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September 16, 2025 32 mins
Ghost Investigation - The Seven Oaks House Museum Part 1 - Episode 217

Welcome back! On this week's episode we start our tour of The Seven Oak House Museum, while we tag along with The Winnipeg Paranormal Group. Joined by our friend 'T' filling for Sher, we ventured into the store, which was the first building to house the family of Mary and John Inkster. 

Here is the History part - It is the oldest house in Winnipeg. The Seven Oaks House Museum is a civic museum in WinnipegManitoba. The two-storey log dwelling is designated a Provincial Heritage Site, and a Winnipeg Landmark Heritage Structure.The store at Seven Oaks House Museum built in the early 1830's is one of the oldest surviving building in Manitoba along with the main house built from 1851 to 1853 and one of a handful of log buildings remaining that give a picture of life at Red River during the 1800s. The historic site is unusual in Winnipeg as the building still sits on its original foundations, and much of the surrounding homestead remains undeveloped. 

Our group leader was Jess, a Mortician by trade, is a physchic intuitive in training and one of the members of The Winnipeg Paranormal Group. She was kind enough to guide the group on the differences between Spirits and Entities and gave us a very interesting explanation on what she sensed was in the gardens. She as well explains the interesting connection between the Franscescan Monks, their parish, and squirels!

Cool fact - the previous week, the store building was used during the filiming of the Little House on the Prairie reboot in Winnipeg.!

Don't forget the mark your calendars for 'Spirits of Seven Oaks House' which is a candle lit theatrical Ghost tour of the oldest house in Winnipeg, presented with Special guest Matthew Komus! This will be taking place September 19, 20 & 26 -  7pm and 9 pm shows. Check their website and socials for more details and to purchase your tickets!

As for us.....Spirits with Spirits will again take place September 24, 2025 at the King's Head Pub - special guestz will be James and Judy from Six Pines Haunted Attractions to give us information on their themes for this year's October at Six Pines and talk about the 'Shadowman' who is known to haunt their attractions!  

As well, please join us September 28, 2025 at The King's Head Pub for 'Sip & Shop' Pop Up Shop with the Fantastical Emporium and The Winnipeg Paranormal Group with Jas from Giving Up The Ghost Podcast MCing....remember to check out our Merch and possibly tell us your ghost stories! 

Don't forget to come out October 12, 2025 to the Fantastical Emporium Market at the Masonic temple for some creepy cool Merch! 

Enjoy this week's new episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hey everyone, it's Jazz and this is giving up the
Ghost Podcast. Thank you so much for coming back. Sorry
for the DeLay's been super super busy. In saying that
today's episode is part one of the Seven Oaks House
Museum where we crashed the ghost investigation with the Winnipeg

(01:02):
Paranormal Group. It's all good. Unfortunately Cher could not make
it with me this round, so filling her spot, we
brought out our ghost guest host, Tea as we like
to refer to her as, and we got to go
on the tour, got to meet some really really creepy

(01:23):
cool people. As always, this was a really really good night, Like,
we got some cool feedback, a lot of similarities between groups.
The nice thing the way the Winnipeg Paranormal Group organizes
the tour. They break it down into sections and then
everybody compares their notes at the end of the night
and there's always similarities. So validation and similarities. Man, you

(01:47):
can't beat that. When people see and hear the same noises, sounds,
names on the recorders. Yeah, like really really super cool.
I believe they have another one at Seven Oaks coming up.
Check the Winnipeg Paranormal Groups page. They have so many
creepy cool ghost and vision investigation tours. And as you know,

(02:09):
I say my intros off the cuff. I don't write
things down, so I'm a little lazy sometimes and I
really don't feel like editing. That's why there's a lot
of ooms and ahs and all that good stuff. Anyway,
So check out the Winnipeg Paranormal Groups web page probably
also good. Is the Facebook page more likely active? Just
to see what they got coming up on the scope.

(02:31):
They have Halloween Night back at the Istinepoyant Park Conservatory
or the Pavilion, I should guess. I should say. They
also have the Daily House in Brandon coming up. I'm
hoping to get out to that one. They also have
the Saint Norbert's Historic Center. I'm not sure what the
official title is. Tracy the curator from Seven Oaks. She

(02:54):
looks after both places, Saint Norbert and Seven Oaks. Totally
cool person, love her to bits, want to do more
with her. And of course we can't forget that the
Seven Oaks House has their own event coming up. I
believe the first one is tonight. Check their web page,
their Facebook page and it's called Stories of the Seven

(03:15):
Oaks House. Museum with Matthew Cumas, so please definitely check
that out. A lot of cool events always happening at
the Seven Oaks House. Hopefully we're going to get her
out for Spirits with Spirits one night November December something
like that. Speaking of Spirits with Spirits, see how I
slid there right in, we have September twenty fourth, Judy

(03:36):
and James from Six Pines Haunted Attractions. I want to
make sure I didn't screw that up. They are just
the most genuine, nicest people. They've been doing this for
like twenty seven thirty years. We'll have to verify that
with them, like this is like the coolest experience they
always have, like at least three different things going on

(03:57):
in their barns on their property. And to talk more
about with them this year what their themes are again
September twenty fourth, and they're also going to share their
stories about shadow Man. Yes, the property is definitely indeed haunted.
We can confirm that we've been on a short investigation
out that way. We plan on doing like a longer,

(04:19):
lengthier investigation probably like with the Winnipeg Paranormal group. And
of course I will tag along and hopefully share can
tag along and then we will have a little more
details after the fact. So definitely definitely the coolest property
you'd ever want to check out. Be kind of nice
maybe to go out there and record during Halloween just

(04:41):
to get people's stories. We did that about four years ago. Wow,
where does the time go?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So there is that Spirits with Spirits James and Judy
from six Pins Haunted Attractions. Definitely definitely come out to
that one. It's going to be amazing, fantastic, fabulous. Also,
we have Sip and Shop pop up shop with the
Fantastical Emporium and partnering with us and or the Winnipeg

(05:09):
Paranormal groups, I will be hosting on stage at the
King's Head Pub September twenty eighth for sip and Shop.
It'll be a vendor market get your pre Halloween creepy
cool stuff. We will have some merch there too, hopefully
some new merch come on down check that out September
twenty eighth. And also don't forget the Fantastical Emporium at

(05:32):
the Old not the Old the Mason's building there on
the corner Confusion Corner, Osbourne. They have their market coming
up October twelfth, So come to that one as well.
That one was really nice, what a great venue. I
checked that out this summer, just not recording or anything,
just you know, just because I'm that person I had
to go out and see if I could spend some cash. Yeah,

(05:55):
so much going on again, ghost investigations pretty much every weekend. Yes,
Spirits with Spirits and we also going to have Spirits
with Spirits October twenty ninth. The special guest on that
one coming up soon. Details very soon. AnyWho. So tonight's
episode again, it is the first part to the Seven

(06:15):
Oaks House. I believe that was August tenth or August twelfth.
Me and Tea we went to the first stop, which
was the general Store, the store building that was used
and interestingly enough, most recently it was used in the
filming of the Little House in the Prairie reboot. How
cool is that? That's really really cool. So the shop

(06:36):
was kind of empty because they took away all the
artifacts for now, I'd like to go back and check
that out when it's full. Jess was the member of
the Winnipeg paranormal group that was kind enough to give
us a little talk about just what she does, and
just her talents and her abilities and her feelers and
what she feels. So Jess, I totally adore you. You're

(06:57):
just like one of the coolest people. I've known her
two years now. We met her about two years back,
and she gave some really insightful things into the Seven
Oaks House as to what could be in and around it,
especially the yards. If you like stories of little people,
this might be of interest to you anyway, so check
that out. I probably ran this way too long, but anyway,

(07:19):
this will be one of probably another three parts of
the Seven Oaks House. Still got to edit the dollivert
and oh my gosh, there's not enough hours in the days.
So appreciate your support. Thanks for reaching out to us,
Thanks for being a part of the Facebook page, because
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(07:40):
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Speaker 3 (08:05):
Okay, you stay there that sure.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Hi, everybody, thank you so much for coming out. My
name is Ashley. I am one of the lead investigators
with Winnipeg Paranormal Group. Tonight, I've got some amazing volunteers
with me tonight. I've got Melanie, Jess, Brandon, and Hillary.
So we'll be your investigators helping you out tonight, and
then we have special guests giving up the Ghost podcast.

(08:43):
He'll be hanging around and asking you guys some questions
or trying to help investigate and catch evidence with you
guys tonight as well. And then of course we have
our amazing museum staff and volunteers. So thank you so
much for having us out. We really appreciate ate it
a pleasure. Before we get started, we do have a

(09:04):
few things that we need to go through. We have
some museum rules and then we also have some paranormal rules.
So I'm going to pass it off to Tracy and
she's going to give you guys a brief history and
introduce her team members tonight.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, for sure, welcome everyone.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
So Seven Oaks House is such a treasure for Winnipeg.
We're known as the oldest house in Winnipeg. So the
house to you're right, that was the original house for
John and Mary Engster, dated to eighteen thirty one, and
part of the house was removed and moved to the
other side of the house. So we'll talk a little

(09:46):
bit about that later. But this house is very historically significant.
We are on the original site for the house, so
that's really special because oftentimes when you come to historic
house museums, they've been moved or altered. This is the
original site for John and Mary Easter's house and they

(10:07):
were a significant family. This the house behind us, it's
considered to be a mansion of the time. This was
built in eighteen fifty one, So you know, when you
walk through it, just realize that you know this is
this is historically such a significant house and we need
to take care of it. So we'd ask that when

(10:27):
you walk on the floors, just be gentle with how
you walk around. Please don't touch the artifacts some of that.
Some of the rooms have barriers, just we asked that
you stay on the other side of the barriers and
no liquids in the home itself. So other than that,
if you follow those rules, I think the house will
take care of you tonight, So welcome, and I hope

(10:49):
you really enjoy being here. I'd like to introduce my staff.
So I'm Tracy, the curator. This is Brinn, she's our
collections assistant here, and Cooper he's an.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Order here with us for the summer. So we'll be
roaming about.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
So if you have any questions during your experience here,
there are a wealth of knowledge about the home itself,
so you can feel free to ask them any questions
or anything that you need.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Awesome, Yeah, thank you so much again. All right, so
we're going to get into some of the paranormal stuff now,
who's excited? Awesome? Do we have any skeptics with us tonight?
Guys are all believers. It's okay. We love skeptics, so
that's awesome. We'll see what we can do about that tonight,

(11:43):
all right. So first and foremost, you know, as much
as we want you guys to have experiences, we cannot
make them happen. We hope we're gonna encourage them to
happen tonight. But as much as you guys have free will,
so do the spirits and entities of this home. So
please keep that in mind before you guys, go in.

(12:07):
We're going to do a white light protection, so we'll
walk you through that. It's not going to protect you
from having activity or you know, if something wants to
poke you, it's still going to poke you, Okay, it's
just going to help protect your energy and make sure
that nothing attaches itself to your energy. Make sure tonight

(12:27):
that you're paying attention to how you feel. Your body
is the best tool that you can have on a
paranormal investigation, all right, But at the same time, the
energies here can make you feel sick sometimes. If you
are feeling overwhelmed, if you're feeling upset or nauseous or whatever,
please let your paranormal investigator leader so one of us

(12:50):
let us know. We'll take you outside, will help to
calm you down, and you're more than welcome to join
back in when you are ready and feeling better. Okay.
One of our biggest rules when we are investigating for
our clients is that we don't antagonize. We want to
go into the house with all of the respect that

(13:11):
we have for our own family members, and we ask
that you guys do the same. So remember that, you know,
you guys get to go home at the end of
the night. But if you've antagonized, and if you have
set something and you've really pissed it off these lovely
staff members, Tracy and her staff have to deal with
it tomorrow and for the rest of the week until
it says all right, I'm done. All right, So please

(13:33):
keep that in mind. Be respectful, introduce yourself, say your
pleases and your thank yous when you know you're getting
that activity. You ask that you guys watch your step tonight.
These stairs are rather steep and narrow, so please do
your best to just kind of go slow. No pushing

(13:54):
or shoving. You know, we're all adults, so just keep
that in mind. There's also for to turn antiques around.
Most of them are behind barriers, but just do your
best to kind of be mindful of all that. I
spoke to all of you guys about pictures and videos,
so we do encourage you guys to take pictures, take
videos and share it with us on our Facebook page

(14:16):
or email them to us. We love getting spammed with
your photos from our events. Nobody here has a blow
bracelet on, so just be mindful that you're if you're
using flash that you're letting people know, make sure you
say hey, flash before you take a picture or some
sort of thing you don't really want to blind. We
gonna ask everybody to pull out their phones, and I'm

(14:38):
gonna do the same thing if you could turn your
phone onto airplane mode. So we do have some equipment
that is sensitive to our phones, and we want you
guys to have as authentic of an evening as you
possibly can. So we don't want your phones interrupting with
the equipment. If you need to step out of the
house to turn your phone back on, get messages, phone

(15:00):
your kids, whatever, we totally understand. But just while you're investigating,
please make sure your phone is on airplane mode. We
ask tonight that you don't whisper. It sounds super easy,
but it's probably one of the hardest rules that we're
going to ask you tonight. So it's natural for us
as human beings when the lights go out, when it

(15:21):
gets dark, that you guys want to whisper. I don't
know why. There's some psychological reason behind it, I'm sure,
but you know, laugh, have fun, talk with your friends,
talk with your group, you know, just make sure you're
enjoying yourselves and just don't whisper. Anybody know why we
don't want you to whisper. Yes, so it can affect

(15:41):
our EVPs, which is electronical electronic voice phenomena. Okay, so
when we're going through our recordings, we don't actually go
through a lot of them for our group events, just
because we do focus on our clients. But if you're
going through an EVP, if you're going through your recordings,
it's very difficult to tell whether a whisper is a

(16:02):
human or a spirit. Okay, But all right, and at
the end of the night, after we're done rotating through
the different locations in the house, we're going to come
back out here and we are tryalid your experiences tonight.
So we're going to talk had we'll try and match

(16:22):
it up to some historicals. Maybe we can match up
names or even you know, some experiences that the staff
have experienced. And then after that we're going to offer
a group's much or sorry stain stain. So this is
going to again provide you with some cleansing energy. We
don't want you going home with anything tonight. All right,

(16:45):
any questions before I split you guys up into groups, No, okay,
I'm gonna grab my list. All right, So for our
initial protection, I'm going to get everybody to stand up please. Okay,
I'm going to get you guys to close your eyes.
I want you to take three very slow, deep breath.

(17:07):
Once you've done your breath, so, I want you to
envision a bright white light forming over your head. This
light is warm, it's comforting, and it feels safe. It's
gonna slowly go over your head, over your shoulders, it's

(17:29):
going to wrap around your torso giving you a big hug.
It's gonna slowly continue down over your legs, over your feet,
and deep, deep down into the ground. I want you
to take three more slow deep breaths and you can
open your eyes. So, as I said, this isn't going

(17:51):
to stop you from having activity tonight, but it will
help you with some of the energy. If at any
point you're feeling overwhelmed, feel free to call upon your
lights again.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
We can.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
All of us are trained or know how to use
the white light, so we can walk you through that
again if needed. All right, we'll do upstairs downstairs general store. Okay, okay,
we're gonna start on the main floor just inside here.
So once the other group goes up. You guys are
welcome to go in.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Where do you want to go?

Speaker 7 (18:33):
That group doesn't have it's missing two people, right, yes, okay,
then we're just gonna kind of wander.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
All right, Hey, all right, look at that? How beautiful
is that? Their gardens are amazing? Isn't it cool? How
it's like separate? I don't know, I just I love
old stuff. Hi, sure we're gonna we're not gonna steal
your thunder.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
We just want to.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I blew you off before. I'm so sorry. That's okay, Hi, Hi,
I miss.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
You too, my feeling I know.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
All right.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
So kind of like I said, so who I am is,
I'll give kind of a little background on me. So
for one thing, actually what I do by trade is
I am actually a mortician by trade, So that's why
I do for a living. But on top of that
as well, I also have been trained on two different sides.
I'm the weirdest mix of a person that you will
ever meet. I am a Presbyterian pagan as well as

(19:31):
a brawman because my mother happens to be Hush and
my father happens to be Tritidadian. So in saying that,
you get a very strange mix which happens to be me,
which is why you have the strange Trinidadian looking girl
with hair for brain.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
So that's how you get me.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
But in saying that, what I am trained actually to
do is people call me if they need help or
assisting with say an issue with themselves, or if they
sense that there's something off or connected with them. I
get pe calls for that with my training times on
a few different If you want to call them exorcisms,
that's I guess what we will call them.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I have assisted, and I have.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
Also just in general walk into places and see what
I can find, which is kind of what's happening in here,
because as you can.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
See, it's completely empty.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
And the reason why it's empty is I'm was informed that
actually they filmed a little.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
House liprarian here.

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Oh cool, right, nice, right, So I found that's why
everything is all hidden away. But that's great because that
actually works well for me in the sense of there
is no real residual energy in here.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
There really isn't.

Speaker 9 (20:35):
Unfortunately, it's what you're feeling is the comfort of the home.
You're getting the experience like energy does not vanish. Even
in science we know that so the love that you
put into an area or a home is going to
hang around. Now that we're smelling in this, that's home.
So which is nice, as I said, because it's a

(20:55):
welcome does in. So what I like to do is
I like to see possibly may or may not have come.
So that's what I do for my groups is I
read who walks in with you guys as to who
might actually be here.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Now, what I read is I read two different. I
read spirits and I read entities.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
Spirits are once walked to the earth, so it could
be a human, it could be an animal, it could
be anything in that burger. Entities are a different beast.
Entities actually are as old as the earth and actually
can be part of the earth in general. But saying that,
when you hear the word entity, a lot of people
get kind of nervous and scared about it because you
hear dark entities. Yes, I'm I'm not gonna lie to you.

(21:38):
There are dark entities. There are entities that I can
absolutely do things to you. But in saying that, angels
also are entities because they're not spirits, they are of
the above. So for myself, I have various triggers on
me that tell me what this thing is. Maybe that
it's covering around might be so my and as straight

(22:00):
as it is, so I get different sensations on what's
around depending on how my feet act.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
So if it.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
Happens to be a spirit, they get very warm and
they get very pingly almost when you don't be cross
your legs and they fall asleep, and then you uncross
your legs and that weird feeling as it's tread.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
That's exactly what it feels like when I have a
spirit around, I have an entity.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
It's cold and it actually feels like daggers going up
my feet, and if it's really intense, it'll.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Actually kind of cause me that it will cause actual pain.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
So interesting thing though, is while we were walking in
and around, and I want to ask, does anybody's I
know you do have a mild isn't you.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
That has the mild sense of you can kind of
feel as well? Yeah, when you're a wandering around, ask
a question, what did you feel? No anybody else? Does
anybody have any THEO back the big one.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
Over here, and the amount.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Of yes, it was crazy, and then the.

Speaker 9 (23:04):
Water water in the yes, yes, okay, not to show here.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
We were looking at the.

Speaker 9 (23:19):
Okay, okay, anybody else we pulled anywhere particular in this place.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Nobody noticed.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
I'm just gonna say, okay, okay, yes, that actually started
from the second that we walked up here.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's been in and.

Speaker 9 (23:31):
Around there was also as well we ended up I
guess with the squirrels. Now, the interesting part of this
area is actually, so this is one of the oldest
sections of Winnipeg, and I'm, like I said, I.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Have a funeral doctory, but I actually have been working
with the funeral.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
So the history in around this place is rather fascinating,
especially when you have just over the side here your.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Holy Family Home.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
You have the old original Ukrainian Catholic churches always through here. Well,
people don't mention the fact that there's actually a Franciscan
father sect.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
That actually does not exist here anymore.

Speaker 9 (23:58):
It actually doesn't exist in Manitoba and only exists a
couple provinces in.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
And around Canada. And Franciscan Fathers actually are spiritual, they
attract squirrels.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
Interesting, so very very interesting, and as I kind of
went through kind of the research and stuff like that,
this area technically would have been part of an original
older parish that actually was connected to the other side
of the of the river. Because actually Saint Charles, if
you go down the old Saint Charles Cemetery that's off
of Saint Charles.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Were where and ware that we're in there.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
There is the old Franciscan father's cemetery that's in there.
It's not marked. It's only marked now because I marked it.
Nobody was taking care of it. There was this big
there was this big fence, and honestly I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
A hydro hydro thing that we were walking up.

Speaker 9 (24:41):
Until one day all of a sudden, I was sitting
there and I saw a squirrel right.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
In and I went and almost I saw a platord
on the ground.

Speaker 9 (24:48):
The whole entire cemetery was completely untaken care of, so
maybe broken. The gentleman who's at the church comes down
to like what are you doing? Like, what what are
you doing in here? So I went on hand, looked
out my business card with I just want to clean up.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
He was like, how that nobody's taking care of it.
So it's fascinating because.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
The grace is starting there, actually start from before nineteen hundred.
It is fascinating and it's nobody knows anything about it.
And Fransist and Fathers that are actually quite interesting because
they do much like Presbyterian. They can walk between that
line of spiritual and religious and what I mean by
And that's the thing. If you go through every single
religious sect there is some form of spiritualism. Father's son

(25:31):
and holy ghost. Right, you have the Brahmin side, which
is of course on my father's side. There the amount
of spirits in there that have various heads and shapes,
and that it's ridiculous you go down that is a
headache a only zone. So every single one has some
sort of spirit. Even in the Bible itself. You have
the hand the rights of Blood on the wall.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
What is that dept? Not for a spiritual entity doing
its thing?

Speaker 11 (25:54):
Okay, I'm going crazy. It's you an older woman? Do
you have an older woman that passed away in the
past three years? Ma, tri excite your mom's side said,
may let.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Me work on that one. That's the thing.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
But that's the thing though, when it comes to me,
I basically just kind of open up.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
That poor hoole and just kind of see what kind
of comes in with.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
I have the question about the grounds I just live
a few blocks from here, and I walk my dogs
through here almost every day. And even though you're not
supposed to let her off the leash, and when when
she goes off leash, she goes wild, like she is
so excited, and she's a very docile, calm dog. But
as soon, yes, as soon as I let her off
the leash here, she's like whoo and crazy.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
That was the next thing I wanted to get in there.
So this is where we walk into so we have
one spirit here. She's nervous that I called her out,
so she's kind.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of just kind of hanging back a little bit.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
She's kind of like you a little bit personality, huh,
a little bit, but in through out here, so we
talk it and actually you don't get a little warm
in here, so you can see anyone happy.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
I'm gonna put this on you because I addure you
and you've got a good all right. So the reason
I want to bring you guys out here.

Speaker 12 (27:16):
Okay, okay, sorry, and please let me know if anything
makes you guys uncomfortable, anything like that, please let me know.
As I said, your body is the biggest tool that
is going to kind of let you feel if there's
anything on around here. Think about back when you were
a child. Okay, children can see. Children are connected. Children
are connected to the other side because they're a little

(27:38):
bit more innocent. As we get older, let's be honest,
we get a little bit more not so much jaded,
but we come a little more real. If we could
touch it, we could see it, we coul smell it,
we could taste it. That's what we believe in, right,
We all at one point in time we're open to that.
So we still can. It's just a matter of figuring
out how that opens up for you. So the reason

(27:59):
I came out here is because through here and my
trigger's going off. Well the way through here and all
the way around here, there are entities in here. They're
very small, and they're very tiny, and they're bouncing back
and forth between here to hear from the center and
where that hole it.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
No, they're little, tiny people almost.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
They're about this big, and they kind of just kind
of peek out and they but there are those little girls.
That's exactly what they look like. They're in throughout here,
in and around the edge and all and around. So
what they are, that's the thing. What they are exactly,
not one hundred percent sure. That's what the research comes into.
That's where me looking in and finding about the area,

(28:43):
of finding what the history of the area is.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
To possibly guide to what awesomely these things could be.

Speaker 12 (28:48):
But because this is one of the if not well
the oldest house in Winnipeg, these have been here for
a while.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
So but now I lost my absolute train of thought.
And that's okay, I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 12 (29:00):
I hate singly you out birthday or anniversary recently connected
to her?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
A birthday or anniversary recently connected to her?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, yeah, well I was my birthday and my.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Family fairly recent. Okay. He hasn't exactly said anything.

Speaker 12 (29:17):
She's not coming forward and doesn't quite have a message
for you, but she's pretty protective of you, and that's
pretty awesome.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Just know that she is absolutely watching over you and
is behind you. It is really really sweet.

Speaker 12 (29:29):
Actually, my apologies, I have a questions for you.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yes, you think because of the work he's doing here,
it makes it more open to his grandma coming.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Through quite possibly, quite possibly.

Speaker 12 (29:47):
Also keep in mind when you have a group of people,
think about it. When you're in church and you're praising God,
what are you doing. You're bringing in the spirit big crowds.
Even in the wicked faith, you have big, large people.
When you're bringing large people to together for this for
a conjoined reason, you're going to pull an extra energy
in and around, whether you mean to or not. So
it absolutely could could be.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
I could see her being here because she's protecting him
from the other spirits.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
It's quite possible. It's quite possible.

Speaker 12 (30:15):
Okay, maybe she just came for the trip, Like, Hey, okay,
are you going to be out past your.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Beau. That's what I'm thinking. Grandma's gonna be like, you're
up too late.

Speaker 12 (30:30):
Well, that was a pleasure to meet her, I must say,
But any other questions thus far?

Speaker 10 (30:36):
One thing you were bringing up the little yes, was
it specifically here and here and not the other side
of the bush?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Pardon they're running back and forth.

Speaker 10 (30:44):
Here because when as she was giving her presentation, I
looked over about three or four times just because I
saw something other. The fourth time I saw a guy
walk up with his dog, So I kind of just
brushed it off as a yeah.

Speaker 12 (30:56):
I kind of figured out absolutely absolutely, well and see,
and that was one of the things, is we were
talking about that, because we're doing the investigation for the
other group is going to be up and as well
as down but.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Insane that come outside.

Speaker 12 (31:09):
They've been bouncing around here like absolutely crazy since we
started the birds you had. Also myself and Brandon, both
of us have had now the same smell go through
us the whole time we've been here. See if you
pick up vanilla, but it's not like a you'll know,
you'll notice. It's an interesting smell. We've been picking up.

(31:38):
But again, that's what we're talking about with your bodies.
Pick up smells, pick ups sounds, feelings. If you're near
something and it gives you the creeps, pay attention.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Why is it doing that?

Speaker 12 (31:48):
So I'm gonna get you guys to walk back in
here because I'm actually I did bring my kit. I
was going to show you exactly what I use when
I go to someone's house and they say want me
to remove something or remove someone or etcetera, etcetera.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Sorry sight th
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