The Weird Circle: Murders in the Rue Morgue (EP0996)

Release Date: July 11, 2013

The episode begins with a look at a story of the Prophet Daniel that many think is the first detective story. From Can You Imagine That?

Original Air Date: 1940

A woman and her daughter are brutally killed after withdrawing 50,000 Francs from the bank and Dupin is on the case in Edgar Allan Poe’s first detective story.

Original Air Date: January 2, 1944

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Episode Transcript

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our listeners, including Jason, Aaron, Arnett and Todd will be sending along
access to our pregums not which wedo with all donations of seven dollars or
more. And we're going to goahead and begin today's program. I'm actually
excited about this particular series of programs. We're going to take a look at

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the earliest fictional detective stories written byEdgar Allan Poe from eighteen forty one to
eighteen forty four and featuring August Dupon. Hour before we get started, I
came across a radio program kind ofinteresting. It's an episode of Can You

(01:34):
Imagine That? Can You Imagine That? Was a nineteen forty radio program syndicated
and this was from its thirty fifthepisode, and host Lindsey mccarrey included a
segment on what he considered the earliestdetective story. So let's go ahead and

(01:56):
we will take a listen to canyou imagine that adaptation of Belle and the
Dragon. What would be your guessas to the oldest detective story in the

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world. Well, I think I'vefound it. At least I'll challenge anyone
to find an older detective story.One of the books of the Apocrypha in
the original King James version of theBible is entitled The History of the Destruction
of Bell and the Dragon. Andin this book, I believe you'll find
the oldest detective story in the world. We're going to dramatize it for you,
and here it is now. TheBabylonians had an idol called Belle.

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They were spent upon him every day, twelve great measures of fine flower,
and forty sheep, and six vesselsof wine, and the king worshiped it.
For Daniel worshiped his own God andsaid, unto the King, O
King, be not deceived, forthis is but play within and brass without,
And did never eat or drink anything. What sayest thou, ho,

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my priests, come hither, Yepriests of Babylon if ye tell me not
who this is that devoureth these expenses, ye shall die. But if ye
can certify me that Bell devoureth them, then Daniel shall die, for he
hath spoken blasphemy against Bell. Whatsayest thou, Daniel, and it be

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according to thy word. Come thento the temple of Bell. Then said
the high Priest of Bell. Lowe go out, But thou King,
set on the meat, and makeher the wine, and shut the door
west and seal it with thine ownsignet. And tomorrow when thou comest him,

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if thou findest nuff that Bell hatheaten up all, we will suffer
death, or else Steniel that speakethpalsely against us. So when they were
gone forth the King set meats beforeBell. Now Daniel had commanded his servants
to bring ashes, and those theystrewed throughout all the temple in the presence

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of the king alone. Then theywent out and shut the door and sealed
it with the King's signet, andso departed in the morning. By time,
oh seest thou Daniel, the meatsand the wine are gone. Great
art thou, oh Bell, Andwith thee is noice seat at all hold
o King, and turn up thetemple. Hear'st thou upon the floor where

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my servants have strewed the ashes.Behold now the pavement, and mark well
whose footsteps are these? I seethe footsteps of men, women and children?
He priests, what mean footstep?Oh King, forgive us, for
we have sinned against Steve. Meetus Stoe. We have made under the
table the secret door through this storewe have made Entrey by night we our

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wives and our children. We haveeaten of the meats and drunk of the
wine. Thou has set before Bell, and he shall die. Thus by
spreading ashes on the floor of thetemple, Daniel proved the hooks perpetrated by

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the priests of Bell, and savedhis own life and ladies and gentlemen.
I maintained this is the oldest detectivestory in the world, for it happened
six centuries before the birth of Christ. Welcome back, Well. Definitely quite
a few elements present there, anda pretty interesting program. Our main event

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today is the episode of The WeirdCircle. This was a war time NBC
trans syndicated series with mostly focused onstories with an element of whore, but

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this one plays mostly strongly in theoriginal detective genre in which in which basically
Edgar Allan Poe created, and we'llsee here a lot of things are quite
familiar in this adaptation of the firstof the DuPont stories. We don't have

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cancel list, unfortunately, but wedo know that. According to the Digital
Delhi, this episode aired November twentyof nineteen forty three, and the title
is The Murders in the Room Morgue, the Weird Circle. In this cave

(08:22):
with the restless seed, we aremeant to call from out of the pastest
stories, strange and weird Bello.Keeper told the bell so that all may
know we are gathered again in theweird Circle the world we again be in

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more tale the murder More gentlemen,gentlemen, please may I have your attention
anyway? I didn't ask you tocome to my humble apartment tonight to endeavor
to stun you with my superior knowledgeof crime and criminals. I've asked her

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here only to prove to you thatthe murders in the room or present no
great insoluble mysteries. Monsieur du paff, you think the case is so obvious,
tell me who is the murderer?He will be here shortly. You
see what I perfect? The policehere? Who is it? Murderer here?
Gentlemen, I give you my wordas a man of honor, that
he will be here in my apartmentat precisely ten o'clock the seat. How

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can you be so sure I haveasked him to come? It is exactly
nine o'clock now, gentlemen, andin the hour remaining to us before we
meet the murderer, I shall explainto you as simply as I can how
I managed to arrive at my conclusion. Yes, due, Monsieur dupin.
I'm always interested in guests work.Yes, work, my dear fellow,
this is not guesswork. No,now, gentlemen, let us retrace the

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case. The story begins if I'mnot mistaken with Madame Weiss Bonnet and her
daughter Camille on the afternoon of Decembersixteenth, eighteen forty one. Well,
of course you're correct so far.Anyway, I vow Monsieur le Prefect,
Madame ais Bonnet and her daughter Camilleentered the Bank of France at precisely two
forty five in the afternoon to transactimportant business. Ah, Madame Lesbinee,

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I've been waiting for you. Sogood of you, Monsieur Lebon. Have
you met my daughter Camille? Idon't think I've had the pleasure. How
do you do, Mademoiselle, Howdo you do? Missieurs levall? Are
you quite sure, Madame Lesbine,that you wished with draw all this money
at this time? Quite positive?But four thousand francs is a great deal
to keep about one's household, Madame. I'm quite aware of a danger involved,

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Monsieur Lebon. But if the bankkeeps this withdrawal quiet, nobody else
need know that I have a sumof money in the house. Well,
friends do get about, Madame.There's no use inviting a necessary danger.
The danger is my problem, MonsieurLebon. I think we'd better let the
matter drop at that. Have youany protection against possible theory at home?
Madame? No, monsieur, butmy man are at protection enough. We

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bolt and lock our doors. It'sabsolutely impossible for anybody to enter the house
unless he should break the door down. But does any male protector live in
the house. My husband died manyyears ago. But doubt miss understands me.
I'm only asking these questions for yourown good. Two unprotected women living
alone in a large house can invitetroubled. That is our problem. If

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Madame insists, and I do insistvery well, Madame, I have the
money here. I myself will seeyou both home to ensure safe delivery.
But let me warn you now,the minute you arrive in your home on
the Rue Morgue, the Bank ofFrance resigns all future responsibility. We understand,
Missieur Lebonne, We understand perfectly,it really does so, gentlemen,

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the first step in this little tragedywas completed. Madam A's bunney and her
daughter insisted on taking the money homefrom the bank. Monsieur le Bonn drove
them in his carriage to their house, the large bleak house number twelve Rumor.
When they arrived there, Monsieur lebond looked about, for the gendarme
was in charge of that particular block. Whoa, whoa, May I help

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you out, mademoiselle commune, Oh, thank you Missieu le bon Madame,
thank you, thank you. Isthat the gendarme on the corner of the
gendarme usually on this block. Nothaving had any reason to talk to the
gendarme, Monsieur lebon I wouldn't know. Yes, I think it is Monsieur
Jean. Not all this fuss overa little money. Really, you'd think

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we were incapable of taking care ofourselves. Well, I think besie Le
ball is very thoughtful, Mamma Jean. Not do you live on the first
floor, Madame Lesboney on the fourthfloor, in the back of the house.
I own this house and I've shutup all the other rooms. You
mean this entire house is unoccupied it, yes, I did. I want

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you to keep a special watch onthis house for the next week or so.
Madame Lesbona and her daughter will havea considerable amount of money in the
house. I will watch the houselike a watch dog. You would be
better off if you did it likea man than you'd use your head instead
of your feet. Masche, whatis your name, Jean, dam muse?
Very well, gendarme, is itour muse? I leave these ladies

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in your care. You needn't worryabout a thing, Mademoiselle and Madame I'm
sure we won't. That is,as long as you don't spread the news
around the neighborhood that we've got fourthousand francs hidden here in the house.
Woo me, Madame. I amthe law and your secret is safe with

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me. Come along, mamma gettinghungry. Yes, dear, thank you
so much for all you've done,Missie Lebonne. It is nothing, mademoiselle,
nothing at all, just a courtesyextended by the Bank of France.
I'll keep good watch. Be assuredof that. I'll keep very good watch,

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gentleman, gentleman, let us proceedto the next event. Jan Dame
Isidore Muse kept a very good watchat Number twelve room. At eleven o'clock
the evening of the tragedy, hestrolled into the shop two doors away from
Number twelve to buy a pouch oftobacco and to chat with the very good
friend Pierre Moreau, a tiny manknown as the neighborhood gossip. Good evening,

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a good evening, good evening,friend, is it? Or good
evening evening. I've been waiting foryou. Yes, I've been waiting for
you. You usually dropped in atnine o'clock. And I said to myself,
as I sat here waiting for you, I said, deck, where's
my good friend? Is it?Or It's been a busy evening this evening,
That's what I said to myself,if is it or doesn't drop into
buy his usual box of tobacco,he's busy. There must be big news

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abroad. But then how could therebig big news abroad on this plot.
That's what I said. You werewrong, dear, very wrong, wrong
e. There is big nose thieveryno. No, Well, then I
give up. It's a secret secretwhat could be a secret. Somebody got

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married, that's no secret. Somebodydied, that's no secret. Either a
child is ill, a contagious disease, an epidemic, or Paris will be
infected. Noose, I capt guessif you promise not to tell a soul,
not a soul, well, MadamLesbiane and her daughter Camille have withdrawn

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four thousand francs from the bank todayand have it hidden in the house somewhere.
No, and I must stand onGod naturally, naturally, but don't
tell a soul. No, nota soul on honor, not a single
soul is at my word. Iswear it now, And so my midnight,

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gentlemen, the entire neighborhood in them Orgue was buzzing four thousand thanks
in the Lesbiony household, I hearit was ten thousand, two women all
alone. Imagine a twenty thousand francs. I wonder where all that jewelry must
be a betitable fortune hidden away?Do you know what they say? She's
got money hidden in every corner ofa house. Imagine almost him and Franks

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in that house. I always knewthere was something strange about those two women
living all alone in a house likethat, and in the rear fourth floor.
Yes, sitting in the bedroom ofthe fourth floor rear. But while
the neighborhood was busy gassiping and chattering, Mademoiselle Camille and her mother were completely

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unaware of the commotion they had caused. It was almost three in the morning.
Camille had just finished undressing, andher mother was sitting in front of
the mirror, brushing her hair sothat they didn't notice the window opening in
back of them. I'm some tired, mamma, poor Camille. It's been

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a very busy day. You know. I thought that Monsieur Lebon was very
nice. He seems fairly affable,Oh, mamma, fairly affable. I
thought he was perfectly charming. Noconcerned over us. No man ever gets
that concern for me must have beenyou darling. All men, see I'm

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not look in the mirror, maycam Kenny and don't know he's had a
razor in his hand. Don't moveKenyan quick, that's hide. He's coming
closer. Wa Kenny. And whereshall we go into the closet, mamma,
could you my mind to the closet, close the door. Don't want
him a raking it down? Terrible, how awful? Quite right, gentlemen,

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simply ghastly. We fully realize thatthis is a horrible atrocity, but
we must remain factual. While allthis was going on on the fourth floor
of number twelve, whom Morgue thegendarme Isador muse, a little tobacconist,
Pierre Morole, you sillybone, whostrangely enough, was in the neighborhood at
that very moment, and the passersby a sailor. All four were attracted

(19:27):
by the screams of the two womenand immediately tried to break into the number
twelve whom I'll stand back everybody whileI break the door down. Stand back.
This is a gendarme's job, andbreak it down is a door.
Break it down. Follow me,everybody, I'll be standing to the ball
floor right behind, right behind cordless. You've gone yes, wait wait,

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wait, listen, listen, wecan tell you. No, it's Russians.
Do no Italian pier. I thinkit's Polish. Oh would you know
Polish? Ever heard Polish bogan?No? No, but good listen again.

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I think it's Posian Russian, andnone of you know what you're talking
about. He stopped speaking. Pesney. Yes, probably skate hairs. Probably.
I wonder try it all. Canyou open it this door? No,
it's locked. I think we're toolate. I'm sure if it's say,

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I've warned you about the gendarme.Oh, let's let's break the door
down. One two three. Look, look what all the entire romansfect just
exactly if a maniac and turn upthe place the bench turn a podcast,
I say, all the seven seas. But I've never seen a place look

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like this in my entire life.Was her leavar. We're a mademoiselle famili
and her mother. I don't know. They're not in here. Look where
they're in the fabla. It's MademoiselleCamin dead, yes, dead dead,

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poor girl here help me, somebodyhelped me lift her up. Look look
this window. The old woman islying in the court yard below. The
sailor is right, absolutely right,she's lying in the courtyard below. Dead
is a dead fish, or probablytwice as dead as somebody is. Guilly

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of this somebody, and as amember of the Paris Police, I mean
to find out who that guilty personis. Yes, gentlemen, is a
dorm musage, and swore up anddown that he would find the murderer.
Well. At four o'clock that morning, I was awakened from a sound sleep

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and called to number twelve Ville Morgueto examine the evidence. Monsieur le gendarme
Muse was running around the room destroyingthe evidence, or at least what little
evidence there was, as fast ashe unearthed it. The three gentlemen who
had been there with him were stillwaiting round out of a combined feeling of
horror and curiosity. The sailor,whose name escape breath, was sitting on

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what was left of the bed,staring blankly around the room. Monsieur Pierre
Moreau, the tobacconist, was watchingIsador Muse the gendarme play detective. He
played it badly, and Monsieur leband was a picture of dejection. I
entered the room and gazed about whileisador splightly with all the facts in the
case, at least from his pointof view. And that is exactly what

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happened. Monsieur Duvan, very interestingthis year is a door muse and now
a gentleman. I wish to askjust a few questions. Go ahead.
All of you seem to think youheard the voice of the murder. Yes,
yes, indeed, well we diddefinitely out about it. And you,
sire, is a door muse.You are positive that the murderer isn't

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a Tagian? Positive, Monsieur Japan, absolutely positive. I could tell by
his intonation. Do you speak Italian? Definitely not. Have you ever heard
it Taggian spoken? No, missieernever, but I am mad. Yes,
you imagine what I imagine it wouldsound like that I see. And

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you and Missie Lebon you said itwas Polish, definitely Polish, without a
doubt. Judge, you have livedin Pollen a long time all but I
heard Polish spoken once once. Yes, that makes you an excellent judge of
the Polish language. How about you, mister Pierremore, what language did you
say? It was Russian. Ithought that, But that's only a guess,

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since I admit, and I admittedvery freely. I'm not a man
to hedge. I've never had aword of Russian in my life, I
thought so. And how about yousaid, I thought it was Dutch.
I don't speak the Dutch language,but I have heard a considerable amount of
Dutch spoken when I was in Hollandeighty years ago, eight years ago.

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I don't mean to make a suggestion, Monsieur de pare, but Missiel Levant
was the only man beside myself whoknew about the money being kept in this
house. What are you insinuating,Monsieur muse insinuoiting. I'm an officer of
the law, and I think itwas very peculiar that you should just happen

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to be in this neighborhood at threeo'clock in the morning. Don't you live
in this neighborhood, missie Le No, but I have good reason to be
here. Oh, so suppose youtell us, well, I was worried
about Mademoiselle Camille. I was ratherattracted to the young lady, and well,
I had a feeling that there wouldbe trouble over the money when I

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was in the corner cafe having sometea until about ten minutes before the murder
occurred, and then you strolled bythe house on your way home. Correct,
quite correct, My tobacco stories openall night. All tobacco stores are
open all night, Monsieur Pierre More. I was just walking by. I
didn't see all the money. Itwas nurturally. Nobody stole the money.
It's in the safe behind this wall. Are you positive? For sire Japan?

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Perfectly obvious that the money hasn't beentouched. These murders were far too
cruel to be instigated by man's greetydesire for financial reward. Here, let
me open the safe and show you. I happened to know an interesting combination
that will open any safe. Ishould have been a thief. Sure there,
I don't open it. Oh,it did naturally. Now look,

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there's the four thousand francs safe andsnug as a four thousand franc group of
notes should be well. Perhaps MonsieurLevaun was interrupted in the midst of his
seaberry. Perhaps he didn't have timeto finish well runs in Monsieur Lebaun was
with you when you walked up thestairs. Whoa an accomplice? Perhaps,
No, no, no, it'sthe door music. Let me show you
something. Look at the fingerprints onthis girl's neck. Very strong, heavy

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prints and very large too. Why. Yes, the murderer must have been
a joint. His hand must havebeen twice as large as mine, and
I have a large hands hands.Yes, yes, the murderer was a
giant, a giant with extraordinary strength. Gentlemen, I think now I have
sufficient clues. Look at this window, it's it's just a window. It's

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just a window with a cord onit, a broken piece of cord.
Clue number one, Clue number two. Look look at the dead girl's hand.
Why she has some hair clutched inher hand. Quite correctly. And
with this cord and this hair,I can find the murderer. Gentlemen,

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Oh oh, and get a goodnight's sleep, and I'll hand the murderer
over to the prefective police. Verymonsieur, du don't forget to mention that
I helped you. I'm due forpromotion soon. I don't care. And

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song as shoes. That is thestory. And you have the fact,
a piece of cord and some hair, the condition of the room, the
strength of the murderer, the passionof the deed, the lack of motivation
should all suggest to you the verysame thing it suggested to me, Monsieur
du Plais. You are talking incircles, so I mean to say you

(27:55):
still don't know who the murderer is. No, of course I don't know,
and frankly, Monsieur dupe, Idon't think you know either. Really,
gentlemen, really, gentlemen, doyou amaze me? Here? Here,
Monsieur le prefect, examine this pieceof cord if you will. What
do you make out of it?Piece of cord? Well, let me

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see, well a piece well nothingexcept that, Well, it's it's been
tors it's been torn. Yes,try to tear it yourself, Well try
to, I couldn't. It's avery very strong cord. Notice anything else?
Yes, now that I look atit's got a very unusual not in

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it. But what does an unusualnot prove? You will see what I
mean. Presently it's the first strokeof TenneT black. Any minute now,
gentlemen, the murderer will enter thisroom. May I please ask you to
extinguish all the candles in the room, all except one? Why if Monsieur

(28:57):
du Pere, will all be hemurdered, which would be no great tragedy.
But I wouldn't worry if, asyou say, Monsieur du pins extinguished
the candles. Gentlemen. Yes,now we are in semi darkness. That
is fine. Listen, gentlemen.Downstairs, door to my poseo has opened

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and closed. The murderer is nowdownstairs. He's walking up the stairs.
Now listen, listen the love watwiath. He's coming closer. Gentlemen,
are you ready to grab him whenhe enters? Yessie is good, good,

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he's standing outside my door now,mister lip prefective ready, gentlemen,
yes, I mean brain, Letme go, Let me go. So
it is you, sailor, helpthe sailor to sit down. It was,
but this sailor doesn't look strong enoughto commit these murder Let me go,

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Let me go, please please,please, don't you see, sailor,
Monsieur le Prefect cannot arrest you forthe murder, because although you are
responsible for the crimes, you arenot guilty. I'm not guilty. I'm
not. I couldn't know. Ofcourse you couldn't, gentlemen. It must
be obvious to you now that noman murdered these two women, the only

(30:38):
creature able to do it would bea bornees a rangatang rangutan. I matched
these hairs I found in the deadwoman's hand, and of course they belong
to just such a creature. They'rerang it. Yeah, yes, with
your dupan is right. But tellme how is this sailor involved? I

(30:59):
only animal you plan put an adin the paper saying my orangutang was captured.
Oh that's why I'm here to claimit. But didn't you realize that
Monsieur Dupin knew that the murder wasorangutang. No. No, I didn't
think anyone could solve the murders.But I didn't know that whoever put the
ad in the paper knew that Iwas the owner of the animal, and

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that he was keeping what he thoughtwas a perfectly innocent animal. You see,
I addressed my ad personally to thissailor. This piece of cord told
me a sailor owned it. Therewas a sailor's knot in the cord,
and the knot was peculiar to thosetied on Maltese vessels. Therefore, when
I put the ad in the paper, I asked the sailor from the Maltese
vessel. I checked him the nameof the vessel from the sailing data in

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the paper, to come and getthe beast or. Naturally, I came
to pick him up. Now Isee one question I must ask sailor.
How did the orangutang get hold ofa razor? And how did he manage
to escape? I had the animallocked in my quarters, I captured him
in Morton, brought him to thiscountry to sell to the zoo. They're

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very smart, you know. Forlast night when I entered my room,
he was trying to shave with myrazor. When I tried to chain him
up, he escaped. He ranout into the streets, saw the light
in number twelve roulong, climbed upthe lightning rod to the ladies apartments.
Well you know the rest. Indeed, we do well, gentlemen. If

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you have any other problems you wishsettled, call on me. Just call
on Monsieur August Dupin. Incidentally,if you'd like to see the arranged thing,
you'll find it safely locked up inthe zoo. From the time One

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Loved the Immodale Murder the mall Ohfrom the time worn pages of the pastor

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we have heard another immortal tale inthe Weird Circle, Gallkeeper told the bell
be here in the Sloanely Cave bythe Restless Seat once again next time,
or another immortal the Weird Circle,welcome back. You can definitely u see

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that the program's Weird Circles general formatwas in that horror genre, but just
by the opening of the show,and I will say that it can be
kind of hard to wrap your mindaround how pioneering this story was because we've

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heard and read and seen it.I copied so many times similar plots,
But for eighteen forty one, thiswas groundbreaking stuff that would really set the
mode for a lot of characters tocome. Even as Sherlock Holmes, there
were some elements. Even though Doylehad had homes in a couple of stories

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criticizing Dupon, there was still someelements there. And also all right,
Agatha Christie had Poirot actually writing abook on Edgar Allan Poe, so there's

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some definite influence here. And there'sa reason why the Mystery Writers of America
hand out the Edgar Award, Sothat's something to keep in mind here.
You know, with all we've heardof Holmes, and all we've heard of
these other detectives, so much ofit really started right here in eighteen forty

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one, and it was a pleasureto bring it to you. And we'll
be back with another dupon a mystery, entirely different actors, entirely different series.
But he only had three cases chronicledby Poe and all were adapted at
one time or another during the goldenage of radio. So it'll be a
pleasure to bring him to you.All right, listener comments and feedback,

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to show us on archive dot org, but it's much more fun to listen

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We also have a comment from Stevewho says, Hi, Adam,

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I've recently discovered your show here inthe UK. I would love to know
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have to follow to get them toa new electronic format. Well, Steve,
I have to admit that my overallprocess is somewhat boring because they're usually

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in electronic condition, actually always,because I don't have any way to adapt
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to reels of old time radio,get in touch with a qualified archivists or
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love old time radio and taken offof the reel reels or off of the
transcription disk and put an MP threeformat. And the vast majority of material
we use can be found at archivedot org. Though it's a it's a

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bit overwhelming to go through. Thereare a couple other sites I use for
downloading the shows and a few othersources, but nothing that we do here
in terms of playing the programs inthe episodes is anything that couldn't be down

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with a little bit of research andinternet effort, you know, and so
mostly off archive dot org. Acouple other science won't go into them all
just mentioning things on the air becausebandwidth restrictions, thumb sides just can't afford

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to have, you know, thousandsof people just start downloading from them.
Archive dot org can, but fornearly every series you want to hear,
you can just go to Google,put the name of the series, Comma
Old Time Radio MP three, andif they're out there, you can usually
find some results. And I'll alwayshave intense respect for those people who have

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the machines and are able to takethem in digitize them. And that's definitely
important because so much of the technologythat's out there for preserving these in hard
copy really can deteriorate pretty rapidly.So as much of this stuff as we
can get digitized, the better,and so I hope, I hope that

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people continue to do that work becauseit really is vital? All right?
Well, that will do it fortoday. We will be back tomorrow where
we will wrap up Johnny Doller Cerealand start out with another card of brown
mystery. In the meantime, sendyour comments to Box thirteen at Great Defactors

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