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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
October, doccomer, Oh, all October long.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
How you doing, Larry, It's like he October Yeah, My
goodness sake, he's Larry Glass. He's our expert here on
the Green Country Gardener. I'm Tom. I just answered the phones,
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if you have a question about your law and your
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Speaker 3 (01:32):
If that pretty nice weather, yeah, I can actually make
some progress on a project if you don't mind the rock.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
If you don't mind the rock.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's terrible. We're doing this irrigation system.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Were you taking it for granted?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, you have to blast.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
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I sure felt like it.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, And uh, accessibility was a little difficult ause you
can't get the machine to the gate, so out there
with picks and shovels and just just rocks piled ever
it with a mess.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
But you feel like one of those chain gang prison.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, we'll get it done though.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We're using a hdpe igh density probably etholine pipe so
it's less likely to crack and puncture and freeze and whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So we're getting through it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Building muscles, were wonderus.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
And pulling muscles too in your back. Good night anyway,
if we got a little bit of rain coming.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It looks like it's starting to look like to develop
over there at the oce Age.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
There was some atmospheric lift over there, but it's kind
of relaxed a little bit. So I guess when the
sun really comes out and makes an influence.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
On oh, give it about an hour.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, it'll probably get anyway. And actually we're going to
have a stretch of good weather coming.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Up this week too.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It looks like it.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Actually I can actually work outside and not die of
heat exhaustion. Actually, at two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
A little bit drying up. I'm mowing that yard in
sixty seven degree eat.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Anyway, it's getting a little bit dry, So you might
want to check out your plants, and well, let's let's
see what happens with the rain. Sure so, and then
if we don't get any rain, I would recommend doing
some some form of irrigation at least on your expensive
shrubs in the r too, and and the mums too.

(03:25):
They might need a little bit of extra water and
so on. So yeah, so anyway, we do have chrosasmums
and bloom at the nursery. We got a little bit
of ones and great big ones, and some of them
have their own zip code, and I mean they're they're
pretty good plants, they are. And the ndinas.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Are starting to show a little bit of color.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
So we got some of those encore zelias are starting
to show some color, so we planted some and they've
been a bit of a surprise this year with our
rather consistent hot weather. They've actually bloomed in some cases too,
so there's a new one out who are going to
be carried the next spring.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's really a very attractive flowers are.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Kind of fringy, licking with red with a little peak
margin on them, and it looks real pretty. So I
guess we're going to get slickered into buy it a
bunch of.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Other probably now that you mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Azalias are a member of a group of plants known
as airicacious plants. Air Ya means that they require a
fairly low pH about five point five pH n r
sol here runs about eight. Yeah, it's clay, so you
have to do some extra preparation for azelias. And also

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they have they have kind of a niature of microclimate
they require too, and this it is away from the
hot sun. If you've ever been to the North Carolina Mountains,
you can kind of see.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Where the rhodod entrons grow naturally.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
They like they're like red bud trees here size wise
and in the spring with the blooms.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Are beautiful around Ashville with a well builtmore house and
gardens if you happen to be there in spring, just
an absolutely spectacular site. But anyway, so they do well here.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
But we have to kind of cater to their environmental
and chemical needs too, but they'd work work pretty well.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
In the last year.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
We wouldn't necessarily make a big mainstay out of them.
Maybe a few groups here and there, just so you're
not overburdened with the watering and fertilizing.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, so when I do it, when I do.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
A design, I like to just kind of make them
accents here and there. There's one house we did in
Woodland Park back in nineteen ninety and we planted an
ageilia at the corner of his house. It's eight feet
tall and went at blooms. It's just just absolutely covered
in them. But we really put the peat moss into

(05:58):
it too, and and there's some little dwarf ews and
other stuff in there too. So it's been a very
consistent landscape all this time. How long is that about
thirty thirty five years?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, so made to last you do it right, Yeah,
and you know, preparation is nine tenths of it. Really.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
You really just can't go, you know, to the front
of your house and dig a hole and put in
something and expect it to grow.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
This is Bartlesville now back in Georgia. When I was
a kid. Yeah, we could do it just you know,
throw the azillia out of the back of the car
and put a little dirt on it. It did fire
because the soil there was a volcanic type soil and
it's a little.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
More acidic if you have the red clay. It's slightly
a city and things did very well. Guardenias too, We
had a we had it our house in Georgia. We
had the gardenias planted around it. We didn't have air conditioning.
You didn't really need it with those big pine trees.
So we turn on the attic van and when the
guardias were blue gully, I think you peel the wallpaper.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Off the wall, hang on deer.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
They were really really uh sweet smell to them.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So anyway, so I guess the point I'm making is
ask about the ground prep when you're picking out these plants.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
What do I need to do to get it? It'll work.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You will thank yourself for doing that.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, and yeah, we've got We've had the ground here
for years. They're doing fine. That's where you put them
and how you prep them right.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
They do like some shielding from the afternoon s et
cetera et cetera. Hydrangeas are kind of the same way
that the big blue or pink hydrangeas we have. Well
you remember litmus paper in school. I do, yeah, And
that kind of tells you what your pH is by
planting a pg Hydranta there, but I bought a blue and.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
His pink, Well about that.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Lower your pH. So they'll do just fine.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Get the prope So.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Anyway, pansies are making a good show right now. This
crueler weather this, I mean this week I think will
be better for the panzies. They don't really like hot weather.
I've been holding off of my house planting them until
it goes down a little bit, and I think this
week is going to be a good week to plant those.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And it got the dirt already, got.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
The compost mixed into the soil, and dug out some
of my iris because they're spreading like crazy, And so
I can have some pansies up in front of the
house for some color all throughout the winter and real
heavily into the spring too. And also when you plant pansies,
trying not to make it's just a solid group. You're
using clumps and groups a plant ahead for next spring,

(08:45):
so you can have some other flowers in between them,
and when it gets really really hot, the pansies kind
of kind of fade away, they die. So some room
in between seating plants, some sun patients or something or
kolis or whatever and amongst them. So you have this

(09:07):
great color show that's bringing them when he gets really hot,
other plants for the takeover. So there's just some ideas
we have to think not only competition, wife, but also
the fourth dimension.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
The fourth dimension time. Yeah, so there we go, Tay
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Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah. Time to maybe plan your land too.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I've got some drawings and after I have an appointment
with a customer this afternoon with a presentation that we did,
so we're going to discuss that and decide what direction
to go in it too. So you know, when we
present a design, you can change it or modify it.
And it's easy to do on the computer.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean it's a lot easier than putting it in
the yard and then saying that I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, it's cool to see it in three dimensions too.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It is I remember back in college using you know,
vellum and what we call yellow trash, which is a
kind of a tissue paper, and we would do preliminaries
on that and stick them up on the wall and
the professors would criticize and say, what are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
What is that anyway? So yeah, so we can do that.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Then these kind of visual things or make it easier
to make decisions.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's for what your landscape's going to do.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So so take a you know, a good look at
your house and does it really look like you'd like
it to?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Your house is your biggest.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Investment it is you're going to be there a while.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, but that and also you want to keep the
value of it up.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Too, and yeah, you're not going to be there a while.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
And if it works, if it looks real slumpy on
the outside, then.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, people will talk.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah they there's that house.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
There's some houses.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
The funny thing is some houses and in the park
with it that the plants are so big in front
you can't see.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I witnessed.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
You can't see the house. God, you tell who's coming
up the lane? What were you thinking when you planted those? Anyway?
So anyway, there are a lot of plants out there.
That's speaking of a design and landscape that are prefaced
by the word dwarf. Yeah, you up on how they
don't take it and so well, you know, they don't
get so big that that you have a problem getting

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into the house. I mean right, And also some of
them they say the dwarf, but they don't stay that way.
One is the globe spruce. People always plant them. I
don't know why they do this. They plant them right
by the front door.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Then the next thing, you know, after.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Big they get I mean, how do you get the
piano in the house.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I'll call Laurel and Hardy.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
So yeah, they'll stop that anyway, granddaughter's texting. But anyway,
so yeah, so so go ahead and usually on the
label they'll have the specifications on how big this thing gets.
So if you want a big old globe blue spruce,
which is they're nice decorative things. Actually they tend to

(14:48):
do better than the regular spruce anyway, have something to
do with surface area to volume ratios and the spherical
shape and all that. So anyway, so you want to
keep it out away at further. It might look a
little distant at first, but as they grow and all that,
it makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
So how big do they really get globular.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, globular. Yeah, they can get there's some over in
Versailles place that they're about six feet by five feet
or so, so they get pretty good size.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, I hate to see what the nod dwarf.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
There is an excellent spruce specimen plant. It's absolutely incredible.
It's right across the street from I guess it's Hoover
Elementary on Madison Bullvard. Yeah, right across the street there's
a house and it's is on the perfect location. It's
on a north facing slope and the grass underneath is

(15:47):
dead and brown, but this beautiful.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But the spruce. Keep in mind the environment that that
the spruce comes into. It typically grows in mountainous areas
where it's rather rocky and.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
They have to really reach for resource. And we put
it in our clay soil here and they have some
times difficulty with rit rod. That's the biggest problem with
spruce seas or secondary that is bores. But anyway, this
particular tree is just absolute specially so yeah, So there
are some some places where the conditions are just right

(16:19):
like that for it to grow, and it's not always
the case.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
You can't. Sometimes you just simply can't.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Force the issue and people say, I want this particular plant,
and I said, well, okay, we'll put it in, but
it won't last very long. So you try to make,
you know, something that will last thirty five years, like.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Like we did before.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So with that in mind, you want to have a
you know, a landscape design. And also you know there
are other plants besides that particular one that might do
the same thing, so you can pick out different plants
to do different things and so on. So some of
them are durable and some of our mark. Some of
them you might have to put up with a few

(17:03):
thorns here and there, but so what the barbarys don't
have any bugs, so.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
They've got that going.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So anyway, we have to consider the soil type, the slope,
the drainage, the exposure to the house, the architecture house,
and how how it the house appears style wise, and
sometimes that can be changed. I did a design for
somebody up north of town and they're wanting to change
everything on the house and I.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Was able to able to do it.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, able to model the house so you can see
what it looked like with with the landscape too. So
there's also considering the landscape, certain degrees of of a
work you want to put into it after it's done maintenance,
if you will.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh yeah, you can't just throw it in the ground
and forget it. Yeah, I know, well some people do.
Like sitting next to.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
At my house, the front landscaping is composed mainly of garbage.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Left left over stuff from other people. He brought it home.
Look what I'm throwing in the.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the ground. Yeah. And typically, uh.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Now you're on the big show every year. It's funny,
we want to see this because this looks like a
museum of the northeast Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Typically I want him to have a landscape that's maybe
once a year maintenance. The dwarf Fie upon Holly's it's
a very versatile show. Last time that are forty years
old isn't really high. But every year I take the
shears and just give him a big.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Old haircut at the top of them.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh yeah, next year they get kind of big around.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I got to see if Kevin can bring up his
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, you don't have fun with that.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Big old clouds of diesel smoke.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And cut back the dwarf felp on hollies, and you
do that around Valentine's Day times just before they start
to grow, and they look a little a little flat
at first, then they grow out of it fairly quickly.
And also keep in mind that the fertilizer needs the
differ plants too, and also it's going to lead us

(19:16):
into one thing that's a bit of a problem here.
What's that That is a crape myrtle scale.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
This creeps right up on.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
The timing and what to do when and how to
do it right, you know. So, crepe myrtle scale is
a kind of a an insect that sort of sticks
to the side of the stem, and typically they're white
in color, and they also exude a sugary substance that
ants really like. And then doing so, they carry the

(19:48):
eggs of these insects to other parts of the tree
or the different trees they're walking around. So it's just
it's carried on like that. Spread that way too. Anyway,
look at your crape myrtle and see if the stem
has extraordinarily dark color to it. Crit myrtles typically have
a tan colored stem, but if it's really dark in color,

(20:08):
then chances are that's mold growing on the sugary substance
from the scale insects that'll happen. So that's the first
thing you look for it. Then look at it real
close and you see these whitish I guess splotches on
the stem, and those are the insects. It kind of

(20:29):
adheres itself to the plant and draws the juices out
of the plant, and you know all the sugars that
the leaves make. It takes that stuff out of it,
and then it attracts ants and they carry the spread
the word around all over the place. Not only but
birds and mammals and things like that can carry them
away also. So timing is very important. I'm controlling the

(20:54):
scale insect at this point in time, I wouldn't be
learned too much about putting down some pre systemic insecticides.
The plant really won't draw it up. So now the
time to control Craigemertle scale is in the spring March

(21:15):
April may around there, but maybe the into April.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Before we get into those hot j months.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You need to have the sap running up in the
plant for the premergen story. At this point in time,
it's they're kind of falling asleep right now.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You can put it down now.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
And typically the systemic insecticide is called a metocloprid and
it can be used, but it has a stays somewhat
resident in the plant, but it gets diluted over time.
So you need to be proactive and a little after
Valentine's Day and you know first of April run you

(21:53):
a bit of time range in that before the crepe
murders start to grow. You need to get it integrated
into the ground so the plant can all it up
and cause a synaptic issue with the insects the nervous system. Yeah,
that's what they do. Yeah, I need to turn this
microphone so they can see that. Ret That was funny.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
That was my insect dying.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Apply the treatments late March through May and a street
nearby infested crate myrtles also or.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Uninfested crate myrtles.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
So uh.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
In other words, if you don't have it, they're going
to get it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
And what what what this does is it diminishes the
blossom showing the crate merdles and it weakens the plant
and then it dies. Then you plant another one and
it gets the same thing going on.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Break the cycle.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Just the stuff to releast, the amid of cloprid is
really easy to use. You basically mix it up in
a five gallon bucket and poured it on the ground
and the it's the molecule of this moment for the
plant to absorb and get into the vascular system of
the planet. So when the insect comes over there and
draws it into it, he takes some of that stuff

(23:08):
in with it, and it's what it is. It's a nicotinoid,
and that has an effect on the brain cells of
the insect, and I guess they kind of forget what
they're doing and it's kind of die. It's like, oh, well, great,
myrtle scale is a real bad problem here.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I go to everybody's house.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
They all have them, and so there's something you at
this point in time, though, if you do have the
scale on it, I just take a good firm spray
of the garden hose and wash them off at this point,
because there's not enough time for the medocloper to get
into the tree, and by the time spring comes around
next year, it won't be as effective as if we're

(23:49):
if he were to put it in March April.

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scare you. Okay. Larry Glass is our expert here for
Green Country gardener, and our phone line is open at
nine three six fourteen.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Oh yeah, look at the radar there it is okay anyway, LUNs,
what to do in the lawns right now on permetograts
keep it fairly high.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, kind of stop mowing my yard, Larry, I stopped
mowing it last year around the end August.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I've got I got to cut the seed heads off
of crab grass.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, it's not time to quinetize more quite yet. At
the time is running out on to install fescue seeds,
So you need to get busy. So if you need
if you have some shady areas that needs some pest
food grass, and you might take a shovel and see
how far you have to jump up and down to
get it. The soil broken up. Those seeds, you know,

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they have to burrow down and get into the soil.
And typically our soil here has a lot of clay
and silt in it, and it does kind of compact
in layers, and it's difficult for the grass the roots
to get down because the path of least resistance is

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basically horizontal rather than vertically. So it would behoove you
to do at least some degree of preparation prior to
putting down the fescue seed, because it's going to happen.
It'll look real nice for a little while. Then it's
going to get hot in the summer re eli, and
then it overheats and it dies again.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So it's just an endless cycle.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So it's very important to get the ground ready when
professio grass bermuda grass right now, not a whole lot
to do with it, really, it's just kind of maintained
status quo. I noticed the growth has slowed down quite
a bit on it too, so it's getting ready. It's
the length of day really that causes these plants to
change necessarily the climate.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
It interferes with their photosynthesis.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well that too, but they're getting all tucked in for
the winter.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, So don't use a lot of high nitrogen on
the bermudographs at this point, so you get a lot
of tender growth on that and it can freeze out on.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
You here and there.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I it's not hard enough really well for the winter.
So something like a ten twenty ten at the most
is what you want to use at this point in time.
Commutographs Feestio grass is a completely different story. It likes
the cool weather and it likes good, rich, deep loose soil.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
So moved to Chicago if you want to.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
When we were kids, we had a fascue lawn rather
playing football.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
On our front lawn. It did fine.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
So but over here it's a little different story. There
are some really really good fescue lawns here in town.
It takes a lot of work and you know, some
preparation and having the soil in the right place.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
For it to work really well. So zoya grass is.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And we put a lot of it into its really
nice stuff, and it tolerates the clay a whole lot
more than fescue, and it goes stormer in the winter.
So you not that they're starting up the lawnmower in
the February, February, March, in January.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I've had a mode in January. It was that wasn't fun, but.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Is getting rather expensive right now. So its Soyser grass
and Bermuda grass are what we call warm seasoned grasses
and they do pretty well in the heat over here.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
And the Zoyser grass is slightly more water.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Hungry than bermuda has needs, but it is such a
beautiful one. So and it's easier to grow than fescue,
but it goes dormard in the winter, so it takes
a nap exactly. So fescuo grass right now, a lot
of people are trying to establish that and like I said,
preparations nine tenths of the wall, and you want to

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make sure the conditions are right for it to grow,
so you don't waste your money, you don't waste your time.

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Indeed, cool, let's take a quick break. We're going to
be right back after this two minute time out.

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Question or comment for our expert Larry Glass.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
One tree that's becoming very popular, quite popular. Actually it's
a Chinese pistache.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, it's so popular. You got one?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah? I found it growing in cracking the cement in
the backyard.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
He said, here, I got a spot for this.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I got a real kind of money and yanked it
up and put it in the yard and planted in mud.
And now the trunk is.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Is felly, the size of a basketball.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Got the trunk on.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's really big, it's really grown, and it's growing in
that solid rock. I'd use a pick just to scratch
the ground to get the thing in there, and I said,
and it looked pitiful for a while.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I bet it did.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
My neighbor was talking about that the other day when yeah,
I remember that thing. It looked like an old sheet
in the wind.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
All well, it wasn't very strong. It's all crooked and
bent and all that.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
But it grew out of it and it's made a
really nice shade tree. And the fortunate thing is it's
a male tree. So this plant is dioecious. So yeah,
male and female and separate plants, so it if you
can get a hold of a male, it's pretty good shape.
But anyway, it's originally from East Asia and Eastern Asia.

(34:27):
The Chinese is a beautiful deciduous tree with bright green,
alternatively pennately compound leaves. That that's long for pretty yeah, y,
I guess so. But that turned orange crimson in the fall.
So I'm hoping for some crueler weather so well, at least,
but it's starting to twinge a little bit, the color

(34:49):
starting to change a little bit on it, So I'm
hoping we'll have some cool weather too.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well. It'll be plenty cool today, forty five degrees. It
won't be twenty eight like we.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Need to fall has a kind of a unique smell anyway,
which you can identify this tree from the supendous drummond eye,
which looks very similar, or the oh, I can't think
of the common man saltberry tree. Yeah, saltberry. It looks
a whole lot acrimustache when it's young and as it

(35:21):
grows up leafs. Physiology is very similar, but it's a
different species. There's also dioecious too, but anyway, maybe they're
kind of related somehow.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Third cousins twice removed.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, something like that. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
It can go up to fifty feet tall and about
twenty thirty feet wide or so, and it tolerates drought, salt,
and heat ray well. It has a fibrous root system
and no, really it really has no common insect or
disease problems. I have noticed some boor activity in some
of them. So try to keep it healthy and it'll easily.

(35:57):
It'll it'll fend it off pretty well good. And so
it's excellent orange red fall color. A good city tree.
They use a lot of these in the inside along
the sidewalks in the city and over there on the
Washington Boulevard just north of Frank Phillips. They planted some
Chinese elms. Is the Chinese pistache and kind of a

(36:21):
rhythm kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So we'll see how they do.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
They don't split half in the wind like the other ones.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
Did.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I know Tornado, they had a calorie pairs there and
they didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
They didn't hold up to you well. So these treets,
hopefully they do pretty well. They can grow in very
adverse conditions and do quite well. So anyway, you might
consider this Chinese pistache is a tree to have around
the house. It does good around the patio too, But
you want to make sure you get a male clone.

(36:52):
If you have it in your living space. Out of
the yard doesn't matter that much. You know, they can
long over, pick up the seeds whatever. But close to
the house you want to make sure all are taken
care of and observed.

Speaker 11 (37:05):
Not.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
What they do is they clone these things and the
genetics stay constant. I don't really think it can change.
Mother nature can just be on me sometimes I guess so.
But nonetheless, so you want to get to make sure
you got one of those and do very well plant them. Oh, No,
closest to the house you want to go it is

(37:26):
maybe twelve or fifteen feet away from the house, and
then in an area that's pretty well drained.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
They don't like it.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Low areas where the soil, where the water stands and
all that, it will not make it at all. It'll
just go put in an area where it's not well drained.
So and when it gets established, you just kind of
ignore it and it'll do fine. I've got mine at
my house with a little area of multi around it,
and so it's quite well.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't do a thing to it.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I did a little trimming on it this year, though
you get to kind of moan the grass and get
so I didn't trim it up a little bit. So anyway, anyway,
pistache is a good tree to.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Have it around the house. It does very well on
the west side of the Alps.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
It thinks the heat real well, and it doesn't have
very many problems, like it doesn't get too big. In
other words, you see people plant these oaks, you know,
ten feet from the house, and that's that's just not good.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh, your your foundation will be shot before too long. Really.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And also when you when you locate a tree, any tree,
you make sure know where your water meter is we
were planting trees for somebody this last week. I said,
there's your water meter, and more likely it comes straight
into the house.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Most of them do. So that's an area you want
to avoid planting a tree. Oh so we relocated it
somewhere else so we didn't run into that because you
know it's underground and it's going to fail, so.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
You want to make it so it's not so difficult
to replace the water line if that happens.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
We got a call here, okay, put them.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
On alrighty, good morning, and welcome to the Green Country
Gardener Program. Your your question or comment for Larry.

Speaker 9 (39:19):
Yes, I've got it through probably four years old that
I planted.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Shouldn't be I prefertilized it all.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, good idea. He is something like a ten twenty
ten in the fall.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
You don't want to to do too much nitrogen at
this point, so MPK ten twenty ten should do just
fine with it. And also, depending on what part of
town you're living in, you might want to have something
with some little bit iron in.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
It too, maybe. Okay, thanks very much, all right, thanks
for caroling.

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Appreciate it, thank you, and that leaves the line open
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Speaker 3 (39:55):
Typiclt I like the fertilized trees in February. But you know,
if the tree's kind of suffering a little bit, it
wouldn't heard to give some in the fall.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
They just may may or.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
May not utilize it because it's getting ready to go adornment.
But at least for lives will be in the ground
if you when it comes time. But it comes time
for it to need it, okay, and if we get
a lot of know it'll use Yeah. By the way, Oh,
one thing we talked about a meticlop myrtles. Soon. You

(40:25):
want to be very careful around flowering plants that bees
like to go to.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, you don't want to get that message.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
There's a theory that it does.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Cause a problem with bees, and there are two sides
of the story. Some people say it does that the
chemical can't get to the to the nectar in the flower,
and some people say it can.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But if you want to be on the safe side,
you might want to avoid using that on flowering plants.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
We need the bees because without them there won't be
to us then see bees on crap, But plants around them.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, so try to keep it away from that, don't
don't try not to use that on you.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I've does somebody shoot it that way?

Speaker 3 (41:14):
If if you do have some fruit trees and you
do have a prominent bars, you can put a middle
crporate on after the flowers are pretty well gone and
then it'll get into the trunk.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
And control the bores.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I know, I have a plum tree that got attacked
with bars and and try not to use anything. And
I'm not gonna have to take it out and go
get another one.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Darn.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Oh well, you're not that old. I'll live long enough
to make a make some plum jelly out of.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
It, so gary you won't miss. Yeah, I'm recombing it anyway.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Shrub of the Week is barbary.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Japanese barbary barber is funbirch eye is one of the
more popular landscape barberies actually, and there are many many
cultures available to this plant is a pretty much insect
proof and drought tolerant and so on, and it does
it's very well, does very well in the landscape when

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it comes to producing some drug color.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Especially it's say the crimson pygmy barbary or the red.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
There's a they have a red pillar, barbery yellow pillar upright,
growing barberries and so on. The main drawback are the thorns,
but they're not really that bad, you know. You get
a bad rap, yeah, but the thorns aren't too bad,
you know. But it's not like a Chilian barbary. I
remember that back in the seventies had thorns of sizes

(42:43):
of calleige railroadspikes.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Paled and it was Talids are very.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Easy to grow, very kind of low growing plant with
us yellow flowers on it and some blue blue berries on.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It's very attractive plant.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Until you brush by it there with the bear leg, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Then then you're running your more nearby and the tires pop,
you know.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
But anyway, so barbary, don't don't rule it out as
a color accent in the landscape. They're available in a
pink or a red or a yellow color. And if
you do need to trim it, do it do so
in the winter. And these need some discipline. They really
don't look that good. You turned this thing on, so

(43:26):
it doesn't do that. They really don't.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
They really don't have any past problems and they're very
easy to grow.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
They're very drought tolerant, and they're much more attractive if
you were to cut them back. Occasionally, I've seen a
lot of them that have real quirky stems and just
ugly and offset and all that. And my neighbor had
that across the street and said, what do I do
about these? And I said, cut them down really low
to the ground, these red barberries, okay, And they came

(44:00):
out really nice the next year. So little sacrifice, an
annual heavy pruning of the barber age is good for them.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
And they look a whole lot better than if you're
let them get old, sprangly and ugly.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
So it's a good one in the landscape. Likes full sun,
thanks drainage, no pest to speak of, and so but
they're good, good plans to have in the landscape for
color accents.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Maybe a little hell hedges or things in there too.

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We're going to take a break. We'll be right back
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Speaker 1 (47:27):
And welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. We've
got a caller on hold. I hope you're still there.
Welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program. Your question or
comment for Larry.

Speaker 16 (47:39):
Hello, Hello, just making sure I'm the one that's on
that's you, Okay, I'm calling because Green Thumb Garden Club
is having a gross sale this morning cool till noon
at the Bank of Oklahoma Community Center there at thirty

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nine oh one East, Frank Phillips. So we've got a
lot of fun stuff. We've got house decor, a lot
of Christmas including some really nice vintage items, jewelry, Halloween costumes.
A lot of them are for very small children and infants.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Okay, so those would be great.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Just got a lot of cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, tell you what day. If you like to call
back in about fifteen to twenty minutes, that's when our
consumer calls are on and they'll be able to really
give you the full treatment here and they'll get that
thing rocking for you. I appreciate your call, though, and
it's good to know that we've got all that going
on and it goes to the club man, it does.

(48:48):
Larry what you got over there, Bud.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
We were talking about barbaris from color accidents in the landscape. Yeah,
and no bugs, no diseases, no problems. So sit of
that and get a pair of gloves you Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You might get be able to do that over there
at the bank Ole Calahoma Yards. Yeah they if not
go out to your place.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
You got gloves we got yeah, golly.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Anyway, the the Virginia Creepers exhibitings of color in the
trees as if you look up into the trees there
there'll be some poison ivy as well.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh it's uh, the fall color is showing up on that.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
We are on.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
All the road that goes down to Oceleda. We did
some planting down there and old seventy five. Yeah, and
we're looking up in the trees and go, what is that?
I said, Well, that's Virginia creeper. That's poison ivy.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah. But so they're both kind of working in parallel.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
And the Virginia creeper is a type of a part
and assistant which is related to Boston ivy.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So it has a nice uh fall color, and so
the birds like this, the seeds on it, and they
spread the word and.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
You got more.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
So in some parts of some parts of the nation,
the Virginia creeper is considered kind of endangered. Over here,
we're just overrun with it. But that's because we've got
birdies on the lots of birds and things there. So
it attaches to.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
The wall with the five suction cups they do. Yeah,
and it also has five leaves on it. So this
parth and Sis quinn Caifolia quinn as in five Folio
five leaves and also the attachment mechanism also has five
suction cups with an adhesive that sticks to a wall,

(50:40):
so when you pull it off the wall, you get
looks like puppy feet curling up the wall. So anyway,
so that's Virginia creeper. It can be a past but
it has its place in the landscape up in the
trees and so on.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
So anyway, that's kind of our weed of the week,
if you.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Will, are weed of the week. And the roses are.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Going to be enjoying the cool weather coming on. They're
going to put on some good show.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
So cut them back a little bit, mind a little
bit like coming back a couple of weeks ago and
they're starting to bush out and some flowers on them too,
So we're going to have our fall show with the
roses too. So anyway, come by the nursery and check
and see what we got. We have a great selection
of African violets and some other tropical plants of the greenhouse, yep,
get ready for winter for brightening up the house a

(51:23):
little bit. They have a good selection of fall color
of plants to got some bernie bush and so on,
and evergreens in boxwoods, all kinds of different you believe,
how many different sizes and shape and configurations.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Well as big as your place is out there, I
imagine you've got all kinds of art.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, and plants to do well a little zip go down. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
So anyway, golly Tom, it's been a good, good program
this week. Keep a shovel sharp. We will see you
next week.

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