Episode 206: What is the Most Iconic Hip Hop Music Video

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Speaker 4 (01:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:17):
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Speaker 5 (01:23):
What they do everybody? I got something special for y'all,
Well not for y'all for me.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Hanging up baggy.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
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Speaker 6 (01:43):
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been the number one when when they popped up, should.

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Speaker 4 (02:09):
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how to remove the background. Put all them little pieces
on the piece on the plate, shopping together. See what
it looked like. The first is.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
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Speaker 6 (02:27):
You gotta put the other five on the table plate
we're still left on the table.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Was like, yeah, I know what they got.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
The second half of a minute is where it got egregious.
The Will was not a friend.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
That Will was.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Will gave us every everything that somebody could look at them.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
There the game.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Jamie didn't say we need more Southerners though, Now y'all,
y'all northern, Northern take the buds.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, that fight for that was you had you sold though,
Man the way that kept looking over the camera like
the girl you're searching it up, kept on looking up
that big bro.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
The girl once didn't look that bad. I still don't
think I to eat him, though.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
What I'm saying, what's the big you have? Y'all just
told me what it was and was actual meat. It's
a little.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
The thing.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
It's not so because it's a joint. It's just like
you said, it's just a little bit of your latinous skin.
And the little meat is not just like literally.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
You like when she tried to put it up with
tail him like I feel like that. I get it.
But that's the only reason I don't like. That's why
I don't like ham hocks like in my greens.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
That ain't like I don't want. That ain't no meat.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
That's why you got to get a smoke turkey because
it's meat on.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That you know me.

Speaker 7 (03:59):
I think most of those I feel like are made
for flavoring, not to Actually that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's really meant for your greedes to get that. You'll
eat all that is, That's what I'm saying. But you eat,
you eat that anyway, like it's in there like coop
it in. It's just part of it, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, you're not.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Gonna take the meat out just because you like they
got They ain't fish like I got it.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I kind of understood when she said to Stew like
the whole was like the petty fee Stew.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I still still like we will say the rest of
the conversation though for the actual it's just.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Making you niggas hungry. I don't know. I got over
here walking around with a bag of snack, a snack
back of dinner.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's funny what what next went up to? Man?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Because I've been watching a lot of TV.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You my recommendation might be three You got three you've
been watching watching what y'all been up to?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
I've been on nothing, man, been real tired, real real
just want to I mean, I've been trying to enjoy
you know, Like I said, we've been having some decent weather. Yeah,
so I've definitely been trying to get outside a little bit,
just injoying something, doing some yard work.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
She liked that around the house, that's all. I've been
really doing yard work.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
Man, I just have to break all the leaves, have
to get my motorcycle broke down.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Done for you put it.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I would just like doing all.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
The garage stuff, like being a real adult.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, and it really sucks, but then it feels good
when it's done, and it's like a nice cool, you know,
code eating and you ain't got to do nothing, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Like that feels Yeah, I get that. I've mainly been
I ain't gonna hold y'all is very adult is I've
been gaming doing looking.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
At best like over there.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I mean, I definitely obviously having to clean get the
apartment ready for for winter, but that's a lot less
than what y'all got to do with actually having.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I didn't like to I didn't like to break in
the leaves.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
None of it's crazy. So buying my career, like I said,
you know what I'm saying. I got where I got
the garbages and everything like that. I literally because I
was dragging my feet. So the leaves from last year,
oh you out of control, it's still behind.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
What's right?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So, like.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
About like a month and a half ago, raked the
bitches up, had that but clean as a bitch.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Twenty twenty four leaves getting raked in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
You look at the past leave and so so seeing
the new leaves come down, I said, man, I just
ranked the bitches up.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
It's on little ecosystem in there right. That boy he
disrupted all that ship. Man, I was just dragging, was
saitting up.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Twenty twenty four leaves American started falling, Like, bro, what
we just.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Watched you all summer? Give a fuck about twenty twenty
five lead fall into that pound.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
This is what happened. No, there was, they're long, they're
just no. I got it.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I got it before the lee fall. But I'm just
saying I had it clean for about a good two
three weeks.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And then.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Now you're not gonna leave these those who get picked up.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
In twenty twenty six, I learned my lest because like
last year, I didn't wrap the leaves, so let that
snow hit and everything.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
So I tried to rake the next all right after.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
The snow.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
To get out the show, go back, to get out
there with a shovel. I was like, Brian, never, like,
what are you judging me? You just was in the
same situation a year ago.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Because I didn't back them up in a pile. I
actually just left them on the grass. I had to
wait back out there.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It works, ain't you kind of you kind of threw
him under the bust knowing news in the same situation.
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I learned my lesson.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
But it wasn't like you have to listen. He might
have warned this lessen. We ain't give him the.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Just rake them up. I raked those leaves up at
first spring. You're saying, like what the snow Milt and
is like, yeah, he learns this bast he was supposed
to do. You don't get the little patches sh right.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
On the yard.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
It was just it was a little like yeah, right
right behind the trash.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Saying so he actually did better than I did. So
I'm just like, I just I definitely didn't think about
it like this about.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
The spring bro like whatever, all right, Well, I did
want to talk about something that I've had on there
for a while too, because I wanted to get your
take on this trip west Side Gun in WWE bro
that shit soured like a motherfucker west side Gun, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
For those who don't know Westside Gun, he generally uses
wrestling iconic wrestling pictures and things like that for his
covers and for you know, for a while, I was
was like, man, I'm surprised they let that rock. But
I was like, whatever, you know what I'm saying. He
making dope ass music and ship like that. Well, apparently
he came to a head and at some point they
end up actually removing him from a wrestling event. Really.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, so he's that big of a fan and they
just don't give with her.

Speaker 8 (08:57):
Yeah, he had partnerships and like he doing deals like
you know, trying to show him love and everything. But
I really think for me, it's his partnership and uh
going with a w you know, and showing them more love.
And he got the their Uh he doing different songs
for their artists, I mean, and their wrestlers and everything.
So but I mean, w W has always shown that

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they're not they're not really for the culture. You know,
They're trying to make money off of people and you
know West Side Gun is not as popular as Travis Scott.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Because you would think they would that they would have
brought him.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
Just own Yeah, but you know Wes like so got
his own wrestling.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Just learned that with this situation.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Yeahstlers is that the thing because he has his own
ship that they just like kind of salt.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
They never really said what they what they they They
just picked they like three minutes into overall, they just
kicked them off.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Him a reason. They probably gave him a reason. I
don't think that like it came out yeah yet.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Well while wait till you get on air, Like I
almost feel like a setup, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Y'all know he was coming, even coming and doing it.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Like I said, there's a lot of like Westside Gun
Wallet like who else is Like there's a lot of
rappers that have been really really tapped in with wrestling culture,
been promoting it, been pumping it, like I said, while
they does Mania every year, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just like it's crazy that even still to
this day, in this day and the age of clout
and how the rappers is and social media. Is that

(10:31):
a big ass company like like WWE would still.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Like yeah, I donnerstand.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
You gotta think though they're also ran in a way
that's kind of like it's kind of like politics, so
like they only look for what what can move the
needle and like this because it's been like the wrestlers too,
like they've only really cared about people that make money
or stay relevant. So if you're not relevant, they find
ways to get rid of and they do it in

(10:57):
the most egregious way like that the documentary shows that
it's not a sport or a company that builds bridges
and maintains them. They don't about burning the bridge because
another person will probably come on And I wonder.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
What they gauge relevance off of because to me, like
I said, with the whole with what Westside Gun was
doing with wrestling, to me, it's synonymous and a lot
of people have that same sentiment like wait, what are
you talking about, Like a lot of people who from
hip hop who was like I've been tapped out since
the Attitude era jump back in because of Westside Done.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
They over hard when he was at the top of
his career.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
They do this, they don't give it like I think
honestly would have come to professional wrestler, like when it's
involves w w E specifically, they are the most vindictive.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
But I also think because he made it the biggest
by himself, so he did his own.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Dirty work to become the top.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I mean, I think they don't like the I think
they don't like the sort of what hell is music
as because they said that they wanted to. I was
just reading that's what I've been doing reading up on it.
They said that he wanted that. Gus w said, hey,
we want you to take the wrestling references out of
your music. So like, I think they just don't like
his music like the because like they have Travis Scott,

(12:15):
but Travis Scott ain't that type of rap, like you know,
it's like that more gangst the rap style, Yeah, whereas
let's give up more of his songs are like.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
His metaphors like a dig out, like like you know
what I'm saying, like you applied murdering death to.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think as I was reading more about it, I
think that they really were like, we don't like what
your like the substance of your music. We don't want
you to consider we don't want you with our brand.
It's fucked up that they waited so long to say that.
And wait, you were in person and.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
It's likes had the whole way flair drip and they
capitalize on that. You know, Cardi B was just as
SummerSlam though we really don't really consider that. In the parents,
We're gonna keep that story, but you know, they picking
shoes on what they considered. But I think for real,
it's just guy has a niche type of cut falling

(13:13):
in so he don't have nothing with that, like King said,
big enough to move the needle or push it any further.
So of course if we don't, we can say that
we don't like to what you talk about because it's
an easy.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
My talent is crazy, not to be fair, going off
of that, I.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Don't think that they like any of what they're talking
about either, but like they make them money at the
end of the day, you are correct, it is. I
do think it's the money, but it's the we don't
want none of y'all niggas here.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
It's really niggas aren't as offensive as this, So you
gotta go in the moment, which because you already know
it had to be one.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
And it was like wait.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
A minute, like somebody find like this is the last.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
Straw because he got the he got like he was
have eyes man, Uh you got the merch and everything
that that come behind it. You know. The his cover,
the latest cover was ted Dybi and Virgil.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's the one that they sent the sent desist. I
guess about yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
But he had a he also he took out a
billboard to put them up the Times Square.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
He got a budget. You know how this goes, like
you gotta have that, like you gotta give clearance up.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Nobody told him no, but I get It's it's a
difference from making it your album covering is going on
Apple Music, Spotify and all that to Nigga walking down
Time Square and see.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Ted Virgil with the custom married.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Why using my like, well why has character wrestlers actually
been pretty.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Cool with Itbut TB might not.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
We don't know how. I don't know how he would
have It's a state might not be. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It depends because we were like, say, we see we
see them young them young white kids that love hip hop.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
They might love Westide.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Done to be like but I mean they also want
their money.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Because I don't say the state.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
The family might be like, but I can't say that
too though, because I can see that.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
The outside people say, like the states or whatever, who's
not gonna cut that, they're not gonna even come for
west Side.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
They goahea, w w E, like, why are you letting
this people use our stuff?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Why do you do that?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Or coming to hey, okay, I saw this happen work
my cut.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Of it right, because they think you're doing something with them,
and if y'all not fucking Westside, then somebody gotta get paid.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Like so, I mean, as I would like, bro, we're
not doing no business. Why did you we had officially?

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Because I think that's the thing too that people don't
realize you have to officially do this just to the
next step for to be a lawsuit or desist and
all that can just be like, well we had a
healthy relationship. Tuesday we was like, no, we're done with
this ship because we don't like your lyrics, like you
have to be hey, we made efforts to be like yo.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm not gonna say that this is just sudden Like
west Side definitely.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Definitely do think it because there's been but there's been
times where he's been in the crowd and they've panned
over him other celebrities next to him, like he's been
like purposely cut out of Like so there's like it's
I think it's probably been boiling. And then he picked
the sea right and hard core.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
They have to show me.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I could fully see them letting just letting it all
build up and they ain't sid nothing to This is
the first time we let this all build stop.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Now we can't past the camera over me. Like when
I do that, what you do?

Speaker 7 (17:05):
You never like you're using my ship without without my approval.
You get me in trouble probably with this. People like no,
that is what you did, But I mean that's what
I said.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
I feel like though you would think that in that space,
like even if we were like, Okay, we're gonna allow
you to do this, but it's going to be a business.
You really got to pay for this, this license or whatever,
like did you'll just not approach west Side with this
or we'll never know?

Speaker 8 (17:29):
I mean, yeah it could because I feel like Triple
H is always always down to try it out. Yeah,
like Triple H or Seawn Michael Shayan Michaels is one
hundred percent for the you know, always trying to do
things for the people, and it could be TK t K.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I was like, nah, right, but that's the other part
of it.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
We're public betrayed. It's not really the image for trying.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
To also, and that's what I'm saying. It might there
might not have been no conversation. The fact that, like
said Shawn, Michael's a triple h hasn't tried to smooth
it over up until.

Speaker 4 (18:01):

Speaker 3 (18:03):
To what to what to what Trip is saying, they.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Generally do be a little bit more open mind Michaels.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, even so, the fact that what I said either
way it goes what I'm saying is to me that
that lets me know that there probably wasn't any conversation.
It probably was just somebody head up like hey, no, no,
no way, like like like we're not even trying to
smooth as over ceasing and says tell them to stop
or we got to get them out of here.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, like like Triump said that very much. I could
fully see t k O being the ones to being like,
is this making us any money? And they ideal is
this making us any money, It's gonna be vastly different
than what Triple H and Sean Michaels was because t
k O, like said, is publicly traded. They looking at
it like, is this gonna bring in billions?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
This is going to affect our stocks?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, because I mean even with the Westside guns and
you know, bringing more interest in it, it's like, is
it changing Like I said, the viewership is changing the
seats and if it might not be you know what
I'm saying. It's like for for a hip hop and
for us, it was like, oh, it's just dope to
see somebody embrace that culture, that merger and everything like that.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
But from the business side, I don't know how much
business it really it transpired to. I don't think it
really increased much.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
It's gonna be like how we going to you know,
matches or buying.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Because of West Side.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yeah, and especially not how they're pricing out you know,
the average customer. That's gonna make it tough for anybody
to bring it and new people. So that's why you're
trying to get people with large followings that's going to
pay that money no matter what like con Travis Scott
or a bad Bunny. You know, those people are going
to follow and flock to that, to that that spectacle.
But it's just it's an unfortunate time right now where

(19:42):
you see a company that has been led by somebody
really deceitful and vow and now he is being made
to look like the good guy and all of this
because of how he ran it and the business plan
and formula that he ran behind him pricing it for
a family leaves and making sure that you have these
opportunities for these niche artists to make a small showcase

(20:08):
and so to speak.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So it's it's it's a tough world we live.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
In right now.

Speaker 7 (20:13):
It is.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Man, that's such a crazy angle. It's such a crazy
a rapper and wrestling like just going out of.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
These It's just it's entertainment. Because remember when when Wrapped.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Finally first like when they first like did that murder,
when they did that album with that rap album, I
was like, oh, like that was such a big moment.
But again that was licensed. They was able to sell that,
they was able to product that, I was able to
create new.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Intro disaggression area.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
It was like wash those what they called those those
little albums because they have to a Thanksgiving song with
the rock on the It's like, oh they.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Was doing all this. I mean, I mean w W
Lofely loves some rap music. But where they can I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I don't think they.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think when they when they can make when they
can make business.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
The culture, it's workout culture. So like like the rock,
that's why he keeps making certain types of music. But
you know this would always kind of go back to him,
right because they know, like the people in this industry,
the people that we worked with listen to this every day.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
So I know a lot of people some people might
not agree with this.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Some people know. But I want to say the reason
that hip hop really grew probably the most more in
is because of John Cena. John Cena came in with
that whole rapping persona, and as corny as it was,
the white kids that that buy those tickets loved it.
They ate it up.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
There was so that was a big that was aug
That was a huge marker because because Johnson never gave
me anything just a white rapper. But but but but
it was he did yo.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah that was like but you think it was other
people that were in it way before him, but people,
but people was dressing other people. You know, whether the
thing what John said that and this is only my
opinion for what I remember his his his his whole
thing was looked at like a spectacle.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
It wasn't respected in hip hop. It was looked at
like dude was trying too hard.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
So talking about across the board like fans, But what
I'm saying is like they they like hip hop was
already in the wrestling culture. So him stepping in with
the gene, with the gene shorts and it cut off
and the wrist bands that that remember because he remember

(22:35):
he had Transformation era yea. His first one was corny.
The second one was like all right, he had a
T shirt. You know what I'm saying, He wasn't.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
So I'm not talking about benefit for hip hop though
I'm talking about with wrestling.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Was like, oh, I see, like this hip hop thing
is working.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Because at that point, if you think, if we're talking
business standpoint, when John Cener came in and was rapping every.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Time he came out there, you had kids that wanted
to do that.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Kids started buying the official merch that was really just
hip hop clothing.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
It was like a costume. Look like it looks like yeah, no,
no costume.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
It was. But what I'm saying, like the love, I'm
not saying they love, so I just say love.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
What I'm saying is is a costume.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
And as a as a business of w W they're like,
oh this hip hop think we can make business off
of it? That sid not not beneficial to hip hop,
beneficial to the w W.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
E they see they can make money off of it,
they're gonna lean.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think I think the
way Deuces is worded it initially it's sort of what's
getting the disconnect because I do think because I don't
think they loved hip hop, then they definitely don't love
them now they don't. They saw that they can make dollars.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
I don't think they made a lot of money things.
I don't think they made a lot of money off Johnson.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
The money John.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I think this album with.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, That's why I think this is right. I think
that was when they finally were like, Okay, we can
do a hip hop or a rap based thing or
gimmick because we can't we can't actually make money of
the work.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
And that's what I say, like because to me, like
like I'm saying, like John Ceno.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Wasn't like because like rap music if you look from it,
it was like it was like, what's that is rapp.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Crazy?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know, out.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Out, But it's it's it's marketable. It's hip hop that
was marketable the white people.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
That's what what what what.

Speaker 8 (24:44):
Got it though, is because John it was actually good.
It wasn't like he wasn't like he couldn't because he
actually that was something he actually liked to do. He
was actually a studio of hip hop in the background.
But just because they felt like that's something that you
can do, we can make money on for that.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
And I mean, shy an this, I'm not accepting it
as hip hop because it wasn't act like if he
was himself.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Coming out artists are though, no, no, no here, I
get it.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
But we also don't classify them as hip hop. We
can put them in pop category, right.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
So, but that's that you're coming from a hip hop standpoint.
I'm pretty sure people who are in hip hop and
who love hip hop feel the exact same sentiment as you. Now,
white old white man in suits, what do you think
they're classifying and ask, well, that's hip hops.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Let's market that as hip hop, and that's what we're
talking about. We're not saying.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'm not getting what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
We're not saying the look at it, I would.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
Think eating a business standpoint, that's part of it was
it was disrespect to hip hop because they knew he
could have been genuine.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Well, so that that's why I like him at first.
So that's why when Johnson, I.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
Literally did not like him, plays a role as arapper,
but he's like a wacky d ass rapper like dancing
and all that, and you like, what you're saying is, yeah,
the people in the office look at this and you
know we can sell it.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
But what I'm saying is I don't think that they
were looking at it like we're selling hip hop. I'm
looking at it like, oh, we can make fun of
hip hop by selling this image.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I don't think they was looking at like think of
it that way, because I don't think john at the
same we needed a wrong.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
He needed that to put himself in because think about
it now, he wouldn't there do it now because he
don't need.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
To, but because why would why would they want to
make fun of him hop like and they know and
they want to ride that wave as much as they
can to make as much money.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
So it's like, let's let's amplify this. Let's say that
this is.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Hip hop to our crowd. Would they do it? Why
would they show that respect to hip hop?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Because because all there because again they're not appealing to
hip hop. What they're appealing to is our crowd. If
we can make our crowd think that this is the
hip hop that is, then let's just sell this to them.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And but that was the thing that time. Also, that
was when a lot of more that was a lot
more white youth were getting into hip hop in general.
But hold on, no, no, no, because so it wasn't
a it's not a i'm doing this ignore that person.
I don't know what they're talking about. But it's not
a I'm doing this out of respect her, I'm doing
this to ridicule. It was this is something that is happening.

(27:19):
I want. I want to be on the forefront of
the door. I don't care about I don't even care
about the culture. I just care about the fact that
enough people in general love it that I can see
that I can make dollars off of it, and this
this rapper that's coming or this this the restaurant that's
coming up. White hip hop wants to do it, wants
to do a give yours. You always have to do
it a gimmick with wrestling.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's what I'm coming from.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
I'm not coming from a standpoint of somebody who's in
there saying, Yo, this dude can play a good role.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
We could.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
This would be great for you know, ww and to
introduce hip hop into this or you know know that
I'm saying in a sense of like they probably saw,
like you say, a niche crowd of certain suburban kids
or white kids starting to really fall into hip hop,
and was like, you know what, let's let's just make
a character that can fit that crowd.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
And it just blew up.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
But it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
It wasn't.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
It wasn't on purpose, is what I'm saying. But it
wasn't like we're gonna, we're gonna do this purposefully to
you know, bring hip hop in. I just think that
they thought it was like a good business deal.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Was on purpose, and every gimmick is on purpose.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
Everything it was on purpose in the sense that before
that john CNA had nothing, but they knew that they
wanted Johnson to be the guy, right. So he was
in the back of Rake, back of the tour bus
one day with Rake. She yeah, yeah, and Godfather in
there back there just rapping, you know, back there, just freestyling,
and john comes in and he starts freestyling. Stephanie over

(28:48):
hears it and it's like, Okay, that's nice and stuff.
Can you do that on spot? And he's like, yeah,
I can do it all the time. So she brought
him in on one of the backstage segments and just
had him freestyle and it was like, Okay, said, but.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I avantage an opportunity. I think, I don't think think
about it.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
You didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
You didn't do that with none of the other black dudes.
But I'm not gonna say that. That's what I said.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
That's what makes it.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's what makes it the gimmick though, because it's obvious with.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
The black dude.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Everything gets character if you just mad a blackue like
I'm gonna be the rapper wrestler because you got obvious.

Speaker 8 (29:21):
Crime and they got over. But they couldn't push crime
time because like you.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Know, but everything, everything always starts as a gimmick based
off of opportunity the Godfather, but when he before he
was the Godfather, he was what was I always get
the name wrong?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Uh kind Yeah, And so you know what I'm saying,
he saw like, oh.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Ship, I can be a pimp, I can get.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Some holes and you know different, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, like I said, they are giving to Like
I said, love.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Came out at the time when the hippie eraror was
going crazy. Dude, love came out of time when it
when it was the hippie eraor and everything like. It's
just like everybody, like you said, that's what wrestling is.
Wrestling full of gimmicks. I just think that, you know
what I'm saying. And again Bird Stephanie, like I didn't
look at it as an issue with somebody said, oh
I think this gimming worked for you.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Let's do this gimmick, because to me, that's good way
thought to have to assume that.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
See, I got the okay because he was just literally
rapping with a bunch of niggas they like.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
They had to okay too, Like okay, but again to.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Your point, as a hip hop head, you know what
I'm saying as a hip hop purist, when John Cena
first came out one, I was also I felt like
John Cena was mimicking a lot of the rock so
I was I didn't even like John Cena when he
first came out.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I hated the rapping, I hated his clothing, I hated
his staff.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
I hated it.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I did not. I did it, but because again,
it's just because it seemed like a gimmick to like
what King said, it seemed like a very very obvious gimmick.
But again, when you when I started realizing that, wait,
everything's an obvious gimmick no matter what. So I was like,
you know what I'm saying, I started accepting. And then
I started seeing him wrestled, and I was like, oh,
well he really can. You know what I'm saying, He
can really?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I mean I never can.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
I mean he wrestle. I didn't ever care for the
man to actually be a very talented rapper, but he
went platinum.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Rapper.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
There's a lot of rappers, but he's the third entertainer.
I think that, like, because you know, Shaq went platinum,
John c went platinum. I'm talking like, who like who started.
If I'm not mistaken, it's a horrible list. It's an
exclusive list. We're talking about. I got Misserves got BIGI

(31:29):
on his album Bro, don't do big on this album.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Deserves Shack.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Shack told you I like playing on the West Side
even though I missed playing on the East side. I'm
trying to think. I think, did Roy John Junior go platinum?
I think you know so that song, that song on
the album.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Song the plating, but you you know them well? Who
was damn well that album?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
May go make sure you'll go check out my story
time when I almost signed the Roy Jones Jr.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (32:12):

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That ship ain't ebody.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
If somebody had Entertable, it was a compilation album.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
It was body had bangers.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Everybody wan bangers. Bro. He had like Bro, he had
Magic on there. He had young bloods on there.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Bro, he has b Yeah I'm not I'm not talking,
but you know, damn well that whole album. Like I said,
the song, the song might have went platinum.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
What's your favorite like non rapper, non singer, but like.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Athlete, an actor, athlete or song they did a song artist. Yeah,
it's got to be athlete. It could be an athlete,
it could be anybody. It could be can party on
the time, Eddie Murphy, that's I was gonna say that.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Jazz. Oh he does have a jazz.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
He sounds like he looks like he would be a
cold y'all.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Remember Chris Rocks no sex and that no matter what
they tell you that no sex, Like this is a dope.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
What about Dion said this must be the money. I mean,
that's my That was that gave me. Definitely gave you
Eddie Murphy?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Who else? Who else? Like I said, Eddie Murphy. It's
funny because Jamie Fox would have been considered that until
he started putting out albums and making it like that,
because he.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Went crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Because I don't even remember, like, say what he was
there with Kobe about Kobe, No, that was a good reason.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
I love Kobe with a lot of aspects.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
It was Kobe.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Do you want to know what hurt my heart?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Alan Ivers sent forty bars because I just knew he
was gonna come crazy on it.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I was like Alan iverson he's from Philly. The song
called forty bars.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
He about to go crazy, but yeah, he put He's.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Put out multiple Yeah, I was gonna say, damn, but
he put out.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
But also I don't.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I can't name a dame song. I think, but I can't. Dang. Yeah,
that's because you're a Bucks fan.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
M M.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Probably subliminal. You're like, dude, no, I know, but you
just said you don't know none.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Of his songs. No, I mean I listen to his
mixtape and everything.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
I know to be because you're no. Because to me,
I've said it, he's the best.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Rapping athlete out like that ever right now to me
was pretty good. I heard jack jack good. No, hell yeah,
he was Jason Brown. Other dude, Charlotte he played for
Charlotte LaMelo. No, uh damn he din there lost his
career over this ship. He's still playing.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I don't know who's talking about.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
He's currently playing first Yeah, he's playing right now and today.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
No, I'm just saying he's good.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Oh yo, okay, ain't no mountains bridges. Steve Jackson had
to run when he was putting like mad videos on
World Star ship and I was like, somebody is kind
of fire.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Let me tell you my story about Stephen Jackson. The
story time, so he was here, what year was that
like two thousand and five, two thousand and six or
something like that. So either way, this bum damn he
came here fan played like five games. Now he only
really played well to those games. Then he was like

(35:41):
he was hurt. So it was one night I felt
like we was playing the bulls. We lost to the bulls.
We got slacked, right, dog didn't even come to the game,
wasn't even on the sideline.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
But he had a show at six one eight the
same night.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Talking about Stack five whatever performed bro We left the
Brownly Center or yeah, I think it's still the Brownie
Center and went to six one eight. Dude up there
with like thirteen niggas bro rapping and all this walk Instead,
you're supposed to be hurt. You supposedly can't even play.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Or come to the game, can't come to one job though,
he can't work.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And you know what's funny, But you know what funny
as much as as much as I was like, I
was just saying, like you know what I'm saying, all
right with his music, that that tracks when you like
Steven Jackson's character, Like, yes, that definitely tracked that he
will like.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
The stadium is five blocks away yeah, I was gonna
say it.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
That'sn'll make it that you gotta go far to go
from the stadiums six one eight.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
So in a sense, that's why I don't respect things.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
All right.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
So you said, Eddie Murphy is yours?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, party on the party at the time, it's my ship.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I might go. I think I'm going. And Deanon Sanders
must be the money because I really love that one,
even though I love I love part of the time
as well too.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
M oh. It could be a comedian, it could be
a sports player, just like their main there.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
Don't really listen to other like people's musical talents, like
like like I still I still be shocked with I
realized that Stevens had album.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
But Cartier was dude. He was telling me earlier about
Famish was playing football and want But Cardier the person
who was, alright, why.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Are you thinking about that?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Because you know, hey, check out my interview Michael James Shaw.
All right, bro doing the researcher. We had the conversation. Bro.
His his life is literally a made for TV movie
because he's born He's from Florida. His pops was a
football star, so of course, you know, big ass dude,
you know what I'm saying. So he was a football star, right,
his pops was a local star. So you know, he
breaking records, you know what I'm saying, got banners up

(37:59):
and ship like that. But his love was not into
into football. He said, literally, it was one day he
was at he was at practice. He was just looking
up and he just realized that this is not his
love and he walked off, walked off the field. He said.
The coach was so mad, yelling at him everything. He
said that Monday, when he came back to school, his locker,
everything was thrown out his locker.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
He took his banners off and everything.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Doing it. And he said, you know what I'm saying,
because and it wasn't like he just jumped into acting.
He jumped into the theater. So of course they was
all upset about that and everything like that. But talking
to him is funny because you know he's so big
and everything like that. You expect us like bravado and everything. No,
he because he went to Juilliard. He is he is

(38:44):
every stereotypical Juilliard trait that you could get. Like, he
was like, man, I want to play these roles right
at the scene and dance, but they just never give
it to me.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Be sitting back there discussed like he started.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I was like, bro, your story like this is like
a Larry movie. Bro, you know who?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
I just trying to almost kind of get the same
type of ship near the grass Tyson. I think it
was a elite wrestler, right, hilarious supposedly left wrestling to
be a dancer, Brolary.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
That's crazy, and then ended up with an astronomer one
of the smartest man the smartest people in the world
is a bananas twist. He was captain.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Captain of the wrestling team in the Bronx Brow so
that showed his picture Arnold he like he At the
same time, though, he was still also editor in chief
of their science journals, so at least he.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Was also still keeping.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Because he's not a small man. So to leave your
wrestling college, I guess right, mm hmm, underseated and go
to a dance nigga like you're big?

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Was the niggas move walking across? Yeah, that's what I'm talking.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
Because I mean it really would have been mine, would
have because it must be the money was my ship,
So it really got to stick with Musty the money.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Was it song or like artists in general, because I
ain't gold you party all the time. It's the only
Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Song that like, it's only song that he really well,
you got a couple of songs that really did something.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Was that they they're not party all the time the.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Time.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Ain't nothing but party all the time?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Crazy bro, And it's such it's such a like Rick
James was a genius, Like this all you gonna do
to say this over and over again, like you know,
to say this over and over again.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
The fact that he did it so high.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
From the music.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Did you see the video?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, video, it's crazy the party.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
This, Yeah, he's got one.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah. And after watching that Eddie doc bro, like you
know what I'm saying, Like, bro, Eddie Bro, that's crazy, bro,
Eddie Bro.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Mama ship that he did by the time he was.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Twenty one, that would if it would have quit right
then and there, he would have still had a legendary career.
Like that's crazy. An't worthy that dude?

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Watch you?

Speaker 8 (41:18):
I ain't watching it because Eddie Murphy would have been mine.
I'm gonna go with a low key one. I'm gonna
go Kevin Bacon, Kevin Baker has a song. Yeah, he
might actually classify as an artists at this point.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Now though, is Mark Wall working as an artist? But
it was Marky Mark he rappers. True, that is true.
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I do agree that Kevin Bacon he just an artist.
This is this is way too many damn songs. I
had to click show more.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
For the sports watchers here like that?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
What about Nick Right? Nick right music? He rapped, rapped,
I'm talking about East Coast back.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
What's Max Keller? I don't like Nick Wright? So no,
his text this mag ninety two songs?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Who like you gotta have an album?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Just got mighty two songs?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
God have an album? What he's singing?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
He all right?

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Which which entertainer? Which I want album from?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Right now? Somebody that you think he just albums.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
That's probably mine.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Right there because his music you do too many?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
No, he just I mean here DJ, but he also rapp.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Just saying is that he does too much ship What
he was acting first? He just having to slide into
it just like drill. Is it like you can't drill?
I would have liked it.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Fire, I would to say he's enunciates. He don't rap
like how most you can't?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, okay, wrapped like an English speaking UK about to
check it out.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
I've been thinking about this right because we give a
lot of slang to U K rappers. They do, I
definitely do. So how do y'all feel about slip rick?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
He was definitely, but it didn't sound like the one
do you You know what? I don't like u K
drill like because I'm like, I would say that the
UK drill he got definitely did. It's u K drills,
but I don't like that. It is that the UK
you just can wrap over those beats.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
But rapped, yeah, it is that.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Not at all. I have heard one.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Like when it comes to that type of music, and
it's been explained to me, and that's why I don't
agree to it. It's vibe music, so you are making
noises just like Skimpy Pat but it's not music. It
is just making noises.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Anybody to do that until until until Parties playlist.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
I've never heard that play out loud. What's that?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You can't drill?

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Yeah, I mean I don't think it's that bad. Some
people just that's the thing I ain't about you K
drills because you do gotta listen.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Like sound the same, not you God like you got
to like sub adam.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
Like you gotta pay attention so I might listen to
and be like you sound you asked though, you see,
that's why I.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Can't respect it, because you got people like like s
as right, they rap.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I don't even know who that I can understand them.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
You niggas come behind with y'all little.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Like no bro like rapig because y'all can't rap like
if that if it didn't exist. It's just like how
we don't like I don't really do mumble rap. Like
y'all was talking to me about young Man. I didn't
do young stuff for a long time because he was
mumbling and when he cleared it up, I still kind
of didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
But I can.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
I can deal. I mean, I guess that you can't.
Definitely is his own first like a mumble rap.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
It's like a mumbo rep style because it is like
mumble rap is really rhythmic too, Like it's like that.
That's why people I don't know the you're saying, bro,
you just ride on.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
His beat like they're just well say the ones who
are considered great in mumbo rap saying things. That's what
I realized I separated from, Like there's certain one mumble rappers.
I'm like, bro, you're not talking about ship, but there's
some that are actually when you break down the mumble,
you look like, oh ship, they're actually talking about.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
The example that I remember, I justly heard the argument
and they were saying it's future. Future is the king
of all of it because he knows how to turn
the mumble rap in the harmonize, so he's not really
saying ship, but he makes it sound really good.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Because I'm gonna let you the future, I don't be
no future.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Got a lot of.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Stuff, has a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
He has a lot of stuff where he's saying stuff.
But the reason why exactly, that's the reason. The reason
that makes in the king is that he can literally
just go and it was slap because he'll do that.
I said, bro that I feel like somebody legit said, bro,
I bet you could say anything on there.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
I probably can't, and did it. I was like, I
feel like future.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Completely.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
I think it's crazy to that. Don't do drugs or nothing.
It's like, bro, you just be really in there making up.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Ship Strawt finding that like this music to the moon
that is crazy, like you you finished up all right, guys,
but also but also drugs.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
But you know that's why because like if.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
It was somebody that we expected didn't do drugs, then
we wouldn't be so hurt. Like that's like if the
Weekend said, yeah, no, I don't do any drugs, you'd
be like nigga, what But.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
No, it's because of your aesthetic is drugs?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You just you you mastered that aesthetic because it's like
you from from day one, somebody knew that he didn't
do drugs and he was doing all this the.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Engineer, when did you do this?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Like hearing I'm doing this, it's like it's the same
thing I said about John that it's just not authentic.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Well what if he what if he committed to it?
What if he like he come up with it like
he has like a cup, a double cup full of
purple stuff. Now really this purple cool day.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Nobody know he's just sitting there he he what did
he fully?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Like you know what I'm saying, he gonna full matter
with it, like you know.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Because I've seen him with double cups.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
If he's drinking what's in double cups with double cup just.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
To know.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
I'd be more mad if you.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
That's what I'm saying that.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
But you've been doing that though, because somebody has asked
you what's in your cook bro Like, oh, hey, nothing
little water?

Speaker 3 (47:54):
No no, because what if he's what if he's being
like really cool with it, but he's saying the things
like what you got in there?

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Oh you know, just some purple stuff or some jolly water.
You know you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
You don't know you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I don't the word man.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
If you go through all of that like much you finished?
I got that was right for the day, you guys,
he said, I just said my no man, he just.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
He said the word lean man A definitely man. We
popping bottles, man.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Said said he got he got like prely clean and
be like we want to do my pose. You ain't there,
but you sober.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Even even March madness. He said he wouldn't funk her,
but the molly would like you would. You can't tell
me that I've been clean.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Stuff there.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
All studies, all studies, he's just doing living like homies
and what I really hating the lumpies high for perkinst.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
And we we literally have spent decades arguing that rap
should not affect how kids and all that ship act
like parents. But it's fucked up because the parents have
been influenced by this to be crackheads the whole time.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
He's so.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
He gotta be paying some good because I mean, it
came out finally now. But like I said, if you've
always been like this family, even it's just your an
environment in general, like niggas would have just hang around,
you gonna be off Miley and Bernie.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
You want one of these?

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You want one?

Speaker 4 (49:46):
You just like, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
He might if you keep that up.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
He always gone trying. He ain't trying to never take
that next day.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
And also, as a celebrity, you can deny more drugs
from other people because you know, people always assume that
celebrity you already got got your own. You got your own.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
You gotta look for it, celebrity, but you ain't gonna
have it.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
If I'm coming to you like I'm trying to go
get out with future. He like right, But that's how
they know you not get around us. Does what I'm saying, Oh,
you're trying to get high.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Okay, come on to this room.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Looking everybody around it.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
They know, like you don't go because he.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Probably just he probably just do the Irish exit like
he probably let it.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah smark up, let's go in. And they say, you
know niggas like what if a future but the mob
still popping?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
He must must he couldn't hand it.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Niggas got masked, like yeah, you know I outsmoke future, right,
you know that's that's probably one of.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
The like one of the like if I could be
a fly in the waters to see how this niggas
maneuverent through before it came out, Like how were you really?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Can you?

Speaker 7 (50:54):
Like a niggas who lied to his girl was like
I watched future take like three perks right, stay with her,
still with her, and it come out this nigga don't
do no drug? Can you imagine that these.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Stories somebody, somebody's entire persona got destroyed because the persona
was about how much they go out with Hendrix?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
You know the future you know, me and my nigga
andres Man or somebody lines in his deal something.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Somebody's entire world it's just destroyed.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Let's let's keep it. Let's keep it on Music Wild Transition.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
But we want to let real quick we do a
quick Grammy conversation because a lot of people have been
upset about it.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
One because gen X is still being.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
And everything like that.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Clips is on there. Like I said, I want to
say shout out to ja Yeah, shout out to Jed.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
As much as I love that album, Jed is a
relatively newer artist even though he's been in the game
for a while, but like this is still considered his
early years.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
But for the fact that that album is in there,
his sophomore Yeah, like, bro, that's that is huge.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Bro. You know what I'm saying, I fuck with Jed tough,
Like I'm trying to pull it up now because I think,
you know what I'm saying, I don't know if we'll
ever get another Big three error. It seems like it's
it's kind of crazy and everything like that. But Jed
was always one of my front runners of the New
era that I said, Yo, Jid is gonna be considered
the top one of the top MC's.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
That's that's my that's my my who who I'm betting on.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
If if, if you have to choose out of all
this era of new rappers and if you have to
choose one to pick, like I said, like I got jed,
like I said, I think it's dope that Freddi Gibbs
is finally getting his his love and he's not should
have been on the.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Album of the year, so general album of the year.
So this is just the overall one. Bat Bunny. Oh
it's in Spanish deby terrar my photos.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
That's what you got, uh?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Justin Bieber swagged Sabrina Carpenter Man's best friend clips let
God sort of them out, Lady G got Mayhem, Kendrick
gn X, Leon Thomas Mutt, and then Tyler created Chromacopeia.
So that's album of the year.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Hold you, I'm actually picking up picking was good?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Was a great album? Was fired?

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I'm I mean, I really, I mean, I mean that's
a that's a tough lineup.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
That's all good music music.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
My Bias is going to Money came out this year January.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I think there their thing is that. I think it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thats X came out came out February.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
My bias is going to show here, but I A'm
gonna go clips.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I am on that list. I mean, that's definitely biased.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
I is gonna show it because to me, like as
much as I love gen X and Tyler's album, Clips
album with such a dope hip hop album front to
back right like you know, like Kendrick, gn X album
is a dope hip hop album, but it's it definitely
has a very regional sound of the West Coast sign.
I do love that West Coast sound, So I do

(54:04):
love that album. Not knocking against that album at all
and everything like that, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Think it's I don't think it's album album your material.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Because I played I played like if I'm thinking about
the two albums I listened to until Clips came out.
I was playing gen X NonStop.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I was you know what I'm saying it.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
But I also he probably got like gens probably got
like maybe three runs, three runs, maybe four like obvious
reasons for you, you know, I mean, like I mean,
but I don't. I just think like I like his
more other themed albums. Like you said, like he's a
he's a man of different varieties.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I mean that was all it was.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
I mean to me, I never had that Drake over Kadcher.
They both was just two cold people.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
To me, they both had two different styles than already
and I accepted Drake from who he was.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
I feel like you stepped out of the fight though
you got a harm.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
The bhes both stupid.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
So to continue, we'll go to the best rap album.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
So this is.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Let God sort them out. Glorious God does like ugly
gn X and Chroma Copia.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
So here's the thing. As much as I love that
glow that Glorilla album, I do think that Freddie Gibbs
should have been in that spot.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
No, I get it because Gloriala is the biggest female
artist right now, right now artist period. I'm not I'm
not disagreeing. Matter of fact, she is right now.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
She runs.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
I'll be very happy if she wins me too.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
But out of those I just I can't see anybody
else to take out of it. Besides, like, as far
as album body of work, I.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Mean, Chroma Chroma Copia is caud like Chroma co when
it even Like I said, I love clips album, but
I think it's just what it was made for us.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
You said, So it's like I feel like it's the
same kind of energy as what gn X is.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Like you're saying like it was it was made to
be like that niche of people are going to love
this album, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Say that it was.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
I mean in the best Rap album of the Year category,
I can see it being in there, but an album
of the year, but an album of the year like
I don't g n X or look on the actual
album of the year, I don't see.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
But gn X also got to think of the records
that gn X and that's that, you know what I'm saying. So,
I mean, I get what you're saying. But again, if
you're if Grammy's just looking at it just for record
wise and things like that, it crosses it. If it's
looking for cultural impact, it crosses it. If you're looking
for a cross impact.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
I mean, I mean, yeah, it's when they when they
really look at their albums. You gotta think they're not
just looking at sales, they're looking at how many people.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
That's what the embrace of g n X was low.
But it's as I said, but it was all behind
of a song though too, like you're saying, so it's like.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Not really, it was literally because because Luther was the
bigger song.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I like, remember the.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Song we really like was it the biggest song on
the album?

Speaker 7 (57:06):
You know what I'm saying, Like the song that was
supposed to be for the whole you know Drake and him,
that wasn't even the biggest song on our.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
That's the song that did yeh, Luther's design and put
it over because that's.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Up like I said, that's up for song of the Year.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
Well, I mean I can see that, like Luke, yeah, Luther,
I can see that, but I'm gonna say that was
like but I mean even in that space and I could,
I wouldn't be You couldn't tell me that impact was
really on the clips this album.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
No, that's why I said.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
That's why I said, my bias has come through for clips,
my biases for these niggas.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
Played in the Vatican, and this album was done in
the Vatican first and only rappers to ever, like I
don't even know if anybody else has performed besides like
opera singers.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
And you know what I mean, Like this is that's
that's that's that's that's a glow.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
That absolutely bad.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
If I was picking it, I'm picking I'm picking God
does like ugly. I'm picking God does like ugly. That's
the album I listened to the most.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Time that.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I'm not mad at any one of these wins.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
I just went to the concert and I'm not even
gonna knock you. I could agree it's gonna be tough though.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
That's stuff. That's what I said.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I'm not mad at anybody in that hip hop album
one list with wins.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
I'm not mad at any of those albums winning. Like
I said that to me, they all deserve that. This
is probably like in a long time. That's probably like
that list is a really solid.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I couldn't be on any of these awards though, because
like Out of Saw, the Out of Saw, to think
about the Vatican like them performed theop that is cool,
but I listened to God like that.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
That's how that's okay because that's your vote.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Like that's why it has a voter for everybody, because
everybody there, everybody has what their benchmarks is right. Some
people might look at it like you like, I mean,
does the Vatican really win you one? But some people
look at Vatican like, bro, that's the Vatican.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
You know what I'm saying. Some people look at you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
I just hope that wouldn't be the reason cause that
niggas were trying to get in Vatican, like you gotta
get in the Vatican to.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Get a Grammy. Now, exam thing you gotta think with
with Kendrick Luthor and everything like that, that gave him
the biggest hip hop selling tour ever. He's he's past
that mark right now, right, you know what I'm saying.
With that tour that him and Sissor just did. Right,
So again, it's like, all right, we got the Vatican,
we got the versus the biggest hip hop tour based

(59:32):
off of this, you know, with this album and everything versus.
And you start like you started using everybody's whatever their
benchmark is and starts and then you start putting weight
on it, what it's more and everything like that, you
know what I'm saying. You start adding thinking, okay, well
now let's look at the sales. Now, let's look at
this now, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, now,
I don't think everybody's gonna be going to the Vatican,
but that's that that's one hell of a that's one

(59:52):
hell of a bash to where to bring to the fight, Like.

Speaker 4 (59:57):

Speaker 2 (59:58):
So h then to continue best Rap Performance, which is
different from best rap songs. This is the actual rap performance.
It's got to be the actual like concert performance. Right,
But the nominees are Outside, Cardi B, Changing Whips, Clips, Anxiety, Doci,
tv Off, Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
If I'm not mistaken on stage, it's performance on the
record on the song.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
So I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Performed like that arrangement, then it's got to be. Yeah,
the performance of the song is okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So then and then the last one on that was
Darling Tyler's creator go over the sorry about that Outside,
Changing Whips, Anxiety, tv Off and Darling, I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I think I think anxiety bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
So they say in performance it was just so they
made performance as in like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
What it does to the people, so the people who
can so the work goes to the artists and maybe
just help clear it up. The producer engineering song writer
can also get the Win Winter Certificate. So to your point,
the arrangement, the arrangement of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I might I might go anxiety like as much as
I like, because they're like tv Off, look that flip
that switched, that that does go crazy and that that
was a whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
And got to think to a lot of these.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Also, you know what I'm saying, with their arrangements and
everything sparked structure the anxiety with anxieties up there though
anxiety it was that was anxiety a sample.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I don't think that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
I don't think it's arrangement. Like I said, if the producer,
I'm saying, it takes away from the effort of the
song because you just took it. You just took a sample.
You took a song and redid the song. You didn't
sample completely, you just read made it into anxiety because
it's no different than the original. So I'm thinking only

(01:01:56):
when i'm wor saying performance, not because the song is
a big song, like it might have been out of
all of those songs, the biggest song because of the
Reacher have kids and everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
But at the same time, what does she do on
that song? It would be in the range. But even
if they did use a sample or whatever, it would
be just like it was.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
It's still getting recommendations like y'all took a song and
turned it into it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
But I'm just thinking when you look at it compared
to like TV TV off was original. You know what
I'm saying, originally built Even if they did sample, but
there's no other song that when it comes on you're like,
oh wait, that's no okay, Like, that's what the thing
with exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I'm looking at the previous ones that won. Many of
these are samples, So I think I think that it's
just really that might be and somebody might be in
their voter saying the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
When it comes to the difference, it's very vague, like
what's the difference to rap song?

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
And that's why I thought it had to be an
actual person.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
Remember, I think, wasn't that an argument for Taylor Swift
and Beyond because she wrote and like played instruments.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Yeah, that's why they gave her Album of the Year
over Beyonce or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
I feel like I've heard I've heard that one before
about her playing a lot, She had a lot more,
she put a lot more, did a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
More things on the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Then the last one, obviously is rap song Anxiety, birds
Don't Sing, Sticky, t G I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
F and TV Off Crazy Sticky on this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Wow, I didn't expect that one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I would out of all those songs, birds Don't Sing
was the only rap before a rap song that made
me feel something like if I'm talking about emotional.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Birds birds sing. Got this for me because from the one.
Also just recently watched the video again, but just from
the beginning, like the way it come in with the
piano too, especially especially the second verse, like you already
went through the first verse, you done went through, didn't
take it right back to basics again. So I think, yeah,

(01:04:04):
for me, I would have picked.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
On saying the obviously bursts on saying doing that, getting
that one do. Y'all still watch the Grammys, So I
just wait till the results come out. I don't care
about none of that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
I'm a I'm old school in the sense that I
like watching performances. I am like I get enabled to
buy the performances. So if I know that there's going
to be an artist at the Grammy that's going to perform,
then I'm going to try and stay up to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Watch that performance. Uh, just because is that the only reason.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I got to like you?

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
It's the performance, Because, Uh, a Grammy stage is always
this big or right, this is big spectacles. So if
you want to get a great performance, you always want
to get a Grammy performance. So to have a Grammy
performance means a lot so that means you're gonna get
a big showcase. And I just coming up in the
era where you know you'd get a great performance at

(01:05:01):
MTV awar or BT Awards. I'm always looking for those moments,
right because you know, just growing up off of that,
that's what I want to see. So yeah, you know
that's really like I I care less about the awards.
Those are just a popularity contest. I want to see
what the artists actually like. I want to see the art.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, so I'm same. I like to see the art.
But my nostalgia reason for it. So growing up when
I was young, and I said, my mom used to
always watch all those award shows and she used to
sit there and write down all the winners.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
And now that I'm older, I know the reason why.
It's just for her to take it to work.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
This is before the internet was like right, so now
she has the conversation of all the winners and everything
like that. But I was always right there with her,
whether it was the Grammys, the Emmys, you know what
I'm saying, the Oscars, like, you know what I'm saying.
So now, when I came of age and you know,
watching the war shows myself I'm watching that same thing,
and again I don't have to write it down because
now I could be on Twitter, I could be on Facebook,
and I could be part of that. Like I still like,

(01:05:56):
like I love when I know for a fact there's
a lot of people watching the same thing and we
get to interact. You know what I'm saying. I used
to love those sundays when Game of Thrones was on
social media and you get to be a part of it.
House of the Dragons, you know what I'm saying. We
got we got them dragons, y'all. Like you know what
I'm saying. I like participating in group events and things
like that, So when it comes down to the war shows,
I still give it a watch because I like, I

(01:06:17):
just I like to be in a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
I have it on in the background usually just cause
a lot of for the same reasons, even not necessarily
being on social media with it. But most of my
friends also are watching it, so it's that same feeling,
but it's on a smaller scale.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
I mean, I like the performance.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
The only thing I really care for is to really
watch because I mean, like, like, like do say that
like a Grammy performance is like this, this is just
as planned out as you know what I'm saying most
you know, as a concert would be like yeah. So
it's like I feel like people do a lot of
great things like Kendricks and all them, They've all done
some great things during the Grammy performance. So but that's

(01:06:55):
like as far as we wins and losers, I don't
really be careing about that because a half of the
time you're gonna get irritated a BYuT something.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
If you could attend one like a wards won I was,
if you could attend one award show, so you gotta choose.
It could be any other award shows, the major award
show s's. It can be the Oscars, it can be
the Emmys, it can be the Grammys, it be the
BT Awards.

Speaker 8 (01:07:13):
I must say, I want to attend one of the
o G hip Hop Awards, like when they first my
first couple of couple of years and they were doing
the own stage live awards like the hip like the
actual BT Hip Hop Awards, like the first iteration.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
Mmmm, interesting, I mean, I was, I was, Actually I
would probably want to do the Grammys, like Gray, I mean,
because the Grammys you got it for one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
You gotta get you gotta get fly as a motherfucker too.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
You gotta get fly and then everybody gonna everybody gonna
do the food, like the perform and everything gonna be
like top tier. Like like I said, you go to
an old hip hop show, you don't know who might
niggas might not got no sets. They just treated like
it's a god deal.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
We got a party at the rain.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Also, you never know who going to fight. You might
be in the crowd, and then anything you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Know, it's.

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
Right, you sit down, You ain't know the nigga next
to you, like wear whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I think I gotta pick the Oscars. Actually, I actually
do like watching the Oscars because I use it to
look at like films that I had that was just
wasn't on my radar.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
So it fits.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Even you don't necessarily gotta be the winner, but just
for like, if if somebody said it was important enough
that it should be this prestigious, I'm like, look, I'm
not I'm interested to check it out. So I think
we were able to do that in the person, and
that'd be dope.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
What who the first person you texted once you saw
the Will Smith's lap.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I'm probably putting it in the group chat. Tell you
what it's you know, it's like a thirty second take
delay on right now. Hey, y'all got twenty five second
get to a TV some time because you're getting to

(01:09:11):
yells first. So the minute he started yelling, that's when I.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Was like this, I wonder how many nigga actually just
roll and.

Speaker 8 (01:09:26):
You had to watch you walk up like he got
up up the chairs like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You got the yelling, you got, the walk up you got.
I had some time that happened. Bro, get to a T.
I don't know what you're doing. Stop it. Get to
a T. That's exactly what I will. Smith is crashing out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So I'm kind of touring because like just like trip,
like like the ol G hip hop, like Source of Wars,
like all that hood ship.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
I would I would love to be there. I ain't
even gonna hold you right. I would want that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
However, and this goes back to my forever journey that
I have never been on. The rotating selfie thing. What's
the one that got the big the gimbal, the big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Major, the one, the guy, the guy with the long hair,
he does everybody, the glambot be the Oscar.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, I want to go to the Oscars and I'm like,
if I if I can't get the three sixty.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Bud, give me the Glambo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
So they do that order Major.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I talk about Bro him major of them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
But either way, wherever he's at, I want to get
I need to give this is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
I can't get my three six.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
What the worse shall we at?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I was missing again, like I said, well we did
it at dream Come and they was like, we're gonna
sit it and I never got that motherfucker hurt that
is for the past five years, I've been trying to
get on it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
It's more simple and ship, but I just can't get one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
I'm sure there's gonna walk around downtown on the weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
I'm sure that one I needed to be at an
event that I'm at. Where makes sense?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
You can get you downtown.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Make yourself more events because you have seen that ship everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
It's never at any events I'm at.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
It never, Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
He pisses me off. Every time you own one, man,
it takes away.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
From it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Up, pulled me crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Cool. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You better you better put a grease three sixty greens cream.
You can put you at any.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Man got a doctor one ship like no, man, that
is crazy. Oh man, bro all right, man? Uh Steam
got a console? Come, I saw you? And what's the
talking about it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
So Steam got the Steam Machine coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
The Steam Machine is a wife name se One.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
They had a Steam Machine. I think it was like
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
So everybody, So, why is the hype so crazy over
this one?

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Like this because PC gaming get is probably as close,
like close to popularity, highest popularity it's ever been. Everybody's like, Oh,
this machine, it's gonna make all the console make you
that's what I saw. I ain't gonna hold you. I
don't think they worried just yet. I think it's gonna

(01:12:25):
be a great machine. I think a lot of people
are probably going to like the idea of it. I
don't know how many of those people are going to
buy it, don't We don't know the price of it yet.
Estimates they're thinking it's gonna be about seven fifty eight hundred.
But they're also saying that this say't a high end
PC by by any means, which I can understand what
that price range. But I think it's a step in

(01:12:49):
the right direction. But a Sony or Nintendo, they gonna
be like, we want people to go to our console anyway,
so we don't care about trying to get something to PC.
And Microsoft they're the only one I can see kind
of being worried if if the rumors about their next
Xbox being a PC is true.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Oh yeah, because I feel like the Steam Machine. If
we're talking about the Xbox, yeah, and I feel like
that's what the Steam Machine is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
That's why I think the day would be worried, just
because now if they say, hey, we're a twelve hundred
dollars price point and Steam Machine comes out at seven fifty,
it's not like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
A wrestling group. They like, what are we gonna call it?

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
They could have came they could have came up with
something so much better Steam Machine. But like, if that's
seven fifty and Microsoft is saying we got a premium
machine that's twelve hundred, whereas before you can you can
be like, yeah, okay, these are premium parts whatever, blah
blah blah blah blah. Now you gotta say, well, is
it five hundred dollars worth of better than the Steam Machine?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Now, now it's a harder.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Sell, easy fix. Put some lights on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
They got some steam machine. They had a whole thing about.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
It, like we got we got all kinds of desire.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I do like the idea of being able to have
that face plate, like it's a it's such a small
thing to do for easy customization, Like the face plate
you could take off and put on other stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
Okay, but I mean they did that with any of that.
Play didn't take stuff off or whatever you can take off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
But they went as crazy as some of the design.
They didn't go as far as Steam did with their
On one of theirs, they had an e ink display
and they said granted they said they're not going to
sell it, but somebody one.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
So it's like I like that, you know, I feel
like it's just yeah, because I mean the feeling the
the Sea Machine. It's like if you had it's just
the same deck because it's a bigger you know, just
a console.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
It said the sixth time, I'm just powerful as the Steam.
Like I said, overall, I think the device is gonna
be great, especially for gaming, Like it is gonna push
PC gaming because now they got a minimum product that
they can go against.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
Yeah yeah, so like it is gonna do all of that,
Like it's just another they created a PC console in
a sense like you don't have to, like you can
just get this console and play all your PC games
and everything on it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I think, I just I think people are I ain't
gonna say grossly overestimating, but I think they are a
little bit overestimating how much of an impact that it's
gonna make right away. Like that's not gonna come out
and all of a sudden, Nintendo, so oh my god,
we are destroyed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Only like I said, after three months, depending on that performance,
then that's what be them being like oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
But again, it's really gonna be based off performance based.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
It's gonna be based off the performance, like in the
price for as great as the steam the Steam Deck
is in the I think it's been out three four years,
it's sold six million. It's great. That's that's phenomenal in
this first month.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
So it's like said I said, it depends on the performance,
because like I said, that Steam Man come out and
then let's say it sell that eight million that first one, I.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
Feel like it's not going to I think it's going
to really make that much of a damage anywhere, because
like I said, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Only to me. It's just it's a new challenge, that's all.
But it's only appealing to PC players, that's all. It
is a new challenge player. I got a PC.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
But now now that the idea is that this can
pull away some of those console gamers as you start
leaving this generation to go into the next one. So
at the PlayStation six comes out or whatever the next
Microsoft system is going to be called, instead of going
to get that, you're like, but I'm just gonna get
the Steam PC the Steam machine instead, And that could
be true, but I think it's gonna be the impact

(01:16:53):
of what it does for gaming overall versus commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
So the reason why I think it is exactly what
you said, and it goes back to what we was
talking about when were talking about the Xbox PC hybrid.
I said, there's a lot of people who look at
just the ease of transfer like a transfer right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
So again, PC gaming, even though there's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Companies that you can say I just need this and
there to do this, it's still a you gotta tell
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
You got to figure out what you need right where.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
If you if this console says this is a PC console,
and I'm already used to console gaming, the ease of
me just saying, well, I'm just gonna pick this up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I don't have to know anything about computers.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
I don't have to know anything about specs, and that's
what So like, you know, I play I play games
with a lot of just console only people, right, And
that's that was their pill. They was like, man, I've
been wanting to get into PC gaming. I'm gonna just
get the theme that, right, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what that's where it's going to grab people
who want to get into PC gaming. They don't want
em and they don't want to have to go through
the whole. Like I said, it's it's very simplified because,

(01:17:49):
like I said, you can go to the geek squad
to say I want to play this type of game,
I need this, and they'll put it together for you.
But again, you still gotta go there's an extra step,
you know what I'm saying, And people don't. People just
want to be able to I can just buy I plug. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
That's that's why I think it's gonna be good for
gaming overall, because you are gonna get a ton of
people who are very curious about PC gaming but like
you said, I don't want to build a computer. I
don't want to have to go find the right pre
built it's here. But I don't know, And this is
sort of what I was saying and when we were
talking about it. I don't know how much a PlayStation

(01:18:23):
gamer cares about that. I know for a fact Nintendo
gamers don't care about that. But how much do those
players care? I don't even know how much a Microsoft player,
like someone who is solely Microsoft, they might not care,
so they're they're more liable.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
You care, You're you're not gonna care.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Well, the thing here's where the peak interest has been happening,
where I can see Sony players that I've been technically
pure Sony right. However, what even made me start even
looking into a Steam deck and everything? It's just seeing
all the different Steam game with the streaming in streaming
in the streaming world, Steam games seem like to be
the most fun lately because because it's it's the most

(01:19:01):
it's easy, and it's the most random ideas, you know
what I'm saying, right? Where so where I might watch
like when I was watching you play the uh Shift
at midnight at midnight, right I'm just like, man, I
ain't got ship like that on PlayStation, right, And I'm like,
fucking let me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
You know, I got this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
You know I can play Steam games on this on
this laptop. Let me play it more, right, Yeah? And
it made me say, you know what, let me invest
in uh, you know, my like life. Literally because of
watching you on Twitch, I literally started trying to build
my Twitch set so I can not until I can
play with the already PlayStation games, so I can play
the Steam games, right yeah. So I can see somebody
who's also in my same room, where like I'm more

(01:19:40):
console console console and I've only been PlayStation. But I'm like, yo, man,
somebody streamers playing some fun ass games that I want
to play. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Where that is, that is where the interest for a
Sony player is more fomo.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
It's more like, man, I like, these games look fun,
but also I'm missing out on mad Ship because I'm
only sticking to this Sony console right, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
And having an era of streaming, I can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
So that's that's where I can see Sony players like
the ones who want to expand, Like if you're only
a two K player or GA player and you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
A single a single player game play.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
I'm using those.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
That's because like it's like just like to put in
a vision, like there's certain people who only play like
two K and Madden, right, they don't have and they
don't really have any desire to play any of those
additional games or anything like that. I can see them saying,
I'm just sticking with Sony because you know what I'm saying.
But for those who do like to explore a little bit,
and you know what I'm saying, play different type of games,
that's where that pill can come from. Like you know what,

(01:20:36):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I can't get these type of games on PlayStation. There's
no Steam market on PlayStation.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
That's how I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I said.

Speaker 6 (01:20:42):
I feel like I said, if you're a console gamer,
you really would just be getting it because you just
want something else to play.

Speaker 7 (01:20:47):
Like I think it'll only help, well only I think
it'll help more for the serious at home streamer gamer
as a person who probably I started my or whatever
I'm doing as a console guy, and I know that
the audience is bigger, you know, if I get a
Steam deck, so then or a Steam machine that might

(01:21:09):
be where a real appeal comes from.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Wait, let's let's let's discuss this. I agree what I agree?
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
I actually believe all sports games she was real to play. Yeah,
that's bro, that's an old schood. I did that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:24):
I really could have got behind years ago because the
DC would be always like I would never have to
lose VC or I would never have to lose any
of my achievement.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
And you know what, and and you know what it
was because at some point I would I want to say,
two K sixteen probably would be the last time that
they really did anything innovative with two K. That would
have been the team the last time they did it
anything innovative with the two K, Like you know what
I'm saying. And that's the thing is like you know,
for the most part, were just paying for a roster

(01:21:53):
update in the new game, and so you know what
I'm saying. So it's just like, if you make it
free to play, let me create my player, you know said, shit,
let me Now my character also has legacy stats, So
now I can have stats that I can continue to
you know, if I want to build or everything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
That's what like I didn't buy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
I didn't buy College Football twenty six because I was like,
I don't I don't play it online. I really just
have a dynasty. What do I care about knowing that
arch Manning is ninety four? Now I'm already and I'm
already five years in my dynasty on college football twenty
five Like arch man ain't even in school on my dynasty.
Why do I care about that?

Speaker 7 (01:22:29):
I think that's the problem all of the games that
we really don't think about, Like unless you are a
person who never plays past one year, right now, that
should matter, right, Like all the achievements, all the ratings,
everything changes anyway, you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
With the funny thing about it, the only time I
played past a year and even in general, is that
I've either I've been playing it so much that now
I'm just like I'm waiting for the next game to
come out, oh then, or I'm playing until I can
get the next game.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Sometimes I don't buy it on lunch, so I'm like,
what should I still want a hoop?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
So let me just go ahead and plays four season
college football.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I I don't always want to play it, but there
are days I'm like I just want to sit back,
chill and play some football. And so I'll play like
four or five games in my dynasty. I'm in I'm
literally in near five.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
That's no point because I have days like that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
You just playing this to throw the football. But here's
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
But the reason why it should be the name, But
the reason why it should be the updates, like they say,
because after a while, let's say you're doing your dynasty
and everything like that, right, I mean in general, after
a while, certain of those stars played. So now it's
all these creative players that you're playing against. And I'm
just like, I'm like, it's cool because I'm still you know,
I'm you for you're playing football for me. I'm still hooping.

(01:23:40):
But I'm just like, bro, who the fuck is Samuel
Johnson on the on the Lakers, that's the MVP of
the Lakers. Like bro, Like, no, but give me some
of the new people. And then now I can download
a roster. But it's just a creative player. So now
their face still looks like created me, you know what
I'm saying, don't look like the actual you know what
I'm saying, player in the actual league. And it's just
like they got to figure that out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
It feels like, I don't get how that's not a
more popular right there, because one, I gotta imagine it's
it's way less development costs, like I have to imagine
that it is. And two, you're probably gonna get a
ton more people if you say if you said, hey,
twenty twenty six rosters are twenty five dollars, you know,
you get all these little updates and stuff, but twenty

(01:24:23):
twenty six rosters is twenty five dollars, I guarantee you
getting a.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Ton of people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
And I say all that, and I just realized two
K twenty six is the best say selling game of
the year, So maybe that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
That's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:24:34):
That's why I did forget why my money they still
making Baker and you gotta work thinking about the licensing
deals that they have with everybody throughout the entire game,
you know, Jordan, the different NBA players, So they got
to figure out way to make that money back every year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
That's why I say that they should just really lean
into more of the stories, like give us at least
make it interesting, because that's it. That's one of the
thing like, I'm a person and I do play in
my career. Tell people I played on the first year.
That's what I'm saying, Like, give us more than just
one year of a story, and then, you know what
I'm saying, like, give us at least make the journey

(01:25:11):
a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
See, that's what they did, was you gotta play and
you can retire. Yeah, it's like a bunch of different
yea seeds, but you got to do you don't like
you know, because here's even the small thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
First during the first season, so this season lasts to
two K twenty six right out of two K twenty five.
I didn't see two K twenty six. Yeah, but two
K twenty five. The last one of the things that
they was leaning into was they had a podcast aspect, right,
so in between you had these people. You can keep
that going off for random clips throughout multiple seasons. But
after that first season, it didn't remember the other one

(01:25:46):
I was telling you about when I was beefing with
Kendrick Perkins. That was a one season thing and then
even randomly every now and she was like, Bro, what
the heck? You know what I'm saying, like, Bro, give
us more heavy lines, heavy storylines, man, And like I said,
with the Dynasty, I like the dnasty like they got
to my my GM mode the Dynasty mode, right, they
give you a little bit of back in to work on,

(01:26:07):
you know what I'm saying when you're like doing like
front office ship and things like that. But again, that
story doesn't even go back. I'm like, bro, this is
a Dynasty stopping situation. I'm like, let's continue, like at
least change the commentary up. At least have the commentaries
talk about like, oh, yeah, they got the rookie from Like,
give me something that makes me feel like I'm actually
in the season. I mean, they could do a season
two like that's what like a DLC, like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
A DLC. But like, have any of y'all been playing Dispatch?
Have y'all been seeing all this stuff about that I
want to I want to play.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
I was just to say that that's kind of what
they need to do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Yeah, they're supposed to go twok, but the middle.

Speaker 7 (01:26:44):
Of the scenes, you know what I'm saying, Because then
you can choose like I forget what year it was,
I think it was like nineteen or twenty, but remember
you could choose, uh, their responses and that would dictate
oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Yeah, how your career would go.

Speaker 7 (01:26:57):
Yeah, Like I feel like they should just get back
to that. I don't know why they keep stripping that out.
There's just so much of the most like entertaining pers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Somebody show like it was like two K seven or
two K eight, right like way back then, like bro,
the players used to be on the court having convo
like you know what I'm saying, Like like there used
to be like little small cut scenes and ship like that.
They used to like you know, there was one Rember
when when remember when Bosh popped up on Lebron That
was actually in the game. If you played on the

(01:27:25):
heats for for a while, there would be You'll be
doing You'll be talking, your character will be talking to
Doris Perks, and Bosh will pop up behind you like
like like they used to have stuff like that in
the game, and they took all that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I feel like to your point you said doing a
dispatch style DLC every season where it's like it's I
don't know how much dispatch costs to make, but I
guarantee if you're doing that, let me see how much
they selling it for.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
I dispatch is like a ten too game. But that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Even still, but if you do something like that to
say this is this is the stuff off the court,
in your in your my player.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Season's saying that, like you can for those who maybe
who don't want all that extra stuff, just make it
a tackle thing. Yeah you want do you want.

Speaker 7 (01:28:08):
To merc of story or not more combat? Does it perfectly? Yeah,
you basically do the movie and then you just do
the fights.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
So you could do a career, just do the game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
You can turn off the cut scenes, you can go
straight down fights, That's what I'm saying. So you can
do that to a piece of everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, and it's like dispatch is thirty dollars, so you
could easily say that's what your DLC is to get
this seasons, this season's package, or you're getting all the
cut scenes and stuff for this season, all updated rosters.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
I'm trying to interview you know all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
I feel like that would be.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
Hard work though there because I mean, I feel like
because I mean, I think I think we also do
because I agree that it should be free to play,
but I think that we also got to realize too
that they you it can't be.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
It's not free because you're paying for the DLC roster.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
You're paying for the storyline.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
Like you still gonna have to pay for your shoes,
all the extras.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
They're gonna still make money. You still have all the
micro transactions.

Speaker 7 (01:29:06):
Get the ship that they've been taking out of the
game all the time for no reason because there was
this type of you know, storyline in the my players.

Speaker 6 (01:29:15):
But I mean I think that then, I mean because
then in the since and the only way I say
this is because of that when you think more into
it is because it's like if I if I download
the NBA two K for free and then get none
of the DC ship, I'm not gonna play with a
lot of you're saying like you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Because all you're gonna get is roster has to you
gotta you're gonna have to base it around roster have
to be free or even if or.

Speaker 6 (01:29:41):
Even if you were doing like let's say we're adding
new moves or a new ice or whatever like that
that may change this whole character's model.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
But they do that now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
They got in two K.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Now they do it like right now, like saying you'll
you'll two K start and then later on you'll be like,
all right, we got the Tyres Haliburton pack. Now you've
got all this layups is over and everything. You gotta
pay for that with the v C. And then later
on down the road they may be like, oh we
got ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Seven Kobe pack.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
We got you know what I'm saying, Like they they
put out different packs for players with move sets and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Now, so then that I didn't know that part that
changed everything. I was gonna say, you gotta get that free.
So they already sitting there, you're getting.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Shot like this is the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
They start you off with a decent selection players that
you can choose. Yeah, but reality is all the killers
you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Bro even even active bro. Even active like like Shan Yellis.
Shane Yellis, he had a whole pack that released probably
like five months within the city.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
They are getting over way worse than I.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
At least I do think roster you like, if you
were to go that route, roster you gotta make free
because like if a player go to a new team,
all the incoming rookies, you just say this is your
base update where you know, now the Lakers. Now you
know Cooper Flag is in the league. Those are your
base updates.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
You get.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
All of the extra stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Apparently even you're really getting, like your updates, you're paying
for it really is like let's say I read let's
say the stats raised or lowered or like you said,
all of a sudden, this niggas is doing high.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Fighting the stats stuff they do for free already, and
the roster updates they do for free up But here's
the thing, they sunset it once the new game comes out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
So you just you can just keep that going and
then it is okay, cool, But Shade changed his shot
over the off season.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
You gotta pay for that new shot, That's what I'm saying.
But they're doing that now, so like what they doing,
Like that's what I was thinking. So I'm like, but
I mean, I guess, like for me, I feel like
what two K should always have done. I feel like
the park should it should have went free.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
World, just like that should have been a free to
play and the But in basketball, two K has just
been in the basketball the story mode whatever. Play a season.
But even if you make a character in to you
can bring that character to the free to play.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
But that's the thing, that's is what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:32:02):
That's how that's how they got us because at first
none of this ship was like all that ship was awards,
like real awards. You played a certain amount of games
that gave this stuff to you. You were able to
unlock it. Now you have to spend VC to get it,
which they're doing that because you're my player. Player is
the same guy as your park player.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
Can't you still playing? You know he's the earned v c.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
W.

Speaker 7 (01:32:27):
The thing is, your play is different, Rick player is
different than your park. You gotta say, like your players different,
your my player because he's your my player, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
So you can't there don't if you don't get the
boosts and all other ship out here in the park
or in the wreck.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
He tracked two ks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
Making that money because I was in I'm in season
three of my two K my career mode right two sick, No,
I don't got I didn't get.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
To get to this is yet. Okay, okay, so I'm
a so so my my player is at like ninety
ninety seven right now.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Right on there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
You can't import him like even no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
He's in there he's I play on the part, but
it's not I have I have not invested in playing
online in the park, So my character is contract.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
No, I'm saying, And I guess this part isn't surprised
me because I'm pretty sure college football didn't do it either. Well,
college football's only four years, so it makes sense. But
you can't like, all right, you'll do it from two
K to twenty five. When you buy twenty six, you
got it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
You gotta start back over, gotta read.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Even if you say like, hey you can, you can
have on it, but your stature diminished. We're gonna knock
you down to seventy five.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
I would I would like that, but no, we look like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Generation playing it one year now you might be thinking
think Live. I'm talking about like way you got early
two K.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
That's what say. You might be taking the college going
to like the college games used to let you import
into madd end which I don't even I didn't buy
Madden twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
That such cold, That was such a cold feature.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
That was because also that you had that n C
double A and Live did it where you play like
as matter of fact, two K did it for a
while too, said they got away from that two K.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
Two K two K used to put out their prequel.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Able to get them be able to get the college
prequel of two K, and it'll be seven games or
eight games, but you play that as and that will
determine how your character starts. You can start off with
a boost, or you can start off very, very big,
and you'll be able to transfer. You'll be able to
import that character into the new two K. They took
away all the fun ship.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I thought that was still, Like I said, I just
I don't be buying two K, so I just I
assumed that was all still there. That K coming from Pockets.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Film, it's a lot of fun ship.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Man, the biggest rip off, the addicted thing. We're gonna
play it, the live falling off as the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
They got competition, they got no license or they just.

Speaker 7 (01:35:08):
That's why everybody else would come out the image. They
got the image license, but they can't use their image.
That's why everybodys looking stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
That's crazy, super random.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
So the other day I was watching on Samsung TV,
as I do sometimes when I'm editing. They was playing
some Jackie Chan stuff. Right, The physics in Jackie Chan's
movies needs to be studied at some point. Bro, he
was on that ledge and he was literally like.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Not palling.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
What movie was that? Yeah, but even when you see
things and I get it, you know, we talk about
like it's kung fu. They always defy the laws of
gravity and everything. But Jackie Chan, he's definitely pushed that
living Bro.

Speaker 8 (01:35:57):
You know, they just opened up the category to allow
stump people to get I think it was an Oscar.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
Oh, that's dope about time.

Speaker 8 (01:36:05):
Yeah, but it's like, you know, Jackie Chan and Tom
Cruise and doing their own stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:36:09):
They better get him, like they better get lifetime awards,
better get award named Yeah, start till twenty seven, they
better get like I said, you know what I'm saying because,
like I said, Jackie chad oh also plug him out.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
What was the name?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
My interview again, Michael James Shaw. He said that that
was all him in the adventures. He said he had
to fight for that what in the Advengers. So you know,
he he he was Corbus and so he remember he
he pretty much fought every adventure. He remember because when
Cat remember when Cap came back and it came out
the shadow. That was him fighting it. But he was

(01:36:42):
saying that they they wanted stunts, doubles for everybody, and
he had to push he wanted to do it hisself.
Oh yeah, Thanos has adopted son, but his right in
the hand, whatever the case. Yeah. But yeah, so he
pretty much he pretty much fought everybody because he remember
he was the one that put the killing blow on

(01:37:03):
uh on vision before Thanos took the bust of name
out of them Uh. Again. He fought against Black the
Black Widow Captain America, like he thought. He fought so
many people in Avengers. But yeah, he was saying that, yeah, yeah,
and he was saying that that they want. He was like,
I had to push for it, you know what I'm saying,

(01:37:24):
to let me do the stunts. And I was like, bro,
that's crazy. Like he was really jumping around, flipping around
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Bro, Like you really wanted to do all that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
But a lot of actors do, a lot of actors
want to do their own stunts. So, like I said,
but again, so those that they better give them a
lifetime awards when they when they come down to that.
But all right, man, one last music question. I wanted
to ask y'all because again and this was on my
list to again from way back with UH when I
did my interview with director X do you do y'all
got a favorite music video? Like if you got to

(01:37:56):
go back and think about music videos that you guys like,
you guys love, probably be the roots Eric, Oh, that's one. Yeah,
that was probably the dopest video. Whenever I think about
just if I want to do a video like that's
that would be like mine. That Missy Elliott Socker to
Me video always stands out to me because I probably

(01:38:18):
because I love Mega Man and just kind of like
when they went that they did went went that whole
route with that video, but like a sleeper in one
of the videos that like back in the day when
Missy and Temple and this is gonna be a lot
of Missy because Missy for me is up up there
with music videos.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
But they had a they had an artist by the
name of Mocha and she had a song called hit
Him with the Heat.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
That video it was just like it was just like
this darkness. It kind of like the Gargoyles, but it
was like the way it was shot, it was really
dope and then current that. You know what I used
to love about their music videos back in the day
is that all their collectives used to be in the
music video, like that used to be within their crew. Right,
So remember when Timberlin and Magoo was rocking and it
was Missy it was a leah, it was genuine. You

(01:39:03):
know what I'm saying. They all in the video.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
But then also up jump, No, it's not love to love.
You did the whole clue thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I was thinking about beat it that's that beat. But
for me, it's like burying girl that because how many
people were in that video. And I loved the third video.
Everybody like where where the is Michael? Everybody looking around
and then at the end it's just him behind the DIRH. Y'all,
y'all did my video for me?

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
All Right, we can cut it like that's good Michael Jackson,
but I feel like you got to exclude him because
he gonna win the Smooth Criminals. Amazing, Like when I
think about the technicalities and everything that went into that video,
I am. I am amazed that the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
First five videos that came to my rod all different
Michael Jackson videos.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
So that's why music, I said, music videos I said,
I didn't really give your favorite music video.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
So let's let's exclwe Michael Jackson. Okay, exclude Michael Jackson.

Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
I feel like Michael Jackson gonna win easily because I
thought it was just kind of like we were talking
hip hop, but you're talking all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Keep so let's let's let's do let's do hip hop
is just hip hip hop. I mean, I was probably
your favorite hip hop was a good I mean bust
and rhymes. I was a huge fan of.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Was like that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Video scary.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Know you're thinking of the other one. I'm thinking of
what's the way we turned to the monster the Fish video.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Yeah, I mean that was that was give me some
he did talking about the way he was in the world.
The little it was like, give me some more. Was
he was in the jump some other that's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Uh, that's it, that's it, That is it. I had
the course I can name the song that's really want
to party with me?

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
That video, got that video.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
I was terrified watching that video.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
And then they come to America video. Yeah, that part
was in there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
The fish he had he turned to the monster part.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
No, no, we got it wrong. It's the background. Give
me some is the one put your hands with the
eyes and sees is the other one. We gotta switch.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
So he had it right, give me some, Give me
some with the little kid monster. Okay, that's the one. Okay, yeah,
give the fish iyes.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
It was the monsters that was also like six.

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
So I was like going on, But put was one
of my I mean because of the beat and everything,
but just they doing during that time. I came to
America and that was cold like that video was cold like.
But and then yeah, like I said, give me some
moldy one of mine. But like I said, Buster Rhys
was always damn.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
I mean, it's this, this is a tough question.

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Somebody was talking about the ridiculousness y'all remember the puff
Daddy and God. Yes, yes, I talked about that all
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
With the.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
Put them on nigga and the nails came out that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Nigga faced off against God's.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Man, I mean, handly by itself. If I have to
show my age, he literally had. He just wanted to
put spikes in tim.

Speaker 6 (01:42:26):
Or Yeah, show my age. It would definitely have to
be that are still those are still regards. My two
favorites is Adam Stanley groove okay, and the Fat Boys.
They did Freddy Freddy uh Freddy rap when it was
running through I forget.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
I think it was Mary on My Street. I think
so street like because of those even.

Speaker 6 (01:42:53):
For those are two of my favorite movies, and I
can say, you know, we don't get that no more.
Were a lot of movies and videos that's like attached
to a movie to give you that in the movie
feel like Adams Family. Adams Family was called.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
Right, but so was what was joint. But you know
what's funny. But I remember the videos, I remember the video,
I remember the performance.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
But to Baccarty's point, like and this is like on
a on a like crazy level on how it got integrated.
But like that Jay Z and Foxy Brown Ain't No
Nigga video, it literally looked like it was part of
how to be a player. Like it literally looked like
that part where he was running out with switching the
girls like they were just on the like out there
wrapping on the other side of.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
But so that was a good that was a good integration.
I'm trying to think, because yeah, Missy and Buster got
to me some of the best hip hop music, sure,
but again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
You know, I'm gonna go appere nostalgia and I'm gonna
go take me there because I love the Rugrats movie
and that video.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Video. But you know, we know always takes me a
while out of that because all right, for the hip
hop hands who know about hip hop beef and everything
like that. Like I said, when jay Z was beefing
with Mace, he was also beefing with all of Harlem world,
and that take me there was Maya in Harlem world,
and then you know what I'm saying. And then Mace's brother,
Blinky Blink, which I got an unreleased song somewhere on

(01:44:22):
my hard drive with Blinky Blink, got shot out that cannon,
and so jay Z on my right remix when he
was dissing Mace and them, he told him, he said,
you think niggas were shooting your fat ass out of
cannons before? And so now I just always when I
think about taking me there, I just think about Blinky
Blink and shout out the cannon and jay Z using
that as a bark.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
And that's that video.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
That music video was just pure nostalgia for me, just
because I remember, like I said, I love the rug
Rats movie and it was just I remember the first
time I saw it, I was like, Yo, they got
the rug Rats set. This is great, this is the
greatest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
That's a really good one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
The obvious reasons they say, it all falls out everybody
in the choke, the flat ray here on some pure
hip hop ship. That was my ship.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
The remix, the remix, the black and white. I mean,
but even in that space, and I would have to
go with canvas time for three to one.

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
That video.

Speaker 8 (01:45:26):
Yeah, they took over the neighborhood. Actually he did, he
Bro he had.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Run, he did, he did bro problems with listen till
this day, I still want to give me a shiny soup.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
The Touching video. It's simple, but I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
The Remix of the Regular, the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Remix, of course because the remix, the remix had everybody one,
it was only it was color coded. And then where
it was. I love how like bright it was when
everybody rapping calm. But then when they when they go crazy,
the lights the lights start going and moving.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
You know what, y'all tripping broke.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
That's why I was taking y'all, y'all the whole so
I was talking about howardus Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
Had no it was gold tank. It was a gold tank.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
There was a going on making sad. I knew he
did it before, but there was a gold.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Tank making ship.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Yeah, Bro, somebody somebody was really just talking about how
ridiculous that video was.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
That was like, what was the treatment for this video?

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
It was like there was in a court, random people
dunking a gold tak in the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Whole bunch of people on social fatigued.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Like a lot of ship in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Yeah, this video was asked this question online, and I'm
glad none of y'all went throughout that that online went
they went off freaky video. Somebody was like disco Inferntal, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
It was Twitter effort.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
It was a Twitter conversation, so I knew it was
going on.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
I was the cut, Yeah, because I was talking about
like the aesthetics, like like when I that DMX What's
my Name? Video? I used to always look, that's one
of my favorite DMX videos just because of just rugged.
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 6 (01:47:10):
Anthem in general, Like I would have loved to have
just been outside like that ship would have been probably
would have been cracky.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
I like, next question one of my videos that pitched
y'all off.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
I don't remember that video off. I don't remember. Just
think I'm trying to think. Actually a really good question
to think about video.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Like where you what the song? And you're like, bro,
what the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
But I tried to think about I was thinking about it,
like if I was watching it, what's the show?

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
The TV show that's the rock?

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Yeah? Yeah, like video.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Put it in the comments because you brought that up
for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
What video is it for you? You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:47:53):
You know a video I think was for me back then,
chingy Holiday? I expected more, okay, you know what I mean?
Like my thing was like when people did videos like
especially like remember like, uh what was the niggas with
Anthony Hamilton and them?

Speaker 8 (01:48:10):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (01:48:11):
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:48:14):
They was in the country, So you are okay you
expected Yeah, I can see what you fucking cast y'all
out here in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
This thing is like, where the funk.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Are you at?

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
You sixteen birdl the Holiday?

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
That song is ridiculous looking back at I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Trying to think a lot of song iculous. That's a
video that pissed me off. I'm trying to think or
uh the bedrock, Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I love a song I did not like. I did
not like the music video video. I did not like it.
Like bro oh that video, that video was That video
for that scene totally does piss me off.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
That is fair video.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
That's that is my name is yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
Oh yeah, just for that scene alone. Oh yeah, but
you know what I like? That didn't piss me off
that that scene I was like, but if like for
what the song was, and it fit perfectly for the song,
I think it's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
To see it because heard the song already see a video.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
Like you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Now every time the video come on, you know this
scene coming. So no, I agree with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
I'm trying to see if anybody can say something, No, thog.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Song, crazy video video?

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
What's so crazy about that video? What's so crazy about
that video is when you realize like he just doing
to see the throng, that's all you want to say.
He just wants.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
To take it off.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Oh you know what for the for the old school
jay Z fans, jay Z Sunshine video, because that for
everything that you know about jay Z. If you want
to see jay Z completely out of his element. That's like, bro,
what the fuck is this like that video? That video
was trash.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
I'm trying to think of another one.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
I don't know why. A lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:50:46):
I did not like phenomenon. That was terrible. The paradise
was the paradise.

Speaker 8 (01:50:51):
So when he come up out the waterfall with the bucket, hate.

Speaker 14 (01:51:02):
The one leg up, Hello, do a lot of ll
do a lot of because I'm still the gift of
him at the game looking down his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Bro, I'm just like brod Bertie, just mad. Bertie just
posted this picture in broad daylight with the chick on
the bens.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
L directed every movie video he was director.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
I fully agree with you a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Llo got a lot of weird sleepers on it. Nobody
ever brings up about coolch that I like. And the
video was actually decent, and because it went with the
movie was shut him down.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
Shut I shut him down?

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
He was and some day he went crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:51:51):
Embarrassing theory that I like to go back to is
I feel like Headsprong was really made for will Smith
and he didn't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Sounds like Ellie, like who called you called you big?

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
They called me big? Big? Willie gets sills that would
be a big willy line is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Big.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
I never heard this theory.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
I fully believe it, not just off that anything.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
I've never heard this theory. But that makes sense because
no one's ever heard nobody. Nobody never called himself that,
nobody saying no for real man, we call him big Ellie,
bro who rot.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
Ain't your name? Cool ladies like big big ladies, big lady.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
And we do know that Will Smith likes to get
a little ball.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
He wrote it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
I didn't talk like somebody right, No, but here's the thing.
It could have been something they need to wrote from
Will Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
Will and Will Smith denied this.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
Will Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
And then turned around and gave him swis. Here's what's
Here's exactly what happened. Because we can't disrespect Ello cool Jay.
He is a writer, he is a rapper. Right, here's
what possibly potentially happened. This No, this is but I
still believe he does things. This is what happened. Timberland
was like, I got a song for Will Smith. Will
Smith's like, bro, I can't. I don't got time to

(01:53:28):
write it. Don't worry about it. Let me get you
the best writer to write it. I got Llo cool
Ja to write it and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
Then whatever happens, and whatever it happened, will Will Smill.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Was like, I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
And then Timberland is like, bro, this is a hit,
and he told and then he told Llolja, hey man,
this is a hit.

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
Just changed the Willie to Ellie and had it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
I feel like l came by and he was like,
what's that feed someone putting together the WIW. I can
pitch your tip doing this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
He like, man, they called me big will it selling
your thing? Like man, eating this up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
I got this, I got this whole verse, woman and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
James, it was like, I got it. We didn't want
to take out that will. They call him big.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Big Ellie is crazy. Big Ellie is insane. When you
listen like that switch, it's like it's damn near the
same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Like yeah, like now he said, like that that threw
me off, Like I really, I really hope I get
to have a day in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:54:37):
I meet l q U. I'm gonna call Big you,
but you got called from Big before I even introduced
myself to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
Don't do that. That ain't gonna call security on.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
You.

Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
No, no, gonna be his god from We're gonna start
seeing Maccardia Llow cool out here in these strings.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Bro.

Speaker 14 (01:55:01):
Now they're gonna have they gonna have doctor videos and
the Cardi.

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
Back in the many big Ellie twitter post. I got
that new big Elly.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
You know how you know how they were saying, how
mall Caunda make no bias decisions about Drake. You're gonna
start saying for Cardi's gonna say nothing, you know, top five.
I just want to say, I feel like l Wood,
they should be a big lady, big lady.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Did y'all know Carry Hilton did the cover of this?
I did what heads from Justin Timberlake of.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
The same song.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
It's a cover cover, but Justina called me big Carry.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
That's what it saying.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
That's crazy. Oh man, let's give it a recommendation. Let's
get it we go.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
That's crazy, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
So I don't know if I felt this hitting Jim
or event if y'all watch this, I don't know if
y'all brows do Netflix as much as I do, but
I felt this.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
I don't know if it's classified this Korean drama or
Asian druma. I don't know, but it's kind of it's
shot just like how squid Games is right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
I didn't know it at the point at the time,
but it's called Billionaire's Bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
This sounds familiar.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Yeah, bro, the show has so.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Many twist and turns, so it's pretty much fall out
right right to the imagine fallout, but not necessarily. You're
just imagine that the entity behind it they have a
Spanish it's Spanish.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Crazy. Wow, Wow, you said it was an Asian.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
I just assume, you know, because here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Here's the thing when I see an overdub I just
assume is that because they had they had they had
they had a lot of Asian people within the cast.
So I was like, but anyways, right, but like so

(01:57:48):
imagine like the entity, it's just like, all right, we
want to we want to get we want to bleed
the billionaires of their money.

Speaker 4 (01:57:57):
So we need to convince them that the world is ending.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
And we're convinced them that the world is ending, and
we're gonna but they got we got a bunker, and
they're going to buy into our bunker. But our whole
thing is convincing them that the world has ended. So
they go through this whole disaster scenario. They kind of
like they doctor some situations where it's like, all right,
let's say I tell Ditch about it, but I really
want to give Carti's money, right, but I'm planning the

(01:58:22):
seed to you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
So you're telling them so now, m so.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
That way, it don't sound like it's coming from the person.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
So now we're waiting for real, live events that things
that happen. But then we're just doctoring the news that
you see slightly to say, oh no, this shit is
actually about to blow over. We're about to go into
nuclear war. Right. So then now when you're talking to
a party and you're like, yo, hey man, somebody had
told me about this bunker. And then you're seeing strategically
some of your neighbors moving with big luggages, and you're like,

(01:58:49):
not everybody knows about this, but I do.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
And so now you tell you convincing the party like hey,
I need you to come with me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
You know what I'm saying, because hey, there's some shit
going down, and it made that And but now the
news that you're hearing and the news that they're feeding you,
it seems like the war's happening, right. And then when
you when they get everybody in the bunker that they're
that they're they're trying to get.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Then they create this this disaster scenario.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
The only the screens that that you see is the
screens that they that they are, you know saying, cause
they control. So you're seeing people talk about the war
when you're going there. The radio that there's on the
helicopter or whatever is being fed to you. It's all
about this this impending you know, this uppending nuclear war.
And then when you get in the bunker, you hear
the nuclear bombs go off. And then they even doctor
they get the world best director to show you, you

(01:59:33):
know what I'm saying something like because you know, because
they need people, they need people to really feel like it, right.
So they're like, all right, we're gonna get the world
best directors. And some of the people that are like
quote unquote the billionaires are a part of the team.
So they're like, we're gonna go out there and see
if there's if there's if it's livable out there. They
go out there, think about like James Gunn or bucking
you know, saying, Steven Spielberg put on this production that

(01:59:55):
you're watching, the geta this live footage of what's happening
out there, But it's really a movie. So now you
see somebody end up getting burnt. And then he's like, oh, yes,
Dave Man, we gotta put him in the I c
U for now. And now you're like, Bro, I ain't
even going out there. You know what I'm saying, because
I just saw what happened. Bro, the twisting terms in
this movie I made, this series.

Speaker 4 (02:00:16):
Is crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
I said what I said, Bro, I don't even know
what this I don't even know how I even stumbled
upon that.

Speaker 6 (02:00:21):
That motherfucker was So it just came on long because
it was It's been on my my homepage for a while.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Now. I didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
I gotta I gotta show you the home page. I
got to show you the picture they used my homepage
and to make it even funnier, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
All that for the buildings, it's all so they didn't
they didn't give it to me in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
And then hold on, you said you had another one.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
Yes, it was dammit. What it was a documentary about.
It's like the world's greatest heightst.

Speaker 6 (02:00:54):
Documenting on the word's greatest heights. I'm trying to think about.
I don't know what I got really recommend.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Uh, honestly, I didn't even playing nothing new.

Speaker 4 (02:01:05):
Biggest Heist Ever.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
It's a documentary on Netflix called Biggest Heist Ever. So
it's a crypto, crypto scringt scheme heist. Everything this is
this most must have recently just happened because it was.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
All around that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
But these two individuals, you would have not you would
not think that they would. They did it like like
one the chick was an influencer trying to make it right,
you know what I'm saying. Like, but it's like she
was like a good influencer, like she did like quirky
shit shit that's like. And so when the when the
whole crypto thing happened. And these are pretty like eclectic,
eccentric type of people, so they're like like whenever I

(02:01:41):
called on to them, they was like, bro, this there's
no way that she's doing like she's doing family challenges
on TikTok and shit like that, everything like that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
So they didn't believe it and everything like that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
But then when you start getting into it, you start
peeling back the layers. You realize that the husband, his
dad was a famous hacker. The husband knows about all
these tech things and everything thing and Bro, they started
up a whole front company only to have all these
fake employees. Wonder if you like bank heist, if you
like heist documentaries or anything like that, that one definitely
feeds everything about it, like it's a really good, great

(02:02:13):
heist documentary on there. And then lastly, like I told you,
I got three and I think I feel like one
of y'all might have recommended this anime. But one I
realized that there's a Crunchy Road channel now on Samsung TV.
Like the bro, they Samsung TV keep on evolving and
adds way more. Right, So I was watching the Crunchy
Road Channel and they showing this anime called The Emergence

(02:02:36):
of Shadow.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
I recommend this that before Brood.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
So being at y'all saw the scene that got me
because I first had it all and I was like,
all right, we'll just watch it whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
Like that, they was fighting and the nigga came through
the motherfucking top.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Of the glass and came through and I said, WHOA
that intro was like his intro was so cold. Yeah,
I said, so I've been watching that, Bro. I'm on
episode five right now. Bro, the imminence of Shadows bro
that that that's a bit.

Speaker 4 (02:03:11):
So those are my three recommendations.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
I'm gonna recommend Where Winds Meet. I've only played about
an hour of it so far, but it's it's it's
a good time. It's it's free to play, so obviously
they're not trying to get their money back to like
the customizations and stuff like that, but early just playing it,
it reminds me of how Warframe does free to play,
and I've talked about war Frame so many times how

(02:03:33):
I think that's probably one of the best free to
play games ever because you really get a lot and
you don't have to spend any money. It's all around
like how much you'll play it. And from what I've
played with Where Winds Meet so far and watching other
people play it, it seems like it got like the
same formula. But it's a dope action RPG. It's on
PlayStation and Steam, but definitely, like I mean, it's free,

(02:03:57):
check it out.

Speaker 4 (02:03:58):
Check it out. H I don't know if I recommend
this already, but you know, the new season The Witches out.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Oh, I forgot that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
I saw it, but I wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Most people saw.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:04:17):
Yeah, like you should be completely honest. I completely forgot
it's still here.

Speaker 7 (02:04:22):
No that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:25):
Yeah, I completely forgot. I was like I said, I
was like, what the fuck is this? It looks bad.

Speaker 6 (02:04:36):
Not your but I mean something so far, Like I
finished the whole season and I think the issue that
I really have with is that I feel like I
understand why Harry Cavill left because the story don't make sense.
Some more like it like you don't even matter about him.
It's like that you can tell he left because like nigga,
y'all fin the right? What is this like interviews like
a Game of Thrones?

Speaker 7 (02:04:56):
Because of he got sick of him all the way
because he was like I'm a geek for this and
I love this type.

Speaker 4 (02:05:03):
Of this supposed to be his deadpool, like you can tell.
So that's I think that's the only thing that like,
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (02:05:12):
I enjoy the The Witcher series in general, and he
didn't really do bad like you have think for even
how hearing Cavill was and how they just portrayed the
character like he he was a man of not that
many words anyway I'm saying, so, I mean, and it
ain't like he can't fight it, and so the fights
and everything scenes are actually really good, but the story
all together is just completely off track to even if

(02:05:36):
you haven't I feel like, even if you haven't played
the games or anything like that, from what they were
building up in the first three stories.

Speaker 4 (02:05:43):
It just kind of takes a weird turn in this season.
But you can tell they're trying to do that. Season.

Speaker 6 (02:05:48):
They try to do this way to see they can
like put longevity to the story instead of just ending
it like I should have been, you're saying, and I
think that's what's hurting them, But.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
I would still say I didn't realize it was.

Speaker 6 (02:06:00):
It had that much The Witcher has that much of
a like uh a following on Netflix, Like there's like
eight nine different things of the Witcher.

Speaker 4 (02:06:10):
Animations. You're saying that got spent light.

Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
So it's like there's so many different one things that
they were doing or really fleshed out this universe of
the Witchery.

Speaker 4 (02:06:18):

Speaker 6 (02:06:19):
So I'm thinking that's why Henry Cavill, like if it's
reason that space is like the whole creative thing while
he left it, Because they're trying to make this now
be something that's gonna probably be like a long like
a long standing thing other than just closing off the
story worth the watch.

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
And my other one would be.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
What was the other one?

Speaker 4 (02:06:43):
Oh one, punch man. Really, I've been hearing nothing, I've
been hearing bad. Actually, I mean I've been enjoying it.
I haven't.

Speaker 6 (02:06:54):
Yeah, I haven't had any issues with I think it's
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
It's been.

Speaker 4 (02:07:02):
It's the story.

Speaker 6 (02:07:03):
Is this recommendation, Yeah, you said, well, no, I mean
I feel like it's been a slow I think because
I have long it's been been like a slow crawl
into the first couple of episodes, like I'm not I
only think I'm only fully caught up yet, Like it's
been a slow crawl in the first couple of episodes.
Because but they definitely doing the Power of Friendship season,

(02:07:24):
definitely doing a Power of Friendship season with uh with
Guru the Duke.

Speaker 5 (02:07:29):
So you like you must be on like the second episode,
second or third episode.

Speaker 4 (02:07:33):
But I'll tell your second third. I think it's like
that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (02:07:36):
It's not that it's bad because the story is progressive.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):

Speaker 5 (02:07:41):
Yeah, but the look is a lot different from the
first two seasons.

Speaker 3 (02:07:45):
A lot about that too. I mean the look.

Speaker 4 (02:07:46):
I mean, like I definitely could like animation too. Like
I started watching it.

Speaker 6 (02:07:50):
I watched it because the first people like the first uh,
somebody made the statement talking about like you don't.

Speaker 4 (02:07:56):
Even got no movie in the first episode, like they would.

Speaker 7 (02:07:58):
Really be niggas slides the huge boy bro I saw
me it was a gift, and I'm like, maybe somebody
edited that, and it just looks bad when I went
back and rewatched it. And that's why I didn't really
want to say nothing, but it's it just came out,
and you know, I mean, I wasn't gonna say it's
to the to the.

Speaker 4 (02:08:17):
The Deckade Eye.

Speaker 7 (02:08:18):
You'd be like, oh whatever, you know, it's it's anime
and it's gonna pick up when the actually picks up.

Speaker 2 (02:08:24):
But then when you really really sit down and watch it,
it's like somebody who had to suffer through Record of
Rock and Rock I understand.

Speaker 6 (02:08:31):
Oh yeah, I mean I went through I was record, right.
I mean, I guess I know bad animation when I
know it, you said, I mean, like I said.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Stuff turning the picture books. Answer your question, By the way, Jamie,
there's a fifth and final season.

Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
So this is not the last season, watch second one.

Speaker 6 (02:08:47):
I mean, like I said, I mean, I think, I mean,
I'm actually recommended it because like I said, I ain't
done with either, so I don't know where it's at.

Speaker 4 (02:08:52):
But but also people who like, you know, I like that,
I said, I like the.

Speaker 6 (02:08:56):
Story, Like I said, I still I still enjoy it,
like animation aside, like I mean, and I enjoyed what's
some call it and that had shitty animation that towards
the end seven seven, You know what I'm saying, Like like.

Speaker 4 (02:09:07):
I can get past the animation the story still going
to be a fan. It doesn't affect you, you know
what I'm saying. Looked at it funny outside.

Speaker 7 (02:09:16):
Like side like it just it just makes you feel.
To me, it made it feel cheaper than what one
punch Man deserved.

Speaker 6 (02:09:24):
I mean, I agree in that face like I for
the time, for the time it was like y'all been
going for a minute, dog like it's all y'all like you.

Speaker 4 (02:09:33):
For what you could have gave me that towards the
end of the season or something there. Let me know
your first episode was prime, like you was ready to go.

Speaker 5 (02:09:40):
You're saying I think it's what seven or eight years.

Speaker 7 (02:09:42):
But they were saying, like the production team had so
little time and they short changed them budget wise.

Speaker 5 (02:09:49):
That's why, like some scenes are just one still shot, yeah,
just rotating.

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:54):
Yeah, it's like, you know, we get it, but eventually,
and really, what I think is people.

Speaker 7 (02:09:59):
Just want they want to go, they want you to
go full crazy, but it's like you gotta build up today.

Speaker 6 (02:10:05):
Yeah, that's what's something for me, like like, and I
feel like that even when you think about a budget
for any kind of film, like there's certain i mean
or anime in general, like there's certain scenes that they
just not gonna put that much money in. You I'm saying,
like they really know they're gonna put a lot of day.
If they know that the climates are just gonna be
this big fight scene whatever, they gotta put a lot
of money in all the other shit that doesn't really matter,
you're saying, And that's how we get there.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:10:27):
And that's like and that's I mean, I feel like
even the fact that Invincible Mad they joke about it
for that season, like what I'm saying, they wrote it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
In they but that was clever how they yeah, King
Uh so I got to my first is.

Speaker 7 (02:10:43):
Yeah, the first is gonna be King Ivory. Like I said,
I gotta recommend it because I got the advanced greener.
I kind of thought this movie wasn't gonna be what
it was gonna be because the first initial trailer it
just looks like a drug movie, like a Cacarios or
something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
But once you actually watch it, it is crazy.

Speaker 7 (02:11:03):
Is a It's a dope movie because it comes it
covers the perspective of law enforcement of human traffickers, drug dealers,
of the victims, all in an intertwining like situation.

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
That's how The Wire shot it is.

Speaker 3 (02:11:22):
So yeah, it is so.

Speaker 7 (02:11:23):
Relative though, like like I felt like The Wire was
kind of intriguing because it was East Coast.

Speaker 4 (02:11:28):
I really didn't understand saying more so just the different
aspects shot. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:11:33):
But think of this in a situations like so like
this is held in Tulsa, Oklahoma, so you really already know,
like we've already seen so many documentaries and shows that
let you know what's going on. This gives a very
in depth view of it as a movie. So aspect,
but it's limited viewing. It looks like AMC theaters, so

(02:11:53):
if you do have opportunities, you definitely go check it out.
And also covered it on my channel, the King Media
Group channel in the movie Time with King. So yeah,
just look at that evaluation and then if you feel
like go check it out because it's.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
Here this week and Mayfair and.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
I know, I know, I love that lady.

Speaker 4 (02:12:23):
There and I've been man, here was my restaurant.

Speaker 5 (02:12:28):
I'm oh, damn, it's like just that quick. I forgot myself.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
If Mayfair do that to you, oh that's what it was,
Eddie yea so good.

Speaker 7 (02:12:43):
Definitely got opportunity, Man, go watch it. It was so insightful,
it was very It was a lot of things I
really did not know. But it was also to me,
I felt like he did this to explain a lot
of myths about himself. So that like, because I always
thought he was like a party dude, because ody always
say how they met Eddie Murphy. He was at the
party in his house and you know who it is,

(02:13:04):
and you realize he just made a good environment and
people that fuck with him come by and show him love,
and that's how you're gonna meet him.

Speaker 4 (02:13:12):
And bro his house. He certain celebrities have a house
that's like jacket down.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
His house is a villa. It reminded you if you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:23):
Told me that was Pablo Escobar's house, that was his
safe house, I would believe it. It's so it's that
called the way it's set up, the way it looks,
and this is in California. It looks so tropical, and
you would have sworn he was in Bro. He got
you know how those buildings that have like the op
that's opened and it got like a middle.

Speaker 4 (02:13:41):
Yard, like a courtyard.

Speaker 3 (02:13:43):
He got a court Bro. It's bro. It's so cold
the way it is bro Brough how he.

Speaker 7 (02:13:51):
Even said it like I didn't want to move here,
so when I did decide to, but like when I
had to move to California, I wanted to make sure
I had all the elements that I like, the careers, like.

Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
All the stuff that makes me comfortable.

Speaker 4 (02:14:03):
And it shows also how talented Eddie is. When you
watch that doc.

Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
One of the things that like when you watch when
you watch this doc, you forget that like he can
lose himself into a character like we talk about like
people who play multiple characters and things like that, but
like you know what I'm saying, in coming to America,
when he played the white Jewish guy that was that
was a moment where I didn't know that that was
Eddie until the end of the movie when they did

(02:14:26):
the showing everybody really Yep, I did not know the
white guy was Eddie. I knew. I thought everybody else was.
I thought the white guy was a real person.

Speaker 7 (02:14:35):
Really, yes, honestly, I thought the white guy was a
real person. I thought the dark skinned guy at the
fro was our SDIO and that the old I knew
the old guy was Eddie being a barber, but I
never assumed because he was like I played everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:14:48):
I'm like, like the only.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
Person I knew.

Speaker 6 (02:14:50):
I thought that that knew it was a regular person.
I thought was like the shorter gray hair dude when
the church whatever, Like I know he was somebody else,
but everybody, like in the barb something like, yeah, knew
that was on Eddie in our city. And I think
that I would say that Eddie, like the white that
was probably the one out of everybody in the whole

(02:15:13):
movie that was the hardest to figure out that was
Eddie because yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (02:15:17):
He explained it bro.

Speaker 7 (02:15:19):
He said that when he was little, he would do
he would watch so much TV, and he got so
he got so into it that when he did impressions,
he can do an impression with no trace of his
own voice. I feel like that's the most that's super talented.
You can literally deliver like he was delivering voices that

(02:15:39):
like I was cutting here, I had to look like,
oh ship, that's him talking, but it did not sound
anything like him.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
And then also you think about when you think about
actors with the diversity of the things, the roles that
they play.

Speaker 4 (02:15:51):
He really outlines that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:53):
I let you finish. Letter reminded his recommendations were not
in the new I am still.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
Actually like I said, it just really shows that, like
you know, he's one of the ones, one of those
actors that could dive into multiple type of genres of roles.

Speaker 4 (02:16:14):
He pretty much did every genre.

Speaker 3 (02:16:16):
Yeah, trip.

Speaker 8 (02:16:21):
Right up, I have written down, but no, I just
I want to start off. My recommendation is just by
shining out the greatest of all time that never seen seventeen,
the one and only Doctor thug Namas himself. John Cena

(02:16:43):
is now a Grand Slam champion. He's his first ever
Intercontinental Championship.

Speaker 6 (02:16:49):
He was wrestling the year it's the final year the
Nigga be in films that happens a lot bro that
don't make no sense, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
Crazy, but also want to make him the Grand Slam champion.
That makes sense.

Speaker 8 (02:17:04):
I mean, it gets him the opportunity to put over
another talent at the end of his run. So and
that's you know, it gets him a two parter, right
cross off, never been an intercontinential champion, now being a
Grand Slam champion, and then cross off putting over the
younger talent on my way out. Hopefully it's the younger
talent and not somebody else, but you know that's.

Speaker 4 (02:17:25):
Needsy hearing or there.

Speaker 8 (02:17:26):
And then on Thursday was actually the twentieth anniversary of
Eddie Girrell's passing. For that Red Mysterio paying a letter
to the Player's Tribune and it was really beautiful. But
just one key part I wanted to talk about is
how he mentioned how Dominic Mysterio, Red Masterio's son is

(02:17:46):
like the perfect love letter for Eddie Grill just based
off of his style, his gimmick. How he it lose
Eddie in such a way and it's just it's so
perfectly written. I was getting goosebumps reading it, and then
you think about it, how far you know they've come,
and where Dominic was when he started wrestling. It was

(02:18:06):
not getting over as the Nepple baby baby face. People
was not fucking with him. But as soon as he
started to immolate his real dad and Eddie Gurrill like
just shot off to this rocking to the moon and
you know, just he been around for twenty plus years
at this point, Dominic mysterio because he was a part
of one of the best storylines of all time with

(02:18:27):
the Custody for Don match with Eddie Grill and right mystereo.
So it's only right that you know, to see his
his trajectory and where it's gone. It's just it's such
a beautiful play and I just I wish Eddie was
here to see it. I missed Eddie Garrill, but I
think that was just, you know, something that's not typical.
Just talked about just that the Players.

Speaker 3 (02:18:48):
Tribune, I like families within wrestling, Like you know what
I'm saying, lineage, Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Well,
og recommendations, man, make sure you go follow everybody's page, man,
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(02:19:10):
know it's my and Sean Patrick. Tim is my most
recent two guest those been fired. Did She's been doing
more gaming, but Card's been doing more gaming. We got
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(02:19:47):
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Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
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Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
As always, this is the only podcast that blend hip
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