Postman Butters' Mailbag #02 | S27 Delayed, South Park vs Simpsons, Best South Park Games! - Goin’ Down To South Park

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hell yeah, postman delivery for you. Kick. Hey, everybody, welcome
to the June edition of The Postman Butter's mail Bag. Here,
I'm going down to South Park. I'm down to and
I'm guy. We're actually recorded this intro twice. We've already
recorded this mail bag. But as you will be well
aware when you listen to our full review, a full

(00:21):
episode of this this mail bag, the news that we
talk about is old now. It's old news. Oh, plans change,
It's just the way the world is these days. Everything
new is old again. So we talk about how the
show is supposed to be premiering in about a week's time,
July ninth, not not far away, just after a week. Well,
that's not happening anymore. It's now turning out there's going
to be premiere in July twenty three, bumped by about

(00:43):
a fortnite. Ye, yes, and should we Let's get into
why what happened here, because, as Trey and have said,
it's a shit show.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well yeah, they actually went public with this on Twitter,
also known as X.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Must be great having the ability to just call them out,
you know, yeah, you would never see the Simpsons doing
this to Fox. Never see the Simpsons creators doing this
to Disney, Tray and Matt. They don't care, and that
is calling a Spader space. It's very much their baby.
That's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I mean, I'm sure there are people at what I
like to call Simpson's HQ who are higher up in
the food chain, but it feels like there are. Of course,
you think of The Simpsons, you think of Matt graining
that those two are kind of synonymous, right, yeah, and
James L. Brooks and in those kinds Yeah, And of
course there are people who have been with the show
for a very long time. But when it comes to
something like South Park, Tray and Matter the creators and

(01:28):
they're still very very very hands on.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
They literally made the first episode correct.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yes, So when you get people like that going public
and saying we're not happy with this situation, like, oh,
this is coming straight from.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
The horse's mouth, this is this is unfiltered. Yeah, is
it them sort of covering their own ass as well
to make sure that they're not included in the shit
show as it people go, oh, Tray and are having
no part of this. This is they're getting screwed over
as well, just as much as weggeting screwed over look.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It could well be a bit of damage control, but honestly,
I think they're beyond that. I think they've I think
they've built up enough good will the time. Well we
touched on that in the mail Bank, don't we. How
have they remained cool thirty years on and the Simpsons
struggled to remain cool, but South Parks have that they
still feel the same way they did thirty years ago,
and it's because of reasons like this. Absolutely yeah, I
think I think a word I use when we talk

(02:14):
about Parker and Stone during those chats when we dive
deep and the mailbag is integrity. And I think that's
very much what they've got. And that's why this really
has a bit of impact. It's like, well man, it's
coming from the guys who literally make the show, literally
called the shots. If this has not been filtered through
PR departments and spin doctors or anything like that, it's

(02:35):
just a couple of guys were saying, we really like
making the show, we really like putting it out for people,
and we've got a whole bunch of suits who are
pouring over five hundred page contracts and basically delaying the
process of us making the show and you watching the show.
There's a dirty, great complicated roadblock in the middle of things.
We're not happy about it, so good on it for
going forward.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's actually pretty incredible that there's two men who are
getting like billion dollar deals almost right, still managed to
sort of come a was like underdogs. Yeah, how often
could could that happen? Yeah? You are hundreds of millions
of dollars, right, but they still feel like they're the
little man, you know, and you're getting screwed over by
the big man doing things like the Casabernita. Right. It

(03:13):
cost them forty million dollars, right, which is a lot
of money to them, probably not more than what they hoped,
but it's not going to be affecting them too much.
But they did it for the fans. They did it
for themselves, but they also did it because they want
people to be able to experience it as well. They
do these things that make you go, make you feel
like we're part of the team as well, absolutely doing
it for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I think I've actually used this phrase when we
when we open the mailband. But that phrase more money,
more problems is an actual thing, you know. The more
money you make in any circumstance or whatever invariably like, oh,
how do I.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hold on to it? How do I sort of maintain
this thing?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's like, this is the best case scenario of just
being fucking rich, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like,
well I can do whatever I want, no one can
tell we know, and actually there and they're using.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
It for good, that's it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, right, And they're not sort of being ostentatious with
them if they are splashing out a whole bunch of money,
as you said for Cassavanita, I'm throwing down like forty
mil to renovate the place.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Look all your respect.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is probably going to get me blacklisted from somewhere somewhere.
But I mean, it's not like the Jeff Bezos wedding,
you know, which everyone's going to like boom, we don't
wish you happiness. Yeah, it's probably a very nice day
for Jeff and Lauren. But and their guests, LEONARDA. Capra,
he was all like walking around with his is that
me gay? But you don't see them doing stuff like that,

(04:34):
So yeah, I think they build up a bit of
good will in that regard. They're just like it's not
like there are a couple of guys who won the lottery,
because clearly they're very creative people and they also clearly
pretty business savvy as well.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And don't even bother with social media person. Yeah, I know,
Trey's wife runs a social media as an Instagram account
where it's the family and he gets sort of he's
included in that, but it's not him posting selfies or anything. No.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, I mean it's not like check us out guys,
you know we were at the Catalina wine mixer or
something like that. No, no, dudes, they just now this
could be a very very very well constructed style. You know,
these guys could be eating baby panders. But but no,
they just come across like a couple of dudes who
worked hard, got lucky. But we're able to parlay that

(05:18):
success into a more success by being more creative and
backing themselves.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
The most inspirational people in show business I reckon. Oh
yeah yeah, between creators, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but having a lot of pride in what they
do and a lot of pride in sharing with people
who like it.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah. So let's seem to be the situation. So let's
delve into what exactly has happened, so they were meant to. Basically,
they think that their lawyers think that that Paramount is
dicking them over. Correct, Yeah, sort of. I mean the
Paramount want to hold onto whatever they can with south Park.
Well look and justifiably so, why wouldn't you. Yeah, and
they don't want Netflix to get it, and they don't

(05:54):
want well.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
If they do, they want to make sure that the
deal that they strike is advantageous more Paramount.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
That know, anybody else.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, that's business one I won isn't it. But
it seems like the guy who was trying to finesse
the deal we'd say Warner Brothers, Discovery or Netflix to
license out streaming rights to past episodes of south Park,
all the south Park Library episodes is trying to organize
the deal. So it's like, okay, yeah, but Paramount gets first.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Working in Paramount's favor, we get first look at the
new episodes and we get there exclusively for twelve months.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Or you want to sign a ten year deal, how
about we sign a five year deal?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
That way we can sort of renegotiate a little down
the line, maybe we can hold onto a bit more.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Eventually, we want security please.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, but it's essentially Paramount trying to cover their ars,
and who can blame them, because you know, the entertainment
landscape is just shifting under everybody's feet, and if you've
got a sure thing, if you've got an ace up
your sleeve, like Parent, like south Park is the Paramount,
and it's various sort of companies under it's under its umbrella,
like Comedy Central, which you know is the home of
South Park. Of course they're going to want to hold

(06:58):
on and they're going to want a cap. But the
guy doing it, he's not really running Paramount just yet
who and so he's sort of saying to these other companies,
how about we do it this way, how about we
do it this way? And yeah, Parkeringstone's lawyer apparently said not.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
We told you to do it that way though. Not cool, And.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Now Parker zones are chiming to say, yeah, really not cool.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, we've made these shows, we want the fans to
see them, and now they can't sit it for another
two weeks. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
So the merger is apparently then the sort of I
don't know all the details about.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
It, but it's just by Comedy Central. They probably could's
just buy it. But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, we've talked about this in other ways. As
I said, I think they've got the cash, the clout
in the infrastructure. They basically run things their own way.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
They could just release on their own website. Mate.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Of course, you know, they could set up a YouTube chair.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Look, I'm talking about the most basic way of doing it.
Set up a YouTube.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
You can literally do it that way, though, Yeah, you
do this now.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, it's like here's the library, subscribe and you get
that for nothing. But you know, here's the new season.
But you know, and if you pay for them, you
get them. Where's the money go It goes into YouTube spokeets.
Imagine a big goes of the park and zone.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Or they can just use South Park Studios, or they.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Can just South Yeah, there are many, many, many options.
So I'm not about to start cheerleading for like for
a big entertainment company that's probably still doing pretty well.
Of Course they're going to want to work in their
own interest. I understand that. But at the same time,
work with the people who are making the content that
you're putting out there. You know, don't dig them around,

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don't screw them over.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I think there's the fear of doing it yourself is
that if you put it out there, how many people,
how many average people are going to be willing to
forcat five dollars get access to new episodes when you
know as soon as they get released they're going to
be illegally streamed. Well, that's correct. I want that, as
we said before, security of a big major company saying
we'll pay you for the rights.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh yeah, absolutely. I guess it is talked about. The
piracy is really a thing that has taken a lot
of the entertainmentdustry out of the kneecaps. At the stage
of the game, no one really seems to talk about
it all that much.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I feel like a trainmat came out though, and said, guys,
try to stream it please. If I swat, the fans
will going yeah, okay, not all of them.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, but so many people have said they've got the
respect there. Oh yeah, so many people have said. I mean,
I'm talking about entertainment consumers. It's like, if you make
the process for me to get something or access something easy,
friction free, yes, I will certainly pay for it. And
I imagine that as you said, Parker and Stone have
built up enough good will, and I imagine they also, yeah,

(09:19):
probably fairly savvy about Okay, let's create a process where
it's like, okay, give us five bucks and you get
access to this or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
They do, like a monthly live stream of fans or something. Yeah, yeah,
why not? Why not exactly. But that's the reason we
did this record is new intros because you're about to
hear the whole we recorded a few days ago, which
is you miss him like old news. You messaged me,
and I went to message you, and I'm like, oh,
he's already messing me. I was. I read it and
I was like, oh shit, outdated. Thank goodness, we haven't
released it yet.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Indeed, so like they do on social mediaccasually or edited
too ad. Yes, so we've thrown in a bit of
new news. So when you hear a little old news
laiter down the line and trying to hate this too much.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, but I hope you enjoy the next edition of
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If you want to support us back, much like you
would support Trey and Matt I think we've had enough goodwill, right,
I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
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Speaker 1 (10:14):
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But for now, let's get into our Postman Butter's Episode
two mail bag. Oh, let's do it. It is now time
for Postman Butter's mail Bag number two. Here, I'm going
down to South Park. I'm Dando and I am guy Dane.
Have you seen this? Have you heard about this? I
heard about what? Well, we've got a few things to
talk about. I mean we've got some you could be too. Well,

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there's news stories, but there's also a lot of messages
that were filled up the mail bag. Yeah, we've got
plenty of news to talk about as well, well more
questions and news. We've got some news to talk about
in just a few moments. We've also got plenty of
questions that have been sent through, So thank you to
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They're doing all right, looking sharp. I'm feeling it right,
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Speaker 2 (11:09):
That concludes the mutual appreciation segment of the shirt.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's pretty much what we do every day.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh yeah, calling each other, giving up each other, little
affirmation litt ladder boy.

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Make yourself feel special, of course. But thank you to
everybody who has joined us on Patreon this month. You're
gonna be getting your monthly shout out speaking of people
who make us feel special. Yeah. Indeed, So if you
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cheesepoof tier, you get your one shout out. You gonna
get it on today's show, So stay tuned. Oh yeah,
all right, So, mister Davis, first news story we have

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for south Park, let's throw it out there. There's never
usually a great deal of south Park news to really
delve into. It's usually new episodes are coming out, or
if annoyed somebody or there's a legal dispute.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
And Okay, it's a little from column CEA this time around.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yes it is. Look, there's a lot of legal ease.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
To dive into with this one, but I'm gonna give
what is called the gist. South Park Digital Studios and
entertainment company Paramount have a deal for south Park streaming right, Yes, yes,
and it's worth something like nine hundred million dollars. And
the deal with Paramount and South Park is in place
for two more years. But South Park Studios is shopping

(12:18):
around to various other outlets to sell them the streaming
rights and apparently make more money, make a little bit
more money because they keep making south Park episodes and
people like to keep watching it. So Netflix is interest,
apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is interested. But Paramount is apparently
trying to influence these other bidders to take a deal

(12:40):
that would benefit Paramount sabotaging to some degree. I mean,
apparently they are speaking to Warner Brothers about allowing Paramount
a twelve month window for new episodes, so before existing
episodes would go to whoever wins the deal, whoever makes
the deal with South Park Studios, but Paramount would get

(13:00):
did on whatever new stuff is out there also, you know,
like would you sign a five year contract rather than ten,
which is disadvantage is disadvantageous to south Park and Parker
and Stone, Ok long term bag well indeed, Yeah, Now
to complicate matters again, sorry, a bit of legal eges
in here. But Paramount currently is in merger mode with
the company called sky Dance. That's the organization behind the
Mission Impossible movies, behind Top Gun Maverick and a guy

(13:23):
named Jeff Shell, who will run Paramount if this merger
goes through, is the one apparently trying to finest these
deals in Paramount's favor.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So all this has been done without Matt and Trey
being told about it. That's they found out.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, and yeah, their lawyer has been on the case.
He has been scaring through documents and going something's not
quite on the up and up here. Yeah, Paramounts can't
do this and yeah until the merger occurs. So basically
there's a lot of money involved. So Netflix is another one.
I messed Netflix. There's a lot of money involved. Paramount
is trying to keep as much of it as possible.

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If South Park signs a license can deal with Warner
Brothers or with Netflix, Trey Matt not having that.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
This must be just US only because it's available on
Paramount Plus here, but I think in the States it
must've be pair.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
The deal is still in place for another two years.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, but in the States though, they don't get Paramount Plus.
South Park isn't on Paramount Plus. It's on the South
Park Studios. Oh yeah, yeah so but.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, essentially there's a legal kafuffles going on with how
you can watch South Park on your streaming services.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah. So I don't think it's able to impact impact
US here in Australia, but obviously fans in the US. Yeah,
I mean, good on Tray and Matt, Like, don't get
screwed over. These guys have all the money in the world.
Like I'm talking not train mate, they do have all
the money in the world. But like, don't let these
suits dick you around. They're tridiculously not granted the little man,
but in this situation, now the little man, and don't
let them push you around. No, no, they they.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Can't make the deal without what's in the deal, and
that's episodes of South Park. That's your creative IP.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, train Mak and just go nah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So yeah, to quote a well known song, get up,
Stand up, Stand up for your.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Rights, because they Yeah, there's two years remaining on the
nine hundred million dollar deal. That's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, it was initially signed for five hundred and fifty
million dollars, which was a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Still, that's that's why you're getting Cassibernita being redone for
forty million. Yeah, and why they're.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Just sort of brushing off their shoulders like, Okay, it's
another thirty mil.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Should nicola that? And Nicola could not believe how bad
of a state the place was in. But you know,
her takeaway was from that, she goes, guys are on
south Park seem like cool guys. I'm like, you think
you think she goes, you know, I just thought that
would have been like little smart asses. She goes. They
just seem like really nice, down to earth, nice people,
like yes, yeah, no, yes, that's the problem. South Park

(15:36):
is run by people who.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Are just genuinely good people, yeah, who exercise their less
savory thoughts and feelings through their show. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but no genuinely cool nice dudes. Yeah, And we're not
just seeing that.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
The end of the Cassi Beernita documentary is really sad
where Trey goes. I've realized I can't be here because
I am such an attachment to the show where everyone
wants a photo, and it's like you're supposed to be
coming for the castab experience in Trey Parker experience. It's
like I walked around I sort of went, oh, I've
made this is my baby, but now I've got to
leave it behind. I can't beat you anymore. Only still

(16:10):
has his fingerprints all over it. But imagine going to
Castebernina and seeing Trey Parker's running around. Oh my god,
would you ask for a photo? I don't think, I know,
I just give the nod. I would I would just
wave yeah, or a fist pump or something like that.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't want a photo. Yeah, at the
very he would appreciate it. He might even offer a
photo if you did that.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, at the very most. I mean, look, if you
can see that he's either busy, yeah, he's not involved
with other people or something like that. It just sort
of walked Thanks for everything, man. Yeah, that's essentially it.
Because we went out to dinner at the new Sushi place.
Hi sushi here down the road on Friday night, and
I'm really good and sushi trained and everything. The kids
love the concept of taking the sushi off and eating it.

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And there were a couple.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Of a couple of the Geelong Cats players in there
eating on a little on the other side of the booth,
and Ali of course was just like in aways, Oh
my god, my mum said, did you go say hello
to him? And I was like have their dinner, like,
let's not do that, and Alliott and I think and
one of them, tom Akins, right, and he saw that
Alliot was looking at him and he goes that You're

(17:12):
like waved to him, and it's just like, oh my god,
that's all Ali you needed, you know, like he in
the moment he knew, okay, this kid is looking at me.
It was just so nice. Need to acknowledge Ali and
go sorry, buddy, like don't come by with me for dinner,
but like, I see your mate, good on you, tom
Tomakins waved to me. I'm like, that's probably better than
to walk up saying I love you. Tom Akins is
like tom Akins acknowledged be yeah, and look, I don't

(17:33):
know tom Akins. I will wager that he would not
do this, But you run at the very slight risk
of like kidder meeting I'm trying to eat. As we
just said in our most recent episode of Full Finger Discount. Yes,
so yeah, I don't think tom Akins or any Cat's
player would do that because they're all dudes, they're all lords.
But no, it was a very very boss move of
mister Atkins to just, you know, the kid keeps looking

(17:54):
at me, I'll wave to him. All he need to do,
need to do. So that was very nice. But yeah,
sounds like this, I'm not sure there's going to impact
the future season. It's two more years on the deal,
isn't it? So this two more years in the current deal.
But they're saying they're trying to sabotage the deal going forward,
so let's hope that train make the deal sabotage's influence. Yeah,
which they really shouldn't need to be doing, which could

(18:15):
be slightly seen as sabotage. Sure, one man's sabotage is
another man's. But we also had a I found a
story from a little while ago. It's Pam Brady. Indeed Brady,
it was a It was a clickbait headline? What's the
clickbait headline? Can you remember? Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It was basically, oh, the misogynistic joke that South Park
Rider regrets or something along that part.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Joke that still haunts the show's right, Oh my god,
even to be more careful, didn't say who, didn't say
what what it was. And I watched it, looked at it.
I was like, okay, okay, look, I've click I've worked.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
At a sub ed and I'm the kind of person
who would create headlines like that. Now, you know, the
best part of your job when you're doing that is
kind of like coming out with a fun pun or
something along those lines. But the news cycling system is
the way it is. You really need to get eyes
on your story and if you can do it an inflammatory,
inflammatory manner, what you know, throwing in buzzwords like that,

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and then you read the story and.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Not exactly like that at all.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Essentially, if well, if it believes, which ties into what
the joke is actually talking about. Yeah, this is a
former South Park riter, Pam Brady look an integral part
of the early success of the show. Absolutely. This was
back in March. He talked about a misogynistic frat boy quote,
a joke given to mister Garrison in the South Park

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movie Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
The line is, I don't trust anything that bleeds for
five days it doesn't die and doesn't die. Yeah, now
it's actually it's.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Pretty old line. It's pretty old jokes.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
It was actually used a couple of years early in
another movie called In the Company of Men starring aparent Eka.
And look, it's usually voiced by someone who is quite misogynistic.
It's certainly not meant. I mean it's a laugh line.
I mean it's it's a quote unquote joke, but it's
usually revealing that the person telling that joke is somewhat

(20:08):
of unsavory characters.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
We say sound Bud does do that a lot. I
wouldn't say they hide behind cartmen, but they get a
lot of stuff that is really not acceptable, but they
have cartman say it.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I've said this many times about many sitcoms. You or
you generally have the character who is near the heel,
you need the heel. They will say the thing, Oh
my god, I can't believe they said that. But you
give yourself an escape hatch by putting it in the
mouth of the character.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You're not supposed to like, you don't want to just
be there just so they can do that though, No, no,
it's got to be something more to them.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
But in very their character usually becomes the breakout favorite.
So Pam said something about, oh, look, yeah, I thought
it was pretty misogynousy. But at the same time, we're
reclaiming it, you know, like, well, like the way the
gay community would reclaim the word queer, which used to
be sort of regarded as a slur, and now it
is generally now regarded.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
As like, well, it's part of the lg T. You
I a plus plus plus plus. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I don't think Pam Brady is sort of saying, oh
my god, I'm so ashamed of all the jokes we
told in the early two thousands on South Park. She
never really alludes to that in the body of the
of the conversation. It's more about, you do have to
be a little more careful these days. Comedy has evolved.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, the world's evolved. The world's evolved. Absolutely. I think
people's tolerance has evolved as well. People aren't as tolerant
for jokes or No. I think actually, I think that's
not the right way of saying, I think people are
more understanding of the impact that jokes can have on
other people.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, there's a little more sensitivity around, and often that's
used in the derogatory Sin's like people are too sensitive.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's because I think, she says, maybe it's in this one,
maybe something else. I don't want to make jakes jokes
that are going to upset people.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, absolutely, she does say that. She also points out
as like, like there's one gag that we used in
the two thousands. She says, I'm not going to say
what it was, but it was just someone you wouldn't
want to represent on a show. Now, I'm I'm gonna
speculate that that's coming versus Nambler. Maybe, yeah, yeah, I
mean because that they sort of put job molesters and

(22:10):
a spotlight front and center and played it for labs.
I thought it did it as quote unquote sensitively as
you could, while you know, using this kind of material
for humor.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But because you can't just pretend that that doesn't happen.
Oh no, no, no no, but putting the actual organization
Nambler in itself in the spotlight, there would have been
people that had had never heard of Nambler had because yeah, absolutely.
I thought was interesting from the article was her pointing
out that the writer's room has always been fifty fifty
split women and men. Yeah. I couldn't believe that.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well that's great, as we said, Parkromstone, you know, yeah,
barely sort of on the ball, dude, like the Simpsons
writers room, nothing like that. Yeah, but it makes a
bunch of sense as well. I think panpointed out was like, well,
you know, women are fifty fifty one the center of
the population, why not an equal representation. You're probably banding
it to a wider range, broader range, better range of

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jokes as a result.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Absolutely, that's it. Yeah, jokes that are more. Yeah, jokes
are feeling they have been written by the woman, and
I think that also gives them not the out. But
also it means that a woman right working at the
South Park can feel safe. They're not feeling like they're
the only one in the writers are. Oh yeah, it's
a fifty fifty split. We're all here, we're all equal,
we're all throwing ideas at the table, And it means
they can make fun of women and they can make

(23:27):
fun of men, and it's all equals. It's women and
men writing this show absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Now, yeah, the gist of this, I mean, yeah, Pambrady
is saying that comedy taste is constantly shifting and evolving,
and that's true. I mean, the pendulum is always swinging
back and forth. And I imagine there's going to come
a time, even now in twenty twenty five, when you
know the next generation is going to go. You guys
are squares, okay, and where we don't care what shocks
or offend you, We're gonna tell these shows. It'll, yeah,

(23:52):
be only a matter of time before like the new
version of American Pie comes out. I don't I don't
necessarily mean like American Pie.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I mean that kind of movie. It's like super Bad
was like the next version of American Player does it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And that's fairly launching and fairly riscay, but also pretty sensitive.
So you know, the next iteration of that will have
jokes like you know, wow, can't believe they said that,
but also maybe a deeper understanding of character and all
that kind of stuff might take it on. Humor has
always been that not much is for everybody, and everybody
is going to find something offensive. So if you're a comedian.

(24:25):
I think you make any joke you're like, provided you're
willing to stand by it. Unless everyone's going to be
offended by something, and someone's probably going to be offended by.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Something that's like hate crime based or something like that, well.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Then no, you better be able to back it up
and say, well, when I say this, I mean this.
If you took it that way, I'm sorry, but this
is how I meant it.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And there is a responsibility though on the comedian to
say it in a way and make a joke that's
not just You can't just go out there and say, oh,
if you don't get it, I'm sorry, this is what
I'm This is I know what I've said. This incredibly
racist and incredibly insensitive. That's not what I meant. Though.
If you took it that way, that's your fault. That's
that's on you. I think the cop out of i'm
sorry if you were offended by it, I never buy
into that. It's your responsibility to do it. Have a

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joke that isn't going to have that effect.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I get where you're coming from, and look, there are
holy there are certainly people out there who will take
what a comedian says as kind of gospel as opposed
to Oh look, I am exaggerating the way I feel
all the way the wider community feels for comic effect.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
What I'm getting at is more if your comedy is
going to incite somebody to be hate field. I always
bring up Kevin Bloody Wilson, right, and that's a very
of its time humor. But that humor incites a demographic
of the community to think it's okay to behave and
do that outside of that room. So in the confides
of his stage show, yeah, fine, but people take that

(25:45):
and apply to their real lives. And that's the way
I see the negative of it. You can't that humor
leaves the room and then it has an impact on society.
He doesn't care. He's just getting paid to be on
stage and say these racist things and these horrible things.
Fine for being a show. But people in community hear
him saying it, go, well, if he can say it,
then I can say it. They great the community, and
that's where fights start. I get the feeling they will
probably all of your mind to say that anyway. I exactly,

(26:08):
But because he has the platform to do it, and
because he's on stage, that still gives them the opinion
to go that's what. He's still up there doing it,
so I'm still allowed to do it. That's a very
valid point. You're right, if there's someone getting paid to
do it, then why can't I do it? If he
came out and said, you know what, these are probably
not Look, I made a career offer this. They're pretty insensitive.

(26:28):
But hey, look, let's just make sure no this not
just none of this leaves the room. But hey, we're
all having a bit of fun here. What I'm saying
is awful, a bit of laughs. Let's not go anywhere.
He gets up on stage and goes if you don't
like it, get the fuck out. Yeah. No, I'm not
saying that a comedian doesn't have a responsibility. But I
don't know that. That really blew me away, that that show,
the Kevin body WILLSMA. I just could not believe I
was in this room. I'm going it's fine to laugh,
but like you guys are just really racists. And I

(26:52):
felt uncomfortable, and I there's not many times where I
felt sick to my stomach, and I felt sick to
my stuff and to the point where I felt like
if I up and left. I felt I was fearful
for my safety. I thought I was surrounded by a
bunch of people who would, okay, take that notion of oh,
he's leaving, he's a soft cock. I'm going to get
him for it. It felt like he was inciting that mentality.

(27:13):
I don't. I think as a comedian you need to
be better than that. I get where you're coming from. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm of the mind that, yeah, if you don't agree
with what being said or what you said what you
heard offends you, by all means, let people know that.
We've got various means to do that now via social
media platforms, podcasts, whatever. But also, yeah, just don't endorse
their work by paying for it, or yeah, just let
people know. It's like, this is not my bag. And
here's why.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
What do you do to the people who then hear
and believe it and then and apply it to their
life and say it to you every day because he
said it on stage. How do you ignore that when
it's happening to you in your day to day life.
You say, you get to ignore the comedian because you
can turn the show off, but you can't turn off
real life.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I get where you're coming from and yeah, I'm sorry,
I don't have an answer for that.

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(28:38):
headline met at saying I'm ashamed by this joke, that's
the headline.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
It felt like she had a longer conversation, maybe about
her the entirety of a career or a career with
South Park, and certain bits were because as we said,
this was three months ago. I think certain bits were
taken out and put into the context of well, yeah,
we said some pretty uh, some pretty rude stuff back
in the day. Don't think we'd do that now. And yeah,

(29:02):
I think that's that's basically it. As you mentioned earlier,
she said, we don't want to do stuff that just
makes people feel bad.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well, South Park always has and I have a reason
for doing it though, don't they just they never say
things that are usually just to offend somebody. They say
it and it's offensive, but then there's usually there's a
reason for them doing it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Under everything has a point, yeah, or yeah, it's in
service of a larger message.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, And we always say that people just read the headlines. Obviously,
Cartman pretends to be differently able to be in the
Special Olympics, and you see the headline, you go, that's
why I don't watch South Park. It's like, but watch it.
He's the bad guy. They're trying to say, this is
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got plenty of questions coming through for the mail bag
Southparkmailbag at gmail dot com. Let's go with this one.
This seems sort of on that topic. In a quote unquote,
this one comes from Justin. Justin says, in a quote
unquote woke TV landscape donated by decision makers who seem
to prefer quantity over quality. How do you think Trayam
have a maintained a sense of control over their show

(31:15):
and be maintained the cool factor that brought them to
the table in the first place. So, yeah, twenty seven
years later, how are they still able to sort of Well,
it's been clever on their part to make sure, is
it because they are the voice actors, They're the ones
They've got their thinger prints it everywhere. They're not just
creating it, they are South Park.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
It feels very much like a cottage industry. Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's put together very quickly. It seemingly done
by a small, close knit group of creative individuals. So yeah,
I think that's a lot to it. Honestly, I think
the answer can be found in a very wise concept
called well you can feel feel free to bleep this out.
It's either f you money or fuck you money. Yeah,
I mean so yeah, you mean you've got a certain

(31:54):
degree of economic freedom. You've got x amount of the
bank you can say f you to anytime anyone wants
something from you that you don't want to give them,
and you know, like what we're doing or how we're
doing it else and all manner of freedom. And along
along side that is the artistic cred that Parker and

(32:15):
Stone already have. I mean, their projects don't have a
million fingerprints on them, and I think that's why people
keep coming back for more. They realize it feels like
you're watching a production by them. Does this is a
Trap and Trat Okay, that's that's the brand. Yeah, this
is the Tray and Matt show. It doesn't feel like
it's like or we mentioned Paramount before or Comedy Center

(32:39):
or anything that's like, oh, this doesn't feel like it
was created in a lab somewhere and it's hitting all
the certain beats and data points that it needs to
be to be a comedy, sensations like, No, these are
guys who are putting together something with what do you
call that paper?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, not paper mache, the cuts, Yeah, I mean that
what had be.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, there's an actual name for the paper that I've forgot,
but yeah, they were basically handmaking it. Yeah, and look,
of course the techniques of a bold over time. Yeah,
but this but the spirit of it remains the same.
I disappeared down a little bit of a YouTube rabbit
hole last night because I know, I guess the algorithm
heard me, and it was starting to throw up trailers

(33:24):
and snippets and video essays about various shows that emerged
in the wake of South Park and say Family Guy
or whatever sort of outrageous animated comedies. And the vast,
vast majority of them, and there's a fair few of
them are just.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Got all no good. They're so terrible. It was there
Will put it mentioned earlier. They are offensive and out
there for the sake of it.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh, yeah, absolutely, But there's no integrity. Yeah, south Park
doesn't have that, even you know, in its most sort
of outrageous extremes. It feels like, oh no, this has
a strong foundation of the makers morality and ethics and
ideas about the world. So yeah, I think that's I

(34:05):
think that's why it remains quite unquote cool. And I
haven't relied on the south Park factor either. It's the
Tray and Matt factor, which they brought to South Park.
But they've gone off and they've done the Book of Mormon,
They've done Team America, they've done all these other films
as well. It shows that they're not just a one
trick pony either, which is how they've managed to maintain
the success and also the credit because I think for me,

(34:28):
the big one was Book of Mormon. I think the
Book of Mormon really opened people's eyes who might have
seen the South Park guys as just these dumb, idiotic,
offensive men making this cartoon, and they've gone, oh, this
is a highly successful, worldwide, multimillion dollar stage show that's
actually incredible. Nicola was blind away. She could not believe

(34:48):
the guys.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
She goes the guys that made South Park, and it
was after the Book of Mormon because she just booked
tickets for the Book of Mormon on the West End
in the UK, because everyone was talking about it, and
I'm like, you realize that that's the guys that made
south She you seriously, Yes, yeah, And I think it
opened everyone's eye, not everyone's, but a lot of people's eyes, going, oh,
these guys they have it. Oh yeah, these guys know
what they're doing, and.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
They're getting co signed by legitimate entertainment industry legends, musical
theater legends. Stephen sometimes said I want to work with
you guys. Stephen Toimes sometimes kind of like the b
on and end all of American musical theater in the
twentieth century. For them, for him to say, you guys
have got the juice, it's kind of like, well, from
your lips to God's ears. So no, they've earned it,

(35:31):
They've earned their credibility.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And in their earlier days, when South Park boomed, they
were a bit of but you are, you know, going
to that, just trying to screw the establishment, so, you know,
wearing the dresses to the oscars. Yeah, that kind of thing, right,
But we've seen them mature over the years. You watch
them now and you go, these are just two middle
aged men who are just really good at what they do.

(35:54):
They have all the best of intentions, they've never sold out,
despite the amount of money they've made. It's never really
felt like Trains sold out, has it? No? No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
And I think the other thing is that keeps people
interested is the rapid turnaround time. They're able to relevancy
and they're able to talk about things that are in
the zeitgeist before. It's because you know, our attention spans
are so shortened these days. You know, even though like
a three week turnaround time was kind of like, that's

(36:24):
so two thousand and eight. Yeah, yeah, that's actually a
good point. So the way they made the show benefited
them being relevant in nineteen eighty seven and onwards. But
as you were saying, in today's generation, with the attention
spans being like this, look the TikTok generation, it's actually
more beneficial for them now to be making the show
the way they make it. Yeah, because as you were saying, like,
anything that happened last week, it's like no one's talking

(36:44):
about it anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
When we're talking about this now. The whole world now
works by trends. Everything's a trend. Because Elliott watched Minecraft
finally thank god, I didn't like it, but I'm watching
this going this is a movie that's made for the
screen generation. Sure, it's just loud sounds, Jack Black is
up here, the entire movie things and the chicken Jockey thing, right,

(37:06):
No one's talking about that anymore. But that was just
it was a trend. It's just what's trending this week.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Sure, I made a billion dollars and now it's out.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's right. Yeah, But I think a lot of that
billion dollars for Minecraft came because of the trend of
the Chicken Jockey. So many people went to that film.
Obviously it's Minecraft is going to be successful anyway. But
I'm just so glad. Elliot was just going, this is
no good. But yeah, south Bank, I think they've maintained
that level of credibility because they haven't just relied on
being offensive south Park. They've done other things as well,

(37:34):
and they've just they've never they've never changed. They've stuck
to who they are. You've mentioned before about how you're
going to back yourself up. They have never faulted, have they.
This is who we are, this is what we do,
and you will pay us money to make it, and
people always pay them money to make it, and they
keep making it. Thank god. They do right. Next question here,
do you think Family Guys? Sorry, this one's from Matt. Matt,

(37:58):
I'll say, Matt f Do you think Family Guy exists
because of South Park or the Simpsons. I think it's
a bit of both.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think it is just because of South Park and
the Simpsons. It's like, yeah, I think Family Guys essentially,
what if we did a traditional animated family sitcom dot
dot dot but with attitude.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, so that's the end. That's the chocolate. Your peanut
butter now, yeah, a bit better than a jelly the
ready which comes to you.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
From well that that whole too, great taste, that tastes
great together. I think started with peanut butter and chocolate
for some reason. I think that's generally chocolate. I think
so peanut butter and chocolate. Who puts chocolate?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
What do you mean the teller could be the teller?
Feel free to google it and chocolate? Well I've never
heard that one.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Okay, yeah, anyway, but yeah, I poke fund it Family
Guy a bit. But I mean, okay, it's props because
it it really goes for it. Whether it's joke density,
it's not necessary, it's.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's made for the TikTok generation.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's fast for yeah, and like a lot of TV is,
and I think it's aware of that.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I've said this time and time again. My my comparison
is Family Guy is you junk that you get on
a Friday night? And The Simpsons is you're rosemerely having
a Sunday. It's good.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's good way putting it absolutely would make South Park
maybe like a gourmet burger.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
South Park is Yeah, it's the middle ground, isn't it.
It is?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, I would say, yeah, so yeah. And Family Guy
for all the good parts of it, it's empty calories.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I'm honestly surprised it's lasts as long as it has.
I am, and I'm not. I mean, people just it's
been on for so long now where I feel like
people just like it being there. It's it's disposable, is
what it is. I've never watched a modern Family Guy.
I'm just really wish I should probably watch a modern
Family Guy and just see are they still doing the
same shtick? How do they talk about current topics, what's

(39:38):
going on? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
So if you're a Family Guy fan, yeah, by all means,
let us know, because we often said, oh, our favorite
Simpsons episode is this, or a favorite south Back episode
is that. If you're a Family Guy fan, let us
know what your favorite episode is, because I'm not well
versed enough in the show to say, oh, yeah, that
one's the one that people talk about when they talk
about Family Guy.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So wonder a Family Guy could be perceived as sort
of like the gateway to South Park from being Simpsons.
So you have Simpsons and you might not be really
old enough to really watch South Park yet because there's
some of the stuff they talk about and whatever. But
Family Guys that little balance of both, so it's like
transitioning you to South Park.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I don't know, I think in terms of its tone
and it's kind of cessiness. I think, you know, Family
Park in South Park are kind of Family Guy in
South Park again with sort of a portmanteau and things.
But Daily Park and South Guy, Oh my good, horrible creation.
I'd say they're on the right of the same level
of sort of sassiness and irreverence. But for my Family Guy,

(40:37):
it lacks the heart of the Simpsons, that lacked the ball.
It likes the story, the storytelling mine and there's that
as well.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, as well.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Here's the example that I wrote down a bad family
guys like the kid on the Playground who riffs on
popular culture recycling lines and bits, and the hit rate
with actual good original gags it's like maybe twenty percent.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, so they just have to laugh because they kept
making jokes, are using, and they're diverting, and they're kind
of pointless in the end.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound like I'm sledging South.
I'm fled sledging Family Guy too much, but that's what
it reminds me. I was like, yeah, yeah, you get
one a good one off every once in a while,
but yeah, I wouldn't call you a comedy genius or
anything like that. I mean, I've got I've got a
lot of time for Seth McFarland. It was really he's
a worker, absolutely, and yeah, I mean you got with

(41:25):
my the hustle and you've got with my his devotion
to his craft.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So I was in my early to mid teens when
Family Guy really became a thing, and it felt cool,
it felt really fresh. At the time. It felt like
this is the Simpsons, so it felt the South part
Simpson visits. But that's what it felt the rawchy Simpsons.
That's why I used to compare it. But I think
we just I'm not sure why it just dropped off,
but we just sort of got over it really fast.
And I think, as you were saying, it's like, it's
like junk food. If you eat too much junk food,

(41:52):
you get sick of the junk food. Absolutely, there was
nothing making his comeback. It's like, yeah, we're just getting gags. Look,
I'm just a bit bored this now it need something different.
Absolutely yeah, and just felt like they were just churning
out the same style of joke. You mean, that's bad,
that kind of thing. So I think after a while
it just didn't feel cool a him. I'm not sure
what that we outgrew Family Guy. I have no idea,

(42:12):
but I kids discovering Family Guy. Who watches Family Guy? Now,
I have no idea. Yeah, his family guys that Matt,
Yeah maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
But not apologies if we're sort of shitting all over
your favorite name.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Maybe yes, maybe he does like Family Guy. Who knows? Yeah,
but but Family Guy is a show that yeah, I've
just I've watched I look at it on Disney plast
Stead's like new episodes. Of Family Guy and I go, okay,
the s Yeah, well, we sometimes poke fun at the
entertainment industry or whatever. I don't think it's entirely inhabited
by dumb, at tasteless people. I think they're looking at

(42:44):
the numbers and they're looking at people are still watching this.
We'll still making it, will still keep making it. We'll
still pay Seth McFarland to yeah, keep trotting out that
that property. It could also be a case of I
grew up with the Simpsons, right, so the Simpsons for me,
I'm on New Simpsons. That's cool. There is a generation
who didn't grow up with the Simpsons. They grew up
with Family Guy. Sure, maybe they look Family Guy the

(43:06):
same way I look at Simpsons, and that's.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Why as something of a security blanket.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And they get their kids and go, this is what
I watched when I was a kid. Maybe I wouldn't
getting little kids watch Faily Guy. Probably, But you know
every show has this. We've said Itchy and Scratchy and
the Simpsons. I'll watch the Simpsons and go, I'm not
sure a couple of watching this. But that's the whole
point of the joke. I get that's the joke, but
still I don't really know, Holly, that four year old
is really quite ready for that yet. So every show
has this thing, has this moment expec I think that
something has come up in these conversations. You don't just

(43:32):
swallow your entertainment blindly think about it. But we've had
so many people right in to the podcast and even
the reviews on Apple and whatnot saying I love that
these guys don't just dismiss the teen era because it's
the teen era and not the Golden Era, because these
are the episodes that I grew up with, and these
the episodes that I have nostalgia for sure, So well,
we may not necessarily like them or endorse them anything

(43:53):
like that, but yeah, we'll certainly make an EPPT to go.
I see what they were going for here. Hey, good
gag in there.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Even if this whole episode doesn't quite work, they still
hit the bulls eye once or twice.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yes, all right, next question here, this one comes from Leslie.
Was like that name Leslie? Okay, which Simpson's character do
you think would best transition into south Park universe into
the south Park universe and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, that's a tough one, because I mean, both shows
have done such a great job over a very long
time of creating these very unique communities and these people
in them, and it's so different.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I think south Park could use a Mo the Bartender
style kind of guy. Was much choice, I said, mow
and Otto because yeah, yeah, because true yeah, missus Crabtree. Yeah,
because south Park is for all its heart and soul
and it has those sens in but it's also kind
of dirt bag, and I think mow and Otto about
his dirt bag as the Simpsons gets so, I think

(44:51):
they'd be the natural transfer over. But I also think
that because Chef gets replaced eventually, that could have been
a fun little transition of instead of going to Chef
for advice, they go to Otto the bust over for
us because that thing going to score us every day,
so of course they're going to see him. Sure, yea,
and the kids used to go to Otto for advice
in the early years of the Simptons as well. Makes
a bunch of sense. Wasn't great advice, but yeah, that

(45:13):
was a good choice. I like that one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So, but what do you think about a south Park
character going to.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Spring into Springfield? Man? Who do you have?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I only had a couple. I mean I think sort
of the naivete of Butters.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Could work in that Millhouse feels superior to Butters. Yeah yeah,
or you know, he.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Sort of becomes a running running buddy for for Rolf
Wigan or something along.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
That Millhouse is like I don't need you anymore, Bart
because I've got Butters now, yes, I'm now you. Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Ladder of what's for food chain? Yeah, it's kind of
we've flipped the script on that one.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
The sheer be of like big Al I think could
work in Springfield as well, maybe.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Not as a recurring character. And I think you'd have
to re align and well out a great character. You'd
adjust him a little bit. Work Garrison wouldn't work, would he? No,
mister slaves two on the Garrison possibly mister Mackie. Oh yeah,
And that's a good one. That's a good idea. Because

(46:12):
do we have a school cancel at Springfield? Matter that
we do? Not? Really? No, I means are bad.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I'm kind yeah, I guess when there was counseling that
needed to happen, and at Springfield Elementary, they usually brought
in doctor Marvin Monroe, didn't they or.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Not into Springfield? I mentioned doctor Richard Pryor was his name? Yeah,
the prior he was like the school therapist or whatever.
It was a Jay Lauren Prior, not Richard Prior. The
community does say Richard Pryce. Sorry, Yeah, that's a really weird.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, but I think it's, like I said, it's a
tough one because, yeah, these two shows have got very
different styles, different tones, and they've over such a long
period have built up, yeah, their own worlds. So yeah,
to swap one over to another, it's a tough call,
but they are the ones that I'd certainly go with.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
It'd be interesting to see a Jimmy or Timmy esque
style character in the Simpsons universe and see how they
would handle it, yeah, because they've got like their roughh wiggams, right,
But to have someone who is actually differently abled. Do
we have that in the Simpsons We still stop, to
the best of my recollection, that would have been It's
actually quite sad that that level of representation didn't exist

(47:23):
in the Golden era. It would have been nice. True. Yeah,
And so South Park, Tray and Matt, for all their faults,
they are so progressive mate, oh very much. So. I
know people see the Timmy and Jimmy characters on the
level of just seeing the characters and see the way
they're acting, the way they speak, and they think they
make their mocking them. That's not what they do. They
are offering representation to a level of community that Simpsons

(47:43):
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All right, This one here is from Jennifer. Why do
you think people are still excited for new South Park
episodes after almost thirty years but so many people hate
on new Simpsons will be kind of touched on that earlier.

(48:27):
Why do people still clamor for new south Park, but
seem to dismiss new Simpsons. We mentioned earlier, Trey and
Matt never budged on who they were and what they deliver.
The Simpsons evolved over time, south Park has also evolved
over time, but the fabric of the show still feels
the same.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
South Park really feels like it had to reinvent itself,
which is different from evolving. Something the South The Simpsons
can give off sometimes is a feeling of needing.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
To keep up with what's new. Yep, it's true.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, even though you know, the production process sort of
takes a while imagined earlier, South Park's got their quick turnaround.
It can address events and transormost as they occur. So
you know, you read or see what's happening online or
in the world, and South Park will have a take
on that. So yeah, I think that's kind of why
it's exciting. Yeah, I mean, you hear about a Simpsons
episode that's coming up, but it's like, hey, we've got

(49:17):
so and so guest stars. Sorry to keep using the
phrase two thousand and late, but it's kind of like
we're kind of over Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Now they're a victim of their production schedule entire But
also I think the Simpsons tries to rely a lot
more on longevity of things, right they do have, and
that's where the Simpsons faults because in their earlier years
it never felt about trying to be topical really to it.
It was more just no, it was classical stories about
a town and the people in it, like a forever theme.

(49:46):
I think that's always going to the world evergreen to yeah, yeah, exactly,
there you go, right, and so, but once they started
trying to be sort of topical and what the kids
are talking about, it's like, yeah, but by the time
this episode is out, it doesn't feel cool anymore. South
Park doesn't have that problem, because that can feel cool
at the time, The Simpsons didn't feel like the Simpsons anymore.
It felt like it really shifted from what it was,
and South Pack has never really felt that way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Now, to the best of my understanding, it feels like
the ship is starting to write itself a little bit
with recent episodes. Certainly you've talked about how you know,
recent episodes are of the Simpsons are feeling like they're
getting back to that vibe or they're trying to recapture
that vibe.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
More than previous seasons.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, so hopefully they can do that. But yeah, the
reason that people are excited for South Park is because
it's keeps its finger on the pulse and it also
has remained true to itself in doing that. It doesn't
feel like it's trying on you know, this year's cool jacket.
It's like, well, you know, we're a white T shirt
and a good Levi's dnim jacket that's evergreen, that works.
Forever we are what we are, will evolve, will try

(50:46):
a few new things, but yeah, we're not necessarily We're
not trying to be this year's model.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
With the Simpsons too, I think they maybe they're trying
to They try to write a show that the kids
will enjoy, right, South Pack has ever been that way.
So that's why Simpsons has evolved so much over the years,
because kids have changed. That's true, society has changed, right,
So they're trying to appeal There is a generation of
kids out there that like modern Simpsons because it's written
for them. Yeah, absolutely, I don't like it. I'm getting

(51:10):
older now, right, I'm only thirty six, But I watched
it going I can acknowledge that this isn't for me, right,
this is for younger kids. I I'm just in that
point using slang, making references covering issues like whethers where
South Park has never really been for kids. They've never
said what we're for kids? They I wouldn't say they
write a show for themselves, but they kind of do.
They After the first season, they basically try to filter

(51:33):
at anyone who was just liking South Park for the
fact that they were the Bandwagon fans. They said, we're
gonna it was the Cartman's Mum's a Dirty Slut Part two.
We're not going to give you that. We're gonna give
you Terence and Phllip episode. Right. We're going to annoy
everybody and whoever this is what we do. This is
who we are, this is what we make. You're in
or you're out. Whoever sticks around gets it, and we're
going to write the show that you want. Sure, And

(51:54):
they've never it's a sign of they've never swayed from that.
They're still writing the show for that audience. Audience has
gotten older, but still it's that audience.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
But when we talk about classic Simpsons, and we've talked
about you know, Golden age, Yes, you know seasons what
either two to ten or three to nine or something
like that. It felt like it was really three in
of giving us both enjoyable for adults, kids could love
it as well. Yeah, nowadays feels like we're erring more
towards keeping the.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Kids on board. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, and that's that's perfectly fine and nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
That's what advertisers one, isn't it? Sure it is, yeah,
h and marketers and all manner of merch makers. But
I do think that's the key element is that The
Simpsons has evolved and changed. I think it has changed
over the years where south Park has evolved, but I
wouldn't say it's changed. Next one here is from Stephanie.
Will you guys ever do a let's play of a
south Park game like The Stick of Truth or The

(52:48):
Fractured but hoole, I actually would appreciate watching you do
or let's play? Speaking for myself, guys like circle X
what look?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It would be suckers viewing for those of at home,
and profoundly damage to my already fragile league.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I'll watch Dan Dough go. Yeah, I've got it. I
haven't played all that much. I'm going to play it.
Let's just give them the time. I feel it's weird
as a parent. I get some spare time now, and
when I want to do some stuff for myself, I
feel guilty. I'm I should be doing the Washington, I
should be vacuuming the floor. Whatever. I feel guilty, I've
said to you recently. I now every day set myself
aside forty five minutes where I can do whatever I

(53:25):
want guilt free. Sure, I think anybody can take this
man truck like it doesn't have now to be a parent.
It can be anybody because everyone's living out of stress.
We feel we're running out of time. Set forty five
minutes and on a full hour, just forty five minutes
off your day aside. Whether you go for a walk,
you play a video game, you sit down and read
your phone, whatever it is, but you can do whatever
you want and it is guilt free. You've earned that
forty five minutes, and I've been in such a better

(53:46):
mental state as a result. I'm just like I've got what,
I've done, what I want to do, or I've done
it yet today because I've taken the kids to school.
But I know this afternoon I'm gonna set forty five
minutes aside, and I'm going to play a game, and
I'm just going to enjoy it quite special, Agent Dale
Keeper from Twin Peaks.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Every day give yourself a present, and in these times,
time is probably the best present you can give yourself.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I'm going to check out. There's two sixty four south
Park games, I think at south Park Rally, which is
like a car racing one, and then there is just
the south Park game from the sixty four. I've never
played the south Park sixty four game, just the main one.
I bought it recently. I can't wait to play it. Fantastic.
Maybe I'll try and work out it all.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Let's play of that, enjoy your three quarters an hour afternoon.
But in answer to the question, let's play.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
No way all right? One more question here, This one
comes from Michael. Michael, who would be your character of
choice in a south Park Racing I just mentioned the
game more gaming in a south Park racing game like
Mario kut and what vehicle would they drive? The obvious
one is Timmy with his wheelchair. Right.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Oh, that's a that's a really good and thought of that. See,
I'm not really that familiar with Mario kat. I'm aware
of the existence of it, and I'm I'm assuming something someone.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Says yo at some stage.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Or two possibly who knows anything can happen. What I
do have is a vague sense of grand theft auto
and I have this image in my mind.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Simpson's Hit and Run is just that. Oh okay, it's
great that thought about Simpson's.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I am picturing Eric Cartman in like an Miami Buys
era white suit, mirrored shades, allah, respect my authority, just
cruising the streets in an eighties.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Corvette on his tricycle.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Well super up, yeah, yeah, causing vehicular mayhem and possibly murder.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
See that would be you have the Cartman character. But
I feel like you'd have to win a few races
to unlock a you know, a skin is the skin's
like a different universe. Yes, unlock the skin of like
a thorough tar Cartman with his little shades and his
little tricycle. That'd be a fun vehicle to have to unlock.
Little like nuggets like that are fun in racing games
where you get the stock standing characters get the stock
standard vehicles. But then if you win races and you

(55:50):
do certain things, you certainly past certain levels or you
you're fine, hidden things, you, unlocked vehicles, things like that.
So I think like Cartman's tricycle, I think Miss Crabbed
You with the school bus will be fun. Oh yeah,
not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
So again, I'm not much of a gamer, but I
like your ideas.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Lear A Malton writing Mecha streisand Randy's got to be
in there somewhere, Yeah, fighting his big giant balls. Yeah
that's it, well said, what are these things called anther
thing that you bounce on? I believe they're called spacehoppers
space hoppers. Yeah, so space balls you.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Space Ball's too coming out. Apparently Bill Pullman's coming back,
but his son is going to be in it.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
It's Rip Moranas. Yeah, and Rick Morana's coming back. Yeah, wow,
I did so. I think I told you. Someone's saying,
I'm so excited that mel Brooks is making Space Walls too,
so sad that he won't be alive when it gets released.
He just tety nine. I will make it. I wouldn't
count him out. Oh no way, he'll make it. Everyone's
counting for it. Everyone's like, Colm, you can do it, buddy,
you can do it. Mal how Ever, make it.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I may mention this woman on our show in the past.
She used to run a bakery in Minerva Road not
far from here, missus Brown.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
What a good bakery name, bacon name, Miss Reynolds Pie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Unfortunately, sadly she passed away just last week, but she
was in the paper because she was a huge fan
of the Cats. Our local football team saw a rage
when she passed away. She was like one hundred and
nine years old.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Well, no good for her indeed, so my great aunt Marie,
she passed away at one o seven.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Margaret, Mary's coming up on ninety five. So but ye know, Mel,
you're probably another ten years in you.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
You can do it, buddy, you can do it. Mate.
We're three the sort of boss we that would be flash.
All right, guys, Well, thank you for sitting in your
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