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September 9, 2024 61 mins
SPIRITS WITH SPIRITS - Summerween - Shadownman Stories July 27, 2024 - Part 3- Episode 197

HUGE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE that came out - This week's episode was from our Spirits with Spirits SUMMERWEEN episode of 'Spirits with Spirits' at Little Brown Jug. More specifically we discussed collected stories about people's experiences with seeing a 'Shadowman'. Usually described as a tall figure, humanoid in black, from head to toe with no facial features, but someones wearing a top hat. This is 3 of 3 parts of Summerween.  
This week's episode is the Open Mic portion of our 3rd Spirits with Spirits at Little Brown Jug at 336 William Ave, Winnipeg,

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sorry for that extended break. We're back. Sorry about that week.
We tend to do that. Look a fie little by.
Oh I still forgot to get a drink of water
after all that, Chelsea, So order the portion of the
night will be invite again Jazz getting up to this podcast,

(01:00):
the Little lund the group trying to have one about
the other. We can let I have. They make the stories,
we tell the stories or their stories. And again we
are every way we can find podcasts, uh spreakers, Spotify,
iTunes everywhere. We're downoated in forty three countries, and quite

(01:21):
often we are feet spot dot COM's top ten Canadian
best paranormal podcasts. So that's our thank you, thank you.
I'm to check this feet.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I was on town.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I just got back at one o'clock this afternoon. I
was going for four days. Usually checked it me now
and then. So speaking of out of town, we were
in four Gold. There's a place called Heritage Village, which
is really cool. I don't mean why Winnipege doesn't do it.
I know you have little for it.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Gearing.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Uh, Calgary has a Heritage Village which is turber cool.
We really need like something like that. Wicklish anyway, I'm
very superstitious, uh so, and and I like share any
things and lose concentration. But the Heritage Village was amazing,
and parently, of course, like with anything long in the

(02:07):
houses is very haunted there. And it's called the Houston House.
And I guess the gentleman died in the house because
when you read the plaque, he was caught in the snowstone.
He graduated really sick, but he lived for another three months,
so I guess he lived. Fud was waving from the snowstorm.
I guess he died in the house because they said
he died.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Three months later.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's called the Houston House and it's aid the Heritage Village.
So I don't I hear a down in Farewell. It's
not just for shopping, like don't don't invest in the
American economy all the time. I mean you can if
you watch, if I stay there, I know a dance
from many parts. Lots of stuff got in any event,
I won't want too much. But let's do the second part.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Show second part of the where we would love to
have people come down and tell their story. So we
got Chelsea, who's kindly keep track of who had going
to come down and speak with us? Do we have
a name, Chelsea? Oh Mary? Gary?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I remember Gary. Here's her last month on the place. Well,
he was telling me. He was telling me some in
the Internet International last month. He was telling me some
of the stories him.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
And his friends.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So definitely right, Gary, pass in my Mica.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
You don't have a stand this week?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
All right?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Come up here?

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Ye do it?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
D's too if you want to see let's keep them idea?
Are there? Garry?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Are kay?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Do you mean everyone? I would always interested? But paranormal?

Speaker 7 (03:39):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (03:40):
I was uh also on uh I called it June
and was a head coach for at the International.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I guess uh Legion can on the asine. Has anybody
been on a border or Arctpota in Ntloma?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Do you know all the beautiful flowers?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I usually I recker for thirty.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Years as a head coach for the Legion Pletic camp
in nineteen ninety four. I guess all the coaches basketball
of all of all Juo Equestrian We get together at
nighttime after the kids are.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Asleep, have a fire, you know, a few drinks.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
Well one this Thursday evening one of my coaches was
from Beru and he was a.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Shaman, and all my shaman, so he can speak to
his spirits good.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
And so we're here.

Speaker 8 (04:37):
There was probably four coaches around the fire. There was
a great fire and then Sylvio for shaman, says, everybody
joined hands. So all joining hands in the circle, and
I could feel energy coming through my arms, through my chest,

(04:57):
through my other arm, and so I asked first on
this side, do you feel energy coming through you? Yes,
there's something this side, yes, And I thought something is
gonna happen. Sylvia says, there's a steer coming.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Over there in one of the cabins to our fire.
So I just thought something's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
Then we're the toughest guies in the circle stands up
and breaks the energy. Sylvio, who is over three hundred
palms sixty three, he went flying out of his chair.
I went to him and he was just shaking, and
he's the shaming and he said, the steward is angry

(05:41):
because the circles got broken.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right.

Speaker 8 (05:45):
So that's Tearsday. So this is such a fark story.
So Saturday, I'm driving home I get caught Forrispedian about
their simply.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
So items.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
Looking at the ticket, see can I get into this ticket?
You know, be guilty in an explanation? Wow, I look, oh,
smell my last nameng. So I go to court three
seventy three Broadway two weeks later, starting in lying waiting
the CEO judge, and then I see a biker friend.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
He says, oh us over He says, uh, I won
my case. I said, good for you. Hopefully all win too.

Speaker 8 (06:29):
So I get in front of a female judge and
I said, I'm pleaning guilty with an explanation, and she says,
what's your explanation? I said, the RCB officer stolled my
last namail. Okay, remember this was August ninth, the ticket
nineteen ninety four. Okay, so last night ticket. To the

(06:52):
female judge, she looks out of a computer. There's something
wrong here. Your ticket is not an appearing a vote
the computer. She goes back to the hard copy from
the officer and she just says to me your end
of your ticket. And I said, well that's great, but
why am I out of my ticket? She said that

(07:14):
the officer wrote down that he stopped to August ninth,
nineteen twenty one, nineteen twenty one. When I came to
the church, it was nineteen ninety four on my ticket
it changed to nineteen twenty one. Now, I told my

(07:34):
uh sister, I said something weirds have here?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I said my mom. I sure said my mom had
died a year before, And I said, where is my one?
And she says nineteen twenty one. So it was my
mom's spirit coming over the fire. That's that's my explanation goes,
how could my ticket change? I can't know how to

(08:01):
go away? Yeah, very closely. Thank you so much for sharing.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, I'll do you one of my stories. Okay, so
some of people are aware so of being who haven't
been around these or to any of our investigations, don't know.
But I started I was going to pick out Long
Group as a client. So the house that I was
living in for about four and a half five years
was really really active. It started out with my young son.

(08:34):
He was maybe two and a half three years old
at that point. We moved from an apartment and we
had kept his room very dark for sleeping, like we
put a blanket up over the wall. So it was
nice and dark, didn't have any lights, and it started
with him asking us for a night light, and you know,

(08:56):
being a mom, and you know, we're now in a
house that doesn't have broke w blanket. It's not super
dark in the room, it's just lines. So people, Mary,
why aboudy, why do you need a night light? And
he looked at me and it was almost like, well,
how do you know yism like the dark Man comes

(09:18):
out of my closet. It's like, oh, what's uh, yeah,
we'll get to night light. But it it actually progressed
from there, so we experienced these like footsteps. You know.
We had everything set up in the basement and you

(09:40):
could and it sounds like a dance party on the
floor about us. We had my son's toys that would
turn on even though we need to take a botteries
out of them. So then all of a sudden start
playing music and you're like, I took the batteries out
of it up today that should not be on. We

(10:01):
evening got to the point where we found a handbrit
on the wall in our kitchen. So our son had
gone to sleep. We went downstairs to you know, enjoy
our evening watch some TV, and when we came up
to go to bed, there was this bright red amperant
on our kitchen wall and it was larger than my

(10:24):
son's hands but smaller than mine. So we never were
able to explain that I had somebody sit down in
the bed beside me, and they were heavy enough that
I actually rolled to the middle of my bed and
it was no one there. I think that's what probably
freaked me out the most, is just feeling that, like

(10:48):
you know, actually feeling that there's somebody in my bed
with me and I can't see them. Yeah, that was
just yeah. And on the topic of shadow Man, other
than the dark Man, we had a lot of shadow
Man sightings at her house. So we had a very
well waterway that went from basically I know and to

(11:10):
make it worse and it's like green checkered. Oh, it
was really newa like it's We had lots of people
who came through there, including the the paranormal group, who
told us that they felt it was more of a
portal than just a haunting.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
That's a bad one.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But we would regularly see a shadow man dark in
shoe my son's room, so we had no issues believing
him when he said that the dark man came out
of his closet because it was a really more no,
no he had at this one. Okay, yes, that house
that we had lived in was built sin in the
nineteen sixties. Yes, if I can hatred Jetee in second,

(11:53):
So what means she had done in the past and
we haven't done lately. Like, it's very very time consuming
when when people give us an address of a very
very old house, we've been able to actually match up
and do the house history as to foose diving the
house and the sightings that people have were the things
that they've experienced, Like it's it's so empowering. It's like,

(12:14):
oh my god, we found our ghost or a name
of the person that's haunting the house. We've done that.
But again, it's a very long and tedious artists artist
journey to try and do a house history on a little,
really little housible. We've done it. I did start doing
it for Ashley. I'm not finished because it was a
dead end. But the one interesting thing on this house

(12:35):
that she was renting a creepy thing. What you're quite dead,
very good and dead? Yeah, total, But that it's because
like she said, it was built in sixties. So the
thing was that strip of land that that house and
a bunch of mothering houses were built on was almost

(12:58):
like it was like a pastor. It was a was
like farming in the middle of the city at the
school that was there when she lived there and is
still there to this day. It pre dates the property,
you know what I'm saying. So I almost feel like
there must have been some kind of accident just based

(13:20):
on everything that we always experienced and better research and everything,
there must have been something connected with the school, because.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, So when the team came to my house and
actually investigated, my partner Kelly was there, and it was
really late at night. She's better telling the story because
it's her story. Yeah, it was really late at night.
They've done the investigation, quitman was starting to die. They

(13:50):
were getting ready to call it quits, and all of
a sudden they were Well, they were in my bedroom
and one of the investigators was with Star hyperveenerating the
mother like OK, and so she's asked him what what
when the one investigator who was hyper bay birthday and said,

(14:12):
something touched me, like something touched my hand. Anyway's recommended
this this gentleman who was an investigator with us. He's
like six three six four, Like, he's a big guy.
You haven't liked to be a big guy and be like, oh,
I'm not scared of anything, and who he is hyperberating
because something touched him and we're not. We're not blocking

(14:35):
that though, no, no, but that that's just like you've
been expected. Yeah, And the other investigator I said that
they felt something as wrong. So Kellie looked up and
she saw she said, she saw this like cloud on
my sealy when we had turned off the furnace before
we left, we turned off the Wi file windows were

(14:55):
closed and there's no reason to have a cloud in
your house. So she started snapping pictures with her home
and what she found was that on one of the
pictures you could actually see the outline of a little
girl standing on my bed. One of the other investigators
said had been there, had said, you know, I didn't

(15:16):
wanna buias anybody. I didn't wanna tell anybody this. He's like,
but I have a friend who lived in this house before,
actually before leave, and he used to see the little
girl in the house and I feel, I mean, it
might be a stretch. Who knows what if one of
these children from the school back in the day like
just wandered over into this farm house yard with implements

(15:40):
and outshirts and all this shit, and like, I mean,
anything's possible. I mean it, you know, like just because
there was just nothing on this land for like forty years,
like they want these houses. Nothing It was just attached
to one property d title for one farmhouse at the
opposite end. So I feel like something the faris happened

(16:00):
with little kids wanting you a little kids are adventurous,
like shit happens. It's sad, But you know, I I
don't know, I don't know. I'm just so far what
I've found, and then I am going to pursue this
lore when I have time, because I'm don't have a
lot of time sometimes, Like I mean, it's very consuming.
We did one history search. It took me, I swear,
to go out eight hours just to show like it
does take a lot of time to be able to

(16:21):
go through records and everything where you can find on
the internet. But I will see if I can still
find anything. But yeah, which is crazy anyway, Sorry, Well
I'll be ni. I don't believe in that house anymore.
We were renting, and uh we ended up buying a
house sitting way out after about four and a half
five years I was living there. We didn't leave right
away after we had the investigation either, So we made

(16:44):
our peace with whatever was there, and he left it behind.
I hope, so, I hope. So yeah, So if we can,
it was the next person we would like to come out.
George George George d Alright, don't be scared of the microphone.

(17:07):
I'll try it out to be nervous.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'll try out to be nervous.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's a sever Okay.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
So I used to live in with I'm I'm a
secular spiritist by the way, So I study. Uh, I'm
a secular spirited So I study, and basically that's I
been kind of scientifically. Uh, I'll back it from the

(17:38):
three Mediums of Spirits, writing in three mediums using automatic rating.
So there's a person who about community medis you who've
uh collected a whole bunch of these things from like
thousands of spirits and uh collected them into these books.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So this is what I said.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
So this is where I go lot of more trouble.
But so I lived in Elmwood and my partner lived
with me, and this was in your old family home,
so it had me where my.

Speaker 8 (18:14):
Father were.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
And we were living there, and uh, one night there
was kind of a.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
You know, there's kind of a.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Threshfold in between sleep and wakefulness where your spirit is
more awake, more uh perceptive. And so once when I
was in that stage, there was I looked to the
bedroom door and there was a shadow of person standing there.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
He was.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
He was pretty tall.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I could tell that.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
He was an OU male just by intuition, and he
seemed to be very upset, and and so I looked
over at him and I said, what.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Do you what do you want?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Kind of contractational maybe not the best idea, but this
was before I do better. So after that I kind
of felt a rush and I was forced into full wakefulness.
And then uh, my partner woke up. She was right
beside me and she's like, did you see something? And

(19:26):
I'm like, yeah, well did you see you? Cause she
said she saw a shout of person standing in the
door and then she saw it fly away over us.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
So that was weird.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And then so.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
Later in that.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
House there was also another instance where I had uh
I was coming home.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
Usually I don't feel things when I'm fully awake, but
this time I felt the sphere go around me, couldn't
rush rush around me, and I could tell it was
uh not nice, and it.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Was it was it was focused on me. And then
it flew.

Speaker 10 (20:10):
It flew into the lock of the outside door. And
then when I walked up to the lock and tried
to open it and my key snapped right, it felt
like it was Nea. You know, you know that outer
candy that they make stuff out of him. So it
felt like outer candy, like they just growke it just
crook in my head. And then so I couldn't get

(20:30):
it right cause the they didn't Uh, part of the
key was stuck in the block, so we couldn't get it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Later on we moved out of that house. There was
some other stuff there that the foss that.

Speaker 10 (20:48):
Would go on sometimes and uh uh yeah, I didn't
really make too much of it, but uh it.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Was something that uh it was something that was just happened,
I guess, but uh, there was there was a spirit
that rest at.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
That And Colin, did your family home at school? I
did see.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
What if my dad grew up there? With an over
fifty years, I think, yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Do I mean in that?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, the hoose that we're living in now at xeni Woles, Okay,
it's nineteen tenlow.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
So the basement there reminded me like the basement of
the kay the museum just reminded me of my basement
at home.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
So I'm not.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I didn't feel uncomfortable at all. But yeah, n I
have the spirits there too, so that's question.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It was good then used to.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
I.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I would, I would.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I would enter that half a week stage sometimes and
I would see the shadow spirits standing over a why
or what they do? And they didn't.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
They weren't doing a paralysis thing or anything like that.
But they were standing over me and doing something to
my choppers. Right, Okay, so they were They're doing something
to me and I didn't like it. Right, So what
I did was I covered up. I covered the choppers
that they were that they were like it was my.

Speaker 11 (22:27):
Belly, So I I put one hand on my heart
to going on my belly and then and then they
would get frustrated, which was fine with me.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
It didn't unusually have make ups. Once I had a
cool bunch of them around me, and they were kind
of they were kind of one of them was kind
of teaching the other ones, oh.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Which was really weird.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
And this my get your dimensional the ones you think, well, uh,
I can see what they might be from the spirit
to this one. Right.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
But so so what we're what we're about in the
spiritism is that the reason.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Why these spirits look like shadows is because because they're pure.
So the more involved their spirits get, the more they
use the darkness and they start to radiate about it.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So if you've ever.

Speaker 12 (23:22):
Seen, if you've ever seen a good spirit, usually they
may light instead of darkness, and this is due to
their their their level of purity, their level of evolution
sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
And so it's like the darkness. I know it's scared,
but it's I it's like that for a reason. And
not all I from what you're saying, you can see
that not all of them are malicious, right right.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
So I sometimes communicate piritutive uh, communication in the spirits
as well. So once I had a a spirit telling
me that I should that the the spirit that you
saw first.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
In Elmwood in our family car was my grandfather and
he was upset. It it makes sense right cause if
you're if you die, you're.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Lost in the spirit work for a while, and you
come home expecting to find your wife in.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
The bedroom, right instead he finds us there.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
And so he's probably confused and and upset that, uh
that we're in this home and uh and his wife
is not there and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
So, so I I was asked to call him and
speak with him, so I Dutch, uh, just to talk
with the little both.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Kind of like passing over. And it's confusing that they
don't know what they're supposed.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
To be doing.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
And this is what spirits and pasions is.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
They they kind of get stuck because they're focused on
the material work, on material things and uh.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So this causes them because what who are the spirits
focused on?

Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's the only thing they can perceive, so they can
perceive all the good spirits that are trying to help
them because they're not.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
So by kind of give know of that's to ten
one of us to uh explain.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
The situation and why they there's only environment, Why does
only from you know self to.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Be bothering us?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
And and uh, like why he should be moving It's
it's kind of a pro sets that spirit just do
whats yours in order to help them move on.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
So I did this uh with my grandfather just intuitively
and and after that you didn't see any see anything.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Oh that's good, great, that's all we know nothing do
you was a large as well, so yeah, yeah, except
in uh guess would say that there is a stirit.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
In in our as all the thing I asked him
in their name as do you think check out my house?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
An I, I would like to check your house out
for sure? Haven into contact. Yes day we saw us
church okay a like fut oy alright?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Any oh.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Our next king that's a Michael? Yeah you yeah, yeah's
something that's so I don't lay anything to maybe. I
was like mass uh lest anything about it because we
got to be reading by my home myners. Yes here,
very need set think about there.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
It's fun and it's hot.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I don't want you want to read the crazy
it's discussing. Let's just talk about ghots. Bring on the ghots. Yes, well,
I kind of two different also like multiple stories with
two different experiences. One was recently with uh astrom Kelly
out of investigation that when do you do in antle group? Yeah,
just the things they believe they do that I actually

(27:41):
got that cousin, like the the experience experience, Yeah, the
siren experience. I say experience. That's okay. I don't like
to share.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Something that's uh you know, the.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Dich nice topic pictures like the shadow Man and uh,
I don't start this.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Just kind of started where I met my girlfriend cause
she's like into like rubble stuff and I never was
really into that. Trying to stop it's on her. It's yeah, no,
I actually, I mean I was actually my fault because uh,
she wasn't a BIGI boy and I end up the
girls going a beach course. H yeah, I mean yeah,
I was a nulling, you know, and I thought to

(28:26):
be functory or food around if this study. You know,
I was in a closet but no welcome talking to
people the whole happy are well. I think I'm got
a a over a schooling around. How seems any fell
about this? Yeah, I as you say it, I like
trying that investigation cause I was like Closter and I
was like, oh, you know, you guys will BASI happ
into that next two I'd like it too, And uh

(28:49):
I didn't step with the Zouegia board in her room,
and then the boy'd end up molding in a closet
and so I threw it out and they gets molded,
and she's like, you know if that's not a probably
because thos an alegia boy, like because a shit, you
anyway really cares. And then weird stuff starting to happen.
I mean lots of like lots of weird stuff. I'm
just gonna talk a shadow man stuff to kind of

(29:11):
staying tonight's topic. So the first sighting of this being was, uh,
she got into me from the bathroom it's connected to
like her bedroom in the hallway, and she walked in
there and I was, you know, looking, I don't know why.
It was just like, oh, she's gone. I love doing them, okay, boy,
it's just staying there and I see this this like
shadow callably against a shadow going from one corner of

(29:33):
the room and slowly it was like really slow. It
wasn't it fast. And I literally saw it like move
from one corner and go and into the bathroom, right
And I was thinking, that's pretty weird, right, like that
don't learning at it. So I'm like, let's just be irrational,
like let's be rational. I remember that windown. Okay, let's
try and make the shadow. I'm going, okay, that's not

(29:55):
doing it. Okay, that's I'd out on the roof now
trying to like, okay, how to read make the sho
out of nothing? And like I tell her this, you know,
after she comes out like hey, like something weird happened,
like a shadow like moved to the back room. She's like,
you're why do you make it stup up like that?
It makes stuff up a lot too, which is why
generally don't tell stories, cause I as they make that
so much stuff that She's like, it's so hard, you know,

(30:16):
it's so hard for taking seriously. And I was like no,
like this was like really weird. And this leads into
another experience like that experience. I don't think about it
too often, like it's very very strange, but again, I
think we all experienced strange things a lot.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
That's like, it's be rational.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's I've most I've stand as coincidence. It's everything happens
for a reason. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's that's
what happens. What the seconds experience of the shadow was
like the one that I think about a lot, and
I was lying in bed well as you do, and
you're sleeping right out stand it's like generally, and I
felt like something was watching me. And this wasn't like

(30:55):
you know, we talk about what's like the first seek
sleep prophasis. It wasn't something like that, you know, I
never had it tass like, yeah, I was like I
also been watching. So like I woke up and I
saw like a man sitting on my girlfriend's dresser in
their room, like just staring at me. And I'm like,
that's really weird, you know, Like I was, I was

(31:18):
so set. I I want to grab my phone right
but I was literally shaking. I was shaking so hard.
But my girlfriend woke up and she's like, you keep
doing I'm like, I couldn't even speak. I was like,
put the light out, there's nothing there. She's like, what
the hell are you cheating?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You don't go to bed.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's three in the morning, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I'm like, there was a guy.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
And again she's like, why are you Why do you
need some stuff all the time? You live to wake
up with me? You're looking stuff up all the time.
Don't put your phone to day, you know. Yeah, those
are nice story about this shadow figure's lots of weird
stuff in her room. And so I thought I warned
you guys up. You guess loved up down. Yeah, I

(31:57):
did this guy here that's not funny, lot loss stuff,
you know, musicians and people. We kind of prings' back.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
He likes to walk out.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I do.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Uh, I get carried the right time. And so let's
let's step go. Yeah, we know how we don't help out. Okay,
let's get into that now. I really wanna share of
a show that stuff, which is like weird, but maybe
you can, he explained. Maybe I'm just like totally insane,
you know whatever. So, uh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
W M.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Parono the group? What a make spiring around the group?
That's your name, right, especially n Parmal wanna pike here
a long if you wanna get strike cause I want
you guys check them out if you haven't seen them,
it's it's really cool stuff. They have to actually and
kill they do. So I've put in this joy for
it was last Thursday, correct, right, last Friday? Okay, totally
burning in here like heats get into me now, I

(32:47):
shouldn't have word of the Michael Myers anyway, so we
got slid up into groups and shut off in the
basin of uh a Saint Jeans Historical Museum, right, and
it's like this, what was that building? It was, uh
it's an administration building and an old administration building. Yes, yes,
here's you're having the beast, you know, and killing was sing.

(33:09):
We really start off hearing them because like it's really
creepy and we could generally get lots of they're on
our little type of vibes. And so we're looking through
all the different year and the yelds. This was a
really cool experience, like even if nothing happened, which stuff flappens.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
So keep listening.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm not just like, you know, get to the ends
like literal recrementing. Sorry. So I'm looking at all the year.
There's like the EMF readers, and there's different heat sensors
and heat guns and all this stuff. And we're trying
to get used to it. You know again, I wanna
do this like open minded, not trying to like crap
on anything, cause you know, uh uh I think it's

(33:44):
really interesting. Right, I'm going seeing the shadow Man another day.
It was the fun with this and uh, it's getting
all these readings in this one corner. It's one corner.
And I was like, okay, like I was even talking
to killing or make this thing go a lot black,
and she was saying, well, you know, oh go a lot.
But when i'd get this staring off, I'm like, don't care.
Why way, I'd go there and.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Do some readings whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So I determine this is the area, and then our
calling showman is like the usual pendle on yes, and
I've never used this again, and it's like basically they
have like a neck long necklace with the big they
were a tactic, Oh yes, those are yeah kinds and stuff.
I'm not touching all that back cause I I took
us like my girlfriend to argue it out. Cause essentially

(34:30):
you can use this to talk to spirits. So you
start with yes or no questions and let's he asked
and he go school one way know this from the
other that sugested it, and there's some kids there. They
were saying, oh, I'm talking to people. There are things
are going with this, you know what a wo yes.
They then okay, I don't know that's really working, and
I'll try this, so I take it and again all way,

(34:52):
just try to look this with my hand on her
and I'm saying, you know, yes or no, okay?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Am I there?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
And I and the it's like it it moves. I'm
not moving it. I'm thinking cause you know again my
girlfriend's they're calling, why are you met some with me?
Cause is anybody yet? Why are you moving this? Okay?
I's such a theater at ask this question, you know,
and that and I don't yes, okay, h am I
f you you know, and there's just you know that
and it does like a little like again like I'm

(35:21):
not touching this thing, which is like again you and
my ks kind of kind a big talking about thing.
This is really weird stuff, guys. So I go through
a bunch of different questions and uh, there's a there's
some kids again they're with they're condoms and they're saying, oh,
I'm talking to prisoners and going to line. So I
ask you, oh, are you a prisoner? And it says nope.

(35:43):
And again I'm not moving this thing at like at all.
And the stranger there is not that you know, I'm
not moving it. It's that when the question is done,
it just does stop. It just drops or you know,
you'd think you're you know, swinging something and it'll slowly
comes like this like it's slimly, then stops the completely
detent like at the end of we're building. My girlfriend

(36:06):
is there, hopefully she can back me up, can back up? Yes,
O carrying out of yes the Clokes'm not making this out.
So anyway, I ask a few questions and we get
to this person's not a person every day works there, okay.
And then for my last question, I just because I'm
kind of she alasked if I was wasting the serious

(36:26):
time and it said yes. I was very nice, said
I said, you know what. There enough, So we go
out to the next building. So that's the administration building,
and again we're feeling a little weird. This is weird.
I've never use this. It's moving, but we're trying to
be rational, you know, like maybe and we's just the

(36:49):
wind in the east end windows that are closed, you know,
we we we're both just hallucinating. Anyway, swing the le
Le Brown House. Correct, that's where Ashon was so she
can touch someone. This next part here, this is all
very true, true stuff. So she's explaining again all the

(37:09):
different tools that are in this building and out of
the court line, I see like a flashing and I'll
get back to that later. It's all really important right now.
I just like, what about that seed in your mind?
I saw a little flashing and I was like, well,
that's whatever. I'm trying to pay attention. So the device
I use in this real it's not at the it
was what what is it? What is sensory aggravation glasses?

(37:31):
Sensory aggravation glasses, And essentially it's just like over stimulate you.
So the glasses of flashing red lights like trying to
give me, like, uh, a seizure essentially, we're trying to
get put right a seizure essentially. And then I've put
in some earbuds and has static you know still and
then my favorite like there's some tic text just on
the table here and I'm asking one of what it

(37:53):
lives for it and there's what interesting? Actually, yeah, there
are So I take basic in the whole model, you know,
because I needed to really get the experience. It's a
doorsmation and when I first put it on, I don't
know what to expect, right, Like, I don't know what
anything is gonna to do. You just would put in
on them I don't know what it's supposed to do.
But right away I'm feeling uneasy and I'm starting to

(38:14):
hear things like and it what, it was so hyper
realistic that I took everything off, and like, are you
talking to me? She said no, like no one's talking
to me. It's like, please put the stuff back on,
and please get I'll go get. So I book the
stuff back on and I'm really tryna just let everything go,
you know, just focus on the flash and the lights,

(38:34):
the sounds, and I'm just supposed to tilishly anything that
I'm experiencing, hearing, feeling. But we're there for a point
a while, you know, and they give s things happening.
Maybe I'm hearing things and saying, okay, I'm hearing the crack,
I'm hearing some moans or something, you know, but it
could be like this, you know, Oh I'm hearing science.
All well, it pends it a fire truck here ten.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Seconds, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But then I I feel something feel something on my hand.
I It's literally I I visitally out of the cord
and I saw my hand like the Poltz.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Okay, I feel something on my hand right I don't
know what that means. And then I felt something scratched
my neck. Okay, let's kind of like things that you know,
like right now my my brows at you.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
You know what was out me a or ghost?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
You know?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
So yeah, it's a more time that says I take
it off from like, I don't know if anything happened,
and I Lea's woken an Ashy. I actually looking at Kylie.
I'm like, okay, so what's going on here? And actually
doorto Walter I kind of basically told me that actually.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Asked the spirit to touch my hand.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh okay, but nothing would happened, So let's say, okay,
uh could you toomuch Cohen's neck. And then as soon
as she she said that something touched my hand, something
touched my neck. That's basically again yeah, I'm weird, right
like I after I like she took out a lot

(40:02):
and be like, okay, forget that the wind that was married.
We got something touched in my hand and my neck
right after we said that. And then we're talking about
this again, this light and and she they were kind
of talking about it. It's basically it's big strong lights
and you you have to you have to like stuff
on them to make these lights after it. And I'll say,
you know, I don't want to say this earlier cause

(40:24):
I didn't know what it did, but those lights went
up in order, really, I like, yeah, like and shit,
you know, I was like they were going off during
your thing. I like, I just thought that's what they did. So,
like I was talking finally, and there's a pretty lots
of like child spirits in the house, and she thinks like,
maybe as a child, because generally children really like me,
I'm cause I'm just a big old group igness. And

(40:46):
yeah I did. Maybe it was a child that interacted
with me, and perhaps they were right there in the
room when she was explaining everything. So yeah, that was
that's pretty crazy. So yeah, yeah, and then lot to
clows it all off. You go in to him, right,
we got something literally touched me. Ask someone else cause
I guess I don't know this timing himself again, we're

(41:08):
trying to be skeptical, you know, at over a book
and asked this person, hey, yeah, something was friendly? Was
it working finish? She said yeah, yeah, Like I was
talking to someone and said, oh, what was it a prisoner?
Cause again I'm you'reing these kids talking to a prisoner.
She said no, it was the warden. I said really,
he said yeah, I was talking to the warden. So

(41:28):
so cause she said, well why message we can I
talk to someone and asked if they worked there and
then said yes. So it's like again, it's so weird
a where like two people confirming each other's stories about
the same person and everyone shout out to go home
over work for uh from not definitely shot from out

(41:48):
uh oh Joe if you don't want to be touched
by those, don't know, but there was. That was my
experience thinking from a going around with spou thank you
over Andrea, come on up your next compleatant. We can yeah, yeah,
we could get stand you guys, felt und if the

(42:11):
statle we have a couple of eightstro falcon open night
paper are welcome up.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Well, very many years ago, I lived in a home
that there was an awful lot of activity in and
we'd have guests over that things would happen in front
of like ten people. So I had a great interest
in it. And I used to work in the salon,
and we you know, it was a small salon, so

(42:44):
everybody would talk and I would tell a story, and
then all of a sudden, we were in an older
neighborhood of Elmwood and Easchool, doming so there's like big
old houses around and stuff, so often clients would start
talking book stories also, so.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
A friend of mine, her and I decided we were
going to write a book on goals.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Stories and try to find factual stuff about it before
we would do the story.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
So anyways, we ended up we did quite a few.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Her husband though, was from Yugoslavia and lived in an
area that was had a lot of witches and gypsies,
so he was very not happy with us writing this.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
So whenever we.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Would go and we would do an interview with people,
we would find out what they had to say about
their place, and then we would spend months trying to
research it and if we found any factual stuff that
it would be part of our stories. But as we
interviewed them, we'd always have it was like a police tape,

(43:55):
and we would use one tape that we would record
them with and then when we go home so that
we could remember how to decipher things. So anyways, we
had you know, we had lots of clients and there
were lots of amazing stories, which I do have to
say there was so we were about seven stories in
and I had one client that they had.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
It was.

Speaker 6 (44:20):
It's like a mansion and it's in the Frasers Grove area,
went fol Bil Home.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
They were a really young couple when they got this home.
They got it for really cheap.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
It was a family of history that were the only
people that lived in this home. And then I guess
it was in the late seventies, they had sold it
to another family, but the family swore it was haunted.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
And but when they first bought it, they got it
fairly cheap.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
And then by the time this young couple bought the house,
there was three stories in this house and a whole
main level.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Everything going upstairs was boarded up.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
So they were like, oh yeah, and they had soaked
tons of money into this house and only on the
main levels. So anyways, this couple guard were really really
cheap and they started working on this house. And they
had two children at the time, and they were a
young couple. They were starting to make very good with

(45:26):
another business. And anyways, at the time, she had a dog,
a Border Collie, and the dog would kind of get
spooked in one area of the house.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
So what happened was she had asked us if we
would come to see.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Her house, and because they had built onto this mansion,
and she had said that the dog goes crazy at
the new edition of the basement. So we're like, oh, sure,
you know, like it's dot lots history. Well, we'd always
gone into the homes and we would court. When we
went in this it was like day, the most beautiful

(46:08):
time I've ever seen. And my friend and I both
said we'll go outside and we all discuss.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
What we wanted to with this house, because there was
just this feeling in this house.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
So we did a walk through the house and before
we started to interview her, and there were three stories
and in an area that went to the other part
of this mansion, there was an area probably as big
as from here that wall, and in it was just
a couch and a really nice fireplace and a bridge

(46:42):
that went off to their master bedroom and down below
was a games room.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Like it was just beautiful.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
But as we got in this area, it was the
area that bothered us probably the most.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
And when we got to where this staircase went, you
could see where their dog had worn holes in the
floor from running around. So we went outside with this
woman and it was like overlooking the Red River, so
there were no neighbors close by, and we started to record,

(47:15):
and as we were talking to her, she was telling
us about how when she was a child she had
night terrors, and then when they went to build onto
this home, her night to heirs started again.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
And at the same time, she was pregnant with her youngest.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Child, who.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Was a great ked, but nobody would sleep over at
her house because there was too much activity. So we
were in the backyard with her talking to her, and
she said, what had happened is I found that when
we talked.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
To a lot of people about.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
The shadow people, because what would happen is I can
honestly say, out of ninety percent of the people we talked,
they would always say.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
I didn't see anything, I saw a shadow. And then
we'd say, well, what was the shadow?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Was it a girl or a boy?

Speaker 5 (48:09):
And they knew and they would be able.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
To tell you when you ask questions what they were
dressed in, whatever they were from. So I think often
we see more than we're willing to say. So I
think sometimes shadow people are really spirits that we just can't.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Imagine visually see him.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Right.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
So anyway, she had had two shadow people in her home,
and she said one was a small boy.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
After we asked her, she said, well, I don't know,
you know, he said, and she said a boy and
it was probably from the eighteen nineties.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I think it was.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
Well, the more questions we asked, we realized that she
was actually The people that lived in this home were
also very involved with Hamilton House, the doctor from Hamilton House.
So in this three story home, in the top level
where this bridge came, there was actually a seance room
that had once been there, which they had sand blasted

(49:08):
the walls, but you could still see the red in
the bricks. And below was a veranda which when they
went to do all their work. As we were talking, we.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Found out that there had been When they went to
dig the basement attached to the house, they found stuff.
And I said what kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
They said, clothes and stuff and I said clothes and
what stuff like bones? And she said yes, so with
small bones that they had found. They were a young
couple and they didn't tell anyone because they knew that
they would have to stop, of course building because it
was a historical home.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
So she had told us.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
About different things that had happened with like a man
and a top hat right there had ended up in
bed with him, and her husband totally did not agree
with any of these things. But yet he had come
into the home one time and went across the bridge
to their bedroom, and she was having what she thought

(50:10):
were night tears of this boy that was a demon
in bedroom over her husband, and she was pushing this
getting away. And the next morning, when they were sitting
at the table, she said, he said you're oh, he
said to their child. Their son said like, why were

(50:31):
you in bed with us? And she said, no, no,
I was just dreaming that there was this keep in
bed And they said no. I looked over and I
seen the boy in bed with us. So when we
were doing our real interview, and I had asked when
she said there was stuff, I said, why didn't you stop?
And they said, well, we didn't want to have to

(50:52):
stop building, and it being a historical site.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Times, we did our.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Stuff and we went home and we were sitting in
the keep and we're listening to the tape which has
nothing else on it with them, and as we were listening,
there were you could hear different sounds.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
And we were in the like right along the river,
so there was no other people. And when I said.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
That you found like bones and stuff and she said,
well yeah, And then I said, why didn't you stop?

Speaker 5 (51:24):
And you heard loud?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Why did you stop?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
And there were many voices after on that.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
So a friend of ours, my daughter is not in
their head because a friend of mine has got junoal
words and he would work with sound and stuff.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
So he had taken we stopped the book. My friend's
husband said, nope, you guys are messing with terrible things.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
He took this deep back and he said, whatever I
get a chance, I'm gonna, you know, try to separate
everything and see what we can find.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
And there was a Halloween knight, we were having a
Halloween party at.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Our house and he called into your as a grown
man and he's a big guy, and he was like,
oh my gosh, there are so many voices on this
this tape and he put it all on a CD.
And then NBC at the time wanted to come into
this house and investigate the house, but the family, of
course couldn't allow it because they had a legally dug

(52:26):
and found things and moved on.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
So anyways, that's my story.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah, it was real. He was not disappointed. Yeah, so
when he chose to me, I'd like to talk to.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Shirt, say he's got a few stories.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
My other sister there has a wicked cans have grown
too after I've got a couple of things on. Oh sure,
baby was amazing. Thank you too much of one more.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Yes, we have.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Victoria down. She was on the trials. She was free Saturday,
true Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. Oh there are number Friday.
There was a psychic fair. Psychic Fairs. Was the arranger

(53:19):
of that. She does all the beautiful psychic fairs. O h,
I sorry, uh no, there was stick Psyche eighteen six
mediums and mine from this market. Yes, yes, so Victoria Pigtoria.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
It's no, that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
It was get my story. I'm told a little bit
at the fair, but I'm gonna tell them a little
bit of a longer version. It's not gonna have the
podcast for a couple of weeks, I think these Yeah, yeah,
few weeks. Okay, so it's quite a long time.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I'm not gonna give too many details about like where
it was just protect identities and stuff. But the year
was two thousand and seven. I was seventeen and had
a I'm day with my girlfriends and we have to
sleep over, and there's living in the room for me
on the bed, so I lucky, mean I get to
sleep on the floor and my friends pass up really quickly,

(54:13):
and I guess I have a lot on my mind
and I really can't fall asleep super easily, so that's safe.
Come on, mother around here. So and then the bed's
here and closing my eyes trying to go to sleep,
and uh fell to topic. My father felt tap tap top.
I'm like, okay, that's weird, Like U must.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Sleep my friend, she must.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Be see what I'm up to. So I'm like, okay, hey, hey,
what's up? Just that asleep and we're like hey, and
she's sleeping this way. She turns around. She's like what
do you want Like, she's like, I'm sleeping.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I'm like, oh shit, okay, wo it's not you.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Oh sorry, I ever got a little bit of the story.
There's a tap tap top.

Speaker 13 (55:05):
It's like, oh shit, what is that? And then they
go like this and then you okay, there's a hand
around here. And then you reach to the black Oh
my god, it's a wall. And I felt a man's
arm with hair on it.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Oh, and I like, oh shit. And I was like,
I don't think she has a like fake bony parts
around so you thokkay, and you felt like a man
felt the hair and then yes. Then I'm like, hey, hey,
we're awake, and she's not awake. And then she turns around.
She's like, what do you want? And then I'm like, okay,

(55:40):
first of all, you're facing this way. Second all you're asleep.
It's like third of all, I.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Touch her hand.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm like, yeah, that's nothing. And I fell like I'm
my counts fun, Okay, go back to the please. And
I had the hardest time sleeping that night. Okay, I
really could think.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, it was hard.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
And up until that point, I grew up in the
religious my friends, and when you had like weird experiences
happened to them, nothing that ever happened to me up
until that point. So yeah, my heart just like actually
keeps meeting because it was that scary. It was the
scariest thing that has ever happened to me. And I

(56:24):
had a dream a couple of years ago of the
house and I saw a man lying on the top
of the house. I was like, okay, he's in a snoop. Okay,
this is a weird dream. He opened his eyes and
went in white and I'm like, shit, he'ps looking at me.
So I think it's still there. And that's my story. Yeah,

(56:48):
things seem so much for sharing. Have got experience e
Since I just wondered that open it up for her?
I told her, did not open.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Up things for you?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Like have you ever seen things since?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
That's freaky.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Though. I didn't come into like spirituality til like twenty nineteen,
okay about like gray Easter time. Oh yes, so like
more a little spiritually than I was when I was seventeen. Mum, Yeah,
but yeah at that time only watch scary movies. Nothing
ever had happened to me before start not free but wae, well,
thank you so much. Awesome. So now I know some

(57:23):
people have left, but hopefully the way of their fore
numbers down. We wouldn't do.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
At all cause we like getting things away.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Sure they have James Pixon. Sure, and there you have
a wonderful advice pack. We have a fifty dollars uh
gift certificate from Carlos Kacino each we have Chelsea that's
uh given a gift card of how much five?

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
All good here, that's good. We got some Shray happening
there and also little on drugs and.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Gift shirts as well.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
So because alright, so our winner tonight is Alicia c
Come all down, well, come get out there.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I love my god, I bring it to you.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I lovely that I will bring it to you. Oh congratulations.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
They we bird to you, We BIRDILYU have to you and.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
All we want to thank everyone who have the guts
to come up here on the stage with us and
try you so much appreciate that. That way we don't
have to talk so much either. Yeah, not like you
want to hear us talk, Okay, I mean you know anyway,
But again, thank you for coming out. Thank you to
Chelsea for manning the table. And if you want some candy,

(58:48):
because one's Halloween without someone being without candy. If you
still got some, shrigle them to the celebrator. Help yousel
just check it out. Definitely, if you've had any houses
that you want help with, definitely email the Animal Group. Yeah,
Ashley Hilly and then Decipher's best paycount. Thank you and

(59:09):
again keeping up with those podcasts wherever podcasts are downloated,
that's us. We do our shook. We talk about creepy, cool,
scary stuff, everything and anything surrounding. Wanna pay him on
table or lonely? And yeah, thank you so much for
that and I was sorry. Next month we're gonna do
one more time here a little bit on Jack and

(59:31):
we're gonna have a special guest. Yes, Chris for Kadowski
is the way to be coming out. I don't know,
does anybody know who Chris is?

Speaker 6 (59:40):
So?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
So Chris is the eurofologist for Canada. Yeah, so can
you guess what our topic is gonna be? The body's
more than just ufolos. Yeah, he's involved with their group
like he used to go around investigations. Yeah, Chris so,
I was one of the very first ghost hunters actually
in the OPEG in the nineteen seventies and wed too
great guys, so far of information. I mean, he's all

(01:00:03):
into the cryptics, not just you knows. He don't wants
no more about uh the pizza. You can also get
his books at Raven's Ye's Books. Yet's go on down
bybe shout out of ZLA.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
That's the end.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Of Granitch then uh she has a lot more to
just us o book. She has amazing books there and
she will help you out with whatever you wanna find.
So highly recommend your your guns and if you wanna
get a ah I get a hold Up Giving Up
the Ghost podcast. We are at uh Giving the Ghost
podcast at jumail dot com and also we met do

(01:00:35):
you do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Who me? Why she was?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I remember to live every day like it is your
last and never give up to thee. As to give
up the ghost, maybe everybody
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