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September 16, 2025 58 mins
Join Hollywood, on 99.1 FM KLBP Long Beach, CA Monday nights at 9pm, in his scavenger hunt to unearth GenX Rock Hidden Treasures from Classic Rock and Metal artists, as well as newer bands emulating that hard and heavy 70s, 80s and 90s sound. This show features a 1 hour interview with Daniel Bukszpan, author of the new book, “Iron Maiden at 50”, along with selected Iron Maiden deep cuts. A MUST LISTEN for all Maiden fans. UP THE IRONS!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is ninety nine point one FM KOBP broadcasting in
the heart of beautiful Long Beach, California, and you're listening
to gen X Rock Hidden Treasures with DJ Hollywood. My
name is Hollywood and I am your host and tour
guide in our rock and scavenger hunt. It's time to
dig in.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't know who you are, but what I do
have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I've
acquired her for a very long career. I'm a musical genius.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
A rock and roll radio station.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Right.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
If we hear some tunes, it rocks, man, that's right.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
What's going on? Scavengers.

Speaker 7 (00:50):
My name is Hollywood, and thank you for joining me
in our scavenger hunt to unearth gen x rock hidden
treasures from classic rock and metal artists as well as
new bands emulating that hard and heavy seventies, eighties and
nineties sound. And if you live in the Long Beach,
California area, you could tune your radio dial Monday nights
at nine pm Pacific to ninety nine point one FM KLBP,

(01:13):
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It's okay.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
You gotta check out all past shows on my website
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on a podcast platform available in your country. So today
on gen X Rock Hidden Treasures with DJ Hollywood on

(01:55):
ninety nine point one FM KLBP, we have a very
special guest author who has written and put together a
book about a band that means so much, not only
to myself, but also to all of you listeners out there,
to gen X Rock Hitting Treasures as well as millions
of fans around the globe. And I'm talking about Iron Maiden.

(02:24):
And today we'll be speaking with Daniel Buckspan, the author
of a new book called Iron Maiden at fifty. So
just a little bit of background on for Daniel. Daniel
Buckspan has been a freelance writer for over twenty five years.
He's written for such publications as Fortune, the NBC and more.
And he is the author of the Encyclopedia of Heavy Metal,

(02:46):
the Encyclopedia of New Way Woodstock, fifty Years of Piece
of Music, Ozzie at seventy five, and Rush at fifty.
So let's welcome to gen X Rock Hidden Treasures, Daniel
Bucks Band.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Hey, thanks for I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
All right, So let's just get right into it. Why
don't you give the audience an overview of your new book,
Iron Maiden at fifty.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, it, you know, tracks the entire history of this
classic band that we all love and we'll never get
tired of, no matter how many times we listen to
their songs, from basically Steve Harris's founding of the band
on Christmas Day in nineteen seventy five to the present.
And it discovers in fifty segments, really their whole history

(03:34):
and albums and you know things, you know, all the
everything I tried to hit, everything, Ed Force one is profiled,
the creation of Eddie, the mascot, all of it, you
name it, it's there.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
In fact, I have the new book Iron Maiden at
fifty right in front of me now, and it's it's
a big, bold, beautiful hardcover book. Once you talk about
the graph design and the layout of the book, here
your your ideas regarding it, the ideas of maybe you
have a team I don't know behind you that also
helps with that quarto.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
My publisher is one hundred percent responsible and deserving of
all credit for every visual element in the book, the design,
the layout, the photo editing, all of it. They found
all of that. I would love to take credit for it.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
They did everything. And the previous books that i've I've
done with them Russia at fifty and Aussi at seventy five.
The visual presentation has been incredible every single time, and
I am just the lucky person who gets to write
the text for you know what's really, you know, kind
of a love letter to these bands and to these artists.

(04:49):
And one of the highest compliments that I ever got
was that it's these books seem like they're fan by
a fan four fans, and that's really, you know, how
I like to look at it, and that's really what
I try to accomplish with these things.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
Okay, So that's awesome. So you're you're the word guy
and put the word all together. So that's that's really cool.
So I do have to ask you here, are you
an actual fan of the band Iron Maiden, And if so,
when did you become a fan?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, they first got on my radar in the early
eighties thanks to MTV. Uh, but you know when it
became actual like hardcore, I am. I am now a
fan late eighties, because it wasn't really until I got
to college that I really got into metal. I liked it,
I was aware of it, but it wasn't until then

(05:41):
that I, you know, I did my due diligence and
all that sort of thing and really started listening to
metal almost exclusively. As far as being a fan, it's
hard for me to say the exact moment when it happened. Uh,
but you know I've been to see them multiple times.
I brought my ten year old son to see them

(06:01):
in twenty seventeen. I feel strongly about these guys. Let's
put it.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
That's cool. Yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Yes, So looks like and we talked a little bit
prior to this. We're both right in the same age bracket.
There were older gen xers from from the sixties and so,
you know, you talked about when you kind of became
introduced to them. I was also introduced to them at
that time. It was actually in nineteen eighty one and

(06:30):
I was thirteen years old and my brother he bought
me as a gift, my very first boombox. And with that,
since I never had a cassette player before, now, I
was actually able to go out and buy cassettes because
I only had vinyl, you know, up until that time.
And so I went out to the music store and

(06:51):
I bought two cassettes. I bought Ozzie's Blizzard of Oz
and I bought Iron Maiden Killers. As soon as I
heard Killers, I was I was hooked right away immediately,
and I think it was like the week after I
went back and I bought the debut album. And so
my introduction to Maiden is only with Paul Diano. Never

(07:15):
heard of Bruce Dickinson at that time. Okay, so that
was that was my introduction to Maiden. So we're we're
kind of right around there in the same era era.
But let's get right into into the book here. I
want to talk about. The first highlight in the book
that shocked me is the origin of the medieval torture

(07:36):
device called the Iron Maiden. Talk about that. Shock me,
shock us.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
It never existed?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Oh what are you doing to me?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Work? It was, Yeah, that was I was a long
time getting over that because you know, first of all,
I when I thought it was a real thing, I
was like, wow, that's brilliant. Just that's complete sadism. Yeah,
into this ridiculous extreme. You know, I would I would
convert also if they put me in that thing.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I found out it did not exist. It was like
finding out there was no Santa Claus, you know, or
no Easter Bunny or something like that. And I was
so saddened and so hurt that, you know, I'd been
lied to all these years, and you know, I thought
that was a real thing.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
And I even thought, I mean, come on, Bill and
Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
It was in the movie. They talked about it, so
I had to be true.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It must be true exactly in the great historical documentary
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
There it is right right, Okay, So let's do this. Obviously,
this is a music show right here on gen X
Rock Hidden Treasures. We're talking to author Daniel Buckspan with
his new book Iron Maiden at fifty. I asked for
you to select a few deep cuts from the Iron
Maiden catalog. What's the first deep cut you'd like me
to play? From the first to Paul Deanna albums, what's

(09:00):
the first one you'd like to for me to play?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, the first one actually appears on your first Iron
Maiden purchase cassette, Purgatory on side two on Killers. I
love that song. I love it, I love it, I
love it, and it drives me nuts the second it
starts playing. And I've probably listened to it a thousand
times in my life. And if you put it on
right now, I'll start like jumping around and going crazy.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
All right, So prepared to jump around like crazy? Here
we go.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Here's Purgatory from Iron Maiden on gen X Rock Hidden
Treasures on ninety nine point one f M KLBP.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
What a couple, mom, d I know I can't think
or try to speak my soul. It's me. I just
so no, try to full class shovels over cut, so
cut you down my hair?

Speaker 8 (10:12):
How do you not that something the side?

Speaker 9 (10:22):
Place another smile on face the same hand from the
other side.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
To have the feeling that.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
A sub.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
Tell you take away say say take me away. It's
something away, take me away, give me away. So we

(11:32):
have a major dream said I never see.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
She can turn your doors.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
Trap the mom by more than I chopping?

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Why chant to be my soul wasn't?

Speaker 11 (11:49):
Man?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I just don't know.

Speaker 9 (11:50):
Don't judge a fumble bath just shuto.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Song cat so cutting on my head. Do not this.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
Say you got the side.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Sad.

Speaker 12 (12:26):
It's all right.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
You're listening to gen X Rock Hidden Treasures with DJ
Hollywood on ninety nine point one f M KLBP, Long Beach, California.
And that was a song called Purgatory by Iron Maid
to take on off their second album Killers from nineteen
eighty one. That was Daniel Bucks Band's first selection of
a deep cut from Maiden and man, that's a glorious song.
Every single song on that album from beginning to end

(13:16):
is it is awesome.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
In fact, that song itself Purgatory. I have a story
about this, a personal story that happened to me in
high school.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
So check this out.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
I got caught smoking pot in high school outside behind
the auditorium in the woods, and I was brought to
the principal's office, and obviously the principal. You know, they
contacted my parents. My parents had to pick me up.
They were all upset and everything. So they thought, Actually,
I think it was more my mother's thought. My mom thought, Okay,

(13:53):
why don't we call the local priest over to our
home and have him talk to.

Speaker 13 (13:59):
Our so.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Exercise the demon exactly exactly.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
So I'm like, oh God, So I saw the priest
drive up into our driveway and I'm like, what shirt
am I gonna put on?

Speaker 6 (14:11):
What's your And I knew exactly what shirt I was
gonna put on.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
And on page thirty three of your book, you have
a picture of the purgatory image where it's like half
picture of Eddie and half picture of the devil. Yeah,
and I had that shirt at that time, and I
decided to put that shirt on, and I walked down
the stairs and I just I stood in front of
the priest.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
I'm like, hey, their father, ye.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
Talk to me like you said to exercise the demons
of Why are you you know smoking that that that
demon weed?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know? I hope you did like fifteen graphics bond rips,
like right before he showed up, so you could be
in a good state of mind for you know or
what he was about to lay.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
On you exactly exactly, So so anyway, that album is
near and dear to my heart. In fact, on my show,
I don't play instrumentals a lot, but there's one instrumental.
I mean, there's a couple instrumentals on Killers, but the
one that I'm gonna play right now is a song

(15:16):
that is mentioned in your book in section nine on
page thirty. Let me just read that little section first,
and it says this on page three. You're gonna hear
me turning pages, it says Genghis Khan. The second instrumental
starts with a minute of music at a normal pace,
then completely pulls the rugout from under you and launches

(15:38):
into a high speed battery that's nothing less than a
sustained beating.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
With barbed wire on your bare back.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Other bands would come along in the ensuing years to
create heavier, faster, and more abrasive music, but in nineteen
eighty one, the fast section of Genghis Khan didn't have
a lot of competition in that department. They had cornered
the market. What an awesome production to a great song,
So here we go. This is Genghis Khan from Killers,
Genic Rock, Hidden Treasures. You're listening to gen X Rock

(19:08):
that's hard and heavy every Monday night on ninety nine
point one FM KLBP. And that was a song called
Genghis Khan by Iron Maid and taken off of Killers
from nineteen eighty one. And I think right now would
be a good time to get into the section about
Eddie the head. Why don't you talk a little bit
about what you wrote in your book regarding the the

(19:30):
how Eddie started the mascot.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, you know, Eddie started because they wanted to have
like some like you know, kind of a stage show.
But they were very limited in what they could do
because they were still playing small clubs. But you know,
they they tried their hardest anyway, and you know, so
behind them is you know, the Iron Maiden logo as
designed by the brilliant Steve Harris, who was a draftsman,

(19:55):
so he you know, called upon that to design the
logo and they were we need some kind of a
mascot and it ended up that the guy who does
their lights, a friend of his, built this like paper
mache face that would vomit blood onto the back of
drummer Paul Sampson, and that was the first Eddie. That's

(20:18):
how you know, it was very like high school talent
show level stuff. But you know, eventually, as the stages
got bigger and there was money, you know, that sort
of thing, it got you know, it eventually became what
we're used to. But at the beginning, it was it
was just I don't know, put a monster, if it's
a bit blood, I don't know, you know, but you know,

(20:40):
here we are fifty years later, and that's still the mascot,
and you know, and that's still the logo. And I
can't you know, these guys were like in their late teens,
early twenties when they started, and I can't imagine that
any of those decisions, like the logo or what the
mascot looks like were decisions that they made like this, Okay,

(21:02):
we're good with the logo and mascot now for the
next fifty years. I don't think it was that, you know,
but they had good instincts and it served well, and
they had good visual sense and it just kind of
worked out and happened to be timeless.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Yeah, exactly, And and I think it was it really
took it to the next level when they found Derek Riggs,
and he just was able to once they found one
of his. In your book, you wrote about how they
found some drawings of his and they're like, that's the
one and they just wanted him to make, you know,
extend the hair a little bit, make it a little

(21:38):
bit longer. But it was just this creature, this monster skeleton,
whatever it was. And right there from the very first album,
the debut album, where it's kind of almost like punky hair,
it's kind of sticking up a little bit, like a
mohawk kind of yeah, and then from there it just
evolved and I love that. And then on page thirty
nine of your book you wrote this it says Eddie's

(22:00):
image and likeness were exceptionally effective at repelling anyone who
was not into the band, while at the same time
helping fans find one another and connect. I have a story, Okay,
So my story is this. I was on vacation last
year in the Caribbean and went to Castingral Islands, went

(22:24):
to Saint Thomas, Saint John, ended up in Puerto Rico
and so here I am. I'm in Puerto Rico. My
wife and I we stop at just a local corner,
just a very small package, grocery store whatever, and I
see a guy walking right towards the door, and he
had an Iron maidensure of the Trooper and right away

(22:46):
I walk up to the guy and I'm like, hey, dude,
you learned the Maiden.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
He goes yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
He says, oh, man, I love Maid, and I've loved
him for a long time. The very first show I
saw was the World Slavery Tour back in nineteen eighty four,
and then he said, oh, that's cool. That was actually
my first show too, and that's how it started.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
That whole vacation, we found out that he was actually
staying at the same resort that we were staying at,
at Margaritaville in Puerto Rico, and we kept seeing each
other around the resort, in the pool, at the bar,
at different areas. Even when we left, we saw each
other at the airport, and finally I got his information
told him about, you know, the radio show here, and

(23:28):
we've kept in touch, so I know he's listening out there.

Speaker 14 (23:31):
His name is Ron.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
I call him affectionately the Iron Maiden Dude. So he's Ron,
the Iron Maiden Dude Stoness and I love the fact
that you know we connected over over Iron Maiden halfway
across the world.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
You know you sniffed each other out and Eddie helped you.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Now, another thing that has been that is consistent is
that there are even comedians that talk about Iron Maiden.
One specifically Jim Brewer. So Jim Brewer, he used to
be a member of the Saturday Night Live cast and
he does a comedy clip he does he talks about
metal because he's like an eighties metal guy. But he

(24:13):
has one clip that he talks about saying that eighties
metal is wiggles for adults, and he talks about Iron
Maid in this clip. So I'm actually gonna play this
clip right now. Enjoy Jim Brewer with Eighties metal is
wiggles for adults.

Speaker 15 (24:28):
Eighties metal is the wiggles. But it's for adults. That's
all it is.

Speaker 12 (24:33):
It's all. It's great.

Speaker 15 (24:34):
Here, I'll prove it to you. Who's in the Iron
Maiden anywhere in Iron Maiden? Okay, fine, now, yes, you're
in Iron Man. You love the music, Yeah, I get it. Well,
let's be honest. When you go see Iron Maiden live,
what do you really hoping shows up at that concert.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Eddie.

Speaker 15 (25:01):
For those of you going, what are they talking about?
Eddie is a mascot. It's just a big skeleton.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
What is it.

Speaker 15 (25:10):
I don't know, but you'll stand there for an hour,
I like this song, and then all of a sudden.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
And then a grown dog Eddie just came out. You
missing it, bro, You miss your bro. Let me get
an Eddie's shirt to Eddie shirt.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
So wiggles.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Oh my god, it's it's so true.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, Jim, he's like he's talking about you know
how you know, everyone goes wild when Eddie comes on stage.
You know, yeah, we love the music and everything, but
Eddie comes on stage where like we're like little kids
freaking out and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Actually, when I brought my ten year old to see
them in twenty seventeen, it was when Eddie came out.
Was my son's favorite part of the show. And they
even performed a live you know, human sacrifice on stage
where you know, this big like flayed Eddie because it
was the Book of Souls and all the artwork for
that was you know, like Inca Mayan skinned people basically,

(26:26):
and Eddie comes marching out. He's like fifteen feet tall, No,
skin performs a human sacrifice on Bruce pulls out of
his heart and that was my son's favorite part of the.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Entire Oh my god, how awesome is that? I mean?

Speaker 7 (26:41):
And you see that a lot in our generation, a
lot of those of us who did grow up in
the eighties with all these different bands, hard rock and
metal bands, are now taking their kids and have been
taking their kids to these shows. And there's this I
don't want to say resurgence, but at some point, I
guess you have to kind of call it that because
there is a younger section of generation like gen Z

(27:04):
and even you know millennials, later millennials that are into
you know, eighties metal, and so that's awesome to see.
So here we are in your book, Iron Maiden at
fifty and obviously there was a time that Paul Diano
had to leave the band. They got a new singer.
It ended up being Bruce Dickinson formally of Samson. And

(27:27):
now we start the glory years, the glorious years of
Bruce Dickinson in the eighties, starting with Number of the Beast,
and you have Peace of Mind, Power Slave. Somewhere in time,
the Seventh Son or the Seventh Son and so I'm
gonna go ahead, and since you didn't choose necessarily a
deep cut from the eighties Dickinson years, although you could have,

(27:49):
I'm gonna go ahead and play one right now. So
the song that I selected is not a song that's
on a standard studio album, but it's actually one of
my all time favorite Iron Maiden songs. And it was
a B side to the Trooper from the Piece of
Mind album from nineteen eighty three, and it was a

(28:11):
song called Cross Eyed Mary. So here you guys, go
Cross Eyed Mary from Iron Maiden on GenEx Rock Hidden Treasures,
the best hard rock metal show on the planet, showing the.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Poor Man of a mad Thing, SI mehd.

Speaker 16 (29:21):
's man and he said, I'm going stare the tender
from a Love of Babes.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Now let's be con take it from the Mony.

Speaker 16 (29:32):
Man crop up, don't talk in she sads Conchas, but
she always praying she.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Fell and explains a turning has a turn trap to
shopping in.

Speaker 16 (29:56):
The playground and knock there on the top of us.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Would I make it with the lighting one? Maybe her attention?
It's wrong?

Speaker 16 (30:08):
What's this from rocks.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Stopping Nothing? I can't play until going I stop.

Speaker 17 (30:29):
The the.

Speaker 16 (30:56):
Shopping in the thing that nest of picks from the top.
The mother won't make it, we say, and they were,
shall this n my clow whistle?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
The roping as close up goes down again?

Speaker 16 (31:19):
She said, dos whatsays?

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Playing for it?

Speaker 11 (31:24):
She don.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Expence.

Speaker 13 (31:29):
I'm a dad.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Jumping clams.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
My name is Hollywood, and you're listening to gen X
Rocketting Treasures on ninety nine point one FM KLBP playing
those rarely heard songs that deserve.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
To be heard.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
And that's definitely a rarely heard track that was Cross
Eyed Married by Iron Maiden. As I said, it was
the B side of the Trooper single, and that was
a Jethro Tall cover from Aqua Lung.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I even love.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
I love the original version, but come on, the Maiden
version is out of control. Like I said, it's it's
one of my favorite Iron Maiden songs. I think I
mean to me and I think most fans like myself,
both of us were gen xers. I mean, we do
hail the eighties as the golden age of heavy metal,
and Iron Maiden obviously was a huge part of that.
I saw Iron Maiden in concert on three tours in

(32:52):
the eighties, and to me, it was just it was amazing.
I even saw the the you know, the famous World
Slavery tour which I just told talked about earlier, and
that was actually largely recorded right down the street from
the KLBP studios here at the Long Beach Arena for
the album Live After Death. And that's where you hear
Bruce Dickinson. He screamed multiple times scream for me Long Beach.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Oh you were at you were at those shows?

Speaker 7 (33:17):
Yeah, I wasn't at the one in Long Beach. I'm
originally from Connecticut. I'm originally from Long Connecticut, so I
remember hearing that scream for me Long Beach as I'm
a teenager in Connecticut, and then I end up moving
to the Hollywood, California, and here I am now at
a at a radio station in Long Beach.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
So it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
We're talking with Daniel bucks Ban, the author of Iron Maiden,
at fifty and I noticed in section eighteen, page sixty eight,
it starts with the statement, quote to many longtime fans,
nineteen eighty eight, seventh Son of a Seventh Son is
the best album ever recorded, and quote and I say

(34:01):
today to that, what I don't get it. Come on,
and I'm sure since you said that you're a late
eighties fan of Maiden, I don't understand. I do not
understand the the affinity for Seventh Son of the Seventh Son.
When I compare those albums of the eighties, to me,

(34:22):
Number of the Beast is the ultimate style of metal.
The production quality on the guitars, it's very crunchy, it's
very raw. I love Peace of Mind, Power Slave, and
then they kind of, you know, switched a switched it
up a gear with a somewhere in time. But Seventh Son,

(34:42):
I mean, tell me your honest thoughts about seventh Son
of a Seventh Son.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well, for me, the eighties Iron Maiden album is Power
Slave for me, Oh good, good, okay, and it will
always be Power Slave awesome, although there's stuff on a
Number of the Beasts that is very, very hard to
be Yeah. Furthermore, those first two albums with Paul Deiano
are the only Iron Maiden albums where I don't skip

(35:07):
any songs when I'm listening to them. I see, okay,
they I mean just just in the eighties, that's a
lot of ground to cover just in the first six
years too. But yeah, somewhere in time. But I felt
like it was a little too slick, uh, you know
most you know, mostly just because of the production. They
weren't like they weren't doing anything too crazy, I don't think.

(35:30):
But I remember at the time hearing it and feeling
like it just wasn't as as gritty and it just
wasn't as it just the edge was not quite there
right right. As far as Seventh Son, I love that album.
I think it's great. But I listened to a lot
of progressive rock, and it's a progressive rock album.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Right, I agree.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
But yeah, and if you know, if you're into that,
then it's like, oh great, they're fantastic. They're doing that.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Yeah, it's like a heavy metal, progressive heavy metal, progressive rock.
I mean, more so than than Queen's Reich, even though
they got into a little bit. But Iron Maiden really
was the progressive metal band that kind of launched it
for all future progressive metal bands, you know, dream Theater
being you know, the most prominent of those later bands.

(36:20):
And but that particular album, you know, it's not bad
to me. I think it's a it's a it's a
decent album. I enjoy listening to it every now and then,
but I don't I just don't get the part where
people say it's the best Iron Madeen album.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
To me, it's just like that just blows I know,
longtime fans of many, many decades, and that is the one,
that is the one they keep talking about. That is
the one they're like, this is it, This is the
top of the mountain. They never did anything better than this.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:50):
Again, it blows my mind when I see that on
on forums, on social media or just talking to people
in general.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
But seeing that, right, you know, and it's a little
bit of like a why why that's the one? Really?

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
And again I think it's great. I really, I really
love it. But I mean, for me, like Power Slave
is kind of you know, starting with Aces High, I'm in.
That's I'm sold. That's exactly even before, you know, even
when it's just the very intro of the song and
it hasn't like really you know, totally started yet, I'm

(37:23):
still like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, I hit it. Niko,
yeah yeah, and I seventh you know, seventh Son and
somewhere in time to a certain extent, don't have quite
that like just manic insanity yeah, that we associate with,
like you know, Iron Man of the earlier part of
the eighties. But they had done a few albums like that,

(37:46):
and I could see them on you and be like, okay,
so we did that, what else can we do?

Speaker 6 (37:49):
So I get it? Yeah, all right.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
So then then the nineties came and things got really dark.
The music scene changed, including a change in vocalist for
Iron Maiden. So as part of your selection of deep
cuts for the show, you actually chose a Blaze Bailey track.
I mean, yes to be I'm flabbergasted, and I think
I'm literally offended. But if Money, Python and the Holy

(38:17):
Grail we're here, King Arthur would say run.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Away, run away.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
So you are not a Blaze era fan, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Not at all.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
But you know what, I do give it a chance
from time to time, and I go back to it
to see if I will like it. And the song
that you selected is a song that is actually one
that I can actually listen to. So we're sitting here
with Daniel bucks Band, the author of Iron Maiden at
fifty and his next deep cut from Iron Maiden is

(38:48):
a song off of Virtual eleven.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
This is a track called Future Real.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
I'm running out of my time. I'm runing out of play.
I'm I was heading until I can see back to
day in the game to be like Jack.

Speaker 18 (39:22):
I can't in it.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
I'm just slipping to it. I've got to see that.
I'm scared out do even so, I'm prepare. Do you
really want to dad? Can you only want to see?

Speaker 12 (39:35):
Do you ever only want to?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Real? Pain in your manly.

Speaker 14 (39:39):
Wash?

Speaker 5 (39:39):
People? Heal? You don't tell prell wash bere whenever already
we see such, I be like a pa.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
It makes me see him.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
People over there wanna that I do wanna do. Sometimes
they's like a game, or then they haven't seen. When
you're reading the same, I will be gone, maybe dead.
You will see. Do you be what you did? And
you believe what you see? Do you be what?

Speaker 9 (40:10):
Can you.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
What? Befreen? Don't tell me what becree? Don't tell he

(41:22):
wants to see.

Speaker 17 (41:26):
What?

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Chub b ch.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Chub.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
This is kob P ninety nine point one f M
where every Monday night at nine pm you can hear
hard and heavy rock and metal deep cuts like you've
been hearing tonight. And that was a track called Future
Real by Iron Maiden with Blaze Bailey as the lead singer.
That was on Iron Maiden's eleventh album from nineteen ninety eight.
And I gotta say, Daniel, I've never ever played a

(42:05):
Blaze Bailey song on this radio show before, so you
actually you popped my Blaze Bailey cherry and frankly, it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
I was going to pick two of them. No, No,
the other one that I was going to pick is
nine minutes long, and it was like, no, let's give
the guy a break.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Okay, No, I can't do it.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
I mean, even after that song, there's an actual stench
in the studio right now, come on, right, I.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Need to.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
No.

Speaker 11 (42:31):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Will always have time for Blaize Bailey for numerous reasons. Yeah,
and you know, I mean part of it is just
that I thought he was in a really difficult situation,
not just because of replacing Bruce, but because in the nineties,
and I'm sure you remember this medal was dead. Yeah,
people were just not showing up anymore. And you know

(42:55):
it's not just these guys, but also you know Judas
Priest and Black Sabbath, you know, they all had these replaces.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Singers in the nineties right exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
We're carrying them through a very shaky and kind of
uncertain time for metal. And in the case of both
Black Sabbath and Judas Priests, they don't perform those songs anymore,
they don't acknowledge those eras or any of it. Iron
Maiden still play those songs from the Blaze era and
they really are still very much behind all of it.

(43:25):
And Steve Harris said that The X Factor, the first
one with Blaze, is one of his three favorite albums
that they ever did.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
Well, Steve Harris, I mean, even though he is the
founder and creator of Iron Maiden, some of his opinions
about his own music is just insane and out of control.
I mean, he even said on the Number of the
Beast that he didn't like Invaders starting off the album,
and then he was like, oh, Gangland. We shouldn't We
should have used Total eclips instead of Gangland and that

(43:55):
was a mistake, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (44:00):
And I love Invaders.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
They're both great. Those are all great songs. And I mean, again,
it's his band. He can do what he wants. He's
taking it on the chin over and over again for
that band exactly. If that's how he feels about it,
I'm not about to tell him, no, you're wrong, having
said that he's wrong. Yeah, there we go a great songs.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
So let's go ahead.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
So for the sake of time, we have to go
back to the return of Now Bruce Dickinson on Brave
New World and Dance of Death into two thousands. You
talk about all of this, this whole entire timeline in
your book, and what deep cut from this era?

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Did you want me to play.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Months agore off the Dance of Death album?

Speaker 7 (44:45):
Okay, so here we go. This is gen X Rock
Hidden Treasures. We're playing the track mont by Iron Maiden
from Dance of Death.

Speaker 13 (45:18):
I stunned the moon of this test up space. That's
but I'm pulling alive.

Speaker 12 (45:24):
I said, And I stop.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
It's able to places. Don't put burning inside.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Step till it toil light time. I wonder why.

Speaker 19 (45:33):
Once secretly to the great Stobuning protects under skies the stuff.

Speaker 13 (45:40):
Burning inside that's on the walls, I do sor store.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
I'm a dancing on the walls. I'll stop, girl, that's
one of the walls.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
I got sick up still.

Speaker 13 (46:00):
And the dance and the walls on the stair fro
stops to kill them all. Some conself a still stack
on the bunk of his home channel, lay on his pad, sails,
grill on the broad john turns of the games, come

(46:21):
to the hands.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
And turning my girls to tell of bat b the
stake on a stall.

Speaker 19 (46:27):
To the table to stabling a come the time from
the buzzle chest of a cripple and flat. The sex
of this weapon is lost, driven the seal, damnation of
press right to the topching of life, the perfect but
winningly the diet, the stake on the follower slave.

Speaker 13 (46:50):
I saw another jap, got a play wor that there
still burying inside.

Speaker 8 (46:56):
And the dance and the walls on them, the guys
on the worlds.

Speaker 11 (47:04):
I'm not ship go up in the sky, I sing him.
The dads on the walls, I sit down ground the star,
the dads on the walls, I'm gonna sit down on star.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Ser we kill about something itself on some stuy puck
on to I was like, w I'm just coming on it.
Seal cost real and the rowing of the cosu.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
My rays front of the house and joking the parst
till I jup down I'm.

Speaker 13 (47:40):
On the step, but a store from the tank still
ming stys.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
I just want to chop them all aside. My son
lappers up darkness, don't we trusty? A try racking starling Woods,
the pass of the Beast, stuff and a star that's
the work, like a slave that there's a price for

(49:43):
your soul. Turn to stack with.

Speaker 13 (49:45):
The tip out some times on the walls.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Star it's a fair, it's.

Speaker 8 (49:54):
For the walls sucks like god, WoT a swirl?

Speaker 6 (50:38):
All right?

Speaker 7 (50:39):
What's happening, my treasure hunting scavengers. This is gen X
rock Hidden Treasures with DJ Hollywood digging up those golden
gems for your listening pleasure. And that was a deep
cut selected by Daniel bucks Band, the author of Iron Maiden.
At fifty that was a track called mont Segur authored
the Dance of Death album from two thousand and three. Now,

(50:59):
during that song, I was I was actually looking through
your book again, and here I am. I'm telling all
of my hard rock metal scavengers out there that this
is a visually stunning book. I mean there's so much
heavy metal eye candy here. I mean you even have
a gatefold, you have a centerfold page. Yeah, opens up

(51:20):
and it shows the entire Iron Maiden timeline of events
and albums from seventy five to the present.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
I mean, was that your idea? Was that also a
publishing books company? Idea?

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Publishing idea, They do that in every one of these
like at seventy five, at fifty books, and everyone who's
read these books loves them. They think that's like the
greatest thing in the book. And you know, it spells
everything out perfectly in this very simple, easy to understand
kind of a way. And it looks great. I mean,

(51:52):
it looks amazing.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
Yeah, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
So I have one more deep cut that I'm going
to be playing here here in the final uh timeline
of Iron Maiden. It's from the album called The Final
Frontier from twenty ten. And here's a track called The Alchemist.

Speaker 17 (52:11):
Stranger comment as it's stricks across the side Stranger.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Truth by Pas I'm from Delta. Mister exact track went
to tay look I'm sing tall by its head, I'm
finding time myself. Well it's saddest. I'm mister fight one
does sa you know the secrets sound my trams but

(53:00):
my pus Welcome to fus.

Speaker 13 (53:05):
Ll me just a chop to I'm Sis's trouble to speak.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
I said by on my side, says the last John
t Stufts.

Speaker 18 (53:37):
Straight up the team like sex friends, double love, must

(54:00):
and the famous and the wind.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Here the master summon up the spinners by their things.

Speaker 13 (54:06):
I couse you wait for telling the count say I
for entire Tea his death, though he stud with demons,
kind of command he made us.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
I looked into the class man.

Speaker 13 (54:17):
I was playing to see right by my shop as
not used and shut it.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
You are taking up my walton, laying the suners.

Speaker 13 (54:26):
You know the blackly mass, the temples, my dreams on
the car from my crows and queen will come.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
To ma.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Know me the man Sam talk to Tea. I'm the
Sis the house. I was the king of the bus.
I have the lag of the straws, but.

Speaker 13 (54:55):
Love the RELs, I say, I can ass the shut
up for the year.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
The turn to the side of the side the ship.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
The two minutes, sure's damn spot.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Stop stop Stock.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
Ninety nine point one f M KLBP Long Beach, California,
And you're listening to gen X Rock Hidden Treasures. And
that was a track called the Alchemist by Iron Maiden
taking off their fifteenth album entitled The Final Frontier from
twenty ten. And what a fantastic book you've put together here, Daniel.
I really appreciate you taking the time with me. And
where's the preferred place for people to find your new book,

(56:58):
Iron Maiden at fifty as well as your other books.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Well, they can find it at regular outlits like Amazon
and Barnes and Noble, or they could visit my website
notoriousbuk dot com where they can there are all those links.
But also I am offering the service of providing autographed
copies should people want them, but you have to contact

(57:24):
me through my website to do that.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Awesome.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
So once again, the book is called Iron Maiden at
fifty and we've had a great conversation with the author,
Daniel Bucksban, and I'd love a chance to talk to
you again on the show about your other books and
play some music.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
So I really appreciate your time, Daniel.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Thank you so blast, Thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
All right, So I want to thank everyone out there
for carving out some time and your busy schedule to
listen to gen X Rocket and Treasures with DJ Hollywood
and to get a little gen X nostalgic with me
until next time. Treat people the way that you want
to be treated, and always be good humans. This is
KLBP ninety nine point one f M Long Beach, California.

Speaker 14 (58:01):
That's right, playing the rock that gives you the nostalgic fields, yes, yes, yes,
and playing the new stuff that keeps you awake. Wow,
that was different, rocking you on the beach on ninety

(58:24):
nine point one f M k K K k LBP
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