The Jeffersons (S08E06)

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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Mister Jefferson, ooh, where were just having his lumber party?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Mister Jefferson, This is highly inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Inappropriate.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
No, you're being ignorant. They're my friends. You see.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I didn't have a childhard, so I'm really just a
child myself.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Here, Everything's okay. I want you to east to have one
hundred dollars. Wow, I'm gonna go buy that new sport
code I've been wanting.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Kick Ash.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Welcome to Going Down to South Park, the podcast where
Shamona we always have ourselves a time.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm Dando and I'm Guy. By the way, Dan Doe,
You've got a beautiful voice. Brace yourself, folks. There's going
to be a lot of high register speaking in this
episode because we're here to review the Jeffersons, and we
apologize in advance for how ignorant we're going to be
about this review, but it's stepping on my bit. Do

(01:19):
I have any final words for those magnificas will be ignorant?
So yeah, cut to the chase. Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't have much memories of what I remember when
this came out, how everybody was talking about it. I
didn't see it at the time, right, So I can't
really I don't really have any memories of experiencing it
when it first happened. I'm a big MJ fan. Obviously,
there's allegations out there. You're going to make what you
can of that and just choose what you want to believe, right.

(01:47):
You obviously were in the TV reviewing game, the movie
reviewing game when this came out.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was huge news.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
What were your thoughts when you first saw it back
in the day. Can you recall what the what the
reception was to the to the episode, the expectations were
going into them.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, it's really interesting to think about because there was
almost this underlying feeling of like, this guy's a little
strange and a little strange when it comes to kids,
but there was always that sort of benefit of the
doubt thing going on. It's like, well, much like this
episode says like, oh, well, he never had a child
or anything like that, so he's just reliving it as
an adult. You know, he's got all this, he's got

(02:22):
the means, he's got the opportunity to live his quote
unquote best life, and you have the childhood that he
never had. So it's like and at the same time,
I think they say in this episode, and it's a
common thing when we talk about Michael Jackson's like, well,
he brings us so much joy. He's entitled to a
little bit himself. And if he's a little weird, so
bit he's lived his life in the public eye. That's

(02:42):
going to warp anybody. I think when he passed away,
now whether that's an that sort of opens the floodgates too. Yeah,
he was more than a little weird. He was a
lot weird. So it all gets sort of muddled up
because there was always that feeling. It's like, well, I
mean the nickname was Wacko Jacko, right, so but you've
sort of took it with a grain of salt, and
then you start to realize, okay, well not one hundred

(03:04):
percent sure about this. This guy seems a bit suss.
So when it comes to this particular episode, it's like, oh, yeah,
well we all know he's a bit weird. I'm hanging
around with kids and maybe something suss is going on,
but no, we don't have enough evidence, and it's it
was so confusing for them to sort of cut through
the noise. I don't think this is I mean, they
are talking in this about how this guy's spending way

(03:25):
too much time with kids, but I think the focus
of this episode is more about his parenting. His parenting.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Absolutely, I didn't see this episode as a takedown of
Michael Jackson. Yes, they mocked him regards to his nose
coming off, and there was that kind of aspect to it,
and they do point out because many of the aspects
of this episode the story are things that just actually happened.
He did sleep in bed with kids, he did hang
his child off a balcony. That's the main one. I
think that's the main sort of portion of the episode
where everyone's.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Like, what the hell.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I think the other Stan even says, you fucking lunatic,
what are you doing right?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
My God, yeah, Kyle or Stan one of the someone says,
stop you fucking lunatic.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, what are you doing? And Randy when he
sees them, I did like this. So Randy sees them
in bed, that's that's inappropriate. Give them a hundred dollars. Okay,
cool by, that's walls Jack. But Sharon sees through and
she's like, I'm not sure that scene there particularly is
very much this episode as a whole in the way
they handled it, because they never really once say you
should think this. It's here's all the things he's done,

(04:21):
here's all of the evidence. You decide to draw your
own conclusion. And that's pretty much how MJ's life went down.
There was there was no actual proof that he molested kids, right,
but did he do it? Maybe maybe he didn't. You
just don't know. And that's why I particularly love the
scene I think it was yes, when they're all in bed,

(04:42):
right and Cartman turns to him and they're about to kiss.
What I loved about most about that is it's just
a dream. But in that moment as a viewer, I'm
watching this going, oh, he's about to kiss him, And
then it was a dream and I went Oh, it's
just a dream. They're challenging you to go. But you
thought he would have wouldn't Yeah, oh yeah, you thought
he could have done that. And you're going, oh, you're right.

(05:02):
So if I don't think he must have molest the kids,
why did I think, Oh that was something that probably
was going to happen. Ah, maybe he did. We just
we will never know.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I've never dived deep enough down the MJ rabbit hole. Yeah,
neither of I to.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I've watched the documentaries and whatnot in the Reason that
start graving Dad got canceled and all that kind of stuff,
But I've.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Never, yeah, dived deep enough down that rabbit hole. You know,
I've never really encountered any hardcore MJ stands as they
it was like, no, the people who basically no, no,
you're ignorant, you know, and oh they're railroading him, or
there's no you know, all this evidence is circumstantial or
anything like that. There are people who are die hard
believers that no, nothing untoward happened and this was all

(05:43):
a beat up. You get a little old and realized,
oh shit, everyone's got in the gym.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's where South Park is great. In many ways. Sometimes
they not so much, but from the majority of the
time they show both sides of the equation. Right, so
you can watch this and I think this episode gives
both sides credibility, the ones who are MJ detractors and
the ones who are the massive fans. Fans will watches
and go see the cops are against rich black men,

(06:08):
and you know that's maybe he is just a product
of his childhood and we should be we should be
nice to him. He's just he's just really he's just
trying to relive his childhood. He's not my listening kids,
blah blah blah blah blah. Then you have the detractors
to say, look, how fucking weird is he hangs his
kid off of the balcony, he makes his kid wear
mass He's just an overall weirdo who gets in.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
The same justice Peter Pan, you're a parent, now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Which I think was a good way to a really
good way to end this, because it would be so
easy for them, Trey and Matt to just have MJ's
an absolute weirdo and we should all just think he's
a horrible human being.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Having him the character on the show Miss and Michael Jefferson, Yes,
say you know what, I need to be a better parent.
I need to change my ways. Was this Parker and
Stone's way of saying, Michael, listen to us, Oh this
is your out.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Sorry, going back to that documentary, but I remember just
the most heartbreaking moment, and it was when I think
it might have been Wade Robson who said, I wish
I could have known him as an adult and been
the kind of person that he could talk to about
the things that he was feeling and maybe try to
help him work it out. But I never got that opportunity. Again,
I get the feeling Parker and Stone sort of want

(07:20):
to do that with this, you know, I say, here's
your chance be a man. Having said that, I think
they show their hand. Did you watch the final over
the closing credits. They've got the song over there the world,
but it's yeah, but he I think they've got a
line there it's like, oh, yeah, change your evil molesting ways.
So they might think that he's a molester.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah they do, and they don't. I actually thought they
were pretty respectful to MJ. Overall as respectful as you
can be for a South Park episode, taking the mickey
out of someone as wacky as Wacko Jacko. There's one
particular line, right, and I thought it was very sweet
and take. I could be completely wrong here, right, but
when they go look at his face, dude, what's weird

(08:00):
wrong about his face? And stand goes, I think he's
a might be a victim. He actually was the burn victim.
You know, that's where all a lot of people say
the plastic surgery spiraled out of control stemmed from the
pepsi commercial, right. I think that's their way of saying, yeah,
he looks weird, but he got fucking burne commercial Like
he is a burn victim. Cut him some slack, Yes,

(08:22):
he is weird. That drove him mentally insane, and he did,
he did plastic surgery. At the plastic surgery were out
of control, But it's because he was a burn victim.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I get the feeling that was probably his desire to
change his appearance was probably before that as well, though.
Had he changed his appearance before that, If not radically,
then certainly cosmetically, I mean maybe not with surgery, but
I think he was just dissatisfied or unhappy with the
way that he looked and he was what gave you
that opinion? I think I remember reading articles about it
or something or everything I've always ever read about MJ.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Was that the plastic surgery that he took after having
the the accident in four stem it all stemmed from there.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, there's so much information and I think so much
misinformation and disinformation about him as well.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Have you seen the footage he's entire his head is
catching on fire, fie, Oh yeah, yeah, And it was
apparently the trauma of not only that happening to him,
but the trauma of them leaking the footage of it
because he didn't want footage of it being out and
then leaking the footage of it and it being on
the news. So he turned on the TV and see
himself on fire. Yeah, media man. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But look, I think the show is for the most part,
fairly respectful and fairly compassionate to what Michael Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well, they try to they try to give a reason
as to why this behavior is. It's not just his wacko,
it's he had a shit childhood.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's basically a workhorse since he could walk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, Well, I'm just for those of you that don't
know the incident that we're talking about here, because if
some of you listening, might I know about the Pepsi commercial.
So during the heart of his fame, pop singer Michael
Jackson was doing a big Pepsi commercial. It should have
been a fun ship, but an accident happened that left
him with the lasting physical and emotional damage. In eighty four,
he was filming the Pepsi commercial featuring a performance of
his hit so On Billy Jan in front of a
crowd at the Shrine Auditorium in Ala. Pepsi had developed

(10:12):
the idea for the ad where Jackson would emerge from
a curtain of sparks. While it looked impressive, if something
went wrong and it changed his life forever. During the
sixth take, there was a pyrotechnic malfunction on the set
and Jackson's hair was caught on fire. Of course, it
was the eighties and he was coated in flammable hair products.
The fire quickly spread to his head and was unable
to be put out. While the fire was extinguished rather

(10:33):
quickly and still left him with severe burns, he experienced
second and third degree burns to his skull. His face
and even sections of his skull were exposed. Jackson was
treated at Cedars Senna Medical Center for his burns and
smoke inhalation. Jackson once said that he thought he was
dying and even saw visions of angels whatever. But this
incident left him with some horrible emotional trauma, worsened by

(10:55):
the fact it was captured on video and lead to
the media. PEPSI apologized, paid for his medical expenses and
often in one point five million, which he then donated
completely to the Bruptmann Medical Center in Culver City, California,
and founded the Michael Jackson Burn Center for Children. Unfortunately,
he had to undergo several surgeries to repair the damage
and had to go various hair tramp hair implants. He
often wore makeup afterwards to cover up the scars and

(11:17):
injuries on his face and wore wigs and has to
conceal his hair loss and his scars to his scalp.
Jackson suffered from nightmares from there on and developed the
fear of fire and pyrotechnics for his shows. After the incident,
he also became obsessed with cosmetic surgery after the incident
and used painkillers and sedatives to cope with it until
his death in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
To the stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, so that's why I feel like, you know, them
saying yes, he's got his plastic surgery looked really bizarre.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So he was.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
He was odd, an odd fellow. He was as superintendents
would say, and kids will look at him and go,
he looks weird. But then to say, dude, if I
think he'll be a burn victim, I just felt I
was training that pain tribute. I could be wrong. I
just felt as their way of saying, there's a reason, Oh.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I love to have compassionate the boy were in
this episode. Actually, I loved how they took a little
blanket under their wing and yeah, I wanted to help
him out. I thought that was really really sweet.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, And as you're saying, because the whole thing is
about his parenting. We had a question on last week's
mail back about saying do you feel like the boys
stopped being boys? And it became the voice of the
writers and what acting beyond their years you could take
Kyle's and stand to a lesser extent in this episode
as an example of that oh, where is it park
on a stone? Are just using Kyle as their voice

(12:28):
of reason in this episode or is it a case
of even an eight year old can see that this
isn't right the way he is treating this child.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh, I think so a bit of both. You think,
definitely a bit of both. Yeah, because even like, dude,
your kid can't climb the tree and he's just completely
in his own world singing a song. Yeah. Yeah, all
the adults, all the bulk of the adults in this
are either turning a blind eye or just plain evil. Yeah.
So it's up to the kids to actually be decent
humans in South Park.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, just not in this episode particularly. I feel
like even Randy was just kind of like.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh, Randy's bought off. Yeah, he's like that's weird. But
it's like he's a money which is just how it
all kind of like worked at that point in time,
wasn't it was? It was at their way of saying,
the parents are the kids who slipped in the bed.
They allowed their kids to do it because he's there
were certainly parents who were bought off. Yes, tough one,

(13:20):
not a tough one, but just yeah, there's so much
information out there and of course your own bikes. He's
gonna come into it as well. So I'm not touching this.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
One because my memories of m J. I had the
memory of him hanging it was blanket over the balcony, right,
it was Alan and him when when I saw him
with the mask, and I was thinking, oh, that's running
but his kids wearing masks, that's that's really.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Weird thing to do.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But you can, you can his intentions were good. Just
the way he went about it was not you know,
I understand completely. You see so many celebrities now share
photos of the kids on Facebook want his little cover
over their faces. It's like, I want my kids to
protect us. Oh yeah, so it makes sense why he'd
want his kids protected. It was just make then where
masks and blankets was just a really eccentrically bizarre way.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
And what you have to understand, and I mean listeners
of this show, watches of the show may well be
aware of this, but it's important to remember just how
big a star this guy was. Was there a bigger one?
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't think there was in pop culture when it
comes to music. Freddie Mercury is an eye company. He
wasn't not Oh god, no, he was upper echelong. Yeah,
everyone had Thriller. Well Thriller changed the game, Oh yeah,
very much so, and that just kept kept things rolling.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, you know when you know when bad released
or Dangerous were released, When the black or white video
was released, it's like, oh my god, this is that
just became the event of the season. Everything else sort of. Yeah,
the volume was turned right down and the volume was
turned right up on anything that that was Michael Jackson related. Yeah,
he was the center. He was the epicenter of popular
culture for a good long time. So you bring a

(14:59):
child into that all, but of course he's gonna want
to cover them up because you're gonna have some weirdos
or some freaks out there were like, you'll probably want
to snatch it. Yeah, goodness, goodness, gracious Mack.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
But yeah, you had you felt real sympathy for Blanket
in this and I think that was for me. Again,
as we said earlier, it wasn't mocking mocking his no
plastic surgery. They did mock it, but that wasn't the
central thing with this episode. It was more how he
is parenting this child Blanket right, Oh yeah, And there
was the one scene where it's why the plane that

(15:32):
I've got? You know, So he was hanging Blanket off
the balcony. The kids run off to get help, and
he's insight and Blanket's crying into a Teddy bear and
Michael's trying to dance and just say it's okay, it's okay.
That for me, was probably the worst he looked in
the entire episode from just perception, because this kid, to me,
Blanket came across like a child who doesn't want to
be there, but it is trapped and has no one

(15:54):
there to help him. He can't get out, and it's
this this terrifying figure who's just saying, no, your dad,
and he's just like, I don't want to be here.
I don't like being here. Why is nobody helping him?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah? Why I'm trapped in this terrible, terrible situation. Things
need to change. I just think the sad thing is
that because Michael Jackson was such a huge star, making
so much money and for so many people as well,
that he was just surrounded by enablers. He didn't really
have anyone who would say to him, you're a grown
man now, I mean sorry, I don't want to sound

(16:26):
like a real disciplinarian or drill sarge or something, but
it's like your grown man act like it. I imagine
he did like it, act like that in many way,
probably more in the professional sphere than he did in
the personal sphere. What's that documentary that came out it's
either his story or this is it, or I think
it's someone that maybe came out not long after he died.
You look at him as a performer and as a

(16:46):
leader of this you know, his dancers or his musicians
or his backstage stuff order, and he's very much we're
doing it this way, this way, this way, this way,
the lightest way possible to YEA yeah, but really accomplished.
People who work with him as well say, this guy
was incredibly talented and credibly disciplined, kind of a genius
at that kind of thing. And yeah, and for him
to be when he's off the clock, to be so

(17:07):
sort of indulgent or self indulgent stuff that it's like
that that creates this weird friction. I think that's why
a lot of people are sort of like confused about
the way they think and feel about Michael Jackson.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I was just you mentioned their enablers, and I'm thinking,
I'm surprised they didn't sort of highlight the enablers in
this episode. But maybe the fact that there was nobody
around was their way of saying, he may as well
have nobody around. Sure, and then you're saying at the
end he needed somebody around to say you need to
be a.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Bit well as they say, it's like, yeah, Michael, mister
Jefferson wants to be a kid, not have one. Yeah,
I'm not a parent, but you are. I mean, I
imagine that you know the minute you first held Elliot
in your arms, your first child, and you're like, shit,
things are different now, so everything changes? Yeah, yeah, time
to nut up. Yeah, and then I don't no no

(17:59):
good place.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
But yeah at the end, so you have one of
the boys obviously said to MJ you need to grow up,
you know, or it just he realized he has the
self realization because Cartman defends him, and he's like, actually,
know what, Cartman, You're right, I know you're wrong. I
need to I need to grow up. I need to
change my ways here.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
There's nothing wrong with staying in touch with her in
a child, but if you're responsible for an actual child,
it's time to embrace the inner adult as well.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I actually know it is because Cole comes in and says, look,
let's just say none of it's true, because that's pretty
much what it is, like. We can't prove any so
let's just say none of it's true. The way he's
parenting note needs to change all this other stuff whatever,
Say what you will, but he can't keep treating this
child this way. He can't be hanging him off a
balcony and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And look, have a popcorn machine and a Space Invaders
game in your living room, have a train in your backyard,
have a treehouse and God and singing every once in
a while. But yeah, don't forget to tell your kids
that brusht their teeth and eat their fucking vegetables. Brushing
the teeth twice a day, it's a struggle, mate. I
saw this on the news last night. What's that Parents
are having trouble getting their kids to brush their teeth
and we just, yeah, sometimes you get it done once

(19:09):
a day. Maybe floss once a week, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Really once a week something like that. Moly moly, Well,
our kids are floss but they brushed twice a day.
Oh yeah, and at nighttime they know we have to
double check.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Margaret Mary, God bless her coming up on ninety five
later this month. Uh, you're marry. I think the one
piece of advice that you as the one piece of
wisdom that you will clean your heat always. That's the
one thing I remember from Margaret Mary going up, like
make sure you clean your heath.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm like, okay, I remember once Allie turned him and
he goes, but aren't these teeth is going to fall anyway?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
And I was like, shut up, it's just brush them anyway.
Keep them clean till they do. Yes, keep them clean
until they do.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
We were your favorite moments from the episode.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Look, the sort of runs out of everything we've been
talking about. I think we've been relitigating the Michael Jackson
Michael slash Jefferson case. But when they're up in the
wishing tree and he's singing that song and just the
like we can do everything, and I mean everything in
my wishing tree. It's like, I want to show you
my wishing tree. Yeah, that's I thought that was kind

(20:20):
of Actually they actually sounded like MJ songs though, didn't they.
That's the only thing I wrote it is like his
voice was really something?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh mate, I mean this wasn't m J. Overously who'd
voiced no idea, I go to look it up. Actually,
because it was voiced by the singing voice was Kit
Lemon in the Simpsons. Yeah, I'm assuming he's an m
J fan. I'm assuming you wanted on the South like one.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Let's have a look in South Michael Jackson is primarily
voiced by Trey Parker. Wow. They tweak their voices though,
so you can kind of hear.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's probably auto tuned when it came to the singing. Yeah,
it's kind of Cartman without the raspiness though, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
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Speaker 3 (21:22):
Other things I enjoy when there're at dinner and you know,
Miss Jefferson clearly is just not used to adult company
at adult conversation, and we've been like that. Yeah, it
doesn't really have an opinion a lot of stuff, But
I just love the phrase though, no, no dick a
doo doo in their souls. It was very funny. This

(21:43):
was a very sweet moment. When I mentioned before about
the kids being kind of compassionate and nice and all,
that's just this just struck me as really great, a
big brother moment. You know, when Blankets heard he's scraped
his knees. Yeah, and Carl's like, yeah, I'm gonna put
some eye down on this, and the kids like, oh
and tell yeah, I know, I know, be cool, you'd
be right. I just love that. Yeah. I never had

(22:03):
any brothers or anything like that. What do you mean
when I say anything like that. I never had brothers,
either big or little. But it's like, that's the kind
of thing that I would want to be able to
do to something. It's like, yeah, no, it's only going
to hurt for a second. Yeah, be cool, you'll be right. Yeah.
I loved it. I thought that was so nice. I
like that Randy was brought up so easily. Yeah, we
haven't really sort of touched on the whole police harassment

(22:26):
kind of was about to get back to us, and
I would say, we need to touch on the police
because I think this was a real highlight for the
South Park Police Department, particularly Sergeant Harrison Yates. Yeah, yeah, lord, Yeah,
what would you say, this crisis of conscience? I guess
you could say, I guess so, yeah, but what's the
whole point of doing now this I misguided? Yeah? I

(22:47):
love it when he's I mean, as we always say,
the best thing about Parking's owner is, yeah, they make
things seem very real, like this could be an episode
of NYPD Blue or some other copture or whatever. But
I love that it's like, stand out out. This man
is not black Jesus. I love the scene with Maggie,
his wife. Oh yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah. But after that,

(23:09):
you know, he's so disgusted by the fact that they
almost framed a white man, and he's so disgusted that
he has a lean out of the currents buke. But
then when he's on the phone later with I think
it's the San Diego Police chief or whatever. Yeah, we
had a guy like that set him up with malestage
like Harrison ag like molestation nice cuts to yeah a

(23:30):
nice will come into play down the track. I love nice,
my favorite. But yeah, this is that whole. It's good
police work, molestation nice.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's also just a great way of having South Park
acknowledged the molestation and say it was all set up.
Because they're not saying it was a setup. It's just
purely for the stake of the story. But that give
us the MJ fans something to go see see.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, because when was this episode two thousand and four? Okay,
so you're ten years out from OJ as well they
bring yeah, yeah, absolutely, But there was that general perception,
certainly among the black community in the US that maybe
not not not general, but a perception among certain sections
of the black community. It's like, yeah, the cops have
got it in for us, and if anyone sort of

(24:12):
you know, sticks their head up too high, knocked off.
So you have any ear that you want to bring up.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You mentioned a couple of them, they're the police and whatnot.
But I just also just love every time you was talking,
just having that and just just just you can't just
speak normally.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
He has to be Jackson. Well he's programmed and it's
been programmed. That's true, from from child, literally was program
from a child. Yeah, so that this is it's almost
like we never really knew who the real person was.
It was just this is the character that was created
by us, the public, who wanted him to be a
certain way. We we love this music. It's like, just

(24:45):
keep doing you keep doing what you're doing. We're gonna
wind you up, so you can just keep You're like
you're like a like a toy.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
You can keep being because this is the thing. People
mocked him, people ridiculed Hi, whatnot, but that ship sole papers,
so they wanted him to continue doing that. So it's
like just fuel that behavior.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Here's the thing. One gets the feeling that Prince may
have been a bit not necessarily as weird as Michael Jackson,
but I mean, you look at the way Prince carried
himself and some of the stuff behind the scenes of
Prince's life. His name changes little yeah, little odd, eccentric,
yeah yeah yeah. But at the same time, I don't know,
it didn't get half as much as sort of like

(25:22):
a bad press or whatever. I think I talked about
this on another episode or maybe one of our other shows.
But there was this big epic documentary about Prince that
was I think it's actually been made. It's by a
really good documentary maker who made a fantastic doco called
oj Maide in America that is just definitive on and

(25:43):
not just about the OJ case but about his life
in general, and it gave you a really vivid picture
of the man and everything else. And he boldly did
a similar one on Prince, and it was kind of like,
you know, this guy had some skeletons in closet, he
didn't treat women well, he was shitty to a lot
of his collaborators and colleagues, all this kind of stuff,
and it just got mixed. It got mixed by the

(26:04):
Prince of State, and the Prince of State is now
working on another documentary that's kind of like Prince is great.
And look, it's one of my all time favorite artists,
a fucking genius as far as I'm concerned. But shit, man,
we're grown ups here. Can we balance these two ideas
in our heads? Like this guy made some of the
best fucking pop music ever and could also be kind

(26:25):
of a prick.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
The same with actors who get canceled. You go to
separate the film from the actor.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's increasingly tough these days. But yeah, separating
the art from the artist. I've always said, Oh, I
can appreciate Chinatown while recognizing that Roman Planski is kind
of a piece of shit a lot of ways. But
then you realize, oh, but the darkness that makes Chinatown
as good as it is, it's from Roman Polanski. That's
when things get complicated. It's so, look, we made Michael

(26:52):
Jackson what he is. And when I say we look,
partially we're responsible. I lame a lot of lay, a
lot of the blame of Joe Jackson. In all honesty,
that guy sounds like an absolute arsehole, complicated, complicated stuff,
and I'm just not unlike Sharp, I'm not a complicated man.
That's okay. Remember there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Trivia Time for the Jeffersons. My first question for you
is MJ. I'm still referred to as MJ in this Yes,
let's do that.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
MJ has a poster of what on his arcade wall.
Oh no, I don't know. It's I dot T not
ET it he has the connection with ET of course.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, such a one of the strangest photos that
always scared me when I was a kid, I was
the photo of MJ of Et like like arm and
arm and et Et looks like he's like smirking and smile.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I'm like, this is just weird to me.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh yeah, there's like Et is like the ad in
the movie when I Love ET's my favorite movie. When
I was a kid, I was like, oh, but that's
that's real, Like it's like it's like smiling. I'm like,
this is just weird for me.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Have you ever seen one There's like a photo of
Spielberg with t as Well, Yes and spill We've got
like a shirt half un but something. It's like, that's so.
There's another one of George Lucas and Yoda. Yeah, it's
kind of like check us out. It's like a soft
launch for their relationship or something. So weird. My first
question to you, speaking of stuff that's at the MJ house.

(28:13):
The train goes past with a bunch of kids on it.
Do you remember the numbers on the train? No?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Do not?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Okay, there were eighty three, fifty four, forty nine and
nine on the locomotives. Oh okay, there we go. These
could mean something. Well, they could mean nothing, and I
love to that he refers to it as a Q.
It can't just be a train. No, Well, one of
my questions gonna be what what is the sargest name?
You've already done that, Yates, So it's going to be
what's his wife's name? I spoiled it myself by saying Maggie.

(28:41):
That's right. I love how old school it is that
she's got this sort of Irish accent. That this is
like a speech that a CoP's wife are backing a
movie in, like nineteen four or something. Good comparison hits.
You would be ignorant if you thought MJ was from
Where was it? Ohio? Illinois? Anois that's right?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Speaking of Harris, how long has he been on the force?
He mentions it in some stage.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm going to say nineteen years, close, twenty five years,
twenty five years. All right, I'm gonna try and find
one more for you, because I ruined my other one.
You've already said the Santa Barbaras you got that one.
I can't use that one as a question. Okay, Well,
may've already even said this, but I'm gonna throw it,
throw it out there anyway, How much does he give
Sharon and Randy? It's one hundred dollars a piece.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Give any more questions for me? One who had the
house before the Jeffersons moved in.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Are the Donovans. That's so weird because Clyde's last name
was Donovan. I'm like, Clyde still on the show though
there's move house, so they didn't move away. They has
moved house.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Maybe who was it that they get to sub in
for Blanket? What do you mean that's not a question,
but oh, it's not a trivia question. But you know,
when like we're getting Blanket out of here and we
need these other kids to come in, who was it Kenny?
That it's not Kenny? I mean they oh, they say
they killed Kenny, but I mean it's Kenny. It's literally Kenny. Yes,

(30:03):
because they say Doude. At least you finally get to
do something. Yeah, because he's done nothing for like seasons.
When's the last time Kenny did anything. I guess they
brought him back but didn't do anything. They brought him back,
he hasn't done anything. But it's so odd that he's
not wearing his traditional hood. I mean, I know that
we've seen him. But that's the joke. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think a lot of people watching it because because
five years had gone by in the film Long Car
where you saw him, Yeah, we'll seems heard him speak.
I think we've seeing him from behind taking his.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yellow he was blonde and all that.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah, but this is the first time we heard
him speak proper sentences for a while, right, And I
think the joke here was that if you're watching this
in real time, you know, we don't have streaming, don't
have we have davids and what vhs or whatever. But
Joe was I think you're supposed to be watching going
because I'm watched it going.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Is that Kenny? Is it Kenny? And I did kill Kenny?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
That just struck me so weird.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Now this is one of four episodes that you see
with Duddy's hoody on.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Interesting. Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
In my notes, it's not gonna lie. Originally in my notes,
I had they have a kid to replace him, and
I was like, who is this kid?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And I was like, sure, is this Kenny? Yeah, it's
got the same because it seems like they're treating him
as not one of the core for It's like they're
treating him like a Clyde or a tweak or something.
It's like, at least it's getting to do something. Yeah,
but that's because very dismissive. I'm as well, like not
one of their buddies. Yeah, I know, yeah, it's fat, like,
oh yeah, we're just subbing and we're bringing someone off
the bench. Because Kenny, to me, comes across like a

(31:25):
kind of guy who would be doing this scheme. He
always came across like a butter's in this, didn't he
Oh yeah, thanks for let me do this. I'm like,
it doesn't feel like I don't feel like Kenny at all. No,
but it was Kenny. Yeah, So I think that's why
I was confused.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I'm just looking at the photo of eighteen Spielberg.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
It's so bizarre. Look check it out. I haven't seen
it in the Warbles.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Is that the one you mean with ET's shirts undone?
He's got his hand on his chest.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I think that's it. Yeah, yeah, it's just so look
at this one here. It's that's too small, but I
think that, Yeah, there's an another one that's in that
one a lot sexier. Is that the one you mean?
Oh god, look at a look on ETS fans. I
know it's it's the look on ET's face that gets me.
The same with Michae like I've got a secret, Let's
get them welcol Jackson ET photo. This one was the

(32:14):
one that terrified me as a child. Look at look
at Et. It's weird, right, it's scary. Well a cure.
A friend of mine had that picture, said that, look
how happy MJ look he's.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
In He's very very happy. Well here he wrote the song,
didn't he?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I think?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah? Or no? No, no, well the your diamond did
the hard heart? No MJ. Didn't he do this?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Didn't he do the read a long story book? Maybe
what happened to the nineteen eighty two ET story. But
we'll just do this quickly before we get into the
full review. It's not just Thriller that celebrates its fortie
anniversary in twenty twenty two. Steven spielberg Smash It movie
ET also shares the milestone the Lovable Family film Blah
blah blah blah blah. The link, of course, between ET
and Thriller is the storybook for ET was narrated by

(33:01):
Michael Jackson. Not only that, but it was released in
the same year as Thriller and was created by much
of the same team. Quincy Jones produced. Rod Tepperton, who
wrote the Thriller title track, wrote the song Someone in
the Dark, which appears on the album, and it was
mixed by longtime mj collaborator Bruce Swedeen. Even Dick Zimmerman,
who photographed Michael for the Thriller artwork, took the photo

(33:22):
of Et and Michael Jackson together. Michael began work on
the Et storybook in June of eighty two, just a
couple of months after recording the Thriller album began. Similar
to when Michael recorded She's Out of My Life for
He's Off the Wall album in seventy nine, while recording
his narration, Michael became so upset when Et died that
he began to cry and was left in the relise,
and it was left in the released version. The album,

(33:43):
which was available on both violent cassette tape, contained the
narrator's story by Michael, which was interspersed with soundbites from
the movie, and was book ended with an opening and
closing version of the ballads Someone in the Dark. The
box set included a large poster twenty two inches by
twenty two inches of Et and Michael and a twenty
page paperback Booklet Storybook, which had all the narration and
lyrics alongside stills from the movie during its limited release,

(34:06):
which is why this is such a collector's item these days.
Et Storybook reached number thirty seven on the Billboard two
hundred and eighty two on the UK Album's chart. Whilst
it wasn't a massive commercial success, it was critically acclaimed
and it was one of the eight Grammy Grammy's Michael
one in eighty four Best Recording for Children. I accepting
the award, Michael said, of all the rewards I've gotten,
I'm post. I'm most it says post. I'm most proud

(34:29):
of this one, honestly because I think children are a
great inspiration and this album is not for children, It's
for everyone. And I'm just so happy and I'm so proud,
and i just want to say thank you so much
for allowing me like the ET story Book. I'm sure,
I'm assure you. Just go on YouTube now, let's have
look you.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I won't play it. I was gonna see Michael Jackson
Et Story I'm actually gonna listen to this because I
think be interesting. Michael Jackson ET Storybook? Is it on there?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
And it's on their full album? It's been here Michael
Jackson at ET.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, he died, he died, He died.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
The ET storybook. Hey, I didn't realize that was a
cover for the ET storybook.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
There you go. That is the history of the ET.
So there's a connection.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's why there was an I photo on the wall
posted on the wall and they had the there was
an ET and on a bike sort of hanging from
the roof as well, like a statue kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Okay, go, good golly, your next trivia question. You first,
we don't know we're done with true Why do we
get we're talking about the photos, won't we? You just
went off on a real Michael Jackson ET tangent. Yeah, well,
what's the two of your favorites? Yeah, it's two great
taste that tastes great. Call Michael Jackson one of my
favorites at all. Nicola loves him. I like, I like
his songs. I'm able to acknowledge how pivotal he was

(35:40):
just to pop cult in general. We wouldn't say I'm
like a Michael Jackson fan boy or anything. We've got
this real semi resurgence going on. I mean the MJ
the musical I think is not far. It's either playing
in Melbourne right now or it's going to open very
very so. City ads for it all the time. And
then you've got the two part Michael Jackson movie. Oh yeah,
who's playing him? It's like his Oh it's a family,

(36:01):
Yeah that's right, or something like that. But apparently again
like that Prince documentary, it's sort of like, yes, this
is brought to you by the Jackson States. Yeah. I
think it's been like in the can for quite some time,
but I think they've had to do some re edits.
It's like, yeah, okay, we're we're going to release Gavin Molestation.
Please yes, please nix nay on the Molestation A. I

(36:23):
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Speaker 3 (37:22):
Be like those cheesy poops.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
The Jeffersons originally aired April twenty first, two thousand and four.
The top three films at the US box office at
this time Number three Hall Boy, Number two, Punisher, and
number one Kill Bill Volume two, Yeah only one, Volume two?
Which one are you going to be putting on.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Oh, you put the whole thing on. Yeah, I know that,
but if you had to watch one, you put the
first one on. The first one's more fun. Yeah, that's
what I thought too. The second one's a little deeper
the second one. Yeah, but it has been recut into
one big extrap Ganza calls the whole bloody affair by
tofah Grace. Unfortunately, get kids a wizard editing. Apparently that
has to be released one day. I know I've said

(37:57):
it before in the podcast. I need to see Tofa
Grace's versions of the Star Wins. I mean, I mean,
may if you do a little bit of a horror piracy,
you can probably find it, I hope.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
So I would never do that, I'll do Dante Alexander
was the voice of Blanket Jackson in this. By the way,
who was Dante Alexander doesn't have a wiki page?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Let's have a look.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Dante Alexander just an actor, Yeah, I was just a
child actor. Yeah, he was the voice of Blanket in
this And yeah, what's Blanket doing these days? You're twenty
two now?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Apparently I think I don't know how much about Blanket
Parish Jackson is the one who's sort of still in
the public eye. Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
So the original ed was Averra twenty first, two thousand
and four, written and directed by Trey Parker. The episode
kicks off with the boys on their big wheels. I
call them tricycles.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I love them on the bug. There's difference, beween a
big whe and a tricycle sort of, Well, the big
wheels got the big wheel, yeah, the big was it
looks cooler. Oh you a go kart almost feel in
the back you're load to the ground. Oh, big wheels
didn't come I was I was too big for big
wheels by the time they came around. But I was like, oh, man,
if I was a kid, I would to fucking love
my mate had one. I whenever I seen him riding
around it, I just immediately had heard.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
It.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Just felt like cool. This kid's cool as fuck. So
the kids are riding around on their big wheels. They
notice somebody is moving into the Donovan's house and Cartman
hopes that they're not Austrians. We don't need any more
of those in South Park, and they see it's a child.
Child comes out and he's wearing a mask, and he says, oh, Oh, hey, guys,
He's just so nice from the get go, and it
just wants to be loved.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Well, he's a bit Butters in that way. Yeah, you know,
he's craving friendship and companionship and all that kind of stuff,
and is very innocent the way he goes about as
kids can be. It's like you want to come in
and play, and these kids are just a little bit
too old for that. You know how you feel when
you're about eight or nine. It's like, I'm not hanging
out with some six year old. What the hell? Man?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I wonder if they left Butters out of this episode
because it was so similar to Blanket. I imagine so
because the Stotches even go for dinner at Stan's house,
that's right, but no, Kyle's there and Blanket's there, but
no Butters. Yeah, true, wonder of us a little choice
because it's very similar in just overall vibe. I thought
Butters and Blanket could have been good friends, and Butters

(39:54):
to me feels like the kind of guy who would
have been based on you know what, this episode is
easily le to buy it.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
H Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think the reason I was confused by the whole
Kenny issue as the replacement for Blanket was kind of like, well,
that feels like a natural for Butter's Hello.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Hey you live here?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I just off here with my dad. Are you gonna
read my new friends? No? I really like your town.
My dad went moved somewhere to get away from it all.
He said he wanted peace and play it and to
live with a bunch of hicks who don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
What's that you're wearing?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
It's my mask, my daddy says, it's best for me
to hide my face. My name's Blanket.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Your name is Blanket, right well, Blanket and Hatty Duty.
And these are bad friends, Timsey, Wreeky and Nut. Unfortunately,
we have to be off to the land of Booger Tree,
so we'll be leaving now.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Wait, don't you guys want to come inside and play?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Dude, we're in the fourth grade.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Okay, you know what that means.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
It means we don't hang out.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
With the little kids.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Come I guys, le's get back to our big viewers.
We have arcade games inside.

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Slash four finger discount. But he mentions the arcade, and
that changes everything.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
We have arcade games inside.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Absolutely, yeah, they're going side. They can't believe how cool
it is, how good his arcade room. He's like, it's
not mine, it's my dad. He loves toys and playing
with stuff. And it's like, oh, here we go. But
his dad's retired now. They ask what does he do
he's retired now. He takes me out to the backyard
which has a ferris wheel and a circus, and this
is where we get our first look at MJ. And
I think it was very important that they had the

(41:48):
mustache four from the get guards like, no, this is
Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
This is Michael Jackson. He doesn't have a mustache. It
falls off and just say.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
What is it? Chickibitatar or something like that, whatever it is,
try and replicate some of that. Yeah, the subtitles said,
check a bear, check a b whatever, whatever, blanket, Oh
my beautif a blanket?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
What's wrong with his face?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Be cool? Do they?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I think maybe he's a burne victim or something.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
They were just very respectful and responsible and this weren't
they Oh yeah, yeah, probably a bit beyond their years.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
But it was just nice. And as I was saying,
I think it was a nice little acknowledgment of yes,
he looks weird, but your b let's just get coming
from slack.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
But then Blanket is about to introduce. He said, this
is my dad, Michael j Jefferson, Michael Jefferson, and he
asked him to climb his tree. And we touched on
the wishing tree earlier. And just the Wishing Tree song
is great. As you're saying, yeah, just I want to.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Show you my wishing tree. We can do anything and shomona,
but Kyle points.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Out, hey, dude, your kid can't get it out a tree.
But he's in his own world. He's just you know,
he's singing his song. He's just he's up there with
these new kids. He's having a great time watching this though.
Do you feel like it's him wanting to be alone
with these kids, or it's just I'm just.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Being a kid myself. Let's go have some fun.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's yeah, choose YOURWN adventures.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
About to say, we love kids at this podcast, I
think we can recognize that they can be selfish and
self absorbed and not always considerate of other people MJ.
In this particular case, he's a someone who never grew up.
So yeah, he's got childish ways about him. You know,
have good way, good childish ways, and bad childish ways. Yeah.
Like you said, he's very much locked in his own world,

(43:23):
in his own imagination, and that can be to the
detriment of actually raising a child of your own. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
The boys then go to starks Pond where the kids
are playing, and they tell them all how cool the
house is. I did love Cartman says, I think it
might be Clyde. Maybe is Chladi. He goes, he's got
to guess we've got his backyard?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
What train? No way?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yes, Well, if you don't believe missus Jefferson, then I
guess you can stay here. I believe missus Jefferson. Cut
to all the kids playing, having a great time, maybe
on the swing with MJ.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
We're swinging having so much fun.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Because I got into a room and it was on
a swing with a grown They're going, I'm sweeing. I'm like,
they're not okay with this.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
You would feel a bit dubious about it, I think, yeah,
especially given the stuff that's happened here recently in Australia
when it comes to the childcare sector and some men
who are working within it. Actually, this is something I
need to address because I think on one of our
recent episodes, it might have been Waverley Hills nine or two.
On the episode of Fourfinger Discount, I made a bit
of a strowaway comment. I didn't mean to be glib

(44:25):
about it anyway, but I think I said something like
men and children or men in childcare not a great combination. Now,
of course I was talking about this particular situation because
there's been more than one case that's come up. I
certainly don't mean to tire everybody with the same brush,
and one of our patrons actually brought this up that
they work in that sector and a lot of them
are just disgusted and dismayed by it. So look, my
apologies to anyone that I offended in that regard. I

(44:47):
certainly didn't mean to, but I did want to raise
the point that, yeah, this is currently a situation that's
being addressed in Australia and has caused a lot of
people either working in the sector or but mainly parents
who actually have kids in childcare, they have to deal
with it.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I mean, yeah, look, it's unfortunately all it takes is
one bad egg to ruin it for everybody else.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Indeed, one bad apple spoils a bunch, and unfortunately there's
been more than one bad apple it's come up. So yeah,
let's just move away from that topic entirely, shall we.
Although you brought it up, I did bring it up.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, but yeah, as I was saying, though, if I
walked in and Ali was on if I know the
person's a bit different, but it's just like, yeah, you're famous,
but I don't know you. Oh yeah, yeah, but yeah,
so he's on the swing with Babay And if all
the kids are having a great time and Blanket wants
to offer the kids cotton cancer, Blanket's like, I want
to actually enjoy all this shit as well. I want
to feel like I'm part of it. Tries off a
cotton candy. MJ just pushes his kid out of the way.

(45:35):
He's like, no, it's for me first, me first, who
was on the two tube train, And Blanket just gets
knocked over and this is where it gets his scuffed knee.
As a result, he gets pushed to the side. So
all the kids follow MJ outside. They're singing the train
song cut My Things along with him.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
You have a beautiful yeah, see now again. Good work
by Parker and Stone in terms of like sowing seeds
of doubt because MJ's saying you have a beautiful it
strikes me as classic grooming behavior. Yes, but Common's just
buying into his work because Kymen really needs that validation
as well, or maybe he just likes being around free

(46:08):
cotton candy and popcorn trains.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But Blanket shows he saw me, and Carl's like, mister Jefferson,
missus Jefferson. But he's too busy singing and playing and
having a good time of paying any attention to his kid.
So he guys, I'll go sort you at myself. Let's go,
let's go sort this out, all right.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
This is gonna sting for a second. Oh, I know,
I know, be cool. Thank you that already feels better. So, dude,
do you have any brothers or sisters. I have a
half brother and a half sister, but they live with
their mom now.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
And where is your mom?

Speaker 4 (46:38):
I don't have a mom.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
You must have a mom.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
You mean she doesn't live here, she's dead or what? No,
I was made in a laboratory. What. My daddy wanted
to have a baby, so he put me in a
test tube. Then they put me in a woman's stummy.
And when I was born, daddy took me home. So
you never met your mom. No, but they used to
have a lot of bodyguards and the nannies if that counts. Yeah, yeah,

(47:05):
that counts, if that counts.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
And Kyl's like, yeah that counts. He doesn't actually believe it,
but just like, give god mom, yeah accounts. It's very tough.
He's giving the kid a physical band aid, and he's
giving the kid an emotional yeah exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
But then they're leaving and Cartman says, oh, MJ called
him his best friend.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
He just loves.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Of course, Cartman's a character that just loves Michael Jackson.
And Carl feels bad for Blanket because MJ just it
just seems just wants to be a kid, but not
actually have one, and Cartman says, this is typical of you, Kyle,
and he threatens he basically, if you mess this up,
so God help me, I'll rip the balls off or whatever. Basically,
Kyle's like, I love this, don't screw it up for me.
Stanley gets home and says, you know, we've spent some

(47:44):
time with the Jefferson's, and they say, well, we're gonna
be having the Boslowskis and the Stotches over for dinner.
Maybe we can invite the Jeffersons as well, and they do,
and they question where he's from, and then is this
the first time we get the ignorant? When we get
a bit earlier ignorant, I think it is. Well, it's
one of them anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Certainly the first time from Illinois.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
And of course that stems from Michael Jackson saying anyone
who thinks he bless kids is to yeah, and he says,
he worked in pharmaceuticals. He loves kids because he relates
to them. He thinks they're great. He sees God, God
is in the face of every child, even man. He's like, sure, buddy, yeah, okay,
that's odd.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That's the thing. I mean, I think a lot of
people probably have, if not the same idea. It's like,
you know, how many times have we South Park has
said it? You know when they it was the might
have been the passion of the Jewe episode where everyone's
meeting in the and it's like, oh, yeah, this young
child has set us, set up this this group, so
we're gonna talk about it. Ye know what. The passion
of the Christmans would leave it to a child to

(48:39):
show us the way. That's kind of like the acceptable
version of that. Whereas opposed yeah, as opposed to Mark
mj saying it's like, no, no, the feasive guard is
in the FeAs of every child's that's a little flowery,
that's a little too poetic. Yeah, it's not exactly what
we want.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
But meanwhile, the boys are eating their TV dinners in
the landry, but Blake has nobody what a TV dinner is,
loves it. Yeah, I thinks it's great.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
They still have TV. They really call him TV dinner dinners. Yeah,
I look at him. Yeah, not eating any of that.
I certainly had a where you'd get those like McCain's
light and easy dinners or some Lane's like, you look
at us like this is terrible.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, it's not good for me at all, even though
it says it's like it's healthy.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
It's low and healthy.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Low coales don't be eating lower color because there's being
anything in the fucking box.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
But Blanket has what do we call this?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
What was?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
What was? I think he was wearing over his head
because it's a veil. The veil is it?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
And yeah, yeah whatever, but to cover his face, and
he knin't of eat his food because dads, I have
to wear this veil to cover my face. And Cartman
arrives and threaten stand for he thinks he's stealing. MJ's
a friend. Blabbah bah bah blah. Cart was just being jealous.
But then ask the parents and ask Michael Jackson if
you think Kobe is guilty cause they mentioned that Kobe's
gone back to Eagle whatever it was. It's where the

(49:54):
hotel was that he had sex with the nineteen year old,
apparently beat her up and she liked it rough, he said,
And it all stems from there. And he says, well,
they hate rich people getting away with their crimes. Don't
mention race. But then MJ brings up. I think it's
wrong with please do to wealthy black men and the
hearts are full of greed and doodoos in their souls,
and you think whatever, And then it cuts through the

(50:15):
police station, and of course they find out that his man, Jefferson,
age fifty, who bought a house of cash, says he's black.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
My god, so he is.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
He wants him humiliated and dragged through the dirt, but
do it by the book. So then MJ wakes up
stand at one thirty in the morning dressed as Peter
Pan and this was this was some weird shit right here.
Oh my goodness, Yes, yeah, Michael Jackson never did this,
but did he was? There rumors that he woke the
kids up in the morning playing dress ups or something
that I don't recall because I know, Yeah, the Peter

(50:44):
Pan aspect was Peter Pan never grew up and never
Land was his ranch and yahdiada, YadA, But yeah, just
wake up a kid at one thirty in the morning.
Peter Pan knew no that cartman and arrives as well,
calls me out again for stealing his Oh my god,
look you're here with him, and I love it. He's
like he came here by himself. And then Cartmen's like
you said, I was your best friend and he doesn't
listened to me. Just dancing yet yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Then Kyle arrives and he's found Blanket calling around in
his backyard.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, it's a slumber party.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
And I thought this was quite hilarious. They can't go
home as a ghost there, oh.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Kyle Blanket, Yeah, it's a slumber party.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, mister Jefferson, you need to take your son home.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
We can't go home.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
There's a ghost in our house. Me and Blanket is
skewed that wants to eat us.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Please don't make us go back home. Please, we're skewed.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
We're skewed, scared.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I really felt sorry for blank because Blanket's just following
his dad.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Oh my goodness. And I mean course we're scared. We're scared. Yeah.
Of course you're gonna follow the lead of your parent, Yeah,
regardless of whether they're odd or not, because you know,
they're the voice of authority, the voice of God essentially,
and if you're that's it, it's gonna eat us. Yeah.
If you hear that from your parent, then it's like,
well it must be true.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, support Blanket's just being brainwashed here. They all agreed
to let them sleep there, though Cartman crawls in since
MJ's awesome. There are a batter kiss and stand realizes
the dream and saying, I think that's the moment where
they challenge you as an MJ fan as if you
were to go.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You thought he was going to do it?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, why do you think he was going to do it?
Why did you think he was going to do it?

Speaker 3 (52:09):
It's like, oh shit, well, here's the all the evidence
he'd been presented with so far. Yeah, this guy games
It seems like a bit of a weirder there's isn't
that much of a stretch to think, oh, well he
likes being close to kids? Does he like being close
to kids?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Is it also their way of saying, because he's sleeping
in bed with kids, you just assume while he wants
touch them and kiss them and be like doing things
with them, when in reality, in this episode I'm talking
about in reality, he wasn't. He was just sleeping in bed,
having a slumber party. But the mind says, well, if
he's in bed with kids, must be trying to molest them,
like in the real word. It's like we slept in
bed with kids, he must have been molested in him.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
It's like, did he though?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Or is it just I know it's a fucking weird
thing to do and you should never put your kid
in that situation. No, but it's just it's just it's
just a question of did he or didn't he? That's
what That's the whole This whole episode just leads you
with questions like, well.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Did he I know you're saying did he? It sounds
like he's saying did Yeah. Another situation entirely, but we're
not going to get into that right now.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Rich black man getting away of everything or nothing. But
the police is staking at MJ's house and they're planting
the cocaine Johnson's place, placing the blood shoes. Flakes has
got the puby care for the girl who was raped,
and they said they're going to arresting faster. They don't
want any of the neighbor's cameras capturing anything.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Why do we do it? Harris, sir? Why is it
the best policeman around the country have such a passion
for framing wealthy African Americans with crimes they didn't commit.
Oh why, I guess I never thought about, why, sir,
we just do it? Twenty five years, I've been on
the force. I've seen every kind of sick to pray
act known to humanity, and still when I see a
black man walk by who has more money than me,

(53:46):
I want to vomit my gizzards right into the gutter.
But why, Maybe there is no reason. Maybe there's just
a big blue ball out there that's mostly covered with water,
and we're just going along for the ride.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
And the next morning's Randy walks in catch a stand
and co in bed with missus Jefferson, and he says
they're just having a slumber party, and he's like, inappropriate
eating you're in and he gives them both one hundred dollars.
Randy immediately he's like, oh, cool, sports girt all over.
I'm fine with this, this is cool.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Come back next time you want to give me, get
me buy a sports cup of Sharon's like, nah, she
sees through it and says, you can't go to his
house anymore, and Cartlin's like, you can't tell me what
to do.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
We never actually see Leanne what her thoughts are on
his whole show.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I wonder what you would think.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Too many chefs in the kitchen for this episode, I
think they got their message.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
And there is no chef in this kitchen. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
But then the police see him enter his house. There
was a line here which made me go whole boy
where he says give Blackie a nice welcome home, where
they put out the guns and I was like, oh boy,
and they realize his wife, and then we get the
big Jamaic oh.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
My god, stand stand down, stand down.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
And it's just that the joke being that he looks
white but he actually is African American. Jesus Christ, monkey balls.
I was sent an innocent man to jail who wasn't black,
And what are we becoming. We're supposed to be here
to protect people.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Throw up in the gut.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
But the other guy's just like, you know what he
maybe he still has he's actually black, and Yace just
doesn't want to hear it at all, does he?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Absolutely no.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
But then MJ sees them at the window and tells
Blanket they could put his mask back on. You can't
go outside anymore, going to stay inside there because they're
onto us. And the boys see Blanket looking at the
window and Kyle feel sorry for him walk over and
it's like, dude, we're gonna get chop some wood.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Do you want to come join us? The blanket's like
that sounds good, but MJ again pushes him aside, Hey,
come inside, come play, and they're like, no, no, we're
we're gonna get chopped some wood. Just speaking the blanket. No,
that's that's poopy work, because him in, come inside, we
want to play. And then he hangs blanket out the window,
which I remember when that happened. I was still young,
but everyone I was going, yeah, that's wait a minute,

(55:41):
that's not right.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, you can't defend that someone who has
the inability to have the impulse controled to not to
think that that's okay, regardless of the excuse and the
justification as to why he thought that he was a
good reason to do it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
You wanted to show the people. Blah blah blah. You
hung your fucking baby over a balcony, dude, and nearly
lost in a pretty tall building and nearly lost it,
nearly slipped out. Yeah, that was where people started to go, Oh,
this guy's grasp on reality might not be as firm
as we thought. And we never thought it was that

(56:17):
firm to begin with. No, yeah, so again I think
it's stan or Kite, one of the psycho. Doesn't he
stop you fucking stop, you fucking lunatic. It's like that's
pretty much the Mancher. Everyone should be following that. Situations
like someone stop him. He needs to be stopped. He
needs help, he needs he needs help, exactly. No, Blake,
stop crying. It's okay, Blake, here look bad. Baker's crying

(56:46):
to the pillar and it's felt really sorry for h
like he wants to get out, and no one's able
to help him. No one's because he's just being paid off.
So no, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. They played
your nose. He pulls off MJ's noses. That would be horrifying.
And that is where they started mocking the the start.
They said we shouldn't mock the appearance because of the
bed vidory, but they really do mock the appearance from
here on it.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yes, yeah, they did. Tied in while they're making him
look like thriller. We'll get to that though. So Gates
gets home and says he's quitting the force, and he
gets to the big monologue once again about how He
basically says that, you know, we no matter how much
we frame these rich black men, they keep getting away.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Look at o J.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
YadA, YadA, YadA. He gets of because some guy kept
saying the end word. And his wife, Maggie the she's irish, right,
sounds sounds irish. Yeah, She reassures him that framing black
people it's in your blood.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
You're a good cop.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I've got some work to do, but we all need
that person in our life to just give us that
support when we feel like it's like mussles, give up.
Take a step back, deep breath, You're fine.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Oh yeah, you need that. You're God.
You need those people in your life. You do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
And Cartman arrives at MJ's house. It's me, your best friend,
your best friend, the whole way world. But MJ is
too busy on the phone with his doctor because his
face is melting, falling apart, jaws falling down, oh yeah,
hairs falling out and whatnot. Then Stand and Kyle have
Kenny pretend to be blanket to get the mask on him.
He won't realize because he doesn't pay attention anyway, So
they think they're gonna get away with it. They take blanket,
put Kenny in his spot, and again like at least

(58:13):
finally to do something, And I was like, just felt
very out of character for Kenny.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
That's why I didn't think it was Kenny.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He should be like, what the fuck am I doing? Guys,
I shouldn't have to do this. He should be the
one that he.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Seems way too savvy and stead smart to be involved
in like this.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like getting into his bed, are evensane?
But then Yates calls the Santa Barbara Police Fort Department
about Jefferson. No, we never had one here. I would
have friend him ourselves. And then they mentioned that someone
disappeared before the trial and they admit that they make
kids make fake molestation charge and I was like, oh,
I see what you're doing here.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I love that there quote unquote good cops. They're not
they're doing terrible things, but they're really efficient. I mean,
if they were directing this energy towards actually finding criminal criminals,
it's like, Wow, these guys work by the book. They're efficient,
they're smart, they're driven, except they're using it for all
the wrong things.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, but they say they took embarrassing photos of his
penis and put him in a cell covered and feces
like that never happened with m J.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Right, I believe he had pictures of his dick take
and yeah did he Yeah? Yeah, but it wasn't released
or what oh wait, because if a child had to
describe it, didn't the child couldn't describe it. Well, I
think I think MJ had a skin condition called little igo,
which is like a decolorization, and I believe he had
parts of it on his penis. He's like, well, yeah,

(59:27):
the kid described your dickers looking this way. But no,
the kid was wrong, the kid. But what I'm saying is, yeah,
I know it was described this way, so we need
to take yes, okay, yeah, to prove that he was wrong. Alright, yeah,
back up the theory and to prove that it's black
or white.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Then MJ confronts the boys and it's very much the thriller.
He's running the thriller outfit. He looks like a zombie,
that kind of thing. His face is melting. He takes Kenny,
thinks in his blanket, throws me into the roof, kills him.
Oh my god, you kicking. It's been a while. We
had one of those, hasn't it?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
It has been Yeah, yeah, I think we heard one
this season, and.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I guess that's the joke, is that Kenny? When you
think about it, what has Kenny had to do since
he's come back?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Not a whole lot. He's been very sort of like
not surplus to requirements, but he's haven't given him a
whole lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
That's actually interesting, isn't it? Because we were not begging
and crying for him to come back, but we're going
tweaks not it. You know, we need Kenny call for
It was nice having Kenny back, but he hasn't actually
done anything. Is this their way of saying you wanted
in back? Did you really need him that you just
like seeing maybe just again It might just maybe as
a view, just like seeing him there?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
True? I mean, what was his sort of core gimmick
when he when he started you couldn't make out what
he was saying, so it would invariably be something incredibly dirty. Yeah,
he's not even doing that. That was the gag. Yeah,
but he's never doing that now. Really.

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slash four figure discount. But then he chases them outside
the place out there, about to arrest in. Mccatlan stands
up for him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Sure, maybe mister Jefferson is a little different, but that's
because he had to work all the time when he
was young and missed out on his childhood, which one
with wanting to have the innocence and beauty of a child.
All right, let's just say all the bad things said
about mister Jefferson our lives. Let's say the police department
does just go around spending their time framing people for
crimes he didn't commit. Let's say it's all made up,
and mister Jefferson is just a nice guy who's trying

(01:01:32):
to be a child because he never got to have
a childhood. Well that's fine, except for that he has
children now, and when people have children, they have to
grow up. You're right, I have been so obsessed with
my childhood that I've forgotten about his. I thought having
lots of rides and toys was enough.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
But Blanket doesn't need.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
A playmate, he needs a father and a normal life.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Blanket, I want to give away all my money. I
want to get a normal job and take a shot
at raising you in a normal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
And since he's giving away his money, he's no longer
a rich black man, he's a poor black man. So
the police like, yeah, we're not going to rest you another.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
There's no point in putting a poor black man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
And then they've seen their version of heal the world
and that's the end of the episode. It's indeed, I
think coming out of it, MJ overall his perception is
seen more positively than negatively. He does some crazy shit,
but I was expecting this to be an absolute just
beatdown of MJ, and it was to an extent, But
there was a lot more positivity in there than I expected.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I think there was a lot more sympathy in there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Sympathy is a good word, yeah, than I was expecting
and understanding of the situation in all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Honestly, this is way speculative on my part, but lean
Parker and Stone could be they're pretty well in Wisconsin.
The show is seen. By this stage, they've probably, you know,
got a lot of people saying Parker Stone, we love you,
you know, and really want to invague their way into
their lives. They've seen how the machinery operates, they've seen
how the sausage is made, and it's kind of like,
you know what, I might have a little bit more

(01:02:55):
sympathy for this guy that I might have had being
on the outside looking in, you'd probably go, oh, whacker JACKO.
You be part of the show busin scene for a while.
It's like, this is fucking nuts and you might have
to be a little bit nuts to survive it, or
it might turn you. The level that he was on
especially Oh yeah, well he was, Yeah, MJ was on.
He had no level level, level level, he had leto lup.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, yes, so he was arguably take out people with
the presidents and the queen and whatnot. Famous, most famous
person in the world. Oh yeah, probably the case in
the eighties. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I said, everybody had thriller.
But I think my takeaway from this one was that
Trey Parker and Matt Stone were not in any way
saying that this behavior is acceptable. They were just trying
to say there's a reason for this behavior. Yes, this

(01:03:36):
guy needs help. We're not saying he's done all these things.
We're not saying he didn't do all these things. What
we are saying is that he needs help because his
child needs help. Can we can someone please step in
and help this child?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah, consider the circumstances. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. But overall, that
is our review of the Jeffersons.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I'm glad we finally got here. Season eight's has been
a banger. So far, it's been so good I've had
I've been spoken to people on the weekend. They've all said, yeah, yeah,
season eight to ten's like, that's the that's the golden
era of south Park. Yeah, so that we're definitely in
that golden era. But the next episode I've gone down
to south Park, we shall be reviewing the episode go Backs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Do you remember this one? I've got a vague idea,
so I'm looking forward to revisiting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I'll say one thing. Poverty stricken Future people from poverty
stricken in Future of the year three thousand and forty five,
travel back in time to find work. Do you remember
this one I do because I think they might be
taking our jibs. Oh really, I think they're still doing
episodes about that now. And oh yeah have you seen
so we did our review and you haven't watched it yet.
It's on our YouTube channel that's fairable to listen on

(01:04:36):
our Spotify's and whatnot a review of Sermon on the Mount.
We're going to start doing more modern day reviews as well.
But there's one Dick and Brow I think it is
or something that's where Cartman and Butters start their own
hot dog place. Okay, and they're hiring people who don't
want to work, and they say, well, we're going to
find people who do want to work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
You're taking it, Jebs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
It's like, yeah, but these guys are willing to work,
and you don't want to work. You want sick, pa,
but you take an edge.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Yeah, it is the best of my understanding. Yes, Goubacs
is where we first hear the phrase gear you actually
serves the satire of I llegal immigration. So I think
you might be correct, and I think this is going
to be a very very timely episode.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
It's wildly remembered as the origent of the catchphrase. They
took our jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
He literally named it. You're saying it a little too eloquently.
What Gibs, what's what's the most iconic South Park quotes?
Let's go top five quickly. What the ones that think?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
What comes to your head? Mine is scu you guys
and going home. I haven't been used for a long time.
That was what the era when I first watched South Park.
I think it's why it stuck with me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Respect my authority. Absolutely, I thought this is America. Thought
this was America. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
They are the two big ones, aren't they taking our jobs?
And I thought it was America.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
This is America is fantastic. It's like it's the perfect one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Anyway, goubacs next week. Can't wait to review that one.
Don't forget guys. If you can't support us on Patreon,
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Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Just keep listening to everything on the forefing of this
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