Grind Time--Full Time Fantasy Championship Live Draft

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Episode Transcript

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What is up everybody? Welcome tothe grind Time Full Time Fantasy Podcast.
I am your host, Adam crowtworthsday as usual, You're in the grind
Time and with me is Sean Child. Sean, you and I are getting
a lot of a lot of hoursin here on the podcasting lately. I
feel like we're gonna be in locksup with a lot of this stuff.

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Huh yeah, well, I meanhopefully I learned something of you or overlap.
You're drafting right, so we'll seewhat kind of style we end up
drafting. I'm done all the backgroundwork and now I got to get to
where you know, I got usget in the draft. I gotta grab
a stair and wheel and I gottamake some decisions and who do I like
and I don't want to build theseteams, and the draft flow is going

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to change a lot, so itshould be interesting, you know, as
the summer progresses. Yeah, that'sright. Time to time to time to
hop in, time to get offthe sidelines, and I listen, I
know you'll get in. You're gonnabe Mac Center and a lot of these
tournaments, but also with USNYS GlennCourant, Glenn's Snake Kuran, as you
guys know him in the Fantasy streets, big time high stakes player. He's

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finished in the top ten at themain event at the FWC everywhere from Pick
three or Spot three to spot times, where he's made quite a bit of
money over there. Maybe this yearis the year that he comes in the
top two. Glenn, how areyou doing, sir? I'm doing quite
well. Thank you. I'm delightedto be with you too, Love me,
gents. And is Friday evening andit's an honor and a privilege.

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Thanks look forward to it. Ofcourse. No, this is gonna be
a lot of fun tonight. We'redoing another full time Fantasy Championship draft.
This is a tournament three hundred andfifty dollars, is the mid stakes tournament
over at the FWC, and thegrand place is fifty k. So this
is pretty sweet. Friday night draft, nine o'clock. This is perfect time
for me. Gives me a chanceto get get the kids in bed.
Although it's summer vacation, they're notin bed. Who who am I kidding?

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But get everybody kind of in frontof a movie or something and get
get to drafting. This is gonnabe a lot of fun. I pick
eleven tonight. Holy, I'm onRoss Saint Brown at wide receiver, five
seventh overall. I already got myfirst I didn't get get b Jean Robinson.
Guys, I haven't even been Ihaven't had a single sip of drinks

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tonight. I thought that was broughtBryan Robinson for two seconds, and I'm
like, what, what where amI? Where am I? But Aquinimia
Saint Brown. I'm on Ross SaintBrown. The whole family's in here,
Sean, talk to us about realquick. I'm on Ross Saint Brown going
in the middle of the first round. While I get cued up here from
my pick. He really uh inmy mind, I guess he's probably gonna

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end up being a wide receiver one, but I kind of think of him
more as a great wide receiver twobecause the high volume of catches. He's
kind of a guy that his touchdowns. Don't think they'll be that impactful,
and you know, he'll get youknow, maybe six to eight and be
steady and have some big games andstuff like that, but he's more of
like a possession ten yards a catch, and he's gonna be very productive.

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And last year he got banged upwith the ankle. It's injury and uh,
he kind of you know, costshim a little bit of momentum at
the end of the year. ButI think he's a great player. Like
I said, I prefer him atthe back end of drafts as a second
receiver. But I know that hegets projected on the early drafts and right
now, I mean I have himstill, I rate, I have him
projected for eight. So, likeI said, I'm more you know,

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being sticky about it, Glenn,do you think about that? You know,
I'm on Saint Brown is He's He'slike a poor man's West Swelker in
only his third years. So butI'm not surprised that he's gone that early
because this is the ff WC andand the yellow stickers tend to fly off
the board a lot quicker than anywhereelse, being the three receiver and two

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flex positions. So you know,Amond being picked in the first round is
not Yeah, I've seen it.I've seen it. I've done five drafts
thus far this year here and I'veseen a bunch of draft boards. Not
really surprised. I mean, there'sa couple of quality running backs that are
being passed over while teams seemingly preferthe sexy whiteouts. I personally think that

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they're over sixed, and there wasno seriously, I mean, the wide
receivers are over sixed and there's alot of value at the running back position
that's being passed over, which fornames that will be coming up here is
shortly in the second round. I'massuming. I just don't know if there's
an is there such thing as oversexed. We'll find out, but I

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do love that comment. Um,someone who has a strong libido and wide
receivers seem to have all. That'sright. People love their receivers. This
here now, in this format,you do have to start three, so
that is important. It is fullPPR is not tight end premium. You
have to start through receivers. SoI get it more here than I do
with some of the other formats likeunderdog and stuff, where there it's half

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point PPR. I was a littledisappointed. I don't know if you've got
somebody roll, I mean, Kelsey, I feel it's a pretty good value
there. In fact, let's findout what the value was on him.
I can go to my premium drafttools ADP board right, it's gonna pull
up the ADP board. I lovethis over here, and where does he
Normally? Kelson was the one sevenand I got him at the one to
eleven, so I feel really goodabout that pick for sure, so I

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took him there. It's not timepremium, but find whatever. And then
I rolled. I really wanted Ithink, let me, I think a
J. Brown or Garrett Wilson willfall back to me. Neither of them
did. I feel like that's GarrettWilson's a lock every time at the at
the one two turn. I don'tknow a snake how many you've done of
these yet? But Wilson's a guythat I absolutely love and I can never

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get him to fall to me whereverI am. I could have taken him
a past on Kelsey. But whatare your thoughts on Garrett Wilson. I've
seen Garrett go as early as oneeight and as late as two six on
the draft boards that I've that I'velooked at and also participated in thus far
this year. I love him.I mean, what's not to like about
Garrett Wilson If he put up thekind of area he did last year as

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a rookie with those putrid quarterbacks.Um, he's got Aaron Rodgers. I
mean, what's not to like aboutGarrett Wilson As a mat fact, I
would I would take Garrett Wilson.I had him three people and that were
at a three wide receivers that werepicked in the first round. To be
honest with you, I love GarrettWilson, Sean, what do your what

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do your numbers say about Garret Wilson. I love that he's with Rogers.
I love you know he was.I was joking with Billy and texting with
Billy Muzio actually about Garrett Wilson,and he's he doesn't like him at ADP
and I was like, listen,he's gonna have five touchdowns from the one
yard line alone. Look, Iknow that's hard to factor into your projections
when you're doing that, just thinkingof Davante Adams and how you worked with

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Aaron Rodgers. But what are yournumbers say shot about about Garrett Wilson.
He came out twelve eighty with ninetouchdowns and you know a couple of carries,
um, you know they'll get himthe ball and some sweeps or something,
but he um, you know,it's like it's weird when you see
Adams go after him. Adams said, such a great career, scores,
touchdowns. I mean, you don'tknow what's going on with the quarterback for

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the Raiders, but you know yourfigure, you know, Wilson is you
know, some form of Adams,you know, but he has to you
know, as far as those inclose touchdowns, he has to prove that
he can get those you know,those uh, you know scores when he's
you know, covered up tight,you know, close to line of scrimmage
on faith and stuff like that.But uh, you know, really talented

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and like you said, bad badquarterback play last year and he gets Rogers
is a severe upgrade, and helooked a part like he could be an
elite player. He just needed betterquarterback play and the Jets had a better
play, play better offensively as ateam. Guys, he went to Ohio
state wide receiver. You essentially hewas a top first round pick. He's
got the pedigree, he's now he'sgot the Hall of Fame quarterback. I

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mean, he was sensational with ZachWilson. He's one of the worst quarterbacks
you'll ever see on the field.So um yeah, I really like your
feel like Wilson's one of these guys. Were like, if I pick eleventh,
he goes thirteenth. If I don'ttake him eleven, if I pick
third overall, he makes it likeyou were saying, glad you see him
go mid second when I picked thirties, Like, it's just gonna be one

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of those guys that like, I'mgonna have to reach to gat because every
time I'm in a draft now,I wouldn't have been to reach it eleven,
but Kelsey was there. What areyour guys thoughts? Real quick?
I'm taking Kelsey non tight end premium, but eleventh four picks past adp.
I remember this is a tournament too, so like roster builds, being unique
has a little bit to do withit too. I think you've got a
thing for Kelsey, Adam actually,because quite interestingly, I was in a

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draft with you three nights ago.I remember it. It was July talking
come on a little bit lit,and I saw you there number seven,
I think if it was and yougrabbed the tight end one without hesitation,
So you've got to be ecstatic.Hadn't an eleven here? Um, it's
not the way I like to startout teams traditionally historically with a tight end.

(08:58):
I'm just not that kind of after. I completely get it. I
get the tier separation. I getthat most of the teams that I've had
him on, all of them infact, over the years, have cashed.
Um. I think the wide receivertier drop off in the latter rounds
it's pretty steep this year. Andto find letter rounds, what what rounds

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you you're talking about? I thinkafter the seventh round there's a rather street
steep drop off. So so forthis format specifically going you know, the
first seven rounds, personally, i'dlike it, and I'd like at least
at four wideouts, easily four whiteoutsin the first seven rounds. So if
you do, if you get,if you grab Kelsey, you're compromising things

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from the traditional draft standpoint. Um, I get it. He's a winner,
he's he's he's it's a league winner. He's the best tight end.
There's a large tier separation. Butyou know what, I think that closes.
I think the gap closes this year. To be honest with you,
it could. Yeah, I mean, listen, it absolutely could. I

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get it, Um and the Plantand listen, I don't we're gonna see
o the rest of this draft playsout right, because I went upon Barkley
right right after that too, Sothat's not always the way that you want
to go without a you know,without a receiver in this would be interesting
to see what you do for therest of the because you adhere to the
BPA strategy and guessing is that rightAdam? Um? If if there's really

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crazy value like that, like fourlike four spots of ADP in the first
round, to me, is isreally good value when we're talking about like
Travis Kelcey. But I'm Adam scaresme, um, So like Barkley's might
RB three. So I'm like,you know, let me go get Barkley
and I'll just you know, we'llsee coming up here. But I'm okay

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with double tapping receiver on the nextthree or four runs. But I'm on,
I'm on the clock here. Sowhat do your thought John about what
Adam is doing? Do you thinkit's a little bit risque? Not after
picking a tight end going right torunning back although it is albeit Barkley.
Now, I'm okay with a runningback, but I'm going to make a
point with Kelsey. You know you'regoing to stop the year at thirty three.

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You know, we didn't chase himlast year. You're probably in the
same position. I mean, he'sgoing really high now. He's getting drafted
the highest he's ever done in hiscareer, right in the first round,
and he's deserving of it because therewas only four or five running backs and
wide receivers that beat him last year. He plays for Kansas City, a
great quarterback. He's definitely why thetop option in the passing game. So
I went back and looked at TonyGonzalez, you know, great tight end

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for Kansas City in the land.At the end of the career and after
the age of thirty three, heplayed five seasons. He had four hundred
nine catches for four thousand, onehundred and eighty seven yards and thirty five
touchdowns. I mean that's eighty catchesand eight hundred yards and you know,
seven touchdowns a year. And Kelsey'skind of been a had a higher ceiling
at this point of his career thansome of Tony Gonzalez. He was more

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of a like a physical and endof stuff, but a great player.
So you know, maybe I'm neglectingthat this guy is still good and I
think he's older, and I don'twant to catch the year that he fails.
But you know, he is definitelyan edge, and somebody might close
the gap on it, but it'snot for sure we're going to be Maybe
Andrews did it two years ago,maybe it's not this year. They have
a little more wide receivers. Imean, no, definitely puts later,

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and so it's you know, it'sa difficult task, but I think that
he is an edge and he's worthtaking. And you know, sometimes you
just got to take the best player. And you know, now he has
to get three good receivers or arehe wants to do it three over the
next four rounds and kind of catchup? Right, So that was my
question more or less. I don'tmind the choice of Kelsey necessarily, but
to choose a running back after you'retaking Kelsey in this format where most people

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play five wide receivers including the flex, is a little bit risque. Yeah,
they're just has to play a littlebit of catch up on wide receivers.
I'd like to see what Adam doeshere actually in the next few rounds.
Yeah, I last year, Iam I didn't do this article.
I was going to bring it upand I don't have it. And it
kind of defines what, especially inthis format, like what is what is

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a what do you need out ofthe second flex position? And it's really
like a ten point player and itmight be a little bit less. So
you've got a ten point player youwant to beat that. You know,
you need a like eleven and ahalf for the first flex position and the
top wide receiver or lead wide receiverthat you're gonna get or where you're gonna
be the player. You know,they got to be close to twenty.

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So I don't have that in thosenumbers in front of me. I will
eventually get to that, but itjust kind of like in your head,
you're looking to hit those numbers andif you can beat four or five sparts,
you're going to be really a competitiveteam. And you know, sometimes
people take the Edgit quarterbacks and hewent for the hookups. He went off
the board for two hundred, butit's you know, he's got Kelsey,
you might as well go for it. The Hopkins thinks kind of greedy because

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but I don't know where he goesas far as adt So are you making
that bet that he's going to KansasCity. Yeah, that exactly what I
was doing because I was torn betweenthat's the province. So many things I
want to say to follow up onall of a great stuff. You guys
were saying. Number one, Scottcorrect, he's in the chat, Scott,
I can't use my queue, whichis terrible because we're live on the
stream here. Secondly, it doesn'tmatter if I use my queue because resistance

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has sniped me twice now, GarrettWilson, that Deebo Samuel snipe was brutal
because I was about to go debothere all these receivers in in here,
Hopkins, Judy, DJ Moore,I mean, Drake London went really high.
Actually I would not have taken London. It why receiver nineteen. But
so I needed to go receiver,like you were saying, Glenn, like,
I can't just avoid it anymore.I gotta I gotta start pounding receiver

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here. And I'm like, youknow, let me go with the guy
that I got. Kelsey, Igot Mahomes Homes is such a it's such
a corny stack, that Kelsey Mahomesthing, because like everyone's doing it,
and you always hear about the windrates with it. But I'm like,
you know what, let me letme just do it. Get the Kelsey
Mahomes stack, and like, youknow what if I can get hoppies.
If Hopkins goes to Kansas City.Now now we're talking, where do you

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guys think I'll start with with Glennfirst, because he might be drafting a
little bit more right now. IfHopkins signs tomorrow with Kansas City, he's
normally a I can actually get youthe A the adp here. I think
he's going about late. He's goinglate thurd Hopkins is going yeah, he's
going at that three four turn.If he so, I actually got a

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one pick of value there. Ifhe lands in Kansas City, where does
he start going. He's going tobe pushed up. He might be pushed
up with full twelve picks, whichyou know, I what makes you think
he's gonna end up in Kansas City? Though, Adam, why do you
feel that's that's his landing spot?I just those are those are rumors that
I that I have heard. Hecould also, he's probably not likely.

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I mean New England, which wouldbe awful. Um in the Titans,
which which better than New England,I think, But um, you know,
so let me so. Let melet me ask a question. If
he ends up with the Patriots orthe Titans, does he does he drop
around? I think he doesn't droparound, but I think he drops half

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around. Yeah, I think hisvalue would be better with the Titans.
That's opposed to the Patriots, justbecause Tannehills made a star out of A
J. Brown before, and youknow, he's a he's a proven quarterback.
He's a VET as long as hestays healthy. Matt Jones, I
had high hopes for him in hisrookie year. I thought he was a
second coming of Troy Aikman. Butyou know, he had that sophomore slump

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last year and he took a stepback. He didn't have much help in
terms of surrounding talent and coaching.But I think mac Jones is going to
be a good quarterback actually, andpeople are sleeping on him. I think
the Patriots are going to be abetter team offensively. They can't be worse
than they were last year for God'ssake. DeAndre to me is not an
intriguing player. I'm kind of layingoff of him personally. I watched him

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on you know, I watched thegames. It looks like when he came
back last year, he hit hisstride without any hesitation whatsoever after the layoff.
But there's something about wide receivers.What is he thirty one years old?
John? He's around there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
I think he'll be thirty one thisyear. Yeah, I don't know.

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I mean i'd rather, I'd ratherpersonally, I prefer a staid that's twenty
five and up and coming in asecond or third year that are going around
his ADP. I mean you saidDrake Lendon went early. I begged to
differ on that. Really, let'stalk. Let's let's talk Drake Lendon.
I mean, if you're on London, you got to be off off of
pits and maybe even be John.There's just not enough volume there to go
to, just to go around.What makes you say that that was last

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year? I agree, but Ithink it's a new year. No,
I agree, but that same philosophies. I mean, new quarterback. But
he's he you know, how muchbetter can he be? Um? I
guess you lot, it can't beworse. And you look I mean Mario,
Yeah, I mean you could have. I'm sixty three years old.
I can still throw a thirty yardspiral somewhat accurately, somewhat thirty yards.

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Could Mariota do that last year?No pits highlights or low lights with the
ball dropping ten yards short every right, So I think that Ritter is an
upgrade. And you know it's hissecond year. He's only played four or
five games. He didn't show himmuch last year, but Mariotta was horrible.
Him and Matt Ryan or the twoI think most and even as bad

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as Russell Wilson's year was last year, how can you get any worse than
that? I think the Atlanta Falconsare a team to watch this year,
guys, I really do. They'vegot some young offensive firepower and some some
good pedigrees at tight end, widereceiver and now running back, great offensive
line. Watch out for the Falconsthis year. That's my surprise team in
the NFC. I gotta tell you, I'm really regretting Petri mahomes Lets the

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vault. The ADP is fine there, the stacks fine. But I hate
taking the first quarterback and I hatelooking at an entire round. Nobody takes
a quarterback that makes you feel prettybad. The entire round and a half.
It was gonna go by. Icould have had Josh Allen the fifth
rounde oh well, I mean Allenwasn't gonna be wasn't going to make it
back to me in the in thefifth round. But um, yeah,

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Sean, what are your thoughts onon on the Falcons? Uh? There?
And like, how the you know, I know you've you've crunched your
numbers and all all that stuff.Is there? Are you on London?
I think wide receiver. I meanthat's the highest I've I've seen them going,
like any draft I've done so faroutside of maybe you know, some
some five dollars ten dollars dressers orsomething like that. But what's your what

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do you got there for the forthe Falcon's offense? I mean, I
definitely think Ritter is an upgrade,but I still I only see them.
I got them down for throwing theball five hundred and fifty seven times,
I mean four hundred and fifty seventimes, sorry, and they're gonna run
the ball five fifty and they rana ball a ton. Lastly, they
got two great run backs. Thequarterbacks gonna run. Um, you know,

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without the doubt, London is goingto be the top receiving option,
and you know, for them,I've got them catching fifty percent of the
wide receiver targets, but I onlygot you know, fifty four percent of
the completions going to the the widereceivers. And I'm not convinced that,
you know, Pitts is going tobe a big factor out of the gate,
and that will change over the summer. I'm not you know. So

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you know, London, you know, I only have him for seventy six
for nine thirty six and six touchdowns, and you know, I don't see
a ton of touchdowns. So Ithink he's a good player and he could
beat those numbers for sure. Youjust need to throw sixty percent of their
completions to the to the wide receiversinstead of fifty four. But I think

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the running back Robinson's going to catchit a few more balls and that's gonna
pull some away. So, Imean, he's a nice player. He
fits more of the wide receiver threeand you don't expect him to go obviously
in the third round to be thewide receiver three. But that's where he
gets drafted. And the structure isfine. Now you know, you just
have to get out at running backnow, well, what strings adp so
far and drafts here because that's wherethat's where he's going. He's going right

(20:53):
at the three four turn. It'snot really a surprising pick. You have
him as a wide receiver three didyou say, well, I mean he's
uh no, I would prefer tohave him on my fantasy team as a
wide receiver three the third. Sothat team that drafted him, it's his
third. He's got three two otherwide receivers in front of him. That's
that's interesting because I think most peopleare drafted in London as a solid wide

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receiver too, even in that middlewide receiver too, you know pack somewhere
fifteen sixteen. Uh, he's goingoff the boards. What wide receiver rank
is he, Adam, Do youhave that that? Yeah? I got
the board here. He is goinguh as wide receiver twenty three usually in
the in the fourth, second widereceiver two. Yeah. I have him

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rejected as the thirtieth. You know, like I said, two hundred and
six points, and like he couldbeat that for sure when he is upsided.
So but it's more on Atlanta notthrowing the ball. The Atlanta through
the wall five hundred and fifty timeslike the average. You know teams in
the NFL. I mean there's youknow, a bunch more passes going to
the wide receiver. You know,so um but that you know, we'll
see how ridder does you know you'vegot him? You've got him seven points

(22:03):
down below, seven spots below ADP. So that's why you wouldn't get London.
But let me ask you how ahypothetical question. By the way,
can you put up the border secondagain? Animal, because it's interesting,
Sean m you're on the clock.Which has been a lot of chatterboxing about
draft slots thus far in the inthe drafts in the f WC, Sean

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and those that are in the firstfive or six slots tend to go with
two to three running backs in thefirst five six rounds, and those that
are on the back end of thedraft meaning eight to twelve are going more
wide receiver heavy, just based ona BPA dynamic when drafting and roster construction.

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So when the draft board goes backup, I think it was position
number four. I don't know who'sdrafting from there, but he's bucked the
trend here recent f WC drafts bygoing with five straight wide receivers from the
hole, and conventional wisdom has beenagainst her on the clock, stating that
there's some running backs that should havebeen picked, like he passed up Reso,

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you gotta pick right at him.Yeah, I thinkured right now,
we're good. Go ahead, I'msorry at him, I don't know.
No, no, we're good.It's like that's like a Santo's draft.
You know, load up, andyou know you just try to, you
know, get one decent running backand then you try to try to fill
in the gaps. You know thatin these type of drafts, like even
though you're fading the white wide thequarterback position, you still get good quarterbacks

(23:32):
and tight ends later. So it'sjust more it's weird for people to look
at it. It's just different.If you know, I understand the zero
running back strategy fully, I completelydo. I'm talking as specifically Sean and
Adam about it. Going toward thefront of the draft. You don't see
this kind of composition where there's fivewideouts going in the early part front end
as opposed to the ladder end,because the running backs here arguably are a

(23:56):
lot more valuable. Like look takea look Metcalf versus Breeze Hall or Tony
Pollard. I mean, would ratherhave on your team Pollard and Hall or
Metcalf, Higgins Diante And no,yeah, no, I agree that.
The other thing two is when you'reif you're drafting Cooper Cup, which I

(24:17):
am at the three spotler. Ilove Cooper Cup this year. He's a
wide receiver and a half, Soyou don't necessarily need five receivers when you're
you know, Cooper Cup is areceiver and a half, so like you,
So the value at running back isat the two three turn. And
also your stud Cooper Cup, ChaseJefferson, those guys are so so such

(24:38):
a good receiver, like you don'tneed to load up on five of them.
And that's my point. You don'tthink that that And I'm just played
Devil's advocate for a moment. TeamFrost at number three. Do you think
that arguably he's passed up some prettydamn good running back value to Chase those
whiteouts? Yeah, because he likesthe color of yellow. Yeah, but
yeah, but he eliminates Cinny.He doesn't have to make any decisions in

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his lineup at wide receiver. Ifthey all stay healthy, you know he's
gonna be he's gonna will those fiveguys and he and that's some that's part
of the game. If you haveguys that look similar and you're gonna make
mistakes. You know, Yeah,now he's gonna coin flip probably his running
backs. But you know you canmake the case like you're I mean,
I don't I don't have I probablyhave a Cooper Cup lower than most because
I didn't like their offensive line inthat direction to that team. But I

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mean, I think he's still gonnabe good. I just don't think he's
gonna be the how as good ashe was the last year and a half.
But if you just all decided toemploy the wide receivers who are running
back strategy, who would be thelast running back that you would feel comfortable
having as your number one RB?Oh, let me go look here,
doesn't fall off. I wouldn't havepassed on Taylor. I mean, he's
just too much there, you know, m chubbs Chubb doesn't catch enough passes.

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Henry's kind of he's Henry. Istill haven't rated moach and catching more
passes. But you know, inthis type of draft, he might he
might even slide to the third round. So I think if Taylor slid to
me with Cup, I would haveprobably taken that in that draft. Um
yeah, lest the last guy Ifeel comfortable like starting as a might be
like the James Connor Montgomery you know, are you know, because after after

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that like Pacheco and you know,Javanta Williams, Cook, Kmarrow, like
those guys Camarow might might be suspended. Like you know, at that point,
you're you're taking two or three orfour of those guys in a in
a row and hoping that one ofthem hits. The other thing about I
love talking about about the builds here. The other thing about that is I'm
fine with zero RB. I doit all the time here RB fine.

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But the whole premise of it isa lot of times is you want to
do it to a get an elitequarterback or and or tight end in there
to dominate those onesie positions. Butalso, but also you don't in a
in a league where you have waiverslike we have here, you're banking on
picking up these running backs off waivers. Well, what if one of us

(26:56):
doesn't let you do that? Whatif okay, we got Ricky Row here
as one running back in Miles Sanders. He should be going heavy towards there's
gonna be one to two running backsyou're gonna pick up every year. That
can change the dynamic of your team. Ricky row is gonna be gun in
for him, Hodge's heroes are goingto be gunning for him and everyone else
who feels like it. So theidea that oh, I'll just go grab

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the running back off waivers, likeyou're not just getting theres gonna give them
to you, like you're gonna haveto spend all your fab or you're gonna
have to It's not as easy aspeople think it is. And I like
doing zero RB. But before wemove on, I want to remember and
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(27:44):
a free midstakes that's three hundred fortynine dollars and ninety nine cents guys,
So definitely put that in the chatand have a chance to win, and
they'll probably announce that later on.So Adam and Sean just looking at this
board based on this Matt and allthe drafts that I've seen and participated in
thus far. What sticks out likea huge sore thumb to you based on

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the collar of the stickers here aftersix rounds, Lucky Lucky Mike structure probably
and looking like, Oh lucky Mike. I've been doing a couple of drafts
with him too, Yeah, zaggingwhen everybody else is zigging? What do
you what do you guys think aboutthat? I don't mind it as long
as he's getting value on his picks, Like I wouldn't zig just to zig
whateveryone's zagging. But if, likeif running backs are are falling like like

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crazy, you know White? Ilike White at RB nineteen. I don't
think that's a huge fall. Madison. I like Madison, uh fine in
the in the whatever round he gothim in sixth round. I love Madison
in the sixth round, but it'sonly RB twenty two, and that's more
of like an average draft spot forhim. And don't necessarily think I would

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have forced that, So it'll beinteresting. Lucky Muck's probably doing a ton
of these two and maybe he wantsto mix it up. But I think,
like, you can't even start runningbacks, right, you think you
can only start four? I thinkthat's that's the point. I think he
went one too much. Yeah,you know, I mean that honestly,
it's nonsensical. I'm just gonna callit straight out. You can only start
four running backs. Why would youtake a fifth running back as opposed to

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a second wide out? If you'regoing to employ that strategy, it just
explain it to me. I justdon't see any sense of it at all.
Yes, he's saying he's basically defendingyou know, team three in team
ten. He's like, all right, I'm not going to leave a good
running back. The wide receivers downthe table aren't that strong. I'm gonna
defend the position. When I havemy buye weeks, I hopefully have a

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great running back and I'm gonna flexboth running backs. So you know,
it's a problem with some of thoseback end running backs. You know they
end you know, if Tampa's notgoing to score a lot of touchdowns and
stuff like that, they're gonna getyou, you know, eleven or twelve
points a week. And but howmany explosive games where you might have a
wide receiver. If he let's justsay Mike Evans with a slid, you
know, maybe he has some biggames and stuff like that, or you
know Lockett comes back, or evenWilliams. I mean he's a you know,

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big receiver. He's score touchdowns ifyou ever get stay healthy. But
you know, he's, like Isaid, he's defending the position, and
he sees he only has to geta couple more wide receivers and you know,
maybe get four and then see howthe rest goes. So I don't
mean it's it's overkilled. But youknow, any anything can work if the
players playoff to expect expectations and youstay healthy as well. But he still

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has to get out with the restof his roster. Yeah, I hear
what you're saying. He's defending theposition. Indeed, I just think it's
cutting off your nose despite your face. Actually, because Madison's going to be
on the bench or White and youtalk about taking the decision making out of
it, I mean that goes againsteverything you just said. That that makes

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it even harder. So I don'tknow why you would pick a running back
in the sixth round. I justdon't think it's a good call right there
at all. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I mean, Madison,
it certainly could be value there butyeah, I mean, it's just
it's just kind of take a shouton Pickings, Tony. Could you know,
well even take a shot like youhave to, you have to take
a resipt. It's you know,it's not even like oh well yeah,
you're right, you just gotta Andthat's the whole thing. Like not a

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lot of people talk about this,but no one, no, we don't
know anything, right, So likewe're you were drafting these players and we
don't know, and you don't know, and they don't know. Like you,
if he doesn't like Pickings, wellyou need you know what I do
know? You need to start three, three receivers, right, So you
got to take a shot on someof these receivers and just say, hey,

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you know, whether I like himor not, I gotta start one.
I gotta start three. So Igotta take him. And so unless
um lucky Mike likes a lot ofthese late round guys. But again,
it's gonna be a situation where,uh, where he's gonna he's gonna be
in trouble running next you hurt allthe other time. So I think what
Sean said is he's gonna flex him. He's gonna hope to have four really
good running backs every every single one. That's fine, you just pick one

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too many. Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of obvious. Well
he went, he went quarterback innext round, so he took the advantage
there rather and gambling. Okay,we're in a range where a lot of
receivers are going to be you know, eleven to nine point players. Quarterbacks
falls off right after the first seven. So I get I get that pick.

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I don't get the Madison pick aheadof any of those receivers, even
if he didn't like them. BPA'sfine, but I think that's picking.
That's just. But he could alwayshave vision and like players, you know,
later on and he if he's identifyingsome breakout players, then he hits
on him. I mean a coupleof years ago when when Jefferson came to
the league, he was like athirteenth round and te Higgins is getting drafted.

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I mean, there was a lotof good receivers. I think Pittman
might have been in that draft.There was a lot of value and sometimes
you see it and a lot oftimes these drafts earlier compared now that we're
drafting in in say close to theSeptember and when opening day the draft board
tightens up and the advantage of otherpositions aren't there. So you know,

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you know, if he sees playershe likes later on and he sees how
it is going, I mean sometimesit can work out. I'm not um
like I said, it'll be interestingto see how that team does. Yeah,
it just makes it more difficult forhim because he can't start five running
backs. That's all He's gonna winthe overall championship. And obviously that's how
it happened. You know that whatlooks hard and future down draft day looks

(33:17):
a lot better on Christmas Day andvice versa. That's how it works.
I hear you. Now it looksso it looks fine like it, but
once you see who he drafts itthe next day, three receivers, and
then that will probably give you likewhich, So okay. Last thing,
I don't want to crap. I'mlucky, Michael. I don't even know
lucky about you. Guys might bebest friendsman. Last thing, though,

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it's interesting to take the d tourfor DJ Moore, right, like why
DJ Moore and not? You know, yeah, yeah, I know,
I know. I wasn't think GabeDavis. But there's resistance again killing me.
Um, tell me, why notresistance? He's a sniper when when

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you're in the eleventh position in goinginto twelve, you've got to control that
corner. And if the guy's gettingthe play around to the corner on you,
you're not doing your job. Holdon. In my in my defense,
I liked Bateman over to Gay Davis. I was fine with. I
was hoping, you know, Iwas hoping. Um, So tell me,
okay, so quick, quick,little one v one here, Gabe

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Davis or Quentin Johnston. I sayI would probably Yeah, the Johnson guy.
I mean, he's obviously interesting,but he's still a third receiver.
Listen, don't and plus the runningback is gonna catch a ton there so
john Johnston guy. Me, okay, don't you've never heard that Johnston guy.

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You haven't even heard of this guyor something? Come on, he's
a he's a he's a start shan. You know it. I know it.
I did want Gabe Davis, though, I will say that, but
I ended up going bait. Sookay, so here here's my run right.
It was Kelsey Barkley Mahomes. Whatam I gonna do with receiver Hopkins,
Marquis Brown, Treylon Burke's, Rashadbay In, Quentin Johnston. I'm

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okay with that little run there,with the way that I started, you
guys hate it got very well foryou, right? Really? Did I
think that that worked? All?Right? Bateman? Snake talking me about
Bateman? Are you where are youwith this? With this Raven's passing game?
Do you think a healthy Bateman isthe clear one receiver there? It's

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funny you mentioned Rashad abatement. Um. You know, after the year's over,
I don't look at drafts. Ipay attention to football news, but
I don't look at the draft boardthroughout the Super Bowl month of February,
a March or April or May orJune. Song when I come back.
I come back in June and I'mlooking at the at the board, and
I know that the Ravens drafted JayFlowers and I know they added Obj.

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But I've drafted Bateman and three outof my five teams thus far in this
format the FTFC here, you know, to win fifty km. I'm a
big Rashad Bateman, and I don'twant to really talk about specific players because
I have to compete against these guysthat I'm drafting against. But I'm walking
a fine tight rope line. Ilove Rashad Bateman at his adp oh,

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I love. I love hearing thatSean Bateman eighty. I think we talked
about it at AFC North, butI forget where where were you at Bateman?
I just don't know. It waslike sixty four, eight hundred and
six touchdowns. I think he's agood player and needs to stay healthy.
Me, the gambler mentality of me, probably would have taken Michael Thomas over
both of those guys even. Imean when he was on the field last

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year, he looked like he coulddo it. Do it. They're gonna
throw the ball probably six hundred times. And now you're looking at the offense,
it's the tight ends catch I gotone hundred and thirty passes. They
could throw Ton to Andrews. Thebackup tight ends are pretty talented, um
you know, Beckham and Flowers ordecent receivers. But I don't see,
you know, I don't see Batemanscoring ten touchdowns and I don't see him

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catching you know, ninety balls likelike Brown did a couple of years ago.
I mean, he has to see. He still has to prove to
state that he can stay healthy whereI know Thomas has missed a couple of
years when he was on but hewas on the field last year. He
was productive for the three games,and you know, if he comes into
healthy. But like I said,boys Bateman, when he was on the
field for four games, he wasquite productive also. So you'd rather take

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a chance on a on a receiverlike Thomas, who's what seven years Bateman
senior, and they both have thusfar in their careers considerable considerable injury history.
No way, I'll take Bateman allnight and day over Thomas. I'll
take the guy that has done itbefore rather than the guy has to get
there. I mean, what,we don't know where Bateman's gonna go.

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You know where Thomas has ben Hedoesn't even have to be He could be
half of himself. Of one hundredand forty nine catches, gets seventy five
balls, and he's still beating Bateman, Quentin and Gay Davison catches. Most
likely, I don't think Michael Thomasloves football anymore. I think he's I
think he's done his shot, hisfoot, his foot, his foot shot.
But I do want to show you, guys, is this well?

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Why Sean, let me just askyou one more shown that before we move
on at him. I'm sorry,why why would you not pick a guy
who hasn't shown what he can doyet? Why would you want to pick
him after he's shown what he cando? It's too late? Why couldn't
Well, No, Bateman's Bateman's hada couple of chances, but he's been
banged up and he hasn't stayed healthy. So I think he's talented, but
he's not in the offense that's goingto throw the ball six hundred times.

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They're you know, running team,the quarterbacks and score you know a lot
of Russian touchdowns. The tight endscommand so many, you know, high
percent of the balls. You know, like you're not buying into the offensive
coordinator being new and then adding tworeceivers like Flowers and obj And I mean
I got Lamar throwing the ball fivehundred and twenty five times, so I
have him throwing him are and he'sclose to four thousand yards because we talked

(38:43):
about you know, uh, we'vetalked about that earlier. What did I
have on um? Yeah? Soum, But you know it's just interesting.
Actually I hit thirty the team tothrowing thirty nine hundred. But you
know, he definitely can throw better. And you know, just you know,
does throw the thirty five touchdowns hedid like two or three years ago.
I mean, is that what you'rebetting on? No, I'm betting

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on Bateman's talent. I mean he'sa number one pick and so is a
Flowers. But but from a talentprofile, I think Rashot's a lot better
than zay Um. Yeah, thehealth concern is the only reason why he's
going in the eighth or ninth round. Otherwise he'd be going in the fifth
round even with the addition of objand Za Flowers. In my humble opinion,
I love Baatemon. I think Batemanis the most undervalued player at any
position in the entire draft. Asfar snake, You're welcome to the show

(39:30):
anytime, okay, because you pickedhim out him it is not. But
he's a value at the fourth Imean he's got him as a fourth receiver
in the forty third wide retievers drafted. He's gonna beat you know those projections.
I mean I have him where doI have him ranked? Bateman?
While you're looking there's two seats leftin the twenty five dollars starter starts at

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ninety five Eastern time. I sawthat the CHET, I thought i'd actually
Bateman. Bateman's ranked forty second,and UH gave Davis twenty third. So
they're rating your wheelhouse to them,you know, based on the early projections.
But I ended up getting Damon andQuinton Johnson. I wanted Davis Johnson
fell I'm out of the clock hereand a pick here. Um. But

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yeah, so that that's what Iended up doing there. Got it in
the wall of these quarterbacks of thequarterbacks, snake, where do you stand
on drafting quarterbacks? They they golater here than most of the other sites.
Um, are you for a goodreason? There's only four points as
opposed to six points for a passingtouchdown. Um, I think you took
Pat too early. I know youlike the stack and you did the same
thing the other night on July fourth, actually America's birthday. I was pretty

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lit up. I was. Icouldn't even see sit but I did see
those. I did see Patton Kelsey. And then you proceeded to pick nine
wide receivers in a row, whichwas presented in the ffwcum But but I
think Patrick Mahomes. Look you're onthe clock. I wouldn't pay up a
third round pick for a quarterback,and uh, that's just how I draft.

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Now you can see, you cansay it. Joe Barrow is going
to be a better quarterback than Mohomes. If ye, Bie Barrow is gonna
be a better quarterback than Patrick,I hope, so I don't. I'm
a Bills fan. Not only that, justin, Justin Herbert's going to be
a better quarterback than Patrick. Theproblem with Herbert is his two top receivers

(41:20):
have some injury risk and are gettingolder. So if they go down,
my Quentin's on board. Adams seen, yeah, this is insurance policy.
And then the Eckler coming up andever it's really a hybrid side end slash
wide receiver. Right, Oh,they're gonna throw a ball a ton.
He just u and he should runmore this year without a dog because he

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you know, after that injury,he just didn't run it. So he
has to get back where he scoresfour or five touchdowns on the ground,
get three hundred and some yards andthen you know, get back over thirty
touchdowns. I mean, he's he'sa value when he's in there's nobody,
only a couple of quarterbacks in theleague, and then throw it as much
as he does. You know.Can you show the board again? Let's
see there you got you got myhomes and third at him and then the
next running back I believe went inthe early fifth. Is that a real

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quick before I show that? ButI'm gonna show this board. This is
the ADP board that goes along withthe with UM if you if you get
the subscription over here, it showsyou you can watch this while you're watching
your draft, and it'll show youwhere the guys are being picked in.
They're in the gray, you're thelight grays where I drafted my guys,
and you can see like, Okay, Herbert's great value here, Flowers is
great value here, like where theygo. This is an ADP board,

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and then you can just go backto your own board and pick it.
So I really like this, doyou guys? I know you haven't done
a touch yet, but Snake,I know you've been doing some drafts.
What do you think of that?Yeah? No, it's a great,
great tool, very valuable at works. I use it all the time.
I love it. I love it, Nico Collins, Romano Dubes go,
I'm on the clock here. Theold days, you didn't have the caddy
of the draft board and the ADPto help. You had the piece of

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paper and to do your own research, you know, and you didn't know
what anybody was gonna pick. Youknow, when you walked into the first
drafts in the High State market,you were you know, I'm taking I'm
taking Chris Johnson, or in thethe middle of the first round, I'm
taking Randy Moss in the second andhe caught that two thousand and seven year.
You could have a great season,but the years of the highlight,

(43:14):
the highlighter years. You know,I used to think highlighter that was always
good luck. But talk about thequarterbacks, because you know last last year
started a trend obviously with the tiersseparation in the quarterbacks, and now folks
are paying up base and even inthe FWC. I mean for quarterbacks to
go off the board in the fifthround. You took Patton the third,
but three quarterbacks, Alan, Hurtsand Jackson go off in the fifth then

(43:37):
then Borrow at the beginning of thesixth. But after the Herbit and Lawrence
and Fields, do you feel thatthere's a drop off and that folks should
wait for the next quarterback for atleast two three rounds, or do you
think that someone should take a shoton at Dak Prescott or or Russell not
a Russell, Dak Prescott or DeshaunWatson per se. I don't I think

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people should should you should wait?I think they should either get one of
these top like Mahomes, Alan Hurts, Jackson, Burrow Fields, Herbert those
only I mean Lawrence. We talkedabout him a little bit the other night.
He's kind of like the gap betweenlike the next tier. I think
Kennedy's in a tier of his ofof of his own. Um but I'm

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I'm I would generally like to wait. Here's the thing about taking a quarterback
with Mahomes in the third round?Um A, I did. I did
him specifically because of the stack.But b again, we don't know.
It's hard. This three or fourturns sucks this year. I'm not gonna
lie like, there's just so manyquestion marks, so many you know,
Keenan, Allen, London Hopkins,you know there's so many question marks.

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You know what I know? Iknow that Alan and Hurts and Mahomes are
not gonna bust unless they are hurt. So like the advantage of taking a
quarterback there is that Okay, hemay and may not be the best value.
It may not be the best youknow, ross construction decision. But
you know what, I know,I know they're great. I know they're
superstar players that aren't going to bustunless there's an injury. Now, I

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would like to wait until the fifthround to get my quarterback, and I
generally would, but that's kind ofmy argument of taking Mahomes in the third
or or a quarterback in general atthe three four turn. Um, that's
kind of how I how I woulddo it. What about you, Sean,
It's interesting, you know, waitingon the quarterback position because they're the

(45:29):
easiest position to get the most pointsoff the wave where even late but seven
of the first receivers taken over thefirst two rounds, their quarterbacks are still
on the board. So those teamsthat are drafting those wide receivers earlier are
still relying on these quarterbacks being doingwell. Um Seattle quarterback Aaron Rodgers to
a who else we got of here? We've got um Wattle within Olave with

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um, you know the Saints quarterback. So you know there's a lot of
quarters, you know, receivers upthere that they need their quarterbacks to play
well, and they're still on theboard, and maybe that's only half of
the equation. You need maybe twomore receivers to do well on those teams.
But you know Seattle's quarterback, youknow, with Metcalfe and the rookie
receiver and Lockett, that's a prettygood combination and they throw to the tight

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ends. So it's just you know, it's a little more of a game
management. If you're going to cheatthe quarterback, you maybe you have two
or three and play matchups and youknow, you may not beat the Batts
teams, but you may end upwith a little more depth at some other
position. And it's a different it'sa different world. And it's especially in
auctions because you can get those otherquarterbacks for you know, a dollar or

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two dollars where people are paying twentyand it's kind of a great equalizer.
Well. The cool thing too abouttaking a quarterback and a tight end early
is now when I'm especially when i'mlive streaming, when I go over to
my draft room, I only haveto look at running backs and receivers like
the rest of the draft, LikeI don't have to worry about the tight
ends, and am I gonna getsniped a quarterbacks? I love that.
But guys, I've been so busystreaming and talking and this has been a

(46:59):
great conversation. Like I have tolook at the camera. You had mentioned
JT earlier. I don't know whyglasses were foggy. Metcalf and Higgins went
ahead of like Jonathan Taylor, likeBruce Hall, Like to me, I
get the receivers and the three receivers, but like JT was going at the
one oh one last year, oneoh two last year and he got hurt

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new offense Bruce Hall, you know, obviously injury, But like, are
we really taking like I mean,Jonathan Taylor to me is RB seven either,
He's like RB five RB four rangeprecisely when I when I stated earlier,
yeah, I must have missed it. I mean you your glasses are
off. You can see what Iwas talking about. I think they chased
the wideouts a little bit too muchyear, you know, looking for you

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know again they're over six. Ithink they passed up some good value,
not only Jonathan Taylor. But butChub and argumently well, I didn't pass
the Pollard. But but picking beforeJT and Chubb, Hegan and Metcalf are
too interesting. I mean, widereceiver fifteen over RB seven even that's a

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little ah. But but when youget like Taylor, isn't RB seven to
me? Like Taylor's like RB four, I don't like it. I love
I love to start JT falling towhat's his name? I can't even see
all day, right all day?And then Stevenson third. I think that's
a hell of a start. Iwould have constructed it different. In the

(48:28):
fourth round, I've got my twosolid backs. I don't know who's there
in the fourth coming back one,two, three, Um, I get
Kenneth Walker. Um. I meanhe's looking at as many points as he
can. Again, I just don'twant to come out with one receiver after
five rounds. Love his players,nothing nothing wrong with it. I just
want to come out. I don'twant to be with one wide receiver after

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five or six rounds in this specificformat. Do you concur or not?
I mean, god, yeah,Well on one of those points, you
know you got Christianer mccam affrey andthe Eckler team. I mean though they
obviously wanted to come out one andone of the first two rounds and take
their chances. Who was going tofall in the next round, you know,
so if you take the double upat the back, then you're taking

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the drop off. So I meanit was probably a predetermined you know.
You know, I'm staying with especiallywith the format. I mean, I
don't want to get chased down thereceivers later on and get the running backs.
So the one that broke, youknow, when Taylor went to the
third team that went five wide outs, he's the one that probably should have
taken Taylor, you know, becauseit was the value for the structure.
And then then he you know,wins to team too. But yeah,

(49:30):
you probably you know a lot oftimes if you won't if you're balanced,
you know, after five rounds youhave more options to go in different directions.
So you got two running backs,two receivers, and you know,
the fifth round you take the bestavailable, you know, whatever fits your
team structure. But it's you know, dictated what happened before earlier in the
draft for your team. I thinkI'm Calvin Ridley, he's been he's been

(49:53):
going real a lot too early formy taste personally. Um, you know,
he's going ahead of some pretty damngood receivers there in the middle of
round three. Yeah, real quick, look at this another premium toolier,
this stack finder, so right inthe middle of the draft, that can
go. Look if I'm thinking aboutbuilding a stack see how many teams have
only two teams so far in thisentire Full Time Fantasy Midstakes competition have Jamar

(50:15):
Chase and Jonathan Taylor. That's apretty sweet little deal there, and I
think that's tremendous value to get changeat two eleven. Yeah for sure.
I mean that team's gonna come insecond to Adams team, right of course,
I got thirteen seconds. Hold on, hold on here, Oh boy,

(50:35):
oh boy, what would you do? What would you do? Sean?
In this position? He's taking anotherMichael Gallup? That's what is what
you do in this in this position? Sean, what are your number?
We haven't gotten to the NFC Eastyet, gall Up. He's saying he's
healthy this year. They're I thinkthey're really gonna open it up. There's
a lot of you know, there'sa lot of target competition there, but
you lose Shaltz. So that's somemore targets to go round to the receivers.

(50:59):
What are your I mean again,it's a late round. A late
round guy. Here, let mesee where I hold on. What's that
draft board? He went as widereceiver sixty two? I mean I should
be okay with that, right,Yeah, I don't. I don't have
him rated, you know, closewhere it is because the Cooks is in
the way there the tight end.The tight end position does have a drop

(51:20):
off. You know, with Schultzout of there, they'll probably split it
up, so there could be afew more targets. But um, I
wasn't as aggressive um at the widereceiver position. You know, with Lamb
commanding one hundred and ten catches,fourteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns. Cook
was sixty six seven seventy and five, and he's got a kind of a
proven resume, so he could bea little bit higher. So Gallop,
you know, he was kind ofa disappointment, but he was coming off

(51:43):
an injury. You know, hedefinitely could bounce back and be more like
a sixty eight hundred guy. Butyou know, I have him projected kind
of low out of the gate.Um, I don't see in decks five
hundred and ninety three pass attempt souy, they've thrown it high more than
that in the past. So I'mjust kind of I have him underprojected.
But you know, we'll see howthe news shakes out. Stake. Where

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are you on the on the Cowboysoffense? Are you in the middle of
You're worried about the play calling ofthat antiquated coach over there called you know
what's to run the ball all thetime? Where where are you on them?
I think there's a few things stillwaiting to shake out. I don't
know if Pollitt can you know,being in between the tackle two hundred and

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fifty plus carry guy yet and you'vegot a few free agents like Leonard and
Kareem and even as Zeke you mightgo back. So I don't think that
the end game has been written inDallas yet. Um, there's a little
bit too many unanswered questions. However, Gallup doesn't really float my boat as

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a third receiver in Dallas. Tobe honest with you, M I know
Schultz has gone so how many targetsis that to soak up? I think
Sean would know. Sean's the number. The numbers guy I gotta be around
on dred right or more. Um, it was the five yard out.
I mean it's just just five yardout after five yard out, after five

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yard out, I have to switchto the But I went Gallop and then
I went Bigsby. Um, andso like Tank, So again I have
a hero RB build here with SequonBarkley is my hero RB. And then
I'm just taking guys that are aninjury away from smash ceiling. Charbonnat's an

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injury away from being a top twelverunning back, top fifteen just because of
kind of like how um, howKenneth Walker was last year. He was
an injury away from being a toptwelve back, and that's gonna end up
happening Bigsby maybe not the same upside, but I really like Bigsby coming out
of college. They've already talked abouthaving given him some standalone value there in

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Jacksonville. So when with this typeof build, I'm not looking for like
the single Tarries or the you know, the Elliotts and stuff like that.
I'm looking for more of like theJalen Warings, even elt Gear. You
know, he's an injury away fromhe was pretty good last year too.
So uh, that's those are thetype of running decks I'm looking to build
here when I go with a heroRB build, Yeah, I like,

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can you I like the way teamnumber yep, go ahead, Um,
I like I like team number nine. I think he is, especially getting
Darren Walker, top tier tight endthere in the what is that the eight
ninth round? Is that? Yeah? Tight end seven? Darren Waller in
the ninth round yep, nine nine, that's a great, that's a great.

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Those some tight end value in thisdraft right here in late ninth got
it, especially Waller and also Ingram. Yeah, yeah, super super happy
I took uh, I took youknow, so much quarterback and tight end
value in the draft that I gofirst round tight end, third round quarterback.
Listen, you live, You're live, and you learn, guys that
everything works out. But Waller tome is the end of that. It's

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it's it's cool. What like theend of the tier for me is Derek
Dearred Waller and the next pick isthe next tier of tight adds. You
gotta feel good about that one.Great? Yeah yeah, getting Waller and
Herbert you know too, top tierpositional players there in round seven and nine
and squeezing him in with Gibson.It's a nice little move. Um Dotson's

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his fifth receiver. I'm not crazyabout Miles personally, but if Miles does
something, that team that could bea team to be reckoned with seany what
he got over there. For thenumbers you were looking, Oh oh he
was. Dallas was last year eightynine catches for eight hundred and sixty five
yards, one hundred and thirty targetsfor steven touchdowns. So I have him

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for seventy five catches. You figureI'm probably taking away thirty five targets or
thirty, you know, twenty fiveand shifting into the wide receiver position.
I think twenty five percent of theircompletions went to the tight end. Um
in fifty seven percent to the widereceiver last year. So I bumped it
to sixty one for wide receivers.With Cook added Um and Gallop, and

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you know that definitely could push high. They could be sixty Dallas. Yeah,
So yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I mean, they got a
rookie tight end there, I mean, nothing to speak of. I feel
like that's probably what's gonna happen.They added receivers gallops healthy high fly in
there again, I'm just trying toget a vibe on gap kind of receiver

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sixty two. I mean he's kindof free at that point. Yeah,
when you look at the folk centerwas select the wide out center selected after
Gallop, I'll retract my statement andI'll say that he does float my boat
a little bit, because yeah,how did you get a float? But
both floated a little bit. Ithink that's really kind of an oxymoron.
But based on the white outset oneafter Madam, I would have to say
you made the proper pick um.That was kind of a panic pick too,

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because I again, I have noque and I'm over here showing you
guys the great features here in FullTime Fantasy, and like, oh,
I like I've eight seconds. Ilove Michael Gallop click um. But but
yeah, so just starting going throughsome of these builds too, you know,
some really interesting stuff and um,you know, I was looking.
I love micro takes on players andlike you know, talking about like what

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Sean and I do with Jody.We're going through all the projections of the
specific players. But the builds andstuff, the way you're talking about it,
Snake is just super cool too,You're like, yeah, you can
have the projections, but you stillgotta build your roster and all that.
So we started five receivers here forTeam Frost out of the three hole,
follows it up with four five runningdecks in a tight end with the next

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six picks. Is that if you'regonna go with with a zero RB approach,
is that how you would do that? Snake Absolutely, categorically and on
equivocally that that's how I would doit. Um, I might have snuck.
I would want to get one ofthe top tier quarterbacks, to be
honest with you, Sure well,Um, for me, I would have

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I personally would have had felt alot more comfortable having either Fields, Lawrence
or Herbert on my team and grapa check on come back and grab Yellin
and Brian Robinson. I feel alot better about my team if I had
that build. I completely agree,and I got deck. It's still fine
QB eleven. You know, wejust talked about all the weapons that they're

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they're gonna have there, But yeah, I completely agree. That's the thing.
Like there are some like you know, not not rules, but people
sometimes get lost in like strategies andlike, oh it's zero RB, you
just don't take urb's. Well it'snot really the case, you don't take
urb's, but you also get eliteplayers at the other positions and that and

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that's what you want to that's whatyou want to do there. Quick question
too, while I'm on the clock. Here are called a couple of picks,
um Sean, I'll start So I'llstart with you, what do you
consider zero is zero RB? Isit no running backs till the sixth round?
Seventh round? Can you go?Can you take a running back in
the fourth and you know, andthat be zero RB? What do you
kind of consider zero r RB?I guess it would be depending on the

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format. In this case where you'retaking you know, the five receivers and
you're filling the flex, that wouldprobably classify as the zero RB. And
maybe in a regular one where it'sthree wide receivers and one flex you know,
maybe you're taking four wide receivers outof the gate. But some you
know, I've seen plenty of timesin other formats will people will take five
receivers with a you know, justonly one flex position and they're looking for

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the extra depth and they'll cheat therunning back. But I mean that particular
team. I mean, he gota lot better running back depth than expected
when when we saw in the fifthround he hit his fifth receiver, So
I think he did pretty well.But you know, the quarterback position,
he's got a decent quarterback and hecan kind of manage that, you know,
grab a couple of extras and havedepth. And he's looking like he's

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a pretty good team in this format. Yeah, but I think it could
have been better if he had fieldsand scraped the checkout. Yeah, but
he doesn't have to make a decision. I mean, he's get he gambled
on Cook, so you don't evenknow where to go. And you're really
big on not having to make adecision and screw up or starting lineup and
leaving points on the fence. Butyou're saying that Fields is going to be

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you know, how much better?How much? How much it better?
Is is? Let's just send projectionsin your mind. How many more points
is uh Fields worth than than prescottum per game? Yeah? Yeah?
Is it worth two? Three?Four? Is it? I? Actually
I think he'd be worth easily fourfour and a half five Yeah, I

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mean I haven't projected I actually havePrescott and them really close. And I
but I have Fields, you know, missing a couple of games. So
if he was projected, you know, for one more game, he would
probably be you know, like ninth. But it's close enough where no,
so what what's the what's the pointper game difference between Prescott and Fields for
you? That's that's how my brainworks. Point per game about a third

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of a point. But I like, but I haven't Fields missing one missing
one extra game games. Yeah,I don't know how you project people missing
games or now. I mean,well if they missed last year and the
year before a couple of games,I mean I have to pray something in.
I mean, you know, ifit's a Tom Brady hasn't missed the
game in five years and years orwhatever. You know, we're real quick,
Sean, Sean, who do youthink to back up in Minnesota?

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Is Tie Chandler or Dwayne McBride.I would take Chandler Chandler it is.
I love it. And Justin Fieldscan throw in the football. Also,
you know, people forget he wasReceivers are better. Yeah, hey,
Field Fields won me a lot ofmoney in a daily game last year,
so probably didn't hear that story.But I had a good day with him

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at November six last year, Novembersix, he's got he got a tattoo,
and I've done his shoulder with thaton there. Listen, Snakes had,
Snakes had a bunch of a bunchof good days more than me,
finishing third, fourth, six,seventeenth in the f WC. I love
that would be the end of theold High Stakes Fantasy Football League in conjunction

(01:01:58):
with the FWC. Got you.Over my career, I finished anywhere from
numbers three to ten, never inthe top two. Yeah, not just
in the FFWC. Are you goingto Vegas this year? Snake? No
snake in Vegas aren't really they're atoxic max. He's he's wanted. What's
across the border? You know thelights go on? He still hung over
from last year. I'm still hungoverfrom July fourth. I don't know about

(01:02:22):
last year, but you know,I got lit and I don't really do
mind altering substances. It was thefirst time in a while, so um,
yeah, it was all good.I mean, I saw you,
you did a run. It's interestingbecause you're showing a pattern here, because
you know you are you know thatyou're a stalker. You you stalking at
him? Is that he telling he'sa smart drink snakes snake study harmless?

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I'm a garter snake. For God'ssake, he's a he's a hard.
I had a guy I was doinga three K in Vegas. I've never
met the guy before I sit Wesit down at the table. He's in
the one. I'm in the twelvewhere the eleven stuff like that, and
he looks at me like papers inhis hand, and he goes, I
know every player like you've taken allyear. Like, jeez, let's guys

(01:03:06):
do what his research. You gottaknow you're you're you're showing your hand at
him. I saw you in Julyfourth. You're you're drafting the same way
exactly. You had nine whiteouts ina row. I think that's unprecedented.
After you picked Kelsey and Mahomes.I don't know you've got in the second
round. I forgot to be honest, but it's a bat too. I've
probably done twelve drafts since July fourth. Wasn't the July seventh, smack addict.

(01:03:30):
He drafts the same when you whenyou're watching, that's on purpose.
He knows you're followings, right,it's right. Listen to Snakes soccer man.
Snake might do mind all ding substances. But instead of that, I
just draft tight end and quarterback early. That's what I do that to make
and go crazy. Yeah, youwant the edge of those two positions,
which is interesting and it's ballsy.I'll give you credit. It's ballsy.

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It takes colonas to do that,so and you gotta have colonas to win.
I don't know what it is.It's something different. You're gonna do
it every draft at him? Ohno, no, no, no,
no, no, no no.But that might be more difficult to execute
in the main event or even inbeginning to September than it would be.
Right now. A lot of peopleare just you know, they may they

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haven't drafted, you know, theydon't know the player flows and their opinions.
They're you know, they're just kindof learning. And this is kind
of a let's let's get in alow stakes event and see how it goes.
And I mean, what are yourthoughts on the Eagles backfield guys?
Because I see here that, um, where did where did Walker went?
In? Where did Walker go?Today? Tonight? In this draft?

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Here fourth at four two, foureleven. Where's Walker Kenneth as? They
say? Sorry, we looking atWalker as four eleven, at four eleven,
Penny went at nine seven. I'mhaving a problem looking at the Pennies
in Philly now, so it's problem. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't
mean Pat, I mean Swift.Where did Swift go? My bad?

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Where did Swift go? Here?Swift? Swift? Swift? He went
in the middle to round six?Yeah, well, usually there's like a
three round difference between Swift and Pennyfrom that Philly backfield. What are your
thoughts on that? I'm curious toknow my thoughts are. I don't want
to fade either of them. Ilove taking Penny at ADP because again,
it's a situation where you know you'regonna RB thirty six. You know,

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I think, I truly think there'speople I think I'm crazy. I think
that Penny is a straight up betterrunning back than DeAndre Swift is no doubt,
okay, but he's never healthy andand so I think that's a problem
there, Like if Penny can getthe backfield to himself for a game,
like if swift'shirt or whatever. Ilove Penny, but I think Swift's a

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safer back because I think Penny's gonnabe hurt a lot, but Penny's hurt,
Swift has a chance to be awesome. Not because Swift is good,
but because if an ELITEO line inan elite offense. So with what you're
saying is, do I think there'sfour rounds of difference? There probably shouldn't
be, but I like it becauseyou can get Petty. I'm okay with
taking Petty or Swift. Um,it depends on what what my build is.

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What do you think, Snake,Well, let's assume they're both healthy,
Sean, I don't really want totell you what I think at this
moment, but let's assume there.Let's assume they're both healthy, Okay,
Sean? Throughout the entire years,who's gonna be the man there? Who's
gonna have better numbers come Christmas time? And the problem with the running back
position for Philly is, you knowlast year, you know they what do

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they have? Sixty one targets,no touchdowns? They gained five point four
six yards of catch? Doesn't throwthe ball through his backs? Yeah,
so he you know, Swift ishis value is in catching the ball and
he and he can make big play. So I like I like him as
a player, and he's missed likethree or four games a year, but

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he really needs those running you know, probably twenty five to thirty more chances.
I haven't projected for forty catches,but for him to be like value
as a you know, RB twois a PPR guy, he needs a
few more chances. I think thatthey'll give Penny the second tier carries on
the team, but you know,if Penny gets hurt, then you know,

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Swift gets a better chance. Andyou know, and maybe game Well
is the guy that you know picksup. Okay, So I'm going to
take that with a little bit ofa grain of salt, only because you
aforementioned that Zach Prescott was going tobe a half a point below justin fields
points per game, um. Andyou know, and of course I understand

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you gave him the two games injuries, but I don't see that I see
a drop off after those first aidquarterbacks. Um. But if you can't
answer me how much though, howmuch of it is it? Twenty points
a lot of an analytical data drivenguy like you. But I do understand,
I do understand points per game.That's that's where my brain comes.

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It can comprehend and wrap it around. Um. And I just I mean,
I think Justin Field is surrounded witharguably as good weapons as the Cowboys
have. But will he throw theball thirty three times compared to twenty six
or twenty seven last year? EJ? Moorentown? He might just do
that. Yeah, I mean,you know, he definitely has more you

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know, more people to throw ittoo. I mean, I mean,
like I said, Fields looks likehe's progressing. They helped him out a
little bit by getting more um.But yeah, and as far as Swift,
I mean, I mean I wouldtake Swift over Penny. Penny I
haven't projected pretty low just because hehasn't stayed healthy. It's not like I
don't like him. I mean Iwas on him early in the fantasy career,

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but I used to draft him andget burned by a lot. But
he had you know, he hada good run for times. But uh,
you know he's also missed a lotof time. Yeah. I think
I think what and I think whatSnake was saying is is if nobody gets
like, if there's no injuries,I think for sure Penny is going to
be the better back to have there. But I think it'll be gross for
both of that if they're both,If they're both there going here, By

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the way, I'm gonna do thesenext two picks that will jump off because
it'll retard the push an hour anda half and we're gonna be doing kickers.
It seems to be the conventional wisdomnow on Swift and Penny. I
mean, it's it's turned. Theconsensus has turned sour recently on Swift,
and the more time goes by andit's getting higher on Penny. I think
that ADP gap is going to closeconsiderably as we come closer to UH to

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the year starting. And if itdoes, I think people should start grabbing
Swift. Yeah. No, thoseare those are those are good points there
too. I mean there's just soyou're a Swift guy, so you want
them to slide? Is that whatyou're telling me? Snake? Don't you
could say? Even though I thinkBurrow is going to score more points than
Patrick Mahomes you said that earlier.That's the second time. That's confirmation.

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That's a nice stick to it andPenny and Swift no opinion at this moment
um. All right, Well,listen, I got one pick left.
I'm gonna make it here later onthe clock because I could probably wait on
this guy a little bit, butI love I'm from Western New York,
so I follow this team the OrangeSean Sean Tucker here. He was an

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incredible running back for Syracuse. Ifit wasn't for the hard issue in the
in the combine, he would havebeen a third a third round pick,
yere to six or seven. Hedid undrafted. He went on, yeah,
undrafted, and so um, Ithink he he could be a thing
there. If not, it's asixteenth round and I'll cut him. But

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I think he might be as goodor better than rash Rashad White. But
that's like my that's like my littleguy that we're gonna make them been taken
late in these drafts, so Iend up with all the scantling and Tucker.
Let me run through my team realquick before we get off the stream.
Kelsey at tight end, Mahomes atquarterback. Running Backs are Barkley Charbonnet,
Bigsby Brown for the Bengals, Chandlerand Tucker. And my receivers I

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didn't get I didn't quite do ninestraight this time. Snake but I got
Hopkins, Marquis Brown, Treylon Burke's, Rashad Bateman, Quentin Johnston, Zay
Flowers, Michael Gallop, and MarcusValdez scantling Um. So you know,
I'm banking on end up some quickground at wide receiver there. Late.
I think that was well done.That was that sing charmonnay in the middle.
I mean too bad you didn't havea little charmonnay with your bijan.

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But I like it. Yeah,for what you did with the first three
picks, I don't think you couldhave done much better with the choice of
white outs. What do you thinkI think it fell right. Yeah,
I think it came out well.I think the Team three beats you though
that that's fine. Listen, I'ma gonna team Team Frost. We're coming

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for you. We're coming for you. But before we go, just want
to remind everyone to hey, putI'm full time fantasy in the chat and
have a shot here to win athree hundred and fifty dollars three hundred forty
nine dollars sorry mid stakes team hereover at the f wc um Snake.
Thank you so much joining us,tod I do you were I appreciate it.
It's been a pleasure and an honordoing with you guys. For the

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record, I like Team nine ThoughtRicky, Ricky Row. Yeah, I
love it Ricky Rowe, so wegot u Team Crowtrost obviously, but also
Team Ricky. The reason I likeis what he did with his squad.
It's my players. Selection would havebeen different, but I like the fact
that he was able to procure thetop quarterback end tight end, which is

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what you did, but he didit a lot cheaper, much cheaper.
I'm not saying that that Waller andHerbert are going to outscore Kelsey Mahomes.
That's not what I'm saying. Butthat's draft. No. I totally totally
get it. And Sean likes Teamthree, Team Frost zero, RB Maven
over over over here for sure.Again, not even the micro takes of
the players, but just the buildsstuff like that. So no, I

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love it. I love the buildshere. I love doing the doing these
shows and learn it so um Butyeah, everyone put down full time fantasy
in there. We're doing these almostevery Friday from here here on out.
I'm excited. Thanks for joining me, Snake, thanks for joining me.
Sean and we will see you guysnext week. Good luck this year,
guys, everybody, good luck,see you guys,