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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Serenity Cox my guest tonight. You know exactly where you
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Serenity. Is it a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a pleasure to meet you as well. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So I was driving in the car with my wife
earlier and I was like, should I just hit her
with some dumb fucking.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Joke right off the bat?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And I was going to say, did you think it
was fate that you became a porn star with the
last named Cox? And I was like, well, she'll definitely
get it, but it's not funny. So I let me
start and ask you, how did you initially get into
the adult entertainment industry in whatever form that was, whether
it was camming first or going right into scenes only fans,
(01:12):
whatever you wanted to do. What was the thing that
you jumped into where you crossed the line from vanilla
to the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's so hard for me to answer that in a
concise way. I tend to get really wordy because it
was a very long journey with a lot of steps
to it. It's a journey I took with my husband
and it all started out with our exploring a hot
wife dynamic in.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Our marriage, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
One thing led to another and eventually our content creation
started was just sharing videos of our journey, and it
started very low key. It started on the first flat
platform we used was fet life, and then the second
platform used was porn Hub. It was all just free
stuff because we'd really we weren't in it to make money.
We just wanted to share. We were so excited genuinely
(02:05):
for our own like the shit that we were doing,
we wanted other people to see it, so we were
just like, this is great, let's put it out there.
So it was just us having a blast and posting footage.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Of it on the internet.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And then a few years later it became actually like
a conscious like kind of business. Still we're just filming
our fucking around in our journey that we're having part
of my language.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But yeah, that's how it started. It was just making
videos of our journey.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So if this gets too personal, please stop me. Can
I ask did you come into your marriage in a
swinger open relationship type of situation. This is I've been
interviewing so many performers who started as hot wife or
swinger lifestyle, and I find it so fascinating because I've
been with my wife for almost twenty years now.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We met when we were like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm thirty eight, so i have no concept of, like,
you know, spreading out. I've never even, like, you know,
been one of those Oh yeah, I went around fucking college.
Now I've been with my wife the whole time. Was
it something you went into your relationship with knowing this
was the idea? Was it something that came up later
where it was almost like we need to spice this
(03:13):
up in a positive or negative way? What was the
turn for you guys?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Again, it was just very like we went into our
relationship totally regular monogamous.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I would say regular.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We were always very maybe adventurous in our sex life,
but we were monogamous.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It was just the two of us.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It wasn't until later in our relationship that we decided
to take a path into non monogamy and trying out
new things.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, and I tried to Probably every interview I've done
it has a different timeline.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They're like years, I thought I have this.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
After seven I don't even remember, but there was a
like it was a gradual change where our you know,
are just between the two of us sex life started
involving a lot of like worldplay about involving other people
and a lot of fantasy talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Involving other people.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And it became very apparent that, like my husband had
these strong turn ons with involving me and other men,
which I thought was really cool. I'd never even heard
of that kind of thing before my relationship with him,
and I don't even think he really knew until we
did our you know, research together that there was a
term for it, hot wife. So we kind of just
explored these themes that both of us found exciting just
(04:28):
in our it's just in our you know, solo bedroom time.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We started exploring them.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Together, and you know, over the years, like it was
years and years, and then over the years we just
kind of got a little bit more bold and more
confident in our own relationship and thought, let's just do this,
like there's nothing to lose here.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We're both you know.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So well connected and so confident and in our relationship
that you know, let's just go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So we just did.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Let me Okay, there was one thing you said in
there that that got me interested. And let me say,
first off, you don't have to tell me his actual
job is your husband the general manager of a baseball team?
Because I'm just wondering. You have the coolest layout I've
ever had on this show. As my camera goes blurry,
don't worry, my face isn't on this. What is what
is going on there?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Can I ask that?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, in another hour or so, the Blue Jays are playing,
so we booked one of the hotel rooms that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Overlook the field.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So, yeah, the game isn't on yet, but.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean that's an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, so you said something in there you were like,
fuck it, what do we have to lose? I have
read a few interviews with you where your husband is
blurred in it?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Was there any concern about jobs or anything like? Because
the fun thing to say is there's nothing to lose
as I put all of my body parts on the
internet for people to see, and then the other reality
of it, potentially there's things to lose over here.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Was there any like concern or fear about that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think I said I meant that about our relationship.
Nothing to lose in content. We started with our lifestyle,
so there was nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
We didn't feel there was anything to lose in our
relationship because we were just so happy and it was
a together thing. There definitely was some concern when we
started posting online, and we took probably we were a
bit naive in the beginning. We took some precautions like
early early content, and those people who've been following me
for a while know that I used to wear masks
(06:29):
and or have like our faces not in it, and
it was very like nobody knew we were doing this,
but it was like the time and the genre, like
it just became really popular really quickly, and then we
made a conscious decision that I was going to show
my face. And so at first when I started doing that,
(06:50):
we like GEO blocked our province and like we you know,
we're still a bit cautious about it. We weren't sure
how people would react. But over time, like people did
find out, and we made the decision to just lean
into it because really we were just two happy people
(07:10):
who who.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Liked sharing what we were doing on the internet.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And luckily it didn't you know, like I know, not
every story is like the fairy tale that we had
before us, Like we never had.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Any any issues.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There's a bit of like drama at my workplace when
people first found out. There was a bit of a shock,
but it's moved over fairly quickly, and you know, at
the end of the day, I was it didn't change
who I was at work with my friends and my family.
It's not like it didn't change who I was as
you know, as a person, and you know, has had
some interesting discussions with a lot of people who I
(07:44):
normally wouldn't have those discussions with.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But it was kind of it was just a way
of kind of like.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So part of what we were doing was even though yeah,
it was just for a turn on for us and
an exhibitionist thing, it was also I really liked the
idea of normalizing relationships that were sort of outside the
box or the society's norms.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So if we.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Were confident enough to do that in videos, I thought
we should be confident enough to explain ourselves and talk
about our passions with the people in our lives. So
we did that, and we took that opportunity, which is
a lot harder than putting it out there for faceless
people on the internet.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But in the end, like it was, it was very healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That yeah, yeah, that is that's a big jump for
me personally. The thought of that is, you know, terrifying.
Here show all of your miniscule parts to everybody in
the world. The one thing you said, there was drama
there at your other job. I'm only asking this because
you have talked about that other job before, and it
kind of leads into another part of the discussion. What
was that other job? Do you still discuss just what
(08:55):
it was, not where it was or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I was a a nurse for most
most of my life.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I was an immersed a nurse in the emergency department
and yeah, just until last year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's so creat My wife and I are in the
middle of an er watch for the first time and
I the show.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We are ever CEO the show? We are yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
We're not just standing outside of the hospital like watching
the people go in.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But it looks fucking insane. We watched the pit too.
What is that on HBO? That one's really good too.
Have you seen that?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh it's real good. HBO Max throw that on, but
it looks fucking hectic and insane. So that leads me
into my next question. They I've seen a bunch of
articles recently and again I understand this is not the
same concept. I'll show you how I'm going to tie
it together. I read an article recently about how, like
the number one profession where there's cheating going on is
(09:56):
now nursing. It used to be like cops and firemen,
and now it's nursing. What is it about nursing that
maybe doesn't work with monogamy?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Is that a thing? Or no?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Did you see that? Did you get hit on by
guys before you were in this open relationship?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
In my experience, I didn't. I didn't find that was
to be true in my in my really okay, I
never I never cheated on my husband.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I mean, like I without consent. Sure, not without him
encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I also never mixed my my lifestyle and hobby of
what my husband and I did with my workplace. And
that was just the kind of person I was. It
may have been happening, but I.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Wasn't aware of it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So I don't know, Like none of my friends in
the nursing profession, were you know, having affairs and cheating that.
But I mean there's there's a lot of there's a
lot of nurses out there, so true.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Sure, well let's I mean, let's let's play around with
the psychology of it, maybe a little bit. You're seeing
really tragic things all day, you can see, I mean,
you're seeing positive things as well, somebody getting better at life,
being saved, this and that. But you're watching people who
pass away or a kid who comes in with an injury,
and this and that, and then maybe mister hot doctor
over there is the shoulder for you to really like
(11:25):
kind of let it go on, and then you know,
maybe he looks like he's got okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That sense, I will say because with my colleagues, I've
formed some very strong bonds, and a lot of it
is around the you know, like trauma bonding. It's like
around the things you see that other people in your
life don't necessarily see or or don't quite get the
same way. So there is a sense I've made strong
friendships around that and had some really intense moments around that,
(11:54):
but in a non sexual way. So I can see
how others would sure bring that together in a in
asexual way as well.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like it that makes sense. You have a point.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
There are two people I cannot make laugh in the world.
There's a lot of other people, but there's two specific
groups of people, and it's dominatrixes and nurses. I just
bomb every time. I don't know why. You guys are
too serious, too smart to deal with my stupidity. I
respect that. I understand the world needs those people. So
thank you for being a nurse for all of those
years and saving lives. I have some swinger questions for you, right,
(12:31):
and they might seem silly, but I'm coming at this
from the street level person. I have, like I said,
no understanding, and I really want to relay to people
like it's maybe there are misconceptions here or there. Can
I ask, are there any major misconceptions about the hot
wife lifestyle? And how does hot wifing differ from any
(12:53):
other type of swing? Are there different types of swinger lifestyles.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I'll start by saying I'm not an.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Expert in well, we'll do it all in your experience,
experience perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I will say that in my experience, I've met many
couples who have various types of open relationships and consensual,
non monogamous relationships, And it seems to me that each
relationship is it may have.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Similar dynamics, but nobody's exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Everyone has different rules, everyone has different comfort levels, everyone
has slightly different dynamics.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And there's a whole spectrum.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Of swinging couples and hot wife couples and what they
do or don't do.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So what was the question?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I asked too many questions at once. I made a
nurse's life. I ask too many questions at once, and
they just stack up. Essentially, are there any misconceptions from
what you've seen? Like have you ever told anybody that?
And they're almost like, oh my god, that's disgusting. You
just let yourself get gang bang by fifty guys every night,
And you're like, well, no, it's not quite like that.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
There's definitely misconceptions the person people see when they watch
my content. For example, people only see me in these
scenarios and just assume that it's like every single day
when really it's I mean, it's actually quite frequent, but
(14:23):
but it's not, you know, it's not like ninety percent
of my life is being a hot wife, that's just
you know, a pastime, like some people you know, play
hockey and.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I do this.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A misconception also, one misconception that a lot of just
people in my personal life might have had when they
first found out this what we're doing, is that it's
it goes both ways. Some people think, you know, it's
one person pressuring the other person to do something. So
like my husband, you know, is you know, pushing me
(14:57):
to have sex with other men, you know, for his enjoyment,
And other people think that it's me, my poor husband,
I'm out, you know, sleeping with all these men, when
really it's like for us anyway, it was years and
years of just like talking and growing together and making
decisions about what we were going to do and what
you know excited us, and we did this together.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And it's it's a little bit tricky with all life
because it's kind of one.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Sided from an outside perspective because the woman is going
and having all these experiences and the husband isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
So it does appear a little bit one sided. So
there can be a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Of misconceptions about that when really, you know, my enjoyment
is coming from the experiences and his enjoyment is coming from,
you know, seeing me having these experiences or bringing the
stories home to him, and then the moments.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That we have afterwards.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So there is a lot of misconceptions about the drive
behind those.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Kind of relationships, you know, and it's tough for people
to see from the outside. But the relationships, the ones
you described in the middle there that are not yours,
the dominant woman telling the guy I'm gonna go get fucked,
or the guy being like, you have to go do this,
but they don't last unless they're like crazy, abusive and
(16:13):
codependent and all this. And but those aren't like real
lasting relationships. You're not going to find a couple who
are ten years into the swinger lifestyle and the chicks like,
I don't really like this that much ever, it just
I don't. That is a misconception, Like it seems like
if you were in this and everyone's happy, then this
is maybe how you were supposed to be, Like, I
(16:34):
don't understand why anyone comments on anybody else's happiness.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's just me going off on a rant there. So
I apologize.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Every beautiful thing about human beings is where you know,
even though we're all the same species, we're also very
different and we all, you know, we're allowed to have
different types of relationships and what works for one person
it doesn't have to work for somebody else. As long
as we're happy and you found that person who has
the same you know, path to happiness as you do.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's it's fun. We can all have our different you
know paths and sure sure.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Two last questions about swinger lifestyle. Number one, do you
guys have rules set up or is it just a
constant communication like is there something you know not to
bring to him because he doesn't he's not into this.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yes, and yes, so we do have some rules for example,
like there's certain things that we're not into. Some hot
wife couples are into get us thrill out of a
little bit of degradation or cooking my personal relationship, or
we're not into that. I don't you know, make a
big scene about like how much better another guy is
than my husband and or like deny my husband. And
(17:43):
some people are like that and they both really love
it and get off on it, and that's cool, but
that's just for us.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
We don't do that.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Another thing is we're not polyamorous. So as many guys
as I you know, can go out and see or
even befriend, it doesn't turn into a romantic thing. And
I don't have like a romantic relationship with other guys
who are not my husband. It's more just like a fun,
free and sexual kind of relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Those all these things across that kind of line. That's
obviously a hard rule that we have.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That just brought up another question. So two more questions
about the swinger lifestyle. This one here is have you
had to push people away after the fact, either men
or women or anything in this life? And I apologize,
Is your husband allowed to do you guys go both ways?
Is it just about the enjoyment he has watching you
(18:39):
not go both ways? And you know what I meant, like,
is he allowed to be with women as well?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
For sure he is. He hasn't gone out and had
sex with other women. He's like, we've been in group
situations where he's like had you know, like low jobs
or like sexy contact with other women, but he hasn't
actually like like gone out way I do it and
like had sex with another woman. I would be totally
cool with it if he did, but we just haven't.
(19:05):
And maybe it will in the future, but at this point.
It just hasn't been something that we've jud.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Sure that makes almost this last question a little bit moot,
But I always love asking this to people in the lifestyle.
Has any one of you ever it would be better
if he was also engaging with women? But have either
of you ever taken a bullet for the other one?
I love the concept of a swinger couple meeting a
couple and the guy in that other couple is like gorgeous,
(19:34):
and the girls like and the wife's like, look, you're
gonna have to You're gonna have to do that, okay,
or vice versa. You know, maybe the guy is looks
like me and the woman there is like this, yuck,
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Has anyone ever had to take a bullet?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Have you ever been like, like, I'm not saying it
would go you would be you know, I don't want
to do that. But has he been like, yeoh, you
should be with that guy and you've been a little
bit like, eh, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, I can't say that you've had situation.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, I can see.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, it's a good question, but no, it doesn't really
apply to us.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The experiences that we've had okay, all right, fair enough,
fair enough, let me get into some of your content.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here. You are, I believe, still a Vixen girl.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Damn yes, what is I interviewed someone the other day
who her first entrance into this She goes to Brassers
contact at me, and I'm just thinking of all the
performers out there who try and put together they're only
fans and this and that, and this beautiful girl over here.
Brasers just gives her a call and goes, hey, do
you want to like do real big time stuff. So
as I'm looking at your list of things you've done,
(20:47):
which I do a little game called stat check, we'll
go to that in a little bit. I mean it's
all Vixen sites. That was your jump into the mainstream, right,
Like I assume you produced a lot of your own
content for a while and then the jump into mainstream or.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, So I my main my main content is still
my own content.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Sure, very Vixen. I love you, Vixen.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I'm still I'm under contract with Vixen as well, and
that's my professional my professional work. But you know, there's
the two branches of the adult industry. There's the amateur
or you know, independent content creators and there, and there's
the professional studio house uh big time productions, right, I
(21:32):
do both. So my main thing that I do on
a day to day basis is my only fans, my
port and hub, my my husband and I making our
own content, ruing around with friends, just having a good time,
going to ball games, you know, making content out of it,
and like that's like, that's that's our joy, that's what
we do. Vixen came Uplong I guess two years ago now,
(21:57):
and I had no idea because I didn't really I
didn't know anything about porn. I just knew that like
our you know, our own stuff that we do, and
like I didn't know mainstream porn. And Vixen comes along
and says like, hey, we have this new channel it's
called Milfie and would you be interested in in like
doing like production porn. And at first I was just like, like,
(22:20):
who who's Vixen? When really like they're like.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like, who's bank Bros. I've never heard of these brothers before. Yeah, okay, yes,
ye yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So they came because I obviously it makes sense for
them to seek it because independent OnlyFans, amateur stuff is
so big, right, now and a lot of these girls
have such big followings. It makes sense for these you know,
mainstream companies to get those girls so they can get
their audiences, right. So I'm sure like they were looking
to see who's doing what, and anyway, I guess they
(22:50):
came across me, reached out, and then several months later, I,
you know, I gave them a shot. I had no
interest in doing you know, professional porn because I was like,
I don't do acting like I want. I'm showing my
real life. I'm showing you know what I do. I'm
not an actor. But they were so sweet. They were
so absolutely sweet, and they made this hot white scene
(23:12):
for me to do, and like Kingen Cross wrote this
scrip and directed it and it was just very simple,
but it was something that I was familiar with, something
that I was comfortable with, and so I went out
to LA and I shot this like twenty twenty three
and it was so much fun. And then after that,
like you know, I did a few more and then
they signed me and now I do you know, ten
(23:35):
scenes a year or something, and we kind of incorporated
that into our own hot Wife dynamic because it was
the first time that I that I.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Was doing something without my husband.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I mean, I've had, you know, pressure, but it was
the first time I've done something you know, content or
video related without him, because he films everything, edits everything,
like we worked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Together as a team, and so I was.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I wasn't sure how that would work, but he was like,
this is actually really exciting because you know, we can
think about it, like I go on these dates and
I come home and I tell him all about it,
and he's like, it's like, you're going on these dates,
but only you're going out to like these fantasy scenarios
that Vixen can write for you and having these experiences
that you wouldn't necessarily have, you know, with guys you
(24:24):
know here in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I look, but you know, it was it's just like
these things.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And then I, you know, I come back to him
and I tell them all about my experiences on set
and that feeds into our dynamic that we love. So
I do that, but I still also do my my
independent stuff at the same time.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Not that I think you're going to like the bad
part of town to film scenes, but there's also it's safer.
I would think for the most part, you hear some
bad stories about mainstream sets. But for the most part,
it's also safer. It's like you're going into an environment
with a professional. If you were my wife, I'm into
this and I'm sending you out, I go, oh, this
is the best way for her not to be killed
in a hotel room or something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So exactly, like some of these scenarios that I've been
able to like act out or like you know, do
on a Vixen set are things.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
That you know. It's because sometimes you have a fantasy
but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Really make sense in reality because a, yeah, it's not
safe or it's not you know, something that you can
make happen in a way that makes sense. But you know,
in a set you can and you can live out
these fantasies and then bring it home in.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
A controlled and safe way.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And Vixen were just That's the thing I learned was
like they're so wonderful to their performers, Like.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
They'll play me out there, they take care of me.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They'll like take me out to dinner and ask me
to make sure that you know the debrief afterwards, make
sure that I'm comfortable and I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And it just.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Felt so you know nice, and I had no idea
before before I met them.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And then when I talk to other people the like
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Most people, they do a lot of other stuff and
then they get to the you know, companies like Vixen.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't know you literally, I mean you literally.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
This starts out at I think Vixen shoots the most
beautiful stuff. Now that's not everybody's preference, that's not even
necessarily my preference. But you can't say the color isn't beautiful,
the quality isn't beautiful, the camera, I mean everything works.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Me.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm a gritty, dirty scumbag. I like the middle of
the road stuff. But yeah, I mean you can't start
on like a better company than that. So congratulations on that.
That is awesome. That is hard work, and you're right.
I never knew this until I started doing this show.
But I also do another kind of side show called
(26:39):
Brand New Faces, where I bring on new girls who
are trying to get into the industry and kind of
tell them what I know, get their story, see if
they're really like into this. And through doing this, I
have learned that there is a whole nother tier that
is equally as big as the mainstream in the independent girls.
(27:00):
Like I would see a girl and someone would say
that girl does only fans and would go, oh, I
can try and get her on go on, and she
has a million followers. Where the fuck did these come from? Like,
I mean, this is this is my ignorance. This is
just some independent girl quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So it's really nice that there's a crossover. Now, what's
really cool about it is I feel like it puts
more power in your hands being able, because you are
the one that can turn down Vixen. You're not a
woman emailing Vixen going I need to be on your
site please, blah blah blah. How much creative control did
you have over those scenes or did you step back
and go I'm going to experience this from the other side.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
They're actually really I haven't taken too much creative control
at this point, but they are very open to Like
they've told me numerous times. We're just like, let's know
what you want to do. If there's anything you want, like,
tell us and we'll make it happen. So maybe we're
discussing my next year of contracts, so you know, maybe
I'll get a little more creative. But for right now
(27:59):
I just kind of of, you know, I give some
ideas and they'd make it happen. There's something I can't
talk about it yet. There's something coming out that I
really wanted to do, and they've you know, made it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Uh So later this summer it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's going to be out there and the other thing
that like creative control. Yeah. But also there was one
scene I did where I kept thinking back to one
part of it where I wasn't sure. There was some
things I said in like the dirty Chalk. I was like,
I was kind of cringing trying to remember what I
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had said, and I was like, I wanted, like, I'm
not sure if I if I felt like that was
totally me what I said, And they let me completely
review the scene before it was out and go through
it and let them know if they hadn't ship I
was it was just me overthinking.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
When I watched it back, it was beautiful, It was fine.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Everything I said was totally respectful and like, you know,
it was it was all.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
It was all great.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But the fact that they, you know, gave me like
a file of a meet that's not been out yet
and let me review and they said they would change
it if I was not okay with it, Like that
was like, that was I thought pretty big professional.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's it's not you know, there's this perception of porn
from the outside. It's like, oh, Serenity comes on, she
gets fucked, and then she goes. They don't account for
the other ninety five percent of your work that's social media, editing,
this that, blah blah blah, And they also don't account
for like you know, in the moment, can I ask
this so you said offensive?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You don't have to tell me what it was. Was
it offensive or was it? Did you find it corny
what you had said when you thought back, like were
you like, ooh, you got the biggest fucking muscles and
the guy's like that's not really dirty talk, Ooh your
fucking hairline is wonderful. It's like, well, Serenity, that's not
getting Dick's hard. Was it it was just something? Or
(29:49):
was it overly aggressive, like come on, bitch and you're like, well, look,
you're supposed to be more sub in this scene. It was.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Actually, okay, there's something.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Belled a little bit out of out of character, but but.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
No, it was okay. I don't know in my mind,
like sometimes you just like say a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Sure, and that's.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That beats too quiet though saying saying a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I only recently got my wife into dirty talking because
we're just too cynical for it. We've always been. I'd
be like, do you want me to fuck you hard?
And she'd be like, I don't know, can you fuck
me hard? I guess, And it's like, well the mood
is killed now. Now I can't say another word. We
got to be silent, but I kind of expressed to her.
I was like, look what we're saying. I will never
judge you for this. I am like a big mouth
(30:43):
and I call people out and I joke and this
is now busballs here, but anything in here, this is
us And you're totally good. Whatever you say, I won't
call you out for it. And that's been opening up
and that's a that's a nice thing. So if you
secretly want to slide in thing, you're going to be
shooting into this list. But let me ask you, what
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are some types of scenes or niches or fetishes or
anything like that that you're looking forward to adding to
your portfolio in the next year or so, something where
you're like, man, I need to shoot that type of
scene because I don't have that in my repertoire. And
it can be multiple too, whenever you get so.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
In my personal independent stuff we do, we do a
variety of everything. We do kind of fetishi stuff we
do like it's mostly like two guys and a girl
stuff we do like bondage, we do soft, we do
hard like it's just so we do a little variety
of everything. But in the in the Vixen stuff, I
want to do more of their deeper channel, which I
(31:46):
did tell them and I did one scene with deeper,
but it was a hot wife scene.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It was really hot.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
It was it was great, but I was like, you know,
that's cool, Like deeper is there like kink fetish, like
a little bit more out there channel.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And we did hot wife, which was like cool because
I'm comfortable with it.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
But I said, you know, next time, I want to
do it deeper with like lots of like shiny pretty
bondage or like something like a lot of like rope something.
Really you know, we do it in our private life,
but I want to do it in a way where they.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like make it look beautiful, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So I want that that vixen touch on the on
the you know, rope work or bondage or you know,
using like the highest end of a beautiful chink ware.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I don't know, I just want to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Like know, that makes total sense to me. You want
to see the thing that you like doing occasionally or
often or whatever it is, you want to see it
in the highest scale, right, Like, do you watch back
your own stuff, not for like editing purposes or anything.
Do you ever like you're with your husband, you're like, oh,
getting frisky and then you're like, oh, put one of
them really.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
All the time?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watch our own stuff. I don't
watch very much porn at all anymore. That sounds that
sounds kind of terrible, But no, because you know how
you were feeling in that moment, so we and we
have so much content now, so yeah, we'll go back
through own stuff and watch it and you know, have
a good time with that.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It doesn't sound terrible. It sounds like when you work
at Starbucks and after like six months, you're like, I
can't fucking smell coffee anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I'm going to lose my mind.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And it's like, well, I love coffee, but if you
work there long enough, you just kind of like, ah,
I've seen it all. So is that why you don't
watch porn and you're like, eh, I know all that,
or you just don't really find a need for it.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Because I don't find a need for it. It's because
I like what we do.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
The only time, you know, I do watch porn when
I want inspiration or like, for example, if we're if
we're playing around with like DP or something, that's like
you know, you finding the right angles to show it off.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And you know, we have limited people in our independent stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
We don't have a whole studio to get all like
the the right angles and everything. So you know, watching
it for seeing what other people do who are doing
you know, scenes that I want to do. So that's
kind of I don't really want you to get off.
I'll watch it to learn.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, we want to get off. We just watch our
own experiences.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Really, Oh my god, that is such confidence. Congratulations on
having that confidence. I couldn't imagine that I would be
so disgusted with myself. So your typical stuff is two
guys and a girl. You said, right, two guys in
you do you have like a constant guy you go
back to? Does that switch out? Like how do you
(34:39):
schedule and like plan your own personal stuff?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
So, sorry, it's getting louder here. I hope that's not.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You're good, don't what are you gonna do? Shut it down?
You're good, You're fine. We'll work around it, Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So for our own stuff, we do have one very
good friend who's bless his heart, He's like he's always
down to film something and that's been such a like
he's such a good time. So a lot of our
content is with one of our good friends. But we
do switch it up like I'll have you know, I
(35:14):
still I still go out on the dating apps and
like find guys and you know, I do this segment
and my only fans.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Called a date Diary.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Where I'll go out and on a date with a
new guy and like stuff there's so and then I'll
you know, hook up with other content.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Creator gentlemen, and you know, we do we do that.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
But like for our we have a very small group
of our regular folks that we do content with, or
we don't always do content, like we still have threesomes
outside of filming, just for our own fun.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Really okay, all right, nice? So where do we see
this going? It sounds like you got in for the
purest reason. It feels like where you were like, this
is fun, this is I enjoy doing this. My first uh,
my first podcast was a comedy show and we had listeners,
but we didn't have as many listeners as this does.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
But it was just fun. You would just jump on.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I would talk to my friend every week for an hour,
cut it up, post it.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was great. So you got into this for the
right reasons.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I speak to a lot of performers who are like,
I'm trying to get to this and I'm out. I
have no interest in this. Do you have any like
major goal or milestone that you were looking to hit?
Is it retirement? Is it you want to film the
world's biggest gang bang and you're done? Do you want
to start keep doing like guilf porn at seventy five
years old?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like, where do you see your road going?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
For us, it's when it's all being fun. We're done
right now. It's still really fun and we are lucky.
I say we because you know it's not just Sarinity Cox,
like my husband is a partner in it. Like we're
lucky because both of us have professions that we can
(37:03):
fall back on.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
We don't need to be doing this.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
We're doing this because it's an absolute blast, and luckily
we've both taken breaks from our other professions because this,
I like, supports some much better than our other professions did.
And we're just so fortunate to be able to do this.
So we're just rolling with it. And when and if this,
you know, isn't doing it for us anymore, then you know,
(37:29):
we'll stop. We have things that we can fall back on,
and we'll still be doing the lifestyle things. We'll still
be you know, screwing around with our friends and.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Just having fun.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Hopefully we'll be set up financially from this so that
we won't have to go back to work. And that
is the goal.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is That's always the goal. I ask this every time,
is there any kind of type of scene? I used
to call this game sack shit Animal and kids, I
would ask, is there a type of scene or something
you wouldn't want to shoot? And performers would be like, well,
I wouldn't fuck a kid, and I'd be like, yeah, no,
I got that. Those are off the table. We're not
(38:10):
talking about you know, like deprecation type stuff. Kids are animals,
all right out. So when I ask you this, let's
work within the realm of pornography you can find on
the internet, not the dark Web. Is there any type
of scene that you have no interest in pursuing that
they come to you the Vixen's you know the deal. Whatever,
(38:33):
a site comes to you and you're able to take
it potentially, and they go, we want you to shoot
this type of scene, and you immediately just kind of go, Now,
it's not really me. Doesn't fit my brand, doesn't fit
my personality. Is there anything that's kind of out Not
a nurse?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Are you scared you're gonna get pigeonholed into the same
role every time? Oh, let's just get throundy.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
She's a nurse. Yeah, go ahead, No, because it's so
to No.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
It just bugs me because I feel like it's such
a sexualized profession. And whenever people find out that I'm
a nurse, they're like, oh, you should do nurse poor
and you should be the like slutty nurse. And I'm
like no, and I don't, like, I know a lot
of people do it. It's fine, Like it's it's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I'm not that you know, hurt or offended by it.
But I just see how hard and there's a lot
of professions like this, how hard like women of work
to be taken seriously in specific professions, and I just
don't want to add to that, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Sexualization of those professions. So I don't do teacher porn.
I don't do nurse porn.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I don't do police officer or army chick or like
any of these things.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
That like I feel, I just don't feel good about that.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Totally understand. I that is such an interesting perspective. I've
never thought of that before. You respect how much goes
into that profession, So you don't want to do like
a characterization or a cartoon of it, almost right, is
that what it sounds like?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I know it's lighthearted and like, you know, we
know that it's just a fantasy when people are doing
it important, but just for me personally, I'm like, I
can't go there.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I interviewed Gage, who was a major porn star in
the early two thousand. One of my favorites, you know,
right around the time I turned eighteen, definitely not fifteen
years old, so one of my favorites of all time.
And she told us, you know, in depth, I grew
up in Arkansas. It was very racist down there. It
was blah blah blah blah blah. So I had the question, like,
(40:36):
did you have any concerns or issues doing interracial porns?
She said interracial was totally fine. The stuff she wouldn't
do with stepbrother and stepsister because she said everyone back
in my town was doing that already, and I did
not want to get judged for that. And I was like,
you know what, respect, I totally get it. There's you
don't want to Yeah, I get that, sir Annie. So
(40:58):
I kind of asked it, a but what is the
future hold do we? What can I expect if I
go on your only fans right now? By the way,
folks at Serenity Cox links in the episode description, as
always as they always are, we support creators here. Am
I getting any nut that I want it?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
But?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Am I getting any polished stuff? Am I getting you?
And your daily life with your husband?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Am I? I know you do no pay per view?
I believe I read that.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, okay, awesome. So what is the experience, the Serenity
Cox experience if I sign up for your of today?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Okay, so the Serenity Cox experience if you never pronosi
this is great.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
So my only fans is uh, subscription only, no pay
per view.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It is just two videos a week of me and
my lifestyle doing what we do. Generally, it's my husband
filming me with a gentleman, sometimes with a lady and
sometimes other two videos a week, plus little updates in
between photos and that. But I get asked a lot.
(42:06):
I don't do any of the paid custom stuff. I
don't see any of the pay per view stuff. It's
just what I want to post and I'm just thankful
when people want to tune in and watch that. And
I also do a monthly live stream, which is always
my most fun time of the month. Is just an
(42:26):
hour of intimate uh on well people on one with.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Sure, I have to say, and I'm not just blown
smoke care. I really respect that you are in this.
It seems like for the right reasons. And I think
your message is awesome. I think your message on fucking
nursing is awesome and I've never considered that before. I
have read you are very tied in with sexual health,
(42:52):
and you promote that right really hard.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And do you like to promote sexual health?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Sure, I just kind of let it go.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Should all be promoting sexual health in this industry?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, but you're qualified to do it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
If I stand on a corner handing out condoms, I
look like a real fucking weirdo.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You're a nurse.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You're able to talk about sexual If I start doing
listen biologically, people go, you're an idiot.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Don't speak to me.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So we need more qualified people like you speaking about
important issues in the world.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
So yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's only people.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Actually, a lot of people do ask in my in
my private messages on only Fans. One thing I do
like people and know is that I do answer all
my messages on OnlyFans myself. I don't use that platform
for for sexting. I use it for communicating, and a
lot of people do ask me like really great questions
about sexual health and about relationships and about you know,
(43:44):
what I'm doing, and like it's have some great conversations
in my only messaging and I love that, But I
don't sext and a lot of people don't like that,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
All right, they'll get over it.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
They can enjoy the two videos a week and everything
else and then head on over to Vixen and see
all your scenes. But most importantly where they can head
is the episode descriptions, so they can make sure they
follow you across all social media.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's free, so at least if you have no money,
you're broke. You can't sign up for the of follow
her on social media, and most importantly, if you do
have that, right there you go and hey on follow,
follow all the Vixen accounts, and then when they post
a clip of her scene, go, oh my god, I
heard Serenity before.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
She's so great.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
You should have her on more and also pay her
more money anyway, and give her more creative control. Type
that out literally word for word, Serenity Cox. We can
find you at Serenity Cox. And thank you so much
for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Thanks for shotting with me. I'm going to watch a
ballgame now,
Serenity Cox my guest tonight. You know exactly where you
can find her at. Serenity Cox links to everything, all
of our social media. Everywhere we want to support her
is in the episode description below. Please make sure you
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Serenity. Is it a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a pleasure to meet you as well. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
So I was driving in the car with my wife
earlier and I was like, should I just hit her
with some dumb fucking.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Joke right off the bat?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And I was going to say, did you think it
was fate that you became a porn star with the
last named Cox? And I was like, well, she'll definitely
get it, but it's not funny. So I let me
start and ask you, how did you initially get into
the adult entertainment industry in whatever form that was, whether
it was camming first or going right into scenes only fans,
(01:12):
whatever you wanted to do. What was the thing that
you jumped into where you crossed the line from vanilla
to the world we live in.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's so hard for me to answer that in a
concise way. I tend to get really wordy because it
was a very long journey with a lot of steps
to it. It's a journey I took with my husband
and it all started out with our exploring a hot
wife dynamic in.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Our marriage, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
One thing led to another and eventually our content creation
started was just sharing videos of our journey, and it
started very low key. It started on the first flat
platform we used was fet life, and then the second
platform used was porn Hub. It was all just free
stuff because we'd really we weren't in it to make money.
We just wanted to share. We were so excited genuinely
(02:05):
for our own like the shit that we were doing,
we wanted other people to see it, so we were
just like, this is great, let's put it out there.
So it was just us having a blast and posting footage.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Of it on the internet.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And then a few years later it became actually like
a conscious like kind of business. Still we're just filming
our fucking around in our journey that we're having part
of my language.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But yeah, that's how it started. It was just making
videos of our journey.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So if this gets too personal, please stop me. Can
I ask did you come into your marriage in a
swinger open relationship type of situation. This is I've been
interviewing so many performers who started as hot wife or
swinger lifestyle, and I find it so fascinating because I've
been with my wife for almost twenty years now.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
We met when we were like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm thirty eight, so i have no concept of, like,
you know, spreading out. I've never even, like, you know,
been one of those Oh yeah, I went around fucking college.
Now I've been with my wife the whole time. Was
it something you went into your relationship with knowing this
was the idea? Was it something that came up later
where it was almost like we need to spice this
(03:13):
up in a positive or negative way? What was the
turn for you guys?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Again, it was just very like we went into our
relationship totally regular monogamous.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I would say regular.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We were always very maybe adventurous in our sex life,
but we were monogamous.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It was just the two of us.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It wasn't until later in our relationship that we decided
to take a path into non monogamy and trying out
new things.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, and I tried to Probably every interview I've done
it has a different timeline.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
They're like years, I thought I have this.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
After seven I don't even remember, but there was a
like it was a gradual change where our you know,
are just between the two of us sex life started
involving a lot of like worldplay about involving other people
and a lot of fantasy talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Involving other people.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And it became very apparent that, like my husband had
these strong turn ons with involving me and other men,
which I thought was really cool. I'd never even heard
of that kind of thing before my relationship with him,
and I don't even think he really knew until we
did our you know, research together that there was a
term for it, hot wife. So we kind of just
explored these themes that both of us found exciting just
(04:28):
in our it's just in our you know, solo bedroom time.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
We started exploring them.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Together, and you know, over the years, like it was
years and years, and then over the years we just
kind of got a little bit more bold and more
confident in our own relationship and thought, let's just do this,
like there's nothing to lose here.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
We're both you know.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So well connected and so confident and in our relationship
that you know, let's just go for it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So we just did.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Let me Okay, there was one thing you said in
there that that got me interested. And let me say,
first off, you don't have to tell me his actual
job is your husband the general manager of a baseball team?
Because I'm just wondering. You have the coolest layout I've
ever had on this show. As my camera goes blurry,
don't worry, my face isn't on this. What is what
is going on there?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Can I ask that?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, in another hour or so, the Blue Jays are playing,
so we booked one of the hotel rooms that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Overlook the field.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So, yeah, the game isn't on yet, but.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I mean that's an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, so you said something in there you were like,
fuck it, what do we have to lose? I have
read a few interviews with you where your husband is
blurred in it?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Was there any concern about jobs or anything like? Because
the fun thing to say is there's nothing to lose
as I put all of my body parts on the
internet for people to see, and then the other reality
of it, potentially there's things to lose over here.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Was there any like concern or fear about that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I think I said I meant that about our relationship.
Nothing to lose in content. We started with our lifestyle,
so there was nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
We didn't feel there was anything to lose in our
relationship because we were just so happy and it was
a together thing. There definitely was some concern when we
started posting online, and we took probably we were a
bit naive in the beginning. We took some precautions like
early early content, and those people who've been following me
for a while know that I used to wear masks
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and or have like our faces not in it, and
it was very like nobody knew we were doing this,
but it was like the time and the genre, like
it just became really popular really quickly, and then we
made a conscious decision that I was going to show
my face. And so at first when I started doing that,
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we like GEO blocked our province and like we you know,
we're still a bit cautious about it. We weren't sure
how people would react. But over time, like people did
find out, and we made the decision to just lean
into it because really we were just two happy people
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who who.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Liked sharing what we were doing on the internet.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And luckily it didn't you know, like I know, not
every story is like the fairy tale that we had
before us, Like we never had.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Any any issues.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There's a bit of like drama at my workplace when
people first found out. There was a bit of a shock,
but it's moved over fairly quickly, and you know, at
the end of the day, I was it didn't change
who I was at work with my friends and my family.
It's not like it didn't change who I was as
you know, as a person, and you know, has had
some interesting discussions with a lot of people who I
(07:44):
normally wouldn't have those discussions with.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But it was kind of it was just a way
of kind of like.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So part of what we were doing was even though yeah,
it was just for a turn on for us and
an exhibitionist thing, it was also I really liked the
idea of normalizing relationships that were sort of outside the
box or the society's norms.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So if we.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Were confident enough to do that in videos, I thought
we should be confident enough to explain ourselves and talk
about our passions with the people in our lives. So
we did that, and we took that opportunity, which is
a lot harder than putting it out there for faceless
people on the internet.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But in the end, like it was, it was very healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That yeah, yeah, that is that's a big jump for
me personally. The thought of that is, you know, terrifying.
Here show all of your miniscule parts to everybody in
the world. The one thing you said, there was drama
there at your other job. I'm only asking this because
you have talked about that other job before, and it
kind of leads into another part of the discussion. What
was that other job? Do you still discuss just what
(08:55):
it was, not where it was or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I was a a nurse for most
most of my life.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
I was an immersed a nurse in the emergency department
and yeah, just until last year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's so creat My wife and I are in the
middle of an er watch for the first time and
I the show.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We are ever CEO the show? We are yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
We're not just standing outside of the hospital like watching
the people go in.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But it looks fucking insane. We watched the pit too.
What is that on HBO? That one's really good too.
Have you seen that?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh it's real good. HBO Max throw that on, but
it looks fucking hectic and insane. So that leads me
into my next question. They I've seen a bunch of
articles recently and again I understand this is not the
same concept. I'll show you how I'm going to tie
it together. I read an article recently about how, like
the number one profession where there's cheating going on is
(09:56):
now nursing. It used to be like cops and firemen,
and now it's nursing. What is it about nursing that
maybe doesn't work with monogamy?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Is that a thing? Or no?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Did you see that? Did you get hit on by
guys before you were in this open relationship?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
In my experience, I didn't. I didn't find that was
to be true in my in my really okay, I
never I never cheated on my husband.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I mean, like I without consent. Sure, not without him
encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I also never mixed my my lifestyle and hobby of
what my husband and I did with my workplace. And
that was just the kind of person I was. It
may have been happening, but I.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Wasn't aware of it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So I don't know, Like none of my friends in
the nursing profession, were you know, having affairs and cheating that.
But I mean there's there's a lot of there's a
lot of nurses out there, so true.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Sure, well let's I mean, let's let's play around with
the psychology of it, maybe a little bit. You're seeing
really tragic things all day, you can see, I mean,
you're seeing positive things as well, somebody getting better at life,
being saved, this and that. But you're watching people who
pass away or a kid who comes in with an injury,
and this and that, and then maybe mister hot doctor
over there is the shoulder for you to really like
(11:25):
kind of let it go on, and then you know,
maybe he looks like he's got okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
That sense, I will say because with my colleagues, I've
formed some very strong bonds, and a lot of it
is around the you know, like trauma bonding. It's like
around the things you see that other people in your
life don't necessarily see or or don't quite get the
same way. So there is a sense I've made strong
friendships around that and had some really intense moments around that,
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but in a non sexual way. So I can see
how others would sure bring that together in a in
asexual way as well.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like it that makes sense. You have a point.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
There are two people I cannot make laugh in the world.
There's a lot of other people, but there's two specific
groups of people, and it's dominatrixes and nurses. I just
bomb every time. I don't know why. You guys are
too serious, too smart to deal with my stupidity. I
respect that. I understand the world needs those people. So
thank you for being a nurse for all of those
years and saving lives. I have some swinger questions for you, right,
(12:31):
and they might seem silly, but I'm coming at this
from the street level person. I have, like I said,
no understanding, and I really want to relay to people
like it's maybe there are misconceptions here or there. Can
I ask, are there any major misconceptions about the hot
wife lifestyle? And how does hot wifing differ from any
(12:53):
other type of swing? Are there different types of swinger lifestyles.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I'll start by saying I'm not an.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Expert in well, we'll do it all in your experience,
experience perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I will say that in my experience, I've met many
couples who have various types of open relationships and consensual,
non monogamous relationships, And it seems to me that each
relationship is it may have.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Similar dynamics, but nobody's exactly the same.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Everyone has different rules, everyone has different comfort levels, everyone
has slightly different dynamics.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And there's a whole spectrum.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Of swinging couples and hot wife couples and what they
do or don't do.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So what was the question?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I asked too many questions at once. I made a
nurse's life. I ask too many questions at once, and
they just stack up. Essentially, are there any misconceptions from
what you've seen? Like have you ever told anybody that?
And they're almost like, oh my god, that's disgusting. You
just let yourself get gang bang by fifty guys every night,
And you're like, well, no, it's not quite like that.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
There's definitely misconceptions the person people see when they watch
my content. For example, people only see me in these
scenarios and just assume that it's like every single day
when really it's I mean, it's actually quite frequent, but
(14:23):
but it's not, you know, it's not like ninety percent
of my life is being a hot wife, that's just
you know, a pastime, like some people you know, play
hockey and.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I do this.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A misconception also, one misconception that a lot of just
people in my personal life might have had when they
first found out this what we're doing, is that it's
it goes both ways. Some people think, you know, it's
one person pressuring the other person to do something. So
like my husband, you know, is you know, pushing me
(14:57):
to have sex with other men, you know, for his enjoyment,
And other people think that it's me, my poor husband,
I'm out, you know, sleeping with all these men, when
really it's like for us anyway, it was years and
years of just like talking and growing together and making
decisions about what we were going to do and what
you know excited us, and we did this together.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And it's it's a little bit tricky with all life
because it's kind of one.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Sided from an outside perspective because the woman is going
and having all these experiences and the husband isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
So it does appear a little bit one sided. So
there can be a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Of misconceptions about that when really, you know, my enjoyment
is coming from the experiences and his enjoyment is coming from,
you know, seeing me having these experiences or bringing the
stories home to him, and then the moments.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That we have afterwards.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
So there is a lot of misconceptions about the drive
behind those.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Kind of relationships, you know, and it's tough for people
to see from the outside. But the relationships, the ones
you described in the middle there that are not yours,
the dominant woman telling the guy I'm gonna go get fucked,
or the guy being like, you have to go do this,
but they don't last unless they're like crazy, abusive and
(16:13):
codependent and all this. And but those aren't like real
lasting relationships. You're not going to find a couple who
are ten years into the swinger lifestyle and the chicks like,
I don't really like this that much ever, it just
I don't. That is a misconception, Like it seems like
if you were in this and everyone's happy, then this
is maybe how you were supposed to be, Like, I
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don't understand why anyone comments on anybody else's happiness.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's just me going off on a rant there. So
I apologize.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Every beautiful thing about human beings is where you know,
even though we're all the same species, we're also very
different and we all, you know, we're allowed to have
different types of relationships and what works for one person
it doesn't have to work for somebody else. As long
as we're happy and you found that person who has
the same you know, path to happiness as you do.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's it's fun. We can all have our different you
know paths and sure sure.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Two last questions about swinger lifestyle. Number one, do you
guys have rules set up or is it just a
constant communication like is there something you know not to
bring to him because he doesn't he's not into this.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yes, and yes, so we do have some rules for example,
like there's certain things that we're not into. Some hot
wife couples are into get us thrill out of a
little bit of degradation or cooking my personal relationship, or
we're not into that. I don't you know, make a
big scene about like how much better another guy is
than my husband and or like deny my husband. And
(17:43):
some people are like that and they both really love
it and get off on it, and that's cool, but
that's just for us.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
We don't do that.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Another thing is we're not polyamorous. So as many guys
as I you know, can go out and see or
even befriend, it doesn't turn into a romantic thing. And
I don't have like a romantic relationship with other guys
who are not my husband. It's more just like a fun,
free and sexual kind of relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Those all these things across that kind of line. That's
obviously a hard rule that we have.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That just brought up another question. So two more questions
about the swinger lifestyle. This one here is have you
had to push people away after the fact, either men
or women or anything in this life? And I apologize,
Is your husband allowed to do you guys go both ways?
Is it just about the enjoyment he has watching you
(18:39):
not go both ways? And you know what I meant, like,
is he allowed to be with women as well?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
For sure he is. He hasn't gone out and had
sex with other women. He's like, we've been in group
situations where he's like had you know, like low jobs
or like sexy contact with other women, but he hasn't
actually like like gone out way I do it and
like had sex with another woman. I would be totally
cool with it if he did, but we just haven't.
(19:05):
And maybe it will in the future, but at this point.
It just hasn't been something that we've jud.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Sure that makes almost this last question a little bit moot,
But I always love asking this to people in the lifestyle.
Has any one of you ever it would be better
if he was also engaging with women? But have either
of you ever taken a bullet for the other one?
I love the concept of a swinger couple meeting a
couple and the guy in that other couple is like gorgeous,
(19:34):
and the girls like and the wife's like, look, you're
gonna have to You're gonna have to do that, okay,
or vice versa. You know, maybe the guy is looks
like me and the woman there is like this, yuck,
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Has anyone ever had to take a bullet?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Have you ever been like, like, I'm not saying it
would go you would be you know, I don't want
to do that. But has he been like, yeoh, you
should be with that guy and you've been a little
bit like, eh, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, I can't say that you've had situation.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, I can see.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, it's a good question, but no, it doesn't really
apply to us.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
The experiences that we've had okay, all right, fair enough,
fair enough, let me get into some of your content.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here. You are, I believe, still a Vixen girl.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Damn yes, what is I interviewed someone the other day
who her first entrance into this She goes to Brassers
contact at me, and I'm just thinking of all the
performers out there who try and put together they're only
fans and this and that, and this beautiful girl over here.
Brasers just gives her a call and goes, hey, do
you want to like do real big time stuff. So
as I'm looking at your list of things you've done,
(20:47):
which I do a little game called stat check, we'll
go to that in a little bit. I mean it's
all Vixen sites. That was your jump into the mainstream, right,
Like I assume you produced a lot of your own
content for a while and then the jump into mainstream or.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
No, So I my main my main content is still
my own content.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Sure, very Vixen. I love you, Vixen.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I'm still I'm under contract with Vixen as well, and
that's my professional my professional work. But you know, there's
the two branches of the adult industry. There's the amateur
or you know, independent content creators and there, and there's
the professional studio house uh big time productions, right, I
(21:32):
do both. So my main thing that I do on
a day to day basis is my only fans, my
port and hub, my my husband and I making our
own content, ruing around with friends, just having a good time,
going to ball games, you know, making content out of it,
and like that's like, that's that's our joy, that's what
we do. Vixen came Uplong I guess two years ago now,
(21:57):
and I had no idea because I didn't really I
didn't know anything about porn. I just knew that like
our you know, our own stuff that we do, and
like I didn't know mainstream porn. And Vixen comes along
and says like, hey, we have this new channel it's
called Milfie and would you be interested in in like
doing like production porn. And at first I was just like, like,
(22:20):
who who's Vixen? When really like they're like.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like, who's bank Bros. I've never heard of these brothers before. Yeah, okay, yes,
ye yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
So they came because I obviously it makes sense for
them to seek it because independent OnlyFans, amateur stuff is
so big, right, now and a lot of these girls
have such big followings. It makes sense for these you know,
mainstream companies to get those girls so they can get
their audiences, right. So I'm sure like they were looking
to see who's doing what, and anyway, I guess they
(22:50):
came across me, reached out, and then several months later, I,
you know, I gave them a shot. I had no
interest in doing you know, professional porn because I was like,
I don't do acting like I want. I'm showing my
real life. I'm showing you know what I do. I'm
not an actor. But they were so sweet. They were
so absolutely sweet, and they made this hot white scene
(23:12):
for me to do, and like Kingen Cross wrote this
scrip and directed it and it was just very simple,
but it was something that I was familiar with, something
that I was comfortable with, and so I went out
to LA and I shot this like twenty twenty three
and it was so much fun. And then after that,
like you know, I did a few more and then
they signed me and now I do you know, ten
(23:35):
scenes a year or something, and we kind of incorporated
that into our own hot Wife dynamic because it was
the first time that I that I.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Was doing something without my husband.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I mean, I've had, you know, pressure, but it was
the first time I've done something you know, content or
video related without him, because he films everything, edits everything,
like we worked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Together as a team, and so I was.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I wasn't sure how that would work, but he was like,
this is actually really exciting because you know, we can
think about it, like I go on these dates and
I come home and I tell him all about it,
and he's like, it's like, you're going on these dates,
but only you're going out to like these fantasy scenarios
that Vixen can write for you and having these experiences
that you wouldn't necessarily have, you know, with guys you
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know here in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I look, but you know, it was it's just like
these things.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And then I, you know, I come back to him
and I tell them all about my experiences on set
and that feeds into our dynamic that we love. So
I do that, but I still also do my my
independent stuff at the same time.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Not that I think you're going to like the bad
part of town to film scenes, but there's also it's safer.
I would think for the most part, you hear some
bad stories about mainstream sets. But for the most part,
it's also safer. It's like you're going into an environment
with a professional. If you were my wife, I'm into
this and I'm sending you out, I go, oh, this
is the best way for her not to be killed
in a hotel room or something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So exactly, like some of these scenarios that I've been
able to like act out or like you know, do
on a Vixen set are things.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
That you know. It's because sometimes you have a fantasy
but it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Really make sense in reality because a, yeah, it's not
safe or it's not you know, something that you can
make happen in a way that makes sense. But you know,
in a set you can and you can live out
these fantasies and then bring it home in.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
A controlled and safe way.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And Vixen were just That's the thing I learned was
like they're so wonderful to their performers, Like.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
They'll play me out there, they take care of me.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They'll like take me out to dinner and ask me
to make sure that you know the debrief afterwards, make
sure that I'm comfortable and I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And it just.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Felt so you know nice, and I had no idea
before before I met them.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And then when I talk to other people the like
you know.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Most people, they do a lot of other stuff and
then they get to the you know, companies like Vixen.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Don't know you literally, I mean you literally.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
This starts out at I think Vixen shoots the most
beautiful stuff. Now that's not everybody's preference, that's not even
necessarily my preference. But you can't say the color isn't beautiful,
the quality isn't beautiful, the camera, I mean everything works.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Me.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I'm a gritty, dirty scumbag. I like the middle of
the road stuff. But yeah, I mean you can't start
on like a better company than that. So congratulations on that.
That is awesome. That is hard work, and you're right.
I never knew this until I started doing this show.
But I also do another kind of side show called
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Brand New Faces, where I bring on new girls who
are trying to get into the industry and kind of
tell them what I know, get their story, see if
they're really like into this. And through doing this, I
have learned that there is a whole nother tier that
is equally as big as the mainstream in the independent girls.
(27:00):
Like I would see a girl and someone would say
that girl does only fans and would go, oh, I
can try and get her on go on, and she
has a million followers. Where the fuck did these come from? Like,
I mean, this is this is my ignorance. This is
just some independent girl quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So it's really nice that there's a crossover. Now, what's
really cool about it is I feel like it puts
more power in your hands being able, because you are
the one that can turn down Vixen. You're not a
woman emailing Vixen going I need to be on your
site please, blah blah blah. How much creative control did
you have over those scenes or did you step back
and go I'm going to experience this from the other side.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
They're actually really I haven't taken too much creative control
at this point, but they are very open to Like
they've told me numerous times. We're just like, let's know
what you want to do. If there's anything you want, like,
tell us and we'll make it happen. So maybe we're
discussing my next year of contracts, so you know, maybe
I'll get a little more creative. But for right now
(27:59):
I just kind of of, you know, I give some
ideas and they'd make it happen. There's something I can't
talk about it yet. There's something coming out that I
really wanted to do, and they've you know, made it happen.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Uh So later this summer it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's going to be out there and the other thing
that like creative control. Yeah. But also there was one
scene I did where I kept thinking back to one
part of it where I wasn't sure. There was some
things I said in like the dirty Chalk. I was like,
I was kind of cringing trying to remember what I
(28:32):
had said, and I was like, I wanted, like, I'm
not sure if I if I felt like that was
totally me what I said, And they let me completely
review the scene before it was out and go through
it and let them know if they hadn't ship I
was it was just me overthinking.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
When I watched it back, it was beautiful, It was fine.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Everything I said was totally respectful and like, you know,
it was it was all.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
It was all great.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But the fact that they, you know, gave me like
a file of a meet that's not been out yet
and let me review and they said they would change
it if I was not okay with it, Like that
was like, that was I thought pretty big professional.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's it's not you know, there's this perception of porn
from the outside. It's like, oh, Serenity comes on, she
gets fucked, and then she goes. They don't account for
the other ninety five percent of your work that's social media, editing,
this that, blah blah blah, And they also don't account
for like you know, in the moment, can I ask
this so you said offensive?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You don't have to tell me what it was. Was
it offensive or was it? Did you find it corny
what you had said when you thought back, like were
you like, ooh, you got the biggest fucking muscles and
the guy's like that's not really dirty talk, Ooh your
fucking hairline is wonderful. It's like, well, Serenity, that's not
getting Dick's hard. Was it it was just something? Or
(29:49):
was it overly aggressive, like come on, bitch and you're like, well, look,
you're supposed to be more sub in this scene. It was.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Actually, okay, there's something.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Belled a little bit out of out of character, but but.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
No, it was okay. I don't know in my mind,
like sometimes you just like say a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Sure, and that's.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That beats too quiet though saying saying a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I only recently got my wife into dirty talking because
we're just too cynical for it. We've always been. I'd
be like, do you want me to fuck you hard?
And she'd be like, I don't know, can you fuck
me hard? I guess, And it's like, well the mood
is killed now. Now I can't say another word. We
got to be silent, but I kind of expressed to her.
I was like, look what we're saying. I will never
judge you for this. I am like a big mouth
(30:43):
and I call people out and I joke and this
is now busballs here, but anything in here, this is
us And you're totally good. Whatever you say, I won't
call you out for it. And that's been opening up
and that's a that's a nice thing. So if you
secretly want to slide in thing, you're going to be
shooting into this list. But let me ask you, what
(31:03):
are some types of scenes or niches or fetishes or
anything like that that you're looking forward to adding to
your portfolio in the next year or so, something where
you're like, man, I need to shoot that type of
scene because I don't have that in my repertoire. And
it can be multiple too, whenever you get so.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
In my personal independent stuff we do, we do a
variety of everything. We do kind of fetishi stuff we
do like it's mostly like two guys and a girl
stuff we do like bondage, we do soft, we do
hard like it's just so we do a little variety
of everything. But in the in the Vixen stuff, I
want to do more of their deeper channel, which I
(31:46):
did tell them and I did one scene with deeper,
but it was a hot wife scene.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It was really hot.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
It was it was great, but I was like, you know,
that's cool, Like deeper is there like kink fetish, like
a little bit more out there channel.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
And we did hot wife, which was like cool because
I'm comfortable with it.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
But I said, you know, next time, I want to
do it deeper with like lots of like shiny pretty
bondage or like something like a lot of like rope something.
Really you know, we do it in our private life,
but I want to do it in a way where they.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like make it look beautiful, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So I want that that vixen touch on the on
the you know, rope work or bondage or you know,
using like the highest end of a beautiful chink ware.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I don't know, I just want to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Like know, that makes total sense to me. You want
to see the thing that you like doing occasionally or
often or whatever it is, you want to see it
in the highest scale, right, Like, do you watch back
your own stuff, not for like editing purposes or anything.
Do you ever like you're with your husband, you're like, oh,
getting frisky and then you're like, oh, put one of
them really.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
All the time?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we watch our own stuff. I don't
watch very much porn at all anymore. That sounds that
sounds kind of terrible, But no, because you know how
you were feeling in that moment, so we and we
have so much content now, so yeah, we'll go back
through own stuff and watch it and you know, have
a good time with that.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It doesn't sound terrible. It sounds like when you work
at Starbucks and after like six months, you're like, I
can't fucking smell coffee anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I'm going to lose my mind.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And it's like, well, I love coffee, but if you
work there long enough, you just kind of like, ah,
I've seen it all. So is that why you don't
watch porn and you're like, eh, I know all that,
or you just don't really find a need for it.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Because I don't find a need for it. It's because
I like what we do.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
The only time, you know, I do watch porn when
I want inspiration or like, for example, if we're if
we're playing around with like DP or something, that's like
you know, you finding the right angles to show it off.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
And you know, we have limited people in our independent stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
We don't have a whole studio to get all like
the the right angles and everything. So you know, watching
it for seeing what other people do who are doing
you know, scenes that I want to do. So that's
kind of I don't really want you to get off.
I'll watch it to learn.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, we want to get off. We just watch our
own experiences.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Really, Oh my god, that is such confidence. Congratulations on
having that confidence. I couldn't imagine that I would be
so disgusted with myself. So your typical stuff is two
guys and a girl. You said, right, two guys in
you do you have like a constant guy you go
back to? Does that switch out? Like how do you
(34:39):
schedule and like plan your own personal stuff?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
So, sorry, it's getting louder here. I hope that's not.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
You're good, don't what are you gonna do? Shut it down?
You're good, You're fine. We'll work around it, Okay.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So for our own stuff, we do have one very
good friend who's bless his heart, He's like he's always
down to film something and that's been such a like
he's such a good time. So a lot of our
content is with one of our good friends. But we
do switch it up like I'll have you know, I
(35:14):
still I still go out on the dating apps and
like find guys and you know, I do this segment
and my only fans.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Called a date Diary.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Where I'll go out and on a date with a
new guy and like stuff there's so and then I'll
you know, hook up with other content.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Creator gentlemen, and you know, we do we do that.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
But like for our we have a very small group
of our regular folks that we do content with, or
we don't always do content, like we still have threesomes
outside of filming, just for our own fun.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Really okay, all right, nice? So where do we see
this going? It sounds like you got in for the
purest reason. It feels like where you were like, this
is fun, this is I enjoy doing this. My first uh,
my first podcast was a comedy show and we had listeners,
but we didn't have as many listeners as this does.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
But it was just fun. You would just jump on.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I would talk to my friend every week for an hour,
cut it up, post it.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It was great. So you got into this for the
right reasons.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I speak to a lot of performers who are like,
I'm trying to get to this and I'm out. I
have no interest in this. Do you have any like
major goal or milestone that you were looking to hit?
Is it retirement? Is it you want to film the
world's biggest gang bang and you're done? Do you want
to start keep doing like guilf porn at seventy five
years old?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Like, where do you see your road going?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
For us, it's when it's all being fun. We're done
right now. It's still really fun and we are lucky.
I say we because you know it's not just Sarinity Cox,
like my husband is a partner in it. Like we're
lucky because both of us have professions that we can
(37:03):
fall back on.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
We don't need to be doing this.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
We're doing this because it's an absolute blast, and luckily
we've both taken breaks from our other professions because this,
I like, supports some much better than our other professions did.
And we're just so fortunate to be able to do this.
So we're just rolling with it. And when and if this,
you know, isn't doing it for us anymore, then you know,
(37:29):
we'll stop. We have things that we can fall back on,
and we'll still be doing the lifestyle things. We'll still
be you know, screwing around with our friends and.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Just having fun.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Hopefully we'll be set up financially from this so that
we won't have to go back to work. And that
is the goal.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
That is That's always the goal. I ask this every time,
is there any kind of type of scene? I used
to call this game sack shit Animal and kids, I
would ask, is there a type of scene or something
you wouldn't want to shoot? And performers would be like, well,
I wouldn't fuck a kid, and I'd be like, yeah, no,
I got that. Those are off the table. We're not
(38:10):
talking about you know, like deprecation type stuff. Kids are animals,
all right out. So when I ask you this, let's
work within the realm of pornography you can find on
the internet, not the dark Web. Is there any type
of scene that you have no interest in pursuing that
they come to you the Vixen's you know the deal. Whatever,
(38:33):
a site comes to you and you're able to take
it potentially, and they go, we want you to shoot
this type of scene, and you immediately just kind of go, Now,
it's not really me. Doesn't fit my brand, doesn't fit
my personality. Is there anything that's kind of out Not
a nurse?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Are you scared you're gonna get pigeonholed into the same
role every time? Oh, let's just get throundy.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
She's a nurse. Yeah, go ahead, No, because it's so
to No.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
It just bugs me because I feel like it's such
a sexualized profession. And whenever people find out that I'm
a nurse, they're like, oh, you should do nurse poor
and you should be the like slutty nurse. And I'm
like no, and I don't, like, I know a lot
of people do it. It's fine, Like it's it's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
I'm not that you know, hurt or offended by it.
But I just see how hard and there's a lot
of professions like this, how hard like women of work
to be taken seriously in specific professions, and I just
don't want to add to that, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Sexualization of those professions. So I don't do teacher porn.
I don't do nurse porn.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I don't do police officer or army chick or like
any of these things.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
That like I feel, I just don't feel good about that.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Totally understand. I that is such an interesting perspective. I've
never thought of that before. You respect how much goes
into that profession, So you don't want to do like
a characterization or a cartoon of it, almost right, is
that what it sounds like?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
And I know it's lighthearted and like, you know, we
know that it's just a fantasy when people are doing
it important, but just for me personally, I'm like, I
can't go there.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I interviewed Gage, who was a major porn star in
the early two thousand. One of my favorites, you know,
right around the time I turned eighteen, definitely not fifteen
years old, so one of my favorites of all time.
And she told us, you know, in depth, I grew
up in Arkansas. It was very racist down there. It
was blah blah blah blah blah. So I had the question, like,
(40:36):
did you have any concerns or issues doing interracial porns?
She said interracial was totally fine. The stuff she wouldn't
do with stepbrother and stepsister because she said everyone back
in my town was doing that already, and I did
not want to get judged for that. And I was like,
you know what, respect, I totally get it. There's you
don't want to Yeah, I get that, sir Annie. So
(40:58):
I kind of asked it, a but what is the
future hold do we? What can I expect if I
go on your only fans right now? By the way,
folks at Serenity Cox links in the episode description, as
always as they always are, we support creators here. Am
I getting any nut that I want it?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
But?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Am I getting any polished stuff? Am I getting you?
And your daily life with your husband?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Am I? I know you do no pay per view?
I believe I read that.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, okay, awesome. So what is the experience, the Serenity
Cox experience if I sign up for your of today?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Okay, so the Serenity Cox experience if you never pronosi
this is great.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
So my only fans is uh, subscription only, no pay
per view.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It is just two videos a week of me and
my lifestyle doing what we do. Generally, it's my husband
filming me with a gentleman, sometimes with a lady and
sometimes other two videos a week, plus little updates in
between photos and that. But I get asked a lot.
(42:06):
I don't do any of the paid custom stuff. I
don't see any of the pay per view stuff. It's
just what I want to post and I'm just thankful
when people want to tune in and watch that. And
I also do a monthly live stream, which is always
my most fun time of the month. Is just an
(42:26):
hour of intimate uh on well people on one with.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Sure, I have to say, and I'm not just blown
smoke care. I really respect that you are in this.
It seems like for the right reasons. And I think
your message is awesome. I think your message on fucking
nursing is awesome and I've never considered that before. I
have read you are very tied in with sexual health,
(42:52):
and you promote that right really hard.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
And do you like to promote sexual health?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Sure, I just kind of let it go.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Should all be promoting sexual health in this industry?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, but you're qualified to do it.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
If I stand on a corner handing out condoms, I
look like a real fucking weirdo.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You're a nurse.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
You're able to talk about sexual If I start doing
listen biologically, people go, you're an idiot.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Don't speak to me.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So we need more qualified people like you speaking about
important issues in the world.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
So yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's only people.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Actually, a lot of people do ask in my in
my private messages on only Fans. One thing I do
like people and know is that I do answer all
my messages on OnlyFans myself. I don't use that platform
for for sexting. I use it for communicating, and a
lot of people do ask me like really great questions
about sexual health and about relationships and about you know,
(43:44):
what I'm doing, and like it's have some great conversations
in my only messaging and I love that, But I
don't sext and a lot of people don't like that,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
All right, they'll get over it.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
They can enjoy the two videos a week and everything
else and then head on over to Vixen and see
all your scenes. But most importantly where they can head
is the episode descriptions, so they can make sure they
follow you across all social media.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Folks.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's free, so at least if you have no money,
you're broke. You can't sign up for the of follow
her on social media, and most importantly, if you do
have that, right there you go and hey on follow,
follow all the Vixen accounts, and then when they post
a clip of her scene, go, oh my god, I
heard Serenity before.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
She's so great.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
You should have her on more and also pay her
more money anyway, and give her more creative control. Type
that out literally word for word, Serenity Cox. We can
find you at Serenity Cox. And thank you so much
for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Thanks for shotting with me. I'm going to watch a
ballgame now,
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