June 17, 2025 • 43 mins
With Season 07 all wrapped up, we run through what we consider to be the best episode of the season, as well as what we thought of it overall. As Guy would say, "the highs, the lows and the creamy centres".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kicksh Welcome to going down to South Park, where this
week we're going to be doing our recap of season seven.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I Andando and I am guying, guess what a long
strange trip it's been over the last couple of months.
I don't know. We've had delightful tuckles and burritos. We
have traveled with the wrong side of town and enjoyed
some marshmallows and ginger ale. I mean, come on, what
a season We're.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
To avoid some crazy old people on the road.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We metroed it up.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah we did, indeed, Yes, But we're going to be
going through our each each of us consider our top
five episodes of the season and explaining why. Plus also
going to be trying to guess what the other person's
top five is. Watch just a little bit of a
game here we do it going down to South Park
and four finger of Discant Studios. So take it away, guy,
what do you reckon? We're my top five, in no
particular order, my five episodes. So I'm going to read
out what I think your top five episodes are. Yes,
(00:54):
season seven of South Park. Okay, Dan, those top five
episodes according to Crazy Cripples. I'm a little bit Country,
fat Butt and pancake Heads, and all about Mormons. Okay,
I reckon your top five Christian rock Hard, fat Butt
and pancake Head, Crazy Cripples, Cassa, Benita, and Gray Dawn.
(01:18):
All right, So before we get into our top fives are,
let's just talk about season seven in general and how
it compared to previous seasons of South Park. I think
this one here there was more of a focus on
some side characters.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In particular.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think we did say that Jimmy and Timmy have
kind of been forgotten about, but at the start of
the season it felt the at least gave him their
own episode, didn't They fleshed out Yeah, definitely fleshed him
out a bit more at the start of this season.
And I think Butters in particular, they worked out what
to do with Butters because I thought last season Butters
was getting very annoying. He wasn't Kenny. The dynamic wasn't
working for me, and I think him just being the
(01:51):
extra friend. By bringing Kenny back, the show felt more.
It felt normal again with having Kenny back and just
having Butters as that extra friend who occasionally chimes in
and helps out Carton with a crazy scheme or things
like things like that. I think that's better for Butters.
I think Butter's being one of the four worked at all.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think so. I think Butters has got such a
distinct personality and a distinct voice that trying to force
him into an existing dynamic of the four core kids
on the episode, it throws it off. It throws off
the balance. You're right. I mean the thing about Stan, Kyle, Cartman,
and Kenny, they're relatively bland characters. Cartman is the exception,
(02:31):
Cartman's the wild card, and you need something like that
in the when you've got a core group of characters, right,
Taking Kenny out and replacing with Butters, it's like, well,
now here's someone with yeah, their own personality. It's not
quite jibing. Yeah, it's good when he's got his side episodes,
or when he can just be a supporting character who
(02:53):
does his Butter's thing. Yeah. I mean, the other characters
sort of plug and play into various scenarios. I think
you fashion a whole episode around them, Like Carp.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I just think Butters is maybe too sympathetic all the time,
and just got to the point where I felt sorry
for him all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well that's true. I mean yeah, with the storylines that
they were doing tory to incorporate Butters into the end
of the main group, it was very much a He
was very much a whipping boy, and I think we
all have a bit of a soft spot for Butters. Yeah,
particularly this early stage. It's almost like if, say, on
The Simpsons, Ralph Wigan became Bart's best friend as opposed
(03:28):
to Millhouse, and Bart was just always Oh, you're so dumb,
or oh I can't believe you this nave, Why am
I putting up with you? And you know, eventually the
audience is going to ask the same question, why are
these who hang out? Then they don't really seem that
well suited to one another. Yeah, As opposed to what
they do with South Park, when they take Butters out
(03:49):
of the equation or out of the out of the
mainstream and just have him pop him every once in
a while, or do an episode focus solely on him,
I think it works a lot better. So yeah, returning
to the original setup, bringing Kenny back from the dead
and realizing Okay, we don't necessarily have to change everything
(04:11):
up for the show to move forward and to evolve.
We can keep what works and adjust everything around it.
You know, you've got to have the engine that drives
the car, but you know we can do a bit
of redecoration on the rest of the car. Terrible metaphor.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, the big thing for me, as you touched understand
was why would Butters want to hang out with these
four boys?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Why would he want to Well, I get the feeling
he's just the post the child for lowese of estate.
He wants a friend and he wants acceptance, absolutely, But
after a while you just go, why would even he
put up with this? Especially after the episode with the
goth kids, right where he was just like, Eh, fuck
you guys, you're a pussies. You know. It's the reason
that I had to break it. Raisins was on my
(04:51):
top five? Was that AKA? Yeah? I thought it might
have been. Yeah, it was mainly because of that. I mean,
that's a I think you will for me at least
there are a certain episode it's an old take even
if they don't completely work one hundred percent work, if
you've got one part that just really nails it. One takeaway. Yeah, yeah,
if you've got one takeaway, then you'll netally go you
know what, that was probably one of my favorite episodes
of the season. And yeah, for Butter's at the end
(05:14):
of that episode to go to have such a strong
sense of self and a strong sense of who he
is and felt unexpected. It felt unexpected, but also felt
great and it felt right. So yeah, you're right in
what you say. It makes sense. Why would he hang
out with these people? Yeah, I mean every of course,
everyone wants to be either in with the in crowd
(05:34):
or just part of the tribe, especially especially when you're
at school and you've seeing these people day after day
and to day it's like, I'd better make some friends here.
This is the next ten years, it's just going to
be a nightmare. So yeah, and I just think Barker's
starting have worked it out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
She touched that on the four Core group, they're kind
of bland, as you were saying, but things with Cartman
is so annoying out there. He's a terrible friend, right, yeah,
standing kind while they call him out for his bullshit,
Kenny doesn't take any bullshit either, So yeah, those three
friends are good for Cartman because he can't push him
around where but as it felt like he was constantly
just being taken advantage of and bullied, and it got
(06:12):
to a point where he went, I'm not enjoying seeing
this child who's clearly gullible and innocent just being bullied
all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean, even with Kyl getting constantly ranked on
by Cartman for various things, mainly his judaism. But Kyle
gives it back as well, and it seems like there
are plenty of times when he's necessarily taking it but
just shrugging it off because well that's Cartman. Yeah, but
occasionally he will say dude, not cool or dude, fuck
(06:40):
you or something like that, which is great. It doesn't
just accept it no, no, no, or take it as
like well, it's the price you pay for doing business.
I guess I think Kenny's a better Lacky for Cartman
as well. He's just more fun in my opinion. Oh yeah,
because he's just it's almost like he's in on it
as well. He's along for the ride. Cartman's a major sociopath.
I think Kenny is minoring in socialo. Yeah. Yeah, so
(07:02):
I don't think he'll go along with it because he'll
sort of vicariously get off on an other things like oh,
I can't believe this guy is actually doing this, but
it's fun to be in the vicinity of it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What do you think of the celebrity parodies and mockeries
in this season? Jennifer Lopez and Beneflet were the big ones,
but we had Rob Runner as well. Yeah, one else
was in this season. Well, celebrity wise, it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Wasn't really a celebrity take off so much as noticing
and poking funder trend. But the whole we're for the street,
the straight guy. Yeah, yeah, I mean Christian rock Hard
is in there, I guess for the Strake. I was
definitely a parody of yes he said, like that the
way the world was at the time of the trend.
But it was also the five guys on the show.
(07:47):
Oh yeah, oh and Christopher Reeve. Let's not think oh
that's the big one of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
For me, I remember watching that going and I was
spoiler the crazy Cripps is in my five right. I
had to include because I just love the Jimmy Timmy story.
But I loved how an episode challenged my perspective of
is okay to laugh at people with a disability of
some kind?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So I was watching this going, Christopher Reef, you can't
make fun of me, and that's fucked up. That's like,
he's one of the nicest guys ever. You don't do
this right. But then I'll laugh at Jimmy's stutter. I'm going, ah, so,
why is okay in my mind for me to laugh
at this? But they can't make fun of Christopher Reeve?
It doesn't really make sense. That is challenging you to
go why is why are you laughing at this? But
(08:31):
it's not okay to mock that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, No, it's asking you to do a little bit
of thinking with the laughing. Yeah, which can be uncomfortable. Yeah, certainly.
But yeah, more power to Parker and Stone for actually
quote unquote going there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I do remember there was one bit in that episode
where he was trying to say Charlie Brown, and as
I was saying in when we reviewed it, there's the
bit of Jimmy starter esther oh yeah, but he goes hi, yeah,
just slays me.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Every time I get the billy it's I may be
completely insensitive here, so sorry, folks, I get the feeling
of the show. Isn't laughing at Jimmy when he's starting
and yeah, it's not sort of poking Oh God, doesn't
those guys suck for, you know, not being able to
get his words out, for stammering the way he does.
It's just like, no, it's part of his personality.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
When the boys don't mock him forward either.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, no, the boys have never mocked Timmy, and they
don't mock Jimmy either. And if there is a differently
able character that is the subject of ridicule or anything
like that as happens later on, I think with the
character of Nathan, it's because we here this guy's a dick.
(09:39):
It's not because of how they are. It's because of.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What's carning King of the Hill. Oh yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, no, hey does Lohan because he's racist. He
just doesn't like his cards of dickhead. But the other
parodi is a Rob Ryander. I thought Rob Ryder was
a little bit I understand what they're trying to say,
but I thought of all the episodes, that was the
one that felt a bit too preachy in my opinion,
where just sort of felt like they were forcing their
opinion on you, saying Rob right a bad smoking Okay, Yeah,
(10:06):
there was moments where they sort of touched on saying
you looking to other side of the fence. But I
think for the most part, South usually right on the
fence and they let you decide. But this that one
just felt like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, the rob Ryiner pistake in that episode felt very
sort of like season two or three in terms of, like,
this guy's a bit of a stuff. I can't wait
to take the window of that stuffed shirt.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, we also got the Weinstein's in the first episode canceled.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's true. Yeah, not specifically or explicitly Weinstein's, but certainly
it was.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Or give me your number five.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I've got it. Now I've got to rank these.
I mean I just sort of gave them in no
particular order. But I'll say number my number five is
all about moments, Okay, all about moments. What about that
in particularly you liked? I think the main thing is
you don't. I don't think you get Booker Bollman without
this episode.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, I think it really was a test thought because
they had it or Gazo where they had the moments
at the door they did.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, and they'd already really sort of dipped their toe
in musical comedy with a bigger long around cut and
they've done. It's hard to think of how many episodes
had or didn't have musical parodies in them or anything
like that, but this really felt like, Oh, we're dipping
the toe in and seeing is there more to this?
(11:31):
Is there more to this? Are people interested in this?
And can we stretch it out? And turns out they
can turns out and then some Yeah. When we spoke
about this episode, I think I was like, look, I'm
I think the whole dumb dumb, dumb, dumb dumb thing
is a little on the nose. It's a little bit obvious.
I really liked that. I know you Didah, yeah, we're
(11:53):
allowed to disagree, but a really broadway ish yes. I
really admired the whole structure of it and everything about it,
even if it didn't one work for me, I was
very happy with the way they did it. I think
it showed off their musical comedy chops to a really
strong degree. And what I really took away from the
(12:15):
episode and what I really enjoyed about, was the whole
walking that type rope between piss take and respect, particularly
when it came to the Mormon faith and the Mormon religion,
and how Parkerins don't clearly have a fascination for it.
They also have a healthy skepticism when it comes to
belief systems of any stripe. But they were, hey, now,
this family, they they get a lot out of this.
(12:39):
They're living a good life because they live life by
these guidelines or these rules or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And they know it might be a bit wacky, but
it makes them happy and they're not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
They're not hurting anybody, and they're not abd to push
it on anybody else. As they say in the episode,
you can believe whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That was the big one, not making sure they're not
pushing it on anybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Absolutely, just like Stango's visit them and it's like, hey,
stand we're all happy and having a great time, and
stands like this is normal. And then he goes home
and goes, oh, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Think I prefer that. I think I prefer happiness. Again,
it's walking that fine line. I mean, I get the
feeling if I was hanging out with their family for
too long and be like, guys, please, you're a little
a little too enthusiastic about everything about life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We've got a similar sort of message at the end
from Gary when he sort of says to stand, I
don't need you just my phone anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Fuck you. You've got a lot of growing up to do. Yeah. Yeah,
So I think that's the main reason that I enjoyed
All About Mormons. Although it was a pretty good episode
all round, but I think I had the most fun
in that episode. I really liked it. Yeah, A lot
of good takeaways from All About Mormons. So that's my
number five. I've got. My number five is Crazy Cripples.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, I just I love seeing gangster Timmy and Jimmy,
and I just felt like a classic sitcom premise where
it was just mistaken identity or.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Just misunderstand Yeah, the ords built on multiple understand Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The viewer as well away what's going on, but the
two main central characters have no idea and you just
you know eventually it's going to all come out, but
just we get the classic come on.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Crazy Cripples is my number one.
Certainly it's on my list.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, Crazy Cripples. Just seeing Timmy and Jimmy
get a bit more of a personality there, especially Timmy
little Bandanna on and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, get a hit off that blood attic. Now I
want to talk a little bit about crazy Cripples. I
mean yeah, because personally I was thinking I'd sta out
of this one very much, But no, why would. I mean,
it's it's got so much good stuff in it. I
mean it's hard to tell which is the apot and
which is the b plot in this when they sort
of run along parallel lines, the whole Christopher Reeve thing
(14:49):
and the whole Timmy and Jimmy hooking up with the crips.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They both work equally well. They could have been their
own story each.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, and I'm not often shocked by South Park, or
I was, and you know, for a while, and then
just accept they're going to do it, like okay, well
those little scamps they're going to go there. And but
when Christopher Reeve gets he's on Larry King Live and
he's like, hey, let me show you how the stem
cell research works, and he cracks the fetus and it
sucks the stems.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
They mocked the way he speaks, of course speaking pattern,
and you go, oh ship, they didn't just do this now,
they did this when he was still with us.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh, absolutely, and takes some balls. Let's take some balls.
One might say it takes an insensitivity.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think I think I wasn't aware at the time,
but I can imagine there would have been more negativity
towards this than positivity because everyone seemed to like Christopher Reef.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Sure, at the same time, you can call it insensitive,
or you can call it bold and fearless, and it's
sort of moved. It can move comedy forward if it's like,
you know, we are willing to do this, but we're
willing to do it with some degree of intelligence and creativity.
I mean, the whole thing they the whole way they
went through the Christopher Reef storyline and how he became
like a super villain and how you know, his Superman nemesis,
(16:01):
Jean Hackman was the one to take him down in
the Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The fact that they turned the most beloved Superman of
all time into the super villain.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So I really, yeah, I enjoyed that aspect of it
very much. And but yeah, the whole stuff with Yeah,
Timmy and Jimmy and the crips just hilarious. I mean,
come on, it's the innocence of it all, isn't it.
It's the innocence of it. You're right, yeah, But as
I said, misunderstanding, parlor misunderstanding, pole of misunderstanding with a
happy ending at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It just I think I said this in the review,
It just felt like an episode of The Nanny where
Fran Dresher and Nanny's what's the name Frank find is
doing something. Mister shiffs like you can't do this, and
she's completely oblivious to what's going to happen, and at
the end of it all unravels and then we get
the big freeze frame.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh my god, That's what I felt like.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It just felt like a classy episode of The Nanny
or some Raymond or something. But you're number four.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I just want to say that episode was some Greek potatoes. Yes,
my number four, I want to say it's South Park
is gay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yep, I'll get that at my number two, Okay, anything
away from one. Number one was the crab People, So
I felt like, crap people in a nutshell is fine,
but I think it sort of took away from the
actual episode overall. For me, I just think you didn't
need that. It just felt so absurd and wacky. But
I just loved the parody of the trend because it
just took me back to like two thousand and two
or two thousand and three or whatever this was. It
(17:18):
just it was such a time. It was such a
moment in time, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh, it really was. I mean going into the two
thousands in the twenty first century Admitaly. There there was
some bad stuff that happened in two thousand and one,
but it also felt like, Wow, this is uncharted territory.
We could do anything. We've got this great new thing
called the Internet. We can communicate with one another, you know,
we could build new stuff out of nothing. It felt great.
(17:44):
It felt really interesting and like and yeah, like anything
was possible. Got to twenty five years later. But you're
right about the nostalgia thing, because that's I got a
real kick out of that just hearing. You know, I
think the band or the artists got wide side with Yeah,
things just keep getting.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Better sometimes I just casually see it to myself.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
When I was doing my research last night, I got
into YouTube. It was like Queer Eye for the Straight
Guy opening credits, and they look kind of janky now,
they look very early two thousands graphic design. But also yeah,
there's an innocence to it. And look, I'm sure that
there was a lot of cynicism, if not necessarily. Calculation
is a better term in putting together queer Eye for
(18:26):
the straight guy.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, it's like it's putting together a boy band,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It is very much so. Yeah, the whole concept, the
concept and the group and everything like that. But look
at it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
He's the food guy, he's the dresser, he's the.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You know, even the way they've got them all, it's like, oh,
that one's the twink, that one's the nerdy, this one
is the cool one. That's the real queen.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
They are a boy band.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh, they are a boy band, but they worked so
well together. Yeah, and I just love those opening credits
and I love that song. So I really enjoyed that part.
But and for South Park to again walk the fine
line between sort of it's more pistake than respect this
time around. But they're very astute when it comes to,
oh god, we really just will swallow any trend that
(19:06):
comes along. And I mean the kids gland out at
the bus stop the very start. How many times as
an episode opened with the four kids at the bus stop. Yeah,
and this time they were all just queer right out
except for Kyle, except for car. But I really enjoyed that.
I just thought, yeah, this was a fun, fun episode.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
There was Yeah, yeah, I seem like Randy and Gerald
nor Thata cold take it as well. Yeah he's walking
down the stairs. Oh my goodness, you're posts.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But there's a little more depth to it as well,
in terms of, like I guess cultural appropriation when it
comes to the gay community particularly, but then you go
one step further with cheps. Well, you know, white folks
just keep taking black stuff all the time without any
sort of There's a great line in Skip was a
skippity do or something they say fliberity flubby. There's like,
(19:56):
come on, mister slave, we've got to get back to
our flip.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's a great line in Sinners, the movie that's in
cinemas now and should be out on the od fairly soon.
But we're Delda Slim, the great blues musician played by
a great Slim. It's full of great name Delta Simms. Sinners.
What a movie, really good one. We should talk about
it on the movie Guard with Marlton Davis. He's talking
(20:21):
about he and another musician played at a concert for
a bunch of white people. Sometimes they even got the
rhythm right. White people love the blues, don't let the
people who played the blue. That's the thing. This episode
touches on that affair bit. I mean, this is a
nice counterpart to the John Waters episode of The Citizens. Yeah,
I think so. I really enjoyed it. And Yeah, that
(20:42):
just gave him the Garrison a real opportunity to be
his freaky self as well. I just love when he's
at the bar with all these guys who are metroed
out and you know, appearing as gay as Christmas. It's like,
how about we going to the bathroom. I give you
a hand job.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh oh no, I'm straight, I think one of the guys.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
No, we don't pound, but we're straight.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I just love that they weigh They had that the
spin of the he's the token homosexual in South Park.
Mister Garrison him going, you can't steal it. This is
our identity. You can't steal this as well. That's the Yeah,
I know, we're just accepting you. Now you're taking it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You're taking my identity. You're not so much acceptance as fine,
you're appropriating. Yeah, it's not great, So I enjoyed the
episode for those reasons. You can take the crab people
and just sort of put that one side. I think, Yeah,
I think we all kind of collectively memory hold the
last maybe third of the episode.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Last five minutes. It's not great, but the crab people
in a nutshell are fine for me. I just thought
that episode detracted from that episode having it in there.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It felt like it was unnecessarily wedged in. We were
talking about on the episode, which you can track down
and listen to.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I felt like watching a season fourteen episode of The
Simpsons where it's gone along fine and all of a
sudden something happens and you're like, what's happening? What's going
on here? It's the it's the parody of that old
TV show, is it not? The Prisoner?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Is that? What's the old TV? The Prisoner? The Prisoner?
Remember I was on that island? Yeah, no one with
a winking kwa.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
This happened?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He was he was like the mister X on the internet,
and I was like, Oh, this is fun. He's got
his own little website and stuff, and then he just
ends up in his like what.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Thew that's true, And I mean I really like the
TV show The Prisoner a lot. Yeah, it's a bit
of a cult favorite, but it's not that well known
that you have to that you can devote that much
of the episode to it that much real estate, you're
gonna have a lot of people like yourself going, wait
a minute, what. Yeah, as a kid, like what is
happening now? Admittedly, yeah, we talk about how we like
on The Simpsons and on South Park as well. When
(22:44):
it's like, oh, they're referring to something that I'm not
one hundred percent sure about. You know, maybe my more
maybe my savvy uncle Darren will go, you know, they're
talking about this TV show The Prisoner. Here's a couple
of episodes, and you might watch it. You might like it,
or you might just go, oh, okay, that's what it is. Yeah, No,
I I like South Park is gay very much great.
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number four is Casabita.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Figured it would be Yeah, I figured it was on
your list. I felt like it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I just had to have this in the list because
it's just so iconic. But is the episode iconic or
is it just because of the restaurant that has the
association with the restaurant and what's happened afterwards. I think
it's become more iconic now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Maybe if you lived in America, it's a bit different,
but Cassabernita has just become such a South Park icon.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Now, Yeah, that's a really good point. It's a fine
episode and a fun episode.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, I liked more the South sorry cartman holding, but
as hostage it almost felt like a disaster movie parody.
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So I liked that aspect more
because they as we were saying in the review, you
don't get to Casaperonida until the end. But I think
that worked better because you it's like you're like, when
are we going to get there? It built it up,
and when you finally got there, I was like, was
(24:24):
his place worth it?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah? It was definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, But I don't know, I'm watching this going maybe
I could have been put this in number five because
I don't think that's one of my favorite episodes. I
enjoyed it, but when you compare it to like Crazy
Cripples or South Packer is gay, it's not on that level.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't think it is, no, but it's just but
it is so iconic that I felt like I had
to include it in my list. I get where you're
coming from, and I do agree with you on that point.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's not on my list. It was close. Yeah, it's
good for the reasons that you mentioned the whole I
mean Cartman's I love a good Cartman's scheme, and this
is a good one. Yeah, go to the birthday party,
oh yeah. And for the pettiest of me, yes, but
this thing just keeps building and buildigan building, and he
really commits to the bit. Yeah. So yeah, good for
(25:08):
gartment in that regard. And as you were talking about
that building, the hype about Casabernita all the way through it.
It's a really good exercise and sort of story construction.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Can'tmen dreaming about it and dreaming about it, and we're
going to think, Wow, can't wait do we get here?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Can't wait? Do we see this place? What is this
magical place? Yeah? So and for it to yeah, be
the origin of this whole Parker and Stone scheme, I
guess or dream. But yeah, we really have a soft
spot with this place. Wouldn't it be great if we
bought it?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And oh shit, made the dream alive? And then it's like,
oh my god, that's a money pitch. Oh six million
is turning into forty.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm watching his documentary and we will talk about and
review it for our Patreon, but I'm watching his going
imagine doesn't haven't like someone company's saying it's going to
cost forty million and haven't enough money to go finee
bucket whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's actually great.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
In the doco, hearing Trey call Matt with the bad
news it's going to cost all this money, and Matt's
just sort of like laughs, and Traders goes. That's just
how that reacts everything he goes. I can tell I
guess I can tell them I'm having cancer and I've
got cancer, and he just laughed. That's his way of
just dealing with issues. He's just sort of laughs. That's
just like he's like, yeah, the whole place is falling apart. Man,
(26:24):
it's going to cost like an extra thirty million. MAT's like, cool, Well,
if you don't laugh, your crime, Yeah exactly, Yeah, all right,
what's your number three? What's your next one?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
My number three is Little Crime Stoppers.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I was thinking about this what was in particular because
you do I love cop shows. I thought it did
a great job of taking the piss out of them here.
But I remember you definitely liked the cop in this.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah. I mean it's borrowing bits from all your favorite
two thousand TV crime They mainly see us I a
lot of CSI. But I think the shoot out at
the strip club at the end, Oh, Rebecca, why why
do I like this episode? Because let's hear it from Rebecca.
(27:08):
Anybody want to dance? I think I get the feeling
of that shoot at the end. You've got that sort
of guitar music under the shoot that feels very shield
yeah as well, so.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's not notice for you or anything like that. It's
too full on for that. But yeah, it's drama, sort
of rock and roll wire or something. Yeah, mean streets
kind of all the shield. You're right, it's more the ship.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But also there's a lot of shout outs to see
us I in there, which, as I said on the
on the episode when we talked about Little Crimes, huge major,
major franchise of the two thousands, and there's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Made so many different versions of that show now, not
just like just other shows that just took the formula
of cs I just put a new spin on it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think Bones is probably the best
example of But you know, I think you had a
whole lot of all crime shows and medical shows was one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
The Monk was kind of like that. But yeah, psych,
I think is psych another one? Numbers numbers qu quirky
nerd with cops. What was the one with ah that's
want to watch? Body of Proof is another one? Oh yeah, yeah,
there's all these shows where it's just a quirky person
with the cops with.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
The delayful Dina Delini. Yeah, so I like that very much.
Something that Parker and Stone to think really well is
take cliches and twist them a little bit, polish them
up a little bit. We know, we know, you know
this is ridiculous. Let's run with it, let's have fun
with it. Yeah, but also be faithful to it. Yeah.
(28:36):
It's a hard balancing act because like, yeah, you look
at you look at to say, the first bit of
Little Crimestoppers where they're investigating the case of the stolen
pie or whatever, and they're really doing a full on
C s I parody with the flashbacks and the camera
angles and everything looks sort of sickly green and d
you really think the billing you've watched these shows and
(28:57):
you actually kind of enjoy them as well. I don't
think you can take the piss this accurately without some
degree of either enjoyment or the very least respect for
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's hard not to enjoy those shows, right, they're just
such switch your brain off TV. We you can just
for forty minutes, you're.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Going to be entertained.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know they're absurd. But I like
when you go into a show knowing it's absurd and
you can just not have to nitpick it. You I
know this is going to be stupid, just accept it.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, and speaking of absurdity, for the show to start with, oh,
we're playing detective, you know. Oh we wish we're playing laundry,
but we're playing detective. We committed to it. For them
to solve a crime in their childish way and then
get upgraded to real cops, and the real cops are
treating them like real cops. Go bust this meth lab
down a little vista, you know. Oh there's a crime
(29:45):
ring operating out of the strip club. You guys go
under cover. It's like, but the kids, I've got to
go and study for their math test. Just to buy
into that absurdity, and for us to buy and do
it as well, I think was just great fun. And
then to have that should shoot out the strip club
at the end, just the the washdown strad.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
And and and the guy and the DJ booth. Yeah,
what did he say? It's it's before the for Rebecca.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
There's a lot of shooting killing going on. But don't
forget to tip your dre I just love that ghost spiel.
It's marvelous. I'm pretty sure I said on a Little
Crime Stoppers episode, Good DJ, Good DJ. It's the kind
of job I'd love to have.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You want a small coastal town radio host, don't you.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, Northern Exposure. I'd be christ in the morning. That's
the dream.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If a Polo Bay said guy will give you a
grand a week to come host the morning radio show,
would you do it?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh? Fuck it? Oh fuck it? Seven dollars seven and
fifty dollars A low form myself, because that's such a
great job. Match that up. Goe here Guard in your mornings.
We should, we should maybe if we ever do TV
(30:56):
launch pot again, we should do the Northern Exposure. That
was a good show.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I never watched it. I know the theme song, and
I know there's Moose in it because the Simpsons did
the parody correct.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Little Crime Stoppers is my number three on my.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Next episode, one that we haven't mentioned at all yet
is Fat Butt and Pancake Head. I think it would
be impossible not to include this in my five. And
I just think this was just such a hilarious mockery
of Jennifer Lopez, whose reputation still to this day seems
to be the same as what it was when this
episode aired, kind of and the relationship that she has
with bet or had with they split up again on
that bet I have. Yeah, like that relationship just never
(31:30):
seemed to change. They go back together, and then you
looked at Ben and you're like, oh, he's fucking miserable again,
slamming This is what he slams the car door behind,
even when he's at the award show, and he just
looks so miserable.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And it's funny because he'll try to do damage control
and say, look, maybe I'm just a sort of a
naturally dourur downbeag kind of person. You look at him
lately because I think he was doing the rounds for
the accountant too, doing the media rounds. Now he's doing
the thing like the junk. Yeah, I won't I won't
do all this too much. But yeah, I've read some
(32:04):
really great articles, read some reasoning about how the media
circuit or the publicity circuit is really changing and no
one really knows what to do anymore, you know this
traditional Oh I'll do an interview with the New York Times,
and I'll be on the cover of Rolling Stone and
all that kind of stuff. Now it's like, what, I've
got to be on hot ones as well, and I've
got to talk to Theovonne for you two hours he's yeah,
(32:26):
and no one knows. No one really knows exactly what
works anymore, So you've got to do all of it.
And it seems like athlete was doing but he did
theovon but he was, you know, in the Criterion closet,
and he did an interview with GQ where he's talking
about all this, all these roles in that, and he
looks so happy and engaged. I don't think you are
a down and danby person. I don't think you should
be in relationships, especially with women named Jennifer Lopez. But
(32:51):
the whole thing, yeah, the whole thing about j LO
in this well, but of a Lopez and j Loo
and the different incarnations or whatever. Yeah, I think she
took a hit with this episode and has never really
fully recovered. I think a lot of people respect Jennifer Lopez.
I think they respect the hustle. Yeah, I don't know
if they like her. I think, you know, it's like
(33:12):
a lot of people though, isn't it. That's true? Yeah,
but I think I don't know if I'm just speaking
to myself here, but I think I'm speaking to a
few other people. It's like, yeah, you work really hard,
and I admire that and you've done good work here,
and that's not a bad song. But I get the
feeling you'd be hell on wheels to hang out with.
I get the feeling, you know hard, I'd be constantly
(33:32):
having to hit my KPIs if we were in a relationship, yeah,
or if I was your employee or something like that. Yeah,
And you'd probably be like, I won't do it, I
won't do it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
But it's just the way this episode, just from the
get go, cartmen pulls out the hand and that's a
voice like this. Oh, and the best part is that
they have the Latino judges laugh at it. Everyone's like,
oh my god, it's so offensive, and that Latina's like,
this ising hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yea many times, as we said, I mean, I think
everyone wants to be, if not the butt of the joke,
then in on the joke or part of the joke.
And yeah, it's like you're making fun of all these
other people. Have a go at us we do some
dumb shit, or.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So often you see people offended for somebody, for a
segment of the community that they're not a part of,
and that sevenent of the community goes, we're fine with it.
Why are you offended for it? We should be offended.
We're not offended. Why are you offended?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah? I'm pretty sure South Park has covered that more
than once. Yeah, but you're right, this is a good
You're right, it's a good episode. It didn't it didn't
make my top fight, but again it was closed.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I thought you would have loved because of the attackos
and bitos and the song what's the songs?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think when I was putting together my top five,
there were certain episodes where it's like I like all
of this, or all of this works in its entirety,
or the other criteria I was using was this bit
works so well that I have to include it, that
that bit really spoke to me, or that bit was
(35:02):
really funny. That bit in Fat Button pancake Head with
the whole everything he does with his little mouth hand puppet.
I enjoyed that a whole lot. And the stuff with
ben Affleck ben Afflex Bitch. It just didn't have quiet
enough for it to make my top five, but it was.
It was close. Absolutely. Yeah, there's probably around number seven
(35:22):
in my in my life.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, now I look at my number one and we've
already discussed this episode and I'm going to take it
away from number one. This shouldn't been my number one.
I think South Park is Gay the more I talked
about it, and Crazy Cripples are definitely higher than this one.
I had All About Mormons as my number one. I
just think I really enjoyed the musical parody, and as
I said, I don't think there'd be a Book of
Mormon without it, which is why I think it's very
pivotal episode. But South Park is Gay and Crazy Cripples
(35:45):
was definitely more enjoyable. But the same reason that we
were discussed earlier for All About Mormons, That's why I
had it my number one. But I think I'm going
to bring it down a couple of pegs. Crazy Cripples
is now going to be my number two, and South
Park is Gay will be my number one. There we go, Yes,
is that far? That's all my five? There must be
one that you haven't mentioned yet. There is, Yeah, and
it's Raisins.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It is raising. You actually touched on the start, Yeah,
I did. Yeah, I reason smitty. Yeah, there's just a
lot to like in this. You talked about the Butter's things, Yeah,
I mean Butter's at the end being all miserable because
not that he's been played, Lexus did play.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I don't think he worked out that he was being played.
I think he thought he was generally being broken up with.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah. For him to have that sort of to have
that heartbreak, for him to not come to yeah, being
absolutely miserable, it's sort of like recognizing, Hey, pain's part
of live. Heartbreaks are part of live. And you know,
for him to say, oh, no, thanks, I love life
and the little it's not really a monologue but a
little bit of this little speech that he gives. I
(36:48):
love that he says, it makes me feel alive, it
makes me feel human. Sorry, I don't I'm getting sort
of vaguely, weirdly emotional about that because it's so hard
to forget yeah, but to articulate it in that way
and to have it come through butters. But I just
love that, Like it makes me feel alive, it makes
me feel human. Yeah, I just I love that so much.
(37:08):
A great way of dealing with grief. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I Mean there's variations on this all the time, but
it's like, sorrow is the price of joy. If you
feel really good about something, eventually you're going to feel
bad about it because it's nothing last. Yeah, nothing lasts.
It's going to end by and of it. If it's
a romantic relationship, it's a breakup or a death or death. Yeah,
(37:29):
So if you're a human being, you've got to be
equipped to deal with that, or you have to be
ready to deal with that. And I thought South Park
handle in such a great way. The whole episode nails heartbreak,
but in a in a kind of funny way as well.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like they picked great songs when stance feeling sad.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Absolutely, yeah, and the goth kids, and it's got the
goth kids, my people, I can please forgot about the
goth kids. I think that's the bit with butters is
that's the real deciding factor why this episode is my
number one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But the God Kids, rais is the number one, the
number Yeah, I think you said Crazy Cripples was going
to be number one. I'm sorry, Yeah, Raisins. Yeah, Raiins
is number two then, but yeah, but it's God the
God Kids. I think I think Raisins is the number one.
It seems to have mean more to you than Crazy Cripples.
Crazy Cripples made you laugh, but this made you feel true. Yeah, okay,
(38:22):
well they can both be food.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But I just love the God Kids. I thought they
were so well designed and defined, such a great mockery. Yeah,
taking the piss, but recognized that everybody needs a tribe. Yeah,
everybody click click, everybody needs to click. There, all their dialogue,
all their stuff. I just really really enjoyed and.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Such just a dialogue. Either it's the king it oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The way they what they say and the way they
say it is yeah, just marvelers. Just like talking about that,
you know, real pain to a third world country. I
don't do it. And were to close out with stand
learning a lesson, but also you know, not having the
greatest takeaway from it. Oh yeah, just you know when
(39:11):
he sees Wendy and token to here, was like, Whndy,
you're a bitch and token right here, buddy, I'm sure
I said on the Razors episode, just right here, buddy.
That really just makes me laughs.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Just a great message of just get on with life, mate,
you know, don't especially when you're a kid, don't let
this bothery it. Just fucking get on with it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, And I get the feeling that's saying those words
to those people is probably like it's gone a good
way to him getting it out of his system and
movie on. Yeah, because sometimes he doesn't say fuck you man,
just anybody. Sometimes it can be people that you work with. Yeah,
sometimes you just have to say to them, fuck you
on out.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Well, a good season wasn't as I think this is
the best season we've reviewed so far. We might say
that all the time, but I do think the show
is going from strength to straight.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's the best season we reviewed since the last season.
This was really good. You're right, and there was a
lot of good stuff in season seven.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I mean, I think there was only one episode that
I think didn't go up to the standard, and it
was the finale.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, we didn't have a whole lot of time for
it's Christmas encounter. I don't think we hated it, but
I think we were like, oh, you're leaving early on
Friday with this episode. I'm sure they gave their version
of one hundred percent to it, but it's also.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I felt something they were trying to whip out timing
because Tsunami saying had been captured and moderate that absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but look, going back through this, there's there's something
you enjoy in pretty much every episode here. I mean,
I got nothing against red Man's greed. I got nothing
against can toilet paper canceled well, canceled, cancels, cancels.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
A great template. The way they sort of structured that
episode was really good. Oh yeah, absolutely, what else did
that little bit country we didn't discuss? There was the
other one with the Christian rock card. I thought you
would have had that because you love the rock songs.
I do.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
That's true. Gray Dawn another classic. Like I said, there's
there's bits and pieces in every episode, but out yeah,
even in It's Christmas in Canada, I think is Yeah,
anytime you bring in that Scott, he's a dick, you've
got me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
For that part of it wasn't bad. It just wasn't
up to the standar of the rest of the season.
But yeah, season seven was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Season eight though, is what we're gonna be starting next week,
and the first episode of season eight is do you
want know what It's called?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Tell me?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
It is Good Times with Weapons. I believe this might
be the anime parody I think so where they get
their weapons turned them into like anime.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, into anime warriors. Yeah, I think It's got the song,
It's fat in Love.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Good times, great close up, Up, the Down, Steroid, The
Passion of the Jew Awesomo, you got f in the A,
The Jeffersons go Backs, Douche and turd something Walmart. This
way comes pre school?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Preschool?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Is that the one with I don't know which is
the one where like screw is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, I think he gets screwed by the teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
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Speaker 2 (43:00):
To the love to the lives, the lives, the los
Kicksh Welcome to going down to South Park, where this
week we're going to be doing our recap of season seven.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I Andando and I am guying, guess what a long
strange trip it's been over the last couple of months.
I don't know. We've had delightful tuckles and burritos. We
have traveled with the wrong side of town and enjoyed
some marshmallows and ginger ale. I mean, come on, what
a season We're.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
To avoid some crazy old people on the road.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We metroed it up.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah we did, indeed, Yes, But we're going to be
going through our each each of us consider our top
five episodes of the season and explaining why. Plus also
going to be trying to guess what the other person's
top five is. Watch just a little bit of a
game here we do it going down to South Park
and four finger of Discant Studios. So take it away, guy,
what do you reckon? We're my top five, in no
particular order, my five episodes. So I'm going to read
out what I think your top five episodes are. Yes,
(00:54):
season seven of South Park. Okay, Dan, those top five
episodes according to Crazy Cripples. I'm a little bit Country,
fat Butt and pancake Heads, and all about Mormons. Okay,
I reckon your top five Christian rock Hard, fat Butt
and pancake Head, Crazy Cripples, Cassa, Benita, and Gray Dawn.
(01:18):
All right, So before we get into our top fives are,
let's just talk about season seven in general and how
it compared to previous seasons of South Park. I think
this one here there was more of a focus on
some side characters.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In particular.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think we did say that Jimmy and Timmy have
kind of been forgotten about, but at the start of
the season it felt the at least gave him their
own episode, didn't They fleshed out Yeah, definitely fleshed him
out a bit more at the start of this season.
And I think Butters in particular, they worked out what
to do with Butters because I thought last season Butters
was getting very annoying. He wasn't Kenny. The dynamic wasn't
working for me, and I think him just being the
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extra friend. By bringing Kenny back, the show felt more.
It felt normal again with having Kenny back and just
having Butters as that extra friend who occasionally chimes in
and helps out Carton with a crazy scheme or things
like things like that. I think that's better for Butters.
I think Butter's being one of the four worked at all.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think so. I think Butters has got such a
distinct personality and a distinct voice that trying to force
him into an existing dynamic of the four core kids
on the episode, it throws it off. It throws off
the balance. You're right. I mean the thing about Stan, Kyle, Cartman,
and Kenny, they're relatively bland characters. Cartman is the exception,
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Cartman's the wild card, and you need something like that
in the when you've got a core group of characters, right,
Taking Kenny out and replacing with Butters, it's like, well,
now here's someone with yeah, their own personality. It's not
quite jibing. Yeah, it's good when he's got his side episodes,
or when he can just be a supporting character who
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does his Butter's thing. Yeah. I mean, the other characters
sort of plug and play into various scenarios. I think
you fashion a whole episode around them, Like Carp.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I just think Butters is maybe too sympathetic all the time,
and just got to the point where I felt sorry
for him all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well that's true. I mean yeah, with the storylines that
they were doing tory to incorporate Butters into the end
of the main group, it was very much a He
was very much a whipping boy, and I think we
all have a bit of a soft spot for Butters. Yeah,
particularly this early stage. It's almost like if, say, on
The Simpsons, Ralph Wigan became Bart's best friend as opposed
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to Millhouse, and Bart was just always Oh, you're so dumb,
or oh I can't believe you this nave, Why am
I putting up with you? And you know, eventually the
audience is going to ask the same question, why are
these who hang out? Then they don't really seem that
well suited to one another. Yeah, As opposed to what
they do with South Park, when they take Butters out
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of the equation or out of the out of the
mainstream and just have him pop him every once in
a while, or do an episode focus solely on him,
I think it works a lot better. So yeah, returning
to the original setup, bringing Kenny back from the dead
and realizing Okay, we don't necessarily have to change everything
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up for the show to move forward and to evolve.
We can keep what works and adjust everything around it.
You know, you've got to have the engine that drives
the car, but you know we can do a bit
of redecoration on the rest of the car. Terrible metaphor.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, the big thing for me, as you touched understand
was why would Butters want to hang out with these
four boys?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Why would he want to Well, I get the feeling
he's just the post the child for lowese of estate.
He wants a friend and he wants acceptance, absolutely, But
after a while you just go, why would even he
put up with this? Especially after the episode with the
goth kids, right where he was just like, Eh, fuck
you guys, you're a pussies. You know. It's the reason
that I had to break it. Raisins was on my
(04:51):
top five? Was that AKA? Yeah? I thought it might
have been. Yeah, it was mainly because of that. I mean,
that's a I think you will for me at least
there are a certain episode it's an old take even
if they don't completely work one hundred percent work, if
you've got one part that just really nails it. One takeaway. Yeah, yeah,
if you've got one takeaway, then you'll netally go you
know what, that was probably one of my favorite episodes
of the season. And yeah, for Butter's at the end
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of that episode to go to have such a strong
sense of self and a strong sense of who he
is and felt unexpected. It felt unexpected, but also felt
great and it felt right. So yeah, you're right in
what you say. It makes sense. Why would he hang
out with these people? Yeah, I mean every of course,
everyone wants to be either in with the in crowd
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or just part of the tribe, especially especially when you're
at school and you've seeing these people day after day
and to day it's like, I'd better make some friends here.
This is the next ten years, it's just going to
be a nightmare. So yeah, and I just think Barker's
starting have worked it out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
She touched that on the four Core group, they're kind
of bland, as you were saying, but things with Cartman
is so annoying out there. He's a terrible friend, right, yeah,
standing kind while they call him out for his bullshit,
Kenny doesn't take any bullshit either, So yeah, those three
friends are good for Cartman because he can't push him
around where but as it felt like he was constantly
just being taken advantage of and bullied, and it got
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to a point where he went, I'm not enjoying seeing
this child who's clearly gullible and innocent just being bullied
all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I mean, even with Kyl getting constantly ranked on
by Cartman for various things, mainly his judaism. But Kyle
gives it back as well, and it seems like there
are plenty of times when he's necessarily taking it but
just shrugging it off because well that's Cartman. Yeah, but
occasionally he will say dude, not cool or dude, fuck
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you or something like that, which is great. It doesn't
just accept it no, no, no, or take it as
like well, it's the price you pay for doing business.
I guess I think Kenny's a better Lacky for Cartman
as well. He's just more fun in my opinion. Oh yeah,
because he's just it's almost like he's in on it
as well. He's along for the ride. Cartman's a major sociopath.
I think Kenny is minoring in socialo. Yeah. Yeah, so
(07:02):
I don't think he'll go along with it because he'll
sort of vicariously get off on an other things like oh,
I can't believe this guy is actually doing this, but
it's fun to be in the vicinity of it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
What do you think of the celebrity parodies and mockeries
in this season? Jennifer Lopez and Beneflet were the big ones,
but we had Rob Runner as well. Yeah, one else
was in this season. Well, celebrity wise, it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Wasn't really a celebrity take off so much as noticing
and poking funder trend. But the whole we're for the street,
the straight guy. Yeah, yeah, I mean Christian rock Hard
is in there, I guess for the Strake. I was
definitely a parody of yes he said, like that the
way the world was at the time of the trend.
But it was also the five guys on the show.
(07:47):
Oh yeah, oh and Christopher Reeve. Let's not think oh
that's the big one of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
For me, I remember watching that going and I was
spoiler the crazy Cripps is in my five right. I
had to include because I just love the Jimmy Timmy story.
But I loved how an episode challenged my perspective of
is okay to laugh at people with a disability of
some kind?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So I was watching this going, Christopher Reef, you can't
make fun of me, and that's fucked up. That's like,
he's one of the nicest guys ever. You don't do
this right. But then I'll laugh at Jimmy's stutter. I'm going, ah, so,
why is okay in my mind for me to laugh
at this? But they can't make fun of Christopher Reeve?
It doesn't really make sense. That is challenging you to
go why is why are you laughing at this? But
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it's not okay to mock that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, No, it's asking you to do a little bit
of thinking with the laughing. Yeah, which can be uncomfortable. Yeah, certainly.
But yeah, more power to Parker and Stone for actually
quote unquote going there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I do remember there was one bit in that episode
where he was trying to say Charlie Brown, and as
I was saying in when we reviewed it, there's the
bit of Jimmy starter esther oh yeah, but he goes hi, yeah,
just slays me.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Every time I get the billy it's I may be
completely insensitive here, so sorry, folks, I get the feeling
of the show. Isn't laughing at Jimmy when he's starting
and yeah, it's not sort of poking Oh God, doesn't
those guys suck for, you know, not being able to
get his words out, for stammering the way he does.
It's just like, no, it's part of his personality.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
When the boys don't mock him forward either.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, no, the boys have never mocked Timmy, and they
don't mock Jimmy either. And if there is a differently
able character that is the subject of ridicule or anything
like that as happens later on, I think with the
character of Nathan, it's because we here this guy's a dick.
(09:39):
It's not because of how they are. It's because of.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What's carning King of the Hill. Oh yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, no, hey does Lohan because he's racist. He
just doesn't like his cards of dickhead. But the other
parodi is a Rob Ryander. I thought Rob Ryder was
a little bit I understand what they're trying to say,
but I thought of all the episodes, that was the
one that felt a bit too preachy in my opinion,
where just sort of felt like they were forcing their
opinion on you, saying Rob right a bad smoking Okay, Yeah,
(10:06):
there was moments where they sort of touched on saying
you looking to other side of the fence. But I
think for the most part, South usually right on the
fence and they let you decide. But this that one
just felt like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, the rob Ryiner pistake in that episode felt very
sort of like season two or three in terms of, like,
this guy's a bit of a stuff. I can't wait
to take the window of that stuffed shirt.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, we also got the Weinstein's in the first episode canceled.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's true. Yeah, not specifically or explicitly Weinstein's, but certainly
it was.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Or give me your number five.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I've got it. Now I've got to rank these.
I mean I just sort of gave them in no
particular order. But I'll say number my number five is
all about moments, Okay, all about moments. What about that
in particularly you liked? I think the main thing is
you don't. I don't think you get Booker Bollman without
this episode.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, I think it really was a test thought because
they had it or Gazo where they had the moments
at the door they did.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, and they'd already really sort of dipped their toe
in musical comedy with a bigger long around cut and
they've done. It's hard to think of how many episodes
had or didn't have musical parodies in them or anything
like that, but this really felt like, Oh, we're dipping
the toe in and seeing is there more to this?
(11:31):
Is there more to this? Are people interested in this?
And can we stretch it out? And turns out they
can turns out and then some Yeah. When we spoke
about this episode, I think I was like, look, I'm
I think the whole dumb dumb, dumb, dumb dumb thing
is a little on the nose. It's a little bit obvious.
I really liked that. I know you Didah, yeah, we're
(11:53):
allowed to disagree, but a really broadway ish yes. I
really admired the whole structure of it and everything about it,
even if it didn't one work for me, I was
very happy with the way they did it. I think
it showed off their musical comedy chops to a really
strong degree. And what I really took away from the
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episode and what I really enjoyed about, was the whole
walking that type rope between piss take and respect, particularly
when it came to the Mormon faith and the Mormon religion,
and how Parkerins don't clearly have a fascination for it.
They also have a healthy skepticism when it comes to
belief systems of any stripe. But they were, hey, now,
this family, they they get a lot out of this.
(12:39):
They're living a good life because they live life by
these guidelines or these rules or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And they know it might be a bit wacky, but
it makes them happy and they're not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
They're not hurting anybody, and they're not abd to push
it on anybody else. As they say in the episode,
you can believe whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That was the big one, not making sure they're not
pushing it on anybody else.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Absolutely, just like Stango's visit them and it's like, hey,
stand we're all happy and having a great time, and
stands like this is normal. And then he goes home
and goes, oh, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Think I prefer that. I think I prefer happiness. Again,
it's walking that fine line. I mean, I get the
feeling if I was hanging out with their family for
too long and be like, guys, please, you're a little
a little too enthusiastic about everything about life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We've got a similar sort of message at the end
from Gary when he sort of says to stand, I
don't need you just my phone anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Fuck you. You've got a lot of growing up to do. Yeah. Yeah,
So I think that's the main reason that I enjoyed
All About Mormons. Although it was a pretty good episode
all round, but I think I had the most fun
in that episode. I really liked it. Yeah, A lot
of good takeaways from All About Mormons. So that's my
number five. I've got. My number five is Crazy Cripples.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, I just I love seeing gangster Timmy and Jimmy,
and I just felt like a classic sitcom premise where
it was just mistaken identity or.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Just misunderstand Yeah, the ords built on multiple understand Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The viewer as well away what's going on, but the
two main central characters have no idea and you just
you know eventually it's going to all come out, but
just we get the classic come on.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Crazy Cripples is my number one.
Certainly it's on my list.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, Crazy Cripples. Just seeing Timmy and Jimmy
get a bit more of a personality there, especially Timmy
little Bandanna on and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, get a hit off that blood attic. Now I
want to talk a little bit about crazy Cripples. I
mean yeah, because personally I was thinking I'd sta out
of this one very much, But no, why would. I mean,
it's it's got so much good stuff in it. I
mean it's hard to tell which is the apot and
which is the b plot in this when they sort
of run along parallel lines, the whole Christopher Reeve thing
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and the whole Timmy and Jimmy hooking up with the crips.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They both work equally well. They could have been their
own story each.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, and I'm not often shocked by South Park, or
I was, and you know, for a while, and then
just accept they're going to do it, like okay, well
those little scamps they're going to go there. And but
when Christopher Reeve gets he's on Larry King Live and
he's like, hey, let me show you how the stem
cell research works, and he cracks the fetus and it
sucks the stems.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
They mocked the way he speaks, of course speaking pattern,
and you go, oh ship, they didn't just do this now,
they did this when he was still with us.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh, absolutely, and takes some balls. Let's take some balls.
One might say it takes an insensitivity.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think I think I wasn't aware at the time,
but I can imagine there would have been more negativity
towards this than positivity because everyone seemed to like Christopher Reef.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Sure, at the same time, you can call it insensitive,
or you can call it bold and fearless, and it's
sort of moved. It can move comedy forward if it's like,
you know, we are willing to do this, but we're
willing to do it with some degree of intelligence and creativity.
I mean, the whole thing they the whole way they
went through the Christopher Reef storyline and how he became
like a super villain and how you know, his Superman nemesis,
(16:01):
Jean Hackman was the one to take him down in
the Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
The fact that they turned the most beloved Superman of
all time into the super villain.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So I really, yeah, I enjoyed that aspect of it
very much. And but yeah, the whole stuff with Yeah,
Timmy and Jimmy and the crips just hilarious. I mean,
come on, it's the innocence of it all, isn't it.
It's the innocence of it. You're right, yeah, But as
I said, misunderstanding, parlor misunderstanding, pole of misunderstanding with a
happy ending at the end.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It just I think I said this in the review,
It just felt like an episode of The Nanny where
Fran Dresher and Nanny's what's the name Frank find is
doing something. Mister shiffs like you can't do this, and
she's completely oblivious to what's going to happen, and at
the end of it all unravels and then we get
the big freeze frame.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh my god, That's what I felt like.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It just felt like a classy episode of The Nanny
or some Raymond or something. But you're number four.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I just want to say that episode was some Greek potatoes. Yes,
my number four, I want to say it's South Park
is gay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yep, I'll get that at my number two, Okay, anything
away from one. Number one was the crab People, So
I felt like, crap people in a nutshell is fine,
but I think it sort of took away from the
actual episode overall. For me, I just think you didn't
need that. It just felt so absurd and wacky. But
I just loved the parody of the trend because it
just took me back to like two thousand and two
or two thousand and three or whatever this was. It
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just it was such a time. It was such a
moment in time, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Oh, it really was. I mean going into the two
thousands in the twenty first century Admitaly. There there was
some bad stuff that happened in two thousand and one,
but it also felt like, Wow, this is uncharted territory.
We could do anything. We've got this great new thing
called the Internet. We can communicate with one another, you know,
we could build new stuff out of nothing. It felt great.
(17:44):
It felt really interesting and like and yeah, like anything
was possible. Got to twenty five years later. But you're
right about the nostalgia thing, because that's I got a
real kick out of that just hearing. You know, I
think the band or the artists got wide side with Yeah,
things just keep getting.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Better sometimes I just casually see it to myself.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
When I was doing my research last night, I got
into YouTube. It was like Queer Eye for the Straight
Guy opening credits, and they look kind of janky now,
they look very early two thousands graphic design. But also yeah,
there's an innocence to it. And look, I'm sure that
there was a lot of cynicism, if not necessarily. Calculation
is a better term in putting together queer Eye for
(18:26):
the straight guy.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, it's like it's putting together a boy band,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It is very much so. Yeah, the whole concept, the
concept and the group and everything like that. But look
at it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
He's the food guy, he's the dresser, he's the.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You know, even the way they've got them all, it's like, oh,
that one's the twink, that one's the nerdy, this one
is the cool one. That's the real queen.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
They are a boy band.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh, they are a boy band, but they worked so
well together. Yeah, and I just love those opening credits
and I love that song. So I really enjoyed that part.
But and for South Park to again walk the fine
line between sort of it's more pistake than respect this
time around. But they're very astute when it comes to,
oh god, we really just will swallow any trend that
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comes along. And I mean the kids gland out at
the bus stop the very start. How many times as
an episode opened with the four kids at the bus stop. Yeah,
and this time they were all just queer right out
except for Kyle, except for car. But I really enjoyed that.
I just thought, yeah, this was a fun, fun episode.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
There was Yeah, yeah, I seem like Randy and Gerald
nor Thata cold take it as well. Yeah he's walking
down the stairs. Oh my goodness, you're posts.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But there's a little more depth to it as well,
in terms of, like I guess cultural appropriation when it
comes to the gay community particularly, but then you go
one step further with cheps. Well, you know, white folks
just keep taking black stuff all the time without any
sort of There's a great line in Skip was a
skippity do or something they say fliberity flubby. There's like,
(19:56):
come on, mister slave, we've got to get back to
our flip.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's a great line in Sinners, the movie that's in
cinemas now and should be out on the od fairly soon.
But we're Delda Slim, the great blues musician played by
a great Slim. It's full of great name Delta Simms. Sinners.
What a movie, really good one. We should talk about
it on the movie Guard with Marlton Davis. He's talking
(20:21):
about he and another musician played at a concert for
a bunch of white people. Sometimes they even got the
rhythm right. White people love the blues, don't let the
people who played the blue. That's the thing. This episode
touches on that affair bit. I mean, this is a
nice counterpart to the John Waters episode of The Citizens. Yeah,
I think so. I really enjoyed it. And Yeah, that
(20:42):
just gave him the Garrison a real opportunity to be
his freaky self as well. I just love when he's
at the bar with all these guys who are metroed
out and you know, appearing as gay as Christmas. It's like,
how about we going to the bathroom. I give you
a hand job.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh oh no, I'm straight, I think one of the guys.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
No, we don't pound, but we're straight.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I just love that they weigh They had that the
spin of the he's the token homosexual in South Park.
Mister Garrison him going, you can't steal it. This is
our identity. You can't steal this as well. That's the Yeah,
I know, we're just accepting you. Now you're taking it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You're taking my identity. You're not so much acceptance as fine,
you're appropriating. Yeah, it's not great, So I enjoyed the
episode for those reasons. You can take the crab people
and just sort of put that one side. I think, Yeah,
I think we all kind of collectively memory hold the
last maybe third of the episode.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Last five minutes. It's not great, but the crab people
in a nutshell are fine for me. I just thought
that episode detracted from that episode having it in there.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It felt like it was unnecessarily wedged in. We were
talking about on the episode, which you can track down
and listen to.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I felt like watching a season fourteen episode of The
Simpsons where it's gone along fine and all of a
sudden something happens and you're like, what's happening? What's going
on here? It's the it's the parody of that old
TV show, is it not? The Prisoner?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Is that? What's the old TV? The Prisoner? The Prisoner?
Remember I was on that island? Yeah, no one with
a winking kwa.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
This happened?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He was he was like the mister X on the internet,
and I was like, Oh, this is fun. He's got
his own little website and stuff, and then he just
ends up in his like what.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Thew that's true, And I mean I really like the
TV show The Prisoner a lot. Yeah, it's a bit
of a cult favorite, but it's not that well known
that you have to that you can devote that much
of the episode to it that much real estate, you're
gonna have a lot of people like yourself going, wait
a minute, what. Yeah, as a kid, like what is
happening now? Admittedly, yeah, we talk about how we like
on The Simpsons and on South Park as well. When
(22:44):
it's like, oh, they're referring to something that I'm not
one hundred percent sure about. You know, maybe my more
maybe my savvy uncle Darren will go, you know, they're
talking about this TV show The Prisoner. Here's a couple
of episodes, and you might watch it. You might like it,
or you might just go, oh, okay, that's what it is. Yeah, No,
I I like South Park is gay very much great.
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
Figured it would be Yeah, I figured it was on
your list. I felt like it.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I just had to have this in the list because
it's just so iconic. But is the episode iconic or
is it just because of the restaurant that has the
association with the restaurant and what's happened afterwards. I think
it's become more iconic now.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Maybe if you lived in America, it's a bit different,
but Cassabernita has just become such a South Park icon.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Now, Yeah, that's a really good point. It's a fine
episode and a fun episode.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, I liked more the South sorry cartman holding, but
as hostage it almost felt like a disaster movie parody.
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So I liked that aspect more
because they as we were saying in the review, you
don't get to Casaperonida until the end. But I think
that worked better because you it's like you're like, when
are we going to get there? It built it up,
and when you finally got there, I was like, was
(24:24):
his place worth it?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah? It was definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, But I don't know, I'm watching this going maybe
I could have been put this in number five because
I don't think that's one of my favorite episodes. I
enjoyed it, but when you compare it to like Crazy
Cripples or South Packer is gay, it's not on that level.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't think it is, no, but it's just but
it is so iconic that I felt like I had
to include it in my list. I get where you're
coming from, and I do agree with you on that point.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's not on my list. It was close. Yeah, it's
good for the reasons that you mentioned the whole I
mean Cartman's I love a good Cartman's scheme, and this
is a good one. Yeah, go to the birthday party,
oh yeah. And for the pettiest of me, yes, but
this thing just keeps building and buildigan building, and he
really commits to the bit. Yeah. So yeah, good for
(25:08):
gartment in that regard. And as you were talking about
that building, the hype about Casabernita all the way through it.
It's a really good exercise and sort of story construction.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Can'tmen dreaming about it and dreaming about it, and we're
going to think, Wow, can't wait do we get here?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Can't wait? Do we see this place? What is this
magical place? Yeah? So and for it to yeah, be
the origin of this whole Parker and Stone scheme, I
guess or dream. But yeah, we really have a soft
spot with this place. Wouldn't it be great if we
bought it?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And oh shit, made the dream alive? And then it's like,
oh my god, that's a money pitch. Oh six million
is turning into forty.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I'm watching his documentary and we will talk about and
review it for our Patreon, but I'm watching his going
imagine doesn't haven't like someone company's saying it's going to
cost forty million and haven't enough money to go finee
bucket whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's actually great.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
In the doco, hearing Trey call Matt with the bad
news it's going to cost all this money, and Matt's
just sort of like laughs, and Traders goes. That's just
how that reacts everything he goes. I can tell I
guess I can tell them I'm having cancer and I've
got cancer, and he just laughed. That's his way of
just dealing with issues. He's just sort of laughs. That's
just like he's like, yeah, the whole place is falling apart. Man,
(26:24):
it's going to cost like an extra thirty million. MAT's like, cool, Well,
if you don't laugh, your crime, Yeah exactly, Yeah, all right,
what's your number three? What's your next one?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
My number three is Little Crime Stoppers.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I was thinking about this what was in particular because
you do I love cop shows. I thought it did
a great job of taking the piss out of them here.
But I remember you definitely liked the cop in this.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah. I mean it's borrowing bits from all your favorite
two thousand TV crime They mainly see us I a
lot of CSI. But I think the shoot out at
the strip club at the end, Oh, Rebecca, why why
do I like this episode? Because let's hear it from Rebecca.
(27:08):
Anybody want to dance? I think I get the feeling
of that shoot at the end. You've got that sort
of guitar music under the shoot that feels very shield
yeah as well, so.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's not notice for you or anything like that. It's
too full on for that. But yeah, it's drama, sort
of rock and roll wire or something. Yeah, mean streets
kind of all the shield. You're right, it's more the ship.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But also there's a lot of shout outs to see
us I in there, which, as I said on the
on the episode when we talked about Little Crimes, huge major,
major franchise of the two thousands, and there's.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Made so many different versions of that show now, not
just like just other shows that just took the formula
of cs I just put a new spin on it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think Bones is probably the best
example of But you know, I think you had a
whole lot of all crime shows and medical shows was one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
The Monk was kind of like that. But yeah, psych,
I think is psych another one? Numbers numbers qu quirky
nerd with cops. What was the one with ah that's
want to watch? Body of Proof is another one? Oh yeah, yeah,
there's all these shows where it's just a quirky person
with the cops with.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
The delayful Dina Delini. Yeah, so I like that very much.
Something that Parker and Stone to think really well is
take cliches and twist them a little bit, polish them
up a little bit. We know, we know, you know
this is ridiculous. Let's run with it, let's have fun
with it. Yeah, but also be faithful to it. Yeah.
(28:36):
It's a hard balancing act because like, yeah, you look
at you look at to say, the first bit of
Little Crimestoppers where they're investigating the case of the stolen
pie or whatever, and they're really doing a full on
C s I parody with the flashbacks and the camera
angles and everything looks sort of sickly green and d
you really think the billing you've watched these shows and
(28:57):
you actually kind of enjoy them as well. I don't
think you can take the piss this accurately without some
degree of either enjoyment or the very least respect for
what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's hard not to enjoy those shows, right, they're just
such switch your brain off TV. We you can just
for forty minutes, you're.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Going to be entertained.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know they're absurd. But I like
when you go into a show knowing it's absurd and
you can just not have to nitpick it. You I
know this is going to be stupid, just accept it.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, and speaking of absurdity, for the show to start with, oh,
we're playing detective, you know. Oh we wish we're playing laundry,
but we're playing detective. We committed to it. For them
to solve a crime in their childish way and then
get upgraded to real cops, and the real cops are
treating them like real cops. Go bust this meth lab
down a little vista, you know. Oh there's a crime
(29:45):
ring operating out of the strip club. You guys go
under cover. It's like, but the kids, I've got to
go and study for their math test. Just to buy
into that absurdity, and for us to buy and do
it as well, I think was just great fun. And
then to have that should shoot out the strip club
at the end, just the the washdown strad.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
And and and the guy and the DJ booth. Yeah,
what did he say? It's it's before the for Rebecca.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
There's a lot of shooting killing going on. But don't
forget to tip your dre I just love that ghost spiel.
It's marvelous. I'm pretty sure I said on a Little
Crime Stoppers episode, Good DJ, Good DJ. It's the kind
of job I'd love to have.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You want a small coastal town radio host, don't you.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh, Northern Exposure. I'd be christ in the morning. That's
the dream.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If a Polo Bay said guy will give you a
grand a week to come host the morning radio show,
would you do it?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh? Fuck it? Oh fuck it? Seven dollars seven and
fifty dollars A low form myself, because that's such a
great job. Match that up. Goe here Guard in your mornings.
We should, we should maybe if we ever do TV
(30:56):
launch pot again, we should do the Northern Exposure. That
was a good show.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I never watched it. I know the theme song, and
I know there's Moose in it because the Simpsons did
the parody correct.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Little Crime Stoppers is my number three on my.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Next episode, one that we haven't mentioned at all yet
is Fat Butt and Pancake Head. I think it would
be impossible not to include this in my five. And
I just think this was just such a hilarious mockery
of Jennifer Lopez, whose reputation still to this day seems
to be the same as what it was when this
episode aired, kind of and the relationship that she has
with bet or had with they split up again on
that bet I have. Yeah, like that relationship just never
(31:30):
seemed to change. They go back together, and then you
looked at Ben and you're like, oh, he's fucking miserable again,
slamming This is what he slams the car door behind,
even when he's at the award show, and he just
looks so miserable.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And it's funny because he'll try to do damage control
and say, look, maybe I'm just a sort of a
naturally dourur downbeag kind of person. You look at him
lately because I think he was doing the rounds for
the accountant too, doing the media rounds. Now he's doing
the thing like the junk. Yeah, I won't I won't
do all this too much. But yeah, I've read some
(32:04):
really great articles, read some reasoning about how the media
circuit or the publicity circuit is really changing and no
one really knows what to do anymore, you know this
traditional Oh I'll do an interview with the New York Times,
and I'll be on the cover of Rolling Stone and
all that kind of stuff. Now it's like, what, I've
got to be on hot ones as well, and I've
got to talk to Theovonne for you two hours he's yeah,
(32:26):
and no one knows. No one really knows exactly what
works anymore, So you've got to do all of it.
And it seems like athlete was doing but he did
theovon but he was, you know, in the Criterion closet,
and he did an interview with GQ where he's talking
about all this, all these roles in that, and he
looks so happy and engaged. I don't think you are
a down and danby person. I don't think you should
be in relationships, especially with women named Jennifer Lopez. But
(32:51):
the whole thing, yeah, the whole thing about j LO
in this well, but of a Lopez and j Loo
and the different incarnations or whatever. Yeah, I think she
took a hit with this episode and has never really
fully recovered. I think a lot of people respect Jennifer Lopez.
I think they respect the hustle. Yeah, I don't know
if they like her. I think, you know, it's like
(33:12):
a lot of people though, isn't it. That's true? Yeah,
but I think I don't know if I'm just speaking
to myself here, but I think I'm speaking to a
few other people. It's like, yeah, you work really hard,
and I admire that and you've done good work here,
and that's not a bad song. But I get the
feeling you'd be hell on wheels to hang out with.
I get the feeling, you know hard, I'd be constantly
(33:32):
having to hit my KPIs if we were in a relationship, yeah,
or if I was your employee or something like that. Yeah,
And you'd probably be like, I won't do it, I
won't do it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
But it's just the way this episode, just from the
get go, cartmen pulls out the hand and that's a
voice like this. Oh, and the best part is that
they have the Latino judges laugh at it. Everyone's like,
oh my god, it's so offensive, and that Latina's like,
this ising hilarious.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yea many times, as we said, I mean, I think
everyone wants to be, if not the butt of the joke,
then in on the joke or part of the joke.
And yeah, it's like you're making fun of all these
other people. Have a go at us we do some
dumb shit, or.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So often you see people offended for somebody, for a
segment of the community that they're not a part of,
and that sevenent of the community goes, we're fine with it.
Why are you offended for it? We should be offended.
We're not offended. Why are you offended?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah? I'm pretty sure South Park has covered that more
than once. Yeah, but you're right, this is a good
You're right, it's a good episode. It didn't it didn't
make my top fight, but again it was closed.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I thought you would have loved because of the attackos
and bitos and the song what's the songs?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think when I was putting together my top five,
there were certain episodes where it's like I like all
of this, or all of this works in its entirety,
or the other criteria I was using was this bit
works so well that I have to include it, that
that bit really spoke to me, or that bit was
(35:02):
really funny. That bit in Fat Button pancake Head with
the whole everything he does with his little mouth hand puppet.
I enjoyed that a whole lot. And the stuff with
ben Affleck ben Afflex Bitch. It just didn't have quiet
enough for it to make my top five, but it was.
It was close. Absolutely. Yeah, there's probably around number seven
(35:22):
in my in my life.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, now I look at my number one and we've
already discussed this episode and I'm going to take it
away from number one. This shouldn't been my number one.
I think South Park is Gay the more I talked
about it, and Crazy Cripples are definitely higher than this one.
I had All About Mormons as my number one. I
just think I really enjoyed the musical parody, and as
I said, I don't think there'd be a Book of
Mormon without it, which is why I think it's very
pivotal episode. But South Park is Gay and Crazy Cripples
(35:45):
was definitely more enjoyable. But the same reason that we
were discussed earlier for All About Mormons, That's why I
had it my number one. But I think I'm going
to bring it down a couple of pegs. Crazy Cripples
is now going to be my number two, and South
Park is Gay will be my number one. There we go, Yes,
is that far? That's all my five? There must be
one that you haven't mentioned yet. There is, Yeah, and
it's Raisins.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It is raising. You actually touched on the start, Yeah,
I did. Yeah, I reason smitty. Yeah, there's just a
lot to like in this. You talked about the Butter's things, Yeah,
I mean Butter's at the end being all miserable because
not that he's been played, Lexus did play.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I don't think he worked out that he was being played.
I think he thought he was generally being broken up with.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah. For him to have that sort of to have
that heartbreak, for him to not come to yeah, being
absolutely miserable, it's sort of like recognizing, Hey, pain's part
of live. Heartbreaks are part of live. And you know,
for him to say, oh, no, thanks, I love life
and the little it's not really a monologue but a
little bit of this little speech that he gives. I
(36:48):
love that he says, it makes me feel alive, it
makes me feel human. Sorry, I don't I'm getting sort
of vaguely, weirdly emotional about that because it's so hard
to forget yeah, but to articulate it in that way
and to have it come through butters. But I just
love that, Like it makes me feel alive, it makes
me feel human. Yeah, I just I love that so much.
(37:08):
A great way of dealing with grief. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I Mean there's variations on this all the time, but
it's like, sorrow is the price of joy. If you
feel really good about something, eventually you're going to feel
bad about it because it's nothing last. Yeah, nothing lasts.
It's going to end by and of it. If it's
a romantic relationship, it's a breakup or a death or death. Yeah,
(37:29):
So if you're a human being, you've got to be
equipped to deal with that, or you have to be
ready to deal with that. And I thought South Park
handle in such a great way. The whole episode nails heartbreak,
but in a in a kind of funny way as well.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Like they picked great songs when stance feeling sad.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Absolutely, yeah, and the goth kids, and it's got the
goth kids, my people, I can please forgot about the
goth kids. I think that's the bit with butters is
that's the real deciding factor why this episode is my
number one.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But the God Kids, rais is the number one, the
number Yeah, I think you said Crazy Cripples was going
to be number one. I'm sorry, Yeah, Raisins. Yeah, Raiins
is number two then, but yeah, but it's God the
God Kids. I think I think Raisins is the number one.
It seems to have mean more to you than Crazy Cripples.
Crazy Cripples made you laugh, but this made you feel true. Yeah, okay,
(38:22):
well they can both be food.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But I just love the God Kids. I thought they
were so well designed and defined, such a great mockery. Yeah,
taking the piss, but recognized that everybody needs a tribe. Yeah,
everybody click click, everybody needs to click. There, all their dialogue,
all their stuff. I just really really enjoyed and.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Such just a dialogue. Either it's the king it oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The way they what they say and the way they
say it is yeah, just marvelers. Just like talking about that,
you know, real pain to a third world country. I
don't do it. And were to close out with stand
learning a lesson, but also you know, not having the
greatest takeaway from it. Oh yeah, just you know when
(39:11):
he sees Wendy and token to here, was like, Whndy,
you're a bitch and token right here, buddy, I'm sure
I said on the Razors episode, just right here, buddy.
That really just makes me laughs.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Just a great message of just get on with life, mate,
you know, don't especially when you're a kid, don't let
this bothery it. Just fucking get on with it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, And I get the feeling that's saying those words
to those people is probably like it's gone a good
way to him getting it out of his system and
movie on. Yeah, because sometimes he doesn't say fuck you man,
just anybody. Sometimes it can be people that you work with. Yeah,
sometimes you just have to say to them, fuck you
on out.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Well, a good season wasn't as I think this is
the best season we've reviewed so far. We might say
that all the time, but I do think the show
is going from strength to straight.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's the best season we reviewed since the last season.
This was really good. You're right, and there was a
lot of good stuff in season seven.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I mean, I think there was only one episode that
I think didn't go up to the standard, and it
was the finale.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, we didn't have a whole lot of time for
it's Christmas encounter. I don't think we hated it, but
I think we were like, oh, you're leaving early on
Friday with this episode. I'm sure they gave their version
of one hundred percent to it, but it's also.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I felt something they were trying to whip out timing
because Tsunami saying had been captured and moderate that absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but look, going back through this, there's there's something
you enjoy in pretty much every episode here. I mean,
I got nothing against red Man's greed. I got nothing
against can toilet paper canceled well, canceled, cancels, cancels.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
A great template. The way they sort of structured that
episode was really good. Oh yeah, absolutely, what else did
that little bit country we didn't discuss? There was the
other one with the Christian rock card. I thought you
would have had that because you love the rock songs.
I do.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
That's true. Gray Dawn another classic. Like I said, there's
there's bits and pieces in every episode, but out yeah,
even in It's Christmas in Canada, I think is Yeah,
anytime you bring in that Scott, he's a dick, you've
got me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
For that part of it wasn't bad. It just wasn't
up to the standar of the rest of the season.
But yeah, season seven was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Season eight though, is what we're gonna be starting next week,
and the first episode of season eight is do you
want know what It's called?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Tell me?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
It is Good Times with Weapons. I believe this might
be the anime parody I think so where they get
their weapons turned them into like anime.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, into anime warriors. Yeah, I think It's got the song,
It's fat in Love.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Good times, great close up, Up, the Down, Steroid, The
Passion of the Jew Awesomo, you got f in the A,
The Jeffersons go Backs, Douche and turd something Walmart. This
way comes pre school?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Preschool?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Is that the one with I don't know which is
the one where like screw is a teacher.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, I think he gets screwed by the teacher. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, let's not victim play Yeah, yes, quest for ratings,
Stupid Spoiled whore video playset come with incredible gift a
lot of our episodes.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, good times ahead. I'm hope you guys are enjoying
the show.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
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