Pagan Cycles and Modern Grinds: Content Creation, Magick Runes and the Lifting of the Veil (Disorganized Productions)

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you become the best version of yourself. I'm your host, Rob,
and each episode will embark you on a journey to
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The futures us its juice, Hey there, fellow human, Welcome
to another episode of his organized productions. And boy am
I disorganized. I mean last episode, I did a solo episode,

(02:05):
and I explained myself that my guest didn't show up.
But I was talking to my guests the other day.
It seemed that he was trying to join, but I
couldn't see anything in zoom because I had some network problems.
And with that said, I'm just gonna admit my new

(02:28):
guest in a podcast. He will be there in a second.
Then we haven't gonna have a brilliant conversation. Oh wow,
there is already. I was just okay, you're connecting with
the audio. That seems to be all perfectly fine. I
can't hear you yet, but yeah, we're dealing with some well,

(02:55):
I've been dealing with some problems. Like I said in
a little intro, was just starting with the intro. Yeah,
you're still connected with the audio. I see that, so
but that's kind of yes, there you are.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, no, I just I gotta.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Try and.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Because a moment that's computer you know.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh yeah, you're looking brilliant me. I'm just on the phone.
So I was if you just if you just wait
for a little second. I just wanted to tell my
audience about the last thing that I screwed up with
these organized productions. Uh, and then we're gonna have a
brilliant conversation. Stand So it seemed that I had so
much network problems that even the video that normally is

(03:42):
gonna be perfect and the audio from the files that
I get from zoom normally are perfect, so I edited
them and all that stuff. But when I did that
with the last podcast, it seemed that the audio in
the beginning was it was a mess, and the video
was just a few pixels. So I really had some problems.

(04:05):
And it turned out that KPN, which is the provider
here in the Netherlands, had some updates on their network,
so hopefully they're done with that kind of shit, because
finally we're going to do some new stuff right here
on Disorganized Productions. I want to shout out to Sam
that's gonna provide me provided me with the brand new website,

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Holisticcarnomad dot com. Of course you can see all my
links at Disorganized Productions dot com. You can have your
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of course in the show description, and please welcome with me,

(04:51):
fellow humans. Stayin focus from the gray Horn Pot the
Gray Horn Pagan Podcast.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, thank you for having me. I
I just made it, thankfully. My dad has as a
really good computer and a decent webcam and Mike kis
Man I got. I got so many things going on
at the moment. I keep forgetting ship like I have work.

(05:23):
I got my own show that people are scheduling on that.
I'm like, who are you? I never spoke to you,
but okay, cheers for scheduling the interviews, private life. It's
everything at once, but we're here, and yeah, thanks for
thanks for having me man, thanks for letting me come

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on again.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's a Chaos Chris harmony, as you know. The fellow listeners,
they know that my show is called that chas Chris Harmony.
But nevertheless, finally we have the Pagan and the handsome devil.
Guess who is who? Yes, serious, sir Stein, good to

(06:05):
see you man. We met each other in in Amsterdam, actually, yes,
a little while ago, which was really cool to see
each other in person, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
It was, it was. It was a lot of fun.
We had the the handsome Neville, the pagan, we had
the vampire, we had the the well nutritionist. Yeah, and
his rocket scientist father.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Wow. Yes, shout out to Brandon. It was a pretty
cool time that we had right there. So what I'm
trying to or what I want to do Stein, is
when we're done, when I'm done with this episode, I'm
going to send it to you so you can post
it also on your channel. So we have a double
wobble today. I think that's the bad thing because we

(06:54):
as content creators and a lot of people do not
know that it's not only in the schedule and talking
to people on a podcast. It's it's of course, it
comes with a lot of other stuff to do. I
saw that you did a podcast with Stitt with Derek
Stitt shout out to the.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Stud Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I saw that on on Spotify. And he seems
to have the video of YouTube guys also on Spotify,
so if you look at the podcast, you can also
check the video. So I want to figure out how
that's working.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
And I noticed it's a thing that Spotify does since
a while like you can watch video on Spotify. I'm
not sure who actually does that, but it's an option. Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And the other thing is so it's not only two
hours of talking or whatever time, it's also editing the stuff.
I never edited things out. Don't want to make it
war professional because I don't have the gear here in
my car because I'm a car no man to set
up everything perfectly. So it sounds like really good crispy ship.

(08:13):
And I noticed you're doing a lot of shows like
every Saturday you do is do his show with Zerra
Lad and then we talked about a little bit before him.
Please talk tell me about it. You were asked for
a TV show.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, that was a a recommendation from Yost. Actually
he always comes with that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
That was.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Uh, yeah it was. It was for a new program
from U b A Nevada, which is uh for those
not familiar with Dutch TV, it's kind of the what
is it youth you know, late teens, early twenties kind

(09:04):
of tvOS like.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
H definitely.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Mentally at least yeah no, but it's Pearls for the
for the Swine with a very well known non binary
rock person artists, like it was an existing program, but

(09:38):
they had to do an overhaul because at first it
was with.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Like just the.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Every like famous Dutch person that you've seen on TV already,
you know, but then in a more intimate setting on
on their farm and all of that, which yeah, okay, cool,
it was a but then the audience got really pissed
off that the the cooking that they did on the

(10:10):
show wasn't actually cooking, but there was catering. So they yeah,
no way, they're lying to you. They're lying to you
on TV.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
What oh the television the.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Tell lie vision, tell a lie vision.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah that's who shocker.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Uh. So you know, like their their entire media team
was like, oh ship, like we we we need to
overhaul this. We need to do something else because oh goss,
like we have a contract, there's money to be made,
a little money spent already. So this they decided to

(10:53):
like put out a call on on Instagram that that
was the original post that Yos shared with me, like, hey,
do you have a cool story to tell?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Do you like have.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
This or have done that or you you know, like
I just want to do a backflip bar and aked
and have a beer with me.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Guess why not I like the bear and the other thing.
I don't know it's suitable for this, but I mean.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
I'm not that athletic, so you know, like send send
us an email at like this and this address, and
I send out an email with you know, of course
the thing that I do, Like I had the part
like about my ancestral faith, about the about the tribe,

(11:44):
about my podcast and like that. I try to educate
people about our ancestral faith, about the gods, about all
the more you know, accult esoteric mystic things that come
with it. And I've gotten really far. Actually I've had like,

(12:09):
uh two, like I want to say, like at least
two phone calls with one of the one of the
producers from the from the like from the the production company,
the production house that produces the show for being Avada,

(12:31):
you know, like they really liked the story and they
wanted me to like draft up something because my idea
was too like do a ancestral ritual on live TV,
like to also like show like what we're what we do,

(12:52):
what we're about and all that, And it's so funny
the actual reason or what the reason that I was
was told why they why I wasn't chosen is because
they felt it was too big for like just that show.

(13:14):
Like you know, like I was planning like an old
ancestral thing, and you know like I was, I mean
I was, I was basically planning for I mean you
could almost say like an entire documentary while it was
just supposed to be like a forty five hour you

(13:34):
know episodes really right, right, So yeah, but like I
still you know, have the uh, the telephone number of
you know, the producer, and I I already cut some
or at least a tip from Martin from Travel the Fox,

(13:56):
Like hey, there's always like this other producer who is
kind of a rogue kind of producer, like he you know,
like goes against the mainstream, goes against the grain and
all that and like really takes on the more alternative
side of things. So I still like have multiple options

(14:17):
that I can explore, but like I've gotten really flows
like closer than I ever imagined I would. I would
come because Jos also send in his story about you know,
the whole vampire cult thing, and I was like, well
I might They're going to choose like between a freaking
somebody who used to be like in a vampire cold

(14:40):
and a pagan. I was like, I mean, I choose
the vampire could.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
But they're right for the pagan. Right. It's really interesting
because nowadays we can create that own stuff. I mean,
if you really want to push it. I mean I
pret myself a camera not long ago, like a P
nine hundred from my car. I can I can make

(15:06):
shut of the moon that are incredible and also videos.
But you know, the podcasting stuff is what I like.
But I like also to make some really valuable content,
make pictures, some videos and stuff like that. But if
we're going to take it to the next level and
to make a documentary or our own you know, how

(15:28):
to edit the stuff. We have the capability, the tools,
the software nowadays that is going to help us to
do that. I mean, go for it, man, because I
think that the things that we want to talk about
in the podcast or the things that are lying within
our interest should be brought out in the world so
more people can dig into that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's you know, it's cool
doing this independently and like growing your audience or organically
through podcasting. I mean, that's it's how I got my
my YouTube channel to over one k.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I'm not able to monetize it though, because YouTube is.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Like, eh, yeah, here are some Now he needs five
thousands for the monetized on.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
No, no, no, no, you need a thousands subscribers and
four four thousands watch hours like I got to watch
hours before I got the subscribers. Wow, long long lived podcasting,
like fucking two and a half three and a half
hour shows. Sometimes it's insane, But.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
My thumbnails are misleading?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Oh you got the because of the biggest reasons warnings.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah no, not not even warnings like just my thumbnails
are misleading and like only two drive clicks and it's like, well.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, that's supposed. Some meals are for right and.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
A lack of original content while I've been creating more
original content than ever before.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, So I had to community strike things going on.
It's YouTube in the beginning before I had like forty
episodes on, so I said, like, I'm not gonna post
anything because otherwise they're gonna take it down. It's like
forty hours of you know, blood, sweat and tears. But
I really do hope so that we both now make

(17:46):
a chance to get this drone going with the thing
that you sent me.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, I shared that with you.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Swhear to God if I'm gonna if I'm gonna win
that drone, I definitely come to to where I know
where you are. You're not gonna mention any locations because
you never know what what kind of stuff is gonna
happen when they know the location. Probably that's that's the
reason why I'm no man. Right, So is this thing

(18:15):
hanging on It's not hanging in my face, right, It's
just a shadow, right, Okay, this thing is just.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
No, it's it's it's all good. Just give give you
an edge.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
You know, oh a little bit of an edge. Oh
I need that sometimes. And I need needs to to
to condole the knife too, because otherwise I'm too too sharp.
But that's the thing. If you can get the gear
or the sponsoring from some products like that, like the
d U I Y or you know, like a drone,

(18:47):
if you can definitely get some great footage out and
to talk a little bit more about the podcast, to
do the h to do more with less effort until
you have some great shots really, you know, trigger people
to look at stuff, because if you do not like
to see two people talking on whatever subject, which we

(19:09):
do on the podcast, then you know that that's a yeah,
that that's nothing. But if you share like oh I'm
anything right now, I'm now walking in the woods or whatever,
the fuck, Yeah, that's gonna be a tremendous upload, tremendous
gain or content creators like us. That's why I'm pushing

(19:30):
and try to push my content out and all the links.
It's like, you know, well, it is like we don't
make any real money with the things that we do.
And it's fine, well a little a little bit. You know,
it drips on on on with the platforms on on

(19:51):
and some things working, some things don't. But of course,
if I if I could put out the things that
I have in my head into that that kind of
thing like podcasting, music and videos only these three things,
these multimedia things, dude, I can work on it all
day because I have so many ideas. But now, just

(20:12):
like you said from the beginning, I don't find the
time because of me too. I'm working and today was
ten and a half hours. That seems a lot or
not a lot, but it's you know, it's work. So
when you back home wherever, that is. I'm also a
little bit done with the day, especially right now while

(20:34):
I'm living into nature. Sun it's almost set right now
within fifteen to twenty minutes is dark. I feel that
my menatonium is going. Yeah, not on the phone, and
then I go to bed, So like ten o'clock, I'm
most of the time done. Not when I'm having a
podcast and I having the energy like you have and

(20:54):
the energy we're creating together. So yeah, that's definitely going
to help us out a lot. So with you listening
to this podcast, U y, I we need that. We
need that. Are we gonna make some content together if
we're gonna win?

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, no exactly, and the like that's I've been like
also making like a lot of standalone videos, like on
on particular topics, just because I like, I like creating
those videos. I like coming up with like ideas and
then getting a getting a script together. I like the

(21:32):
it's it's more of the I mean, that's that's the
thing with with podcasting. I love just you know, having
these conversations and with making those videos. I love recording
the audio, finding you know, music with it or if
it's a more of a more of a storytelling audio
more of a storytelling podcast. What I like to do

(21:55):
is like also get you know, like a lot of
the the the sounds together. That's why what I've been
I do that every once in a while. It's a
lot of work, but it's a lot of fun. But
that's what I like about podcasting, like all the other stuff.
You know, having to make a thund now it's the
least worst things, but you know, shorts and upload it

(22:20):
and promote it and you know, like's keep up with
the Patreon, keep up with this, keep up with that,
like just everything around. It is so much work, but
that's that's why I love platforms like upbeats, like who
are doing the contest for the drone? A lot of

(22:40):
the music that I have used in those down alone videos,
and a lot of the music that I use, especially
like for my intro and outro. All of these special
effects that I use in my videos, I I got.
I got them from that website. It's it's it's really

(23:02):
it's really good websites for for a lot of those things.
And that's that's also part of the part that I like.
You know, it's like, oh, you know, in the script,
like it says this what can I find, like, you know,
for like an overlay or a sound or a kind
of music that like fits with that. Like the whole
process of getting it all together I absolutely love. And

(23:29):
also like just random sounds. Like I'm doing a Patreon
only series where I talk about just things from the Netherlands.
I mean I've been I've been taking my podcast I
mean quite literally all over the world, but like not

(23:50):
focusing on Netherlands as much. And I was like, well,
I need more content for Patreon, Like I need a
reason other than like the Esoteric book Club and just
early access to the podcasts for people to subscribe. So
I was like, you know what, I I'm just I'm
gonna stay close to home. And one of the first

(24:14):
ones I did was about a haunted house in dukham
in Frisia, and like I it was so fun like
also getting all the like all the sounds you know
for that together and make them fit in the like
in the right places. So when you know the script

(24:34):
says this, and I'm saying that because you know the
script and the audio there are two different things. There's
a lot of you know, cutting and outing and shit
going on. But you know, like having it lined up
and you know, have the the volume just right like
I want to. Like that's that's another thing. Yes, Podcasting
and making videos so much work, Like you don't want

(24:57):
the audio to go over your voice, so that like
people are hearing the audio, but like okay, well what
is actually being Like I can hear him fatally in
the background, but what is he actually saying? So there's
there's that, And like with a lot of songs that
I'm using, like it goes from you know, like kind
of soft, and it builds up, it builds up, and

(25:18):
then there's just like this this spike you know when
it goes like boom ns and it's like okay, I
got gotta cut that audio like at that point, and
like have those level levels even and it's just so
much work. It's a lot of fun, but it's so
much work. And it's so much money as well that
goes into it. Yeah, with like just the subscriptions and

(25:41):
I kind of switched to two yearly subscriptions now, uh,
just so it doesn't add up at the end of
the month.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Oh oh yeah, I know. And I know in it
like a year ago, well a year ago, I was
preparing myself to go to Peru. But I still have
my trailer where I had all my setup in my
little in my little office, and I read light street
noises from a car or from a train or whatever,

(26:14):
like a beep or when you take a cup from
a machine that makes this sound. Then I recorded it
and I could but well I still can't. But but
I don't have the equipment right now available. But you
put it into my MIDI track. And then the final
thought was like, Okay, I'm gonna purchase myself with DJ equipment,

(26:39):
so I can put these sounds into that DJ equipment
and I'll make a sound song out of it. And
with that song, I can end it over with my guitar.
And the guitar nowadays, with the amplifiers and all the
pedals that you have, you can make so many sounds.
It's like immense incredible. So and I really digging it,

(27:02):
and I was doing it live. The funny thing is
also that the videos that are posted on my Disorganized
Productions YouTube, which are meditation that I made and some
music videos with my own you know, my own DJ
equipment and with my old pictures, they are more been
viewed than my podcasts. Although I thought like, people are

(27:26):
you know, you know, digging my podcast. I'm not complaining
at all because I'm going to get a lot of
more audience every single time when I'm pushing out an episode.
So but yeah, the thing to be always in that
for me, it's the zen moment. If I'm doing my
my positive thinking, my creativity is going to be like

(27:48):
level up. It could be early in the morning or
very late at night, but it gives me so much
energy to push the shit out. And it's so cool
to see when we were in Amsterdam that we had
this click together, you know, also with the things that
you do in and the things that you you know,

(28:09):
we're learning so much from each other, and we're learning
so much from the guests that we have.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
You were talking just before your Upjohn I was calling
Stein like hey, are you ready man, and he said like,
oh shit, here were scheduled and then he said like,
oh dude, I'll have my parents' house because I'm going
to bring him to skip Old tomorrow. So and you're
talking about all the schedules and all the things that

(28:38):
is going on, and just a message popped up that
I we'll have another podcast with Odin, which is a
guy from TikTok, which is a storyteller, and love his name.
I'm such a more righteous because you know the name Odin,
right yil to Odin your father, and talking about that,

(29:01):
I know you have some expertis in you that I
want to talk about in this podcast because we are
basically here in the Netherlands. I'm in the most part
of Limberg, which is a little bit older than the
places where you are. But the Germanic tribes have a lot,

(29:25):
a lot of history here in the Netherlands. Yeah. For example,
one of the things that we see on which I
want to visit is the Hunabe, the Huns, the who
Is which were also scattered in in in Uh in Germanica,
So the old German uh tribes. But how how far

(29:48):
does it does it go back when it comes to
the Heathen and the people that lived here before the
Romans took place?

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Gosh, that's a good that's a good question. Like I
think it really goes back. I want to say, like
at least till round about the the last Ice Age
a bit after that, so let's say probably like thirteen

(30:28):
twelve thirteen thousand years.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
When the.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
According to more mainstream science. At least there are different
theories and that of course you know there there's the
The more well known theory is the the Indo Europeans
or the Indo Aryans, which has nothing to do with
the funny mastache man. It's a term way older, you know,
coming from the from the the Inno European step Uh.

(31:01):
They were, they were step herders, they were you know,
no mats really so I mean you're about as class. Yeah, No,
I like actually uh and the the like Eastern Europeans
step uh nowadays would be I think like uh, Kazakhstan,

(31:27):
the Kazakhstan, Georgia, like Asia, Asia Minor like that that
neck of the woods, which is still Europe believe it
or not. M Like, we don't associate it with Europe
because like for most of us, Europe like pretty much
ends uh with uh or or like you know in

(31:51):
Russia or like at the Russian border or like the
Balkhan like that's Europe. No, like it goes way further,
you know, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Yah, going into I want to say,
like Armenia is still kind of European, Like it's not European,

(32:12):
it's not Asian. It's like the border countries there, right,
but they like made their way made their way west,
you know, and that that's also where you got the
uh where cultures, the bigger cultures, the the hunter gatherers,

(32:36):
you know, that's those like our our early early ancestors, right.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
They eventually settled in like in and around the the
Caucasus mountains, the Caucasus region. That's where you get the
term Caucasian from because that is literally where our our

(33:04):
ancestors came from. Or that's that's really the first place
that they actually settled to the best of my knowledge,
and like of course later later on over the thousands
of years, those became the you know, became the the

(33:25):
Germanic tribes, the like the Goths, the Goals, the Celts.
Celts and Goals are basically the same.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
And here in the Netherlands, it was actually the majority
of our country was part of Greater Germania. It was
just the the coastal regions. So let's say from I
think like pretty much like from Frisia going down the coast,

(33:59):
like just the strip probably also taking perhaps like just
the region where I live at the moment, like I
do live quite coastal right, they called the way down
to like at least Zealand. That was Frisia. Those were

(34:21):
the the Frieesians. Nowadays, of course it's you know, it's
just one province. But back in those days, thousands of
years ago, let's say this was like at least I
want to say, like five thousand plus years ago, like
that was the entire western coast of the Netherlands where

(34:46):
the Frisians all the rest was part of Greater Germania.
And it was actually later on I don't know, I
don't know exact timelines, very babble timelines actually, but it
was the Germanic tribes of the Goths, the actual Goths,

(35:12):
the Visigoths, who conquered Rome.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
So it was.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Well, let's say that that was like between I want
to say, like two thousand plus years ago at the
very least, uh, the Germanic tribes conquered Rome. They I mean,
Rome was already in a very weekend state, a very
weekend position. It wasn't the you know, the the the

(35:47):
power the powerhouse of the world basically that it was.
And they conquered Rome actually, so uh. And if you
the Goths are they were one of the bigger tribes.
You know, they're they definitely left their their you know,

(36:09):
their traces here in Europe also like the Goths of
the like the subculture that we.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Know now.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Can be related back to the Physicoths. But like you
have those incredibly beautiful Gothic cathedrals for example, like the
Gothic building style, you know, very very grand that was
you know, from the Goths, the goth Gothic really tribes

(36:43):
of Germania. And yeah, the Romans did have a very
large footholds in Europe as well. But here in the
Netherlands they really didn't go past the Rhine River because

(37:04):
I mean back then there was still you know, a
much larger river and very well quite par to cross
as well, and just a natural boundary, a natural Yeah,
the land.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
The land was much more as we know it here
in some regions that are still like Nimegen or here
in in in Limburg, which is much more forests. And
I know that there's a story the first real assassins
like the Black Seals of the Navy seals. But then

(37:38):
back in the days were the people from the Gothic
tribes that were basically in I think it was tutorial
world but that that's in between the somewhere around there.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
The Teutons tribes.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Or yes, they slaughtered like what the Germans did in
the Ardennes. They did that with the Romans. And the
Romans were basically on a.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
On a I I know, I know what you're what
you're talking about. They ambushed them.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Oh yeah, a lot, sorry you yeah, and we had
a very nice way of uh uh. You know. The
Romans had one problem that normally they they had sold
people that were you know, like.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
Checking the fields, get them sort of like spectator or
you know, investigators, scouts, yes, the scouts. But somehow in
these deep forests they couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And of course, when you live in a forest for
a long time, you know exactly what tree or what
what where you are. And they ambushed them a lot.
And which is very funny. What I what I just
recognized about what you were saying about the Rhine. If
you see, like Limberg, which we know now is a province,

(39:05):
there's still a big part of it is in Belgium
and still is a big part of Germany. And the
funny thing is the dialect that I speak is very
related to all these regions because it's quite a big region.
I mean, if you think that in consideration to the
rest of the Netherlands, it's very small pieces of provinces.

(39:30):
But the region of Limberg, which was in the early
days like the part of Germanica, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Huge, Yeah, no, absolutely, And the Limbergs dialects like it
can't be compared to any other dialect in the Netherlands,
like it is like yeah, indeed, like it's part Flemish,
it's parts German, it's part Dutch, it's part everything else.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
And you know, if we think, sorry, sorry, oh man,
I love this. If you take as you said, back
back in these days, right when we have these regions
and the Romans came and they never crossed the Rhine.
Were the pagans back in that time also worshiper of

(40:25):
the Nordic gods, like like, were they considered as a
pagan because they were, you know, having a god for
the land and having a god for the fertility like Freya,
having a god of thunder all that stuff, or were
they having a different approach of It's not religion, right,

(40:48):
it's a belief system, it's a it's a way of life.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, no, I I do believe that that was in
the time when Rome was still pagan although the the
the term pagan as we know it wasn't the thing
back down. I mean, like, yeah, it indeed like it

(41:17):
comes from from the rope from Latin uh paganas paganas uh,
you know, which means like lands dweller, or like at
the very least, a more derogative term of someone who
lives outside of the city. So I you know, uncouth, uncivilized, borish.

(41:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know I've been I've
been told a few times that, like, I shouldn't use
the term pagan to describe myself because it is such
a derogatory term.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
And I'm like, well, I'm you know, as my my
wife has told me many times as well. If you
don't name it, that's when you give it power. If
you avoid the name, that's when you acknowledge that the
name has power. So by naming it, by using the term,
I'm taking it back.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's easy explain. Also, it's easier to explain if people
are are asking for religion, which which is not. I
don't think Paganism is the religion. It's a way of
life like the druids, like the gay Lic, like the Celts.
They had a way of life to connect with Mother
Nature in whichever way. The new when the moon was

(42:37):
standing like this and that, now you have to put
the crops in the land. Now you have to harvest
all these things.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Is this hunter is June, the harvest the right like
the hair moon. They really get they you know, that
was the Yeah, that's that's you know, when they knew
what to saw. It's when they knew when to sew.
It's when they you know, when they knew to to harvest.

(43:05):
It's when they uh, you know, like looking at looking
at the stars, position of the stars and looking at
the lands, you know as above so below, which really
is just it's an ancient concept, not even a card.
It's ancient.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
They they knew when the seasons passed, They knew when
another year had passed or however they called it back then.
At least you know that the we went full circle
again because.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
You know, yeah, we were living basically exactly as we
should live, with the with the tempo, with the with
the seasons, with nature. What he tried to do, in
my opinion, with religion, is to take us off from that,
from that perspective, from that, from that way of life,

(44:01):
because then they could inductrinate us with other stuff like
be careful because the gods they made up some new
gods are watching you. And I think that you totally
I agree with that, like which you see it set
in the podcast where Derek std like, oh, it's a

(44:23):
son of God and it's God and it's surprised. What
what the hell is it? Now? I mean that that's what, uh,
let's say the Norse mythology has different kind of views
when it comes to religion because they have multiple gods.
Now comes a trigger. This is a great thing they found.

(44:46):
So I did a podcast with Dario Andrella, which is
a Spanish no sorry, Italian guy, and he has a
friend who is translating the old scriptures in the Vatican
and he figured out that Alo Him is not one God,
but multiple gods. It's plural. So that's what the state,

(45:12):
for the lack of a better word, the Pagans did,
and that's what they woven into Christianity to give them
like a marketing trick to get the people from the
Latin to a religion. Because we still have a lot
of influences of the Northern mythology in our nowadays life,

(45:35):
Monday is at the moon, Tuesday is Teer, the god
of war from us. We got owed in on Wednesday,
vote on. Hey that's Voton. Here's my dog, that's Voton.
We got Thursday, or we got Friday, Frier so and
then Saturn and Sun and Sunday, which speaks for themselves.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
The Saturn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Would without the being in range rituals like Eastern and Christmas.
It never been mentioned in the Bible because why would
you mention something that's against your belief system.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
I mean, they were feast days because they they you know,
every ancient culture ever really you know, they they recognized,
they recognized the solstices, they recognized when you know, a
new time was upon us. So yeah, they they you know,

(46:38):
at least the big four let's say, you know, winter, Solstice, Spring, summer, Autumn. Uh,
they recognize those absolutely. I mean look outside. If you
want to deny them, I mean you gotta be blind, deaf, dumb,
not able to feel whatever, just like not be alive basically. Uh,

(47:01):
or I don't know, like some some vegetable in the
hospital back somewhere. So yeah, they they definitely acknowledged it,
and they you know, get probably celebrated. That's why uh,
you know Christmas, for example, why the church. Uh, it's
it's really it's organized religion. It's not you know, Christianity

(47:24):
and of itself because that really started. It didn't start
out monotheistic. It started out as more of a mystery religion.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
You know, because the the Christ, that the figure Christ
that we that we know, he was rebellious. He was
rebelling against the state. He was rebelling against you know,
just any really set established of government. Uh. So I

(48:00):
mean you could say like Christ was more like you know,
more and more like Jacovada than you know, like your
your peace loving hippie. Oh yes, yes, by the comparison
to make um, but you know, no, it's the it's
the the return of the sun as as you and

(48:21):
because after the winter solstice at like the twenty twenty first,
that's when the days grow longer again. And the Romans
already had their feast day of Saturnalia on the twenty fifth,
so in the you know, the the twelve days of Yule,

(48:42):
the twelve days of Christmas. Because even back I'm gonna say,
like one hundred years ago, maybe last there were actual
twelve days of Christmas and not just the two that
we get now. May That's that's why the song is like,
you know, on the first day of Christmas and then
like all the way to the twelfth, because there were
twelve days of Christmas, because those are twelve days of

(49:04):
Yule starting at the summer solstice and usually ending around
the sixth of January where I was going with, So, yeah,
it's but so of course, you know Jesus or Christ,
the Christ figure being the light in the world, you know,

(49:27):
that is his his birth, like that is when you know,
light came back into this world. But because the the
the Church that the dogmatic religious organized organization known as
the Church or the Catholic Church, Christian Church, Vatican basically

(49:53):
or what became the Vatican, you know, they personified it.
They they made it into like an actual physical story,
like something that actually happened. And I'm not saying that
it never happened. I'm not saying that the figure of

(50:13):
Christ never existed. I'm sure he did, you know, but
not in the way that the books that the the
the Dogma tells us that he does. Uh. And that's
why you know, like we we still celebrate Easter with

(50:37):
you know, with spring because like that's it's it's a
fertility feast. That's when nature comes back to life. That's
why the symbolism of of the egg to represents the CHILITYA.
That's why we use bunnies because you know, reading like
bunnies and they come out so like if but that's

(51:00):
really that's ancient, that's pagan, if you will. So it's
really odd for the church, the the you know, the
the organized religion to use such ancient imagery.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Again also with you know, the Father, the Son, and
the Holy Ghost. It's the holy Trinity, like they called
it holy Trinity, but we have like there are so
many other holy trinities. You know, even Odin himself votes
on himself was part of what you could call a
holy trinity. That's also where we get the the where

(51:37):
we get the symbol fund from like the the triangles
it again the vaulk nut uh.

Speaker 8 (51:43):
Yeah, supposedly that is like it's it's basically three v's
which stands for Voden, Villi and Vayu, the three brothers
that created our world out of the the body of
the martial eyes giant Emia.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
And it was Boden Boden, Bodon botan Odin. He is
the one that or with his brothers. They you know,
they gave us life, they created us, they breathed life
into us. So that story is still the same. Like

(52:24):
that's basically also the Adam and Eve story. But that's
what so many other religions, so many other spiritual paths,
belief systems, they all have an origin story basically having
to do with man is created, you know, either by
the gods or through the gods, or you know, we're

(52:46):
all part of a like we all have a divine bits,
divine spark in us. We all have a flat myth.
Like ny may want culture around the world that doesn't
have a flood myth. I don't know of any now
that I know all the cultures in the world, but
the ones that I do know of, they have a

(53:07):
flood myth. It's just in Germanic mythology is during reckn Rock,
during you know, the battle of the gods, you know.
And also it's another funny thing, if you uh, the
symbolism fucking love symbolism. When you think about the Germanic

(53:33):
creation story basically, or how our walth came into being.
If we were talking about the the voids, Gunga Gap
is what it's called. It was the prime the realm
of primordial ice Mustbelheim and the row realm of primordial
fire Nippelheim came together in Ganunga Gap in the void.

(53:57):
It's that's really It's basically like true circles coming together.
And what do you get? You get the vesica pis
and what is the vesica pisces. It's also female bits.
So it's the I want to keep someone somewhat clean.
I know, it's just it's just biology, I know, but
I know I know that.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it was were the like you
could say, the.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
This sounds really weird. I've never described it like this before,
but the primordial vagina that our world was birthed really right, right.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So, and you know that there's there's so many things
that I digged into because of my interest into the stuff,
and I really like the symbolic things like the ruins,
which we discussed and and if people that are listening
like that, listen to the show that Stein has with

(55:02):
Sarah Lath. I had a show with Sarah Latht too.
You know everything about ruins, dude, Mine, like Carr's name's Rocknar.
I called him that, and the rack now and me
we're going on the path of an adventure. But I
figured out not that long ago what the letters mean.

(55:23):
And if you ask, well, for example, Shady Pato, google
what does the ruin signature of Rocknar means? It's lining
up exactly how my life is right now, with the adventure,
with the with the with the quest, with the well

(55:44):
call it wisdom or the things that I want to
give to the world. It's so it's it's lining up
for me perfectly. And I know that you have On
the first of April, what do you do, then, Stein,
On the first of April, April falls day, what do
you do?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I mean, that's that's the it's the return of spring.
That's when we're like when we're right past the solstice.
It's when the you know, the in the region here,
that's when all the all the flowers come back to life.
It's when the flower fields start start blooming like a
new year. I mean, yeah, that's that's right, that's the

(56:28):
that's on the solstice. Yeah, that's that's the the spring equinox.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
So so I don't know if you are are the
same having the same opinion. So I think, I think,
I'm not thinking. I know that we have thirteen moons
in one year. If you see the moon cycles, it's
twenty eight days, the same as a cycle of a woman.

(56:55):
So if you count these days together, you have three
hundred and sixty four days and then one day which
has a normal year, three on a sixty five. What
is that day? That's the beginning of a new year.
Because if you go out on the thirty first of
December to wish each other happy New Year, it's cold,

(57:16):
it's windy, it's foggy, it's a fuck that thing outside.
There's no life outside. It's dark, it's it's only black
one white. But if you go out like I do
as a pagan or a druid or whatever you're gonna
call it, on the first of April, the birds are singing,
everything is turned to green, flowers are blooming.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
It.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
That's this real celebration that they don't want us. And
that's also a part of the propaganda and the indoct nation.
In my opinion, that not only the Church, but the
Three Seas so I heard that you called that on
Stid and I was thinking about it today when it
was listening to the episode. Basically, the world has been

(58:05):
ruled by pree seas. That's the church, that's the capital,
and that's the cunt of Vagina. These three things rule
the world well. But the thing is, since I've been

(58:27):
lining up with this, this this belief system, like I am,
I am the God itself, I got a God particle,
and I am basically Jesus Christ uh. And we can
shine our light when we do the right things, we
can shine our light to the world and the world
will see it. But that's a little bit of the

(58:48):
Bible story. But since I've been lining up with the
ruins and with the mythology and all that stuff, it
all comes together for me. It's all is like, wow,
is this really exactly for me how it is and
how it feels right?

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Because that's that's actual nature.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
That is how we are.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Supposed to be living. It's how we have lived for
thousands and thousands of years, you know. I mean, if
you want to go about that far, hundreds of thousands
of years even right like especially with the natural cycles
like you mentioned before, like you know, especially around this

(59:39):
time of year, at least at the northern hemisphere. You know,
it's we're we're halfway through September. You know, it's about
it's about nine pm. It's dark already, you know, so yeah,
it's only natural that your body is like, hey, it's dark.

(01:00:00):
There really are there really are no more things that
we can do in the dark, because you know, we're
not able to uh to see in the dark or
not as well as uh. You know, certain animals are
like my cats, for example, and you know, also in
the dark, there are predators, like they're like just overall

(01:00:20):
in the world, there are predators. And because we don't
see as well in the dark, those predators they do
so we don't see them, but they see us. Therefore,
dark is dangerous. So it's better to just stay indoors,
stay in a just a safe environment away from pat predators,

(01:00:43):
you know, whether it be in in a cave, somewhere
high up, a you know, a hut, a home, whatever,
a save environment. You know, get rest because you know
you're body needs to needs to rest, needs to recharge,

(01:01:04):
and it does that best. And you know, like what's
the best time to do that. Well, when all the
other scary beings are outside and we can see them.
So when you know, when the sun comes up again,
it's like okay, we're rested, and now we can you know,
we can see what is out there. We can go hunt,
we can go scavenge, we can go you know, gather.

(01:01:26):
We can see the predators, so we know either too,
I don't know, like be the bigger predator or just
you know, run the fuck away. So yeah, that's that's
only natural. And like you said it already, like by
by you know, nine pm, ten pm, your body is
just like okay, it's just you know, time to wind down,

(01:01:49):
time to relax, and it is indeed, you know, artificial
lights and especially blue light from our computers, from our phones,
that is keeping us awake artificially. Well that's that's not
that's not natural. It's not our natural rhythm. I mean,
oh are there's like those are the see the blue

(01:02:11):
light blockers on nice man?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yes, these are the orange things. So it's really funny
because I got a light which is a very bright
led light, but now it's yellow, so I look like
azig now. So that's why I don't wear hobedy and
I but I will I will wear them probably when
I'm gonna edit podcasts. Yeah, the thing is just like

(01:02:35):
you said. Yeah, But I figured something out while I
was in in l A by with the with Milton.
I got this. I did a lot of meditation before
I went to l A in Arizona, in the middle
of the desert and in Sedona.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
And I figured out the three six nine way of flying.
And what I mean with that is if I take
to power nap, if I'm on the road, I'm a
lot on the road for my job. And when I
feel a little bit tired, I put the car aside
on the parking spot. I put the alarm clock in
thirty minutes. Yeah, I swear to God, I do my

(01:03:17):
little meditation. I fall asleep or just being, you know,
blocked off from all the influences that I have normally
on my on my nep on my eyeside, so within
these So after thirty minutes alarm clock's ringing, I'm open
up my eyes, I start a car and a drive
because I'm fit again. So's thirty minutes, sixty minutes or

(01:03:40):
nineteen minutes, which is normally a very good spot. And
that's what a lot of people do when they have
you know, like long shifts like crab fissures and stuff
like that. They have light. Yeah, so you're take a
nap for thirty sixty or ninety minutes, but it goes
farther than that. Let's say at nine o'clock at night,

(01:04:03):
I can go to sleep for nine hours. It's six
o'clock in the morning when I wake up. Yeah, nor
six o'clock. Take down another nine hours, or another six hours,
another three hours. It all lines up perfectly with six, three,
nine all the time. If you are into that kind

(01:04:25):
of rhythm, it suits you very well because even with
a little bit of sleep, you still have the most
potent volume of sleep or rest as what you need. Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
Like now I'm also thinking like if we're just counting,
I mean that it yeah, it makes it eighteen hours.
It's little all perhaps, but like three hours of like
very intensive hard work. It's like that's also what I
noticed with like physical training, for example, like I can, yeah,

(01:05:07):
I can do three hours, like I'm absolutely fucking done
after three hours. Like that's absolute, absolute max. So you know,
like three hours of you know, just hard work, real
intensive whatever, then six hours of like maybe some you
know mild mild work or just you know, like for example,

(01:05:29):
if you if you do like hunting, gathering, whatever, go
as hard as you can for three for three hours, uh,
prap everything for you know, the remaining six then you know,
like rest and sleep for for night. Because that's also
one thing that I don't really understands. It's like, you know,

(01:05:51):
so that what's really pushed on us is like eight
hours of sleep, Like you need eight hours of sleep.
You usually like I feel a little better with like
nine hours of sleep or like a little past eight
hours of sleep, because that's when my my body has
a natural tendency to wake up, Like eight hours of sleep,

(01:06:14):
I need to send in alarm, like after nine or.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
So hours, my body is like waking up. Yeah, you know,
we're good and good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
And then I swear, now I need a bit to
you know, to get going. You know, if I like
really want to take my time and get everything nice
and prepared. If I if I can't, I do I
do take like three hours you know, just you know
wake up then like don't like hop out of bed
immediately and go do stuff. No, like you wake up,

(01:06:48):
go slow, take your time, you know, shower or as
my my dad likes to like to say, you know,
shower shit and schafe, uh right, love you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
It as do my intentions every single day. Yeah when
it wakes up. Yeah, trying to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
Take if you have to talk, like you can take
those three hours to you know, like wake up, do
your meditations, do your you know, your shower shit and shavee,
have your breakfast. Then you can you know, like then
you can do the work for you know, for a
good six hours, and you like you can do that,
you know with the the podcast or my videos or whatever.

(01:07:32):
It's it's a full day usually that I'm like that
I'm working on it. Then like nine hours in those
nine hours you can now like you can rest, you
can do the you know, the things that you you
you want to do, and then you have well then
you you know, you still have a bit of free
time left and you can choose whatever to do with it.
So I do believe that you know, three six and

(01:07:54):
nine now you know now that you're mentioning it, like
like bring gets working, Like it could also be like
just the the hours in a day that we're supposed
to do something like from you know, like very like
either take it slow than intensive to uh, you know,
like build off or like starting start intensive, a little

(01:08:18):
less intensive, and then like take it easy. I do
feel that there's there's something in the natural rhythm about
that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Yeah, and especially if you take these eight hours for consideration, Uh,
they're not natural. They take you off the r M sleep,
So you're basically waking up in the middle of your sleep. Yeah,
if you take that instead of let's see, you can't
sleep nine hours because of work. If you take six hours,

(01:08:49):
your body is waking up already because you got these
flows in sleep, right, So you got a very fast
sleep and you have a very light sleep, and you
have your dream state. That's why I love when I'm
waking up, I know that I still have more than
an hour before I have to go to work. I
just take ten to fifteen minutes with my eyes closed,

(01:09:12):
still in this dream state. Like what do I want
to achieve today? Where am I grateful for? Like the
little things? Not like I want to have this, I
want to have that. No, I have a perfect car,
thank you for that. I have the freedom to work.
I have the ability and the strength and the help

(01:09:33):
to work that brings in money. I'm very grateful for that,
or it gives me new networking contexts. I'm very grateful
for that. I got the knowledge and the time to
do whatever I want with the podcasting, with the editing,
I figure stuff out. I like to be, you know,
learning things. But I'm also grateful, like, like, wow, when

(01:09:57):
I step out of the car, it didn't rained anymore.
So I can take a pee without getting wet. Because
if you live on a car, you basically you don't
go to the well, you go to the toilet. But
it's you know, the world is the stage. It's a
little different, and the world's my garden too, and basically
it's my hope. So but these little things. And the

(01:10:21):
other day was starting to rain here in the Netherlands
after a very long period of sun, and we were
living in an Olans, so people were complaining. I was thinking, like,
you know, how much grateful the trees and the birds
and all the flora fauna was living up because there

(01:10:42):
was finally some water. And then after the like the
long summer that we had, Wow, we had it was
through Pegana al Hollandia. Dude, we had temperatures over thirty degrees,
multiple strokes. I don't have weeks, you know that. Yeah,

(01:11:02):
Like wow, I don't know about you. But when I
was a child and I was went to school with
my bike, with my bush bike, it was in the
in the summertime. It was still like fourteen fifteen degrees
in the morning, which was really risky, and then afternoon

(01:11:27):
maybe the temperatures were rising till twenty one, twenty three,
twenty five degrees was like, I mean, what was.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Twenty five was like already considered, Like you know, you
better stay in or you go. You're you're gonna burn
you a Chris right. I forget I was thirty five. Yeah,
like we've had a few summers where we're up to
like thirty thirty five. And like I I you know,
I used to be used to be a chef, used
to be a cook, and especially in the summers, Like

(01:11:58):
you know, I worked a lot of beach clubs. I
worked a lot of catering, outdoor catering. Holy shit, man,
Like I remember one summer I was working at a
at a beach club. I mean, just because you know,
there's always work there in the summer, and it's you know,
especially if you're freelance, it's good money. Like I I, well,

(01:12:22):
I lost sweat. I lost sweat faster than like I
could drink the water. And like I I remember, just
like especially the first day, I'm didn't go to the
bathroom for the entire day because whatever, you know, whatever
I drank, I sweat out pretty much right away, right

(01:12:47):
and this becomes, you know, more normal than it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Used to be.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Yeah, like that, I always say, I do remember like
a few hot summers, but never like this. No.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
So I was in Sedona this year, Arizona, in the
middle of the desert, and when I came home, and
it was so when I was in Flagstaff, uh, there
was snow. I never thought about snow in America, but
that was probably my my, my, my little vision of

(01:13:22):
America because of course you got the up the region
of side with the rocky mountains and stuff like that
way Lanta in when Atlanta in in New York, there
was snow all over the place. So yes, okay, I
got it. East Coast, you know, New York, Detroit, all
that stuff. It's it's cold, But when it was in Sedona, Arizona,

(01:13:43):
you don't think it's cold, but it was like really
really cold that night. And eventually I got a picture
from Donna, I think a strong after I was back
home from Cactus with snow because it was snowing in

(01:14:04):
the desert. So yes, you have the elevation because Flagstaff
is higher up, so it's colder. But like getting snow
in Arizona, like what, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
Yeah, Mozille said's shifting. Yeah, but that's also a thing
about the desert that is so incredibly interesting because there
is no like no real vegetation there to like either
suck up the heat or you know, like beat out
the colts. So yeah, like during the during the day,

(01:14:38):
you know, in certain places, certain deserts. I've been fortunate
enough to travel a lot with my parents already, so
we spent at least one night with the Bedouin in
in Jordan, and that was righty cool, that was really cool.
And during the day like yeah, hey, god hot, like
I'm talking thirty five forty, you know at least, but

(01:15:03):
at night, you know, clear skies, you know, just I
mean incredibly beautiful first of all, but it can really
really cold because there's also nothing to to trap the heats.
There's nothing to fight the cold. Well, you know, it's
just it's sand and sand doesn't. I mean the top layers. Yeah,

(01:15:27):
but you know the first you know, go past the
top layer, there's nothing there. This is as a result there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
This is a reminder for everyone who wants to travel
the world, and please do if you go to a desert,
never ever put food on the ground, like oh, I
just peel an orange or an apple and I'm gonna
leave it here because they're gonna stay there forever. So

(01:15:57):
we have creators like rats and mouses and all that
stuff that picks up the food in the desert is
going to stay there for ample. Yeah, and it's it's
it's it's such a so so. Yes that it was
getting cold in the desert for sure, but that is
going to snow in the desert. And we have this

(01:16:20):
really strange things happening all over the world. I think
it was last year when it snowed in Florida, Like dude,
people were just like I'm in the state of Florida
and it's snowing. If there's something that you know, like oh,
you want to go to my sunny weather, go to Florida, right.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
Like it is literally the sunshine state.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
That that's the sunshine state with with when it's sending
me to the snow, like, hell, yeah, that's I think
that it's a very normal pattern from Mother Gaya, yeah,
mother Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
It's a cycle. We're coming at a hand of a cycle. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
But everything they want to put us up with their
let's call it an agenda, whatever the fuck is from
the things that you don't know you can or you
don't see it, or it's just always been around and
they can they can use it as a claim for
their stupidity.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Like especially with the like the rising of the of
the sea, rising of the ocean and whatever. We're Dutch,
like half of our country is below sea level. If
the sea level would have risen as much as they
kept telling us for like the last forty fifty years,
as it would the town that I live in, like

(01:17:53):
it's very it's very coastal. I mean we're not like
we're not like at the coast, but you know, like
one two towns over, you know, we're at the beach.
I would be able to live there or I you know,
would be forced to become an aquatic human.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Not only that, think about the insurance and the bags.
So let's say you want to have a loan of
Let's say the house in the Netherlands are crazy right now,
like five hundred thousand euros for a stupid house in
the coastal line. Do you think that the insurance companies
and the banks were to take a risk if that's
going to be flooded. Oh no, And a lot of

(01:18:39):
people do not know. Stein that probably one fifth or
maybe one sixth of the Netherlands wasn't there forty fifty
years ago they dried up with the sea.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
We created an entire province back in the what is
the seventies, Yeah, like we decided we need more lines,
so we created more lines.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Yeah, man, finally it's good. They were good at it.
So we had one really big flooding problem in fifty
three or.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Fifty two, uh fifty three in Zaleng.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, three xylons. Yeah. So there was a dike that
broke and it was not a girl and it was
a real dike. Sorry for that, but it flooded like
I think almost a quarter of the Netherlands. But yes,
just like you say, so, we got NAP level, which

(01:19:45):
is called New Amsterdam level translated a New Armsterdam spell,
which is basically the the C level.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
And that's the zero points basically that's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Zero a point yeah. Yeah. And we're most cities, especially
where you live in that region, are under sea level.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
So if the sea is really good a few meters yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yes, not like oh you're gonna have dry feet, no, no, theme.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
If the if the dikes break like yeah, like you said,
like you know, it's not just all I better get
my you know, no, better get my boots.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
You know, it's just like oh, you know, good what feet?

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
No, it's like if she's gonna break here, I mean
good yeah, Dan, like good thing. I know how to
swim Buthow. I'm gonna have to move quite literally because
my house would be just.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Gone, yeah, gone gone. And the region where I live,
which is much more south, we have the mass and
the river, and that's going to be flooded every single
well a few years. I've been working in a place
called van Low back in the nineties, and it's the
mass flooded and the whole city of Vanlow, and not

(01:21:08):
only Venlo, but all the cities that are basically on
the on the shoreline of the of the of the river.
They're flooded, like the cellars and all that stuff. Dude,
that's a that's a big problem man. Yeah, yeah, because
you can't start water when it's rising. Maybe it's more
devastating that well, it's just as devastating as fire. I

(01:21:30):
mean you both almost well you can't you can't care water.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
They're equal opposite forces. I'd say. Fire is really it's
really fast, Like the damage it does, it's just you know,
it's it's there and it's gone and everything is just
fucking done.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Water leaves.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
It's like it's also very destructive, you know, like if
if a wave comes trying oh you know, but I
look at the tsunami, the damage afterwards and like over
the years is greater. So it's it's longer lasting i'd
say with water. So that in that way they're like
equal opposite forces, both as destructive, but in a in

(01:22:20):
a very different way. Because like as as everybody knows
who you know, like went out for a swim or
you know, has made like a canfire or a bonfire
or whatever. Fire leaves nothing, like nothing anything that can
use as fuel. It'll use as fuel, and all that

(01:22:42):
is left is ashes. But like if a if a
dam or a dyke or whatever breaks in, the water
comes flooding in. It's so it's a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
It is so strong you can't so you put stop
a fire, we can't start water, you can't start well there,
you know, we got the sand sacks to to to
build a little dyke to prevent from coming in. But
when it's rising from from from from under, you're not
going to stop. And it's really funny, really funny because

(01:23:15):
the opposite is the track of course. So you ken't
put out fire with water, and you can evaporize water
with fire.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
Yeah, did you know you have the house at the
like the big forest fires, they literally fight fire with fire,
you know, but they ConTroll it like they they control
burn certain pieces like in front of the fire, like

(01:23:46):
where the major fire hasn't come yet, so they create
like a natural border really where the fire stopped because
there is no there is no fuel there anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Yeah, that's why they build forces here, which are I
think it's it's not that big. So it's like fifteen
percent of the melons has forests if you look in
the overall fifteen percent, which is quite big for a country,
to be honest, for a little country that we have.
But the thing is they build like these uh roads

(01:24:22):
call it roads, they call it so the fire can
step over. So just like you said, there's no fuel,
there's no fuel, So it's eventually depends on how the
how everything goes with the wind of course, with all
the elements. But yeah, it's really it's really fascinating how

(01:24:44):
the Nelons has been built off and what kind of
history that the Nelons has been going through, and especially
when we see what's happening right now. Because the people
that are generations long took taking care of this land
and providing almost the whole world of food, they wouldn't

(01:25:07):
get these people off the farmers, which is of course
a little bit of political thing, but that's also the
little power thing that we talked about before, like the
Vatican and the induct nation of religions and all that stuff.
And what we see right now on the world stage

(01:25:29):
is like, grab your beer and your popcorn and enjoy
the show because it's such a big fuck up. If
you can see through the lies right now, you're basically
just like, you know, yeah, what did you say in
the beginning? Like a vegetable at the hospital? Right you know,
you're just like, what the hell is going on with

(01:25:50):
you people? If you don't figure out now that are
it's the end of times, of the of the of
the the devil or whatever, because a lot of yeah,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
That's the thing with like so many religions, so many
belief systems, you know, like that's that's it's literally how
I how I started my podcast with a few roundtables
on Retner Rock and like the end times in the
different like religions or religious books and all of that.

(01:26:26):
It's a hell of a way to kick off a podcast,
by the way, Like I'm gonna start a podcasting, like
just do hour long roundtables where I get from everyone together.
It's like a right, look at the longest I did
was six plus hours, Like it was the whole Mac
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yeah, dude, I.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
Think that was like the proper setup that I do
now with. I mean, I'm you know now in my
my dad's study, but like now at home, like I
have like the the you know, the gaming chair that know,
every good streamer as I have, you know, like a
good mic and a good cam and all of that. No,

(01:27:06):
I was working with fucking bare and minimum, like I
have my laptop I had. I don't, I don't. I
don't think I even had like a separate webcam like
I was using the webcam from my my laptop.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Laptop.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Yeah, okay, what was it like a thirty euro mic
or something that I plugged into my laptop with just
this this shitty USB cable, right, wooden chair, like just
would straight wood. I keuld put a cushion on it.
But it's after six hours like oh thus, oh my
my ass. Right, that's how I started my show. That's

(01:27:44):
how I started doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Man, oh man, I recognize a lot of things because yeah,
I started the same thing, and but then I had
all the gear and I still got the gear about
my My gaming chair is now every single day suited
with my nephew or my niece who are playing on
uh not on my Xbox, but on an Xbox that

(01:28:08):
I did. So it had so many hours of work
and now I got it all very compact and thanks
to technology that I can do it with my cam.
And thanks to all the sponsors of my show that
allow me to do this, and shout out to yours

(01:28:28):
who provided me this phone because he said, dude, you
you need to have like the capacity to get your
content out on a good you know, somehow value valuable way.
And the things that I was running with, not with
my computer. That was quite slow, but it was quite good.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
When it comes to the quality. Now, of course I'll rumble.
Probably some people will not look at me because it's
like six forty or something like, because it's the phone
that's recording. But the thing is, we still can.

Speaker 5 (01:29:03):
Do this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
While we're here with the really the minimum. This is
just my phone. This is a led light and I'm
sitting in the best chair ever. It's it's a it's
a level chair for Volvo. I mean, come on. But
the thing is, oh yeah, oh my car goes through walls. Man,
this this is I love rock nart.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
But the thing is, if you take in consideration that
like twenty years ago, if you would talk to someone
who was doing podcasts or doing music and doing his
own production or videos, that would be a producer, right,
might sell with a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Of twenty months ago, twenty years ago you had you
had talk radio, or like at best maybe twenty years ago,
like at my teas like you you had like pirate
radio perhaps, yes, that yeah, that's how it got started,

(01:30:10):
that's for sure. Yeah, true pirates you know way out
in in international waters like that, yeah, that was like
now that grog radio but no, that that was like
twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
And it was no, no, it's longer. So so twenty
five now, I think that radioa on the sea when
they were real parts, it was like.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
In the seventies, seventies, eighties, yeah, something like yeah, yeah,
it was forty years.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Already in man the time time is it is just
a human construct, but it's still flying and it's really funny,
and it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
Faster as well, like it's it's been it's been proven.
My my life actually told me that the other day
that like a over the I don't know how many
years I have to ask her again, but over like ah,
I was. I believe it was like ten, ten, maybe
twenty years. Like a second, no longer takes a second,

(01:31:14):
it's shorter. Time actually goes faster now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
So I mean we're talking with the end of times. Yeah,
I mean we.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Are there, we are at you know, we are in
the calor Yuga. We are in the the well spiritual
iron age, if you will. This is the apocalypse, but
like the literal apocalypse, you know, the lifting of the veil,
not the end. Yeah, yeah, we know, it's like not

(01:31:49):
the physical end like Hollywood's death and destruction. U.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
No, the age of Aquarius kas Cris harmony is right
now and we're in the middle of the eye of
the storm in the middle. You can see that. And
it's really funny that you brought it up, because it's
not It's the thing is, I saw someone who posted

(01:32:14):
something and is really intriguing me, and it's really interesting.
So we were talking about before the three six nine
and how unnatural the times are that we have to
work and stuff like that, you know why, And it's
really really it was mind blowing. There's only daytime right now,

(01:32:38):
from like seven o'clock in the morning when the sun
comes up until maximum eight thirty and then the sun
comes down. That is one day because the night, just
like you described a few seconds ago, is we can't
do anything normally. We have to rest or you know

(01:33:00):
ever compensates you with.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
No. Nighttime is not work time. Nighttime is oh rest
nighttime is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
You Yes, But if you take to encounter or to
the equation that okay, so our daytimes is from six
to let's say nine for in the example, it's thirteen
twelve to thirteen hours. If you would put up eight
hours of work in that daytime, you would say, like

(01:33:31):
what the hell, I'm not going to divide my whole
day or eighty percent of work. But because they took
the night with it, they say, being at twenty four
hours in the days is only eight hours of work.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Yeah, and especially when I like back when I used
to work in the h in the kitchen, like those
were like you know sometimes thirteen fourteen hour days if
I was like very unlucky, especially in the winter, like
I'd go to work when it was still dark and
I'd come home when it was dark. Yes, like but

(01:34:05):
there were times that I barely saw any you know, daylight,
Like some may I be like way back in the kitchen,
like through the windows in front of the restaurant, but.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
You know that was that was about it. And at
likes not normal and it happens not.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
Yeah even that's my very job. Yeah, oh yeah for sure.
Like with my current job, I have to like I
have to be well because I work in a penitentiary,
so like I still have to go through like the
medical detector and act ray and whatever. So they they

(01:34:45):
say like if you really like really want to be
in time, be there at six thirty in the morning.
Like I'm not a morning person anyway, which is going
to be hell of fun because tomorrow, you know, as
you said at the beginning of the show, I'm taking
my parents to the airport, so we have to get
up at over fifteen. I know, I hate it already,

(01:35:11):
but like especially like in the in the summertimes. I mean,
I still hate it because it's way too early, but
then at least you know, it's light when I wake up,
and it's it's like the sun is like pretty much
like up up when I get to work. I'm noticing
now already, like and I was starting to notice that
in uh in August already, like it was still you know, dark,

(01:35:38):
semi dark when I got up, and like you know
that the sun came up as I went to work.
Now it is still dark when I get to work. Yes,
and that's it doesn't feel doesn't feel right. And also
like you know that the thing is you know, the
the eight hour word day, eight hours of sleep. You know,

(01:36:01):
they they figured like well a day, like an entire
day at malth as we see in the Netherlands. Now
it's twenty four hours, so you know, like you got
eight hours of sleep. You got eight hours of work,
and then you still have like eight hours of do
whatever the fuck you want. But what they don't take

(01:36:21):
into accounts is, for example, like travel to work. Oh no,
I mean I only have to have to drive like
an half hour to work, but two and back that's
already an hour. And that goes like off the the
eight hours of free time that I have. Then I still,

(01:36:43):
you know, I want to get out of my work clothes.
So you know that's what another fifteen minutes, thirty minutes
I'm saying in half now with shouting, I eat to
online from work, get into my normal clothes and whatever.
And like also imagine all the people that, yeah, they've
already worked eight hours, but then they're no, it's expected

(01:37:08):
from them that if something comes up, they work like
another one or two hours at home. So that takes
the workday from eight hours to you know, nine ten hours,
and they do whatever the fuck you want to six hours.
And in those hours, you gotta spend time with your family,

(01:37:28):
you know, maybe you have I don't know, Like you
gotta look, you got you gotta walk, you gotta walk
the dog, you gotta do your groceries, your laundry, you're washing,
you're cooking whatever. That's still like work, but it's housework,
but it's still worked. Like you're not doing nothing. So
take out all of that into consideration, and what do

(01:37:49):
you have left?

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Four hours? They just don't complainely pay you for the
bullshit golf. I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
Freaking sign if I'm home, I'm home, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Oh well, you know how this as this comes up,
we expect you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
No. No, if I'm working, if I have to do
this outside of work, fucking pay me for it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
We had it was I think back in the in
the nineties, we had a thing that's called that. It
was a plan that they wanted to roll out and
it was like to get rid of all the traffic
jams in the Netherlands because it's hell, especially where you

(01:38:34):
live in the area. It's like, yeah, you have like
a fifteen minute drive. If you have to go to
ship Hall at like seven o'clock, be there and get
it eight o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
We strolled allside of God like you think got into
consideration if it's like an operas.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Yeah, So the thing is they wanted to introduce flexible
working times. So you can get there at six o'clock
until nine o'clock at work. So you have basically some
people say like I want to be early at work.
Some people have to drive their kids to school and
then go to work. So you have more or less

(01:39:09):
people on the road that are stuck to go to
the nine to five job, because that's what it's called
a nine to five job. Here comes the thing. Back
in the nineties, they did not have the technology as
they have now, and the big company said, like, we
can't control that, and it's too expensive for the people
that are taking care of the salaries to figure out

(01:39:32):
who was in the right place on the right time
and how many hours did they made, so they skip that.
So that's where we're all stuck from seven o'clock in
the morning until let's say eight point thirty with fully roads,
and the same thing goes from five o'clock until seven sometimes.

(01:39:52):
And do not take in consideration the road works that
they have right now, all the biggest roads that nets everything.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
Yeah, especially especially here on the like the A A four,
A forty four highway, which is like the main artery
is like it goes from Amsterdam today, which is like
it's only like one of the major arteries in the
attire comstead.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
You know that's and did they took some work works
now on the A sixty and seventy six from uh,
let's say, from well basically from venlow two to inintoven
A seventy three. So I'm just start too, it's yes,
so they want us to be on time. And and
what I figured out Stein, I don't know if you

(01:40:38):
have the same perception about that. Every single time when
we go into like a vacation mode or a holiday
mode that everybody's going to be on holiday, they break
up all the fucking roads, like, oh you have a
good time with your kids in the car that there
complaining of whining always still are you already there? And
they have the traffic jams all over the place.

Speaker 5 (01:41:02):
Yeah, but that is also uh, there is a there's
a good reason for that. And it's not just to
bully us. Uh not not just to pully us. That
has to be part of it, for sure, But it's
like when everything well, you know, other duchies will have
to pully each other, ah, especially if we get paid
to do it. Yeah, but like when everyone is on vacation,

(01:41:27):
when like behalf of the Netherlands is in the south
of France, because I mean, where else will we be.
It's it's like it's France or Spain. That's that's that's
pretty much in or the camping, right. But like that
then you know, there are a lot less people on
the roads. And I've noticed that. I you know, I

(01:41:49):
worked throughout the summer and uh yeah, there were a
lot less people on the roads, so you have more
time and more space to work on the roads. That
that is it's you know, that's at least I think
that is the thought pattern. But yeah, to do it

(01:42:09):
like right when you know the summer break starts like
oh you're going on vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Good luck, right, And for people listening and hope that
do not picture this. The Netherlands is a country which
is basically forty one thousand kilometers square kilometers, so that's
like thirty five thousand square miles with eighteen million people
on it. I mean if you are in America and most.

Speaker 5 (01:42:40):
Of them here in the like the economic triangle, so
you know, Amsterdam ut brought it down like the reason
that I livers and I live in like a nice
part of that part of the country, right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Right, so staying where can people find you? Where are
you on? What channels? And what are you doing in
your spare time except doing podcasts? Now? Where can people
fight shorts? Slam? Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
Now? The main channel, of course, that I'm active on
is my YouTube channel. That is YouTube dot com for
Slash at stein Fox. Social media wise, it is Instagram,
Instagram dot com for slash Gray Horned Pagans. It's best
to contact me on Grean Pagan's account, uh Telegram, just

(01:43:33):
look up Grand Pagans, look up Styve Fox. You're guaranteed
to find me. And if that is too much information
and you know, like oh oh, they just from different platforms,
just go to the website ww dot Greyhorned Pagans dot com.
Everything is on there, and if it's not on there
yet done at least it will have a link that'll
link through.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
I'm gonna put that in a show description. I think
that's the easiest part for people to connect to you,
to see this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
And yeah, the podcast greater on Pagan's podcasts videos, the
video part of it. Every Saturday, I mean like not
every Saturday anymore. Uh, there will be more. I have
to schedule that I have like a lot of people
who started scheduling themselves on the show all of a sudden,

(01:44:24):
actually have a very interesting one Friday. This Friday, at
the time of recording, I'm gonna have a like an
actual freemason on. So that's that's really that's gonna be awesome. Yeah,
so that is every Saturday. I'm kind of experimenting with
some new times, but definitely every Saturday on YouTube, every

(01:44:49):
Tuesday on the audio platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Wow, busy, busy, busy.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
That's just the channel and the podcast. And I still
have a full time job aside from all of its
working out the penitentiary.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Well, we're shrudding it, man. I don't think Elie. I
think it goes the same for you. I got a
lot of things that I have to do in my
personal life or business life or whatever. But I got
so much energy about the things that I'm doing, the
creation that I can do. I never look back at
what I created, because then that's gonna stop me, because

(01:45:29):
then I'm gonna procrastinate and have anxiety and want to
be perfectionist. It's never gonna be perfect what I think
is going to be perfect. Within like, let's say one
day of editing some people would say like, oh, that
was shitty, and then I put something out like on
my phone just like here it is like wow, that
was amazing, Like fuck, why do I spend So it's

(01:45:50):
just I just put it out and again I think
I'm not thinking. No, stop thinking, rob that do that
in your free time, I know. And if you give creators,
little creators, creative creators like me and Stein or Steyne
and me better said, the opportunity to do the stuff

(01:46:11):
that we're doing right now with better equipment, and we're
going to have more beneficial income from that. That will
change the world, not only for us but all for
the people too, for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
For sure, that's why I've been doing more on on Patreon.
That's why I've been making more Patreon exclusive podcast That's
why I've done, you know, a few exclusive episodes for
the Grey and Pagans podcast. Like I love creating, but
also I'm I'm really trying to build my Patreon at

(01:46:50):
the moment because that is just because as I said,
like at the beginning, YouTube doesn't let me monetize my channel.
It s through speaker, the main podcast host that I'm using.
I'm making a little bit of money, but most of
it is gonna have to come from from Patreon or

(01:47:11):
my merchandise, and my merchandise isn't selling. So that's why here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Same here, I'm just figuring out how to start up
and the only fans account just to get the money
in to do this podcast. Oh yeah, my battery is draining.
That's why I wanted to well, not closing off in
just like that, because first is all I want to
I want to thank you for for hopping on this
Ornage production, Stele. I'm gonna share this episode so you

(01:47:40):
can put it on your platform. Two. I think that's
the best collaboration that we can have. We had, I
think when we touched basis so many great topics. I
hope you had a great time too.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
Always man, always.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Good, good. Good for all the listeners out there. If
you want to know more about me or Stein, I'm
gonna put the links in the show description you can
find me in this Ondisorganized Productions dot com and a
new website is up and running, Holisticcarnoman dot com. And

(01:48:15):
I'm working on some new privilege stumbling about my words.
I'm working on some new projects also to get word
jews going in this in this world to be creative
and well the metal way you're on this beautiful planet.
Pull it, mother Herb. I wish all of you a

(01:48:36):
beautiful grant rising, beautiful day or beautiful evening, the matter
where you are. And thank you for listening to this episode.
Teller human, thank you. I must say no exactly. Enjoy

(01:48:58):
your time. Man, and uh we should travels soon with
your moment down tomorrow and though we hook up soon.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Well they're going to travel. I'm staying here unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
All right, Well you have to travel through simple So
it's the least I can do, right, Okay, thanks man,
Evan gru there and good one. And then we talked
to each other soon.

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
Man, thanks, yes for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
What the tangled shadows dance?

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
It's lit and a restless trance. No, man, let's wander.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
Across the flame, Every road, different foot, all the same chaos,
chreamy factionalizing the fastest, Focking Knights and the Dog We
find the life, scream hate hard with me, fraction the lines.

Speaker 6 (01:50:11):
Out of the mast, Focking Knights and the Dog Way
find the line night, critical lines.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
With questions shot.

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
Trt through the nots, dis sect the heart, the rob
the dream of the drifting sage, rastless spirit race the cage,
the sarking knives.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
But we see clear.

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
Every story goes here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Chao stream it's harm me fract Li singlody out of
the master fucking Knights and the darg weep finals, a
stream party, Rasher liesing melody out of the master fucking
Knights and the dog weep final left.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Scatter the pieces, let them wall eat the bread of
the spraw like straw.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Tell the free wild, nruly break this is the sound
of you and me. Okay, I screams holler name Rasher
liesingldy out of the mass of marching knights and the
dog we fin the s three atomogy retronizing melody.

Speaker 6 (01:52:10):
I was the last margin Knights.

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
And the dark resin the love

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Refin

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