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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning, and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program
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(00:56):
I'm Tom Davis. I'll be answering your calls at one
eight hundred to seven four nine nine three six, but
you'll actually be talking to you. Are expert Larry Glass. Larry,
how are you doing today?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Not bad for an old guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, well, this nice little cool breeze coming through here,
This nice cool front sure paid some big dividends for
you out there on the escaping cruise and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I like this cool weather. At don't get too used
to it, but I think we're getting six Monday. Why
can't it happen Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, it's gonna be pretty much the same. But after that, well,
I think we're gonna slowly go back to you know,
just a little bit south of cremation, you know. So yeah,
it'll be that hot.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, I know. My poor, my poor landscape crew. They're
they're really lacking their day off today.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I bet they are. I bet the age, you know,
at least a year out there in that hot side
every day.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
When you're in your twenties, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You can take it a little bit better.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well to the point there, we have some a little
bit of us in troubles, but I think they'll be okay.
Even I recovered from the heat, so it's not too
bad anyway. In the garden right now, golly, it's a
it's this peak of summer. And I wouldn't recommend planting
a lot of things right now, just trying to maintain
status quo. And if you do want to do some landscape,

(02:17):
get the hard work done right now, Get the ground
prep done, okay, get up early in the morning, get
the beds all defined and all dug out, all that,
and then in another three weeks or so it'll be.
It'll be uh the weather starts to turn around a
little bit, and then the plants will have a better chance.
It's just so hot and golly, you can just lose
a plant just just overnight. The the main reason for

(02:40):
that is the root system is just limited to this
container in which the plant came and uh, it drives
out quicker than their surroundings. And you have to water everything,
you know, pretty heavily. You can water the plants individually,
they'll be okay, but most people just don't want to
do that. On the water the whole thing. Well, yeah,

(03:02):
you put an inch of water down on your on
your beds, Well that's just an inch of water on
top of the pot itself. Ah, and it needs more
than that. So, especially when it's really hot and dry
and windy and sunny and all that. So I would
go ahead and on a landscape, just go ahead and
do your ground prep right now and just get that
in and just wait a little bit until it cools down,

(03:26):
just a bit, just a bit. Get yeah, it's a
little bit. Yeah, I mean it could be done right now,
but you'll have to water your plants specifically individually. You
can't just go push a button in the garage and
be done with it. You have to water them specifically
because because the roots are limited to that one small
area and you're wasting a lot of water too, so
you want to do that. So it's just a good

(03:48):
time to do some thinking and do some ground prep
right now, get ready for it.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Work that dirt so it.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
All comes in with the new shrubs come in and
all that. You've got your ground already. It's it's a
pleasure to plant.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You can just shrip there.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
So yeah, you can just put it in the ground
and say look at this at take off your little
buckeroo right on your stabish on your established stuff. Right now,
you may consider using a pre emergent overside pro Dia
means a good one because the fall, the fall of
weeds will be coming up shortly. Oh yeah those yeah,

(04:24):
the one did the crab well, goodness, the fall coming up.
Weeds will be up in about three weeks or so
that started to come up. So it's a good time
to maybe a plan ahead on that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
We got a color, we sure do. Hi, good morning,
and welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program. Your question
or comment from Larry.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, I have plenty, and this time of the year
they get these little black.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Spots on them.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Is that a contamination from above or.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Let's say a bacterial leaf spot. It's harmless to the plant.
They've already refreshed and fell for the year, so I
wouldn't worry about it too much. Might have been doing that.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
My cuttings off of it.

Speaker 8 (05:09):
I need to put them in the trash so it
doesn't contaminate the multipile I would.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, go ahead, get rid of it when you do
cut them back. Yes, yeah, the pennies, they've already refreshed
up the bulb and they're ready to go for the
next spring. But bacterial leaf spot is very common on
the peony plants and really doesn't hurt them in the
long run. But it's just an appearance issue primarily. Yeah, okay,

(05:36):
all right, thank you, all right, thanks.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
For make sure your call. Appreciate it, and you can
be next up right here and one to eight one
hundred seven ninety six, Larry.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, you could use an antibacterial stuff on it too
to stop that, but it won't. It'll slow it down
a little bit. So it's just it's just Bartlesville and
peonies got it when when I lived up in Chicago,
you lived up there, Yeah, we have ponies, beautiful shrubs
all summer long, all summer long. We didn't have the
heat as much as they had. No In July, I

(06:07):
went to a convention up there. It was fifty five
degrees as a high in July, July the fourth.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That doesn't happen that often up there, but it does happen.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
It.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
We weren't prepared for that.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
And you know when it gets to eighty five to
eighty seven, they are like, oh my gosh, I know.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Crazy way over here. It was over relief. That was
quite a trip. We landed it O'Har and took a
cab and he was going down to Dan Ryan at
ninety miles an hour through the construction zone. Oh yeah,
it's weird that cab drivers are just it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
He was on a mission.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
And then when we got downtown, he's going through red
lights and turns left in front of Did.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You tell him that you weren't a doctor, your.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Wife the emergency. It's just the way we drive here. Okay,
oh they do, they do. Get the Hubert down the street,
tightened up my seatbelt. Okay, you just don't look.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's all. It's the best advice I can. You're bring
the cab in Chicago coming from the airport, just don't look.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I think he's trying to impress my daughter and her
friend at the time.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I bet they were having a ball.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
They thought they were laughing the whole way. But the
cab ride in Chicago was a memorable event.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, maybe you're just trying to get you there alone.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
We got there, we got out of the cabine call
what's the Deal's fifty five? And yeah, we don't have
that problem here.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
At one time, when I was a kid, we went
up to Pelican Lake in July. It was thirty two degrees.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I've seen it snow in June. It didn't last long.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
But we don't have that. I think the coolest yet
is a lot like it was this morning, relatively. Yeah,
there you go, So so anyway, on your beds right now,
if you you don't, if you do, use up emergence,
und your bed now, it's the time to consider doing that.
It takes a while to get into the into the
soil where it'll work, so you don't want to wait
till the till the weeds come up and then apply

(08:10):
you want to apply it right now. So and also
water properly, of course, on your things. Properly, I say water,
don't just tinkle on it. Water heavily and deep. Get
the moisture down in there, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, don't just sprinkle, Its just a sprinkle.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
An inch of water per week. Okay, So put a
cup out there or something to catch the water, and
just see how much water you're actually applying. You'd be
surprised how little you're doing. Oh god, I don't believe
well anyway, Yeah, Also, a mulch is a good way
to prevent evaporative loss in the soil to a minimum

(08:50):
two inches of molt. When we do our landscape, we
do about a two inch later, and it does help
moderate the moisture loss. We find a bunch of trees
on the project out easter the town here, and you
check the molt around the trees. Even at this point
there's moisture down there. So what that does is it

(09:11):
actual as insulation between you evaporative loss and also temperature,
got it. And it helped conserve moisture too, so you
don't have the water your trees as much. If you're
going to plant a tree in the yard, get a
couple of bags of molts too, put on the surface
to moderate the peaks and valleys in the moisture level,

(09:34):
and the trees will do a whole lot better that way.
You look at trees in the forest, what do they
have on the floor of the forest nine inches or
so of leaf litter.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
And what that does is it moderates the fluctuations and
temperature and moisture content. So it's just a good idea
to do that, especially on newly planted trees and shrubs.
Don't forget the molt and don't don't cut corners on
the molts too.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, very good, very sound advice. Right.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Uh, fertilize your plants and your loung only when moisture
levels are good. In the soil. Fertilizer doesn't work. It's
just not. It just doesn't go into the soil. It
has to diffuse into the soil. Fertilizers basically are a
salt and yeah, salt and batteries whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
No, no, I mean you have to break down.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Just like salt does, melt and meltical thing and has
to go into the soil. And it penetrations soiled by diffusion.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
So if you remember your science class what diffusion is
and all that, that's that's kind of how it works,
how it gets into the soil. Yeah, so be prepared
when you do fertilize your lawn or eve shrubs and things,
or your plant beds. Be sure to make plants of
water it in. Okay, just ultraviolet light will degrade the fertilizer,
break it down before it has a chance to do

(10:53):
any good if you don't water it in.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
So not only do you want to you want to
water it first and you also apply fertilizer water afterwards. Again,
just so little diffuse into the soil and do some good.
Alternative would be a liquid fertilizer like miracle grow or something,
but I'm not a fertilizer in it is a lot
less than that which is in the granular fertilizer. So

(11:16):
on a dollar basis, it's very expensive compared to just
a fertilizer. So if you just follow these simple practices,
you can fertilize with that han't just been Get out
the hose and all this sudden stuff, put it on
the ground and go in the garage and push the button.
And also when you do water water early in the

(11:37):
morning or in the afternoon, just so you don't have
the evaporative loss an irrigation, you're not shooting hot water
exactly an irrigation system, per se. I noticed the we're
running on the way over, and they have a relatively
few number of heads on the circuit. And the water

(11:58):
pressure is in some parts of towns it's astronomical. I
know at my house it's about one hundred and ten
PSI put a regulator in the house. It's so high.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Man, that takes your skin off in the shower exactly.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
And you get a lot of a lot of loss
water loss from just the mist floating up in the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Make sure that we put that water to good use.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, so you might throttle down the water a little
bit just so you don't see you don't have all
that mist coming out too. So turn it on and
look at it and think, oh, this big cloud of
flog and talk talk of my plants.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
What do I do?

Speaker 5 (12:38):
And just just turn it down a little bit. You
can do that on the backflope of venter. You can
turn the turn the knob a little bit yeah, I
know that's my granddaughter over here.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
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on it, and they sink to the ground. They don't
they don't fly away. So you want to I should

(13:17):
leave my phone in the truck when I'm there, anyway,
And so you want to just so you don't waste
all that water.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Understood, Let's take a quick break. We're going to be
right back after this two minute timeout.

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Speaker 5 (15:54):
Hey, we talked a little bit about fertilizing and water
and all that. Yeah, and one thing is that pruning
your shrubs too.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
You gotta do that.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Some things you don't want to put it at this point. Uh.
This morning I went out looked at my dog would tree.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Don't want to do that?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
It's setting blooms already already for next year. Yes, So
be careful Tom if you cut those back.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Watch out for setting dog would.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
I'll put this under here. I don't care anyway, So
be sure to not to cut back your dog wood.
Also for cynthia as is also your spring bloomings, even
the fall bloomingons us are setting blooms right now, so
you want to refrain from cutting those back. Also, at
this point in time, any tree damage should be cut

(16:36):
out rather squarely. Don't leave ragged edges. I see a
lot of trees that got damaged in the storm, so
you have, and then you got these this broken bone
on the on the tree, so you need to get
out your your chainsaw or something and cut it square,
let a heel up properly. Otherwise, if you can.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Get a blob hanging out there like a bubble.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Wall, you get this raggedy edge. Yeah, cut that back too.
Time to do that, or you can. The trees really
aren't going to be growing a whole lot right now,
so they'll be doing doing it in the spring. So
if you do have some storm damage. We had some
storms this year, oh yeah, about two or three. We're
really gay and I've got some broken broken branches on
mine too, and I need to cut that back. I

(17:18):
will do that this winter. Cut them square. I've got
a maple tree that's getting kind of old and I
think it's going to die out.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So firewood Larry's.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Wish it was a hickory tree. Cook with it.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, you could good stuff there.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Anyway, when you do cut them, always cut at a node.
You're on your trees for your shrubs and all that.
A node is a point where the leaf comes out
of the stem and it's typically indicated by a ring
around the team itself, and that's where the growth is
going to occur and it encapsulate the wound. Be a
lot of healthier for the tree if you do have
to do some cut back on that, so good idea

(18:00):
to do it that way too.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
They're done.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
It's too early for moms, but get the grounds ready
for moms. The mom plants are up in red. This
is the last time you want to cut your mom's back.
They're going to be differentiating. Typically that happens when the
dog would start to leave out the dog, which we
start to bloom out rather. So it's that time of
year right now when the moms they're going to be
setting in their blossoms also, so it's the absolute latest

(18:25):
time to cut them. Back. The flowers on your moms
are rather heavy and they tend to get kind of floppy,
so you want to try to make them a little
shorter and cut them back a little bit. So this
is the absolute last time to do that. Also, good
time to divide those iris. I've got a bunch of
it my house. Need to put up a card table

(18:45):
and give them away, I guess, but they kind of
crowded themselves out, so I got to split them up
this year. Someday when it's not so blasted hot, maybe
tomorrow morning early I can go out dig up iris
and split them up a little bit. And it's time
for that. Also, I've seen also people have said they've

(19:06):
had army worms too in their in their lawn there
they're larva larval stage of a month, and the caterpillars
of the army mall army worm are almost hairless and
they have a series of green yellow brown stripes that
with the link that their bodies too. Army worms are

(19:27):
coming out just a little bit tea right now. So
all this stuff is just happening. So the tent caterpillars
are starting to show up on the country.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes they are.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
And bagworms are out too in full forest too, So
I've noticed them in the past. I really haven't seen
much of any problem with bagworms on tailor junipers, but
I see that this year.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's odd.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, really, so it's been. It's been, uh, and some
of them up up around the north of town over
there by the all the parts store though and Harbor
Freight and all that. They're something. They're all just about
about stripped out from bagworms.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
So, uh, how do we arrest the situation?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Well? BT works real well, okay, best philosgenesis. It's very
effective and it's very safety. You can take a shower
in it will hurt you. Well, at least you won't
have bagworms. I like old spice. Old spice better, okay,
But anyway, so BT works rather well. Captain Jack's Dead Bugs.

(20:34):
All that works pretty well too, is a Spinner's ad
put the hammer to it. Spiners ad works very well
to control them also, And amid culprit is another one.
The medical culprit stops the insects at the larval stage
and it is systemic as well, So you can use
that one and it'll help circumvent future damages to being

(20:58):
being yeah too, Yeah, being absorbed into the plant. It'll
help stop the caterpillars later on in time too. Goodness
allergy season. By the way, Yeah, army worms will also

(21:20):
eat some of your vegetables like beans and cabbage and
corns and peppers and so on, and a larger large
infestations can defoliate a lot in just a few days.
So by fienethne bt and em oil works pretty well
for the army worms. So look for those. And I
know there's some houses that have gotten them. I've gotten

(21:41):
some calls from some customers whatever in particular that he
gets it seems like every year, and he's learned how
to control them and it is very effective with it too. Okay, okay, lawns,
don't fertilize your fescue right now. The mower should be
set all way on high. You want to put some
duct table on the wheels to make them bigger, just

(22:03):
so the grass could be a little taller you want
you want. In other words, the grass has topecially, grass
should be really quite tall at this point. It makes
for better transferration. Transporation is the evaporative process that helped
keep the grass cool when it's really hot. If the
permeter is dried out, though, as mine is in my
front yard, it will recover. Look forward to discolored foliage

(22:25):
before watering. In other words, foliage that is curled inwards.
If at the end of the day when you come
home from work, and if you see if you kind
of look horizontally almost on your lawn, it's easy to
see regions where the leaves are curled and it's noticeably
darker than the other that's because the lea leaf is

(22:46):
curled in well, that's a physiological response to being overly dry.
It's a survival tactic on their part. It helps slow
down transferration. So if you see that, then they might
want to water that area in specific and also water
fairly deeply and infrequently. Shallow watering is the worst thing
you can do in your lawn because the root systems

(23:09):
don't have to go down to get to the soil.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You got to make them work. If you want to
make them straw, you got to.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Water infrequently, and water fairly heavily but infrequently. If you
have a situation where the soil is heavy or you
have a bit of a slope, you might want to
do two or three startups on the sprinking system. On
a on a given day, and keep in mind at
the point at which the water starts to run off too,
so turn it on, let it on for a while,

(23:35):
and as soon as you see water running away, keep
track of that time. And that's the maximum amount of
time and the cycle you can do before you start
wasting water. Got it, So then what you can do
is let it, let it sit for a few hours,
and then started doing a B program and let it
irrigate again in order to get enough of water down there.

(23:56):
But keep in mind the B program will involve less
time on that circuit because the saturation level is higher.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You gotta do your math.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
And then if you do a C programage listen to
B program and debro deep deep programage lessons incrementally less less.
What that'll do is you get the water down deeper
it needs to be. And then you don't have the
water for a few days. And because the water is
down into the soil, need better use of it rather

(24:27):
than flash and dash.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
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(26:29):
at one on K one, the One you Trust.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Welcome back to the Green Country Gardner program. Our telephone
line is open so you can speak to our expert
Larry Glass at one eight hundred seven four nine five
nine three six. We were talking about watering and doing
it correctly so as we don't waste water, and we
don't you know, we also make your plant, your your
root stronger.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Well, they go deeper in the ground.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Baby.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
If you if you kind of do a like a
sine wave of a dry to lit and dry to
lip the war you can make that flatten that out
is a lot better. In other words, apply enough water
to get down in there and then apply it again
where you don't have peaks and valleys wetness and dryingness.
Try to keep it fairly constant, and you save actually

(27:22):
save money that way.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
M yep, let's go to it. Hi, good morning. You're
on the air with Larry. Your question or comment, Oh hey,
uh yeah, I finally got you.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
I'd uh, I'd had a hard time copying down your
number there last couple of weeks, but I got you
this time.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Well, so I want to know where you're at or
I forget uh your exact business locale. I think you're
a little far from me up in Kansas, but I
might want to consult with you. But my question mainly
is uh, with the heat that we've been having, I
look at the temperature between my gravel and my grass,

(28:00):
and I'm thinking about my pole barn where I want
to have. What do I want to have? I like
having gravel for parking, but I've got lime disease before,
and I'm really worried about the ticks. So that's a
plus for gravel. But could you plant mint and some

(28:22):
of those other things there's a groundcover that the ticks
don't like.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
You could do that, Yes, it would help. But the
mint is a rather it used to be a rather
tall plant, so it might if you be creative with it.
And have it and maybe if even in pots around
the area it'll probably help too.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well, I would I would just want to be fast
and efficient, so I would want to mow it.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you'd want to probably want to mow
it maybe twice a year or something if you want
to cut it down because mint is a fairly tall plant.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, and it needs to be tall. You can't you
can't keep it.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
You can't, you can't keep it low. But if you
want to, you want to set your more real high
if you want to keep it under control.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Okay, love your show. Uh what's the difference between the
caterpillars and the bagworms by looking at them? And I'll
take that answer off the air.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh right, very good.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Caterpillars and bagworms. Well, they're both at the larvel stage
of an insect, both of them. So so really between
the two there at that point when you see them,
there is no difference because they they pew pate into maths,
so they're about the same and they had kind of
the same feeding habit too. They live off leaves and

(29:49):
plants and things. Okay, so the if you want to
control them, there's there are some organic methods you can
use on that too.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
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Speaker 5 (30:11):
The week this week is a bald cypress otherwise known
as Textilium disticum.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well there you go.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
You can get to one hundred feet tall seventy feet wide.
Is kind of a wrap, rapid growing bottomland tree, and
it makes a pretty nice specimen plant. There are some
good ones here in town, and they seem to have
survived our weather quite well, our winds and rains and
all that, even the ice. Apparently that primarily because they
have a strong central leader on them and the branches

(30:39):
are opposed from that leader or is not more perpendicular,
so you have a good link or connection between the
branch and the main trunk itself. So structurally is pretty
sound as far as the tree is concerned. Down down
part of the bald cypress is uh, well, knees, yeah,

(31:00):
for sneeze and shallow roots. Now, you can avoid some
of the shallow roots by not watering it too much
and making the tree go down deep for its water.
If you water it a whole lot and stays in
a wet condition. It's a kind of genetically predisposed to
have knees it come up. Yeah, at my house, I

(31:22):
had a weeping bolt cyper. It's really kind of an
interesting tree. It's rather irregularly growing and to have roots
in it, you know, twenty feet away in the backyard.
But they're not that bad because I don't water a
whole lot. So the wrists have gone down fairly deep.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Which is good. It keeps them from tearing up your
lawn more exactly.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
So, if you do want to, and there are some
really nice, nice ones here in town, keep it away
from sidewalks because it will buckle a sidewalk real bad,
just like that and your drive away and all that.
It's not the kind of tree you really want close
to the house. You really don't want to close the
concrete or something ten feet maybe twenty twenty feet or so,

(32:02):
twenty feet away yea, yeah, because it will cause some
upheaval of this stuff, and if you do have a
lot of clay and soil, it will develop very shallow
root system, so it can be kind of obnoxious as
far as that's concerned. Well, all the knees and all
the bumps, and you add dirt, and you add dirt

(32:24):
and you ADDRT and the next the next thing, you know,
your drainage pattern or somewhere and so on. So you
just have to be careful where this particular tree is planted.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Got it.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
So it's a good one to have here because it's
resistant to diseases and insects and so on. If you
want a tree that's going to really do well here,
that has no problems, the ginkle tree is one.

Speaker 11 (32:44):
Well.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Goodness sakes, hang on a second.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Here, but the main drawback of the inkle tree is
a rather slow growth rate.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, so we got a color, yeah, I think so.
Good morning and welcome to the Green Country Gardener programming.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Your question for Larry, Yes, I notice that I have
fire blight on my ornamental pear trees.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Is there any way to treat that?

Speaker 11 (33:09):
Not?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Really?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Or once you got it, you got it, so it's
kind of tough to get rid of it. Sent on
a brad repair or a fruiting pair?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Was that on a Bradford pair or fruiting pair?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Bradford pair, yeah, Bradford pair. Yeah. I think what happened
is a few years back, we had a rather extreme
cold snap and kind of weakened them a little bit.
Typically the Bradford pair has been resistant to the fire blight,
but it got to the point where they got weakened

(33:47):
and there became susceptible to it. There are some in
town that don't have it too, so I would say
it's just kind of luck of the draw on that.
But typically there's not much of a problem with him
unless a been under some kind of stress. And also
age has a factor in that. Also they're getting really
old too.

Speaker 9 (34:06):
Well.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
These trees are about twenty years old, so that may
be part of the problem. Yeah, yeah, Brad. When Bradford
pairs came out, probably they were they were the best
thing going. We couldn't keep them in stock. And then
then we had that uh what was it three hundred
degrees below the heero or something.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
We got really cold.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
And it it kind of ruined them really so and
now we've had problems with them ever since.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, thank you very much for your call. Appreciated
as always, and you can be our next caller. At
one eight.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Three plants had their limitations.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
We only leave live in extreme weather here at Oklahoma
and we have.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
So much damage on the plant. Yeah, and I don't
think it's necessarily from the colvid of from the sun
shining on the cold and expanding the moisture in there
causing some issues. Also give it a little two per
thing confusing the daylights out and well that but it
makes it weaker, and this vascular tissue gets damaged in there,

(35:17):
and it causes issues of susceptibility. And also if you
look on that, then most of the damage started on
the south of the southwest side of the tree where
the sun was shining on it in the midst of
a real cold spell.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
All right, let's take that quick break. We'll be back
after this two minute time out.

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Speaker 2 (37:30):
Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. I'm Tom Davis.
He's Larry Glass. Larry Glass is our guru today in
the garden. And of course that you can give him
a call at one eight hundred and seven four five
nine three six. That's our toll free number.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Another trade that we're going to talk about today is Riverburg.
What it's the old telephone? Cool?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
All right, let's go to the phone real quick and
we'll get back to that other tree. Hi. Welcome you
are on the Green Country Gardener Program. And your question
for Larry.

Speaker 11 (38:09):
Yes, my daughter in law was wanting to know what
is the best time to uh cut back your roses?

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Okay, I like to cut the roses back in the
spring and and early early early in the fall or
late late late in the summer because they flush their
growth in the fall, so they might look a little
raggedy right now. So you could cut them back pretty
soon and they'll flush out again in the fall when
it cools a little bit or very very early in

(38:37):
the spring. Either one. It depends on, Okay, your on
the status of the plant and how it looks and
all that.

Speaker 11 (38:45):
Oh it's big and bushy.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yeah, when you when you look at your rose, you
cut out all the branches that are really old and
kind of crushy looking on the outside. Cut all them
out and cut cut it back, and always when you
cut it, I mean you can go in and you
can just cut it back the way you want it,
but do a follow up cutting and cut the stem
at a node so that will heal over and not

(39:07):
invite the bacteria and fungus to go in there and
cause problems. So a node is a point where a
leaf is on the stem and that heals up quicker
that way. Okay, So yeah, have fun cut off, just
whack up back the way you want, but be sure
you follow up with a more refined cutting afterwards. Or

(39:27):
you can cut it in a refined method to begin with,
and always cut it at a node.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (39:36):
And that's that is at the leaf and that's.

Speaker 12 (39:40):
Just above the leaf stand.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Yeah, just about There'll be a ring around the stem,
and typically there'll be a leaf and the will also
be a tiny little butter over there at that point,
and what will happen is is it'll assume the growth
at that point. So you do want to cut it.
Always cut them at a node like that, and also
you might want to you might want to open up
the center of it as well too. They they tend

(40:03):
to do better if the middle is kind of it's
sort of cut out, so it's not so crowded in
the middle, it's kind of spar Yeah, in the center
of you can have stuff it kind of vay shaped
with that'll do is a little branch inwards a little
bit more and you get some fresh growth on the inside,
more flowers that way. Okay, all right, thank you, all right,

(40:27):
thanks for calling.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
All right, there you go that easy and you can
be our next scholar too.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah. We talked about earlier about cutting back the roads,
so it's a little bit almost kind of kind of
time to do that.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You can do it.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
They're really not going to be growing right now. Mine
aren't growing at all. I cut them back last weekend.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Just give them a haircut.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
They're doing just fine, very good. So Anyway, we talked
a little bit about the river birch. What people really
are like about the river birch is the trunking on
it and the bark on the trunk. Very somewhat architectural,
if you will. So it makes a very attractive specimen
plant because of that feature. However, you want to give

(41:09):
this plant plenty of room to grow because it will get.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I got it good. One stinking fly in the whole plant. Yeah,
been dive bombing us out the whole show.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
But the river brooks. Eventually we're growing to a great,
big plant. So keep that in mind when you're picking
one out for that specimen interest. It is somewhat architectural,
but you don't want to have it architecturally close to
the house, and also in drainage patterns too, because it
can raise a soil level and call some issues with

(41:47):
water drainage. You got a color, sure do.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Good morning, Welcome to the Green Country Gardener Program. You're
on the air with Larry. Your question or.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Comment, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (41:57):
I was wondering any rich grow under a foundation on
your house. My foundation is like three foot deep, and
I was wondering, I've got some trees that are maybe
ten or fifteen feet away from the house and they're
maybe thirty foot talk, and those three rits grow under
that foundation on the house.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
What what species the tree?

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Oh, they're kind of a maple tree or.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
So probably silver maples, probably, yeah, probably, Yeah, a silver
maple can cause issues at that distance, can cause some issues. However,
three feet deep is pretty deep, and at that point
typically or so here someone anaerobic. And the silver maple
is a surface rooting tree. So really it's going to
do more damage to your patio or your driveway than

(42:49):
it really would probably to a foundation that's three feet deep.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Well, it's it's a it's a I don't know for sure,
but its silver maple. But anyway, the reason I ask
is because a couple of years ago I had the
plumber out working on my toilet and when he took
the toilet off, there was root hair that had grown
into the right there in the toilet, and.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Then the talk about an invasion of privacy. My goodness, Yeah,
it sounds to me like you do have a several maple.
You can identify it fairly easily by looking at the
bark on it, and it sort of peels off in
vertical stripes vertical peeling peels off vertically like that. And

(43:39):
also the leaf has a very deep sinus on it.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
But what can you do? Can he? Can you kind
of get part of that root, you know, imputated?

Speaker 5 (43:49):
It wouldn't hurt the plant really because at all that
it wouldn't hurt. But it has roots more probably more
going outwards really where there's more water away from the house.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Well it sounds water found his toilet.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Yeah, but yeah, that sounds to me like you do
have a silver maple. And they are they're kind of
a pist but they grow quickly. That's why people like them.
They're fast growing and so on, and they plant them
too close to the house and then you have these problems.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
All right, Well, good luck with that.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
I might just have to cut the tree down.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Yeah, Or you can just get a trencher, you know,
like you like what you put in sprinter systems with,
and just cut a trench between it and your pipe
and they'll give you some time before but it will
eventually just go right back to it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Boy. Yeah, well, good luck with that. Wow We all
right there. You appreciate your call. Uh boy, we're gonna
have to take that's an interesting problem for him.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
River Birch is another one that causes problems like that.
Do so, yeah, we keep him away from the house.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Okay, all right, we are going to be back after this.
It looks like a four minute time out.

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Speaker 15 (45:35):
The original Waldorf Astoria Hotel on Fifth Avenue in New
York City was built in eighteen ninety three. Constructed in
the German Renaissance style, the hotel had four hundred and
fifty guest rooms and another one hundred rooms for staff
and servants. After merging with their next door neighbor, the
Astoria Hotel, in eighteen ninety seven, the hotel had one

(45:55):
thousand three hundred rooms, making it the largest hotel in
the world at the time. The Empire Room at the
hotel was the largest and most lavishly decorated room in
the Waldorf and quickly became one of the finest restaurants
in New York City. From the beginning, the Waldorf was
the must stay place for foreign dignitaries from around the world.

(46:16):
Some of those guests were the leaders of China, the
Princess Iam, the Grand Duchess of Russia, and many others.
Andrew Carnegie was a regular guest at the hotel, and
the Waldorf Astoria Bar became a favorite haunt from many
of the financial elites such as Diamond, Jim Brady, Buffalo,
Bill Cody, and Bat Masterson. In short, anyone who was

(46:38):
anyone in the world of politics, society, business or entertainment
wanted to be seen at the Waldorf. It truly was
the world's hotel. Following the tragic sinking of the Titanic,
the Waldorf Hotel was the official site for the inquiry
that was performed by the United States Senate into the disaster.
With this backdrop, our very own Frank Phillips was a

(47:01):
major player at the Waldorf In nineteen twenty nine, a
private corporation was formed by Uncle Frank and he became
part owner.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Of the Waldorf.

Speaker 15 (47:10):
Later that year, they sold the buildings and the land
to a corporation named Empire State, Inc. Their plan was
to demolish the hotel, which they did and build the
Empire State Building in that location in July of nineteen
twenty nine. Prior to the demolition, Frank Phillips inspected the
hotel and paid particular attention to four handsome chandeliers which

(47:32):
hung in the tap room of the hotel. When the
hotel was gutted in preparation for the demolition, Frank was
given those ornate lights. He promptly shipped them to Oklahoma
and had them hung in the great living room of
the Woolarock Lodge, where they illuminated family gatherings, business meetings,
cocktail parties, poker games, and many other social events. Whenever

(47:53):
asked by guests about the lights, Frank liked a joke
and say they were all that he got out of
his investment, calling them his million dollars chandeliers and declaring
them the most expensive in the country. The magic of
New York City and the Waldorf Astoria from eighteen ninety
three is still part of the lodge today and the
wonderful history of Wallarock. That same magic still exists. Welcome

(48:19):
home to Wallarock.

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Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh my, we only have a few scant minutes left
here on the Green Country Gardener program with Larry Glass
and Larry my goodness sake, so we've covered a lot
of ground. But then again it's ground that we cover
because we talk about the lawn and the garden, which exactly.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Probably one of the most important things to do when
you do your gardening or your landscaping is a ground
prep and that's something we emphasize a lot and I
have in the last three hundred years of doing this landscape.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Tell us about that that dirt prep that you did
in O s h County.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Oh good golly, yeah, ground it's so hard. We had
to Well, we put a temporary sprinter system in.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Is that bad? Huh?

Speaker 5 (49:57):
And it ran one day, then it rained, it was
all better, So we took it up and then we
did a ground prep this weekend this week rather so
ground prep is most important thing because there's so many
variables in the soil type, the soil conditions and somewhat
and also account for the drainage and what kind of
plants you're putting into. Also has a big factory how

(50:18):
you prepare the soil. There's just no really universal thing
you can do. I mean, you try real hard. Yeah,
we'll sell you some composts and all that, but what
are you planting? Well, I'm planning hydrangees. In his elias,
I said, well, you need a lot of need to
lower that pH a little bit, so you need maybe
a lot more peed moths rather than composts.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Can we get our soil tested anywhere?

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Since an agent will do that for you. Put it
in a jar or something, or don't touch it though.
When you do it, take a good clean shovel and
take several samples from different areas of the part if
you want to do your law, not just one, but
take it from different parts of the yard to get
a come and a ridge and then send it up there.
We did some work for Phillips downtown a while back

(51:06):
and they insisted on a soil test, which is a
good and good practice. We're a good thing, and then
we were able to adjust the soil and the plants
didn't very well. So you want to kind of know
where you're going before you do some landscape work and
so on. Typically, our soil here as a sort of
a neutral pH pH isn't too much of a problem
unless you're putting in plants that require acid soil.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
So consult Larry. He'll tell you which one's.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Come by the nursery and we can talk about it maybe,
or somebody that's the nursery, can talk about Gary or myself.
We can give you some tips on that and so
you can have some spful successful landscape. Green Time is
on the south side of No Water Road, halfway between
No Water Road and Washington Boulevard. And come on out
and say hello and keep your shovel sharp. Tom gole Ye,

(51:52):
it's time. We will see you next week.

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