Chris Rainsforth is back on Get Out of Wrap!
In this wide-ranging chat, Martin and Chris explore:
The Forum’s Raising Standards conference and collaborative problem-solving
Why their awards programme is focused on stories and shared learning
The evolution of training – and whether roleplays still have value in 2025
The challenge of Learning & Development keeping pace with technology and remote work
The shift towards wellbeing, empathy, and people-focused leadership
Reflections on industry progress since the mid-90s – and where we still need to improve
Chris also shares personal insights on mental health, community support, and the importance of looking out for each other. As always, it’s candid, thoughtful, and full of laughs.
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