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August 12, 2025 • 81 mins
Kirklin and Dylan talk about the games they've been playing and the Nintendo Direct.

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Quests
0:00:00 intro
0:04:15 Cairn/Jusant
0:10:00 Ready Or Not
0:37:00 How Fish is Made
0:43:25 Nintendo Indie World

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show. Here Achy Curse, I'm your host, Dylan
LUs Night with me, the mew Plez, Kirklan Batzer. How
are you doing today, my friend, I'm doing very good.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, we had a powerful weekend full of GKI contents.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It was nice to see you in person.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
And this is a rare podcast that we're in the
same city. Well I'm in West Columba or a Colonna,
but like still we're close Vicinity, but we're not in
person cast.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It's it's rare for that to happen.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, no, it's I feel like it's a good for
full circle moments. As you mentioned, we just a GV
day over the weekend, and now I'm back here in
the parents' basement for the weekend recording an episode here
where it all began, so you know, it was on
the other side of the room back when we recorded,
and now I'm over here on this other side of
the room. But still it's kind of a fun nostalgic
throwback to record in this which happens a couple times

(01:08):
a year when I'm here, but it's always fun when
when it does happen. But yeah, a good shout out.
GV Day was a big success. Friend, one who missed it,
you can, you know, it's all on YouTube. You can
go watch the live streams of that, and I would
recommend it. I think it was a super fun day.
There wasn't really a dull moment in my opinion. I
think we kind of kept it fresh the whole time,
and the stream got extended a few hours because of

(01:29):
all the great support we got. So, you know, thank
you everyone so much for doing that. I'll show the
other the patron producers right here at the top, Aaron
Brady in April of Darkness, Jack Grant, Sam super Bad,
Mike TGGLM six', Nine Jeremy, Renner Charlie, Rendell, Cocktail Clay
john with no H AND i feel like we got
one or two more that we got to add on
to that list now right AFTER Gv, DAY i feel
like this is a little. Outdated all of a, sudden

(01:50):
it feels that.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Way there's a lot of names popping up on that.
Day we'll have to, uh, yeah you, know the dust
hasn't quite settled. Yet it's when you do a long.
STREAM i feel a little groggy the next two.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Days, yeah so we'll get that updated probably By alien episode,
tomorrow so all the proper names will be in. There
but thank you everyone who you know that. LIST i
just mentioned people who showed, up people who were there
in the trivia. BATTLE i won't spoil the. Results if
you haven't caught the stream, yet we go check that. Out,
kirkling me and you were on opposite. Teams it was
a really fun time as, always and, yeah just such

(02:22):
a great. Day thank you everyone so much for tuning,
in you, know leaving a, message watching for one, minute five,
minutes ten, hours whatever it, was or checking it out
in the post. Time that's all good, too BUT i
mean for obviously the weekend and for ten years at this,
point we thank everyone so much for all the. Support
and here we are. Again the grind never. Stops just
a day two, later here we are back on it

(02:43):
with our weekly. Episodes tomorrow we Got alien and then
there's A i think there's a Weekly. Geek this week
there's something. Else, yeah It's. Dexter more episodes Of dexter is?
THERE i think it goes.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Nine i'm probably wrong every. TIME i guess he probably
got like three or four more. Weeks, yeah there's a
couple more weeks left for, sure and things are geting.
INTERESTING i was pretty negative at the start of the,
show BUT i don't kay turning around travels not so,
much And taylor's kind of been the same a whole.
Way so that's kind of the quick cliff notes of
the generals. There but it's definitely been a fun discussion at.
Least And dexter reviews for some reason always just pull

(03:15):
out people in the YouTube algorithms there that the chats
are usually popping off on those, Reviews so definitely check
those out live if you, can because they're they're pretty.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Interactive, YEAH i MEAN i still remember What Dexter New
blood or fuck. Wherever, yeah New Blood new budd finale
was our, biggest like, live you, know it was audience
and it was, insane weird time chat seven across you,
know normal.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Time i'm pretty sure it was a late episode maybe,
midnight but, yeah it.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Was it was.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Weird But dexter gets people, juicing gets the blood flowing
as it. Should, uh you, know it's. Funny normally after
a whether it's A gb day or twenty four hour,
stream usually there's like a million video games we played
over the course of the stream that we kind of
report back on with side quest, now which is always
funy debrief talk about some of the, Games but we
didn't do any of that this. Time there's no video

(04:03):
games we. Played we just did. Podcasting we did some other,
games fun, things but no video game. Things so we
don't have anything in that. Way but why don't we
talk about some of the games we've been playing And
i'll kick it over to you, First. Kirkland you kind
of me and you were talking about one of the
things you've been. Playing, yeah just as we were driving
to go get Some Alcatraz chicken as we had a
little break on the stream. There but, yeah if you
want to talk about that or any other, games.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, YEAH i QUICKLY i will get to that. One
that's the, main main hitter of the, game pretty much
just the Game i've been. Playing BUT i forgot to
mention this on a previous side. QUEST i tried the
demo for That cairn. Game the Rock climbing was.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Nice oh how was?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
It did you try that? One or? No you didn't
get to.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
IT i did not try the demo BECAUSE i Think
i'm just gonna buy, it and So i'm, like, Yeah
i'll just play when it comes, out which IS i
Think November december this. Year it's coming out in a few, Months.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, YEAH i, YEAH i was really interested in just the.
IDEA i really love the art style and just like
the actual like look of the game when you are.
Playing AND i do like the look of. It oh the, game,
though it was a little bit too much for my
little brain to wrap, around like even just like the tutorial.
Areas it reminded me of another. GAME i think it's Called.

(05:11):
Falling i'll have to pull it.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Up i'll have to pull it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Up it's it's basically a space game where you're just
an astronaut floating around in. Space it's like TWO d,
essentially and you just control the different, arms so like
one analog stick is like an, arm like you like
you're controlling your different.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Limbs, yeah AND i THINK i know the game you're talking,
about BUT i can't remember a came what it's.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Called But karen is kind of similar in that where
like you you really like you're moving your your your
different arms and limbs and just getting my head wrapped
around And i'm sure you, KNOW i just put in
some time to like really learn it and get better at.
IT i, mean there's a learning curve with any type
of movement game like. That it's it's it's not Quite,
quop but like it reminds me of something like that

(05:48):
where you're just controlling the individual parts of the body
of the, character WHICH i, Mean i'm sure it's satisfying
once you get into, it but it just didn't feel
like the most intuitive for, me AND i don't, know
the ten fifteen minutes THAT i was giving it my
effort on it was just kind of. FRUSTRATING i felt
LIKE i was kind OF i thought like like like

(06:09):
the mission was telling me what to, do AND i
THOUGHT i was doing, it but for some REASON i
was just missing. Something SO i definitely THINK i have
to give it another. Shot but it also just wasn't
something that was really uh enticing me to keep.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
GOING i don't.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Know it was also just, oh, yeah let's try out
This caaren demo and, yeah just just that so a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
DISAPPOINTING i don't.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
KNOW i thought maybe it was like right off the
HOP i was gonna be hooked on, it but, YEAH
i don't. KNOW i have to let me know how
you feel on. It.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, yeah it's funny because When jussant came out a
couple of years, ago my critique of it as a
climber was, that LIKE i wanted more, Depth LIKE i
want to be able to control my, legs which in
that game was just the. Hands and SO i think
that game would be perfect for you And karen would
probably be perfect for, me WHERE i want like a
bit more of that simulation and MAYBE i JUST i don't,
Know hopefully like my knowledge of how climbing works and

(06:56):
the body positionings and things will translate to like it
being more, intuitive BUT i still think those controls you
know you Mentioned quapey is also thinking OF i am.
BRED i forget if you've played that. One, yeah we
played that on a game we have like the four,
yeah the four corners of like the bread and it's
like extremely awkward, controls, right but eventually kind of get
into the the you, know vibe of. It and So
i'm hoping that happens With. Karen but either, WAY i

(07:17):
think it will be fun game to kind of work
out that learning curve and get to, it BECAUSE i
think it'll be pretty satisfying when you get to that
point for.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Sure AND i think what you said there about just
your climbing knowledge is definitely gonna help you because it
really emphasizes on like mid maxine your reach and like
what you can be going.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
FOR i don't know IF i don't know any about.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Climbing the most Climbing i've done is on a cruise
ship on two thousand and three on The Royal. Caribbean
there's a rock climbing. WALL i was so excited to try,
it and that's when that was the DAY i discovered
THAT i was terrified at. HEIGHTS i got like halfway
up AND i was just. PARALYZED i JUST i just
could not move that at. All and then you, know
HERE i am almost. Thirty i've kind of conquered that
fear to an. Extent next, time next Time i'm in,
TOWN i definitely have to get you out there with.

(07:55):
ME i would definitely be down to try, it even
though you, KNOW i gotta feel LIKE i gotta get
physic fitter for. That it's JUST i see some people
that rock climbing. THERE i mean talking about. You you
look look pretty look pretty fit on those on those
those strong back muscles and the things that you. REQUIRED
i don't know if it's just all about the finger finger,
muscles but finger.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Strength is, important but it's all. Important you just got
to be you just got to be a fucking.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Beast, yeah is What i've.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Learned i'm working with beats beast. Status that's.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Wrong and, then, UH i mean just you mentioned, it juice.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
ON i just noticed that was, LIKE i think last
month's PlayStation monthly, game AND I i just as a,
HABIT i just check them AND i just add them
to library with like even If i'm not interested the,
Game i'm just add them. All i'm just like a
smoug you, know just collecting all my treasure of, games
even though they're not technically.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Mine because it's.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
If PlayStation neverwork ever goes, down you, Know i'll just
lose all access to that.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Forever hopefully that data doesn't feature for a long.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Time but, YEAH i don't, KNOW i did no idea
what that game, was but the fact that you just
mentioned it there and that it's a little bit more
simplified version of what that might, be that's a little
bit more ticing for me.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
There so, Yeah i'll have to check that one.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Out, yeah, YEAH i think it's going for more the
vibe of, it like there is a story going, on
and it's LIKE i imagine compared To, KAREN i feel like
you're probably going a lot, higher a lot, further WHEREAS
i Feel karen's trying to keep it pretty. Realistic or
is this you, know it gets a bit more fantastical
and all that sort of. Stuff so it's a bit
more of a journey Whereas, Karen i'm guessing it's really

(09:23):
more focused on that on that sim element would be my.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Guess, well you, KNOW i love myself The journey video,
game so you just you just hit the word for.
Me that's that sounds.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Enticing, yeah the sequel from that studio coming, out that's those. Developers,
YEAH i ALWAYS i keep forgetting the name of that game.
Though it's a sort of the sort of The sea
of The. Sea there we, go, there we found, It
we found. It it kind of does roll all the.
TIME i don't know WHAT i was talking. About good,
Title good.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Title, yeah that's this, month a little reminder, there and
that's a free PlayStation.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Drop So i'm definitely gonna be.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Giving my thoughts on how on this looking forward to
ask for that, one all, right and then the main
event of What i've been, playing which is the in my,
opinion the viral game because it's just been populating My
instagram feeds and just my social. MEDIA'S i don't know
if that's for, everyone but ready or, not it's probably
less so now because Of battlefield Six beta has been

(10:16):
just popping off a lot of. PEOPLE i, know just
today at, work a lot of people were talking about,
it and of, course.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Good Good, God oh my, gosh the Great.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
God lets me sixty nine or, no it's the Good.
God i'm adding a little bit more of an emphasis,
there but, yeah you kind of adjusted, Great Like travis
just calls him sixty nine, now WHICH i think is
a great simplification one so far that has six' nine in.
Their title so you know it. Still, works.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah Absolutely but i'm just hearing a lot of Buzz about.
Battlefield six but a couple of, weeks ago it was
just all about ready, or NOT and i remember just
seeing some LIKE gameplay i feel like over a, month
ago because it has been OUT on pc for a
little BIT while i picked it up on the, console
LAUNCH which i FEEL like i got it like maybe
three or four days after it actually. Came out it
was pretty quick around. That time it didn't take long

(11:02):
for it to just be staring me down in the
PlayStation store for me to bite on.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
That one, And yeah i'm a big sucker for.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
TACTICAL shooters i, FEEL like, i mean going, WAY back
i remember playing like The original rainbow SIX on pc
and that game.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Terrified me like it's.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Funny looking back, on now like the graphics are, so
awful but just going in, these dark these dark, like
basements trying to sneak into this house that's filled with
like terrorists and you got the, night vision and back
then it was just.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Like green and like really blocky. Looking characters it.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Was terrifying and this, is, like, just yeah an updated
version of what. That, is obviously there's so much more
in depth to it than JUST the og GAME that,
i PLAYED and i believe IT'S like i don't know
if it's the, same makers but it's just like the
successor OF the swat, four SERIES which i had never.
HEARD about i had to do a little bit of
DIGGING as i was just getting into, the game because

(11:52):
it does take a little bit of a. Learning curve
it is like a very, lethal game which in my
opinion is.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
JUST awesome i.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
LOVE it i know we talked about it ON The
Uh the Ghost. Of TSUSHIMA like i PREFER when i
can just kill an enemy in, one SHOT but i
can also get enemy in one or get hit by
an enemy in, one shot just as a little bit
more realism to the to.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
The combat and this this game is very. Much, THAT.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
YEAH i I really i haven't played online with with
friends or or. Whatnot yet i've only just been playing
with the like the narrative, story mode which is basically
you're just going through the levels and you play as.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
The commander.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's funny on a couple, weeks ago we were Talking About,
door kickers and it's very similar, to that where you
you're like the commander and then you have different police
officers that you that are, your squad and they they
if they die on, a mission like they're just dead
and then you have to like hire a new one
if something goes wrong in. A mission like, they're civilians
they obviously you don't want. To harm worst case scenario

(12:50):
one of the terrorists, or whatever they'll they'll they'll take
out one of, the hostages or maybe you'll accidentally get
get a get a civilian in, the crossfire and then
like that'll bring down like the psyche of like your,
whole team and the morales really low and they just
won't perform, as well and each of them get like
different tributes and they, level up and, just yeah it's

(13:10):
a different way OF like i, don't know getting strategic in.
THAT element i imagine it's just trying to emulate how you'd be,
playing online Where like i'm going in with the shotgun
and this guy's going in with the, riot shield and
like just the different ways that you can breach rooms
using the.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Different non lethals or just equipment. Or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
It like it took me a while just to kind
of like figure out what my team should look like
and then heading into.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
The Missions and.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm at the point NOW where i believe the base
game has like, eighteen missions which is. Pretty, Long Honestly
like i'm not finished the. MAIN game i have about
seventeen hours into, it total and a lot of that
is like redoing, the Mission like i'll, Go in i'll.
Just die those early missions were pretty humbling of just
kind of learning, the game BUT then i just got addicted, To,

(13:57):
like Okay now i'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
PERFECT it i FEEL like.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
I kind of get that back To the arcane Series
with dishonored dishonor to stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Like that once you've like once you've kind of quote
unquote mastered these levels and you've played them a, Few
times like how quickly is does one of? Them take
is it just like a couple of Minutes, To yeah
so it's it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Can vary it varies.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
LIKE immensely i feel like depending on the mission and
like your difficulty and how you're planning on, Doing it
like you could go in just guns, of blazing, and
like in, MY opinion i feel like that would be
really hard because it like the enemies are just, so
lethal like you just get shot from like some. Random
crossfire once you learn, the missions like you can navigate the,

(14:38):
terrain better but like like every, single mission like enemies
are in different spots or maybe where the bomb is
planted is a completely, Different area so it like the replayability,
is there but like you you'll know, the, layout right so, It's,
LIKE okay i know how to get the cafeteria from this,
entry POINT so i guess in, that sense it'll.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Get longer.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But, for me like some of the missions, Were TAKING
like i think the longest one was like thirty, six
minutes which is, pretty long but like that that was
a big mission with a lot. Of enemies and there's
certain periods too where maybe you have to like find
like a hidden AREA and i just, kept BACKTRACKING like
I just i just couldn't figure out where.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
It was SO maybe i killed some.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Time there but there has been times where maybe it
took me like around half an hour to beat, a
mission AND then i go back and do it and like,
no Joke like i'd beat it in like less than,
Seven minutes like like you just somehow, get lucky like
maybe like who you have to save is and just
like are really easy to get to area or whatever it. Might,
BE yeah, I don't i. Don't know maybe maybe just

(15:40):
through the, dice roll just everyone that you need to
find is in like the perfect line that you that
you that you are. Already taking, AND yeah I know
I'VE replayed i think every Mission that i've done except
for like the most, Recent one i've replayed at, least
once or maybe the last two because the last two
were a little bit longer and they're a little bit
of a FRUSTRATED like i have my preferred way to get.

(16:01):
Through it BUT then I mean i guess to a
certain point where IT'S like i just have to make.
This work and then maybe you're getting a little bit
more lethal than you want to because the every time
you finish, the mission you can get a different letter grade.
For it the best you can do like without going.
Non lethal SO maybe i just randomly killed like one,
bad guy like he, shot first and like it is

(16:22):
a totally, fine takedown but like you would GET an a.
Plus max to GET, an s you have to clear
the whole mission without, killing anyone and like nobody has,
to die and that gets like really.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like knock them unconscious to get them out.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Of the way.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
At.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Least, yeah, Yeah absolutely so you can actually load out
with like all non, lethal gear like you could take
rubber bullet guns or my favorite is the bean. BAG
shotgun o, hell yeah bags, and like but like if
a guy is armored and HE'S an ak, FORTY seven
i shoot a bean bag at his chest and it
just hits, His kevlar like he's still gonna be shooting
me WITH his ak, Forty seven so you really have to.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Be strategic my my most.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Recent load OUT that i really really LOVE IS i
i now load up my guys with like, gas MASKS
and i take the gas to just gas out like
an area like maybe there's a lot of maybe there's
a lot of guys in like a really, confined area
and if you can just gas it out and then
you're kind of guarding the door and they can't really,
get out like they're just gonna be dropping their guns
and Then you and it's so, fun too like doing,

(17:18):
different breaches whether it's like you can do a tactical
breach with, a shotgun so you just like blow the
door open with, a shotgun and it actually brings down
the morale of like the enemies as well. As CIVILIANS
so i was talking To, you offcasz but like there's
certain mission where there's just meth heads who are just
methed up and like they're not necessarily trying to, kill
you but they're just methed up and like they have
no iody what's. Going on if you come to, the

(17:39):
room they're just gonna like go at you with like
a syringe or. Something like and, you know if you're,
defending yourself technically you could kill, these civilians these innocent
people but if you go, in there and you can
also load up with like, a taser so that's usually pretty.
Effective also but it's really just like having the right
gear for the certain.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You're picking your load out like for each. EACH mission
i was for pretty.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Much like eighty nine percent of my.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Play through like it wasn'tuntil the END that i was
really like trying to just make like an altogether load
out that like Like maybe i'll swap it OUT if
i want to take like rubber bullet guns, or something
but NOW like i really like my, LOAD out.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I take a what's.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It called it's it's basically A mirror i think it's
called a, mirror gun and it just allows you to
either you can like use it in windows to kind
of get like a better view of what's going on
into a room or around and open door so you
don't have to like peek your head and potentially, get
shot like you.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Can get a.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Better view but the, big things you can use it
to go underneath like a door and then you can
see what's in. The room and that's just, you know
knowledge is power when when you're doing these types, of
games and it's not Like a ubisoft game where you
can just or like a ghoscery com where you can
just like target every. Single enemy, you know you throw
in your if it's a sassage treaty of. Your bird
but then in The Ghost rey, on games you have
your drone and you just like know where everyone is

(19:03):
and you're just god mote at, that point like you
really do have to. Track ENEMIES and i think that's
where the game probably peaks is when you're actually playing,
with friends because then you like you're just getting tactical
and you're doing call outs and you're just strategizing because
there's certain missions with the like the bomb threats, for
example like you have to find these bombs or they're
just gonna. Blow up and there's been many Times where
i've like dismantled all. The targets i've said to, THE

(19:25):
civilians i found the, First bomb i'm defusing the, second
one AND like i just don't have.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Enough Time like i'm.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Doing, THE defuse i see, the bar but then it's
just like, beep beat, beep beat and then it just
blows up. My face it's like playing A c. S,
scheme sure, but, YEAH NO i i did experiment with
some of the like the, non lethals and the secondary
equipments that you can take because you basically how you
load out is you choose your you get, two guns

(19:51):
you get your, side arm and then you're like your
your main assault rifle or shotgun or whatever it, might
be and then you get your, support ITEM which i
said my was the. Mirror gun but then you can
also take the, batterying ram the, tactical shotgun which you
really only use to like blow up on.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
A door.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You can take like different like, gas dispensers so you
could shoot like stinger gun, or sorry. Stinger grenades it's
basically a freight grenade that shoots like, rubber pellets and
it's really good for like an. Open area so there's
like A big i, don't KNOW like, mpr room like
just just a big gymnasium or. Something like you'll throw
it and it'll it'll hit most people in, that room

(20:30):
but it's, non lethal so even know if, they're civilians
like you're not gonna.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Kill anyone those are really. Really effective or you.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Can take gas grenades AND then i think flash. Launchers
also it basically just shoots them faster. AND farther i
Would imagine i've never loaded up. WITH them i pretty
much only take taken the mirror, gun EXCLUSIVELY which i.
Don't know some people say it's kind of a. Baby
method i've seen some, PEOPLE like i don't know if
you ever see. Those youtubes it's like what this game
looks like with thousands of hours, of GAMEPLAY and i

(20:57):
watched It and, i'm, LIKE man i am such a
noube when it comes to. This game just like this
guy doesn't even take a mirror gun and he's like
solo taking down this the like the, one mission like
he's NOT taking ais, with him and just the way
that he like peaks around corners in his movement and
just like tracking. Certain things it's it's it's like inspiring, on,
like man like this game like once you actually put in,

(21:20):
The Time like i'm sure it's just so satisfying getting,
those takedowns whether you're playing with friends or solo or
even WITH, the ai because WITH the ai you have
to command them so you can split them up into two.
Different teams you have FOUR allies i guess that you
go with and you can Designate them blue Team Or
red Team or. Gold team goal team is all. Of
Them so i've tried to like get a lot better

(21:43):
with the. Command wheel i'm sure it's even better on
like keyboard and mouse because then you can just set
hot keys. And whatnot but on PlayStation And imagine xbox
also it's just like the right bumper, and yeah just
LIKE hitting l three to switch Between Like Blue Team.
Red team, LIKE ky i walk into, A room i
see three doors in front.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Of me one of them.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Is open, it's, like hey that's kind of the main
target because there's nobody in this. Immediate hallway so then best,
Case scenario i'm Designating like red team to watch that
door and Then maybe blue team like stack up on the.
CLOSED door i, DON'T like i, don't like maybe someone's
just gonna walk through the door right Like while i'm
facing the. Other way so like there's so much. Strategic element,
of course, IN reality i walk in There and i'm.

(22:24):
Like panicking I'm Like, gold team which is my, whole
team watch the open door and then someone walks in.
Behind Me cause I'M just i have like seventeen hours
in BUT like I just i just feel like such
anube when it comes to that sort. Of thing, but
yeah it's totally, feeding that like TACTICAL itch i get
with first person shooter games, and yeah lots of lots,
of fun highly. Highly recommended and it's one of those

(22:45):
things too where it's like man if like the whole
boys get, on this like this would just be so,
Much fun like the chaos. Did ensues like maybe it's
like you come into, a room there's some crackhead that
runs at you or me, or something and somebody just
panics and, shoots them and then you're, just like what.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
The hell is?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Going on this mission Says chaos like there it's, that
real like unscripted element that makes the game. So FUN
and i really like just, the yeah just the gameplay
loop and the setup, and yeah everything.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
About IT so i forgot to.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Mention it but when you dismantle people like LET'S say
i come across a civilian or anyone really like you're
gonna be shouting at them like freeze police like, hands
up and best, case scenario they put their hands up
and they stop what. They're doing, some guys like especially
if they're a gang bang or they have a gun,
on them like you don't know what they're.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Gonna do but as a, police officer.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
As, you know all all great police officers should they don't.
Shoot first So like i'm not allowed to shoot this
guy until he, shoots first and like if, he does
then the game will track That and i'll go down
a score. Or whatever and there's some there's some funny
standouts or yeah standoffs you get. Put into, but yeah best,

(23:54):
case scenario hands up on. Their knees but like if
there's a big and there's like five people and let's
say three guys go down on their knees and then
these two other guys are like, not compliant you have
to still focus on the guys that are on their
knees because sometimes like if you're not, watching them they'll
just like grab a gun in their. Back pocket so
like just the like the crowd control. Element too it's really,

(24:15):
stress stressful especially if like maybe you're later on in,
the level you're like twenty five, minutes in you're, you
know you're you're, getting sweaty you've already maybe gotten into.
A gunfight worst, case scenario maybe you lost like a like.
An ally it's, just yeah it's it's it's really. Really
fun but just like issuing commands to civilians and whatnot
to just turn around get down well like whatever it

(24:37):
might be amongst the, other chaos it's it's really fun,
to manage but uh to fully like get them. Under
control uh, or sorry let me. Phrase that they're not
safe until you like handcuff them once they once you handcuff,
them there they can't really do anything and, then, uh
yeah so that it's kind of good to. Go there
do you have any questions About anything i've said? So

(24:59):
FAR as i get, Some, more.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, NO no i mean. It's funny when we were
hanging out on, THE weekend i kind of asked you
a couple of questions, about it AND so i, feel
like kind of GET the gi JUST fit. N up,
BUT yeah i mean it sounds it, Sounds Great like
i'm even just describing whether it's like the npiece or not,
the MPCs but like civilians but then obviously like civilians
THAT are i feel like in most games they're kind
of always, the same but in this since you HAVE
like i, don't know characters that are like on drugs

(25:22):
and stuff like makes them unpredictable and like that thing
with like enemies where you can like, you know get
them to kind, of surrender but then they maybe like
don't fully crender like that's the thing you, can do
Like as agent forty seven And, Hit man but you
don't really have enemies like that in, a game so
either you take them out or. You don't AND so i,
don't know it just sounds like even within, the levels
having that level of variety of where they spawn and.
STUFF too i, don't know it just sounds like THE

(25:44):
enemy ai is really great and realistic or even JUST
like i, don't know it makes for a really interesting
gameplay because it sounds like it's pretty hard. To Predict and, i'm,
sure yeah as, you mentioned like that guy has a,
Thousand hours i'm sure he knows exactly how. They WORK
but i feel like where you're at in, the game
it probably still feels like always that bit of a,
dice roll, like oh how is this gonna like almost
like a bluffing game of like what's what's this guy gonna?

(26:06):
Do next and that part of it sounds, really great
and it's funny because it sounds like a game that
you would play these levels over and over and like
figure out exactly what the, movements are where this enemy's,
gonna move figure Out and i'm sure you can to,
some extent but it sounds like you gotta be a
lot more kind of gotta play improv a, bit more
and that sounds like a really great part.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of, it, yeah, Yeah absolutely and just the fact that
there's so many, levels right LIKE like i could play
one level one hundred times and enemies being. Different areas
but like in the, BASE game i think there's eighteen,
missions total and then like the GAME was i, don't
know forty fifty, bucks MAYBE and i got it like
seventy whatever dollars with, the DLCs which has, two DLCs

(26:42):
and it like their map, like packs like there's different there's,
different yeah just levels.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
IN there i don't, KNOW total i would.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Imagine five or, so each, Maybe SIX so i mean
that's just a lot of content, in General so i'm
excited to eventually get. TO those i am, Pretty DEEP
like I think i'm on my sixteen, or SEVENTEEN so
i am right at the end of the, base GAME
and i was pretty much like not moving ON until
i got like, A plus i only have two MISSIONS at.
S rank those are only the first, two missions which

(27:11):
are arguably the, easiest missions BUT still i was pretty proud,
of them especially the, second one because the first the
first mission is just like a it's like a gas
station robbery, type scenario and know there's a couple, of
hostages BUT like i think there's four, Enemies total whereas
like when you get, later on like you're at Like
the mexican border and there's like cartel members in like

(27:31):
just like these trenches that you're, going through and it's
so terrifying because you're just like you got your night
vision on and you just you're just going down these
these rat tunnels and like some of them, veer off
and it's just. It's Stressful so i've only done that mission,
once now that one that that was one WHERE like
i got it Through and, i'm, like, oh man like
that that. Was dicey that WAS definitely I think i
got LIKE a d rating on. On IT like i

(27:52):
don't EVEN think i got for dicey all the all
the like. Miscellaneous objectives that, Was, like okay let's just
let's just get. Through this, but, yeah no it's. IT'S
satisfying i have a lot of fun just kind of
like mastering them and finding all of all of the
evidence or maybe like like One example i'll give you
is there's.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Like, without spoilers.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
There's one enemy that you have to come across who's
like he's like technically like a corrupt officer, or something
so your objective is to take, them alive but like
like he's just firefighting you as soon as you.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Find him so.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
LIKE my ai ally is the one that, shot him
like the FIRST time i did, the mission SO like
i got through it and the mission, was complete BUT
like i failed that that objective technically because. He died
but then in, My mind, i'm like how the FUCK
do i get him? To stop AND then i, didn't
KNOW like i didn't realize this, at all but like
you can technically go for like.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Knee shots and stuff and like.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Cat people like in, MY mind i just, always, thought, like,
hey headshot somebody's not wearing, a helmet like just dismantle
him in.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
One shot.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's easy but then, You know i'm just taking, everyone
out and as a good officer should be going FOR that,
S rating i should be taking everyone ALIVE if. I
can i feel like, the, gameplay though is really fun
to Be, playing lethally like just like the like the
gunplay is really satisfying and fun just taking out people with.
One shot so some people argue it's LIKE the s

(29:15):
rank is kind of it's kind, of counterintuitive like maybe
there should be LIKE an s rank and then LIKE
an s rank, non lethal like like you shouldn't be Bottleneck.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Like, dishonored, yeah, yeah Exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Like dishonored you can get a clean play through even
if you get a, couple, Kills RIGHT but, I like i,
DON'T KNOW i i, understand it like it's your. Police
officer the best case scenario is, nobody dies uh at
the end of, The day so that that element's really.
Really fun oh and then the OTHER one i was
gonna mention is uh the, ACTUALLY no i don't want

(29:49):
to mention that it's a fun it's fun level reveal
That maybe i'll say it because like the first time
you put you go, through it any of these missions
really like that's when you discover whatever the, conspiracy was
or like this time into, this uh and that's kind
of fun or it's been fun at least for me
on the first, play Through because i'm SURE once i
play through the, full game, You know i'll just be
knowing the ins and out of all. These missions but

(30:09):
like some of them have like these little hidden areas
where maybe you go into a mission you're just expecting
it to be, one thing but then it leads down
this literal, rabbit hole and it's just it's it's crazy
when you when you get into, those situations it's, just like,
all right, gold team you got, My, back LIKE well
i got, your back let's go down here and take.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Them, out.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah this. Sounds GREAT i'm I guess i'm also curious
how the because you've mentioned a little bit about like
how you CONTROL your, ai teammates, BUT like i, don't
know do you when you, Do that like do you
pull up like a mini map of it so you can,
tell them tell them more to go on, the map
or like if you're in a, larger map how do
you kind of control them over a larger space or
are they more like they're kind of just flooding in

(30:47):
the room, behind you or like they're breaching but you're going?
In second is it kind of more like you can
be close knit like ice climbers or can you kind
of spread wide and go like as far as you? Want?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Away yeah like the Way because i'm such, a NUBE
like i pretty much just keep my whole team, around
me like like because the way that you issue orders
is like through your, Crossair essentially so like Like if
i'm pointing at, a civilian my command wheel will be for,
The civilian so like LIKE if i hold, THE button

(31:18):
i can say like get on, the ground, turn around come.
To me Whereas if i'm pointing at a DOOR and
i use my command meal command wheel not, THE meal
i can issue them towards. That door and there's there's
just a plethora. OF options i FEEL like i haven't
even really used all. THE options i just started using
the ONES that i feel the most. Comfortable with but

(31:38):
then of course that's when you can LIKE hit l
three Can now i'm Just now i'm just selecting. Red
teams So then i'm stacking them up on the left
side of this door because you can be very specific.
With it and then they're just. Waiting command so then
they're just gonna. Wait there and what they're doing is they're,
you know they're still watching. The room so if somebody
walks in from, another door they're not. Just idiots they're
not just gonna be. Staring there they're gonna like. Respond

(31:59):
accordingly but their many objective is to be watching that
door in case an enemy, comes out whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It, might be.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
AND then i could maybe go to the other side
of the room with my blue, team now AND then
i stack up my blue team on the other side of,
the door and then they're stacked, up there.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And THEN maybe i go to another entrance like just on.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
My own And then i'm like kind of LIKE maybe
i took the tactical shotgun on this, load Out so
i'm waiting to just blow open. This DOOR maybe i
issue the command that like as SOON as i open,
this door then you guys go, in also and you
can also climb it with LIKE a c, four entry
which is just the most satisfying for. Me PERSONALLY and
i believe that one has like the biggest hit to.
Enemy morale like if the door just, blows open then

(32:40):
you know everyone's shitting, their pants, and, it's uh.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Does that like change that when you're talking about? The
morale is that effect like they're ai and LIKE how
i guess how much in your face they'll be or
if they've like straight up run away or if they.
JUST surrender I guess i think.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's like a.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Fear element so like if let's say they have like
four dudes. With aks LIKE if I if i just
kick the, DOOR in i don't think they're going to.
BE scared i think they're just gonna be yea gunning you.
In response BUT then i, Don't know, let's say let's
say it's like a Meth lab, i'm rating and like
these guys are on, edge already like they're all high,
and stoned.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
AND then i just blow the.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
DOOR open a lot of them will just kind of
go down on, the ground maybe some, of them some
of them are. Running away it's kind of hard, to
predict JUST because i haven't played the GAME enough i
think to like fully understand like the repetitive nature OF,
the ai because to me it feels pretty. Much random, but,
like yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
IT really i love the idea of setting up like
a multi door breach at the, Same time like that,
sounds Great AND i'm i hope that like modern like
multiplies your the amount of fear you deal on the
enemy if you like bust open like three doors at the,
same time because that would be terrifying just like every.
Direction totally It's.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Like batman, is, Invading right it's.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
The, bad yeah, but yeah it and like it does
remind me of just other tactical shooting games in the in,
THE past i Mentioned like, Rainbow six Raymi six vegas
two back in. The day shots up to anyone that
play that game that that. ONE was i feel like
that was a big one for me back back in
the day of just loving the tactical shooter side of
it and controlling your. Your ally so this is kind

(34:12):
of definitely scratching that it's for me for, me personally and,
uh no it's it's.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It's.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Fantastic oh the OTHER thing i forgot to mention is
some missions have like sometimes they'll like booby, trap doors
so they'll be like a little trip wire like on,
the door like basically at the bottom of the door
with like, a grenade so if you open, the door
it'll just trip and then it. BLOWS up i saw
a couple of, videos online which was a big REASON

(34:37):
why i wanted to give the game, In general but
like a couple of guys were playing and then someone
just opens the door.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And, they're like not, that door and then he just.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Blows up and. Goes flying so it's, pretty comedic but
it's it's. Stressful though it gets to the point where
like you you're opening every door with, a peak so
you just you just, crack it and then you're looking
down to see if there's, a wire and then like
you'll you'll go for your little your little wire snip
there because you can, disarm them or you can also
like select your at your ally to disarm them, for

(35:04):
you but you just have to be aware.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Of THEM and i.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Feel LIKE after i died, to One now i'm looking
at every single door expecting there to be.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
A tripwire i'm learning.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
From mistakes, but yeah there's one mission where you're going
against you're basically doing a raid on this guy that
lives like a way out in the bush and he's
just like a super, conspiracy guy so he's like he's booty.
Traps everywhere that one was really fun to kind of
piece together and lost a lot of limbs on that
mission for the first few. Go arounds, but no it's
really fun because and then in, that mission without puilling really,

(35:34):
too MUCH There's u and it's not just. That mission
there's many missions that have like little Little like heidi
holes or like little cracks in the wall WHERE.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Like i didn't even know anymies could get. Through THEM like.
I breached i saw.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Two guys one guy, got down the other, one ran
AND then i like handled the one GUY and i
went into this ROOM where i know he. Went In so,
I'M like i like through a, flash bang, you KNOW
like i know he's. IN there i go in there
and he's, just gone AND like i, was like what
the hell is? GOING on i was checking all all around,
that area AND then i realized that there's there's these
little these little like cracks that they can just like.
Squeeze through, and, it's uh. It's, fun yeah it's it's

(36:08):
it's totally a. Fun game AND like, I said i've
only PLAYED with ai and the single, player MODE but
i can't wait to play this with with. Friends online, and,
yeah no it's it's it's totally it's totally a. Solid
game i'm REALLY happy i picked, it up and it's
totally up my alley and highly. Recommend it it's on my.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Wish.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
List now i'll have to look if it has, cross
PLAY because i just wish it, doesn't steam but yeah, It, does,
okay okay cool, cool cool, CAUSE yeah i, mean yeah,
ONCE again i don't know if it would run on,
my laptop but if, IT did i feel like this
would be a keyboard and most kind of game. For
Me but i'm obviously you're getting getting through it pretty well,
with Controller so i'm sure i'd get used to it all.
The same, but yeah there. You go that's ready? Or,
not yeah really really. Cool game i'm excited to hear

(36:48):
more about that as you kind of progress and play
through more, of that or replace some of these levels
and check out some OF the dlc and.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
All, THAT totally i.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Just have one game to show, to here and then
when we talk About The nintendo indie l allo a
couple of other GAMES that i can bring up when we
get to. Those segments, but yeah the ONE game i
wanted to shout out here is, uh, Okay, Well kirklan
i'll go. Back here you remember a game of. THE
year i was telling You, about mouthwashing which was somewhere
in my top ten games of.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
The year i'm Gonna, Put, weird.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah weird space station, horror game crazy, existential story really really,
fed up kind of HAS like ps two polygon, type
visuals but WITH like i, don't know some good effects,
on there get LIKE a, crt filter so it kind
of has that old school feel.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
To.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It well after playing through, THAT game i learned that,
that developer which is, their name Is, wrong organ which
is like perfect for how weird their. GAMES are i
just have a strange name, like that that they have
another game that Is on steam now that's just like
a free Game, on steam AND so i, was, like
oh that's kind of been on my RADAR since I,
played mouthwashing and so finally the last couple of WEEKS

(37:53):
here i jumped in and checked it out and realized
THAT once i, did that it actually is supposed to
be like a prologue For, mouth washing almost like a.
INTERACTIVE trailer i guess like the ideas you can play
this for Free. On steam ideally you, love it think it's,
really interesting, And, LIKE okay i gotta Go buy mouthwashing
now and. Play THAT so i think that's kind of
how the. Intention was i'm gonna play in it in,
reverse order but it kind of works either way because

(38:13):
it is somewhat of its own separate thing and the
name of the game Is how Fish, is made so
very Similar, to mouthwashing and that's just like it's a weird, ass,
name man, but Yeah how Fish, Is MADE like, i
said free Game. On steam it's a really. Short game
it took me about a half an hour to play,
through it and that is with there was like an
update they did to it with like a new chapter
and that chapter is Called The, last one and then

(38:36):
another so to play that game and the and the
like expansion thing for it all that took me like
about a half, an hour so really really. Quick experience but,
once again it's supposed to be kind of like an,
INTERACTIVE trailer i think to. Some extent, BUT man i
love what the studio. Is doing they're just making the weirdest.
Stuff possible they have like really good their games just
make you think about life and yourself and choices and

(38:59):
like all these kinds. Of things so even though it's
like this weird wrapping, around it really weird, distorted wrapping
it still ends up being PRETTY powerful. I feel and
so obviously this is kind of this is. Much Short
mouth watching was already a pretty, SHORT game i think
like two or. Three hours this is obviously much shorter,
than that but it still has kind of left a
bit of an impression. On me so In how fish,
is made you play as a fish and all you're

(39:22):
you're not, in water so you're just flopping around through
like this, space station like going through these kind of,
Air vents you're coming across, Other fish you're having a
little rinking, in conversations and kind of the whole setup
of it is is that at the end of this
section of the spaceship that, you're in you're gonna have
to make a decision do you want to go up
or do you want to? Go down and you have
no info about which either one of. Them means but

(39:44):
like all the fish that you're talking to throughout the
space station have their different reasons for why they're gonna
pick this one over. That one so at some point someone's,
TELLING you i think about seventy percent of the fish,
choose up and that kind of makes, you, think OOH
do i want to go with the? Popular OPTION do
i want to go with the less? Popular option one
guy's like to go down because my family also, went
down and like some of them get pretty existential for

(40:05):
their reasons for why they choose. Either One and i'm going.
Through it, I'm, Like okay i'm gonna. Go up I'm
gonna i'm gonna. Go, down actually after hearing this piece,
Of information i'm gonna go up again and like all
this kind, of thing WHICH really i don't think there
is much like not even just SPOIL but i don't
even know if there's a huge difference for either one.
YOU choose i think it's just the game is more
about that kind of choice and stuff. In general so it's,

(40:28):
KIND of, i guess a commentary on choice, in games
that kind of. Thing perhaps so that's kind of the.
First part and then the second part of it IS as,
i said called the last one and then another it's
still in the same how. Fishes made you just download
that you get access to both, of them and that
one's a bit, more gameplay has a bit more, gameplay
too because the other one you literally just flow around as,
a fish talk, to people go make your decision. To

(40:50):
them there's, no gameplay there's, no puzzles. There's nothing it's it's.
Very simple and in this one it's it's pretty much
Like a katamari domicy sort of play style where you're,
like this you're a fish who's in like a BALL
of i, don't know paste of, some sort and you're
kind of rolling, around now so instead, of flopping you're.
Rolling around and then as you roll into stuff like,

(41:11):
dead fish, fish heads, random. Objects screws they kind of
become part of, your ball and then you grow and
you become bigger and bigger as the game, goes on
and then you kind of have to go through the
area pick up a bunch, of stuff so now you
weigh enough to like go on this pressure plate to.
Get through so it has a bit more gameplay going on. To, it,
so yeah it's pretty Much, just katamari but like extremely
disgusting and like you would dead fish everywhere and, all

(41:33):
that and this also has, you know a bit of
a medicommetary, going on and that one more directly leads
into mouthwashing and even like has a character from mouthwashing,
In there so it's a bit More overt and THE
way i read it is that these fish and all
this like takes place within that, space station that mouthwashing
takes place in its kind of THE vibe i get. From,

(41:54):
it so but they didn't really overtly confirm that there
is one like fully pre rendered like music video sequence
in here that is absolutely wild and weird. And, Disgusting
uh so they went above and beyond with some of
the some of the visuals, in here and that's what
the studio is really. Good at it's like really evocative
visuals that really. Stand out, so yeah not much more.

(42:16):
To IT like, i said it's Free. On steam, you
know check it out if, you want and if you,
like it then go check out. Both washing that's kind
of how it's intended intended to, BE digested, i SUPPOSE
and i just did in the. Reverse order, BUT yeah
i really like what the studios up to and whatever they.
Do next i'll probably just buy it day one no
matter what, it Is and I'm sure i'll have a.
Great time so there. You go That's how fish.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Is made, that's crazy. THAT'S uh I mean i like the.
RUN times i feel like the whole series half. An,
HOUR yeah, i mean well including the, other game right you? Said,
three yeah two three hours for that. OTHER game, I
mean i don't want to ask too many QUESTIONS because
i feel like it's something that you just kind of
want to experience and go.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Through, yourself yeah it's like trying. To explain, it's, like.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah just, play it just stop there. For, sure yeah,
but yeah definitely worth. Checking out. It's weird i've been
playing a lot of these kind of strange indie horror,
experiences lately, and yeah it's a it's a. Good vibe
i'm quite. Enjoying that and, then YEAH like, i said
a couple of The games i'll, shut Out but i'll
talk about those when we are Going Through Nintendo indie
world for. Obvious reasons so how about we take our

(43:19):
first break and we will be. Right, back okay we.
Are back so. It's funny last, week's episode Me and
taylor talked About The nintendo, partner showcase and then a
few days later they announced another to direct For Specifically
Nintendo indie. World announcements so obviously there was the first
the third, party announcements and now there's the. Indie stuff

(43:40):
so it seems Like what nintendo's doing here is getting
a lot of that stuff kind of out of, the
way getting some announcements out there that need to happen
for games Releasing in august. And fall but then they
can ideally drop, a Nice big nintendo first party Direct
in september that, kind of, you know gives all the
release states we need For like Kirby, for metroid like
the games that we know are coming out, this fall
and then probably some surprises all along the way, so overall,

(44:01):
you know it's FUNNY when I mean taylor did, that episode,
was like this partner showcase kind. Of sucked what was
even really? The POINT and i think Now that i've
seen you know that they had this indie direct to,
followed UP which i actually think is a pretty solid
director even though it's like fifteen. MINUTES long i think
it kind of sets the runway for them to do
their last director of the year and then kind of
just right out, the YEAR and I think i think
it'll all work out in, The end but it was
just kind of weird the way they, did it Because

(44:23):
obviously nintendo doesn'tally announce these things too far, In advance
like we know about these directs like a day or
two before, they're happening and there's obviously, always rumors but
those rumors often end up. Being false, but yeah what
did you think of this? Indie showcase did you have
a good? Time here anything that kind of stood out?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
To you?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Top level not a.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Whole, LOT honestly i was somewhat, fair enough. SOMEWHAT disappointed
i feel like my intrigue wasn't like, peaking Though because
i'm one of The old, SWITCH users i don't have a,
switch TOO because i feel like the most exciting announcements
would be maybe just like with the new tech and
like what they'd Showcasing.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
For switch one games, in HERE though i think almost everything, no.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
True not everything, No true like the first section Was
just switch one AND then i, think, it's yeah what
like a quarter or maybe maybe thirty percent of that
amount is switch. To exclusive but in, My mind i'm
just like waiting for. For, that okay sell me on
the Switch to Maybe The indie showcase isn't the best
place for that because it's usually smaller studios doing potentially

(45:26):
a smaller game. For that so maybe it was just
not buying my ticket to the right the right show,
or whatever just said my expectations in the.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Wrong area, BUT yeah I don't i. DON'T know i
also usually.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Find like A really i, don't know like a really
cute indie THAT maybe i want To show shay and
like Maybe wet HER and i can can get interest
in that game together because we usually it's usually switch
games for.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Some Reason the.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Nintendo isms is what what brings us together in those sort.
OF category, i mean she did tell me that we're
getting a SWITCH to i think, next year because that's
when the new animal crossing is supposedly supposed to.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Come out she she gave me all.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
THIS information i don't even know if that's, real news
but she told, me that so she's got to.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Finger out i'll say that's, fake news but, you know
you can let her believe that.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
And give her.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
That news i'll let her find that one on. Her own, but,
NONETHELESS yeah i. DON'T know i was just maybe waiting
for something to really sell me, on It and.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Showcase didn't really.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Do it there is like SOMETHING that i thought looked
really really cool and fun and like just like a
fun thing, to play but nothing like blowing.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
My mind, on, like man this is just this looks.
Next level so a little bit of a lesser one for,
me personally, Fair.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
ENOUGH yeah I think i thought it was a really.
GOOD time a lot of interesting things, in here, you
know release dates for a couple. OF games i was
curious about a couple of surprises, in there and even made,
a purchase so you CAN never i can't complain. Too
much if that's kind of the level of direct we're,
getting here.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Let's kick.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Off then the very first game in here was me To,
the hallower which we already knew was Coming, out halloween
so there's not really much. NEW here i think the
purpose of this showcase series, kind of, you know to,
remind you but also that they had a demo that dropped,
with this which was like an out, today demo AND
so i jumped in and played a little bit. OF
this i didn't want to play too Much because i'm
already buying, this GAME so i don't really want to
get spoiled on it or have to like redo the

(47:13):
first level or however much is in. The demo but
the THING that i found really interesting, about THIS and
i kind of talked about This with taylor, last week,
is that, you know it's weird that there's some features
like the mouse controls or like one hundred AND, twenty
fps which Like The, switch too is, capable of but
just aren't really being. Used yet and a big reason
for that is probably that like a lot of these
devs don't have, dev kits like they just straight up

(47:35):
don't have access to like the Hardware For, switch too
so they can't really like perfect, these things but mean to,
the hollower and including this demo is like one hundred and,
twenty fps, you know has that that has feature kicked,
in there and so to, MY knowledge i think Other Than,
WELCOME tour i think that's the only game that has that.
So far On the, switch too is like one hundred and?
Twenty frames is this freaking demo for me And the

(47:56):
hollowers not even like another first party game has access
to that metroid will we? Know that but that's, you
know not out yet. Of COURSE so i found that kind.
Of interesting and THAT'S what i really was curious ABOUT
when i downloaded, this DEMO is i want to see
this end one hundred and twenty frames, in action and, you,
know really it's like it's kind of hard to tell
for a game, like this like a. Pixelart game pixar's

(48:16):
tricky with one hundred and, twenty, frames right because, often
pixelart like every frame is like, hand drawn and so,
it's like are they actually doing twice as many frames
like of hand drawing for, this game like just For
the switch or like cause, YOU know, I guess I
guess xbox and PlayStation could do, that too so maybe
they from the start they had this idea to, do
that but it's like unless they do specifically like draw

(48:37):
an animation at one hundred and, twenty frames you're not
really gonna, see it but maybe thee hundred and twenty
frames is beneficial more so that the, game is, you
know reading your inputs twice, as often so the game
feels a lot. More snappy the game does, feel great,
but like, you know this is the team That Made,
Hollow night they're gonna make a. Great game this game
has looked super solid. Ever since, SO yeah i, played like,
you know maybe twenty minutes. Of this even at the.

(48:58):
Very beginning you get to like choose your. And type
there's like a big hammer that kind of has a
slow charge. Up strike there's like a mace or a
ball and chain, type weapon so kind of a more whip.
Type attack and then there's. The knives you can pick
which one. You want i'm guessing you eventually unlock all
of them that you can. USE freely i picked the
ball and chain BECAUSE anytime i can use like a
whip like weapon in, A game i'm always going. For

(49:19):
that then you also get like a kind of lob.
Shot axe so between the whip and the lob, SHOT
acts i FELT like i was Just playing castlevania in
terms of like what my move, Set was so that was.
Really fun and then obviously the hallower part of, the
GAME which i FEEL like i never really understood BUT now,
i do is that like a big part of this
is like as you're like a, rat character you can
just a lot of. The terrain you can just burrow underneath,

(49:40):
the ground so you can like pop up beneath enemies
or just get, underneath obstacles go, get collectibles that kind.
Of thing so it just makes the game. Very fluid
you can. Fly around you also have like a jump
right off, the bat which, you know this is A
very zelda, like game but Often in zelda games you
have to like unlock jump or you just like can
only jump like, over ledges, you. Know specifically so this
just feels a lot. More fluid so so far as.
So good i'm still gonna be picking up this Game,

(50:01):
in october looking forward. To it, BUT yeah i just
wanted to share out the oddity there of like the
one hundred and. Twenty frames funny that this is kind
of like the second game to my knowledge on the
console that has that future.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
On, it, yeah interesting it looked. Really fun that was
one of the more highlighted games for me of. The showcase,
of course it was the first one, they showcase so
it was it was a.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
GOOD start i.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Just, Love that like this style of gaming is just,
you know it didn't die back in like the nests
or like the old era. Of gaming it's fun THAT they,
i mean they.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Didn't have one hundred and twenty frames back in.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
The day they din't have the TVs for, that stuff,
that stuff so it's. Cool, that yeah it's just living
on and it looked.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
REALLY cute i like.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
The, CHARACTER yeah i don't even HAVE a tv. For
it So if i'm picking this game Up, In october
i'm only gonna be able to access THAT if i
play handheld on, The switch so that's nothing wrong. With
that it works perfectly because it looks like A game, boy,
game right so it's kind, of perfect kind of very
links awakening source of style. To it the next game
is One Called, well dweller coming out twenty. Twenty six

(51:04):
it looks, very. HOLLOW nidy i DON'T think i have
much to say on. This one it was not really
my cup of. Tea unfortunately any any thoughts, on no.
NOT particularly i think some people will love, that game
but that person will not. Be me but the NEXT
one i thought looked, really great and this is also
twenty twenty six Called. Never way it's kind of almost
got like a best of of like, indie developers in

(51:26):
the sense that they said they have the pixel Artists,
from celest which is like one of those gorgeous, indie
games and then the Composer from fez And Hyper, light
drifter which, you know two great indie soundtracks. As WELL
but i love the look of. THIS game i feel
like it seems very undertail e it's but it's got
like a very limited, color PALETTE which, i love is

(51:47):
kind of just like this very specific shade, of blue
and then like just the darker and lighter variations of
it looks. Very trippy the story looks, really good gameplay.
Looks interesting so this one's definitely on. The radar i'd
like to get a demo of this, AND like i
don't know see what that. Feels like, BUT yeah i
think this game looks and sounds. Really great i'm pretty
excited For.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Never, WAY yeah i really like the soundtrack that this,
one had and just like the enemy designs looked really,
just freaky just just they got a couple of freaks.
IN here i like the world that they, built up
and something that really stood out to me is just
like the attack animation that like the main character, is
using like like the one weapon that, They have it's
just like it looks like, a torch but it's just

(52:27):
like a stick with a flame, on it and they're
just swinging it like A Fucking world series batter like.
Like it they're just swinging that thing at. These enemies,
it looked it looked really just satisfying getting those. Hits off,
so definitely, UH yeah i mean again like the the at.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
The start here where we started hot with. These, games.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah and then again coming out, very Soon which i'm
if this was the first Announcement of i'm kind of
surprised because it's coming on in just a. Few days
but Heard lean so this is from the developers who
Make the Far Series Far changing Tides. AND far i
can't remember the name of the. Other game i've played
both of them actually because they have been on your
Pass so i've.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Checked out. WASN'T it i think it's from the developmentcept from.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
The Producer, of firewatch WHICH like i don't know what. That,
means yeah, you know does that just mean like one
guy who Worked on firewatch like through twenty k, and,
THEM like i have, no idea, but Yeah The Far
Far changing tides games really interesting, viby GAMES and i
think The reason i've kind of fallen off them is
that they are. Very slow like you're there's very little.

(53:28):
Gameplay happening sometimes you might just spend like fifteen minutes
not really, doing anything just kind of taking in, the
background taking in, the music the scenery and like maybe
have a couple of little things on your ship you
got and, you know turn this dial. Or whatever but
like it's, very viby, very chill and it feels like
this is very much like that, as well where, you
know you're just. A herd you're you're guiding these yaks whatever,

(53:49):
they are across. This landscape And so i'm sure there'll
be some simple mechanics tied, to that and, you know
maybe got a clear debris out of the way so
they can get around or use them to knock things
out of the way. That Stuff but, i'm expecting just
like their, other games for it to be more about
the vibes and the. Deep MECHANICS and i, DON'T know
i feel like their games are, very meditative and so
if you know, right place, right time it could be

(54:10):
the perfect game for you if you're looking for that kind. Of, thing, so,
yeah HURDLING and i think looks looks pretty interesting, and honestly,
to me it looks a little bit more compelling than their,
previous games just in terms of the gameplay, of it
because it seems like there's a little bit more complexity.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
To it, yeah yeah not. For me this one, too.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Fair a little. TOO slow i, feel like doesn't it
kind of have like a bit of a journey?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Energy too it does so SCRATCH that i guess to
elaborate on My, hard no they.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Had me in the. FIRST half i thought.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
It looked really cute and just just like the world design.
Looked cool but then as it went on and it
just showed more of this this child looking figure with,
the herd and just like different, different areas whether it
was like a more, FORESTY area i was, just, like
man this just seems like it's just a one long
trying to keep goats in a certain there sure might.

(55:00):
Be annoying, and, YEAH yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I think the last games, were like, you know between
four and six hours, or something so not. Not overstaying they're,
welcome hopefully, but yeah obviously pretty. Little mechanics No journey
journey is a one, sitting game and those are those
are my type. Of journeys it's no how fish, Is
made i'll tell. You that, next, up though is a

(55:25):
game Called Is This? Seat TAKEN which i feel like
there's not a lot of games that have a question
mark in, the TITLE so i really like that this
is an out today GAME and i bought this Game
and i've been playing this game because it spoke. To
me this feels LIKE a, ds game, or like more
specifically THE three, ds GAME because i FEEL like ds
had vibes, like this but it didn't really have like
indie games on, it yet, you know because there was

(55:45):
still cartridge only BUT THREE ds i think of Like
box boy and other games, like that which are just
like simple kind of indie games that maybe are using,
the hardware, you know but. Maybe not but they're just
kind of these weird little indies that are kind Of
on nintendo platforms and feel Feel very nintendo even though
they're not Developed. By nintendo AND so i wanted to
pick this one up because it just. LOOKS cute i
really like the art style where it's pretty basically not

(56:06):
a lot, of colors but then they'll use colors like
highlight very specific parts of. The scene it almost has
like a comic book kind of grain to the background
of like some areas to it, as well and like
the sound effects are very poppy, and ploopy like they're
very perfect in. That way and so Now that i've
been playing, this game the premise of it is essentially
it starts out and there's like a taxi going through

(56:27):
and you'll have like four or five little little, shape
creatures and they all have some specific thing, about them
be where they want. To sit so one guy really
wants the. Window seat one guy might, be smelly and
another guy doesn't want to sit next to a. Smelly
guy one maybe if someone wants to, sit alone maybe
someone wants to sit with their, friend specifically and so
you kind of pick, them up drop them into the different,
available seats and kind of puzzle it out in a

(56:49):
way that they are all satisfied with. Their sitting AND
what i like about this game so far is that
it's a puzzle game that isn't like it's not like a.
Math problem it's not like there's only one way to solve.
This thing it's there's a little bit of freedom of
where you put. These people, you, know obviously if someone
wants to sit next to, a window obviously there's like
maybe four spots in. A window but for the, most
part it's like a little bit more. Free form and
then there's been a, couple levels like harder Levels that

(57:11):
i've unlocked where, It's, like okay this one, feels, like
man there was not much variance in terms OF where
i could have put, these people and that. Feels good
it feels like there's a good mix of kind of more,
free form just fun placing people down sort, of ways
and then like really kind of more intense puzzle levels
that are a bit, more challenging but you only get
those ones you've like beat a whole range of levels.
Before IT and i love the tone of. This game it's,

(57:32):
very silly it's, very goofy where it eventually gets a, point,
where yeah like a descriptor for a character will BE
like I just i forgot, to shower and so you
can see that there's like smelly clouds, around them and
then you'll see when you put them on a seat
it'll highlight like four or five seats next to them
that are affected by. Their stank and then if SOMEONE'S
like i DON'T like i can't handle, anything smelly if
you put them next or even close to, that person,

(57:53):
they'll be, you know pissed off and they won't. Be
happy so you'll lose, the level and so you kind
of have to square. It out and then some people will,
Be like i'm wearing, strong cologne and so you got
to make sure you got to put them in the.
Right spot some people will like go to a, dance
party and so you can like you off, of seats
but then you also have like a dance, floor area
and PEOPLE like i want to send it right next to.
The speaker or it'll be someone WHO'S like i want,
to DANCE but i also don't, like music so like

(58:15):
they want to be far away from. The speaker so
you get goofy things like, that too and so, the
yeah the first couple levels are, Pretty basic like you
get a taxi and like each time the taxi gets
to the next level drops off all, the people you
get a bunch of new people to. Fill in BUT
then i some of the levels that are really fun
and So far i've had a couple of, bus levels
and so that's like a pretty. Big bus, you know
there's a bunch, of seats but like every stop, it

(58:35):
takes some people will get off and then some people
want to. Get on so you're kind of having between
each placement having to kind of position people or. Reposition people,
are like take everyone off the bus and reposition, everyone
now and so you kind of get these. Fun ELEMENTS
but i don't know's it's really fun to kind of
just square out where these people, should go where, They
shouldn't and there's a lot of, funny things and like
there's even like a bit of a narrative going on

(58:57):
where like this is one person who's an aspiring act
but they, you know they just don't have the confidence
because they're like a rhombus shape and all the other
actors in the world are like circles or squares. Or
whatever but then their, friends, like oh but what about
this new actor who's like an up and coming on.
The scene they're. A rhombus and then this person's like
kind of trying to build up the courage to go
and talk to this actor who's also. A rambus so

(59:17):
they have the confidence to like become. An ACTOR so i,
don't know it's like it's. Very, quirky yeah it's very
silly and obviously knows that it's like very specific with its,
tone there, but man it's it's really great at the
other LEVEL that i think you would REALLY like i
think you do like all these like it's. Just fun
simple gameplay is the movie, theater one so it's almost
like you have one, movie theater but like separate showings.

(59:39):
Are happening so the, first level you put a bunch of.
People down at the end of, the movie all those people,
filter out a bunch of new people, come in but
like depending on where you had left, people before they'll
be like popcorn strowing along the seats and like big.
Mess everywhere and then the, next level the people will
BE like i don't want to sit in a, messy
seat or someone will, be, LIKE oh i want to,
steal popcorns so put me next to someone who, has
popcorn and so you get like goofy things, Like THAT

(01:00:01):
and i just kind of wait to see like the
crazy levels they come. Up with but so far this
game has been an. Absolute joy it was like, fifteen
dollars it feels like almost like a mobile gaming in
terms of like. A simpleness BUT like, I said i think,
more specifically it feels like A three, ds game and
that to me is like the perfect vibe, of like,
OH yeah i feel like. THE switch a lot of
those games aren't really a, round anymore the three dsy type,
of games and so this is kind of a almost

(01:00:21):
feels like a fun. Little Throwback so i'm having a
great Time with is this seat taken? So far?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
That's, AWESOME yeah i it definitely stood out. To me
this was one of the more positive ones on the list.
For me it at, first glance it. REMINDED me i
don't know if you Ever Played diner dash back in?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
The day Has diner dash vibes?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
For?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
SURE yeah i played that one in Like a penguin
diner or something that where you're like on ice skates and. You're,
skating yeah yeahs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
That vibe my SISTER and i played that so much
back in. THE day i think that Was like PopCap
back in back in the. Pop, TIME okay i Think
like pegel was another pop.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Cap game speaking Speaking, of PopCap did you see the
the remaster Announcement for Plants.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
For, ZOMBIES no i. Did not that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
For zombies replanted is coming Out, in october which has.
New levels it has the same, art style but just,
you know looks better and obviously it's like, wide screen
which the game has never been, wide SCREEN which i,
didn't realize and has some other bells AND whistles. I suppose,
but yeah that's coming Out. In october, oh wow interesting
that and has co op adding co op.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
As, well am.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
THAT'S crazy i don't just two people interacting with. The
plants i'm not sure it's it's then you're just placing them. All,
THAT yeah i guess it's either that and you're, working
together or it's maybe there's like a competitive kind of thing,
to it but IT'S specifically i think only couch co
op and You because cha is also a fan of Plants.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
For zombies, oh. Yeah, Definitely YEAH so i THINK that
i would love to hear how you guys feel with
the co OP or i think it comes out like
right before the twenty four, hour streams so that could
be a fun one to boot up In the wii
hours PLAY some. Pvz, TOGETHER yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I Feel like i'm usually don't have the juice for
like like when we Play like Call of, duty zombies
but that might.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Be more, my yeah that might be the zombie it's
a little.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
More, WHOLESOME yeah i no getting back to. This one
so that was the, initial Vibe and i'm, like this
this seems. Really cool but then of course IT'S it's,
i mean it's everything you just laid out and uh
and a little bit, more ACTUALLY so i you definitely
sell me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
On it and this is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
ONE where i AT first i, was, LIKE man i
just feel like this would be, a fun fun One
for shay because she likes those a Little. Like Puzzle
super wholesome is like a it's gotta, be, nice, fun cute,
wholesome game and this one has that written all. Over
IT and i love just the design of the characters
and their. Little FACES and i remember there's one shot
on the trailer where they like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
GRAB one i don't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
What type of shape, it was it's like just just
something and then it's like floating around it says these
like cowboy boots on, its legs like it just looks so.
So funny and then just hearing, your.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah that's that's a, good show tot. And one other
one of the things that can happen in the movie
theater one is that some people have just like a big,
ass hat so if anyone's, behind them they just can't see.
The movie so you have to like position them in
ways that they are blocking the view of. Other people,
so yeah it's, but yeah there was another, joke too
and they're based on the shape where there's like. An
actor there's a lot of, actor VIBES like i think

(01:03:05):
the first level is set in like la or something,
like that and, and yeah the one shape it's like.
A square it's talking to like some fans and, he's,
Like yeah I'm at i'm a movie star and, they're,
Like what you're not a star or. A square it's
like that's a kind of level. Of humor you're gonna.
Know this so it's like cheap, little laughs but it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Working well does the uh you said there's there's sometimes
there's a guy that's like, really smelly maybe a guy
with really. Strong cologne do they ever like counter each,
other out LIKE like i, don't know this guy kind
of defeats the area of the smell because he's such
a powerful. Cologne user like maybe it like makes the,
area NEUTRAL maybe i can bring someone, Else in like
does it work?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Like that it it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Does not but there's a lot of specific things going, on,
There right so there's like, the clone there's a, smelly
people and then sometimes someone just doesn't like. Smelly things
sometimes people just don't like. Strong smells so strong smells
would mean you can't be near colone or a. Smelly
person but if you just don't don't like, bad smells
you can still be next to someone who. Has colonne
so there's like specific. Things there but Often what i'll

(01:04:04):
end up doing is like there's a part of the
bus that's just like all. Stanky people like there's like
three or four like stanky peeps just like in the.
Back together but then sometimes people someone might, be stanky
but then they also don't like, strong smells so like
they're given off this bo but like they also if they,
smell boh they're Gonna be they're. Really specific and the
other one too is like they'll. Be kids kids are

(01:04:25):
like slightly smaller when they have like pink cheeks to
show off that their kids and kids offen they want
to sit next to each other or next to their
parents or something but then there's some people who ARE
like i don't want to sit next to, a kid
like don't put my man where near. A, kid oh
and then all on the bus, as well you get
people who are playing, loud music which, is, LIKE man
i always hated people on the bus who are like
playing their music, out loud so it's very Relatable and
i'm like always want to stick them in like the worst.

(01:04:46):
Seat possible and then like some people don't like to
be next to. Loud noises some people want to be
next to someone who wants, to talk so you have
to go like they put the chatty. People together so
some people want to like sit on the bus that
they're facing in the direction of the of the bus
of like the direction of. The car so you get
like a lot of really specific little interactions in there that,
are yeah really. Really fun so it's so far really. Great,

(01:05:08):
game YEAH like, I said i can't wait to see
what like the future levels are because like the movie
theater one was really unique and, really fun and there
was like, a dinner a wedding rehearsal dinner that was
really fun to like the square out to where everyone.
Should go And so i'm curious to see what other
ones they cook up in the BACK if i mean
it might be a short game because it's like, fifteen
bucks but whatever, It is i'm gonna play through to
the end. For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Nice. Aweso.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Yeah yeah and then next up was a Little Kiddie
big cities getting a free update. This year, they said
so it's like more level, going on you can customize
your cat and. ALL that i really enjoyed. That game it,
was another, you know speaking of, short games another like
two three hour long game to get like every achievement
and everything. In It so i'll definitely check this out
if it's still in. GAME pass i played it On,
game pass so if it's still In game pass when

(01:05:50):
this update, Comes out i'll jump in check. It out
yeah that that game was Cool and i'd be down
for more of. Its, LINE yes i told that name,
your name and soon they.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Came up, I'M like i know exactly what game. This
is dylan told me all about it On. Side quest that's,
hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Funny perfect it must have been popular if it's getting a.
Free update they don't even want money. For it they're
just they just want more people to play, the game
which is cool and then content warning coming out twenty. Twenty,
six obviously this game has Been on STEAM for i
think it came up maybe this year, last year but
it's Coming. To switch so one of those goofy co
op games looks, looks fun.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
LOOKS cool i thought it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Was FUNNY how i feel like a lot, of these
like whether they're horror or JUST like i, don't know
just just Online, like steam like streaming games are are
are like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
A thing i.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Don't know they bounce on. My radar i've seen many
different version versions. Of them whether it was the ONE
that i was telling You and, TAYLOR about i can't
remember what it's called, right now BUT like i remember
just seeing a bunch of people streaming that one of
it was just Like the, survival one and this one
definitely reminded me. Of THAT but i just found it
so funny that it's it's literally about, going viral and
it just reminded me of that aspect of like let's

(01:07:01):
just find a fun game that can, play online stream
it and then people will find, it funny and like
this is literally what the what the game is about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
About just trying to get, that footage, you know post On.
Spook TUBE so i feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Like the gameplay and the look of it was less
impressive than the actual idea of what the. GAME was
i thought. It was it was kind of, funny there
and the fact it was called. Content warning, AT first i, was,
like oh we're gonna get, dark here like they're giving
me a. Content warning and then that's the name of.
The title, so yeah there's there's some positive things to
take out, of it but nothing too too CRAZY because

(01:07:32):
i think this was one of The switch to. Exclusive
ones it's not on the switch One if.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
I'm, that yeah in, MY notes i, Was like i'm
not keeping Track of switch one with The switch to that's.
That's CRAZY but i did kind of do that for this.
Next one So ball Ball X pit Ball. TIMES Pit, i,
OH yeah i still don't know what it's supposed to.
Be CALLED which i talked to. YOU about i think
that Was Announce Summer, game fest and then we talked
about it at, some point, you, know whenever whenever. We
could so this. Game's coming it didn't have a. Release

(01:07:58):
date it, does now so it's Coming. To switch this
IS what i, found weird Coming To switch, october fifteenth
but switch to, this FALL so i guess they just
don't have the switch to version, ready yet which. Makes
sense you know a lot Of as i've talked about
last Week, with taylor like a lot of devs seeming
they don't have dev kits yet first, Switch too so
that's why a lot of things are taking more time than,
they should and certainly not small indie studios are not,

(01:08:19):
getting that, you know small amount of dev kits that,
Do exist so that's. TOO bad, i mean obviously you
can still play the game via the switch one version
on your switch to which is Probably how i'll play,
This game but just kind of a weird little. Detail
There but i'm glad this game finally has a. RELEASE
date i honestly barely even looked at the Trailer because
i'm already just sold on. THIS game I didn't i
don't want to. See anymore i'm just gonna pick It up.

(01:08:40):
October fifteenth i'll. Be, There unfortunately october is like the
busiest month ever for me. For games there's like SEVEN
games i want to play, that month, new game so
it's gonna. Be CRAZY but I think i'll still make
Time for ballpit because it looks. Looks, great yeah we
talked about this in, the PAST BUT i i mean
just seeing the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
ACTUAL gameplay i did watch the. WHOLE trailer i was
so just drawn. In it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You know what it reminded me of IS like i
don't know if we're out of, that era but in,
my mind it reminds me of Peak like iPod touch
gaming on like the city bus going, to school back
when like apps weren't just littered. With ads most games
On the app store, were free, you know like they
had the, paid ones but if anything would be like
a two, dollars game whereas now it's like they have

(01:09:23):
like subscription services for like. The games if it's not,
subscription service it's like you can play for, ten seconds
then it goes to like an unskippable ad and it
just keeps playing the SAME as i feel Like, every
yeah it just deters me from even to want to
try like a like a different phone game that's not
something like a, card game Whether It's marvel snap or
something along. Those lines it's Not that i'm really playing
phone games in, general anymore but it just reminded me

(01:09:44):
of that era of of those types of video games
and definitely looked. Just fun this is THIS was i
think my favorite one that. Was shown it just it just.
Looks fantastic And if i'm, not mistaken they were mentioning
something about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
LUP here I don't i don't remember what the. Detail
was if it's the, same, MAKER.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Man i it must be the, Same artists like it's
not the, same studio but the art looks so. FREAKING similar,
i mean obviously it's like a bit MORE three d, then,
yeah pixelar but like even the color pellette and the
part when you're like building out your base Looks Like,
Loop hero, so yeah it's got to be some some combo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
There totally and just like the different characters that, you're
unlocking it just across.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
The board it just it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Looks fantastic and it's funny when when they said like
fall to the switch To in october whatever, it was
to the, SWITCH one i read it in, like Reverse so, i'm,
like okay it's coming out first on the, switch too
and then switch one a little. Bit later that's kind
of that's kind, of weird but, But, whatever uh it
was just reverse in my in my, head there BUT
now i can definitely see myself pick on this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
One. Up nice it just. Looks fun it just LOOKS
like i can pick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
IT up i have quick, YOU know i don't need
unskippable cut scene or like just really slow traveling to
another city. Or something, YOU know i just get in
there and have some fun with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
The, ball yeah it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
No, hurdling, yeah, yeah exactly time and place, for it,
you know, like YEAH if i have fifteen, Twenty minutes
i'm not gonna Put on journey and start of a
play through because in, MY mind i FEEL like i
want to play through that in one sitting ball that,
spit though, you know you can pick, that up get some.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Or how fision is made as you go back to.
That next That Was Ultimate sheep raccoon Coming out winter twenty,
twenty Five, WHICH kirk i don't KNOW if i forget
if we've talked, about this but you must have been
A line rider sick o.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Back, today man, come, ON yeah i use this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Is like this is like eight player Like co Ops,
line rider like, fuck yeah this ca'.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
LOOKS great i used to like download. MAPS online i,
can't REMEMBER like i can't remember THE r, i was
but there was a website that you go and people
would just post their tracks and it was just insane
some of the level of detailed people would go on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
The autos, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
They're awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Yeah Yeah, UH so i, don't know do you have
any interest in a co op eight player Version Of
line rider or you're like happy with that being like
a two thousand and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Eight memory, Uh yeah i'm not racing. RACE too i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Don't know Maybe maybe Where of mouth will, convince me,
BUT yeah i just feel like that chapter's closed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
For me? Who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Who, knows, yeah yeah this game looks. COOL though i
like that someone's making.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
A game design. FOR sure i like the art style.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
And everything and then there's a Game, called glacier which
is INTERESTING because i feel like there's a lot of
games like. This now they're like kind of LIKE three
d underwater, exploration games Like obviously subnautica is the, big
one but then there's other games. Like IT but i
like that, the setting, you know this one is it's
like a, frozen world so like the surface is just
like completely inaccessible and so you're kind of bully beneath
these glaciers and things. Like that so kind of a.

(01:12:34):
Cool setting, BUT man i just absolutely hate underwater exploration
and games Is just I'm No, James cameron like this
is just not my cup, of tea EVEN like ufo
fifty has a couple underwater exploration games and like there's
some of my least favorite in. The collection it's just
not it's just not my, Bag unfortunately So and subnautica.
As well like, cool game but like just not just
not for for this guy. Right HERE so i will

(01:12:56):
not be playing, this one but looks. Looks cool do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
You think that's stems From, like Mario because mario water
levels were always just notoriously the. Most hated, they WERE like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I mean i.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Most, HATED yeah i mean it's definitely not a hot
take by. Any means like water levels are like notoriously people's.
Least FAVORITE but i think MORE like i don't really
mind A two d, WATER level, i THINK but i
think more SPECIFICALLY three d water levels where it's like
if you're playing, a fast, frantic game but then you're
like now you're underwater and it's like a quarter of,
the Speed like mario. Sixty four you get to the,

(01:13:29):
water levels, it's fine, you know but it's it's not
my not my, preferred thing but, definitely yeah game like
this where you're, solely underwater not really.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
My, thing, yeah no, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
THAT'S FAIR i i like that you SAID two d
water levels don't bother you too MUCH because i don't
know if You played, inside yet but that probably has
some of the best water levels. In general, it's uh
it's like very terrifying water, levels though and it just
adds to the theme of that game somehow OR the
i don't know why, said theme just the feel of

(01:14:00):
the aura in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Atmosphere, right definitely if you don't wish less that, item
already you should definitely get on There.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
For inside have you? PLAYED yet i feel like we've talked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
About, IT YES i I thought i would have talked
to you about it on, side quest BUT maybe i
talked to someone else, about it or maybe, you know
there was maybe a couple of years, going now SO maybe. I,
forgot yeah that does happen you maybe for all because
you may be blanked your MEMORY because i did not,
like it and so maybe you were like THE negativity.
I had you were like flashing out of. Your mind
so they don't need to unearth that but. All, time

(01:14:33):
yeah that story it is for so, many people and
maybe that was. A PROBLEM maybe i maybe the expectations
were too high, for me especially As a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
LIMBO head i, was, LIKE oh I. LOVE limbo i Didn't.
LIKE limbo i did inside first we Went. TO limbo
i wasn't a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Of it, so interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
That's, strange, YEAH.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Yeah i guess.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
It's whatever when you, played first that's when, you like
and the other ones. You Hate but Speed of glaciers and.
Frozen Things winter burrow is game coming out. THIS winter i,
you know we alreadyknew about this window AND so i
was kind of hoping for actual release date here we
still don't. Have it i'm looking forward to, this GAME
and i think it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Looks cool.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
And then there were this is kind of where we
get to the part of the show where it's just
like quick hits of. These things so we might have
not much to, say HERE but i thought this game.
Looks Cool undusted letters From. The past it's almost like
a miniature powerwash simulator where you have like, small antiquities
a little little, strange objects not strange antiquities that's coming
up in, a minute but you have like small little

(01:15:28):
objects and you're kind of dusting them off or like,
you know using a little water pressure thing, to like,
you know clean them up and that kind. OF thing
i don't really know what you, do next but, you
know it, looks cute it. Looks therapeutic so if you're
into that kind, of thing and if, you're not maybe
you are into owning and operating a. Tiny bookshop which

(01:15:48):
is a game that's, out TODAY which i looked at
this game is this is my cup. Of tea but
it's like it's like twenty five thirty dollars or something,
like that which, you know maybe that game is absolutely,
worth that but it's just not Really my it feels
like maybe should be a little a little. Bit less
but essentially you have like a little trailer and in
the back of this trailer you have a little tiny
bookshop with people coming in looking for certain genres or certain.
Specific books so it's just like a management same kind,

(01:16:10):
of GAME but i think the kind, of cute cozy
vibes is it kind Of Like, manami LANE which I
know i forget if you played that Or of shape.
PLAYED that i think It was shae That, play yeah actually, Played,
it YEAH which i love, that, Idea, right like take
what is a genre that's usually over huge, and overwhelming
like a, city builder but like, you know boil it
down to like just designing one. STREET perfect i. Like
that this is that like that same idea of just

(01:16:32):
you make a tiny bookshop in the back of a
trailer seems. Super fun so this game looks very cool.
OUT now i DON'T think i have much to say
about the rest of these until the very. Last one
did you have any Thoughts on Caves Of Cud Strange
antiquities Opus Or Go Go town Caves?

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
OF cud i, was like what the FUCK am i looking?
At here this is hurting? My brain is this is
like a tech? Space game like is that? The idea
it's like going back to that era of games.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Sort of it's It's Like. Dwarf fortress do You Know
dwarf fortress?

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
At all it's ringing a tiny. Little, chime yeah in,
my head not quite.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
A bit one of those random games is just like
one OF the i don't know for the for that
community is just like the best game ever made kind,
Of Thing and Caves of cut is kind of like
a mal modern take. On, that okay which is A
game i've heard a lot about because that That podcast
i've told you about that are DOING the ufo fifty
like one game, a week yeah kind of thing for
like an. Entire year they have a side series where

(01:17:27):
they're covering caves of cut and so they didn't like
five or six episodes. Of THAT so i think the
game sounds amazing AND someday i will play it. For
sure it seems LIKE a pc game. To me, but
yeah it's cool that it's Coming. TO switch, i think
finally break out of That that. Steam ecosystem maybe you
get a bigger audience. For it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Pretty, cool yeah and, then, no yeah and then the. Last.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
One yeah so the show ENDED with, ufo Fifty which i've, talked,
about like this game's got to Come to switch at.
Some point it's perfect for. That platform so it finally is,
out TODAY so i bought it again and they also announced.
WITH it i don't think it was in, the showcase
but they are doing a limited run, physical version so like,
you know In the switch case with like print out

(01:18:09):
maps and like, you know instruction manuals, and all like
probably stickers and posters and all. That Shit so i'm
gonna buy this game a, third time, you know when.
It COMES when i get that VERSION which i think
is like not shipping until like, next year but pre
orders are. Open now, So yeah i'm obviously talked about
uf fifty a million TIMES and i, bought again have
you even played it Yet, on switch BECAUSE like I
just i don't even really want TO play ufo fish.

(01:18:30):
Right now i've kind of played all of IT that
i want to in this point, in Time but i'm
very excited for this to do some multiplayer stuff with.
You guys on the twenty four, hour stream we were
talking About busheto ball IN the gv ten YEAR and
i think that'll be a really fun one. To play
charlie was shouting about. That, one, yeah yeah, so yeah
you fifty, Is amazing like if you haven't played, it
Yet the switch is definitely a great place to, PLAY
it i, Will SAY and i haven't played, it yet

(01:18:51):
but just, you Know because i'm on the subreddit and
the discord. And Stuff the switch one Version great switch,
to version seems like there's some issues with it because
the game has made for or For the, switch one
which is like a seven TO twenty, p screen But
the switch to has A ten adp and it seems
like there's some weird scaling, going on where like some
of the visuals aren't, working great and then there's like some,
sound issues so there's definitely some patches to. Be done

(01:19:12):
it seems like maybe they could have, once again it's
probably a thing where they just probably don't have a
switch to, dev kit so they probably just had to kind,
of guestimate which. Is unfortunate so hopefully they get that stuff.
Fixed UP like, I said i haven't actually tried, it
YET but i think it's more mostly. Visual bugs you
should still able to play the game. Pretty well, but
yeah it's on, switch now and if you haven't, played
yet by it now because it's an amazing game and

(01:19:33):
it's best played on, controller anyway so it works just
perfectly for switch and all that. Couch COOLOPPINESS so i, Don't,
know kirkland this might be, your time might be your time, jumping.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Definitely it's it's A game i would want to be
able to, Play Handheld SO i'm i was waiting for.
THE switch, I mean i don't really have any excuses
not to jump on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
No excuses was this like known it was gonna be
dropping today or was it just like. A?

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
SURPRISE no I mean i think everyone kind of assumed
that this game would get Ported to switch at. Some,
point yeah that's kind of what Happens, with splunky where, it's,
like yeah they Focus on steam first and like Port to,
switch later which it seems like it takes time to
get that emulation or, not emulation but just get that porting.
Job done and, SO yeah i think it was just
a matter. Of time maybe it Was the switch to

(01:20:13):
that pushed over the edge of wanting to get it
out there for that. New audience, so yeah it was
not actually announced though this was a big out now today.
Surprise cool i'm almost surprised it didn't get a bigger
because it was just kind of in. THAT montage i
feel like the game kind of deserved it its own.
Little sequence maybe you can get the developers up to talk,
about IT but i guess it's like not a new,
game anymore so maybe that's the. Reason why but, uh

(01:20:35):
yeah IT'S like, I said i already, bought it AND
uh i already owned, the game so that's how good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Is, nice yeah that was everything from the. Show anything
we didn't really skip, over anything but any closing thoughts
on that or. Anything else my.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Only closing thought is the GAME that i was trying
to think of earlier with this floating man in space with.
The limbs It's Called.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Heavenly, bodies, yes okay a good call out if you're
interested call type, of GAMEPLAY because i.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
AM not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I was kind of excited for that, one too because
it is couch, co Op so, i'm like, oh Man
MAYBE shane i will play. This together AND then i
just did the Tutorial and, i'm, Like no. I'M done
i don't even WANT to i don't even want to, play? This?

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Gotcha yeah, fair, Enough, okay kirkla thank you for. Joining
me this is a fun. Discussion here next week we
will be back for more, side quests as we. Always
are thank you everyone. For listening we'll see you again,
next time. But bye
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