The Metaphysical Power of Crystals w/ Colby from Shamanic.Earth

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Bush Whisper expect Quick. That was writing. But yeah, my
guest for today you stay boarding shows quite great which

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watch more night? Yeah, this show is Crystal warning, so
you know, by my wife, by your fa and just
one else he likes crystals.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Is crystal?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
How they were say, at least joy to the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Gemstone And although we have been very up in there
already sharing a lot of his h of his gems,
a lot of his his things.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
So and here he is now everything you like? You're good?
Audio wise? Everything still good?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I can see you. Everything's I just
can't see myself.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh well you can see me, bro.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I thought it was like the invisible man. Turns out
everyone else can see me.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I could see you now, be able to see you
the whole time.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
No fucking way, I'm not just a voice in the voice. No,
damn Okay. Yeah, now I got to ask everyone else, like, dude,
can you see me? Well, anyway, thanks for joining, man,
just you know, introduce yourself. We've we've done a lot
of pre show chats already. The introduction, you know for

(02:33):
all the Crystal girlies.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Perfect nice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean, dude, you've been ever since I added you
to the main chat like, you have been like the
Gemstones and Crystals sub thing. You have been just going there,
especially with Micah, one of my fellow duchies and moderators.
Like I'm just looking at that. I'm like, geez, this

(02:58):
this sub label group has been like never more active.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So you mean the Gemstone group. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's
fun man, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean it's why I make those sub labels.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So cool that you did that. I think it's the
neatest thing.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I enjoy that so much to share and see what
other people are sharing. I'm kolbe Watchhorn. I just started
a site called Shamanic Earth Shamanic dot Earth, and I
make amulets of power and I have for over two
decades been connected to the etheric levels and the gem
world and going to gem shows and tons of different

(03:37):
stores and places where they have gems and ordering them online.
I got over a thousand crystals. It's insane how many
I have that I need to make stuff with and
sell them. So yeah, I'm really stoked to be here.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Thanks for having me, Yeah, absolutely for sure. How did
you get started with the whole crystal thing? You said
you've been doing it for twenty years?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, so back in I moved to Arcada, California,
back in two thousand and one, and I was I
went to a crystal store and I saw a crystal
and I bought. I bought this book here this if
you guys can see that, but it's Crystals by Judy Hall.
She's no longer with us, but in hearing it said

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you can make your own amulet, you know, And so
I did, and I sensed the power and I really
started meditating. I started putting them in my left hand
and I could feel the cold energy, and I could
feel it vibrating inside him into in through my arm
and into my heart, and I could use the energy
and then I could send it out with my right
hand and I would. I was able to charge him

(04:46):
and feel them and to where making the necklaces is
where everything came together because when I started adding certain
crystals together, they started complimenting one another and giving certain
senergy and as instances that brought it together where yeah,
it was amazing. And I started making them for people
and they could feel the energy. They'd be like, wow,

(05:07):
I can feel this, and it inspired me even more
because they could feel what I could feel and that
that really meant something. So I just kept doing it
and doing it, and you know, and through that time,
you know, we have life happens, right, and so of
course like it wasn't during you know, we have life happened.
So yeah, that's how I got into it. And I

(05:29):
used to make a I used to make these, so
I'd take like a quartz or citrine or amethyst base
and I'd put dragons or ferries on it with glue.
But I'd make like a little scene. And I used
to sell them at a consignment store here and here
in Utah and that was pretty cool, sell them those.
And I'd buy a bunch of crystals and sell them,

(05:50):
so it was fun. Yeah, that's what rats them is
where it's at. I think, you know, the healing aspect
and the metaphysical, the.

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so that of course, you know, in the the spiritual community,
like crystals, it's it's a whole it's a whole thing.

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But what what I'm always kind of hesitant about is
that people are starting to to become dependent on it.
It's like, you know, I I need this crystal for
that protection all you know, I'm feeling I'm feeling this,
so you know, I'm gonna gonna have to like gary

(07:42):
this crystal with me. And you know, I I absolutely
believe that they are powerful things in their their own right.
But how do you like make sure you don't become
dependent on it, because they're just they're just like a
well more of a tool.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, you have a good point, and I agree with
what you're saying, because we shouldn't have to have a
crystal for everything we do. We shouldn't have to meditate
on everything we do. Should be feeling okay to do
it without, you know, without the tool. At the same time,
the tool can charge us up, right, So you can
hold the tool and be like charged up for the

(08:23):
day at the same time. This is this is powerful
right here. So if you think about how crystals work,
they're all connected, right and right now underneath me and
the earth, there's all kinds of crystals and elements everywhere.
Other people wear crystals around you. So think about it.
If you go into a store, right and you're like,
you don't have your protection, this is just an example,

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and I have my protection. I was worried, but I
go in anyway, Well, all the elements of the earth
are underneath me, and I can connect to them if
I want to, right, I can. I can feel connected.
But if I if I feel like I have to
have this with me everywhere I go all the time
and I can't live without it, then yeah, I'm gonna
be perplexed. It's like a it's like a medication almost,

(09:09):
you know, which is we don't want to be like
addicted or attached to anything one hundred percent at all.
It's you know, so it's good to not be fully
attached to them to where you can live your life
comfortably and know that you don't have to have that
there all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, okay, so it's with well that's the case with
everything really, you know. It's it's good that it's it's there,
it's good that it's helping, but just make sure you
don't become dependent on it.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah yeah, and it's yeah, I agree. And it's funny.
There's crystals for just about anything, so you could you
could get a crystal for just about anything you do,
you know, But this is another thing. So I've got
a generator crystal. It's a quartz crystal. It's about this big,
and I manifest for that to send me all energy

(10:01):
whereever I go in the realm. It will connect me
and protect me, and I don't have to think about that.
It's a generator. I programmed it. It's charged, so it's
conconsistently giving me that energy.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, a generator and a transmitter of some.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Kind, yes, yes, and there are general there are transmitter
quartz crystals. This one's specifically a generator, but it also transmits.
Like you're saying, so you are correct.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, well that I gets me right into the pyramids
like they Yeah, I mean that it was is set
at least by a whole bunch of different people that
they had a like a kind of a crystalline layer
over them at first, Like where you know, just see
rock was a crystalline layer over it. It was some

(10:53):
kind of a yeah line which is limestone. Yeah, and
a is it like a golden top or a crystalline
top or or something that you know was also transmitting
certain things because like as a burial thing, like the
inside was you know not right for that, or it

(11:14):
was built in such a way that for it to
be a just a very large tomb. They didn't it
didn't make sense. What are your thoughts on it. I
find it a fascinating theory and if it's true, that's great.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It is fascinating. I see it as being a burial
type of aspect, but also an alchemical process too that
they they had certain kinds of if you see, like
the bulbs that they had, and they did a lot.
They did a lot of plant medicine too, right, they
did a lot. I'm trying to remember the actual flower

(11:48):
right now. I want to say lily, but that's not it. Lotus,
the lotus, thank you? Yeah, yeah, that I I don't know.
I've seen a lot of things on the pyramids, right,
and see all the different chambers and the different aspect.
I guess it can against like a boll and there's
also chambers beneath the pyramid.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
They need to get into the hollow earth.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
That would be cool. Yeah, I could believe that. I did.
I would love to be able to be one of
the ones to go there and find that stuff. But
then they're like, why haven't they found already? I mean,
do they know about it? Is it all closed off?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is it? It's lane? You have to ask the bird
family general Bird, because supposedly he was the last one.
I don't know the hollow Earth. I find the fascinating
theory also true, a lot of crystal work with them.

(12:44):
I actually recently rewatched Disney's Atlantis, okay, for like a
sense of nostalgia and and everything. And in that movie,
you know, it's it's it's a it's a it's an
animated film, of course, but you know, you know how

(13:07):
it is with Disney. Some things are not what they seem,
or they they mean a little more than you think,
right And Atlantis, oh no, no, think of it. They
kind of like combined it with hollow Earth, like because
Atlantis supposedly, of course you know, sunk and now it's
in the earth or under the earth or kind of
a hollow earth. And their main power source was this

(13:33):
giant crystal. They're they're like power source or source of
life and they have the smaller things hanging around their neck.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Of course it was a Mirkaba crystal. So I know
a lot about this, but I'm not tapped into it
right now. And it's funny when you started bringing all
that up the crystal, so check this out. When you
said that, that brought this into my mind. So the
Bermuda triangle, okay, have you heard that before?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, of course, you know, the greatest conspiracy there is.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's so that's where they say this crystal that Howard
Atlantis is now it's in the middle in the ocean,
down deep in the ocean. And that's why it's a
perfect triangle. Dude. The energy it shoots out this energy
and it's not contained anymore in the containment unit that
they had, and so that containment unit that that crystal

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was in that would send the energy to these different
places is gone. So now that crystal is just shooting
its fucking energy everywhere without containment meaning and it's a
perfect triangle. So that that tells me it's a there's
a crystal down there that's not contained so powerful that
they go into other dimensional portals and area or you

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know areas or that go where they never come back.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
And it's also could explain, especially with the older type
lanes and other aircraft aircrafts, why like all the equipment
would just go go nuts. Yeah, that usually only happens,
you know, when you're flying in some very highly charged area,

(15:17):
like you know, a thunderstorm or thundercloud. Then you know,
equipment can at least with the older planes nowadays technology
is a little better, so yeah, you know, but then
it would go it would go absolutely absolutely nuts because
it's you know, it's charged too much. Yeah, and even
even with technology, like speaking of that, a lot of

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crystals or like crystalline things are used in it as well,
Like a lot of computer chips are crystalline.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, the piezel electric crystal that was made back in
the So every watch, everything, even your big lighters, your microwaves, stoves,
everything has a piece of electric crystal that vibrates at
thirty six, seven and twenty eight oscillations per second, which

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that's how we keep time, and nothing can't have it.
So and Tesla Nicola was onto this. He was studying this,
he was studying tomaline alane and how charged because this
produces an electric charge on its own frequency. So if
that was harnessed correctly with the right machinery. But it

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also goes into like this construct that we're in, right,
this this man made construct. Do these piece of electric
crystals create a frequency around us that makes everything what
it is now? I mean, but before that, it's quite
interesting and fascinating to think about and to ponder. So, yeah,
it's amazing how many crystals. I mean, you know, you've

(16:53):
got silicone crystals. These phones are just made out of
silicone crystals. The microchip, the CPUs, like you're saying, they're
all crystalline structured, and they use sacred geometry in these
uh like in these designs, which I mean it tells

(17:16):
us something big, you know.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean people have have used that to kind of
prove the simulation theory because like a lot of these
you know, like the motherboards of computers, and if you
like have a like a city map next to it,

(17:39):
it looks very much, very much alike as like you know,
almost like is one designed like the other? Did did
we design the motherboards like our cities or did we
design our cities purposefully to look like like motherboards? Did
we have that knowledge already? Which I definitely believe, I mean,
this is not know humanities first time around. So to

(18:03):
think that we are like also technologically advanced, that's ridiculous, Like, yeah,
we're we're advanced in a way that you know, we
don't live into freaking stone age anymore. You know, we
can do this for example, you know, thousands of miles apart,
hours apart, literally, but still you know, chat with each

(18:24):
other in semi real time. Yeah, you know, minuscule delay,
like micro micro seconds delay. But you know, we're nowhere
near as advanced as we were. But to try to
improve the the simulation theory with that, I get it.
But I think it has another explanation. I think that's

(18:49):
another way. I mean you mentioned Tesla. He was, you know,
a very big, like also big researcher in free energy
and like freely obtained energy, you know, get it from
get it from the ether, get it out of out
of the ground, out of the soil. And I think

(19:10):
perhaps it's designed with that in thoughts to harness the
energy maybe of the people living in it, because we
are all electrical beings.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
We are. Definitely it goes you know, the we're more advanced.
I think in the like the dark projects that we
don't know about that, like we're years ahead, but they're
not gonna they're gonna suppress that technology.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's until it benefits them to release it.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, they can make money off it.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, exactly, build zum it down a little for the
public and be like, hey, new toys, new stuff. We
didn't have that for thirty years by the scenes already.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, and then they'll make crappy parts for it, so
break see you buy it all the time, you know,
because it's funny, Dude.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I go on like this stard thing for example. Yeah,
you decide they make them designed to like, dude, take
off your case and they fall out of your hand, right,
they just slit right out of your hand. They're they're
not made to stick in your hand.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Why not? You know, it's crazy. They should be made
to connect to our hands in some way so we
don't drop them. That would mean that the company cared
about us keeping these and not making money off us.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
But you know, then again, the fact that you have
a case to prevent that means that you had to
buy another thing. You had to spend even more money
to make sure it doesn't it doesn't happen, and this
will still happen, right, and.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Then the screen protector, like those are fifty bucks or
something like that, or one hundred dollars now they used
to be like ten twenty bucks.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
I can still kind of get them for the cheap,
but I do go to sit in quality that they're
they're a bit cheaper. But yeah, that's it's full of
crystals and everything. Yeah, plant obsolescence.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, a lot of things you're saying about the simulation
and things sparked my mind in a lot of different ways,
because it's funny how we can make a lot of
things in the computer the same thing in reality. Like ether. Well,
you've got your ether net right, Ethernet cables that surround
you and it's a net so but it's it's kind

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of weird.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
And the cables are precious metals.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, copper, and they send signals and they have to
be twisted to the right twist to provide the right
amount of speed. And different ones like back in the day,
Kat too and Cat three have like an actual piece
of foil that surrounds the inside of the cable to
protect it. It's a forgot the term. It just fell
on my mind, but.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, I know what you mean off it. I'm I
think I'm a I'm a little I was born a
little past that. I'm thirty three, so I you know,
I got to see the rise of the Internet and
all of that. I believe we were, at least when
I was younger, we were the first ones in our

(22:17):
our street to have a home computer.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh nice, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Now I have like I literally have this computer which
is my my dad's computer. I have a laptop, and
I have a dusk stop which I have hooked up
to my TV. It's not even it's not even special anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool to get set up. And it's
like everything they found that humans can be coded into
ones and zeros one hundred percent. And when I found
that out, and do you do that? Do that research, dude,
it's crazy, like we can be literally coded to ones
and zeros to the Yeah, it's nuts. It blew me

(22:58):
away because I didn't quite understand that until I started
getting into that, and then all these scientists that have
been studying on the deep end of where we're at
and what we're doing. And you know, it's still a
magical experience, whether it's a simulation or not. You know,
it's meant to be something very special and very like.

(23:20):
We learned so much here. It's it's pretty cool everything
we do. Yeah, and it's a we're all blessed to
be here. And it's it's easy to say fuck this place,
everything that's going on. Man, we can get so negative, right,
I can't.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Especially the Dutch. I'd almost say that we are you know,
the undisputed champion of complaining about things. Yeah, we are.
We complain about everything. We are very pessimistic. Yeah that's

(23:56):
why we smoke so much.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, smoke with doctors and stuff. That's good. I
didn't know that. But I've been pessimistic my whole life.
Not my whole life, like totally bad. But yeah, it's see.
I've had to work on that because I used to
live in the past. I used to live in the future,
and I had to learn how to live in the present,
which is the gift, right, it's the present. It's the

(24:18):
gift which we live and now, which makes it so
much more Special's.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Angry about the past and anxious for the future.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah yeah, And it's easy to get caught up in
that stuff, especially when you watch TV and things and
watch other people doing these things. And oh, I don't
watch TV anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, yeah, I know, me neither. I mean, like I said,
I have my my desktop hooked up to my TV. Well,
you know, I'll I'll watch a movie when I when
I want, when I feel like watching a movie. I
have a couple of series downloaded. Then I'll just watch
when I feel like it. And otherwise it's a lot
of YouTube actually, you know, yeah, because that's it's you know,

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those are were the most part at least independent creators.
I mean, you know they'll they'll be in a like
part of a bigger network for example, but I mean
especially if they if they do it for a living,
you don't can't fold them for that. But still they
are independent and yeah for that for the most part. Yeah,

(25:23):
the content is just it's so much better than than
on TV. You know, like one thousand and one channels
on TV but nothing to watch.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, it's it's a joke and people will pay for
that monthly. Still yeah, yeah, it's crazy, Like I don't
I don't understand it. And they'll lay there and watch
shows from twenty years ago. I mean whatever gets them
through things at times. You know. Yeah, it can be
as a tool to some extent, but it's I think

(25:51):
when we watch those TV shows. So when I was
grown up and we had the sold ray to TVs, man,
you could hear when that TV turned on in your bed.
You could hear the frequency, the loud, high pitched squealing noise.
I knew when the TV it was on all the time,
I knew when it was off, and I was just
a little kid. Yeah, I mean the TV is now

(26:11):
the flat screens don't have that because thod rate that
tube in it, so they don't put off that frequency anymore.
But yeah, I think that frequency was an attachment man
like because I like that it is a comfortability type thing.
Like when I heard it, I felt comfortable.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, it's yeah, oh I get that. It was kind
of like your your white noise, Like what for other
people is is white noise that drowns out you know,
their their thoughts and all the other stuff. For you,
that was that was the TV.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's possible that, yeah, very possible.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, I mean we we had one of those as well.
It's just big, big fucking thing and incredibly heavy, especially
for maybe like dude seven eight years old at the top.
I mean that that thing was probably wait twice as
much as I did. Yeah, and also just the satisfying

(27:07):
sound when you need to turn it off, like you
could also hear it when you you turn it off
and you'll see that, you know, the picture disappearing to
this this one point that's you know, gets smaller and
smaller or the like the white Yeah. Oh that was
sounds fine.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, that is cool. Yeah, there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
We go way off topic.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, I know, I know, it's all good. It was
we're talking about TVs and frequency and yeah. So it's
like that frequency though, brings people into an addiction to
watching that TV, and then they get addicted to watching
the news and the fear factory, you know, like north East,
West and South is news, and that sends tell lie
vision to lie to you about or to all of

(27:53):
us about stuff that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I mean, it's it's literally a black mirror, you know. Yeah,
you can, you can, you can. You can see it
in my in my background. I had a nice back job,
but that she was fucking falling apart because I don't
get paid doing this this kind of stuff. So everything
I have is paid for with my own money. You can.
You know, everyone want to help everyone watching listening.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
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Speaker 1 (28:21):
Website ww dot grad bankers dot com. Find everything there.
So now I just you know, do it do it
like this, But you know, it does mean that I
have like a constant black mirror just watching us, watching
everything we do in the background, and everybody's so scared,
Like oh, nineteen eighty four and like the dvs are

(28:42):
constantly watching you or whatever here where you fucking were.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
What do you think this thing is?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's a black mirror, like it's literally reflecting. Yeah, exactly
it is, dude, Well they're spying when us. Well, yeah,
you're carrying a thing with you twenty four seven.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Of course this it senses everywhere you go, you're g
not just your GPS, but also like the height that
you're at. And yeah, you've seen Snowden right, Uh ye, well.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I know what he's I know what he's about. I
know the things that he exposed. And also even simple
things as when you have like what is a pedometer
step step counter? It has to know when you you know,
when you took a step or how many steps you took,
which is wait by different calculations. And the only way

(29:35):
it can do that is if you're you know, if
you have it with you the whole time you're doing that.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, yep, yeah, I mean I'm kind.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of guilty of it myself too. I bought a you know,
with black black Friday, I bought a smart watch, you know,
kind of guilty, kind of guilty of it myself to
what it's it's it's handy. It's just it's a handy
thing to have. Yeah, So I'm not as enlightened as
I like to be.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Now that's cool, man. We we gotta use the tools
that we can use the help us out and stuff exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Like speaking of enlightenments, that is a thing. I think
it's more New Age, I guess, but you know New
Age and crystals, they love that shit. Yeah, yeah, the
what is it the crystalline body or something.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
That if you.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like elevate yourself that you're you're transcending into this crystalline
body at the same time as a light body of sorts.
But don't you become even more physical than like isn't
it isn't the whole intention of elevation of ascendency to

(30:52):
be able to live without the physical body. Yeah, I'm
just wondering, Like, you know, as the New Age has
with a lot of things, they kind of they kind
of corrupt that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
The New Age movement's been confusing because there's been a
lot of just I've I've had to fall off of it,
right and just kind of because I was in it
and then it just got I don't know the right word.
I would just say too much of conflicting ideas that
didn't resonate right where I set myself aside and let
the New Age thing do its own thing, and I'll

(31:23):
pick from it like a treat. I'll take fruit from
it as I go, because it's it wasn't serving me
what they were doing, and I think they started getting
aspects from other things that weren't bringing into the right
light and stuff where yeah, it's so yeah, pick from it,
pick what you need. And just that's how I see

(31:46):
it right now, Like.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
With you, you know, being into everything crystals, you know,
speaking of the New Age and all of that, so
many like metaphysical shops popping up, and every one of
them will sell crystals and to to draw you in,

(32:10):
they'll have this like two three meter like let's say,
you know, ten ten foots for all of my you know,
to put it in the freedom units, like high piece
of crystal in the window to you know, draw you in. Yeah,
I'm always wondering are those actual crystals or are they

(32:33):
fabricate it?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
And like like.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, I mean, like I'll believe those are real, But
just the amount of crystals those shops have and will sell,
we already can in certain laboratories, we can make fake diamonds.
We can create our own like lab diamonds mm hm.
So I'm sure we can do that with the those

(33:00):
other types of crystals as well. So I'm always wondering
how much of that is actually real, like how much
are you know? How much of them are actual crystals?
And do you perhaps know how we can? Oh, we
can spot the difference.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, you can. So a natural crystal will have like
a phantom in it. You'll see waves of looking like bubbles. Okay,
so if you take like a gem and you take
a loop like a little magnifying glass and you look
into it, usually the really clear things are not real.

(33:34):
They're fully clear. Now this is the physical aspect of it,
right We're doing this the physical way right now, so
we're looking at it.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And yeah, for you know, for the uh, your your
average consumer who is looking to buy something either because
it's you know, because it's pretty, or you know, a
friend of theirs, family member of theirs is into the
into spirituality and they heard like crystals is cool, you.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Know, Yeah, for your every man.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I know most of most of my audience, well our
audience really they probably know, but just for your every man.
So the really clear ones are often well fake or fabrication.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well not so you can tell by the shape too.
So like this crystal right here, right, this has If
I looked in it, I can actually see what's called
rutilated quartz, and I can see turmaline inside of it.
I can see it shine off of it. So another way,

(34:35):
so if you take a crystal and you let the
light bounce off the surface, the terminations, some of these terms,
somebody may this, some people may need to look up.
So each crystal has a termination. Some of them are
double terminated, which is considered a floater. You take the
terminations and you let the light bounce off them, and
you can actually see the growth pattern. Sometimes now they'll

(34:59):
take crystal like this one, for instance, was natural, but
they took it and they sanded it down and they
shined it up, so they you can tell. I can
tell this isn't natural form. Yeah, it's it's too too smooth,
it's too perfect. Yeah right, Yeah, it's too perfect. Crystals, don't,
I mean, they grow perfectly, but not not perfect like

(35:23):
a human can make. Yeah, you know, and anything that
girls in nature is imperfect, because that's what gives it beauty,
just like a rose. It's totally imperfect, but it's like
a Fibonacci sequence and it's totally perfect. Actually, it's amazing.
So like, I've got a piece of sapphire here, right,
it's got a record keeper on it. I can see

(35:44):
the skin I call it the skin or the uh,
the actual surface of the crystal. And it has a
triangle on it, which is called a record keeper. And
these are used to like I can open it and
it will start keeping record everything that's around me, everything
I do, everything I say. These have been used to

(36:06):
and I'm getting off topic, I know, but they've been
used to take in and record, you know, different scenarios
of people, like working together or talking about things. And
then you can close the record keeper and reopen it
somewhere else and meditate on it, and you get all
that information that was there when it was opened up.
It's amazing. There's about thirty eight or it's in its thirties,

(36:31):
different kinds of quartz crystals that do different things. There's
left key, there's a right key. There's gosh, there's so
many that. So there's the scepter courts. This one's a
scepter right here here, let me grab something so you
can Yeah, oh please please do.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I know very very little about this. I find it
hide and fascinating. I find it incredibly beautiful and powerful.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna get some really cool ones to show.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah, no, please do. I mean, dude, that's that's why
I had you on because I want to learn myself
as well, and I don't I don't always have the
time to check the group because god, you are actually
in there.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
There's a lot going on. It's got it's amazing. So yeah,
I can agree with you there. So these are sceptors.
These are court scepters, and you can see the difference
because it grows out right like a like ahead and
these are abnormal growth. They so grow straight, but then
it will turn into like a a sceptor. That's what's
called right. And sorcerers, wizards, people of high power would

(37:38):
wear these, and that would signify their their their their
their area or what they stood for in their group
of people.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Would that also be why the kings of old, the
divine kings still would wear scepters. Yes, to show off
or it will show off to show their diffinity, to
show their power. Oh, I never knew that. I know
that jewels and and all of that are very common
on like sceptors and crowns. Well, I I never knew

(38:11):
it was like actually divine and all of that.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's it signifies power, and yeah they're placing
in their society. But yeah, like high priests and things
like that. This one's a twin courts. You can see
how it grew like an exact pattern of itself to
the left and right. So it's like, yeah, not a twin,
but the you know, and humans have another human.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Like a Siamese Siamese twin of yes, yes, yeah, exactly, yes,
And so these are these aren't easy to find, but
I have one of the most.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
So this one I was showing you earlier, right, is
a manifestation courtz. Crystal actually has another crystal growing inside
of it, which is like one of the.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Rarest crystals in crystal uh.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Crystal Kingdom. Now this one, dude has it's gonna be
really hard to see, but inside of this it has
a actual crystal that's double terminated inside of it, and
you can see it when you turn it. You can
bounce light off of it. And this is this has
been Uh, this has been cut and polished. But when

(39:26):
I was going through these and buying them one time,
I was looking at him because I'll look inside and
I don't know if you can see this, but can
you see the the fog inside of it? Yeah, So
that that tells me that's real. And when you've looked
at and when I've looked at enough quartz, when I
go look at another quartz crystal, right, they are all similar.

(39:48):
And when you take a real quartz crystal or a
real crystal and you put it in your left hand,
it'll usually be cold and you'll feel the cold energy
like now I'm not now, not the physical cold. It's
a different kind of cold. It's a it's hard to say,
it's hard to to really, it's it's a it's a feeling.

(40:09):
But yeah, and you can feel it. I can feel
it around my whole hand literally like energy. Yeah. And
so it's and that that can take practice, right, it
can take time to to feel that because like we
don't learn like we have to learn things. Like you
go play guitar, right, if you've never played guitar, and

(40:32):
nobody's ever said, well, you know, you need to strum,
you know, and do this and hold it. If you
don't learn that, then you don't have a foundation to
work off of. So being able to, you know, play
with a few stones and crystals, Like this one's quartz,
but it's rutile quartz. So this actually has this stuff

(40:54):
tourmaline growing inside of it, but it's it's black turmaline.
It's scrolled. This one's a pink, pink turmaline, which is
pretty sweet, pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
It's a beautiful piece.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
But this thing's this thing looks like an ocean piece.
But they also because it's etched, which means water, it
terminated in water, and then they polished it and stuff
to make it look pretty of course. Yeah, But what's
crazy is like, so this is turmaline, and this is turmaline,
but this is botroidal rubelte urmaline and this is just

(41:30):
pink turmaline, which is like an illebate. But yeah, these
these can actually grow these guys out of them in
a way. It's kind of crazy, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I know I have a very entrained eye, of course,
but they look the same to me. But like I said,
you know, I have an entrained eye. I don't I
don't know that's why I have you wanted to help
you understand help my audiences.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah yeah, and batroidal will be like bubbly. So I've
also got a piece of So this is batroidal malakite.
And there is a lot of people won't ever know,
like ever see this before because it's very rare, but
malakite usually looks like this.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
That looks more familiar.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, so you see the green color in this one.
It's the same green, but it's bubbly, like it bubbled
up and then it dried this way, so it's like
a batroidal. They call it batroidl it.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, bubbly is definitely they the right way to call that. Yeah,
as if yeah, literally, as if it came bubbling up
and then just frozen place.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah yeah. And there's a thing called fire rag it
And they're a little harder to see because they're a
little cabas ons, but inside of them, when you take
a light you put it over it. Yeah, like you
see all these little tiny bubbles and it's all opalized,
like it's all different colors, purples, red blues, oh, cools, everything.

(43:01):
It's amazing, so cool. This is dioptase right here. This
is a. This is from the Sumad mine in Brazil,
which is closed now. But if this was left in
the mine, it would turn red, which yeah, and this
is on a piece of like the matrix. So this

(43:21):
is called a matrix that the crystals grow on, and
that's a calcite matrix. But it's very.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
What is it blue?

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Teal is?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's a green like blue like if I take a
picture of it looks blue. I think through the through
the cameras, it looks blue, but it's really yeahen.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
So.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Then how would that turn red if you left it
in the mine because I don't very very different colors.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I think it's a gold deposit that's in there and
as it still has it's still connected to the entire
caves system. Yeah it yeah, so if you take gold
and you you take so there's a quartz crystal called
aqua aura and it's it's courts that they put into

(44:12):
a machine and they put gold in it and it
makes it blue. It turns it blue and shiny like
I don't have one right here, but it turns it gold.
I mean, it turns it blue with like rainbow colors.
And so yeah, humans can manufacture rubies diamonds pretty much.

(44:32):
I don't think they can make azure right like this,
like you know, like little rosettes.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I to tell you honestly, Stein, I wouldn't put it
past them. They could probably make whatever that we can
see because they have the money. They have the power
to take scientists, to pay those scientists to do the
research for twenty hours for seven you know. But what's
even kind of cool is like petrified stuff. So this

(45:01):
is a petrified egg. This is pretty crazy. I've been
told that was a reptile egg. And you can see
the actual shell right here. Yeah, it's dick. It's like
it's about a meter and a half dick and you
can see it. It's pretty cool, man. Yeah. And like
fossils and things, they even have metaphysical properties, a lot

(45:22):
of grounding properties and connecting to like old like like
your older family and relatives and things like that. Yeah,
this one's sorry. Were you going to say something?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
No, No, I'm just I'm thinking because my wife, like
her son, our son, I guess he with his with
his noow, with his grandmother with her mother. They went
to a some sort of a exhibits and the topic
of that day was petrified wood. Actually, yeah, so that's

(45:55):
a nice it's a nice sink. What are those like
the petrofhieds or calcified bones of petrophieded wood and everything.
Is that that considered to be some kind of a
crystal or crystalline thing or is it just stone like
it turned to.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Some turn to stone to some degree. Just one second,
I'm gonna grab something else because by a place called Escalante,
there's petrified forests right out there. Oh wow, okay, I
went out there and I was able to find petrified
wood with crystals in it. There is.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Petrified wood with crystals in it.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, yeah, it grows quartz crystals. So and it also opalizes.
This is a this is a piece of petrofied wood.
Now look at the I don't know if you can
see that, but you see it almost looks batroidal kind
of but that's almost opalized type. Like if you take
light and put on it, you can see, which is
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
And from the site it definitely looks like.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
The like the like, and you can feel it. So
if you take a crystal or anything and you tap
it on your teeth, So if you want to know
if a pearl is real. Take it and you rub
it on your teeth. If it's smooth, it's fake. If
you feel a sandy nous, like a gritty sandiness, it's real.

(47:26):
So a lot of times you can take your teeth
find out if something's plastic or if it's a if. Yeah,
like you were saying, you can see the sturations this one.
So when I was an escalante's then I went to
the petrified forest and dude, like, let me grab one
more thing.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
They have even more.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Okay, yeah they got so you can't take anything from
the petrified forest, and they watch you because it's illegal
to take stuff from there because you'll go there and
there'll be these giant like logs.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Dude, they are looking amazing with bull blue and just
purple rainbow colors, all fluid like somebody poured like colors
of paint all over it and it dry. Bro like,
it is so cool. So I went off trail out
of the totally where the forest wasn't and I drove

(48:17):
up on like a whole group of just like fifteen
twenty pieces of petrified wood. Wow, I couldn't get the
big piece. It was like that big. It was a
it was like a trunk. Yeah, fight trunk.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
That's a bitch taking home.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah. After that, I can. Yeah. But then I found
these pieces and this is one piece so it's got
quarts in it, yeah, aper quartz, which is pretty cool.
And you can see the bark here.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Wow, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, it's petrified wood. It's pretty heavy too. It's it's
crazy like maybe they were a different kind of tree,
you know.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Oh yeah, that kind of would make sense.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Do you think.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It makes me think like barnstone is mostly just hardened
or petrifi's tree sap. If I'm not mistaken, barnstone, I've
never heard of that before.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Let me just like stones from a barn or is
it like an no.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Like that's that's it is like petrified or hardened out
tree sap, you like, kind of like in the Jurassic Park.
Uh yeah, I believe it's similar, like in in the
Jurassic Park films where they they found the mosquitoes in

(49:39):
with a dinosaur blood like that. I believe it's called barnstone.
Or I'm just or I'm like anglicizing a Dutch word now,
which might also be might also be the case. I mean,
I do it the other way around. As well.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
I think you're thinking amber, and I got a really.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Nice piece of it right here somewhere, swear here, let's
just bring this up here, like, yeah, I've got like
this little tiny room and I've got thousands.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Of crystals in here. It's crazy, like just literally crazy. Yeah,
the tree sat turns into uh to an amber which yeah,
the dinosaur there's bugs in him, dude, I've got one
with bugs in it.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Nice but yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's it's amber. I'm
probably anglicizing a Dutch words, oh, you're good, you're just
which is very typical.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
It'd be cool to be able to speak with that
witch too, though, Bro. I can't find it right now.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
But oh, I actually think I you mentioned the the
tree like with all the different kind of colors. I'm
actually kind of looking up things and I think may
have found a example of it. I got a lot
of programs open here. This this kind of.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Dude, that's it right there, bro, Yeah, that's petrified forest stuff?
Is that from Escalante?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I I don't know. I just looked up petrofied tree
SAP and this is one of the one of the
pictures that that came up.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Nice. That's a great picture.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
It reminded me of of how you described it. But
it looks amazing. It almost looks like it's a big
gory perhaps, but especially on the on the right site.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
So the like the site closest to us, closest to
the shadow site, let's say, Yeah, it kind of looks
like like it's been it's been bleeding or something. I
don't know, Yes, yeah, you know, it's kind.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Of like a looks plastic.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, that that too, And like on the very edges,
it's like a like a reminds me of like a
scap or something like a wound wound crust thing scap.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
It does kind of gory.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
But so this is this is like what you what
you described, what you meant, because this is that looks
amazing and it's just, you know, more proof of of
how amazing mother nature actually is that she can create
something like that out of at a piece of wood.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah yeah, And and I don't know the conditions that
would had to sit in to do that. Well, so
what I mean, I could look that up and we
could do the research, you know, and I know.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, of course, but that makes me thinks that's where
I was going with the whole amber thing. What different
kinds of trees, perhaps depending on the amount of sap,
because like here in the Netherlands, like up north, we
have a lot of like a lot of green trees,
a lot of you know, spar trees, spur of like

(53:06):
needle trees, pine trees.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yeah that's good, good, but yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I mean sometimes my English is actually better than my wife's,
and she is American. It's her first language, my second
nice and I do kind of bully her with that
every now and then she bullies me right back. So
it's all good. That's our love language. We bully each other.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
That's cool. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
That's more special. But it makes me think, like would
it depends on the kind of wood and perhaps how
much tree sap is is in it. How it's how
it petrifies because you know, like also we have a
lot of oak trees for example here, which is a
very you know, very hard, very durable kind of wood.

(53:52):
So I imagine it would like fossilize in a very
different way than a softer kind of wood or a
more more sappy kind of wood.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, I don't is that how they petrify its? From
the sat.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I don't know. I can imagine it possibly helps with
the chemical process. With chemical processing, I mean, the sap
hardens into what we recognize as as amber.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
So, so isn't silica a crystal?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I believe it is.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
So check this out. So this how petrified wood petrifies.
Petrification occurs when the mineral rich water, usually containing silica,
seeped in seeped into the wood's cellular structure, gradually replacing
the organic material with minerals, effectively turning the wood into stone.
That's where they get the quartz crystals.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Then, Oh, yeah, silica. Isn't that also like in the
the like the soult kind of family.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, so it says, so it's a mineral.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, and you know if it replaces the water with
you know, thinking of salt, that would make sense if it's.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
So, it says quartz the most common form of crystalline
silica quartz. So it's like it's like, uh, liquefied quartz.
Sorry if I interrupted you bro, No, no, no, it's
all good. I'm just getting excited.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Liquefied quartz.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, So that's what it tells me, is like silica.
So if quartz is a type of silica, and that's
what enters into the wood to change the the wood
structure to a stone and it hardens, and then that's
how the quartz crystals ruin this.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Then wouldn't that happen from the inside out? Or is
it like what we think like with the like the
dinosaur bones, for example, it depends on the type of
of soil it lays on. It lays in very much
dependent on the conditions surrounding it.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
That would make sense for sure. Huh.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Well, coming to all kinds of scientific conclusions here. So yeah,
subscribe to the Green or Pagans for more science.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, no, it's it's pretty cool, like actual.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Science, not paid science. I don't get paid to do
with the ship. You should, though, I know, and you will,
you will actually, you know, getting there slowly but surely.
I mean I'm only a I am a one hundred
and ninety six subscribers away from being able to at

(56:44):
the very least monetize nice dude, my channel eight oh
four time of recording. So and it's going fast. I'm
very happy with that. Like I remember, I've said this
recently on the show as well, that with Halloween or
with Sooyen thirty first of October, I was at six
hundred and sixty six subscribers, so oh really yeah, made

(57:07):
a joke of that, like ooh halloweenen six six six
yea very fitny And now I'm at like eight oh
four and it's like we're coming at the end of January,
channels during its last and I am I'm very I'm
very happy about it. I'm very pleased with it. I've
been doing this for a number of years now. I

(57:27):
absolutely love doing it.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
So and you're great at it. You're very professional, and
you ask three questions, you're anywer. It just makes perfect
balance and even which makes it chaotic, right, you can
have fun with it? Yeah, and for sure, so are
you only? Like so, I noticed we're on Riverside, right,
So is that where you get your subscribers or is

(57:50):
that in YouTube or.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
No, that's that's mostly YouTube. Riverside is the online recording studio. Okay,
use just because it as it has so many functionalities
built into it. It has a bit of a rudimentary
editor already, so I do a lot of like like

(58:15):
pre editing I will do in in Riverside. I can
improve the audio I can, you know, for example, with
longer pauses or when I'm like thinking too much, like
like the filler words, I can I can get those

(58:35):
taken out so it's a more more coherent hole. I
can have what's it like the like the sub subtitling,
I can have it, have it on there, I can
have it in here. Yeah, Riverside, I've I've used many
different platforms. I've used stream Yard for a large for

(58:58):
a large part for a long long time. But that
got too expensive. I got way too expensive, like they were.
They were hiking up the prices so that if I
wanted to keep using it like I was, because I
was also like doing custom backgrounds and all of that.
It's very fun, you know, to play around with. But
it was going to cost me till fifty a month,

(59:20):
and I was like, that's that's too much. Like I'm
paying all of this out of pocket. You know, I
have two kids, I have a wife, I have you know,
I have steps on. I've got two kiddies and bills
and everything. I kept be paying that shit. So then
I found I found Riverside, and I recognized the name

(59:41):
already because I leave it's Spotify for podcasters. That that
art that lets you already like records directly with Riverside.
I just I never used it because I was using
stream Yard. Found Riverside found their their pricing to be
to be very pleasant. You know, it's it's decent for

(01:00:02):
the amount that you get, for the amount that you
can do for the amount that you get. I'm paying
a very very decent twice a month.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I mean, there are some things that I do kind
of miss from stream Yard, like, for example, my my
wife doesn't want to be on the cap for privacy reasons,
you know, also having to do with personal history and
that kind of thing. Oh on a lot of websites
or like on stream Yard for example, if she's on

(01:00:35):
a round table with me the from especially from the
bush Wish where well that's my ful shaman, she'll she'll
do an avatara. I can't do that on on Riverside yet, though,
like I have have suggested it and gave the example

(01:00:56):
of my wife that for privacy reasons, you know, she
doesn't he doesn't like it. Yeah, So how how I
do that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
You know, I have a couple of pictures, a couple
of just upload of pictures and I'll he'll have her
logo just edited into it for the whole part her
her Witchy whispers brands which he whispers logo hiking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Hey Katy, Katy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah, that's a cat. It's my kiddy co host. What's
that dude?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Is he now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And he's all, yeah, he's he's a oh manah, he's
a he's a big, big grumpy cat. But he's a sweetheart.
He is like my my co host when my wife
is is not here, not around. Yeah yeah, yeah no
he he cats won attention, the attention, so he constantly

(01:01:50):
makes himself known. And my wife was like, hey, we
have another co host, we have Timmy. You're a kiddy
co host. Yeah, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
So you know cats, man, like, have you ever noticed that?
Have you ever been somewhere just strange and the cat
will just show up? They ever before, like or just
been outside and like this cat will just come out
of nowhere and come hang out with you. Have you
ever had that happened to you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
I've been I've been around cats a lot, but they
are very high vibrational beings. I know sometimes especially with
my little one. I got a little little trity, little
trotty cat, little little sweetheart. Yeah, but I gave her
the nickname Houdini because she'll sometimes just disappear on me. Yeah,

(01:02:40):
It's like I swear she was just just here, like
where an Yeah, and then like I go to the
like one of her regular spots that she likes to
to lay in or to lay on, you know, like
the one moment she's not there. It's like, swear she
was just here like a minute, the go, you know,
look all around the house, go back there, she's there.

(01:03:01):
You know, she's hanging out peered again. Yeah, or or
somebody wants to be seen, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
And you know this one does it too, but he's
a little bigger, so it takes takes a bit longer
for him to vibe out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yep. Yeah, I know you men have those bigger cats.
They're fun, man, they they're cool. They have such cool personalities.
You can I don't know. I think I feel like
connecting with crystals that I have, you know, has connected
me a lot more to the animal kingdom and also
to plants, like because dude, I can I can feel plants.
I can, I can I can read animals like their minds.

(01:03:39):
It's pretty cool. Oh wow, I've become very close with animals, animals,
it's weird. They'll like just kind of resonate to me,
and I don't I've never known why, but I thought
it was just the connection to to earth, you know,
and to I don't know, it's cool, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
So we all have this, we all have it. Yeah,
we all do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I'm not special, I'm not any different. I'm not saying
that because we all have these gifts that are all
inside of us. All of it is. It's just tapping
into it or using it, you know, it's just like anything.
We all have this like power. We all have this power,
you know, the christ consciousness. You want to say, we
can all get there, we can all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
No, that's that's true. That is very very true. And
it's you'll see it a lot to that, you know,
the more spiritual communities. A lot of cats actually, and
I don't know what it is. I mean, you'll see
a dog every now and then, big dogs very often,
like just the big dogs. A lot of cats.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
I always consider to myself to be more of a
dog person because you know, you can like run around
with them and play with them and you know all
of that, be hyper and be active and all of that,
and then I I got introduced to h to Timmy. Yeah,
my my cousin introduced introduced me to him because she

(01:05:09):
literally said, like, hey, saw you were you know, you
were looking for pets. I have a I know of
a cat that is looking for a new home, and
he reminds me of you. It's like, okay, sure, so
you know I I went to meet the people who
were taking care of him at that time. You know

(01:05:31):
his just yeah, his caretakers and he's been with me
for a boy for a a no, five years, about
five years, because it was like it was literally like
three three months later that I I met my wife. Yeah,
so I'm surrounded by a lot of gingers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
So check it out, dude. Like when you talk about
when we talk about cats, right, the ancient Egyptians used
cats as a protect and a sacred symbol. They were
very like they had them every like they were their
main pet man because protection, fertility and good health. And
they so I think and we resonate with them, we both.

(01:06:13):
I think when they were splicing human DNA and place
and playing with all that stuff, they made cats and
they made all these other kinds.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Of stuff, and cats never forgot that they used to
be worshiped.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
They never forgot that you're here for me. We're like
their pets.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, well it's that's something I always say. You know,
dogs have owners, cats have butlers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, it's true, man, it is it is. It's that like, yeah,
I know what you mean that energy. That's cool and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It's it's I believe the Egyptian name for cat is
literally mouth. Really yeah, I believe am au okay, And
it's it's kind of like a Pokemon question, like are
they named after the sound that they make? Or like
can they only you know, pronounce their their name or

(01:07:08):
something like so is it? Did the Egyptians call them
mao because they you know, because they keep yowing? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
So it's like I found I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Found that, really found that really interesting. You know how
simple it can be sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, yeah, I want a cat now. I want to
play with the cat. They're fun to pat too, man, Like,
I don't know, they're they're fun to if they allow you, yeah,
if they don't want to bite your finger, and then
they they want you to pet them the right way, right, yeah,
the way they want one don't stroke and it's like

(01:07:44):
they'll not tell you. Yeah, they'll tell you it's like
a nibble or something on your finger or I've had
that happen. It's like, okay, I got you, stand back,
not too okay, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, no, cats are They're amazing beings and each definitely
with their with their own own character, with their own
character traits, but making them so so fun to be around.
I can honestly say that during the whole pandemic that

(01:08:17):
was happening a few years ago, Yeah, I was so
happy to to have timmy then be just having a
small living being to take care of. Is that is
that is just around you? It helps so much. Yeah,
it helps so much more than you things like oh

(01:08:40):
it's a pet. No, it's so much more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah, it's it's almost like they do. I think they
think just as much as we do, or not or
not more, you know, like they're not stupid. I mean
they're not smart, but because they haven't been taught what
humans have been taught, so that they know more about
the like, yeah, they're in stincts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I mean they've been around humans for long enough. Yeah
you know, so, Yeah, I definitely think that that they
they know us, or at least they have they recognize
our basic patterns, right, and for them, we're very very
big cats with very very much less hair. And that's why,

(01:09:24):
you know, sometimes they'll they'll bring you a baby bird,
or they'll bring you a mice, because you know, they
see you going out and coming back in without any food,
and it's like, well, oh, you stupid, worthless hunter. I
love you. I don't want you to starve. Here's a
baby bird, here's a mouse.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yeah, you know. I had a friend and away, well, yeah,
they'll bring presents. I had a friend in up in Arcada,
and her hat would bring the heart from a mouse
or from a bird, or bring her like like certain
orger like literally like it would dissect and take the

(01:10:03):
organs in. It would be perfectly on her doorstep, like
like a president, like you were saying. So that brought
to mind that story. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah, that's a sign of high intelligence as well, because
if it's different organs, then the cat is clearly like, okay,
you know these have you know, these kind of nutrients,
and I believe I feel like that is what she
needs at the moment. I love hurt, so I'll bring
it to her.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, you don't see dogs doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
No, but when at the same time we associate dogs
with you know that that higher intelligence in a way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, well it's God backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
That's true. That is true. I don't I don't know
what it's men's best friends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Yeah. Yeah, I've sat and thought what if dogs are gods?
You know, like they just turn the world around because
they're I don't know, they have to live and they're
always happy. They're never in a bad mood like they're.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Always They're one of very few creatures that will live
that will love you unconditionally. Yeah, as God does. Like
whatever God you you may believe in, No, it is
the Almighty One. You know, he loves you unconditionally.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
And dogs will do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah they do. Man, it doesn't matter what you look like.
And you know, I mean yeah, they have pure unconditional love.
Is amazing. Yeah, some of those qualities at times, well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Well sometimes it's you know, your pet is a better
friends than most friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Yeah, it is, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I mean at least you know, at least your your
cat won't won't step you in the back, won't talk
hide your back, I mean, well, won't talk behind your back.
I think they do. Actually, I think cats gossip.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
They definitely do. Absolutely, I agree totally, I definitely do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Man, the cat's gossip teap. Are you just sipping tea
and gossiping about their about how you've seen them their
owners are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Yeah. If you've seen those videos where people take the
little camera and they put around the cat's neck and
they go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Out, and I've seen those kind of videos, that is adorable.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
It's pretty cool. It's too that you find out that
your cat's the big bully in the freaking neighbor, right,
oh yeah, that's yeah freaking But yeah, dude, I found
this piece of a I wanted to show you. So, yeah,
this is amber, just to throw it back in. Yeah,

(01:12:49):
it does have bugs in it. It does have bugs.
Literally you can see the little flies, you can, yea.
And so it'd be cool if we could take you know,
the DNA and see what kind of DNA and I'm
and go from there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
But it is what it is, right, I've seen the
Jurassic Park movies. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know.
I mean, we can, but then we better bring Jeff
gold woman.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
That'd be cool. Yeah. I think they made an actual
like elephant or because they found the those elephants where
they call the freaking everyone thank you. Yeah, they found
the baby mammoth in the ice.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah, I remember that, trying to bring it back to life.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Or they were going to clone it's possibly, yeah, I
can guarantee that's been done. Like, dude, it's like, who
makes his so called vaccine in six months? Right, unless
you have a bunch of clones you're testing it on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Perhaps, I mean like cloning is a it is kind
of commercial already, Like there are companies that will offer
those services for your pets.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yes, of course, you know you can clone your cat
and your dog.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I mean it's it's going to cost you a pretty penny.
I believe it's like forty fifty k or something. But
still then to to have your kiddy friend with you
for another twenty twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, for some people, it's worth it. Yeah, it is.
I can see that too, you know, I see that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Oh maybe that's that's how all those crazy cat ladies
have like fourteen cats. No, yeah, they started with two
and just cloned them seven times.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
They started cloning them in the basement. Crazy cat Lady's
a freaking scientist.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
The math scientists.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, freaking me, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Have put it past them. Actually, I mean the crazy
cat ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
For a reason, like the crazy cat lady on the
Simpsons and stuff. That's what it reminded me of. Well,
she's all like Hagrid's Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Then it kind of mixed with the like the evil
mind of sucho Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, yeah, it is. Oh another crazy thing with crystals.
You can do divination with it too. People can look
in crystals Like I could hand a crystal to somebody,
usually like a quartz crystal that you can see in,
and they could hold it for about ten minutes and
then hand it back to the person that's doing the

(01:15:24):
divination and they can look in the crystal and actually
start seeing things to help this person out. I've done
it before, and I practiced it in the past. I
have not done it for a long time, and I
can't find the one crystal that I used to do
it with, so I don't. But it's not the practice was.
It's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
That doesn't surprise me. Actually, divination with crystals, that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Well, so I'm trying to figure out, so if we
can program crystals with our minds, how are we doing it? Well?
The pineal gland. Pineal gland is the seed of the soul, right,
and it also it spins and it has crystals in it,
so the eyes allow for light to go into the
brain and the pineal glands right here where the where

(01:16:09):
the spine comes up. Yeah, and so the light comes
in and there's these little crystals on the pineal gland
that get activated, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
That's why also like the the hazel, the electric kind
m hm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
No, Like well, I mean, do you mean in the
head or yeah? I thought I they're probably they have
to asclay. Do you mean the one the pineal gland.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yeah, I believe like they there is like some sort
of crystallization going on there as well with the piezoor
electric crystals or but then like more natural kind, yeah,
something something like that. That's been a it's been a
while since I've looked in through that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yeah. No, it's cool. It's it trips me out because
I feel like when I program crystals, I'm programming from
right here? Am I conscious? But I feel like that
has to come from something so like a chakra, like
the third eye chakra that spins, and I think I
can't remember the frequency of the third eye chakra.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I mean chakra literally means wheels, So yeah, you're right, Yeah,
it spins.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
There's like three chakras that are three. They have a three, six,
and a nine in it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
But of course, oh that makes me. That actually makes
me think, since you know we're in that time of
recording twenty fifth of January, we're in that planets are realignment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Dude, Yes, and it is very special.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Like doesn't planets if we go by the mainstream story,
let's say, don't they also spin?

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
That's what they say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
They are on different light spectrums. So kind of a
bit of a bit of off topic perhaps, but it
makes me nothing cool. Could you say that then, like
the planets are the chakras of our solar.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
System, Dud's that's a good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
That's then with the Sun being the pineal glant the
source of light.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Wow, that's really cool. Stein, that's really cool, man. I
just saw a big picture of that. They gave me
kind of Leani bro that was cool. Yeah, very good. Yeah,
Like they're all spinning and moving.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
In different light spectrums, different colors, kind of different. I
just saw that today, at least like the light spectrum
you know that they are on there Mars, the red
planet where you know, like the kind of green blueish
planets we have the blue planets of course in Venus
and Neptune. I would I would have to ask shaman

(01:18:49):
that or just like kind of do it myself, like
the planetary alignment with the chakra system, like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
If that's signifying or representation of it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Red the roof shop, while very like a basic emotions
wars minutes one of war wolf war thing. Yeah, not
birth will be one higher. Maybe it's the only suppose
we know, the only third out products in our solar system.

(01:19:26):
It will kind of line up with the genitalia where reproduction, fertility,
et cetera comes from.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I would have to look into that. I would have
to like try line that up, get a couple of
people together. I know who I who I should should.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
But it's like seven planets, seven chakras, right, yeah, exactly,
there's seven of everything. Pro I mean not everything. But
when you look into things, but when you're saying if
they spin, So I've looked at Jupiter night after night
before with the telescope, and if you do that, you
can see the moons that actually moving around it. Because

(01:20:05):
if you look at it the next night. They're in
different places and it has four moons and it's it's
crazy because it's so small. And then you can even
see the little red stripe that's there too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
You can see Saturn's rings, which is pretty amazing. But yeah,
seeing that with my own eyes their telescope, man, it's
pretty cool because you don't realize how much is out
there that's moving around and doing its own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
So I think it makes you appreciate everything just so much.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
More, absolutely, man, absolutely, like, yeah, I think all the
planets do correspond to a certain chakra. Actually I are no,
because they're astrology, so each strological sign has a planet too,
but there's all astrological signs teen technically.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
But well then I know exactly who to who to
talk to. Mario from Symbolic Studies. I did a show
with him on the symbol of X and Janice. It
was that was the first show that that art on
my my channel this year at least because I found that,

(01:21:25):
you know, to be very appropriate. Yeah, three weeks ago,
X marks the Spot and the Dualism of Janice with
Mario from Symbolic Studies. He does a lot of as
you know, the name suggests a lot of deep diving
into symbols and symbolism, and he will take astrology with
it that he's doing. He's doing a whole thing on

(01:21:46):
astrology now going you know, month by month he is
since we are you know, at the end of January,
he is working on and posting content about Capricorn at
the moment. Oh yeah, myself being a Capricorn, I find
it very interesting of course. Or are we No, we're
in Aquarius already, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Oh in the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Like, no, the astrological signe because I know that my
birthday the twentieth, like five days ago. It's like right
on the cuse of Capricorn and Aquarius. Yeah, but yeah,
if you want to, if you want to know more
about that symbolic studies, Mario, he is phenomenal in that's

(01:22:31):
doing amazing, amazing work.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
You check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean the the whole show
that I did with him on X and Janice was
very interesting and those two are connected even I had
no idea. I mean, you'll see like a lot of
X things. You know that the platform of course, X
marks the spot and the triple X and yeah that,
but he connected it like all in in such a

(01:22:59):
beautiful way, and I was just sitting there like, dude,
this is so cool and this makes so much sense
now that you're like putting it together and making those connections.
Its like, yeah, yeah, that that adds up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Yeah that's cool, man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
There's another reason why I love doing this because I
get to learn so much while having fun doing it.
Actually for the first for the first fucking time in
my life, I'm having fun like learning things, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
It's it's probably the coolest way too, because it's people
from like all over the realm.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Yeah, you're there's so many, so many different kind of
backgrounds and interests and specialties and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Cultures and dude, like those deep it's pretty cool. Have
you got like anybody from India ever or anything like that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Yeah, I mean I I'm not sure if he's actually
from and yeah, he might be. But Jin the Ninja
also has his own show, Threshold Saints. He does a
lot of a lot of Eastern mysticism. He's very very
well versed in that, and that's also what his what

(01:24:13):
his show is about, like a lot of Eastern mysticism
and he'll take people from that part of the spiritual
community and all, and he'll have have them on his show.
I've done on a couple of shows with him. So yeah,
for the Eastern Eastern stuff, I I go to I
go to Gin, I have my people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Podcasters of course, or you know, started out as as
guests on numerous shows and we're then like I like this,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this too. That's
how I started. I started listening to podcasts. Then the
first time I was a guest on a show was
My Third Eye with with Ghosts. He goes by ghost

(01:25:00):
my Third Eye. So it is an interesting potter. He's
been going for a long time. And that's how I
also got connected to generally from subconscious realms. That's how
I got connected to Nick from the Occult Rejects. Great guy.
If you want to know about the occult, find him,
contact him. He is The occult is a mystery, you know, Yeah,

(01:25:23):
but he's he knows so much about it. He's been
a member of the OTO. He's he's been in the
OTO for for a while but decided to leave because
there was just too much bullshit going on. But he
you know, he still takes the lessons and you know,
works with with what he learned himself, and he now

(01:25:46):
also talks about it on his show The Occult Rejects.
He started with a with a co host former Golden
Dawn member. Actually so was a former OTO member and
a former Golden don member could rejects.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
That's cool. That is way cool.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
And now he is like he's gained a great following.
He's like, you know, very close to twenty five k
on YouTube. He is I believe one hundred k plus
on Instagram, all non monetized, by the way. Really, I
mean there are ways that you can you can support him,

(01:26:21):
of course, but he doesn't have his channel monetized because
you know, it's it's about the sharing of information for him,
and he does it. He does it well. You know,
he's uh, he's very popular. Yeah, you know. I I
got started just as a as a fan of those
those podcasts, and now I can consider myself to be

(01:26:42):
one of them. It's yeah, that's been my story, my
ride for the last four four or five years.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Nice. That's cool, man, It's been a trip. But it's
a lot of good information in the that in le
cult and everything, like all the other podcasters. So many
podcasters are putting out so much great information and doing
great things. Yeah, so yeah, I hope more people do
that more and come and listen to more of your

(01:27:09):
podcasts and listen to more of your guests, and you know,
and branch off and learn more because there's so much
great information here that's tangible, like you can touch it.
Because there's just so many people in there that will
be like, here, research this, he'll shoot you something or
you know. But it's that's awesome you're getting these guests
because it's phenomenal, dude, Like you can always go back

(01:27:31):
and watch it again and re learn something maybe if
you didn't remember something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Or I've had so much. I've had some people on
the show at the low number, low ish number that
I'm at. I've had Thomas Sheridan, but he was one
of my first big girl names. At least.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
He's a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Powerful wizards irishman, so knows a lot about that mythology
as well. He's a he's a good guy. I was
so incredibly nervous because he was I considered him to
be you know this. I had him on because he
had like a big following and he's a powerful wizard
in his own right and very proficient, very knowledgeable. So

(01:28:08):
I was incredibly nervous. But then I got on the
on the show with him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
And he is so chill nice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
He is so chill Mario. Like I mentioned from some
WELK studies. I was very happy to to have him on.
That was cool. I done a few shows with Nick
from The Occult Rejects, the latest one being on the
on the Black Sun Swatsasuna.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Yeah, like he he went on like a variety of
podcasts too to tell about it, because he has he
has had some amazing experiences, some awesome experiences with with it,
very very occult. So if you're into that, do find it,
do listen. And one that I I never thought I
would I would even get on the show Tom Rousel

(01:28:55):
from Survived the Jive.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
I haven't heard that one yet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
He is a he's a pagan, pagan content creator, researcher,
very much about the the scientific part of it all.
Like he'll do a lot with genealogy, a lot with
the you know, the symbols of the gods, et cetera,
et cetera. Just put out a new documentary about the

(01:29:21):
history of the use of the swastika or the hacken koits. Yeah,
so that's really cool. The Gary Wayne, the Nepheline guy
really yes, and another Nepheline guy actually but connected to
clowns and clowning ale stops sorry, like dressing up as

(01:29:48):
a clown, no, actually being clowns. That the Nepheleine are clowns,
that they present themselves as clowns, and we we kind
of went into the history of clowns and how looked
and why they look the way they look. Also touching
on the topics of like gestures in the UH the
d m T realm for example, because a lot of

(01:30:10):
people will say that they've they when they you know,
have have hit d MT or or shreams mostly d MT.
I believe that they'll see like these these gesture forms.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Yes, you can see them actually come in the carpet
out of the walls, and they'll make weird ass faces
at you. Yes, smile, they'll fucking laugh at you. Yeah, dude,
it's I it's creepy. But you can put them on
on the shelf. You can control that ship, dude, at
least I've been able to.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Now, I'm thinking, because you know, they they're they're called
like machine elves as well. With that kind of be
could you connect that to like elve on the shelf?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Yeah, yeah, similar, Yeah, I think so to some degree.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Yes, absolutely, making attinds of connections. That's so cool. Yeah,
and that was that was so that was such a
such a fascinating, fascinating episode. Kind of creepy as well,
but yeah, no, that was. I've I've had some I've

(01:31:14):
been very fortunate to have some amazing people on. I
I don't mean to don't mean this as as bragging,
just you know, I've been I've been very fortunate that
I I've had a lot of a lot of interesting
people on. Oh and with the clowns and seeing them,
I actually a bit a go. I had a tattoo

(01:31:34):
artist on who spoke about tattooing as the as a
spiritual practice. He is a tattoo artist himself as well,
of course. Yeah, and he's actually seen clowns or like
clown like entities attached to the people that he is tattooing.
They will appear, they will make themselves known when he

(01:31:56):
is tattooing them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
My question is is he seeing it in three D
or two D? Because a lot of times, these things
will come out in two D on surfaces and they'll
I always have to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Actually, Mark new I mean, is uh he Actually, I'm
very thankful he did. Actually I'm not sure if I
shared it in The Gods and Unchained, but he started
his own his own channel and one of the first
videos that he did was on the The Unfortunately Died

(01:32:32):
during the Getting Back tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I saw that a yeah, I saw that video and Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Used a he used the clip from the from the
show that we did on it because we predicted it.
It's like, if you're doing forty hours and just like
your whole back in one sitting and getting you know,
like under anesthesia and all of that, that's that's not
good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
It's fucking stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
It's crazy these that this prediction came through. I wish yeah,
on that show as well. It's it was a matter
of time before something really went wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, dude, but that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Yeah, I've I've had so many different people, so many
different stories, experiences, you know, one even crazier than the other.
But there are old stories and I love stories. It's
a different kind of storytelling. Yeah, that's that's you know,
that's the art of of my people. That's the art
of European people. That's how we remember who we are

(01:33:39):
through the art of storytelling.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
That is good. I like that. There's not there's not
enough of that here because it is in certain spots
when you get into those groups and things. So it's
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Yeah, but I mean it's more it's still more like
religious and like pagan focused. You know, the stories I'm
out of Appalachia for example, very pagan. There is still Yeah,
those are some crazy, crazy stories they have. Yeah, I
think we ought to wrap it up here because in

(01:34:13):
twenty minutes I have my next guest on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Okay, no, I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
This has been amazing. This has been it's been really
really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Yeah, it's been very great. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Yeah, no, absolutely, man, thank you, Thank you for coming on.
Thank you for for teaching me and teaching my audience
so much on crystals, the powers of crystals, the different
kind of crystals, showing a bit of your your stash
which is probably gonna grow to twice thrice its size
over the coming years.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
I need to get rid of some so but I
have like, yeah, I can make necklaces out of anything
pretty much. You know, there's the Shamanic DDT Earth. Please
check it out and make little necklaces or even some
like this or this is another one I'm working on
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Oh cool.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Yeah, so they're they're pretty magnificent. This one's about twenty
years old. Wow. Okay, but I got this one on
my site and just just kind of some examples and
they can be petite. I'm also making earrings right now.
I've got some more parts coming in, some more silver race.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
That's what you were we're on about with with Micah,
one of my moss because she she recently got the
like new new ear brings earn showing it off.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
So yeah, we thank you for having me so much. Stein.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Of course it's my pleasure. I will I will make
sure that all your links or at least the Showman
adult ear if you make some amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Sun is like link tree. If you go to my
link tree Shamanic Daughter Earth, that'll take you to my Instagram.
I'm getting my TikTok set up for that and it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Will take you to the website. Awesome. I'll make sure
that well. Then at the very least your your link
tree is up in the description down below, so I
do prevent everybody to to check it out. If you
if you like what you what you have seen so far.
If you like what you have heard, then grab yourself
a piece for sure. Yeah and above I'll leave alike

(01:36:25):
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(01:36:45):
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(01:37:06):
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This just another amazing episode of the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Very much for watching and like, remember to like, share,
the best, describe and thatation, So you're going to have
you come up, come back around again with where my
wife can actually join us because she ass for everything else,
for everything else, and she loves crystals and us to

(01:39:12):
do the gay crystals. So it's probably gonna be one
of those shows for now and just sit back and
let her do. It's just let kind of be the
producer director of of things.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Nice. Yeah, I'd love to I'd appreciate that very much.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Thank you, yeah, no, of course of course.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Thank you everyone for much and thank you everyone for listening.
We will see all next time, which will be very soon,
sooner than you think you. Thank you all.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Bye bye

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