August 30, 2023 • 35 mins
Ana Ruiz is the content creator behind the family travel account: Monos Viajeros. As an Ecuadorian mother of two (soon to be three), she was not ready to give up travel. Despite hearing horror stories about how difficult and terrible it would be to travel with young children, she decided to go against the advice of others and continue traveling with her husband and two kids, including a 10 month intercontinental trip back in 2021-22. Since then, Ana has launched her own business as a certified family travel coach to help guide other parents through the anxieties and struggles of traveling with children.
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Welcome back to the Globe Trotters podcast. I'm your host John Otaro and I'm
maximil Gonzalez. Last week's episode featuredanother edition of the Layover series, our
monthly travel show in which we investigateall things travel, update you on the
latest travel news, and occasionally we'lllook into a questionable travel trend. So
you don't have to But on today'sepisode, we're going to be speaking to
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Anna Ruis aka monos yahiros. Annais a travel creator, family travel coach,
and nomadic soul. She's currently basedin California, and although she is
one hundred percent Ecuadorian yep, sheproclaims to be that crazy mom of two
who decided to say yes to traveleven after she had kids. Now she
helps moms reconnect with travel and thosewho dare to say yes to the life
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where they still do things they lovewith a couple of diapers in the bag,
Anna, thank you so much forbeing on the show. Thank you
so much for having me. It'shonestly a pleasure to meet you guys and
to be able to share my storyon your podcast. I see Mamma,
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and up until a few weeks agowhen we met, I had never heard
of a family travel coach. Canyou tell our listeners how you got involved
in this very niche but needed business, And can you tell us also what
a family travel coach is? Absolutely? You know, when I started traveling
with my kids, I did notknow what a family travel coach was either,
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And I think in my own experienceof learning how to travel with my
own kids, I realized that thereweren't many resources for moms, specifically because
in reality, most of the time, the mom is the big person trying
to deal with all the logistics oftraveling with kids, and there aren't many
resources. So I became interested inhelping other moms do what I was doing
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because I had found so much joyin doing this crazy thing, like you
said, of traveling with my kids. So I bump into the Travel Coach
Network, which is actually a platformthat certifies travel coaches in different types of
travel solo travel, wellness travel,and so on. So I was like,
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Hey, what if I could learnhow to be a coach, just
like you hire a health coach,a life coach, a fitness coach,
what if I could be a travelcoach, a family travel coach. So
I became super interested. I gotcertified, and I kind of combined that
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with my experience. I wanted toknow how to, you know, uncover
the layers of the barriers that maybe holding people back. So it started
as something that I was doing,and then I definitely wanted to share with
other moms. So I guess that'show you can summarize it. First,
first question in and I already learnedsomething I had no idea that existed.
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Max, Yeah, no, Ireally didn't. I mean it makes sense
that there should be people who dothis and we're like, I don't have
kids. I'm really happy that youdo it for the people that do have
kids, because I have a lotof friends you do, and they claim
because they have kids they can't travel, and yet here you are teaching people
how to do that, and Ijust I love the concept. Yes,
yes, absolutely true. I thinkdefinitely the experience helps, but then going
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the extra level of like understanding howto coach people definitely helps do what I
do. Yeah, as I mentioned, we don't have kids yet. But
before we start talking about traveling asa family, can you take us back
to what it was like when youwere just traveling on your own or with
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your partner and you know, pleasebe honest with us. What were the
biggest advantages or you know, what'sthe one thing that you miss the most
about traveling without kids. Sure,let me start by saying that I believe
it or not, I used totravel way less when it was only me
and my husband. We used towork a lot, and there was like
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the two week vacation the one thingI guess that I really miss when it
was only the two of us,And that you can probably identify with this.
You can really like pull through anythingwhen it's just you. It doesn't
matter if you're not eating, itdoesn't matter if you're like skeeping lunch.
It doesn't matter if you go tobed at two am and then wake up
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at seven am. So I definitelyenjoyed being able to do that and know
that, you know what, noother life is that. And now when
you have kids, that is somethingthat you know if you do it one
day, maybe, but like it'snot sustainable. You cannot travel with kids
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that way and expect everyone to havea good time, everyone to be well
arrested, everyone to stay healthy.So that's something that brings like very very
good memories from the young times ofonly me and my husband. So yeah,
I would say definitely that's something thatI miss and you know, we're
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I'm kind of leading into this nextquestion because I think it plays on a
little bit a little bit of whatmy biggest fear would be, especially traveling
with an infant, being on planes. You mentioned that your daughter Nala was
only three months old back in Augustof twenty eighteen and you took her to
Ecuador for the first travel adventure.What was that experience like and what was
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the toughest part as a first timetraveling parent. I'd say, I know
that I'm on the other side ofthe experience. Definitely, the hardest part
was everything that was on my mind, all the thoughts, you know,
like all the pre worries that Ihad before actually bought in the plane because
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I did not have any friends thatwere doing it. I did not have
any relatives that we're doing it.I just knew I wanted to do it.
Like once I had now lie inmy arms, I was like,
why would I want to leave youhere and me go over there? Enjoy
life, travel and everything. We'regoing together and even if it was scary,
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we are doing it. So definitely, all the thoughts and the fears
before because all the other things thatyou may expect, like oh, we
didn't get much sleep, we hadto carry tons of stuff, all of
these things I am already doing asa mom in my house. When I'm
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going to the supermarket, I'm alreadylike bringing all this stuff with. I
am already, you know, dealingwith motherhood. And it doesn't change when
you travel. You're still going todo all these things. But it was
just knowing that's the first time you'redoing something, and there's always fear in
the unknown. When you're doing somethingfor the very first time, that's what's
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scary. So I think it's incredibleto be able to do things even when
you're scared and then see what happensafterwards. That's what happened to me.
I love it. And then youyou, I remember in our conversation you
said that Nalo actually did pretty wellon their first flight, right, yes,
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yes, yes, I remember youasking a little bit about that she
did great. You know, Iwas like terrified. I don't even know
what I was scared of, maybeher crying NonStop. I guess that's like
what every parent imagines, like they'rejust gonna cry the entire plane. Right.
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But now that I've now that Ihave two and I've traveled with both
of them since they're little, Iknow that most of the time, the
smaller the youngest the baby is,the more chances they're going to sleep for
like the entire flight, And whichwas almost what happened with Nalla. She
slept almost entirely. She was verysmall, so like she fit perfectly in
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my arms. I did not getenough sleep, and that's something that you
know was to be expected. Butyou know, after having brought so many
flights with her, I know thisvery very first flight was not a bad
experience at all. Your since yourfirst trip was that in twenty eighteen.
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Since then, you've gone on severaltrips with both of your kids. You've
been to Ecuador, Spain, France, Greece, Croatia, Turkey, Brazil,
and Morocco, which, yeah,which is quite a diverse group of
countries scattered all around the world.You did several of these countries during a
ten month continuous trip, five ofwhich were spent in Ecuador. What was
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the motivation behind this trip, youknow, Louis fe my husband and I
always talked about just going on along trip we had Just like I said,
we had only been able to traveltwice twice a year, and one
of those times would be like alonger trip two to three weeks. But
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that was it the maximum that wehad travel. And we always talked about,
like we should just do a longtrip, but we just never did
it. We both worked full timeand things kind of started aligning. He
got a new job where he startedearning commission base and at some point,
like one day, he was like, we should just go to Equator.
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I think he really missed his parentsbecause they are in Equator. We should
just book a one way flight toEcuador. And that's literally all it took
for me to be like, areyou are you serious? We're doing it
like I drop everything. Usually it'sme trying to compete. So we just
did it. We did not knowthe trip was gonna last ten months.
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This was November twenty twenty one.We only knew, okay, we're buying
one way ticket. We're going toa quarter because family friends is easy to
start there, and then let's atleast stay till Lucas my son's birthday,
which was in March. That wasthe only plan we had once we were
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there, we were like, there'sno way we're going back home, Like
do we need to keep traveling?You're already there, and you know,
Max mentioned so many countries, andso I guess I naturally want to ask
you what were some of the resourcesyou used, if any, that helped
you prepare for this trip, andmainly why did you choose those countries?
Like were you tailoring it to yourkids, to your own desires? Just
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take me through that, sure,and this is complete transparency. So because
I know some people may want totravel long term, but I want to
speak out of my own experience.We knew we wanted to travel long term,
but we don't believe in planning everything. We believe in like letting the
universe kind of guide you and seewhat happened. So, like I told
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you before, we knew Ecuador mainlybecause we wanted to spend time with family.
We wanted the kids' grandparents to spendtime with them. We want to
look us birthly there, and itwas also an affordable option for us because
we had friends we like stayed withfamily for so long. But then there
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was a point like, okay,this feels quite safe. We came from
the us where we live, andnow we come to the Equador where we
were born, like I need someexhilaration. We need to go somewhere new.
And I had always wanted to goto Brazil, always like it was
on Brasil. Now now I wantto like live in Brazil. So since
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we are in South America already,we started like thinking, like, hey,
where do we go to Brazil?We have a friend there, so
we started choosing destinations based on that. Once we were in Brazil, we
didn't know where we were going togo next, so every destination was like
selected basically at the point where wewere like, okay, it's about that
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time when we're about to exceed ourvisay, we need to think about the
next destination. So we chose Brazilbecause we had friends there, because I
wanted to go. We wanted toexplore the northeast part of Brazil, and
because it was why the northeast partof Brazil? I mean, Brazil is
a huge country. What does thenortheast have that our listeners would be interested
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in? It's such a now thatI've been there, for me, it's
such a magical and unexplored plays likemost foreign airs, for foreign airs.
It's like such a hard word forme to say. But most people,
most people who are from the USsay they go to Rio the Geneto,
right, you know, like theywant to go see the card of all,
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but they don't know much else aboutBrazil. And I had always heard
about this town in the northeast ofBrazil that's court called Jericua Guada, and
it's place that has rainwater lagoons andit's basically a beach that's completely surrounded by
sand, so you can only accessit by like truck and four by four
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cars. So I became fascinated bythe north East and just beaches and the
weather and the people and music.So all of these things really really attracted
me to this specific part of Brazil. So now that I've been there,
I was like, yeah, itwas absolutely beautiful to spend time. There's
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one of the most beautiful places thatI've been to. So definitely added to
your list. Yeah good, Imean I will do Yeah. Yeah,
I was gonna say, we havean ongoing list that we just are aiding
to it. Yeah, from allof our guests that we have on everyone's
hitting us with new spots and it'sit's great because now we have to do
zero planning. We just look atthe list and we're good. Yeah.
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Facts. I would kind of wantto go back to, you know,
talking about traveling with you know,your kids and the family. Uh.
And I wanted to know, likethe impact that this has on your kids?
So how did how did they respondto all the changes that occurred during
this ten month trip emotionally and mentally, It's it was life. You know,
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they didn't know any different. Wejust brought them on this trip.
Now yeah, they you know,they're There was a point where I started
noticing that the most common thing waslike, Okay, tomorrow we are gonna
go take a bus from Esauda toMarrakesh in Moro. Like I would just
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tell them what we're gonna do,and Nala would be like, oh,
where are we sleeping today? Here? Are we going to a new city?
Is it an rbnb? Like itjust came like I say, life
And now that I'm back home,Like sometimes I get melancholic when I remember
those days, because it was likewaking up. We were in a different
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place where if eating different things.My husband and my daughter were buying fresh
fruit, fresh fish from the markets. We were cooking at our herbnbs,
we were meeting new people. Sofor me, it's one of the most
incredible gifts that I have given mykids and that I have given myself.
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Like right now, there are thingsthat my son remembers. He was one
year old and he remembers he wasn'triding a camel, Like I don't even
know, how do you know this? So I'm sure there are things that
we lived together that they may notremember in the same way that I do,
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but they are in them forever.Like my daughter knows what chakram means,
so it's what does it mean?Yeah, I gotta share it.
Chakram. We learned that in Morocco. Yeah. So actually yea, So
these are worse than she was repeatingwhen she was with my husband and they
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were like buying things and then shewas saying chokram and like salamacom when she
would, you know, say helloto people and you know, unique core
memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. And you know, just
as a follow up question to Max's, where there were ever at any point
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in times that your kids are askingyou questions that are specific to like y
area, why is this like this? Uh? You know, because you
are seeing such a contrast from likeBrazil to Europe to you know, northern
Africa. It's very different. Idon't recall having a specific conversation with them,
like wondering. I think they arevery young for them to notice like
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cultural differences. For example, somethingthat perhaps we didn't talk about, like
Nala didn't notice women like wearing teajob is yep in Morocco. So that
is something that definitely caught her attention, and it is something that would have
been so hard for her to witnessor even like become interested in if I
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had never taken her to a placewhere she actually can see women and she
can see that they're just like us. They're just deciding to do this differently,
and and that's it. We're allhuman beings, eat different people,
we speak different languages, but youare the same. Yeah. I can
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only imagine they're learning countless lessons throughtravel, you know, just being exposed
to it at such a young age. It's just a beautiful thing. Yeah,
every every day that we're here inCalifornia, I'm like, this is
so cliche, Like, can youjust not grow so I can take your
traveling again and you can keep learningfrom the world. Yeah, we've talked
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a lot about travel, but oneof the things that you're very resourceful about
is helping families when it comes totravel. So you offer private travel coaching
for moms, which can be singleor multiple sessions. What are some of
the topics you discussed, or betterasked, what are some of the challenges
most moms approach you about. Iknow you talked about fear earlier. Yeah,
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and you know what fear? Thisis something that usually is the trigger
moms to want to seek for help, like they know they are fearing something,
but sometimes they don't know what reallythey're scared of. And based on
my experience, most of the momswho work with me seek help because they're
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either traveling for the first time withtheir kids and they just don't know where
to even start, or they're scaredof flying with their kids. So we
start with that, but then throughcoaching we discover that there are other things
in there, like the barriers,like they just believing that they don't have
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enough resources, or them dealing withthe bulk of planning the trip by themselves.
Some moms have actually said, likeI feel it's just me doing everything,
me packing for the kids, mepacking for me, me buying the
tickets, and the husbands sometimes arenot as involved is dealing with all these
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things. I've also here just soyou know in the future, you know
this is this is very important.But you know what a lot of these
moms, the same moms when Iasked them where we'll have you told your
husband that you need help? Andthey're like, oh, no, you
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know. So it's kind of likeuncovering these things like Okay, this is
heavy on you, but what isactually in your control? What can you
do to get more help. Usuallyour coaching get structures, so we cover
different things depending on the goals thatthe mom may have. But almost every
time we end up talking about moneyand like how much do you actually need
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to travel with kids? And wetogether we do a lot of work of
like okay, well let's let's lookat your finances. This is like the
uncomfortable thing of looking at your moneybecause sometimes you feel or you think you
don't have enough to travel, butyou don't really know how much you're spending
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every month, how much he's comingevery month. So it's also a little
bit of work into gaining control ofthe money, of seeing what's in there
not being scared of it, andthen maybe being surprised that, hey,
you can save three hundred dollars everymonth and you didn't realize it, or
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hey, your money has been likeleaking this way, but you didn't realize
it. That makes a lot ofsense. Yes, So even though it
is family travel coaching, we alsodive deeper into these things that make family
travel possible for you. It's notall about the tips because I won't tell
you how to have a successful familytrip. I won't tell you how to
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avoid your kids from crying on aplane, like there's no way I can
guarantee that from happening. What Ican do is give your resources so when
it happens, you know what todo. You know that it is the
most common thing you know how togo back to yourself to be like,
Okay, this is why I'm doingthis, even though it is hard,
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I am choosing to do it becauseI love to travel, you know.
And you had told me this storywhen when we first approached you about possibly
talking on this topic. You saidthat on your first airplane ride with Nala,
that or not your first one,that it could have been Lucas's first
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one, that he was crying,and that you felt, you know,
a little bit nervous and like kindof I don't want to say ashamed,
But then you really thought about itand you're like, I'm never going to
see these people again. This doesn'tmatter. I will be okay. Yes,
And you know it wasn't Luca,it was Nala and it was when
she was sixteen months old, soshe had already boarded like seven flights by
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that age. So we were likesuper confident, like we got this in
the bag, and the day wewere supposed to travel, she woke up
with a running nose. You know. I was like, okay, like
what are the odds today? ButI wasn't planning on having like an awful
flight or anything. And it wasa direct flight from La to Paris,
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so it was like a ten hourflight and it was an overnight flight.
So we did everything as usual andthen I don't know, we're flying and
she started feeling really really sick,like she started crying on stop. She
even threw up on me, andthere was a French guy next to us
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like telling us do you have apacifier? In French, like trying for
us to understand. We're like youknow what we are trying. You know,
it's not like we don't care.We don't want to discount for people,
but you know, we are doingeverything in our power to make her
feel better. I don't like mydaughter crying, and I don't like making
you uncomfortable. So we definitely didour best. We walk her and you
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know what, it lasted for likegood four hours. There were some people
like but you know when I thinkI told you this, at the end
of the day, like she startedfeeling better. I changed my shirt,
like this is a tip that Iget a suggest like bring extra clothes in
case you get through you know,vomit all over you. But she ended
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up feeling better and by the endof it, she was playing with the
flight attendance and the rest of theflight was great. Okay. I think
it's really important for people to realizethere's only so much preparation you can do.
Right. You should definitely prepare asmuch as you can, but you
know, at the end of theday, things are going to happen not
according to plan, and you gottaroll with it, you know. I
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think it's really important for people notto beat themselves up on it, especially
when it comes to traveling with kids, you know, make sure that you
get to see the world and theydo as well. And if they carry
on a flight, I mean,it's gonna suck for everyone. But what
are you gonna do? Right correct? You want to go through these challenges
because that is how you learn whenyou know, Okay, my daughter had
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the hardest flight ever and we stillmade it through. The next time it
happens, it's like, Okay,I know I'm going to be more calm
now I know how to handle this. Yeah, and you said something that
that's important. During that flight orthat experience, you were trying. You
were genuinely trying. And I thinkanyone that is looking at you, if
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you're trying to do everything in yourpower to stop your baby from from from
whaling, you know you can't askfor anymore. I think I would be
a little bit more upset if thebaby is just crying and the person is
like sleeping or trying to sleep andnot doing anything. So you know,
I've I've I've seen it both ways. I've never said anything because for what
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Yeah, yeah, I agree,it's like just being sensitive to people around
you because you're not traveling alone.So yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So
your your family travel, your travelfamily coaching business is called Manos Viejos and
you offer a free five day emailcourse which is called the Art of Family
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Travel and it's completely free. Canyou elaborate a bit more about this for
our listeners who may be interested inlearning more about your course? Absolutely.
I would say that it's the mostcomplete free resource that I have for families
who want to dip their toes intofamily travel. And I've intentionally made it
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kind of like a five day courseand not a guide that you kind of
like dive in one sitting us.It's split by topics, and I think
it's important to kind of analyze familytravel from different lenses, like you can
say, flying with kids, butalso choosing accommodation, like the types of
accommodation and what are the benefits ofeach of them, and ways to save
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when you're traveling with kids, tipsfor travel gear and all this stuff.
So the course overall is kind oflike a complete resource to fill you in
and what the family travel experience isall about and leave your feeling equipped so
you can try it, because ultimately, the best teacher is gonna be the
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experience, Like you won't feel asready until you do it for yourself.
But this course is meant to definitelygive you some good insights on my own
experience with five years traveling with bothof my kids, and without giving too
much, because I do want peopleto look into these resources on their own
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and on their own free time.Accommodations. You mentioned how to choose the
right accommodations. What are some thingsparents should think about in regards to accommodations
when traveling with their kids. SoI always, I always like to talk
about hotels and airbnb locations, althoughI have also stayed at hostels with my
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kids, just because hotels interview thatthey're like the most common thing, and
I don't like making the parents choose, you know, be like, if
you're doing a hotel, you canonly do hotel. I like highlighting the
benefits of each of them. Wedo both of them depending on the location.
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So moving on to my next question. You know, if there's one
piece of device you can give toany mom or family that is has its
and to travel because of their kids, what would it be. I wrote
it that because I didn't want toforget so I thought about it a long
time because there's always tips that Iwant to say, but I would say,
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only you know if this is somethingyou want to try, because there
are moms who just don't want todo it, then that's okay. But
the only no, the only wayto know for sure is if you actually
do it. So based on whatI said before, you may be scared.
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You may be listening to what otherpeople around you say, like don't
do it, that's crazy, likedon't where are you bringing your kids?
But if there's something inside of youthat's pulling you to it, quiet the
mind, listen to the heart,and then just go for it. You
will know for sure if this issomething for you unless you do it and
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until you do it, so thatwould be it, it said, and
I couldn't agree more. So It'stime to move on to Max's favorite segment
of the show, and that's therapid fire questions. Are you ready?
Yes, favorite dish in any countryyou have visited. I thought about it
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for a little bit, but Ihave to say, in Ecuador there's this
breakfast dish called Bologne the Kiss,so specifically so it's made out of cheese
and plantain, and it's my favoritething in the world. I would have
it for breakfast every single day.So I don't think I've tried anything else
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so far in the world that Iwould choose over it. Okay, high
praise. Favorite beverage in any countryyou have visited, alcoholic or otherwise alcoholic.
No, no, that I can'thave it. But in Spain there's
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so much alcohol, insane. Butlast time I went, I just couldn't
get enough of the beer with orangejuice, which is called at Clara.
It was just the perfect thing,maybe because we were traveling in summer,
but I just love it. Icould drink a lot of those, and
I kind of love the That's whatI thought you were going to say originally,
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but I had never heard anyone mentionedthe first one. So that's a
very original answer. It's good,good, good next place you plan on
visiting, and why I wish Iknew, just because right now I'm pregnant.
We don't have any like plan trips, but we would love to go
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not it's been asking to go toSoutheast Asia. She wants to see the
elephants. We went there when shewas in my belly. I was eight
weeks pregnant, and we always tellher like you could see everything to my
about it. So she always sayslike, I would love to go there
and see the elephants, So maybetell this Asia and that is going to
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be a very special trip when shegets to realize that dream. So I'm
excited for her. Most underrated cityor place you have been to? I
also thought about that for a while, and I think just for the underrated
part, I would say the lawyerof Lawyer Violet Lawyer Violey in France.
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I did not know about this place, and we discovered thanks to a relative
that we have. She lives inSpain and we were going to Spain and
she said, we need to goto this place and this all the France.
So we did. We rented acar and we rode tripped. Luca
was five months old, but wedid this. We rode trip through this
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real and it's beautiful. It's likefilled with castles and wine tasting. So
I would definitely say that area ofFrance really really. We enjoyed it a
lot, Okay, And the numberone place you'd like to visit with your
kids or without. Let me startby saying that there's no place in the
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world I would want to go withoutmy kids. So there's one thing and
then we really I would really loveto do a South America trip with them,
like just like the one we didand be like, we don't even
know how long this is gonna last, but we would want to go to
South America. I want to takeyou to every single country in South America.
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So that's definitely something that I wouldlove to do with them. Awesome,
great answers. If our listeners wantto learn more about you and the
resources you were able to provide,where can they find you? Absolutely,
first, thank you so much forinviting me. I love that you are
so open to talk about this topiceven as nonparents, so I really really
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appreciate that. And you can findall of our crazy family adventures and more
family travel coaching at Monos viajdos onInstagram which by the way means traveler Monkeys
on Instagram, on TikTok as well, and we also have a website where
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I maintain a blog, and Monosviros dot com. So those are the
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Welcome back to the Globe Trotters podcast. I'm your host John Otaro and I'm
maximil Gonzalez. Last week's episode featuredanother edition of the Layover series, our
monthly travel show in which we investigateall things travel, update you on the
latest travel news, and occasionally we'lllook into a questionable travel trend. So
you don't have to But on today'sepisode, we're going to be speaking to
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Anna Ruis aka monos yahiros. Annais a travel creator, family travel coach,
and nomadic soul. She's currently basedin California, and although she is
one hundred percent Ecuadorian yep, sheproclaims to be that crazy mom of two
who decided to say yes to traveleven after she had kids. Now she
helps moms reconnect with travel and thosewho dare to say yes to the life
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where they still do things they lovewith a couple of diapers in the bag,
Anna, thank you so much forbeing on the show. Thank you
so much for having me. It'shonestly a pleasure to meet you guys and
to be able to share my storyon your podcast. I see Mamma,
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and up until a few weeks agowhen we met, I had never heard
of a family travel coach. Canyou tell our listeners how you got involved
in this very niche but needed business, And can you tell us also what
a family travel coach is? Absolutely? You know, when I started traveling
with my kids, I did notknow what a family travel coach was either,
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And I think in my own experienceof learning how to travel with my
own kids, I realized that thereweren't many resources for moms, specifically because
in reality, most of the time, the mom is the big person trying
to deal with all the logistics oftraveling with kids, and there aren't many
resources. So I became interested inhelping other moms do what I was doing
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because I had found so much joyin doing this crazy thing, like you
said, of traveling with my kids. So I bump into the Travel Coach
Network, which is actually a platformthat certifies travel coaches in different types of
travel solo travel, wellness travel,and so on. So I was like,
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Hey, what if I could learnhow to be a coach, just
like you hire a health coach,a life coach, a fitness coach,
what if I could be a travelcoach, a family travel coach. So
I became super interested. I gotcertified, and I kind of combined that
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with my experience. I wanted toknow how to, you know, uncover
the layers of the barriers that maybe holding people back. So it started
as something that I was doing,and then I definitely wanted to share with
other moms. So I guess that'show you can summarize it. First,
first question in and I already learnedsomething I had no idea that existed.
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Max, Yeah, no, Ireally didn't. I mean it makes sense
that there should be people who dothis and we're like, I don't have
kids. I'm really happy that youdo it for the people that do have
kids, because I have a lotof friends you do, and they claim
because they have kids they can't travel, and yet here you are teaching people
how to do that, and Ijust I love the concept. Yes,
yes, absolutely true. I thinkdefinitely the experience helps, but then going
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the extra level of like understanding howto coach people definitely helps do what I
do. Yeah, as I mentioned, we don't have kids yet. But
before we start talking about traveling asa family, can you take us back
to what it was like when youwere just traveling on your own or with
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your partner and you know, pleasebe honest with us. What were the
biggest advantages or you know, what'sthe one thing that you miss the most
about traveling without kids. Sure,let me start by saying that I believe
it or not, I used totravel way less when it was only me
and my husband. We used towork a lot, and there was like
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the two week vacation the one thingI guess that I really miss when it
was only the two of us,And that you can probably identify with this.
You can really like pull through anythingwhen it's just you. It doesn't
matter if you're not eating, itdoesn't matter if you're like skeeping lunch.
It doesn't matter if you go tobed at two am and then wake up
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at seven am. So I definitelyenjoyed being able to do that and know
that, you know what, noother life is that. And now when
you have kids, that is somethingthat you know if you do it one
day, maybe, but like it'snot sustainable. You cannot travel with kids
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that way and expect everyone to havea good time, everyone to be well
arrested, everyone to stay healthy.So that's something that brings like very very
good memories from the young times ofonly me and my husband. So yeah,
I would say definitely that's something thatI miss and you know, we're
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I'm kind of leading into this nextquestion because I think it plays on a
little bit a little bit of whatmy biggest fear would be, especially traveling
with an infant, being on planes. You mentioned that your daughter Nala was
only three months old back in Augustof twenty eighteen and you took her to
Ecuador for the first travel adventure.What was that experience like and what was
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the toughest part as a first timetraveling parent. I'd say, I know
that I'm on the other side ofthe experience. Definitely, the hardest part
was everything that was on my mind, all the thoughts, you know,
like all the pre worries that Ihad before actually bought in the plane because
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I did not have any friends thatwere doing it. I did not have
any relatives that we're doing it.I just knew I wanted to do it.
Like once I had now lie inmy arms, I was like,
why would I want to leave youhere and me go over there? Enjoy
life, travel and everything. We'regoing together and even if it was scary,
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we are doing it. So definitely, all the thoughts and the fears
before because all the other things thatyou may expect, like oh, we
didn't get much sleep, we hadto carry tons of stuff, all of
these things I am already doing asa mom in my house. When I'm
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going to the supermarket, I'm alreadylike bringing all this stuff with. I
am already, you know, dealingwith motherhood. And it doesn't change when
you travel. You're still going todo all these things. But it was
just knowing that's the first time you'redoing something, and there's always fear in
the unknown. When you're doing somethingfor the very first time, that's what's
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scary. So I think it's incredibleto be able to do things even when
you're scared and then see what happensafterwards. That's what happened to me.
I love it. And then youyou, I remember in our conversation you
said that Nalo actually did pretty wellon their first flight, right, yes,
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yes, yes, I remember youasking a little bit about that she
did great. You know, Iwas like terrified. I don't even know
what I was scared of, maybeher crying NonStop. I guess that's like
what every parent imagines, like they'rejust gonna cry the entire plane. Right.
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But now that I've now that Ihave two and I've traveled with both
of them since they're little, Iknow that most of the time, the
smaller the youngest the baby is,the more chances they're going to sleep for
like the entire flight, And whichwas almost what happened with Nalla. She
slept almost entirely. She was verysmall, so like she fit perfectly in
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my arms. I did not getenough sleep, and that's something that you
know was to be expected. Butyou know, after having brought so many
flights with her, I know thisvery very first flight was not a bad
experience at all. Your since yourfirst trip was that in twenty eighteen.
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Since then, you've gone on severaltrips with both of your kids. You've
been to Ecuador, Spain, France, Greece, Croatia, Turkey, Brazil,
and Morocco, which, yeah,which is quite a diverse group of
countries scattered all around the world.You did several of these countries during a
ten month continuous trip, five ofwhich were spent in Ecuador. What was
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the motivation behind this trip, youknow, Louis fe my husband and I
always talked about just going on along trip we had Just like I said,
we had only been able to traveltwice twice a year, and one
of those times would be like alonger trip two to three weeks. But
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that was it the maximum that wehad travel. And we always talked about,
like we should just do a longtrip, but we just never did
it. We both worked full timeand things kind of started aligning. He
got a new job where he startedearning commission base and at some point,
like one day, he was like, we should just go to Equator.
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I think he really missed his parentsbecause they are in Equator. We should
just book a one way flight toEcuador. And that's literally all it took
for me to be like, areyou are you serious? We're doing it
like I drop everything. Usually it'sme trying to compete. So we just
did it. We did not knowthe trip was gonna last ten months.
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This was November twenty twenty one.We only knew, okay, we're buying
one way ticket. We're going toa quarter because family friends is easy to
start there, and then let's atleast stay till Lucas my son's birthday,
which was in March. That wasthe only plan we had once we were
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there, we were like, there'sno way we're going back home, Like
do we need to keep traveling?You're already there, and you know,
Max mentioned so many countries, andso I guess I naturally want to ask
you what were some of the resourcesyou used, if any, that helped
you prepare for this trip, andmainly why did you choose those countries?
Like were you tailoring it to yourkids, to your own desires? Just
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take me through that, sure,and this is complete transparency. So because
I know some people may want totravel long term, but I want to
speak out of my own experience.We knew we wanted to travel long term,
but we don't believe in planning everything. We believe in like letting the
universe kind of guide you and seewhat happened. So, like I told
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you before, we knew Ecuador mainlybecause we wanted to spend time with family.
We wanted the kids' grandparents to spendtime with them. We want to
look us birthly there, and itwas also an affordable option for us because
we had friends we like stayed withfamily for so long. But then there
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was a point like, okay,this feels quite safe. We came from
the us where we live, andnow we come to the Equador where we
were born, like I need someexhilaration. We need to go somewhere new.
And I had always wanted to goto Brazil, always like it was
on Brasil. Now now I wantto like live in Brazil. So since
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we are in South America already,we started like thinking, like, hey,
where do we go to Brazil?We have a friend there, so
we started choosing destinations based on that. Once we were in Brazil, we
didn't know where we were going togo next, so every destination was like
selected basically at the point where wewere like, okay, it's about that
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time when we're about to exceed ourvisay, we need to think about the
next destination. So we chose Brazilbecause we had friends there, because I
wanted to go. We wanted toexplore the northeast part of Brazil, and
because it was why the northeast partof Brazil? I mean, Brazil is
a huge country. What does thenortheast have that our listeners would be interested
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in? It's such a now thatI've been there, for me, it's
such a magical and unexplored plays likemost foreign airs, for foreign airs.
It's like such a hard word forme to say. But most people,
most people who are from the USsay they go to Rio the Geneto,
right, you know, like theywant to go see the card of all,
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but they don't know much else aboutBrazil. And I had always heard
about this town in the northeast ofBrazil that's court called Jericua Guada, and
it's place that has rainwater lagoons andit's basically a beach that's completely surrounded by
sand, so you can only accessit by like truck and four by four
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cars. So I became fascinated bythe north East and just beaches and the
weather and the people and music.So all of these things really really attracted
me to this specific part of Brazil. So now that I've been there,
I was like, yeah, itwas absolutely beautiful to spend time. There's
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one of the most beautiful places thatI've been to. So definitely added to
your list. Yeah good, Imean I will do Yeah. Yeah,
I was gonna say, we havean ongoing list that we just are aiding
to it. Yeah, from allof our guests that we have on everyone's
hitting us with new spots and it'sit's great because now we have to do
zero planning. We just look atthe list and we're good. Yeah.
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Facts. I would kind of wantto go back to, you know,
talking about traveling with you know,your kids and the family. Uh.
And I wanted to know, likethe impact that this has on your kids?
So how did how did they respondto all the changes that occurred during
this ten month trip emotionally and mentally, It's it was life. You know,
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they didn't know any different. Wejust brought them on this trip.
Now yeah, they you know,they're There was a point where I started
noticing that the most common thing waslike, Okay, tomorrow we are gonna
go take a bus from Esauda toMarrakesh in Moro. Like I would just
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tell them what we're gonna do,and Nala would be like, oh,
where are we sleeping today? Here? Are we going to a new city?
Is it an rbnb? Like itjust came like I say, life
And now that I'm back home,Like sometimes I get melancholic when I remember
those days, because it was likewaking up. We were in a different
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place where if eating different things.My husband and my daughter were buying fresh
fruit, fresh fish from the markets. We were cooking at our herbnbs,
we were meeting new people. Sofor me, it's one of the most
incredible gifts that I have given mykids and that I have given myself.
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Like right now, there are thingsthat my son remembers. He was one
year old and he remembers he wasn'triding a camel, Like I don't even
know, how do you know this? So I'm sure there are things that
we lived together that they may notremember in the same way that I do,
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but they are in them forever.Like my daughter knows what chakram means,
so it's what does it mean?Yeah, I gotta share it.
Chakram. We learned that in Morocco. Yeah. So actually yea, So
these are worse than she was repeatingwhen she was with my husband and they
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were like buying things and then shewas saying chokram and like salamacom when she
would, you know, say helloto people and you know, unique core
memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. And you know, just
as a follow up question to Max's, where there were ever at any point
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in times that your kids are askingyou questions that are specific to like y
area, why is this like this? Uh? You know, because you
are seeing such a contrast from likeBrazil to Europe to you know, northern
Africa. It's very different. Idon't recall having a specific conversation with them,
like wondering. I think they arevery young for them to notice like
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cultural differences. For example, somethingthat perhaps we didn't talk about, like
Nala didn't notice women like wearing teajob is yep in Morocco. So that
is something that definitely caught her attention, and it is something that would have
been so hard for her to witnessor even like become interested in if I
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had never taken her to a placewhere she actually can see women and she
can see that they're just like us. They're just deciding to do this differently,
and and that's it. We're allhuman beings, eat different people,
we speak different languages, but youare the same. Yeah. I can
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only imagine they're learning countless lessons throughtravel, you know, just being exposed
to it at such a young age. It's just a beautiful thing. Yeah,
every every day that we're here inCalifornia, I'm like, this is
so cliche, Like, can youjust not grow so I can take your
traveling again and you can keep learningfrom the world. Yeah, we've talked
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a lot about travel, but oneof the things that you're very resourceful about
is helping families when it comes totravel. So you offer private travel coaching
for moms, which can be singleor multiple sessions. What are some of
the topics you discussed, or betterasked, what are some of the challenges
most moms approach you about. Iknow you talked about fear earlier. Yeah,
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and you know what fear? Thisis something that usually is the trigger
moms to want to seek for help, like they know they are fearing something,
but sometimes they don't know what reallythey're scared of. And based on
my experience, most of the momswho work with me seek help because they're
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either traveling for the first time withtheir kids and they just don't know where
to even start, or they're scaredof flying with their kids. So we
start with that, but then throughcoaching we discover that there are other things
in there, like the barriers,like they just believing that they don't have
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enough resources, or them dealing withthe bulk of planning the trip by themselves.
Some moms have actually said, likeI feel it's just me doing everything,
me packing for the kids, mepacking for me, me buying the
tickets, and the husbands sometimes arenot as involved is dealing with all these
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things. I've also here just soyou know in the future, you know
this is this is very important.But you know what a lot of these
moms, the same moms when Iasked them where we'll have you told your
husband that you need help? Andthey're like, oh, no, you
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know. So it's kind of likeuncovering these things like Okay, this is
heavy on you, but what isactually in your control? What can you
do to get more help. Usuallyour coaching get structures, so we cover
different things depending on the goals thatthe mom may have. But almost every
time we end up talking about moneyand like how much do you actually need
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to travel with kids? And wetogether we do a lot of work of
like okay, well let's let's lookat your finances. This is like the
uncomfortable thing of looking at your moneybecause sometimes you feel or you think you
don't have enough to travel, butyou don't really know how much you're spending
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every month, how much he's comingevery month. So it's also a little
bit of work into gaining control ofthe money, of seeing what's in there
not being scared of it, andthen maybe being surprised that, hey,
you can save three hundred dollars everymonth and you didn't realize it, or
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hey, your money has been likeleaking this way, but you didn't realize
it. That makes a lot ofsense. Yes, So even though it
is family travel coaching, we alsodive deeper into these things that make family
travel possible for you. It's notall about the tips because I won't tell
you how to have a successful familytrip. I won't tell you how to
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avoid your kids from crying on aplane, like there's no way I can
guarantee that from happening. What Ican do is give your resources so when
it happens, you know what todo. You know that it is the
most common thing you know how togo back to yourself to be like,
Okay, this is why I'm doingthis, even though it is hard,
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I am choosing to do it becauseI love to travel, you know.
And you had told me this storywhen when we first approached you about possibly
talking on this topic. You saidthat on your first airplane ride with Nala,
that or not your first one,that it could have been Lucas's first
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one, that he was crying,and that you felt, you know,
a little bit nervous and like kindof I don't want to say ashamed,
But then you really thought about itand you're like, I'm never going to
see these people again. This doesn'tmatter. I will be okay. Yes,
And you know it wasn't Luca,it was Nala and it was when
she was sixteen months old, soshe had already boarded like seven flights by
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that age. So we were likesuper confident, like we got this in
the bag, and the day wewere supposed to travel, she woke up
with a running nose. You know. I was like, okay, like
what are the odds today? ButI wasn't planning on having like an awful
flight or anything. And it wasa direct flight from La to Paris,
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so it was like a ten hourflight and it was an overnight flight.
So we did everything as usual andthen I don't know, we're flying and
she started feeling really really sick,like she started crying on stop. She
even threw up on me, andthere was a French guy next to us
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like telling us do you have apacifier? In French, like trying for
us to understand. We're like youknow what we are trying. You know,
it's not like we don't care.We don't want to discount for people,
but you know, we are doingeverything in our power to make her
feel better. I don't like mydaughter crying, and I don't like making
you uncomfortable. So we definitely didour best. We walk her and you
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know what, it lasted for likegood four hours. There were some people
like but you know when I thinkI told you this, at the end
of the day, like she startedfeeling better. I changed my shirt,
like this is a tip that Iget a suggest like bring extra clothes in
case you get through you know,vomit all over you. But she ended
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up feeling better and by the endof it, she was playing with the
flight attendance and the rest of theflight was great. Okay. I think
it's really important for people to realizethere's only so much preparation you can do.
Right. You should definitely prepare asmuch as you can, but you
know, at the end of theday, things are going to happen not
according to plan, and you gottaroll with it, you know. I
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think it's really important for people notto beat themselves up on it, especially
when it comes to traveling with kids, you know, make sure that you
get to see the world and theydo as well. And if they carry
on a flight, I mean,it's gonna suck for everyone. But what
are you gonna do? Right correct? You want to go through these challenges
because that is how you learn whenyou know, Okay, my daughter had
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the hardest flight ever and we stillmade it through. The next time it
happens, it's like, Okay,I know I'm going to be more calm
now I know how to handle this. Yeah, and you said something that
that's important. During that flight orthat experience, you were trying. You
were genuinely trying. And I thinkanyone that is looking at you, if
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you're trying to do everything in yourpower to stop your baby from from from
whaling, you know you can't askfor anymore. I think I would be
a little bit more upset if thebaby is just crying and the person is
like sleeping or trying to sleep andnot doing anything. So you know,
I've I've I've seen it both ways. I've never said anything because for what
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Yeah, yeah, I agree,it's like just being sensitive to people around
you because you're not traveling alone.So yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So
your your family travel, your travelfamily coaching business is called Manos Viejos and
you offer a free five day emailcourse which is called the Art of Family
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Travel and it's completely free. Canyou elaborate a bit more about this for
our listeners who may be interested inlearning more about your course? Absolutely.
I would say that it's the mostcomplete free resource that I have for families
who want to dip their toes intofamily travel. And I've intentionally made it
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kind of like a five day courseand not a guide that you kind of
like dive in one sitting us.It's split by topics, and I think
it's important to kind of analyze familytravel from different lenses, like you can
say, flying with kids, butalso choosing accommodation, like the types of
accommodation and what are the benefits ofeach of them, and ways to save
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when you're traveling with kids, tipsfor travel gear and all this stuff.
So the course overall is kind oflike a complete resource to fill you in
and what the family travel experience isall about and leave your feeling equipped so
you can try it, because ultimately, the best teacher is gonna be the
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experience, Like you won't feel asready until you do it for yourself.
But this course is meant to definitelygive you some good insights on my own
experience with five years traveling with bothof my kids, and without giving too
much, because I do want peopleto look into these resources on their own
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and on their own free time.Accommodations. You mentioned how to choose the
right accommodations. What are some thingsparents should think about in regards to accommodations
when traveling with their kids. SoI always, I always like to talk
about hotels and airbnb locations, althoughI have also stayed at hostels with my
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kids, just because hotels interview thatthey're like the most common thing, and
I don't like making the parents choose, you know, be like, if
you're doing a hotel, you canonly do hotel. I like highlighting the
benefits of each of them. Wedo both of them depending on the location.
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So moving on to my next question. You know, if there's one
piece of device you can give toany mom or family that is has its
and to travel because of their kids, what would it be. I wrote
it that because I didn't want toforget so I thought about it a long
time because there's always tips that Iwant to say, but I would say,
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only you know if this is somethingyou want to try, because there
are moms who just don't want todo it, then that's okay. But
the only no, the only wayto know for sure is if you actually
do it. So based on whatI said before, you may be scared.
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You may be listening to what otherpeople around you say, like don't
do it, that's crazy, likedon't where are you bringing your kids?
But if there's something inside of youthat's pulling you to it, quiet the
mind, listen to the heart,and then just go for it. You
will know for sure if this issomething for you unless you do it and
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until you do it, so thatwould be it, it said, and
I couldn't agree more. So It'stime to move on to Max's favorite segment
of the show, and that's therapid fire questions. Are you ready?
Yes, favorite dish in any countryyou have visited. I thought about it
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for a little bit, but Ihave to say, in Ecuador there's this
breakfast dish called Bologne the Kiss,so specifically so it's made out of cheese
and plantain, and it's my favoritething in the world. I would have
it for breakfast every single day.So I don't think I've tried anything else
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so far in the world that Iwould choose over it. Okay, high
praise. Favorite beverage in any countryyou have visited, alcoholic or otherwise alcoholic.
No, no, that I can'thave it. But in Spain there's
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so much alcohol, insane. Butlast time I went, I just couldn't
get enough of the beer with orangejuice, which is called at Clara.
It was just the perfect thing,maybe because we were traveling in summer,
but I just love it. Icould drink a lot of those, and
I kind of love the That's whatI thought you were going to say originally,
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but I had never heard anyone mentionedthe first one. So that's a
very original answer. It's good,good, good next place you plan on
visiting, and why I wish Iknew, just because right now I'm pregnant.
We don't have any like plan trips, but we would love to go
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not it's been asking to go toSoutheast Asia. She wants to see the
elephants. We went there when shewas in my belly. I was eight
weeks pregnant, and we always tellher like you could see everything to my
about it. So she always sayslike, I would love to go there
and see the elephants, So maybetell this Asia and that is going to
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be a very special trip when shegets to realize that dream. So I'm
excited for her. Most underrated cityor place you have been to? I
also thought about that for a while, and I think just for the underrated
part, I would say the lawyerof Lawyer Violet Lawyer Violey in France.
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I did not know about this place, and we discovered thanks to a relative
that we have. She lives inSpain and we were going to Spain and
she said, we need to goto this place and this all the France.
So we did. We rented acar and we rode tripped. Luca
was five months old, but wedid this. We rode trip through this
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real and it's beautiful. It's likefilled with castles and wine tasting. So
I would definitely say that area ofFrance really really. We enjoyed it a
lot, Okay, And the numberone place you'd like to visit with your
kids or without. Let me startby saying that there's no place in the
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world I would want to go withoutmy kids. So there's one thing and
then we really I would really loveto do a South America trip with them,
like just like the one we didand be like, we don't even
know how long this is gonna last, but we would want to go to
South America. I want to takeyou to every single country in South America.
(33:43):
So that's definitely something that I wouldlove to do with them. Awesome,
great answers. If our listeners wantto learn more about you and the
resources you were able to provide,where can they find you? Absolutely,
first, thank you so much forinviting me. I love that you are
so open to talk about this topiceven as nonparents, so I really really
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appreciate that. And you can findall of our crazy family adventures and more
family travel coaching at Monos viajdos onInstagram which by the way means traveler Monkeys
on Instagram, on TikTok as well, and we also have a website where
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I maintain a blog, and Monosviros dot com. So those are the
three main platforms where you can getall the juice. And if you would
like to learn more about us,you could do so by visiting our website
at www dot GTS podcast dot comon Instagram at Globetrotters podcast, on Twitter
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at globetrot pod. You can alsofind us on LinkedIn, Facebook, or
any streaming platform of your choice bysearching the Globetrotters podcasts. Editing on this
episode was done by our very ownanything of that all until next time, m
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