FullTime Fantasy--Challenging ADP

Tune in with host Adam Krautwurst as he is joined by special guest and High-Stakes grinder Glen "Snake" Karant. The guys will recap a recent Circa Las Vegas draft that they both did.

also...

-When to avoid ADP
-When to plant your flag
-Late round gems.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Full Time Fantasy Podcast. Please have me by the Fantasy Football
World Championship, home to the industry'smost accurate rankings. What is up everyone?

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Welcome to the Full Time Fantasy FootballPodcast. I am your host,
Adam Krautwurst for this grind time showand with me tonight the Man, the
Myth, the legend in the ffw C streets, High stakes Officionado,
high volume player Glenn Snake. Welcometo the show, my friend, Adam.

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Sir Adam, it's a pleasure asalways to see you. Last time
I saw you was just about ayear ago on the dot. So we're
now a year older and hopefully morepresumably a year wiser from learning from our
mistakes, and uh, we're gonnaknock it out this year like we usually
do. Know, Yeah, no, I I completely agree. We got

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to get wiser every year. II know, last year was not one
of my better years for sure.And yeah, it's just lots of injuries
and stuff to deal that we thatwe dealt with last year, lots of
just different crazy things that happened.But but listen, the best players get

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better and you're gonna have bad years. I mean dude, even think about
you know, professional poker players.Man, even those guys have losing seats,
losing years where they lose tens ofthousands of dollars or even more so.
And this is comtally. You know, the players that we draft here
have the same thing. They havebad years. You know, you think
about it, how things change frommoments to moment. When you go to

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work every day, you can goin and wake up on the wrong side
of the bed and just go inand have a bad day, and then
the next day you can go inand have a brilliant day. And that's
how life changes from day to dayat work. Imagine how it changes from
week to week or year to year. The possibilities are kind of endless and
that's that's life. You know,change absolutely one hundred percent. So but

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dude, I'm so happy to everyother show. I know. The thing
I love having why I love havingyou on the show is I don't have
to come down with some show sheets, some rundown. Here's what we're going
to talk about, because I knowwe can just vibe on two or three
topics. We can talk ball allnight, talk about the ADPs and the
players. I know, We're gonnaget a bunch of people in the check
because I know people respect your opinion. Lot on here, I'm in the

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discord and stuff. But before wereally get going, I want to talk
about tonight, the Las Vegas FantasyChampionship. There's a draft tonight everyone at
ten pm. It's half full.I am. I'm in it tonight.
So after after the show, I'mgonna jump in that draft at ten ten
pm. I know Snake's done abunch of these already. I'm probably this
will e be number five or sixfor me. Eleven eleven Snake Snakes eleven

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deep. So so yeah, weare half full already. It's going.
It's going to fill. Get in, Get in now, guys, and
uh these this is this is themid stakes draft here for the for the
FFWC, the Las Vegas Fantasy Championship, ten pm Eastern time. So definitely
jumping that guys. You know,talking about the guys. I don't know
how many are watching now, butyou know, twenty four hours from right

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now, Adam, there's going tobe an event where two elderly and presumably
American statesmen, right, that's right, are speaking and they're supposed to have
an estimated audience of one hundred andfifty million. Incredible, incredible, So
if we can get half a percentof that number tonight, we'll take it.

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Smash the like other one, markMan, Listen, you're actually gonna
people are gonna learn something tonight.I don't know what you're gonna learn tomorrow
night, but tonight you're definitely gonnalearn something. So smash the like button
for sure. Follow along and snakerownight, we're gonna learn that we're in
trouble either way. Oh my god, what a mess, What a mess.
But listen, Snake and out tonightare gonna break down. We're gonna

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talk about ADP kind of when toplant your flag, when to avoid ADP,
stuff like that, and we're gonnabreak down this draft that we did
uh together or get you know againagainst each other. I guess you could
say the other the other night.This is at Las Vegas Fantasy Championship mid
Stakes team here three fifty over atthe f f w C, and I
drafted out of the Where was Ithe four hole team? Green Scott loves

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put me in these and give meall these sarcastic Celtics names or whatever,
tonight. I think I'm in theten PM. I'm thinking like the Nicks
are coming for you or something likethat. He's you know, he he
hates to he loves to hate myself. It's but I was team Green in
this and Snake is always snake,right, you don't. You never change
your name when you're going in thedraft room. No, that's my namesake.
That's who I've been since junior highschool. That's my nickname. I

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can't shake that. I love it. Bloodstream flowing in my DNA. I
would have to get you know,Keith Richards like bloods, trans transport,
transfusion to get that out of mybloodstream. Well, listen, snakes.
Snakes are cold blood, aren't they. So I don't know, maybe you're
cold blood in this draft room here, but oh yeah, I might have
been a little bit cold blood.But I think I had a little bit
of assistance in terms of this specificdraft. And you know the reason why

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why? Well why is that?Well, you know the ol addage.
Timing is everything in life, absolutely, Okay, So in this particular draft,
I was blessed with a six hole. Yeah, everybody from one to
five, including yourself at him bymy estimation because I take note of these
things has been in either two ormore drafts this year, and everybody from

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six over where I am is eithereither their first draft or only their second
draft. Yeah, as opposed tothree or more. I'm saying, yeah,
yeah, no, I get it. You know, you kind of
get you feel the flow of thedraft if you've been in a few and
the first time you're in, Iknow, the first draft I did this

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year and every year, I'm alittle bit yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I mean, could youtell when Team eleven went four straight
running backs that it was their first? That it was their first? Now,
I will say Fazzi. You know, Jeremy Brock five for Fazzi.
Dog usually in these is a veryexperienced drafter, and he went with four
running backs one time. But it'svery difficult to do. And we'll we'll

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talk about a lot of a lotof these teams. But at the ffw
S, this mid stakes circle LasVegas, you start two running backs,
you start three receivers and two flexso generally you will see receivers fly off
the board. It's it's it's almostimpossible to get away with four running that,
especially when Zimir Whites is your RBfour and the fourth Rob. But
we'll talk about that more later.But I started off with with a hero

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RB build. I went, Iwent Breese Hall. I could certainly see
Breese Hall being the RB one thisseason if McCaffrey and Hall are healthy.
I would certainly put my money onMcCaffrey to be the RB one if they
played some money games. But McCaffrey'sa little bit, a little bit older,
a little bit more run down.So I do. I do like
the odds for bres Hall to bethe RB one this season for sure.
So that's the route that I wentat the one O four at one O

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seven, were you just six orseven? You were the one O seven
seven? Yeah? Yeah, youtook Garrett Wilson, who I absolutely love
this year. Tell the people whyyou love get Garrett Wilson for many of
the same reasons you love Garrett Wilson. But before I say that, I
think you're in a better position beingin four than one, because I wouldn't

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want to be. You know,hob tied to having to pick mccaffreys as
the running back, and I knowthe same statement is made every year since
he got injured. But three yearsago and he's been okay since then.
But you know, you make agood point with Brice all over McCaffrey,
and I think it's a safer andmore secure comfort zone place to be at

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four or five when you can lookat Breee or Bijon as opposed to McCaffrey
at number one. I don't Idon't want to be in that one spot
this year. Actually, it scaresme, dude, I totally I totally
agree, and I usually never haveto worry about because you know you only
have a one of twelve chance ofgetting it. Dude. I've been doing
so many of like I don't careif I'm doing like one of these smaller
best ball type of things, butlike I've been getting one on one in

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some of these midsteak stuff way morethan I'm than I want, especially this
early in the year. And I'vejust I've taken McCaffrey because I'm a high
volume player. So like if I'mI want my McCaffrey shares, in order
to get him, you usually gotto takem to one on one. I
got him at the one O threeone time, but you usually got to
begument to one O one so butI don't. But I'm with you,

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like, you know, you don'twant to fade him, so like when
you're there, you got to takehim, but then you just you know,
it just kind of feels gross.Yeah. No, Actually I did
the draft with you before this onewhere we did did take McCaffrey at one
O three. I believe it wasyou're right and and it but it felt
gross last year. So maybe it'sall over again because as long as the

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man can stay on the field,you can't argue against taking him number one.
But having said that, the guardchanges every year, and I wouldn't
mind Bruisol or Bijon as an anchorrunning back. I think he made the
right call there. But yeah,tell me abobout about Garrett Wilson. I
want I want to hear your thoughtson Garrett Wilson. Errett Wilson, I
feel the same way that you do. You know, ag we had this

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conversation a year ago to the day, almost we were so high on him.
I was actually after Jefferson and Tyreekand Lamb. Actually I did well
on Lamb last year. He wasI picked him to be ahead of Tyreek,
to be honest, but I alsohad Garrett pretty high last year,
and I got burned because we allknow why. I mean, the whole

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world knows why. But I'm inon him for the same reasons this year.
I worry about the offensive line,of course, I think he I
tell you what, Honestly, ifI were picking in the World Championship League
and all the loot was on theline, I would take Garrett Wilson.
It's my first wide receiver on theboard. I freaking love that I've I've

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I think in the magazine coming out. In fact, I think that's where
the road I got hit. That'sit's hitting shelves in July second. I
think I should brought Scott throw thatthrough in that chat. We're gonna bnounce
that, right. I think themagazine's coming out July second. I think
I put in there like my big, my big breakout, or my like
my my pick. Light like thatwas that Garrett Wilson was gonna be a
top three receiver this season, andI could absolutely see him as well on

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the top one. Why not Aright exactly, And that's why I'm happy
that that you said it, becausebut again it's contingent. He's tied at
the hip to Rogers staying healthy andthe Jets offensive line play, but sheer
talent and opportunity. I'll argue thathe hasn't more than any other wide receiver
that you are looking at in thefirst or second round. There, I

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know, I know, he wasso good over one thousand yards with the
worst quarterback you'll ever see, youknow, just and not not much dark.
I mean, he's got Mike MikeWilliams there, but Mike Williams might
help. He's not going to startthe season, will probably be on the
pop and then whole help will helpwith the defenses. And Rogers loves locking
into that number one white out thinkDevanta Adams for years and years. And
so that's the type of season Isee Gary Gigary Wilson having so well.

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And that's what we saw one yearago as well. But those are the
best laid plans of mice and men. Off to go is straight, That's
that's right. So you know,hopefully Rogers won't tear his achilles or break
a kneecap or acl or whatever itmight be. Because the guy is getting
up in eight. So that isthe risk component that's factor into Garrett Wilson
not very arguably being the first receiveroff the board, because if Aaron Wilson

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was Aaron Rodgers was Aaron Rodgers offive years ago or more, it wouldn't
even be a problem. I thinkGarrett would go first, right, Yes,
I completely agree with you with DADTmaybe I'm with you. You and
I agree on this, so yeah, for sure, look out for you
down the road. Actually, Iknow just Snake's taking notes over here for

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sure. So second round you cameback around wide Receiver twelve, Jalen Wattle
falls into your lap here. I'ma big Jalen Wattle guy. I struggle.
I struggled to have to take himin the mid second round. But
when the wave receivers flaff the boardyou're at the FWC, it's almost like
that's like the next the next receiver. Are you mixing too, your high

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volume guy? Draft number eleven.Is Waddle a flagplant guy for you,
Snake? Or is he like youknow what last time I took London,
last time I took time before that? Or see the guy that you absolutely
love? All right, So lastyear I had a bit of an off
year. I mean I finished fifthoverall, one of my teams in the
LVFC for fifty K, but overallmy winning percentage was not where it used

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to be. So I went backand I did some research like any smart,
diligent owner would, and I suspectedwhat I did was actually what I
did. It confirmed that when Ipicked according to ADP more or less and

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who's available as opposed to getting myguys, I didn't succeed when I picked
my guys and just said okay tome, yeah, you know, it
went my way. For some reason, something was in my mind. I
did turned off of everything that Ipreached the gospel on every year, Adam.

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I don't know what compelled me todo it. I really don't,
but last year I straight. Soto answer your question, I like Wattle
ahead of A Lave. I hada Pittman, ahead of Evans, ahead
of Nico, I had of DJMoore all the receivers that went after him.
I would have liked Drake London afallu to me honestly, but I'll
take Wattle over all the others afterthat, so I don't mind getting him
in the middle. Second, Nowtell me why you wouldn't take and what

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were the aforementioned the receivers that Ijust said, Yeah, so I I
really like Wattle. Let me pullup the board here again. I like,
well, so Olden was already gone. Evans, Pittman, a lave,
Nicole, Nico Collins. So honestly, the only receiver in this group
I would take over him fairly consistently. Would probably be Mike Evans only because

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obviously he's proven he's done it.He's he stays healthy year in a year,
e year out. But other thanthat Snake, I would, I
would, I would take Waddle.I just and this is a hard this
is I don't know if it's abias or whatever, but I hate the
idea of taking like wide receiver twelve, especially because okay, so to me,
it's a flat the cop out natureis, it's a flat tier to

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me. The Wattle, Evans,Pittman a lave. Those guys, even
I yuk I might have in there, Like I feel like I'm a high
volume guy too, not only highstakes. So I'm just gonna take bits
and pieces of all of them.But Waddle is definitely one of the guys
that I like in there. Soin your group, I don't have I
don't have the same players. Ihave one or two that you just aforementioned

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out of that group. I don'thave them even for okay reasons. I
mean, Pittman's not in my groupthis year. I hit on Pittman big
time last year. Yeah, buthe's not in this year because the same
guy that threw him a ton ofpasses, you know, throughout the year,
and he was peppered. He hada lot of targets, is you
know, in a different team.It's not guarding the Michigan issue anymore.

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So I don't think I mean,Pittman's a great receiver, he's a possession
receiver. You got the majority ofthe targets. But it's a new game
this year. It's a new quarterbackand things might change. So I'm not
as high on Pittman or in thatouted Houston receive a corps. Yeah,
Nico, I'm not as high onNico either, Yeah, for sure.
So for me, you know,the only one I considered there was a

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lave and and you know, assetallocation and diversification, I mean, if
you're a high volume drafter, yeah, I mean you need to do some
asset allocation and diversification in your portfoliowith different players. I mean, let's
be honest, but you know what, I'm going to ditch that theory a
lot this year. I really am, And I'm going to do like forty

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or so teams. I'm not goingto try for so much adam for ascid
allocation and diversification. I've now convincedmyself that I'm going back to the old
snake. Last year was kind ofan outlier for me. No excuses.
I was not I didn't have agreat season that I'm used to having it.
So the reason I think was becauseI wanted to asset allocate and diversify.

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It didn't work for me. I'mgonna be honest with you. I'm
sticking to my guys. Yeah,and is one of my guys. Yeah,
No, I totally, I totallyrespect. My thing about about Wattle
too, is that like with withwith if Tyreek Hills, healthy Wattle can't.
He can't hit that ceiling that maybeMike Evans could, or in a
Lave could or a Pittman could becausethey are the number one. They are
the number one guys. But Ilove again Wattles. I think Wattle,

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a healthy Wattle is a very safe, very safe pick. He's going to
finish well. I don't think he'sonly safe. I think Evans is the
safer of the two that you mentionedthan Waddle. He's probably as a as
a lower floor, I mean ahigher floor, but Wattle arguably has a
higher ceiling. So I like guyswith higher ceilings as opposed to higher floors.
Yep, when I draft, especiallyin these in these in these tournaments,

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right you're you're shooting for the fiftyk, you're shooting for the you
know, the two hundred k stufflike that. When you're shooting for these
f fw C events, you've gotyou got to shoot for the moon for
sure. You play to win.I mean, you play the first place
or you're in last place. Inthe middle doesn't mean anything. Six or
seventh places is bullshit. And youget a lot of you know, there's
a pet peeve of mine. I'llgo ahead and say it. I'm not

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going to mention any names, butthere's a lot of high street state drafters
to do do large volume plays,and they do asset allocate, and they
do diversify, you know, theirportfolios of players, and they're winning percentages
aren't that great? You know,for the most part, there's one specific
guy who just I don't even knowif he does his homework on players.

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He just goes according to ADP,who's ever there at the top of that
list at any position. He'll pickbased on value, And to me,
I'm not a value picker. Youknow, If I don't like a player,
I don't care if he's I don'tcare if he's ten spots below is
ADP or ahead of his ADP?Which one is it? If you don't

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give his ten spots past ADP takinghim, I don't. If I don't
like him and I got a guywho I like better, and then that
his ADP is five or six orseven below his, I don't care.
I don't give a shit. I'mtaking my guys, g Y, g
D. Get your guys. Damnit. Absolutely who's a guy uh in

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the first uh? Three rounds here? Snake, Well, we'll get into
I just took a lobby. Idon't have much to say about him.
At the end of the second Ithink he could he could. He could
be the guy here too and havea heavy year. Plus he was the
kind of the guy there that Iliked in that in that that tier.
But going into the third round,here, who's a guy that's in the
first two rounds. That's one ofthose guys for you. It's like,
listen, I don't care if ifhe's there for me in a late third,

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I am not taking this this thisguy. Oh, there's a bunch
of guys and unfortunately, rather it'sone of those that you picked, Stefan
Diggs. Okay, now, nowyou just said that the Houston backfield was
crowded with Nico, So why didyou pivot to Diggs. I'm curious here.
Yeah, it's gonna be two orthree are getting hit. Two of
them are gonna pay off at theira DP, but one's not. They

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can't just can't do it. Yeah, I think unless Stroud throws from eight
thousand yards, which do I letme see, do I have Do I
have Stroud in this one? UhNo, no, I don't. I
why why I think? Here's myhere's my theory, Adam. This is
why you and I are different,and everybody who plays this game is different.
We're all either sellers or buyers onspecific players. We have the information

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that's out there, just like thetwo gentlemen that I afore mentioned that are
gonna be debating tomorrow night. Informationand slash disinformation is out there in tons
of volume, but it's up toyou and I and other players to decipher
that information. And you know whatreally fascinates me is what makes somebody a

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buyer on a specific player versus aseller. Is it their nature and nurture
aka their genetic predisposition and their lifeexperiences or you know, how do I
get too profound here a philosophical butwhat makes somebody a buyer a seller when
we all have access to the samedamn information? That's that's what makes it

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fun, right. I think weall look for certain for certain things we
all like, like for example,with with with with the digs, for
example, like I don't want thenumber one drafted. I don't want the
highest drafted receiver in this class,and you're absolutely right, or two of
these receivers are gonna hit. ButI think the thing about it is,
I think two of them are gonnahit differently. Let's just let's say justify

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their ADP. I think that's that'sa better statement. We sure, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yes, yes, two of them are under justify
their ADP. My thing is,I think it's gonna be a different but
way we're going to set a lineupwhen we're going to like actually score fantasy
points. I think it's gonna betwo of them a week. We don't
don't know which ones are gonna be. The odds are to me that it's
gonna be Digs more consistently. Andyeah, there'll be weeks where he's number

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three, right, but I thinkmore often than not he'll be in the
top two, will be in thattwo that are going that they're going to
hit. I think Digson Collins orDiggs and Dell. But Digs is that
it is the most likely to beone of the two. That's a great
way to put that. And soI mean he's only thirty. The offense
that I think is gonna be explosive, and and again we're talking wide receiver
twenty one, Like I think hecan certainly do that there for them,

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And and I do like Milik Neighborsa lot too. That's a great pick
by you. We haven't gotten thereyet. I have Milik Neighbors. I
took him, I was taking himearlier than even than even this recently,
so I did want to get someaccess to Diggs. So so yeah,
that's why I think I think he'sgonna be consistently in those top two receivers
for them. And I think Scottput it really well on the show last

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week when he came he came outand he said, maybe, like,
are we just gonna be really stupidand like just be like, man,
what was I thinking that Diggs wasn'twasn't going to be good in this this
offense? So and he said,listen, I'm a buffalo guy. Man
Digs plays with a chip on hisshoulder. I think he's got something.
He's a fantastic player the ability inthe world. However, Nico Collins isn't

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too bad himself, and Tank Dellis a favorite target, especially when Dylan
and Colin Collins were together. SoDaves is a new kid on the block.
Arguably he might be the odd manout. I don't know sure for
sure he could be. Yeah,he could be for sure, and I'd
much prefer a little bit later.But again, I receiver twenty one.

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I think I'm okay there. Talkto me about Elik neighbors well, when
I mean, I thought you weregoing to take neighbors and yeah, Digs,
I was kind of happy to behonest with you. I was ecstatic
because Neighbors has been going earlier thanthree seven in most recent drafts that I've
done, and certainly Amari Cooper andCooper Cup to name two receivers have not

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been going before him. I don'tknow what the ADP states. I don't
know if it's to the contrary ornot, but that's my recollection of the
way that the order has been goingon those three receivers. I mean,
Neighbors, it's out there, theinformation is out there. I'll just be
redundant and repeated. He's got allthe talent in the world. He's arguably
on the same talent level with MarvinHarrison Junior. And he doesn't have to

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compete for targets with basically anybody.I mean, they've got no tight end.
They've got Wandelle Robinson, who's,you know, kind of a slot
guy turn and shoot. It couldbe sneaky by the way you want Dale,
but you know he he should bepeppered with over one hundred and fifty
targets, and they need somebody likehim. They even had I'm a Giants
fan, they haven't had anybody likeMalite Neighbors since Odell Beckham so I'm excited

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to watch him. I'm excited forthe targets. I watched him. Man,
he's got that gens Quah on thefield. Yea, he looks good,
Man, he looks good. Yeah. I think he's got that Odell
Beckham to him. Like you said, I think Sean says, if you
really want a champion personally called thetop Dog, we need to have a
tournament basically a single a single entrytournament. I think that's a that's that's

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a great, a great idea forsure. I know some place some places
do have that, and that's youknow a lot of times you just turn
those into hey, it's not atournament, but it's a it's a high
stakes league. It's a two thousandhours league, it's a five thousand hour
league. Is that's how you canreally, you know, get one one
entry in there. It's hard foryou know, sites, sites, your
businesses too, and they got tomake money and try to do a single

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entry thing. But I completely agree, man, I think how I do
I listen? I do high volume, not because I have to it because
I need to. I'm an addict. I have to draft every day.
I'm a chunky. So we have. I'm an addict and I love doing
it. That's why I do it. I don't do it because I think
I need to. I do it, you know what I mean, Like,
I just I gotta. I gota draft all the all the time.

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So it's a brilliant idea that wouldreally that that would that would separate
the uh tenders, you know,the men from the boys exactly. But
no, I completely agree. Butyeah, neighbors stub, I love him.
I love him there for sure,you come back around and I see
you when you want zero RB buildhere, Zay Flowers, you will come

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back with Zay wide receiver twenty sixoff the board. Maybe maybe a little
bit late for him there too,were you were excited studying to get this?
Oh, absolutely, categorically and unequivocallythat's late for Jay. I can
guarantee you that's the latest that Zay'sgone. And then I made stakes fifty
K draft. I mean, lookat the guys I went before him,

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Deebo and Metcalf usually don't go beforeAy and the ones that I've done.
Again, this is my sixth Thiswas number six on the OC. This
three hundred and fifty dollars entry draftso when he was there, I was
ecstatic there was you know, becauseI usually would take two other guys at
that spot that I was expecting,so I would, you know, Zay
Flowers was a gift. It wasgiven to me. Are you are you

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high on the on the the Ravensoffense this year, Derek Henry for coming
to town Andrews getting getting healthy.What's your what's your thought there? Yeah?
Man, I mean I am highon the Ravens passing game. I
mean what's there not to be highon? I mean I Rashad Bateman,
who was a favorite of mine inprevious years, me too of yours hasn't

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shown much so outside of the tightend, who's you know? The Flowers
can show. He could ball.Last year he made a stupid playing the
championship game. I know, buthe's so good. I mean yeah,
it was a stupid play about whatever. He's a rookie receiver, he's electric.
I really like him there for sure. I come back with Higgins,
who I love it wide receiver twenty. I mean, Higgins was a guy

(27:15):
that would every year would go withthe two three turn or even midst last
year was going like mid to latesecond second round, like nothing's really changed.
I mean, and so I likehim as wide receiver twenty eight back
in the same offense Joe Burrow quarterback. He's gonna get single, single coverage.
Yes, he's gonna miss games onehundred percent, but I'll take him

(27:36):
as my wide receiver three wide receivertwenty eight. So I really, I
really like that. Like that,I'm with you. I concur wholeheartedly because
Higgins was a guy I took alot last year. It just the Bengals
are a mess last year. Iknow. Yeah, we did one World
Championship Draft so far in the FFWC, you know, the real high stakes
league, and then Higgins is onmy team. I think Higgins, you

(27:59):
know, he's playing for loot thisyear. He's you know, he's ergised
tagged, so he's got a lotto play for extra incentive. I think
Higgins people are scared of him forsome reasons because, you know, they
think that he's not motivated to playand he doesn't like being second dog to
Chase, and they're jealous of youknow, they think he's like jealous of
Burrow and Chase his relationship because theyused to be former teammates at LSU and

(28:25):
there's all these like negative kind ofconnotations that go around Higgins. It scares
some people off, but not me, And I think you made a great
pick. As a matter of fact, I expected it to either be Higgins
or Pickens instead of Zay for me. So I like your first, second,
and fourth pick. I just questionedyour third one a little bit with
Giggs. No, yeah, that'sthat's fine for for sure. And again

(28:47):
it's we we we broke that down. But yeah, Higgins, I feel
like he's motivated and he's still goodand he's still young, Like you know,
I really really like it. Adam, Adam, I think I think
the Bengals this year could be itcould be the year. Yeah, Houston's

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not going to repeat what they didlast year, and the Bears are still
green behind the ears a little bit, Y're wet behind the years of green.
I think the Bengals are that offensiveteam this year that smokes. Yeah,
that's my pick. Burrows. Burrow'sa stud and the thing the thing
that I love about Burrow is thatall the fantasy points for Burrow go to
everybody else. He's not a runningquarterback. So if you're in that Bengals

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offense. You're getting all the fantasypoints from from him. He's not stealing
gold line push push touchdowns, youknow what I mean, He's not scrambling
and all this. It's gonna goall through those receivers and there's only like
the really the two top alpha dogshere. Let's skip forward a little bit.
So I took Patrick Mahomes and listen, you know, you know I

(29:51):
respect your game, Snake, andyou were all over me last year about
Mahomes, and you were one hundredpercent right. You were one hundred percent
right. He was a bust.You couldn't even like start down down the
stretch. A bad feeling sense isnot feeling it. The snake sets.
Where are you on Beholds this year? Because I'm I feel more confident in
Beholds now than I ever have,and I love taking him at QB three

(30:12):
in the sixth round. I agree, I'm much I'm much higher than Patrick
this year. Obviously, he's gotadded weapons, He's got Marquise Hollywood Brown,
He's got worthy through the draft.Rice, of course, is a
question mark. He could be suspendedtwo games or ten games or anywhere in
between. But but all in all, Patrick is surrounded by a much better

(30:33):
cast. So I have no problemwith Patrick Mahomes going in the fifth round
for you to say, you knowwhat sixth track, Yeah, it's even
better. Yeah, my bad,No, No, absolutely it's even better.
I don't get a quarterback in thefield. I start getting quarterbacks in
the sixth personally. But so Ithink you've got I got you got him

(30:57):
perfect. You waited on a quarterback. He's the second one that was a
good pick. Solid. Yeah,so I got him at as QB three.
It hurts Allen Mahomes and I gotto be asked. I'm kind of
shocked people aren't higher on Mahomes thanyou know, all the things, all
the things you said are so soobvious, right, Like he's got a

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bunch of weapons, Hall of Famecoach. Like do they think it's going
to be a Super Bowl hangover?Like I don't understand, like they've they've
just wanted a bunch of times ina row. I don't know, man,
I love Mahomes is QB three forsure? There Maybe Mahomes has become
like not, maybe he's not assexy as he used to be, right
yeah, yeah, could because maybeit's older man, as opposed to Alan

(31:42):
or hurts some maybe you know thetoush push and Josh is just stud all
around. Maybe Mahomes is losing hissex appeal. Well, I don't know
about it. Maybe Travis Kelsey isstealing at all, going to go going
to the concerts with it. Weknows. But yeah, that's right.
So you come back around and youtake so Jside who I received forty one.

(32:04):
I absolutely love js Side. Rememberremember way back in the day,
as far back as last year,that we used to just blindly take wide
receivers in their second year because that'sthe breakout year. There's not really like
the sticky there's nothing really sticky exceptfor like wide receivers breakout in year two

(32:24):
when you should just take them becausethat's when they break out. That's where
I am with jass Side. Ithink he's talented. I don't think he's
a superstar talent, but I thinkhe's very talented. Again, comes out
of a school that produces receivers inOhio State. I think that year two
I receiver four for forty one.He was starting to come on last season,

(32:46):
new offensive coordinator there. What doyou think? What I think is
that this is what I aforementioned.This is the quintessential example of G Y
G D. Get your guys,damn it, because in Jiba has really
I mean I got him way beforeADP, maybe a full round. Arguably

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he's been going mid mid to eightseven. However, look at the receivers
that went after him, Christian Watson, Deyontay who I like. Watson scares
me. I can't see the restof the board. Oh sorry, I'll
pull it up here just to scrollit to the right. But the receivers
that all went after JSN, Okay, Sutton, Deontay, Watson, Thomas

(33:30):
and Worthy. I mean, forme, this is my rankings. I've
got JSN above them, and that'snot it's not in line with consensus.
But I don't give a fuck aboutconsensus. Yeah, no, I agree.
I like JSN over all of them. Also, yeah, I do.
I mean I like him over Youknow, I was an ideata Johnson

(33:52):
early, but I just I don'tknow, dude, like he's he's a
target monster. But I just thinkthe quarterback there is just so bad and
I want to bet against that,that quarterback, and I want to get
a bet against that offense. Andthe same thing with Courtland Sutton. You
know that that type of thing.And I don't know if I believe in
in you know, Coleman's breakout yet. I mean in Jigma could be the

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numb I mean, Lockett is old, it's thirty one, he's undersize like
he's gonna gonna miss games. It'sin Jigma's time, man, it's Jigma's
time to step up, new offensivecoordinator. I think he's gonna have a
really good year. And even ifhe doesn't completely break out, I think
beating wide receiver forty one numbers,I think it should be really my wide
receiver five here. I don't wantto pass him up. You know,

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I'm not gonna see I can beeasily passed them up for Aaron Jones arguably.
So I mean, if someone's lookingat the board, they can make
the argument justifiably so that you know, why is he picking JSN there?
He could have got he could havegot Aaron Jones and then come back with
I can't see the board, butwho came who went after in Jigba,
you know Coleman or any of theJameson Williams. I didn't look to build

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that way again, you know,I'm a man of my convictions. I
play to win, and I don'tgive a shit about ADP. I really
don't. I let people snicker andsneer when I pick guys that are full
round or around and a half andthey call it a reach. I don't
call it a reach. I don'tbelieve in that, you know. Yeah,

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no, we were talking about thattoday, like listen, in this
world and now it's only June,still right, people are still kind of
making their way through the projections andthe analytics and the profiles and who to
flag play Like a lot of peopledon't even have like true flag plants.
Yeah, they're just kind of makingtheir way through here and doing doing these
drafts. But dude, once it, you know, once it gets to

(35:43):
high stakes season and the main eventsand the FFWC World Championships and the big
money season, that's where you reallystart to see the ADP shift and people
go get their guys, you know, diversifying the portfolio seasons over it's it's,
you know, go play for thebig dollars and your guys season,
and that's so like in August.Absolutely, but again, Adam, I'm

(36:04):
not doing that this year, evenas a modern draft or I'm not so
again. This is the quintessential exampleof me getting my guy right here in
JSN. And I'm surprised you likehim head of the receivers that I took
him the head of because most peopleI don't think would concur with our opinion
here. Yeah. Not not notbased on ADP. That's a that's for
doctor. You know, you knowwhat I mean. So we'll definitely see

(36:25):
how that starts to start us towork out. Now, I see you
went with a heavy zero RB builds. Is that your Are you a zero
RB guy? Is that you're buildingthis one? Do you plan on doing
that more this season? Like?What's your what are your thoughts? Categorically
and unequivocally not, There's more thannine ways to skin a cat and many

(36:45):
ways to win. Zero RB isjust one of them. Did I go
into this draft thinking zero RB?No. I never go into any single
draft particular strategy in mind. Ijust let the draft come to me and
the pieces fall where they may.So I'm sitting here in the middle and
I'm picking off, you know,neighbors. In the third, I'm thinking,
hey, you know, I'm gettingflowers. In the fourth. I'll

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take Kincaid in the fifth and nowI'm looking at BPA, and when it
comes to you know, I've doneit. I got JSN. So that's
the way the draft felt for me. I didn't want Aaron Jones. I
didn't want Warren to me. DeAndreSwift is Warren and Aaron Jones or arguably
even more upside. So I'll takeDeAndre Swift and JSN as opposed to Aaron

(37:30):
Jones and Watson or any combination ofAaron Jones in any receiver that went after
JSN, because for me, thoseguys are on my there are top of
my board. I want my guys. I'm living or dying by my guys.
I'm not going by ADP. I'mnot asset allocating, I'm not diversifying.
I did that. I don't know. I got sidetracked last year.

(37:50):
I did that shit for some reason. I went against my snake sense,
which is you know, it's it'sIt was against my instinct, my innate,
inherent in and and I didn't likethe way the results played out.
I'm not going to do that thisyear. I'm not going to get caught
in that trap at him. No, I got it for for sure,
DeAndre Shift is an interesting player forme, Like I want to love de
Andre Swift. I had him alot last year, you know, taking

(38:13):
him late and then he ends upheading for for for Philly. But he
kind of fell off towards the endof the year. He had like that
big breakout was it Week two orWeek three last season and then disappointed quite
a bite. He was great.Was it week one? Okay? What
whatever ever week it was? Didhe played? They play early on Thursday,
the first game of the year.Was it, yeah? I thought,

(38:35):
yeah, I can't. I thoughtI thought there was Week two.
That God mighty that Week one.But anyways, he kind of faded off
towards the end of the year thereand and it's always interesting to me when
I when I when I seen,let's let's a player walk and then brings
in another running back. Chicago hasa lot of mouths to feed rookie quarterback.
Is he going to throw the ball? Because I think Swift's value is
in the passing game? And arethey gonna because Philly is a beautiful spot,

(38:58):
like like I like Saquon this yearbecause of the situation and Deandertip was
in the same situation last year,they let him and they let him walk.
I just don't know, you know, the coaching staff for the Lions
hated him, and then Jamior Gibbscomes in and lights it up. Obviously
Gibbs is better, but even Montgomerywas better than Swift was there. So
I just don't know how good DeAndreSwift is. And so you know,
they're all they're all valid points,and Swift is not one of my the

(39:22):
guys that I like guys, right, they're all valid points. But I
tell you what, if I'm goingto zero R and B and I'm looking
at the uh the other options,it's nause Montgomery, O'Connor. So I'm
a fence swinger. Man, I'mgoing for a home run. So you
know, I'm either going to hita home run or I'm going to strike
out. Allah, Babe, Ruth, I don't mind if I strike out.

(39:44):
I'm in the last place. Byat a home run, I'm in
the money. I'm in the playoffs, first or second or third. So
definitely how you're ceiling, yeah,he has has higher ceiling because of that.
Offense could be really good and ifthey do pass him the ball,
he could be can be really goodtoo, for sure. They're all good
points and they're all valid. Imean, he did not succeed in Philly,

(40:04):
and it was an ideal situation withthe offensive line, so that it's
a little bit scary. Plus he'sgot two guys breathing down on his neck
who can play also in Herbert andU Rocha, you know, so we'll
see what happens. But but Swiftand the seventh for upside, I'm going
upside. I'm going upside definitely.Joe Burrow, you got Pits in the
seventh round, by the way,which I thought. You know you talk

(40:28):
about the tight ends. I'm goingto give you some kudos and accolades here.
Smith. Pitch is a six tightend off the board, and you
got him a full two rounds roundin a three quarters right after the other
six or other five went off correct, Yes, yeah, Andrews went five

(40:49):
to Yeah, like a round anda half, a full round and a
half, yeah, exactly. Andthat's that's. I forget about the value
that because I'm not a I don'tcare about value drafting. But I like
Pits and if you can had hima full round and a half, which
I guess is inherent with value butyeah, if you can get him around
and a half later, then theother the aforementioned McBride, the Porter,
kin Ka and Kelsey. I thinkthat's a good coup there. That's a

(41:12):
coup to ta Actually I qualified asa coup to ta you to Haiti,
where they have more couped taes inany other country in the entire Caribbean or
worldwide. Arguably Adam. I thinkhe would make a good hitio. Yeah,
i'd me and Kyle Pitts might beHaitian from I know who knows,
uh tight end six Kyle Pitts.I have a Kyle Pits Jersey. I've

(41:34):
always been a Kyle Pitts fan.I think this is finally the year.
The offense is different, the coachesdifferent, all that stuff. I mean,
I think, but for a thousandyards this rookie year, I think
he's just too talented. He washurt last year. So I think I'm
back on the Kyle Pitts bend.Now we all know the story, but
you know what, what makes useither back on the bandwagon or a masochist
to keep coming back for more punishment. So you know I'm with you,

(41:58):
I'm with Pitts. I drafted.It's a lot. Last year he hurt
me a lot. I thought itwould change. I thought, actually Ritter
was an upgrade from from Mariota,like, but it didn't turn to be
the case. You know what I'msaying, And that's what I kept telling
myself last year, like he can'tbe worse than Mariota. He can't be
worse than Mariota. And then heand Arthur Smith is a clown. And

(42:21):
so you know, it was justa perfect and again Pitts was you know,
Pitch was hurt. Like you seethose videos coming out of training camp
where he's like you can barely getin out of his routes, Like I
think he didn't look right. Iactually he didn't look right when he was
playing. You could tell same thingwith Bateman. That's a completely different story.
But those guys play hurt. Someof them play hurt. You know,
I'm not a masochist. If Ibelieve in a guy, I'll come

(42:43):
back for him. And why wouldI not draft Pits or why would you
not draft Pits if you believed inhim before and he had a shit situation
and now he's got in much bettersituation, right close to ideal. Arguably,
why would you stay on him now, as now's the time to take
a shot on him, and he'scheaper than ever. It's not even like
his price went up. His pricewent down, and so you gotta you

(43:04):
gotta get out of there. Forthis is in the same group for me
with King k Kelsey, Laporter,and uh and McBride for sure, and
Andrews. He's in that same group. It's no drop off in tiers there
for me, I've got him allpretty much the same. And that's why
I'll never take Laporter in the thirdround. I don't think there's much of
a difference between a Laporter or am McBride in the fourth as opposed to

(43:25):
pitching the seventh. So I thinkthat's probably your best pick of the draft.
Well, thank you, yeah,no, I I definitely was was
happy to get him there, JoeBurrow, and it was one of one
of your favorite picks. And there'sdraft for yourself. QB nine, I
mean going after guy's like Dak Prescott, going after Kyler Murray. I mean
when he's when when he's healthy,it's the top four or five QB right,

(43:47):
right, Snake Hanson Joey b ismy favorite football player in the league.
There you go. Yeah, I'ma big Bengals fan just because of
Joey B. I'm a Giants fanfirst to a Bengals fan. Second.
I love Joey B's game. Ithink he's got all the talent in the
world. You had in college,you had it in the pros. He's

(44:07):
just been unfortunate with injuries. He'sbeen very unfortunate in recent years and this
year knock on wood, so far, so good again. I think the
Bengals are going to be the topoffensive scoring team in the league this year.
Although I don't live and say it. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. Take Now,I noticed, where are you with stacking?

(44:28):
It's not it's it's it's not bestball. I noticed you didn't take
too h Well you men think himlater, but you didn't. You didn't
play that. Uh. You knowyou took Genos, you did snack in
Jigba. You didn't take to Uh, you didn't take Rogers, you didn't
take Wilson. I mean, thoseguys are very good. You didn't you
had a chance at Lamar Are youare? You do not care about stacking.
It's best ball is only about whereyou do that. Like Best Ball,

(44:52):
naturally, we all know that stackingis the way to go. I
think it's overrated. It doesn't reallyyou know, it doesn't float my boat,
doesn't really get me turned on.Yeah, I'm picking the best guys
and I'm going with the draft.I'm not necessarily looking at the stack.
Why would I pass up a guythat I think is a better scorer for
for a stack which might or mightnot hit. I don't believe in that.

(45:15):
I just don't think it's necessarily agood strategy to have. Yeah,
what are the stats on success ratesfor stats versus non stacks? There any
are there any studies out there thatye think? Yeah? I think for
Best Ball it definitely makes sense,and I think different, Yeah, for
sure. I think for for thefor these bigger tournaments, I think the

(45:36):
idea and you really have to combinethe stacking with like like you know,
you want to stack, so forpeople are most people listening know what stacking
is, but it's like taking aquarterback with one with two or three of
their offensive weapons. I think theidea is you get them and then you
get you know, you get astack. You get into these big championship
rounds thees money rounds, and thatif if if your quarterbacks are going to

(45:59):
hit, his receivers are going tohit two, so you want his receivers.
But it really depends on, likeif you're playing in these tournaments,
how the tournaments work. Is athree week race? Is it week by
week advancement? I know in theFFWC it's a three week race, and
some of it's a five week racetoo, and so, but it really
depends on like their schedule. It'san indoors, it's it outdoors. Who

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do they what defenses do they playagainst? Because if you're just going to
stack a team that's going to faceyou know, the Ravens, you know,
like or or three straight weeks ofreally tough defenses, then you probably
don't want to stack them. SoI think I don't think it certainly doesn't
play as much value in a lineupsetting league than it does you're living or
dying by the sword kind of puttingyour eggs in one basket. Yes,

(46:44):
but again I would like to know. I would really like to know,
not the best ball, the bestball is a different animal. But in
the re draft leagues, I wouldlove to have some some numbers and I've
never seen him anywhere. You know, on on stacked number one wide receivers
and quarterbacks versus you know, aBurrow and a Chase versus a a Stroud

(47:05):
and a neighbors. I would loveto see some numbers on on whether or
not stacks are ultimately successful in redraftleagues. Yeah, I think yeah,
I think it depends on the stack, and I think it depends on the
situation. Like I said, whothey're playing against. I I don't,
I definitely don't don't four stacks.I just brought it up because I saw
that you had taken Burrow and Iand no other receivers with him, which

(47:28):
is fine because I took Mahomes.I don't think I took any any any
chiefs either, so I didn't.Yeah, I don't think you necessarily have
to do it for sure. Pollardand I was gonna say Spears versus Pollard.
You took Spears. I took Pollarda much earlier. Where are you
on that that that backfield which one? Okay, the Tennessee tit. Yeah,

(47:52):
yeah, I don't know. Doyou have a coin in your pocket?
Yeah? Right, f yeah,exactly, so you'll so you'll take
the guy two rounds LA. Iknow, I totally I totally get it.
Yeah, totally totally get it.Yeah. And I think they're both
very, very talented and I thinkeither of them are fine. How about

(48:12):
handcuffing Snake, I you know,I see, I would say, hey,
would you ever consider taking power andspears? Handcuffing is different than stacking?
Are you are you opposed to?It depends on the specific players and
team, you know, it dependson where you go. Were you thinking
about taking spears? No? No, I wasn't. I'm thinking more of
like you know, so, Imean, this is not not off topic.

(48:36):
We're talking fantasy, but like Ikind of like stacking Kyrine Williams with
Blake Krham this year, which iswhat actually what team, which is what
River Dog did, because I feellike in that situation, you've got because
here's the thing with powered and spears. If they're both there and both playing
or whatever, like you don't know, like you said, flip a coin,
you don't know what's going to happen. I think with the Rams,

(48:57):
Kyne's going to be the guy everyweek, and if he gets hurt,
then Koram's going to be the guy. Every week, and so I like
the idea of knowing that, like, yeah, maybe I wasted a ninth
round pick on a guy that's notgonna get any points, but when if
your starter goes down, he's Ithink personally Korum is a better running back
than Kyrian Williams. Kyry Williams alsomissed five games last season, like he's

(49:21):
not some workhorse. So I thinkthat Korum if he gets the opportunity,
you know, and I know it'snot optimal, right that I was talking
about, Well, well just don'ttake Kyron, take Korum, and then
when Kyrin gets hurt. Now youdidn't lose anything. You took Derrick Henry
and you've got Koram. Now you'vegot two backs. You could do that
too, and I do do thattoo. But if I do take Kyri,
because I don't want to fade KyrinWilliams, I think when he plays,

(49:43):
he's going to be a top fiveor six running back because McVeigh loves
to use them as work horses.But I also don't want to get stuck
without a running back for six weeksbecause I didn't because it's not optimal to
handcuff your running backs I like thattype of situation. Kyri Williams and Blake
completely concur This is the perfect examplefor when you want to stack your backup
with Kiren and Korum here and especiallybecause McVeigh does lean on work of course

(50:07):
running backs. So yeah, inthis case, I would stack running backs
coming back, which is just funnybecause that's the topic I was. That
was the topic I was gonna bringup. And then I looked at like,
oh wait a minute, they did. They did exactly that for how
funny. That's a smart move.Yeah, those two specific players, it
is. It's not It's not thesame with a Connor and the Benson necessarily

(50:29):
agreed, agreed. It's not thesame with the Kamara and a con Kendrey
Miller, you know, it's itis the same with the war and in
another paris however, But so itdepends on you know, it depends on
the team and the players. Itis with with gibbson Montgomery, but no
one's no one stacks those guys.You know, there's too much value it
and at too high a price.So you're going to get different players as

(50:51):
opposed to a stack of running backslike that there. Yeah, yeah,
exactly another one too. That's kindof sneaky, is I liked it.
I like Miami's backfield. Man.I liked taking a chan and then and
then taking I don't like taking mostart. I like taking I'm driving right,
yes, right, because again it'sa situation where two running backs smash in

(51:15):
that offense weekly. And if mostare like I'm pappy to bet against a
thirty three year old running back stayinghealthy, I'm perfectly happy to do that.
So I love taking a chan andright or just or just right,
like I love taking just korum orjust right, knowing that hey, one
injury. Do you know how itis? Man? These running backs fall

(51:35):
like dropped like flies, dropped likefly. I mean last season, my
best FFWC team I was Snake.I was in first place. I remember
f way through Sunday for two hundredthousand dollars and that was an a Chan
Kyrin Williams team. And that wasbecause I took those guys late, and
the guys got injured, the stars, and now you have a super team.
You're trying to build super teams inthese tournaments, and you do it

(51:59):
by drafting these in cuff running backsand then get injuries to the those starters.
Yeah, I mean I remember youwere I was sweating bullets and then
my team died. I think theythink I came in like I think say
Flowers was the only guy did anythingSunday afternoon and I ended up coming to
like eighteenth or something stupid. Yeah, you were right there and left,

(52:22):
And I mean, that's that's thethree week run, and that's I mean,
you know you need you need alot of luck in that one.
It's not the it's not the fourteenweek regular game season, where I think
it's a better per dac there withthe kind of talent you have on your
team. Uh, three weeks isa coin flip. It's a horse trace
for sure. Yeah, you gottahave a lot of luck. And listen

(52:45):
speak speaking of luck, you don'tneed luck if you're gonna win. Tonight
to tonight's draft, everybody jumping.We got only I had a couple of
by handful of spots left for tonight'scircle Las Vegas Fantasy Championship. It it
goes off a ten pm Eastern time. We're gonna be done here in a
couple of minutes. Everyone jump off, Get in that get in that draft,
playing for fifty k mid steaks draft. It's it's it's a loaded room

(53:07):
tonight. So everybody get in there, join that thing. Let's get this
thing. Let's get this thing kickedoff. Stak. We got a couple
more minutes. Let's go through kindof the and maybe not just this draft,
but like, you know, whatare your what are you looking to
do at the back end? Youknow these midstakes drafts. Are you a
guy that's looking at some of thesefree I know people like to load up
their last couple of picks with someof these free looks. Right, what

(53:29):
do we got? We got,uh, we got the Thursday night game,
the Friday night game. So we'vegot Chiefs, We've got the drum
Jhon on blankets, Ravens. Yeah, chief Chiefs, Ravenss. Friday Night
is wide. I don't, Idon't know. Is it Packers? No,
I'll I'll look it up and answeryour question. I don't. I
don't. I don't look to loadup for a free look for one week.

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You know, you've got this teamhere the whole year. You've got
seventeen weeks, including the playoff.I don't care about a free look for
a few players in week one.I know that that's contrary to popular opinion
amongst other players, but it's akind of it's it's it's a mood point.
I don't care about free looks forone week. I kind of like
to do it. I'll be honestwith you, I think I mean,
I mean that load up. Imean maybe take Like to me, it's

(54:13):
a it's a tiebreaker between between playersbecause the idea, like in these we
have to set our lineups right inthe idea to have tie to that pick
for the whole year. Though.Yeah, but you're not keeping your sixteenth
round pick the whole the whole wholeyear. I mean, let's see who
some who some of these pick picksare. Kendrick Bourne, you know what
I mean, Clyde Edwards, alayer. So what does that have to
do with the first? Oh?Okay, okay, okay. I'm saying,

(54:35):
like take a take it, takea chief for uh you know,
I'm not saying just take some randomone, you know what I mean.
But you're talking. I mean,well, like when you take Worthy over
you know, a receiver like uhno, no, I'm not going to
like Watson or in Jigba. Youwouldn't take him just for the free looks,
agreed, correct, No, no, no, it's it's to me,

(54:58):
it's just a tie like a tiebreaker. Or also like, hey,
if you're taking dart throws kind ofat the end of the at the
end of the season, I'm sorry, at the end of the draft,
you're taking dart throws, like youjust go ahead and like take up to
take a chief for I think it'sthe Eagles to them trying to find the
schedule it here quick. But yeah, I kind of I kind of like
doing that. But you like thefree look I do because when you have

(55:21):
to say, to set your lineup, I mean, some random dude could
pop in, some random player couldpop in for a touchdown. And you
know how hard it is to setthese lineups, man, especially with all
these different flights. It helps,you know, but it's one it's two
players players one week, and thenyou've got sixteen more to go, and
you're you know, make sure thatyou are guys that you want, you
know, right, you gotta bethe guys you want. I'm not.

(55:44):
I don't I don't put much faithin I don't even look at free looks.
Packers, Eagles packed Packer's Eagles,right, Packers, you had half
of it? Yeah, pers itis, it is, no, it
is. I think it's in realYeah, yeah, I'm great down by

(56:04):
the way, if you ever geta chance listen smoking, Oh, I'm
talking about going to Vegas for theto watch this game, and maybe maybe
I'll go to Rio instead of Vegasand a heartbeat there. We'll have to
talk about some of those stories.Off, Off, are you going to

(56:27):
Vegas this year? You know youasked me that last year. You know,
snake in Vegas is not is atoxic combiny. Not only is a
toxic, it actually has the propensityto be a lethal combination. I don't
make it out of there. Youknow, it's it's not good for me,
man, stay away. It's not. It's not. It's not for
everybody. That's that's for sure,especially especially when when we're trying to treat

(56:51):
it like a business trip. Howyou know what I mean, It's it's
difficult when you got all the allthe fun, the fun, funny games
were going on. But some peoplecan handle it. You know, there's
other people that are. I mean, you mentioned before you were a junkie,
right, and I a junkie.So it's good addictive personality. Vegas
can can can ruin your drafts.Yeah, that's it too. I'll be

(57:14):
honest with you, like you gotto like last year, I gotta be.
I drafted at top golf, uhfor the f FWC there in Vegas,
and it was distracted. Not gonnalie, it was definitely distracting.
You've got everyone's there, You're havinga good time, You're having drinks,
treating food. Then you got thegolf right outside, people are golf.
It's like, man, how doI now? Granted it was my probably
it was my last draft of theyear. It was the Friday night.

(57:37):
It was a Friday night. Maybemaybe I didn't want Saturday too, but
anyways, it was my last fFWC World Championship drafted of the year.
You know me, I'm five hundreddrafts in. I mean I can draft
almost blindly at that point. Butit's still distract Like you want to put
it. It's two thousand dollars forthese teams or two hundred, depending on
how many drafts you do, Like, you still want to put a good

(57:58):
effort in and you know, Vegascan be distracted, But dude, I'm
telling you that the time out there. Shout out to Scott and Ian.
They do such an incredible job.It's definitely. I've been to all the
events for all the draft sites outthere, and it's by far the best
one is through the f FWC.You have to go. The people are
friend like. You get to meeteverybody that we podcast with and all that.

(58:19):
Yeah, I would love to go. If I could trust myself,
I would love to go. Yeyeah, yeah. Body else I think
that they should go. I heardit was awesome. Yeah, to do
it some day you don't, I'llgo to Vegas, Adam. When I
get one hundred and fifty thousand dollarscheck, I'm gonna go to Vegas.
I'll meet every other damn position fromtwo to ten. I know you think
of the number one spot's been elusive, but I was gonna say I forgot

(58:43):
anyway, go ahead. Yeah,yeah, no, I'm for everyone else
who out there is watching. Uh, definitely, if you get a chance
Draft Live, come out there andhang out with everybody because it's such a
good time. Now we have aFriday night thing game to watch out there
too. All right, So let'slet's just want to ask you about this.
Let me see what you took careat the Adam. By the way,
are we going to be massochists thisyear and come back for for Bateman?

(59:08):
Yes? And Judy. I'm Iyes. I love Jerry Judy as
a player and I want to Imean I I so tell me more about
Judy. Too many moles defeat therein Cleveland. Ami. You know Amari
Cooper and Djoku Elijah Moore, whowas a guy I loved last year that

(59:29):
completely busted. He took a nastyass hit. Yeah, percussion last year.
That's true too. Jerry Judy there, they traded for him, right.
I don't think he wasn't a freeyet they traded for him, so
maybe they love him. I don'tknow if I trust de Sean Watson,
but I'm coming back for Bateman becausehe's free that they've really been talking about.
Yeah, but uh, what doyou think? I think? I'm

(59:49):
in on Bateman and maybe on thefence on Judy. I agree with you
on Bateman because he's coming in thefourteenth round. Yeah, and you know
the other players around him fourteenth roundaren't nearly as talented. But wide receiver
seventy nine, I mean, comeon, geez gee, how far the
mighty have fallen. I know,as if he ever was mighty to begin

(01:00:13):
with. He was in college andhis first you know, he was hurt
last year and his defense he washurt, just like Kyle Pitts. And
I don't know if you have youhave the eye where you can see somebody
running routes and you know you justknow they're not they're not right. No,
that was the case with Bateman lastyear. I could just tell he
was hurt. He wasn't right.Yeah, No, he's got that foot,

(01:00:36):
that toe, but I got I'lltake a shot at him at wide
receiver seventy nine for sure. Asfar as Judy's concerned, I'm with you
too. You know, I've beendrafting some other wide receivers around his ADP.
But I'm not as high or lowon him, man, because he's
he's not as cheap as Bateman.Judy goes in like round Tan. Yeah,
and but Judy's a guy that Imean, you know how this works,

(01:00:57):
right, It's June. You andI both got our eye on him,
but we've got a pin in him. And let's see how the let's
see your training camp goes, Let'ssee how the injuries go, let's see
what the team's saying his attitudes.Like, I mean, listen, this
is the guy that still wants toget paid. He's good and he wants
to get paid. Like that's abig motivator. Look at see these guys
like they want to get paid.They want to at least get that one
big payday. You're talking about Judyright now, because Judy got paid fifty

(01:01:20):
two million for three years. Ohthat's right, that's right. I'm sorry.
Well, yeah, so on theeven on the on the flip side
of that, like at least thatshows that Cleveland believes in him, right,
like they believe in that Maryland,just like ro Romandi Stevenson. Yeah,
that's a great point with with Withmandre. Yeah, people feel better after

(01:01:42):
that, you know then I likeRamandre. I'm finn of Stevenson fan for
for since the beginning. I thinkhe's he's a value pick right now.
There's another running back who's a hellof a value pick right now. Because
of all the recent noise that's comingout, I'm not listening to it or
believing it. You know what,should I mention his name Adam or not?
Whatever whatever you want to do.I don't know if we want to

(01:02:05):
give too much away, but rightnow it's like the Blue the Bluebonic Plague,
the Black Death. You know thatthat basically had twenty five percent of
Europe to come to it. No, we all know the news that's coming
out of Denver about Javonte Williams.Yeah, I mean you're in, You're

(01:02:28):
in. He's going his RB thirtyone in this in this, in this
draft. Yeah, I I can'tsay no to him. Man, I
think I think I in the rightbuild. You go receiver heavy early.
I mean you took let me see, I'm trying to see what you took.
Brian Robinson over him, But you'regonna have pieces of him. I
can see Brian better, but Ibut I have a lot of Javonte already.

(01:02:52):
Yeah. Yeah, got the tenthround, I know, Yeah,
this one RB RB thirty one.There's gonna be running backs in this range,
Pollard, Benson, Javata, youknow, you even got the you
know, the ghost of Austin Echeler. You know, there's gonna be guys
in here, Zach Moss and thatthat offense that you were talking about,
Like, there's gonna be running backsand here that hit. It's just which

(01:03:16):
ones are they gonna be? Youknow, think about you know, most
of around eighteen last year, likeall these guys, like, you know,
there's just there Edra Miller, youknow, Zach Charbonay, if there's
an injury to the walker, like, there's just so many opportunities down Chandler
Chandlers. I like two of them, you know, I don't think since

(01:03:37):
going back to the Bengals, Ithink they're gonna throw a lot more because
they have. You mentioned Zach Mossand just put the thought in my head.
You know, Chase Brown and ZachMoss are good running backs, but
I really think Borrow can throw sevenhundred times this year. I just can
see them just winging it. Andthat's why I like the Bengals. I'm

(01:03:57):
just feeling them a lot. Yeah, gotta have those vibes, man,
you gotta you gotta be able tolock in and and tack the guys and
get them get listen, get yourguys. Just like you said, Snake,
Yo, thanks so much for joiningme tonight. Get your guys.
This is this this this is notyour first time on the show. This
will certainly not be your last timeon the show. We got a multiple

(01:04:18):
Red Versus Blue drafts coming up,people where we're gonna have guests on.
Are Are you not any of those, Snake, I didn't. I didn't
sign up for the Red Versus Blueyet. I think there's still some spots
left. We can have you backout. I'll get in one of them.
Usually I do it every year.So yeah, I think I'm personally
in the next two along with streamingthem live. So we'll say, well,

(01:04:39):
if you're in there, then comeon, baby, let's go.
I find I'm one of the coolkids now. I don't know if I'm
right or I'm blue. I wantto be in as many leagues as possible.
You should. I take offense thatI don't know. It makes it
fun. I know it's like youknow, it makes it fun. I
think I'm already in three leagues withyou, and certainly in June twenty sixth

(01:05:00):
or whatever. And this is whatI love, dude. This is where
I love the f FWWC. It'ssuch a it's high stakes, it's high
volume, but it's such a tightknick comunity. Everybody like like like the
like the stuff, the stuff youwere dropping at the beginning of the show,
like you know, I've been lookingat the drafts and the owners and
the people in front of me havebeen in four or more and behind like
nobody else is doing that. Atother sites, no one's doing that.

(01:05:24):
It's like the small town barber shopnext to o'clock. You know, it's
not a large conglomerate like you know, Walmart. It's like it's it's homie,
it's you know, it's not allbusiness. It's got a real hometown
league feel to it. And yougot to love that. Yeah, absolutely,
And like even tonight, you know, I got everyone jumping this Las
Vegas Circuit Fantasy Championship. I'm talkingabout it, I'm promoting it, and

(01:05:44):
I'm seeing the names come in.It's the it's it's the usual suspects.
Everybody loves to get in these things. Man. We love to We love
to compete at the highest the highestlevel. Snake, you know, thanks
so much. Hopefully we weren't toomuch of a market mover during this past
five minutes. I know we havepeople shooting up and down the ADP.
I'm gonna go in and draft awhole different team tonight. I'm going I'm

(01:06:05):
going QB in round three. Tightending round two collar. No, say
that's when you're gonna draft with metogether? Yeah, here you go,
there you go. But all right, snick Yo, thanks so much for
joining me. To everybody else,thanks for thanks for tuning in tonight.
I'll be back next week and we'lland we'll talk more fantasy. See you
guys, Thank you, Bye,see you, buddy,