Good Evening Britain, with Alistair McConnachie Ep 144. 25 June 2025

Alistair McConnachie of pro-UK unionist campaign group and think tank, A Force For Good (AFFG), and viewers discuss:
- Welcome.
- Please do give us a like and share to help us reach new people.
- Our successful activism, and our video reached over 130K views.
- Our activism on this day in 2022, "Bruce to Elizabeth" Celebration.
- Our new book "Protect our Country" is coming soon!
- Migrant can stay in UK because he doesn't want his beard shaved off! 
- The word "persecution" has been stretched in law to include much which is not!
- Video of our guest Nick Mitchell at AFFG's "Free Speech Rules" Rally in George Sq, 23-4-24.
- GUEST: Nick Mitchell from WeSayIt Podcast. Topics include: Danger of SNP;  Nick's activism and brand; our Dover activism; Great British National Protest movement; podcaster Craig Houston visited Dover last week; the SNP will continue to push mass immigration and membership of the EU; the small boats represent an existential crisis in the UK; the small population of Scotland could be very quickly changed; DEI only exists in Western ideology; Nick's contact details below.
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This is the 144th episode of "Good Evening Britain" broadcast on Wednesday 25th June 2025.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, and welcome to Good Evening Britain, a Force for
good weekly show coming to you live from our studios
here in the heart of the great British city of Glasgow,
with me your host, Alistair mcconachiey. We are broadcasting on
all our digital platforms throughout the United Kingdom and across

(00:24):
the world. We're bringing you quality pro UK comment and
analysis every Wednesday from seven until eight pm on Facebook,
on YouTube, on x and also on TikTok. Folks, please

(00:46):
do send in your greetings. Please tell us where you're
watching from on this evening, wherever in the country or
the world it may be. Tell us what's on your mind.
We've got a few things on our mind tonight which
we'll share with you. We've also got a great guest

(01:07):
coming up at the bottom of the hour at seven
point thirty. It's the one and only Nick Mitchell from
the We Say It podcast and Nick's been on the
show before, is a great friend of the show. Some
of you will remember him from our event which we

(01:31):
held last year. This is Nick here, that was at
the event back in April, the twenty third of April
twenty twenty four when there was a massive well, not
a massive, but a very not even a very large

(01:51):
when there was an SNP rally in George Square at
the opposite end of the square, and the reason we
were there was to cause grief for Homsy Yusef by
basically telling him that we did not like his recently
launched hate Speech Act, and so we called that the.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Free Speech Roles.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Rally back in April of last year. Nick was one
of the great speakers at it. Doctor Alan McManus was
another speaker. I was a speaker there and basically all
of us, all of the people who came out to
demonstrate against HUMSA, were very vocal speakers in the sense

(02:38):
of making their point of view heard, especially when Hamsa
Yusef came onto the stage and he was not best
pleased at the fact that we were calling out his
hypocrisy for promoting such a problematic anti British free Speech Act,

(03:01):
which unfortunately is still the law in Scotland. But maybe
people will be elected in such a way that they
can dispose of that in time. Anyway, we'll be talking
about those sorts of issues and much else with Nick
at the bottom of the hour at seven point thirty,
very much looking forward to that. Please stick around for that.

(03:22):
If you're on TikTok, you won't see that because it
will be on the video screens here. So if you
want to watch our interview with Nick, check out YouTube
or Facebook or x where we are currently streaming. And folks,
do give us. Do give us a repost on X.

(03:47):
Do give us a like on X. Please drop in
a comment if you can, because that will make sure
it gets out to lots of other people. If you're
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helps also, and of course on Facebook, give us a share,
give us a comment, say hello, and give us a like.

(04:08):
And what that does is it gets out to other people.
The software algorithms pick up the fact that people are
watching something, people are liking something, people are reposting something,
and it will send it out further through the system
for other people to hear about it. So that's a
really good way of getting it heard by other people.

(04:31):
It's just simply clicking on the like giving some kind
of some kind of engagement. Anyway, folks, how are we tonight?
Who is first in? Debbie was first in? Good to
see Debbie says, good evening, one and all. She says
she loved Trump dropping the F bomb. But that was something,

(04:53):
wasn't it. That was an unusual thing. He seemed to
be blowing off a little bit of steam. He wasn't
too happy. Yesterday some people saw that went viral, obviously
seen by millions. Derek says, good evening, a FFG family.

(05:14):
Hope everyone is doing well. Hope you're doing well also
as we hope Xanna is doing well. High to you
and to Catherine, and good to see Dominic in the house.
Greetings to you, Dominic Christophers as a wonderful British evening
to all, and good to see Derek from Armadale and

(05:38):
Eric all the way over from Ohio. Wonderful. I hope
things are good in Ohio this afternoon or lunchtime. Perhaps
Catherine reposted this stream. Thank you that helps if you

(06:02):
can give us a repost brilliant stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Good well.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
The various things I want to just touch on tonight.
The first thing is, as you know, we're running a crowdfunder.
It's a twenty eight day job. We're halfway through. We
are at fourteen days, the fourteen day moment, and we're

(06:27):
about eighteen percent of our goal. Last time I looked.
So anybody just want to keep us going for the
rest of the year, want to stick in a fiver
or a tenor or more, please do take the opportunity
to jump over their crowdfunder dot co dot uk forward
Slash Summer twenty twenty five. And we've got some rewards

(06:48):
there as well for those who want to climate. If
you want to make a donation, you click on the
reward button of your choice and one or two people
have been picking up this rebadge which will send you
for free otherwise worth six pounds a union jack heart
with a Force for Good written through the center of it.

(07:12):
Very attractive little badge. That good stuff. Now talking about activism,
we were out had a very successful day of activism
last Saturday. There was a Scottish Nationalist march in Sterling.

(07:36):
They have these marches in Sterling once a year to
commemorate the Battle of Bannockburn, which is a very interesting
part of British history and we remember it also, although
not perhaps from the Scottish nationalistic point of view, but
just from a wider British point of view. Anyway, we

(07:57):
always film and count the the they call it. They
all under one banner marches a UOB marchies, and they
get smaller each time. And what we did with this
one was we counted it and we put it set
to some music and the video lasts for just about

(08:21):
fifty six seconds. So let's just play that now. Well,

(09:24):
that was put together rather amusingly by one of our campaigners,
and that video as soon as we released it. We
released it I think before they had even got to
the Bannitt burn field, and we had counted them in
at three hundred and twenty eight and so they didn't
dare after that give a number of actual people that

(09:49):
they claimed to have been on it, but three hundred
and twenty eight there. So we put that out and
it got fifty eight thousand views on x across various accounts,
twenty thousand views on our Facebook reel, nineteen thousand views

(10:13):
on the Facebook browser, eighteen thousand on Instagram reels, over
fourteen thousand on TikTok, and almost three thousand on YouTube,
giving a grand total so far of one hundred and
thirty two thousand views of that video that you've just seen,

(10:36):
which really is quite extraordinarily good activism for the activists
that went over and did that, and to those who did,
thank you very much for doing that. And all we
can say to the Auob people is we know you
having a march in Edinburgh in October, and guess what
we'll have our We will have our secret special Forces

(11:00):
spy team keeping our BDI on you there as well.
And we've made a bit of a name for ourselves
because we've been doing this now since twenty eighteen, and
we have been keeping a close eye for historic posterity,
because the worst thing that can happen is fifty years

(11:22):
from now somebody reading a history book that says the
Auob people had a quarter of a million marchers in Edinburgh,
when the reality was recounted them at just over eleven thousand.
So this is how falsehood gets written into history. And
I was reading another article this morning about a fight

(11:45):
in the seventeen hundreds between thirteen thousand people. I was like,
no way, it was the Battle of Vinegar Hill, that
was it. They came up, It's a battle in what's
now the Republic of Ireland, and it was saying there
was thirteen thousand British troops involved and this is seventeen something.
I'm like, that's massive. That's massive. I can't be right.

(12:10):
That cannot be right. And so I have this theory
that people just backed up in those days. People just
looked at a big crowded guys and he goes, what
do you think that is? In the reality is it's
maybe like eight hundred or something like that, and they'll
go twenty thousand and that gets written into history. That's

(12:31):
my theory. How I'll ever approved that, I don't know,
especially when you go back to those days. But anyway,
that's a lot of diversion talking about Sterling though today
the twenty fifth of June was the day three years
ago that our organization was in Sterling watching the All

(12:53):
under One Banner March in Sterling that year, and it
happened to be the year of the Queen's Jubilee, Platinum Jubilee,
and so we thought, what we'll do is we'll combine
our count with an actual celebration of Robert the Bruce
from the wider British historic point of view, because the

(13:18):
present day royal family is a direct descendant of Robert
the Bruce. So we had this brilliant banner done which
will stick up a picture of and it said Bruce
to Elizabeth and where is that picture.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
There?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It is Bruce to Elizabeth, our great British monarchy. So
we're given a historic education for the folk there about
the line as it were, how it came down from
Bruce to James the sixth of Scott's who then became
the king of all of Great Britain from which the

(14:04):
present royals are descended. So that was a good day
that was taken early on the day with but three
times that number. Let's go to the next pic. Three
of our activists there. Okay, that's a nice picture. The well,

(14:25):
let's go back to that other one. The the hoodies
there they say British Together. You can get that from
our te Spring dot com shop. Have we got the
tea Spring dot com shop banner? Let's see if we do.

(14:46):
It's one of these websites that doesn't put up. Yeah. Basically,
just go to our shop and there's a link there
to our T shirt and hoodie store. That's the best
way of accessing those very co hoodies. Okay, next, pick

(15:06):
some really good flags there, some really good flags. Next
pick let's get rid of that shot banner. There we go.
Stud That was back when Studgeon was still in charge,
studgeon destroying Scotland from within colorful, colorful chat there. Okay,

(15:28):
so that was that was back. That was back. That
was three years ago. So folks, if you we'd love
to do more of that activism, we do have more
activism coming up. We're going to be out three times
in the next month and if you'd like to help
us do what we do, then please the crowdfunder banner

(15:50):
there is going along the bottom crowdfunder dot co dot
uk forward slash Summer twenty twenty five. Now, folks, in
quarter of an hour, we've got Nick Mitchell coming up,
looking forward, looking forward to that. Some of you know
that we've been engaged in writing a book. It's volume

(16:10):
two of a big book for the Union. This one's
going to be called Protect Our Country. The first one
was One Big Country. This one's going to be called
Protect Our Country. This one was about how Britain comes

(16:31):
together within the Union, and the second one is going
to be about how if you have a country, you
have to have proper border control. And so it's going
to be dedicated entirely to policies for effective border US
security which will make our country sovereign and secure. And

(16:55):
above all safe for us all. And it's going to
be about one and a half times the size of
that one. It's going to be that thickness plus but
another half it could actually be twice the size of that.
But the thing is, when you get to it printed
by Amazon, the thicker it is, the bigger it is,
the bigger charge Amazon is going to take. And so

(17:16):
the more we have to we have to charge the customer.
But I'm hoping that we can sell it at twelve
ninety nine or less. But instead of being twenty eight
thousand words, it's going to be it's going to be
pushing forty thousand words, all original, all unique, all new,
just like our article that we did that we did

(17:38):
last week, rather a chapter that we wrote and that
we've actually put up called a new Asylum and Refugee Program,
which is a forty five point program to control the
borders around the English Channel, which we are going to
be going down and having a look at in July
with our friend Nick Mitchell and others. And we'll be

(18:01):
talking about that when we bring Nick on. But talking
about crazy, crazy stuff. Today, it was announced in the
Daily Telegraph that somebody has been prevented from being deported
to Tajikistan because apparently the authorities there don't allow men

(18:25):
to grow beards because they are concerned about Islamic extremism.
So if you're a man with a beard, you get
it shaved off, believe it or not, just learning this today.
There it goes, migrant can stay in UK because he
does not want to shave, and the Telegraph is good

(18:46):
at putting up these click bait titles that just drive
people up the wall and are guaranteed views, but are
also correct.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Tagik man wins appeal after arguing could be arrested and
have his facial hair forcibly removed if deported. Now, just
to give you a little bit of background on that,
Basically what he's claiming is under Article three of the

(19:17):
European Convention on Human Rights, it says, quote no one
shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment
or punishment. And so if you're in this country, then
you can appeal against deportation if you feel that you're
going to be subjected to torture or to quote inhuman

(19:40):
or degrading treatment or punishment. Now, the thing with that clause.
I mean, it sounds fair enough on its face, but
like all of these things, the definition of what is
inhumane or degrading gets stretched in time. It gets stretched time.

(20:00):
I mean, in the old days, what was degrading in
you know, London, was if you robbed somebody, you got
stripped naked and put in a gibbet and hung from
a bridge and for all of the winter until you
like expired. Now that's not exactly what's going to happen
to that guy if he goes to Tajikistan. It's just

(20:22):
going to get his beard shaved off, which will no
doubt be very humiliating, very annoying. But it's not exactly
what I would say torture. But that's been expanded, The
definition has been expanded. And that particular clause, which is
Article three, doesn't have a an exemptions paragraph beneath it.

(20:44):
All the other articles in the ECCHR have exemption clauses,
which mean that the first paragraph will not apply to
you if you are a dangerous criminal, if you are
a threat to national security, if you're a threat to
the democracy, et cetera, et cetera, And so there's always

(21:05):
a paragraph to and exemptions or what's called a conditional clause,
which very often is there in order to exempt certain
behaviors that aren't included under the first article. But Article

(21:25):
three does not have an exemptions clause. It's just if
you say you're going to get tortured or degraded or
subject to instrument punishment, then that we just kind of
have to take your word for it, and we have
to obviously adjudicate upon it. But what has now happened
is that that's got stretched to the point of absurdity.
Let's put that back up again to see what else

(21:48):
they say about that. In Tajikistan, beards are unofficially banned
by the government and hundreds of thousands of men have
been arrested for having one. Okay, unofficially banned, but they
still arrested. Men are arrested, shaved against their will and
have their fingerprints taken by police. It is part of
a government campaign to try to prevent men from becoming

(22:10):
radicalized and joining Islamic extremist terror groups. He initially his
initial claim was dismissed, but he appealed and secured a
further hearing of his case after it was ruled that
being forced to have his hair removed amounted to persecution

(22:31):
rather than being the result of social pressures. Okay, well,
that's that word persecution again, and that also has been
stretched considerably. In our forty five point program which is
going to get published. In our book, we point out
that originally, if we go to the UN Refugee Convention,

(22:54):
which is a different convention, If we go to that,
what we find is that persecution was defined as a
direct threat to life or freedom. In other words, if
you were on if there was a clear and present
danger that you were going to be killed or you
are going to be unjustly imprisoned, then you could climb asylum.

(23:15):
And to be frank, we need to get back to
that definition, which will mean throwing out decades of case
law that has expanded that definition of persecution. And however,
so long as we are remaining part of the UN
Refugee Convention, then the courts will tend to be obliged

(23:40):
to follow all the previous case law on what does
and does not amount to persecution. And so you're going
to get lots of ridiculous claims being made for people
who are not in danger of having their life threatened
or their freedom threatened. They're simply in danger of being

(24:01):
in a situation which they'd rather not be in and
which might be mildly unpleasant, but is not going to
be life ending. So we need to get back to
that sort of thinking. Really, if less, unless we're just
going to say that anybody who's living in a state

(24:22):
of misfortune or in a war zone or something like that,
that they're all entitled to asylum, that's just unworkable because
there will be hundreds of millions of people like that
in the world every day forevermore, and they can't all
come and live in Glasgow, even though it seems like

(24:47):
that's exactly what's happening at the moment. Folks, We've got
a friend, Nick Mitchell coming up at the bottom of
the hour. Stick around for that. Thanks for the folk
on TikTok. Now, when we bring on our guests, we're

(25:09):
gonna have to say goodbye to the folk on TikTok.
But what you need to do, folks is go over
to YouTube dot com forward slash uk A Force for
Good and you'll see the interview with Nick. Or also
go over to our ex dot com Forward slash uk

(25:31):
A Force for Good to see the interview with Nick
because you won't be able to see it on here.
Hi to everybody though who is watching, and for the comments,
I'm going to say hi to all these folk.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Good good.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now, let's just run a quick video of Nick here.
This was Nick at the Freese Beach Rose Rally. It's
a little bit chaotic.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I just spotted this one today and it gives you
a flavor of the event last year, last April twenty
twenty four. Let's won that just now.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
A.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Better listen. I will not be silent, that is my walk. No,
you will be because you want You're going to end up.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You know what minutes?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, very good. The last words that I heard there
was I'm actually here to stand up for that mob too.
And I'll ask Nick what he meant by that. Now
let me just see is Nick in the house ship folks,
Please do say hello to Nick before we do that.

(27:40):
I just want to see that we've got everything yet, Nick.
Good evening to you.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Good evening, alistair and good evening all watching a long Yes,
Why am good? Why am I there to stand up
for that more? Why would I do that? Why would
I do such an idiotic thing? Very simply, they are
part of the UK. We are together as the UK,
we're together with Scotland. They will be controlled the very

(28:08):
same as we will be if the SMP get in
in twenty twenty six, they will be decimated like the
rest of us in twenty twenty six if the SMP
get in again. So it takes one man to speak up,
it takes all of us to stand together, and together

(28:29):
we need to stand because we cannot allow the SMP
to get back and in twenty twenty six it just
cannot simply happen. It will be the detriment of Scotland.
It will be the end of Scotland as we know it.
If we think we're in bad time, bad times now,
we're going to be in even worst times come twenty
twenty six. And that's why I'm standing up for that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Mob exactly, exactly exactly. Yeah, they were down at the
other end and we were up at the other end,
and they were unfortunately just following without much thought the
whims of the SNP people, and Homsey Yuseff as well,
who thankfully resigned about seven days after that event. So

(29:17):
I would like to think that in a small way,
you and I and everybody who was there put some
sort of psychological pressure upon him to say, well, do
you know what, I've had enough of this at this
precise moment. Of course, there was other factors in there.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Also, but.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It was a successful event and your speech went down
extremely well. You were extremely eloquent and well received, I
might add, and you had also been at the Scottish
Parliament earlier that month. Actually when month, Yeah, it was

(30:02):
the first of April. It was the first of April,
because I remember that Humsey Yusef launched the act. It
became an act on the first of April, and everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Thought that.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
A, yeah, so we've we've got a picture of you.
There they go. I control my tongue, not the government
nor the police. My freedom of speech is my human right.
I will not be silent. And I think that's basically
the mission statement behind your your podcast that we Say

(30:39):
It podcast, was that how long has it been going for?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Now?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Nick? I think we're going into our proper second year.
This is like our so I basically launched it properly
January last year, and so we're going into it halfway
three of our second year basically, so we're still pretty
much early days. We are still building. We're still going. Unfortunately,

(31:08):
I just lost my main TikTok account, so I'm completely
banned on TikTok no surprise they have, so I'm having
to start again. Posted a couple of videos of some
old Billy Connolly comedy on quite a relevant topic actually,
just to try and build up it. Sitting on something

(31:29):
like eighty six thousand views or something, so very good.
You know, we're getting there, but I'm trying a different
avenue to try and rebuild this TikTok up. But yeah,
so it's been a slow process, but we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well, what I think is really good and what I
like about your podcast is the name. We say it
three words, three syllables, and it immediately grabs your attention.
And you've got a good design there can see the
design in the background. You've got branded hoodies and also caps.

(32:07):
Also that it's a very good vehicle. Good name, good
image can definitely can definitely travel if one is able
to navigate the types of platforms that you're on. The
one that you're on which are no doubt allows you
to say whatever you want is rumble dot com, where

(32:30):
people just go on there searchful. We say it podcast
and you're on that, and you're also on.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
X as well. I think Rumble still quite a new concept.
A lot of people, a lot of people don't actually
know what it is. It is effectively just another it's
like another YouTube. It's just completely one hundred percent freedom
of speech. I can literally say anything I want. I
will never be banned, I will never have a bit.

(32:58):
I never had a violation, never had a video removed, nothing.
I think I've had about a dozen videos removed from
YouTube and constant violations. And that's people told me I
should use YouTube, but I just I just can't. I
just can't. But that is what that is. Sometimes I
get a bit too excitable.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, Now Rumbo is still in as
far as the United Kingdom is concerned. It's still very
much not really known by people, and it's not been
that necessary in Britain because generally speaking, YouTube has has
has delivered the goods. We do have a backup channel
on rumble dot com. Every week we upload one of

(33:43):
our videos, the full show. We upload it onto rumble
dot com just as a kind of backup as well,
but we don't really get the views on there at all.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yes, that's a hard platform, especially for Britain.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, for British creators, it's very much an American type
platform where you'll get you'll get lots of stuff, but
it means it's open, it's free. All you need to
do is type in rumble dot com and your life
could change overnight. For some of the some of the
some of the political and just scientific things and stuff

(34:21):
that you read. It's like I've never you know, it
is life changing in many ways as far as hidden
information is concerned. But that aside, let's not talk about
that at the moment. Let's talk about you and I
and some colleagues are going down to Dover. Now. This

(34:42):
is going to be on the nineteenth of July. And
it was basically your idea. You were the one that
got all of this in motion one day when you
contacted me. Would you like to tell me what was
your original thoughts about why we should go to Dover?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, so I had this idea around about February and March,
I think it was, And I thought, you know what,
me being me, I'm quite skeptical about everything. I believe
nothing of what I hear and only half of what
I see. So yes, I see the videos. I see
the videos of the people coming in on the boats.

(35:19):
I see the posts. It was one thousand today, it
was four hundred today, it was a twelve hundred today.
And I'm going my degree of skepticism going, is it
really this bad? I'm not saying it's not, but is
it really this bad? Let me see for myself. I
am going to go here myself and I am going
to witness it. If I need to spend a week

(35:40):
down there, I will spend a week down there. But
so I thought, you know what, let's put this plan
into motion. Let's find a day. Let's organize a day
or a weekend to go down speak to some of
the locals, get their thoughts, what's happening, how they feel

(36:01):
about things, how they see the future going, et cetera,
and see exactly what is happening now. It just so
happened that this I'm going to call it movement appeared
out of nowhere, the Great British National Protest, and I
went along to Phase one in Edinburgh. So Phase one

(36:22):
was consisted of seventy two locations throughout the whole of
the UK, where we basically just gathered together in our
city's Edinburgh, Glasgow, Sterling, per Dundee, et cetera, et cetera.
And so that was phase one. So that was just

(36:42):
putting the word of mouth out there. Now we're going
into phase two. Phase two is get toed Over. That's
it in a nutshell, get to it over by any
means necessary. That's people watching along tonight. Tell your friends
whoever get to Dover on the nineteenth of July. This

(37:03):
is bigger than me. This is bigger than yourself. This
is bigger. This isn't about what I've kept saying. This
isn't about me. This is about my future generations i e.
My kids, my grandkids, and further down the line of succession.
And it's the same for all of us. If we
don't do something now within the next three years, three

(37:29):
to five years, if I can come twenty thirty, the
UK will no longer look like the UK. We will
be decimated, we will be gone, We will be the
minority in this country. Whether you choose to admit it
or not, this is what's going to be happening. So
if you are able to make the journey, absolutely do

(37:51):
it now. This is phase two. Phase three is already
in motion. I am in communication with Richard, the guy
who basically started this movement. We'll call it a movement
because it's not. Now, this is key. It is not
a protest, right, it's not a protest because the local

(38:17):
Council of Dover have said we cannot hold a protest
on the beach. Right, prepare yourself for this. This is
a Billy Connolly take right now. We are not allowed
to hold a protest on the beach because it will
endanger the weeds on the beach. This is the This

(38:39):
is their excuse. It will and it will cause damage
to the weeds on the beach.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Some sort of rare plant that they're climbing is going
to be there.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Just the weeds, Just weeds. That's it. That's it. That
is the excuse to give. So we're not going there
as a protest. We are going there as members of
the public because it's publicly accessible. This is what we
need to remember. But I have two series on this now.
First of all, I am fully expecting to have a

(39:14):
resistance there. Now, this is getting bigger as time's going on.
There will be a resistance, I'm positive. Not sure who
it's going to be from, but it will be there.
Second of all, I think the authorities will get wind
of this and they will make sure not a single
boat enters the United Kingdom on the nineteenth of July.

(39:40):
I go, I guarantee you not a single boat will
enter on the nineteenth because we will be there. Now.
We have an ASA powered sleeve here right as in me,
you and our colleagues that are going down. We are
traveling down on Friday. We will be partaking in the

(40:05):
not a protest on the Saturday, but we will also
be there on the Sunday. So now we can hang
about a little bit on the Sunday just if just
on the off chance, you know, we'll see something that
the others won't. So we've got that little ace up
power sleeve.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Absolutely good thinking. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, And things go the way I think, which I'm
very really wrong, but I think this we will get
the better end of the deal. Yeah, but we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah. Yeah. The authorities are going to know that there's
going to be this this demo not a protest, as
you said. And I don't know how many people will
be there, but i'd like to think several hundred anyway
go be able to amass and we can't, as you say,
get onto the beach because if the beach isn't particularly

(41:05):
big in the center of Dover, it's a shingle beach
as well, it's not it's not a sand And as
you're saying there, the authorities seem to be saying that
there's little weeds growing up between the stones that need
to somehow be protected on this particular day. As if
what we're going to be doing anyway walking about pulling
the weeds out, I don't think so. I mean, we

(41:26):
will just be leaving them there. But nevertheless, that seems
to be the way that they've got round it. Dover
as well has this terrible MP called oh tap Tapp
what's his first name? I can't recall, but I once sent.
I once left a message, you know, I comment under
one of his one of his posts, saying, you know

(41:48):
you're the Dover MP, it's your job to stand up
for your constituents. You should be trying to stop this happening.
You should be trying to say, my constituents don't want
all this carry on happening and down in the dock,
et cetera. Et cetera. And he just blocked me. He
just blocked me, and apparently he does that with everybody.
But that's the person that we're that's the the MP.

(42:08):
So maybe we can find find out where his his
constituency office is and we can hold our big banner
if we can raise the funds for it through our
crowd funder, we can hold a big banner outside his
constituency office saying Asylum frauds out. And that would be
that would be an extremely good thing that we could do.

(42:30):
I'm making a note of that right now, so I
don't forget it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want
to say what the name is without getting the right
but visit his office and we'll also walk get some
good shots with the White Cliffs of Dover. The White

(42:51):
Cliffs of Dover. I've never been down in that area before.
I've never seen the white cliffs. That will be something
to get some some good shots there. We can get
some good publicity shots of that in the background. One
of the great podcasters up here, Craig Houston, went down
to Dover last week and he got some video footage
of what was going on there, and I'm glad he

(43:13):
went down because I watched his video and so and
now I know where the boats are coming in at
what particular dock that they're coming in at, which one
to head to. So as a consequence of that.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Actually I was speaking with Craig. Craig actually went down
thinking that the event was this month and he was like,
oh no, he said, oh no, it's July. It's not June.
So it kind of worked it okay form at the
same time, you know, it was a win.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Win, Absolutely, it was a win win because he got
some great video content out of it and gb News
contacted him as a result of video content and it
looks like he's he's well, he's been on twice now
on gb News, so hopefully that's what very well for him.
Congratulations to Craig Voice of Common Sense, one of our

(44:06):
own here from Glasgow. So yeah, that's that's really good.
I'm really looking forward to that and making a few
new contacts also, no doubt, and are you planning on
any posters or anything.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
So I've got I'm going to be making up three
banners or not banners sorry, three boards kind of like
the one that I had at Hollywood. Whether I will
not be silent. I'm not going to disclose what's going
to be written on them as such until the day
they will be secret locking tight. I know for a
fact that one of them will ruffle a few feathers.

(44:53):
But you know what, I've never been one to shy
away from confrontation, so I'm here for it. But going forward,
obviously this is this is something that people actually need
to understand, is a very very serious issue as to
what we're dealing with in this country. If you don't

(45:15):
see it as a very serious issue, then I don't
know what to tell you. People's lives are going to
be affected by this in one way or another, and
especially now. I had this thought the other day, especially
if the SNP win, and as we know, they're still

(45:36):
pushing this independence both. This is the this is their
one and only trick, the one trick, pony. This is it.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
If Scotland does get independence, let's not go down that road.
But if it does, the first thing they're going to
do is get us right back into the EU. That's
rule number one. That's what they're going for. The body
said it, we're get independence, We're going back into the EU.

(46:05):
You watch our shows, not over not England. You watch
Scottish shores be infiltrated on mass with immigrants because there
will not be a damn thing we can do about
it because of the EU, and we'll have to take them.

(46:25):
We'll have to take them.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
We are not too bad up here. Now, we do
have a level of immigration up here and illegal, but
we're not as bad as England yet. But you if
people can honestly sit there and think, sitting in their
chair at ten to eight on a Wednesday evening with
a cup of tea, that it's happening at England, they're
going to get to the border of Scotland and go No,

(46:49):
we don't want to go any further. Well, okay where
we are. No, don't be so stupid or iive. They
will absolutely come into Scotland and we will be overrun,
especially if independence happens.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, that's one hundred percent true. Absolutely, And what we
must try to encourage people to understand now, and I
think some people more people are coming to understand it,
especially young people as well, is that this is actually
an existential crisis. Now by existential, I mean existence is

(47:26):
a crisis of our actual existence as a nation. And
you look at Scotland where five million Native Scots, probably
a little bit more, and that's a very small population
and as such, it's a very fragile population that can

(47:48):
easily be replaced because the number of people of that
five million who are actually sustaining the Native Scots is
a smaller proportion. It's only a you know, people between
the ages of eighteen and forty or whatever are doing that.
And so what John Swinney wants He looks at that

(48:10):
and he goes, well, the native population of Scotland is declining. Well, okay,
so it's declining. That doesn't necessarily matter so long as
the borders are secure, and so long as that population
can live secure within that border, it can be declining
or it can be stable or whatever, but it's not
a danger. But when you say the population is declining,
so we're going to open the borders and bring in endless,

(48:33):
the endless billions of the other of the rest of
the world, then your population can just be totally swamped,
totally replaced, very very quickly. And we see that happening
in these big English cities. London now is what is
it thirty percent white? Well, I remember walking about London

(48:56):
in the eighties, which is forty years ago, and it
was very much overwhelmingly just a traditional English, native English city.
So I was reading a statistic today that in New
York City, which just recently, just yesterday elected a Muslim mayor,

(49:17):
of the population of New York City, only forty percent
are born in America. So in other words, it's no sorry,
it's forty percent born born, So forty percent and not

(49:40):
immigrants of second or third generation, but ones who have
come in in this lifetime. In their own lifetimes, forty
percent of the population of New York City was born
abroad right now, so it's just going to turn in.
I mean, New York City used to be largely thought
of like as a Jewish city. Now it's going to

(50:01):
be a Muslim city. And that's what happens is that
these these numbers will just replace you. And then when
it gets to that stage, you can't vote your way
out of it. I mean, nobody's when Scotland becomes fifty
one percent non native Scots, nobody's you know, reforms never

(50:24):
going to win. And obviously people will say, oh no,
there's there's there's there's Muslims that will vote for reform. Yeah,
of course there certainly is, but they are the exception
to the role we're talking about just huge numbers of
people and how they just naturally go with their own
particular interests which are not necessarily going to be yours

(50:47):
of mind, easy to be replaced.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I could work of a benefit here. Actually, just look
at the double edged Sardia. We could become the minority,
which means we could become the protection d classes here.
So we might become the protected classes. We might get
special treatment for being white.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
And I've got I've got a theory on that. My
theory is that diversity only works if you have a
majority white ruling class and a majority of white society
because because whites are the only ones who believe in that.
So that's the irony. If you're a liberal, you should
actually want societies to continue to be majority white and

(51:31):
majority of white governing because these are the only people
who believe in diversity. Once it turns the other way,
you'll find that you know that we're not going to
get the special treatment because the other the other groups
of people don't don't really understand that concept or why
it should even be a thing. It's very much only
very much white liberal thing.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
D d I only exist in Western ideology. You you
go to the Middle East and you talk about d
and they go, what what's that? They don't know? And
I know this first time because I was in the
Middle East last year and yeah, it's like, what do
you think of DEI? And they go, what's that? Is
that some like agency or something like CIA M I

(52:16):
five And I was like, no, it's diversity, equity and
inclusion And then they go, what it's it's it's a
foreign concept to them.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
It is a foreign concept to them. Yeah. Absolutely, What
country was it you were in?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I was in the United Arab Emirates last year.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
How did you find it?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Fantastic, unbelievable in all aspects, safe, clean, welcoming everything. Basically
the UK is not right now and if you're a
white man, basically me going over there as the foreign

(52:57):
r I was very welcome. Yeah, very welcome. But obviously
going going forward, guys, yes, we've only got a few
minutes left. We need you to stand beside us on
the nineteenth July. If you can make the trip to Dover.

(53:20):
If you cannot make the trip to Dover, don't worry
because Phase three is already in progress and Phase three
will consist of multiple cities again, So after Dover there
will be more details released on Phase three where they'll

(53:41):
be coming again to your local cities Glasgow, Edinburgh, et cetera.
So if you can't make it to Dover, not to worry,
you will get another opportunity to stand beside us and
let your voice be heard, let your your fears be known.

(54:01):
You shouldn't fear this, but at the same time you
should fear it. It's kind of a contradiction there, but
we have our reasons as to why we're doing what
we're doing now. Obviously, me and Alistair and the other
couple of gentlemen heading down we are only a little number,
but together we can be stronger. Hence why Alistair goes

(54:25):
on about what he does, stronger for Britain, Stronger together,
Britain together, et cetera. And that is how we need
to remain at the minute. We need to remain together.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
One hundred percent. Nick, and Dover's not an easy place
to get to. We struggled to figure out how best
to get to it, what the cheapest way was, and
we came up with the car as being the only
really way that our particular group can do it at
the lowest possible cost because that because of that, So

(55:02):
that's unfortunately there's no room in our car, the car
that we're using for anybody else. I'm sorry to say,
it will only fit the four who are going down.
But as you say, there will be other opportunities. Now, Nick,
just to say thank you, you're on x dot com,
forward slash we Say It podcast, and if you go

(55:25):
to Rumble dot com you're on there as well. Simply
just search we Say It podcast.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
In Rumble, I would say Rumble. I would say, guys,
if we can get onto the Rumble channel, that would
be greatly appreciated. That is where the big things happen,
if you want to call it that. That's where the
true words come out, the true freedom of speech. So
if you can drop me a follow on that as
well as follow Alistair, follow Alistair on all of these

(55:53):
socials as well, Rumbo is going to be if you eventually,
I would say, in the next one to two years,
they're doing massive things over there and they will end
up taking over because of simply their morals and where
they stand on the freedom of speech. Because as we

(56:14):
know freedom of speech is also being attacked in the UK.
One instance is obviously this Lucy Connolly case which has
gone on quite extensively, which a lot of people are
talking about now. How a mother can be jailed for
thirty one months for posting something on xus baffling to
me and like, how is that possible? You know, But

(56:37):
that's another conversation. But yeah, thanks you for Alistair, for
having me on. It was an absolute pleasure as always.
And if I don't speak to you, which I probably will,
but if I don't speak to you before July, which
is highly unlikely, I will be looking forward to seeing
you and as we take our long ten hour car

(56:57):
journey down to over because I feeling that's also what
it's going.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
To take exactly. And once we're there, I know that
you'll be creating content for your viewers on the We
Say It podcast. We'll be doing the same. We'll be
able to have interviews and share content and should be
should be a good piece of activism. Very much looking
forward to it.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Okay, thanks for having you on, and we'll say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Good evening, have a good one, guys, good.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Excellent good Nick Mitchell. From that We Say it podcast.
Really looking forward to doing some collaboration, as the kids
say these days, down in Dover with a couple of
other colleagues. We've been planning it. We'll want to get

(57:51):
our book launched at IT. We want to get a
banner made up, and we're going to need a wee
bit to help us when we're down there. So anything
that people can offer at the crowdfunder dot co dot
uk forward Slash Summer twenty twenty five would be much appreciated.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
We're halfway through our crowdfunder. It ends on the ninth
of July, and we are not asking for very much.
We're not asking for even as much as John Swinney
earns in one week. And so you don't you know

(58:35):
that we do spend our income extremely frugally and extremely well,
and so you know it's not going to go to waste.
There's no money here even for salaries. This is all
just for costs, costs of keeping the show on the road.

(58:57):
Costs for example, of keeping this stream yard streaming software
going each month, which is around about forty pounds or
so just every month from that alone, as well as
the cost of the other platforms that were on podcast
platforms and other such domains. So, folks, it's been a

(59:20):
great show. Kathleen there says, says thank you to Nick,
great chat and good luck. Looking at other comments that
maybe I could have read out earlier in the show,
Debbie's talking about Sterling. She says the silent clownsman said
on Saturday that he misses your banter and our presence

(59:41):
must be pretty boring for them. Now that was the
chat that used to stand in front of their march
with his yes banner and his saltire spectacles. Good stuff,
good stuff, okay, folks. Derek says it was a brilliant show.
Auxanna says thanks, and it's a fabulous broadcast. Rafa says

(01:00:03):
bye bye Alistair and Nick. And they thought it was
a nice live stream. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it, Rafa.
Christopher's has great content and analysis. Thank you, good screenshot
for the future. We'll be back next week. We've got
another guest next week. It's Damien from down in the

(01:00:25):
Liverpool area. He's been on the show before, always a
great guest. He's a Reform party man. He'll be telling
us how they're getting on down there. That will be
next week, looking forward to that. In the meantime, it
just remains for me to say God Bless the United
Kingdom and God Save the King. See you next week.