State of Fallout, Halo: Campaign Evolved, DK Bananza spoilers, Marvel Cosmic Invasion

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at Geebers. I'm your host, Dylimusnight
with me. The war is over again. Travis Snell, how
are you doing tonight, my friend?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Could we be back on side Quest? Got some fun
topics talk about. And it is the week of Halloween,
so that's always the time we're the most cheerious.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
A couple of different days Halloween.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I love going out trigger treating costumes, seeing going on
scary movies. First time I'll talk about it probably on
the next newscast. But here in Colowna, they're playing the
original Halloween in the theaters. So me and are gonna
go do a date night because now the twins are older,
so we can do a couple more date nights nowadays,
where before we're just locked up for months. But I
am doing well.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So yeah, yeah, it's it's funny. This is like, yeah,
this as you mentioned that week of Halloween, and this
whole month, I've had like a horror game to talk about,
or last week he did like a zombie thing with Taylor,
and this week I have no horror because I haven't
really played any new games, so Unfortunately, the closest to
Halloween episode of the year doesn't really have any any
scary stuff in it. But that's okay because we're gonna

(01:17):
talk about some fallout. You know, Followed has some creepy
moments to it, so I guess that could be Halloween
in a way. Talk about follow up, talk about some Halo.
We're gonna finally get to our spoiler film thoughts on
Donkey Kong Bonanza because Travis has Rold credits. We'll leave
that for the back half of the episode as deep
spoilery things we'd like to leave us to the end,
and then another little Marvel Cosmic Evasion check in thing.

(01:39):
So should be a fun episode, So let's just take
it right into Marvel Cosmic Invasion, which is as I've
mentioned when I think it was last week two weeks
ago with Taylor where you're doing a draft check in
and I was worried. It was getting extremely worried week. Yeah. Yeah,
still did not have a release for it, and it's

(02:00):
like the last game on my draft that doesn't have
a release date. I was getting scared. They kept saying
twenty twenty five, and they finally have confirmed it's coming
out December first, so it is coming out very soon here,
and then they've announced I think the final two characters.
I don't know if there's any secret ones they're gonna
have in the game when.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It actually come out, like secret character, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, I think because they I think they said it
has like fifteen characters, and we might be at that now,
so I don't know. Maybe they do have like a
nice secret like you're can unlock a boss as a
playable character. But what they showed off here was Geen
Gray and Ironman. So iron Man makes sense. He's kind
of in all these games all the time. But Jean
Gray's kind of a fun off the wall pick because
she's not even in all the Ultimate Alliance games, right,
she kind of sometimes misses the boat unfortunately. And then

(02:43):
there was some other fun details in the trailer here.
But I'm really glad to get that release date. Yeah,
what did you? I guess where are you at with
this game? Like, are you picking this up now that
you've seen a bit more of it, are you still
kind of like, Eh, it's fine, I'll play it later
when it's on sale or something.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, I think that's like if it was if time
and money wasn't at all then, absolutely, But right now
I don't want to, even though it's probably not the
longest game because I have him behind, I'm still trying
to work on the backlog. So now that I've finished DK,
I might pit around a little doc you con, which
we'll get into. I still like for just every once
in a while, I'll put onto Oh, just I want
to break some stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's good for half an hour.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I do want to get to Alan Waite too, my
plans do that in October. I didn't really get to it,
so that's why that's next on the list. But I'll
probably wait to hear what you think and other people think.
I think it's gonna be good. It looks fantastic, art
looks good. As I've talked about before. Me and the
girls like these type of games, but right now, same thing.
They're plugging away. They have like seven Lego games, so
we're not really buying any new Lego games there. So yeah,

(03:38):
I didn't think it was gonna be out this year,
to be honest, even though they were saying that it
doesn't matter, like, yeah, it doesn't matter what dev say, right,
All it takes is one blog post with a black
wall text like We're tried really hard, but next year
we can't wait. But no, both choices kind of make sense.
Like Ironman almost felt strange that was waited this long
because I feel like iron Man's almost becoming Wolverine, where

(03:59):
when you get a Marvel game, you're gonna get iron
Man because you know whatever where it is. Iron Man
starred the MS and really got a lot of new
people into that John Right and Robert Downey and that's
gonna be a big reason for doomsday. And then Jean
Green I actually didn't think was weird because obviously, like
I'm looking at now and looks like she has some
fire going on, but like the Phoenix Force, which I'm
not sure how much I think she'll probably have some

(04:20):
of those powers, know, but that's very spacey, right, that
comes like the comic book and even the animated series one.
It comes from outer space. It's not just like a oh,
a gene that's hidden in her body. No, it's usually
the oh, what is the the Necron crystal or the
Kamara crystal whatever. Yeah, yeah, but it's like a crystal.
It has all this lore that I remember as a
kid reading like what but I do have to ask.

(04:42):
I'm looking at this roster right now, Rocket is he
He's a separate character, right he is?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
It is rude. It's just Rocket and yeah, I don't
think it's in there. So maybe the first time in
a video game that they're kind of, you know, separated
from each other.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Other than Lego, I think Lego Marvel they were separated, I.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Think, but at least in Lego, like Groot is still
in game where I think the rockets kind of on
his own, away from his best buddy.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's just very deceiving because in the art that I'm
looking up the roster, they have Rocket Raccoon on the
shoulder of she Hulk, so it's funny. It almost makes
you think they're a duo. But yeah, I count fifteen here,
so I hope they're lying because you know, I talk
about many times we don't get to wake up on
Christmas and get that joy, like, oh, what's that present
gonna be? It's usually socks or shirt or gift card.

(05:24):
Halloween will get trick or treats. So I feel like
one of the only few. May it's be a good
brand and butter one of the only few like pleasant
surprises you can get life is in video games, and
a secret character.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
As long as it's spoiled anything like that, Like that's it.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I remember how much fun we had for Marvel Alliance, right,
like we speculated, but until we got there, it's like,
is this person playable? So I hope you at least
get one. But I think it's a fantastic roster and
I definitely will be picking this up at some point.
Looks fun, art looks fun, and the roster. I think
it's a good collection of main people and some weirdos.
I think they definitely got more main people than it
looked like at the start.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I feel like they led with all the weirdos, but
now like Wolverine, Iron Man, I'm even.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Throwing Jen Gray as like a main like mainstream one,
Captain America, Venom, spider Man, Storm, Like those are some
silver surfer, Black Panther, those are some big, heavy hitter surfer.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's gonna be Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Gonna be a good one. But uh, you know, great
characters nonetheless.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
So yeah, I wonder if they were saving it so that,
like when they could do their three or four trailer
drops post the actual announcement, like each one of those
could have like, oh, now iron Man's in here, Now
Storm's in here, no Venoms in here, like get some
of the kind of big ones in there for each
of those announcements. Maybe that's kind of one of the
things they were going for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope

(06:37):
there's a couple of secrets in there. I think Shredder's
Revenge because it's the same team. I'm trying to think
if that had a secret character, because I think you
could play as what's the rat, like the trainer guy
for a Yeah, I think he maybe was not announced
prior to the game coming ounce Maybe that was a secret.
And then I think they had like DLC. So I
don't know. If this game does well, I could see
it getting DLC maybe adding some new characters in that way.

(06:59):
But fifteen is a lot more than Shudder's Revenge had.
Oh yeah, if we look at for kind of comparing
it one to one.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Also to hurt my credit was the m cron Crystal
by the way them really close. I was I was
some mambo jumbo or something.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I believed it.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
The other thing that I spotted in this trailer that
I haven't seen before is it looks like there's different
costumes for these characters, are at the very least like
different palette swaps for them, because I saw, like Wolverine,
I think, has this classic brown yellow, but then there's
also like the yellow version that I saw in there,
and then Jean Gray had like the more like black
and yellow variant tour as well, So I think I

(07:35):
don't know if they're different costumes or if they're just
like color color swap rounds. But that's that's fine. I'm
sure you'll hopefully you can unlock those or I don't
know if that's in there so that you can have
like multiple gene grays at the same time or something.
I'm sure that's kind of what it is, so that's cool.
And then I don't know. I'm sure some of these
villains have been seen before, but in this trailer they
had soar On in there, which makes me wonder if
we're gonna go to Savage Land, because I thought all

(07:57):
this stuff would be kind of in space rather than
like on Earth. But I guess you could just transplant
soar On and stick them in space like I could
believe it.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah you could, and even Savage Land even though it's
like it's like a weird it's it's Earth, but it's
not like.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's like Earth adjacent.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
It's like a weird place, right, So even then maybe
maybe maybe you start there, you know, and then you
go up to space. But I can see if you're
taking like a little break a mission in Savage Land
kind of fits the cosmic vibe, i'd say so.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
And then they also showed up, yeah, task Master Modoc Galactus,
So I mean even task Master Modoc those are more
like Earth based characters anyway, but yeah, we just put
them in a spaceship in over space. That's totally fine.
So yeah, very very excited for this game. I'm definitely
picking it up day one. I think it's actually like
I was kind of hoping, maybe be nice if it
came up before the twenty four hours stream we could
play some co op on there. That's not gonna be

(08:44):
the case obviously this year. Maybe next year we can
test it out, but December firs is a good release
it because I don't think I'll really be playing like
there is like Metroids coming out a few days after that, and.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Are you locked on Metroid I'm not.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'm not what I'm saying, like I kind of want something.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Else to I'm not either.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think that last tray there was the
last chance to kind of sell me, sell me, and
I was like, okay, maybe one day, but not a
not a right away thing.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
So I yeah, I think. I think it looks fun,
like there's some decent stuff to it, and even like
like we're not don't have it in the show notes,
but Kirby air Riders they had like another hour long
direction show and off a bunch of stuff there, and like,
that game looks amazing and I want all these games,
but when every Nintendo game is like one hundred and
fifteen dollars, I just like, okay, I gotta really pick
and choose, like what games I'm picking up, And unfortunately

(09:31):
those two are not making the cut for this year.
So maybe someday. Air Riders for sure, I like, yeah,
I don't need to go into it in big time,
but man, that game looks fun, looks like it has
so much love and heart poured into it, and fuck,
there's just so much going on. And obviously it's like
very similar to Smash and the Ethos just because it's
the same team or at least SACRAI making it so
that game looks really great. But this is a nice

(09:53):
end of the year drop because I don't think there's
too much more I'm picking up for the rest of
the year. I think I'm gonna let me, let me
look at my list, see what games.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I gotta say over for next year. Next year's the
big big huna. You're especially GTA.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I was thinking about that too, like as excited
as I am for Resident Evil, like maybe I just
wait for a sale on that one, because I don't know,
especially around that time with like Double O seven is
gonna be around that time, that's gonna be a Day
one for me. GTA is definitely a Day one. There's
a lot of them, and so I.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Was kind of surprised on a side quest when I
heard you tell about being a Day one. I was like, like,
not that you don't like the series, but I was like, oh, okay,
Like I wasn't sure, but I thought just because there
was so much stuff, but I was like, maybe just
a really quiet time because sometimes that happens too.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
But I kind of thought, like, I don't know if
that's gonna stick a Day one. Yeah, that's not a quiet.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's but then when you start talking like right, it's
not so And that's where next year's it's just so
funny because I feel like you're gonna have tons of
games that be in the air, and then tons of
games the end of the year because there's gonna be
that spring where they avoid GTA. But GTA itself is
a busy game, right because not only those games are
main story usually long. I feel like those are what
sometimes like fifty to sixty hours. Then they have they

(10:57):
pumped it with side quest stuff. And if there is
an online right away for us, I can promise you
that there's gonna be many. We play lots of games
together like Held out of a cod separately, but are
like like just offline, but there'll be many GTA. I
think GV streams because I think the heights and everything
we can get some really fun hijinks.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
So that right away is a time sink sort of game.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
So yeah, but yeah, Resident Evil it's a good slot
because I think it'll do well, but just lots of
lots of games are gonna have some tough time, I
think next year.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, And I try not to put too much weight
on like how many hours is this game giving me?
Because I actually kind of prefer short games these days.
But when you're asking me to pay like one hundred
and once again one hundred, one hundred and ten fifteen,
whatather its for Resident Evil? When it's gonna be like
probably an eight hour game, It's like, ah, somebody's like
even Residual Village. I waited to like play it in

(11:47):
October and it was like half the half off or
something like that, So I'll probably do the same. That'd
probably be a good seasonal thing for it, because yeah,
twenty twenty six, Double O seven is a day one
GT is a day one Wolverine, even though that's not
till the full Marvel Tokon for me is definitely be
a day one. I'm very excited for that game. So
those are you know, four full price games right then
and there.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And I feel like when we talked about there's maybe
like a I'm gonna say no, but I feel like
there's a if the reviews are really good, Lego Batman
could sway you. You know, I'm saying you're no right now,
but I'm saying any closer. If there's some good vibes
going on, there's.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
World Oh yeah, new fire Molombs coming out next year,
So I'm gonna right, that's a bait Day one probably,
So it's and that's just what we know right now.
I'm sure all the awards it's gonna blast a whole
bunch more.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Technically, you're talking about those Nintendo games, like even rumors wise,
do we have any like heavily strung rumor Nintendo games
for actually like big ones?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Really no, no, and that scares me.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nintendo is actually pretty locked in for a leak stuff.
I mean, there was a big Pokemon leak recently, so
we kind of know what's going on there. But like
I'm not buying Pokemon games usually, especially not Day one
kind of thing, so yeah, it wouldn't be one for me.
But yeah, we don't really know because we have Mario Tennis,
and I don't know, like maybe maybe something's maybe. I

(13:06):
don't think president has been rumored. People just kind of
are looking at calendars and thinking maybe it's time, but
I don't, I don't. I don't know if that's gonna
happen next year.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
With because I think we discussed this a while back.
The Luigian's Mansion team has been free for a little bit, right,
like they put out a different game and then they
because well wait was was the Strikers? Was their last
game or was there something else? Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Man, I think I think that is the same team
that did Strikers. Yeah, I think it's Next Level Games, right.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, because I remember I thought in Luigian Mansion three
they put in like a Striker's East egg and that
starts from the fires flaming for us being like, oh,
something's happening. If that's the case, I just feel like
and because obviously we don't. I can't remember if it
was before after if you did you guys talk about
because it was an episode, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Do you guys talk about Luigian Mansion coming to the
GameCube thing?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't think we did. I do when that was well,
I think that was in that original showcase for Switch
to that that was one of the games that was
gonna come.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
And yeah, so it's been dated for this Thursday, so
that that's cool. I wish it was a little yeah,
I wish it was a little earlier, but okay, a
couple of days for.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
With three as well, though, right, didn't it drop on
Halloween days? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I dropped right before the stream. I remember because me
and had to put like pedal to the metal together.
It was it was awful. But just with that drop,
I know that is I feel like if you do
the mount rushmore of GameCube games. I think Luigi's Mansions
on there for many people for multitude reasons, but because
they do have it there now, I feel like that's
classic synergy starting to get the wheels moving of like, oh,

(14:33):
I really liked these games.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
They already put out to a couple while ago.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So yeah last I think last year was two, so
that's I might. I always like that too. That I mean,
the Switch is just such a great Nintendo console because
it's like the home for so many series now and yeah,
oh yeah, the entire trilogy for Luigi's Mansion on there,
which is really cool.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
So yeah, so I'm not going to trushold you, but
I feel it passes the smell test that we could
next fall begin a Luigi's Mansion, which I don't want
because there's so many I want the game.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Don't want that.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Next year I'll take the announcement, but next year there
is enough games for myself on the wall at right
now to just even backlog stuff. But I think that
I bet that's gonna happen. I can smell it already
and none. Plus it's switched to have like a big audience,
like they were going to a big audience, but even
bigger audience in that I think is maybe not maybe
I'm overestimate, but I think there's somebody out there, because

(15:23):
it's the reason mean Taylor got Switches was to get
Luigi Manche right, I also got for Marvel Alliance. But
I just think that is a nostalgia driven thing that
is a good one two punch if it's not a
Mario game, which could also be a thing too, right,
could just be a three D Mario at any point.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So, Yeah and Strikers was twenty twenty three, I think,
and it didn't get a whole lot of DLC compared
to other Yeah and Sports games that they've done in
the Switch era, So I think if they did go
straight from Strikers to working on I don't know if
they did the remakes though, that's another thing, and I
guess would true take away some of that dev time.
So maybe twenty twenty six would be too soon, but

(16:00):
maybe they could at least announce it or something like that.
I don't know because I guess, freak, when does that
movie come out? The next Mario movie April April, so
they probably maybe they want some fun announcements, but they
probably want things you can actually buy when when that
comes out, so we'll see it. Yeah, there, So we'll
probably have some Mario thing, even if it's I don't
I don't think it'll be the three D Mario No
for that, but we'll probably have some smaller like maybe

(16:22):
Mario Maker is like an early next year thing as well. Yeah, yeah,
I guess they have Yoshi so they have a few things.
But yeah, it does feel like there's an open spot
on the calendar, which also feels like the case for
PlayStation I think Xbox is the only one that we
kind of have a bit of foresight, but then they
end up canceling half the freaking things they know yea,
so who even cares about their calendar?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, and that's the thing too. I feel like switch
to is not that they don't have games.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They definitely do, but I feel like it's the early
days of the PS five where people kept complaining, so
there's no exclusive with the PS five. They keep going
a PS four, but the PS five just kept selling
and selling. I think the Switch To is kind of
like that where I think it's whether someone missed the boat,
like family wise, didn't get a switch one, or their
switch one is broken down. I feel like that life
cycle now for that switch might have gone away to

(17:04):
be like, yeah, let's just get a new one, or
it's a good this year Christmas, Like that's a perfect
what do you get the young kids?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
We don't really know.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's like what we did for their birthdays. Right, it's
a good family. Okay, everybody likes this gift. There's a
game for everybody. You got Blue, you got Mario Kart.
So that's where it's like even like I still think
next year you could just put out Mario Tennis and
probably the Switch Too would have a very successful year
with all the old games. And it sound because you
gotta remember it's we're not even when it switched to
come out in July, June or June fourth. Yeah, like

(17:34):
we're not even a year into it's selling so well,
so there's still gonna be a whole bunch of people
buying the switch to just to have the switch To
in the next calendar year.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right, so absolutely, yeah, And then yeah, I was went
back and saw we're looking at the calendar released for
the rest of the year, and yeah, I think Marvel
Cosmics Inviasions is the only like guaranteed day one buy
for me, unless somehow it's like the reviews are horrendous,
but just based on the team's last game and how
freaking great that was, I think I don't think that
will be the case. But even like plans fors Zombie,

(18:03):
I was gonna pick that up, that remaster remake, then
it's just like extremely buggy and like half assed and stuff.
So like, I don't know, there's a lot of games
these days where I I don't pre order anything. I'm
I gotta make sure I wait and see because so
many things just come out half baked these days, which
is unfortunate. Yeah, so there you go, there's Marvel Cosmic
Invasions in My draft is alive, and I feeling pretty

(18:26):
good about my chances right now. We won't do the
full recap because we did that last week, but uh yeah,
that's that's good news for me. Now we just have
to hope for Kirkland that Mina the Hollower does get
it released. Date this year, but who knows about that one.
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Speaker 3 (20:29):
DISAPPOINTMENT i looked not a single. BIONICAL i was super.
Surprised nowhere on. There but this this is the other thing,
too that me and, sbubs because That spubs has helped
me with some. Stuff the unfortunate thing is THE ps
five and THE ps four communities are, different And i'm
using MY ps four version BECAUSE i. Can't you only
get one hundred slots for creative, characters AND i can't
fill up my base game with the weirdos and, stuff

(20:50):
especially with me And David sbub's, Stream SO i had
THE ps four But i'm pretty happy with the. Roster but,
yeah it's gonna be fun. Time, yeah come, donate come
watch if you can't just share the stream like. It
we're gonna be going for twenty four. Hours there's gonna
be a bunch of goals that will do the day,
of there's gonna be goals that we could do. Outside so,
yeah it's always a fun. Day i'm very excited to
get the crew back together AFTER Gv day because that
was a tons of fun time and we made to one,

(21:12):
am AND i feel like that was more low key
because we were just sitting the whole. Time, luckily with the,
stream you, know we're actually for a bit more moving and,
yeah everything you donate goes TOWARDS Bc Chiln's.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Hospital don't have to hit the.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Goal anything we can get is gonna go there and
help towards, surgery, recovery hospital stays all that, stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
So very well. Said, okay let's jump to our first ad.
Break we'll be right. Back, okay we are. Back Halo
Campaign evolved is the name of a remake remaster somewhere
the classic ambiguous in. Between no one really.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Knows you can't draft, it, Though i'd say probably, right
couldn't have drafted.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
It ew that would be an Interesting that's an interesting
conversation that we'll have to have In, january because there's
this is definitely not a spitting image of the original
because they don't have multiplayer in, there, Right like it's
just a campaign. Remake SO i could also see that
tanking reviews, POTENTIALLY i don't, know well have to, see but,
yeah this Is Halo Campaign. Evolved this is, a LIKE i,

(22:11):
said remake remaster of the Original halo's campaign only ONLY
i don't know if you can like even go into
the multiplayer, maps like there's obviously no multiplayer IN i
don't know if you can like boot those up you
can do multiplayer co op like, campaign, Right, yeah but
it seems like it's kind of a paired down version of.
This from WHAT i, understand this is the original quote
unquote original code with like the unreal engine layer over

(22:35):
top of it to give it these, visuals which is
exactly what they did for The oblivion remaster earlier this,
year where it's, Like, okay the game actually plays completely the,
same it has the same, bugs it has the same
issues because it's just like a code of paint that's
like the second. Engine there's two engines righting at the same.
TIME i don't know all this, works but that's what
they're doing here as. Well but the only THING i
don't know is if this is the same code from

(22:56):
that original, game or if it's the code from like
The Master chief, collection WHICH i don't know if that
even had different. Codes SO i don't. KNOW i Just
i've seen conflicting. REPORTS i don't think they said in
their article like what exactly it is, here BUT i
think for the most, part they're trying to be as
true to the original game in terms of its feel as.
Possible So i'm guessing that means like no, sprinting like
like the Current halo games have and some of these,

(23:18):
things some of these limitations or expansions that they've. Made
along with, that it is getting three prequel, missions which
who knows how long our short those? Are are those
full length missions that are like half an hour hour?
Long are they just quick little romps through like two.
Environments we'll have to kind of wait and. See AS i,
mentioned no, multiplayer and then of course the biggest thing
of all is that it'll be the series debut on

(23:41):
A sony PlayStation, console because this is going to be
coming out ON ps five as well as of Course
xbox AND. Pc so they've finally gone nuclear with their
multi platform, Strategy. Travis and they said they, Didn't they
said they weren't going to do, this but they say
so many things and they just go back on. It
so it's almost meaningless to listen to the exacs Over
xbox these. Days but, yeah they're finally making the. Jump

(24:03):
SO i want to hear your thoughts on that element
of it, first and then kind OF i don't know
your interest level or thoughts on just the idea of
this remake in.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
General, yeah well that's one THING i talked about a
little bit On trafs told, You and now there's with
this never trust what these people that are billionaires or
running multi billionaire corporations are. Saying And i'm not saying
this in like a they're all, evil like you, know
some of them might be not great, people but it's
in a sense where they are they're trying to look
after the company's bottom, line Right, so and that's WHERE

(24:31):
i Think we've seen this montage a bunch of, times
BUT i feel Like halo was the peak and then
the just nosedive of seeing five ten minute montages Of
Phil spencer and team talking about the two games And
halo never and the classic quote of if we lose
our way With, halo we lose our way To.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Xbox and that's kind of.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
It like we've talked about as many, times we knew
this was, coming but this is the official kind OF
i would, say nail in the, coffin but nail the
coffin for The. Xbox we know Because i's t other
themily where it's it's just like it's it's not gonna
be like sad of where it completely goes, away but
in the sense where you, know in five to ten,
years my girls might like if they're still buying, games
it might just be a PlayStation, nintendo, Right and there's

(25:10):
all these rumors about these these almost two Grand xbox
that's gonna happen next, time which sound like just A.
Pc BUT i Guess i'm the reason we knew this
was happening is BECAUSE i know it's not the exact
same and it's not as, big but the Second gears
got Onto, SONY i think for, ME i knew it was.
Over it's like because that that to me is just
the second. Step that's like wetting the whistle a little,

(25:33):
bit getting people. Ready and, Yeah i've never played a
Full halo, game never owned A halo. GAME i don't,
think and knock on wood even in The gauntlet because
The gauntless year we're going it's gonna be, random so
it's gonna wear pull names for a hat or in
games from a.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hat.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Everything we're gonna see what. Happens never had to play
it in there, either so we'll see what. Happens so,
YEAH i don't. KNOW i could be like it would only.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Be us as a group playing together having some.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
FUN i don't don't really have much interest in playing it,
solely like Like, halo And i've had An, xbox so
it's not THAT i, didn't it's just it came up
in a time WHERE i was not really invested in you,
know the first person shooter. GAMES i know it has huge,
touchstones BUT i never got any of the new ones
Because i've heard they're kind of. Alright so it to,
me if you're looking at the New, xbox which which they,

(26:19):
are this makes complete. Sense get this on. There even
when they did the, reveal this isn't a rumor THAT
i can't. Remember his official title Wasn't phil but someone
said like this is the start Of halo being on
the PlayStation going, Forward.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Like it's some booty who, yeah forget another big.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah big wig over.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
There so that's where it's, LIKE i feel like we
already knew, this but if you wanted any BECAUSE i
felt like there were a lot OF X Boy xbox
people X, boys but a lot Of xbox, people and
Even tail wouldn't admit, this, right but even somebody that
was like like really, HARDCORE i Think halo was the crown, jewel, like,
well that's that's our, guy you, know like that's our.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Chief he's our.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Brand he's A, savior and it's just you gotta get
used to That xbox is. Not they're shifting in a
completely for, manner AND i think it sucks BECAUSE i
think there's multiple ways this could have been. AVOIDED i
think there's mismanagement since The Xbox one, era which is
not a hot. Take we all know, that but it's
just it is sad for me in this. SENSE i
was just, fine you, Know bug And taylor about our

(27:14):
sales being better and having better. Games but you, KNOW
i didn't want this console to potentially go, away you,
know because, like, yeah and at the same, time the next,
ONE i mean some of the emily like if there
is like a Last xbox console that's kind of like A,
pc it's, like, ah Maybe i'll get. That at the same,
time it's like a twenty twelve hundred to seventeen hundred
DOLLARS usd or, Yeah United states price, Take it's like

(27:36):
that's a that's that's a lot of, money and it's
like what bang from my? Buck may ALSO i haven't
been on since you guys talked about but, YEAH i
ditched my games pass just BECAUSE i will get it
when we there's something that interests. Me but right, now
there's nothing THAT i can't buy on PlayStation and for
thirty bucks a, month that's just a. Lot so, yeah
it's it was inevitable that this was gonna, happen but
it is just weird seeing The halo cover with the blue,

(27:58):
Shrap LIKE i know that's not even the real, cover
but just seeing that aesthetic it feels kind of weird,
stuff you.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Know so, yeah it's an odd.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Time but it's just it is this that we're Not
we're no longer talking about the future Of, Xbox like
this Is xbox, now this is the. Present they are
a big publisher that has some. Software you, know EVEN
i didn't follow, it but, like isn't that handheld super? Expensive?
Too LIKE i just saw feel complaining about. It, yeah
so it's just it's definitely more for people that have

(28:27):
money to just kind of throw. Around and that's where
The xbox that they do have last, console sure for history,
sake WHAT i like to own, It, sure BUT i
also don't just have money to throw. Around you, Know
i'm luckier than more people out, there BUT i don't
have that amount to be dishing out for pretty much
like a SMALLER.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Pc so it's we'll.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
SEE i THINK i think they're primarily you, know hardware
next five years will likely go away and then it's just.
Games AND i don't, know LIKE i, guess do they
do still like game? Like do they still do press
conferences and show like like when they do like An xbox?
Director do they still do that if they don't have
a console to?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sell you?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
KNOW i think. SO i think because now more games
have more a larger, audience who's actually gonna be interested
in those, games especial having it on more platforms than
when there WAS i, MEAN pc is a huge, audience
but it's kind of a different. Space so when you
have more more showcases where it's, like, oh a quarter
of things in here are on twitch to or literally

(29:20):
probably one hundred percent of them are on, PlayStation then it's, Like,
okay now the PlayStation fans have a reason to tune
into this if they weren't, before and even The nintendo
fans do as. Well SO i think they'll do still
do that because they still own just an extreme amount of,
studios even though they're closing a bunch of them and
firing a ton of, people but they still have a
ton of stuff to show, off SO i think they'll
probably continue to do that for. Years BUT i Think

(29:41):
i'm in a similar boat WHERE i think for, me
the point was really the Game pass price, increase where
that's just not really a good value. Anymore and, Like
i've gotten so many years of amazing value out of
Game pass on my series x AND i don't regret
getting this console at, All BUT i don't see myself
picking up Another xbox in the, future especially If, yeah
this thing That Sarah bahan was saying to being a
premium high end, Consoles like what where where's the value in?

(30:04):
This like it is it for the, games BUT i
can play those, elsewhere and THEN i can also play
all these other things that your console doesn't, have OR i,
can you, know buy this console that's extremely expensive to
then also pay an extremely expensive subscription every month to
access these. Games it just it doesn't really make sense. Anymore,
YEAH i guess it is for extremely rich, people so, like, sure,
yeah that's, fine but, yeah, uh that's just not really

(30:27):
worth it for me, anymore especially when there's so many old.
GAMES i still have to, play so many things on
My Steam i've bought and haven't played. Yet there's a
million indies that could go play, instead So i'm not
gonna be hurting for games to play in the. FUTURE
i could be.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Wrong i'm not trying to put them in a CORNERCAUSE
i don't, know BUT i just almost feel like if
they're extremely rich, PEOPLE i feel like they're gonna have
like THIS pc that can do, everything you, know because it's.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Like that sometimes for me is like the updating and
this and, That so go DO i.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Want to spend money that where if people are like
the one percent or just very lucky and just have
mind to blow and it's, like, oh just get A
pc and then take it as shit and they DO,
X y AND z to control it work like that's
where it's it'll be. Interesting BUT i just kind of
unfortunately with the past ten years Of, xbox just have
to lean to it probably won't work out and then
they'll just stop doing. It like LIKE i, said there's

(31:13):
almost just like a novelty of WHY i want to
get that console BECAUSE i do think that could be
the last one they ever, produced this upcoming, one because
we already heard rumors that they want to get out
of this.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Business and for me it'd be good BECAUSE i don't
have A. Pc but there's.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Always games that show it A Summer Game awards or
a game or like A Summer Games fest or game
awards where ALL i can't wait and then The steam
thing pops, up like oh. Damn so this is like
could work for something that's like a newbie like, meat
BUT i don't think THERE'S i can fully met in this.
SPHERE i don't think there's too many that are like,
me that are, like, OH i would just get this
to play Some steam. GAMES i think most people like

(31:47):
have THE pc for. That SO i Think i'm in
a very small. Demographic and then also you gotta take
my small demographics say, hey who's enough money to pay for? This?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Right so IT'S i don't, know it's we'll see what.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Happens BUT i just imagine that they put this, out
doesn't do well, again and then they kind of it's
kind of kibosh, hardware you.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Know, YEAH i THINK i mentioned this WHEN i was
talking With, taylor just, like, well even this handheld they just,
released it's not really, theirs, right like they just partnered
up with another, company slap their logo on, it and,
yeah it's An xbox. Handheld but like not, really you,
know it's it's it kind of looks like, it but
it's really just like wearing a wig and makeup pretty.
Much and SO i feel like maybe maybe that's the future,
Too like maybe there's SOME pc company out there that is, like,

(32:27):
oh we're gonna make like a SMALLER, pc like physically
something that's meant to be played on a home. Screen
and then Maybe xbox, like, hey you want to partner
up and we'll slap our logo on it and we'll
make the Next xbox. Console so maybe we could see
something like. That but, yeah it's it's IT'S i don't.
Know it just feels like they're kind of withering away
a little, bit even though they're more than. Ever they
have some so MUCH ip and so much stuff they could.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Do but you, know the point when they Got blizzard And,
activision we, thought, oh this is they're really gonna this
is gonna be interesting.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Now but it's just and maybe will LIKE I i
don't really care personally IF i have their, Box, LIKE
i don't care IF i have to play their stuff on.
PlayStation it might be weird the first TIME i boot
Up halo on a, PlayStation but then you know, What
i'll get used to it pretty quick and it's, like, oh,
yeah the game is the, same the controller is just
like a little bit. Different but coming back to campaign evolved.
Here so it's been a long time Since i've played

(33:19):
Through halo one. AGAIN i never even booted Up Master Chief,
collection SO i haven't gone back to like those, versions
that version of these old. Games BUT i Love. HALO
i love this, series especially that original, trilogy and play
through this campaign many times with my friends growing, up
very nostalgic for. IT i think it would be fun
to go to a co op play through with you
And taylor And kirkland getting, THERE.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I wouldn't know what's, common that's the. Thing i'd have
no idea what's.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Happened we wouldn't either for at least the three prequel,
missions because there's some new stuff in, There So i'm
down for that. TOO i think that's. Fine LIKE i
couldn't EVEN i couldn't tell you all the missions In
halo one, now so it's mostly gonna feel probably new for,
me regardless of whether or not these are new missions or.
Not and obviously with the new code of, paint it's
gonna look a whole lot, different And i'm sure they
throw Some it sounds like they're not going to throw
in like weapons from future games in, there but maybe

(34:04):
they'll have some a kind couple extra fun little bits
of bops in.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
There do you how? Much how many people could you
play in the? Campaign originally back of the, DAY.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I only remember if you're doing, two BUT i feel
like you probably could do.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Four. OKAY i hope that's the case BECAUSE i remember.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Four And halo, three but that was, Online Like i'm
trying to think split. Screen how?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Many, yeah so do we think online it could do
three to four because that's MY i.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Hope they said you can do four?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Online, okay, perfect BECAUSE i REMEMBER i. WOULD i was
completely down BECAUSE i didn't play it. FOREVER i was
completely down to Replay gears Of. War WHEN i got
TO ps, five even THOUGH i have, IT i was, like,
oh that'd be, Fun LIKE i haven't done this. FOREVER
i did it many. Times my friends stam up playing,
that AND i would have been like us doing it.
Together i'd have been. Fun but then it's, like, okay
it's just. Two so it's, like, OKAY i get that
because that's the way that game was kind of from
the ground. Up but, yeah it's even if it's three

(34:50):
is great because it's all these sometimes starting to get
all four of us together on the same.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Weekend but, four, that's, uh that's. Perfect so, yeah that'd
be a good.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Time just some googling, here And i'm not trusting THE
ai over. You that's what was. Wrong it looks like
the original game had a max of two, locally but
then you could do, online even on that Original Xbox
online to get into four, players and then The Master
Check collection version had like four. Players well WHEN i
don't know if you could do it split, screen but
at least that's in an era where everyone has, Online, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
So there should be no excuse in twenty twenty six
for a stunt to be able to do four people For, YEAH.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think online they'll hopefully have that in. There so
that's that's pretty. Cool and if that that, IS i
guess a change. Potential WELL i don't know If once,
AGAIN i don't know if you can actually do that split,
screen but who's Playing halo split screen these? Days? ANYWAY
i actually did with a friend like last. Year it
was super, fun but that's a very rare. Thing to
line something like that. Up but, Yeah i'm excited for.
THIS i, Mean i'm not gonna pay for, It like

(35:43):
IF i the next Time i'm like on Game pass
to play you, Know Elder scroll six for thirty dollars a,
month then like it's probably when i'd play. This i'm
not gonna like downloa because even you, KNOW i still
want to get To Halo infants. Campaign still haven't done.
THAT i don't even THINK i ever Played Halo five's,
campaign So i'm a little behind on my. Campaign but
that's where it's always. GOOD i guess to go back
to the original one because then it's, like WELL i

(36:04):
don't need to play the other things in. ADVANCE i
can kind of just jump right. In SO i do Love.
HALO i still like to play Some infinite every once
in a. While probably do that a lot less now
That i'm gonna be subscribed to Game pass very, Little but,
YEAH i do Love, halo always. Will it's a very
close to my heart. Series so there you. Go Halo
Campaign evolved is a, thing.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
AND i guess the positive the one pro BECAUSE i
saw obviously a lot of people that are very heavy
on The xbox. SIDE i think there's a bit of.
It there's something that's, meming like oh, man like going,
Overboard but there is some of people that go like
if they've played An xbox or whole life and Been loyals,
fan never went, Anywhere LIKE i do feel bad for those,
people like it will feel weird in come. Time LIKE i,

(36:44):
KNOW i don't know if you will get that. Console
he has to run Past, madison but at some point
when they start making, them Like taylor will have to you,
know unless he gets A pc buy a PlayStation to Play.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Halo but like that's WHERE i, SAY i guess.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
The positive is a lot of stuff sucks that some
of the branding's going away and the consoles might die,
eventually all the.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Stuff but at least with them being this big.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Company that you could hopefully in five years they'll make
a New halo, game you could still play it on the.
PlayStation i'm not saying Like sonic was this be all
end all, game but at least or like The sega
died and it went away for a little, bit, Right
so at least some of these brands. Whatnot obviously it's
just because of, money but if you like a certain
brand OR ip you have a chance of getting a new, game,

(37:21):
right especially if this does really well in. PlayStation i
think Implore xbox is even more Of, hey let's get
a New halo. Out let's make it really, big because
now it's not even, like oh we have to compete,
nowadays like, okay we could make tons of money off of, this.
Right so that's the only silver Line i'll get for
anyone that's really bummed out is if you like some
of these, games they're not going. Away it's not like
if a company would win out of business and then

(37:43):
oh what happens To, gears what happens To, fable what
happens to you, know Master? Chief sometimes those things get,
Bought but there's many franchise that are out there that
are just. Dead and at the same, point you never,
know Because xbox is killed, itself we'll Get Perfect, dark,
Right so you never.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Know BUT i think your big ones are, safe AND
i think the should do relatively.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
WELL i, don't AND i Think i'm probably in a
small then diagram of people have Played halo at, All
But i'm sure there's some people out there that same
thing have only had a PlayStation their whole, life, Right.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
So mm, Hmm, yeah, Definitely AND i think that's maybe
a bit of a missing piece of the puzzle for
PlayStation in general these, days is like a first person
shooter campaign focused kind of. Thing from their first, parties
it seems like they're not putting that into that. Now
they did Acquire, bungie like the original developer Of, halo
so it's funny to have this kind of full circle connective.
Moment that is. Funny but, yeah, LIKE i don't, KNOW

(38:32):
i think this is like useful to. Have, WELL i,
mean they Had concord and that bomb of, course and
what's gone now and Then bungee is Making marathon like
the series they made Before, Halo so it's it's funny
that they're kind of intersecting in a way. Almost BUT i,
think you, know just like it's happened With florza And
See If thieves and like these Other xbox games that

(38:52):
finally get poured over to, PlayStation you look back at
PlayStation's best selling games of the months after that game comes,
out and like they're always right there in the top.
Echelon so obviously there is proven to be like if
you're getting THOSE i DON'T i guess it would be
good to look at how big The gears remake did on.
PlayStation that would be a good litmus. Test BUT i
think even way past, That halo is campaing of always

(39:14):
gonna sell huge y on on. PlayStation that's gonna be
it's goods gonna be good For. Xbox they're gonna make
a lot of money from.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That, Yeah AND i think when that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Happens another thing IS i think the last shoot really
draw it For, xbox because who knows what they'll do
with this console or. Whatnot BUT i think the last
shoot to drop will be going away from like The
Times exclusive.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Right even then they might go, like, well we could
just make more.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Money let's say any Ad jones two comes, out right
and last time it was like six months or eight months.
Whatever if they look at enough dad and, go you know,
what we would just make a lot more money if
we just dropped at both PlayStation xbox right, here, like
who cares if they're buying it on. ESPECIALLY i guess
to that, point a lot of these Games Indan jones.
Two we're gonna talk about another fallout in the, Future halo.

(39:56):
Anything if that, console this big expense one comes out
and is very, niche it sells very. Niche they will
be more, employeed like you, know let's just get everything
day one and not worry about like selling it on
this seventeen hundred dollar. Console, Right so, yeah, yeah that's,
right like, that that's the next shoot to, drop and
it's gonna. DROP i don't know, when BUT I i
Think i'm pretty confident by saying we're in twenty twenty.

(40:18):
FIVE i bet by twenty twenty, SEVEN i think, that
Or i'll say with, me.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Because we know so far it's Just Doom Dark ages
is the only ONE i can think of off the
top of my head that dropped day and date on.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
PlayStation i, think so that's so, far unless there's probably
some little title out there that we're not thinking, of
but like for the big. Boys, yeah And i'll say
by like the first half of twenty twenty, seven it
will happen or already have.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Happened So i'll drop And date on PlayStation that. Remake
oh THAT i don't.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
KNOW i feel like it would have right because it's like,
obliving you be able to play there, before so they
don't feel like it's a big hold. BACK i know
they could hold it back but it's not like, a oh,
man they're holding back.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
The remake to it looks like it did release day
and date on, PlayStation which you know that was, like
oh that was A ps three game as, well so
it makes. Sense and obviously both those are like from
The bethesda, Umbrella so maybe that changes things a little
bit when you're looking at like Genuine xbox ip that
they they. Created Obviously bethesda gets like a little bit
of their own. Management they kind of run things a

(41:19):
little bit on their, own even though they're under that
that humongous umbrella these. Days but, yeah it's already happened
a couple of, times SO i think we'll start to see.
THAT i think even The gears one probably did, too
right like, that, PROBABLY i think so, yeah, yeah SO
i guess maybe it's a little different with, remakes but
you know it's gonna happen With halo as. Well, right
that's also dropping day and, date so once that's kind
of an expectation of, like oh, Yeah halo game released

(41:40):
PlayStation same? Day why is why Does halo six not
release same day on? PlayStation people will be kind of
confused about, That so maybe they just kind of have
to commit to that at some, point because it's just
an expectation.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
The One i'll be watching for next, year because that'll
be the same thing as Like halo going to PlayStation
is what they do With fable because The fable is day.
ONE i don't think it will, be but if it
is day one with, PlayStation AND i think that's every
big title going. Forward could do that the Next, blade
like When blade comes, out all the stuff like because
again they just might not see the money.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Happening because once again on the under The bethesda wing of,
things which would be. Nice that'd be cool for that.
GAME i want it to just have the hugest audience
ever and get a bunch OF. Dlc so that's that's
What I'm, oh, god interesting sad On. Arcane that would
be the saddest thing, EVER i.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Hope, Yeah and that's where there's still probably a lot
of sad stuff to happen down the line, too, Right
so it's an interesting time and video. Games you, know
already hearing rumors ABOUT ps. Six it's, LIKE i, just you,
Know i'm so happy with MY ps five right. Now,
yeah we're moving too, fast.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
You, Know, SO i MEAN i did just buy A
ps five in the last calendar, years so for me
that is still very.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Fresh but, yeah, yeah but as you've, SEEN i don't
think they're gonna be. THEY i think more than, ever
they're just into making games for the old base as.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Definitely all, right let's, well we're already kind of in
The bethesda, spear so let's stay there with a little
two for. One so it Was Fallout day last, WEEK
i believe in they announced A fallout Four anniversary, edition
AND i think this was like two or three weeks.
Ago the Follow out seventy, six they announced A dlc
maybe alongside like A fallout season TWO tv show trailer

(43:15):
something like. That it was a something, yeah, yeah something
along the. Lines pretty much what they announced For fallout
seventy six is this new update Called Burning, springs which
features the Ghoul Walton goggins character in the, game and
he's like giving you bounty hunter type quests and it's
going To, ohio WHICH i didn't know this UNIL i
looked at a map of THE, us but like they
started In West virginia and then they went To pittsburgh

(43:36):
and now they're over In, ohio which are all like you,
know bordered with each, other so they're all staying in
the same realm of. THINGS i don't really know how
The ghule got over. There i'm sure there'll be some
story reason about why he's chilling In ohio given over
like Bounty hunter. Requests so that's one. Thing but, then,
yeah the newer thing here is That fallout is Getting
fallout four is getting anniversary editions coming Out november, eleventh

(43:57):
which includes all THE dlc that that gave, had as
well as one hundred and Fifty Creation CLUB dlc add
ons that are included in there as, well and then
you can download more as well through The Creation club
stuff that still. Exists and then they said that next
year is it's coming to switch To so that's that's
kind of maybe the maybe the biggest part of, this
like we'll see how that. Runs that could be that

(44:18):
could not go, well but it is a you, know
game from twenty, fifteen so maybe maybe it could go
pretty well at this. Point BUT i wanted to bring
this up, BECAUSE i, mean, one there's been maybe some,
rumors maybe, speculation maybe just people being hopeful of like,
okay if season two of THE tv show is going To,
vegas like Maybe New vegas gets a, remake remaster or
like every.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Year people all the time About New vegas, something you,
Know BUT i don't.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
KNOW i feel like maybe that was quiet for a few,
years THOUGH i feel like it came up more, recently
like specifically with the show and, yeah like knowing that, Information.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
YEAH i think it comes up a lot more.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
OFTEN i just feel like that's always like a fan
cat like a fan dream of like either A New
vegas game or like a heavy remake Of New, vegas you.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
KNOW i feel like that ual rumors, though have been
more For fallout three and that one maybe being the
next one to get a, remaster remake, Treatment AND i
think that kind of spurred up a little bit more
When oblivion got that, remaster because it's, like, oh this
IS ps Three xbox three sixty. Era you would think
that maybe it's they could employ the similar techniques that
they use to make that. Remake, Obviously bethesta didn't make that.

(45:20):
Remake they just got another studio THAT i forget the
name of to do, that you, know throw that unreal
engine code of paint over top of. It so it
seems like maybe that would be the next, One AND
i did a not a full play, through BUT i
played a good amount Of fallout, three maybe a year
or two, ago and, yeah LIKE i think the game
still holds, up but you, definitely like specific, specifically the
gun mechanics in that game are like not very good at.

(45:41):
All you can't even like fully aim down scopes of
your gun unless it's like a sniper that has like
a scope on. It so obviously there's like a lot
of room for improvements there to make the game just
like a bit more better on the action side of.
Things but, yeah like obviously those would be the more,
exciting more worthy, remakes but this is the easier thing to,
do is to just put a little bit of extra
something On fallout four and then sell that. Again and

(46:04):
it's funny, that LIKE i feel like we were meaning
on Like. Skyrim it's, like, oh we're past a decade
now of them remaking new versions Of, skyrim and it's, like,
yeah follow up four has been out for over ten years,
now OR i, GUESS i guess it came out In
november twenty, fifteen, right so IT i guess it's just
hitting its ten year. Mark you're muted, Now, Travis but,
yeah like it's that it's ten year mark and now

(46:24):
we're kind of just in that same. Cycle so you,
know we got The oblivion. One it gives me a
hope that maybe we will see. Those but, yeah AND
i think this does make a lot of, sense just
Because fallout, FIVE i still think is very far far
away Of, yeah The Eldest girl six is their next.
Thing they're gonna support that WITH, Dlc so we're not
gonna see fall of five for a very long time
unless they hand that ip off to some other, studio

(46:45):
WHICH i don't think they'll, do SO i think in the,
meantime you fill the void with seventy, six dealcs with
remakes three masters of older. GAMES i just was hoping
for maybe something a little bit more exciting Than fallout,
four which already looks and plays pretty damn.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Good, Still, yes, yeah, YEAH i think that's the interesting.
Thing we've obviously talked about That Emi skyrim people felt
like that. WAY i feel like Obviously last Of us
gets meaned upon a lot of those images of look
at the upgraded one and people go upgrade one like it's.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
IT'S i thinkful before it's hard to cut you. Off,
god it's like next gen patch like last. Year so
that was, LIKE i actually got a recent update like
super super, recently so it doesn't even feel like it's
been a long and like did we really need this right?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah SO i think it's. One one THING i SAID
i was mute BECAUSE i was. Coughing. Yeah that WAS
i think our first real group game, review because, you
me And berklin had.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
It AND i remember a classic review That taylor in
the old days that you keepers just sat there and
listened to us for an hour talk About, fallout and
then he gave like a five minute review Called.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Duty and THEN i think we, figured, oh you Don't actually.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
It was so okay to sit out on a podcast.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Episode, yeah that was the rule for the because like
what that was Still november and we started the podcast
In July, august so so about three months we had,
like oh we got to do an episode of only
all of us can be. There so it's interesting, that
so go back.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
List that's. Funny.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Two another thing that's funny is you Have last Of,
Us mario And, fallout these massive, franchises gaming, ips getting, shows,
movies and there's not like a specific sequel to go.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
With them or game to go with. Them i'll See.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Mario there's tons of, them, right but it's like where always, like,
well they're gonna have that THREE D mario here at some,
point and they never really have since.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Then and for the next, Movie last Of.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Us there's been rumblings that they're doing The last Of
us three and MAYBE i guess they were working on
that the online, game, right so that could have been,
it but that's dead now and now saying with, Fault
so that's the, thing BECAUSE i do Remember Neil druckman saying, that,
hey anytime a season comes, out we sell a bunch
of copies Of last Of, us AND i guarantee you
that's the same way we'll fall. Out the same way
is when that show. Ended i've always heard great things

(48:46):
About New, vegas never played. IT i don't have games
passed right, now but that's the one GAME i would
like to maybe after season, two If i'm hyped them
fallout AND i have a little times like, Oh i'd
love to get that. Off see NOT i don't Think
massive game to like other games that are out right,
now but to the extent of there will be people
like myself because even, now but back then there's just
stuff you, missed especially when you were. Younger you couldn't buy, everything,

(49:07):
Right SO i think this is your kind of like
kind of insituay that we're fault. Five, yeah long ways.
Away so it's like you either have three. Options either
you gotta rush that game, out which we know is
not gonna happen with THE. Testa they're not that type of,
company right Of, oh we just got to throw something,
together so that's not.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Happening they're not gonna hand it, off which you, Know
i'm curious why they were spin.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
OFFS i want to do. THAT i actually have that
on the calendar to do Pitching fallout For fallout. Spinoffs
SO i don't want to get into it now BECAUSE
i definitely want to dedicate a full episode of. That
BUT i think that's just the, answer and like even
THAT i agree with.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
THAT i agree with that BECAUSE i feel like That
sally hot, cakes and maybe just don't make it also
as big as well, too like make it some, like,
hey we want to get half, this but just because
the other thing Is fallout is known for obviously their
big worlds being very. Weird you, know, uh voice trees or,
whatever dialogue, trees but also like Even fallout, four WHICH
i think is everyone looks, like oh good.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
ONE i REALLY i enjoyed it most.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Time their stories are intriguing in the concept of, them,
Right so the same thing of like maybe make the
world fifty percent smaller than Fall at, four but the
story just rocks, right and it's not or even like
what they do Because i'd, SAY i don't know what
size it, is but with like the outer world and
stuff like, that, right that's nowhere near the size that
but people like that and has a lot of, Options
SO i think there's. Ways but if they're not going

(50:22):
to do any of this, stuff then this is the
best scores action just to simply make. Money i'm with
you Where fallut four is not that. Old IF i
wanted to play, It i'd probably just reboot it up
on MY playsps, Four and even that might even work
for MY ps, five like my own.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
COPY i don't know for, sure but a lot of
the games are backwards. Compatible do you know if that even?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Works like, no Just fall, four just old fall. Four,
Yeah so it's, like IF i really want to play,
IT i would just pick up that same. Fog and
of course THERE'S dlc this and. That but it's just
but at the same, time there's always people that missed fault,
for and there's always gonna be new people that are
coming in the gaming system that same.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Thing i've never heard of fault, for never got it.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
On their, Hands So switch audience potentially a big pocket
for that that.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Too so, YEAH i think in this, sense it's smart
to make. It the show's well. Reviewed i'm excited for the.
Show we'll be reviewing.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
That and, yeah, NO i think IT'S i think it's
a smart decision if obviously the game is nowhere near
and they're not doing your, suggestion WHICH i, agree of
doing just a spin off or.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Something so mm.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Hmm. Yeah and THEN i kind of just thought of,
this didn't have it in our notes or, anything But
starfield like, that there was like they kind of teased THAT.
Dlc that was like two months. Ago, now, YES i
feel like we haven't seen anything about. It do you
think that's like A Game awards level thing or does
that get like a spot thing at The Xbox developer

(51:39):
showcase where we get like a Big STARFIELD, Dlc like
when when's that game kind of coming back into the
limelight a.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Little bit do they have with the?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Directs do they kind of have like a rhythm of
every couple of months or certain dates and whatnot yet or?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
No BECAUSE i don't follow them as much The xbox.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Ones so they have their developer direct Every. January it's
at the end Of. January then they have their, yeah
LIKE e three spot showcase and that's like the only
guaranteed places that you. See there's, like, UH i guess
that's where they lowered all the stops and they put
a lot of money into like a production value to
put like an actual big show.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Together did Uh halo have a date?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yet call a campaign? Involved, YEAH i think it's just
twenty twenty, six let me, See.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Okay my theory then would be that maybe it comes.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
This twenty twenty, Six, no no, month or an, OKAY
i feel.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Good Game board's always an, option Right. Joe but sometimes
you don't.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Know Sometimes xbox has been silent at those things like
The xbox brand and now That bethesa is a part of. That,
right there's always some like a games out OR. Dlc so,
maybe BUT i feel like start, field get bigger. Showcase
you never, know BECAUSE i Think jeff will sometimes take
whatever but at the same, time maybe if he has bigger,
stuff Especially december is the bigger, show it's a thing
of like, okay and.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
That could be like THE ps five announcement for it as.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Well that's WHAT i was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
THAT i think whether It's Game awards or whether It's,
JANUARY i think THE dlc will be saved or and
also if you get ON ps, five it's all this
together as. Well so that's What i'm kind of theorizing,
That and that's WHY i thought If halo was early
in next, year they might go, like, oh let's way
a little, bit Let halo have its time and then
roll At. Starfield but If halo's twenty twenty, six that
could be more in the. Spring so, yeah my theory

(53:17):
IS i bet It's, january and THEN i bet it's
also THE ps five announcement, too easily could be game,
wards BUT i think whenever you get THAT dlc comes
THE ps five announcement as.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well, yeah, YEAH i Guess STARFIELD dlc does just make
sense to me to be in that developer direct thing
if they want to do, that and that might be
a good way to show off here's what's. New maybe
weird have like An Xbox developer direct where they now
it's a PlayStation announced. STAKE i feel like those usually come,
later BUT i THINK i Guess doomed Dark age is
WHAT i had that, Too SO i don't. Know MAYBE

(53:46):
i just need to get used to that and it's
not that weird anymore because they've just done it so many.
Times but drives any other fallout? Thoughts or should we
move all along down the dusty old trail?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Here, no let's get dust, then all, Right, well let's.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Dust it first to AN ad break and we'll be right. Back,
okay we are. Back Donkey Kong bananza came out In, July,
travis it's taken you a couple, months but you've finally
rolled credits on this bad. Boy you've peeled back the
banana and had every last potassium bit there for. You

(54:20):
we did a kind of spoiler free discussion where we,
talked you, know about our first few hours with the
game back In, July so go back and check out that.
Episode but from here on, out full. Spoilers if you
haven't beat the game yet and don't want to know
what happens near the end or, anything this is not
the discussion for. You there's an episode all about that
kind of. Thing we probably won't talk about mechanics. Much
probably more just like worlds and moments and things like

(54:41):
that would be my. Guess but, Yeah, travis you've beat this.
Game now what do You what do you think of
Don kulk And bananza now that you've played through this whole.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Thing, yeah, HONESTLY i think that's THE i talked about
that original, one AND i THINK i still hold the
same way where it's a game and even earlier, tonight
it's a game THAT i have lots of fun and
can EASi beg out of kill some, TIME i do
want to smash some, Stuff but at the same, TIME
i think, one there's multiple times WHERE i, pick, oh
here's my chunk to do a big play, through and
then suddenly half in my life life's been hectic since

(55:10):
Telling combinaza's come.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Out but ALSO i.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Think there's times WHERE i would be doing it and,
then like we talked about the initial, review but it's
still continued on where it just can feel a little
samesy at, times, Right so you just DON'T i don't
feel like it's like a desk stranding where MAN i
don't want to put down this remote because the next
thing across, there what's this guy in and gim? Me
you just don't, know, right or even LIKE gm mode for,
me it's like you can get one email where it's, like,

(55:32):
Oh i'm playing this for another forty five minutes BECAUSE
i want to get this, contract get this power, card,
whatever where Talking.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Kong it's always just kind of rinse and.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Repeat it feels very much just like a good ambience
vibes type of. Game though of listen because the soundtrack's,
good AND i think my thoughts as far as the game.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Is pretty much the exact same WHERE i was.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
BEFORE i think IF i, OVERALL i would give it
like an like an, eight because it is just like
a fun. TIME i like the, stages it's.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
BEAUTIFUL i like the.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Score there was some fun surprises at the. End it's
nowhere near like IF i make A Nintendo top ten
or Even top, TWENTY i don't think it'd be in.
There BUT i could still SAY i had like tons
of fun with. It BUT i think that's another reason
why it took me so, long other than life. Stuff
WAS i would play, hour hour and a half and
then be Like i'm ready to switch it up or
do something else or just kind of, go, Okay i'm
ready for. Bed that game also just put me to

(56:19):
sleep many. Times and it's not a bad.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Thing it's. BAD i just feel like because there is
a repetitive nation emotion to.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
It and even then because at that point when we
talked about we did another side quest and you had gone,
FURTHER i think it beat at that, point and even
getting the other, animals like there's some fun ones in,
there but nothing that was a big change. UP i
think that my favorite's the, elephant just BECAUSE i love that. Trunk,
yeah The elephant's. Awesome so, again LIKE i had tons of.
FUN i think it's just a case of we're talking
About lui's. MANSION i think it's similar to how me

(56:46):
And taylor felt about, three where we had fun with,
it but we're a little let. Down that's WHERE i
was With Donkey, kong WHERE i think my over my
expectations kind of overhyped it a little bit for myself
because it had been so, Well but on the, WHOLE
i still had a fun time. It even the surprise
ring to talk about the end or you, know the back,
HALF i was surprised by that BECAUSE i think many
times said out they're gonna save that character for a little.

(57:06):
Bit SO i don't know if that was a good
thing or bad, thing BECAUSE i kind of thought that
was like a perfect setup for a, sequel, is, oh
we haven't done this guy, yet and, well now you've done,
him so you can always bring him.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Back but, yeah, overall and the same thing IS i enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
IT i did absolutely love, it BUT i probably would
still buy a, sequel to be, Honest, LIKE i enjoyed
it that, Much so that's why do.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
You enjoy enough to buy the thirty five dollars?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Deal? See do not enjoy enough to buy? That from
what they.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
SHOWED i remember it was that early console or The
tintendo when we watched a couple of months, Ago and,
YEAH i don't Like i'll spend a full probably out
for a full game ABSOLUTELY DLC u and THE dlc
that they, Showed, uh not so.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Much, No, yeah it's. FUNNY i had like my ORIGINAL
i wrote out a bunch of notes back when WHEN
i Played Donkey Honk bonanza and just left them on
my note. Cheaper when we finally got back to this
and one of the. THINGS i was gonna be, Like,
oh what are they gonna do FOR. Dlc and it's
funny that now since, then we've actually had A dlc
announced and come out that is, playable.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
And i've heard nothing about. It i've heard no, chatter
AND i haven't seen anything on a gaming podcast. LISTENING
i haven't seen anything. Online i'm not saying it's. BAD
i just feel like it just.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Felt like one of those classic cases of.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Just hold that, back you, know just hold that. Back
we don't need to put that in the base. Game it's, Like,
Okay i've heard it's.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Fine, yeah it's like good, enough you, know all that
kind of. Stuff do you think we'll get MORE dlc
for this? Game where are they kind of content with
just one like quick little POST dlc pack and then
move on to the next.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Thing, YEAH i don't.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Know it's weird because you were mentioning that About strikers
didn't get that. MUCH i think we all Thought Mario
kart by this point would have got a lot. More and,
yeah like even the Don com, BONANZA i thought that
was a layup of, oh absolutely they'll do some.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
More ONE dk.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Skin has to be, something especially in the, game like
you could have done all these animals as the skins
Of Mario kart right or even the multi Colored, Donk
like there's so much. OPPORTUNITY i know that's.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
A big but LIKE i Think Young pauline for, sure
seems like she'll definitely happen in. There and you know
K rule now that he's like back in the, limelight
like him throw him on a. CART i would love
to see. That and Like Diddy kong is still not
in uh marcoul Like Donkey kong is the only one
from that that realm that's actually playable in.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
There, yeah so it was it was a little, odd but,
Ah i'm gonna say, NO i don't think.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
So, Yeah i'm kind of feeling the same WAY i
think another in terms of like how much sales would it?
Generate obviously they had this one, here BUT i mean
based on how quickly this first one came, out like
after the game came, out it seems like one of
those things that they kind of just made even before
the game even, released, right and then they just kind
of split it off to sell it. Later but, like,
yeah like the switch to is still new, ish it's
still selling some for some, people it is still like

(59:38):
sold out in some places and they can't get their
hands on. ONE i think most people are able to
get one if they really want, one, though but it's still, like, okay,
well the amount of people who own a switch to
and Own bonanza and are gonna buy it is pretty.
Minimal LIKE i, think you, know some games later in
a console's life cycle maybe just more likely to GET.
Dlc SOMETIMES i think THAT i don't know If i'm
pulling that out of my, ass like MAYBE i should

(59:59):
go fact check, that but it feels like a thing
that can be kind of. TRUE i can buy, it but,
yeah even Like Mario kart eight was kind of weird
where it got THAT dlc for THE. Wu then like
years and years and years and years later we got
like all those. Courses oh yeah all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Too it felt like it was always getting like once
THE dlc started With Mario, kart it, was it was,
flowing it was going, fast.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
It, was but that was years. Afterwards SO i don't
know what they're gonna do for, World like maybe they're
just gonna come back in five years and DO dlc for,
That LIKE i really did set that D dk, thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
But could there's a bigger bass on. There feel that's
all the switch to and everything gives you another reason
to Buy Mario.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Kart, SO i don't think we're getting like Another nintendo
direct this. YEAR i think we're pretty well set, Up
like we just got that one For. Kirby kirby's coming
out in a few. Weeks you have The age of
whatever the fuck That, zelda you, Know musso games coming,
out you Have Metroid so, LIKE i don't think we're
getting another direct this, year and THAT'S i don't Think
Mario kart is one of those things you just drop On, twitter,
LIKE i think you want to have that in a
direct like they, do like The Luigi's mansion drops like

(01:00:56):
those kind of. Things, yeah the online they do On,
twitter BUT i don't think they want to do that. Here, So,
dravis what is uh top of? Mine what's your favorite
layer In Don?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Comananza my favorite LAYER i did really like because BECAUSE
i think there's an added. ELEMENT i can't remember what
the names. Are you also remember it is playing this
game without a map. OPTION i play it the whole
way through beat the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
GAME i impress.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
It that's gonna be a speed run category like map.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
PERCENT i will have to bust it out now for
going to do the other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Now BUT i think there was that world that WAS
i don't remember the, name but it was a lot
of lava and a lot of hot stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
AROUND i think some of the early ones were. Good
The Feast, layer like the Food Eat, Food, YEAH i think,
so because there's like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Instead of, lava it's like deep friar oil pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Much, yes that's the. One and there's some areas until
you get the elephant you can't really access and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Stuff SO i don't. KNOW i like that aesthetically because
it was it was the lava had like a gold
tinge to, it so you're kind.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Of map for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Sure and Like odyssey had a world kind of like
that as. Well so they like they like their food,
worlds AND i don't think we've ever really got that
for Dun, kung even though he's. Old that's WHY i
like so it feels very thematically.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Accurate that's WHY i liked it because everything, else like
the beach, world it's, like, OKAY i can get, that
like a watery, place, yeah a bit more. Tropical it's
again that we're h in THE dk classics, here you,
Know so but that one that probably somewhere a little
bit before uh Kink. Rule it's at The Groove layer
or something like, That like that's a more Y, yeah
it's me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Come back to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
It there's actually some postgame stuff, there like a couple
of extra requests to. Do so that was because the
first TIME i was there was, LIKE i like, this it's,
cool weird, vibe but it is kind of. Small and then,
yeah it was when you actually go back there and
there's a little bit more to, do that was that was.
Exciting But i'm glad you said that BECAUSE i Think
Feast layer is my favorite as. WELL i think it
is probably the individual biggest world and so that also.
Helps like it just that one felt like, forever even

(01:02:46):
for me to see all the different zones of. It
but super fun AND i love the sub layer for
The Feast layer was like The Deep friar layer where
you're like underneath the Deep frier. Machine it's like nasty
metal and like a little Deep frier oils like seeping
down from the. Roof LIKE i thought that was just
like a really Fun. Yeah how many, games especially, platformers
have like the inside of a deep fryer as like

(01:03:08):
a level, theme like that is so weird and. GREAT
i love.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
IT i was gonna say maybe the only place is
that maybe like toy soldiers back in the day and
the like that feels.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Like kind of, specific like maybe they're on the stove or.
Something but, YEAH i love that. ONE i also really
like The landfill, layer which is the one that's just
like entirely dirt and like you have to break like
literally everything to get through, it like there's just no
open space pretty much. WHATSOEVER i think that was one
like right before The Feast, Layer so really like that.
One the biggest disappointment for me though in the game

(01:03:40):
most disappointed layer has to Be Racing. World did you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Feel the, Same, YEAH i didn't like it didn't stick
with me that, much to be, Honest so, YEAH i
won't say missed most. DISAPPOINTING i don't THINK i had
a disappointing one per, se BECAUSE i feel LIKE i
could never gauge with the also because with other than,
that BUT i could never gauge from the start to
the finish the. World it wasn't like a classic video

(01:04:08):
game where, okay you're gonna, start let's say there's ten,
worlds right and it's get, bigger, bigger. Bigger they were
kind of all over the map as far as you'd
go to one super small and then very, big and
then medium size and very small. Again so that's why for,
ME i never, LIKE i don't think anything to, me
like the racing world didn't disappoint, me BECAUSE i think
there's some more fun things you could have done with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
It BUT i just didn't know what to expect each.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
TIME i gone to a, world because there's times where
late GAME i get somewhere and it's, like, oh you've
already passed this. Lay you're like WHEN i JUST i
got here like twenty minutes, ago, Right, So AND i
also didn't mind that because it kind of changed up
a little. Bit but that's where my expectations were kind
of out of whack and all over the. PLACE i
didn't know really what to expect, there SO i didn't
have the same disappointment that you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Did it sounds like so, YEAH i MEAN i.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Think you, know knowing from the trailers that we saw
Like diddy And, dixie at some, POINT i was like
very excited for that moment ye, like, ooh how were
they integrated into this? Game and then WHEN i got
there and it Was Racing, world and Like Diddy kong
is hosting A Diddy kong kind of racing, world like,
sublayer that is. Amazing that's such a fun little. Reference
and then the you do like one race and then you,

(01:05:10):
leave AND i was, like, oh that was really. Quick
AND i went back there and to get like one
hundred percent completion and it took me like a half
an hour or something. Like there was just very little
to do that there was almost nothing to, collect and
even like the racing, theme like could have been fun
to have all these different. STALLS i think of like
how great The miami map is In, hitman you, know
and it's, like, yeah you'd have so many fun different
zones within like a racing setting and like the behind

(01:05:31):
the scenes and all this kind of fun, stuff and
it feels like we didn't really get any of. That
AND i JUST i freaking hated the racing mechanic that
they had in, there where you're like Riding ramby and
you have to like not go through this annoying slow
sludge and then you have to like climb up on
this rainbow thing that never really felt good or seemed quite,
right and then like you do the, race you can
do it again for like a bonus banana or something like.

(01:05:53):
That but it's like, this it's just the exact. SAME
i was hoping you'd be, like, oh now we're gonna
put like eight racers on, here but it just kind
of felt very small and underwhelming for WHAT i thought
was gonna be a really, cool weird.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Theme, Yeah i'm not looking forward to the girls of
her get to that because they. Play they played a
little bit of. IT i don't think it to grab them.
YET i think that's a couple of times for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
It but do you ever try to co op with?

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Them? NO i never, did never got a, chance SO
i should at some. Point But i'm the next one
on the bat is going to Try Luigi's mansion and.
SEE i think when it might be, OKAY i don't
think logans will enough for, it but you never know
with kids and games and what can work better and.
Whatnot but that's still in the bucket list for the
don kom one because, yeah LIKE i, SAID i don't
Think i'm done with the. GAME i do want to move,
on AND i said Do Alan wake and other, stuff

(01:06:36):
so BUT i will dip my toes, back AND i
don't know If i'm ever gonna get to a point
where Ever hunter complete, it but, uh MAYBE i will
BECAUSE i feel like when That Don kong movie comes
out of other, stuff, like OH i got a perfect
game just to put on for a little bit and
have some.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Fun so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah and THEN i think at one point in the,
game you get to there's like a split path of
fork in the road and you can choose to go
to the ice world of The jungle, world and then you,
know and ACTUALLY i just went back to the other one.
AFTERWARDS i love both of. THOSE i, think you, know
every especially Don kong, game always has like an icy
world or a jungle. World BUT i really liked the
jungle one because it was like jungle, poison AND i
like that the ice one was like ice lava was

(01:07:11):
like the. Theme it was like a mixture of those two,
things which is like a fun kind of. Contrast so
that was another highlight for me as. Well and EVEN
i think one of my favorites was just The ingot
asle like the first big open space you get too
after you get through like the OR i guess it
was the lagoon because The Ingot isle's LIKE i think
the tutorial zone and then you go to The lagoon.
ONE i JUST i really like the layered ness to that.

(01:07:32):
One so those are definitely some of the highlights for.
Me but, YEAH i guess getting to some of the endgame.
Stuff so like when you get to later in the.
Game you, know throughout the, Game voidcong is set ups
like the Big Head hauncho, villain but you're mostly FIGHTING
i think per Names poppy and Then Grumpy. Kong, yeah
and then eventually you dispatch them you get to Fight Void.

(01:07:53):
Kong but then there is the fake out With king K.
Rule he comes. In you're going through this. Area it
had like a bunch of Like king K rule like
bellies AND i was, like oh my, god those Are
king K role, bellies those those big golden bellies with
the big belly buttons stick it. Out i'm, like this
looks so much like K. Rule and then he finally pops,
up which is. Amazing you go through like this one
initial boss fight and then there's like fake out, credits

(01:08:14):
WHICH i think the original Don Kown country had too
of like Kk, rules like the developer or, whatever and
like it has all his Like kremlins are like the
developers and things like, that and then you go through
and you have like the last sequence where you go
To New Donk. City but, YEAH i think that for
me as much as like, middling as middling as some
of the game, WAS i think it had like really
high highs and like some lower lowers are a lot

(01:08:34):
of mediocre stuff in. It that, finale like that last
like hour a, half two hours whatever it, was was
like really great and just like the variety of, IT
i thought was super fun and everything with K rule
Because i'm just such a K rule, fan so glad
to get him back in a. Game AND i love
that whole end. SEQUENCE i guess i'd have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
To that's the funny, thing right BECAUSE i thought about,
that and you have the ending sequence great in the boss.
Battle my only kind of critique about the ending, BATTLES
i thought they were gonna make it in a way
where you kind of almost had to use use all
the different animal, structures AND i think they did that
like a little, bit but they didn't go full like to,
me that's WHAT i would have done AS i. Too, yes,

(01:09:11):
yeah because you just want to get go and shoot
stuff and then you can it Was. Grilla it Was
gorilla And, elephant because if you could pop Off stun
and Then, gorilla you're just doing a bunch of. Damage
but that's where that's only my one notice is very, Cool,
uh K roll out a very cool, aesthetic looking like
godly and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Whatnot but would have would have made it, That, kay
you have to use every single thing you've learned here
in a different.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Way maybe it could have been annoy and. Challenging BUT
i feel like that's WHAT i thought was gonna, happen
and it, Didn't SO i was. Surprised but uh, YEAH i, Thought,
KAY i didn't Think kroll would never be in. THERE
i Thought i'd be. Eluded even when we see him
the first, TIME i, Thought, okay you're gonna kind of
branch off and that's maybe gonna set up stuff down the.
Line AND i, thought, okay, well this whole time saying you,

(01:09:51):
know you might See diddy And daisy and they show
them off and a little bit that's, fine sets them
up for someone, else and saying THE k, RULE i, thought,
oh they might. Wait but at the same TIME i can't.
Remember like with Tropical, freezes he like the main last boss.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
In that, GAME i, think so, NO i, KNOW i
think his last game was sixty four like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
That, Yeah so that's why for me at, FIRST i
was always, like, oh well they got the same BECAUSE
i JUST i think it's because Of. SMASH i think
it's also because of how much you talk about, him
but because that's WHAT i also grew with sixty, Four,
Right so in my, mind it's, just, oh it's Kay,
rule that's the bad. Guy so it's almost like The
Batman joker thing of, like, oh you could like have
K rule sit this one. Out but then WHEN i
thought about, IT i was, like, OH i guess you,

(01:10:29):
shouldn't because if they're trying to rebrand him in a
way and get more people affiliated With Donkey kong that
haven't been in, years it's like you kind of do
gotta re establish his arch enemy as well, Too, Right
so at FIRST i was surprised that he ended up
becoming the main. ONE i, went, oh how DID i
feel about? That but then once they sat upon, it
upon it and it was just. Fun it was fun
to do the fighting and everything like. That but and
for the, story the fake out credits were. Great i'm

(01:10:49):
always a sucker for. That you talk about Don, KIN
i don't remember, that one of my. Favorites they did that,
again talk About Batman joker when we played that with
The Arkham asylum. Game they did that there as, Well
so always a fun. Time but uh, yeah so uh
it was a very nice. Surprise at, FIRST i was
confused because, that, oh they're gonna save this but you, know,
sorry Bring kate roll back or do other, things and uh,
yeah so it was nice to see him in all

(01:11:12):
h also be able to smash but in this grand
SCALE hd boss battles taking the main frame and kind
of a good little uh fake out BECAUSE I i
didn't think K role was gonna be the main battie right.
Now so because even this Dunk on family they are,
around but they. Weren't they were in as much AS
i thought they were gonna be in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
It so, yeah, no they definitely saved it for like
really right near the end of the, game which is. Funny,
YEAH i can't remember trying to remember like when you
find when you finally get to the wrestling match with
him and he has like that transformed. Version oh what
the do you remember what his name? Was in that
like they give him like a new name it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Was, oh, NO i can't remember what it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Was, No i'll have to look that up because it.
Was it was a really it was a really Fun
it had a very like dark souls vibe to the
name of just like The, reborn Like king Of vile or.
SOMETHING i forget it was something like, that but, yeah
that was really fun when that when that popped, in UH,
I i, YEAH i love. That you, know the final
boss fight of Don kalks sixty four is like a

(01:12:07):
wrestling ring match where you kind of have one sequence
with each of the playable characters in, there and SO
i like that we're kind of back in a wrestling
match for this final, sequence which is kind of a good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, Yeah and, yeah even like The New Donk city
part of, It Like I'm i'm kind of of two
minds of that WHERE i because the Feast layer, happens
and then you, have as you, mentioned like a couple
pretty small layers after that when you're leading up to,
uh like the k rules. Stuff AND i just felt
like the game needed like one more big zone because
there were just so many like middle size or smaller,

(01:12:38):
ones and SO i was hoping that we'd maybe get
just one more and when we find when we get
introduced To New Donk, City i'm, like, oh hell, yeah
bringing back. This yes it's the location From, odyssey but
bring that. Back having me go through Like King kong,
style like through This New york type, setting smashing stuff
that's gonna be super fun is like the fun Big
Last Final world and you go into the boss, fight
and the fact that it was, like oh, no there's
actually sludge everywhere and let's it's more of like a

(01:13:00):
platform sequence was a bit of a, disappointment and like
if anything that feels like it could be grounds for
like a DECENT dlc if they want to do one
more like A New Donk city.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Or even a. Sequel you could pick up there right
or someone destroying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
It you. Know the only weird part about picking up
there is that this kind of almost seemingly like connects
like right Into odyssey in a way and like sets
you up With New Donksy. Crew it might feels like
more of a prequel in that. Way SO i don't
know if they would do that with A dlc or a,
sequel but they definitely. Could but even like little details
like when you're In New Donk city there's like posters
For Lanky kong and like the rest of THE dk,

(01:13:35):
crew so little little homolages showed outs to the sixty
four crew that were obviously very nostalgic For but that
sequence was really. FUN i JUST i, just you, know
MAYBE i was being a bit, greedy AND i THINK
i was also getting a little bit salty when they
had THAT dlc come out so soon after that was pretty,
expensive AND i was, Like, okay, nah this probably should
have just been in the. Game this feels like it
should have been like the last epilogue kind of, level

(01:13:56):
the one they had in, there and like that extra
mode could have just been in there as. Well but
did you. GO i guess you haven't done this, yet
BUT i would recommend there's THESE i think they're called,
rehearsals AND i think to activate them you go back
to just all the different like the Big gorilla, guy
you go to the ostrich, guy and you can do
like a post game additional challenge, thing and it is

(01:14:18):
like the hardest content in the, game WHICH i think
the game lacked at, times was like actual difficult stuff
at like the final but actually was was a little
bit trickery in that final sequence.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Around a lot of stuffy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Definitely but, yeah the way you were Asking, rot thank,
YOU i knew something like, that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Which is a perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
NAME i love. That and, MAN i hope BECAUSE i
feel like he definitely will be in the Next smash
game as, well bring him back. Again, REALLY i THINK
i Think kate will be back in the next. Match,
yeah we.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Gotta do The smash. GUYS i think that's a hot.
TAKE i feel like BECAUSE i feel LIKE i DON'T
i guess, again like we said all the times that
they do that, smash don't you they go back to
basics and maybe keep it like a smaller, roster do
some different stuff that, Way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Carle like relevant again now that he's been like this
new that's a good. Point he could have some fresh
moves that, stuff and like DONK i.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Would just have to know that roster, size you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Know but but, again, yeah if you're trying to Revitalize Donkey,
kong then yeah you should be in. There SO i
can't say he's, assuring but you've maybe sold me a
bit more now where at first it's LIKE i don't, know,
like are you gonna put a spot on when it's not,
Ultimate like let's say they go back to, bones, like,
oh we're only doing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Thirty it's Like carole's don't get a. Slot then you,
know fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
If they go back to, thirty that would be kind of.
CRAZY i would love it just to see fifty five
characters from ALL.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
I would love to see, it just to see it
and get a little. Crazy you, know that's for another.
Time but, yeah, yeah you made some point SO i
could see him in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
There, yeah, yeah good to see him. Back but, yeah
definitely if you are going back at some. Point i've
been doing those rehearsals and then you go back to
the disco, layer AND i think it's pretty, obvious like
when you can pick, up there's like a new thing
to do. There so that's some fun. Stuff there wasn't
really much else post content stuff like you, know you
can go back and click all. Bananas but for, ME
i feel Like i'd done most of the fun THINGS

(01:16:01):
i wanted to. Do i'd see most of the layers
at that, point so there wasn't too much more to.
DO i definitely did not get one hundred percent, completion.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
AND i was, like there's fun stuff to, buy like
LIKE i want to buy this or do that it's
pretty you. Know but, again AS i said before in
the first, review And i'll say again, HERE i imagine that's.
Why and hopefully when the girls get a little, older
they'll still like it or get back into. It but
IF i was a kid that had summer breaks and,
whatnot then that'd be, Great, like, Yeah i'm gonna get
every BANAN i, can, Right so at least if you
love the, game there is lots of kind of repetitive

(01:16:28):
stuff to. Do but if you like doing that stuff
and destroying, stuff it's there for, you, Right so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Definitely and Then i'd save this question From clay who
asked us way back when we did the original, episode
which is where does it rank for you in terms
OF dk games at? Large so now you've beat the,
game where does this rank for? You and you're in
Your Donkey kong.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Okay so that's a good. Question SO i feel, like
WOULD I i would not include the decon, racing right
or WOULD?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I that's up to. You it's your, ranking so for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
My, games BECAUSE i feel LIKE i, remember.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
We should give at least two version of the, list
maybe with and Without Diddy Kong, racing BECAUSE.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
I won't because they're they're one game that's pretty much
the exact. Same because the problem is the Older Donkey
kong games other than the, ORIGINAL i would have to
replay all the rest of those just kind of blend.
Together so to, me it's the very first original. One
it's sixty, Four It's Tropical, Freeze it's, this and THEN
i feel like it could probably Be Daycon. Race i'm

(01:17:23):
trying to think there's anything Else i'm, Missing Like i'm
not going to count The Drumming, game The Drumming games
last than if we're counting, it WHICH i did play
at some, point BUT i never owned, It so like
and same, Thing i'd have to go back and even
replay that original one to see how MUCH i, enjoyed
BECAUSE i that one has a lot of. Nostalgia that's
one THAT i played with my dad a lot back
in the, day was That, Mario SO i THINK i,

(01:17:43):
would just for the nostalgia's, sake put that number.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Two sixty four has to be in the first and same.
THING i want to play that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
TOO i cannot wait till the day they get that
on The switch store and we can play that and
then either we're still in love with, it or it's, like,
oh you, know playing it at this stage and this
is you, know it's maybe maybe i'd glorified it a little, bit,
right because we've all played.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
IT i want to say. Recently it was probably ten
years ago, NOW i guess it was like EARLY gv.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Days, yes, yeah and at that POINT i, did but
just an ACTUAL a TO b start to finish play
the whole. Game you, know it doesn't get the same point.
Too but the good thing that game has for IS
i think with the multiple, characters that's where the repetitiveness goes, away,
right BECAUSE i bet the actual in game stuff is pretty,
basic and it's like this game where you're doing a
lot of stuff over and. Over but because you have

(01:18:28):
options out, there So i'd say sixty Four Original Donkey,
Kong i'll Put, Bonanza i'll Put Dicon, racing and Then
i'll Put Tropical, freeze because, YEAH i enjoyed it, enough
BUT i JUST i.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
DIDN'T i don't, know it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Didn't it didn't hit the way that even this one
at least did hit for me give me a sense of.
Wonder So i'd have to look and see if there's,
More BUT i think that would be my ranking and same.
Thing maybe IF i Played Donkey Kong country AND i was,
like you know, what THERE'S, X y AND, z why
this is, age Maybe bonanza could edge. It but as right,
now sixty FOUR i have to kind of replay that.
Again but again that also has a bunch Of nostallasia,

(01:19:03):
there so but still all all good, games like Even
freeze was a fun, time you, know for the Ones i've,
played So i've probably avoided some really bad Doun kong.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Games so, yeah, YEAH i think for, me sixty four
is the number one spot for. Sure and THEN i
THINK i would Put bonanza at number two Because i'm
not really a big fan of The country. Games i've
played all of them except For Tropical, freeze not like
world credits on all of, them But I've i've played you,
know a good chunk of at least all of, them
and just not really my preferred like TWO d platform or.

(01:19:33):
Series and THEN i haven't really played any of the
weird spin offs if you if you Include mariover's Don,
kong WHICH i wouldn't because Don kong you don't really
plays in that, game he's like the villain of. It,
yeah that might that would probably eke Out, bonanza BUT
i wouldn't really count that for my, ranking SO i think. It,
yeah for, me it'd be sixty four Into bonanza and
THEN i don't know WHAT i would put. Next i'm

(01:19:55):
kind of fairly equally mid on like all of the country,
games SO i don't. KNOW I Tropical freeze is definitely
a WHEN i really want to get. To but even,
still like on the Switch switch Switch, to it's like extremely.
Expensive they never really price drop, it so it's just
very pricey, game so not really worth it for me
When i'm not really a big fan of the rest
of the games in the. Series, yeah kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Crazy that's A wee game and it's STILL i know
it could switch, to but just crazy that they just
love putting those big price Take, yeah was was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
That a week? GAME i thought there was Wasn't wasn't
it that was on The.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Wii, No Tropical freeze is A wee. Game it's a
game OR.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Sorr, yeah, sorry, yeah we you. Game but still it's
crazy to me that it's A weu game and where
that was how long? Ago it's still almost a full
price game for a switch. To, yes, yes, yes Bon
bonanza it Is, bonanza.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Any anything else on this, Game, travis Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
No LIKE i, SAID i enjoyed my time fit a little,
underwhelmed but still a fun. GAME i am very excited,
though to have each console has.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
That this was not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
That i'm hopefully you, know in the next three to five,
years AND i don't Think Metro it's gonna be that for.
Me there is That oh that's the GAME i associated
with The switch. TOO i thought right of the gate
that would be Don Kon and it's kind of funny
THAT i kind of got Snake bit that. Way Luigi
mansion three like Other Marvel alliance that was The nintendo
GAME i needed WHEN i got like you know, what you,
know very good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
But didn't hit the. Heights same thing with The.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Hiss So i'm kind of at a bad streak of
that First nintendo brand, game, like, oh you've been waiting
so long for this and that is just the instance of,
yeah you just work yourself up. Sometimes but nonetheless good.
Game excited to see what this company does more like
this developer does. More excited to see another THREE D
mario at some, point AND i hope there is. MORE
i hope he Because i'd love to see k what

(01:21:36):
do you do for a? SEQUEL i hope it's not
literally just let's just create a bunch of new locations
and it just destruction all. OVER i think that's a good.
Base and then let's see what else knew you could.
Do so maybe more funky boss, battles WHICH i think
had a good. Time even if you got some more
characters in, there that could be fun. Too SO i
hope this could lead to that situation where you, know
the first one's a good to great, game but then

(01:21:57):
you play a second where, like, okay this now they're really.
Cooking they got all the ingredients together and they create
a Great Donkey kong. Stew So i'll be excited one
day if we're Watching game Of wars and The tendo
direct and The bonanza logo and the two pops, Up
i'll be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Excited So i'll take that as a good thing for the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Game so, yeah, NO i would as. Well AND i,
yeah there's as you just kind of laid, out there's
so many directions they could take, that so that could
be a fun a fun thing if they decided to
go down that. Route but, yes, finally good to close the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Chapter sorry, Everybody, Yeah, no it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Good to find it close the chapter on this. One,
yeah it's only been like three. Months it's not that.
Bad it's not like it's like years later that we're
finding the. Spoiler the discussion of, This, travis thank you
for joining, Me thank you everyone for. Listening we'll be
back next week as. Usual have a good. One bye.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Bye

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