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Guthrie investigates the death of a woman found dead in a car trunk.
Original Air Date: November 29, 1951
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Guthrie investigates the death of a woman found dead in a car trunk.
Original Air Date: November 29, 1951
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(00:28):
Welcome to the Great Detectives of OldTime Radio from Boise, Idaho. This
is your host, Adam Graham.If you have a comment, email it
to me Box thirteen at Great Detectivesdot net, Follow us on Twitter at
Radio Detectives, and become one ofour friends on Facebook, Facebook, dot
(00:50):
com slash Radio Detectives. Today's episodeis brought to you by the financial support
of our listeners. Thanks so muchfor your support. I do want to
to encourage you to take a lookat the articles we've got a Great Detectors
dot net. On Saturday, we'llI'll be posting my review of the history
(01:11):
of Harry Nile Set three, andthen also on Sunday, I'll conclude with
a look at the most dramatically powerfulepisodes that we've done in the Great Detectors
of Old Time Radio. We willcelebrate one thousand episodes with a second download
on Tuesday, so I'll be lookingfor that. Well. Now it's time
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for today's episode of the Lineup theRailroad Roundhouse Roundup case. Ladies and gentlemen,
we take you a noile behind thescenes of a police headquarters in a
great American city where one of thecold, glaring lights will pass before us,
the innocent, the vagrant, thethief, the murderer. This is
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the enough. Oh man, arecline? You're busy tonight? Yeah?
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Stillman, boys are in the line. Half of the people in here witnesses.
We stillman boys are popping. Isn'tthey deserve a good audience. We
are still going to play Tuesday asfar as I know. Yeah, look,
uh, this time, let's settleon a limit and stick to it.
Yeah, it starts getting out ofit. Sure it doesn't. It's
a stupid partner of yours. Havestupid irish. He gets real courageous when
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he wins a few bucks diamond JimGrebb, I think he's been taken ground.
Kid. Let's stay away from someof those wild clings. He gets
a low ball with Jack's wild.What is that really? Well, it's
almost that he had something wild andlord oh he didn't play and he was
just kidding with my money. Hewas kidding. May I have your attention
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be few people out there on theother side of the wild the audience.
Okay, thank you. My nameis Greb, Sergeant Matt grev i' let
to spread the line up to you. Each and the suspects you will see
will be number. I'll call offa number, the name and charge at
the end of each line. WhenI ask for questions or identifications, call
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out the number. If you're shore, are not too short of a suspect,
have him held the officers who tookyour name. When I assist you,
they are seated among you. Whenthe prisoners leave here, they are
sent to the last room and dressback into their jail, for it makes
it quite difficult to bring them backafter they leave here. The questions I
asked these suspects, I'm merely toget a natural tone of voice, So
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do not pay too much attention totheir answers, as they often lie.
Okay, bring on the line,all right, come on, keep it
moving right over here at the endof the stage. Now turn and face
but hands to your sides, lookstraight ahead. When I call your name
and numbers, step out and talkthem. It's a big room, so
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let the people in the back hereyou alright. Number one jewels Simpson Robbery.
You always wear glasses jewels? Well, no, not always. I
go to bed at night. Idon't love the moon. Well that's real
bright of you. Take them up. Well, I can't see. You
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can see pretty good the night ofthe twenty third. Now, well I
had the glasses on the all night. Take them off. Okay, don't
look at me, look at theaudience. Well, I can't look at
nothing. I can't see. Preachangeyour can face front. Okay, where
do you live? The four fortysix North Rivers to Wells? That a
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house or hotel or what? Oh? What? What? Well, it's
supposed to be a hotel, butI just wouldn't swear to man, It's
been called a lot of things.Where do you work? Well, I
ain't him for a long Well,yeah, how do you pay your rent?
Who says I did? The managerof the hotel? He says you
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paid your rent? Well not well, he says that too, but he
says you paid it. Well,I've been getting compensation for what when I
worked the years? Oh, Ihad lots of jobs. I made enough
to get a Social Security number fivefifty seven. They're looking what kind of
a car when you're driving? Whenyou were picked up? There's a bu
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embessy for color. I just don'tknow where'd you get it? Well,
I thought, who'd you borrow itfrom? I just don't remember that your
memory is weaker than your eyes.Well, I guess it is. Have
any weapons on you? Oh?No, The arresting officer found a thirty
two automatic in the growth compiled.Well, it's not mine. With the
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guy who owned the car. Hemust have put there. I'm clean on
my hat. Okay, step back? Can I put my glasses on?
What it's? The guy could breaka rig up? He sure could not
step back? Oh can number too? John? Still Where do you live?
John? East Side? Chalk upeast Side and your people hear him
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up there? I told you whenyou walked down here, talk up?
Now, come on, do it? You scare me east Side. I
don't want to scare you. John, just telling the people what you do.
I'm not working. Did you eversure? Sometimes when I was a
kid that much future in it?You're arrested with anybody? Oh? Just
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Bob and trast Bob and Travis Stillmannumber three and four? Any weapons thirty
eight called automatic, thirty eight Smithand Lesson revolver two rifles, one single
shot and at thirty thirty going happened. That's a funny remark. Hold you
had take your hand out of yourpockets. Okay, okay, now,
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how where you live? I toldyou where on Eastside seventy eight, one
hundred and eighth street. Step backhere, yes, father, that's number
three. Travis stillman, Come ontrap, come on, come on moving
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you look at where do you live? Same place as John? Seventy eight?
Next week I should Bob, don'tlive with us? Story married I
last, Bob. Okay, tellthe people when you were arrested. Where
you arrested? In alley? Inan alley? Whereon cru pack creak?
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What were you doing in that?F A kid from me in a less
are? Yeah? So John isn'tworking anyway? Howld I I as you
got a call from mister Arthi Fisher, manager of the Parkway Hotel in Lexington.
How much I Yeah? I foundmy body at one of his telling
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stuff in the trunk in the basement. Oh here, Ben, how long
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you been here? Aw? Aboutten minutes? Boys a woman. Yeah,
just with a minor examination, I'dsay she'd been dead about a week
in the trunk. Yeah, itlooks like strangulation. It's a little hard
to tell right now, but I'lldo one off top. See as soon
as we get her downtown. Okay, I'll see you down there, right
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okay, boys cleared up. Where'syour manager in his room? The names
Fisher. Let's go talk to him. You haven't had one in a trunk
a long time. Any identification?One ond of tenants. Fisher said her
name was Greener. He ud where'sher husband? This way being locate the
husband three eleven. But the husbandhasn't shown up. Fisher says he hasn't
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seen him for about a week.This is it. A woman's been dead
about a week. You got somebodylooking over three thirty eleven. Yeah,
cargo's up there. We talked withFisher, so about it in cargo.
Oh, come in, mister Fisher. This is uh doan Guthrie? How
do you do it? I ammister Fisher. Sit down, sit down,
please it I thank you. Iunderstand the woman was one of your
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tenants. Yes, Uh, canI get you something? Some coffee or
something? No, I mean turningcold out? I put some coffee on
the boyl Yes, the woman ismissus Green. She lives, maybe I
should say live in free with herhusband and mister Green. Yes, he
hasn't been around for about a week. I'll bet he did it. Uh
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with both of them gone for aweek didn't you miss h When Green left,
he said he and his wife areplanning a short trip. I didn't
think anything until I opened that trunk. Boy, that was the most awful
thing I've ever seen. I'll thinkabout that the rest of my life.
Did the Greens arguement? Not toomuch? They had a couple of good
wood. But who don't wait mywife gets home. She never did like
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Green told me I should get ridof them. Why she want that?
She didn't like him. Green toldher the mind of business one day,
and she didn't like him after that. Not much reason though, she you
and me. I wish small peoplewould tell my wife the mind of business?
What do you know about the Greens? Where they come from? They
told me Kansas City, Missouri,Missouri. Oh yeah, there's a Kansas
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City Kansas, isn't it? No? They didn't tell me which, just
Kansas City. What was his firstname? Joe Hurstus Louise. What day
you leave? Six days? Abouta Tuesday? I think I'll make sure,
but I'm pretty sure it was Tuesday? And how long have they left
him? About three months? Whatdid Joe Green do? I don't know.
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He paid his rent. I neverasked him what he did. He
went very friendly, didn't go outmuch, but won a good description.
Oh, I can give you that. You know. I never thought i'd
get mixed up like this. Youread about things like this, but you
never think you're going to get mixedup in the coffee. I think it's
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boiling over the excuse me? Surewell you think ben? I don't know.
Husband, sure looks like it.It isn't. He gotta have a
good storing. Wow, how didgo? I don't know. Somebody killed
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a woman and stuffed her in thetrunk. Yeah, I heard everybody's making
coffee. I was getting tired.You want something, Yeah, don't take
a cup. Any suspects her husbandhe disappeared about the same time the woman
was killed. Manager gave us apretty good description, and lab boys got
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some clear prints from the room runninga check on them. Mound Hey a
little strong, and it probably is. I didn't measure. Got any identifications
on the Stillman boys. Six.Oh great, I had a little trouble
too. You missed a good show. Rap Stillman got sore this kid brother,
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we nearly hit a family, fuckedon the stage. You made better
coffee, Yeah, Bob Stillman's clothesI think maybe he's going to tell us
all about it. You need me, he likes you. Okay, we'll
be down. Can I come here? Yeah? Say, maybe you should
bring some of that coffee. Youcould give it to stillman one swallow all
that stuff. And you confess toanything, You're sure you get them grouchy
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in your old age. And you'dthink, after being married eleven years of
at least to learn how to makea good cup of coffee. Molly's neglected
my education. Oh no, Idon't blame your false on that sweet little
girl. Ah, you're prejudiced becauseyou te tell you what about the woman
in the trunk? How long?Dave says about a week? He's done
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an autopsy. Now, I hopethe lab comes up with something on those
prints. How'd you go? Whatfar? Oh? I'm tired, Let
me get some sleep. Hello,Bob, Who you're tired? Eh?
Bo? Who's that you got?Three? Oh? I'm real tired,
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Lieutenant. Can I rest for awhile? You know? In my case,
Bob, I have to ask clan. I've been asking him for the
last hour. They won't tell mewho else was an apprentice job? You
know who else was in on?It? Worked? On traving. John
just blame. But I'm Bob hereand nuts. You're just trying to work
us. Look, Bob, sixwitnesses identify the three of you. For
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Pete's sake, lay off. Idon't care if six dozen people identified us.
I'm just tired, Bob. Yeah, yeah, what is it?
But it's important. I wouldn't.If you're smart and you're I can't,
well you better. We got areport on us, Prince from Green's room.
You know where Green is. BennyKirk got an FBI kicked back on
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him. A really interested in theway I should be. They rate Kirk
number one. I'm not gonna havehim. Who wouldn't. What about the
woman's rifle? Right? They're marriedin Collington, Kentucky in nineteen thirty eight.
If she's got a minor record,got an APB a few minutes ago,
we wait for me. I'll beright out. Don't believe what you
said, Bob. We know whatyou were doing, and why keep fast.
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I've got to work on this far. Aleve them, Cline, I
won't be able to stick around.Okay, but I look bumb. Take
my advice. You're gonna save yourselfa lot of trouble if you yeah,
yeah, yeah. Do you knowBenny kirkbam, I heard of him?
Who hasn't? Yeah, he's anumber one boy in your world. He
just did a sloppy job of killinghis wife, Kirk Yeah, kickbak.
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He stuffed her in the trunk andskipped. So what's that got to do
with me? You're twenty eight,aren't you? That's right. When Kirk
was twenty eight, he was probablya lot like you, not the same
recond he's only around thirty three.Now, look what's this all? Think
about it? Man? Now he'skilled somebody an LA eight the five.
He is dead inside of a year. If you catching, we will think
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about it. Come on, man, what is it? Five card?
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Come on? It's about time Iwon one. You get a load of
a stack. What are you gonnado when you can't see over them?
Man? Look around the corner.Okay, face is high, nicole here,
give me five boys? Five four. That's the way he wins,
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wins? You ready for him?Come on? Come on? Throw one
in okay, six? Hey,pair bet them little free two bits?
You incline? Uh no, everybodyrun them three seven possible straight an come
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on, come on, come on, you've seen before. Yeah, all
night. Well you're not then,what are you beefing about? I'm beefing
too. Yeah, two bits.Everybody getting to be a man of pride.
Well if they're so proud, whydon't you raise me? Not stupid?
Come on run them everybody then?Yeah, yeah, okay, every
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it's fair. Yeah, nine's stillpossible. Yeah for the King Altair that
was fugitive sort is in West Virginiaholding Bunny Kirk. They got him and
they're sending him up and beyond tomorrow'strain. Yeah, that's a further night
cap. We get the prosecute.I'm betting the half any confession, and
they didn't say come on, comeon, come on a half a half
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and you're proud of those two asthey're worth the half. I'm on,
Well how about you, Dave?Oh, raise your half? That's gone,
Dave beat his brains out. Anybodywants some beer? Yeah how about
you? Yeah your money if youwant anybody else? Yeah, I'll have
one. Let me see you're fiftyand fifty more. Oh no, I
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think you're gonna make us believe I'mnot trying to make you numbheads believe anything.
He's bluffled. Well, well whatokay if I take my time,
he's bluffing. I why don't youcall him? Oh? You you gotta
call him? No? Oh yeah, thank you boys, thank you.
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You have them. Come on,let's see your whole time. No,
no, no, you mustn't packnow he was bluffing. Okay, mean
you look at that stack all rightnow? This is going to be low
ball anything wild? Mm one eyejack? I know what's the matter with?
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What do I do about? It'snearly three. Yeah, when he
comes to station naming, he's comingin the yards. No thanks, you
can be down this way cool.Oh that's turning cold, yeah, turning.
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Yeah, we've been pretty lucky forthis late in the year. M
good foot for weather. H that'sright? You picking up anybody special?
Lenny carry m Benny. That's special? Who got him? A rookie in
Elkins, West Virginia does in hisfigure a guy like Kirk beats the best
of them for years and he getscareless and a rookie kitchen there? What's
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I want to Hey? What's that? I don't know? They're sticking duck?
Hey? Yeah, A call Kirkthe office? Who was or Kirk
is hurt. Kirk got away,jumped off the train about a hundred yards
back where the officers come. Now, where's the officer in this court?
Right here and be he needs adoublod I'll give him. Say, Kirk
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jump about a hundred yards back.He was hurt too, He must have
had him that. But out ofcalls around the yards, can I do
something? Yeah? Go stay withthe officer. You're going after Kirk?
Yeah, bleeding, many call it. Don't shoot I work here, don't
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shoot it. You're looking for someguy house rouge. Some guy you're looking
for him, tall guy. Hehad two guns. I'm looking for him.
I'm a police officer. You bettersit down. Yeah, Oh,
he's sure bell at me. Lookat all that blot? And which way
did he go into the roundhouse overthere? He was hurt. I just
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ran into him and he slugged mewhen I asked him what he was doing.
Okay, you better take it easily. Know, I got to get
to a doc. Getting dizzy.There'll be some men long in a minute.
I better get to a doctor rightaway. I haven't found it good,
but never lest good. I gottafretch. Will you take it easy?
I've got to get another round house. Watch it. So he's hurt
and he's mean, and just lookhe didn't shoot me. Okay, you
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take it easy. Yeah, youbetter take it easy too. He's got
two guns. Kak, Kirk,stop it all right, give it up,
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Kirk. I'm hunt coming and stupidtalking to prink set me in the
before, please, Heny, Igive it up. We'll get you to
a doctor. Give it up forwhat I've turned. Okay, and what
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do you want to do. Idon't want to how long I can stay
alive. I want you not comein a different I got all the time
in the world. Kirk. Hey, Kirk, come on, you're hurt,
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Come on out now, get youto a doctor. Kirk. You
see Copper, you ain't got thetime you think. If I don't make
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a noise, maybe because I'm dead, then you come in man's blowing yard.
Head off. I can wait.I might just die on you.
You wait all night. I'm gonnabe putty comper. I can't win,
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but I'm gonna make you win forme, your sha head, Kirk.
I gotta die anyway. I doit my way if I can get Jill
already in a stinking captain fucking see. You're not even warm. You're gonna
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come back to get me. You'regonna cost a lot of open brown.
Go on to down. You won'tpick me off, Kirk. I'll be
enough guns in here in a minute. Go up my sock. I got
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three three that concert, Fridy Todd, you get that? I got six
ball left. You're heavy, astupard bed I got six ball. I'd
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say it, but you already buddy. Else then kick down? Watch Where
is he on the other side?And I can't spot him? There's a
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lot of ground between Yeah, andhe likes it. He's hurtainly wants to
shoot it out. Man, keepyour head down. Yeah, what is
it? Where is he on theother side? If you come over with
do it on your face? Thenyeah, couldn't couldn't somebody get down that
side? Wow? Keep him busy. He says he's behind three feet of
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concrete. I guess get it?Fine? Yeah, man, bring a
gas, got you bring a couple, Kirk, come on out with your
hands up. Oh, we'll guessy'all escape. He's no worrying about it.
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Yeah, here he comes fun.Yeah, it's over there someplace.
It's a big area. We gotsix shelves and then start dropping them over
there. All right, well,bit I find it. You've got a
beat. I'll take that side fromthe center truck. Okay, Kirk,
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I'll give you one more chance.Okay, ready, yeah, yeah,
all right, give it to him. M hm h uh. Farm is
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too open. Yeah, it's holdhim pretty well, all right, give
him the other form space him aboutten yars a part right, yeah,
go ahead, h yeah, hewent, Yeah, he's going. You're
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lacking here. He comes back.I can't see him. Ye, don't
take me. Yeah, he's downwith me. Yeah, let's get him
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out of here. This stuff ismaking me sick. Hey, h ooh,
bitch Amy the lineup or before youpassed the innocent, the vagrant,
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the thief, the murderer. Listenagain next week when we again bring you
the lineup. Hey, I haveyour retention. Read a few people up
there on the other side of thewire the audience room, May I have
your attention? Please thank you.My name is Greb, shouting Matt greb
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alexplain the lineup field each to thesuspect. You will say will be numbered.
I'll call off a number the nameof John. If you have any
questions identifications, please remember the numberside of the present. The line up,
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starring Bill Johnstone as Lieutenant Ben Guthrieand Wally Mayer as Sergeant Matt Grebb,
is written by Blake Edwards, withmusic composed and conducted by Eddie Dunstetter.
Featured and tonight's cast were High Everback, Howard mcneer, Peter Leeds,
Clayton Post, Dave Young, SidneyMiller and her Butterfield. The lineup is
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produced and directed by High Welcome BackWell. What stands out to me in
this episode is the performance of WallyMayre as a sergeant Matt Grabs. Sadly,
this is believed to be the lastoriginal episode featuring Wally Mayer. There
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are two other episodes, but bothare marked on the Digital Deli as possible
rebroadcast, so this very well couldhave been the very last one that Wally
Mayer originally recorded, with the twoprevious ones being reruns. This episode aired
on on November twenty ninth, nineteenfifty one. There were a couple episodes
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after that, the December sixth onthe Bastile Bound Bad Boys case, but
that one we don't have in ourpossession, and then there was three episodes
that were marked by the Digital Bellyas possible rebroadcast. Mayor died on December
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twenty seventh, nineteen fifty one,a little less than a month after this
episode aired, and it was definitelyI think it's going to be hard to
imagine the lineup without him because hereally brought a great amount of humanity to
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the character of Matt Gribb and reallythis great dynamic between him and Bill Johnstone.
That's just a classic. I haven'tlistened to a ton of the post
Wally Mayor episodes, but it's definitelya huge loss to the program. It
should be noted that December nineteen fiftyone was not a good month for great
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radio character actors, playing the sidekitcharacter on a detective shows that same month.
Earlier in December, bartiny Yarborough,who played Ben Romero on Dragnet,
passed away, and they actually madethe episode The Big Sorrow in which Ben
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Romero died in the story I've neverheard in any of the episodes I've listened
to Postmatt greb any acknowledgment of thecharacter, but he actually died on the
day that The Big Sorrow aired.Well, here Greb. I believe in
a couple of these future episodes thatare rebroadcast, but this is the last
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original one, and in many waysI have to wonder, as I've listened
to this performance by Mayor, howmuch this influenced the character of Frank Smith
that would come on Dragnet because thecharacter that Wally Mayre played was very different
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than Ben Romero. Romero was,I think while he was married, he
was a lot more of a grumpycharacter, while Mayor played Matt Greb as
this very quirky, fun character wasjust a lot of different characteristics, including
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trying to get the single lieutenant marriedoff. So it's it's definitely as I've
listened to this, I can definitelysee how somehow or another, if not
influencing Jack Webb directly, it mayhave influenced Ben Alexander. I mentioned this
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possibility before, but Ben Alexander wasa game show host and businessman prior to
taking on this responsibility, so it'sfair, and he was a fan of
Dragnet, so it's possible he alsocould have listened to the lineup as well.
So it's definitely an interesting question asto how much you know Dragnet definitely
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influenced the start of the lineup,but did the lineup in some way influence
the much better known Dragnet program.All right, well, that will do
it for today. We'll be backwith another episode of the Lineup next week.
In the meantime, send your commentsto Box thirteen at Great Detectors dot
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Welcome to the Great Detectives of OldTime Radio from Boise, Idaho. This
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of our listeners. Thanks so muchfor your support. I do want to
to encourage you to take a lookat the articles we've got a Great Detectors
dot net. On Saturday, we'llI'll be posting my review of the history
(01:11):
of Harry Nile Set three, andthen also on Sunday, I'll conclude with
a look at the most dramatically powerfulepisodes that we've done in the Great Detectors
of Old Time Radio. We willcelebrate one thousand episodes with a second download
on Tuesday, so I'll be lookingfor that. Well. Now it's time
(01:36):
for today's episode of the Lineup theRailroad Roundhouse Roundup case. Ladies and gentlemen,
we take you a noile behind thescenes of a police headquarters in a
great American city where one of thecold, glaring lights will pass before us,
the innocent, the vagrant, thethief, the murderer. This is
(01:59):
the enough. Oh man, arecline? You're busy tonight? Yeah?
(02:38):
Stillman, boys are in the line. Half of the people in here witnesses.
We stillman boys are popping. Isn'tthey deserve a good audience. We
are still going to play Tuesday asfar as I know. Yeah, look,
uh, this time, let's settleon a limit and stick to it.
Yeah, it starts getting out ofit. Sure it doesn't. It's
a stupid partner of yours. Havestupid irish. He gets real courageous when
(03:00):
he wins a few bucks diamond JimGrebb, I think he's been taken ground.
Kid. Let's stay away from someof those wild clings. He gets
a low ball with Jack's wild.What is that really? Well, it's
almost that he had something wild andlord oh he didn't play and he was
just kidding with my money. Hewas kidding. May I have your attention
(03:21):
be few people out there on theother side of the wild the audience.
Okay, thank you. My nameis Greb, Sergeant Matt grev i' let
to spread the line up to you. Each and the suspects you will see
will be number. I'll call offa number, the name and charge at
the end of each line. WhenI ask for questions or identifications, call
(03:45):
out the number. If you're shore, are not too short of a suspect,
have him held the officers who tookyour name. When I assist you,
they are seated among you. Whenthe prisoners leave here, they are
sent to the last room and dressback into their jail, for it makes
it quite difficult to bring them backafter they leave here. The questions I
asked these suspects, I'm merely toget a natural tone of voice, So
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do not pay too much attention totheir answers, as they often lie.
Okay, bring on the line,all right, come on, keep it
moving right over here at the endof the stage. Now turn and face
but hands to your sides, lookstraight ahead. When I call your name
and numbers, step out and talkthem. It's a big room, so
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let the people in the back hereyou alright. Number one jewels Simpson Robbery.
You always wear glasses jewels? Well, no, not always. I
go to bed at night. Idon't love the moon. Well that's real
bright of you. Take them up. Well, I can't see. You
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can see pretty good the night ofthe twenty third. Now, well I
had the glasses on the all night. Take them off. Okay, don't
look at me, look at theaudience. Well, I can't look at
nothing. I can't see. Preachangeyour can face front. Okay, where
do you live? The four fortysix North Rivers to Wells? That a
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house or hotel or what? Oh? What? What? Well, it's
supposed to be a hotel, butI just wouldn't swear to man, It's
been called a lot of things.Where do you work? Well, I
ain't him for a long Well,yeah, how do you pay your rent?
Who says I did? The managerof the hotel? He says you
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paid your rent? Well not well, he says that too, but he
says you paid it. Well,I've been getting compensation for what when I
worked the years? Oh, Ihad lots of jobs. I made enough
to get a Social Security number fivefifty seven. They're looking what kind of
a car when you're driving? Whenyou were picked up? There's a bu
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embessy for color. I just don'tknow where'd you get it? Well,
I thought, who'd you borrow itfrom? I just don't remember that your
memory is weaker than your eyes.Well, I guess it is. Have
any weapons on you? Oh?No, The arresting officer found a thirty
two automatic in the growth compiled.Well, it's not mine. With the
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guy who owned the car. Hemust have put there. I'm clean on
my hat. Okay, step back? Can I put my glasses on?
What it's? The guy could breaka rig up? He sure could not
step back? Oh can number too? John? Still Where do you live?
John? East Side? Chalk upeast Side and your people hear him
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up there? I told you whenyou walked down here, talk up?
Now, come on, do it? You scare me east Side. I
don't want to scare you. John, just telling the people what you do.
I'm not working. Did you eversure? Sometimes when I was a
kid that much future in it?You're arrested with anybody? Oh? Just
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Bob and trast Bob and Travis Stillmannumber three and four? Any weapons thirty
eight called automatic, thirty eight Smithand Lesson revolver two rifles, one single
shot and at thirty thirty going happened. That's a funny remark. Hold you
had take your hand out of yourpockets. Okay, okay, now,
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how where you live? I toldyou where on Eastside seventy eight, one
hundred and eighth street. Step backhere, yes, father, that's number
three. Travis stillman, Come ontrap, come on, come on moving
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you look at where do you live? Same place as John? Seventy eight?
Next week I should Bob, don'tlive with us? Story married I
last, Bob. Okay, tellthe people when you were arrested. Where
you arrested? In alley? Inan alley? Whereon cru pack creak?
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What were you doing in that?F A kid from me in a less
are? Yeah? So John isn'tworking anyway? Howld I I as you
got a call from mister Arthi Fisher, manager of the Parkway Hotel in Lexington.
How much I Yeah? I foundmy body at one of his telling
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stuff in the trunk in the basement. Oh here, Ben, how long
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you been here? Aw? Aboutten minutes? Boys a woman. Yeah,
just with a minor examination, I'dsay she'd been dead about a week
in the trunk. Yeah, itlooks like strangulation. It's a little hard
to tell right now, but I'lldo one off top. See as soon
as we get her downtown. Okay, I'll see you down there, right
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okay, boys cleared up. Where'syour manager in his room? The names
Fisher. Let's go talk to him. You haven't had one in a trunk
a long time. Any identification?One ond of tenants. Fisher said her
name was Greener. He ud where'sher husband? This way being locate the
husband three eleven. But the husbandhasn't shown up. Fisher says he hasn't
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seen him for about a week.This is it. A woman's been dead
about a week. You got somebodylooking over three thirty eleven. Yeah,
cargo's up there. We talked withFisher, so about it in cargo.
Oh, come in, mister Fisher. This is uh doan Guthrie? How
do you do it? I ammister Fisher. Sit down, sit down,
please it I thank you. Iunderstand the woman was one of your
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tenants. Yes, Uh, canI get you something? Some coffee or
something? No, I mean turningcold out? I put some coffee on
the boyl Yes, the woman ismissus Green. She lives, maybe I
should say live in free with herhusband and mister Green. Yes, he
hasn't been around for about a week. I'll bet he did it. Uh
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with both of them gone for aweek didn't you miss h When Green left,
he said he and his wife areplanning a short trip. I didn't
think anything until I opened that trunk. Boy, that was the most awful
thing I've ever seen. I'll thinkabout that the rest of my life.
Did the Greens arguement? Not toomuch? They had a couple of good
wood. But who don't wait mywife gets home. She never did like
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Green told me I should get ridof them. Why she want that?
She didn't like him. Green toldher the mind of business one day,
and she didn't like him after that. Not much reason though, she you
and me. I wish small peoplewould tell my wife the mind of business?
What do you know about the Greens? Where they come from? They
told me Kansas City, Missouri,Missouri. Oh yeah, there's a Kansas
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City Kansas, isn't it? No? They didn't tell me which, just
Kansas City. What was his firstname? Joe Hurstus Louise. What day
you leave? Six days? Abouta Tuesday? I think I'll make sure,
but I'm pretty sure it was Tuesday? And how long have they left
him? About three months? Whatdid Joe Green do? I don't know.
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He paid his rent. I neverasked him what he did. He
went very friendly, didn't go outmuch, but won a good description.
Oh, I can give you that. You know. I never thought i'd
get mixed up like this. Youread about things like this, but you
never think you're going to get mixedup in the coffee. I think it's
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boiling over the excuse me? Surewell you think ben? I don't know.
Husband, sure looks like it.It isn't. He gotta have a
good storing. Wow, how didgo? I don't know. Somebody killed
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a woman and stuffed her in thetrunk. Yeah, I heard everybody's making
coffee. I was getting tired.You want something, Yeah, don't take
a cup. Any suspects her husbandhe disappeared about the same time the woman
was killed. Manager gave us apretty good description, and lab boys got
(13:03):
some clear prints from the room runninga check on them. Mound Hey a
little strong, and it probably is. I didn't measure. Got any identifications
on the Stillman boys. Six.Oh great, I had a little trouble
too. You missed a good show. Rap Stillman got sore this kid brother,
(13:24):
we nearly hit a family, fuckedon the stage. You made better
coffee, Yeah, Bob Stillman's clothesI think maybe he's going to tell us
all about it. You need me, he likes you. Okay, we'll
be down. Can I come here? Yeah? Say, maybe you should
bring some of that coffee. Youcould give it to stillman one swallow all
that stuff. And you confess toanything, You're sure you get them grouchy
(13:46):
in your old age. And you'dthink, after being married eleven years of
at least to learn how to makea good cup of coffee. Molly's neglected
my education. Oh no, Idon't blame your false on that sweet little
girl. Ah, you're prejudiced becauseyou te tell you what about the woman
in the trunk? How long?Dave says about a week? He's done
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an autopsy. Now, I hopethe lab comes up with something on those
prints. How'd you go? Whatfar? Oh? I'm tired, Let
me get some sleep. Hello,Bob, Who you're tired? Eh?
Bo? Who's that you got?Three? Oh? I'm real tired,
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Lieutenant. Can I rest for awhile? You know? In my case,
Bob, I have to ask clan. I've been asking him for the
last hour. They won't tell mewho else was an apprentice job? You
know who else was in on?It? Worked? On traving. John
just blame. But I'm Bob hereand nuts. You're just trying to work
us. Look, Bob, sixwitnesses identify the three of you. For
(14:50):
Pete's sake, lay off. Idon't care if six dozen people identified us.
I'm just tired, Bob. Yeah, yeah, what is it?
But it's important. I wouldn't.If you're smart and you're I can't,
well you better. We got areport on us, Prince from Green's room.
You know where Green is. BennyKirk got an FBI kicked back on
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him. A really interested in theway I should be. They rate Kirk
number one. I'm not gonna havehim. Who wouldn't. What about the
woman's rifle? Right? They're marriedin Collington, Kentucky in nineteen thirty eight.
If she's got a minor record,got an APB a few minutes ago,
we wait for me. I'll beright out. Don't believe what you
said, Bob. We know whatyou were doing, and why keep fast.
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I've got to work on this far. Aleve them, Cline, I
won't be able to stick around.Okay, but I look bumb. Take
my advice. You're gonna save yourselfa lot of trouble if you yeah,
yeah, yeah. Do you knowBenny kirkbam, I heard of him?
Who hasn't? Yeah, he's anumber one boy in your world. He
just did a sloppy job of killinghis wife, Kirk Yeah, kickbak.
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He stuffed her in the trunk andskipped. So what's that got to do
with me? You're twenty eight,aren't you? That's right. When Kirk
was twenty eight, he was probablya lot like you, not the same
recond he's only around thirty three.Now, look what's this all? Think
about it? Man? Now he'skilled somebody an LA eight the five.
He is dead inside of a year. If you catching, we will think
(16:25):
about it. Come on, man, what is it? Five card?
(17:04):
Come on? It's about time Iwon one. You get a load of
a stack. What are you gonnado when you can't see over them?
Man? Look around the corner.Okay, face is high, nicole here,
give me five boys? Five four. That's the way he wins,
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wins? You ready for him?Come on? Come on? Throw one
in okay, six? Hey,pair bet them little free two bits?
You incline? Uh no, everybodyrun them three seven possible straight an come
(18:00):
on, come on, come on, you've seen before. Yeah, all
night. Well you're not then,what are you beefing about? I'm beefing
too. Yeah, two bits.Everybody getting to be a man of pride.
Well if they're so proud, whydon't you raise me? Not stupid?
Come on run them everybody then?Yeah, yeah, okay, every
(18:23):
it's fair. Yeah, nine's stillpossible. Yeah for the King Altair that
was fugitive sort is in West Virginiaholding Bunny Kirk. They got him and
they're sending him up and beyond tomorrow'strain. Yeah, that's a further night
cap. We get the prosecute.I'm betting the half any confession, and
they didn't say come on, comeon, come on a half a half
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and you're proud of those two asthey're worth the half. I'm on,
Well how about you, Dave?Oh, raise your half? That's gone,
Dave beat his brains out. Anybodywants some beer? Yeah how about
you? Yeah your money if youwant anybody else? Yeah, I'll have
one. Let me see you're fiftyand fifty more. Oh no, I
(19:11):
think you're gonna make us believe I'mnot trying to make you numbheads believe anything.
He's bluffled. Well, well whatokay if I take my time,
he's bluffing. I why don't youcall him? Oh? You you gotta
call him? No? Oh yeah, thank you boys, thank you.
(19:34):
You have them. Come on,let's see your whole time. No,
no, no, you mustn't packnow he was bluffing. Okay, mean
you look at that stack all rightnow? This is going to be low
ball anything wild? Mm one eyejack? I know what's the matter with?
(20:18):
What do I do about? It'snearly three. Yeah, when he
comes to station naming, he's comingin the yards. No thanks, you
can be down this way cool.Oh that's turning cold, yeah, turning.
(20:48):
Yeah, we've been pretty lucky forthis late in the year. M
good foot for weather. H that'sright? You picking up anybody special?
Lenny carry m Benny. That's special? Who got him? A rookie in
Elkins, West Virginia does in hisfigure a guy like Kirk beats the best
of them for years and he getscareless and a rookie kitchen there? What's
(21:15):
I want to Hey? What's that? I don't know? They're sticking duck?
Hey? Yeah, A call Kirkthe office? Who was or Kirk
is hurt. Kirk got away,jumped off the train about a hundred yards
back where the officers come. Now, where's the officer in this court?
Right here and be he needs adoublod I'll give him. Say, Kirk
(21:36):
jump about a hundred yards back.He was hurt too, He must have
had him that. But out ofcalls around the yards, can I do
something? Yeah? Go stay withthe officer. You're going after Kirk?
Yeah, bleeding, many call it. Don't shoot I work here, don't
(22:03):
shoot it. You're looking for someguy house rouge. Some guy you're looking
for him, tall guy. Hehad two guns. I'm looking for him.
I'm a police officer. You bettersit down. Yeah, Oh,
he's sure bell at me. Lookat all that blot? And which way
did he go into the roundhouse overthere? He was hurt. I just
(22:26):
ran into him and he slugged mewhen I asked him what he was doing.
Okay, you better take it easily. Know, I got to get
to a doc. Getting dizzy.There'll be some men long in a minute.
I better get to a doctor rightaway. I haven't found it good,
but never lest good. I gottafretch. Will you take it easy?
I've got to get another round house. Watch it. So he's hurt
and he's mean, and just lookhe didn't shoot me. Okay, you
(22:49):
take it easy. Yeah, youbetter take it easy too. He's got
two guns. Kak, Kirk,stop it all right, give it up,
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Kirk. I'm hunt coming and stupidtalking to prink set me in the
before, please, Heny, Igive it up. We'll get you to
a doctor. Give it up forwhat I've turned. Okay, and what
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do you want to do. Idon't want to how long I can stay
alive. I want you not comein a different I got all the time
in the world. Kirk. Hey, Kirk, come on, you're hurt,
(24:10):
Come on out now, get youto a doctor. Kirk. You
see Copper, you ain't got thetime you think. If I don't make
(24:36):
a noise, maybe because I'm dead, then you come in man's blowing yard.
Head off. I can wait.I might just die on you.
You wait all night. I'm gonnabe putty comper. I can't win,
(25:03):
but I'm gonna make you win forme, your sha head, Kirk.
I gotta die anyway. I doit my way if I can get Jill
already in a stinking captain fucking see. You're not even warm. You're gonna
(25:27):
come back to get me. You'regonna cost a lot of open brown.
Go on to down. You won'tpick me off, Kirk. I'll be
enough guns in here in a minute. Go up my sock. I got
(25:49):
three three that concert, Fridy Todd, you get that? I got six
ball left. You're heavy, astupard bed I got six ball. I'd
(26:14):
say it, but you already buddy. Else then kick down? Watch Where
is he on the other side?And I can't spot him? There's a
(26:34):
lot of ground between Yeah, andhe likes it. He's hurtainly wants to
shoot it out. Man, keepyour head down. Yeah, what is
it? Where is he on theother side? If you come over with
do it on your face? Thenyeah, couldn't couldn't somebody get down that
side? Wow? Keep him busy. He says he's behind three feet of
(26:57):
concrete. I guess get it?Fine? Yeah, man, bring a
gas, got you bring a couple, Kirk, come on out with your
hands up. Oh, we'll guessy'all escape. He's no worrying about it.
(27:26):
Yeah, here he comes fun.Yeah, it's over there someplace.
It's a big area. We gotsix shelves and then start dropping them over
there. All right, well,bit I find it. You've got a
beat. I'll take that side fromthe center truck. Okay, Kirk,
(27:47):
I'll give you one more chance.Okay, ready, yeah, yeah,
all right, give it to him. M hm h uh. Farm is
(28:10):
too open. Yeah, it's holdhim pretty well, all right, give
him the other form space him aboutten yars a part right, yeah,
go ahead, h yeah, hewent, Yeah, he's going. You're
(28:55):
lacking here. He comes back.I can't see him. Ye, don't
take me. Yeah, he's downwith me. Yeah, let's get him
(29:19):
out of here. This stuff ismaking me sick. Hey, h ooh,
bitch Amy the lineup or before youpassed the innocent, the vagrant,
(29:45):
the thief, the murderer. Listenagain next week when we again bring you
the lineup. Hey, I haveyour retention. Read a few people up
there on the other side of thewire the audience room, May I have
your attention? Please thank you.My name is Greb, shouting Matt greb
(30:07):
alexplain the lineup field each to thesuspect. You will say will be numbered.
I'll call off a number the nameof John. If you have any
questions identifications, please remember the numberside of the present. The line up,
(30:36):
starring Bill Johnstone as Lieutenant Ben Guthrieand Wally Mayer as Sergeant Matt Grebb,
is written by Blake Edwards, withmusic composed and conducted by Eddie Dunstetter.
Featured and tonight's cast were High Everback, Howard mcneer, Peter Leeds,
Clayton Post, Dave Young, SidneyMiller and her Butterfield. The lineup is
(30:57):
produced and directed by High Welcome BackWell. What stands out to me in
this episode is the performance of WallyMayre as a sergeant Matt Grabs. Sadly,
this is believed to be the lastoriginal episode featuring Wally Mayer. There
(31:26):
are two other episodes, but bothare marked on the Digital Deli as possible
rebroadcast, so this very well couldhave been the very last one that Wally
Mayer originally recorded, with the twoprevious ones being reruns. This episode aired
on on November twenty ninth, nineteenfifty one. There were a couple episodes
(31:52):
after that, the December sixth onthe Bastile Bound Bad Boys case, but
that one we don't have in ourpossession, and then there was three episodes
that were marked by the Digital Bellyas possible rebroadcast. Mayor died on December
(32:15):
twenty seventh, nineteen fifty one,a little less than a month after this
episode aired, and it was definitelyI think it's going to be hard to
imagine the lineup without him because hereally brought a great amount of humanity to
(32:35):
the character of Matt Gribb and reallythis great dynamic between him and Bill Johnstone.
That's just a classic. I haven'tlistened to a ton of the post
Wally Mayor episodes, but it's definitelya huge loss to the program. It
should be noted that December nineteen fiftyone was not a good month for great
(32:59):
radio character actors, playing the sidekitcharacter on a detective shows that same month.
Earlier in December, bartiny Yarborough,who played Ben Romero on Dragnet,
passed away, and they actually madethe episode The Big Sorrow in which Ben
(33:27):
Romero died in the story I've neverheard in any of the episodes I've listened
to Postmatt greb any acknowledgment of thecharacter, but he actually died on the
day that The Big Sorrow aired.Well, here Greb. I believe in
a couple of these future episodes thatare rebroadcast, but this is the last
(33:52):
original one, and in many waysI have to wonder, as I've listened
to this performance by Mayor, howmuch this influenced the character of Frank Smith
that would come on Dragnet because thecharacter that Wally Mayre played was very different
(34:13):
than Ben Romero. Romero was,I think while he was married, he
was a lot more of a grumpycharacter, while Mayor played Matt Greb as
this very quirky, fun character wasjust a lot of different characteristics, including
(34:35):
trying to get the single lieutenant marriedoff. So it's it's definitely as I've
listened to this, I can definitelysee how somehow or another, if not
influencing Jack Webb directly, it mayhave influenced Ben Alexander. I mentioned this
(35:00):
possibility before, but Ben Alexander wasa game show host and businessman prior to
taking on this responsibility, so it'sfair, and he was a fan of
Dragnet, so it's possible he alsocould have listened to the lineup as well.
So it's definitely an interesting question asto how much you know Dragnet definitely
(35:23):
influenced the start of the lineup,but did the lineup in some way influence
the much better known Dragnet program.All right, well, that will do
it for today. We'll be backwith another episode of the Lineup next week.
In the meantime, send your commentsto Box thirteen at Great Detectors dot
net, follow us on Twitter atRadio Detectors, and become one of our
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friends on Facebook, Facebook dot comSlash Radio Detectives Remember one thousandth episode special
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