April 29, 2025 • 31 mins
Halloween 2024 - Spirits with Spirits - Talking to the Dead - Episode 202
We went back into our archives and dusted off / edited our last 'Spirits with Spirits' recorded at The Little Brown Jug. The Greatest night of the year - Halloween.
Special guests that joined Jas and Ash (The Winnipeg Pararnormal Group) were psychic Medium Lynda McEachern Toro and Amy Potten from Regenesis, Who came to talk to us and share some of their experiences and how they use their gifts to help others connected with their dearly departed. Next week we will share Part 2.
Don't forget the next Fantastical Emporium & Peculiar Finds Market is happening this week Saturday, May 3, 2025 - Masonic temple - 420 Corydon ave. Don't Miss it!!!! There will be amazing tables of very creative and crafty people. Of course, Favorite peeps from the Winnipeg Paranormal Group - will be there too! Although GUTG won't have a table, we will be making the rounds.
More episodes to come from our catalogue including when we were invited to join The Winnipeg Paranormal Group on 2 special investigations: 1) The Winnipeg Aviation Museum 2) the Pavllion at the Assinaboine Park.
The Last 2 take longer to edit - 4 hours a piece - where we scour only the best for YOU!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
We went back into our archives and dusted off / edited our last 'Spirits with Spirits' recorded at The Little Brown Jug. The Greatest night of the year - Halloween.
Special guests that joined Jas and Ash (The Winnipeg Pararnormal Group) were psychic Medium Lynda McEachern Toro and Amy Potten from Regenesis, Who came to talk to us and share some of their experiences and how they use their gifts to help others connected with their dearly departed. Next week we will share Part 2.
Don't forget the next Fantastical Emporium & Peculiar Finds Market is happening this week Saturday, May 3, 2025 - Masonic temple - 420 Corydon ave. Don't Miss it!!!! There will be amazing tables of very creative and crafty people. Of course, Favorite peeps from the Winnipeg Paranormal Group - will be there too! Although GUTG won't have a table, we will be making the rounds.
More episodes to come from our catalogue including when we were invited to join The Winnipeg Paranormal Group on 2 special investigations: 1) The Winnipeg Aviation Museum 2) the Pavllion at the Assinaboine Park.
The Last 2 take longer to edit - 4 hours a piece - where we scour only the best for YOU!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, So here this seventh, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, such a good dive.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hello everybody, Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
How's everybody going tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We're all good, We're all good, spooky, spooky.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We want to share spooky stories with you, with some
spooky people.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So I'll just I'll start off. So I'm Jazz.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I'm with giving Up the Ghost Podcast, Winnipeg's person only
paranormal podcast. And to my right, I have the lovely
Ashley from the Winnipeg Paranormal Group represent Bunny.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thank you so much for coming out tonight. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So tonight Spirits with Spirits Halloween Edition, it's going to
be talking to the dead and saying that we have
special guests. We have Linda mcgirchen Toro present, she's a
medium psychic locally here. And then we have Amy Potton
from her Genesis she as well as a medium psychic.
So we're gonna have them come up and we're going
to interview them, do some Q and A, ask questions
(01:53):
and any other pertinent information that we want to know
or just how they communicate or anything to do with contacting.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
The other side.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I guess right, Yeah, and then the second half we'll
have an open form for ghost stories. If anybody has
any ghost stories to share, we'd love to hear it,
because that's that's what we're here for, is sharing the
ghost love.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
All right, so Amy and Linda, would you join us
on the stage.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Would you kindly come up up to the stage, please, scoot,
John Ann, Hi, welcome, Hello, Hello, Snuderlan girlfriend. So we'll
share Mike's okay for each of us, all right, sing.
So we've been as far as the podcast goes, we've
(02:41):
been wanting to interview these girls for quite some time,
just with busy schedules and we don't always record, and
they're always off doing all the medium and mystic markets
and all the good stuff, and plus their own daytime
jobs and Linda's y busy teaching, she says.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So we'll start off the evening again.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So we've got Linden and we've got Amy, who wants
to go first.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Girls, No, I guess it's gonna be anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So Amy Potton, if you've ever seen the local, uh
for lack of a better word, psychic fairs, she has
the fars and the markets. They're a beautiful thing to
go and attend and it gives you a nice sampling
that when you go to these markets you can choose
services from all types of people with UH intuitives that
have UH card reading abilities, flame reading abilities, wax reading.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wax reading. So let us uh fill us in tell
us some of your ladies with what they do.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So this weekend November second and third, ye you can
find Julie doing medium shittero, floral lessons readings.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
What else are you doing?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Julie? She can do it all and she's got the
greatest energy. She's a lot of button magic. We're also
gonna have Glynn Wallet Groski doing the flame reading that
you were talking about. Yeah, well I think you also
offer that sometimes too, right, Christic hellor Menard's gonna be
there doing medium shifts like auld work, ray Key, do
(04:12):
you remember.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Seeing any of the other people.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
There's a whole slew of people that are so gifted,
so talented and so so authentic.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, so where's that again? This weekend? Four Crowns Cafe
ten thirty Mcphillip.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Street and admission is free free. Who doesn't love free?
And Linda are you gonna be there this week?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I am not there?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I have family obligations, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, otherwise they're normally there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah. See, I'm I'm bad co host here. I already
I'm supposed to be sharing the mike shared moreod yeah
huh so uh And.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
As far as uh, Linda, what what is your or
actually we'll go back to Amy Firsus Amy?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So what what do you as far as what you offer?
Speaker 6 (04:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What types of like you do card reading?
Speaker 7 (04:55):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What are the what services do you offer?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I mostly do soul readings, so I look into your
eyes in the reader school, which sounds really creepy, and
it kind of is deep.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's deep, yuh, like I touch you where where it hurts.
Nice in a good way, of course, so you can
live your most authentic, happy life. Excellent. And how long
have you been doing this for? Since ever? I could remember?
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh, professionally seven years? Okay, sorry, you could get my
nurse head. I'm very nervous, everybody, she's very nervous. Excuse me.
So if if we bounce between Linda and Amy th
that's different. That's that's very private and personal, so much
better at that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And then as far as when you do readings and
that have you ever been able to connect people like
with a loved one or a l a uh so
that was the person.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Gift that came through when I was a small, little lass.
Can you tell us how that went? From what I remember?
It was probably about you and was my grandmother and
she was about to die the next day. Oh, and
so that.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Information was coming through she was already in a coma
and so kind of weird. Did my parents know when
I'm like, Grandma's dead and Grandma wasn't dead yet?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh? Okay, so yeah, that's kind of where it started.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
But now it's it's I've worked on my skills a
little bit better, so I don't just come up to.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
People and be like Grandma's dying now. Yeah, no, kidding of,
we don't do that. No, we frown upon that. It's
kind of rude. Yeah. And then with the clients that
you do have, like do you just do locally here
in the city or you.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Travel over northwestern Ontario Elbers, Skatchewan. I kind of go
everywhere I'm needed, right, and that would be as ReGenesis
right as ReGenesis?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah? Okay, cool? And how long have you been doing
the the psychic media markets? Two years? Two years seems
like a lot longer, doesn't it cool, It seems like
a heck of a lot longer. And we've got a
beautiful following.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, when I say great readers, it's not just like
me talking myself up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's like they're they're genuine. You need to come and
meet these wonderful women for sure. And I'm not anti men, no, no, no,
no men have opplied. It's no, no, it would totally
get that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And then as far as when when you're reading for somebody,
you you say you look in their eyes right like
you doing.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
The team right now. But you and you know everything.
So I mean, it's just you know anyways, it's all good.
It's all good. I come in peace. I'm not evil
that I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But but in any event, so, can you tell us
any prolific readings that you've done? Uh?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Of course with anonymity like you not names or anything,
but can you tell us what one of the most
pro pro prolific readings that convinced you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That there is more to this life that's convincing? Yeah,
I've always known, So that's if that's a tough question
for me.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Okay, you think that's why I was Yeah, yeah, okay,
So I guess like as far as like when you've
worked with people, what, what's one of the stories that
sticks out in.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Your mind that you help connect people with somebody that
they've lost. There's so many huh is it okay if
I use cuss words? Yeah, oh yeah, hello, we're all
about this okay. So I was doing an event in Canora.
It w a lady wanted to connect.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
With her sister who had crossed over Kay, but her.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Mother cames wrote.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh and during that reading, we found out her mother
was the reason her sister had passed.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So that was quite the situation. That's pretty heavy.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
It was very very heavy, especially at a psychic market,
not like I don't read in my own.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Markets for that reason. And she actually caused.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Things on my table to fly across the room and
kind of think everybody go of silence.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Wow, so everybody believed. If you didn't believe, you believed
in that moment, of course, of course. But at cours
I slivery I just knocked it off the table and
grow it across the room just to keep everything cope.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
With that salute, yeah, and then I could have to
be calm and of course, of course I'll like me
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
But I mean it.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I guess when people come to see you and if
they were wanting to connect with somebody from the other side,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Foreclosure if anything, right, not like what was the lost
code to the banks for.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Reading and not nothing like sad And sometimes there has.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Been quite a few murder That's why I spent a
lot of time in northwestern Ontario is to help with
the closure of that, because.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
There's a lot of unanswered questions. Oh okay, interesting, mm
al right, okay, so we'll take the heat off you
for now. For now you're not quite off the hook.
But so now we have Linda, and do you wanna
excre big clat for Linda?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
So tell us all about yourself. Where when did it
all start for you? When did you realize you had gifts?
And when did you start working on that?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
Yeah, it started at a young age as well. Uh So,
my mother's grandmother was known to be a witch.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
They were from Henry, so.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
My mom grew up with her in the house. When
you got go go closer, my mom had lots of
crazy stories.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
That we heard growing up. Booked, just very open and
interested in my mom was fearful, but I think that really.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Kind of opened the door to know there was more
going on.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
And had a lot of strange exper er aunts as
a kid, and.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
So I knew my intuition was really strong. Didn't really
know what was going on, you know, had some fearful things,
Scared of the.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Dark, scared of closets and years at night, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 11 (10:12):
But in twenty twelve I took the leap and started
reading Terry and.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That really helped with the intuition.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
And in twenty seventeen with t BC Google Spiritual Center
even know what I was looking for.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
I found the Spiritualist Church and I didn't even know
there was such a thing and run by mediums and
started attending and realized that it was spirit that was
talking to me, that it was so normal that I
didn't realize that's what was happening.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And I was hooked.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
So from there I just took so many workshops.
Speaker 11 (10:41):
Classes that I could, and yeah, back in Manitoba, I
was a student instern.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
Spiritualist Church for a year and a half in BC
and now back in Manitoba and working giving readings, teaching.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I love That's where.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
Ay and I both worked out of there, and I
love health and other people.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
Kind of tune into their own intuition, psychic and medianistic abilities.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Okay, cool, and you got another cool story though. You
were saying that you lived in Mexico for a little while.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes, I lived in.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Mexico for sixteen years. My husband's Mexican fun fact, which
is when Mexicans talk about the noise which is made.
Speaker 11 (11:19):
You know, we have a catholi.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
You're there, it's naka yacka, yacka.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's the sound, which is that's God's creepy. Yeah it is,
that's creepy. Okay, yeah kay yeah, gay.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah yeah wow.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
So yeah, married to a Catholic Mexican.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh it was over.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh talking interestingly and what did you did.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You learn much when you were there about the spiritualism
and stuff in Mexico or they don't really get a.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
Little bit, but I didn't really know that's what was
happening to me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, time.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
I've always been interested in war and readers. Every house
we lived in it was contented.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
There was spirit I mean.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Because it's such an old country and the homes are
so old, so there was always something going on.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
In the house, which was interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right, Yeah, Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And as far as like the gifts that you have
to help connect with people, do you have any interesting
stories on how it comes together for you or how
you were able to help somebody.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Yeah, you know what, it just every time it's different.
It's just been learning that to let it come, and
every time it's different. I tell my clients it's like
learning is another language, playing charades.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
And putting puzzle pieces together. So you just kind of
got to figure it out. But you know, one story
that really stands out is I had a reading coming and.
Speaker 10 (12:31):
I always sit and open before the reading and give
myself or going to a meditative state.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I had a.
Speaker 11 (12:38):
Large indigenous man come through with beautiful black hair and.
Speaker 10 (12:42):
No shirt on, and that was the first time I've
been we were a spirit came in with getting clothes
on and he was massive, and.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
I was kind of is this a guy?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is this a loved one?
Speaker 11 (12:53):
And so then the woman came in and I told her,
I've got to tell you, there's this man that's been
waiting for you. I'll turned out who was an exploit
for him past thirteen years previously. Oh yeah, And didnt
really stands out because I've never had spirit come through
with a clothes before.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Was that what she was looking for?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Or was her ex boyfriend or just to anybody?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, she was looking for for someone.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
Else specifically, but she was happy to hear from him too.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
Okay, So yeah, I find that I often get really
random spirits coming through and that you haven't thought of.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
It a long time.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I was just gonna say that was like my other question,
Like I guess when you're when you're connecting with people
on the other side and people are looking for I
wanna find Joe Anderson, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, I know that's not how it goes, but
I mean when people come to you looking for that one.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Specific person, like I mean, you can't really deliver, you know,
Like that's a tough So I.
Speaker 10 (13:46):
Always tell them to keep an open mind as to
who's gonna come through.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
It might not be who you want to hear it from,
but it's what what you need to.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hear, gotcha.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
If they are looking for someone.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Specific, I will usually work off of a photograph and
I that to be very very helpful in bringing them through.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
It's one of the exact science.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Doesn't always work that way, but I usually start off
letting spirit take the lead and kind of a guy who's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Gonna come through?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
What what is syney to your just because like you know,
when you get to a certain age, like I'm kind
of old, so when you get to a certain age,
a lot of people are dead now, and it's just
like there's a lot of people I really don't wanna
see or talk to cause I'm still angry with some people.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So it's just like that'd be like the last person
on my list, you know what I mean, Like probably
your uh, that's not gonna work out. Well.
Speaker 11 (14:32):
Usually they've done some work on the other side and
they're coming through to show that.
Speaker 9 (14:36):
There's some feeling happening okay, and to make amends right,
And it's maybe just a quick message just to kind
of ease in the door.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh the next time, like a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
But that's usually really okay, you know, not that third
grade teacher that sent me to the corner every week.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know what I'm saying, Like I don't wanna see
him anymore.
Speaker 11 (14:52):
Yeah, well I can't anymore. Just getting out I always
the people I know I'm going back in your memory
bank and the drop of that right, And it doesn't
always work right.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
I often get emails later saying, oh my god, I
totally know what you're talking about. Now I know who
that person was and they couldn't place it in the moment.
Speaker 11 (15:08):
Oh kay.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
I had one reading where I.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
Was back in this when it's teenage years. I could
see the girls she was hanging out with.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I told her if you were in a bookstore, you know.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
The bookstore owner, and she couldn't place it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What turned out was the bookstore was a library.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
So I just get the information.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Sure.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
But now, but when she got home, it came together
and she said, people don't know how I didn't tuned
you together.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But you know, kind in the moment you're thinking you want.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Someone else and someone random comes in, right, it's hard
to switch gears and and kind of build that direction.
So it's but three when that happens, that's the best evidence.
And for sure they weren't even thinking of that person who.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And maybe to take that a little bit further, say
say if somebody came to seeking uh to connect with
somebody that's passed, and do you ever find that after
you've done the reading for somebody and then all of
a sudden something happens after the session and then that
person shows up or you get other messages.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Have they ever had that like after it's done.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Nope, Nope.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Once I've done, I kind of close the doors and
okay goes off, so that the so the spirit's not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
With me, they're with who never came in for the
reading buttually with them Okay No.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
So, like you know, you kind of have to have
boundaries and barriers and rules otherwise you get crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You never sleep.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
No, an you knows, like if you see the Tracy
who don't I don't walk into a grocery store a
lot you know why your grandfather's with you?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, that would be unethical.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Yeah, but what you don't see is they're probably having
them fu sign a disclaimer and telling them what's going on.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
And say, I'm that a connect with the loved one, right,
so it it does?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, I'd be exhausted if I walked around like yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Like I I wonder about those shows because for all
the stuff that they film, there's so much that's probably
only like ten percent of what they've filmed, because you know,
just to be able to get that specific all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So do you got any questions? Ash? Do you think
of any questions? All right? Isn't a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She's waiting on some very very important phone call. Yeah, yeah, so,
and any.
Speaker 11 (17:11):
Spirit works so many different ways. It's you know, we
call it the claires. And sometimes I see them, sometimes
I feel them.
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Sometimes I just know things.
Speaker 11 (17:19):
M You know, one time I knew that the person
in spirit had to take me on it, but do
I could feel it. I don't know what that feels like,
but I knew that's what I was feeling.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
You know, in chime, I knew someone in the spirit
was eating and I mean like an apple because I
could taste it or I could. I knew that they
like chewing toback. Well I've never tasted that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But I knew that's what was in my mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
So it's just bringing through the evidence exactly as you
get it and not trying to get in your head
to figure it out because it's not from its rights
for them. So they if I get in the way,
I can buddle.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Up the message friend so easily.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
So it's just about giving what you net.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Do you, ladies, ever recall at any given time any
important messages.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That you were able to late. Was there ever a
time there an important?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was just gonna say that they're.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
All important, like oh yeah, no, no, I'm not minimizing
by any means, but I'm just saying like I, you know,
like I guess when somebody comes to you and and
then they're looking for something, mm closure.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I not a young man, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Think he'd ever been from reading before.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
And his grandfather came through who he had not known.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
So when they don't know them, it's hard cause we
were at to break through the evidence.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
So he didn't know a lot about his grandfather.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
So his grandfather was showing me that he was concerned
with how he ate, he would stand in his culture.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And snark his food.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
And so the grandfather was.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Showing me his apartment and how he was using. So
I told him that, and uh, I freaked him out
on the little that I think he thought I was fine. So,
how do you know what my apartment looks aage?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh that's interesting I'm making. So that's proof right there.
I mean, that's you know, bang on it exactly. Yeah,
for sure, there's probably a lot of them, like how
do you know were were you surfing? My Facebook. Were
you doing all these things?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 11 (19:06):
You just know yup?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And we don't question the why once like going that
why right? Else this is ma's been sailing.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
And then so when you say that, you know you
have to close yourself off so that nobody else, you know,
comes through after the fact, when when you're reading for
somebody and and working with somebody for yourself and your
personal life, Like, I guess you have to protect yourself too, right.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like, yeah, cause if it comes through all the time
for you, that would drive it crazy. So I'm a
different from you that way.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm up in all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
No, and I've dried all the tools, all the things
they said, but I think might be just supposed to
come at night, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So yeah, So yeah, it's a it's a very much.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
I mean, I'm a bunch of people and you're gount
with you and your partner.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they're not all that's worth. It's not.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's not the kind of No, it's not the kind
of fun you're a No, I don't know, nobody needs
an audience, no for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And yeah, cause I would imagine like even if you.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Know how your mind just you're just kind of like
I'm neutral, and you're going.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
On with your day and thoughts pop in your head
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I can imagine for you, ladies, what you have to,
you know, really disconnect yourself because like say, if you're
like it's not feeling well, or if you're sick, right
and you're kind of like low vibration, right, you gotta
really be really protect yourself.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Could you have to discern if it's yours for somebody's
like somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Else is in that very hard right?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Even the word for you.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
If I'm doing a reading, I assume that everything I
get while I'm doing the rating is.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
For the recipient, Okay, And if I'm not.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
If I'm going about my day and a STEM and
I feel something, I'll usually tune.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
In and kind of ask my guide what's going on
do I need to be aware of? But for me,
I feel a little different and spirituous. So you hear
my elbow gets pulled, I was like, am I feel
on my right elbow?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's cool?
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, So that's when I sits there and I feel
a bit of pressure back here.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So that's what I'll know, and I'll kind.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
Of open up and see what's going.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
On is there something that I need to be alerted to.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Right, And you were saying before too, you meditate, You
meditate before session?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Is that how you?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Centric? Yeah, yeah, I uh.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I do a meditation called sitting in the power, which
is for the kind of development of our abilities.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It was brought to us by spirit.
Speaker 12 (21:23):
Okay, and so it's to kind of that connection and
have them draw close. Oh so it gets me in
the right frame of mic. So even if I, you know,
way in like I don't really wanna do rating today.
I'm feeling tired the minute I do that meditation.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
On my vibrations up there.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Also, it's about raising that vibration, right, I've heard about
that before, Like, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
A little vibration, my vibration.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, that's a good question. How do how do you prepare?
I just jump right in. That sounds dangerous, but that's
always how I've done. Yeah. So I would think if anything,
if you were ever in a location that was haunted,
like knowing haunted, I would think they got on all
(22:04):
that as energy, right, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So Amy,
I think we should share how you and I met.
This is a good story.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You go first, you want me to go first, Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So uh it was shortly after I had started with
the group and.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We were doing a talk out at the Gimbli Iceland
up Museum and Amy came.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Out to you know, listen to us, let figure out
if I could trust you. Yeah, And she ended up
coming up to me after the talk was over and
she's like, oh, hey, like, you know, do you guys
ever do out of town investigations?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And I'm like, yeah, I don't see why not?
Speaker 11 (22:48):
You know what you got.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
She's like, oh, well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh I might message you guys.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm like, alright, that's cool.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Then she ended up messaging us through our email, and
like I said, I had just started.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
So the Amy's case was my very first case that
I got to take the lead on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And so she messaged us and and You're like, you know,
I've got some stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I live the Winnipeg Beach.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, she mane had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You had a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, you know, can you guys like come out and
meet with us and meet me and and you know,
come investigate my house and part of our procedures that
we like to meet the client first and kind of
get a feel for the house and you know, walk
through the house, see the layout, decide on the side
of the team and things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We don't just jump into an investigation.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So but because you were so far away, we've decided
that we were gonna meet in Winnape cause you were
coming in for something.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think I came up in for another investigation that.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
The hot girl.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Maybe it was.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
So we met at as Importons and we get into
it and I'm like, okay, so like you know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
First of you know, question is like, well, what's your address?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And you give it to me it and my face
just went like completely white, and Kelly took over the
rest of.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
The interview.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
And I don't think I said anything.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
She would have point it was after investigating.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, So I called my mom and I'm like, this
is gonna sound really really weird, but what is nanny's.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Address out of the cabin And it turned out that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was the same house that Amy was in.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So Amy was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Living in my grandmother's previous cabin, so I kind of yeah,
it was it was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
There's a reason that this was my case.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, we were able to go out and I brought
all of these old pictures of the cabin from like thirty.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Years for years prior me as a baby crawling around in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
The house, and you got my daughter to look at it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, she was the one having the.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Most experiences in the house.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So it sound like when the spirit comes to see me,
like through mediumship. This was this was out of control.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Yeah, I couldn't see this figure, but my daughter could.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And we thought she was going a little bit weep if.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You cause she wasn't.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
She wasn't no, but yeah, so we like cleared up
to the information cause you didn't think.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Anybody had died in the home, and I was able
to confirm that there was unknown death, which was my uncle.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Uh in my kitchen, in your kitchen yuh wow.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So it was really interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Experience, like how spirit connects different people, which you never
know until you actually meet them.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
While you're meeting them, but there's always reason and it
was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It was you did find other spirits in them home,
though we did.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There was actually quite a bit of a day that
then or something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But we're close to the water.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So it's yeah, there's I've a lot of transition in there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It was really eating like that. It was and your
uncle Suil's eyes in the home.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It wouldn't surprise me if they loved.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
It over there, and then you people who lived there
just let things happen instead.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Of being freaked out about it. Oh that's so it's
just stuff moving in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Pictures, dancing, Ah, that kind of stuff, typical every day stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yea, that's always fun.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So that's how we.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Meved typical every day stone in my own.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Have you have you helped people when they they're both
to transition over have you?
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
So I'm also a spiritual healer, so well, I had
helped people.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
When they'd gotten close to transition during transition, sending them healing.
I've had experiences with helping spirits that were stuck don't crossover.
Sometimes it's rare, but it does happen. Sometimes your hanger
Fi stated on something on this song.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I uh so they don't know that they passed on
and it didn't happen.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
So I'll I'll tell you when I was kind of
a bizarre story when I was first going down this
radical into mediumship. I had a a girlfriend in BC
who's a meeting and we're right on the car or
development was.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
The same, So we practiced a lot together.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And I was nervous in the beginning to do readings.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
You know, to have people sitting there staring at me.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
So i'd do photo readings and work.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
With that, and i'd write it.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Down and send it to people.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And my girlfriend had had a meditation.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
With the young man who had crashed his motorbike, and
she's like, it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't know where they came in.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
So I was doing the week later, I was doing uh.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
A photo reading for a woman and I had a
young man on a motorbike and I.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Could see that crash.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
She was standing in the highway and I sent her
the information that she couldn't take it. She had no
idea of who he was, okay, And so I told
my friend and she's like, that's who was a home meditation.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I'm like, that's so weird.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
So we didn't know what was going on when we
were new, you know, mediumship journey.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So we took it to the.
Speaker 11 (28:01):
Spiritualist Church to ended at our experience medium and she's similar,
it's someone that nats your.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Help, any that the TT you of would talk about
it and get helped, and he needs help crossing over.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
He was in a tragic accident and didn't realize that
it uh when it happened to it kind of stuck.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, so that was really freaky in the beginning, m
some heat experience.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So you think he he didn't cross over cause he
didn't realize he was dead, or he just refused.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
To be Yeah, I hears that he was.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I think he didn't realize what had happened and and
missed the window with the white light was a little
bit stuck.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Got to the.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Trauma and the tragedy of the accident day of dam.
I mean, I'm no expert by any means, but we've
we've spoken with so many people, and we've done so
many stories.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We've covered so many different scenarios in that. And I
always find or feel, you know, when people don't cross over,
if they're still here and they're they're not gone, it's
either maybe because something sudden and traumatic happened, or you know,
just maybe somebody's just so bitter, you know, because you know, you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Get the poltergeist and stuff that caused all the shit
to happen, right, Like I mean, you know, it's not
that they want to be here, it's just they don't
know any better.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
They just don't know, right, Like you know, I mean
even for example, not not to sound gross or whatever,
I had a friend who committed suicide and it was
as probably as like a fifth or sixth attempt.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And this was like always a drug overdose up until then.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
They were always able to pump the stomach and after
a few days set him on his merry way. But
you know, at that point it went too far, and
we basically sat there and watched him die for three
days in the hospital as the drugs were eating him
from the inside out because they were it was too
too long, they couldn't pump the stomach and all that.
So in saying that, I could see it in his
(29:44):
eyes and I could feel it like he kept wanting
to leave, He kept wanting to go, like you know,
he tried it.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
It didn't work cause he always thought, I guess it was.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Instant, and it wasn't instant like you know, drugs like
it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, And and I just felt like I just felt
he wasn't ready to go, like he's not like he
couldn't communicate anymore, and just a look in his eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like he was not gonna go, you know, And I
I and I I believe he's probably still there for
what that's worth, you know, in the hospital somewhere, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Ironically, Uh a year later, Uh, my mother died in
the same hospital A bit in er, which is low
for me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But uh but I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Aside from that, I just I just find that when
people don't cross over like you know, it's tragedy or
even like they just refuse to believe they're dead.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And I don't think for for this fellow, I I
don't think he he just thought it was just like
one of the other five or six times, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, it could be. And sometimes spirals of that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And finish business right, just miserable.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
A yes, sometimes it's been miserable and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Uh, they don't wanna go in it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is theyre house stold, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Mentally experiences with those some with mental helps some of
the mental
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Health which hichem s
All right, So here this seventh, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, such a good dive.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hello everybody, Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
How's everybody going tonight?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We're all good, We're all good, spooky, spooky.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We want to share spooky stories with you, with some
spooky people.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So I'll just I'll start off. So I'm Jazz.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I'm with giving Up the Ghost Podcast, Winnipeg's person only
paranormal podcast. And to my right, I have the lovely
Ashley from the Winnipeg Paranormal Group represent Bunny.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thank you so much for coming out tonight. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So tonight Spirits with Spirits Halloween Edition, it's going to
be talking to the dead and saying that we have
special guests. We have Linda mcgirchen Toro present, she's a
medium psychic locally here. And then we have Amy Potton
from her Genesis she as well as a medium psychic.
So we're gonna have them come up and we're going
to interview them, do some Q and A, ask questions
(01:53):
and any other pertinent information that we want to know
or just how they communicate or anything to do with contacting.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
The other side.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I guess right, Yeah, and then the second half we'll
have an open form for ghost stories. If anybody has
any ghost stories to share, we'd love to hear it,
because that's that's what we're here for, is sharing the
ghost love.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
All right, so Amy and Linda, would you join us
on the stage.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Would you kindly come up up to the stage, please, scoot,
John Ann, Hi, welcome, Hello, Hello, Snuderlan girlfriend. So we'll
share Mike's okay for each of us, all right, sing.
So we've been as far as the podcast goes, we've
(02:41):
been wanting to interview these girls for quite some time,
just with busy schedules and we don't always record, and
they're always off doing all the medium and mystic markets
and all the good stuff, and plus their own daytime
jobs and Linda's y busy teaching, she says.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So we'll start off the evening again.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So we've got Linden and we've got Amy, who wants
to go first.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Girls, No, I guess it's gonna be anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So Amy Potton, if you've ever seen the local, uh
for lack of a better word, psychic fairs, she has
the fars and the markets. They're a beautiful thing to
go and attend and it gives you a nice sampling
that when you go to these markets you can choose
services from all types of people with UH intuitives that
have UH card reading abilities, flame reading abilities, wax reading.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wax reading. So let us uh fill us in tell
us some of your ladies with what they do.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So this weekend November second and third, ye you can
find Julie doing medium shittero, floral lessons readings.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
What else are you doing?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Julie? She can do it all and she's got the
greatest energy. She's a lot of button magic. We're also
gonna have Glynn Wallet Groski doing the flame reading that
you were talking about. Yeah, well I think you also
offer that sometimes too, right, Christic hellor Menard's gonna be
there doing medium shifts like auld work, ray Key, do
(04:12):
you remember.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Seeing any of the other people.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
There's a whole slew of people that are so gifted,
so talented and so so authentic.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, so where's that again? This weekend? Four Crowns Cafe
ten thirty Mcphillip.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Street and admission is free free. Who doesn't love free?
And Linda are you gonna be there this week?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I am not there?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
This weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I have family obligations, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, otherwise they're normally there.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah. See, I'm I'm bad co host here. I already
I'm supposed to be sharing the mike shared moreod yeah
huh so uh And.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
As far as uh, Linda, what what is your or
actually we'll go back to Amy Firsus Amy?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So what what do you as far as what you offer?
Speaker 6 (04:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What types of like you do card reading?
Speaker 7 (04:55):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What are the what services do you offer?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I mostly do soul readings, so I look into your
eyes in the reader school, which sounds really creepy, and
it kind of is deep.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's deep, yuh, like I touch you where where it hurts.
Nice in a good way, of course, so you can
live your most authentic, happy life. Excellent. And how long
have you been doing this for? Since ever? I could remember?
Speaker 8 (05:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh, professionally seven years? Okay, sorry, you could get my
nurse head. I'm very nervous, everybody, she's very nervous. Excuse me.
So if if we bounce between Linda and Amy th
that's different. That's that's very private and personal, so much
better at that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And then as far as when you do readings and
that have you ever been able to connect people like
with a loved one or a l a uh so
that was the person.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Gift that came through when I was a small, little lass.
Can you tell us how that went? From what I remember?
It was probably about you and was my grandmother and
she was about to die the next day. Oh, and
so that.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Information was coming through she was already in a coma
and so kind of weird. Did my parents know when
I'm like, Grandma's dead and Grandma wasn't dead yet?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh? Okay, so yeah, that's kind of where it started.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
But now it's it's I've worked on my skills a
little bit better, so I don't just come up to.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
People and be like Grandma's dying now. Yeah, no, kidding of,
we don't do that. No, we frown upon that. It's
kind of rude. Yeah. And then with the clients that
you do have, like do you just do locally here
in the city or you.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Travel over northwestern Ontario Elbers, Skatchewan. I kind of go
everywhere I'm needed, right, and that would be as ReGenesis
right as ReGenesis?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah? Okay, cool? And how long have you been doing
the the psychic media markets? Two years? Two years seems
like a lot longer, doesn't it cool, It seems like
a heck of a lot longer. And we've got a
beautiful following.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, when I say great readers, it's not just like
me talking myself up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's like they're they're genuine. You need to come and
meet these wonderful women for sure. And I'm not anti men, no, no, no,
no men have opplied. It's no, no, it would totally
get that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And then as far as when when you're reading for somebody,
you you say you look in their eyes right like
you doing.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
The team right now. But you and you know everything.
So I mean, it's just you know anyways, it's all good.
It's all good. I come in peace. I'm not evil
that I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But but in any event, so, can you tell us
any prolific readings that you've done? Uh?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Of course with anonymity like you not names or anything,
but can you tell us what one of the most
pro pro prolific readings that convinced you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That there is more to this life that's convincing? Yeah,
I've always known, So that's if that's a tough question
for me.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Okay, you think that's why I was Yeah, yeah, okay,
So I guess like as far as like when you've
worked with people, what, what's one of the stories that
sticks out in.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Your mind that you help connect people with somebody that
they've lost. There's so many huh is it okay if
I use cuss words? Yeah, oh yeah, hello, we're all
about this okay. So I was doing an event in Canora.
It w a lady wanted to connect.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
With her sister who had crossed over Kay, but her.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Mother cames wrote.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Oh and during that reading, we found out her mother
was the reason her sister had passed.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So that was quite the situation. That's pretty heavy.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
It was very very heavy, especially at a psychic market,
not like I don't read in my own.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Markets for that reason. And she actually caused.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Things on my table to fly across the room and
kind of think everybody go of silence.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Wow, so everybody believed. If you didn't believe, you believed
in that moment, of course, of course. But at cours
I slivery I just knocked it off the table and
grow it across the room just to keep everything cope.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
With that salute, yeah, and then I could have to
be calm and of course, of course I'll like me
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
But I mean it.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I guess when people come to see you and if
they were wanting to connect with somebody from the other side,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Foreclosure if anything, right, not like what was the lost
code to the banks for.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Reading and not nothing like sad And sometimes there has.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Been quite a few murder That's why I spent a
lot of time in northwestern Ontario is to help with
the closure of that, because.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
There's a lot of unanswered questions. Oh okay, interesting, mm
al right, okay, so we'll take the heat off you
for now. For now you're not quite off the hook.
But so now we have Linda, and do you wanna
excre big clat for Linda?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
So tell us all about yourself. Where when did it
all start for you? When did you realize you had gifts?
And when did you start working on that?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
Yeah, it started at a young age as well. Uh So,
my mother's grandmother was known to be a witch.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
They were from Henry, so.
Speaker 9 (09:44):
My mom grew up with her in the house. When
you got go go closer, my mom had lots of
crazy stories.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
That we heard growing up. Booked, just very open and
interested in my mom was fearful, but I think that really.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Kind of opened the door to know there was more
going on.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
And had a lot of strange exper er aunts as
a kid, and.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
So I knew my intuition was really strong. Didn't really
know what was going on, you know, had some fearful things,
Scared of the.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Dark, scared of closets and years at night, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 11 (10:12):
But in twenty twelve I took the leap and started
reading Terry and.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That really helped with the intuition.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
And in twenty seventeen with t BC Google Spiritual Center
even know what I was looking for.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
I found the Spiritualist Church and I didn't even know
there was such a thing and run by mediums and
started attending and realized that it was spirit that was
talking to me, that it was so normal that I
didn't realize that's what was happening.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And I was hooked.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
So from there I just took so many workshops.
Speaker 11 (10:41):
Classes that I could, and yeah, back in Manitoba, I
was a student instern.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
Spiritualist Church for a year and a half in BC
and now back in Manitoba and working giving readings, teaching.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I love That's where.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
Ay and I both worked out of there, and I
love health and other people.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
Kind of tune into their own intuition, psychic and medianistic abilities.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Okay, cool, and you got another cool story though. You
were saying that you lived in Mexico for a little while.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yes, I lived in.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Mexico for sixteen years. My husband's Mexican fun fact, which
is when Mexicans talk about the noise which is made.
Speaker 11 (11:19):
You know, we have a catholi.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
You're there, it's naka yacka, yacka.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's the sound, which is that's God's creepy. Yeah it is,
that's creepy. Okay, yeah kay yeah, gay.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah yeah wow.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
So yeah, married to a Catholic Mexican.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh it was over.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh talking interestingly and what did you did.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
You learn much when you were there about the spiritualism
and stuff in Mexico or they don't really get a.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
Little bit, but I didn't really know that's what was
happening to me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, time.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
I've always been interested in war and readers. Every house
we lived in it was contented.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
There was spirit I mean.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Because it's such an old country and the homes are
so old, so there was always something going on.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
In the house, which was interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right, Yeah, Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And as far as like the gifts that you have
to help connect with people, do you have any interesting
stories on how it comes together for you or how
you were able to help somebody.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Yeah, you know what, it just every time it's different.
It's just been learning that to let it come, and
every time it's different. I tell my clients it's like
learning is another language, playing charades.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
And putting puzzle pieces together. So you just kind of
got to figure it out. But you know, one story
that really stands out is I had a reading coming and.
Speaker 10 (12:31):
I always sit and open before the reading and give
myself or going to a meditative state.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I had a.
Speaker 11 (12:38):
Large indigenous man come through with beautiful black hair and.
Speaker 10 (12:42):
No shirt on, and that was the first time I've
been we were a spirit came in with getting clothes
on and he was massive, and.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
I was kind of is this a guy?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is this a loved one?
Speaker 11 (12:53):
And so then the woman came in and I told her,
I've got to tell you, there's this man that's been
waiting for you. I'll turned out who was an exploit
for him past thirteen years previously. Oh yeah, And didnt
really stands out because I've never had spirit come through
with a clothes before.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Was that what she was looking for?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Was that?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Or was her ex boyfriend or just to anybody?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No, she was looking for for someone.
Speaker 9 (13:14):
Else specifically, but she was happy to hear from him too.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
Okay, So yeah, I find that I often get really
random spirits coming through and that you haven't thought of.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
It a long time.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I was just gonna say that was like my other question,
Like I guess when you're when you're connecting with people
on the other side and people are looking for I
wanna find Joe Anderson, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, I know that's not how it goes, but
I mean when people come to you looking for that one.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Specific person, like I mean, you can't really deliver, you know,
Like that's a tough So I.
Speaker 10 (13:46):
Always tell them to keep an open mind as to
who's gonna come through.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
It might not be who you want to hear it from,
but it's what what you need to.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hear, gotcha.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
If they are looking for someone.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Specific, I will usually work off of a photograph and
I that to be very very helpful in bringing them through.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
It's one of the exact science.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Doesn't always work that way, but I usually start off
letting spirit take the lead and kind of a guy who's.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Gonna come through?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
What what is syney to your just because like you know,
when you get to a certain age, like I'm kind
of old, so when you get to a certain age,
a lot of people are dead now, and it's just
like there's a lot of people I really don't wanna
see or talk to cause I'm still angry with some people.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So it's just like that'd be like the last person
on my list, you know what I mean, Like probably
your uh, that's not gonna work out. Well.
Speaker 11 (14:32):
Usually they've done some work on the other side and
they're coming through to show that.
Speaker 9 (14:36):
There's some feeling happening okay, and to make amends right,
And it's maybe just a quick message just to kind
of ease in the door.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh the next time, like a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
But that's usually really okay, you know, not that third
grade teacher that sent me to the corner every week.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You know what I'm saying, Like I don't wanna see
him anymore.
Speaker 11 (14:52):
Yeah, well I can't anymore. Just getting out I always
the people I know I'm going back in your memory
bank and the drop of that right, And it doesn't
always work right.
Speaker 9 (15:01):
I often get emails later saying, oh my god, I
totally know what you're talking about. Now I know who
that person was and they couldn't place it in the moment.
Speaker 11 (15:08):
Oh kay.
Speaker 9 (15:08):
I had one reading where I.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
Was back in this when it's teenage years. I could
see the girls she was hanging out with.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I told her if you were in a bookstore, you know.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
The bookstore owner, and she couldn't place it.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What turned out was the bookstore was a library.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
So I just get the information.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Sure.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
But now, but when she got home, it came together
and she said, people don't know how I didn't tuned
you together.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But you know, kind in the moment you're thinking you want.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Someone else and someone random comes in, right, it's hard
to switch gears and and kind of build that direction.
So it's but three when that happens, that's the best evidence.
And for sure they weren't even thinking of that person who.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And maybe to take that a little bit further, say
say if somebody came to seeking uh to connect with
somebody that's passed, and do you ever find that after
you've done the reading for somebody and then all of
a sudden something happens after the session and then that
person shows up or you get other messages.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Have they ever had that like after it's done.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Nope, Nope.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Once I've done, I kind of close the doors and
okay goes off, so that the so the spirit's not.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
With me, they're with who never came in for the
reading buttually with them Okay No.
Speaker 10 (16:15):
So, like you know, you kind of have to have
boundaries and barriers and rules otherwise you get crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You never sleep.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
No, an you knows, like if you see the Tracy
who don't I don't walk into a grocery store a
lot you know why your grandfather's with you?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, that would be unethical.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Yeah, but what you don't see is they're probably having
them fu sign a disclaimer and telling them what's going on.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
And say, I'm that a connect with the loved one, right,
so it it does?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, I'd be exhausted if I walked around like yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Like I I wonder about those shows because for all
the stuff that they film, there's so much that's probably
only like ten percent of what they've filmed, because you know,
just to be able to get that specific all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So do you got any questions? Ash? Do you think
of any questions? All right? Isn't a good place.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
She's waiting on some very very important phone call. Yeah, yeah, so,
and any.
Speaker 11 (17:11):
Spirit works so many different ways. It's you know, we
call it the claires. And sometimes I see them, sometimes
I feel them.
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Sometimes I just know things.
Speaker 11 (17:19):
M You know, one time I knew that the person
in spirit had to take me on it, but do
I could feel it. I don't know what that feels like,
but I knew that's what I was feeling.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
You know, in chime, I knew someone in the spirit
was eating and I mean like an apple because I
could taste it or I could. I knew that they
like chewing toback. Well I've never tasted that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But I knew that's what was in my mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
So it's just bringing through the evidence exactly as you
get it and not trying to get in your head
to figure it out because it's not from its rights
for them. So they if I get in the way,
I can buddle.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Up the message friend so easily.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
So it's just about giving what you net.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Do you, ladies, ever recall at any given time any
important messages.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That you were able to late. Was there ever a
time there an important?
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I was just gonna say that they're.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
All important, like oh yeah, no, no, I'm not minimizing
by any means, but I'm just saying like I, you know,
like I guess when somebody comes to you and and
then they're looking for something, mm closure.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
I not a young man, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Think he'd ever been from reading before.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
And his grandfather came through who he had not known.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
So when they don't know them, it's hard cause we
were at to break through the evidence.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
So he didn't know a lot about his grandfather.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
So his grandfather was showing me that he was concerned
with how he ate, he would stand in his culture.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And snark his food.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
And so the grandfather was.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Showing me his apartment and how he was using. So
I told him that, and uh, I freaked him out
on the little that I think he thought I was fine. So,
how do you know what my apartment looks aage?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh that's interesting I'm making. So that's proof right there.
I mean, that's you know, bang on it exactly. Yeah,
for sure, there's probably a lot of them, like how
do you know were were you surfing? My Facebook. Were
you doing all these things?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 11 (19:06):
You just know yup?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And we don't question the why once like going that
why right? Else this is ma's been sailing.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
And then so when you say that, you know you
have to close yourself off so that nobody else, you know,
comes through after the fact, when when you're reading for
somebody and and working with somebody for yourself and your
personal life, Like, I guess you have to protect yourself too, right.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like, yeah, cause if it comes through all the time
for you, that would drive it crazy. So I'm a
different from you that way.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm up in all the time.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
No, and I've dried all the tools, all the things
they said, but I think might be just supposed to
come at night, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So yeah, So yeah, it's a it's a very much.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
I mean, I'm a bunch of people and you're gount
with you and your partner.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they're not all that's worth. It's not.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's not the kind of No, it's not the kind
of fun you're a No, I don't know, nobody needs
an audience, no for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
And yeah, cause I would imagine like even if you.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Know how your mind just you're just kind of like
I'm neutral, and you're going.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
On with your day and thoughts pop in your head
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I can imagine for you, ladies, what you have to,
you know, really disconnect yourself because like say, if you're
like it's not feeling well, or if you're sick, right
and you're kind of like low vibration, right, you gotta
really be really protect yourself.
Speaker 9 (20:28):
Could you have to discern if it's yours for somebody's
like somebody.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Else is in that very hard right?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Even the word for you.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
If I'm doing a reading, I assume that everything I
get while I'm doing the rating is.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
For the recipient, Okay, And if I'm not.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
If I'm going about my day and a STEM and
I feel something, I'll usually tune.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
In and kind of ask my guide what's going on
do I need to be aware of? But for me,
I feel a little different and spirituous. So you hear
my elbow gets pulled, I was like, am I feel
on my right elbow?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That's cool?
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, So that's when I sits there and I feel
a bit of pressure back here.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So that's what I'll know, and I'll kind.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
Of open up and see what's going.
Speaker 12 (21:05):
On is there something that I need to be alerted to.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Right, And you were saying before too, you meditate, You
meditate before session?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Is that how you?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Centric? Yeah, yeah, I uh.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I do a meditation called sitting in the power, which
is for the kind of development of our abilities.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It was brought to us by spirit.
Speaker 12 (21:23):
Okay, and so it's to kind of that connection and
have them draw close. Oh so it gets me in
the right frame of mic. So even if I, you know,
way in like I don't really wanna do rating today.
I'm feeling tired the minute I do that meditation.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
On my vibrations up there.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Also, it's about raising that vibration, right, I've heard about
that before, Like, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
A little vibration, my vibration.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, that's a good question. How do how do you prepare?
I just jump right in. That sounds dangerous, but that's
always how I've done. Yeah. So I would think if anything,
if you were ever in a location that was haunted,
like knowing haunted, I would think they got on all
(22:04):
that as energy, right, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So Amy,
I think we should share how you and I met.
This is a good story.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You go first, you want me to go first, Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So uh it was shortly after I had started with
the group and.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We were doing a talk out at the Gimbli Iceland
up Museum and Amy came.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Out to you know, listen to us, let figure out
if I could trust you. Yeah, And she ended up
coming up to me after the talk was over and
she's like, oh, hey, like, you know, do you guys
ever do out of town investigations?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
And I'm like, yeah, I don't see why not?
Speaker 11 (22:48):
You know what you got.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
She's like, oh, well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh I might message you guys.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm like, alright, that's cool.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Then she ended up messaging us through our email, and
like I said, I had just started.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
So the Amy's case was my very first case that
I got to take the lead on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And so she messaged us and and You're like, you know,
I've got some stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I live the Winnipeg Beach.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, she mane had a lot of stuff.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You had a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, you know, can you guys like come out and
meet with us and meet me and and you know,
come investigate my house and part of our procedures that
we like to meet the client first and kind of
get a feel for the house and you know, walk
through the house, see the layout, decide on the side
of the team and things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We don't just jump into an investigation.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So but because you were so far away, we've decided
that we were gonna meet in Winnape cause you were
coming in for something.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think I came up in for another investigation that.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
The hot girl.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Maybe it was.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
So we met at as Importons and we get into
it and I'm like, okay, so like you know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
First of you know, question is like, well, what's your address?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And you give it to me it and my face
just went like completely white, and Kelly took over the
rest of.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
The interview.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
And I don't think I said anything.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
She would have point it was after investigating.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, So I called my mom and I'm like, this
is gonna sound really really weird, but what is nanny's.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Address out of the cabin And it turned out that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was the same house that Amy was in.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So Amy was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Living in my grandmother's previous cabin, so I kind of yeah,
it was it was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
There's a reason that this was my case.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, we were able to go out and I brought
all of these old pictures of the cabin from like thirty.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Years for years prior me as a baby crawling around in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
The house, and you got my daughter to look at it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, she was the one having the.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Most experiences in the house.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So it sound like when the spirit comes to see me,
like through mediumship. This was this was out of control.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Yeah, I couldn't see this figure, but my daughter could.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And we thought she was going a little bit weep if.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You cause she wasn't.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
She wasn't no, but yeah, so we like cleared up
to the information cause you didn't think.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Anybody had died in the home, and I was able
to confirm that there was unknown death, which was my uncle.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Uh in my kitchen, in your kitchen yuh wow.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So it was really interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Experience, like how spirit connects different people, which you never
know until you actually meet them.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
While you're meeting them, but there's always reason and it
was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
It was you did find other spirits in them home,
though we did.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There was actually quite a bit of a day that
then or something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But we're close to the water.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So it's yeah, there's I've a lot of transition in there.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
It was really eating like that. It was and your
uncle Suil's eyes in the home.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It wouldn't surprise me if they loved.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
It over there, and then you people who lived there
just let things happen instead.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Of being freaked out about it. Oh that's so it's
just stuff moving in the kitchen.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Pictures, dancing, Ah, that kind of stuff, typical every day stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yea, that's always fun.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So that's how we.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Meved typical every day stone in my own.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Have you have you helped people when they they're both
to transition over have you?
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
So I'm also a spiritual healer, so well, I had
helped people.
Speaker 11 (26:42):
When they'd gotten close to transition during transition, sending them healing.
I've had experiences with helping spirits that were stuck don't crossover.
Sometimes it's rare, but it does happen. Sometimes your hanger
Fi stated on something on this song.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
I uh so they don't know that they passed on
and it didn't happen.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
So I'll I'll tell you when I was kind of
a bizarre story when I was first going down this
radical into mediumship. I had a a girlfriend in BC
who's a meeting and we're right on the car or
development was.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
The same, So we practiced a lot together.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And I was nervous in the beginning to do readings.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
You know, to have people sitting there staring at me.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
So i'd do photo readings and work.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
With that, and i'd write it.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Down and send it to people.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And my girlfriend had had a meditation.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
With the young man who had crashed his motorbike, and
she's like, it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't know where they came in.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
So I was doing the week later, I was doing uh.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
A photo reading for a woman and I had a
young man on a motorbike and I.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Could see that crash.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
She was standing in the highway and I sent her
the information that she couldn't take it. She had no
idea of who he was, okay, And so I told
my friend and she's like, that's who was a home meditation.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I'm like, that's so weird.
Speaker 9 (27:57):
So we didn't know what was going on when we
were new, you know, mediumship journey.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So we took it to the.
Speaker 11 (28:01):
Spiritualist Church to ended at our experience medium and she's similar,
it's someone that nats your.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Help, any that the TT you of would talk about
it and get helped, and he needs help crossing over.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
He was in a tragic accident and didn't realize that
it uh when it happened to it kind of stuck.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, so that was really freaky in the beginning, m
some heat experience.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So you think he he didn't cross over cause he
didn't realize he was dead, or he just refused.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
To be Yeah, I hears that he was.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I think he didn't realize what had happened and and
missed the window with the white light was a little
bit stuck.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Got to the.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Trauma and the tragedy of the accident day of dam.
I mean, I'm no expert by any means, but we've
we've spoken with so many people, and we've done so
many stories.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We've covered so many different scenarios in that. And I
always find or feel, you know, when people don't cross over,
if they're still here and they're they're not gone, it's
either maybe because something sudden and traumatic happened, or you know,
just maybe somebody's just so bitter, you know, because you know, you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Get the poltergeist and stuff that caused all the shit
to happen, right, Like I mean, you know, it's not
that they want to be here, it's just they don't
know any better.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
They just don't know, right, Like you know, I mean
even for example, not not to sound gross or whatever,
I had a friend who committed suicide and it was
as probably as like a fifth or sixth attempt.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
And this was like always a drug overdose up until then.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
They were always able to pump the stomach and after
a few days set him on his merry way. But
you know, at that point it went too far, and
we basically sat there and watched him die for three
days in the hospital as the drugs were eating him
from the inside out because they were it was too
too long, they couldn't pump the stomach and all that.
So in saying that, I could see it in his
(29:44):
eyes and I could feel it like he kept wanting
to leave, He kept wanting to go, like you know,
he tried it.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
It didn't work cause he always thought, I guess it was.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Instant, and it wasn't instant like you know, drugs like
it's not.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, And and I just felt like I just felt
he wasn't ready to go, like he's not like he
couldn't communicate anymore, and just a look in his eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like he was not gonna go, you know, And I
I and I I believe he's probably still there for
what that's worth, you know, in the hospital somewhere, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Ironically, Uh a year later, Uh, my mother died in
the same hospital A bit in er, which is low
for me.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But uh but I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Aside from that, I just I just find that when
people don't cross over like you know, it's tragedy or
even like they just refuse to believe they're dead.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
And I don't think for for this fellow, I I
don't think he he just thought it was just like
one of the other five or six times, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, it could be. And sometimes spirals of that.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And finish business right, just miserable.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
A yes, sometimes it's been miserable and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Uh, they don't wanna go in it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is theyre house stold, you know.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Mentally experiences with those some with mental helps some of
the mental
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Health which hichem s
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