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Speaker 1 (00:14):
You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and
tonight I am joined today. I am joined by a
very special guest. We normally record these at nights, so
I have it all built in. Ladies and gentlemen, join
me and welcome to the show, the very lovely Aurora Wolf.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hi, everyone, it's nice to meet you. I am also
known as Shy College.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Girl Shy College Girl, so on Twitter it's ex Shy
college girl on chatterbait at Shy Underscore College Underscore Girl
from two pm Pacific to around eight pm Pacific Thursday
through Monday is when she streams, and if you can't
see her during those times, head on over to her
only fans at Shy Underscore College Underscore Girl.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Rora.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.
I'm really excited to be here. Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Let me start with the third rudest question you can
ask a girl. Number one is, obviously, are you pregnant?
Number two, how much do you weigh? I don't ask
those that's rude. Take that out of the equation altogether.
Let me ask you how old are you?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Aurora?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm twenty six. My birthday is February nineteenth, nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, is there more to that or you said it,
you had it, you had it? Well you look phenomenal,
by the way. Let me start just by saying that
to anyone listening right now, make sure you check out
her out across all of our channels and check out
the video if you are only listening on the show.

(01:44):
I start with the measurements, okay, And I don't know
what actual measurements are. I don't know what those numbers
stand for. I think one of them is tits. Maybe
I don't know. So on this show, we do our
own measurements. First of I'm like, you knew the answer
to those, Yeah, I do give me. I'm okay, not
yours necessarily, but tell me what they are.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm a thirty four double D and my waist is
actually pretty small. It's most likely, I think I think
it would be like thirty two inches around my waist.
And then because of my fat ass I have, it
gets so much bigger. I can't even tell you how
fat it is around because I haven't measured that in
a long time. I tried to get into normal modeling

(02:28):
for a minute, and that's the only reason. I know
those actual measurements, but I struggled with it and I
had to create a whole new alias and everything because
I couldn't be connected to Aurora Wolf in any way
because of the content that I put out. It turns
out that when you are making porn that normal, clean
modeling agencies actually won't want anything to do with you,

(02:48):
especially because they work with a lot of really big
brands like Nike and stuff. They don't want the controversy
of knowing that that model's butthole is all over the internet.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Your answer was a wonderful mouthful there. Let me just
say that. Let me ask the two other questions. Ken
is what your height is. Yes, I'm actually taller than
the average woman. I'm five foot seven almost. It's like
five foot six and a half, but I'm almost five seven.
And for that reason, like, I actually do have a
pretty thick weight to me. A lot of the people
that watch me describe me as them slick. I am

(03:22):
one hundred and seventy five pounds, so I'm actually like
pretty thick.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Like it's mostly good.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
All goes to my ass, to be honest, That's where
a lot of my weight is right there.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
By the way you look.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You look if you will get uncomfortable at any point
at all, police move or readjust however you need to.
You are currently in what looks to be a catcher
stance doing this interview. Amazing thigh muscles, by the way,
which we just saw there, folks, Let me ask for
my foot guys out there. I'm not a foot guy necessarily,

(04:00):
but I don't cast any judgment on them.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
How about shoe size?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I am a seven and a half wide, but I
usually size up to size eight because of that, because
no one makes wide shoes anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right, Yeah, I can't wear nikes because of that. Just
a lot of fun fact for everyone out there. Let
me ask what was your entrance into the adult entertainment industry,
whatever form it was, whether it was stripping and camming,
when did you first make that move from quote unquote
vanilla life too, I want to try something a little different,
And what was the reasoning behind that?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I actually got into this? It was chatterbait. I
started camming, and I was eighteen at the time, so
it was very new to me. But to be honest,
I already knew chatterbait existed. One out of three porn
users are actually women, Like, there are a lot of
women that watch porn out there.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm one of them.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I also watched porn, so there was times where I
would click on ads and it would take me to Chatterbait.
I started watching this girl's room and there was tons
of other people there. I was just in an ononomous
user on Chatterbait watching this woman, and I started wondering
to myself, like, Wow, what does it feel like to
be her? What is it like to be completely naked
in front of all of these people doing like a

(05:12):
normal broadcast to that of which you had seen on
twitch or YouTube, but your naked, you know, that's really
entertaining to me. So at that point, I was not
eighteen yet and I really wanted to make an account,
but no, so it's fresh in my mind, right. I
turn eighteen pretty recently as of that point, and I

(05:35):
had this like apartment. It was my first apartment ever.
So they raised the rent and I had like no
idea what I was going to do. I worked at
this nonprofit at the time, and I was working full time,
but I couldn't afford what they raised the rent to.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was worried.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I wouldn't be able to even put gas in my
car to get to work with how much they raised it.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
So to keep the apartment.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I thought about it, and I went on to Chatterbay.
I made an account, I created Shy College Girl, and
I started going live. My first week was not great.
I had to like watch other rooms to really figure
it out. But then after that, about week two, I
was on the front page almost every single time with
thousands of viewers watching me. And at this point I

(06:18):
actually was a non nude model that didn't show face.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Wow wait, waw wow, all right, all right, but to
me that sounds personality driven, like no fence and you know,
I'm sure you had a lovely room and whatever, but
a non nude model with no face. At that point,
I'm just looking at like the new Macy's catalog, like, oh,
this is wonderful clothes this person is wearing.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
This is nice. What are you doing to drive that?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
That ain't the Macy's catalog right there, folks, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Sorry, A lot of people would want to see my
face and I would still take my clothes off too,
but only for tokens. So and at first I was
really shy about it. So I like really didn't want to,
which is why I would go on with clothes. I
was one of the old only models on the site
at the time that actually wore clothes, and for that
reason it was really unique. It drove a lot of
attention to me, especially at that time. This would have

(07:08):
been like twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, which I also
broadcasted during that time as well. So because of that,
it was very unique, and you're right, a lot of
it was personality driven. I also had a very magnificent,
wonderful body at that time too. And then, don't forget
this is the most important thing. Ever, there's something about
that age, being eighteen that really drives large amounts of

(07:32):
people from all different groups. People your age, people older
than you. There's something about that eighteen year old fantasy
that really drives a.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Lot of people.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
And I've become very like, I take several different stances
on it because obviously, when you're eighteen, you were just
a kid, as was I, so I didn't understand how
common some things are. So there's like a light sight
and a dark side to that, believed or not.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
So let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I've been asking a lot of mainstream girls of this
question recently, and it's great one because I go back
and forth on it. You were tremendously helped by being
able to find this industry at eighteen years old and
you know, pay the rent and whatever, and it helped
you tremendously. There is, without a doubt though, a lot

(08:15):
of girls who do get into this industry eighteen nineteen
and are just not ready for it yet, do you
think And again, if people only listen to the brand
new Faces episodes, listen to some of the going deeper
ones as well, because it's interesting to hear this take
from women who have been in the industry for ten
years and whatever.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Else?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
What do you think is the age that should be
for people to be able to get into porn with
the minimum age?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, that is such a controversial question because when we're
talking about modeling of any different kind, and yes, you
are considered an adult model. If you are on of
porn Hub, Chatterbait, Stripchat, any of those other sides, you
are an adult model. You're also an independent contractor. But
to be fair, I do feel like a lot of
the older people do succeed unless you happen to be

(09:02):
young like me and have business experience, which I did.
I actually ran a very successful e commerce around that
same time, so I actually was like on that point.
But so for me, I was really professional. I was
very mature for my age and I did really well.
But everyone mature is at different ages, and I think
that's a really important thing to bring up. So at eighteen,

(09:22):
it is really young. But when you're eighteen to twenty one,
people have this thing in their head that you are
at your prime, right, so that kind of becomes a
little problematic within itself when you think about it. In
my opinion, women, I don't think there should be a prime.
I think your body is beautiful and you are beautiful
the way that you are, no matter what age that

(09:43):
you are at. And there are a lot of other
models that are anywhere between late twenties to forties even
fifties that do really well that just got into the industry,
So it's not like age is a huge number. There's
always going to be older people that would love a
more mature woman to watch, And there's actually people that
have not won wanted to watch me because of my handle,
even being shy college girl. That's a thing. Yeah, because

(10:06):
of how young it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Sounds right, Yeah, yeah, it's like you said there, it
doesn't matter necessarily when you get in. There are a
lot of people who get in who are still very successful.
And the idea behind that is there's an audience for everyone,
for every kind of niche or style or look or
appearance or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I've always held I've always held the theory that, like,
if you can go i don't know, a fight in
a war somewhere at eighteen, you should be allowed to
make porn.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But you're right, it's not wrong. That's the answer.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
It always comes back to, too when I talk to
these people, it's a maturity level. There's some eighteen year
olds who are a thousand times more organized and everything
else than I am in my own life, and there's
some fifty year olds who are fucking lost, just totally
completely lost with their life. And it's a real problem,
especially if you just put a number on it.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Because me and now it's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I agree, I still agree with you. I think maturity
level comes first. Honestly, now that I've been really thinking
about it, I was a very mature woman for my
age at eighteen. I was way more mature than all
the other girls, and I did really well. But even then,
I think nineteen is probably a better age get into
it because you already understand the adult world.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Sure, you will know how you.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Will be manipulated, You know what's going to happen. You
have a better stance, in my opinion, unlike when you're
eighteen and you're basically just thrown out their naked to
the wolves. I think that's a very scary experience. And
that is the experience that I also had. Okay, all right,
you're right, have you let me ask? So let me
get into some of the stuff here your room. What

(11:43):
is like the basic gist of if you're speaking to
an audience who hasn't been to your room before, what
are we going to experience when we get in there?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Are you playing games? Are we chatting about your day?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Are you answering responses just to the chat?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
What is the Aurora wolf?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
The I underscore college underscore a girl across all chat
platforms except for one, I think right one, you're a
little bit different. Oh with soda maybe I think it's dashes. Whatever,
don't worry.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
About it, look, go to the chatymore thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, what are the only fans at Shy Underscore College?
Underscore girl, So what is the experience like if I
come into your room.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's a really unique experience. And the way I do
my broadcasting is a lot like the older days on Chatterbait,
and a lot has changed now. So I am from
like almost the older generation of models, where you are
engaging with your viewers, where you are having conversation, You're
not only talking about yourself, but you're sharing your perspectives

(12:45):
with the world. You're giving them a piece of your personality,
and you're providing them a genuine human connection, which is
something that's become sort of lost within the whole aspect
of broadcasting or doing camming as a woman or a
man's really changed a lot. So as of now, you
see a lot of models that won't talk to you
unless you tip them. They sit there staring at their
phone a lot of the time or at the wall,

(13:07):
and they're not actually engaging with their viewers. Well, back
in the day before twenty nineteen on Chatterbay, that is
seventy five percent of the models you would watch, We're
ones that actually would talk with you, that would engage
with you, and I do all sorts of random things
during my life broadcasting. I did bring a guest online
with me a little while ago. I also like to bake,

(13:28):
like I've baked a few times, Like I do a
bunch of really interesting things at that too. I've also
used to game while I would go live. I stop
doing that. But really I'd just like to have a
good time, and I like to come and I'd love
to have an audience to share my body with and
to come at that with me. So it's more like
I try to view it like a healing experience too

(13:49):
for a lot of other people. So when I go
into a lot of private sessions, private shows, this is crazy.
I do wreaky and guided meditation with some of my
viewers as well, like long distance freeki, which also is
very healing. At that I also will balance the chakras
with a guided meditation, and I'll finish with some joy,
you know, jerk off instructions guide it, of course, and

(14:11):
oftentimes I just come, you know, I masturbate with them.
But at the same time, I want them to feel desired,
loved and need it, you know, not like a girlfriend experience,
but more like desired by this attractive woman that you
are playing with and give them a one on one
human connection where I do want to see them come.
I want to see them jerk off, and I love
and worship their cock. That's the vibe, and that is

(14:33):
what's missing in a lot of cam shows as of today.
I'd say about twenty five percent are more like the
shows that I do and less like the I don't
want to say, I don't want to talk badly on them,
but the poor models that I described earlier.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Sure, yeah, I've noticed that a lot too.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
You just brought up two really interesting questions I had
for you, and I'm like fighting to not lose them
in my head.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'll say it out loud.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
First Off, I want to talk about what it was
like prior to COVID, because it sounds like you were
camming prior to that. And I want to know about
the flood and what happened afterwards on whether or not
you liked it. The other question I had was, and
this is a dumb one. This is just for people
who are novices to like chat rooms and this and that.
How do you schedule private calls and this and that?

(15:22):
Can they occur in the middle of your chat, like
where you're just away for a while, and then you know,
how do you keep people.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
There holding on?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Or do you have to schedule things outside of your
normal camming time for like private sessions with people.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay, I'll get both of those. Let's do it, let's
wham them out. Back before twenty nineteen was obviously you're right,
pre pandemic, and the site was very different. The average
norm for a model was to actually engage with their viewers,
to be who they are, show their personality, turn it up,
do what you like doing, have fun. And as a

(16:00):
twenty twenty the economy, I seriously blame the economy because
you notice a massive difference, especially as the economy has
gotten worse. You're seeing way way more of this issue
where you see a bunch of models and sure, the
only way to learn is to watch other rooms, right,
So they watch these rooms and they think that this
is the norm where they sit there, do nothing, they
don't talk with people, they're bored, God, nothing's going on,

(16:22):
And that's what you see a lot of as of today.
So I think these newer models are watching these models
and having that perspective because that is what you see
a lot of on the first two pages is that
exactly more often than not. And so we have a
bunch of newer models here that it's like Monkey Sea
Monkey do right, even though the models that they actually
should be learning off of are the ones that engage

(16:42):
with their viewers the most. That is like amazing, that's
what you want to do, in my opinion, and another
part of like what made chatterbeak so good in twenty nineteen,
And there are rooms like this as of today that
do it like myself, so I'm not alone, but there's
just not many of us compared to the mass majority.
They often will how should I say, Like people want

(17:05):
a human connection with somebody. They want to watch you
and think, wow, I could run into you in the supermarket.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I could.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
You are real and you are an actual person. Like
you're not fake, you're not designer, you're not bougie, you're
not pretending to be someone you're not. You are an
actual human being, and I feel like I could meet
you and actually chill with you, you know. So that's
a part of the human connection that I was describing,
and that's what you would see a lot of in
twenty nineteen as well. Engage full content that's genuine, where

(17:34):
you provide a real deep connection and have deep conversations
with people. Ah, and that's what you don't see much
of as today. And I don't know if you wanted
to comment on.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
The I definitely, I mean, just that's so insightful because
again I can see it clearly, like it makes total
sense to me what you're saying. And I guess I
just never noticed it before. But that's really what it is.
There's a ton of great, high quality cameras of just
a girl doing nothing, just checking Twitter or just doing whatever.

(18:04):
And but you know what, let me ask, and this
is I'm just playing Devil's advocate in this way. Is
the market dictating that that content is quote unquote good enough?
Are these people making money just doing that? Because maybe
society's fucking attention span has degraded to the point where
we can't sit here and enjoy Aurora Wolf talking all

(18:27):
day because I'll just go see a tid or something like.
I don't know, maybe that's maybe maybe that's what society
is dictating now. And if so, that's very sad and
a deeper, more important conversation about something else. But so,
did you see a drop again, not negatively, like as
if it's your fault, But did you see a drop

(18:48):
off in traffic when the chat sites probably started to explode?
I assume it's the same as the only fans started
to explode during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, I did not experience a drop traffic, but there
were tons of models that did, so, don't get me wrong.
That really did happen, and that was very real. I
always got by fine during those rough periods of time
when there was a heavy traffic on the site. And
usually when I say heavy traffic, I'm not talking about viewers.
I'm actually talking about models. Because with Chatterbait specifically, you

(19:19):
were on their servers broadcasting. You were taking up their bandwidth,
not your computer. It used to be the other way around,
but they changed at some point, so as of then
you're actually dealing with a lag and problems and connection
issues with the server itself. For North America, that is
instead of you know, your device, your Internet, that's what
it becomes. And yeah, that was a really big issue

(19:42):
for a long time, and it only happens really during
the summer. And when that has happened, I purposefully, between
you and I, I will build up my regulars. I
will build up as high as I can, and I
will work as hard as I can in the off
season before summer happens, because, to tell you the truth,
there is problems with tra but during that time, and
the only thing that's going to get you through are

(20:03):
the relationships and viewers that you have already established, because
you will have struggles with that. So I do noticed
a small dip when I think about it, but it's
not as bad as what the other models experience because
it's like I feel grateful. It's really bad, like half
their audience is gone. They're lucky to have twenty five

(20:23):
percent of their average audience.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Wow, you might be the exact wrong person to ask
this question too, just totally the wrong person, because the
answer is probably going to be yeah, duh. Did you
have any anticipation that when you were going to get
into the adult film world that there would be so
much bullshit admin work that comes along with it. You

(20:46):
just described to me building up a season in advance
of sales that you know you're going to want to
complete later on. When I was eighteen and I had
a film school teacher tell me, hey, man, you're not
going to make it in this real industry, you should
think about shooting porn because I was just kind of
a flake.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Haha, got you. I am now kind of at a begame.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
When I had a teacher tell me that, I just
thought to myself, I'll dude, sound that's great. Fallback sounds
so easy. Just some hot chicks to shoot the stuff,
put it up there, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So maybe you did with your e commerce business beforehand,
did you anticipate that there would be just so much
bullshit background work that had to go behind you being
sexy as the product upfront?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
At first? No?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like I said, I was young in eighteen. I was
not prepared for what would happen, and I didn't expect
the success that I got from that.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Just to be honest, I really was ahead of my
like the game was ahead of me. Like I was
just dragging my ass along trying to pick up all
the pieces to figure it out. It was not easy
at first. I really struggled with that, especially because like
I don't use a manager, I don't have a studio,
I don't have anyone to help me.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
And I actually think that's the best way to go.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I do not recommend studios. They are awful, sure, but yeah,
it's better not to even have a manager at that
point unless you really need it, because they will be
also taking a large percentage of your income. You know.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, let me let me ask you there, studios are awful,
don't I don't disagree. I don't really have an opinion
either way. I've worked with a couple of people that
are in the studio system, like tied in directors and such,
and they're great and whatever. But why are you against
the studio system? Did you see something? Did you experience something,
or do you just look at it from the outside

(22:31):
and be like it's not something I would want to
be tied into.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yes, all of the above. Yes.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
So let me point it out, like this chatter Bait
and all these other massive campsites actually take fifty percent
of the model's earnings. Every token on average is say,
worth ten cents to the viewer of the buyer, right,
but once it's spent on that model, they only get
five cents. So fifty percent at that point actually goes
to chatterbait. Fifty percent goes to you. So right there,

(22:58):
you're already earning half of earnings right in a way
you made Let's say you made in a total of
tokens two hundred dollars, but you only get to keep
one hundred. That's how that works. So now imagine that
you are working with a studio and you already signed
a contract, and in the contract it's said usually on average,
it's anywhere between some I've seen for forty percent of

(23:24):
the revenue you earn goes to them. Often I see
somewhere between forty to twenty five percent. That's really common.
Somewhere between there goes to the studio in the contract
that you signed, and you are on a studio account,
You're not on an independent account. Every camsite allows you
to make a studio account for that same reason, and
it's also conjoined with.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
The studio, so they just take it.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, and they're allowed to, I guess, because you actually
sign away your rights at that point. And I've certain
I've seen and heard all sorts of whack things, like
there's some studios that won't let you keep anything other
than the outfits that people purchase for you, like on
your wish list. I've heard all sorts of weird stuff,
and yeah, you're being like robbed at that point when

(24:04):
you think about it, But no, go ahead?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
So what about like what about Okay, maybe the idea?
Maybe I'm confused on that a little bit. The main
I was thinking mainstream websites. Would you ever be interested
in shooting for any kind of like a MA like
just a flat rate? Hey, we'll give you this much
to come in Because I've heard a lot of cam people,
a lot of independent only fans people say no, I
wouldn't want to do that. I like being in complete

(24:26):
control of my situation. I think that's great. I agree,
But Aurora wolf slapped on the top of brawsers or
team skied or whatever it is, that's not a terrible advertisement.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Can we admit that?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So is that ever something you would consider if the
write offer ever came along? Or you completely hands off? Yes, okay, yes,
if the right.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Offer came along, it absolutely would. And I actually have
had legitimate porn agencies reach out to me on my
social media specifically asking me, hey, would you sign a
contract with us and make some important And every time
I ask them the same thing, I also vet them
and check them out before I agree to anything. I
want to know that this is a genuine agent that
actually works for this agency, and uh shit, man, it's

(25:13):
so rough.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay, here's the thing, this is what people don't think about.
You are acting. You are an actress. Like not like
with what I do, where I have genuine orgasms. I
really do squirret, I have a great time, and I
will even edge when I do it, just to make
that squirre it even bigger, really pop at the camera.
But you know, like when we're talking about porn, like
the really clean, edited scripted porn, it's all acting. It's

(25:38):
none of it's actually genuine. And I can see why.
I mean, imagine having no control. The script is set
and it's mainstream porn. That's usually what it is with me.
It's always mainstream porn. It's never BDSM or something that
I would actually enjoy because if it was, I would
say yes. So I always ask too, because maybe someday
that offer will come up where I can do BDSM,

(25:58):
because I will absolutely like, no questions asked. But usually
it's not. It's alway's mainstream and I would be acting
the entire way through, just like all the other actresses
and actors are. So it's less genuine at that point.
But you're right, I have I have contemplated it. But
because of that, no, and a lot of the porn
actors and actresses are actually going to independent sources like

(26:22):
this like Chatterbait or stripchat of pornhub because they're not
making a.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Lot right the the tower top people who command, you know,
the salaries, I mean, I've interviewed, I mean everyone at
this point. Violent Myers is you know, a big, huge
performer over two.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Million followers and this and that.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
She still shoots mainstream, but she most likely commands a
high salary.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And again, staying in the.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Public consciousness is valuable, especially when you have your own
product to sell. So let me ask you your only fans,
your shop on and Jesus on chatter Bait, what kind
of content do you have on there and what kind
of content are you looking to put on there going forward?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Ooh, I would love to ask some girl on girl.
I do have a lot of guy on guy on
there right now, and my viewers actually prefer me solo
for a lot of the time. So I like to
get creative. I make high quality content. It is considered amateur,
but honestly, when I say that it's so good, the editing,
the audio, the video, the resolution. It's so much better

(27:31):
than what you see with a lot of other amateur models. Technically, yes,
I do make amateur porn, but it's actually like very
high quality. It almost downgrades it. It's almost like saying
my cock is like five inches when it's really six
and a half.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Okay, yeah, that's what I do all the time too.
I tell everyone three that way. When I pull out
four and a half, Everyone's like, oh, whoa, that's not three.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's awesome, good job. True.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well, let me get into some of the likes and dislikes.
I like to run down the gamut here.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
So it said.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
It said, it's a question, I wrote, are you into women? Yes,
I assume the answers yes.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yes, I've always been bisexual, and I love plusy just
as much as I love cock. Thank god, because I
do get women that play with me too, and it's
so fun. I love like when they have a love
and so toy where I can control it and we'll
do like a private show in cam to cam and
we'll totally just go at it. We're making each other
square and it's so fucking it's awesome, dude, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Okay, all right, I have to get into that. So
you have other women who will have private shows with you,
then there can't be a ton There is okay of women, well,
just on chatterbait in general.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
What do we think?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Do we know what the gender breakdown is as far
as chatterbait goes?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Is it ninety five to five? What do you think?
I don't know. I'd say it up best we talk, Yeah,
look it up.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Let me know what you find, because I would say
that it's got to be somewhere around. I'm gonna say
eighty percent are just men, whether they're straight or bisexual.
And then I'm gonna go ahead and say about maybe
like eight to ten percent of that would most likely
be men that identify as women or possibly men just

(29:15):
pretending to be women, because you see that a lot too.
And then I would go ahead and say that extra
five percent is actual women that want to come with you,
because you will have models that'll come in your room too.
I've actually been recognized in public by other models.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Really, okay, I thought that I've heard that's not the
best look unless you've talked to the model first, is
that true? Like, if I'm I'm over here, I'm sexy
Matt one two three, and I'm going to go into
shy college girls room, Like, do I have to tell
you beforehand?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Hey? You mind if I stop in your room?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Is it look bad if I'm this hot girl over
here and I just stop in your room and whatever?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah? What is the politics of that?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
It is very political, So normally in a lot of rooms,
unless that woman is straight up by or digs chicks you,
it's interesting. If you're in there trying to bait people
into their room, that's actually a very negative thing, and
that really looks like you're what we call in the
industry poaching. It looks like you're poaching viewers, and that's
a very bad thing to do. But let's say it's

(30:17):
not like that. Maybe you're just having a dead on
conversation with the model. Some will still kick you out
of their room.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I think that is respectful and I like to have
women there, so I dig it as long as they
are respectful and chill. You know, if they are making
like rude comments, because I've seen a lot of that
from older models, especially when we're talking about the younger models.
They will actually harass and bully these girls. Sometimes I
use alt accounts, but they will do it. That's not cool.
It's like a hazing that I've seen a lot of. Yeah,

(30:46):
it's not cool.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Can you go in another room and like big up
another girl, be like, oh my god, you are so sexy?
Da da da da da da and try and get
other people going. I guess it depends on the model.
Some would still even look at that like get out
of my room, right, you like.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Get out of here? Yeah? Yeah, so I actually will.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I'll become friends with some of these models that come
into my room and they actually tip me too, so
they're actually you know, giving to my my my broadcast.
They'll give me like a thumbs up, which is so sweet.
I love reading those when I'm feeling down. They always
make me smile and it's like really sweet to read
those ratings. But you know what, the fact that it's
coming from a model means so much more. I just
had a model yesterday do this to me, and I

(31:27):
think we might even end up doing a collaboration together.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
It was so sweet.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But yeah, you know, so it's like when they're actually
giving to your your content and giving into your show
and supporting you. That's what I want, and that's actually
the reaction I get a lot of as of today,
so I'm grateful for it. I'm like, this is great,
and it's model supporting models. So I actually will shout
them out too, especially at the end of my broadcast,
but I'll ask what their schedule is, and I'll go

(31:51):
ahead and I'll tell them if you guys like a
more mature woman, or if you'd like to see a
couple you know, get it on, check out my friend
here at so and so. And I actually put in
their schedule in there so that way they know when
to watch the model. I totally do shout outs like that.
Not a lot of us do, so that's just one
of those things. I guess it's up to the model
at that point.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Has any new girl ever reached out to you and
been like, can you help me set my stuff up
in blahblah and have you yes all the time.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I've done it for years because I have so much experience.
I've rebuilt myself up from the bottom so many times.
And the one thing that I really wanted in the
industry when I first started was for there to be
support helpful models, people that actually want to help you.
That's what I wanted to see. That's not what I got.
It was very cutthroat. It was you fail or you
do good. Do it on your own. You're on your own, basically,

(32:41):
and it was very cutthroat. No one was going to
help you. There was barely any device online. As of today,
that's changed and there's entire communities of models that want
to help other models. And yes, I have helped them succeed.
And what's really cool is sometimes you know, I want
to support them and see them grow simply, you know,
because I know that they have rent to pay, they
have kids, mousea fee, they have a life that they

(33:02):
really need support with. And I see that. And you
see someone like drowning putting their hand out for help.
Are you gonna watch them drown? A lot of the
models will, but not all of us. Some of us
do want to see you grow. We will grab you,
pull you out of the water, dust you off, dry
you off, give you the advice that you need to succeed,
because a lot of them will keep repeating the same
mistakes and not know exactly what they're doing wrong, which

(33:25):
is not good I've seen a lot of that a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Wow, Yeah, that is It's weird. There's two different dynamics
that go on. It seems like between porn and chat.
And chat I have become I've started to really like
equate it more with stripping. It feels like because when
I see a lot of porn people, they're very supportive,
they're very like, hey, she's great, check her out and

(33:50):
reposting and this and that, and maybe you are positive
in the strip or the chat community as well. But
when I hear stories of strippers in the back like oh, yeah,
she brought a knife on Tuesday and started threat than
people and blah blah blah, that to me sounds a
little bit more like what chat is, where it's a
little more like, hey, stop trying to steal shit from me,
all right, don't come in here and be shitty and

(34:11):
whatever else. You stay in your own fucking room, right,
is that? And maybe you don't foster that kind of environment.
It sounds like yours is much more positive. But is
that kind of the gist of the chat community? Yes, okay, okay,
that is how strippers are. I was actually going to
go into stripping a little while ago, start, you're practicing
my floorwork, and now I just incorporate that into chatterbate

(34:33):
and I do fucking great. And what's interesting is I
see cam girls as virtual strippers. You can take them
into the private room, do a private show, or you know,
they can satisfy you in public if that's what they're about.
Some of them won't. Every cam room is different, and
I don't always agree with how they run their rooms.
But yeah, women can be really petty, they can be
cool to each other. And that's actually how it was

(34:55):
when I first joined. It was just like strippers. It's
changed a lot. There's so much cam shows on the
market that it's actually become extremely flooded and it's watered
down like crazy right now. And that's one of the
things I mentioned earlier, the point I was getting to
where there's way too many models on the site and
they're not like monkey see, Monkey do. No one's actually
putting on a genuine broadcast and.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Having a good time. These women like don't want to
be there. They don't want to see you play with yourself,
they don't want to see your dick. They just need
the tokens, probably just to pay some bills. And it's
a really sad thing.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I see the sadness in their eyes when their menu
as things that they don't even want to do. That's
like the biggest key to success for any of the
people watching this right now. If you make a menu
on the campsite, you will need a menu. Only make
it things that you actually want to do. Never put
something on there that a lot of other people want
to see that you're not really too crazy about, because

(35:50):
it will grow on you and that dislike will definitely
wigh heavy on you, and you will be that model
with the pain in her eyes.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Really, yeah, that's sad. It's a sad one.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Let me get back to some of my likes and dislikes.
That's you, really you? Uh my suggestion? And I got
yelled at by a established porn star after the interview,
who let me know, nobody likes fucking unsolicited opinions. That
was really rude of her because she spent an hour
bitching about how all these young girls just want to

(36:22):
show up and no one wants to work with me
anyway anyway, whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Fucker, that's crazy. Dude, Yeah, dude, you.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Screamed at me for an hour about how no one
wants to work with her anymore. And I said afterwards,
I know you have this great catalog and you talk
about these new girls come on and you directed. Have
you jumped back into directing? And she goes nobody likes
unsolicited opinions. I said, all right, fuck me, then never mind?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Have you have you?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You are incredibly knowledgeable on this, And I'm not just
blown smoke here. I would just be like, you're really smart. No, no, no,
I actually think you are really really like incredible with this.
Have you thought about putting a boot camp together, Camgirl
boot camp, not even like in person, put together create
like an only fans or a private Patreon or something
like that. Do the lessons you already have the tech stuff,

(37:10):
you know how to do that, you're comfortable in front
of a camera. It's just something to consider. Hey, this
is why it's important to have a fucking link tree. Hey,
this is why you know it's important to get all
your blah blah blah. Just a suggestion. I'm sure there's
some out there, but there's no one I've spoken to
that's quite as knowledgeable as it seems like you are
with a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It's so true. And you know what, I'll tell you
straight off the bat. So many of these models I
have helped have dead ass told me, you need a
charge for this. You need to put a service out
there where you can help these girls, because like right now,
you're not really out there. I mean, sure, you'll snag
a few hands, you know, whenever you see someone who
needs help, you'll help them, but you're not really out

(37:48):
there doing that. You know, you're not putting yourself out there,
you're not advertising it. And a lot of them have
told me that's what I should do, and I have
thought about it.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, it's I mean six episodes to charge five bucks
each or whatever it is, you know, twenty five for
the whole set. I don't even know put it together though.
I think you would actually be pretty successful at that,
because there are a lot of people who want to
jump in and a lot of people who look at
it and go like, I just don't understand why I'm
not being said I'm high and I want to put

(38:18):
in the effort.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I just don't know what to do. That's at you.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah, And that's where I got to say, like,
if I was to do this, I would actually help
people one on one because everyone does things a little differently.
Everyone has their own style, right, So that's what I
would do personally. I think having courses would be good too,
But you know, like you said, everyone is a little
different and that one person might be doing other things
wrong that are not mentioned in those courses.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
I'm just saying, script it out, and you should definitely
script that out because I think, thank.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You, that would help a lot of people, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think it would let me all right, let me
get back to some of the likes and dislikes here.
Let's get into the come related section of my chart.
Here are you into face?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah? I like facials dripping out of my pussy the most.
I have a massive breeding fetish. The women in my
family have a low fertility rate.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Thank god. Yeah, I love it. I do that.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I mean, just cross off. Do you like cream pies?
Off of my list? I assume that is a yes.
Then based on your answer, how about swallowing or we
swallower at all or we dead ass?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I spit?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, I'm spitted. I respect that girl who knows what
she likes and what she doesn't like. What is our
current relationship with.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Anal oh anal. I love anal, but I like some
love making anal. I like to centrally fuck myself nice
and deep. I don't like the rough anal. I'm not
too fond on that. My ass was too fucking tight, man,
it'll tear. I'm just there with it. And that's a
request I get a lot of. It's the rough, hate

(39:53):
fucking anal, and I just don't do that. Straight up.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'm glad you brought that up. What's the aside from that? Then?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Maybe the that's not even the worst. What's the worst
within the realm of legality? What's the worst request you get?
Maybe you'll still.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Even do it, but you just kind of like, ugh.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
No, lately my dms are filled with this request and
I actually won't do it. I mean, fuck, dude, you'd
have to pay me so much to see me do
something like this, and it's pea content.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Really Okay, Okay, I'm not a pea guy at all.
My former co host we used to end every major
porn star interview with h He would just casually ask, so,
are you into piss or not?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
And it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
It was cute at the end to have a nice
conversation with these ladies and at the end ask them,
so you drink piss or what? I am not into
piss at all, It's not my thing, but it does
feel like the cleanest of all of the gross kind
of content, right, Like it's on that kind of edge.
Let me ask, would you not be pissed on? Or

(40:54):
would say they wanted to see you piss on some
guy and just say you had a guy that you
were able to shoot content whatever? Blah blah blah. Are
you comfortable with that? Are you not comfortable being pissed on?
Are you not comfortable with pissing? The equation whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Hmmm, I'd rather be pissed on and shit on.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Sure, Yeah, I don't know, dude. I guess I would
be more comfortable peeing on someone over being peed on myself.
Which is an interesting conversation. I think it's like some
people are really into that. It sounds degrading to me,
but a whatever to each their own. Man, some people
are really into the degration side of b DSM too.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Sure, are you not into that?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Then? Yours is more the actual tying, Like what about
the bondage type thing?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Are you into? Do you like bondage. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
And for me, I am a switch, so I go
back and forth between dominant submissive. I am slightly more dominant.
Doesn't mean I can't go into the submissive role at
any point, but I'd say I'm about sixty percent dominant
when it comes to that scale ratio. And for me,
I prefer to be a loving domin I want to
be dominant, but guide and exactly how I would be
touching them, how I would pleasure them in that moment,

(42:03):
and I even want them to close their eyes and
pretend that I'm there with them by their stipe doing it.
And for me, it's like I will, like there are
times where I do get asked, can you do like
a kind of like a sassy, mean girl vibe? And
I totally will, and I find it to be therapeutic.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Actually, what about what is your favorite request to get
for a custom or for a private whatever it is?
What is like when you're like, yes, fuck, yes, you're
knock that one out today?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Public play?

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Okay, okay, well, I mean it's pretty obvious by the
shot we're at here.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You like the public stuff, do you? I do? I
love it? Yeah? Now why is that? What do you
get out of that?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Is there a okay, okay, hold on, let me jump
back one step.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
There was a breathing fetish, you said there, right.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Is that what you Okay, so you had a breathing
You have a breeding fetish?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Right now? Where does your breeding fetish stem from?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
And then I want to say, if that stems from
the same place as your outdoor type thing. Is it
like a fear of getting pregnant? Is it an ownership thing?
Is it a what does the breeding come from? And
then does the outside stuff also come from? Like, oh,
we could get caught. This is taboo, not supposed to
do this.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
It's risky. Yeah, yes, Oh my god, you just put
it together. I've never thought of that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Okay, So it is really risky, and I love that
risk that you take because you can get caught. I
have been caught outside. My neighbors have seen me fingering
myself a good number of times.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I have.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
They've all seen me butt naked, even I don't even
know how they perceive me. No one's ever brought it up.
I'm pretty cool with my neighbors, thank god, because it
would be quite the case if they weren't. Uh, thank
fucking god. Uh so there's that, And yeah, I have
been caught a number of times, a whole load of times.
Speaking of loads, Yeah, I definitely think it's risky when
you come deep inside me. Absolutely, I fucking think it's

(43:54):
risky as hell. And it gives me like this rush,
like a dopamine rush, And there's something about it that
just makes it so much easier for me to come
after I've been nutted in. There's something about it. God,
it's like this crazy dopamine rush, I swear to God,
like there should be studies. There might already be studies
on how that affects women's mental health in a positive way.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It's probably something primal or genetic. You know, you're just
quote unquote you know, creating life with this. There's a
you know, hahuh something or you know the idea of
it in your head.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I literally don't know. I've never been creampied myself personally,
so I wouldn't be able to tell you what that
feels like. What Let me ask you, what is your
favorite sexual position? Do you have one?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, doggy style. I get so much tighter when you
bend me over. Oh it is so good, And I
love the feeling of my pussy stretching around a cock.
It is so incredibly tight. So when I see a
man with a thick cock, it drives me crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh my god, are you are you a size queen
at all? Or I mean kind of regular size penis
to do it for you? Yeah, regular size cock can
do it for me. I'm quite realistic, you know. Sure,
Like two percent of men are hung like a horse,
and the odds of that man that I'm about to
sleep with when I haven't seen his cock or maybe
I have. I often have fuck buddies and you know,

(45:17):
they've all seen my content before I fucked them, you know,
So there's that. But you know what, like, it's just
unrealistic in my opinion to expect the only cock that
you will fuck is like eight inches plus when the
average man is about six and a half roughly around,
you know.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
So, yeah, that does it for me. Honestly, your pussy
is almost only so long, you know, sure?

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Yeah, no, I mean I wouldn't mind pussy's quite long.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Let me, uh, let me what's your least favorite sexual position?
What's something when if a guy were like, hey, let's
try this, you would just be like, oh.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I gotta say the wheelbarrow or the one where I
don't like reverse cowgirl very much. Yeah, that's probably the
one I hate the most, right there, it's reverse cow Girl.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Number one answer amongst mainstream performers I've interviewed is reverse Cowgirl. Yeah,
I just it seems and you know what, I don't
even love it either. It just it's like, I don't know, Yeah,
I can look at your ass, but let's do doggy
for that, or I don't know, it just seems like
a weird I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, Felix looking at someone's back, I get you, man.
You want to see their face, right, you want to
see the expressions on their face? Yes, yeah, I get
you in the same way.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Uh. What is a kinker fetish?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
You thought coming into this you'd be like, I don't
think i'd ever get into that old you quote unquote,
which I mean you jumped in at eighteen, So there's
a real weird there's not much of an old U.
It almost feels like it almost feels like this is
you all along, kind of coming out of your shell.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Right, I love you.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
What is a kinkrafetish that you thought, maybe like I
would never be into that and then you did it
or you tried it, or you did whatever, and you go.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It's kind of fun. I don't dislike that come.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Eating instructions and enjoy jerk off instructions.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Jerk off instructions I've always understood. I don't know. Again.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
My theory is always as long as there's no dogs
or kids in the room, I don't give a shit
what anyone does. Go ahead, do you, that's your choice.
But the come eating thing, guys just want to be
told to eat their own cum. Is that essentially the
idea behind that? And is this a dom thing?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
What is it? Okay?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yes, I think it's a I think it's part way
between control and humiliation, like a form of degration. That's
how I view it with these men, that's typically what
it is.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I'm sure everyone's a little different. There's going to be
people that don't really like to see it in a
degrading way, more of a sentual way, because there's always
going to be different takes, different perspectives. Right, So not
everyone is the same, but mass majority I do see
that it is often in a degrading like way.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Okay, interesting, yeah, right, we are going to actually wrap
this one up. Roar. You've been phenomenal to talk to today,
and I would encourage anyone who wants to talk more
to her to head on over to Chatterbait and make
sure you follow her. They're at Shy Underscore College Underscore Girl.
Her schedule is generally Thursdays to Mondays two pm Pacific

(48:18):
time to eight pm Pacific time around there. You never know,
maybe she'll pop on another time and maybe there's a
special maybe who knows, I don't know. If you can't
see her live, make sure you follow her on Twitter
at ex Shy College Girl, and most importantly, sign up
for the only Fans at Shy Underscore College. Underscore Girl
links to everything in the episode description. Please make sure

(48:41):
you check her out. Because independent content creators no longer
create oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Because of that.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
That's why okay, independent content creators can't make content if
they can't support that content. So make sure we are
supporting these ladies in all of their endeavors. Aurora Wolf,
thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Oh man, thank you so much for having me here.
I had so much fun. You are awesome. I had
a lot of fun. Too, and I will look forward

(49:08):
to your program going forward. Aurora Wolfe's masterclass on Chatterbait.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
You so cool. Thanks for coming on with me today.
I really appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate
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