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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey, this is Jazz. This is Giving Up the Ghost podcast.
Thank you for coming back. Today's episode is part two
of our ghost story portion of the Spirits with Spirits
that happened last month September twenty fourth at the King's
Head Pub, co hosted by Yours Truly as well as
the Winnipeg Paranormal Group. So this is part two. I
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thought i'd chop it up a little bit spread around
the ghost love if you know what I'm saying. So
today is October twenty ninth. Today is Spirits with Spirits,
the October version, so please come on down to the
King's Head Pub listen to some horrific, terrifying, potentially ghost
stories and also our guest today will be Chris Ratowski,
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Winnipeg's own eufologists. He's an amazing guy to listen to,
very smart, very funny, but the stories he tells are
quite factual and creepy, so he does more so on
the UFO side, but he is also quite a depth
than everything paranormal. So we do invite you to come
out tonight for some cool beverages and some spooky, scary
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Halloween ghost stories. Wear your costume for your chance to
win a prize in saying that if you ever have
any ghost stories or you'd like to reach out and
say hi to us, please please please do so at
giving Up the Ghost podcast at gmail dot com. Yeah,
I don't know what more to say. October has been
super crazy, busy, lots of material to edit, and hopefully
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I will have those episodes out to you by the
end of the year. Like it's just nuts. Anyway, thank
you again for sharing the ghost love and remember to
live every day like it is your last. But never
give up the ghost chow For now, I'll.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Tell your story real quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh you've got another back there, somebody, come on up,
come on, come on.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Hello, Hello, Andreye Nancy him. I don't say I tell
a story, see kay uh So my I have two stories, sure, absolutely,
Like I'll start with a scary one first. So my
first place and when it peg when I was like.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eighteen, I moved in and I was on lived in Ellice.
This place was it was scary, like you'd.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Walk in and you'd feel like dread, like you were depressed, like.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You couldn't escape nothing. I lived there for two years.
I'd never stepped foot in.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The basement once, like you would open the door and
it was just like you would like hit a wall.
Like I would hear babies crying, and I would be
upstairs and my mother and my son would be in
the living room downstairs and he's asleep, and I'd hear
babies crying at the bottom of the stairs.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And what made me move out though, it was like
two o'clock in the morning. I'm in the living room,
I'm watching TV. All lights are off, and then the
growling started.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So the growling, I'm in the living rooms in the
front of the house, kitchen, and the back.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The sound just came from like inside the house.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Like it was just like just growling and like you
sound like some woman screaming, and it just like the
sound just took up the entire living room and that
was like like that was it. I was like, okay,
I'm I'm out of here. That was the scariest house
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I like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And then I moved and never looked back at that
house ever again.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Like everybody would like I would get sleep prolysis at
night and it would feel like somebody, like some girl
was like on me, and I think, like I still
have some like PTSD from my house. So I was
like my first place on my own, and I was like,
my boss is here. So she wanted me to tell
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one story though, So, so that's.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
A scary store. That's so where I work.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Is.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It used to be an old Woolworths and next door
used to be the what's that called bargain store on
Suffer Avenue. So like the both buildings have been renovated
and so but they're old, right, It's still the same structure.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's just remodeled.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And so when I first started working there, my office
used to be in the basement. This is nice place.
It's not scary place, right, It's renovated. So my office
used to be in the basement and it's in this
and there's like seven of us in that hallway. And
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when I first started working there, I would leave my
office and but my light would be on, and then
I would come back to my office and my leg
would be off. And this is happening like over a
few weeks, and I got kind of pissed off. I'm like, hey,
I'm like, hey, who's messing with my light? I'm like
going to all my coworkers, I'm like, hey, are you
messing with my light and they're like, no, what are
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you talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
So, but we have this female bathroom, so our lady's
bathroom is on the other side of the basement, and
this bathroom is kind of scary, like every female in
the building gets kind of creeked out in that bathroom.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Like you would go in and you would feel like
somebody's watching you.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And you would just like you'd kind of stay away
from this stall here, you'd stay away from that stall there,
and you'd only use the middle stalls. And everybody, like students,
our students get scared of that bathroom.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You get creeped out in that bathroom.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But you go to the men's bathroom and it's totally fine,
like you feel nothing in there, but the female bathroom
is like yeah. And our receptionist she starts at like
she gets here about eight in the morning and I
usually get there.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
About eight oh five, and.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
She would like record the sounds from because we have
an open space.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
In the middle so the sun can.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Reach the ground, and she would record like you'd hear movement,
you like you hear movement downstairs.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You hear clicking, tapping, like stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Moving around in that area where the bathroom is, and
she would like record it and she'd be creeped up
because she's the only one there at eight o'clock in
the morning. And then I get there and we're like
this looking over. Then all of a sudden, everybody starts
coming in the sound stop, right, So yeah, our work
is kind of we just stay away from an area
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every year.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
What it's nice.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And like we heard a story from like the founder
from uh our work, and she said that when they
bought the place and they walked down the stairs to
the basement, there would only be like one light. You
know those old lights where you pull the string and
it would like up the entire basement and you only
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have one light down there. So so yeah, there, our
basement's kind of but it's like the same structure they
only like we still have the same woods, uh ceiling
for when it was Woolworth's and everything is kind of
like the same structure. It's just kind of renovated a bit, right,
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same floor, same everything.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So yeah, so WA.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Think it's it's interesting to know what the history was.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, so what went Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, cause it was like the same owner, Like I
guess she owned Woolworths. I don't know that was like
our building was renovated to thousand and one. I believe
I can't bug my boss over there over there, but yeah,
I'm thinking like two thousand and one they bought the place.
But when we were founded as a school, that was
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nineteen ninety one, and he actually donated cash with registered
machines to us to like start our education programs. And
that was like thirty oh, thirty three years ago, so
he owned it before that, and the basement was just
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like a dark dungeon storage place.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And yeah even before that, yeah, before that.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, well because our even our daycare, so we have
a daycare that's connected and the basement we have a
classroom in there. We used to have Indigenous Senior Resource
Center there, and the person who ran that, like she
was scared, like because she would hear things, things would move.
She got her elder to kind of come in to
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smudge it and everything like that and to try and
like learn the spirits out of there, cause like she
was freaked out, like she didn't wanna go in there
by herself. Yeah, everybody would have to go in there
with her to kind of hm operate everything.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And yeah, so interesting, very cool.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah, uh yeah, I've if you ever if you ever
wanna shoot maybe address you know, you dress sometimes when
you need history searches, and sometimes you do find things
so well, you never know.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You just never know.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And if you ever get an elder and you're dealing
with spirits, like my elder actually gave me ghost medicine,
so for I was putting.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That out there, Oh thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, she's got You have to keep it in the dark.
It can't touch white or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Just kind of I never heard that.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yuah, you put it with your smudge and then when
you smudge your house and.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Hum, alright, alright, awesome, we thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Anybody else your folk colling.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Want to go to Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
A load lend again?
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Are you doing ooh same ol same. So the uh
very first of these that I went to UH last year,
the topic was haunted highways, Yes, but I had something
else I wanted to talk about. I do have a
haunted highway story and what the second last guy in
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California was talking about how his wife tried to normalize things.
So that's what this one is about.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
That.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Uh, I was living in Calgary and had really terrible
sleep cause my father didn't want air conditioning turned on,
and so I got about four hours a really bad
sleep in this one. I may as well start driving
cause my car has air conditioning, right, So I had
to stop a couple of times on the way to
calgarya nap. But and I could still find this on
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a map on number two Highway the west end of Manitoba.
And there's this uh correction line. You know what that is?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Well, you know, the the grid in the Prairies is
square miles, right, but the earth is rapped, so every
now and then there isn't a mile, it's a half
a mile. Oh, I have to allow for a slip
for the roundness. So the road goes down half a mile,
goes a couple of miles, then comes back up a
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mile and a half. And the curve's really tight, so
it's a ninety k speed limit. But condition are good.
I'm still doing one ten and I can see standing
just off the curve a really tall guy. So I
can see him from like a kilometer away, and I
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get closer and I realize I'll have to stand for this.
He's facing where the sun's about to come up, like this,
so I see him for quite a while kilometer of travel.
He's just off the pavement. I go buy him at
one hundred and ten. Doesn't flinch. I look in the
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rearview mirror, doesn't flinch. He's still standing there like that.
There's no conveyance of any kind that I can see,
no bicycle on the motorcycle, no car as far as
I can tell. There's no yard anywhere near there. So
he's just there by himself, no backpack, no you know. Now,
I kept telling people, Oh, he's really tall, so I
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was normalizing and say, oh, well, he must have been
six six. The truth is, and it was a long
time before I started speaking this, he was closer to
seventh foot. He was writing black T shirt, black pants,
and a black watch cat all black, like I say,
like that facing the sun. So are there people that
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are seven feet tall? Yeah, but it's pretty rare, right,
So yes, So all the things combined, I'm not sure
what I saw, But my downplaying is height was me
normalizing it, right, which even to this day, I initially,
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you know, I try and fit it into a normal physical,
concrete world when these things happen, right, So anyway, that's
my story for today.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
When we were doing this last year at the Little
Brown Jug, we did an episode of that news were
for who was Content Highways That was if you care
to check out our podcast, I mean have pros sell
it and stuff, but I mean it's one there and
some of the stories were quite creepy to say the.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Least and all.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And then I told the for the most word, so.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We have one more person. Hello, Hello, and your name
my name is Alison. Welcome. Thanks.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
Okay, I have a story. It's not a ghost story.
It's a super natural story. So what it is is
there's a phone app that I heard about through a
podcast I listened to. There's an app called Random Nautica.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't know if anyone has heard of this.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
I've done it, so let.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Me explain it.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
The app is based on the principle that your thoughts
can trigger real world anomalies, kind of like in a
quantum physics way, but also in a synchronicity way. So
like a synchronicity, for example, something is more than a coincidence,
like to kind of uncanny to be a coincidence. Maybe
it's a synchronicy that means something in some way. But
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what I did, so, Like, my brother was visiting Winnipeg.
He lives in bc SO and I've used the app
like before this too, but this is probably the biggest
story from it. So I was using the app, and
then with the app, you have to kind of like
think about something, and then after thinking about it deeply,
like meditating on it, the app will show you kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
A coordinate where you should go on a walk to.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
It's meant to get you walking outside, and then at
that coordinate you'll see a synchronicity that should apply to
your thought. So I was showing this app to my brother,
and I thought about cats because I love cats, so
I meditated on that heavily, and then the app, like surprisingly,
it showed a spot really close by. We were at
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a Cinnaboyane park kind of by the walking bridge that
could go from Sergeant's Sunday across Portage over the bridge.
So we were sitting there by the bridge and then
the app shows the cordinate by a bench that's under
a tree, and I thought, well, that's kind of doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's a bench and a tree. It doesn't have a
lot to do with cats, so we kind of ignored it.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
And then meanwhile, a mom and her teenage daughter sit
down on that bench. Again, we think nothing of it,
but then they walked past us, and like we kind
of mentioned the story to them because we're friendly people.
And then the girl says, hold on a second, my
name is Cat.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
What the heck? Like that's more than a coincidence.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
And then not only that, but like she was wearing
a T shirt that had an image of like a
tiger from a sports team on its awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Awesome, wow, thank you. Okay, that sounds some.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Careful what you wish for when you're doing ronan attica.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
What is this reddonautica?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I've you've done it once? Yeah, this is uh kind
of creepy. Actually, could go on Reddit.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
They've got some really crazy creepy stories about.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
That, or even TikTok catboy, alright, anybody have any last
minute stories tonight that they wanna come up and share?
You will, alright, come on up, come on, come on down.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
You're our last contestant.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Okay, are you Bridgit Brigit?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Nice to meet your.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Looked up Michael, little closer. There we go.
Speaker 9 (18:47):
Awesome, we'll call this story the cupboard. Okay, okay, So
I was running a daycare out of my home in
Nipa and one of the daycare kids' grandparents passed away.
So the parents.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Asked me if I wanted this cupboard.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
And it was kind of like an old dresser where
you can hang close and there's four drawers whatever. There
was a little mirror, but the big mirror was missing,
so I had just put material there. It's fine. And
then I moved to Winnipeg and somebody that came over
ended up putting a mirror in it.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, once that.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Mirror was in there, I was terrified of this cupboard.
Oh like bad stuff started happening. So I had it
in my bedroom, but I would have the door the
mirror open so that I couldn't see it right against
the wall, right, and as long as it was against
the wall, nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It seemed like everything was fine.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
And so I'd leave the room, come back and the
door's closed, and as soon as I walked in, I'm
just like, oh my god, yeah, and my heart would
just stop right. So I would go close it, yelling
at my kids like who touched the door? Why are
you touching it? And so the one night my daughter
was sleeping in my room. She was about one and
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a half and she went to bed very well. So
the one night, all of a sudden, I just hear
this blood curdly scream from her.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So I run to the stairs and she's at the
top of the stairs.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
So I run up and grab her and bring her down,
and I'm like, what's wrong, Like, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And she's like, that lady touched me. I'm like what lady.
She's like, the lady in your room. Oh god.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
So I'm sitting there and she's like, well, where'd she
touch you? And she points to her leg. So I'm
thinking she's a year and a half. I'll wait, give
her half an hour. Ask her again. So I asked
her and I'm like, so, what happened up stairs? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
The lady she garried me. She touched me.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
So I'm like, well, what happened? Like, what'd she do?
She's like, she touched my leg. She never touches me.
She just talks all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So whatever.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
I'm sitting on the couch and think couch is facing
the back of it to the stairs, So I was like, well,
what's the lady's name. She jumps off the couch runs
to the stairs, comes back.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
She's like, she said, her name's mom.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Like with this sassy ad and I'm like, I don't
think so. So I brought her upstairs with me and
I'm like, you need to tell that lady to leave.
So she goes upstairs and she's just repeating whatever I say,
right whatever. So she wasn't bothered by this lady again.
So a couple of nights later, go in the room.
The door's closed again or the mirror, so I can
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see the mirror. So I get up and in the
middle of the night go to the washroom and I
can hear somebody outside in the hallway. So I'm thinking
it's one eyed kids, because you know there is four
of them, And so I come out of the bathroom
and I face the way where the kid should be,
and there's a man standing there, but I can see
through him. So he's wearing like overalls and a khaki shirt,
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and I can see he has a but I was
too scared to look at his face because I was
scared that I don't know, I don't know why. I
thought that if I looked in his eyes, something worse
would happen.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So whenever I turn around and go back to bed.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
And so the next day I wake up and I'm
just like, what the hell is wrong with me? Like
why was I not freaking out? Because now I'm freaking out.
And so a couple of days go by. My daughter's
a little bit older, probably about four or five. So
I'm doing my hair in the bathroom. She's standing at
the doorway and she looks down the hallway.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
She just like jumps back, and I'm like what.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
And that day we were looking for the remote because
I have three boys and a girl. So the three
boys are older and we couldn't find the remote. They
left to go see their dad for the weekend. Can't
find the remote. We're looking all over the place, can't
turn the TV on without the remote. So whatever, I
was doing my hair and she jumped and I said
what was really wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And she's like, I think that's the boy that stole
the remote. I'm like, what are you talking about. She's like,
there's a boy in the hallway.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
So I look right away. I'm thinking, why is there
somebody in my house? So she said I'm sure he
stole the remote.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was like, well, what makes you think that?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
And she says, well, he's running against the wall and
he kept looking back at her, and I was just like, well, like,
where'd you go?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, he went down the stairs.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
So of course I'm looking right like there's no kid
in my house.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And she's like, well, mom, you're probably not gonna find him.
And she's like, he had no legs.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
So we go downstairs. Sure enough, the remote is sitting
on the floor at the bottom of the stairs.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Freaky.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
So that cupboard ended up in the hallway. That cover, yea,
the cupboard ended up in the hallway. And when we moved,
they had the movie. They had said we could leave
whatever we wanted and they would move.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, I left that cupboard. I did not talk about
the cover.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
I did not tell anybody about the cupboard when I
was home. I couldn't talk about it because cover, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It is bad, it's not a good cover. So I
left it behind.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
And then the movers that moved us were horrible, like
they swore from the kids. They threw our stuff root whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well, they took the covera.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Thank you so much, thanks, thanks for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I think it's that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I guess it's that time, right, So it is all right.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
So we're at that time of night where we got
to say goodbye.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So first I want to.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Thank the King's Head for having us out. Awesome that
they've given us a permanent home now, so we'll be
here on the last Wednesday of every month, last wednes
so come out again and enjoy the stories and tell
your own. I also want to thank Michael the wonderful
bartender for tonight's Thank you so much. Thank you for
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providing our liquid courage and to Vince with filthy little things.
Thank you so much for coming out of being our
special under tonight, and of course to all of you
guys for coming out and being here every week telling
your stories, coming out and listening. We really appreciate everybody
coming out and seeing all your smiling.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Faces and James and Judy amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Thank you again. Thank you appreciate it. It comes awesome.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
And of course you know, make a trip out to
six Science this year.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, check out six Times Hong and Attraction.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You will not be disappointed. Spot on amazing. And can
I tell who's coming out next month?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Can I so? Because the King's Head is going to
have us here at the last Wednesday of every month.
The next spirits of Spirits tell your friends, tell the
creepy cool friends.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We're going to be back October twenty ninth.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And our special guests guest is Chris Rotowski. He is
the Manitoba ufologist, so you know Manitoba. He's the Canadian,
he's a Canadian. He's published, he's well researched.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He's had what twelve books, I think fifty thing like that. Yeah,
so he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
We've had him before when we were at our other
location and he's going to be coming out as our
guest speaker and everything. Well he does everything cryptids UFOs.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Yeah, he was the original ghost hunters in Winnipeg back
in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
So yeah, so definitely mark your calendars October twenty ninth.
And speaking of marking your calendars, Ashley and her crew
and Kelly and all of them at the Winnipeg Paranormal
Group has an explosive October month.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
If you want to tell them where you're.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Going to be here, we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
So obviously, first off, we have a market coming up
here on Sunday, Yes, on our Sip and Shop, so
come out and enjoy that twelve to five.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Then we have I'm seeing I'm here to her dance
Monkey Dance.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
We are going to be at Fort Lorraine, which is
at in Portage Laperrie. That one is sold out. We
are going to be at the Sinaboyan Park Pavilion. So
there's still tickets available for that one. You can go
to the Cinnaboyan Park's website. They're taking care of the
ticket sales there. We are going to Saint Norbert Art Center.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
That one is sold out. Yeah, I'm checking that one out.
I'm just going to show up.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
We're going to be heading out to Brandon, so if
you guys know any Brandon people or want to take
a trip out, We're going to be going to the
Daily House Museum out there. We've got a couple of markets,
so Fantastical Emporium on October twelfth. Basically check our Facebook
page because it's never ending right.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Now and a lot going on.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
We just booked another event for November, so a subki
season is continuing past October.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Love the Spookies and yeah. So and if you want
to check.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Out the podst again, it's giving up a ghost podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
If you have a.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Story and you want to tell us, definitely don't be
shy giving up the Ghost podcast at gmail dot com,
so that's where you can get a hold of us.
And again thanks for coming out and doing Okay.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Just another reminder that Winnipeg Paranormal. While we do all
these wonderful events, we also are here for clients. So
if you are having activity in your home and you
want an investigation, you want to try and find out more,
reach out to us. We are more than willing to
come out and help you. Our clients are definitely our
first and foremost for us, so for sure, don't forget
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about us if you're having activity as well, and also
remember to live every day like it is your last, and.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
No forget, don't give up the ghosts. Never give up
the ghost.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's how we end our podcast.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Again, Thank you guys, have a great night. We got
to make our draw.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
God too far.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
We have a drawn.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You make a draw. Do you want firs uh Na
drop