June 10, 2025 • 34 mins
'Spirits with Spirits' The King's Head Pub - Episode 207
Last month we had the honour to bring our 'Spirits with Spirits' series to the infamous King's Head Pub located at 120 King St., Winnipeg, MB.
Joined by Ashley and Kelly from The Winnipeg Paranormal Group, we had an amazing crowd for about 30 people come out and join us! We discussed the history of the building at 120 King St. now known as King's Head Pub since the late 1980s, however the bulding itself has been around since 1896! There has been one known death in the building, a homeless person by the name of Garry.
There have been reports of a 'Basement' ghost and a ghost on the 3rd floor.......where we were holding the event! However, nothing appeared to have been recorded or seen/felt that night. However, Jas did hear a suspicious sound on the stage behind her and someone in the audience later said around that same time, they saw the curtain move......curious ghost?
If you are in the Winnipeg area - make sure you come out for the next 'Spirits with Spirits' as The King's Head Pub has invited us back! I guess we behaved pretty well then! lol. Next event is June 25, 2025 - 7 to 9 PM. The Theme is Haunted Summer Vacations....
Also check out The Superstitious Times – Explore the Lore for our interview about our 'Spirits with Spirits' event!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
Last month we had the honour to bring our 'Spirits with Spirits' series to the infamous King's Head Pub located at 120 King St., Winnipeg, MB.
Joined by Ashley and Kelly from The Winnipeg Paranormal Group, we had an amazing crowd for about 30 people come out and join us! We discussed the history of the building at 120 King St. now known as King's Head Pub since the late 1980s, however the bulding itself has been around since 1896! There has been one known death in the building, a homeless person by the name of Garry.
There have been reports of a 'Basement' ghost and a ghost on the 3rd floor.......where we were holding the event! However, nothing appeared to have been recorded or seen/felt that night. However, Jas did hear a suspicious sound on the stage behind her and someone in the audience later said around that same time, they saw the curtain move......curious ghost?
If you are in the Winnipeg area - make sure you come out for the next 'Spirits with Spirits' as The King's Head Pub has invited us back! I guess we behaved pretty well then! lol. Next event is June 25, 2025 - 7 to 9 PM. The Theme is Haunted Summer Vacations....
Also check out The Superstitious Times – Explore the Lore for our interview about our 'Spirits with Spirits' event!
Enjoy this week's new episode!
Music by Ruesche-Sounds https://www.youtube.com/channel/USqXO
Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tiktok & Redditt
If you have a local paranormal story of Winnipeg or in Manitoba, please email us at giivinguptheghostpodcast.@gmail.com - or if you just want to say 'Hi'!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh my god, Anita's step still. Hi everybody, thanks for
coming out. Spirits with Spirits. So here we are. My
name is Jazz.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm with giving up the Ghost podcast, and Hi everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm Ashley from going to Pay a paranormal group, and
I'm Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If I'm going to pay part or Mulker.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So again, it's our first time here at the King's
Head Pub, and we appreciate that for this opportunity because
as everybody knows, this place is haunted. So in saying that,
watch everybody leave because they didn't know. Just kidding anyway,
So we're just really glad everybody could come out. Hopefully
(01:25):
there'll be a few more. Yet, we're just going to
start going on with telling you what we did. We
did some research of the King's Head Pub. This building
has been here since eighteen ninety six and it's gone
through a few owners and a few changes over the years.
More notably, I think it's been the King's Head Pub since.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Nineteen eighty three. I think or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We'll get to that the history. Hello, welcome, come on in,
find it to you. We'll find a seat. Like I said,
my name is Jazz. I have a podcast locally here
in a Pig with my pod partner's share. But we're
Winnipeg's person only paranormal podcasts. We've been doing this for
six years. Over six years. We're downloaded in forty three countries,
(02:09):
believe it or not, and we have over two hundred episodes.
So if you want to go back and hear a catalog,
please do. We just covered just one Pig and just
Manitoba ghost stories.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So you know, you can go on the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Internet and you can find podcasts that talk about you know,
California or Bam for any of that kind of stuff. No,
we we concentrate specifically because Winnipeg and Manitoba is haunted
af and through our through through our adventures with doing
research and finding all these stories and talking to so
many cool people and learning more stuff about the paranormal
(02:43):
than we knew before. When we started. We got to
meet these wonderful ladies. They had invited us out to
an investigate.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know. Was it like a getaway weekend or
an investigation? I don't know, call it what you want,
little both.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was at the B and B in in Eli, Manitoba,
which was formerly a nunnery and if any of you
know what a nunnery is. I mean, I'm not religious,
so I'm not gonna go on rants and stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So it was a pretty tough gig.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Nunneries, you know what I'm saying, and places haunted supposedly,
and we went there. We took share came with me,
and we took our laptop. That weekend we met up
with ladies and we were in the dining hall lovely owners.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess it's still open from what I know. Yeah,
And the.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Interesting thing is with spirits and these guys, you can
pick their brains later. They know more than anything about
the paranormal stuff than I do. But I just have
to explain that whenever we do locations or talk about places,
we do the history.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hauntings in histories kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And I do remember clearly how cool it was that
when we were reading all the history, like we were
reading like the nun's name and the bishop's names, and
if anybody knows, nothing's back in the early you know,
eighteen nineteen hundreds. They love their bishops right, they love
their priests right, like greater than God. And it was
just amazing that when we started to read off all
(04:14):
the information names and specifically in dates and stuff. Their
gadgets started going off, right, they have like K two
meters and stuff, and you know, every time we were
talking about the history of the building, it was just
wild to me, like there's just so much connection.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So when spirits.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Remain, you know, they they pick up on things, they connect,
and that's what we try to do. We were trying
to make connections with the past, history and spirits. And again,
these ladies will know more, way, way more than I
do or we do. But that was quite the experience
and that was pretty cool to watch their K two
(04:53):
gadgets go off. And that's what we're going to try
and establish here tonight. We have a lot of history
about the King's Head Pub. It's been here since eighteen
ninety six. It's gone through a few different reincarnations off
no pun intended, And maybe I've talked a little too
long about this, So I'm just gonna give the mic
over to Ashley Kelly and they can tell you a
(05:14):
little bit more about what the Winnipeg Paranormal Group is
all about.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So Kelly and I run the Winnipeg Paranormal Group together.
We focus primarily on client investigations. So somebody is having
activity in their home, we come out and we'll investigate
for them and see if we can find any evidence
or a proof or trying to help them out. A
lot of times people just want to know that they're
(05:39):
not going crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That was me. But we also do things like tonight's Spirits.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
With Spirits, we also host public investigations where people are
able to come out and will teach you how to
use our equipment at a haunted location and then send
you out.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
On an investigation there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So, for example, we have an investigation coming up at
Saint James Museum in June and another one at the
Downlover Museum in July.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Several and several Sober October. Yeah, October's booked, go figure.
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So we're here to try and help everybody, and we
really want to make this a more comfortable topic for people.
There's still a really big stigma in this field, and
that's part of what tonight is about. So we want
to encourage everybody to, you know, come up and tell
your stories. This is a safe and comfortable place with
like minded individuals. So you know, when we open up
(06:40):
the mic, please come out and tell us what you've got.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Kelly's sick to night. Oh it's me again. I talk
a lot, but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So in any event, like I said before, with the
King's Head Pop, it's been known to be haunted. You know,
there's some stigma against it because you know, we would
never want to do anything or say anything that would
potentially scare off customers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But we feel a lot of times when.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We're talking in public places that are known to have spirits.
People are curious, people want to know, people want the experience.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
There's three kinds of people in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
There's the ones that say there's no such thing as ghosts.
There are the ones that want to believe but also
need proof. And then they're the third that have experiences
and they know what there is out there and what happens.
Like I myself, over my entire life, I've had like
a lot of really weird ghosty experiences. So I mean,
I believe, but that's just because I've had proof, So
(07:36):
I totally get it. If somebody doesn't, maybe it's, you know,
because religion. Maybe it's because of their upbringing, right, Like,
maybe they're religious and they were told there is no
such thing as spirits, and you know, like that's fine.
I mean, whatever your belief system is. But I mean,
at the same time, you know, our favorite is when
we speak with somebody, we go out in public, like
(07:57):
a lot of times will go to like you know,
the markets and stuff and the psychic fares.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Somebody say, oh, there's no such thing as ghosts.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well there was this one time this book lemitated off
the table, but that was.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Just the wind. It's like, okay, so I mean there's
there's that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So I mean there's a lot of people that, you know,
they want to believe, they want more proof, but even
though sometimes maybe they've seen things that would be considered
to be a ghost and no, they just don't buy
into it.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And that's cool. Whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So anyway, again, I like to talk a lot going
back to this building. This building was built in eighteen
ninety six. It's a two story warehouse building. It was
designed by a local architect for a fur merchant named
Andrew Carruthers, who was actually a long standing fur hide
and wool dealer. Although the hide and wool warehouse was
(08:46):
on a distantlocation versus Logan, the main office employed many
people and with the advantage of having the two locations
the one I'm king here and there as the one
I guess directly across from the central fire hall that
says here Crothers was a few meters from the market
(09:07):
Square which is there and in the heart of the
growing needle district. I can't speak sometimes trading supply was
accomplished with ease in the city that maintained its prominence
in the historic for trade. So he basically had a
foothold and with the exchange district being known as like
manufacturing district like this was this was the ship. This
(09:29):
was the place to be for his business. Also a
side note though eight Crothers Company, they expanded its presence
in the warehouse district by building a new structure inteen
nineteen sixteen at one twenty four King, immediately north of
its original building. So you know the guy. They were
(09:50):
growing faster than they could keep up with so they
were making buildings and stuff. With little history on eight Crothers.
He was actually a director of the Monarch Life Assurance Company.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
He had a daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He had two sons, both were involved in the fur
trade and they hided business in Birkenhead, England, and in
Brandon and Winnipeg. His son William looked after that part
of the business. So it was William who took over
for the Winnipeg operation when Andrew Cruthers died April nineteen
oh nine. We don't know if he died here along
with his business partner who also was rented the business.
(10:22):
So basically the way this building was structured, you had
different parts. And like I said, because they expanded a
business and they couldn't keep up with demand.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I guess you know, with fluctuating need, they would.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Then this upper floor in nineteen oh six was rented
out to Deer north Western Publishing Company and that was
the first and largest German language press in Western Canada,
printing the weekly Dale Deer North north Western and German.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But I can't speak a worship, so inn't mind me.
It's thanks.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So anyway, so that magazine was actually or that newspaper, sorry,
was originated since eighteen eighty nine, and it was the
most important German language paper in the West. Keeping in
mind again that was up here. That was the printing,
the printing presses. If you can imagine, can you imagine
(11:24):
in those days how hot that would have been up here,
like when now ahir finishing just all the printing presses
going and everything anyway. By the year of its first publication,
Managemba's population included six thousand German speaking immigrants from Russia,
mainly Mennonites, Romania, Germany, and the eastern Austro Hungarian provinces,
and because they were considered desirable in immigrants, the federal
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government encouraged more and more home centers to come, particularly
after eighteen ninety six. Although other German papers were published
in this century, Dear Western remained the most important German
language newspaper in the West. At its peak from nineteen
oh four to nineteen fourteen, it published twenty thousand copies.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Weekly and employed thirty people in this plant.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I mean again, you know, I got the printing presses
and all that kind of stuff. It'd be really cool
if just going to throw this at you girls, like
if you can negotiate or maybe see if they can.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Do like an after hour's investigation, because I could just.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like, I don't know if you've ever known the Winnipeg
Free Press building not building. The Winnipeg Free Press initially
before it had its building downtown. It was actually running
their printers off the tenth and the eleventh floor in
the Marlborough, right. So apparently after they moved and the
(12:45):
printing presses I think were too large for them to
disassemble and move, and when they got their proper building
on what is that street called off of Ellis, you
know it was a Carlton, Yeah, thank you, So they
left a lot of the printing equipment there because it
was just too large to transport and it was kind
(13:05):
of aged and decrupt by that point.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So they basically at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
The Marlboro Hotel blocked off that whole floor. But for
years people staff that work there would always claim that
late at night they could hear the printing.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Presses going so oh I just got chilled.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that'd be really cool, you know, just given the
amount of history of the German paper that was here, right,
And then you get somebody really cool coming in and.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Sprecking the Deutsch and has them to guilt and see
if you can, you know, rise the spirits.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So anyway, I also to drew my train falls off
the track a lot too. Anyway, So at Itude from
nineteen oh four twenty thousand. They employed thirty people, but
the difficulties occurred during the last days of the First
World War, when all four newspapers were forced.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
To part the published in English.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
During the Winnipeg General Strike of nineteen nineteen, the publication
was spend it outright.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So that's the first part. So where we're sitting now
again to reiterate, this is where the printing happened.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Upstairs, speaking with the manager earlier as we're setting up,
and she was saying that, you know, the King's Head
has two ghosts that they know about, right, They've seen
and felt and had experiences in the basement. They have
a basement ghosts and then they have a third floor ghost.
So just saying, if you guys see or feel anything
where tonight, be certain to let us know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I only knew about the basement ghost. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, and these ladies have some of their gadgets here.
Did you guys want to turn on some of your
gadgets and just leave them on the There we go.
So the proof is in the pudding. The paranormal proof
is in the paranormal pudding. So we'll see what happens
a little bit more about the history.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Do you care to read this. This is about the
fellow that bought the paper that it was still regular. Yeah,
when it gets to the ghosts, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But see, reason why we're building up the history here
is not just to prove and show how much activity
this restaurant was at one point. But you know a
lot of sometimes spirits gravitate back to what they know,
or what they like or what you know, what gave
them joy in life.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, like their happy place, right, Like if anybody knows, say,
for example, the Burden.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Coming up, they say, it's Mabel Hackney and her husband
who were just embraced here by the community when they
performed in like I think it was like what nineteen
not twelve something.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I'm somewhere around there in nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Anyway, they were from England. They performed here and they
were just so loved by the Winnipeg community. They performed
for like a year year and a half. But they
did say that they would be back and I'll be back.
And what happened was when they started to go back
to England, they were actually on a ship in the
(15:55):
Ontario wore just the joy Saint Laura Strait and there
was a ship this, so their ship collided.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
With another ship and they perished. They could not find
the bodies.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They could not find them, so and then it was
after that time, you know, they would say that Mabel
and her husband had returned to the bird. There's a
plaque there as well, So I mean, you know, spirits
gravitate like, they're not confined in one place just because
they died someplace.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that doesn't mean like a bunch of people died here.
I mean they could have. They don't know if we'll
get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But in any event, that's the whole point of reading
the history because just just to reiterate how much has
happened here, and I'm hoping that, you know, if we
reiterate some of the history, that might attract some.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Things you never do.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So anyway, just to go back after the general strike,
there was the business was then actually bought by Frank
Joe Sick jo Dojoy Sick in nineteen twenty two and
he expanded into several multi lingual publications. So this is
from the Manitoba Historical Society. That's a great website if
(17:01):
you ever are nerdy like me.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And like history.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It was a really great there's stuff is solid, so
with Frank who had bought the magazine. He was actually
born in Czechoslovakia in eighteen eighty. He immigrated to Canada
in nineteen oh three and then he worked as a
tailor for years, and then he turned to the bookselling business,
and then from nineteen oh four to nineteen oh six
he traveled across Prairie Canada, selling books written in Ukrainian,
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German and Slovak. Nineteen oh six he started the Ukrainian
bookseller's store at eight fifteen Main Streets that specialized in
foreign language books, and during the course of his working
life he published over sixty foreign language books, and later
he added music to his inventory, remaining as general manager
of the store until his death. And he was also
(17:48):
he'll starred a Polish language weekly newspaper called Polish Times.
Sorrow Sorrow says anyway, so there's more about his life
and death and what bore you with that. But there
is actually a bronze bust of him sculpted by Leo
Mall and it says a replica of his Winnipeg store
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at the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Hull, Quebec. And
some of his possessions are held there as well, so
during the nineteen forties this location also housed the general
offices of the Canadian Pacific Airlines, and from nineteen fifty
one to nineteen eighty three it was also home to
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something called Sparling Sales, successfully operated wholesale radio and television
sales business, and then in nineteen eighty three the building
was renovated into an office space including a travel agency.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The name was unknown and.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
This location first operated actually as a restaurant for a
brief period of time, both as Mama Loo's Steakhouse and
Stage Daily operated here as well.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Anybody familiar with those? Anybody?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Anybody No?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then in August of nineteen eighty seven, the King's
Had Pop opened its doors to Winnipeg as the first
pub in the city and introduced Winnipeg to the import
beer market.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sounds pretty cool from the Kingshead Pub website.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The King's Head first started off as a forty seat
pub with only about six beer taps on tap, and
over the years expand into its current capacity of four
hundred seat plus and as well as an elder patio.
We now have one of the largest tap selections in Winnipeg.
Who goes to the Kingshead Pub. Yeah, so that is
that part. Actually wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The hauntings camp.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, get to the hauntings there you go, Thank you,
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So this comes from a City to TV news episode
from two thousand and six. This is actually, apparently, at
that point one of the lesser known haunted locations in Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I don't think there was.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't think it was a big back then the
paranormal haunting things two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Six, I think it was still taboosh, yeah, taboo.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Jim Beam and Jack Daniels are not the only spirits
that inhabit the pub.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay. A former owner Jay, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Even gonna I think that side canoe gyp Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So there are nights that he spent alone in the
pub before it opened where he gets to feel that
he wasn't alone, which is the reason why he believed
in ghosts.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Today. Many, many times it would be really weird noises,
and you have that in older buildings.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But when I slept in the basement next to the
kitchen and here pots and pants moving, and you knew.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
There was something going on.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Side note, the owner was understaffed and would sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Spend the night in the basement. He would hear sounds
but thought nothing of it. Soon, dishes and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Cutlery would disappear. The owner blame of the waitresses for stealing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Them, but she denied it.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Eventually, he agreed to lock the doors and stay in
the place one night to keep watching everything, and dishes
and cutleries still went missing.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oo, give us a collective who.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well, we already talked about that, right, Oh, yeah, because
that was from the TV from the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
One story is that the night waitress would set the
tables before she left for the night, but in.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The morning, when staff came in searching, pieces would be
missing off tables.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Spoons would be missing off one table, blast missing off another,
napkits not in the same place, or the table that had.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Overall been messed with. But not all the stories are lighthearted.
In a more serious.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Moment, in nineteen ninety four, a homeless man who regularly
came in to used the bathroom had a seizure while
in the pub. Staff didn't think anything of it until
he had left at some point, as he usually he did. However,
hours later, the bartender let staff know that something was.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wrong with Gary.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Finding him in the bathroom, they called an ambulance, realizing
that he had had a seizure.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
However, he had passed away. So there is a death
in the building, one body count, one.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
That we know that, we know that, we know it.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It was after that that the owner Ja felt the
second presence.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
He says it was Gary because Gary had appreciated the
staff's kindness and before his death he told the bartender
how much he liked it there, so maybe he wanted
to make the pub his final resting place. Jay said,
the presence we felt initially was more so in the basement,
but that pretty much is where you only felt it
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at first. Then it would move up here to the
upstairs floor. We started feeling the presence on the second
floor as well. For some reason, sharing your workplace with
ghost is a frightening thought. But for Jay, it's not scary.
When you're scared that you get a chill up your
neck or down, just fine.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This feeling is different.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It was sort of calming thing, always kind you always
kind of always thought you saw something or felt something,
but never chill. Always warmed.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, So see that's that I'll be back theory like
not Arnold, but the Mabel Hackney Right, I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So Gary came back or stayed in this case, Well, Gary,
we are recording tonight, so you know, if there's a
message that you want to say, we you know what we.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Can do able to hear when you actually listen to
this after Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
What thing?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
In our podcast Travels Man Share, I'm okay with the
Louisi born now sorry, I'm okay with the Weisi born
now because of these ladies and because they're pretty cool
and stuff, but for the most time not cool.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We were born, so they had a lot of bad experiences. However,
our Travels on our podcast, we started spirit, which is
kind of like your magicy fall.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Is that a man? And it says yes meaning definitely
no way an let's askaris right, okay, Gary you're here,
can you let us know?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And it's pretty accurate. I have to say, it's kind
of eurie. Well, it was bouncing on yes, and now
it's on.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Maybe maybe it's a fifty to fifty. Probably everything's a
fifty to fifty. We can try to do later or
are there any other spirits here? Are there any other
spirits here, right, It could be the basement ghost. Yeah, yeah,
you know, came up for stretches, legs, yes, yes, thinking
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what you want anyway, A try the soccer if they
have maybe these great questions while me and somewhere else,
all right, do you want to read or you want
me to keep going? You didn't keep going? My voice
is two other things experienced where things have been reported
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in the basement and on the top floor, but not
the main floor.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In the basement, staff have reported feeling washed or someone
in the space with them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
On the second floor, they heard pouring or rushing water.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
This happened a few times, so plumber was called in
and the plumber could not find anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Once in a while, these sounds could still be heard by.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Staff if he's something back there, it's okay. This was
just a relation to the area Exchange District.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So Old Market Square, which is where we are placed
in the heart of Winnipeg's historic Exchange district, was not
always located at his current site. At its initial construction,
it sat on.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
A different JEFFS. Gable Street.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
The original site of the Old Market Square could be
found half block north, situated on the land former Public
Safety building which did up one fifty one Princess Street
what we now know is Old Market Square ka the
que Back in the eighteen seventies. It was one of
the first prisons in the province, being situated from across
the way from the courts and City Hall.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right, So if you kind of start like envision where
the city Hall is now, there was the Gingerbread City
Hall if you ever heard of that one, and they
had to dismolish it. Demolish it was a beautiful thing.
Oh sorry, the old city Hall. They called it the
Gingerbread City Hall. It was only around for book twenty
or thirty years and then they had to demolish it
because of structural I guess it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Wasn't build properly.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So if you can imagine where the City Hall is
now and then I think it's Red River right, the
building which became so like all that was all connected
with city Hall and as far as their jail system,
and then they had the gallows that was actually right
across the street.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's all I come on to say. They had gallows. Yeah,
that was the original jail before Vaughn Street.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, even at Bond Street jail they had gallows, which
was the later in the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, there was what like fifteen hangings at Bond Street
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, has anybody been to Von Street jail or mm
hmm huh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Are you gonna come up and share with those afters?
Are you gonna come share some stories with us after Nope?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, okay, all right, So I read that right. I
just wrote that purchase to emphasize how the air is
so old and haunted.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right, Public Hays and what is now Market Square where,
indeed a part of the city's history the general downtown
area were historically used for public executions in Winnipeg, pre
dating Bond Street Jail, supposedly old market squares where the
first hangings in Manitoba occurred, and how the jail sales
remained underground of the.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Square aparently because it was indoors, it wasn't outside.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh so it's kind of like because you know, they
had to dig the whole.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right, Yeah, it makes yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
August twenty sixth, eighteen seventy four, Private Joseph Michard, a
twenty three year old soldier from Quebec, is the first
person to be hanging in Manitoba.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
A large crowd showing up outside the jail.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
At eight am for the hanging, despite the fact that
it was an indoors show with a pre selected gallery
of just twenty that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
We're able to wash.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Do you think there's any spirits from those that might
want to say to hello tonight.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So we'll give that back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sure thing of interest history wise, not ghost wise, necessarily,
everybody knows next door, like the parquade and that creepy garage, right,
that's actually a one fourteen king and that one was
actually I won't bore you with the whole history and
all that, but it was quite how do you say?
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It was like the first dealership in in Winnipeg and
Western Manitoba for the longest time.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I guess, like you know, with everything progressing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Me and Ashley had a conversation before about you were
saying that that was like for horses.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right, but it actually wasn't. And really, yeah, I wasn't
trying to disprove.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Ashley or anything like that because I like it when
she takes me on investigations.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So I don't want to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But so basically the facility next door, it doesn't have anything.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
The far a as to it, it was always like
a dealership.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And the weird thing because, like you know, with the
like say eighteen eighty two, while it seriously affected some
parts of the local economy, it didn't have a devastating
effect on the wholesale sector, which was the exchange district. Right,
So the areas between east and west of Main Street
developed into the warehouse district between eighteen eighties and eighteen
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nineties and then rapidly to the nineteen hundreds. So in
saying that one of the unique developments was the growth
of the automobiles in the city, fellow by the name
of Eb Kendrick, a professor at Saint John's College, introduced
the first automobile to.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Winnipeg in nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
So tomorrow you can talk about this at work and say,
did you know that the first automobile in Winnipeg was
here in nineteen oh one, nineteen eline whatever. Anyway, So
by nineteen oh three the automobile business was established, and
it was taken over by a McCullough and Boswell who
built a garage on William Avenue. And then the Winnipeg
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Automobile Club was organized in nineteen oh four, and then
by nineteen oh eight there was nearly three hundred cars
on Olympic streets, which is kind of crazy. So they're
running horse driven carriages and cars at the same time.
Can you imagine the calamity like that might have been?
Just anyway people can arrive nowadays, can you imagine back then?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Probably didn't even have turn signals back then either.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So in nineteen oh three, carriage retailer Joseph maw began
selling r old vehicles aka oldsmobiles and Cadillacs in a
portion of his business block on the southeast corner of
King Street and William But it wasn't long before supply
demanded a large or more modern facility. So in nineteen
oh seven, Man took out a permit to build a
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one story garage and show room on his property situated
opposite at that point the Central Fire Hall on King
which is next door here. And it said he owned
this property till in nineteen thirty and he made it
the city's first grade automotive center. So now, from nineteen
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thirty four to nineteen sixty four, City Ray Company and
Olifson Transportation Company occupied the property, and then it was.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Silpit Industries that owned it, So technically.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
One fourteen King Building was never a stable, as rumor
may have have it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
The City Dray.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Company was founded in eighteen ninety four as a horse
drawn vehicle form out of his house on Stanley Street,
and in nineteen oh nine he had thirty five horses.
But then once he brought like a two cylinder truck
into the fray of things, it was still remained to
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be like just cars.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
So it's not that the company.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That resided there, or one of the companies that resided
there wasn't necessarily What I'm trying to say is they
didn't have horses, but before they turned into trucks, they
had horses.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
There was never drunks or never horses. Next, rum and boring,
but kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Where we are.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
We are at seven. Should we take a break and
then and then tell some other ghost stories?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, and then you can talk some actual ghost stories
and have everybody come up here and share.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and we'll tell some ghost stories too.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Absolutely, we can definitely share something or even ask them
questions because they've got a lot of experience.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So we'll take about ten minute break.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, so you know, feel free ten minutes ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Bathroom, drinks and food downstairs. We got some merchandise over
here and in the corner. Yeah, we'll be back in
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Thank you, I thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So as we say at the end of the very
podcast episode because we're recorded and remember.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of every day like it is your last. But never
give up the ghost. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Do you never remembered? I know, I know you did well.
Excuse so well it was time to ring. Yep, wow,
look at else m
Oh my god, Anita's step still. Hi everybody, thanks for
coming out. Spirits with Spirits. So here we are. My
name is Jazz.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm with giving up the Ghost podcast, and Hi everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm Ashley from going to Pay a paranormal group, and
I'm Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
If I'm going to pay part or Mulker.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So again, it's our first time here at the King's
Head Pub, and we appreciate that for this opportunity because
as everybody knows, this place is haunted. So in saying that,
watch everybody leave because they didn't know. Just kidding anyway,
So we're just really glad everybody could come out. Hopefully
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there'll be a few more. Yet, we're just going to
start going on with telling you what we did. We
did some research of the King's Head Pub. This building
has been here since eighteen ninety six and it's gone
through a few owners and a few changes over the years.
More notably, I think it's been the King's Head Pub since.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Nineteen eighty three. I think or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We'll get to that the history. Hello, welcome, come on in,
find it to you. We'll find a seat. Like I said,
my name is Jazz. I have a podcast locally here
in a Pig with my pod partner's share. But we're
Winnipeg's person only paranormal podcasts. We've been doing this for
six years. Over six years. We're downloaded in forty three countries,
(02:09):
believe it or not, and we have over two hundred episodes.
So if you want to go back and hear a catalog,
please do. We just covered just one Pig and just
Manitoba ghost stories.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So you know, you can go on the.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Internet and you can find podcasts that talk about you know,
California or Bam for any of that kind of stuff. No,
we we concentrate specifically because Winnipeg and Manitoba is haunted
af and through our through through our adventures with doing
research and finding all these stories and talking to so
many cool people and learning more stuff about the paranormal
(02:43):
than we knew before. When we started. We got to
meet these wonderful ladies. They had invited us out to
an investigate.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know. Was it like a getaway weekend or
an investigation? I don't know, call it what you want,
little both.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was at the B and B in in Eli, Manitoba,
which was formerly a nunnery and if any of you
know what a nunnery is. I mean, I'm not religious,
so I'm not gonna go on rants and stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So it was a pretty tough gig.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Nunneries, you know what I'm saying, and places haunted supposedly,
and we went there. We took share came with me,
and we took our laptop. That weekend we met up
with ladies and we were in the dining hall lovely owners.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess it's still open from what I know. Yeah,
And the.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Interesting thing is with spirits and these guys, you can
pick their brains later. They know more than anything about
the paranormal stuff than I do. But I just have
to explain that whenever we do locations or talk about places,
we do the history.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hauntings in histories kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And I do remember clearly how cool it was that
when we were reading all the history, like we were
reading like the nun's name and the bishop's names, and
if anybody knows, nothing's back in the early you know,
eighteen nineteen hundreds. They love their bishops right, they love
their priests right, like greater than God. And it was
just amazing that when we started to read off all
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the information names and specifically in dates and stuff. Their
gadgets started going off, right, they have like K two
meters and stuff, and you know, every time we were
talking about the history of the building, it was just
wild to me, like there's just so much connection.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So when spirits.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Remain, you know, they they pick up on things, they connect,
and that's what we try to do. We were trying
to make connections with the past, history and spirits. And again,
these ladies will know more, way, way more than I
do or we do. But that was quite the experience
and that was pretty cool to watch their K two
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gadgets go off. And that's what we're going to try
and establish here tonight. We have a lot of history
about the King's Head Pub. It's been here since eighteen
ninety six. It's gone through a few different reincarnations off
no pun intended, And maybe I've talked a little too
long about this, So I'm just gonna give the mic
over to Ashley Kelly and they can tell you a
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little bit more about what the Winnipeg Paranormal Group is
all about.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So Kelly and I run the Winnipeg Paranormal Group together.
We focus primarily on client investigations. So somebody is having
activity in their home, we come out and we'll investigate
for them and see if we can find any evidence
or a proof or trying to help them out. A
lot of times people just want to know that they're
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not going crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That was me. But we also do things like tonight's Spirits.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
With Spirits, we also host public investigations where people are
able to come out and will teach you how to
use our equipment at a haunted location and then send
you out.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
On an investigation there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So, for example, we have an investigation coming up at
Saint James Museum in June and another one at the
Downlover Museum in July.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Several and several Sober October. Yeah, October's booked, go figure.
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So we're here to try and help everybody, and we
really want to make this a more comfortable topic for people.
There's still a really big stigma in this field, and
that's part of what tonight is about. So we want
to encourage everybody to, you know, come up and tell
your stories. This is a safe and comfortable place with
like minded individuals. So you know, when we open up
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the mic, please come out and tell us what you've got.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Kelly's sick to night. Oh it's me again. I talk
a lot, but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So in any event, like I said before, with the
King's Head Pop, it's been known to be haunted. You know,
there's some stigma against it because you know, we would
never want to do anything or say anything that would
potentially scare off customers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But we feel a lot of times when.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
We're talking in public places that are known to have spirits.
People are curious, people want to know, people want the experience.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
There's three kinds of people in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
There's the ones that say there's no such thing as ghosts.
There are the ones that want to believe but also
need proof. And then they're the third that have experiences
and they know what there is out there and what happens.
Like I myself, over my entire life, I've had like
a lot of really weird ghosty experiences. So I mean,
I believe, but that's just because I've had proof, So
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I totally get it. If somebody doesn't, maybe it's, you know,
because religion. Maybe it's because of their upbringing, right, Like,
maybe they're religious and they were told there is no
such thing as spirits, and you know, like that's fine.
I mean, whatever your belief system is. But I mean,
at the same time, you know, our favorite is when
we speak with somebody, we go out in public, like
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a lot of times will go to like you know,
the markets and stuff and the psychic fares.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Somebody say, oh, there's no such thing as ghosts.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well there was this one time this book lemitated off
the table, but that was.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Just the wind. It's like, okay, so I mean there's
there's that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So I mean there's a lot of people that, you know,
they want to believe, they want more proof, but even
though sometimes maybe they've seen things that would be considered
to be a ghost and no, they just don't buy
into it.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
And that's cool. Whatever works for you.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So anyway, again, I like to talk a lot going
back to this building. This building was built in eighteen
ninety six. It's a two story warehouse building. It was
designed by a local architect for a fur merchant named
Andrew Carruthers, who was actually a long standing fur hide
and wool dealer. Although the hide and wool warehouse was
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on a distantlocation versus Logan, the main office employed many
people and with the advantage of having the two locations
the one I'm king here and there as the one
I guess directly across from the central fire hall that
says here Crothers was a few meters from the market
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Square which is there and in the heart of the
growing needle district. I can't speak sometimes trading supply was
accomplished with ease in the city that maintained its prominence
in the historic for trade. So he basically had a
foothold and with the exchange district being known as like
manufacturing district like this was this was the ship. This
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was the place to be for his business. Also a
side note though eight Crothers Company, they expanded its presence
in the warehouse district by building a new structure inteen
nineteen sixteen at one twenty four King, immediately north of
its original building. So you know the guy. They were
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growing faster than they could keep up with so they
were making buildings and stuff. With little history on eight Crothers.
He was actually a director of the Monarch Life Assurance Company.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
He had a daughter.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He had two sons, both were involved in the fur
trade and they hided business in Birkenhead, England, and in
Brandon and Winnipeg. His son William looked after that part
of the business. So it was William who took over
for the Winnipeg operation when Andrew Cruthers died April nineteen
oh nine. We don't know if he died here along
with his business partner who also was rented the business.
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So basically the way this building was structured, you had
different parts. And like I said, because they expanded a
business and they couldn't keep up with demand.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I guess you know, with fluctuating need, they would.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Then this upper floor in nineteen oh six was rented
out to Deer north Western Publishing Company and that was
the first and largest German language press in Western Canada,
printing the weekly Dale Deer North north Western and German.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But I can't speak a worship, so inn't mind me.
It's thanks.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So anyway, so that magazine was actually or that newspaper, sorry,
was originated since eighteen eighty nine, and it was the
most important German language paper in the West. Keeping in
mind again that was up here. That was the printing,
the printing presses. If you can imagine, can you imagine
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in those days how hot that would have been up here,
like when now ahir finishing just all the printing presses
going and everything anyway. By the year of its first publication,
Managemba's population included six thousand German speaking immigrants from Russia,
mainly Mennonites, Romania, Germany, and the eastern Austro Hungarian provinces,
and because they were considered desirable in immigrants, the federal
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government encouraged more and more home centers to come, particularly
after eighteen ninety six. Although other German papers were published
in this century, Dear Western remained the most important German
language newspaper in the West. At its peak from nineteen
oh four to nineteen fourteen, it published twenty thousand copies.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Weekly and employed thirty people in this plant.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I mean again, you know, I got the printing presses
and all that kind of stuff. It'd be really cool
if just going to throw this at you girls, like
if you can negotiate or maybe see if they can.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Do like an after hour's investigation, because I could just.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Like, I don't know if you've ever known the Winnipeg
Free Press building not building. The Winnipeg Free Press initially
before it had its building downtown. It was actually running
their printers off the tenth and the eleventh floor in
the Marlborough, right. So apparently after they moved and the
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printing presses I think were too large for them to
disassemble and move, and when they got their proper building
on what is that street called off of Ellis, you
know it was a Carlton, Yeah, thank you, So they
left a lot of the printing equipment there because it
was just too large to transport and it was kind
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of aged and decrupt by that point.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So they basically at.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
The Marlboro Hotel blocked off that whole floor. But for
years people staff that work there would always claim that
late at night they could hear the printing.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Presses going so oh I just got chilled.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So that'd be really cool, you know, just given the
amount of history of the German paper that was here, right,
And then you get somebody really cool coming in and.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Sprecking the Deutsch and has them to guilt and see
if you can, you know, rise the spirits.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So anyway, I also to drew my train falls off
the track a lot too. Anyway, So at Itude from
nineteen oh four twenty thousand. They employed thirty people, but
the difficulties occurred during the last days of the First
World War, when all four newspapers were forced.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
To part the published in English.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
During the Winnipeg General Strike of nineteen nineteen, the publication
was spend it outright.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So that's the first part. So where we're sitting now
again to reiterate, this is where the printing happened.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Upstairs, speaking with the manager earlier as we're setting up,
and she was saying that, you know, the King's Head
has two ghosts that they know about, right, They've seen
and felt and had experiences in the basement. They have
a basement ghosts and then they have a third floor ghost.
So just saying, if you guys see or feel anything
where tonight, be certain to let us know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I only knew about the basement ghost. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, and these ladies have some of their gadgets here.
Did you guys want to turn on some of your
gadgets and just leave them on the There we go.
So the proof is in the pudding. The paranormal proof
is in the paranormal pudding. So we'll see what happens
a little bit more about the history.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Do you care to read this. This is about the
fellow that bought the paper that it was still regular. Yeah,
when it gets to the ghosts, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But see, reason why we're building up the history here
is not just to prove and show how much activity
this restaurant was at one point. But you know a
lot of sometimes spirits gravitate back to what they know,
or what they like or what you know, what gave
them joy in life.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, like their happy place, right, Like if anybody knows, say,
for example, the Burden.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Coming up, they say, it's Mabel Hackney and her husband
who were just embraced here by the community when they
performed in like I think it was like what nineteen
not twelve something.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I'm somewhere around there in nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Anyway, they were from England. They performed here and they
were just so loved by the Winnipeg community. They performed
for like a year year and a half. But they
did say that they would be back and I'll be back.
And what happened was when they started to go back
to England, they were actually on a ship in the
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Ontario wore just the joy Saint Laura Strait and there
was a ship this, so their ship collided.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
With another ship and they perished. They could not find
the bodies.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
They could not find them, so and then it was
after that time, you know, they would say that Mabel
and her husband had returned to the bird. There's a
plaque there as well, So I mean, you know, spirits
gravitate like, they're not confined in one place just because
they died someplace.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that doesn't mean like a bunch of people died here.
I mean they could have. They don't know if we'll
get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But in any event, that's the whole point of reading
the history because just just to reiterate how much has
happened here, and I'm hoping that, you know, if we
reiterate some of the history, that might attract some.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Things you never do.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So anyway, just to go back after the general strike,
there was the business was then actually bought by Frank
Joe Sick jo Dojoy Sick in nineteen twenty two and
he expanded into several multi lingual publications. So this is
from the Manitoba Historical Society. That's a great website if
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you ever are nerdy like me.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And like history.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It was a really great there's stuff is solid, so
with Frank who had bought the magazine. He was actually
born in Czechoslovakia in eighteen eighty. He immigrated to Canada
in nineteen oh three and then he worked as a
tailor for years, and then he turned to the bookselling business,
and then from nineteen oh four to nineteen oh six
he traveled across Prairie Canada, selling books written in Ukrainian,
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German and Slovak. Nineteen oh six he started the Ukrainian
bookseller's store at eight fifteen Main Streets that specialized in
foreign language books, and during the course of his working
life he published over sixty foreign language books, and later
he added music to his inventory, remaining as general manager
of the store until his death. And he was also
(17:48):
he'll starred a Polish language weekly newspaper called Polish Times.
Sorrow Sorrow says anyway, so there's more about his life
and death and what bore you with that. But there
is actually a bronze bust of him sculpted by Leo
Mall and it says a replica of his Winnipeg store
(18:09):
at the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Hull, Quebec. And
some of his possessions are held there as well, so
during the nineteen forties this location also housed the general
offices of the Canadian Pacific Airlines, and from nineteen fifty
one to nineteen eighty three it was also home to
(18:29):
something called Sparling Sales, successfully operated wholesale radio and television
sales business, and then in nineteen eighty three the building
was renovated into an office space including a travel agency.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
The name was unknown and.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
This location first operated actually as a restaurant for a
brief period of time, both as Mama Loo's Steakhouse and
Stage Daily operated here as well.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Anybody familiar with those? Anybody?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Anybody No?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And then in August of nineteen eighty seven, the King's
Had Pop opened its doors to Winnipeg as the first
pub in the city and introduced Winnipeg to the import
beer market.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Sounds pretty cool from the Kingshead Pub website.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The King's Head first started off as a forty seat
pub with only about six beer taps on tap, and
over the years expand into its current capacity of four
hundred seat plus and as well as an elder patio.
We now have one of the largest tap selections in Winnipeg.
Who goes to the Kingshead Pub. Yeah, so that is
that part. Actually wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The hauntings camp.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, get to the hauntings there you go, Thank you,
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
All right.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So this comes from a City to TV news episode
from two thousand and six. This is actually, apparently, at
that point one of the lesser known haunted locations in Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I don't think there was.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't think it was a big back then the
paranormal haunting things two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Six, I think it was still taboosh, yeah, taboo.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Jim Beam and Jack Daniels are not the only spirits
that inhabit the pub.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay. A former owner Jay, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Even gonna I think that side canoe gyp Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So there are nights that he spent alone in the
pub before it opened where he gets to feel that
he wasn't alone, which is the reason why he believed
in ghosts.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Today. Many, many times it would be really weird noises,
and you have that in older buildings.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But when I slept in the basement next to the
kitchen and here pots and pants moving, and you knew.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
There was something going on.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Side note, the owner was understaffed and would sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Spend the night in the basement. He would hear sounds
but thought nothing of it. Soon, dishes and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Cutlery would disappear. The owner blame of the waitresses for stealing.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Them, but she denied it.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Eventually, he agreed to lock the doors and stay in
the place one night to keep watching everything, and dishes
and cutleries still went missing.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oo, give us a collective who.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Well, we already talked about that, right, Oh, yeah, because
that was from the TV from the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
One story is that the night waitress would set the
tables before she left for the night, but in.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The morning, when staff came in searching, pieces would be
missing off tables.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Spoons would be missing off one table, blast missing off another,
napkits not in the same place, or the table that had.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Overall been messed with. But not all the stories are lighthearted.
In a more serious.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Moment, in nineteen ninety four, a homeless man who regularly
came in to used the bathroom had a seizure while
in the pub. Staff didn't think anything of it until
he had left at some point, as he usually he did. However,
hours later, the bartender let staff know that something was.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Wrong with Gary.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Finding him in the bathroom, they called an ambulance, realizing
that he had had a seizure.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
However, he had passed away. So there is a death
in the building, one body count, one.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
That we know that, we know that, we know it.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
It was after that that the owner Ja felt the
second presence.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
He says it was Gary because Gary had appreciated the
staff's kindness and before his death he told the bartender
how much he liked it there, so maybe he wanted
to make the pub his final resting place. Jay said,
the presence we felt initially was more so in the basement,
but that pretty much is where you only felt it
(22:43):
at first. Then it would move up here to the
upstairs floor. We started feeling the presence on the second
floor as well. For some reason, sharing your workplace with
ghost is a frightening thought. But for Jay, it's not scary.
When you're scared that you get a chill up your
neck or down, just fine.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This feeling is different.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
It was sort of calming thing, always kind you always
kind of always thought you saw something or felt something,
but never chill. Always warmed.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, So see that's that I'll be back theory like
not Arnold, but the Mabel Hackney Right, I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So Gary came back or stayed in this case, Well, Gary,
we are recording tonight, so you know, if there's a
message that you want to say, we you know what we.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Can do able to hear when you actually listen to
this after Okay.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
What thing?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
In our podcast Travels Man Share, I'm okay with the
Louisi born now sorry, I'm okay with the Weisi born
now because of these ladies and because they're pretty cool
and stuff, but for the most time not cool.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We were born, so they had a lot of bad experiences. However,
our Travels on our podcast, we started spirit, which is
kind of like your magicy fall.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Is that a man? And it says yes meaning definitely
no way an let's askaris right, okay, Gary you're here,
can you let us know?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And it's pretty accurate. I have to say, it's kind
of eurie. Well, it was bouncing on yes, and now
it's on.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Maybe maybe it's a fifty to fifty. Probably everything's a
fifty to fifty. We can try to do later or
are there any other spirits here? Are there any other
spirits here, right, It could be the basement ghost. Yeah, yeah,
you know, came up for stretches, legs, yes, yes, thinking
(24:55):
what you want anyway, A try the soccer if they
have maybe these great questions while me and somewhere else,
all right, do you want to read or you want
me to keep going? You didn't keep going? My voice
is two other things experienced where things have been reported
(25:17):
in the basement and on the top floor, but not
the main floor.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In the basement, staff have reported feeling washed or someone
in the space with them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
On the second floor, they heard pouring or rushing water.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
This happened a few times, so plumber was called in
and the plumber could not find anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Once in a while, these sounds could still be heard by.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Staff if he's something back there, it's okay. This was
just a relation to the area Exchange District.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So Old Market Square, which is where we are placed
in the heart of Winnipeg's historic Exchange district, was not
always located at his current site. At its initial construction,
it sat on.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
A different JEFFS. Gable Street.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
The original site of the Old Market Square could be
found half block north, situated on the land former Public
Safety building which did up one fifty one Princess Street
what we now know is Old Market Square ka the
que Back in the eighteen seventies. It was one of
the first prisons in the province, being situated from across
the way from the courts and City Hall.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right, So if you kind of start like envision where
the city Hall is now, there was the Gingerbread City
Hall if you ever heard of that one, and they
had to dismolish it. Demolish it was a beautiful thing.
Oh sorry, the old city Hall. They called it the
Gingerbread City Hall. It was only around for book twenty
or thirty years and then they had to demolish it
because of structural I guess it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Wasn't build properly.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So if you can imagine where the City Hall is
now and then I think it's Red River right, the
building which became so like all that was all connected
with city Hall and as far as their jail system,
and then they had the gallows that was actually right
across the street.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's all I come on to say. They had gallows. Yeah,
that was the original jail before Vaughn Street.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, even at Bond Street jail they had gallows, which
was the later in the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, there was what like fifteen hangings at Bond Street
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, has anybody been to Von Street jail or mm
hmm huh.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Are you gonna come up and share with those afters?
Are you gonna come share some stories with us after Nope?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, okay, all right, So I read that right. I
just wrote that purchase to emphasize how the air is
so old and haunted.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Right, Public Hays and what is now Market Square where,
indeed a part of the city's history the general downtown
area were historically used for public executions in Winnipeg, pre
dating Bond Street Jail, supposedly old market squares where the
first hangings in Manitoba occurred, and how the jail sales
remained underground of the.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Square aparently because it was indoors, it wasn't outside.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh so it's kind of like because you know, they
had to dig the whole.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right, Yeah, it makes yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
August twenty sixth, eighteen seventy four, Private Joseph Michard, a
twenty three year old soldier from Quebec, is the first
person to be hanging in Manitoba.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
A large crowd showing up outside the jail.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
At eight am for the hanging, despite the fact that
it was an indoors show with a pre selected gallery
of just twenty that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
We're able to wash.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Do you think there's any spirits from those that might
want to say to hello tonight.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So we'll give that back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sure thing of interest history wise, not ghost wise, necessarily,
everybody knows next door, like the parquade and that creepy garage, right,
that's actually a one fourteen king and that one was
actually I won't bore you with the whole history and
all that, but it was quite how do you say?
(29:21):
It was like the first dealership in in Winnipeg and
Western Manitoba for the longest time.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I guess, like you know, with everything progressing.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Me and Ashley had a conversation before about you were
saying that that was like for horses.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right, but it actually wasn't. And really, yeah, I wasn't
trying to disprove.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Ashley or anything like that because I like it when
she takes me on investigations.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So I don't want to piss her off.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But so basically the facility next door, it doesn't have anything.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
The far a as to it, it was always like
a dealership.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And the weird thing because, like you know, with the
like say eighteen eighty two, while it seriously affected some
parts of the local economy, it didn't have a devastating
effect on the wholesale sector, which was the exchange district. Right,
So the areas between east and west of Main Street
developed into the warehouse district between eighteen eighties and eighteen
(30:18):
nineties and then rapidly to the nineteen hundreds. So in
saying that one of the unique developments was the growth
of the automobiles in the city, fellow by the name
of Eb Kendrick, a professor at Saint John's College, introduced
the first automobile to.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Winnipeg in nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
So tomorrow you can talk about this at work and say,
did you know that the first automobile in Winnipeg was
here in nineteen oh one, nineteen eline whatever. Anyway, So
by nineteen oh three the automobile business was established, and
it was taken over by a McCullough and Boswell who
built a garage on William Avenue. And then the Winnipeg
(30:55):
Automobile Club was organized in nineteen oh four, and then
by nineteen oh eight there was nearly three hundred cars
on Olympic streets, which is kind of crazy. So they're
running horse driven carriages and cars at the same time.
Can you imagine the calamity like that might have been?
Just anyway people can arrive nowadays, can you imagine back then?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Probably didn't even have turn signals back then either.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So in nineteen oh three, carriage retailer Joseph maw began
selling r old vehicles aka oldsmobiles and Cadillacs in a
portion of his business block on the southeast corner of
King Street and William But it wasn't long before supply
demanded a large or more modern facility. So in nineteen
oh seven, Man took out a permit to build a
(31:40):
one story garage and show room on his property situated
opposite at that point the Central Fire Hall on King
which is next door here. And it said he owned
this property till in nineteen thirty and he made it
the city's first grade automotive center. So now, from nineteen
(32:01):
thirty four to nineteen sixty four, City Ray Company and
Olifson Transportation Company occupied the property, and then it was.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Silpit Industries that owned it, So technically.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
One fourteen King Building was never a stable, as rumor
may have have it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
The City Dray.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Company was founded in eighteen ninety four as a horse
drawn vehicle form out of his house on Stanley Street,
and in nineteen oh nine he had thirty five horses.
But then once he brought like a two cylinder truck
into the fray of things, it was still remained to
(32:41):
be like just cars.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
So it's not that the company.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That resided there, or one of the companies that resided
there wasn't necessarily What I'm trying to say is they
didn't have horses, but before they turned into trucks, they
had horses.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
There was never drunks or never horses. Next, rum and boring,
but kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Where we are.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
We are at seven. Should we take a break and
then and then tell some other ghost stories?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, and then you can talk some actual ghost stories
and have everybody come up here and share.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and we'll tell some ghost stories too.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Absolutely, we can definitely share something or even ask them
questions because they've got a lot of experience.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So we'll take about ten minute break.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, so you know, feel free ten minutes ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Bathroom, drinks and food downstairs. We got some merchandise over
here and in the corner. Yeah, we'll be back in
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Thank you, I thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So as we say at the end of the very
podcast episode because we're recorded and remember.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of every day like it is your last. But never
give up the ghost. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Do you never remembered? I know, I know you did well.
Excuse so well it was time to ring. Yep, wow,
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