GREEN COUNTRY GARDENER 10-4-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hey, you going there one time there, young man. It's
a time for our October Fast all month long right
here on the Green Country Gardener Program. I'm I'm Davis
slurry Glass, and our phone line is open for questions
and comments for Larry at one eight hundred and seven
four nine by nine three six.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
How you doing there?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Fine?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
For considering, I do like the oompah songs. That sounds
like an old tennis shoe and a dryer.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Golly, it's falls here, and believe it or not, it's
warm and golly. The weather up coming this week is
looking pretty good temperature wise.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, not too bad.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I mean about ten degrees cooler than it's going to
be today tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Sure, once you get into Tuesday Wednesday, you will be
looking at seventy seven degrees.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yay, jeez. Summer summers just hanging on there.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's like pulling a rope and there's going to give
out and then falls gonna get here about two weeks winter.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah get yeah, we get two weeks a fall. Susan
and I were just talking. We're looking at the yard,
you know, and she's telling me all the spots I missed,
and uh, anyway, we noticed that it's a lot greener,
a lot longer this year, because usually about at the
end of July, maybe halfway through August, most lawns turned

(02:05):
into a blonde around here. And all you got to
do is maybe, you know, just whack off the top
of the weeds and you're done.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Really, but but no.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It's looks like it's going to be a full time
occupation all the way up till till.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, this summer we've had sufficient rain very much that
it's a big part into it too, because that rain,
you know, folks into the ground and breaks up, you know,
and so it's still down in there. So that's why
people's lungs look a lot Better's some beautiful LUNs here
except mine. But yeah, I get up in the morning

(02:42):
it's dark and leave. Oh there's my grass. Okay, back
to work to come back.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Uh no, there we go.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Anyway, our soil there tends to be a little bit
on the tight side, and that makes it difficult to
establish things like fescue grass. And if your soil is hard,
if you have to jump on a shovel to plant
your fescu seed. I've seen people just put seed on
the hard ground.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
What the birds don't eat the wash away when raine.
But you need to make that.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Soil suitable for the grass to grow in and try
to get the root and real deep too.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's where gypsum comes in handy. It does yep, good
old c ASO four two h duo and it it.
It does a good job of breaking up the clay
particles whatever, so with more aerobic if you will. So
the rooster go down into the soil. So if you
do want to establish some fescus seeds to have got

(03:42):
time to do that. You get the tailler out and
uh you know, and then till it up a little bit.
And that's some gypsum to it. If your soil is
real heavy. Some parts of town the sold is absolutely beautiful.
Most parts of town it isn't. So anyway, the gypsum
improves your plants health and productivity. It helps fights diseases

(04:03):
caused by fundus. Oh yeah, that's where the SO four
comes in, hindy and improves nitrogen utilization and fixation.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Because it helps the.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Soil, it helps manage micronut deficiencies, improve soil structure, aeration, drainage,
utability of plants and reduce the soil surface crusting and
improve seeding emergence.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh, that's important.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
And it also helps create the optimum calcium slash magnesium
ratio for the one in your soil.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
And it's say for organic growers too.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
So anyway, gypsum, you might consider getting some gypsum when
you do your ground for your grass seed. Also, we
use that now and then when we encounter somebody's yards
and the tiller bounces.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Over the ground.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Not only do we have a lot of composts, but
we'll add actually some sand to the soil and a
little bit of gypsum.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
And it helps keep the soil loose and workable so.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
The plants will root in so they can so these
plants can take it, can survive these ups and downs
in soil moisture and temperature and so on. So anyway,
gypsum's good too. So if you're having trouble with your things,
perhaps you you just need to look at the soil
chemistry a little bit and go out in the yard

(05:19):
and jump on a shovel.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Make sure it's sharply area.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, I've come to people's houses.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
When you take a sharp piol will to jump on
it not go still break break the Yeah, shovels are broken,
but anyway, but it will sometimes it's it's difficult and
you have you have to prepare the soil.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
For plants and things, so work good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Uh, let's say fertilizing too. It said the last time
to fertilizer bermuda grass. You want to use something like
a ten twenty ten on it. You don't want to
encourage a lot of rapid growth on your bermutiographs at
this point, just a maintenance thing. And the has a
phosphors in it that helps develop a stronger strolling stolen
growth and the stronger root system. So it's the high

(06:07):
nitrogen applications are over with, so you need something with
some phosphorus potassium in it to help it survive the winter.
And also a mowing too. You want to maintain the
mowing height. You need that layer of insulation. And you
don't know how cold it's going to get this winter,
and if you have if your ground your permutographs is

(06:29):
mode really short, there's a good chance you're gonna lose
part of it. And another reason for not putting nitrogen
heavy nitrogen applications on your Bermuda grass at this point
is from a spring dead spot, and that happens when
we have a lot of snow and a lot of moisture.
It's a fungus disease. It spreads out and you see

(06:49):
it on people so long as who are really really
well fertilized. But the ones who don't you don't really
see it that much. So we have kind of put
two and two together. Well, that's that's the ill. They
don't fur the lights of the year, So maybe at
ten twenty ten will work. Okay, if you're having problems
with green color on your grass, maybe some iron will help.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
To iron sulfate make that. I do it on mine.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I put iron with my fertilizer before I apply it
and it helps darken the green color comes up really nice.
So that will help you your long out a little bit. Weeds,
the winter weeds are up.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I'm gonna say there are a few lawns that have been
overcome already.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, well they're a really small You look way down
in there, and once those weeds sprout, the pre emergent
is ineffective done, so you need to get it while
it's before they get You.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Can still have some control.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
At this point it's been relatively warm, so they're kind
of stick on their feet in the water at this point.
So the things like their handbit and the chick weed. Yeah,
it's up so pretty soon. You know, you have to
use a broadly control. Pre Emergents aren't going to work
because it's already up and growing. So you about missed
the boat on we talked about in the past, but

(08:07):
anyway about missed the boat on that. So you want
to use a post emergent rban side if you have.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It on there.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So for the for the weeds, it's that time of
here when things I've just got to change from one
season to another.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, and you know you've got to be got
to be prepared for it.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
For it's also a good time right now still to
establish rescue from seed and you want to be very
careful not to have applied a pre emergent because it'll
stop the seed from growing. Just like that, he said, well,
let me put down this weed preventer, then let's put
some seed on top. Well, you're just putting on bird

(08:45):
food doing that. So you want to make sure you're
three months clear of a pre emergent application before you
put down your graph seed.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Then it'll do. Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
You'll have to tolerate a few weeds, but once it
gets established, you can use a post emergent weed control
that specifically works with broadly weeds.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
In the garden right now, it's a good time to
plant trees. We've got a whole truck that we've got
a plant this week, a whole forest. Yeah just about yeah,
but anyway, good and my big truck is broken, so.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I gotta be underneath it today and try to get
it fixed.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know how to spend a weekend.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Brother, I know, but come on, it's a good thing
that broke in the nursery.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, yeah, really it is.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
They drove it up, parked it, and I said, okay,
go ahead and get the truck back here. We got
to put some stuff on it and make a delivery
and it wouldn't start.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
So anyway, that's my agenda today is try to surgically
remove an engine starter and put a new one in.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Good luck, not the first time.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Cover your knuckles, you're right, so.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Anyway, so a good time the plant trades, good time
the plants and shrubs.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Divide your iris.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Who I've divided them my iris and put them in
a big old crate, put them in the nursery in
the front there, and say take some and share some
of these bulbs, and we'll get a picture of them
on there. People can see what they look like. So
there's a lot of interest in that. Iris are really
easy to grow. You don't want to make them a

(10:26):
mainstay in the landscape. I guess one disadvantage of iris
is eventually they do, by themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Make a mainstay in the landscape.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Get determined.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, so you want to divide them occasionally, and that's
the time to do that. You can divide some and
give them away or put them back into South forty
or something and let them, let them grow possibly and
then they make great erosion control. Actually pretty good plants,
good tough. They survived the drought, they survived it wet,

(10:57):
they're a hearty bunch, survived the cold, they supplied to heat.
They are really good plants. And they're bloom in the spring.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Pretty nice.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
So anyway, we've got some of those, so time to
divide those. Actually good time also to plant pansies and
biolas and flowering kale and cabbage. Those are cool season plants.
We did some pots for a customer this week with
a flowering cabbage tail slashcale plant in the middle and
some diolas which are a small version of pansies around

(11:29):
that in a container. And those are going to continue
to grow and prosper in the cold that they like
it rather chilly, unless it gets really superlatively chilly, and
you might want to move them into garage for a while,
but anyway, they can go down to twenty some degrees
without new problems. So time to put those in the ground.

(11:49):
And we're selling pansies are just flying out of the
nursery right now. We're selling a lot of them, so
it's time to put those on the ground to make
sure the soil is really Look at the root on
the pansy and you see it's a very almost like fiber.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's a real fine.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Root and they really won't really venture forth to be
soiled very well. So if your soil is really heavy,
you might consider getting maybe some composts or something to
blend in with the soil so the risks can grow
further out. You'll have a lot better showed that way.
By having a good loose soil for the pansies. Others

(12:28):
don't take the electric drill and drill a hole in.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Ground preparation is something we always consider it and and
on the on the landscape cause estimates, it's always kind
of a big part of it. It's it's a prerequisite
to to planting your plants. It's also a prerequisite to
success in the landscape. You want to make sure the
soil is suitable for the types of plants you want,
and the pansies are. They're they're not overly picky, but

(12:56):
they do like to have some good loot soil for
them to be planted.

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Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh well, a mouthful otherwise known as the weeping Japanese maple.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh yeah, why is it crying?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Well?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
It describes a pendulous Habit got like a weeping willow
kind of thing. Okay, And this is a pretty cool plant.
People like to use it. This's kind of a specimen.
Interesting and it gets about the six feet tall and
about six feet wide. Then you have to keep that
in mind when when planting one of these, that you
don't plant it in an area where you can't get

(16:59):
in the front door.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So it's get some sixty eight feet tall, sixty eight feet.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wide, right, So this this this wide.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It takes up some space in your yard. It will.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
So you want to plant maybe five feet away from
the house, not two feet And does it look good.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
In the middle of your yard if you need to,
you know, just kind of put something in the middle
of your yard.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Is one of those things.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
If we lived in Wisconsin, okay, but need some shade, it.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Needs some protection from the hot from the heat, so
it but it does like a partial sun. And one
thing about this plant is occasionally, if it's in an
area where it does get a whole lot of sun
in the wintertime, you get the sun'scortch on the stem
and that's a You look on the top of the

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stem and it's either a light brown or a gray
color with a normal color down below on the bottom.
And that's because there's too much summer or winter sun
on it. And what happens is the fluids in the
stem there, they're really cold in the wintertime and the
sun signs on it and it and they fall out

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real quick and it caused us some die back, so
on the on the top half. So you want to
plant this one in an area that does have some
protections from the hot sun. Yeah, even in the wintertime.
So you can associate it with other larger specimen plants
deciduous holly or something like that would canopy over it

(18:30):
a little bit and I gets so big that would
give it some protection from the hot from the sun.
Hot sun in the winter, I say hot sun in
the winter. When my daughter was born in eighty two,
it was seventy five degrees.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
We've had in the middle of December.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
We've had a few Christmases where yeah, it's okay, but
put back to shorts.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Off, get our lawn chairs and our umbrellas and our
margaritas and go out. But anyway, so so it does
very well and keeping my how big this is going
to get. If you have any questions about, just just
ask and we can tell you that it seem gets
bigger around than you can reach, and so.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It should be no anyway, But.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Now we lost track. So you want to put it
in an area where it has plenty of room to grow. Now,
there are some parts of town where it does real
well because there are some overhead trees over there, and
some parts of town where there are no trees, and
it'll do okay for a few years, but then it'll
just start to kind of decline, if you will. A

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substitute for that, there's some weeping cypress that evergreen plants
that have a weeping habit. Also there are some other
plants besides the weeping Japanese maple that can take a
warmer or sunnier climate in a warmer area, So we
might ask about there's even a weep spruce and stuff

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like that. They can tolerate it better than a Japanese maple.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
You get about the same size.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, about the same size, okay. And the weeping blue
atlas cedar is a nice one too. It kind of
grows up and has this pendulous habit to it, and
it takes the sun real well. But it does, like
you know, good drainage and a fair amount of sunshine
for it to work. It doesn't get as wide maybe
as a Japanese maple, but it does give you that that.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Descending weeping habit, which is kind of nice.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
So anyway, if you want something like that as a
specimen interest plant in the landscape, you might inquire and
tell us what your environment is to help you make
a selection for which plant to put in. There's a
specimen interest plant with a weeping habit. It's a good
textural relief, a good specimen interest plant. It pops out

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in the landscape more than say something that's kind of
pointing upright you know.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, so you mean.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
So it makes these particular plants do make a good
interest in a landscape. So that's something you might consider
on a landscape composition is a weeping dissectum Japanese maple,
but be sure to give it room. Be sure to
give us some shielding from the hot afternoon sun.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Great.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Okay. One shrub that we can talk about a little
bit is Ilie agnes and justifolia.

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Okay, while we're trying to pronounce that at home, we're
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We're back with the old ompA music and everything else
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Speaker 3 (24:06):
I know about that feeling.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
But anyway, we were talking about trees in the landscape,
and there's several kinds of trees you can pick in
your landscape.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Of course there are.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
What is your primary consideration is what you need to
ask first one climbing a tree, What do you want
this tree to do? Do you want to provide shade?
Do you want something flowering? You want something maybe with
some fruit on it, perhaps or just a tree especially flowering,
Fall color and shade of the primary things. And how

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much of a nuisance from these trees will you tolerate?
Seed parts, you.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Know, gumballs and whatnot. How much of that can you tolerate?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
So anyway, fall color, is really on people's mind right now.
And we've sold a lot of maple trees lately, and
the red maples and the hybrid red maples do a
very good job of exhibiting fall color. If you don't
get some cool weather, maybe a little bit of rain,
the color in the fall isn't going to be as

(25:15):
bright as we'd like it to be. So what we
really need to do is get some cooler weather coming on,
because some of the trees actually starting to turn here
and there, and the color is not overly impressive. So
that's what we need. You guys need to get busy.
That makes the cooler weather for them to do anyway,

(25:36):
So that's kind of it with trees. Oh, one thing
you consider how big a tree do you want? How
much mess can you tolerate? Something that you can tolerate
some acorns or gumballs or seed pods or whatever. So
all these factors you have to consider when picking out

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a tree, and probably you really won't really tolerate much
of a nuisance in the landscape. So and also consideration
is do you want grass under the tree? And another
considerations is how deep before you hit bedrock. All these
factors must be considered. Also, you might want to create
a buffer zone about fifteen feet from the house yea,

(26:19):
from your house and your country hillo tom, Yeah, concrete
to help locate the tree also, so basically make a
map of your yard if you can do that, I
use a lot of satellite imagery now and.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Then well your high technology that's why.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
And then scale it up.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
But anyway, you can just go outside and step off
with fifteen feet from the house, fifteen feet from the driveway,
fifty feet from the sidewalk, fifteen feet from the water line,
and fifteen feet from the sewer line, et cetera, et cetera.
And you probably got a space about the size of
a of a pizza where you plant tree.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
So once you established the the or batchically inventory the site.
The constraints keep it my drainage too. Water has to
go away from the house. And if you plant something
like a maple tree or something, its to well the
soil up a little bit. Oh yeah, because the rip
match takes up in space sure and tend to raise
the soil a little bit too. And you don't want

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to You want to be conscious of the drainage patterns
in the yard too. So that leaves out a whole
lot of a lot of people's yards for things they
can plant. So if you need to plant something closer
to the house, you might go maybe with an upright
fastigiated tree. There are some upright growing elms and oaks
and maples that grow narrow and upright, so to give

(27:42):
you a tree effect if you will sure very close
to the house, so you gotta and also you know utilitie,
so you might want to get you utility is flagged
also before you even pick out a site where a tree,
where a tree goes, and uh, definitely you don't want
to plant the tree over the water main into the
house because inevitably that's going to give out that to

(28:05):
replace it. Yes, so if you if you don't have
a big old tree in the way of the waterline
being replaced at some point time, it's not going to
happen today. But you've got to plant for the inevitable
you do exactly, So try not to plant a tree
close to the waterline going into the house and also

(28:26):
the electric line and the sewer line going out, and
how deep the sewer line is, and what species of trees.
Don't plant a weeping will anywhere near a sewer line, because.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
You will things will happen, you will have problems.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
You don't really plant any tree near water sewer line
because you will have problems.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Got it, cousin Eddie.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
So basically, inventory your utilities and your drainage prior to
the locating where a tree is to be planted. Then
you won't have any problems. You can enjoy it and
not worry about it. So uh, Now, the species of
tree you plant might make a difference. For a smaller tree,
might consider say a Chinese elm or a Chinese pistache,
and they get about twenty feet wide or so.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Maybe a little bigger if the soil is good, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Mighty big if they're larry.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Roll of the dice around here.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Really, I mean at my house, I planted my pistache
tree and I had to use a pick.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I thought it was blasting caps.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah I need that really, but really, I literally took
a pick and jammed a hole in the rock planted
the thing. Now it's trunk is bigger, bigger, round.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
In my leg and it's made a real nice shave
tree for my old pickup truck. In the evening, when
I come home.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Must be working because the tree is in great shape
and the truck still.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah it is forty years so anyway, so and if
you need help, I can come to the house and
advise and consent to do that. For a lot of
people come to their house and say, you want to
plant what where?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Forget it?

Speaker 4 (30:12):
What are your nuts? You got a shallow rock? You
can't plant a silver maple? No, I got to having
a red maple. You might want to consider something like
a pustache which has a good deeper system, or a
northern red oak or something like that if you want
a big tree. But some of the spaces just candle
can't handle these big trees. And even though you're going

(30:34):
to plant the tree fifteen feet away from the house,
you put an oak tree in there, in about ten
years you're going to be trimming it away from them.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
So keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
All so very good, Okay, all right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be back after this two minute time out.

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A, Yes, it's the October Fast version of of course,
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eight hundred seven nine three six on Tom. He's Larry,
he'd be knowing something. He's Larry Glass and Larry are expert.
What do we have next on the agenda?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
I just discovered why these headphones are somewhat recalcitrant.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
They've got dials on the control on it and yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
I can't hear anything now, and I go, oh, they
hit it by a mistake, and they went up, Hey,
there you go. Anyway, at the nursery right now, we
have some milk weed plants, okay, and the monarch butterflies
are just covered.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Well.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
They come in and people just love see they take
little pictures with their camera with their phones.

Speaker 11 (33:50):
Don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
I got a picture of a of a caterpillar and
the monarch butterfly caterpillar. If you see one of these,
and if you've got some bugs on your plants and
the spray something and without even looking at it, you
really need at this point in the time of the year,
you really need to look before you leap when it

(34:12):
comes to spraying insecticides on your plants. The monarch butterfly caterpillar,
they're at the cab stage right now. Is has a
black and a yellow and a white stripe and it
has two sets of antennae on the front and water
on the back. Imagine that's a long term adaptive strategy
on their part.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Or turn signals.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
You could be.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I don't know, curve wheelers. This is what he knows things.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I just.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
At this point in time, they're they're going to be
turning into a crystalis pretty soon.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Anyway. That's the life cycle of them is really quite interesting.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
It is.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
So yeah here it is right there, see Tom or
those of you color radio, Yeah, pretty uh something else
you see. There's a little intended there, a little in there.
I guess that's maybe a survival strategy or something.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
But anyway, we've got quite a few of those on
this series of plants over there, and just monarchs.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Are just crazy. I guess, Hey, hey, Fred, look we
found some.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Weed.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
We'll find slepiots over here at the green and they
all go, oh.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, we'll crawl over there at have the speed of smell.
I'll meet you in a couple of days.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
So anyway, so they're going out, they're moving there very
rapidly reproducing at this point. So you want to watch
out for them and try not to cut out their
their their larvae. They might look somewhat predatory on your plants,
but then if if you can see these black and

(35:59):
white and yellows ripes on it and two sets of antennae, that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They're not really hurting your plant that much. They're only
taking what they need.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Right the monarchs don't.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, but that's one thing we want to preserve because
the populations are going down a little bit, so.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Don't care of them. See something, If you see that
kind of caterpillar, just leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, it's not gonna hurt you.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
And then the next stage is that the crystalis it's
this kind of triangular shape thing. It's got these gold
specks on it, and it's green in color, and typically it'll.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Attach to a a branch or something.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I have one on my purble a few years back,
and it does have little gold spots on it, really
quite nice.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
And then the butterfly is.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Patching this little thing and he grows and he pops
it open and flies away at some point his own
back down south for the winter.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I've always wondered there's a caterpillar remained conscious when going
through this transformation.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I don't know. I'd rather imagine it's kind of like adolescence.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, there's there's no conscience going on there. Boy.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
You know, if there was a period of time in
our lives that we wish that we could go through
it without really having to go through it, it would
have been that, I guess.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
But anyway, so we do have a selection of plants
that you can put in your garden, and you might
want to go ahead and plant for next year maybe
to have.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
A butterfly garden, if you will. And the butterfly garden
has to be pretty good sized for it.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
To attract them, because you have to, you know, fly
around and hey, hey, Mike, here, I found Fundy, and
Mike tells Charlie, and Charlie tail George and they all
gang up on your butterfly garden or actually are they
just fly over and just by by stumbling they come
across it too. So so anyway, you might consider that

(37:58):
it didn't have to be a butterfly garden per se.
You can plant some of these sclapias and et cetera
plants that the butterflies really like, and with your other
plants too, so it doesn't have to be really one specifically.
You might put it behind the shrubs or in with
your shrub somewhere to try to help them along so

(38:19):
they can make new butterflies all year round. So anyway,
consider maybe planting something for butterflies. And we do have
some plants that they do that roses right now, I
noticed the roses are making a bit of a comeback.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
The knockouts are knocking it out.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
With a little cooler.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Weather occurrence here coming on, they're making a bit of
a comeback, so they're going to do very well just fall.
Hopefully you cut them back in July and August so
the bush out and do a real nice I did
mine surviving knockout roses. They cut them way back in July,
and they're starting to branch out and put on some

(38:55):
flowers right now too, So you might consider fertilizing too,
and get ready to mulch for the winter so they.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Can survive the cold. Real will also vegetables.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Enjoy the turnips you planted a few months ago, trying
to plant peas, the radishes, leaks and coal crops, col
crops like cabbage and kale and whatnot, and then you'll
have something to gnaw on in.

Speaker 15 (39:18):
The winter time.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
The most frequently asked question this week was how can
I transplant my shrubs?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
My shrubs?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
And can I transplant my shrubs now? And while it's
hot like this? The answer is no, No, You want
to wait till the cool zine. You want to wait
till the cool weather on the horizon also just so
they don't if apple transperate too much and desiccate to die.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Because you do lose part.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Of the rist system when you do transplant something, so
you want to wait till the weather is moist enough
and cool enough. It's where they don't have to be
in surviva mode just to survive the heat as well
as losing a good portion of their their rooting system.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So I'd wait just a little while longer before you
do that, got it, And then the.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Best thing you can do if you want to transplant
something is in the spring, and it takes a while.
You do make some vertical cuts with a shovel to
make the root system spread out closer in and then
it'll survive the transplanting a little bit later on, rather
than trying to do it all at once because the
roots through the feed the roots are kind of far
out from the plant, and if you do take a shovel.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
You might want to sharpen it first.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Of course, a dull shovel makes no fun, no fun
with and that'll trend the roots so they can branch
out closer to the plant so when it comes time
to print to transplant almost say plant trans anyway, transplant.
They'll survive a lot better with a more close end
root system.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Okay, got it all right? I tell you what. We
have to take a break. It's a long one too.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well, we'll be right back after this four minute, twenty
five second break.

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The original Waldorf Astoria Hotel on Fifth Avenue in New
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three hundred rooms, making it the largest hotel in the
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the Waldorf. Later that year, they sold the buildings and
the land to a corporation named Empire State, Inc. Their
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(44:02):
chandeliers which hung in the tap room of the hotel.
When the hotel was gutted in preparation for the demolition,
Frank was given those ornate lights. He promptly shipped them
to Oklahoma and had them hung in the Great living
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Whenever asked by guests about the lights, Frank liked a
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Speaker 1 (45:24):
Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. He's Larry Glass.
I'm Tom Davis, and we've got a caller on the line.
Good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program.
Your question or comment for Larry. Okay, guess the uh,
I guess they didn't want to hang around.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Okay, that's a convention in town.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know sometimes the folks think they called
pixel flat or something like that, and they go, oh,
talking talking to you.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Larry last, he's a star. I don't even buy all right, Yeah, anyway,
eight fifty four.

Speaker 12 (45:57):
Where are you?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
What you got? Larry?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
We talked about all kinds of things today really and
uh call it a lot lawns and time to kind
of plan your landscape too, no kidding, have some on
the drying board and to present.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Also between fix and trucks and putting stuff on the ground.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I got to try to got to do that.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
We're going to start a big old shrink or system
this week too wonderful that and getting the parts.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Together on that. You got to call the utilities.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Be sure to call, ok whenever you do something like
that in the backyard, just just because you don't want
to break something and ruin the football game.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, you can do that.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Or or maybe maybe you can knock out somebody's Internet
and you know, and really set them on their Amazon.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
You know a funny story about that. We were putting
a a some landscaping in someplace. We had the utilities marked, yeah,
no problem, and then we were digging around and we
hit a line line. Would it have been a cable line?
And the customers watching the inauguration of a president?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (47:07):
And uh, well, I'm sorry, but they didn't market. I
mean it's right over there, but they didn't do this one.
So I got out my pocket knife and and some
wire nuts and put her cable back together so she
can watch it.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
My gosh, and we're just flying.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
As far as I know, it's still working.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
It just don't depend on to make sure you get
all your lines.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
They had our company and they did a proper patch
on it. So it's very important to you to know
where all.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
That stuff is.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah, when you're doing something, especially something like a sprinkler system, golly,
because that's a major tear up of the yard. I mean,
it's a network of piping contrenches in someone. There's a
lot of working.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Bob with one of these two, well, good thing the
ones you guys do last for thirty years or better.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
I had a customer come by the nursery. She had
a question about her plants. She's, well, my sprinkler system
is still working though, so I really would said, yeah,
y'all put it in forty years ago and still work
just fine.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Okay, great, said, I think.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
The other folks in town, some of the other folks
in town can't see that.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. So the repairs I
got to do it is crazy. Some of the stuff
out there. People put stuff together. It's you know, just
kind of crazy and how in the world is even
work my gosh. But anyway, so yeah, where sprinkler system? Yeah,

(48:36):
and golly, they got these timers out now that are
web based. You can control it with your phone. Like
I came home yesterday. The supplier gave me a demo
and I got on my phone turned on there just
like that you can you can have the timer in
your garage, but you don't have to access the timer
at all. You access it from your from your cell phone.

(48:58):
And also these app into the weather surface as well,
and it will adjust it based on matter rain or
how hot and dry it is. It'll increase the time
and all that, and it will also cut it off
as there's rainy, rainy periods to save you a whole
you know, a whole bunch of bunch of water. So
that and you know you don't over water your plants

(49:20):
that way too, but you do need to occasionally do
a test run and just do a walk around there,
make sure everything's okay, because you got long oders and
we wacks, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, whenever humans are involved, things can happen.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
And when when you put a sprinter head next to
the sidewalk, we have what we call those dato's two
fingers away from the concrete to do that. So the
edger when you run the edge along the sidewalk, it
doesn't create an old faithful geyser on the on the
nobody needs that, So two fingers and no, you're not

(49:56):
making with you. It's it's a distance between the edge
of the cement and your sprinkler head. Okay, and also
you got to take an account of your available water
pressure too, how much water is available not number one,
number two, How far is it from the water main
the waterline coming into the house, what size is it? Also,

(50:20):
all these factors have to be have to play into
this because it's kind of like wiring a house if
you will.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
You don't run everything on a sixteen.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Gauge wire too, because it'll get real hot and you know,
or the lights will get dim or something. You want
to make sure that it's broken up in the different
circuits that the water can handle. And also you have
to consider the drainage and the sunshine, the types of plants,
what kind of grass you have, and the soil type,

(50:49):
all this stuff when designing a sprinkle system.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
So once you factor it all in, it runs very
very efficiently. Hey, what's going on at the store?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Goll it.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
We've got all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
You a great selection of pansies and kale and cabbys
right now at the nursery to look at, and some
of the plant too. The moms, oh they're beautiful, they're
they're just running out the door and some of them
they got their own zip code.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Really nice and big big old one plants too. If
you want to make a big impact at the front door,
these a great job of that too. And Golly Tom,
as usual.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Keep your shovel sharp, guy. We will see you next week.

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All right, folks, you've been listening to the Green Country
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