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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
John Hart, Jane Phillips and Bartlesville.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program
right here on K one. He I'm fourteen hundred, FM
ninety three point three and FM ninety five point one.
The Green Country Gardner Program with our expert Larry Glass,
is brought to you by Green Clumb Nursery and Greenhouses United, Reynolds,
Kelly Banks, Tree Service, Roman's Outdoor Power Accent, Pest Control, Ascension,

(00:30):
Saint John, Jane Phillips and Gateway First Back. Good morning,
good morning, good morning, welcome, welcome, welcome time now for

(00:50):
the Green Country Gardner. Our expert is Larry Glass. I'm
Tom Davis. I understand the phone will be Sully one
eight hundred and seven four nine five ninety three six.
Larry Glass. I just saw a darling picture of your
your granddaughter. She just started walking a little bit of going.
Now your daughter hands are taking out the trash. What's
going on with that?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Said this picture?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Boys, that didn't take long. Yeah, she's got got grandpa's
work ethic.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Going on there and tearing the trash can out. That's
so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I didn't know she could pick that thing up. My god,
she's strong, just like you are.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Got one of these little pebble flintstone things.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh yeah, the little little car, little princess car there.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
She likes that. Yeah, but still they do the wagon
ride every morning. You gotta do around the neighborhood. You
gotta do this in South Carolina where you can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, but hey, you know what, she likes that little
car so much. When you get ready to retire, and
I know you never will, but if you do, you
got to save that truck of years. It's been running
steady for you for forty.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Years, because I know it's forty years old.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
And she liked that. She'd be about to tim to
drive about the time you decided to.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
You know that old thing, it starts within within a
half a second. Boy, you gotta you gotta maintain your
stuff people, You do that. The same thing goes with plants, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
You do. You got to take good care of them
so they can take care of you.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
To maintain your plants very well too. And we've it's
not been difficult to watering. Oh no lately. No three
inches in the rain gage this morning? Wow, geez.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
You know I took the drive into to work as
I always do over the Caney River bridge and there's
a pecan grove. It's soaked. It's it's about up to
the contill feed up the trunk.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
They can handle that for a while, Sure they can't.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's why they're planting out there in the spill.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
How do you know how deep the roots going up
a contry?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
They all waited that they're in China, Australia, Australia. Even farther.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
It's more a straight line.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Well, anyway, there are preconderance to go through the earth. Yes, wow,
that's deep anyway. Right now, the daily laies are starting
to bloom.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well good because of daytime.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Really, so there is some yellowing in the leaves.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Is that from the water.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It's just rotten, a little bit of stem rot on them.
I have something in front of my front of my
house that are just kind of gone ast enthusiasm. Yeah,
too much, too much water. So they're blooming right now.
It's time to of course fertilize that from meto grass,
and I've been doing it regularly. Now my grass is
finally recovering after what three years of drought. I'm starting

(03:44):
to get along again.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Did you use natural diffusion with the rain. Yes, the
here it comes, will be here in an hour.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, right now, Yeah, I know it happened before that.
Here comes the rain to get the front line with
it doesn't ring.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
We've been two years of that.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yes, there's still plenty of time to plant annuals. I
have some in the backyard that I haven't planted yet,
so and you can create a decorative pots. I have
builts in the backyard in the front and they're on
an electronic drip system thing. So pretty cool. Indeed, six
o'clock every morning to get water. Yeah, it's a drip

(04:30):
thing and drip system. It's really efficient actually because it
doesn't forget.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
And the plants thank you.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
You come home.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah, it's happened to me. Before you come home to
the plants are just hanging in the breed. So I said,
I'm going to fix that. So yeah, anyway, so that's
that's cool. So still time to plant some angels and
create some decorative pots. Watch out for bagworms. They're starting
to become out. I don't know how bad they're going
to be because because it's it's relatively cool this year.

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Usually when we have a kind of a cool summer,
there's not as bad as when it gets really really hot.
But anyway, at this point in time, you want to
look at your genniferous species and pines and whatnot for
tent not tent cata, but backwards.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, poor insects. The tent caterpillars haven't made a show
yet really. But one thing that's really really bad is
a scale insect. We've discussed this in the past. It's
a tough one to control really, But anyways, so the
scales insect that is really making a comeback, and it's
actually css crossing species lanes, you know, between different species

(05:43):
of plants that previously haven't had problems with it.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Oh, so they're spreading their influence though.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, let's go that's a nice living guard. Let's
go have a bove. Oh my gosh, they're growing after
your burning bullish and your manhattans. And I haven't seen
it on the box would yet, but I'll give it time,
you really give it time. But they are getting to
be pretty bad. So and we have a solution at
that for that at the nursery too. So typically a

(06:12):
spinazad take care of it, takes care of it. You
do want to apply a torment oil before the leaves
come out in the spring to control overwintering eggs and
whatnot of the scale insect And also there's some people
say you can put ditamacious earth around the base of
the plant because the scale insects hibernated in the winter,

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if you will, and you have to go through that
to get up to the top. So, uh, you know,
dietamacious earth.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Is yeah, yeah, so crunchy.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
It's basically a little fossilized little microbes. Yeah, white cliss
of dover for instance, a little things and they have
a very sharp skeleton, actually a very sharp points on
this and down at that almost microscopic level, it pierces
the insect body and it dries out.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Not much fun when you're all right out.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, really, all these dehydrated bugs everywhere. It also is
good for slugs and snails. They don't like it. It's itchy.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well okay, I don't take your word for it.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I don't know if it works physiologically against them, like
at as insects, but they they away from it. Like sawdust,
that's pretty good too. Go to the local lumbergarden, say
I need a bucket of sawdust.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
There happens to be one next door to you take
it please, Yeah, and that's that.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
The slugs don't like that because it tickles their little toes,
so they're you know, there are other ways to control that.
But anyway, at the nursery, we have container and bald
broad out trees that can be planned at anytime. You
really just don't want to move them at this point
the year. Typically, at this time of the year, the
hawsers are really exhibiting good leaves and starting to bloom
right now too, and the hydrangeas are in full bloom

(08:08):
right now. They're really quite showy at this point. And
somebody came in wanting to buy one. I said, well,
what kind of solil do you have? You said, yuck,
it's terrible. Said these don't work.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, you're just going to have a stick out there
for too long.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You need to modify the soil for hydrongen. There's one
plant that's not indigenous to this area and will not
do well in our native soil. That's the hydrangea that rhododendron, right, well, rhododendrons. Yeah, really,
for the most part, there's one variety of rhodod intern
that does better it's called volting anyway, and it is

(08:42):
red in color. And amongst the rhotodendrons is the one
that really does pretty well. They do require if you
can get them. We don't carry them for obvious reasons
because they just don't do well here. Yeah, but sometimes
the big buck stores will sell simon. People get slickered
in and you.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Know, first moved here before start wars.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, but there rhododendans are and azaleas are related to
each other. But the azelius can take the heat we
have here much better than the rhododendrants do. The rotodendrons
get a leaf or a stem virus actually it calls
us a stem to turn black and it collapses, and.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's what happened. Yeah, So so death Larry was just
painful to watch.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
We went to uh northern Georgia one time and took
a trek through the woods to see waterfall. Rhotodendrons everywhere,
big old plants, and they do very well in that
volcanic soil in amongst the oak trees and a city
type soil, they do quite well. Big things too, built
more house and gardens in Ashville, giant rhotodendrons, and then

(09:54):
the string to really quite show you. But here this
is you know, we have a lamy soil and they're
just not yeah okay, so yeah, we do have also
encore as alias and they can't they bloom in periods
of time. Whenever there's a rather dramatic climate change, they'll bloom.

(10:18):
There's weird plants. But anyway, they did do pretty well.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And like a like all azelias, they're they're aer a caaceous,
just like rhododads, and they require acid soil.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But these can tolerate the heat real well. And you
look at your zelious and look at the leaf size
if you remember to leave them about as big as
a silver dollar when you get them. And if they
and then they start to shrink.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
A little bit, like down to a nickel, Yeah, down
to a nickel and sometimes down to a dime even less.
And and that's a sign that the soil pH is
too high. So as remedied by either using iron sulfate
or just a good fertilizer.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Is that a house this week? And there shars looked
really good. And she had some problems a couple of
years ago when we had a real bad freeze and
starting to make a recovery. But in the meantime she's
had some bore infestations and so on. But anyway, we're
exhibiting that diminished leaf size something we planted fifteen years ago,

(11:18):
and I say, just put in a Z for a
lesser on them, or some maybe some FM salt that
will lower the pH and then they should be able
to take up nutrients in when the pH is proper
pop up for pH exactly. So we we live in
a you know, a climate here where the indigenous species
is Johnson grass and hackberries. So uh, it's a very

(11:43):
young soil, actually very much so, and it hasn't really
had time to have stuff growing on it to really
change the chemistry of the soil. And we also have
a kind of a limestone base here, so the pH
does didn't run a little bit on the high side.
That explains the pink hydrant dranges and so on in
people's gardens. So she one customer asked me, well, my, yeah,

(12:06):
these are beautiful blue hydrangeas that mind turned pink. As
you needs something to acidify the soil. Typically iron sulfate
will work. Aluminum sulfate's a little hot. You have to
be very careful with it, and magnesium sulfate is kind
of the same way, but iron sulfates a little bit
more gentle. But the drawback is it can stain the
sidewalks too. Oh yeah, I turn it a little orange

(12:29):
exactly so. But so typically the aluminum sulfate is the
one that people use, but you have to be careful
with it because it is rather strong. So if you
want blue hydragis then and they're they're pink, you're like
litmus paper. You remember in chemistry and he school, Uh,
the it's good indicator that of your soil pH the

(12:51):
pink flowers on your blue hydragens. There are some parallels
with the hydragen the oak lea hydrogen friends since doesn't
really have any color except for ruby slippers.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's the name of a well yeah, I know that.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
They typically have white flowers and they're more tolerant of
tolerant of soil conditions than regular hydrangens. And we've had
some fungus problems too this year on the oak leaf hydrangis,
these brown spots and the leaves will fall off turned
red and they kind of fall off, So just pick

(13:31):
them off and throw away and when the weather gets
normal they should recover too fine.

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I've lived here for six years.

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What's normal? The only thing normal about our weather is
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Speaker 4 (16:11):
We were discussing plants that don't do well here. Let's
talk about some plants that do do well here.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
That would be good because you'd really like to sell
something some day stay away from.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Annual of the week is salvia, and annual salvia is
a tender tropical perennial. They call them tropical perennials, okay,
but they don't take the cold, so here they're annuals
semi tropical language. Seasonal annuals if typically growing warm weather
and makes a really good betting plant. Now, these are
available in several different kinds. We have some that have

(16:48):
blue flowers on them, which are really nice, and the
standard red salvia. We all familiar with the red hot
sally salvia, and that does quite well here in our
in our climate. It so they make good say they
get a little bit tall, so they make good backdrop plants,
maybe in front of your pair of winkles or pink petunias,
your wave petunias, the bright pink one everywhere. So they

(17:13):
have really good plants for some hype. Keep in mind
they get pretty good sizes too, so give them room
to grow. Make sure you have enough room for them
in the in the composition so they don't overcrowd and
too too much stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
So yeah, get carried away with themselves.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Keep in mind they get about this this bigger round
big as a little bigger than a bowling ball in size,
so they will get to be a pretty good size soup.
So salvia is a good one I have here. It
is characterized by a square stem. Remember the mint family.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Okay, there you go, square, sim is square.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
And I had to teach my guys that, Yeah, you
can tell us as salvia by the square stem. And
colis falls into that same category. And the flower structure
on a colius it's fairly similar to that of a mint,
and they have the square stem. I said, if you
can cross that with a pine tree, the lumbers already square.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah you go, you'd buy force by the acre.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
But anyway, this one is extraordinarily easy to grow. They
have very few bug problems or a fungus problems too,
so they're very well adapted for our climate here. So
I like to use that as a backdrop in the
landscape because they do a little bit on the tall side,
or as a center a center point plant in a
planter pot if you will. You know, a big flower, Yeah,

(18:40):
what's the word I want to use, not a pot
but a planter if you will. Yeah, and the backdrop really,
so consider that in the landscape because they are rated.
They have very few insect pets too. You might get
something gnawing on the leaf now and then, but really
they don't have much of a problem. So in average
or a rich soil and fertilized as needed. So if

(19:04):
they're looking a little punk, maybe they need some miracle
or something to give them getting going. I like to
use osma coat in pots and things because it gives
use fertilizer all the time in to worry about it.
Ozma coat is I do know if we have any
of the nursery or not, but anyway, it is a
fertilizer that's encapsulated in a semipermeble membrane and every time

(19:25):
water goes through it, it enters that and it dissolves
part of the fertilizer and rented on through.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
So that's a pretty cool thing to do for fertilizing
your plants and just kind.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Of a set of it and using osmosis and diffusion
at the.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Same time exactly, So anyway that pays attention. Anyway you
plant your salabia, an average or soil that might be
added with a compost in it, and fertilizer is needed.
Over a long season, flowers will kind of drop off,
kind of leaving a ragged stripe, So the kind of
trim them down there to make them look nice. It's

(20:03):
not completely set it and forgeted, so it was a
little bit of works involved with it. If that happened,
just cut it back really new growth emerged and just
find snails and slugs kind of likes aalba pretty well too.
They think of it as a delicious treat, especially when
the conditions are really moist right now. So in light

(20:25):
of that, you might consider putting some sawdust around because
the slugs don't like it. It tickles their little toes
and then they don't like they don't like the texture
of the sawdust. They're also dietamacious earth. We might have
a bit of a problem this year with slugs.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I haven't seen them at my house yet. No, my
cannons are up, by the way, they're doing quite well.
Really in this last week they've gone from just coming
up to knee high. They really grow and developed quickly.
I dug them all up and replanted them in the
yard and gave them away and and uh so they're
doing really well. So they do like the moist weather,

(21:05):
but they do, and then they hate when it comes
in really like that too. There like that today Sunday.
I'll get my gardening done early.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Then a little humid around here, all right.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
So but anyway, so the annuals or the salvias, that's
really well candid, the real backdrop plants and the flowers
are pretty. That leads us to our perennial a week,
which is hardy hibiscus. The hearty hibiscus is a perennial plant,
and they do like a full open sun as much

(21:43):
as possible, and they turn turn into this rather large
shrub over time with rather large flowers on them. So
it's a really interesting thing, and it's a hearty annual.
They come back every year. They have these big old
flowers on them too. So they do like rich more soils.
They say that all the time, we got a color.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
We do, all right, Good morning, and welcome to the
Green Country Gardener Program. Your question or comment for Larry.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
Hi, I'm gonna have a question about tulip bulbs. Yes,
now that they're done learning, what should I do? Am
I supposed to dig them up and let them dry
and storm? And also I have some bulbs that got
forgotten to be planted. So should I just hold them

(22:35):
back until next fall? Or do they need to be
put in the ground for a while and then took up?

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah? They the tilip can be dug up by virtue
of they need to be the divided on occasion. Typically
they will survive, you know, throughout the year and come
back up in the next spring. But the problem is
with tilip's here they get a little bit crowded and
are soil isn't exactly like it isn't Holland so and

(23:03):
they do tend to get their subject to insect problems
and whatnot, So digging up digging them up probably wouldn't
be too bad an idea.

Speaker 11 (23:13):
What about the ones that I got forgot to get planned?

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
They yeah, they you need to get those in the ground.

Speaker 11 (23:24):
Really need to put them in the ground for.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
A while, I would say, yeah, because or either that
or put them in pots or something. Yeah, it's not
in their nature to be dormant that long, and they
tend to dry out, uh huh, So yeah, they probably
won't won't do anything next spring, if if they even
survive at all, So you might want to consider maybe
putting them in pots or something or or in the
ground just so they can the bulb can come back

(23:49):
alive if you will. But yeah, the chances are they
won't survive going into the fall. Okay, they're they're not seeds,
They're they're.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
Bulbs, So yeah, I understanding there. Yeah, okay, all right, right,
thank you.

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It is and it is, And welcome back to the
Green Country Gardener Program. Our telephone number is one eight
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Speaker 4 (26:40):
Really, the hard of Hibiscus are Hibiscus mushadows okay, which
is a genus and species of the plant. It's a
native to Marsha areas of North America. Yes, and they
go by the name common name of mallow. And really
they can tolerate all kinds of conditions. They don't necessarily

(27:01):
have to grow in the marsh, but they can grow
in all kinds of conditions. Marsh. Well, they can take
the marshmallow.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, right, they can hung it out there, man, I know.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Anyway, they could take all kinds of conditions. But when
they're when they boom, they're really quite showy. So you
put them in an area that's well drained and a
significant amount of sunshine and they do pretty well. Some
of the red ones bloom for an extended period of
time in the summer too. These, like any pernial, don't
simply just don't bloom all the time. Exception to the

(27:37):
rule would be, uh, lantana, hardy Lantana blooms basically all
summer long. How many words like the two but anyway,
the plus bonus, Yeah, so how many birds do like
Lantana's real? Well, anyway, so you might consider planting this
and but give it room because it does need a
lot of space, at least a six by six foot

(27:59):
area for it to grow.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
And maure spread out.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
And do it it'll crowd out a lot of things,
so they need some space. But the flowers are really
quite showy. Good organic soil. They don't do well in
the clay, so you want to prepice soil real well
with a lot of composts or something, and the pretty
good work the dirt. But they can take some drop,
but they can only take so much and they're just

(28:23):
non productive. So watch the water on this one. You
want to give it some water occasionally just to keep
it going real well in the summertime. Mulching helps too,
so harder Hibiscus a good specimen interest plant with only
a timeframe, so it really would be kind of a
subspecies or not really a mainstained the landscape, but good

(28:46):
backdrop plant. Okay, roses also, time to turn back your
roses a little bit. As it gets hot, the road
show is going to diminish somewhat. Look for damage from
the storms. Rotted, yeah, you know, stuff that's not doing
very well. So look at your roses real well. Always
cut it at a node. A node is a point

(29:08):
where the new butt is coming out, so and it's
typically characterized by a circular. That's where they want to
use a circle of the tissue, it's kind of brownish
on the stem.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
So a ring around the stem.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, a ring around the stem, yeah, that works. And
in between the leaves though, if you leave a stub
over there, that will kind of rot off and it
takes a plant a long time to heal. If you
do it at a node typically, that's where the growth
tissue is the same thing holds true with trees too,
when you trend them back, you cut them at a node,
that's where the growth tissue is, and it will heal

(29:50):
up a lot quicker, just like new So anyway, roses
do fine. We've passed the cooler weather and there's some
pretty showy roses out there, so they do. There are
when it when it does get hot, if it will,
I don't know. Noah's ark went went down frank Phiders
and Boulevard are two nights ago, so and I was

(30:11):
looking at the weather for next week. Here we go again,
So this is weird. But anyway, so yeah, just trimming
back a little bit.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
The the disease to get the most is black spot
and black stopped. Black spot is characterized by hot, moist
weather and we haven't really had the heat yet, so
the roses are really enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's coming.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'll get here. It's inevitable, so enjoy them.
Why you can fertilize them lightly on occasionally. Just don't
do a big chunk of fertilizer and set it and forget.
It's not one of those kinds of things. You have
to fertilize it kind of on a regular basis, so
we don't have a feast and famine kind of a
deal on the on the roses. So just a either

(30:57):
rose fertilizer per se, uh, the one thing, and the
ozma cultoral works pretty well because it'll do it for you.
It just won't work unless you put water through it.
But anyway, so fertilizing one occasion to do pretty well.
Lawns right now. Crabgrash control quintle racks a good one,

(31:19):
or msma works pretty good to control cribgraphs. I know
I had some in my gyarden and sprays and stuff
on it that got rid of it for some part,
and it's starting other parts are making me come back.
So I might give it a bit of a sing here.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Tomorrow if it teach a lesson huh.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Exactly to control that crabgrass. It does very well in
the heat of the midsummer. If the crab grass gets
too mature, it's very difficult to control. You almost have
to get in there with a danda lamppull or dig
it out or something, because it gets more resistant to
these post emergent controls once it gives, once it gets old,

(32:00):
and it's very hard to control. Okay, at first, a
relatively a dense, fairly healthy lawn is a good prevention
for weeds. Actually, if you keep your lawn real well,
fertilize it on occasion and water now and then it
gets real dry and then usually the weeds don't are
too much of a problem. Good this year, my lawn's

(32:22):
actually making a recovery. Actually, it looks pretty nice dog
on it. Really. Yeah, we've had some rain this is
and I was looking at the past weather charts and
we've had a couple three years of really dry weather,
so I think we're just making it up for lost time.

(32:43):
So looking at the weather for this week, there's some
more chances of brain middle and middle in the end
of the week, So good opportunity if you haven't done
yet to fertilize that lawn. You can there's a lot
of sick looking for muda lawns out there, and it
should take over and make it grow. The mutigrass will
grow pretty well to choke out other things, just because

(33:05):
it does grow so dense. If the conditions are right,
and I like to add iron, you get just backed
up iron stuff and it does a good job of
darkening the color nice big green, deep deep, deep lush
green color mutiograss. Typically it's kind of an olive green color,
but you can play around with it a little bit,

(33:28):
get some iron iron sulfate on it or something, and
it'll darken the color really well. So so fertilization is good.
Uh we watched the forecast and if there's rain coming,
then good idea to get these long fertilized. Or if
you have a sprinkling system, just to get on your
phone and punch the gold button on that.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
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bill to share, it's for.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Sure, yeah, I know. Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Anyway, that's fit with lawns really. All right, let's take
a quick break. We'll do right back after this two.

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the air learning glass our guru today.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Fine, and in light of the rain, let's let's talk
a little bit about irrigation system.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Let's do that because it's not gonna rain forever.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yeah, Sprinker systems are really good. For giving you water
on demand when you want it, and all that too,
and that just like everything else, there's a certain degree
of engineering involved with an irrigation system. Think of it
as the electrical system in your house, okay, and really
you want to keep your what.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
We had to do.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Hello, There's actually two classes of pipe in an irrigation system.
One it's called the static line, yes, which is some
people call it the loop line, but I call it
the static line because it doesn't do anything but carry
water for one place to another.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
There you go so pace in one place that is static.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
So you want to keep your pipeline velocity in your
pipe down to five feet per second. Okay, if you
have a circuit, you got good pressure. Yeah, I can
put all kinds of heads on it and it will
run just fine.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
But when that valve shuts off, it shuts off slams,
and ultimately your valves will break and your static line
might break too. So that's why when I've had systems
we I've got a house. We put one in nineteen
eighty five, still work and it still works. Wow. All
the valves are still working, and all the emails ancient

(37:42):
EV one hundreds are still working.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Just like your truck. Take care of it.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
It'll take care I know. But yeah, we had this.
It's a kind of a small property, but we have
what twelve circuits in it, and we're only pulling fifteen
gpm at the most. Okay, and then that's that equals
about a five feet per second on your static line
X number of p s. I folks didn't know.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
You're going to have to do math today.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And then and then when it when the valve shuts,
it shuts real slowly. And and we're doing another circuit
system out here. I've just kind of north of town
a little bit, and we put a two inch line
in because it's a big area. It's a large area
of water gage and you don't want to lose your
your water capacity. Not far away from the from the

(38:32):
input and the intake input pipe was one inch, so
I bumped it up to two inch. And that cuts
the pipeline velocity down if you've splits from a circuit
on a circle, down to about two feet per second.
And it's so poetic when the valves just ship, they
just go, don't you do that? It's absolutely silent in
the clothes, so the valves are going to last forever

(38:54):
because there you go not stress, and you have enough
enough heads on there water given area, and he controls it.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
But its phone telephone. Yeah wow.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
So you go outside and oh, I want to water.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
You know, you have a couple of digits the next thing,
you know.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah. So anyway, so if they're engineering properly, it'll last
a long time. Like I said, I've got someone in
town that are thirty forty years old and they're still
working without any problems. You just have to do the math.
And we were doing some repairs on some of them,
and man, the water goes through there and it they

(39:35):
got too many gallons for a minute on that, and
the house just rattles. Oh it shuts off and bang
bang bang.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
You know like this that's going to drive you nuts.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
I know, well at least you know when it's going.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, but rough on the equipment.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Let's tell you this is something we learned back in school,
is to keep your pipeline velocity down to a certain
feet per second just because all that water, all that inertia.
This water doesn't compress, you know, and if you just
off real quick, got a smack, it goes this way
and then it comes back that way and sometimes you can

(40:12):
hear it in the house. So anyway, so yeah, do
your engineering on the sprinkleer system and they'll lasts a
long time. It's no problem at all. So also there's
different rates of precipitation on the sprinker heads too. Okay,
the diameter of the nozzle there is a big factor
in that. And if you have a lot of slope,
if you would go ahead and go ahead with your

(40:33):
fifteen gpm or whatever, but you put a smaller diameter nozzle.
We ran into that on a repair we were doing
for not one of ours. But and the water just
runs down the hill, I said, running down the hill
because you have a three point zero nozzle. So we
change it to a one point five nozzle. Administer water

(40:54):
at a rate at which the ground could absorb. So
if you put too much water down at one on
the ground can absorb it on the slope like that,
and it runs down to the street.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Keep the water where you need it.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
But but go ahead and and and distribute the water
in a given area, especially on a slope, at a
rate which the ground could absorb than putting too much
on it at a given time, letting it run off.
So that's another factor. Soil type, yeah, soil type and slope.
It's all all comes down to saving water. I mean

(41:31):
I see so many sprinkle systems going in the morning
on the way to work, water running down the street.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
I'll tell you off air where I saw one going
this morning on my way in. You'll get a chuckle.
We can't sure it though.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
After the rain that one, yes it was raining. Whoa,
Well they have rain sensors, and you know a standard
option on all of ours is a rain and freeze sensor.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
That one wasn't working, looking like Chesars Palace.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Well, so yeah, I thought you get out. I know
which one you're talking about. I drive by that every
morning at six o'clock and it just runs down and
goes down down to gutter.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Liked.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
The interest rates are so low over there. So another
way to irrigate your your flowers, the things. There's a drip.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
System like you have at your house.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
That's something I've instituted at the house too, and it
does very well too. It distributes water.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
You're pretty proud of that because your plants are happy.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, well no, no, it's it's it's effective
and I've done some experimenting with it, and it's turned
out to be really quite quite successful. Quite successful. Yes,
so get out, just sing again and then tell it
where I wanted to water and it goes. I don't
really like to do the shrub beds and automatically. I

(43:06):
just like to do it as needed, because in light
of this weather we even having, you really don't need
to water much of anything now. Now the pots, though,
and the hanging baskets, they're they're set up to run
every day at six o'clock for X number of time
because they don't get atmospheric rain under the eve of
the house. So those are set differently than than the others.

(43:29):
The other air the front beds are are automatic. But
it's shut down now because the app and the thing
has a setting in there that responds to the weather.
It gets some data from the Weather Service and it
shuts it down accordingly. If A don't know how much

(43:51):
rain you had, you entered data in there. What kind
of SOUI you have all this other stuff and it
uses AI. You don't know if it's a I or not.
I think it's just it's just just a algorithm. Really sure,
Yeah that it takes that into account and it takes
data from the weather Weather Department and computes how much

(44:14):
time you need to.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Go worst defenders of sprinklers going off while there's massive
amounts of rain Florida hurricane and by golly, a bank
or whatever, it's got the big beautiful rush lawn and
bushes here that's going on in a hurricane. Yeah, and

(44:35):
of course it's not going on their grass. It's hitting
a pizza hut across the street. Because you know, it's
going eighty mile an hour sideways. They're like going, Thanks
the bunch, were getting enough from the sky, you know. Yeah,
but yeah, even in a general rain.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Now, my parents had a house on theret Island in Florida,
beautiful place, and they had a well that would take
the water from this drowns porous under there and gets
a lot of water. Most everywhere does, unless everybody had
a well in the garage, a shallow well. It goes
down about four inches in the ground. We found it stink.

(45:15):
It has just this sulfully stinky smell, kind of like
frogs and eggs. Yeah, rotten eggs, that's what. And I
guess it's something to get used to down there, because
everybody everybody had shallow wells that to irrigate with and
in the morning. But but but you've been there, you know,
about a week or so, and you're used to it

(45:37):
so and it makes all the gutters and there with
the concrete old brown. I guess there's some iron in
with it too. I don't know. But they had beautiful
uh you know, uh grass. I forget what they call it.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Salt grass.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
No, I can't think of it right now, anybody. It
won't it won't grow here. It's a very like for metographs,
so very much, I'll think as.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
It's very much like I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, So anyway, it's kind of time to maybe
think about doing a landscape plan. I've got someone on
the drawing board and I've got something going back and
forth with the customers to try to get it, you know,
get it right. But uh, I go go to your
house and take some measurements and some pictures and whatnot,
and actually build the house virtually and come up with

(46:29):
a landscape plan. You can see what it looks like.
And these things here they are good duck.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
A communication tool because I can send it to them
as as the progress is being made on the design
and they can come back with some comments. So so it's.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
A good way to works on your phone, just like
a gym.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah, then they can zoom in and look at it
on their telephone.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
That could be our housewise.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
I think emails becoming a thing of the past.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
You know when you text somebody that you got the
cost points on on the graphic, don't you cost points? Yeah?
Yeah yeah, price of Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Really, we kind of settled on a on a design first,
what's it going to look like? And soon the program
will generate a cost but it's kind of generic. It's
kind of well anyways, it's not that.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Good, So talk design first.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
You have to take the plants and do that and
see what size we have in the nursery and how
much it costs and all that stuff to together in
factoring the tax and the labor and compost. It doesn't
do all that. So anyway, so we can communicate very
well back and forth on the design.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
How convenient is that?

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Yeah, some people are thrilled, you know, oh.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
You have to go over the neighbord. Hey, look, Larry said,
we can do this.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Look it's work.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah, so you know, they're calling Larry, Hey, can you
do that my house?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
So anyway, planning planning is very important because you know
what to expect, and typically in the interview with the customer,
I try to get some kind of information as to
how much work they want to put into this landscape.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Have you ever been surprised? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Really, I've had some people say I don't want to
do any gardening. Then a year later they can't get
enough of it because it looks nice.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Oh yeah, they want to take care of it. They
want to know how to keep it going. That one.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, so we just got finished with a big old
project and she just loves it. Yeah. We got another
ad thing.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah we do. We got to get to this one.
I got a little carried away here with you, so
we will be right back after this looks like at
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Jane Phillips in Bartlesville.

Speaker 15 (49:15):
Shortly after Charles Lindberg's transatlantic flight to Europe, the Dole
Pineapple Company sponsored a race from San Francisco to Honolulu
in nineteen twenty seven. Lindberg refused to fly in it,
noting he couldn't miss the continent of Europe, but he's
sure as heck could miss Hawaii. Frank Phillips saw the
race as a great opportunity to advertise his new Phillips

(49:35):
Aviation fuel. Frank found his pilot, a Hollywood stunt pilot
by the name of Arthur Goebels, and named his plane
the Woolarock in honor of the Ranch. Eight planes took
off from San Francisco on August sixteenth, nineteen twenty seven,
and only two planes finished the race. The flight took
over twenty six hours, and the winner was the Woolarock.

(49:56):
Charles Lindbergh described it as the greatest event in air history.
For the next year, that plane barnstormed the country, advertising
Philip's fuel and finally returned to Woollarock. Mister Phillips instructed
his staff to build a stone hanger for the airplane,
which they did, and he stored the plane there. As
he collected more and more art and artifacts, he stored

(50:17):
a lot of it in that hangar until he finally
had to enlarge it. Today, you know that airplane hangar
is the first room of the museum as you walk
out of the Dome room. Next time you visit, remember
what that room's initial purpose was back in nineteen twenty eight.
That same airplane hangs proudly today in the museum at Wollarock,

(50:37):
where magic still happens every day. Welcome home to Wollarock.

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Oh keep that shovel sharp. I guess ay, time time
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