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July 8, 2025 34 mins
Ghost Investigaton - Avation Museum Part 4 Ghost Children Playing - Episode 210

In this final episode, we are back at the Infamous Royal Aviation Museum of Western Canada,Home - Royal Aviation Museum of Western Canada located beside the Richardson Airport in Winnipeg, Manitoba......and its HAUNTED!!!! even the volunteers and staff know its haunted. You have to remember these planes and artifacts carry ALOT of energy. Some people have even died in these planes that have been repaired to keep on display. 

Today's episode we talk with the security guard there who shares a spooky story about his friend's cabin in The Whiteshell.....its the first cabin built in The Whiteshell and it has an ominous past.....You will have to listen to find out more details about 'The cabin in the woods'. We also chat with Kelly from The Winnipeg Paranomal Group and talk about Jas's other limited run podcast.....Macabre, Manitoba from October 2024. We talk about the Cannibal case back in the 90's when Winnipeg was the movie location for the Hollywood Production of 'Shall We Dance'. Jewellry was missing, Susan Sarandon't prop necklance worth approximately $450 K!!! it was found with a dismembered body at the Royal Albert Arms Hotel. 

We also discuss the tragic past interview with a listener who lives in Transcona and tolf of the little Ghost Boy who died in the garage next door and returns to her house to 'Play'. 

Oddly enough....we had a few technical glitches...... 2 minutes of audio went missing......dead air, if you will and yet our mics were still charged and working and the iphone was recording in voice memo mode.....but we lost audio when Sher started to talk about 'The Ghost Children' known to run around and play in the museum at might. 

We deeply thank Kelly and Ashley, once again, for allowing us to tag along to record some of the stories while we investgated. It was a great night as Sher even was able to make it out to the Dalnavert this past Friday - it was an amazing night and everyone was fully involved in trying to connect with the other side. (the Museum is VERY active) Always a good time with Sher - reunited and it felt so good! 

*CAUTION we use our new lapel mics, which worked better than just off of the cell phone, however, it would cut out when others were talking since the musuem is rather large, so we apologize for the noise cutting in and out, I tried to edit as best as possible. 

'SPIRITS WITH SPIRITS' rides again! if you are in the Winnipeg area, please come down and join just tomorrow - Wednesday, July 30 from 7 to 9 PM at 'The King's Head Pub' 120 King Street! and did you know......its very HAUNTED.....see you there...if you dare ! 
Thanks to everyone (77 beaufitul creepy peeps!) that came out June 30th! 

Don't forget to watch for upcoming Ghost Public Investigations with The Winnipeg Paranormal Group in August and September - St. James Museum and The Seven Oaks House!

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey, it's Jazz and this is Giving Up the Ghost podcast.
Thanks for coming back. So tonight's episode or today's episode
is our fourth installment of the Aviation Museum. It was
a very cool place to visit day or night. I
highly recommend it and lots to see, lots of information
because history and hauntings go hand in hand. This again

(01:00):
was the event that Share was able to come out
with me and we were able to join the Winnipeg
Pair Normal group with all the lovely people Ashley, Kelly,
Mel was there, Brandon was there. They were able to
guide the public investigation and help groups connect with the afterlife.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
So it was.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Pretty cool, creepy, you know, there was stuff happening with
our devices. There was things happening, you know, with that
we can't explain with our audio. Towards the end of
the recording, there's just like two minutes of silence. We
did not turn our MIC's off. My phone was still recording.
I didn't pick any noises up. But as soon as

(01:42):
Sure started talking about the ghost children at the end,
when we were just kind of sitting around talking with Kelly,
it was just kind of weird. So there's that at
the end of this episode. There was also the story
that was told to us by one of the ladies
that worked there, and she didn't want to be recorded,
so I just kind of retold her story. So that's cool.
And yeah, there's some creepy, cool ghost stories retellings. We

(02:06):
talked about my other podcast, which is macab Manitoba, which
was October twenty twenty four limited run. I had an
episode out every day. We're talking about some gruesome, grossy
facts about things that happened in the city and beyond
and in Manitoba, and we were discussing that. We were
also discussing we spoke with the security guard there, nice gentleman.

(02:28):
He told us about this creepy cabin in the woods. Well,
you're gonna have to listen to that for yourself because
you're gonna shit your pants on that one guaranteed. Anyway, Again,
huge shout out to the Wipee Paranormal group. Share came
with me. We were able to go out for a
public investigation at the Dolnovert just this past Friday. Hopefully
we'll get that episode out to you shortly. Lots to

(02:49):
edit and we made Amendster Gurty, who we pissed off
a few years back at Doors Open. So it was
a great night, like, oh my god, like it was crazy,
so much activity, so much activity connected that night. The
people were great, the public investigation. The people that came
out had a lot of fun, and it was nice
to see that nobody held back and just people were curious.
You want to know, you want evidence, you want proof

(03:11):
from the other side. You know, you want to be
able to safely connect and know that there's more than
what we see on this plane of existence.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
So that was so cool.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Another cool event coming up again, Spirits with Spirits It's
July thirtieth the King's Head Pub. Thank you so much
for having us again. I haven't decided on a theme yet,
but as always we will have open mic and we
invite everybody to come down, have some liquid courage and
tell their story. July thirtieth, seven to nine pm, one

(03:42):
twenty King Check our socials for more details as that
comes up. Anyway, So enjoy tonight's episode and remember to
live every day like it is your last. But never
give up the Ghost.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Come on, Allie Yanks, it looks like Christmas. Give me
up the Ghost and podcast? Yeah, yes, do you up?
The Ghost is it on there first and only panormal podcast.
We've been doing it five and a half years. Fun time.
We drink and swear on there a little time take

(04:24):
the edge off.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I know you're probably to get about okay, uh, well,
you know, it depends on our schedules and stuff. We
were not formal one Brison. I'm about a week or
two behind, just because October's been really crazy. We're gonna

(04:46):
all right, mm hm oh.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Snoopy the bread there isn't that cute as the most
un aerodynamic arona I've ever seen? That's right, he did.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I know he has shot the red Barren down a
million times to pews right, Oh, valuable power.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Horribly bad. This sucker is, I know. And it's so
weird looking, isn't it. It is so weird. I don't
like it. I know, it's just odd.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
And that's what they go to repod here. I hope
they don't forget it.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh that's one that sits off.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
They have a landing on the water thing that just
seems Are you in the front of that?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Thank god, I'm going Where does the pilot sit on that?
Because there's the blade back there? But I don't like
this whole thing either. I don't like the way it
was constructed. It lands on water. I'm assuming flying boat
were used in remote areas without runways.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Instead of putting it on pontoons, they just made a
whole boat out of it. I guess, what the hell?
So we're going back this week? I guess. So is
that a crank and starter thing? It looks like it.
Holy shit, I want to start a playing like that.
I have to be the guy that had to do that. Yeah, no, kidding,
a few broken arms, yeah, sins. Are you usually security

(06:11):
here a lot? Or yeah? Have you ever seen anything
weird around here? You have not? Okay? And do you
have to do like a whole night shift here? No? No,
just when there's events and stuff. I guess I, oh, okay,
is there? Yeah? Well she said she went to a
wedding here one, so yeah, I don't know if it
was this one. It might have been adult one. Then,
I don't know. Ten years ago was this here? Ten

(06:33):
years ago that it was the hanger we were at? Yeah? Yeah,
we were in the hangar. Do you believe in ghosts?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Kind of made an experience, right?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
We get that a lot too, Like we hear that
you know, people want to leave, but until they see something.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
They don't you know.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that for sure. Well, if you
ever want to hear some ghost stories, that's our podcast.
So we've been doing it five and a half years.
We Winnipics first only terninal podcast. So you want to
pick mental stories, We swear, We drink and swear was
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Really good friend.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
That's the first cabin on the white shell.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
That's before it's.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Actually in that really okay. So the story.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Goes that there's a French guy came over and he
was a hunter and he was scared that his wife
would leave him when.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
He go out. Okay, so he used to lock her
in the cellar. So she lovely. That's nice, but he
died in a hunting accident and left her in the cellar.
Oh my god, that's horrible.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Carpet it over, but that that cabin is still there.
They haven't changed it. Wow, first cabin on the white shell. Yeah,
and he says there's like sometimes you have dogs like
barking at the same.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Corner all the time. Oh yeah, the dogs are always.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Sometimes like we'll have he'll play like his like his radio.
But it's not a real It's like it's an high
pod thing your phone in and sometimes it goes staticky,
he says a little weird things. But yeah, the hoest
hallow underneath.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I don't like that. I hope you got a deal
on it.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, see if there's anything in there.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
They have not.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
It's still like the car, the carpet down there.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Still you could tell the man there, that's a nightmare
in itself.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, that's a horse itself.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was just going to say I would almost if
they had property, I would almost build, like yeah, oh
that's kind.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Of believe the guests that don't like the night guess
who don't like that?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
In the wood circumstance, right sacrifice, that's horrible.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Thanks for how long is you're gonna die? I don't
want even think about that over a week. I mean
you can go without food for how long? I went crazy?
Probably snapped from dehydration what they had eat dirt in
the basement down there? Yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe woman,
Oh that's horrible, Yeah this could you just have no idea?

(09:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
What was your name, sir, Brendan, Hi Brendan, I'm Jazz.
Sure so nice to meet you. Thanks for sharing service.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's cool. Well, I mean it's not well yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh, we're just going to finish. I forgot what we
were with Aileen, and uh she went for smoke.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So then we're here. We'll buy the creepy plane again.
I know.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I don't like that plane. Oh look at that see okay, okay,
yeah there's a boat attached to that.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh yeah, I just noticed that.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
When we lived up north. Yea after when we had
our cabin, we had to get her boat up north. Yeah,
that's what we had to do. We had to put
that to strap it on a plane. Otherwise there was
anything ever bigger, like if there was one time they
took like the back of a truck to lock things in. Yeah, yeah,
take it in the winter roads.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I still don't like this guy. I just don't. I
don't like that guy the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Why, oh, look at I was gonna say, look at
the top opens and you can stand and poke your
head out.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
So let's take a picture of this and see if
something popsy picture. That was a creaky story.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Poor woman, Yeah that would be horrific old yanks do
on to what Time?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's a different song altogether. Oh my god, connentation.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh look at so barrel. How much is a barrel
of oil in them days?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, you always see those chairs go for it. You
always say those chairs were the big propellers. They got
to get it going. Eh, I need to be that guy.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Oh, I know, but that I've never seen a crank
on a plane before. That's like an old tea makes
like an old model tea. Know, they had the crank
on them. It is though, because it's hard to side
where the motor is. The engine's up there. This thing
is not gone off.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
No, not really not no, just a couple of little.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Blips, a couple of blurps, blurps. It was really cool
when you get on a plane, like a pontoon plane,
because have you ever climbed on a pontoon. They pull
up to your dock and when you get on you
have to like step on the pontoon climb in. So
it's kind of weird because you're sort of standing above
the water climbing onto this thing that flies in the sky.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
It's really weird again, the little plane.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So I don't think no, And I'm not saying that
because I would never try going on a little plane.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I just I have a hard time with the big planes.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Like I did not like going on a big plane
after I had been on a little plane for so
many times in my life, like all the time, right,
that a big plane and I could not see the
ground bothered me because you can see the ground right
where you're flying.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, they like and too with the little planes it's
all on the elevation, right, like yeah, like the size
you can only go so high.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh totally, it's not it's not pressurized, right, there's no no.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But yeah, like I counted, Like, where's not paranoid I
am about flying? But like I counted, I've been on
twenty five flights in my life. And that's even connected,
you know.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Oh that's a lot, though, Like that's a lot of flights.
I don't like it, No, but that's quite a few.
I don't know how many I've been on. But I've
only been on large planes like four times, maybe like
a large one, but little ones and beavers, like ones
that were slight, like a say a ten passenger to
like a four passenger, right, I don't even know how

(12:45):
many times.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Sixteen so right, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, okay, eighteen, I like eighteen
eighteen plains.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I forgot, but I knew it was more than fifteen. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Let's say if I want, let's just say for low,
for low counting. I went to say from zero, like
from birth till I was fourteen at least even once
you're there in back, that's like twenty eight right there.
And it was more than that because we used to
come out for Christmas and we used to go back

(13:38):
right right, So I don't even know how many times
that happened. Yeah, Like there was a mum always used
to talk about the one time that she had to
fly out herself, just her and me, and it was
storming really bad. Yeah, she said it was terrifying. It
was like lightning and everything up there. Can you imagine that?
It was nuts? They would fly on everything. They didn't

(14:03):
give a ship. I didn't. And just think about the
technology back then compared to now, right, Yeah, I know,
crazy pop in there playing the guy that flew us up.
One guy is Keith McCrae. He used to run like
they had a Hudson's Baser up there. Yeah, he'd go
and he'd work in the Hudson's Base store and then

(14:24):
fly place.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, I know, I like that story about your aunt.
Is that cool? That's very cool.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I have I have the story on my notes there
and that lady that was telling me about her when
she was sick. Honestly, the same freaking thing happened to me.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I didn't. Yeah, I dreamt it. I called it the wisp.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
I dreamt about this black dude, and it was he
was very threatening. And then for quite a while after that,
I kept on thinking I saw him in the corner
of my eye all the time. Yeah, like a while
before that went away, it was really creepy.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I've had myself. I've had like three paralysis. I've seen shadowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I haven't had that for a bout. The last one
I had was.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
So if Colton, If Colton was like twenty five, he
was driving already.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
At that point, I was seventeen, So not how long ago,
seventy years ago?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, Like the Pearls is thing like a bad one. Yeah,
it was bad, but it wasn't too bad.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I started getting into myself, but then when I realized
the circumstance, I kind of talked myself down from.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It, right right. Yeah, yeah, I don't know how to
explain that.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
No, I know, I know you sort of know what
you felt that it was happening sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I was giving me anxiety as it was happening. Yeah,
but I remember I had gone for it always. This
is the weird time. It wasn't the middle of the night.
It's just middle of the day.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and not when you're like deep ramming out.
It's like an afternoon nap kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Right for me, It was an yeah I had it
years before, but it was at night.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
This was enough. And this was in the present day house.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
And the weird part was when I was sleeping there
and I could see like light from the kitchen, like daylight.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Right right, because it wasn't dark dark because it's like, yeah,
I know it, and that's weird.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
The weird part was because I could see this outline
and that's the reason why I saw the spirit.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I thought it was my son and I'm like, yeah,
he's at work. And then so you knew you were
aware enough of that point, right, Yeah, but to stamped
myself out of it so groggy.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
It really is like you just didn't open your eyes
like it wasn't if you were drugs.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It was if it's your husband, you wouldn't know the
first thing. No, I know what you mean though, like
an overwhelming exhaustion, right if I dropped my mic Oh no,
there is.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I know you were beeping because I was sitting, because
I'm sitting.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
No, but the weirdest experience, the weirdest experience. But it
was but weird enough. Oh yeah, No, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Because when people when you hear a shadow figures, when
we hear about sleep proasses, it's in the dead and
night where everything is dark and black.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
In the day.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, no, the afternoon, Yeah, that was no afternoon delight
tell no ship srlock, no ship your lock.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah. Oh look at that old play, the blue and
White one.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
There.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I never see see somebody walking up there? Is that
just me?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
We're oh, no, there's somebody walking up there? Who is
who are you? And why are you up there?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Why are you up there? Last week? Don't know, I
don't know one of the volunteers. I'm singing. I know.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, no, wow, these exit lights foggy, don't they look
don't they look foggy?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
What the hell is that? My eyes?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
No, they're not very discernible. See, I got this one
app on my phone here it is mm hmmm. I
haven't used it for a long time. Oh is that
a show thingy?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Oh cool? What doesn't want to work? Though? We muted?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, maybe I haven't updated though the terms, the terms
and the conditions it's going. Yeah, I have an updated
a long time. So distracting?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Who so much to look at such stuff?

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I know, I'm just going, how can that flogging over
there on those things?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, well she's from she's from Transcorona. Every other house
seems to be haunted.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeahs A bunch of people talking about that all of
a sudden on transphone, proud of it. They're like, yeah,
I want to go look at the house.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I can't stand at there. Yeah, yeah, I need to
go on their page.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, do you have any stories at least when you're creeping?
Did you get any stories? No?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, okay, so maybe you can
get us.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Hello, that's right, like we know, so we interviewed. Yeah,
and they live well. She had a ton of really
good stories all her life, right, and then the one
story that was the most treating of the actual house
that they live in now, there was a little boy
that died in the garage of carbon monoxide poison.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
He was four years old.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
His parents were doing like lawn work and he went
to golay down and he died. And here's the creepy
on one of the a lot of creepy parts. What's
the house next Yeah, but the lady that they bought
the house of.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
She looked after him.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
She baby sat him, so he was always in her house, right,
So it wasn't that a little boy died, but he
died next door because she baby sat.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Him during the day and stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Their house is haunted now by the little boy because
he wants to go some ship and yeah, like things
will break, that sh breaking. And they've seen they've seen
him like a the corner of the abi. You know,
all all this stuff. I'll send you the episode. It's like, yeah,
a couple of years back.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh yeah it is, yeah, m hm, oh nice. Yeah,
they're out. I'm up to date. I'm up to.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
The one today, the one Today was the one about
that that dude? What was that yesterday? I don't remember,
I've done so many. Oh No, today was the uh.
Today was the episode with the cannibal at the Albert
Hotel for When Shall We Dance was being filmed here,

(20:31):
Show Me Down, Show We Down with Jennifer Lopez, Richard Gere,
and Susan Sarandon, and they had what was it? They
had the jewelry, they had, like, you know, really expensive jewelry,
and some degenerate stole the jewelry and he hooked up
with a guy that was renting the room for a
month in the Saint Albert Hotel.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
And the guy that rented this room.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Because it was like a shanty kind of place, right,
you know, question people, and I guess they had like
they had a yeah, I know, especially the Saint Albert
arms anyway, and so they had like a homosexual Christ
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
And the guy there than he chopped up.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
The guy into eight pieces, and he turned himself into
the cops, and we turned himself in. They went back
to the hotel and they found like he was stacked
up neatly in pieces in the tub with blood everywhere.
All found that four hundred thousand dollars case Susan sran
and necklace.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
That she was wearing.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
They could have been eating like royalty instead of eating
each other.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know, man. Fuck yeah, So that made actually
anywhere post. So I'm really dictating from the New York posts.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Ew.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
That was today's Hey, you want to murder? Are you
doing all murders? Mayhem and mystery? I'm mixing up. Why
don't you do the one that happened on my grandma's farm.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I got it that I'm going to be recording it
this month, not this month, this weekend, because I need
four episodes.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Well you know what, at the end, you can say
that there is one mass grave that they're all buried
in there in the middle.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Of the PASTA yeah, I had a hard time pronunciating yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
In the past.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I recorded a lot of this stuff when I was
sick and I couldn't pronunciate that, and I.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Just gave up names. I just I was sick, So
I got just ski everything.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
The one that's going to come out, the one that's
going to come out tomorrow, is the one I think
I was telling you were actually about my great grandmother
who got murdered and then.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
They defiled things. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, but the next thing about these episodes, you know what,
I'm just reading the next thing, No, but I'm reading
them straight from the newspaper articles and stuff, so I'm
not talking around. And at the same time, they're like
anywhere from three minutes twelve minutes.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
They're very yeah, very quick snapshot. Well I have that
newspaper if you want it. I took pictures of it.
Truly was scarier than the Yeah, totally. Sometimes it's like
a people go, I don't know how those people make
up those movies, And meanwhile you go, uh, have you
looked around at anything lately, like have you read news?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Or like the one I.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Did I was telling Sherry before he got here, the
one I did a couple of days ago, maybe two
days ago.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Was the Winnipeg jewel heist in nineteen sixty six. Like
that would be the Mayhem category.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Nobody knows about this ship, right, just like what this
guy he was like a career criminal, always doing these
like jobs. He taught himself how to fly and stuff
like that. Uh, and then what he ended up doing
was he figured out the route that when they brought
in the gold from raw from red Lake, Ontario to
Winnipeg to then send it to Ottawa to get mine
for like say, you know, the mint and all that

(23:38):
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
He figured that out and he did a heist. He
stole like a million two million dollar shipment and they
buried it in somebody's backyard until he'd laid off. But
because he was so renowned to pull shit like this,
like with like flying planes and heists and stuff whatever,
they went to him first. So he's like crying jail

(24:02):
on and off like over the years. And the last
he did was apparently once he got out of jail,
he was actually a medic flying the planes in like
waiting on the Canora area. But that plane crashed and
they never and two people died, the patient in the medic,
but they never found the pilots, so they're interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
He was kind yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
But apparently he was well received in Canora and he
waited for his fin I'm just looking at Winnipeg or oh.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's a good that's a good sight, and a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Of sometimes they don't so, but they give names and dates,
so then I can take that and look at the
newspaper articles. Yeah, like do you go downtown to No,
I can go in line.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Did you do the last hanging too?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Actually, it's funny you asked me about that because the
first episode is the first hanging, and I'm the.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Last excellent good good girls. But I'm going to do
something really there. There is there is a thing.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Uh, well, we did an episode about that, didn't we
There there's a big story there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah that you Yeah, I'm going to pair it up
with something really gross. But didn't he didn't he not
kill that person? And it was pretty gross. There was
like a graphic detail from the cough shop. I think
that that was the gorilla. That was Grilla Jack. Wasn't
it last? No? Was it? I can't remember. I'll have
to google it.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
It was a long time ago because there was a
whole thing was choked my candy, just go down the
wrong hole.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
But if there is interesting, if people like.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
You, yeah, there are always is interest in that ship.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I want to bring I want to bring No, that's fine, nose.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I'm just scan well. Well, yeah, scant is all
you need. Sometimes I didn't cool nice.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Every morning I go to the police, You'll be like,
they're so stupid.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah they are. Yeah, it's quite hilarious. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Hell, like the guy got followed in the snow, they
followed his track.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, footprints right to the door. Yeah, I know, I
know that's true. Though they are dumb.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Mm hmmm, well there was there was.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I mean, some of them are interesting and sad, but
the one was the girl in Brandon who was buried
in Her name was Aaron.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And Ny. We have we have okay.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah I did too.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I had a radio too.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I listened to the scanner. We have a we have
a listener or on Facebook. Who's Chorney so? And she
is the mother of a guy that's a fisherman that
I did paintings for.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Who's It's like such a small fucking world. Sometimes it's
so weird because we're talking about little kids again wonder
Oh it's like that you don't like me talking about
little kids. I never happened talk about kids? Am I on?

(27:20):
Am I on? Are you guys doing that? It was
off too. It's eleven, I said ten people.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I know, but in sometimes and sometimes is ten?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, the hell I'm off again. That's weird. Eh.
Oh man, I just want to see you go.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You don't know what I'm dead, am I know you
did because it's picking up.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
What the fuck? No, it's beeped beeped one time. I
think it's this place. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Do you have any stories you want to share?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I don't like being recruited? What if?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
What if?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
What if you were to tell us and that we
would tell your story?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
How about that? Yeah, okay, we'll tell your story.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, and do it that way?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 6 (28:34):
So I have two, I guess technically, so one my boss.
She's the one that's over in the boutique there. We
were here doing inventory and we were here pretty late,
and she was out here. I was in our back
storage room. We were doing some counting, and all of
a sudden we heard this loud bang and it wasn't
like the bang of a building settling or anything like that,

(28:55):
of course, like someone like rammed into something. So I'm like,
I think I'm here thinking that She just got pissed off,
like got up out of her chair really fast and
flew backwards. So I went to them, I'm like you okay.
She's like, no, but you heard.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That right, And I was like, she's like, thinking, is
that you? Is that you eat.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
And we're just like yeah, and so then.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
We're like hey.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
We continued off for a little while, and then she
started hearing other noises and she came to me she's like, yeah, wow,
it's like I know, we're not We're we're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it's good enough for the day.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
And then the other one, me and a co worker,
we'd just finished closing up, we were the last people
in the building, started going up these stairs to clock
out and down in between the bike out, which is
the biggest hand the Starfighter started hearing like children talking
and playing and we like stopped or like, is there
a chance we missed somebody?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But I'm like, no, kids, because we do like stuff
like that.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
And they we're like do we go? And then we're like, okay,
there's probably nothing.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
We kept blocking.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
We kept hearing it though, and we're just and we're like,
do go check it out? And we're like, no, we
did miss someone on our security walk and I don't
want to know, of course, of course, correct or or
it's something that they really don't want to interact with
right now.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
But it's it's always interesting when it's more than one
person that hears the same thing. It's almost like validation, right,
It's just like, Okay, I'm not crazy, and yeah, there
is something else happening.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
We were walking up the stairs with my coregram. We
both stopped at the same time.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like yeah, and we're just like, what stuff creepy? Don't
know why that is so crapy?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Other people in that area that I have talked to children.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I was just saying I heard I heard
them talking.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, interesting when you were saying that the first five
that started the museum was one of them, George Chapman.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Do you know that name?

Speaker 6 (30:48):
That is not a name that rings.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
A belt, Okay, because I know I know George Chapman,
who's regarded in the city, and he was responsible for
helping to put the first one together, the first or
the second museum.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that could be anyway, we.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Moved a couple of times, Okay. So the next story
was told to us from one of the ladies that
works there at the Aviation Museum, and she'd asked that
we not record her voice, that she did not want
to be recorded, and that's cool, like, you know, we
if you don't want to, but she said, we can
tell her story. So that's what we're going to do
in this part. So speaking of children, hint, hint. With

(31:26):
respects to her story, she had two stories. The first
story was when she was doing inventory with her boss.
Her boss was doing inventory in the gift shop area
up front at the Aviation Museum, and she was in
the back, and then all of a sudden, she hears
a really loud boom, like it wasn't like the sound

(31:46):
of the building settling. It wasn't like the sound of
you know, just when you hear noises when you're in
a building or anything like that. She said, it sounded
specifically like something rammed into something. First thing, she thought
like something happened to her boss, maybe she dropped something,
or maybe she got mad or whatever. So she comes
running out to the front of the Aviation Museum to

(32:08):
check on her boss, and they both look at each
other like you hear that too, right, And it wasn't
either one of them, but they definitely heard noises in
the museum, like big boom noises, like something got hit,
like a rammy noise, And they kept hearing these strange
noises throughout the building after that, and they were kind

(32:29):
of creeped out and then they reconnected again, like they
had gone back to do inventory. They kept hearing these
odd noises and then the boss came to get her
and says, I think we're going to clock out for
the night. We're done. So then they locked up the
building and they left. So her second story was again
concerning children, speaking of creepy ghost children. She was there

(32:50):
with a coal worker. It was late at night. They
were starring their proceedings, their process of locking up the building,
you know, and they check everything, and just as they
were walking up to the stairs, I guess, to like
the staff room or whatever where they clock out, all
of a sudden, both of them heard children running around
laughing and singing, and they thought they heard that by

(33:12):
the Viscount plane area, and they both look at each
other like what the hell And they both heard it,
and at that point they're like, do we go check
it out? And then they're wondering do we miss people?
Were there people still in the building, But then it
was late at night and they don't recall seeing any
children there earlier, so it's just like, well, no, the
building was empty, no more patrons were there, no more

(33:33):
visitors were there to check out the exhibits, so they
were like, do we go take a look, and then
they were too apprehensive. They're like, no, no, we're pretty
sure there's nobody here, and they both know who that
was as far as the children running around, playing and
singing and having a grand old time in the museum.

(33:53):
So given that they were pretty certain that it was
the ghost children from that plane or from that area there,
they just kind of locked the building and they pieced
out and they went home for the night.
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