're saying.
What we're saying is because that's not normally what his
character is. We we're not going like that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
It kind of is because if you look at in
the game, he was a ship talker, but he was
always broke. He was it was always a gimmick or
a ploy to keep it going, and he only lived
off his past ship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
But it's but it's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Fighting always he was shap he was actually.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
And he typically didn't get serious until you broke his glasses.
And because.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
That's the difference of a fighter and a former fighter,
like a former fighter ain't gonna react the same way
because he's not in shape to fight you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
I'm saying of Johnny Cage's character that even if the video.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Game, I do feel like at some points he was
a former fighter and he had to be drugged back in.
Like if you if you look at the early Mortal Kombats,
the storyline was he wasn't the coldest until he got challenged,
and then when he finally got serious, that's when he
would do some ship but it would be like after
somebody else had to step in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
You know what I'm saying, Like he would never jump in.
He don't jump into the line of fire, like I said.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
That's the way that I took him the trailer that
he was kind of like I'm playing backseat to all
this ship unless y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Got a roll for me, and if it ain't a role,
I mean it did give me that like he gave
me the energy of like, bro, this ship ain't remember
he had that own real when rating deal, he like
what so like I do I do? And that's all
first Mortal Comic movie, Cage came in really into the
another realm was really like I like what y'all did
hear making like he really making everybody and it was like, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
A minute, that ship was real. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. So that's where it's like out again.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
It highest is the seven and a half because it's
just like we.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Just well what we just did this?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
But I mean that's the point though it's Mortal Kombat.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
You didn't say this for Superman, brod we did. We
didn't just we did Superman stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
No, but that Superman story wasn't in the lot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
And when I try to sequel, first off, to it also,
wasn't the Last Supermanking the Last Superman story.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
You don't think this is a sequel story.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
It's the same sets literally story that doesn't know about
the tournament, tournament, the tournament. That's what they say the plot. Yes,
I'm just saying that's what that's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Get the argument.

Speaker 6 (01:15:39):
I'm just saying with Mortal Kombat, that's Mortal Kombat. Always
hear me out, this is always a one person problem rating.
He gonna find somebody to help the team, who is
sometimes new when they make new characters, or it just
be a remade character like lu can't die.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
We're gonna bring them back, like they just do this
because which which is fair. But we also just did
that with Cold. Now it's all sud dude, we did
it years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:16:14):
Movie and we got we got, we got introduced to
the tournament at the end of that last movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Reintroduced the tournament again.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Yeah, but we just but I mean the first movie,
the first movie was the tournament, but it was introducing
it was introducing the world of world because Cold nothing
about all that. So he was like, that's when when
Raydon came and talked to him, he was telling him
about all of the stuff to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Fight, the tournament, all of that from the trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
They do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
The first trailer.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
But so even in my even in my like how
I that's why I kind of feel like we're gonna
get a lot of newer characters that wasn't in that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
We like, we're seeing we're a lot of cool and
we've seen the post we've seen the posters.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
The main thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
The main thing is this, And I think if they
would have just xed out the whole introducing a new
person to this world, because because this could be round
two of the tournament, sure, then let's pick up from
round two. We don't always have to have the let's
bring somebody in and they do the same jokes. I
ain't never heard of that, Like we don't the first one.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Because we went through all of that, we explained all
of that and what that movie ended. He said, I'm
gonna go find that's crazy. I'm gonna go find uh,
I'm gonna go find Johnny Cage.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
That's literally how that movie ended. I'm going Cole was
going off to find him?

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Was we are we are stuck in now we're basically
doing movie one beat because we're doing the set we're
doing the second chapter, but might not be that. Like
I feel like Johnny Cage is all I can do
is trailer. In the trailer so many times it's the
I think this is fake. I'm explaining the world to
It's like, bro, we just we just did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
But I mean it's not. That's not what they do
in Mortal. They don't. They don't go back.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
They don't go back, and every new character.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
One in a more kind of Annihilation, they didn't do it.
It was a continuation of the story. I'm saying, nobody
knew that wasn't already from with Annihilation. There was so
many new characters in there. There was a move. They
brought it. They brought him Jackson.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
They were already I think they were already investigating the realm, remember,
because but what you know was in that realm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So that's what I'm saying. You don't have to do
that in the first two movies. But Jack was. He
was in the second.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
But either way it goes, and they didn't. They didn't
tell you have to go, oh, this is fake. No,
I don't believe that Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Every every human being that came the Earth realm was
in another realm, like what the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
First he was like, what is going on? He said,
what is going on? He did not say that this
was fake. I didn't believe in his turn. So that's
what we're saying.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
But my point, I'm looking at y'all looking at the
first trailer and saying this wee get. I personally think
that's just the way they cut that trailer him.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
I think it's just also a short lived moment where
they're gonna be like, oh, yeah, this is this, and
then this is.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Gonna move forward because you can't just introduce a random
human bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
You can't because he's not he ain't never he ain't
never heard of it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
But if it's a nigga with the drug, like like
the nigga with the with the tattoo, it was easier
to make him well what is going on because it
was like, well, you got this tattoo, and the tattoo
is a signed to the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It was so stupid that they had to tell him.
That's why we're sick of it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
But I also understand when you go get a regular
Joe who knows nothing about nothing, and even they set
this up for us, we're going to get a human
actor to replace this dude who died and we need
him on the team. You're gonna have moments where he's
gonna be like, no, I'm saying, some fantastic ship. This
nigga just shot lasers out of his eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
This, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Like and introduced it. You're not arguing, You're you're you're
putting a different sentiment on it. We're not saying reacting
to it like yo, what the fun?

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
But every everything? No, no, no, no, I'm not I'm
not like the little I'm not debating that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Listen, please let me finish before you jump in so
you can hear what I'm actually debating. I'm not debating
the reaction to it. We're debating the whole Let's find somebody. Hey, ditch,
let me tell you about this tournament. That ship don't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Let me tell you about this tournament. It's real. No, no, no,
then I gotta do something. You're like, oh my god,
what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
That must be c I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
We don't that getting. We are getting.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
We're dating that part of in the tournament and seeing
it and be like, whoa, we're debating this.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
We're getting literal copies of story beats. But granted this
my bad. We only have the first trailer. All I
can go off saying it might be different from the movie.
I don't know because I didn't watch it going on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
So what I'm just trying to say those the fact
that is like, is that really an issue that Johnny
like john that's that's Johnny Cage's character though, like from
every like Johnny Cage has been like that in all
of the motor co anirations where he treats it like,
which is fair?

Speaker 5 (01:21:17):
Do that, but once you do, you kind of you
already ruined the story by doing this in the first
there's a lot of things in the first movie that
shouldn't have happened the way they happen. That doesn't seem
like it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
In the second.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Again, Luke King's whole art doesn't seem so, yes, you
are right, that is typically Johnny Cage. But don't pick
and choose what you're gonna do if you already did it.
Said we are getting it seems like we are getting
legit copies of story. Be tough, Okay, we got this
person who is in the world a we gotta we
gotta show them world being what they what they know

(01:21:49):
is completely different and everything, and it's like cool, I
get that that's what Johnny Cage typically does, but then
you probably shouldn't have did it with code.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
So that's in my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
I feel like to actually is the correction, like we
gotta do it one, whatever the fuck it is, especially
they gonna eliminate calling the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
But if they do that, I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
I can't assume that trailer go off what I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Yeah, okay, but when you make a and I'm only
saying because you said you're only gonna give it a
seven and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Because I thought the first movie was trying. I thought
they should have canceled it after the first movie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I like the first movie, like the first one. The
first movie like to me, let me ask you this.
Are you a Mortal Kombat fan?

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
I am? And that's why I thought the first movie
was trying.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
I mean, I didn't like the first movie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I like that, but I'm just saying, like, you don't
want to see it done if they're continuing in this world.
No again.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
I left the first movie saying, we don't need this anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
If this is what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like I mean, and that's
true in my honest like from the story of one
and whatever there was trying to do it one, I
was like, this ain't got should do a mortal comment
to me, like I don't care about this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
I don't care about it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
When I saw the trailer for two, it seemed like Mortal.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Comed again you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
I'm like, Okay, this is more like even if this
is like we finish jump right into the tournament, then
what what skyrocketed?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Mike?

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
Because then when I heard the rumors that colon again,
I'm okay, this is a reboo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
I was like, that's what I said, Like, because, like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I said to me, what they're doing, if if Johnny
Cage is the lead up to that's the that's how
the movie go. You know what I'm saying, That's how
they did the game. You know what I'm saying, Like
Johnny Cage was even in the actual game of Johnny
Cage was some more somewhat of an important person with
Sonya and Jackson because of where he came from. Because
they didn't have that, none of they had none of
them niggas like that in one. One makes no sense

(01:23:43):
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
You're saying you too, even now in the in the games,
in the and I guess the depending on where you're
at the comedy. But Johnny Cage is also a mazing,
He's a maining. He becomes this whole soul entity and
everything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
I don't know if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
And one, I don't know. I don't know what I
play one, but I hear that story is bro. It's great.
They changed, they flipped everything we talked about me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
I mean, so, I mean that's how I look at it,
Like I feel like, I feel like it's I think
that's what I said. I'm really excited for it. But
I feel like you're finna give me an actual Johnny Cage.
And I mean, it's crazy to me, is the fact
that it's like I can't remember who are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Died in one? Then somebody died in one. They can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
But yeah, but here's the thing with Mortal Kombat. Story
is this and it's in, It's in in in its essence.
Whoever is going to be the champion of this iteration,
this storyline, it's the main character. It's always that case.
It was Luke came for the longest in the game.
When they'll flip it. They'll flip it. And so to me,
it looks like Johnny Cave there I've been getting. Yeah,

(01:24:47):
so Johnny Johnny Cage is going to be our champion,
then yeah, that this makes sense. Did the way that
they're setting up this movie, Johnny Cage is the focus.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
That fish out of water.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Yet if it's a reboot, reccon, we're doing that running
with Johnny k because that means that eventually, when it's
all said and done, who does the final blow most
likely is going to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Be that made it because it would be because it
would just be Johnny Cage.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Because if we're still using the same cast, everybody know
whats going on, we're just grabbing Johnny Cage.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
You're saying. So it's like, so this Luk might be
a better version of him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
He might.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
They might.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
They might if they're reck cond of this whole one,
This Luke King might show us something to go around.

Speaker 7 (01:25:23):
Well, he was already starting to dive into his deeper
self from the at the end of the movie. But
my whole thing with them showing the retelling of the
story of the tournament and the trailer is we literally
at the end of the first movie they tell us, Hey,
we're going to get Johnny Cage because we need him,
and then now you show us in the trailer that
you're telling him the same exact story.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Maybe not use that part of the film as the trailer.
That's all.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
I have nothing I can go off other than what your.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
Show me, right like I'm about to I'm going to
the movie already knowing I'm seeing the exact same plot
from the last.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
One now, but it might it might be faster than
what we were thinking like that moment, because.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
It's not going to be a training arc.

Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
That's why I think y'all not looking at it as
a as a sequel, y'all looking at it as a reboot.

Speaker 7 (01:26:09):
And I feel like we don't know how they might
From how they're showing Johnny Cage, I feel like we're
still going to get that training arc from him. So
in the sense, we're literally getting that first movie all
over again, just copying and pasting Johnny Cage for cold
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
And it's going to it might get sped run.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
They just attacked the niggas. No remember when they when
they they it was a little bit they had a
little mini tournament did.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
That there was that was that's how that's how she got.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
That wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
Like they didn't start, y'all gon kill niggas and bring
me the trophies and that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Like still, but it's still they had rules. They didn't
want to be ones and everything like bro. There was
still a little mini turnment. It wasn't like it wasn't
the tournament, but it was heard of the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Style it was they had like it was not cheering
them on. There was no referee. There was a point.
It was attack.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
Song gave Kano the fucking thing to get rid of
Raiding's energy of spear around the temple right they came in.
That's when Katana not Katana uh Melita beat the ship
out of Sonya and told her she her blood. You
ain't even a champion. Your blood is You're worthless. Then

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they said they went home.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
They left.

Speaker 6 (01:27:37):
That's when Cole rounded the troops. We got to go
attack them, Raiding, send us somewhere, send us to each
one that matches us up better, and then we'll yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Up Sneak attacked. There was no im That's why I
said it wasn't a tournament style.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
That's why that's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
The actual turnurnament was next.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
That's why I'm like, I think it's not gonna be
the same because they're gonna be just like ambushing. You know,
we training, no nigga. They're gonna be kicking him up,
and y'all got in the tournament training for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
I don't even know if we get a tournament the
next one, that'd.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Be crazy training for the tournament, like you said, you
just said for the tournament common I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
You just said that Johnny Cage just wanted this washed
up actors not fight ready. So it means that they're
gonna they're going to have to have a training guard
having him trained for this tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
They may or may not. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
I don't think he's gonna train.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I'll gonna want.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
I'll do a ten dollars beat right now with anybody
that they we're going to see try.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
By fire, That's what I'm saying. I don't think. I
don't think I mean by fire. I think I'm telling
you who's going to train him?

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
Like you're talking about like a whole mont, it's going
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
The exact same thing that Rayton did for Cold in
the first one. He's gonna have to do it though,
didn't bet mean I forget that movie so much? Ask
me questions. Bet me ten dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
He's going out as a flying back because you gotta
give you more information on what I'm betting on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Yeah, what.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Doing some some like I don't like my think, I
don't undertand what you mean by training art because I'm
saying what I'm saying, because we're all agreeing that Jackie
King don't how to fucking fight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Well, he was trained with Luke King and Kung Laud. Yeah,
that was that was a literal scene like they trained.
They trained with and.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Luking actual Mortal Kombat style fight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
They were trying to unlock their power, unlock their power.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
So you don't believe that that that the Raiding is
going to train again with Johnny Cage to unlock on whoever.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
You because in the movie he learned about try by
fighter train the first very first movie, he.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
Learned you ain't to fly off the boat and was
like your matches next, Yeah, he fought Scorping in the wood.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Talking about what I'm talking about, What did you said
about Kung lad what you saying. It was totally Kane.
That was Remember they trained the whole is what I'm saying.
So they're not gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
You know it was it was and then they kicked
girl out, but they had but they had Jack's uh
medic What even to me, I don't think they're gonna
meet in the temple and do all that. And I
don't think I think they will ten dollars that because
they're not they'aking.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
I'm even in the story continuation they've already trained. Johnny
Cage is gonna be that character where it's like he's
gonna be asking everybody. They're gonna be on him like
you're not taking it seriously, you're not doing what all this?

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
But that makes sense I'm saying in this movie, they're
going to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
They're going to make him have a training thing. But
I don't understand why you think they will have a
montage of like a group training because the trailer.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
I don't know if I agree that there won't be
a training whether whether or will or not, I don't
think that we get a tournament in this one. Damn
crazy to what to what Mike has said that is
that was crazy to not having the first one, it's
gonna be crazy and not having this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
I don't feel like we had the tournament in the
first movie.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Yeah, the full tournament, yes, and the original nineties movies.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Yeah, I swear I thought I thought of the tournament.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
No, because they fought on the beach. The dude the
dreads for first and then he died. James took his
soul the tournament in the second there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Was a second remember every good comes Back movie sh
was a fight. Yeah, they just didn't kill each other.
That's why Johnny had to fight.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
And then yeah, because then they.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Got together, bec was like, oh okay, we beat we.
I mean I get it, like I you gotta do
the tournament to fight Khan and to then That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
I'm saying, Like I just I mean, for me, I
always thought maybe it was I mean, like I said,
it was two tournaments. But for me, for some reason,
I was thought one and two were just to continue,
which is the same tournament. Like it just it's just
like I don't recall, I didn't remember. I have to
watch two again. Remember to us to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Start off with Sa Khan uh yeah, coming into the
Earth round, because remember they remember they was the bottom
of the steps, you got a young U K. That's
the whole. Uh, that's the first one.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
That's the first one I'm saying, and the second was
But I mean, but that's how I guess that makes sense.
But I mean I guess because even how I always
look at the Lore of Mortal comment in general, even
though they're always gave a different tournament, the story just continued,
you know, I'm saying, like to me, so it's like,

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so like like two is like that's how the game.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Was right now. But but each what this is saying
is that no matter what the story is, there's a tournament.
Is a tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Oh yeah, It's like it's like dragon Ball is a
tournament that leads to another tournament that leads.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
You know, That's what I said. That's why I didn't like.
So I agree as a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Like, no, I didn't like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
This feels like this is probably supposed to be a
trilogy where one and two is getting you to the
tournament and three is going to be the tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
That's where it's like, I don't need that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
I don't need that either. I why do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
You so my question that push back on that?

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Why do y'all believe that there's not going to be
the tournament because I guess the fights that we were seeing,
we were seeing individual fights in the trailer.

Speaker 5 (01:33:19):
We saw individual fights in the first one getting people
to the area where you need to be. And to
be fair, that is a lot of more to combat games.
There's a lot of the game is getting in to
where you need to be. Then you have the tournament
to end. It sort of ended out, but it's like
I don't need it. I didn't need that to be
three films worth, and you want to make it a franchise.
It's tough to do because you're having three tournaments also

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for three films is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
But in a sense it kind of only reason only
reason why not really for Mortal Kombat is because Mortal
Kombat has the luxury of having new bigger bosses. Right,
you do the first tournament and the big bosses is
Shang Sung. The next big boss is Khan where you Haveell.
The next one is Kwan Chi, and you know, like
you can.

Speaker 5 (01:34:02):
Keep on, you're putting Quanchi over over shall come.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
In reality though, but but I mean, but I can't
forget Khan was just muscled.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Yeah, yeah, and the other dude was yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
So it's like they said, they have so with it,
like the normal as you're like all the tournament aspects
of getting boring, but in Mortal Kombat, because of the
lord that they set themselves up to be able to
do that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
That's what I'm saying, Like, on paper, it is weird
to be like fort to come out of year.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
You're right, hundred percent work. But on paper I can
see somebody she's.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
Like, yo, we got a tournament in the movie one, two,
and three, I could fully see somebody went, but you
are y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:34:46):
I feel like a lot of y'all showing y'all age too,
because I don't say, say person like you're taking the
scheme of the first few Mortal Kombats and saying this
is what the movie is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Like when.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
The games for the past like four or five games
have been storylines to a tournament, Yeah, that's like, that's
what I think it is. It's like, y'all not used
to a Mortal It is a story that leads to
the but that's what But that's why it is a
singular thing.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
That's why I didn't like this last Mortar movie because
that came out during the time Watter kind of was
getting the storylines, and again it was a terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
Story the movie trial of the games that they're putting
out there. Yeah, the game, you don't do a tournament.
You you really walk around, meet a nigga fighting nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:35:34):
But the movie storyline, it's like, ooh, this is the storyline,
y'all went with you because the so I didn't. I
didn't play once, so I don't know that story. But
the storyline for eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
It's crazy, much better than what the storyline for one.
I love the way that they reboot it, like, it's
so great.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
What I thought you was going to say to what
they're saying that on paper, it's crazy to say tournament, tournament, tournament,
I thought you was gonna say, well, not really, because
blood sports is really tournament, turn tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
How many blood Sports did we get? That's trick.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
But but it was always one person. He was just
you just knew Jack Cloud by fighting attornaments, one nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
That all we need to do tournament, actually I think
two or three three three, But all we had to do,
that's all we had to do.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
All we had to know is who Jack fighting the
next time that I feel like, I feel like the
point of that was, like, that's like saying Rocky every
karate Kid.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
I mean, yeah, all the King movies are just him
in the tournament. Like I would like I was training.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
Their leads off to the y'all kenep forgetting these niggas
fighting parking lots and at schools and at the pool,
and then the girlfriends get involved and then it's a tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
In the movie. It's still all within the movie. Yeah
said also old movie.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
That's That's my point is My point is newer movies
take their time to get to places.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Yeah, you know, so we can't always I'm not gonna judge.
You gotta give us a good story then, But how how,
how whatever know?

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
How far back are we going? Because we still got
like never back Down? That's a fighting tournament movie, old
ass move. No, that's in the last fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
What was Never back Down? Who Last One? Something like that? Never?
I why I'm trying to tell you this, what do
we call old ass movie? Whatever? Karate Kid? There was
a new Create Kid that came out literally this year.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Yeah, but that was But I'm just saying that never
back down before and you said, that's an old ass.

Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
Movie about the first kid, the first No, never back
down about the first Never back down the movies, right eight?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Yeah, and the first kid is nothing like the second?
Create kid?

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
The remakes?

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
It's still.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Fight everyday every movie. First hear what happened first?

Speaker 5 (01:37:56):
No one's no one's saying that they don't have stuff
that leaves. Every movie ends with the tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Tournament said.

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
Let me make my point clearer, it's not all about
the tournament. In some fight moves, some fight movies, the
tournament is just the nailing the coff So that's why
I'm saying the Mortal Kombat could just be that type
of movie.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Where it shouldn't be. That's what that's because the whole
when he was just he was just talking. What did
he say to me? Let me get.

Speaker 6 (01:38:33):
And then when I was just talking, I said, you
know you got it, let you go. So I to
get my point cross, Let me give you my point
is this, Sometimes the movies, the tournament is the most
important part.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
That's what I give.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
I think y'all are thinking, y'all feeling that way about
Mortal Combat, which I agree, because that's the premise of
that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
History of it is the tournament.

Speaker 6 (01:38:53):
But what I'm saying is if by the way I'm
looking at these movies, are I just want to see
it recreated correct, But if they're doing this, this is
just the way they're doing the games. Now, Like I
don't want to play that storyline game where I gotta walk,
you know, through this random nigga's life or switch characters
and fight different people.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I don't really want to. But if that's the way
they're shooting the movie, that's just how it is, which
is fine, which is all of us whatever. It's different,
but it's not good. It's you've got to give us.
Some people like it, some people don't.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Talking about me, we're saying, when you say it's not good,
that's you saying it's.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
All left from you saying I let off saying that
this is the best it can get as a seven
point five.

Speaker 6 (01:39:39):
Right, So I'm said, I don't I don't feel that
way that it's going to be the way that you're
you you described it to give it that rating.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
But I'm saying, from everything that we've gotten, which is
what I keep saying, I can only give what they
go off with the show. From everything that I've been
giving so far, I'm my point was, and it always
has been, this movie at best will be a seven
point five and can only go down from there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
I can see that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
But I mean I would be don't get a tournament,
but I will find if they just if the tournament
continues between two and three, like if it starts and
we get a cliffhanger something two and then the rest
of the tournaments in three. But in my mind and
my mind, if.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
This kid makes money, I think this is going to
be a five or six movie, like before you get
to a tournament, no and total totality we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
I hope a tournament does not last from two to
I'll be what I mean, because you have multiple tournaments
think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
The premise was that Earth needs to lose their last
so if they win, you can always rematch.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
To what we keep on saying, as of right now,
the story that they're presenting in this world is not
a good story. So even with what you guys are saying,
if it ends on the cliffhanger and leads into the tournament,
this story and two better be good as a Yeah,
I mean that's right, because the first story was asked,
If this story is asked, I'm gonna be upset that
I gotta wait for the tournament and I'm gonna lose interest.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
They're not gonna be here for four.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Like that's like the way I look at it is
like even from just understanding how one went regards how
bad story whatever, we have enough story lines on a
lot of characters when we bring it back. Is Johnny
Cage that if we if we adding anybody else from
another realm that'd be new, then that'll be a little
small thing on them. But we should be going into
the tournament also fair in coming. And like you saying
with the newer games, the tournament starts the moment them

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niggas another round, like like niggas be sitting niggas on anybody,
like we ain't gonna make it to the goddamn ring.
Like so it's like and even when you think about
the original Mortal Combat movie, they had a moment in
but them niggas fought wherever you got caught into you.
So I don't expect to see a tournament. I expect

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to know that we're actually fighting now for the for
the for the earth.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
And like I said, like in the original what made
there and probably why you thought you forgot that it
was a tournament. It was that it was a lot
of neother realm interference, but also the tournament in the
next day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
They kind of took what was the Brucelee Game of Death.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
It was kind of like Bruce Lee Game of Death
retelling where it was like, yes, the tournament is happening,
tournament happens in the morning from eight am to five pm,
and then you get the rest at night, but at
night another was walking up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
So there was a lot of those moments in the
original Mortal Combat.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
So they can do that in this too, where it's like, yes,
the tournament is happening, but also there's some nefarious ship
that thenother.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Room is doing on the back end side, there's whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
I mean, but and that makes that's that's what That's
how I feel like Cole. If Cole is getting eliminated,
it would be that like I can say, I can
see this tournament starting and Cole get his match or
whatever he first lost, like I said, he wins or
he actually wins, and they're like, oh, get this thing
out of here tonight, you knowing Meok, That's.

Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
My point, and I gotta address both because both saying
like I'm ignoring the story part. I'm not ignoring the
story part. I understand the story was trash. I've said
at the beginning of this whole thing that maybe they're
fixing the story by going back, taking dude out, implementing
this guy. But yes, there will be some learning curves,
but I think those learning curves will be put in

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at a critical times, like it won't be just like
this dude walking around, like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
What is really going on?

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
And you know it was like I was, I think
it's gonna be like, no, we introducing you. You're gonna
see some step by step ship. This is gonna be
some great kong fu. It's gonna be some great, you
know magic, and then you're gonna see a nigga throw
a fireball. You're gonna be like, wait a minute, this
niggas like and then this nigga what is you know?
And I think it's gonna be natural reaction and happy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
That was my point.

Speaker 11 (01:43:53):
But my batna hold on my beat tip of Carty
is that they're not gonna do that because this movie
has been asked so far, and that's what I'm better
at a carty that they're not gonna do that, that
they're gonna do the exact same thing they did with Call.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
You know what, that's my best.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
My belief is this, right, we've gotten ass movies and
we've just gotten used to it, and now we're all
of us expecting trash out of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
I promise you.

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
Let me say let me say this. But the reason
why I say this is because my mono at the shot,
he'll tell you I press play.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
I see so many people that judge it just off
the thumb nail in the first five minutes and like, brother,
this movie ass and by the end of day, like bro,
I really need to go home and finish watching this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Right. So I look at every movie the same way
that that's why you do this movies review.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
The first tailor might be terrible to your liking because
it's gonna be a mimic of the last one, but
that might also be a way of marketing. Let's get
them hooked. So then the next trailer, y'all like, oh shit,
this is something different than the final trailer. They're gonna
be like, you know what, I don't know what to expect,
and then you go see see.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
I don't want so much his day. I only watch
one trailer because the trailers give away too much stuff.
I only watched the first initial trailer. We're talking about
trying to get grab attention again again, That's why I
said that part might not have been for me, because
that did not grab my attention his part of the day.
What I'm talking talk about grab my attention as far

(01:45:39):
as like, yeah, in a negative way because and so
that's what I'm saying, Like you, I admittedly I've said
this on Camel allald time.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
You go into movies with more hope than most of us.
That is, that is a pure fact.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
But what I'm saying is, as of right now, based
off of what we got, based off of the movie
and that trailer, I don't believe that they're gonna do
the the reasonable thing that you said, and I believe
that they're going to do the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Same shit over And that's what I'm back. I don't
think I don't trust them.

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Yeah, other than to say I get what Kenya saying,
and I do. I do that with movies that aren't
a sequel, like if it's a brain new I'll watch
I'll have to watch the second trailer because I know
how trailers get cut, things get taken out of context,
so you gotta you gotta go into it with that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
But it's the you don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
You don't have the benefit of a doubt for me
because your first movie was complete ass. So it's like,
I'm already like, Okay, I didn't like the first one.
Let's see if the second one is going to sell me, right,
That's that's all. That's how I'm at. So then I
watched the second one. I watched the second trailer rather
and I'm like, as of right now, this didn't really
sell me. Obviously, I'm going to see what's going to

(01:46:49):
change as we see more of it, Like there was
enough in this trailer that I was like, I'm interested
in wanting to see more. And then I'm who knows
what's gonna happen? It's the second trailer? Can he used
to sell me? But there have been many a movie
where I didn't like the first one. And then as
I saw the second stuff for the trailer, I don't
need to go see it, and I case to the

(01:47:09):
point because I know all y'all love the Joker movie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
I hated that movie was trash.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
So I saw the first I didn't like it. So
when I saw the second one, when I was already
out when I heard it was gonna be a musical.
When I saw the second trailer, I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Okay, I don't need to see anything else for it,
because nothing about it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:24):
I didn't like the first one. This was like they
could be on more bullshit. I'm out and that's what
I'm That's where that's where this was sort of at.
I was like, okay, this has to get me to
be like I'll see the second trailer and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
You want to know the vice versa of that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
For me, I did not like Peachmaker at all. The
trailer I was like, no, this shit is ass. I'm
not about to watch this ship. I watched that ship
last month. Whoa that motherfucker is cinema?

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
I said, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
And so it was like, you know what I'm saying,
Them trailers sometimes to take you out, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
So like I said, I mean, yeah, I mean And
the reason why I.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
Didn't want to like Peacemaker because y'all know I hate
both Suicide Squad and the Suicide Squad.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
I think both of those are complete ass.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
So I was like, I'm definitely about to watch Peacemaker
like this was this ship was a yes for me
for me, and so when I watched Peacemaker, I'm like,
they should have different director though James Gunn did it,
but he did the second did the pace making peace Maker?

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Yeah, he did making which was that's the second one,
second one. I like the for the second one in
the first one, but to me they both were still ass.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
But the second one is what gave me Like I'm like,
all right, I'm immediate on Peacemaker.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
When Peacemaker came out, James, you didn sell me with
the Suicide Squad, but.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
I mean Peacemaker as a so even in the Suicide
peace Maker though, I want to let you in the
Suicide Squad movie.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
I know I didn't like it, and I did not
like the Suicide Squad. Why did you like it?

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
We talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Understand you, like I understand you don't like the movie,
but I didn't know you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Like the characters like I like the like the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:48:53):
The character didn't do it for me interesting because I
felt like he was he was exactly the same Nigga's
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Ye point said the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
I wonder if the rest of the movie poisoned like
the character for you probably.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Did because I was excited.

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
I was a sited for Peacemaker, like I didn't really
care for.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
Nobody else, remember everybody like in the movie, like I
enjoyed it on the podcast like in the movies.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
I enjoyed the movie, but I didn't really carefully. I
don't remember being I was okay, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
You know, I'm somebody was like knowing that he was
getting a movie after Zeus, I mean, or getting the
show like the times.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
I'm like, I'm like bened that motherfucker. Last month, I'm like, bro,
I should have been watching because you and you want
to know what baby. I was watching someone with James Gunn.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
He was like, yeah, Peacemaker and Peacemaker cast is definitely
in this universe, and I was like, well, I'm invested
in this new universe.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
I probably should watch Peacemakers. I didn't even watch it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:41):
Hopefully I watched it, but grudgingly like all right, well
let me watch the Peacemaker and watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
I was like, I should have been watching this motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
So yeah, m hmm, I mean, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
I get your recommendation. Let's get the recommendations. Hold on,
I gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
I got a load on my recommendation because Eagle Scout
member Man Big Sis Chris Man her her niece put
out a short film called The Figure.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
The Figure.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Yep, it's an independent short film. It's called The Figure
on YouTube. You go to Blue Robin Films. You know
what I'm saying. Make sure you put the ego E
moojis in that chat. But it's called The Figure. It's
a psychological thriller short film. It only has two hundred
and seventy four views right now, but but it was
pretty dope when I watched it, and I told her, like,
I said, we're gonna try to get you know, some

(01:50:29):
more views on there. So yeah, make sure y'all go
over there man Blue Robin Films. Yeah, there's a trailer
out like, make sure y'all go support.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
I'm about to drop the link into the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Yep. Make sure y'all. Yeah, make sure y'all go support.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
And then I've been doing a JoJo's was our adventure
rewatch For those who have not tapped into JoJo's Adventure
because I think, if I'm not mistaken, a new chapter
is about.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
To drop soon. So that's why I was doing the rewatch.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
Yeah at least.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Yeah man tapping Jojobar Adventure, Man Jojobar Adventure is a
good time. And I forgot how Like I said, I
if you want to see a generational hater, like if
you like like characters like iobar Thorn and you know
what I'm saying, and Lex Lex Luthor, especially in this
new Lex Luthor. But if you want to see another
generational hater, man d o is Dio is one of
them characters.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
And I guarantee you will love Jojo. So make sure you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:23):
Thinking about Lex Luthor, Let's Luther, Let's Luthor less man
like I like them, But they gave that nigga too
much power, like it was way like for where for
for where they put the time in words tu man
was I'm like cuse.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
He was president at one point, sound because he.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Was in the future generate later also a billionaire. A
billionaire can slip for a lot. I'm hockey universe.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
Bro likes knew how many niggas knew he had a
hockey universe?

Speaker 4 (01:51:53):
Like, Bro, what.

Speaker 1 (01:51:58):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
But I'm saying, I was sorry, niggas, Bro, you're not
You're not going home, man, Like, Bro, we got this
ship going on at work about it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
I felt like like I felt like, I feel like
like this nigga had you had you had a giant
monster in reperence, like in your back, your stash, a
pocket universe, like like, I'm like, bro, you hate this nigga.
And I was mad, and I was like, now you
know all his moves like everything, I'm like, you had

(01:52:32):
a whole nation.

Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
That's what Wait, it's like playing chess. Nigga's the exact
same thing of playing chess this man.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
But I was more mad than that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Moment of coming in was the first time he saw
this nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Two conversations are going on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Two conversations going on at once. And also we gotta
remember it. It wasn't like he just did it with
his mind. He also a very very high technically. He
had a whole command center here. Bro. If you if
if you are creating that pocket universe or whatever like that,
you got enough technology to study.

Speaker 5 (01:53:11):
He's super smart. Yes, they never said how.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Many billions, but we know this man has money.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
But we are conversation. You want to say one last
thing to think and this is not even the debate
or anything like. That's what to say.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
The only reason why I would say that the niggas
that worked and didn't go back and tell I can
see fear being a factor that niggas hiring niggas in
that body universe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
I can see somebody like I ain't telling nobody. I
just you gotta drop off girls, all right. So I
was like, I can see somebody like, I ain't telling
nobody about my dad work fun that somebody did, somebody
did ended up in it shouldn't happen. Happen.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
That's the only thing that made he just like Superman
when he's when the very first time they met each
other because about the dog, and I'm like, Nigga, this
nigga been doing ship well.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
He I don't think he ever knew that he was
the one who was for sure, he didn't know that
he was one behind you know, the Hammer, Berraba, the Caju.
He didn't know who was behind all all of this
stuff just happened. And that clearly tells you Metropolis get
into some ship because he's just like, well, remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
The damn Metropolis. I mean I get that. He I
get that. You know, like this work got like it
would it would have gave me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
It would have gave me just a little bit of joy,
especially because we had cameos in the movie that Lex
actually cast somebody to get the car the Caaiju like
another villain, like let me get that out, you know
what I'm saying, Like he.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Made a deal with somebody, but you didn't. Had all
his ship dog like bro, you know, based off of
Jesse Eisenberg.

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
They was like we gotta go full like I said, Like,
you know what I'm saying, Like this was op like
he was op like, like he was really so op
that he had to lose by his by his ship.
How heal.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
He was too op like? But recommendations.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
I don't know if I actually said this one, yeah,
but mine would be. I'm just starting. I'm actually in
the fifth episode now Lord Lord of Mysteries. I think
it's Lord of Mysteries.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
I just started that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
Oh my god, that motherfucking I watched the first episode
so far.

Speaker 5 (01:55:16):
That's just one of those that first episode was confusing.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
It's already that kind of TikTok thing where mother fus like,
describe the show, are you like, I don't really like,
you know, like a guy came back and whatever. But
it's like I said, it gives it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
It gives me.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
It gives me really like some fucking X Files or
just really horror coat like you caught up. Yeah, I'm
calling it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Don't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
Don't get any less confused because I was just absolutely
not because I.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Was just talking. I was just talking to us. I
was just talking to Swiper.

Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
I was like, she's watching it, and she was like no,
I saw somebody complaining that it's confusing good ship. I'm like, well,
I'm one episode there and it's confusing, but I like
it feels like things might start to clear up.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
I went, I went back.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
I went like I'm on five and I'm like, I like,
I gotta watch the over again, like to make sure.
I even called up to something like It's really.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Like one was a lot one, like I had to
rewinded a couple yet one bro.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
I watched one like three times because I would get
to two and like, what the happening?

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Won like.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
It feels like they war dun't but then they like No.
That was just that was just that day actually continue.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Like it's so much shit going on, Like it's like
it's so much because I had to for I had
to actually read it again and be like, oh, this
nigga did like he's reanimated into this world like like
he died, you know, one of them animates, And I'm like,
what the fuck is where?

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Who is he? Though?

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
Like why, like because he's like smart and know all
this shit going on. But it's like it's so many realms.
This niggas in talking to people and it's all about
a coat and they you know, like they're they're solving
like demonic possessions and like I said, it's really like
some fucking supernatural.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
They explain that, but still don't. In the first.

Speaker 5 (01:56:58):
Y'all watched the first episode, y'all not know any of that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
But these episode is like a case. He's still following
the case. So it's like you do this case, they
might solve the case, and it just you be like,
what's got through the story? Like he just did the case,
like and like you gets a little bit of information
here and there, and then it's like flod be a
whole different case and it's like nothing having to do
The second episode or nothing like, you're like, but it's
so fucking good is graphic it's bloody, like, it's really

(01:57:23):
fucking good. Like it's what I'm hard animated.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
If you will, it looks it looks beautiful too, just
just the one. Yeah, that's his ma.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
I'm gonna recommend Kydri number eight for two reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Anime.

Speaker 5 (01:57:35):
The actual season is back now, it's like that. Definitely
go see that first episode because you get in, uh,
this is something. These are some of my favorite fights
as a manga.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Come in. Oh, so you read the manga, okay, which
is the second reason.

Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
I was recommending Coutri No Rate because the manga just
ended this past week, so you know, obviously watching anime,
but I think you should read the manga.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
The manga it's a quick read. It I've read by
when I saw it, I was like, it's quick.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
In it, but it's fun, so you know, it's a
good time. And then my second recommendation just because I
don't know if anybody saw the Ghost of Yota preview,
but they got a shiny Chio wants want to not
be mode Samurai sham flu. They're gonna have a mold
where you know, the soundtrack be all that lo fire
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
So I was super excited from.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
Noway we were in here, but I was like, you
know what, I should rewatch Samurai Champ Flu again. And
so I watched and if you if you haven't seen it,
you should definitely watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
I forgot how great that that's good?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
That last one?

Speaker 6 (01:58:39):
Okay man, this week, I don't really have a recommendations.
I've been on the road. So last things. Matter of fact,
the last thing I watched soccer Moto Days.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
I mean they just I mean said, like I said,
new season, just.

Speaker 6 (01:58:54):
Soka Moto, which is which is crazy because like I
really like the direction of which is going.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
It started to get a little more serious.

Speaker 6 (01:59:05):
But it's also like I feel like he really be
killing people only when his wife and around, you still
think he still in the fight some.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Of the moves and you like, ain't no way. I
think you get his head through a wall.

Speaker 5 (01:59:21):
It's over anime physics that Nigga might have got back.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
Nigga. That was the over the hanging out and then
you see the niggah.

Speaker 4 (01:59:33):
I mean this nigga he fights then and immediately like
he burned that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
So I mean that's the super saying so.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
I mean so, I figure if you could do that,
then you can push your nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
Through the wall. Think I got this week is I
went and saw the new I know what you did
last summer? The Yeah, that was dope. It was a
nice little requill.

Speaker 7 (01:59:57):
I want to say it was a reboot or a sequel,
but it was a nice a nice story to be
added the original universe. I heard credit it didn't have
a post credit. That's wild, makes sense and it sets
up some ship I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
They always and I know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
She said an interviewed like anything you can say about
the movie that she's like, watch the post credit scene.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
I heard that it made sense that it led into
stuff to but.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
I was just like, oh wow, okay, now we want
to know what she did in the winter nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Uh Ogi recommendation man go to geek said podcast dot com.
Oh you know what before we get an og recommendation
for those watching. And I want to let y'all know
I'm gonna be on squadcasts coming up. I do believe
this Monday. If it's not this Monday, is the following Monday.
But when y'all see me on squadcasts and throw the
eagles in the chats man, like, I want to make
sure I let you know what I'm saying, bring our
people over there, all that digital man, they got me

(02:00:55):
on squadcasts.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
I'm excited for that is me Pat meg uh sit
here and Dion Lack. So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
That that was walk got climbed, Waukee got clowned in
it and hurt your uh your your mother didn't work
out as well, how he because somebody was and it
must have been it must have been pattent to here.
It was talking about it all uh have you on
damn scary.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
Then they watch that episode. They were like, yeah, this
is what's going hard. It was like they was like
at one point, I guess, well, I don't know. I
don't know who said it, because all right on board
what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
They started asking about so I'm going in right and
everything like that, and so he shout it all started.
They was talking about top Off and I was like,
I ain't never been to top golf like that, and
they was like, you got top mark.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
I'm like yeah. I was like, but that's not like the.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Major like date night thing, and I was like, we
do a lot of live music of live festivals.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01:53):
Downtown, So I'm explaining the night life and everything talking
about it, and then they.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Were like, what type of food y'all got.

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
I'm like, well, you know, we got bronze, lot of
German food, but we know for beer, talk about Harley
and everything like that. And then I was like, you
know what I'm saying. I was and then this is
kind of my fault. But also I'm like, hey, this
is not a bad feet. But I was like, I
was like yeah, and then I was like, you know
what I'm saying. I was like, you know, we just
got raided the number one public working in the world.

(02:02:19):
That right after that, she said that, and then it
fell off the realt.

Speaker 4 (02:02:22):
You definitely gave me a white ass tourists.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
You know, they asked the wrong nigga about food because
you don't you know what I'm saying. But I wasn't
saying much that.

Speaker 6 (02:02:37):
I had them until I said that, you know, we
got our own pizza, we got our own style of
a lot of you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Know, listen here. That wasn't the focus. I didn't think
they ended on food.

Speaker 5 (02:02:47):
Yeah, Rocket, When I saw it, I was like, I
can't wait to see this.

Speaker 8 (02:02:54):
I gotta see what lent to somebody going I'm bored.

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
She said, probably thought the public market. They probably think
it's outside, just cut because everybody but they think it's Wisconsin.
They probably think it's like they could he cut her
not to hear him, to hear been here. He didn't
go to the public markets from Saint Louis. They got
the public market. You know, I'm saying here has been here.

Speaker 5 (02:03:21):
Even if he ain't, he he at least know that
week because you said, like some old small pharmacy to
here has been here.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
He better not. Here's the he was just laughing. Went
to the South Side. Remember they went to the movies
and South Day were they were here, like they came
into the So I know they went downtown. I hear you,
But we don't know if they went to the public market,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:03:45):
But he probably went public market is still a boring place.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Like I was just throwing out accolades.

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Was we just you also have medio back pocket because
I didn't know you just saw.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
I knew that, but you just saw that. I didn't
know that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
To have that in your back pocket, you expect that question.
I'm like, I'm going down stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
Let me talk.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Some accolating came out. They swap that off the board.
After that you threw out them. They like that. Ship down,
said podcast back and follow us on all social media
platform at geek saying podcasts, Well, a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
Of people don't like public markets in general. Really, a
lot of people don't. They don't like I don't know why, sir.
I've had these conversations because ever since I learned that fact,
I've been throwing it out there and I've been realizing people.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Don't like the public market.

Speaker 4 (02:04:49):
Know why.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
You know what I'm saying. For those who are just listening,
man may listen.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
Joined to join the chat, Like you said, we have,
we have some dope people in our chat that we're
trying to build this community a little bit more so.
We definitely would love to see y'all in the chat.
Light subscribe and as always is only.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
Get some merch, to get some hats, get some hats,
go to the website.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
I got jumbled up a lot, so I'm off the floor.

Speaker 4 (02:05:16):
I mean, I meant to throw that my recommendation. That
should be my second recommendation, Get That Hats

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
That's always his only podcast, that playing Hip Hop Coach
and get Coaching together, and we are out peace.