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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, Bob, it is time now for the Green Country
Gardener Program. And again our total free number is one
eight hundred and seven nine five dying three six. That'll
get you in touch with Larry Glass, our expert. I'm Tom.
I just answered the phones and you know, kind of
go along with things.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So Larry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Interesting work week. We've had some warm temperature, some cool temperature.
Now we've got some wet conditions. Just it's been very,
very very northeast Oklahoma, southeast Kansas singer lately.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Perhaps after this weekend and this upcoming week, it's going
to rain every day. It looks like it perhaps my
shovel won't bounce off the ground or break break.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You you how many shovels I've broken in my career.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I looked at the get US Book of World Records
and the country just kept going round.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Round and round.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Anyway, fallows in the air, and the heat is on
a little bit. Looks like it's gonna be a good
reasonable weather this week. And actually the ground will be
easy to work too. It's a little bit of moisture
in it, and light of that, we have fall moms
that are in color just about to burst.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Be careful when you get your moms.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's so early for them to be blooming out, so
don't get flickered in by buying some that already in bloom,
because when the time is primed, they're done.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The booms will be gone.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So now you've been having people just running in and
out with by the palette of moms.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, we're yeah, we've we're doing very well with mum
cells this year.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
People rarely want.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Some good color out in the yard, and it's a
good way to have some instant color if you will.
So yeah, so pansies are are out right now too.
We're gonna plant somebody's whole front yard full of pansies
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We'll get out there with our waiters.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And little little blow up boats gonna go with float
to the frame.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Anyway, so there's.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Tube and the front yard. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it would be the first time planted flowers in
the rain, the last probably not anyway, So it's time
to get those pancies in the ground. If you don't
have your ground ready though, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Really need to do that first.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Before you do that, And on this particular instance, we're
going to bring out some composts brake off all the
all the old molds and everything else, and prepare the
soil with some good composts. This is the customer will
be fired for like twenty years and about.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Every three years or so.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
We we do that, we for to far the soil,
if you will, with the compost. And the plants really
like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh yeah, it's like fresh food.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So yeah, ym.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Old these pansy flowers big around us grapefruits, you know,
but not really. But anyway, so you do want pansies.
Don't lack a heavy soil.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
They don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They will absolutely absolutely they will exactly, they will absolutely
fail in the clay. So you want to if you
want to have some pantches in your front yard. But
you know, they give you flowers in the fall, then
throughout the winter and springs sometimes all the way to June.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So it's pretty good. Uh, you know, bargain.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So I would go ahead and go ahead and put
some in them, might even plant them in my house.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's thinking about it, folks, he's got that old hands.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I get these a scornful looks from my neighbors. Well, here,
the landscape man, why do you have craggrass?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know? What are your flowers your yard?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's right, buddy, No anyway, Also, the firing tale is
out to now. I like to use that in little
color accidents here and there in the landscape save by
the front door or somewhere maybe in the center of
the bed or something, just to break up, you know,
the monotony of some other things too. And these uh
(03:57):
plants do really quite well here in the cool in
the cool climb.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They don't like the heat, but they do quite well
all winter long.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And right now there's sort of green colors, kind of
a blueish green color. But as it gets colder, the
chlorophyll and their different differentiates and it creates a different color.
So it could be a red color, or white color,
or pink color in some parts of the chlorophyll. So
it should be tagged on there this is the pink one.
(04:26):
This is the red with someone but anyway, who cares
it pretty anyway? Yeah, So anyway, so the kale and
the cabbage did quite well, and they're fairly largely.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Some big ones are.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Size of a basketball, yeah almost, and they're starting to
exhibit a little bit of color too.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So anyway, so.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It falls in the air time for that Also people
are thinking about their lawns too, especially those with fiscue.
So with the unslaught of this moisture, you might be
able to break the ground a little bit. You don't
really want to put seed on top of hard ground
because those roots just have to go down into the
(05:04):
ground and if you have to stand and jump on
the shovel to get the ground broken, whether they're really
not going to do very well. And typically our soil
here is laying in horizontal layers and we need to
kind of break that up a little bit, so kind
of mix it in and if it gets hard, you know,
(05:25):
packed like that over and over again, you may sip
adding some gypsum, adding some gypsum to the soil and
perhaps some composts too, just so it'll be somewhat more aerobic,
so the roots will go down, so the roots won't
really grow in an anaerobic situation. So if you can
drive a seven forty seven over your front yard and
not put a ding in the in the soil, you
(05:48):
might want.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To consider doing some soil prep.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, so you don't waste your time, you don't waste
your money.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So, yeah, it does get that bad. Fertilize year lag.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
This is the time on your bermuda grass to put
down say some ten twenty ten. The phosphorus helps fortify
the stolens, it's solfs growth.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It helps the system survive too.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If we have a really really cold snap in the
absence of snow on the surface, it can cost some
die back issues on the bermuda graphs here and there.
You don't want to use a lot of nitrogen right
now because we get a dollar spot when that happens,
which is a fungus disease that happens in the spring,
typically created by a superfluous amount of nitrogen in the soil.
(06:34):
So you use a fairly little nitrogen fertilizer at this
point to help build up the stolons in the bermuda
grass and as soyso grass kind of the same thing.
You don't want a lot of tender growth on it
going into the cold, so just an even ratio of
ten twenty ten or something like that fertilizer would help
(06:56):
its establishment and survivability into the winter. So boy like
going on the garden right now. Yeah, good time to
plant trees too.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It always is a good time to plant tree.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So anyway, and in plantic tree we we've discussed some
rules behind that and they're perfectly logical. Uh, be aware
of your drainage patterns in the yard and when the
tree grows, the root mass of the as it grows
has to go somewhere. Typically it goes up, and what
(07:33):
that does is create a blockage.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of water coming around the house.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So you get you have to open the garage door
in the back of the front to get the water
out of the backyard.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Seen that, I.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Bet you have, But there's you have.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we just opened the back door in the garage
door and the water runs through the garage clean. It
cleans the garage at least, So you want to make
sure to make sure to plant a tree that that
won't cause the drainage in the backyard to go through
the house.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Okay, So it just makes makes good sense.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You want to preserve those drainage patterns and and why
they This is pretty common up the Circle Mountain too.
The slope was absolutely towards there's no cross slope. It
goes towards the house. And I see actually people along
there with sandbags. But you have to regrade the ground
to let the water go around. If you put sandbags in,
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it makes ground even higher, and it even makes the
situation worse. And there there's the magic number behind creating
a drainage flail is two percent slope will have enough
velocity in the water flow to carry de breathe out.
(08:52):
If you go less than that, the water runs slowly
and set of it that tends to gather and build
up flocks, the h blockage black. So you want to
try to maintain that that certain degree of slope so
that at that point the water acts as a carrier
for the debris leaftery and the soiled breeding be carried away.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You color ye, Good morning, Kevin, you're on the air.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Hey Larry, Hey, you're great.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You are.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Don't find Kevin? What's up with you today?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Man?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Another rain?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, ain't that great?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You can turn off it was getting, it was getting.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You could turn off your sprinkler system.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well I had, I had turned it on the other
day because.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I know, you see these big cracks on the ground
and you look down there you see you know lava.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
I know it's the lavat I've got, I've got. I
think it is an.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Overgrown Mucho pond. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right,
I think I will pull it out. Okay, my time
a tractor on it and pull it out.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Maybe today's today.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It'll come out like a lose too today if it
rains all day, I know so, But.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I want to put in there, like if I put
in two or three you know, like.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Pencil hollies.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, they'll grow upright. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The skypencil holly is a Japanese holly. What it's a
Japanese variety. Skypencil Holli is a variety of Japanese holley.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
They they grow real straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Straight up.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And when you do plant that, you might want to
check your soil pH because they do like a low pH.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Or you're going to put some salts in there.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Some salts are I actually actually for holly, you might
consider iron sulfate.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Just dump a whole bunch down in there.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well no, no, no, no, they don't want to burn it.
But depending on really the PhD the soil is how
you do want to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Really, but really.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I just put iron sulfate on my hollies every year
and they do just great.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The box with beautiful dark green color.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So yeah, uh, magnesium sultate them yeah, I just sprinkled
around them a little bit and do it on an
annual basis because it does that. The pH does change
over time as it was is through. So you want
to use a Holi type fertilizer and a ze type
fertilizer on your holleags like that, and then.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They should do. Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's the biggest problem with people's holly. Turn count our
high pH.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Soil, and the bugs and stuff don't get the stupid.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Uh not so much really as they would say a
yop on holly or something. There's a little inch worm
that will text the yop on holly. That's about it
on that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But uh, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Don't see very many mites on a Japanese holly anything
like that. No back, Yeah, but the big problem with
them is our soil type here, otherwise I plant them
all over the place.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But golly, let me tell you, I can get that
tractor and ty chain on that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, yeah, that's your your thirty six cylinder tractor. I'll
be listening. I'll be listening for it. Look for the
black smoke in the rising.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
It's a regular tractor with a bucket on the front.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I know.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I just told you that I know, and you know
hills kicking a good john the year, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, calculated things.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, but yeah, something like a Japanese holly like that.
It's it's not you don't see very many holly is
growing wild here, with the exception of deciduous holly, which
is endemic to the areas. It's indigenous, I guess to
the area, and it does does quite well here in
our variable soil.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
pH highly variable. It's adapted.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay, So but that's about the only holly species that's
that's a resident in this area.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
A good example of that is along the Hillcrest country
Club along Silver Lake Road, they have deciduous holly and
maiden drafts and pretty well for this sunshine the gustroom
and you know some of the plants that Bernie bush
that does stuff throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's a good example of what we'll grow here
in our soil, if you will.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right
back after this two minute timeout.
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
We're back with the Great Country Gardener programmed and it
is eight twenty five sixty six degrees a little bit
of rain. Larry was just telling me that there are
some berries that the birds partake of around February where
they get a little.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, like February, the deciduous holiday varies on them. If
they stay on the very long the starch is inside,
the very converts to sugars and if it stays on
any lovon net, the sugars ferment.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So if you wonder why are the birds keep flying
into your windows taking I was in the with a.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Long long time ago in my in my early twenties,
I was with a property management company down in Tulsa, Okay,
and we had some deciduous hollies.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Nobody knew what it was and what does that six
decid But yeah, there's a deciduous holl and the robins
would attack them. It was in the parking lot. So
I guess the sugar, the sugar is coming in for
the sugar or they come in. They turned into.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alcoholretty quickly, and they were running into the buildings, just
flying in all these weird patterns.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And what is wrong with these birds?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I said, your deciduous hollies are probably having some fermentation issues,
so they're flying drunk. I guess that was really weird
to see them and they get on the ground.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's kind of up.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Kind of on a Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yes, that was a pretty wild experience. So that's the
only that's the only reason I can that's the only
way I can come up with the reason for that
is the starch converting the sugars and converting to alcohol.
But anyway, it's time to divide your iris in the
yard at this point too. I did that to mind
(18:23):
last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I need to move my.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Japanese puny from where it is to a different place
because the conciduous holly is encroaching upon its territory and
it didn't bloom last year. So that's that's not good
at all. So so I cleared out an area, took
out some of the twice blooming irish. I haven't divided
them in case I'm away to nursery too, so I
(18:50):
think there's still a few of them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The crateon and it's a picture of the color of
the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
They take one and you enjoy it and share it whatever,
and so so that's going to happen maybe this week weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe do that working on
the truck. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yes, it's raining, Larry, so you can work on your truck.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yet is outside? So what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Birds getting drunk?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No dividing your pennials.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Also, peonies can be divided at this point too. So
I have some clutters of peonies that are not quite
knee high. They're real small plants, but they have all
these red flowers. Really in the spring, they're really quite showy.
So I think you're going to divide those out a
little bit. They're getting a little crowded, so nothing worse
than crowded peonies. They just every time I won't go
(19:48):
by with them over, they just yell at me and
say yelp me. But anyway, so now it's the time
here to do that. The mums are setting their buzz
right now, so make sure they don't dry out. Avoid
heavy cutting of trees and shrubs. New growth can be
killed off in the winter cold. So in other words,
if you cut something back like a tree, it could
(20:09):
still maybe have a branch grow out. It'll be somewhat
tender going into the winter. So still a little bit
early to do some pruenium trees. I wait a little
bit longer till they until they start changing colors. At
the nursery. They have new shrubs and trees and annuals.
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Despite all the heat we've had a little bit. The
moons are here. The mums are here, of course, a
little early to show some blooms. We try not to
force them into coloring in an artificial time. Pansies, got
those the tail and cabbage available right now too, So
there's kind of a lot going on in the garden.
We're kind of sort of in a transition period between
(20:51):
the drought and the hard pans soil and some pretty
good soil with some rain and some good planting weather
for trees and shrubs, pansies and flowering cabbage and a
grass seed too, with the very chill end of establishing
fescue grass in the yard too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So you need to get away.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Along if you want to plant some of that home
because it's I'm going to get a little bit too
late for it to really grow and prosper before the
real cold hits. So it's just primetime right now. So
for establishing in a fescue, get some grass man right.
So a tall fescue does pretty well around here. There's
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about any variety that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Round here, So you do that.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It doesn't grow in heavy cray and heavy clay rather,
and it will not tolerate too much water on a
consistent basis. So when you do it, put the seed down,
you water it and let it get a little bit
on the dry side and actually when you do the seed,
you just don't want to dump it on the ground.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You want to rake the soil up.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
At least loosen up the surface so the seed will
get integrated into the soil somewhat.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Have you just put it on top of a hard pan.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, the bird you're just going to eat it, So
you want to loosen up the soil a little bit,
either with a rake or a little mini tiller or something,
and then put it on and kind of rake it
into the ground a little bit too. And sometimes you
can put some peat moss on the surface or some
straw to help the keep the soil from drying out
(22:23):
between watering so much.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Then you'll have some pretty good luck.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I remember as a kid up in Chicago, we had
a fescue on and we bought a big old bill
hey and some grass seed, and it made it really nice.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Of course, anything grows up there so good. Up there.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
When you turn it over, it's just black. I know,
it's so rich because it used to be lake bottom,
you know. Yeah, it's wonderful soil up there. Then you
come down here you break I don't know how many
shells I've broken over there. Okay, Okay, on that note.
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Speaker 1 (25:11):
Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. Our boat
line is open at one eight hundred seven four nine
five dying three six. He's ltry Glass, he's our expert.
And what do we have next on the agenda?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh, we talked a little bit about Bernie Bush earlier,
Yeah we did. Anyway, J want to miss latter or
Bernie Bush is really noted for its excellent and brilliant
fall color.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It is distinguished by its clear red fall fulage small
red orange fruit. Well for they call it it's technically
it's a fruit. Okay, I call it a berry, but
technically it's a fruit okay. And wings on the stem.
Now back in college, we call it winged. You wannamus
a winged? You want to wingedamous?
Speaker 13 (25:56):
Will?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes? Will?
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Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, when you want of us.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Which flare out typically flare.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Out along its branches and you know, stemps and so on,
and it's used I use a lot in mass plantings
as a shrub border, as an accent plant, or as
a hedge. He's a pretty versatile plant, so you can
kind of do anything you want with it, really, as
far as they make almost a substitute for say a
Japanese maple, but you have to prune it up in
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order in order it won't do it on its own.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You have to you have to work not to get
it like that.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So I have some examples in my backyard where there
they look like little Japanese maples, so and they're just
tough as convening up. One problem we have here is
in when the heat starts to hit in summer is
a mites and they cause a stippling of the leaf.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Stippling that's where you have these little yellow dots from
the leaves. That's where the mites going. And I guess
I can.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Say that anyway, and it causes a little bit of discoloration,
but they still exhibit some good fall color when the
time comes. So that's the only really pest I've seen
on the Bernie bush is a mites and occasionally they
do get a stem stem rot to stem disease two
and give too much water or something, or even if
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it gets way too dry to do the same thing.
But I ask them growing in along the fens side,
they've never watered all summer long.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
They're doing fine. I think it's because of my neighbor waters.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Anyway, this plant can be kept down even a knee
high if you want, or it can grow into a small,
almost a Japanese maple sized plant over time. There's some
really good examples in Woodland Park in the shade the
planet of these, and they look like kind of Japanese
maple lesque, I guess, kind of a multi trunk plant,
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but different layers on it. You don't get the good
fall color though.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
In the shade.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's got phenomenon that happens in the sun. So but
be that doesn't miss out on them. You know, two
weeks of pretty color.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's not catching fires in the shade.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
In the shade exactly. They don't require a whole lot
of fertilizer. They didn't require a whole lot of care.
You can prove them shape any way you want, into
boxes or spheres or vase shaping, do anything with them
because they're a member of the you want of us family.
You've heard of Manhattan umanamous, which is an evergreen type
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of uanimous, and they do. They did pretty well here too.
So Bernie Bushy go when to have annual the week
of course is pansy. I'm going to talk about that.
The pansy is related to violas. No, not the stringed instrument,
the group of plants from which Johnny jump up are related.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Viola is a large, really.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Broad based genius, consisting of five hundred different species. Viola's
are films familiar to people in Greece in the fourth
century BC. They've been around a While's some pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Old plants, and.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The censor origin for for violas was in continental Europe.
They're very hearty but somewhat delicate. Viola's were actually planted
by the green way back when they's been a while.
These plants are pretty old, been around a while. So anyway,
sometime after the fourth century the somebody observed them and
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they started hybridizing them villas. Now we have big, big
flowered pansies right now at this point in time. So
you blame the French for that good job.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Anyway, So it so here in Oklahoma though they like
a cooler weather, they really don't tolerate.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're real hot weather.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And golly, we're selling them god by the armloads at
the nursery right now. But anyway, they were cultivated in
Europe by of course many gardeners and then the hybridizing
and then now we have these big flowers on them,
so really quite nice. So it's it's a fall thing
and they blow them throughout the winter and let's think
it's really really cold. They put on a show even
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actually we've had a good hard frost. So when you
do your annual beds and all that, you might want
to have some gaps and spaces in your annuals to
the plants, some pagings.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
In the fall.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
See you have some color all year round. You can
eat a layered in the front as a border for
the fall, or just intermixed with some other annuals. And
when then when they freeze out, these these will start
to take over. So you can be a strategic on
the pimping on the time I mean of it. So
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that's kind of it with pansies. The root system on
It is very delicate and they do require a significant
amount of soil preparation when planting them, so you might
want to be prepared for that too. You just really
can't plant them in heavy soil.
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Welcome back to the Green Country Gardner program It's eight
forty two sixty five. Rain is starting to kind of
clear out in the oce Age and up there around
dan into the Bartlesville area, you know, Coffeeville. You'll be
getting a little bit clearer here in a little bit
as well, know wa in South Coffeeville. But it looks
like we'll have a pretty good day before the next
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Speaker 3 (34:06):
Week is Diospyrus virginiana, but who yeah really? Diospyrus virginiana
otherwise known as percimmon. It's a small and medium sized
tree about eighteen meters or sixty feet tall, about twenty
feet diameter so or twenty inches at the bark is
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dark brown to black, and it's very thick bark fissured, fissured,
meaning you've got the separations in it is a highly
fissured textured bark. What kind I say is a good
parallel to that, something very rough textured, like you're you're
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lawmore tire. Yeah, that's kind of like it, and with
small it's characterized my small squarish block on it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So if you see a tree out there that's got.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
The very dark, dark bark on it and it has
a very heavily fissured bark, they are configured in squares
and it looks like your tractor tire on your lawn.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Mower's that's chances are that's the permon tree.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Per see.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
The twigs are thin and kind of exactly a little
bit brownish or gray, and butter are small pointed with
two brown shining scales, really no terminal bud, and the
leaves are alternate and oval to elliptic uh and entire.
In other words, they have no serrations on them. And
actually they're kind of glossy too. So per Simons are
actually dioecious, so uh not everyone has fruit on them,
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just just the female, just.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
The female Hey, we got a call. Good morning, Welcome
to the Green Country Gardener Program. Your question for Larry, Yes, Larry.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
I've got two apple trees and they have spouts come
up all around the bottom of them.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
What can I do to stop that?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm pulling them off and cut.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Them off and done everything in the world I can't stop.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Well, that's uh, it's coming up from the rootstock, and
that's just a typical.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
So okay, you just have to stop it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, you don't want to overdo it.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Cut them off?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, I just keep copping cutting them off. I get
that on the plum trees too, that I just cut
them off. But if you try to, if you get
real close to the stem, you can you can disrupt
the connective tissue between the two. So it's a rootstock
coming up from the from so that I just got
to live with it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh yeah, about twice a year, maybe getting a bit.
So it should be just.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
That.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's problem, man. It's to be expected. The fruit trees
for the most part of grafted. And that's that's a
subgraph coming up.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I think I can recall appreciate it, and you can
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Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I get those on my plumps and I just
just cut them off and they come back about a
month later. Andre you are, but really you don't really
want to go down deep and try to eliminade it.
Down deep, you can introduce all kinds of bugs and fungus.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
In your You can do more harm than good as
what you.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Cut them off. The best thing you can do.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They do that, I guess when they get older too,
so maybe it's just time to you know, get online
and go to start brothers and get some new ones.
So anyway, h the per seven is a native tree
over here, and uh, they get They're not a huge
tree by means, and they tend to grow in a colony.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
In other words, the riots will spread out and they
come up here and there.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
They got a volunteer right out of the grade, right.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And sometimes you get a male, sometimes you get a female.
So if you dig one out out in the forest, yeah,
there's a little persimetry you dig it up, well, it
probably there's a chance that it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Won't do anything. You're not preiming, no, because you're a male.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's why sit around the yard do nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Noah, So anyway, everybody knows about the fruits. They're not
any good until we have a good treeze. So if
you come across the permon withims on it, they're going
to be kind of a bitter at this point and
very h hard if you will. And actually we've had
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a good freeze, they're suitable to you. Well, that's kind
of what's a native tree for the day, So that
they're they're pretty cool. They're very hardy plants to kind
of like a Kentucky coffee tree. The Degenma planets Diusia. Yeah,
it's a legume actually, and there are some growing around town.
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And it's unique amongst the tree species, and that it
is by pinnately com pound.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I did not know that. Yes, there's a whole lot
I don't Know's are the same way.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
In other words, the leave comes out with a petiole
and it branches out to the leaflets and it branches
out again, and they're the penaintly opposed. In other words,
they're parallel with each other. So they're they're a good
tree to have a really Kentucky coffee tree. And they're
starting to kind of squeak into the into the retail
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market here and there because of their toughness.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It's a leg hume too, you know. But and.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So sometimes you get seed pods on them, which can
be considered unattractive. But it's called Kentucky coffee tree because
you can roast them and taste some kind of resembles coffee.
I mean, if you're really desperate, you know, and there's
nothing else around.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Me, you want to what get? You know, down in
Louisiana they have that chickory coffee.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah you ever had that?
Speaker 11 (40:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's strong. I like coffee strong. This is strong and
bitter and it makes your hair stand up on the end.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well sometimes you need that for days.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, so those are required taste now. Folks down there
love it.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Well anyway, the Kentucky coffee can be
confused with.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
A oh golly, what right out with another tree and
uh and it uh get kind of crossed up a
little bit. But this one, the leaf on it is.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
It comes out and it's branches out there and has
the leaves and they branch out to It's very complex,
so okay, structure on it kind of pretty too. I
like when the wind goes through.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
The kind of go like it's got a good little wavies.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Locust tree. That's some people confuse them with locust trees.
I would because they look very similar, but the difference
is the leaf structure.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, okay, So we talked about burning bush and per
simmons and Kentucky coffee trees, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Perennial of the week. This week we'll we talk about
the Stilby is it was to steal bey be still Stillby.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is a pernial that grows very low, maybe halfway up
your knee and height as the most and it's typically
has good flower color interest on it, and it likes
shay actually, and it's very compact growing quite colorful and
very easy and showy. But it must have good soil
and lots of fertility for it to work. So if
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you want some as Stilby, I kind of like it
for its feathery leaf texture really more than the flowers.
And it's a little hearty than some ferns, but it
kind of resembles them a little bit. But anyway, it's
still be as a perennial that likes the shade. I
have seen some on the east side of people's houses
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doing very well, but on the west side of the
house not doing well at all. This one doesn't like
the really hot sun, so it still be. Is something
you used to say in a wioland garden as a
border on the border or on the east of the
north side of the house is a perennial flower that
comes down.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I do like the texture. This one is kind of
nice in the landscape. It contrasts I.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
See with hosses hostas are these big leave things and
then you have these as stellies in front of them.
It creates a little bit of a textural interest in
the landscape too as well.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's some flowers and things too, so it still be.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
My consider in the shade planted and a significant amount
of peat.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Monster for it to do will or compost.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Because it's for a system, it's kind of wimpy, so
you need to make sure it's got the proper lightweight
soil for to do well.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
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Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener program and our
tool free line is one Atumbred seven three six. Lawn
Garden Questions ask away Larry Glass.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
It's our expert, Larry. I was at a house this
last week. She alot of the house on the on
the appropriate side of the east side. They had some
piaris plants and they were doing too well, and I said,
she said, why is my Pieri's plant not doing well?
(45:56):
This is a perfect environment for me. It is a
perfect environment. But some to put marble chips on the surface,
So why is that a problem? Marble marble is made
of calcium carbonate and it raises the soil pH and
piers are irriicacious.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
They like a low pH, so that is why the
other way.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Otherwise the situation was perfect for them. And I said,
what you need if you want to gravel or or
stone base? Uh, you want to quartz gravel base. We
have some at the nursery. That's it's the petals that
are made of silicon docks that are quartz and they
don't alter the.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
pH and the soil. So oh okay, well that's why.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Now you might be able to change a little bit
by adding some magnesium sulfate something like that. You don't
want to use iron sulfate on your on your marble
chip because of the turn of orange. So you use
magnesium sulfate to lower the pH a little bit and
just a little bit at a time, and probably the
best thing would be for them to remove the marble chips.
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And if you want to gravel based, don't use the gravel,
use a and a quartz space. You can tell this
quartz space by just kind of looking at it, and
they're somewhat translucent rather than opaque as the limestone basements are, so.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
That that's the reason why they didn't work. It's kind
of the same thing with your jelia. Be careful about
what you put on a surface treatment.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah, the white rock might look really nice, but it
raises the SOD that causes some issues with your azalias.
You can probably counteract that a bit with some acidic
type stuff, but it's it's a very delicate balance.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Typically when we do air coacious plants, we like to
use a mulch service cedar mulch or even a pine
pine needles to get them to do really well, and
the soil has to You have to check the soil
pH too, just to make sure that you don't have
any problems with your as. Using your piaras and some
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other acid forming requiring plants like that use a a
little different stories and we're tolerant. But they've grown the
shade too as well.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Okay, good to know.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, so yeah, it helps to know what these plants are.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
And you know, I asked, if I've got a place
in my yard, I want something that small and feathery
looking on the north side. What we Well, we got ferns.
The Japanese painted fern is a really excellent plant for
that case. And you've got some other things and as
zelious and whatnot will grow up there. But you have
to keep in mind what the soil requirements are for
these plants for them to thrive and do well. So
(48:50):
I see a lot of edicles to people's house and
you go, oh, oh, yeah, your soil the drainage isn't right,
or the soil pH isn't right, or you know, somethings
like that can happen. It's not enough root space for them,
and some other things too. So it helps to have
ask somebody, either myself or Gary at the nursery.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
We can kind of tell you.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
If you tell you, I can tell from what part
of town you live in how your soil is. That
won't work. You might want to consider maybe a hardy
ferns instead of pirates or some other plants that will
tolerate those conditions.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So cool ask questions first, folks, it goes, yeah, I
spend all your money and you know.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
So and say hey, well, hey, why you didn't ask?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
At the nursery, we have a great selection of pansies
and violas and also uh not not the musical listrum.
The violas is a kind of a small version of
the pan Johnny jump ups is kind of what they're
sometimes called too.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Mums are in. We got these giant mums the size
of aircraft carriers, but not that big anyway, and ounds.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Like Travis Meyer trying to tell us how big the
hail's going to be.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Basketball but anyway, and all kinds of we've got trees
coming in, all kinds of new trees coming in and
some things you're probably never heard of too, And as
far as what the trees are concerned, so I come by,
and a great selection of houseplants, tropicals. We have a
great selection at the greenhouse, and we have some growing
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back in our growing greenhouses. Not only do we have
that greenhouse of the nursery, but back behind it. We've
got six roads of greenhouses where we grow all this stuff,
so it's kind of cool, all right, So get that,
get your long fertilized, trying to get your your fescue
grass fertilized, get it ready to go for that time
(50:50):
to look with the weeds. A little late for pre
merging controlling weeds for your lawn, but at any rate,
it's a good time to plant some some fall color.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
And to do so you need to keep her keep
her shovel good and sharp. Tom Okay, guess at this
point we will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
All right, have a good one, Thank you, Larry. Folks,
stay tuned, your news is coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
So Larry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Interesting work week. We've had some warm temperature, some cool temperature.
Now we've got some wet conditions. Just it's been very,
very very northeast Oklahoma, southeast Kansas singer lately.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Perhaps after this weekend and this upcoming week, it's going
to rain every day. It looks like it perhaps my
shovel won't bounce off the ground or break break.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
You you how many shovels I've broken in my career.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I looked at the get US Book of World Records
and the country just kept going round.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Round and round.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Anyway, fallows in the air, and the heat is on
a little bit. Looks like it's gonna be a good
reasonable weather this week. And actually the ground will be
easy to work too. It's a little bit of moisture
in it, and light of that, we have fall moms
that are in color just about to burst.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Be careful when you get your moms.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's so early for them to be blooming out, so
don't get flickered in by buying some that already in bloom,
because when the time is primed, they're done.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The booms will be gone.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So now you've been having people just running in and
out with by the palette of moms.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, we're yeah, we've we're doing very well with mum
cells this year.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
People rarely want.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Some good color out in the yard, and it's a
good way to have some instant color if you will.
So yeah, so pansies are are out right now too.
We're gonna plant somebody's whole front yard full of pansies
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We'll get out there with our waiters.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And little little blow up boats gonna go with float
to the frame.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Anyway, so there's.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Tube and the front yard. Don't worry about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, it would be the first time planted flowers in
the rain, the last probably not anyway, So it's time
to get those pancies in the ground. If you don't
have your ground ready though, uh, you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Really need to do that first.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Before you do that, And on this particular instance, we're
going to bring out some composts brake off all the
all the old molds and everything else, and prepare the
soil with some good composts. This is the customer will
be fired for like twenty years and about.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Every three years or so.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
We we do that, we for to far the soil,
if you will, with the compost. And the plants really
like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Oh yeah, it's like fresh food.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So yeah, ym.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Old these pansy flowers big around us grapefruits, you know,
but not really. But anyway, so you do want pansies.
Don't lack a heavy soil.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
They don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They will absolutely absolutely they will exactly, they will absolutely
fail in the clay. So you want to if you
want to have some pantches in your front yard. But
you know, they give you flowers in the fall, then
throughout the winter and springs sometimes all the way to June.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So it's pretty good. Uh, you know, bargain.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
So I would go ahead and go ahead and put
some in them, might even plant them in my house.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He's thinking about it, folks, he's got that old hands.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I get these a scornful looks from my neighbors. Well, here,
the landscape man, why do you have craggrass?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know? What are your flowers your yard?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's right, buddy, No anyway, Also, the firing tale is
out to now. I like to use that in little
color accidents here and there in the landscape save by
the front door or somewhere maybe in the center of
the bed or something, just to break up, you know,
the monotony of some other things too. And these uh
(03:57):
plants do really quite well here in the cool in
the cool climb.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
They don't like the heat, but they do quite well
all winter long.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And right now there's sort of green colors, kind of
a blueish green color. But as it gets colder, the
chlorophyll and their different differentiates and it creates a different color.
So it could be a red color, or white color,
or pink color in some parts of the chlorophyll. So
it should be tagged on there this is the pink one.
(04:26):
This is the red with someone but anyway, who cares
it pretty anyway? Yeah, So anyway, so the kale and
the cabbage did quite well, and they're fairly largely.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Some big ones are.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Size of a basketball, yeah almost, and they're starting to
exhibit a little bit of color too.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So anyway, so.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It falls in the air time for that Also people
are thinking about their lawns too, especially those with fiscue.
So with the unslaught of this moisture, you might be
able to break the ground a little bit. You don't
really want to put seed on top of hard ground
because those roots just have to go down into the
(05:04):
ground and if you have to stand and jump on
the shovel to get the ground broken, whether they're really
not going to do very well. And typically our soil
here is laying in horizontal layers and we need to
kind of break that up a little bit, so kind
of mix it in and if it gets hard, you know,
(05:25):
packed like that over and over again, you may sip
adding some gypsum, adding some gypsum to the soil and
perhaps some composts too, just so it'll be somewhat more aerobic,
so the roots will go down, so the roots won't
really grow in an anaerobic situation. So if you can
drive a seven forty seven over your front yard and
not put a ding in the in the soil, you
(05:48):
might want.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
To consider doing some soil prep.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, so you don't waste your time, you don't waste
your money.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So, yeah, it does get that bad. Fertilize year lag.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
This is the time on your bermuda grass to put
down say some ten twenty ten. The phosphorus helps fortify
the stolens, it's solfs growth.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It helps the system survive too.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
If we have a really really cold snap in the
absence of snow on the surface, it can cost some
die back issues on the bermuda graphs here and there.
You don't want to use a lot of nitrogen right
now because we get a dollar spot when that happens,
which is a fungus disease that happens in the spring,
typically created by a superfluous amount of nitrogen in the soil.
(06:34):
So you use a fairly little nitrogen fertilizer at this
point to help build up the stolons in the bermuda
grass and as soyso grass kind of the same thing.
You don't want a lot of tender growth on it
going into the cold, so just an even ratio of
ten twenty ten or something like that fertilizer would help
(06:56):
its establishment and survivability into the winter. So boy like
going on the garden right now. Yeah, good time to
plant trees too.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It always is a good time to plant tree.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So anyway, and in plantic tree we we've discussed some
rules behind that and they're perfectly logical. Uh, be aware
of your drainage patterns in the yard and when the
tree grows, the root mass of the as it grows
has to go somewhere. Typically it goes up, and what
(07:33):
that does is create a blockage.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of water coming around the house.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So you get you have to open the garage door
in the back of the front to get the water
out of the backyard.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Seen that, I.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Bet you have, But there's you have.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we just opened the back door in the garage
door and the water runs through the garage clean. It
cleans the garage at least, So you want to make
sure to make sure to plant a tree that that
won't cause the drainage in the backyard to go through
the house.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Okay, So it just makes makes good sense.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You want to preserve those drainage patterns and and why
they This is pretty common up the Circle Mountain too.
The slope was absolutely towards there's no cross slope. It
goes towards the house. And I see actually people along
there with sandbags. But you have to regrade the ground
to let the water go around. If you put sandbags in,
(08:32):
it makes ground even higher, and it even makes the
situation worse. And there there's the magic number behind creating
a drainage flail is two percent slope will have enough
velocity in the water flow to carry de breathe out.
(08:52):
If you go less than that, the water runs slowly
and set of it that tends to gather and build
up flocks, the h blockage black. So you want to
try to maintain that that certain degree of slope so
that at that point the water acts as a carrier
for the debris leaftery and the soiled breeding be carried away.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You color ye, Good morning, Kevin, you're on the air.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Hey Larry, Hey, you're great.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You are.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Don't find Kevin? What's up with you today?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Man?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Another rain?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, ain't that great?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You can turn off it was getting, it was getting.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You could turn off your sprinkler system.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well I had, I had turned it on the other
day because.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I know, you see these big cracks on the ground
and you look down there you see you know lava.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
I know it's the lavat I've got, I've got. I
think it is an.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Overgrown Mucho pond. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right,
I think I will pull it out. Okay, my time
a tractor on it and pull it out.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Maybe today's today.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It'll come out like a lose too today if it
rains all day, I know so, But.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I want to put in there, like if I put
in two or three you know, like.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Pencil hollies.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, they'll grow upright. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The skypencil holly is a Japanese holly. What it's a
Japanese variety. Skypencil Holli is a variety of Japanese holley.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
They they grow real straight up.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Straight up.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And when you do plant that, you might want to
check your soil pH because they do like a low pH.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Or you're going to put some salts in there.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Some salts are I actually actually for holly, you might
consider iron sulfate.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Just dump a whole bunch down in there.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Well no, no, no, no, they don't want to burn it.
But depending on really the PhD the soil is how
you do want to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Really, but really.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I just put iron sulfate on my hollies every year
and they do just great.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The box with beautiful dark green color.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So yeah, uh, magnesium sultate them yeah, I just sprinkled
around them a little bit and do it on an
annual basis because it does that. The pH does change
over time as it was is through. So you want
to use a Holi type fertilizer and a ze type
fertilizer on your holleags like that, and then.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They should do. Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's the biggest problem with people's holly. Turn count our
high pH.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Soil, and the bugs and stuff don't get the stupid.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Uh not so much really as they would say a
yop on holly or something. There's a little inch worm
that will text the yop on holly. That's about it
on that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But uh, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Don't see very many mites on a Japanese holly anything
like that. No back, Yeah, but the big problem with
them is our soil type here, otherwise I plant them
all over the place.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
But golly, let me tell you, I can get that
tractor and ty chain on that thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well, yeah, that's your your thirty six cylinder tractor. I'll
be listening. I'll be listening for it. Look for the
black smoke in the rising.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
It's a regular tractor with a bucket on the front.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I know.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I just told you that I know, and you know
hills kicking a good john the year, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Right, calculated things.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, but yeah, something like a Japanese holly like that.
It's it's not you don't see very many holly is
growing wild here, with the exception of deciduous holly, which
is endemic to the areas. It's indigenous, I guess to
the area, and it does does quite well here in
our variable soil.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
pH highly variable. It's adapted.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Okay, So but that's about the only holly species that's
that's a resident in this area.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
A good example of that is along the Hillcrest country
Club along Silver Lake Road, they have deciduous holly and
maiden drafts and pretty well for this sunshine the gustroom
and you know some of the plants that Bernie bush
that does stuff throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's a good example of what we'll grow here
in our soil, if you will.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right
back after this two minute timeout.
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
We're back with the Great Country Gardener programmed and it
is eight twenty five sixty six degrees a little bit
of rain. Larry was just telling me that there are
some berries that the birds partake of around February where
they get a little.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, like February, the deciduous holiday varies on them. If
they stay on the very long the starch is inside,
the very converts to sugars and if it stays on
any lovon net, the sugars ferment.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So if you wonder why are the birds keep flying
into your windows taking I was in the with a.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Long long time ago in my in my early twenties,
I was with a property management company down in Tulsa, Okay,
and we had some deciduous hollies.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Nobody knew what it was and what does that six
decid But yeah, there's a deciduous holl and the robins
would attack them. It was in the parking lot. So
I guess the sugar, the sugar is coming in for
the sugar or they come in. They turned into.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Alcoholretty quickly, and they were running into the buildings, just
flying in all these weird patterns.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And what is wrong with these birds?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I said, your deciduous hollies are probably having some fermentation issues,
so they're flying drunk. I guess that was really weird
to see them and they get on the ground.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's kind of up.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Kind of on a Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yes, that was a pretty wild experience. So that's the
only that's the only reason I can that's the only
way I can come up with the reason for that
is the starch converting the sugars and converting to alcohol.
But anyway, it's time to divide your iris in the
yard at this point too. I did that to mind
(18:23):
last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I need to move my.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Japanese puny from where it is to a different place
because the conciduous holly is encroaching upon its territory and
it didn't bloom last year. So that's that's not good
at all. So so I cleared out an area, took
out some of the twice blooming irish. I haven't divided
them in case I'm away to nursery too, so I
(18:50):
think there's still a few of them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The crateon and it's a picture of the color of
the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
They take one and you enjoy it and share it whatever,
and so so that's going to happen maybe this week weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe do that working on
the truck. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yes, it's raining, Larry, so you can work on your truck.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yet is outside? So what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Birds getting drunk?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No dividing your pennials.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Also, peonies can be divided at this point too. So
I have some clutters of peonies that are not quite
knee high. They're real small plants, but they have all
these red flowers. Really in the spring, they're really quite showy.
So I think you're going to divide those out a
little bit. They're getting a little crowded, so nothing worse
than crowded peonies. They just every time I won't go
(19:48):
by with them over, they just yell at me and
say yelp me. But anyway, so now it's the time
here to do that. The mums are setting their buzz
right now, so make sure they don't dry out. Avoid
heavy cutting of trees and shrubs. New growth can be
killed off in the winter cold. So in other words,
if you cut something back like a tree, it could
(20:09):
still maybe have a branch grow out. It'll be somewhat
tender going into the winter. So still a little bit
early to do some pruenium trees. I wait a little
bit longer till they until they start changing colors. At
the nursery. They have new shrubs and trees and annuals.
(20:30):
Despite all the heat we've had a little bit. The
moons are here. The mums are here, of course, a
little early to show some blooms. We try not to
force them into coloring in an artificial time. Pansies, got
those the tail and cabbage available right now too, So
there's kind of a lot going on in the garden.
We're kind of sort of in a transition period between
(20:51):
the drought and the hard pans soil and some pretty
good soil with some rain and some good planting weather
for trees and shrubs, pansies and flowering cabbage and a
grass seed too, with the very chill end of establishing
fescue grass in the yard too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So you need to get away.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Along if you want to plant some of that home
because it's I'm going to get a little bit too
late for it to really grow and prosper before the
real cold hits. So it's just primetime right now. So
for establishing in a fescue, get some grass man right.
So a tall fescue does pretty well around here. There's
(21:32):
about any variety that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Round here, So you do that.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It doesn't grow in heavy cray and heavy clay rather,
and it will not tolerate too much water on a
consistent basis. So when you do it, put the seed down,
you water it and let it get a little bit
on the dry side and actually when you do the seed,
you just don't want to dump it on the ground.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You want to rake the soil up.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
At least loosen up the surface so the seed will
get integrated into the soil somewhat.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Have you just put it on top of a hard pan.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, the bird you're just going to eat it, So
you want to loosen up the soil a little bit,
either with a rake or a little mini tiller or something,
and then put it on and kind of rake it
into the ground a little bit too. And sometimes you
can put some peat moss on the surface or some
straw to help the keep the soil from drying out
(22:23):
between watering so much.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Then you'll have some pretty good luck.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I remember as a kid up in Chicago, we had
a fescue on and we bought a big old bill
hey and some grass seed, and it made it really nice.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Of course, anything grows up there so good. Up there.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
When you turn it over, it's just black. I know,
it's so rich because it used to be lake bottom,
you know. Yeah, it's wonderful soil up there. Then you
come down here you break I don't know how many
shells I've broken over there. Okay, Okay, on that note.
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Speaker 1 (25:11):
Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener Program. Our boat
line is open at one eight hundred seven four nine
five dying three six. He's ltry Glass, he's our expert.
And what do we have next on the agenda?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Oh, we talked a little bit about Bernie Bush earlier,
Yeah we did. Anyway, J want to miss latter or
Bernie Bush is really noted for its excellent and brilliant
fall color.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It is distinguished by its clear red fall fulage small
red orange fruit. Well for they call it it's technically
it's a fruit. Okay, I call it a berry, but
technically it's a fruit okay. And wings on the stem.
Now back in college, we call it winged. You wannamus
a winged? You want to wingedamous?
Speaker 13 (25:56):
Will?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
We?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yes? Will?
Speaker 9 (25:57):
We did?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, when you want of us.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Which flare out typically flare.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Out along its branches and you know, stemps and so on,
and it's used I use a lot in mass plantings
as a shrub border, as an accent plant, or as
a hedge. He's a pretty versatile plant, so you can
kind of do anything you want with it, really, as
far as they make almost a substitute for say a
Japanese maple, but you have to prune it up in
(26:26):
order in order it won't do it on its own.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You have to you have to work not to get
it like that.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So I have some examples in my backyard where there
they look like little Japanese maples, so and they're just
tough as convening up. One problem we have here is
in when the heat starts to hit in summer is
a mites and they cause a stippling of the leaf.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Stippling that's where you have these little yellow dots from
the leaves. That's where the mites going. And I guess
I can.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Say that anyway, and it causes a little bit of discoloration,
but they still exhibit some good fall color when the
time comes. So that's the only really pest I've seen
on the Bernie bush is a mites and occasionally they
do get a stem stem rot to stem disease two
and give too much water or something, or even if
(27:22):
it gets way too dry to do the same thing.
But I ask them growing in along the fens side,
they've never watered all summer long.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
They're doing fine. I think it's because of my neighbor waters.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Anyway, this plant can be kept down even a knee
high if you want, or it can grow into a small,
almost a Japanese maple sized plant over time. There's some
really good examples in Woodland Park in the shade the
planet of these, and they look like kind of Japanese
maple lesque, I guess, kind of a multi trunk plant,
(27:58):
but different layers on it. You don't get the good
fall color though.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
In the shade.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's got phenomenon that happens in the sun. So but
be that doesn't miss out on them. You know, two
weeks of pretty color.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's not catching fires in the shade.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
In the shade exactly. They don't require a whole lot
of fertilizer. They didn't require a whole lot of care.
You can prove them shape any way you want, into
boxes or spheres or vase shaping, do anything with them
because they're a member of the you want of us family.
You've heard of Manhattan umanamous, which is an evergreen type
(28:38):
of uanimous, and they do. They did pretty well here too.
So Bernie Bushy go when to have annual the week
of course is pansy. I'm going to talk about that.
The pansy is related to violas. No, not the stringed instrument,
the group of plants from which Johnny jump up are related.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Viola is a large, really.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Broad based genius, consisting of five hundred different species. Viola's
are films familiar to people in Greece in the fourth
century BC. They've been around a While's some pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Old plants, and.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The censor origin for for violas was in continental Europe.
They're very hearty but somewhat delicate. Viola's were actually planted
by the green way back when they's been a while.
These plants are pretty old, been around a while. So anyway,
sometime after the fourth century the somebody observed them and
(29:41):
they started hybridizing them villas. Now we have big, big
flowered pansies right now at this point in time. So
you blame the French for that good job.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Anyway, So it so here in Oklahoma though they like
a cooler weather, they really don't tolerate.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're real hot weather.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And golly, we're selling them god by the armloads at
the nursery right now. But anyway, they were cultivated in
Europe by of course many gardeners and then the hybridizing
and then now we have these big flowers on them,
so really quite nice. So it's it's a fall thing
and they blow them throughout the winter and let's think
it's really really cold. They put on a show even
(30:29):
actually we've had a good hard frost. So when you
do your annual beds and all that, you might want
to have some gaps and spaces in your annuals to
the plants, some pagings.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
In the fall.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
See you have some color all year round. You can
eat a layered in the front as a border for
the fall, or just intermixed with some other annuals. And
when then when they freeze out, these these will start
to take over. So you can be a strategic on
the pimping on the time I mean of it. So
(31:02):
that's kind of it with pansies. The root system on
It is very delicate and they do require a significant
amount of soil preparation when planting them, so you might
want to be prepared for that too. You just really
can't plant them in heavy soil.
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Welcome back to the Green Country Gardner program It's eight
forty two sixty five. Rain is starting to kind of
clear out in the oce Age and up there around
dan into the Bartlesville area, you know, Coffeeville. You'll be
getting a little bit clearer here in a little bit
as well, know wa in South Coffeeville. But it looks
like we'll have a pretty good day before the next
(33:52):
round hits later tonight. Larry glasses with us. He is
our expert here on the Green Country Gardner programming. You
can reach us and have your question answered at one
eight seven, five, nine three six Larry Truth.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Week is Diospyrus virginiana, but who yeah really? Diospyrus virginiana
otherwise known as percimmon. It's a small and medium sized
tree about eighteen meters or sixty feet tall, about twenty
feet diameter so or twenty inches at the bark is
(34:29):
dark brown to black, and it's very thick bark fissured, fissured,
meaning you've got the separations in it is a highly
fissured textured bark. What kind I say is a good
parallel to that, something very rough textured, like you're you're
(34:50):
lawmore tire. Yeah, that's kind of like it, and with
small it's characterized my small squarish block on it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So if you see a tree out there that's got.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
The very dark, dark bark on it and it has
a very heavily fissured bark, they are configured in squares
and it looks like your tractor tire on your lawn.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Mower's that's chances are that's the permon tree.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Per see.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
The twigs are thin and kind of exactly a little
bit brownish or gray, and butter are small pointed with
two brown shining scales, really no terminal bud, and the
leaves are alternate and oval to elliptic uh and entire.
In other words, they have no serrations on them. And
actually they're kind of glossy too. So per Simons are
actually dioecious, so uh not everyone has fruit on them,
(35:45):
just just the female, just.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
The female Hey, we got a call. Good morning, Welcome
to the Green Country Gardener Program. Your question for Larry, Yes, Larry.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
I've got two apple trees and they have spouts come
up all around the bottom of them.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
What can I do to stop that?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm pulling them off and cut.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Them off and done everything in the world I can't stop.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Well, that's uh, it's coming up from the rootstock, and
that's just a typical.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
So okay, you just have to stop it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, you don't want to overdo it.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Cut them off?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, I just keep copping cutting them off. I get
that on the plum trees too, that I just cut
them off. But if you try to, if you get
real close to the stem, you can you can disrupt
the connective tissue between the two. So it's a rootstock
coming up from the from so that I just got
to live with it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh yeah, about twice a year, maybe getting a bit.
So it should be just.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
That.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's problem, man. It's to be expected. The fruit trees
for the most part of grafted. And that's that's a
subgraph coming up.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I think I can recall appreciate it, and you can
be the next one up at one eight hundred seven
three six.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, I get those on my plumps and I just
just cut them off and they come back about a
month later. Andre you are, but really you don't really
want to go down deep and try to eliminade it.
Down deep, you can introduce all kinds of bugs and fungus.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
In your You can do more harm than good as
what you.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Cut them off. The best thing you can do.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
They do that, I guess when they get older too,
so maybe it's just time to you know, get online
and go to start brothers and get some new ones.
So anyway, h the per seven is a native tree
over here, and uh, they get They're not a huge
tree by means, and they tend to grow in a colony.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
In other words, the riots will spread out and they
come up here and there.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
They got a volunteer right out of the grade, right.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
And sometimes you get a male, sometimes you get a female.
So if you dig one out out in the forest, yeah,
there's a little persimetry you dig it up, well, it
probably there's a chance that it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Won't do anything. You're not preiming, no, because you're a male.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's why sit around the yard do nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Noah, So anyway, everybody knows about the fruits. They're not
any good until we have a good treeze. So if
you come across the permon withims on it, they're going
to be kind of a bitter at this point and
very h hard if you will. And actually we've had
(38:35):
a good freeze, they're suitable to you. Well, that's kind
of what's a native tree for the day, So that
they're they're pretty cool. They're very hardy plants to kind
of like a Kentucky coffee tree. The Degenma planets Diusia. Yeah,
it's a legume actually, and there are some growing around town.
(38:55):
And it's unique amongst the tree species, and that it
is by pinnately com pound.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I did not know that. Yes, there's a whole lot
I don't Know's are the same way.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
In other words, the leave comes out with a petiole
and it branches out to the leaflets and it branches
out again, and they're the penaintly opposed. In other words,
they're parallel with each other. So they're they're a good
tree to have a really Kentucky coffee tree. And they're
starting to kind of squeak into the into the retail
(39:33):
market here and there because of their toughness.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It's a leg hume too, you know. But and.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
So sometimes you get seed pods on them, which can
be considered unattractive. But it's called Kentucky coffee tree because
you can roast them and taste some kind of resembles coffee.
I mean, if you're really desperate, you know, and there's
nothing else around.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Me, you want to what get? You know, down in
Louisiana they have that chickory coffee.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah you ever had that?
Speaker 11 (40:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Don't?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's strong. I like coffee strong. This is strong and
bitter and it makes your hair stand up on the end.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well sometimes you need that for days.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, so those are required taste now. Folks down there
love it.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah. Well anyway, the Kentucky coffee can be
confused with.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
A oh golly, what right out with another tree and
uh and it uh get kind of crossed up a
little bit. But this one, the leaf on it is.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
It comes out and it's branches out there and has
the leaves and they branch out to It's very complex,
so okay, structure on it kind of pretty too. I
like when the wind goes through.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
The kind of go like it's got a good little wavies.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Locust tree. That's some people confuse them with locust trees.
I would because they look very similar, but the difference
is the leaf structure.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay, okay, So we talked about burning bush and per
simmons and Kentucky coffee trees, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Perennial of the week. This week we'll we talk about
the Stilby is it was to steal bey be still Stillby.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Is a pernial that grows very low, maybe halfway up
your knee and height as the most and it's typically
has good flower color interest on it, and it likes
shay actually, and it's very compact growing quite colorful and
very easy and showy. But it must have good soil
and lots of fertility for it to work. So if
(41:52):
you want some as Stilby, I kind of like it
for its feathery leaf texture really more than the flowers.
And it's a little hearty than some ferns, but it
kind of resembles them a little bit. But anyway, it's
still be as a perennial that likes the shade. I
have seen some on the east side of people's houses
(42:13):
doing very well, but on the west side of the
house not doing well at all. This one doesn't like
the really hot sun, so it still be. Is something
you used to say in a wioland garden as a
border on the border or on the east of the
north side of the house is a perennial flower that
comes down.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I do like the texture. This one is kind of
nice in the landscape. It contrasts I.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
See with hosses hostas are these big leave things and
then you have these as stellies in front of them.
It creates a little bit of a textural interest in
the landscape too as well.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's some flowers and things too, so it still be.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
My consider in the shade planted and a significant amount
of peat.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Monster for it to do will or compost.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Because it's for a system, it's kind of wimpy, so
you need to make sure it's got the proper lightweight
soil for to do well.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Okay, right here, let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back after this two minute, ten second time out.
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Welcome back to the Green Country Gardener program and our
tool free line is one Atumbred seven three six. Lawn
Garden Questions ask away Larry Glass.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
It's our expert, Larry. I was at a house this
last week. She alot of the house on the on
the appropriate side of the east side. They had some
piaris plants and they were doing too well, and I said,
she said, why is my Pieri's plant not doing well?
(45:56):
This is a perfect environment for me. It is a
perfect environment. But some to put marble chips on the surface,
So why is that a problem? Marble marble is made
of calcium carbonate and it raises the soil pH and
piers are irriicacious.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
They like a low pH, so that is why the
other way.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Otherwise the situation was perfect for them. And I said,
what you need if you want to gravel or or
stone base? Uh, you want to quartz gravel base. We
have some at the nursery. That's it's the petals that
are made of silicon docks that are quartz and they
don't alter the.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
pH and the soil. So oh okay, well that's why.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Now you might be able to change a little bit
by adding some magnesium sulfate something like that. You don't
want to use iron sulfate on your on your marble
chip because of the turn of orange. So you use
magnesium sulfate to lower the pH a little bit and
just a little bit at a time, and probably the
best thing would be for them to remove the marble chips.
(47:09):
And if you want to gravel based, don't use the gravel,
use a and a quartz space. You can tell this
quartz space by just kind of looking at it, and
they're somewhat translucent rather than opaque as the limestone basements are, so.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
That that's the reason why they didn't work. It's kind
of the same thing with your jelia. Be careful about
what you put on a surface treatment.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah, the white rock might look really nice, but it
raises the SOD that causes some issues with your azalias.
You can probably counteract that a bit with some acidic
type stuff, but it's it's a very delicate balance.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
So uh.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Typically when we do air coacious plants, we like to
use a mulch service cedar mulch or even a pine
pine needles to get them to do really well, and
the soil has to You have to check the soil
pH too, just to make sure that you don't have
any problems with your as. Using your piaras and some
(48:12):
other acid forming requiring plants like that use a a
little different stories and we're tolerant. But they've grown the
shade too as well.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Okay, good to know.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, so yeah, it helps to know what these plants are.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
And you know, I asked, if I've got a place
in my yard, I want something that small and feathery
looking on the north side. What we Well, we got ferns.
The Japanese painted fern is a really excellent plant for
that case. And you've got some other things and as
zelious and whatnot will grow up there. But you have
to keep in mind what the soil requirements are for
these plants for them to thrive and do well. So
(48:50):
I see a lot of edicles to people's house and
you go, oh, oh, yeah, your soil the drainage isn't right,
or the soil pH isn't right, or you know, somethings
like that can happen. It's not enough root space for them,
and some other things too. So it helps to have
ask somebody, either myself or Gary at the nursery.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
We can kind of tell you.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
If you tell you, I can tell from what part
of town you live in how your soil is. That
won't work. You might want to consider maybe a hardy
ferns instead of pirates or some other plants that will
tolerate those conditions.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So cool ask questions first, folks, it goes, yeah, I
spend all your money and you know.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
So and say hey, well, hey, why you didn't ask?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
At the nursery, we have a great selection of pansies
and violas and also uh not not the musical listrum.
The violas is a kind of a small version of
the pan Johnny jump ups is kind of what they're
sometimes called too.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Mums are in. We got these giant mums the size
of aircraft carriers, but not that big anyway, and ounds.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Like Travis Meyer trying to tell us how big the
hail's going to be.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Basketball but anyway, and all kinds of we've got trees
coming in, all kinds of new trees coming in and
some things you're probably never heard of too, And as
far as what the trees are concerned, so I come by,
and a great selection of houseplants, tropicals. We have a
great selection at the greenhouse, and we have some growing
(50:29):
back in our growing greenhouses. Not only do we have
that greenhouse of the nursery, but back behind it. We've
got six roads of greenhouses where we grow all this stuff,
so it's kind of cool, all right, So get that,
get your long fertilized, trying to get your your fescue
grass fertilized, get it ready to go for that time
(50:50):
to look with the weeds. A little late for pre
merging controlling weeds for your lawn, but at any rate,
it's a good time to plant some some fall color.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
And to do so you need to keep her keep
her shovel good and sharp. Tom Okay, guess at this
point we will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
All right, have a good one, Thank you, Larry. Folks,
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