Episode 207: What Makes a Good Hero Shooter?

We back talking Hero Shooters, the legacy of Michael Jai White, the future of the MCU and so much more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
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Speaker 5 (01:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:57):
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Speaker 6 (02:00):
He was so nervous remember his own lines at first,
so he know where he come in. But he would
say their lines with them housing like, so.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He know when the next line would come, so he
to talk. He just yeah, it was that lately.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
But they say, you see it, so like you'll be
talking even though yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (02:23):
Really yeah, I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
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that it notice it until he pointed it out, and
now every time I just can't miss it, you know
what I'm saying, kind of like like I said, thing
we were talking about now that we work so much
close with Carl Jones. Anytime I watched The Boondogs, I
can spot his voice and any background character that he plays.

Speaker 9 (02:44):
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story about Paul. He told that story about Remember the
first couple of sketches, it was supposed to be Luda.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
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Speaker 9 (02:58):
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Speaker 5 (03:15):
We also got to think too, I do want to
get back to the I.

Speaker 10 (03:19):
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la as as I was rewatching, you know I'm saying,
cause Boon is one of those shows that I kind
of just rewatch every now and then and ship like that.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
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Am like he like you Gotta Remember as A as
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the this song against John Weatherspoon for one, and then
he did a song with will I Am called Dick
Ryding Obama. Like, Bro Carl Jones musically has checked out
some stuff that.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
People only dream of, right, Bro, it's hilarious. Bro, It's hilarious.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
All right.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
So it's back to what.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
We talking about mal Rivals being just is it popular
because of the characters of the game.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, I mean I guess that the overall, I don't
think that's a question. It's for sure because of the characters.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean I just like I said, I feel like
real discussions. We're just because even with King Talbot was
really just the hero shooter. Yeah, and how people you know,
how we how how it's grown and really like how
it feels really playing that ship now, like I said,
coming from me who play Overwatch and actually that was
my first you know, Team Fortress is kind of one
of the icons in the hero bit like hero shooters.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
What are some other games in the hero shooter genre?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because I'm realizing that I probably Team Forces was the
old old that's that's one of the old versions.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
A lot of characters actually overwatched to resemble Team Fortress also,
but Team Fortress Overwatch apex Legends call of Duty.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Did it once when they actually gave everybody powers, Like yeah,
like you, which call of Duty was it?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Are they even advanced warfare? Is that when they had
to jump packs and stuff? Yeah, I didn't play that one.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I'm realizing as you guys are having this conversation
that I'm I'm Marvel Rivals was my very very.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
First That's another one, that's Marvel. Marvel Rivles is my
very very first hero shooter.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Right, And like I said, and that's the reason the
reason's call hair shooters is pretty much because of that.
It's like you, it's it dives into the realm of
it's really a team it's not it's not called it's
a team based game. So you really have to try
to find the best chemistry of care of heroes to do,
you know what I'm saying, to win a match. So
the stress that comes in that space, like I said,

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for me, come and play from Overwatch is that which
is a very common thing in Her Shooters is people
just picking who they want to pick and not looking
at the game like, bro, we gotta have actual good
flow to win this match, and you're saying or if
you can, like even if you're communicating and you try
to like we're playing. When it comes to hair Shooters,
it is a selfish game. Everybody kind of comes from
that space. So my question is.

Speaker 9 (05:53):
Why is it so one dimensional with her? With the character?
What do you mean the characters like you say the
characters it is. I know it's strategy on how you
pick the characters, but why are the hero shooters? I
guess you can't customize, you can't do anything to change
your character or you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Like, So it's mainly because I think, going back to
what Baccardi said, it's about put in the right team
combination to win right. So it's okay, let's take Marvel
Rivals for example. If you're your characters are strategists, you
are really there to help support everybody for the work

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to Like, you know, if you're a cloaking Diger, that's
that's probably the strategies that I play with the most,
and cloak form you are there to sort of hide.
You can do some damage and stuff, but you are
there to sort of get the team, be able to
get the team cover where there's not cover essentially.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Believe that like yeah, as being and I actually put
states at the top, but people like people treat strategies
like it's the bottom thing. But it's like, bro, that's
the umbrother Like y'all ain't getting nowhere if I can't
hear y'all. Yeah, Like I'm really like a d umbrella
over this whole team. So and if I'm playing as
a strategist, once I pick my strategists now depending on
the lineup, like.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Who am I really said?

Speaker 9 (07:14):
I'm not saying I should be able to change them
to like Loki can be cold, you know, become something
take No, I'm saying, why can't I improve my character
or you.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Mean progression style?

Speaker 8 (07:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean I feel like that just kind of
comes with because of what it is as a hero shooter.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Like I hear like so like we've designed like and
that's what I said, like Marvel Robinson when I when
I was agreeing with you, like I can understand saying
the statement that Myra rivals is actually leading to me
it is leading in hero shooters because you're playing with
actual heroes, Like you're playing with people that people are
familiar with. Like if you were playing Overwatch and you're
just looking at Ryan Hart and all this, you just like,
what now you really got to look at what this

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person does to be like do I like this person
or not? Or if you know the characters, just like
why when we put I'm sure I want to.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Think that's why Marvel Rivals is not leading.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Like I said, this all stemmed from me saying Marvel
Rivals is being heavily carried by the Marvel property or
I do think and I'm like I said, I want
to go back. I don't think it's a bad game
because I enjoy it still. Obviously I don't play it as.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Much as obviously you.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
But I think a lot of that stemmed from people
pick it up and go I don't care about anything else.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I just want to be Spider Man.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
I'm not here to try. I just want to be
Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't care about anything else.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I mean, we have a player here that just wants
to be iron Man. Iron Man is the only one
that I'm comfortable with.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Because so I got a couple of questions because you
said that while we can't why you can't level it up.
What's the purpose of getting a character to lord status?
Is that not leveling them up?

Speaker 9 (08:54):
Is that you played good but that stupid piss me
off because you should and it'll get me wrong. I'm
not saying he should be op, but like, like a
storm is omega level, right, So my thing is certain

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attributes I feel should be increased because they're already nerve,
you know what I mean, Like she runs out of
stuff that just don't make sense.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
She shouldn't run out of it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean when you think about when you think about
actual player like creation, and you're like, certain things don't
make sense, right, Like when we talk about Adam not
being able to just fly, so you know, you.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Know I hate that.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
So like first, when you look at it, you're trying
to understand, like, well, what's the reason why you wouldn't
let him fly? Balance, Yeah, that's what it was like,
because you would look at it if you were getting
a nigga who wanted to be out of and he
could fly, and you're like, bro, you put me on
the ground, healing us, but you want to chase this
iron man down. That yo, he about to later you

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eat me every time because you want to keep flying
away from us down.

Speaker 9 (10:03):
You have to do that anyway, because the problem with
him is he he is a healer, but can't really
play the back line because you gotta be right here.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
He doesn't have a distance, Like, he can't heal you
from a distance, right, he definitely he's definitely a minimal.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
So you're already getting attacked because when I attested, when
my group gets attacked, they're coming to get me first.
That's why I have to switch to Loki because I
love you, because these niggas getting me fucked up and
they can't defend me.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Like I always feel like Adam were like, it's like
when I was like I said, it's like the front row,
mid row, back row, like Adam were like, is a
mid row?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like they got you got it, But you're not fighting
with the tanks.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're fighting with dps, Like, y'all gotta protect me when
I hit you know, when I hit the wave thing,
we might catch a tank, right and I'm gonna catch
all three.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
All of us going here, Like so you really?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
So I think this will answer digious question or his
this assessment of it. When you hear of a new
hero shooter, what do you look for and like what
gets you excited for a new hero shooter?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well, like I said, for me, the reason why I
feel like well for me personal why like my rivals
Moore is because I feel like they just expanded more
on what I was already playing. Okay, like over watching,
I said, it was really more boosts on the ground.
A lot of curriers are very stationary to us to
a degree in their space, like punished, like I said,
bast Teams Punisher pretty much care about that.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
So do you think that you what what what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Do you think that's the norm or that's just a
more of a Bacardi's thing, Because what Digit is saying
is that more normal people like the more like the norm.
The general consensus, people only are attracted to Marvel rivals
because of without people only, but most people are attracted
because of the characters, not necessarily.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh, this is pushing the hero shooter genre or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And that's so that's also that I can agree with
that statement that my leaning because you're gonna get a
fan base that's different than who's just came from Overwatch.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, you said, like, you're gonna get people.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Who are just really like, oh, they made a Marvel
fighting game or you know what I'm saying, the Marvel
vvva and that's the only reason why you're playing it.
But if you if you're coming from playing over shooters,
like this is just a new hero shooter.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
But I think that's also because even if you look
at to that point, a lot of the big hero
shooter players and I don't play a lot of hero shooters.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
But just tapped in in gaming.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
That's that's one of the things special sports, that's the
big thing, and that's why a lot of them have
left Marvel Rivals. They don't they'll play it every so often,
they don't play, they don't keep up with it as
much as some of the other ones.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Is because it's the this game. We're just we're just
here to show you different characters essentially. And I think
the balancing in Marvel Rivals is rough.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
And I noticed that as somebody who's very much a
novice and the hero shooters, it's just you can tell
what their priority is, and it really is is we
just want to get you here. We know we can
tell you skins because you're going to buy it because
you like Marvel Carro, we can we can give you
Malice to Storm because one I'm not even talking about.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
From the Hardiness Somebody, it's gonna be Oh Ship, I
remember this issue.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
I really love this version of suit Storm, So I
want the Malice character. I'm gonna give you the you know,
the hell fire gallop suits for everybody, because ship, that's
straight from the comics. And you can you can very
easily tell the more and more you play my Arrivals
that that's what the focus.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Is of the game.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
And balance to get in and really make it enjoyable
is a far second, right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
And far second it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
The list I feel like in their space of like
the fact that they even broke up the seasons to
kind of like give you updates more frequently whatever is
because they really do see like you're gonna drop this character.
This character's gonna get used a ship ton of times
to see how it really works in this field.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
We're gonna get out other bounce update in like.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
A month and a half, and like you're saying to
bounce everything back out again to make this character so
like and you don't get that in a lot of
hear shoes. You may get that in a three to
six month time span of a new update that really
revaps everything. So I do even if you can say,
and maybe maybe that is the thing of it though too,
like that we don't look at like because it's a
licensed game, that the money they're getting in the money
they're supporting them, is allowing them to be like, well

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we can really you do seem like we are like
flooding y'all with ship. But it's because this is a
licensed thing that it makes a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I think, so I hold you from the jump. I
think they knew what they were and they were like,
but it's.

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Gonna be so now.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
My question is this, though, because it sounds like there's
really not much innovation that you can put into these
type of games to make them stand out or make
them different from each other. So with them having such
a vast variety of characters just to be able to
put a skin on, does that not make.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It better because at least its giving you something different.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
But that's the thing, it's not a lot of these
characters feel like I know they operate.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
To say what I'm saying esthetically, you're at least getting
something different, because okay, in a different like let's say
an Overwatch, what what what are they doing different there?
That is gonna that is rivaling dropping new characters. Problem
is is the pace of the game. It doesn't affect
anything because the pace is so fast, like you said, visually,
even if you change the outfit. That's why they That's
why it's colors. No, I know that. What I'm saying

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is like even in Overwatch, right, they're not putting they're
not doing anything new or innovative, at least.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
To what to my not shooter side of a hero shooter.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
The only thing that you really can do that you
make yourself stand out is different change of characters. And
Marvel has a wide base. Does that not put them
above a little step above?

Speaker 9 (15:25):
But that's my problem is because even yeah, they're giving
you the skins, right, you can't customize the skins, so
they're not know what I'm saying, if you could, if
you could change, like if I can customize my player,
I would I would be okay with There's really much
you could do.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
You want to see some white blades? Why customization?

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Why don't you go to that because because that's if
you because that's what I'm saying, that's what.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You get, you know what you like, you know, you
want to be. You would have seen somebody else blade,
but he just taking the balance White. That's egregious, gonna
get no, I.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Think know what you can do is balance is the
name of the game in any heroes.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Let me know that. Man Again, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
That's why they also consistently put off these rebalancing updates
because they just sort of it kind of feels like
they leading with going, oh, ship, it'd be really cool
to have Gambit and Rogue, let's throw them in there.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
So is that not the norm for shooters?

Speaker 8 (16:34):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
They don't always do rebound.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
They rework, but not to the extent I don't know
what the hell is going on next door, not to
the extent of Marvel Rivals. And it feels like, yeah,
probably it feels like it's because they don't take it.
I don't know if they like the time really work
it is you're saying that they balance ain't good because
that's what But that's what it was though.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That was us because like when when Rivers first came out,
it was a three window between we works like you
got the first season, it was a three month season
and then there was like next season and after the
act the season two, there was like we go to
y'all get mad about this ship.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
But also because they also started seeing player.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
But that's what it was, because it's it's three months
of the same game. Like everybody's complaining about y'all need
to tweet this and do this and tweet that.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Because they led in with the Marvel property, you're getting
people because it's like somebody who's coming from Overwatch, Apex, Legends, Valerie,
they're going to understand that.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Yeah, they kept using characters that they weren't actually introducing
to us, so like you could play the play the
storyline to unlocked Blade and then it ever gave you.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Wait, there's a storyline. So I mean they do got
Marble zombies. They they trying to do other things.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
That at all school it got repetitive. Got that's that was.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
You could have just been a longer game, I mean
longer process as a game, but they made it.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Like they doing the Nike commercial. I wonder how much
that's picking up nobody. It's a little bit.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
When you're in the warehouse, say this were house, so
this sold this kind of well, I want to make
sure yay'all done with all your points on this one.
But could it leads to another the topic about Marvel
I know, like that's.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
What I agree, Like I agree Marvels like Marvels, And
I mean, I'm not trying to redefend Marvel. Like I said,
I like it for my own reasons. Like I like it,
like I said, as a difference and from.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
What I was playing before.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I do like I see all of the flaws of
it by having a license game, and like this could
have been DC Rivals and like you said, like it's
a license people is they're still plans for that one.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Not that I heard.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think that was sort of because I mean supposed
to be doing different than DC with like or even
it's like DC Universe all like all those games where
you actually license a fighting game, you're going to get
people who like I just want.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
To be DC Universe who secured by the d C prophets.
Don't get me wrong, I think especially.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
When it's crazy like you're talking about are you're talking
about you're talking about the versus.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, multi versus for.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's Walt versus. So, I just learned of a new term.
Shout out to the homie, Jay Friggin. Are you familiar
with the term flanderization appreciated ball flander, flander flanderization. It soundszation, yeah,
like no, so pretty much.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
It means like when a property you or something becomes
like uh, like you expect something because of.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
How it looks like you know, so it's like it's.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
This is this, and you can instantly tell that that
like immediately right.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
So j Friggin got this. He has this theory about Marvel.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
And he says that the issue that's going on with
Marvel with the m c U is that they're being
flanderized by their property.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That like you there's things that you like.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
You can immediately tell a Marvel movie right off the rim,
he said, when that in that first phase, a lot
of those movies didn't just seem like a Marvel movie.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Those were good movies whether you know wherever you landed.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
He was like, now it's it is instantly a Marvel movie,
and if it doesn't feel like a Marvel movie, then
it's a bad movie. In the MCU, he was like,
you got you know, they got the beat, that you
gotta wait for the end credits, you gotta have the
big score, you gotta and so he was saying that
that might be, you know, an issue with the current
phase of the MCU, because now when directors try to

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take you know, a little bit of creative freedom and everything,
if it doesn't feel like a Marvel movie, they're getting overly.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Criticized because it's like, no, this is not a Marvel movie.
And I wanted to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
I think we talked about this before, when I think
it was you and I going back and forth. I
was talking about how I missed the fact that you
could have a comic book movie that's just its own movie.
It doesn't have to feel connected to everything. And I
think to the point, because every Marvel movie has to
have a bread crumb leading it to six other movies,

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you kind of have to keep it within this sandbody.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean, I feel that's also with the director too.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
But I think I think when you say you're signing
up for this whole Marvel experience.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
It's not just the director, because to do this, they'll
give you notes, they'll say, you know, saying that's that
was the issue with That's why some directors.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
End up moving out and saying.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Like I don't want to be in the Marvel because
they was like, Okay, I had this vision for Thor
whatever the case. I'm not and I'm not saying that's
s cape, but like say a director comes in, I
have a vision for Thor, and then you want to
do it this way. But then here comes Kevin Faigi
or you know whoever, say hell, okay, you gotta work
in we gotta work in the teas. We got to
work in this yeah, and so they're like, well, no,
it doesn't kind of fit in this story now it

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just seems like I'm shoehorning it in, and then it
becomes creative differences and everything like that.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think I think that's why you also get the
actors who are just like, oh, yeah, I did my run.
I want to be done, because you kind of have
to start fitting into this mold and clearly it works obviously.
I think audiences are starting to get a little tired
of it, which you could tell from the box offices
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
But I definitely think there's some truth to it.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
It feels like I don't even take it a step
farther I think it's when you start doing superhero movies
because we don't know, we don't know where DC is
gonna go yet, but let's look at DCEU.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
It very much.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Started to feel the same with that one, where you
had to have this certain feelings, no sunshine.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I feel like the umbrella, like like you said, if
you're part of the mark whatever, where you're under that.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
When I talk that, I'll take it further to say
superhero movies because whatever, whatever the overarching ethos is of
your universe.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
So to speak, you have to fit in.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
And that's what I missed, and I feel like that's
actually an issue. It is this preading the universes. But see,
this is why, this is, This is why when finish
in space, because you're created, like you don't get the
standalone That's what I mean, because it's like you said,
because because of the universe in general, like you that
you said, you can't man saying I want to make
this horror movie whatever, it's like, we gotta be part
of this universe, like you can't be. But you either

(23:18):
making a standalone which we're not gonna lie you to
do it, or you're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Part of this University, this universal movie.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
This is why I'm I'm slightly excited about James Guns
and I'm hoping, man, we only got two technically three
to go off of it, including critic Commandos.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
But like the field.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
For for Superman in the field of Peacemaker are completely different, right,
and it's and and so for me.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I was saying, like, all right, you think, what do
you think? It's the same man.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
They both they both carry a very like creat your commandos.
This is like Jame's gonna say, like he's not making
anything for kids.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Kids definitely for kids. It was it was it was PG.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
No super rolls not for kids. The niggas dropped, they
dropped buildings on thousands of people.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
But compared to.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Who had an orgy scene like like blood Guts. But
difference between big screen for kids and TV for kids.
What I'm saying either neither were technically four kids.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I mean the ratings so different. I mean, I'm but
really because man, it still did better.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know what I'm saying. No, I'm not talking about man,
I'm talking about not that rating, the rating PG thirteen rating.
What you're saying, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
But that's because you got to do that because it's
like they like James Gull was responsible enough to be
like it is.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
Superman also, and also I'm not talking about when I'm
saying for kids, I wouldn't take my six and seven
year olds to see that move.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
So you might as well say that I'm bad man,
because I definitely took my seven year old.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
I mean, but.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
But it's to me, I wouldn't. I felt like that
movie was and it wasn't necessarily even the violence, like
the fighting parts of it was decent, it was just
had so many emotional turns and argument definitely.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Wouldn't be able to they would understand. But that's why
Crypto is in it.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
So my main point to that is that again just
even with James Gunns the way he said it, where
like even the Eastern eggs in it are not really
leading to oh, this is the next part of the story,
this is the next Like to me, this is a
way to still create a universe and still be able
to have technically one offs that don't always have to
connect like they connect, but they don't because like even

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when the people from Superman showed up in Peacemaker, it
wasn't a big, heavy plot point. It was just like
a quick beat, but it wasn't like oh I needed
to watch this to understand like you could, like you
already knew, all right what's going on. And I think
that that's a way to kind of to still be
able to create a connected universe and not do like.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
I will say, it's about to contradict everything I just
said about missing the one off. I do still need
Pattinson to be the Batman of this because we don't
need the Footman stories. And it's like I don't necessarily
that means that he has to show up and be
everything has to lead to a Justice League.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I just don't need all.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Also, you know Alan Rich is Batman in my DC.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
Which I'm not mad at that fan casting. When they
said it, I said, he perfro Alrick.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Perfect because it would be perfect because you can always.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Change shout out to Blue mon bad Castle said that
I ain't gonna hold you.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
That's definitely especially have you watch Preacher right, Yeah, he's
too huge.

Speaker 9 (27:00):
List to see him in the new movie with uh
with the art teacher Nigga. He ain't his being think
about it.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
He don't.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
That's why I say he could change it because he's
on steroids. He's admitted anyway, you don't got his head.
When you black, you can maneuver that and all say
we're going off. If even if they're doing now run,
he fits if they go back and let's say they
do the most classic one of the animated here Superman.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
He got the shoulder. Bro, he that is problem you
thinking about him in comparison to Superman.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Bro.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Batman was the same size member Superman played Batman.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
But when Superman put on a suit and beat up Bang.
But I said, Alan Richon is larger.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Than That's not that is that really gonna take you
out of window?

Speaker 3 (27:48):
That's shop I'm talking really take you out of that
team up.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Look because because when when the back flex showed up,
I'm like, why why Batman is large?

Speaker 9 (28:03):
Because he's supposed to be back look about it, backflack
body pause was out of the U.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Never been.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But he was like, oh, he was supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (28:18):
Because he was older, Like you remember, he was like older.
He was power lifting in I was just like, Bro,
what we doing Listen, I'm gonna keep it real. Batman
has always in the comics and on cartoons have been
a tall bigger he had always always been what is who?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't know. I think it was like six one
sixt like at least over six foot.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
He always you as a moviegoers got used to when
Michael Keith hit the scene when they put what's the
name in there? In the in the eighties seventies, we
got used to that said, oh, okay, well he could
be a smaller.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
This man wear platform boots because he's said he's six
to as Bruce, but as Batman he's six four.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Niggas and kicking nigga. You gotta kick his face in.
It was shadow the stand that.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Is in costume design, where you like, they're not gonna
suck with those six ways.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I mean that's nigga human like you gotta gotta put
on muscle, you gotta put fight these niggas.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Thank you, According to the comment is not sweet. You
can't be at one one eighty as Batman.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Soup to all day, bro, you gotta be According to comics,
back or Bruce Wayne is six to two ten.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Six to two ten.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Six four because I'm assuming no, wait, like.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
You think about he got a bulletproof cake that she
gotta be What'll say sick Wet'll say.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Sixty because he got he bought three hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
You think no I was sinking. So they said six
six two two tennis. Bruce can't along, gotta be ten pounds. Bro,
I was saying, thirty pounds. Cancel our suite, Candl. We
ain't talking about leather and were talking about the Patterson
Batman suiting Nigga. That ship had me. We didn't talking
about that year. We're still gonna have that gear on it.

Speaker 9 (30:31):
Also for him, the way the way he moves with
that bro he powerlifted bro.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
He bro he bro he fit bront.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Want to work on my times when ben Affleck was
what it was the first thing when it did, he
went and grabbed them, dumb beast because.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
The crazy party I want because we did. I did
a fan casting on another podcast about it.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I think it was like two or three years ago
before it was during that It was right after, so
I had got two years ago, was right if the
chances gonna got hired. We just sort of casted and
Alrision was my pick at that out and I watched
the next season to Reach and I was like, never mind.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
You general Bro, like they've really been setting them up,
like they've really been setting him up to be a
Batman figure because in all his movies he stared niggas down.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
The niggas get scared, niggas will talk ship and they
see him and he just sit there like and they're like,
hey man, I fun bro, bro.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I think they got him top for another role though
there d C.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, he was bad, I can get him bang. I
mean we already got Lobo Snash. I mean, you could
have been a Lebo too. I don't know how good
his accident is to be a lobo though.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, he's so apparently.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
He said he's in talks for a role within d C,
but he doesn't think that it's gonna be Batman. He
said he wants to play somebody a little messier.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
M damn, who who I can see. I mean, here's
so many people could But here's the thing. In this
d C. I feel like they're.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Gonna go more Lucha door Bain. I feel like they're
not gonna go. I don't feel like they're go. But
I don't want him in Lucia door Bain. He can
look at two face, Oh two face, I can see
a two face. I can see a two face. That'd
be crazy because we ain't never seen two face, ain't
never seen it.

Speaker 9 (32:10):
You ain't scared of to you, Harvey, it was Harvey
was the regular business.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Scaring to fight.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
To Harvey did if you walk in my if you
walk in my court room and your arms can't go
down like this, nigga, no get out. He would be
the most scariest now he will be if they gave
him two face, he would be literally the most scariest
two face that we've ever seen on.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Screen, right matter, in any medium, because remember two faces.
Big thing is is that more mafioso thing, right, You
know what I'm saying. You get that vibe like he
runs you know, a cartel. You get you're scared of that.
He was never really scared to.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like bare knuckle broad with him, mister free. But I mean,
I thought I thought Harvey didn't did not didn't.

Speaker 9 (32:51):
I'm okay with that kind of life because you don't
have to because you got a suit.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
They both with athletes and everything like that. You could,
like I said, you could you like, we just don't know.
We don't never see That's what I said. We never
see athletes. He could be le Luthor. He could be
Solomon Gundy too, but we can't be. We already got
in this un.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I can see that would be a crazy to call
him in Grundy if you.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Wouldn't have to be somebody big that that has size. Yes,
I can see Killer Crocker, Silimon Grundy, I will story.
I don't think he's Killer crock in d C. What's
the name of d C. What's the crack of that name?
Killer crock is Marvel.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
Is the crack?

Speaker 9 (33:36):
I thought it was something different. No, you think it's
you think of it? Marvel is the doctors?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Oh Lizen?

Speaker 8 (33:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm getting mixed up. Ok, yeah right,
you're right.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
Damn.

Speaker 12 (33:49):
Actually, I act I.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Actual like the Grundy.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
That's if we're if he's not being Bruce, my favorite
is either Grundy or I can see a stroke.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I can't see him being slave. He didn't even be
that athletic. Say, well, take that back, because he doesn't batman.
He wouldn't be athletic batman.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
But he was, like I forget he started off as
that in Blue mind State.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah like that.

Speaker 9 (34:20):
But the catch is when because he even said it himself,
he lost a lot of mobility when he got his
side to play Reacher. But in that movie he just
played with Harry Cavill was like the League of a
Heinous whatever. He is very like athletic because he actually
killing niggas with a bow and arrow. So I'm thinking

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he could possibly.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
If you already have it, you can always always got
to be able to put on the suit and like remember.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Slave shoots first mostly like I said, he very rarely
gets into the hand and hand. It's usually only between
him and Bruce or him and Robbin.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Like for the most part, he's taking niggas out. You
ain't really utilizing at all, I was saying. But I
also think Slade isn't a big enough villain for to cast.
Like Slade could be a very looking persons.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
Different but in a movie also, I don't think he's
a big enough because the storyline wasn't like if you're
gonna put him in a movie, it's gonna have to
be somebody like that.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You can. I get that.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
But you also you gotta think in these worlds, a
lot of people take take you know what I'm saying,
acting liberties, you gotta remember Will Smith, biggest nigga ever
you know what I'm saying as an actor, and he
ended up being dead shot, dead shot in a.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Big flock because nobody knew. No, no, I did what
you're saying. But I'm saying, you get actors.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
At some point there was like, yo, I artistically, I'll
take this role because one either I'm a fan of
this character, or two I see the nuances of you
Remember there is a whole lot to Slade's character, and
as an actor, you can be like, oh that backstory,
like now you're talk gonna go acting shots because you
gotta give us a story, good man as far as
like to go through track, But I feel like it's

(35:57):
the same thing like Will. The reason Will Smith did
that role because he didn't have to do a lot,
like I'm just gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Shoot he.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
Heard the cancer was like some good actors, I would
do this because I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I really want Are you already going for me? Is
my leadership reasons.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
I would take him as Azrael. The fan stuff they
do like to but they do something like the night
Fall story.

Speaker 8 (36:27):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I like that too. Then he can still be he
could still be Batman. There you go, and it's way
more messy something like that. Bro, you know what, I
really do that too. That's what I'm saying. He did story.
I forgot about that story you play you played the guy?

Speaker 8 (36:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You never played the Arkham series, have you? Yeah? I
didn't beat the last one.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I was sad because when he popped up and was
it on Xbox was Arkham Knight? God damn, quickly, what comes?

Speaker 7 (37:01):
I was gonna listen out? Bro, man, you didn't play
right the Spider Man joint and I knew that it
was a licensed So.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
But which one did the show?

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Was that it was that city or night that?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
That's of course.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I think that was. I think it was night actually,
and that was that was so fun. That was definitely
so fun. So damn man, man, No, But I mean,
like I'm talking about the got Them, that Got Them
show when the Yeah, wasn't that when when died the
dude from Blue n y p D Blue No, No,
from the Shield, The Shield, The Shield. Even as that,

(37:51):
like I said, you know, godum is still a great
one of my favorite shows, one of my favorite super shows,
just the way they because to me, it really was
a villain show because it was just everybody just like
we gotta figure out how pa village in this ship
while was still a kid.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
So I have Asviel's storyline and he's just.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Dealing with Gordon, is like, because it wouldn't make no
sense because, like I said, if you really would continue
that story, Gordon knew everything about every villainy before Batman,
even like he would have pretty much been in Lucio's
Fox like.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Would be like, I mean, like so it's like, I.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Actually think he's a little too old. I feel like
you could play fast and loose with those ages. He
would say he think he a little too old to
play John Paul Valley, that's the one that's the asra
who became Batman fall second, because.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Because the mass public doesn't know much about that character,
I think you can play around with that, like you
know what I'm saying, Like like you know what I'm saying,
Like I feel like.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
I don't think his age is integral to like.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, his character and yeah yeah, because it's really whenever
it's really whenever he got the like from Batman, like
you like it might be like you and like a
few of us that be like, hey man, hit that
ag ain't matching. But for the most part, people would
just be like you know, like but I mean it
would be like depending where you would add him into

(39:08):
Batman's timeline, like how old is Batman?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
What I'm saying, like where you were a Batman will be.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
And that's the thing they haven't they're sort of they
don't really they haven't really been forthcoming with what's going
on with that.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
But I mean, as far I was gonna say, because
I know, I know all this kind of stem from
like just talking about universes and how the words you're
talking about, your word of the lands, I actually do
think and I mean I don't know, like you know,
like I said, DC got its own issues, but I
do feel like what I do, like what James Gunn
is doing that Marvel isn't doing, is that everything plays apart,

(39:39):
like you know what I'm saying, Like when it comes
to Marvel cartoons, like a lot of you know, some
of the other random things like they don't play in
the MCU like they're not part of the time, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like James Gunna doing
something where it's like in different mediums, you're gonna it's
all going to still be connected. You're saying where there
be the comb with these putting out where there be
a cartoon that he wants to make create now ran

(40:00):
on TV show a movie here is always gonna be connected.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
He's sort of walking that back kind of and I'm
glad because I.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Don't actually like that what it.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Is because I think you are boxing yourself in too
too much. Now you're saying, Okay, this video game, it
has to fit sa.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
He will say. When he initially came out, he said, everybody.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
So that's where it's like, I think you're boxing yourself
in because if Save DC would have went that route,
you wouldn't have got this absolute storyline then because it
would have had to fit with the Superman, Wonder Woman,
and Batman that were going to be on screen.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And this absolute storyline is cooking the storylines Like I
thought that had nothing to do with it is. But
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
So if you were but if you're saying James Gunn
was saying, I'm going to have his original thing with
everything DC.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Is going to be if there's a Batman, if there's
a bathroot do with James gun James Curry thing he said.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
He what he was saying was like all right, everything
in this DC universe. If I'm if we're doing the movie,
if we're doing the cartoon, and then if we're doing
the video games, and and let's say even we're doing
the else World's movie, the same voice actor is gonna
vote all of these characters in the same actor is
gonna be all of these characters everything.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Just you're gonna get the flex.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
You know.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
So as an actor, you're probably like, oh shit, I
get to play different versions of this character.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Cool, that's really dope.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
But like they're just saying that's kind of like that's
a lot, that's a that's a heavy task.

Speaker 9 (41:27):
Remember this is initial. This was the first initial argument
to all of them, and he had to change it
after Superman because that didn't follow, Like everything didn't cod
you know, didn't line up like he was supposed to.
So it's like, yeah, but I.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Mean it was only it was only three shows.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
We have to really, I get it, because but that's
only because and we had this long dispecsion like then,
I remember that, but that's only because he was still
trying to use ship from the like.

Speaker 9 (41:54):
Last But this is your that's what I said. What
I said, Like, I get it. But he took it
too far by making your own storyline and saying this
is what is going to be, you know, really committing
to it right away, when it's like, bro, you just
showed us something completely different over here.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
I think what he to be fair, I do think
what he meant, and people just took him too literally.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Is that going to I am going.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
To have my DC, my DC run because obviously multiple
runs in different comments from at the same time where
he's like, like you said, it's going to be, I
might put out a comic run, I might put out cartoons,
animated movies. All of these are going to be part
of my thing. I think that's sort of what he meant.
And while he probably has to walk it back more

(42:42):
is like, well, I never meant that in the first place,
but that's how y'all took it.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Let me start clarifying.

Speaker 9 (42:47):
What I really meant was trying to show out on
the rock because he like, I run, I'm due.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I feel like I still got the theater. There was
like a poker tape. There was a poker game going
wrong the rock.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
He out here because like I said, it was just
so much stuff.

Speaker 9 (43:06):
I feel like it was a poker game between James
gun Zack Snyder and the Rock, and the Rock was
at one point he.

Speaker 7 (43:12):
Thought he had to add because, like you guy, remember
he was like the changing of the guards, the power
structure is.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Here and univers At this point he did willed to
get fucking o Henry Cavell back. I don't know how
he did it, but somehow he got Henry Cavell back.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
And then a week later that James Gunn was like, nigga,
wait a minute, and I feel.

Speaker 9 (43:34):
Like that's what he was, Like, James, I got a
full house photos.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
James Gunn had some dirt way.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That is that inning of Zack Snyder run and the
ending of Zack Snyder Run to James Gunn was probably
some of the most messy and ship that we like,
we probably don't even know the full.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Story from Zack Snyder to the Rock to James Gunn, Like, bro,
whatever happened in that like eight months.

Speaker 8 (43:59):
Man, was.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
DC really is a horror in the space. I feel
like it's really like it's really just a lot. Like
That's why I said, I like these I don't know
what is wrong, and I think maybe that is that
like maybe DC's like actual like Umbrella is too dark
or is to whatever that it's really hard to really
put this own screen, or what I'm saying, or the

(44:23):
fact that it is like you're createing all these words
like I don't I'm still trying to understand why DC
can't get a run like Marvel, you know I'm saying. But
I also feel like in some space of it, it's
the fact that Marvel is really our world. So it's
very like it could happen now, it could be where
you have to create so much for d C that's

(44:45):
not necessarily USA, so it's a bigger budget.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
To me, I feel like my.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Theory has always been that they tried to jump in
way too fast with their big one, right, because my
thing is this, like, all right, anytime that Marvel and
d SEED has been cooking at the same time is
when they are just really doing their own thing right
and setting their own pace and everything like that. The
issue that the DCEU had that I always stated was

(45:12):
I was like, bro y'all got because Mire.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I'm DC over Marvel Rock Crazy. Yeah, I'm DC over Marvel.
I've always been DC over Marvel. But Marvel has been
cooking with the MCU right. So when DC was like, Oh,
we're going to start doing the connect the universe, I
was excited. But look how fast they jumped to the
to the Justice League. And I get it, more people
know the Justice League members than the Avengers members. But
one d C was moving as if they was in DC, like, bro,

(45:36):
y'all don't have to jump into this big you know
what I'm saying, Team up immediately.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Y'all have enough that y'all could have built this.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Universe and got to that same point and had y'all
same y'all own moment and everything.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
But it seemed like they just wanted to immediately.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
Believe the.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Compete, and it was like I think Marvel Sola movies
actually made it even came out. They didn't believe in
the money of the solo movies.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
That probably comes more from Warner Brothers. And obviously Warner
Brothers has been sort of bleeding cash for years, so
they probably are like, we don't got the time to
wait for this big hit.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
M I can see that. I can see that.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
Also.

Speaker 9 (46:13):
I think that's the biggest problem is like y'all have
characters that you could have done that with because traditionally,
I think DC is more TV shows anywhere, Right, So.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
You got the Flash, you got Hope, like I mean
not Hope, but you got.

Speaker 9 (46:27):
All Batman, all of these shows that have been shows
on networks for decades. If you just gave us movies,
intro movies, whatever, whatever, instead of its going right to
the Justice League, like I think it would have, it
would have done better, Like people would have gravitated to
those those intro movies for that reason because it's like

(46:48):
I already know of this character or Marvel they kind
of like they kind of did it in a sense
where like, yeah, we had Blade, we had Hope, then
they gave us Captain America, and they gave us iron Man,
and they gave they gave you these like lead ups
to where it's like, Okay, we're gonna have then Author,
then we're gonna have an Avenger movie. And now we've
made you give a damn about characters you never gave exactly.

(47:11):
And so that's the reason why I think DC messed
up is because like we gave a damn about Flash,
gave a damn about Wonder Woman, we gave a damn
about Batman, even Superman. Like all of these are TV
shows your parents grew up watching and if you would
have gave us an intro movie that made sense and
that was like here, this is this first, and then

(47:34):
we'll give you just.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
Try to do.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I feel like I feel like that, you know when
they when when Justice League, when they had that run,
they just turned Batman into Nick Year like that movie
can one like we're cutting everybody, like you're trying to
follow the same formula where it's like they rushed it
though because.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
It was competing, but you didn't have to. But that's
the King's point.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
And I think that one with DC kind of like
they stepped on it on foot. Yes, these characters are
bigger than the characters that Marvel presented with and started with, right,
But the issue is is that, like I said, yes,
the joke always been we don't need any more origin stories.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
You can still give us a solo movie that's not
an origin story.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
The main thing is you need to get us to
be emotionally connected with these not not only.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Just the character, the actor and the character.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Right, we got emotionally connected with you know what I'm
saying with Robert Donnie Junr being our iron Man with
you know what I'm saying with with like we got it,
we got connected with Chris Hemsworth being ourthor when you
just do a movie and just say and as Batman
looking at the computer screen saying, oh yeah, they'll go
ezra mill Us flash, there go this person that's this like,
we don't got any emotional connection. Yes, we know these

(48:42):
characters because we've seen them, but there's no emotional connection.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
So when they do the team up, it's just like,
all right, well, let's see what you got. You know.
It's not like I can't wait, It's just like, wells
what you got.

Speaker 9 (48:50):
And to take it further, So Marvel gave you the
emotional connection not only to the character, but to the
environment the character operating. Yep, So Tony Star made you
care about Stark Towers, Stark Tarr stayed there all the
way through Avengers, all the whole thing. You're right, Spider Man,
you give a damn about where Spider Man from Brooklyn, say,

(49:11):
with Captain America, that's the first thing that they did Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
This that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (49:16):
You knew Black Widow where she came from, you knew
how she got there through doing the ship with with Hawkeys.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah, I mean, I mean you all of this ship, right.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
But all of these places were visited in their universe
or that's where the movie was.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Hell, because you know what, like you, but I think
that's what I because I feel like that like the reason,
so I will say, louis the reason that Marvel did win,
and I will I will stand on that and that Hell,
what I'm saying that is because they took it like
we had Spider Man for a long time, but like
you said, iron Man, all these characters, like we got
a first time shot at.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
This, like Batman, we grew up with five back.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
You know what I'm saying that you're getting a story
like we didn't get, like you couldn't like you saying
though we could have an origin of Batman if you
stayed with one Batman and you really gave us like
the League Shadows back, like the whole.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Like his like his growth, like all these.

Speaker 9 (50:07):
Separate movies, even that, where the fuck was Justice League
at right? The movie nobody I didn't care about nothing
that was really going on besides y'all fighting Stephen Wolf
and eventually getting the dark side right, because you didn't
make me care about environment anywhere, nigga when end Game
or all of that happened, I actually cared where you were.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
He said, you knew about to say goodbye?

Speaker 9 (50:33):
Yeah everything Bro, even in the Flash show Bro, Bro
my whole life.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I didn't really care about Star you know what I'm saying. Like,
I like, I knew about the Flash, I know about
the Flash, Floors Verse Flash, I knew about Iris and
everything like that Star Labs.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
I'm like, I knew that's where he got his powers from,
but I didn't have an emotional connection. Bros got destroyed.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I'm like I felt, cause, like the reason why I'm
bringing this up because when you said about Adventures Towers,
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Gonna hold you as much as I love the Thunderbolts.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
When a Lego Delfontaine took over the Start Towers, I
definitely felt.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
The way, like, wait a minute, what.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
I wrong?

Speaker 9 (51:15):
But I mean like I did feel like there was
things that like Marvel made me care about that, like
DC just kind of.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Skipped over.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Progression or character development, whatever they've made landmarks that's going
to be in Yeah, like the universe was going to.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Always they had the chance to do that.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
By the time the first d CU came out or
DCU film came out.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
It was twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
Oh yeah, Avengers came out. Avengers made one point five billion.
That's on top of iron Man probably making what probably
five six hundred. Iron Man two probably made another five
six hundred, might have made four hundred. So let's say
all in the first four or five films of Marvel
might have grossed three billion. DC like I need that,
I know and not not even d C was like,

(52:02):
what you're the first five?

Speaker 8 (52:03):
Feels?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Better do that because now the world long superheroes.

Speaker 9 (52:06):
But they did it reverse, and you could bro if
I just saw like Man Is Steel, Aquaman, Flash first,
I would have gave a damn even a wonder Woman.
But I would have cared more about Justice League.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
But that's because they started with super They started with Superman,
and they were like, okay, what else self really well, Batman, Let's.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
We can get that. They were just like it was
like a cheap bar.

Speaker 9 (52:43):
Let's just get into the Long Island because they love
it and they're gonna be happy with it.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Like I said, what you think about that runs? Just
like I said, people don't understand.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That's why I say, like I can understand the energy
when people try to even.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Have how Suicide Squad got into that early one. I
just I'm looking at the timeline Suicide Squalled with the
third d C EU film.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
You know what it is.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
Was like some random people that you don't know all
right together to make sure that they do good and
then we're gonna have one person that can talk to
all all the niggas, whether it's guardians or.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Like I said, this was a buddy movie. Just a
buddy He's just a buddy group. Like I cut you off.
It threw me off when I saw that.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
In other superhero that's in general, just like in real
world Subero and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
So, I mean, I want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
But Jack Boseman got starting the Walk of Fame and
that was that was like, Bro, that was definitely well
deserved because like, Bro, you gotta think how short his
career was and the impactful roles that he had.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
It's been really dope. And I know we talked about
it like it was crazy because.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Like we was here when the uh we was recording
and we had to literally have to stop and pause
when when the announcement of his passing happened.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
That was crazy. That was crazy, and it hit us
like a like a like a like a bag of bricks.
On that episode, I was like, I did that.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
There's you know, the three celebrities so far in my
life that like really impacted me was Kobe, Aliyah, and
Chadwick Boseman, Like those are the.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Three that or Prince I was hurt by. I was hurt.
I was We talked about that in the podcast. I
was definitely hurt.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I was definitely hurt, but it didn't hit me. How
this is random? Leah, Chadwick and uh.

Speaker 13 (54:47):
And we podcasted today Kobe past Kobey was like yeah,
like I said, but it was really dope to kind
of see him get his star, you know what I'm saying,
Like I said, what both said that Ryan Coogler's speech
was amazing, and you know what I'm saying, it's just like.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Man bro It's like he's he's like one of actor wise,
like a big what if for me, like where his
career could have went.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I think it's where it was already up.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
And definitely he's literally definitely so many and so many important. Yeah,
And I think that's the thing, like the range of
an actor, right, And I think the range of an
actor to me, goes not necessarily like oh how much
money you can make out of it more or less.
The movies then like cannot not be played, you know

(55:36):
what I'm saying, Like people have to be seated. Like
if I send my kids to school and they like, yo,
we have a class where you know they teaching kids
about certain history figures A Chad with Bozman movie better
get shown, you know at some point in your in
your educational institution. And that's important to me because like, bro,
literally you can't lie that a way and like Yo,

(55:58):
Jackie Robinson, no that we got.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
To Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Bro James Brown,
And he did it, Bro jack he was third Mark
play impactful people.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
And yeah, but a lot anybody a lot of the
movies that he played where he wasn't an actual historic
black hero, he was really playing it a black hero. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, Like Bridges, I didn't even
want to see that movie until I saw the movie,
was like mad at myself that I didn't go.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Same same, I didn't go through the theater to see it.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I didn't when it when it hits streaming, I didn't
even see And then you know what I'm saying. As
I was just diving more too, I was like, damn,
I'm mad I didn't watch this when it was in
his run, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, bro
with such a dope back there, And I said, when
I say, you know what, is just like I feel
like he still had more than he couldn't.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I think it's amazing that he's like like his his
his legacy is left is left is doing like such
important role. But it also lets you know, for me,
because you know, I believe in that, you know, I
believe in those I actually believe in that space of
the universe.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
That you know, we do the things that we need
to do, and then when.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
It's you know, once you once once the universe field
that you've done what you are supposed to be doing here,
that's when it's time for you're saying. So it's like
I feel like I mean, of course, as us being
fans of him, the impact that he had on people
in his space had to been so strong, was saying,
I had to have been so strong, and I believe
that because it like we didn't know there was something

(57:30):
wrong with him, but at the end fact he put
on people that in his life and they were like, Bro,
if you had to chand probably had to tell you
that he was going through this, you already in your
heart was like, bro, I ain't nobody don't.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Know about it. I'm gonna really protect you.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Like he probably was that person what people really say
in their own group chat, like bro, protect channt all.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
Like I said, the stories that came out after he passed,
like he was the shield for a lot of people.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Got to think he had such a young career, but
he had such a wise mind. So there was actors
that was pretty much in his same but they would
say that, Bro, he would talk to me like this
big veteran he helped empowered me do this, Like Daniel
Coluia talks about it, Michael B.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Jordan talks about it, and except whmember.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
We had that conversation where we were talking about the
next new black actors. We were talking about you know, la,
Keith Stanfield, Daniel Coluia, Jonathan Majors, Chadwick Boseman, And you
know what I'm saying, he was a lot of people.
It's like, Yo, Chadwick Boseman is like my favorite right now.
You know what I'm saying because and it's because you
can see that. Like you said, you got to think
when we talk about superheroes, even in general, in the
word of superheroes in this world and everything like that,

(58:31):
they always when they're dealing with shit, they don't let
people know because they put that front because they got
to be, you know, that beacon of hope for people.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
So the fact that Chadwick.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Boseman was doing all these roles and doing all the
things and only his family knew, and he was still
showing face and still like like, bro, that's powerful.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
Yeah, interview, radio, interview, TV interviews. For each movie he
putting out was losing weight, like what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Like, I feel like he was really like y'all think
like I feel like That's why I said, I feel.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Like it's such a powerful thing.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Price trying peop because he probably really told them like
I have to do this, you're saying, like you like
they probably.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Telling him like are you out to that? Like we're
trying to keep you, like were trying to keep you alive?
Like no, bro, like I gotta do this, I got
you say.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
So that was just it was just it was just
beautiful to see that man. So you know Ip, you
know Chackick Boseman, but other celebration news as well.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Now this is a getting another modern day super hell
that I believe, and.

Speaker 9 (59:27):
You do know y'all have to pay. You have to
pay for your own star. I think it's like one
hundred and twenty thousand dollars one hundred absolutely, yes, yes,
old boy that you did the interview with uh from
Bill Society, Bill do Bill do?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
He had to do.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
He did a whole campaign paign to build funds to
get his start.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah, you got to pay for food.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
But do you is there other requirements or can I
say soon I jump into the game.

Speaker 9 (59:54):
And get you got to qualify, but you gotta pay.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
You gotta pay for really, yes, eighty five thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
So you get selected, I get like somebody can nominate
you and not like that so like it doesn't say
what the criterions.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
If you get down you a hope in the space,
because I wouldn't. I'm not looking for a Hollywood stars.
So someone will be like start, you're kind of hoping that.
But see you get running around to get this us.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
But again that's that's generated industry.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Even a fan, anyone including a fan, could nominate a
celebrity as long as the celebrity and his or her
management it's in agreement with the nomination.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
But the thing that's kind of like the industry because
even in general for the awards, you gotta pay for
that war show entry.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
As a Grammy nominated, you can, you gotta. You got
to pay to submit your.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
It's like it's like essential film festival to pay to
get into.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
You So like although like Grammy, Emmy, like anything, album
of the Year, Film of the Year, whatever the case,
all those nominations.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
When you get nominated, you gotta pay.

Speaker 9 (01:00:57):
You don't get no money because what you do is
you enter into consideration.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
You gotta do so you got to pay for consideration.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Because all basically going to pay for the advent.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Yeah, and then so you might you might pay for
consideration and don't even get nominated.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Hold on, that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
So, so let's take let's take geeks set right, if
they're doing the Podcast Year of the Year award, right,
if we feel like we've done enough in this industry
and we were like we want to be nominated, we
have to pay for our entry to be considered and
then the board will determine and say, oh yeah, you know,
he said, let's put them as the nominees.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Now for the Grammys, there's only twenty dollars. It says,
it's it's each injury.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
It's each entry is a twenty dollars the album. I
think those ones are more each injury. That's why.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
That's why it's a pleasure just to be nominated, because
you got to think there's probably millions of people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Is crazy like this is we don't want that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:53):
It's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
The Webby Awards, right, So I was like I was
talking to watch Mojo, right, I said, I want to
be nominated for a Webby.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Feel like I did enough work came with my voice,
acting and the Webby and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
For a Webby it's like four hundred dollars for an entry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Makes sense. Think about how large the gramm music and
you gotta feel That's what I'm saying though, like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Grammedy to be death out, so you know how many
motherfuckers are donate they got sponsors and stuff on top
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Actually, it does make sense because you got to think
about how many people are probably like I feel like
I make because I just make good enough music to
be on the Grammy. Not everything, not every category is
something high listing category with like I needed to know
that you were on the Billboard charts for this, So
think about somebody who made a really dope alternative album

(01:02:45):
that is sweeping across all of these different clubs. People
in al turnative music love it. Probably I might as
well submit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
So you really just so you really just round like
once you like so like I said, even though we
were saying, like Hendrick, like how we went through the
Grammy like like like album of the year, the label
of course probably sit the twenty bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
In right entry.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
So that also means if you're saying I'm a for
album of the year the year, that's what I'm saying,
album of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
The year, like what I mean, But so what's throwing
me those like so if you put that in, are
you also like you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Also got to get like the people behind you now
like back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Then there's a board that's why you got this is
just the same. Then I really now I'm really kind
of thrown by that then, like I don't really like
that idea. Then it's been like that because you shouldn't like,
I do agree if you want to submit everything, but
as a board, if I was actually selecting everybody, like
to have one nigga in five of the characters because

(01:03:46):
you send me eighty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
But that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Like that you're talking about the nomination that they're gonna
read off. That's not that's not just know what this is.
You're not guaranteed to get this list. Hey, I put
out a hip hop album this year. I want you
to listen to it as you put it together.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
You're nomination.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
But what I'm saying like when you are nominated, like
I said, like when we think about when you think
about someone who can leave with four or five awards
because they have so many kind of things, it's like bro,
y'all getting a plethoro of song. So all kind of
like if the nigga want Album of the Year five,
put him in that category. But like you shouldn't be like,
all right, we're gonna put that his album in this category,

(01:04:25):
the song you submitted in this category, the other song
that like Bro, But it's the board.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Let's say, let's say if you got five thousand people
on the phond ond.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
I know what he's saying, but let's say, all right,
so you submit it, you get on that list, right.
Then there's five thousand people on the Grammy board that
that nominates, right, and then everybody gets to submit their names.
So out of that five thousand, if thirty five hundred
of them say, oh yeah, Kencher got Album of the Year,
Kencher got Song of the Year, and stuff like that,
then you gotta put it in the nominations to drill down.
Because then once you drill down the nominations, then you
bring it back to the board and everybody got to

(01:04:54):
vote on the actual nominations. So the process, because I said,
I think Pacino's on the actual Grammy board. Uh, in general,
you know what I'm saying, Caause like you can get
on the Grammy board that you got to pay for
the fee. But you can be on the board where
or you can be on any of these awards show
boards and where you get to kind of vote on.
You usually got to pay a fee. And then when
you submit who you think, like you know what I'm saying,

(01:05:15):
who should be in, they drill it down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
And then you don't have to do it for them.
You got to be a part of the record. Yeah,
you gotta gotta be a part of it. Like there's requirements.
I mean there's still requirements.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Yeah, but again, so it's like you gotta think, like
I get what you're saying, but you gotta remember once
they get the results, they don't have they.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Can't control the results. So if thirty five hundred people
are saying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Then yes, I guess that would throw me on because
it's like if if not, if I'm if we if
I'm submitting from album of the year, song of the year,
video of the year, whatever, all on the one, Like
my album is one thing, that's a that's a collection,
but usually in most cases, like the song, all that
is like them in the same song.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Like I'm just telling you, like this song should be
in all these categories.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
My I guess what throws me is even and I'm
talking from a more of an artistic space. It's like
there's so many other people in the world though, so like,
like it definitely shows it. All it is is by stats.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Not stats. It's all it's only by who gets submitted, right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
So let's say if you got the craziest video out
right now, right, but you never spend that twenty to
get submitted in I can't consider you as better than
that though, but if you did, then it's really but
it's again, it's my personal ability.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
It's my personal choice.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
So if I'm if I'm watching Kendrick and I watch
yours and even though you got the craziest, dopest video,
but I'm like, I kind of really fuck with this
Kindrick War.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
It's just I guess from what charge is ascribed to me,
it opened my eyes. And maybe I don't watch all
the award shows, but I've never seen no one win
an award that I'd never heard of.

Speaker 9 (01:06:44):
Then that yeah, oh wait, are you saying like you
assume that people got picked?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, Like, I mean, my thing is, for one, I've
always thought that it was definitely based on stats, like
you know what I'm saying, like your sales or whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
Through some people won't go that for sure, some reason.
But still it doesn't matter. It's like if if h
Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift did not apply, so she's not
on the ballot. They were like, well, her album came
out on top of all. She was like, yeah, I

(01:07:15):
just didn't apply in time. That's what the thing is
is like, it's not that people have to pick you,
or there's a board that goes, you know, your trip,
you got a dope ass record, he should be a nominee.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
You have to steal, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Somebody has, like I said, because like you're saying, it
still gets narrowed down. So, like I said, living in
the world that we live in, and just like there's
you can't you're not gonna tell me, there's only like
what a hundred motherfucker's submitting?

Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
No, no, no.

Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
When you think about music, like when you think about
the music, like the Wars is like the top five
that you've known of that year.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
But so to be fair, that is probably what who's
to saying. They might get a hundred thousand submissions from
every category every year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
And all that ship might be asked too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Though, Yeah, but it can't be now you're what you're.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Talking about though, is sort of how they voted that
might have So I don't think that that. I don't
think one impacts the other. Somebody those let's say it's
let's say it's a group of a thousand that pick
all of these that thousand majority of them might all
have been like, well, I already know what my top
five album, top five whatever you know that is. I

(01:08:22):
think they pick it like you know you're you're a
specialist in these categories. So like for hip hop, those
thousands might have been like, I know what my top
five hip hop albums is, but I have to listen
to all of these other ones. There's other one hundred
thousands that are submitted. I'm sure they're probably not listening
to every one of them. Were talking about thee Now
that's what that's So there's.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
Gonna be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Yeah, they're gonna be a handful of people who probably
do listen to everything and watch everything. There's gonna be
a handful of people like I already know my top five.
So that's there of the business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
In the clarative understanding what you're saying, Like that's like
the Awars.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
There's never been an awar given to somebody. Then that
is a nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
That's like even if it was a video of the Year,
because like that means that if you still crashing something.
I was like, bro, this is you found you know,
some underground new video, like we created a new talent
some whatever is like, bro, we like hiding video.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Say why I do understand that the phrase of like
marketing and get it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Like, like I said, we can submit ourselves, but you're
gonna still need to show like when if someone does
look for you, they gonna look at like, well this
niggain't got no.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
But well that's why a lot of like if they
are serious about it, that's why you start seeing the campaign.
That's why you you notice like some of these movies
where Netflix will put it out for a week in
theaters and so it can get to the Oscars. And now, oh, Ship,
Well why is Denzel Washington going on all this all
these random ass podcasts and stuff because it's on his

(01:09:53):
Oscar campaigns.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
He's here to get in front of the people to
talk about this film. It's not necessarily you can, because
you really can't promote after you submit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, you kind of you can't because oh yeah, right right,
sitting on people's minds.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
I just want, like say, I submitted my film came
out February this year, and the Oscars ain't till obviously
February next year. So I didn't make it for the
Oscars twenty twenty five. I want to be on twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Well, Ship, I need to be in your head for
a year, I need you to see me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I need to So we're just saying in general, like
this work, like you got to do the work.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
That's why you said.

Speaker 14 (01:10:28):
People like when movies people like this is a oscars,
but we'll seeing people will say this is Oscar bab
and like you said, you're you're seeing the beats already
and then you're like, oh, I know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
And then they are even when you're talking about it,
they're talking about you know, in the interviews.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
That's where you get the interviews like yeah, you know,
I really had to tap into myself, you know, I
changed you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
You know, that's why you like I said, that's why
you sort of you they are. There are Oscar campaign
I'm sure there are a Grammy camp. We hear more
about the Oscar campaigns. I think because they go more
lavish with it. You'll start seeing the billboards and stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:11:00):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
It's the same thing. But the source of wars and
nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
That's I'm not to understand why, like you could that's
too many niggas around for all the war shows.

Speaker 9 (01:11:12):
But I think that's the issue with black a war
show in general, is the fact that the control. You
can't control a person once they feel like their money
on the line, and then you forgot to think the war.
The wind increases their money as well. Labels and their
distribution companies are like bro got a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Great I feel like, I mean did an interviews, so
I mean I feel like I mean that's what I said.
I feel like I hate that space because I feel
like the Grammys really have like an indie cat, like
an indie or.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
That's what I hate about in that space because like
when like I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Say, like now, like when you when you hear like
a Drake or Whitney or Beyonce sweeping the grounds like bro.
But that's why evertism like it is like a bro
like even I guess it's a machine.

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
Behind you that it's really it's really what he said
is it's a layout of your It's a layout of
your year and your workload. If you're gonna have a
like you say, a Grammy Award winning project, you choose
when you drop it. But you also need to have
a campaign behind keeping yourself relevant. So a lot of
people like you say, do movies or press story, they'll

(01:12:16):
drop another album right before the Grammys. To remember the
first album project. It's a strategy, but it's also is
to get this award to better my career.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
But that's also like I said, like I feel like
that's why I say, like I go, like I get why.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
So like even in what you're what y'all saying, now,
I can understand why the clips is in the list.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
You know what I'm saying. They had a great run.
So like I've never thought about saying, sing the clips
and you said, is it because is it because they're giving?

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Because I would feel like that that mindset shouldn't have
changed like that them having to pay twenty dollars per
per fee or per per submission shouldn't mindset on what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
But my thing I think because but it's only because
of what y'all saying now, like because now it made
everything that they've been doing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
OSCARS has zero costs to actually submit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
I didn't know that zero costs.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Let me double check and make sure this is in
a specific program.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
But for me, it's like it is that he's like,
because now that's what I do see that like when
like when we talk about like when The Kiss was
like coming out and like man, they had an amazing press
run he think to talk about all this shit whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:13:20):
It's like, if that was that, they didn't do that. No,
they did that for the They did that for themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I made it for an album, but it does help,
Like you.

Speaker 9 (01:13:27):
Know, I don't think so this is my thing, like
two right, right, and and not saying what they did.
What they did was different than what somebody would do
to encourage themselves to get that Grammy. But what I
believe they did that was to show what they had
to do in their original album exactly. So for them,
it was like, this is old school rap. We had

(01:13:49):
to drop the record. We had to do this, you know,
promo before and after and the tour and everything else.
Y'all just not used to it, and that's why y'all
wasn't successful. But I also believe it could be looked
at as yo, they did that in hopes to get
on this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
But it aligns because when you hear.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Malice talk, malice like malice, Like I said, I've been
listening to a lot of more Malice interviews and everything
like that, because and Malice said, he said, bro the
level that pushers.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
He has kept the name of the clips at this prestige.
It was really dope for me to stay even jump
back in it. He said that, you know what I'm saying,
the conversation that he had with his pops. You know
what I'm saying to get back in And he said, one,
he's just having fun being being able to rave with
his brother and everything like that. But like he was like, one,
we're not sacrificing anything, We're not changing anything. We're just
taking it back to like grassroots of who we are.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
So it just so happens that that also aligns with
a Grammy run.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
You know that the strategy that you learned.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
And that's what I'm saying because like my thing is
like I said, like you're gonna do like I'm not
saying they doing the things to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Like I said, I give you something that two things
can be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I'm saying like because I'm like, like you said, like
when we were talking of rap I think we were talking
to the grammarthing like they wrapped the Vatican.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
I'm like, is that supposed to be important?

Speaker 9 (01:15:01):
But it might be you're there no one no but
yeah pop artist, no no rapper or hip hop artists.
I don't even know if another artist in general period
has ever performed in the Vat, but they have the no,
you know you don't because you just said that that
would go important to a Grammy run. No, no one

(01:15:25):
has been.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Wait to the Cardi's point, though, I get on what
he's saying. Is he personally don't care about that?

Speaker 8 (01:15:33):
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:15:33):
Is that important what it is to rap because the
global outreach to Italy, the global that this is Italy hip.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Hop the other thing and hip hop we're such a
it's still such a young culture and everything like that
to be and if we've been a culture that's been
chastised that we're not real music and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
For us to be in the Vatican, that is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
A huge step for hip hop culture and in general, Bro,
that is huge.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
The fact the fact that the founders of hip hop
was rapping in warehouses over Djin I think that let
me let me get this off. The fact that that
the founders was rapping in warehouses and alley ways over
hip hop beats on speakers or niggas regular everyday ship.
The fact that that's where we started and the people

(01:16:20):
still alive. Bro, we have to understand something. In a
short time of less than what forty five years, we
went from us a warehouse to the Vatican, where you
don't get it. No one can just walk in there
and start performing. Bro, Like you said, this is a
globally recorded so that them it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Wasn't just them, but they just they just part of it. Yeah,
so it was Pharrell, So it was Pharrell. Voices of
Fire Choir.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
I don't know who that is, uh, Andrebocelli, John Legend,
Jennifer Hudson, Carol g Clips, Teddy Swims, Jelly Roll, Bam Bam,
Angelique Kid, Joanna Burgers, Machi Volo, and the choir of
the Diocese of.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
It was funny when you think about the Vatican.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
But we think about the Vatican and let's say even
even with them doing the music Vestival right where you say, okay,
we need representation of hip hop. In my head, it
would just be for real, in my head, the Vatican
before the world as the world world leaders. They would
pick for real because he's safe, Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
They had the clips talking about Ballerias, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
A metaphor for Coke.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I mean, I get maybe that's just me. Maybe it's
just me personally how I think about it, because like
it ain't it's to me I understand what everybody says
about like the feet of it is, but it's really
like I don't care about the Vatican, Like that's not
an important like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
People look at that. It's just like brough Us, for one,
I don't face.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
So that, Like I don't that's that religious and cultural
importance of the Vatican. You don't like, I don't like
so so to your point, to your point though in
the Grammy board, you may have that right, But then
the other nine hundred ninety people like Hue, how they
that's what I said, Like, that's how they read the person.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
It is a fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
But if I'm in, if I'm in, like I'm voting
that it could be a really big like that really
could be a really big thing, like because you do
have a mixed bag of people in the world, just
like I just like, I mean, I love the clips,
but I didn't even.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Know they did that, unil you'all told. Yeah, I do
think that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I wonder how many people like the way it was
told to me until I read this pressure release, and
I think, I guess Disney put this together. I'm assuming
they must have had something to do or they're just
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
They put it together.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
They just took the exclusive streaming rights. But it was
on Disney Plus. So what it is the it does
it's the first concert that has taken place in the
heart of Vatican City, surprising, so that this is the
first time of that, So that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
That is dope. But the way it was pushed to me,
it was only Clips this. It was pushed to me
that they were the first rap group to be alive.
I know it was the festival. I know. I didn't
like they said.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
To Maccarty's point, I didn't really give an about everybody
else that was at the Vatican performance.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
The Clips was there, I know, saying it makes sense,
but that don't make sense to be honest. You could
have gave me any of these names. And what then
is the concert going on at the back?

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Really what I would think it is, because I know
it's probably opera.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
There's probably some with the area.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
Assume they would have they gonna have a concert that
it was gonna definitely have some opera, and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I can see General Husson Alli piano like you say that,
But you said the Clips Nigga, we're talking about like,
regardless of doing I would to say that to you,
said that I didn't know their name was like I
can see them being there.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
You're there because the clips is the two that I
would have been, like what I was gonna say, Jimmy Row,
I definitely don't understand why her music.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Is very second is sexual hurt so she lightened or
she a lightened artists and her music is very sexual.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Curiously bad, so she's thinking about her being bad. Of
course she is like that. Even in my mindset, it's
like if I live out there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
And you get a whole bunch of American ass niggas
coming to see this guncern, but I.

Speaker 9 (01:20:52):
Guess you are going, I'm not going. That's what I'm saying. No,
you're not listening, bro. You we couldn't. We don't have access.
It was it just for a Vatican Like was it
just for the people in the like you not look, bro?
They said there were twenty thirty thousand people listen if

(01:21:13):
you know you can go. We don't know, He's how
you just said, we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Even know what's going on.

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
That's all I'm saying about being able to have that
access and being picked to be in that type of environment, bro,
Like I understanding now it's certain environment, it's certain events
in certain places we will never.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Get access to.

Speaker 9 (01:21:29):
Right, that's just socially how it's set up. That's one
of them events. Rock Nation Brunch. We ain't going, bro,
we can get there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I feel like we ain't going next year. Ain't gonna
be the next year exactly. People gonna hold you. I
already saw it in my head Rock Nation Brunch, Bro,
this stuff public concert? So like this is people were I'm.

Speaker 15 (01:21:54):
Literally you if you couldn't get to Peter Square so
like that that just's a tourist spot.

Speaker 5 (01:22:04):
So I'm like yeah, but it was like, so was
it actually the first this content? This is the first
content content America? And something from from from Southuth, Chicago.

Speaker 16 (01:22:19):
That's his first order for real, Like, hey you slid?

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
So the director is that the credit dire because it
said the credit director of the concert was Pharrell and Andre,
like those are the two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
He's a uh his Italian singer was he in the
infestive one of the people there too. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
I don't know if he was still singing or if
he was just he was also credit director who gave you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
The World loves Pharrell bro said that who just gave
you okay to do this?

Speaker 7 (01:22:58):
Like, so, so what it is?

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
From a Catholic Church perspective.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
Now we're we're we're showing that we are for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
It's completely makes it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:15):
It was like a Catholic test. Don't make it, but
it makes sense because they never showed that. If you
but that, but that's what when you're getting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Younger and more.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
This is one undred percent of marketing thing from it's
nothing than sex way from hot dope.

Speaker 8 (01:23:32):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
But it's like thinking about.

Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
Some reasoning why literally just I literally just heard the
report that this that was the biggest issue right now
with the Catholic Church was not feeling relavant, like they're losing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah, every Sunday not coming because it's just like, you know,
we're cool, man, look at we got the clips.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
I think it was like his birthday celebrated, even the
crazy because birthday because it was, as you said, I
don't see.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
The fly because it was the fly. The thing is,
you know what I'm saying, A couple of bottles holy water.
You gotta put that care to rees, grill and ship. Yeah,
the thing was on the him Martin Luther King Malcolm Man.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Saturday and the thirteenth birthday was Sunday, the fourteenth of September.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
You're not gonna throw a concert on the day.

Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
We have Pope Attire in the bullet who was boxing
out in the bubble tire but he had he had
the Pope drip.

Speaker 9 (01:24:35):
It was poping spire set and spied.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Like what if you came out with the Pelly with
the Chicago in the back?

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Okay, So like that's all, like I said, so even
when you break it down more and more, to me,
it still.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Takes more value. Like I don't care about their value.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
But like I said, as a grammy person, that was like,
if I got the road, I'm paying this money to
nominate people, and I'm like, heypy paying where I'm picking
this the carrier I.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Want to be in, Yes, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Like I would be like, yes, nig evaticate right, But
and the consumer and you can say that it's a
great thief hip hop if you care about the vaticate,
like if you care about the religion and what it's doing. Yes,
But even with digit tell me like they just trying
to recruit people like equated to the religion equated me too,

(01:25:30):
as something Catholic. I'm thinking of it as these things
were to a place that don't give a funk about
rap like that rap.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
It was like we need.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
That like bro here, that's the I can give it
that a the that space because I do understand the reach.
Like I said, it could be anybody picked, so can
I can I am.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Attracts more that part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
So I mean, like I said, so, I mean it
could have but it could have been if Reil wouldn't
have been on there, if if anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Else a home that would have got said.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
You also got to think they you have to equate
that they considered them when they chose for real, because
they all run together, so they you're not Finna. That's
just like when they picked up jay Z. You knew
his friends is gonna be performed. So if I'm gonna
choose for real, I'm gonna take the chance these niggas
coming or even.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Think about for real. You don't know which get him.
I'm like, you'll get me.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Say Forrell could get like with Pharrell, you can get
Gwen Stefani, you can get l M f A.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Oh, you can get you know will I am.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Or you can Rember forharrel Is on both sides. You
can get Pharrell, he could be he could be in
this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
About bad like all right, I'm bringing Nori, I'm bringing
clips like like you never know which Farrel you're gonna get.
I mean, and like I said, I mean, I think
it's I mean, if they if it does become an
annual thing or whatever, I mean, I think it's I
think it's definitely though by did I think it's I
think it's still great that in the first year we
got represented, like I do, I do expect.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
That like in the first year that we got nobody. Cheese.
How do you think how do you think blurs that
the Vatican goes.

Speaker 9 (01:27:06):
I don't want what topics you bring it to the Vatican?

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Gieg set line.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Another historical moment man, Like you said, Michael ja white Man,
you know what I'm saying. He just got the Bruce
Lee Award at the eleventh annual what was it called
the eleventh Annual Asian World Film Festival.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
That he's the first non Asian to win that award.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Now here's the thing, because listen Asian culture, because there's
so much on pride.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
And everything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
I would believe if they said that there's no paid
entry for you, if they told me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
I don't know much about the the Asian World Film Festival,
but I can see them like business.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Age were film Fester, he were a Bruce Lee Award
for martial Arts. I'm reading they go off. I don't know,
but I'm like, you don't, you don't deserve it. It's
as a marshal artist.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
It was a true marshal Like I guess I'm trying
because if it's a martial arts the world a world,
then yeah, like I mean, it's an Asian World Film Festival.
But but it's like, now what it's like what movies
because you think the Bruce even the movies that Michael
Jock White did, they didn't really utilize his actual talent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
What are you talking about? Everything?

Speaker 8 (01:28:35):
Everything?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
I mean you're talking about as far as like hold on,
it's called the Bruce Lee Awards because remember Bruce Lee
is the most famous martial artist.

Speaker 9 (01:28:43):
Actor to the point like like he is that, Like
you know, very don't know about Bruce Lee's film about White, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
So you gotta think what Bruce Lee brought to the films,
Michael J. White is pretty much a stooding of that,
bringing those the same type of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
But I'm saying, like, but what move is they going off?
Because like what movies that Michael Jack White like?

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Are we going on? His people? Are we going like
the movies?

Speaker 17 (01:29:04):
I'm assuming that's a career award because i mean, the
Bruce Lee Award is most likely going to be a
career award because what Bruce he did as his career
with his films.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
I mean, i mean, can I show you what what
movie did he?

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
Not?

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Martial arts?

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Like I'm talking when I was talking about martial arts,
I'm talking about like like they're like an action Like
to me, Michaeljack White is an action hero.

Speaker 9 (01:29:28):
Again what movies besides his stuff? But you do action
or karate is. But what I'm saying is like, what
are they like?

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
I haven't seen Michael JA White do nothing in a
very long time, So I'm like, I'm saying, like, what
were the movies that they like? Are they going off?
His like straight to DVDs?

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
And I've never watched career That's what I'm saying. Thinking
about think about all of this.

Speaker 9 (01:29:57):
Going on on this nigga wasn't bad, then this nigga is.
Black Dynamite has so many.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
It was a live action first, you're so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Slenders, that's.

Speaker 8 (01:30:18):
What.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Don't what, Bro, I'm not agree with you. Don't look
at me like I'm about to agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
I love Black Dynamite because I know Michael John White
is a martial artist and he did a black sportation
martial arts field.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
So like I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
I'm not saying it was like true karate or something
like that. But it's like, bro, you was really like
you know what you're doing here? But but but like
his feel most of his feeling and he's doing actual but.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
It means what have the briefly award?

Speaker 8 (01:30:45):
Like what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
If you looking at are you looking up?

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I can't figure out what this award actually is. Tony
John got it one year though.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Oh yeah, Tony John. I mean I know Tony John.

Speaker 11 (01:30:56):
I know that I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
I really can't. I'm tame out with.

Speaker 8 (01:31:02):
The movie here. You're every year.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
I just maybe I don't do doing karate. So I'm
a huge Michael John White too. That's also here, Like
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:17):
You saw, like here what I see like all the
movies like he did, he never watched You just say,
like what what what's last?

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Michael Jack White? That is a good question. Why do
you think about that?

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
This mean, the word itself is to recognize an individual
who has made a significant legacy in martial arts and film.

Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
Michael White. That is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
He said that because I mean, because you were going,
like you even if I never seen the movies like man,
even like you're saying it just magga.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
How way, however, he pops out of martial arts movie
secated martial artists in the world, in the world. You said, what,
he's one of artists in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying you're taking away from
his marshall our credit. I'm trying to, like I said,
if it was, if it was the Bruce Lee Award
for Martial Arts.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
I'm like, yes, But that's what I asked what it is?

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
That was because in the war part of the film,
his stry so this out asked like, well, what movies,
that's what the that's what career.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
But y'all told because because I've just been listening to
y'all before.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
But CARDI asked that specific question and y'all said, oh
my god, nobody knew what they were?

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Was nobody know what they were? Because nobody You're next you.
I didn't hold on, hold on, you said, until you
said what the word? Leg said? I legit said.

Speaker 9 (01:32:36):
As a comparison, I said, it's called the Bruce Lee
awar So what Bruce Lee did with martial arts in
his film Michael Ji White is essentially do the exact
same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
I said that Forbade, I.

Speaker 9 (01:32:46):
Said, dropped an action movie where he does and in
every movie that he's dropped for the last.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Horror many years. And I said career butter ye martial arts.

Speaker 9 (01:33:02):
But I said, he just that because he got a
couple of weird movies. But he has actually the martial
arts movies every year, and as.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
A career, it mirrors what Bruce Lee was doing. That's
his career martial arts said. It wasn't like I said, I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
Pretty sure if it was a martial arts just award,
it was based off of some martial arts master.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
But when you name it the Bruce Lee Award, obviously
it's talking about the work of martial arts in film.

Speaker 9 (01:33:31):
Also, that's what his answer with its a lot. Honestly,
he has films just you just have to say, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
What I said, it's eleven annual. I want to make
sure I get it right. But it was a film award.
I said, it was a film ward from you said
it was you said that eleventh annual Asian World Film Fest.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
That's no, that's that's what I said. So this is
the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
We just came out of a ward thing to this right.
So like the thing I asked was like, what what
movie when it's award?

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
And y'all like and once it did really said like bro,
it's like I mean a lifetime. I'm like, I gees
his career.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
But it like I'm like, yes, I haven't followed Michaeljo,
like we got recent movies that I'm like, are y'all
going off of what.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
I remember in the past, Like we don't know what
your relatively remember, but but I'm asked. So I was
asking the thing was I was saying, but CARDI legit
was asking the question.

Speaker 8 (01:34:26):
What I ranged.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I just don't just because he ain't got nothing but
movies but movie what movies? That was actually not it
was it was it was the career we didn't know
it was his career until I was just listening to
you going on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
You said the Bruce Lee, like the Bruce Lee Award
doesn't have film in it's a Bruce Lee Award, And
you said this it was at this film field.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
But I said, what movie.

Speaker 9 (01:35:03):
Re reason why I'm saying, and y'all reaction. My reaction
is this way because he only drops fight movies. He
has maybe one in the three with the Tyler Perry movie.
But I mean in the last few years where he
didn't fight in the movie, but generally every movie.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
But I think we did saying like the blow Up,
y'all saying like I wasn't saying that the nigga gonna
do fight movies.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
You also, you also didn't say, like your level of
knowledge of movie, because I would assume you would under
you would already know at least I assume.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Every black person knows, like Michael John White.

Speaker 9 (01:35:42):
If I feel like to me, if you Michael joh
White wins the Bruce Lee Award in the Asian Film Festival,
to me, I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Was, I assumes so if you'll ask me in personally,
in my mind, the nigga one of them, because it's Spawn.
That's I think I remember saying. But that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Wow, listen, I know this nigga is still acted. Yeah,
nigga was training like Michael White with my t T
I'm not saying what he does a lot of two
streaming to streaming movies, like they go straight to streaming.

(01:36:25):
If you're not you're making you're not a big Michael
Giant White fan. You're not going to be.

Speaker 9 (01:36:35):
I'm not gonna let this ship ride. We all know
cl Jones, nigga. We all know crawl Jones, right, So
you're not gonna tell me that. Y'all don't know who
Black Dynamite is. You know I'm saying, you've seen the
movie ye, and it's been out way past spawn.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
I don't know he was still acting. But I mean, but.

Speaker 8 (01:36:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
You you you're with me crazy when I said that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
But I'm like the Black Exportation fil like, bro, I
know he's watching, but he's doing Black Sportation.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
What was he doing in it? Come blaxplotation? Marshall interrupted,
my word, I ain't gonna hold.

Speaker 8 (01:37:15):
I don't watch.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
I don't watch. That meant that meant zero to me.
I don't watch.

Speaker 8 (01:37:21):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
This is what I'm saying. He was saying, he's constantly he's.

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
Watch to me.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
Actually, this is why he's so blasted between to me.
This is its equivalent of somebody like always that old
Jackson still be doing movies.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
That's that's that's the same.

Speaker 8 (01:37:40):
That is the same.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
That's a lot of You get plenty of it, plenty
of them, but they do. But he got way more.

Speaker 9 (01:37:49):
He got, he got some, he got some trash trash on.
I mean, yeah, I mean you do, but he got
way more than is. Actually i've seen him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
I'm just saying to him, but that's you know, that's
all that's like to want something be like, I ain't
know Michael John White was black.

Speaker 9 (01:38:02):
That's crazy that never back down to the theater, bro,
Like it's plenty of that went to the theater. Colvi
Risen went to the theater.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
So it's the last thing that I saw him in
and it was this episode of Blackish. He's done since then.
So don't get the fuck.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Out of my face when y'all talking about it. Fucking
blastermos this nigga. These things in five years?

Speaker 8 (01:38:24):
Three things?

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
What was the three things?

Speaker 8 (01:38:26):
Pop?

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
I don't know what the funk that is? Keep them
business in the family business, New Orleans.

Speaker 8 (01:38:31):
What is.

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
I'm just going the last thing I seen on this filmmacrophone.
This list, it might not be an accurate list because
clearly niggas don't know everything.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
This fucking nigga did shout out to the first because
outlaw Johnny that came out in twenty twenty three? What
was he gonna outlaw Johnny Black? I came with matter
of fact that Tony Baker's in that. Yeah, yeah, was
he doing k flu and that I didn't Yeah, he
was gonna fight, you know, playing fake pass Tony Baker.

Speaker 9 (01:39:04):
This is crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
To me, Bro, like Tony we talked about you know
what Tony Maker talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
He talks about how iconic it was to be able
to work with the iconic Michael to White.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Bro looking at that like my thing you didn't talk
about he did ship since what and so you don't
theater that came bout twenty like y'all, Fantom is really
danty bird.

Speaker 9 (01:39:30):
Right now you're telling what y'all just said. Joe Bro,
here's what you yourself are. Listen, y'all, I'm supposed to
watch blast and if you don't some of the platforms
he drop on. Don't watch his promos stuff, then you
won't catch them, white one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
But I'll I'm gonna tell you what you wouldn't have.

Speaker 8 (01:39:50):
I'm gonna tell you what you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
What it is like what you're talking about, you.

Speaker 8 (01:39:57):
Woman, But.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
The reason why is blasphemos. And this is literally when
this guy announced everybody in the world that I've seen
because that I've seen you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Didn't talk to your brother finished everybody in the world.
Everybody was like, oh, this, this makes sense, this makes sense.
This is the first time I've seen anybody. But it
was like, wait, what you been doing? This is the
time but my last time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
But my thing said mine came from literally from the
lead off of us talking about the Wars and submitting stuff.
So I'm like, oh, he won the Wars, like what
movies like because my thing is like I don't know
the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
So like, man, if y'all tell me the recent movie
that would have been partly this warld But this is
a career world, and now I'm worrying for me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
All this nigga got a longer career, Like that's all
I'm learning now, Like, but I never said that Mitael
Jack White is on terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
That's not a master. I've watched this nigga. That's the
problem with so.

Speaker 7 (01:40:51):
Keep those slicing and being like I know who he is,
Like I know this niggas a legend, like you said,
but I actually thought that he was actually this training
niggas in martial art.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Like I didn't know. I know he was still making
straight to DVD movies for straight to streaming movies.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
I thought he was in his break or we I
ain't say the nigga wouldn't do another movie, but I
thought he was in the break of his life.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Where he was even so as a career award, why
you think is the last movie? I saw? It was
the last, But as a career award Michael J.

Speaker 9 (01:41:18):
White, Bruce Lee Award, to me, it's like there needs
there's no questions that need to want to but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Question crazy about it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:29):
The fact.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Moviec being like, oh that's dope. I was like we
were in a war talking was like he just asked
legitimate question.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
Nobody questions any of his correct credituals and niggas act
like we said, this nigga is the worst nigga ever.

Speaker 9 (01:41:52):
Ronnie Movie he has dropped at least a fighting movie
once a year for the last and then my whole thing.
And I heard what buccarty said. I just answered this question.
It don't matter if he ain't watched it. He never
told us his last few movies that he's seen, and
until he just said Spawned is the only thing that
he was referencing as far as the fight movie. So

(01:42:14):
my point is, I'm only saying you haven't been watching
any movie because even though you're keep saying dropped straight
to straight to stream, everybody is doing a straight to
stream deal. So even if it's on Hulu, Netflix, whatever,
whether it's Adam Saylor, god damn Bruce Willis for the
last three years, everybody is in that and he's one
of the people in it. But my expectation is that

(01:42:38):
you would have at least saw the popular one, the
Blood and Bone, the black are you say in this thing?
Y'all both have contradicted y'all self because both and y'all
haven't seen it. For when he brought certain things up,
y'all both acknowledged that y'all have seen, but I haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
I said, oh movie, because not only nothing I haven't
seen it. That's a lot of ship I don't see, right, Stevens.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
That's why I say so blasts like, sorry, y'all, I'm sorry,
y'all took my statement incorrectly saying he's one of.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Those black people that I'm like, like the culture just like, yeah,
what y'all doing is pretty much like a black like
Michael Joan White. There isn't there isn't a lot of
black correct in the world anyway. For Michael joh White
always has been a favorite of mine. He and my
motherfucking home.

Speaker 9 (01:43:36):
Screen like a new Backel Giant White movie just showed,
Like I don't think I'm saying like he's not popping
over on my live show, but I'm watching live TV
things like I may have seen.

Speaker 8 (01:43:45):
We know, we don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:43:47):
That's but the whole argument, it's only because we don't know,
you know what I'm saying, So that's what we can't
assume that because you like, yo, I.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Ain't seen ship, but the marship prop up Michael John
White is there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
You know what I'm saying it without arguments because I
just asked, y'all, what y'all y'all like, nigga, what you
saying career. They seem obviously nobody was listening to me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
I heard what I was saying. He was saying, what
recent movies?

Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
But what we're but the reason what he said, the
reason why I'm saying it's not gatekeeping, which that was
my argument, is because it's so available, and what he's
saying it's egregious is because this is all on every platform.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Niggas are like, you gotta go to to.

Speaker 9 (01:44:25):
Be to get my but it was it was like
my thing was like even if even if even what
you saying career and I'm asking y'all like, well, what
has he done recently?

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Y'all were still cussing out, like nigga.

Speaker 11 (01:44:33):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Right, he's gonna walk on movies. Nigga, Like, bro, let's
get say his career is long. I'm telling you that
I have not.

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
Did you google it?

Speaker 9 (01:44:51):
Like and then you get to see, like while we
just okay here that he got a couple of movies.
I was goo good to see what I what I
actually have solved him. That's like like can I remember?
But what I'm saying is when you asked me a question,
I can't answer because he has a plusor of movies.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
What do you want me to ask? Because but I'm
asking what the most recent movie. I'm like, I'm like,
I'm telling you, but I don't know what you would know.

Speaker 9 (01:45:14):
Because if I say, if I say farc Rison, you
saw Rison, You're gonna go that's I don't know what
that is.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Yeah, but I mean that that would get me, that
would get me names.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
But what I said Black Dynamite and Backman, you was like, oh, okay,
I know what that is. It was years ago, right,
but what but over his career? If you know Spawn,
if you know Black Dynamite, if you know Batman, and
you know Outlaw Johnny Brown, that's at least twenty five
years between Spawn and Outlaw. So I answered your question.

(01:45:45):
Could you be talking about? I gave you a couple
of examples. So if I keep going and you don't
know these movies because you haven't watched them, that's irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
It is wasting my time.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
And I think that's I think the problem of it
is where I'm saying, like y'all have the issue is
because I understood the award, like is a marsh Our
Award and film I'm asking what other movies that he's
done even if I'm telling y'all a couple of movies
that I know of, I'm asking for input on other movies,
and y'all is like nigga, the fact that you ain't
even watch these sucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
And I'm like, bro, I've never said, like y'all, y'all
know this ship to like a guy named.

Speaker 8 (01:46:19):
Weird.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
That's blackness. That's when you say the black you know,
That's what I said. It is because it is this issue.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
D everybody has to be this fandom instead of wanting
to get to tell niggas am maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
You should watch this you you.

Speaker 8 (01:46:45):
Know what I mean? I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
I would have put my listening. That is one of
them protecting people like y'all poach you should.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Know nothing else y'all given answer outside of that, I'm
gonna watch out long tiny what And I guess that
the last thing I'm what.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
I needed to congratulate the bigger forget all they trying
to figure out like what war movers watch him like
if you get in the ward that the Preceige awards
so like, but they let me cant tell him what?

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Then I'm missing out here.

Speaker 11 (01:47:14):
You you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Was then like the way that you asked me. Seemed
like it was about to be the missing of it.
That's why I was like, that's why, seemed.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
Like you want to miss the ward And that's that's
why I'm looking for this specific things.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
I know you mean back and forth, I'm like, what
really going on? Turned?

Speaker 8 (01:47:35):
I was like, what is going a little? The world? Like?

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Why do you get into the war trying? That's why
I was like, what what you want to say that
y'all trying to y'all trying to take to go viral,
like like I sad how much this podcast? And so

(01:48:03):
it's rumored that Doomsday is going to be Patrick Stewart's
last movie. He said.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
It's been saying that he's he's looking to retire last.
Don't want to retire, he's so it's rumored that he's
going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
You know, movie has been his last.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
What I said in our group chat, I told him,
I said, Patrick Stewart has given us everything that we
can ask for as an actor.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
If he says that he's done, I'm okay with the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
As much as I love Pat Stort and pretty much
everything that he's generally here like, I'm a fan of
Patrick Stewart, I would so as much as I love him,
and I'm definitely going to be sad to see him
retired from acting.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Bro, He's given us everything that we can ask for.
I mean, he's a long standing career. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Don't we have to call him sir? Yes we do?
You all right, Yes we do? So you know what
I'm saying. So like, I'm glad he retired. I want
him to not doing much now, but I still he's

(01:49:12):
still like he's still moving.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
I think, like fam, you should have and this ain't
even like it's not just because there's thing what you're
about to say, it's not even just doing because listen,
I also agree more your freeman should too.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
This is like I love that, I know, I know disrespect.
I mean, twenty twenty should have been young like more
you got listen, I agree.

Speaker 9 (01:49:38):
I also I understand where y'all come from. But I
also have an idea that the more you the sooner
you stop, the sooner you go. So I think I've
heard that. I've heard that to have a purpose, purpose
to keep, even if it's a small role, even if
it's nothing too crazy. The only reason why I think
but I also feel you I wish both would have

(01:50:00):
been gone by.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
You know, just retired American dad.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
You here is that like a lot of those actors,
once they retired from like film acting, they'll still do
smaller stage So like I guess I necessarily meant like film,
I don't need you on a film set. Every day
we hear about how hell film set I don't need you,
Like once you get eighty.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Goes into prepping you.

Speaker 9 (01:50:30):
And we're gonna let you do with your days and
saying like just what you gotta thinks, so think of it.
Production ain't no different than when we do production. If
you got an older person, you definitely got a front
load them. Yeah, probably get ship set up for them
just together to do their and you know, probably do
it a couple few times each day.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
So yeah, I definitely agree, Like just what once you
start thinking about the stresses of like an actual film set,
I just doing doing that, Bro, they about to knock
you out that shout that share.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Obviously you're gonna have stunt doubles and stuff. But it's
like even you hear about the stuff about how even
the scenes that aren't stunt scenes are still taxing Bro,
just please relax, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I said, he broke he from from serious roads to
ram comes to sci fi to actually like bro Patrick
Stewart given has given us everything. Morgan Freeman, he's been
in Bro. Morgan Freeman gave a civil rights even even

(01:51:46):
to what you're saying, King, they can find purpose of
you know what. I finally just get to be with
family for the rest.

Speaker 8 (01:51:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Like you know what I'm saying, like like if you
still you still got the bug for acting, I mean
you can put it play together, you can get behind
the production. And he's in that and he's from that realm.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
It was like I would, yeah, become a producer, become
I don't know if you want to become a director
director seems like it's still just as stressful.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
But become a producer.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
But I feel like I would definitely do like like
some theater or whatever, like because that's where you came from.
So I feel like that would be my give back.
It's like to help someone get you know, help them
get to their start to where I got. Like you said,
like I went from theater to film and TV and
all this kind of stuff and I'm giving him back
to theater to get somebody into that same in that
same space. But I'm like, I definitely wouldn't be like

(01:52:38):
I said, bro, they finish had they not got the chair.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
How do y'all how do y'all feel about Avengers Doomsday
being his last film potentially?

Speaker 8 (01:52:46):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
Is that is that a high where y'all putting him
a Warriors?

Speaker 8 (01:52:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
I mean I feel like I feel like he's already
feel that's what he's been part.

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
Of, a to go on the most mondane way possible.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Like I feel like I feel like that's what they've
been give him in this space anyway, Like I said,
we've already we've already seen him get killed.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
That next nap was very traumatic. That should have been
his last one. You want to last one?

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
So he gotta go out triumphant or do you wait?
Do you do you want to go out triumphant?

Speaker 8 (01:53:18):
Or do you go out?

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
You he just tragedy dying.

Speaker 8 (01:53:22):
That was.

Speaker 9 (01:53:24):
A sacrificed That is it is? It is I'm just
a cavity? Or do I go out with killed Patrick
Stewart at least three times? So let's just let this
be over. But how do you want to go out
is my question. You don't want We've seen him die
three I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Don't say Professor X not going out triumphant. I'm sorry
he's gonna say somebody a warrior's death. I don't see it.
Nigga go go he gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
He gonna be the tragic death that like pushed the story.
It's gonna be like so that's still given a meaning
that ain't triumphant, but he estimated.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
But you think you think he is gonna die like
they gotta kill him off if he said this his
last film. Yeah, for sure. You don't think he just
gonnas when I leave you, He just leaves, just like Manett.
Get him out of here. They can get know that
ain't happening. They don't fit to come through it. Enemy

(01:54:24):
called and he can see him like everybody just sending
them off in the dude that rocket. Like, if it's tragic,
did it better be the most tragic n c U
death that we ever seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Like Monday, even if it goes like, they better spend
their gor They gore budget on.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Patrick stores because that's what they're gonna do. Like Patrick, Bro,
what are you tarving about? What I'm saying, if that's
if that's.

Speaker 8 (01:54:53):
If we have to go.

Speaker 9 (01:54:54):
So watching war furnaments and dust wasn't going though, if
watching watching have to.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Face to face wasn't good enough. No, I don't want
I don't want him to die, but I'm saying, but
you know, it better be more going all that. I
still Patrick Stewart ain't doing that.

Speaker 8 (01:55:19):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
I can actually honestly because you know, Patrick Stewart is
actually tied to the Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
You know said X Man.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
You said, so I can really do see them like
because they are supposed to make their parents that it
is just like because I mean you, we're not gonna
get like the X Men, like the Fox X Men
aren't the actual continuation that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Like I think somebody might die in Fox, the entire
Fox X Man, except for some reason he coming back. Yeah,
but I think I think everybody in the Fox first dying,
you know why. But but if a Nigga was a hipocrite.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
Now what you're saying that the cold thing and that
that heard you, I would say the cold thing and
that thing that what I would need and that not
then is that Charles gives Logan.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
Like the non saving you you're saying that kind of
ship like, so you got to get a nod to Logan.
You have to give me that kind of like even
I need you, though I need you Jackoveren to go
to why you need him to go?

Speaker 8 (01:56:33):
I don't you?

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
Jackman told me when Logan came out here, I'm tired
of being Wolverine.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
I'm tired of doing all. That's a lot of reason why,
a reason why I want. I want to branch out
and do other stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:56:48):
Did he did?

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
He said, he said he was done.

Speaker 18 (01:56:51):
He was, he was, he was the video said here
doing what time? I mean he's really he really he
was like, Bro, I don't want to be like I'm
gonna bro.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
If we're getting into the mute inside that we want
to get and we and we wanted, we also want
to breathe new lights.

Speaker 8 (01:57:10):
To the m c U.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
I need new people, know, but you need what.

Speaker 8 (01:57:15):
I need?

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
No, I don't need.

Speaker 19 (01:57:19):
Because they've already established they do it and that's what
they're doing. I'm saying I don't, but I think I
think that they've already established need it. They've already established
that in the story.

Speaker 8 (01:57:33):
So to go.

Speaker 5 (01:57:34):
If you're doing a reboot, as the rumors said, it's
supposed to be a reboot, or.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Said, if you're doing that, all this ship out hard.

Speaker 8 (01:57:49):
Ripping the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Because I do feel like we don't understand that they
doing it, saying, I like you, I don't need it,
but you were setting up for what's the next one?

Speaker 8 (01:57:59):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
I feel like that's really I don't want that either,
but I'm hoping. I mean, I feel like I feel
like they keep him in Like I already know they're
gonna keep him in there here, but it would be
the truest canon to a wolverine. Lord you're saying, to
be a nigga that went through like so much. You're saying,
so he's really the old like nigga, so when people
talk to him, it is like he really I said, Like,

(01:58:20):
if they don't do it, I would be mad at it.
But as long as they keep him in the story,
just like they're a devil, he should be now able
to reference other ship because he's been in others.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
You're saying, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
What you're saying is make said I'm saying as a
consumer and what I want, I don't need that, so
what I mean, but who is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Another Wolverine I don't need an anchor. That's what I
won't trying to tell y'all. I said that from the
get go. I want them to cast, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
I don't know how who already have cast young Wovering
Like I don't understand like when young he was already
met them.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
But you can still be older than without being actually
the actor actually being old.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
You know, you can be you can have the older
Wolverine without the actor being older Wolverine because technically in
the cast that he was originally with he was around
the same age as then, but he was older than him.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
I mean, that's all set up.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
But I mean, like I said, I mean, I guess
that is like that would make it like it would
still be an older person.

Speaker 5 (01:59:17):
It's the same thing like I was saying with DC
when they when they redid their reset. If we're gonna say, hey,
this is a new thing, cut off all the old
like I didn't necessarily need Peacemaker to come back, because
why why are we still having these tangential ties to
this old thing? If you're if you're spending so much
time and effort to tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
This is all, So would y'all be actually comfortable with
like when they start, like, none of it before that
matters the whole point, you know, the whole.

Speaker 5 (01:59:45):
Point of doing the whole point of the whole point
at least it's supposed to be the end in the beginning,
so it does. It will still matter because it was
the end of that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
So what I'm saying, but I mean, like I'm saying,
like you you would want it because for one, since
it's been since has been on the run, they don't
do that like they even if they cut. Even if
they do it so we say remove things out, it's
still a link that keeps the story part of.

Speaker 5 (02:00:12):
So none of this is this will be their first
time doing an actual reset. All of those are just
they messed around with different stories.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
But this will be the first consistent is supposed to
be a reset, which, like I said, if you follow
comic book runs, when they do that, yeah you have
mo like within those first few issues maybe a connection.
But after that when they do that reset, when I said,
when it turned to the new fifty two, whatever happened
previously did not even But I mean, so that's what
I'm looking to.

Speaker 5 (02:00:41):
If they're if they're if they're talking about bringing a
new cap a new Iron Man, a new Black Panther
and all that.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
What the fuck do we want? A same with Ring?

Speaker 8 (02:00:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
But what I mean, but I feel like as one
as I get what y'all saying, and I don't feel
like Ring forever, But I also feel like we're not
going to get it, Like I feel like with Ring
is gonna leave, Like feel like either we getting replaced
by X one or is the fact that Woverene Wovering
will do, like help lead in this new team of
X Men, which he does, and he gonna leave like

(02:01:09):
he does, like you're good now, I'm out of here,
like I said, like it has its own story which
we just would never get no more, because.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
That's how they just walk off with Ring.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
You just never have Woverine in the one like you
would get like the like I would be upset with that.
I don't want to see a Woover.

Speaker 8 (02:01:26):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:26):
I personally don't want to see an X Men team
where without without an act of Wouverine within there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:31):
You personally, I don't just to say you wouldn't be
able to get X twenty three.

Speaker 4 (02:01:36):
But I don't want X twenty three, That's what I'm saying,
Like so I get where they're going. I'm not saying
what the Brent crumbs in the way that they laid
it doesn't make sense. What I'm saying is as a consumer,
and if you call it in a reset, I don't
need it. If we're going back and you're giving me
a young X Men team, give me a new Wouverine,
give me a new Logan, and then give me that team.
I don't want to see the younger version. I'm not

(02:01:57):
invested in the newer version of Wouverine. I'm not invested,
like I don't really want to see X twenty three X.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:02:04):
I want to see Logan with Cyclops with you know
what I'm saying. I want to see him. And I
don't need I don't need Hugh Jackman to be on
I don't I don't need a I don't need a
Wolverine that knows.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
What happened prior prior Doomsday. I don't need that. We
we just got to see how I think it was great.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
About that idea, though, it's because it asks like, if
they do it right, it would add another layer to
Wolverine that wouldn't like that, that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:34):
Would be mc U specific well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Meta, Even the love of Jean Gray and all that
that would be is because he's seeing another you're saying,
like he gets to grow up and be like dog,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
So even that be thing I was like just like
like it's rewarding, like I'm getting you know said, I'm
getting Jane back again. But it makes it, not make
it infinitely more creepy. That's infinitely more it always was.
I don't need I don't need it to be that
meta within the universe. That's what I'm saying. I get
what you're saying. Like I said, it does, I understand
what he needs. I don't need that aspect of my

(02:03:07):
Wolverine to be for that connection of it, I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
I just don't think we're gonna get like I think.
I think what y'all thinking about as far as like
what they did with the original X Men.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
They're gonna do what you're saying. I like what you're saying.
I believe that they're going to do that. I get
My whole thing is as me as a consumer, I
don't need that. I just don't.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
I don't don't believe. I don't think y'all for me personally,
I don't think people understand that. I actually believe that
x ME, like Wolo Ring, isn't part of the X
Men like he, like I said, he's an anchor that's
gonna play his part with them.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
Helped him out and he's gonna be gone like that's
just like like x ME Wolvering.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
This gonna be the first time that they can do
wolver Ring like that where he always was and inside
our X Men, he wasn't really always so he could
actually leave and do some ship with that, like Bro,
they can make see what they want to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
And grab, like Bro, I need you like which, and
they definitely set it up like that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
But like I said, so, but what I believe when
they talk about we finna get to the house means
an x ME and whatever. I do believe Woovere's gonna
play a part in it, but I think the focus
really is like the actual core team of X Men,
like Wooverine is a tour team of X Men, but
he's also in and out.

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
But I don't want that story. I don't want the
in and out story of Woverine. I want Wouverine ass
horror member of X Men. That's what I'm saying that
what you're saying is definitely how they kind of already
positioned it, and probably do they probably lead to because
like I said, it doesn't make sense to have a
young X Men team and have this old ass Wouverine,
So they'll probably do exactly what you said.

Speaker 5 (02:04:30):
There's no confirmation that Hugh Jackman is saying.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
I was just going to say that because that Wolverine
state was Yeah, that's not the main that's definitely it's people.

Speaker 5 (02:04:43):
It's people taking He said that he will never say
never again when somebody asked him, and people are saying
that they saw him on the set of doing so
he might appear in Dooms today that I mean, probably
he's doing to appearing dums that feel like that's I
think that I feel like that's more so given. But
people are taking rumors and like his statements, and.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
It's one of those things where I find was again
where I lead it is that I don't want him
to stay and also feel like truthfully like Wolverine, Hugh
Jackman and Wolverine and Doomsday is the Fox, I don't
think we're gonna get the Yellow Black like because he's
gonna be part of that cast.

Speaker 3 (02:05:22):
Of X Men, Like I'm like, and that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
That's even well, No, I think he knows now, Like
I said with with with Wolverine Deadpool and Wolverine, that
Wolverine knows about the Fox cast but also knows about
what's going on in I think because it'll be it'll
be to me and it will definitely be kind of
productive if they erase everything that he learned in Deadpool
and Woverine, like.

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
He has to be that that it has to be
a continuation of that Wolverine.

Speaker 9 (02:05:46):
That so, y'all, I think y'all confusing it So technically
the Fox Wolverine died and that was a variant from
a different world, right, But it is, like you say,
the live action of the cartoons. Yeah, so technically, in
my opinion, that will really might they might appear, but

(02:06:08):
that also might be like how Fantastic four isn't a
separate universe, but because they travel to Maine universe, it
might be that oh yeah, yeah, reach out in the
movie main universus. X Men will be a different cast,
will be a completely difference what I want exactly what
that's exactly what I want.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
It's because the idea.

Speaker 5 (02:06:31):
I think this really is to like, we have everything,
we sort of told you all of these are interconnected.
We're going to give you what is pure going forward.
And I think that really is where they're talking about, Hey,
we're gonna have a new Cat, We're gonna have a
new Man back, We're gonna have new X.

Speaker 3 (02:06:48):
Men, and included in that X Men is going to
be a new ring.

Speaker 9 (02:06:51):
So and what I think it could be is how
they have how X twenty three was the conversation to
Fluid Wolverine and Deadpool Wolverine. I think Wolverine, Hugh Jackman
Wolverine will be the catalyst for Maine Universe Wolverine to
understand that pork like look, should I've been through like

(02:07:13):
Frais to give him that that tribute to my career,
all the shit I've been through, whether it was all
these X Man movies, whether it's my own movie, whether
it was this or that, you know, you gotta stay this,
you gotta stay true. And that's what I think is
gonna be that push for that to become like the
next accepted wolver Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
I mean, I definitely feel like if anybody of anybody
in the movie or in the serial or instead of
going up, two rings are gonna meet, Like it's gonna
be a definitely like like there ain't gonna be too
many duplicated characters, but if they are gonna add a
new Wolverine, they gonna have to meet.

Speaker 9 (02:07:44):
But I think John, even though because they were saying
that about Robert Downey Jr. Like they only really wanted
him for one kind of movie, I kind of think
that that's what's gonna be. I think they're gonna put
him in that position where he's gonna play Dune and
then he's gonna go away and it'll be a totally
separate person there because I think what they like, like
you said, it's gonna be like getting rid of the

(02:08:05):
last bit of the older cast. How can we transition
y'all out, We're gonna have to do a various squat
or we're gonna have to do like a war where
we people die, and then we're gonna have to pull
you from another universe and be like, look, man, we
need you because it's something that we got.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
Even in the doom thing, like yeah, we all expect
them doctor like Robert don June to be doomed, but
it could be like another universe Doom that kills Robert.

Speaker 4 (02:08:28):
Yeah, well this is going to be the end of
Robert Downey Junior's Doom for sure, because they said this
Doom is a real was a result of what actually
happened in the endgame that snap, like the they came out.
They have already talked about that, like there's a connection
to that, right, and so my theory is this is
that like whatever happened with that Snap or whatever happened

(02:08:50):
with the Time Heist, this Doom is from whatever that universe.

Speaker 3 (02:08:53):
But this Doom is not going to prevail.

Speaker 4 (02:08:54):
He's going to win probably in Doom's day, but when
they do the actual battle war, that's going to be
the end of that and we might not get another
Doom storyline until a while. You gotta think Fantastic four,
they have so many villains that they can pull from.
They don't always only have to go up against Doom.
So they have so like I said, they can circle
back to a different Doom. But I don't believe that
we get Robert Downie junr As Doom.

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Past the Battle World movie.

Speaker 4 (02:09:17):
I feel like that's going to be the end because
they already are trying to give us bread crumb, saying
like oh no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
This was linked to Infinity War an endgame.

Speaker 4 (02:09:25):
So I feel like whatever they're gonna finish, this is
going to be the triumphant end of that storyline with
their And again, like you said, once we introduce whatever
the new cast is, then we can get into all
these other new stories. You gotta think in order for
them to tell some of these other stories with these
other villains and everything like that, they gotta do this
reset because then you're gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (02:09:43):
Wait, what happened to all these other characters?

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
What happened to all these other villains, Like when they
should have popped up early on before Thanos, before the snap.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
So they got to like you said, they got to
kill off some people. They got to end this story.
What we let's end on the bad, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
Like, even with the fact that they keep on talking
about possibly bringing back King, it could be a situation
where it's like, all right, you know what, we need
to reset everything. If we are going to bring back King,
we got it. We need a villain that we can
kill off or whatever the case may be. They may
be using dooma Okay, we can use Doom link it
to the Infinity War and endgame, so that way still
makes sense in this run of it. Do this reset

(02:10:21):
and then we can later on get the King because
King does have a huge, huge connection with the Fantastic
Four as well. So it's like, all right, what story
do we do we like if we like the King dynasty,
but then because of the legal shit and everything that happened,
we end up having a pivot. All right, let's how
can we save this and get back to it, or
let's bring in Doom.

Speaker 2 (02:10:41):
Let's do this story, because Doom story we can you
know what I'm saying, we can always get back to
But King is a more larger story with a team
up that requires the Avengers.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
If we want to get back to that, if we
did or even leave that door open, let's.

Speaker 9 (02:10:55):
Think they lift the door open, especially when it came
to like how they did King and how they did
Collect can get them to both the same way.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
You just pretty much wish the bad guy.

Speaker 9 (02:11:03):
Yeah, and I also feel like that's something that they
could use as for the intro of Doom, but like
in a cahoots way, because you already know the storyline
goes where Doom can sometimes be a helper for his
own benefit. Like I think that'll be probably the direction

(02:11:27):
that they plan, because like, what other way could you
really go at this point, Like y'all, y'all said, y'all
way from having one guy who you thought wasn't a
bad enough.

Speaker 3 (02:11:35):
Character to where now you got.

Speaker 9 (02:11:39):
Galactus on the inland you know where, And you said,
Doom now is introduced what angle?

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
We don't know?

Speaker 4 (02:11:46):
And that's that's that's the reason why I believe Doom
is like not necessarily a throw away, but they're using
him as a throw way because you can jump back
to that story so easily, because.

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
You gotta think. I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:11:58):
I've always had an issue with going straight to Doom
because that said, there was really no lead up to Doom.
So the fact that they're trying to rent kind and
be like, oh yeah, no, we did, like you know
what I'm saying, and they're pulling out, you know what
I'm saying, trying to drop these easter as. I feel
like they're like, all right, we gotta make sense to
do this reset. We need a villain that we can
kind of really you know what I'm saying, Give a big.

(02:12:18):
You know what I'm saying, ending to let's just do
Doom real quick, because once we reset, we can get
back to Doom.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
We can do like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:12:25):
It's like they needed something because that you gotta remember
that King Dynasty when they first announced that slate that
was supposed to be years worth of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:12:35):
This Doom thing seems like he's gonna get wrapped up
in three years.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
They they mark for what we from everything Marvel and
the NCU and Figy and them has shown us they
don't wrap shit up in that. And they gave us
multi story arts for they like the Eternal is going
to play a big part, like they've always said that.
With Doo, they were just like, all right, you know what,
we're gonna do this adventures and in this adventures, I
think it's too quick.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
Prior to dude, was there a victor in the universe?
They're gonna tell us they are so, I mean trying
to tie Tony like even higher man Tony.

Speaker 5 (02:13:11):
So I was reading more on the like what the
Russo brothers statement was, and they didn't obviously they didn't
give too much because you know, it sounds like it's
going to be a lot of the.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
Film, but.

Speaker 5 (02:13:27):
I think it goes into a lot of the theories
that people were having about how the Snap and so
what Lucky sort of tried to explain the season two
is like how it sort of impacted not necessarily the
Snap itself at the time, how it impacted so many
different storylines, and how it messed up stuff in so
many different storylines.

Speaker 3 (02:13:45):
Whatever that is.

Speaker 5 (02:13:47):
It probably created that version of doctor Doom. Now, what
could what they could do if they wanted to make
sure they could still have a Doom moving forward that
doesn't have to.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
Be Tony start.

Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
You could have a Victor in that Fantastic four universe
whatever happens to the end of that universe and over
the course of Doomsday who sort of becomes inspired Tony
Stark words like I'm gonna I'm gonna adopt I'm a
Victor Ron Doomer, Like I'm just.

Speaker 3 (02:14:17):
Because remember the Russo said They was like, oh, Robert
Downey Jr. He He always already played that was that
was the part of the statement. They were like, we're
not going to give you. We can't give you much
because it's a part of his story.

Speaker 5 (02:14:29):
But I will say that there was nobody else who
could play this version of Doctor Doom who could play
this character the way he's about to essentially the rest
of that sentiment.

Speaker 2 (02:14:38):
But that actually made sense, like when you'll talk about
the Time Heights, because I mean, of course the Time
Heights was them fucking with Tony. Start to get the
the uh you have to put the stones back. So
it's like that whatever they even if they were to
do a flashback to show what actually like happened after
they did that, like it could literally be you know,

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make that story.

Speaker 3 (02:15:00):
So you got to think, well, we think about it
in that uh in.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
That movie about even when Captain Marriage is gone, it's like, bro,
what did you do while he was gone?

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
You said?

Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
And all of those can literally play into creating. You're
saying this whole set like.

Speaker 9 (02:15:14):
When you gotta think Loki yourself created a variant of
Tony because that was the test ract that he was
supposed to get, right, So you gotta think that that
one right there. You could also go from there with
that and make that anych other Like it's I get
what I get, what I get what they were saying,
because I also thinking, like how the comic version went
that's my theory, my theory, it will be like a

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hijacked Tony more than they'll be actual Tony.

Speaker 3 (02:15:39):
But then again, the way that they played.

Speaker 9 (02:15:43):
With all the theories, I could see it being Tony,
like you say, influenced by a Victor von b do
you know, because I.

Speaker 5 (02:15:51):
Don't even know if this Doom and Doomsday his name
might not Actually they.

Speaker 8 (02:15:57):
Might.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
That's why I said that, like we don't know which
comic from you, And even the.

Speaker 9 (02:16:04):
Fact that he visited that universe is Fantastic four. It's
like it's gotta be something deeper. He has to know
something more about all the worlds than just like regular tont.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
But like I said, I said, my theory is always
the fact that if like in my theory, it is
the fact that this doom, like the Tony started, you know,
the Tony start to become a dope. Doom is approached
by doom. You're saying, like from you're saying, like to
help him do whatever you like to do. You're saying so,
like I said, if they were to actually just use
Tony's story from a moment that captain, you know, put
things in motion, that Doom drops into that tone and

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they be like you know what I'm saying, I see
you lost this or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:16:41):
I didn't even see that.

Speaker 9 (02:16:42):
I can see it being like coming from a catalyst
of what Captain America did, like how he took the
stone back and lived a life. I can see a
Tony start like the one Verian like you know what,
I'm not going back and just like I'm gonna just
do what I want. I got to sue, I'm gonna
travel around. I'm gonna do a bunch of different things.
And then he learned probably over his travels, same way
Kinge did, like how the universe really work, how time

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really works.

Speaker 2 (02:17:06):
Yeah, because I mean even in the comics or the
animate shore whatever it wasn't like wasn't wasn't Tony prepared
for galactics too, But how did like in the story
like in the story We're Doomed, like or you know
in the story where Doom put up on Tony to
a like to provide him assistance. But I can't remember
who the threat they were fighting though, like it was

(02:17:26):
I don't know if it was in the comic books,
Revi was in one of the cartoons. But there's actually
like the scene of like ou to Doum actually approached
his twenty start and they have this quick fight whatever.
Then he realizes like I'm actually Henna, I can help you,
Like you don't know that he's actually swindling, but it's like,
but I don't I can't remember the threat that twenty
was fighting that he actually was like I could use
your help because Doom had all this other intergalactic information

(02:17:48):
or whatever. So like that, I said, like that really
could be whatever timeline that Captain America effects, they can
actually have another threat that just come in, like even
they just doing a quick threat of somebody and iron
Man doesn't know what to do, and the like this
how Doom appears to them, And like you said, you
get to inspired by becoming Doom by you knowing about
the help that he get about all they given or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
But I do agree with that, like like what y'all
even saying with ring do them all.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
That like and using these people that we like they
gotta go, like you would have some way Tony makes
more sense than anything that like he's what is doing
and it will be a new dune you're saying, And
like I said.

Speaker 3 (02:18:25):
Even how I say about like with wovering it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
I forget, I actually forgot about that that you this
Hugh jacksman wolverine that we're expecting to see is not
the fox. That's just you're saying. So it's like and
even in that spects place of Dared Devil woover Ring,
they kind of showed like they had all these hues
and they threw that random assy like to be.

Speaker 3 (02:18:52):
Anybody because you don't know where university traveled to it
that right, So it's.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
Like, so you could, like I said, like the wolverine
that we get that man Nightey seven Woaverringe could be
a completely different wover Raine that just meets you're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:19:04):
And that's really what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
Because even in that and that's what I mean by
the anchor of the thing, you don't got to be
like he's anchored under the universe around. But he's like
he said, he would tell that Woverine like, hey, I
lost my whole team for me being this shit or
doing whatever whatever, and I saved the universe.

Speaker 3 (02:19:19):
Like I did these things.

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
But he's telling him, like he's not saying that you
are physically an anchor, but he's telling him like your
actions with your team is gonna really like, don't lose
your team like I lost mind.

Speaker 9 (02:19:30):
Because I think that would even coincide with the comics.
How those old, the older comic runs where he did
go berserk and kill everybody, or he did disappear and
everybody died by Sentinel or something like that, these new
comics where it's like, nah, these niggas are still you know, growing, yeah,
mad and off up. Now he turned it into like

(02:19:50):
a fucking werewolf. Like I could see them going that
rock where they like, look, we're not gonna do that.
We're gonna actually focus on the newer version and maybe
keep this a team and let everybody excel and change
their own you know whatever, to keep mutating. So that's
my theory only because of that, Like bro wouldn't make sense,

(02:20:10):
especially hear if Harry Cavell leaves d C come over here,
probably already did so many you know, I'm saying scenes
already put that together.

Speaker 3 (02:20:20):
Harry call too tall.

Speaker 12 (02:20:24):
A ring.

Speaker 8 (02:20:29):
Ring bro very.

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
But they showed you in the movie if y'all wanted
to comic that only looked weird because you knew it
was Hugh Jackman. It looked weird because it was weird. No,
it only looked weird. Look it looked you are like,
why is this a short? That's why weird? Like that
wasn't a real person. So y'all want to dwarf to Wolverine.

Speaker 8 (02:20:55):
Seven.

Speaker 5 (02:20:56):
I think he's five too, But you know who's also fight.
I don't not saying I want him to be Wolverene.

Speaker 3 (02:21:03):
But what's his name? Not Daniel Craig.

Speaker 5 (02:21:09):
Let's let's be real, but they also some people have
casted him fails playing Harry Potter. I forgot his flash.

Speaker 3 (02:21:21):
He's too small, he's fin he's five, but he's.

Speaker 7 (02:21:24):
Been He's still too small.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
But he wants that woveringe Rob.

Speaker 8 (02:21:32):
I know he do.

Speaker 3 (02:21:33):
He wants to just like how method Man wants to
be what's the.

Speaker 2 (02:21:36):
Name wants to be bishop, like Daniel Ratcliffe wants to
be the new I respected. He's old enough too, and
like you got the age on you, like I respected
who I respected, And.

Speaker 9 (02:21:54):
I'm not mad at Henry cavill. But I don't have
a from I'm not I'm not I'm not on the
Henry Cavill one.

Speaker 8 (02:22:00):
I don't have.

Speaker 9 (02:22:00):
I don't have I don't have the front run it
is so I just watched Dave Rectliff in that Amazon
movie he got where he like stuck in the Amazon Yea, yeah, nigga,
angry face ain't there for me, Like your rage face
has to fit like a battle face. And he doesn't
give that off. I mean, you're gonna be looking like

(02:22:21):
and I don't want that for my guy. Damn, I
don't have a front runner. I don't have an actor
in mind.

Speaker 3 (02:22:26):
So he's five five. I feel like if you go
to five five, five six, who's that. That's what I'm saying,
you don't got to be.

Speaker 9 (02:22:32):
You don't go to dude from Kingsman, the one who
played the main But he would have wroke up then though.

Speaker 3 (02:22:41):
But he's already got the cut, like he already looks
like he can be you know what I'm saying, A fighter. Yeah,
because yes he's it was crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:22:49):
You know, I haven't seen him rugged yet. Like I said,
most of the time I've seen him, he's been polished. Whatever,
I got it, I gotta see it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:55):
I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 4 (02:22:56):
I just I still got to see it. I still
I need some six. I still I still got some
of the vincent. But right now I don't have a
front runner who I want, But I just don't need to.

Speaker 3 (02:23:06):
You, man, I can't.

Speaker 5 (02:23:09):
I can't see him as Wolverine because I saw him
in uh as Elmon John.

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
And it's not even like he did great is that rong?
But everything else he did, I'm like, look at faith
Elton John else, like I.

Speaker 9 (02:23:20):
Said, like Buzz in the water, rod Bus in the wire. Bro,
he's such a great actor. But every time I see,
every time I see he's just he.

Speaker 2 (02:23:27):
Just looked like a recovery cracks like together.

Speaker 3 (02:23:31):
I'm like, Bro, the actor crack at all. But he
played that role so well, that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (02:23:36):
He'd be killed in it.

Speaker 3 (02:23:37):
Plenty of roles. I'm like, look, look at Elton John.
Get a job on the side.

Speaker 9 (02:23:41):
Because that was the last movie with the airport thing
he was. He did a good job in that. I
could have saw him playing Wolverine like that.

Speaker 8 (02:23:50):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:23:50):
Let's see running Taron Egerton. Let's get into recommendations. Man,
I'm gonna go first. I know some of y'all, I
think I think one of y'all definitely recommend this before.
But I just started watching the Grim variations when Netflix
is like they're telling like just it's like the dark

(02:24:11):
version of Disney of the classics.

Speaker 8 (02:24:13):
Not this story.

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
Grim Variations is good.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Like so they telling like those fairy tales like Red
Riding Hood, Hansel and Greto, but it's just a horror
version of it. It's on Netflix. Man, that first episode
they jump it off with the Cinderella story and man,
that that twist I did not see coming. So that
would be my recommendation.

Speaker 4 (02:24:35):
And uh, when go back and watch the boone Dox,
I was, I was doing my rewatch, So Boondox is good.
Rewatch Man, It's hilarious how relevant some of those jokes
are today. Like it was like, well, like I said,
we got to start giving boondocks the Simpsons treatment.

Speaker 3 (02:24:54):
Yeah, we gotta start giving Yeah. So that was my recommendations.

Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
I'm an recommen and the Monster who Wants to Eat Me?
It's a it's an anime crunchy Roll. I only seen
the first episode, but the first episode was interesting as
hell because the girl she like, I don't know why
she's so deprived, Think she lost her family or something.
I don't really tell much about it, but she she
ghosts like she's monsters are trying to eat her.

Speaker 3 (02:25:19):
And this one lady.

Speaker 5 (02:25:21):
This one girl pops up, She's like.

Speaker 3 (02:25:22):
I'm gonna protect you. Protects her.

Speaker 5 (02:25:24):
That tells her like, I'm actually gonna be the one
to eat you. But until I'm ready to eat you,
I gotta make sure you stay safe because it's something
like you're gonna taste better if you're happy.

Speaker 3 (02:25:45):
So she she is a mermaid. So but you when
you see her, she like she can transform into that form.
Essentially women women freaking.

Speaker 8 (02:25:54):
Hope not.

Speaker 3 (02:25:58):
Women wanted to eat you, like and your juicier, your
taste better when you.

Speaker 5 (02:26:02):
Have I've only watched the first episode. It was like
I was strolling down Crunchry. It's like it was like
one of the horror things like that, to watch a
decent horror anime looking at that.

Speaker 3 (02:26:17):
Need more I want looking at the episode.

Speaker 8 (02:26:20):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (02:26:21):
You know what's funny because like I said, I've been
watching the Imminence of Shadow, right, bro, I don't know
what they what happened after episode twenty, but they bro
the last five episodes been pure fan service.

Speaker 3 (02:26:33):
I said, wait a minute, the first nineteen episode.

Speaker 8 (02:26:36):
Let me let me service.

Speaker 5 (02:26:37):
I think there's there are eight episodes out right now,
let me see how crazy it can get how anime
it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
Recommendation as of now next podcast.

Speaker 8 (02:26:47):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (02:26:49):
Anime do that, doyn't bring you in, no fan service,
and all of a sudden, this is pure fans, So
you're like.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
What what the hell happened? It was because, like I said,
the premiset was interested. She's like I said she was.

Speaker 5 (02:26:58):
She was getting attacked. H the girl come up and
save her. Tell her like I I picked my meal. Basically,
I'm picking my meal. I want you to be my male,
but I only want to eat you at the right time.

Speaker 3 (02:27:08):
It's okay, you know, I mean because they gave me.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
I mean that's black Butler, like the Black Butler thing
Black Butler like they I'll be your servant, but when
you get to this certain peak.

Speaker 3 (02:27:17):
Yeah, that's sort of the vibe I got. So I'm
really hoping it don't switch up crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:27:25):
It's gonna be definitely some freaky scenes her like I
feel like that mine would be. It's just Netflix show.

Speaker 3 (02:27:32):
I just started.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
I just watched it was a mercy for no One
that possable. Netflix is coming pretty much a martial arts movie.

Speaker 3 (02:27:40):
Uh. It was actually really really good.

Speaker 2 (02:27:42):
It's funny it's it's funny as hell to me because
like the main guy gives me like John Wick slash
Frankenstein vibes, because saying that like a high mess up
is like the uh slitters slittters, So you got like
a But he the way he hit niggas, like niggas

(02:28:02):
like it's like everybody your clothes lined, like when he like.

Speaker 3 (02:28:05):
Niggas be run up and he punched and niggas flipping
off the punch and.

Speaker 2 (02:28:08):
Just like crash it and like he like even like
and so like as far as like the actual martial
arts of it, he's like he's more of a broad
rock to me, I can say, but he really like
it's like, bro, I don't understand how you just strong,
Like I don't really get like what you're doing to
really like be knocking niggas out.

Speaker 3 (02:28:26):
But and he really moves and it's like mute.

Speaker 2 (02:28:28):
Like dead eyes like just like wandering so like so like,
but it's it's about pretty much really easy. Like I said,
my story brother died, you know the mouth like they
kicked him out for a reason. He's like, well, if
I'm leave, y'all gotta pic you know, take care of
my brother. And his brother got killed, so he brought
his ass back. You know what I'm saying, Like you

(02:28:49):
know I'm saying and like, but now he's like he's
pretty much doing his whole like like those all those movies,
like I'm gonna run through all of y'all to y'all
tell me what the fuck up to my brother? You're saying,
so it's like one of those movies where he our
shows like eight episodes.

Speaker 3 (02:29:02):
But I thought that was really good, and I've been
I've been hearing about that. Sisters said all her fault on.
What's I've been hearing that was your recommend you just
you could you should have waited, But you get to

(02:29:22):
break it down. I mean, I mean that is fair.
You should have waited.

Speaker 8 (02:29:30):
Recommendation.

Speaker 3 (02:29:31):
I got excited.

Speaker 8 (02:29:33):
I got excited.

Speaker 3 (02:29:34):
Was not gonna say shut out before I got my
second one.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
My second would be pretty much to watch the Michael
Jay White films.

Speaker 3 (02:29:48):
So your people gonna you hate you can treat you
like and treat you like. She don't say on live.
You know what I'm saying. When you when you just
asked a question, So don't like me, watch every don't
don't be like me Michael j. Whi is a legend.

Speaker 2 (02:30:02):
Know every fucking movie this nigga ever made, anything he's
ever did, you should know some fucking moves.

Speaker 3 (02:30:08):
Like you should know about White. You should know, you
should know how to do it straight.

Speaker 2 (02:30:14):
But you better know born and raised everything you need
to know. Like I said, Wikipedia, the nigga get everything
in together. But watching Michael Joi White films because he
won an award for his career, So if you didn't
know he had a career like I didn't, apparently you're saying,
make sure y'all watching Michael joh White film.

Speaker 3 (02:30:33):
Y'all make sure y'll clipped that. You're saying, like Michael
jo White's career, you're saying for people they don't know,
you're saying, uh.

Speaker 9 (02:30:44):
King uh So, I'm not sure if anybody else recommended this,
but I'm watching Tusion.

Speaker 8 (02:30:53):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:30:56):
It is.

Speaker 9 (02:30:57):
Uh it is what you said though, Like it starts
it off the kind of heart wrenching and and like
you chill and then they go right for fast.

Speaker 8 (02:31:06):
But it's good.

Speaker 9 (02:31:07):
It's really good. It's as well, is it.

Speaker 12 (02:31:14):
You?

Speaker 8 (02:31:15):
I like it.

Speaker 9 (02:31:16):
I like it, but I feel like I don't like
the bloss So this is I'm gonna say this if
you If you, if you get past episode five, which
I feel like is the training arc where they tell
people of all the blood and you get to the
part where they actually fight the momotorrow, you will love
this series.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
So that's my thing. Like I was first like I
don't know about this. I had to cut it off.
It was just kind of dry. It was like or
like bleach. And then the more I watched it, I
was like, oh, this service. It gets so blatant where
it's like.

Speaker 9 (02:31:52):
The girl in the background all everyone all, I ain't
seen one real freaky talk to us, Like.

Speaker 3 (02:32:02):
Like I was really like, bro like the girl being
a freaking They like, oh you looking.

Speaker 8 (02:32:07):
I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (02:32:11):
Y'all like a bunch of kids, and she's like they're
about to take you home, nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
Like that's crazy. It's one of those ones that's like
get but it's still good to be fair, it got
four and a half start on the top.

Speaker 9 (02:32:22):
It's it came out the same time it's Got Your
cut Again and they both like competing. So I'll definitely
mess with it. If you do like got your cud Again,
You're definitely like this. If you keep watching. And then
my second since big Sis Chris had to get wrincked.
Now he was definitely right. It is a good show series.

(02:32:46):
I'm rewatching Stranger Things. It's definitely a good rewatch at
this point because it's like a lot of ship. Yeah,
a lot of things that happened. Knowing that you know,
we coming up into the final season. So if you
have it, if you are a fan, I definitely recommend
you to go ahead watch because I think it comes
out next week.

Speaker 3 (02:33:07):
Give it so check that out. Man. That's my that's
my trip.

Speaker 6 (02:33:12):
Well, I ain't really been watching too much New Ship,
but uh, something I have been running back watching snow
fall Back. Yeah, it started off with so such promise
and it you know, kind of devolved a little bit
to me.

Speaker 8 (02:33:31):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:33:32):
And then something else I rewatched just off of GP
and it's because I saw it on my homepage on
Netflix was The Green Mile.

Speaker 12 (02:33:45):
I haven't rewatched The Green woud it's so long I
don't know, But I hadn't watched The Green Miles so
long time.

Speaker 8 (02:33:56):
Yeah I have.

Speaker 6 (02:33:57):
I hadn't either, And I'm like, let me just throw
this on and bring you like I've never seen it.
I'm like, you've never seen the Green Mile whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:34:03):
Man, it's really crazy. Stephen King, Like you're saying like,
I've never seen ruts. Why what school you go to?
The ain't No, you didn't NBS. They didn't get no
substitute teachers or some ship.

Speaker 8 (02:34:19):
They're like this.

Speaker 3 (02:34:25):
Three teachers came in.

Speaker 4 (02:34:26):
I watched I watched it twice in the school and
once at the time we watched it every year. Yeah,
I watched all of them.

Speaker 3 (02:34:33):
Whatever came out that later in life when we had YouTube,
it was hitting colors. Makes makes you so bad? My
grandma had it on v H. I still never seen that.
I've never I wasn't expecting you to go see it
outside of the school experience. I'm not telling you that
you should have been at home. I thought Roots was

(02:34:54):
part of a school thing.

Speaker 8 (02:34:56):
I've never you.

Speaker 3 (02:34:59):
Never know not this ain't even if you don't mean,
if you do, you will understand why.

Speaker 4 (02:35:09):
I also saw it at the crib because that's something
definitely not possib put On put On.

Speaker 3 (02:35:13):
It's crazy that was by the top was in it though.

Speaker 8 (02:35:20):
History.

Speaker 3 (02:35:21):
My dad was like, I need to movie Rust is
a good move. I'm not saying good movies for what
reason do I need to see? It's really nothing.

Speaker 8 (02:35:32):
You know what I mean? Like, here we out you crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:35:41):
All over again? Not something I feel like I need
to see. I support black movie. This recommendation is going
off the rail. You have to watch it.

Speaker 9 (02:35:52):
I'm just saying I support black movies, so I at
least expect some people to have watched something.

Speaker 3 (02:35:57):
Oh yeah, I mean if you like he said he if.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
I'm telling you don't know if you one of the
reasons to watch it now in this twenty twenty five and.

Speaker 3 (02:36:03):
Still I think it's still I think it's a RELEVVI.
You think it's still relevant.

Speaker 2 (02:36:06):
You want to hate white people, you want to be
like I'm fine, Like I feel like that's what I
feel like.

Speaker 3 (02:36:11):
That's what I did.

Speaker 8 (02:36:13):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (02:36:13):
Fifteen years? Slave? Gave me roots energy all over years?
Watching that fifteen years, three more years? You watch it

(02:36:34):
like I'm going to watch You the Slave. I'm like,
brof they playing this in school?

Speaker 8 (02:36:38):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (02:36:41):
Because the reason I didn't watch You the Slave, I
was like, you know what, I've seen enough route, I've
seen enough of that.

Speaker 3 (02:36:46):
Yeah right, so, but I don't know what Doug is also,
he might have seen it.

Speaker 8 (02:36:51):
Like, no, no, no, I'm so.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
I'm not talking about more So, Doug.

Speaker 8 (02:36:54):
I'm talking about more So.

Speaker 3 (02:36:55):
I still believe that kids should be introduced to Roots. Yes, no, yes,
I do agree with that because this is my thing.

Speaker 7 (02:37:02):
You think you think Trump's schools is going to show Roots.
I don't need to come on on Saturday mornings. But
to keep it real too, I wouldn't want to show
my young kids. I wouldn't want to show them, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (02:37:20):
So my thing is I feel like Roots is suitable
enough for kids or teenagers or young kids to digest it,
to understand that it wasn't that it happened, you know
what I'm saying, not that, because that's the thing. If
we sit here and get comfortable with saying, oh, I've
seen it, it ain't about us, because then they'll be like, oh,
because it can happen again.

Speaker 11 (02:37:40):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:37:40):
I'm saying, if you, if you don't let a person know,
don't let people put you in this position. Because I
still remember me as a kid watching it. That would
never happen to me, right, And that's my attitude today.

Speaker 3 (02:37:51):
That will never happen to be. But also, if I
don't let them know that this could happen. If it did,
they might go, you're a parent like you do gotta
you got a reason you gotta see you give that
same speech without having to see that. No, exactly, like
you know what I mean, I'm just saying, it's like

(02:38:12):
forgive you those.

Speaker 8 (02:38:15):
Like you don't. I'm I'm just saying the movie, you know,
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:38:33):
List so again to put a button on it.

Speaker 9 (02:38:36):
What I'm saying, I'm not noting people for not choosing
their kids to it, but if somebody is their kids
to it, I'm like, yes, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:38:42):
Still it's still relevant or reason why to introduce your
kids to it? Yeah, like balance like that I want
to watch. I'm like, go ahead, I'm not gonna sit
here what you.

Speaker 8 (02:38:54):
Know yourself? Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:39:01):
So you telling me you don't take herself and you
just gonna be the other room watching football and ship.
I mean absolute.

Speaker 8 (02:39:10):
You know I didn't want to see it there.

Speaker 2 (02:39:14):
As a as a as an adult, now I would
and of course he's money grown, but I would not
want to have like I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:39:21):
Have to do that in school, I asked question to
the teacher, like why they doing that to do?

Speaker 8 (02:39:25):
You know? I don't want to hear that bother. How
you want me like that? Man?

Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
Look it was mad, it was really bad. I don't
want to do that. At some point, Look man, I'm
that father. So we got to have a talk.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
Now you now you kid going to school the bar
talking and call all the way to be cracking like
hate y'all?

Speaker 3 (02:39:51):
Did I tell you my calling I don't call him?

Speaker 2 (02:39:55):
Did did I tell you about my story of calling
schools crackers for like years?

Speaker 3 (02:40:00):
So my dad had this song, We'll go about doctor
Martin Luther kinge right. It was by him.

Speaker 2 (02:40:05):
No, Dad, give me wrong about doctor Martin Luther king Right.
It was a rap, one of the It was one
of the very first raps that I learned. Right now,
he's talking about doctor mart Luther king life.

Speaker 4 (02:40:16):
And at one point he said, some sucker crack cracker
tried to kill the dream put a bullet in the
head of doctor Martin Luther king Right.

Speaker 3 (02:40:22):
That was the bar. When I tell you, from second
grade to fifth grade, I was on every black history program,
performing in front of the school. Some second till sixth grade.
A black teacher was like, hey, you can't say that.
That's I can't say what cracker. I'm like, what do
you mean?

Speaker 8 (02:40:42):
I did not know. I ad.

Speaker 3 (02:40:49):
That's crazy. I took a black teacher to be like, no, brother,
you ain't do that. White teachers like we're not touching.

Speaker 8 (02:40:55):
That was that was his teacher.

Speaker 3 (02:40:58):
She don't come here like what you're doing. This class
go get you, go get you boys. She looked over
like you.

Speaker 8 (02:41:06):
She was over the.

Speaker 3 (02:41:12):
Principal got the biggest.

Speaker 8 (02:41:22):
Bro. Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:41:23):
I even broke that.

Speaker 2 (02:41:24):
I was in the class called forensics. It was pretty
much like smoking words ship. I even slowed it down,
did it and smoking word?

Speaker 3 (02:41:30):
Get that crack on, bro, hit that crack.

Speaker 8 (02:41:34):
That's got.

Speaker 3 (02:41:36):
That's tough, that's tough. That's you've been. You've been a
problem nigga.

Speaker 9 (02:41:42):
That wow, that's wiping what card he feels the way
you feel good about him. I'm not doing that, you know,
but I'm not doctor rumar o g recommendation. Since you
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