July 15, 2025 • 37 mins
'Spirits with Spirits' Kings Head Pub - The Dalnavert Museum June 25, 2025 Part 1 Episode 211
We've were invited Back!!!!! 'Spirits with Spirits' series at the infamous King's Head Pub located at 120 King St., Winnipeg, MB.
Joined by Ashley from The Winnipeg Paranormal Group, we had an amazing crowd 77 Beautiful Spooky & Creepy Cool people come out and join us! HUGE SHOUT OUT AND THANK YOU TO THE KING'S HEAD PUB!!!
In the first Part of the evening, we were joined by a Special Guest from The Dalnavert Museum - Lauren! She shared some haunted experiences that have been known to happen at the 140 Year Old former home to Sir Hugh John MacDonald (son of the First Prime Minister of Canada, John A. MacDonald) and his family. Oh....and John as well as his son Jack also passed away at their house on Carleton. The hauntings that were seen and heard in the house were reported from visitors as well as volunteers and tour guides they have worked in the house for years!
The house has a long and complicated history. Being built in 1895, it is one of the first - 11 houses in Winnipeg that had electricity and running water inside the house. Once the Gertie MacDonald sold the home, all the possessions and furnishings were sold off, as she went to live in the very affulent 'Rosalyn Apartments' (Also known to be VERY haunted} Then it became a rooming house for 20 - 40 years, till it was left to sit vacant until it was rescued and meticalously restored by 'The Friends of the Dalnavert'.
If you are in the Winnipeg area - make sure you come out for the next 'Spirits with Spirits' as The King's Head Pub has invited us back! I guess we behaved pretty well then! lol. Next event is July 30, 2025 - 7 to 9 PM. .
Also check out The Superstitious Times – Explore the Lore for our interview about our 'Spirits with Spirits' event!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
We've were invited Back!!!!! 'Spirits with Spirits' series at the infamous King's Head Pub located at 120 King St., Winnipeg, MB.
Joined by Ashley from The Winnipeg Paranormal Group, we had an amazing crowd 77 Beautiful Spooky & Creepy Cool people come out and join us! HUGE SHOUT OUT AND THANK YOU TO THE KING'S HEAD PUB!!!
In the first Part of the evening, we were joined by a Special Guest from The Dalnavert Museum - Lauren! She shared some haunted experiences that have been known to happen at the 140 Year Old former home to Sir Hugh John MacDonald (son of the First Prime Minister of Canada, John A. MacDonald) and his family. Oh....and John as well as his son Jack also passed away at their house on Carleton. The hauntings that were seen and heard in the house were reported from visitors as well as volunteers and tour guides they have worked in the house for years!
The house has a long and complicated history. Being built in 1895, it is one of the first - 11 houses in Winnipeg that had electricity and running water inside the house. Once the Gertie MacDonald sold the home, all the possessions and furnishings were sold off, as she went to live in the very affulent 'Rosalyn Apartments' (Also known to be VERY haunted} Then it became a rooming house for 20 - 40 years, till it was left to sit vacant until it was rescued and meticalously restored by 'The Friends of the Dalnavert'.
If you are in the Winnipeg area - make sure you come out for the next 'Spirits with Spirits' as The King's Head Pub has invited us back! I guess we behaved pretty well then! lol. Next event is July 30, 2025 - 7 to 9 PM. .
Also check out The Superstitious Times – Explore the Lore for our interview about our 'Spirits with Spirits' event!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hello everybody. Hello, Hello, we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So we're just gonna get going here. Thank you for
your patience and thank you for coming out. Look at
all you beautiful, spooky, crazy, creepy people.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My name is Jazz and I'm with giving Up the
Ghost Podcast. I can't see you, so I'm just gonna
pretend you're there with my lovely co host.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hi everybody, I'm Ashley. I'm from Winnipeg Paranormal Group. Thank
you so much for coming out. Like Jazz said, we
really appreciate it and love to see all your creepy faces.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So just to familiarize, as I do every time, my
name again is Jazz. I'm with giving Up the Ghost Podcast.
We're Winnipeg's first and only paranormal podcast. We've been doing
this six and a half years, six and a half years.
Thank you. It's a you know, considering it's like a
glorified hobby. There's no money in podcasting, so in saying that,
(01:52):
we do it because we like it. We're interested, we're curious,
we want to know more, and we want to know
more about Winnipeg and Manitoba specifically. That's why I had
the idea and I approached my partner's share saying, hey,
you know all those stories you'd hear when you were
a kid about that haunted house on Euclid or you
know wherever it be. You don't you lose these things?
(02:13):
They go, they disappear. We all know the Fort Gary Hotel,
we all know the CN station, we all know Burton
Cummings Theater, like you know, those are the gnomes right,
the doll of Nark.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But I mean, we wanted to keep the legacy going
of little unknown ghost stories and haunted stories of Winnipeg
and Manitoba. So that's what we emphasize on We are
downloaded in forty three countries.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What else can I throw at you to raz and
dazzle you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We are quite commonly on feedspot dot COM's top ten
best Canadian paranormal podcasts. Thank you, and again, we make
no money at this. This is a glorified hobby. So
and saying that we have two hundred and six, two
hundred and eight episodes.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now on spreaker dot com. We're on Spotify, We're on Apple,
We're pretty much everywhere that you can find podcasts if
you Google.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Giving up the Ghost Podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that's us, that's what we are, that's what we do.
We drink and swear a little bit too, but I
mean that just adds to the charm and takes the
edge off because we do speak talk about some pretty spooky, crazy,
creepy stuff. So that's my intros to who we are
for the podcast, and I'll just swing it over to
Ash so she can give you a little insight into
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what the wonderful, beautiful people at the Winnipeg Paranormal Group.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Do for us.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Thank you so Winnipeg Paranormal Group.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
We have been around since two thousand and nine. We
focus primarily on client investigations, so a lot of people
will email us or reach out to us events like
this and let us know that they have activity in
their home and their needing some help with it, and
then we'll go out and investigate and see what we're
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able to find for them evidence wise. We also host
spirits with spirits with Giving Up the Ghost, of course,
and we also host public events where you guys get
to come out to a haunted location and we teach
you how to use our tools and you get to
investigate that haunted location with us. So just a little
(04:26):
plug here. We've got a couple events coming up. We
have one at the Dellniver which is sold out unfortunately, fortunately,
but unfortunately. We also have one at the Saint James
Historical Museum of Saint James it's Sina Boia, as well
as the Seven Oaks host Museum that are coming up
and still have tickets available, so you can find those
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on our Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But yeah, so we're here for you, guys. That's what
we want to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
As I said, that's our primary focus, whether it is
to help you deal with whatever's in your home or
to pique your curiosity.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Precisely perfect and tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Last last month actually was our first time at the
King said thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
If we can have a round of applause for the King,
said Bob. They are giving us this location, this creepy
cool location because it's haunted.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So that was last month.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
But we're not gonna we're not gonna talk about the past.
We're not we're not gonna look in the rearview mirror.
Just if you see something here or you feel something here,
please let us go. So aside from that, we have
a special guest tonight from the Dolivert Museum.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Has anybody been to the Delnavert so Hans.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Excellent, excellent, So as you know that place is haunted
as well, and Ashley said they have that coming up
as one of their tours and we are lucky enough
to have somebody representing the museum to come out tonight
and tell us some of their creepy, cool stories.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So hand up, hands together for Lauren.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So before we get into the lovely stories that she's
accumulated with respects to hauntings and spirits and all that
good stuff, I'm just going to give you a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Little background Like histories.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And hauntings go hand in hand, and that's what we
always say.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So, I mean, you know, we've.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Had a lot of success before we talk about a
place that's haunted while you're there and you bring up
names and stuff, trigger i mean, we're not the doll tonight,
but just to give.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You a little background history on why it's haunted, and
it's just it's been around for so long. It's a
beautiful building, beautiful house. So basically it was built in
eighteen ninety five, the dl no No Art Museum. It's a
small Victorian mansion and it's Nestled in the heart of
Winnipeg's downtown.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This unique museum features.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
A day of the life feel as it transports you
back in time to the nineteenth century the second you
step in it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It was home to former.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Manitoba Premier, police magistrate and lawyer suit Sir Hugh John McDonald,
who was the son of Sir John A. McDonald and
his family. Dalnarverg Museum and Visitors Center is a National
historic site that is one of the finest examples in
Western Canada of the Queen Anne Revival architecture. Today, the
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museum foster's engagement in history, culture, and much more so.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
This was from their website.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm not you know, I'm pretty I'm a good wordsmith,
but you know this is Slick's.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Promotional stuff here.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
This is really worded nicely.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The Dalnaverg Museum was built in eighteen ninety five on
Treaty one land.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Also, let's see where.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What we got here.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
After Hugh John McDonald passed away, he left all of
his homes belonging to Agnes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I thought it was Hetty.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
What was she Gerty right? Or Gertrude right? And then
after he passed and they got rid of all the
belongings in the house. She then moved to the Rosalind
apartments on Osborne Street that's very haunted as well. So
all this connection, right, I mean, really like, come on,
everything's haunted in the city. But it's just kind of
cool to make the connect the dots, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So what happened then after the house.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Was sold off, the people who owned the house then
transformed it into a boarding.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And rooming house, and in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Sixty nine it was sold to a development company. The
development company intended to make the grounds into.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
A parking lot.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh my god, that would have been just brutal. But
in the nineteen seventies, the Manitoba.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Historical Society, together with several historical activists, worked with the
development company and made numerous offers to buy the house
and ultimately succeeding. Working with the City of Winnipeg and
other organizations, the Manitoba Historical Society attained grants to restore
the home.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
John Shivers and George.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Walker led the restoration, which costs roughly five hundred and
fifty nine thousand dollars and took several.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Years to complete. In twenty thirteen, the Mantoba Historical Society
closed the doors of the museum, spring a group of
dedicated and passionate individuals to create Friends of the Daln
Art Museum.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This newly formed a nonprofit organization, assumed ownership and was
able to reopen the dal Museum in the spring of
twenty fifteen. So that's a little bit part. I won't
get into the art architectural part.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of it, which is pretty cool. I'm a bit of
a nerd. I'll tell you a little bit though about
Actually this is where Ashley comes in and I get
a breather. Here's some early years with respects to Hugh
John McDonald and his family.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So Sir Hugh John McDonald inherited his father's physical characteristics.
He had a small billed, British brown hair, clear blue eyes,
and the infamous prominent McDonald mills. He also grew up
to have his father's charm and easy attitude. McDonald's name
was supposed to be that of his older brother, John
Alexander McDonald Junior, who.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Passed away two years before his birth.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Isabella, Hugh John's mother begged for the name, but lost
the argument with Sir John A. McDonald's family and settled
with Hugh John McDonald. He grew up in Kingston in Toronto.
His father, the first Prime Minister, became the Attorney General
of Ontario and was often absent during McDonald's childhood. McDonald
played at his neighbor's most days, and his mother was
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bedridden due to deteriorating health. When his father was home,
the two cherished their time together, often playing cards in
the evening.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's a little driving.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
At seven years old, Hugh John's mother passed away, so
McDonald was sent to live with his uncle and aunt,
James Williamson and Margaret Williamson, who he viewed as his parents.
As he grew older, McDonald became interested in military service
and served on several occasions, but because of his father's
military life was short or what but because of his
father his military life.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Was short lived.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
In eighteen seventy two, McDonald was called to the bar,
and after that he begrudgingly practiced law with him his father,
Do you want to do it?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You can get right to them.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, let's get right to the book.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Get to the meat and potatoes.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
We're gonna we want care.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know this betterals, I'm thorough, I'm thorough. What can
I say a.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Little bit of his career.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So in nineteen eleven he was appointed as a magistrate
in Winnipeg. In nineteen twelve, he became Knight Bachelor of
the Bath and was given the right to be called
Sir Hugh John McDonald's. In nineteen seventeen, he challenged the
Board of Police Commissioners and refused to allow the police
you need to be allied with the Winnipeg Trades and
Labor Council. In nineteen eighteen, he voted to instruct the
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Chief of Chief Constable to interrogate all members of the
police force. In nineteen nineteen, was at the frontline against
Winnipeg General Strike. He viewed the strike as a revolutionary movement.
In nineteen twenty five, he turned seventy five and celebrated
his birthday with special meetings put up.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
On by the Police Commissioners.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Nineteen twenty seven, he made his last appearance on behalf
the Conservative Party and was carried to a platform to
address the National Liberal Conservative Leadership Convention. In nineteen twenty eight,
he resumed duties in the courtroom after recovering from his
first leg infection. Nineteen twenty nine, he retired as magistrate
on March second. So his wife, Agnes Gertie was known
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for her extravagant events and floral decorations around the down
the verse. Lady MacDonald was the daughter of Oh, I'm
gonna pacher that as J Van Kuna.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
How do I say that?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Couvenaught Ben Cornett, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Who worked with Sir John A.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
MacDonald.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Agnes married Hugh John on April twenty sixth, eighteen eighty three,
in Toronto and year lea later.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
A year later they had their son Jack.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Jack is pivotal.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So again we're just telling you all this stuff because
they had quite the posh lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
With Gertie.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not only was she a busy socialite, but she had
a great impact on Hugh John's political life, and according
to letters Hugh John wrote to the Prime Minister Charles Tupper,
Agnes nudged him to advance his political career and even
convinced him to getting knighted good for her behind every
good man is a good woman. So she had some
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health issues as well, and she had two strokes, so
the family had hired in house nurse named Hattie for her,
and Hattie took care of my grandparents and family for
years as Hugh Gainsford, Agnes's grandson.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So Hugh John had.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
A daughter from the first marriage, which was Isabella Daisy Mary,
but there was also Jack and Jack lived in the
house up until his death. And he actually died from
diabetes because back in the day, I'm just looking for
the dates.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Back in the day, it wasn't treatable.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So unfortunately, Jack was diagnosed with diabetes as a child,
which was difficult to treat during the Victorian era since
there was no cure or proper treatment to manage. So
in the effort to curb his suffering, the McDonald's took
Jack on several trips to help.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Him from various medical communities. I'm still looking for the
death date.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Here, here we go.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He was actually very educated though too, just to throw
that in there, but he returned to Winnipeg after one semester.
Later in life, like his father and grandfather, Jack had
his eye on lag He had studied at the University
of Manitoba, but he died before he could finish his degree.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
His funeral was held at All Saints Anglican Church. To
look at that.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Nineteen o five?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you, Thank me so Jack passed in the house,
and so did Hugh John unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So maybe at this point we can probably turn the
mic over to cause we're talking about death. We can
turn the mic over to.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Lauren and she can tell us of some uh other
worldly occurrences that have happened in the Donmark Museum and
witness by people, and I'll him mic over to her.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Hi, everyone, so I'm here as the representative in the
donna Ert Museum.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Thank you, said so.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Donaverert Museum's interesting.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
History has made it so that a lot of our
guests and volunteers have experienced interesting or.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Unexplainable things within the house.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Some of the more frequent experiences that we've seen as
footsteps when no one's in the home, particularly in the
upstairs while someone's working downstairs, or hearing voices speaking, or
especially smelling perfumes and tobacco throughout the house in different
portions of the house. Some many different tour guides haven't
described walking to a room and smelling tobacco after the
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house has been empty for hours, and things.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Of the sort.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
We've I sent out a message to all of our
volunteers out of curiosity before I came on to see
if anyone had any interesting stories that they liked the share,
and we got a few emails and responses, the main
one being one of our main volunteers. He's been with
us for several years now. His grandmother was actually a
cook for the McDonald's in the early twentieth century for
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about five years, and he described his experience in the
home of seeing things fly off shelves very frequently when
he would be reading alone waiting for guests to visit,
or times where he would come downstairs after being alone
in the house and seeing the oven doors be open,
which if you haven't been into the museum up and
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is a giant, industrial, two ton monster of a thing.
So it's very hard to get that door open and
closed on its own.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And for other stories.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here we've had described a visions or seeing figures throughout
the home.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't know if you want me to get full into.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Stories right now or yeah for sure. Yeah, So I
got a few write out the stories sent in.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
One email was from one volunteers, a Laura So she
says that during the summer of twenty twenty three, while
working as a tour guide, she felt that the house
carried a particular stillness, and during a typical tour in
the warm late afternoon, I had a small group of
guests with me, and as I climbed the stairs to
the main staircase, I paused to stop at the top
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landing to gesture towards the master's bedroom, and as I
explained it, something tugged my attention and I turned my
eyes and towards the attic stairs.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There was a woman.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
It was the impression of a woman dressed in a
white eighteen ninety style gown. Her figure was faint, almost translucent,
but there was no mistaking the of the stress. While
she was gliding, not walking, down the attic staircase, and
without acknowledging me or the group turned down the back
hallway towards what would have been the servants quarters.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I froze briefly. No one seemed to notice.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
The guests had all turned to admire the master bedroom
and were unaware of anything. I hesitated debating telling them
what I'd seen, and I wondered if I imagined it,
but I felt like I know what I saw. After
the tour, I asked some of the other guides casually
if they ever noticed anything odd around the house, and
one looked at me and said they hadn't, but the
collections cured her said that she had felt spirits in
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the house. So that's one experience we've had from one
of our tour guides during a tour. Another we had
this was a comment we received of someone describing going
to the home and fainting once they reached Jack's room.
They described them as feeling as something went through them
before their body dropped and took.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Them a moment to collect themselves before they could come up.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
And we've had a lot of previous spooky events to
speak in the home over the years and lots of
different experiences through that. But one story we had was
from another volunteer who during a singans in the basement
as everyone exited, she built a rush to go through
her body and felt extreme nausea and had to go home.
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Another volunteer has described seeing a cat in the upstairs
window that vanished as soon as it appeared, and our
collections curator has had several experiences. She describes herself as
a sensitive and has said that she's had many experiences
of spirits in the home. She says that describes there
as being two men in the upstairs attic as well
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as one man living in the closet to Jack's room,
and she has described herself as being channeled through spirits
in the parlor during ghost tours as well, and has
described saying things that she felt was not herself saying them. Yeah,
those are some of the ghost stories we've received just
from our volunteers.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So with the podcast, we started in two thousand and
nineteen and we actually had the honor to be invited
to come.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Out our doors open and we recorded.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
At the Dollar Museum on the Branda, which was quite
the experience.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Some people we knew were feeling at like, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
The same glasses over the front door and you're very
handy there, apparently a little It's.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
A lot of people that we've talked to say they'd
feel like something's watching you whenever they make the entrance.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
To the front m We actually recorded some voices you
know back in those days were the whole podcasting again,
because this is all the.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Volunteer and you know what everybody we put into it.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Is just out of pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like these mics are nice now, uh, before we had
like one of the those snowball mics.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So it kind of re it kind of recorded everything
and we're on Branda. You didn't have very uh secluded
like you know, were reberation or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You kind of got everything, which was kind of good
because of the voices. I I recorded it off of
the older podcast. It was episode twenty one and twenty
two and here.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
One of the boy to listen to that. We mostly talked.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
About the history. I'm gone we tried to.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Hear and one of the cool things about the history,
just to mention about, you know the doc well River
is they had to recreate everything in the museum.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Correct, We had to create like because after.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The the household and girtyto and she sold.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Everything to bring it back to a museum.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Standpoint, because it was such a well documented house.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It was like at the time, I.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Think the groom was built in just eighteen minute above.
At the time, it was only one of eleven houses
in the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
App the whole city that actually had electrissing and running
water inside. So this house was documented from the get go,
and think it was thirty five hous dollars bill at
the time, and were because the proving of having all
this information of the house being documented on the star
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that they were able to go back to wonder the
pop Us archives when they were recreating the museum to
find is many pieces of welligborhood, you know, whether it's
like training or hunting, garage dealing, antiquing, and that's how
they basically recreated the museum. So everything in the museum
right now isn't necessarily anything that belonged to the McDonalds.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
There's a few original pieces, but we find yeah, a,
so there are a few original pieces, particularly in the parlor.
We have a china cabinet bel that belonged to Agnes,
and then we have two lauses as well as a
couple of ceramic figures.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Okay, so these were pieces.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
That were passed down through family that was donated back
to the museum which the construction was completed.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, very next, O good.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You got Bootsie Seer telling you real quickly when it
played for you the voices and said, we like to
joke around, we like to have a good time when
we're talking about series and goost all this kind of stuff.
I mean, we're order to trying to be fun of
anybody or anything per se.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
But we really pissed off three We missed off of those.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't want to miss off, you know, I don't
I suggest you don't do that. What just to be
a little.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Background history, we're talking about the history of the else
on uh.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
The words of Brenda. We were talking about how we,
you know, back in.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Those days, everything's so hash the best, the best spare
no sense.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And then the husband dies and she's left anyways, so
she's got a self everything off to try and recoup
some money, you know, because they didn't have like Little's
pension or any of.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
That back then, back in the day. But apparently she'd have.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A dog at some point that she loved her a
little love. And when that dog guy, she went and
had stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Because she thought it so mushed.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, I got sold during grow up soon or five
cents or pan bug cents.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It was a dog and the laugh thing and there
laughing and we're making fun.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
On the veranda, her veranda, and after we you know,
we make fun of it. You heard was and I said, byes, kid,
did I know?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I have to like replay that, Like as I'm editing
they are sitting in my Dargo offices like at night, some.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Editing, I'm like, oh my god, who was that, you know,
just shipping the hats.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And then there was another portion when I.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Was editing the recordings because you know, we're trying to
put on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do you want a business part? Do you want a
business part? People welcome by, Do you want a business part?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And I say that, and then you hear a little
ghost for go yes, yes, yes, So those were pretty
cool catches.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Then I would love to go back and report again,
so I can, you know, make Amand's with her.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
There's probably more spirits than just the McDonald's, you know,
because that's.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Who we know, that's who's there.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
But spirits are spirits, and there's transient spirits.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And it was a warning home for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know. Spirits is basically when you pass, your body goes.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
But you know, an energy is on because that's what
we are. Like energy is energy. It will continue on.
So maybe some people love living there or even just
visiting there or staying there, and maybe they gravitated to
go back. Who knows, right, So it's not necessarily maybe
the McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
However, they do say in the part they do smell
throo its perfume. I've heard that and Q John in
his study.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
SNAr smoke because he's you know, just smool cinars.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I've also heard late at many too, if you look
out at some point of sr passing, but you can
actually see either Jack looking at his bedroom window or
you can.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Actually even see you John looking out of the study.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So if you're then on to look one dark night
into the windows, I mean, don't don't go creeping on
the grounds.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
We don't promote trespasses.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Don't know the loves about them.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So in saying that they're in there a lot of
really cool think My my mother in law was now passed.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
She actually started the gift door when the dollar burt,
she built that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Up for them, working for a little bit.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
And she had even said she had stimed the cigar smoke.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And also she would run down to the bassi to.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Go grown stuff and then the service fell living, so
she'd run back up.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
But then it was and that was disconnected like six
years ago, so I mean there's still something there, that's
for sure. And if you have, you guys from living
for a number also captured some stuff like it was too.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Trick, like I'll go get my audio.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So several years back would say six seven years ago,
we were actually filming a sizzle reel at the down
Malt and it started out in the basement. One of
our investigators said that he felt like he was getting
a hug. So my partner, Kelly, who unfortunately is not
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here tonight, she took up over one of our tools
called a melmeter, took it over to him and it
was spiking on his back. Now, this device doesn't normally
spike like that like it's it measures electromagnetic feels, which
is kind of like what comes out of your well.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It is what comes out of your microwave.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right, That's why the always say don't stand in front
of your microwave.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
So there's absolutely no reason that this should have been
spiking on a human.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And then they started asking some questions to the ghost.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Box and they asked, you know, who's here with us,
and clear as day, like almost like they were standing
beside them, you heard Jack come through the ghost box,
so Jack is definitely in that house.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Probably said that. Well, I don't blame them, sure, I
mean that's the best family home. He was Sasha at
the time. Yeah, the choice of choice.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hopefully we'll get some more experiences kind of at the
beginning of July.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm just gonna see if we can play this audio.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I do apologize it's from computer to audio. I'm gonna
crank it up here and just gonna show you a
little bit of the conversation of us talking about the
Pug and we'll see if it plays, to see.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If this was right here. Okay, no, it didn't come.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
But anyway, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's on there, it's it's anyway. And then I'll just
see if I can. I'll see if I can show
you the little ghost Girl.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
This won't be as long. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
There that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
If you go back to the podcast, and if you
care to listen to it's episode twenty one two.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And you know you can make it louder and hear it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I don't have the original laptop anymore cause I was
like six years ago, so I I had to retrieve
it from the internet.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
I'm I'm again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We do this for free, and I have no tech people.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I am a tech.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
That says a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
So any more stars from now, I'm from Dalno.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, do you wanna give us some information from the
dollmert I in in general or in general?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, there regard of the dollmer.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
We actually our her normal event has sold outs already.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's duly worth coming up.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Or we are hoping to have a couple more events
similar over the summer.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
And speaking our.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Collections person is very.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Involved the uh spiritual in the hall and we'll kind
of talk without length, and we're hoping that.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
She will kind of give.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
A guided tours running the paranormal aspects of the home soon.
She has lots of thoughts on what and who who
isn't in the house, you know. She said that she
believes that there are two men upstairs in the attic,
one Indigenous one English.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Oh, and she describes there being an indigenous.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Man in the basement as well, okay, and a man
in Jack's closet as well. And previously when the show
was featured on a couple of different ghost hunting shows,
I believe it was how the name was gave to me.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I'm sorry I.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Should have written this down, but okay, we've had a
couple experience with them as well, describing experiences of just
a lot of sense of being overtaken in the house,
particularly in the basement right as well. That seems to
be a very popular space for that of the basement's
crazy to begin with.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think, so I like the basement, Well, teach the girl, Yeah,
but well here update that's her.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, okay, so real.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Quickly about the basement. It is the most beautiful basement
if you could have been for an old house. Anybody
been in the basement there at a gert Yeah, you know,
so it's very well lit.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
When I was hoping my mother in law set up
for Doors Open in twenty eighteen, she kept send me
to the basement to get stuff for the gift shop
pass volunteering and setting things up. I'm not wanting to
get freaked out easily. I don't, you know whatever, but
basements is a rule tend to be kind of creepy.
But this is a nice basement, Like it's well taken
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care of the wood planks on the floor, and every
time I went down, I felt a really sense of
positivity and warm you know, when you're you feel like
when you like you're in the shade and then you
go in the sun and the sun hits you.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It was that kind of warm like it felt positive,
and I thought, well, this is kind of weird for
a basement for me.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
When I went back upstairs to tell Margaret, I said,
you know, like usually basements really really freaked.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Me out, but there's something really nice about this basement.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That I keep wanting to go back. I'm in driged,
you know. And then that's when she had mentioned a
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
The history about Hugh John, because he was a magistrate
and he would walk from you know, the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Home every day.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well back in those days, unfortunately, the city wasn't such.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
A nice place, and a lot of times homeless children
and street urgons would.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Be begging, you know, on the streets and whatever.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
But if the constables, the police constables.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Ever found kids, didn't matter what age it was.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They would grab them off the streets and they would
throw them into the Bond Street jail. So Hugh John
apparently was very very you know, he had a soft spot.
He had a soft heart for all these little children.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So it was very common what he would do on
his way home. He would, you know, take the kid,
not take that sounds really really bad, but you know,
he would he would talk with them and say, hey,
do you need a meal, place to sleep?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And it was very common for him to actually bring
kids back and the maids and the staff would actually
look after these kids and they live in the base
and for a few days. So that's probably why it
was for me anyway, that's probably why I felt it
was all nice to warm and inviting and it was
like very nice to a good story.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So maybe there's like the little.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ghost group who says yes, yes, yes, does this Aret's
still rummaging around because that was the only you know,
love and sense.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Of belonging that maybe she got, or a lot of people,
a lot of the kids got when they were.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
There and taking care of And going back to what
Lauren was saying about the items in the house, you know,
again going back to spirits gravitating back, like you know,
there could be stuff in the house, possessions, right, you know,
people get attached to things and attack and go back
to where the object is. So I mean, it's quite
very possible too that we're not talking about just the
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the sased people i'd either passed in the house and
or gravitated back, but it could be the belongings that
maybe they're attached to and have come back too.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Too.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I love it, you know, around a little bit too. Well,
maybe this is a good time to take a little.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Bit of an intermission the second part of the show.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
We like to actually invite you to come up. No pressure,
but if anybody has like a ghost story that they
would like.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
To share or or feel that they can share, definitely
we invite you to come up and tell your stories.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We'd love to hear. We're very open minded, no judgments.
I mean, we've all had our.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Own experiences, so we totally get So there is no
T shirts draw.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Oh yeah, draw, Sorry, I'm very glad at this. I
do have balance in your name too, draws as well.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
If you want to come up and fill out a draw,
I'll be took a giving away one T shirt before
the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Any nice will press back, so we've got that going too.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
So give us about fifteen minutes and we'll start pulling
people from the audience to come up and tell one
of those stories.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And just a reminder that we have our wonderful vendor
in the back corner.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Curry is over there doing.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Some paranormal Hannah tattoo for you, so go check her
out as well.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, all right, and we've got merchant. We have merch
she Lily well, so thank you and oh thank you, Lauren.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm sorry, thank you, appreciate, appreciate, thank you. I can
so as we say the end, the very podcast of
socas were recorded. And remember to live every day like
it is your last, but never give up the ghost.
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Thank you. I'm like, I can't do you never read?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I know, I know either.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You did well excuse so well
Speaker 3 (37:00):
In shop Robery Alway show a people
Hello everybody. Hello, Hello, we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So we're just gonna get going here. Thank you for
your patience and thank you for coming out. Look at
all you beautiful, spooky, crazy, creepy people.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
My name is Jazz and I'm with giving Up the
Ghost Podcast. I can't see you, so I'm just gonna
pretend you're there with my lovely co host.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hi everybody, I'm Ashley. I'm from Winnipeg Paranormal Group. Thank
you so much for coming out. Like Jazz said, we
really appreciate it and love to see all your creepy faces.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
So just to familiarize, as I do every time, my
name again is Jazz. I'm with giving Up the Ghost Podcast.
We're Winnipeg's first and only paranormal podcast. We've been doing
this six and a half years, six and a half years.
Thank you. It's a you know, considering it's like a
glorified hobby. There's no money in podcasting, so in saying that,
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we do it because we like it. We're interested, we're curious,
we want to know more, and we want to know
more about Winnipeg and Manitoba specifically. That's why I had
the idea and I approached my partner's share saying, hey,
you know all those stories you'd hear when you were
a kid about that haunted house on Euclid or you
know wherever it be. You don't you lose these things?
(02:13):
They go, they disappear. We all know the Fort Gary Hotel,
we all know the CN station, we all know Burton
Cummings Theater, like you know, those are the gnomes right,
the doll of Nark.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But I mean, we wanted to keep the legacy going
of little unknown ghost stories and haunted stories of Winnipeg
and Manitoba. So that's what we emphasize on We are
downloaded in forty three countries.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What else can I throw at you to raz and
dazzle you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We are quite commonly on feedspot dot COM's top ten
best Canadian paranormal podcasts. Thank you, and again, we make
no money at this. This is a glorified hobby. So
and saying that we have two hundred and six, two
hundred and eight episodes.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now on spreaker dot com. We're on Spotify, We're on Apple,
We're pretty much everywhere that you can find podcasts if
you Google.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Giving up the Ghost Podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So that's us, that's what we are, that's what we do.
We drink and swear a little bit too, but I
mean that just adds to the charm and takes the
edge off because we do speak talk about some pretty spooky, crazy,
creepy stuff. So that's my intros to who we are
for the podcast, and I'll just swing it over to
Ash so she can give you a little insight into
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what the wonderful, beautiful people at the Winnipeg Paranormal Group.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Do for us.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Thank you so Winnipeg Paranormal Group.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
We have been around since two thousand and nine. We
focus primarily on client investigations, so a lot of people
will email us or reach out to us events like
this and let us know that they have activity in
their home and their needing some help with it, and
then we'll go out and investigate and see what we're
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able to find for them evidence wise. We also host
spirits with spirits with Giving Up the Ghost, of course,
and we also host public events where you guys get
to come out to a haunted location and we teach
you how to use our tools and you get to
investigate that haunted location with us. So just a little
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plug here. We've got a couple events coming up. We
have one at the Dellniver which is sold out unfortunately, fortunately,
but unfortunately. We also have one at the Saint James
Historical Museum of Saint James it's Sina Boia, as well
as the Seven Oaks host Museum that are coming up
and still have tickets available, so you can find those
(04:47):
on our Facebook page.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
But yeah, so we're here for you, guys. That's what
we want to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
As I said, that's our primary focus, whether it is
to help you deal with whatever's in your home or
to pique your curiosity.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Precisely perfect and tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Last last month actually was our first time at the
King said thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
If we can have a round of applause for the King,
said Bob. They are giving us this location, this creepy
cool location because it's haunted.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So that was last month.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
But we're not gonna we're not gonna talk about the past.
We're not we're not gonna look in the rearview mirror.
Just if you see something here or you feel something here,
please let us go. So aside from that, we have
a special guest tonight from the Dolivert Museum.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Has anybody been to the Delnavert so Hans.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Excellent, excellent, So as you know that place is haunted
as well, and Ashley said they have that coming up
as one of their tours and we are lucky enough
to have somebody representing the museum to come out tonight
and tell us some of their creepy, cool stories.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
So hand up, hands together for Lauren.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So before we get into the lovely stories that she's
accumulated with respects to hauntings and spirits and all that
good stuff, I'm just going to give you a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Little background Like histories.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
And hauntings go hand in hand, and that's what we
always say.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So, I mean, you know, we've.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Had a lot of success before we talk about a
place that's haunted while you're there and you bring up
names and stuff, trigger i mean, we're not the doll tonight,
but just to give.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You a little background history on why it's haunted, and
it's just it's been around for so long. It's a
beautiful building, beautiful house. So basically it was built in
eighteen ninety five, the dl no No Art Museum. It's a
small Victorian mansion and it's Nestled in the heart of
Winnipeg's downtown.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
This unique museum features.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
A day of the life feel as it transports you
back in time to the nineteenth century the second you
step in it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It was home to former.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Manitoba Premier, police magistrate and lawyer suit Sir Hugh John McDonald,
who was the son of Sir John A. McDonald and
his family. Dalnarverg Museum and Visitors Center is a National
historic site that is one of the finest examples in
Western Canada of the Queen Anne Revival architecture. Today, the
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museum foster's engagement in history, culture, and much more so.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
This was from their website.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm not you know, I'm pretty I'm a good wordsmith,
but you know this is Slick's.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Promotional stuff here.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
This is really worded nicely.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The Dalnaverg Museum was built in eighteen ninety five on
Treaty one land.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Also, let's see where.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What we got here.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
After Hugh John McDonald passed away, he left all of
his homes belonging to Agnes.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
I thought it was Hetty.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
What was she Gerty right? Or Gertrude right? And then
after he passed and they got rid of all the
belongings in the house. She then moved to the Rosalind
apartments on Osborne Street that's very haunted as well. So
all this connection, right, I mean, really like, come on,
everything's haunted in the city. But it's just kind of
cool to make the connect the dots, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
So what happened then after the house.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Was sold off, the people who owned the house then
transformed it into a boarding.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And rooming house, and in nineteen.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Sixty nine it was sold to a development company. The
development company intended to make the grounds into.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
A parking lot.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh my god, that would have been just brutal. But
in the nineteen seventies, the Manitoba.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Historical Society, together with several historical activists, worked with the
development company and made numerous offers to buy the house
and ultimately succeeding. Working with the City of Winnipeg and
other organizations, the Manitoba Historical Society attained grants to restore
the home.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
John Shivers and George.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Walker led the restoration, which costs roughly five hundred and
fifty nine thousand dollars and took several.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Years to complete. In twenty thirteen, the Mantoba Historical Society
closed the doors of the museum, spring a group of
dedicated and passionate individuals to create Friends of the Daln
Art Museum.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This newly formed a nonprofit organization, assumed ownership and was
able to reopen the dal Museum in the spring of
twenty fifteen. So that's a little bit part. I won't
get into the art architectural part.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Of it, which is pretty cool. I'm a bit of
a nerd. I'll tell you a little bit though about
Actually this is where Ashley comes in and I get
a breather. Here's some early years with respects to Hugh
John McDonald and his family.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So Sir Hugh John McDonald inherited his father's physical characteristics.
He had a small billed, British brown hair, clear blue eyes,
and the infamous prominent McDonald mills. He also grew up
to have his father's charm and easy attitude. McDonald's name
was supposed to be that of his older brother, John
Alexander McDonald Junior, who.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Passed away two years before his birth.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Isabella, Hugh John's mother begged for the name, but lost
the argument with Sir John A. McDonald's family and settled
with Hugh John McDonald. He grew up in Kingston in Toronto.
His father, the first Prime Minister, became the Attorney General
of Ontario and was often absent during McDonald's childhood. McDonald
played at his neighbor's most days, and his mother was
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bedridden due to deteriorating health. When his father was home,
the two cherished their time together, often playing cards in
the evening.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's a little driving.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
At seven years old, Hugh John's mother passed away, so
McDonald was sent to live with his uncle and aunt,
James Williamson and Margaret Williamson, who he viewed as his parents.
As he grew older, McDonald became interested in military service
and served on several occasions, but because of his father's
military life was short or what but because of his
father his military life.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Was short lived.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
In eighteen seventy two, McDonald was called to the bar,
and after that he begrudgingly practiced law with him his father,
Do you want to do it?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You can get right to them.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, let's get right to the book.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Get to the meat and potatoes.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
We're gonna we want care.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know this betterals, I'm thorough, I'm thorough. What can
I say a.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Little bit of his career.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
So in nineteen eleven he was appointed as a magistrate
in Winnipeg. In nineteen twelve, he became Knight Bachelor of
the Bath and was given the right to be called
Sir Hugh John McDonald's. In nineteen seventeen, he challenged the
Board of Police Commissioners and refused to allow the police
you need to be allied with the Winnipeg Trades and
Labor Council. In nineteen eighteen, he voted to instruct the
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Chief of Chief Constable to interrogate all members of the
police force. In nineteen nineteen, was at the frontline against
Winnipeg General Strike. He viewed the strike as a revolutionary movement.
In nineteen twenty five, he turned seventy five and celebrated
his birthday with special meetings put up.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
On by the Police Commissioners.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Nineteen twenty seven, he made his last appearance on behalf
the Conservative Party and was carried to a platform to
address the National Liberal Conservative Leadership Convention. In nineteen twenty eight,
he resumed duties in the courtroom after recovering from his
first leg infection. Nineteen twenty nine, he retired as magistrate
on March second. So his wife, Agnes Gertie was known
(12:23):
for her extravagant events and floral decorations around the down
the verse. Lady MacDonald was the daughter of Oh, I'm
gonna pacher that as J Van Kuna.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
How do I say that?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Couvenaught Ben Cornett, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Who worked with Sir John A.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
MacDonald.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Agnes married Hugh John on April twenty sixth, eighteen eighty three,
in Toronto and year lea later.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
A year later they had their son Jack.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Jack is pivotal.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So again we're just telling you all this stuff because
they had quite the posh lifestyle.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
With Gertie.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not only was she a busy socialite, but she had
a great impact on Hugh John's political life, and according
to letters Hugh John wrote to the Prime Minister Charles Tupper,
Agnes nudged him to advance his political career and even
convinced him to getting knighted good for her behind every
good man is a good woman. So she had some
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health issues as well, and she had two strokes, so
the family had hired in house nurse named Hattie for her,
and Hattie took care of my grandparents and family for
years as Hugh Gainsford, Agnes's grandson.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So Hugh John had.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
A daughter from the first marriage, which was Isabella Daisy Mary,
but there was also Jack and Jack lived in the
house up until his death. And he actually died from
diabetes because back in the day, I'm just looking for
the dates.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Back in the day, it wasn't treatable.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So unfortunately, Jack was diagnosed with diabetes as a child,
which was difficult to treat during the Victorian era since
there was no cure or proper treatment to manage. So
in the effort to curb his suffering, the McDonald's took
Jack on several trips to help.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Him from various medical communities. I'm still looking for the
death date.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Here, here we go.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He was actually very educated though too, just to throw
that in there, but he returned to Winnipeg after one semester.
Later in life, like his father and grandfather, Jack had
his eye on lag He had studied at the University
of Manitoba, but he died before he could finish his degree.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
His funeral was held at All Saints Anglican Church. To
look at that.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Nineteen o five?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Thank you, Thank me so Jack passed in the house,
and so did Hugh John unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So maybe at this point we can probably turn the
mic over to cause we're talking about death. We can
turn the mic over to.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Lauren and she can tell us of some uh other
worldly occurrences that have happened in the Donmark Museum and
witness by people, and I'll him mic over to her.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
Hi, everyone, so I'm here as the representative in the
donna Ert Museum.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Thank you, said so.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Donaverert Museum's interesting.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
History has made it so that a lot of our
guests and volunteers have experienced interesting or.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Unexplainable things within the house.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Some of the more frequent experiences that we've seen as
footsteps when no one's in the home, particularly in the
upstairs while someone's working downstairs, or hearing voices speaking, or
especially smelling perfumes and tobacco throughout the house in different
portions of the house. Some many different tour guides haven't
described walking to a room and smelling tobacco after the
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house has been empty for hours, and things.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Of the sort.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
We've I sent out a message to all of our
volunteers out of curiosity before I came on to see
if anyone had any interesting stories that they liked the share,
and we got a few emails and responses, the main
one being one of our main volunteers. He's been with
us for several years now. His grandmother was actually a
cook for the McDonald's in the early twentieth century for
(16:32):
about five years, and he described his experience in the
home of seeing things fly off shelves very frequently when
he would be reading alone waiting for guests to visit,
or times where he would come downstairs after being alone
in the house and seeing the oven doors be open,
which if you haven't been into the museum up and
(16:52):
is a giant, industrial, two ton monster of a thing.
So it's very hard to get that door open and
closed on its own.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And for other stories.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here we've had described a visions or seeing figures throughout
the home.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't know if you want me to get full into.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Stories right now or yeah for sure. Yeah, So I
got a few write out the stories sent in.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
So.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
One email was from one volunteers, a Laura So she
says that during the summer of twenty twenty three, while
working as a tour guide, she felt that the house
carried a particular stillness, and during a typical tour in
the warm late afternoon, I had a small group of
guests with me, and as I climbed the stairs to
the main staircase, I paused to stop at the top
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landing to gesture towards the master's bedroom, and as I
explained it, something tugged my attention and I turned my
eyes and towards the attic stairs.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There was a woman.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
It was the impression of a woman dressed in a
white eighteen ninety style gown. Her figure was faint, almost translucent,
but there was no mistaking the of the stress. While
she was gliding, not walking, down the attic staircase, and
without acknowledging me or the group turned down the back
hallway towards what would have been the servants quarters.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I froze briefly. No one seemed to notice.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
The guests had all turned to admire the master bedroom
and were unaware of anything. I hesitated debating telling them
what I'd seen, and I wondered if I imagined it,
but I felt like I know what I saw. After
the tour, I asked some of the other guides casually
if they ever noticed anything odd around the house, and
one looked at me and said they hadn't, but the
collections cured her said that she had felt spirits in
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the house. So that's one experience we've had from one
of our tour guides during a tour. Another we had
this was a comment we received of someone describing going
to the home and fainting once they reached Jack's room.
They described them as feeling as something went through them
before their body dropped and took.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Them a moment to collect themselves before they could come up.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
And we've had a lot of previous spooky events to
speak in the home over the years and lots of
different experiences through that. But one story we had was
from another volunteer who during a singans in the basement
as everyone exited, she built a rush to go through
her body and felt extreme nausea and had to go home.
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Another volunteer has described seeing a cat in the upstairs
window that vanished as soon as it appeared, and our
collections curator has had several experiences. She describes herself as
a sensitive and has said that she's had many experiences
of spirits in the home. She says that describes there
as being two men in the upstairs attic as well
(19:40):
as one man living in the closet to Jack's room,
and she has described herself as being channeled through spirits
in the parlor during ghost tours as well, and has
described saying things that she felt was not herself saying them. Yeah,
those are some of the ghost stories we've received just
from our volunteers.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So with the podcast, we started in two thousand and
nineteen and we actually had the honor to be invited
to come.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Out our doors open and we recorded.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
At the Dollar Museum on the Branda, which was quite
the experience.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Some people we knew were feeling at like, you know, in.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
The same glasses over the front door and you're very
handy there, apparently a little It's.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
A lot of people that we've talked to say they'd
feel like something's watching you whenever they make the entrance.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
To the front m We actually recorded some voices you
know back in those days were the whole podcasting again,
because this is all the.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Volunteer and you know what everybody we put into it.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Is just out of pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like these mics are nice now, uh, before we had
like one of the those snowball mics.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So it kind of re it kind of recorded everything
and we're on Branda. You didn't have very uh secluded
like you know, were reberation or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You kind of got everything, which was kind of good
because of the voices. I I recorded it off of
the older podcast. It was episode twenty one and twenty
two and here.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
One of the boy to listen to that. We mostly talked.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
About the history. I'm gone we tried to.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Hear and one of the cool things about the history,
just to mention about, you know the doc well River
is they had to recreate everything in the museum.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Correct, We had to create like because after.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The the household and girtyto and she sold.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Everything to bring it back to a museum.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Standpoint, because it was such a well documented house.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
It was like at the time, I.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Think the groom was built in just eighteen minute above.
At the time, it was only one of eleven houses
in the.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
App the whole city that actually had electrissing and running
water inside. So this house was documented from the get go,
and think it was thirty five hous dollars bill at
the time, and were because the proving of having all
this information of the house being documented on the star
(22:13):
that they were able to go back to wonder the
pop Us archives when they were recreating the museum to
find is many pieces of welligborhood, you know, whether it's
like training or hunting, garage dealing, antiquing, and that's how
they basically recreated the museum. So everything in the museum
right now isn't necessarily anything that belonged to the McDonalds.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
There's a few original pieces, but we find yeah, a,
so there are a few original pieces, particularly in the parlor.
We have a china cabinet bel that belonged to Agnes,
and then we have two lauses as well as a
couple of ceramic figures.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Okay, so these were pieces.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
That were passed down through family that was donated back
to the museum which the construction was completed.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, very next, O good.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You got Bootsie Seer telling you real quickly when it
played for you the voices and said, we like to
joke around, we like to have a good time when
we're talking about series and goost all this kind of stuff.
I mean, we're order to trying to be fun of
anybody or anything per se.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
But we really pissed off three We missed off of those.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't want to miss off, you know, I don't
I suggest you don't do that. What just to be
a little.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Background history, we're talking about the history of the else
on uh.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
The words of Brenda. We were talking about how we,
you know, back in.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Those days, everything's so hash the best, the best spare
no sense.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And then the husband dies and she's left anyways, so
she's got a self everything off to try and recoup
some money, you know, because they didn't have like Little's
pension or any of.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
That back then, back in the day. But apparently she'd have.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A dog at some point that she loved her a
little love. And when that dog guy, she went and
had stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Because she thought it so mushed.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, I got sold during grow up soon or five
cents or pan bug cents.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It was a dog and the laugh thing and there
laughing and we're making fun.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
On the veranda, her veranda, and after we you know,
we make fun of it. You heard was and I said, byes, kid,
did I know?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I have to like replay that, Like as I'm editing
they are sitting in my Dargo offices like at night, some.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Editing, I'm like, oh my god, who was that, you know,
just shipping the hats.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And then there was another portion when I.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Was editing the recordings because you know, we're trying to
put on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do you want a business part? Do you want a
business part? People welcome by, Do you want a business part?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And I say that, and then you hear a little
ghost for go yes, yes, yes, So those were pretty
cool catches.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Then I would love to go back and report again,
so I can, you know, make Amand's with her.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
There's probably more spirits than just the McDonald's, you know,
because that's.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Who we know, that's who's there.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
But spirits are spirits, and there's transient spirits.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And it was a warning home for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know. Spirits is basically when you pass, your body goes.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
But you know, an energy is on because that's what
we are. Like energy is energy. It will continue on.
So maybe some people love living there or even just
visiting there or staying there, and maybe they gravitated to
go back. Who knows, right, So it's not necessarily maybe
the McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
However, they do say in the part they do smell
throo its perfume. I've heard that and Q John in
his study.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
SNAr smoke because he's you know, just smool cinars.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I've also heard late at many too, if you look
out at some point of sr passing, but you can
actually see either Jack looking at his bedroom window or
you can.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Actually even see you John looking out of the study.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So if you're then on to look one dark night
into the windows, I mean, don't don't go creeping on
the grounds.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
We don't promote trespasses.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Don't know the loves about them.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So in saying that they're in there a lot of
really cool think My my mother in law was now passed.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
She actually started the gift door when the dollar burt,
she built that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Up for them, working for a little bit.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
And she had even said she had stimed the cigar smoke.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And also she would run down to the bassi to.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Go grown stuff and then the service fell living, so
she'd run back up.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
But then it was and that was disconnected like six
years ago, so I mean there's still something there, that's
for sure. And if you have, you guys from living
for a number also captured some stuff like it was too.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Trick, like I'll go get my audio.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So several years back would say six seven years ago,
we were actually filming a sizzle reel at the down
Malt and it started out in the basement. One of
our investigators said that he felt like he was getting
a hug. So my partner, Kelly, who unfortunately is not
(27:14):
here tonight, she took up over one of our tools
called a melmeter, took it over to him and it
was spiking on his back. Now, this device doesn't normally
spike like that like it's it measures electromagnetic feels, which
is kind of like what comes out of your well.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
It is what comes out of your microwave.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right, That's why the always say don't stand in front
of your microwave.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
So there's absolutely no reason that this should have been
spiking on a human.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And then they started asking some questions to the ghost.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Box and they asked, you know, who's here with us,
and clear as day, like almost like they were standing
beside them, you heard Jack come through the ghost box,
so Jack is definitely in that house.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Probably said that. Well, I don't blame them, sure, I
mean that's the best family home. He was Sasha at
the time. Yeah, the choice of choice.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Hopefully we'll get some more experiences kind of at the
beginning of July.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm just gonna see if we can play this audio.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I do apologize it's from computer to audio. I'm gonna
crank it up here and just gonna show you a
little bit of the conversation of us talking about the
Pug and we'll see if it plays, to see.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If this was right here. Okay, no, it didn't come.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
But anyway, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's on there, it's it's anyway. And then I'll just
see if I can. I'll see if I can show
you the little ghost Girl.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
This won't be as long. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
There that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
If you go back to the podcast, and if you
care to listen to it's episode twenty one two.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
And you know you can make it louder and hear it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I don't have the original laptop anymore cause I was
like six years ago, so I I had to retrieve
it from the internet.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
I'm I'm again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We do this for free, and I have no tech people.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I am a tech.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
That says a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
So any more stars from now, I'm from Dalno.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, do you wanna give us some information from the
dollmert I in in general or in general?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, there regard of the dollmer.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
We actually our her normal event has sold outs already.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's duly worth coming up.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Or we are hoping to have a couple more events
similar over the summer.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
And speaking our.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Collections person is very.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Involved the uh spiritual in the hall and we'll kind
of talk without length, and we're hoping that.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
She will kind of give.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
A guided tours running the paranormal aspects of the home soon.
She has lots of thoughts on what and who who
isn't in the house, you know. She said that she
believes that there are two men upstairs in the attic,
one Indigenous one English.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Oh, and she describes there being an indigenous.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Man in the basement as well, okay, and a man
in Jack's closet as well. And previously when the show
was featured on a couple of different ghost hunting shows,
I believe it was how the name was gave to me.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I'm sorry I.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Should have written this down, but okay, we've had a
couple experience with them as well, describing experiences of just
a lot of sense of being overtaken in the house,
particularly in the basement right as well. That seems to
be a very popular space for that of the basement's
crazy to begin with.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think, so I like the basement, Well, teach the girl, Yeah,
but well here update that's her.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, okay, so real.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Quickly about the basement. It is the most beautiful basement
if you could have been for an old house. Anybody
been in the basement there at a gert Yeah, you know,
so it's very well lit.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
When I was hoping my mother in law set up
for Doors Open in twenty eighteen, she kept send me
to the basement to get stuff for the gift shop
pass volunteering and setting things up. I'm not wanting to
get freaked out easily. I don't, you know whatever, but
basements is a rule tend to be kind of creepy.
But this is a nice basement, Like it's well taken
(32:29):
care of the wood planks on the floor, and every
time I went down, I felt a really sense of
positivity and warm you know, when you're you feel like
when you like you're in the shade and then you
go in the sun and the sun hits you.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
It was that kind of warm like it felt positive,
and I thought, well, this is kind of weird for
a basement for me.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
When I went back upstairs to tell Margaret, I said,
you know, like usually basements really really freaked.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Me out, but there's something really nice about this basement.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That I keep wanting to go back. I'm in driged,
you know. And then that's when she had mentioned a
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
The history about Hugh John, because he was a magistrate
and he would walk from you know, the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Home every day.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well back in those days, unfortunately, the city wasn't such.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
A nice place, and a lot of times homeless children
and street urgons would.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Be begging, you know, on the streets and whatever.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
But if the constables, the police constables.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Ever found kids, didn't matter what age it was.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They would grab them off the streets and they would
throw them into the Bond Street jail. So Hugh John
apparently was very very you know, he had a soft spot.
He had a soft heart for all these little children.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So it was very common what he would do on
his way home. He would, you know, take the kid,
not take that sounds really really bad, but you know,
he would he would talk with them and say, hey,
do you need a meal, place to sleep?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And it was very common for him to actually bring
kids back and the maids and the staff would actually
look after these kids and they live in the base
and for a few days. So that's probably why it
was for me anyway, that's probably why I felt it
was all nice to warm and inviting and it was
like very nice to a good story.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So maybe there's like the little.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ghost group who says yes, yes, yes, does this Aret's
still rummaging around because that was the only you know,
love and sense.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Of belonging that maybe she got, or a lot of people,
a lot of the kids got when they were.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
There and taking care of And going back to what
Lauren was saying about the items in the house, you know,
again going back to spirits gravitating back, like you know,
there could be stuff in the house, possessions, right, you know,
people get attached to things and attack and go back
to where the object is. So I mean, it's quite
very possible too that we're not talking about just the
(34:46):
the sased people i'd either passed in the house and
or gravitated back, but it could be the belongings that
maybe they're attached to and have come back too.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Too.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
I love it, you know, around a little bit too. Well,
maybe this is a good time to take a little.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Bit of an intermission the second part of the show.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
We like to actually invite you to come up. No pressure,
but if anybody has like a ghost story that they
would like.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
To share or or feel that they can share, definitely
we invite you to come up and tell your stories.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We'd love to hear. We're very open minded, no judgments.
I mean, we've all had our.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Own experiences, so we totally get So there is no
T shirts draw.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Oh yeah, draw, Sorry, I'm very glad at this. I
do have balance in your name too, draws as well.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
If you want to come up and fill out a draw,
I'll be took a giving away one T shirt before
the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Any nice will press back, so we've got that going too.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
So give us about fifteen minutes and we'll start pulling
people from the audience to come up and tell one
of those stories.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
And just a reminder that we have our wonderful vendor
in the back corner.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
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Speaker 4 (35:58):
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Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, all right, and we've got merchant. We have merch
she Lily well, so thank you and oh thank you, Lauren.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm sorry, thank you, appreciate, appreciate, thank you. I can
so as we say the end, the very podcast of
socas were recorded. And remember to live every day like
it is your last, but never give up the ghost.
(36:29):
Thank you. I'm like, I can't do you never read?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I know, I know either.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.