Live FFWC Main Event Draft

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What is up? Everybody? Welcometo the Grind Time Podcast. I am
your host, Adam Krautwursten. Withme is Jack cole Sheen, the number
two player in this tournament last season. I tricked him into co owning a
team with me this year, andwe are ready to go from the twelve

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spot draft starting and now now onesecond, now, I think Jack,
what's up, buddy? Ready toroll? Ready? Yeah? Yeah,
I was down at Panthers training campdoing scouting just for this draft, so
I'm getting in the extra leg work. Yeah, We're not gonna have to
worry about that scouting until like roundSo I think we're good. I think

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I think we're good there. Butbut yeah, this is this is so
much fun. This is the guys. This is the first main event FWC
Live, main event of the year. Right now, Jack and I are
coming at you. We're gonna giveyou all the ADP Early ADP will be
here on the stream, so checkit out. For sure. We're gonna
be going pick by pick through thisentire draft. We have picked twelve,

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which I'm more than comfortable in becauseevery single draft I've done, every significant
draft I've done, has been sowhich is good. I picked ten eleven
twelve because now I'm comfy with itand zone right your strike zone, that's
right, that's right. This ismy this is my this is my sweet
spot. So we are the Legionof Doom. Pick pick twelve, and

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I am excited. One hundred andfifty thousand dollars top prize to the to
the winner of this whole thing.Jack came at second last year. Congratulations.
And but the thing that I lovethe most about these leagues, guys,
is the ten thousand dollars League Prize, the Dominator for points and record.
No other high stakes in the businessis doing that is given out that

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type of that type of ROI forthe league winner. So it's gonna be
tough, man. You win thisleague with all these with all these dudes,
Uh, it's gonna be a toughthing. You definitely earned it.
But I'm just stacked room tonight.It's definitely stacked. So if we if
if we get that dominator, thatsays something that's right, So super excited,
but chalk so far right. JustinJefferson, Jamar Chase, Tyreek,

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Kale, Christian McCaffrey, Cooper Cup, Austin Ekeler, that's pretty chalk.
But then pick seven A J.Brown. What do you think about that?
Jack? That was a guy wewere looking thinking about for number pick
twelve, he was You know,it's a certainly a bold stance, But
at the same time I get itbecause I think there's a lot of arguments
to be made about the untapped potentialof the Philadelphia offense. You know,

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then basically U second half of mostgames last year just running the ball down
their throat because they were head byfourteen points that didn't need to throw.
So I think with a more challengingschedule there's certainly even more meat on the
bone for Philly. Yeah. No, I I completely agreed. I want

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to I'll i'll hearts and pieces ofthat Philly offense. So yeah, it's
gonna be it's gonna be good.So far, what do we I mean,
we don't want to give up toomuch here because we're because we're on
the clock, on the clock,sho. But there goes Stefon Diggs again,
chalk, Jack, Do you wantto talk every talk to everybody and
listening about who what type of rosterconstruction we got for this Quarterbacks, running

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backs, receivers. Sure, sure, so you're starting single quarterback, two
running backs, three wide receivers.One of the unique parts of the FFWC
is both three wide and then alsotwo flexes and then defense and kicker.
Unfortunately, I think Scott is okay, we're getting getting rid of those,

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but you know everybody else's we gotsome some other people that aren't so aren't
so keen on that, but Ilike, I like the idea I'm getting
rid of that stuff. But maybemaybe next year. Uh stuff on dig
ceedee lamb, I'm on Ross SaintBrown. Travis Kelsey almost gets to us
at twelve. What are we thinkinghere? See Kelsey goes at the eleven?
What are we thinking? Yep?Bijevante, Garrett Wilson available. I'm

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I look a couple of guys.I like Wilson, I like Bijean,
I like I know you were Iknow you were Adams as well. What
do you think? Let's go Wilson. Wilson, thank you for that.
We talked about that. Yeah,definitely amicable. We're gonna trade back and
forth here and negotiate. I givingyou some of you you were now for

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the second pick, second pick,since you gainy Wilson I'm okay with letting
you do whatever you want here.We talked Bijan, we talked Adams.
I'll let you make I'm good witheither, with either either one of them.
Ill you know, we're thinking bigpicture too, like many team's gonna
have these type of builds. Goahead, talk it through. You know.

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I'm interested in Bijon. Uh.Kind of tempted for Wattle, but
I think because just because of theupside of that offense. But you know
what I think, based on structureand how we've kind of discussed how we'd
like our team to unfold. I'mgonna go Adams do it. Do it?

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Accidentally auto picked the wrong there wego. Okay, Wilson, Adams,
Yeah, very on brand. Uh, talk to the talk to me.
You know we discussed it. Yousaid you were high on Adams.
We did our little rankings before theshow. I got my guy, You
got your guy. I love GarrettWilson. You know, it was funny.

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It was all over, not allover. But there was a couple
of tweets today I was on adifferent show talking about Garrett Wilson. I
think he google as high as widereceiver four this season. I love Garrett
Wilson. He's gonna have you know, six touchdowns from the one yard line,
uh this year. But so Ilove him that that was my guy.
Adams is your guy talked to meabout about Adams. I just I
think there's a lot of overreactions withAdams. The guy has not been a

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wide receiver. He's been a widereceiver once since like twenty seventeen. In
the past several years, it's beenlike the top four I believe wide receivers.
He's consistent no matter what, thirtygame, thirty point game with Jared
Stidham. He's just fine. WithDerek Carr. I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo
is necessarily, you know, anupgrade, But I don't think he's that

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much of a downgrade from Derek Carrwhen Derek Carr had a subpar Derek Carr
season last year, and you know, all things being considered, he can
perform under anything. So you know, I think it's one of those cases
of not getting not overthinking it.The guy is a freak of nature and
is performed, and I'm going tocontinue to take him until he shows me
otherwise. Yeah, to me,I'm okay, perfectly fine with Adams as

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wide receiver ten. I think thatis perfectly perfectly. I mean, I'm
not on Adams as much as youare this year, but again with the
tier where we're getting him, Ihad a waddle, of course, wide
receiver ten's fine. It's it's thedecision to where do we want our roster
construction to look like. And youyou rattled off, but right before we

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took that pick of two running backs, three receivers, two flux. We
can start up the five receivers andthe highest scoring players over the last ten
years. And PPR are wide receivers, not the top guys. The top
guys are still running backs. ButI think Adams, you know, getting
those two wide receivers right there,already out of the way, I think

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was really big for us. Theonly other player which we talked about earlier,
that we could have gone with therefor me, would have had Bijean
Robinson. He falls to the twooh four, which I think some great
He loses RB five. I haven'tseen him go RB five. You know,
someone loves Tony Pollard there at theeleven spot. Very very interesting.

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Pollard, Barkley Robinson go at thetwo O two to three Duo four.
Where would you rank those three guys? I would go Bijan Pollard, Saquan
That's interesting, so power, whywhy pa Hey? Just like injury stuff,
offense stuff. You know, ifyou actually look at the numbers,
he hasn't He's never really returned tothe efficiency his pre injury history of efficiency.

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He got there last year. Onvolume, I think he's going to
continue to get a lot of volume. Although the Darren Waller acquisition certainly opens
up new options for the Giants sothat they're not having to be quite so
dependent. But I think Pollard hasthe the untapped potential and upside that we
haven't fully seen when he's given youknow, a backfield largely of his own

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instead of you know, in ain a very fifty fifty time share where
with all the red zone looks goingto Zeke, I think there's still more
room to grow or as sa Quanis going to be more volume dependent.
Yeah, I'd like to see seQuan ticket. I mean, we won't
know until we see him, butanother year off the injury, hopefully we
can get some of that burst back. But that'll be interesting. So Barkley

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Robinson, Jalen Waddle, then DeVontaSmith and Nick Chubb and Jonathan Taylor,
Chris Olavy, t Higgins pretty prettychalky, which is fine in the second
half, and we say, chalk. We know this is the first draft
of the main season. But youknow, Jack and I have been doing
this, doing this. We havewe haven't stopped. We haven't stopped so
to an unhealthy level, to anunhealthy level. But but in comparison to

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like the circa, the Las VegasCircuit Championships, you know, those those
this it's been very similar to that, outside of kind of Kelsey falling to
the eleven spot and Bijan and kindof falling to the mid second, which
I'm sure Team eight is happy abouttheir nine. That's happy about that.
But running the XT going a littlehigher in this in this draft than we're

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kind of used to seeing, howJack yeah, yeah, And then you
know that could be either uh,you know, since we're still in the
second round, hard to tell overallroster. That can be you know,
the start of a hero build,or that could be a more robust RB
tick. You know the six spotthere with Eckler and Chub, two great
running backs, you know that thatmay be the start of a running back

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onslaught or they may not touch itfor the next ten rounds another green sticker,
So we'll see how that plays out. Yep, Yep, totally.
And again, the cool thing aboutplaying on the ff wc's it's it's the
unique structure right to being able tostart five five receivers. It's not tight
end premium. It's you know,none of that stuff. It's not super

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flex at least during the main event, isn't. So you know you've got
tight ends sometimes get pushed down.Quarterbacks and get pushed down. Receivers get
pushed up. So it's like adifferent kind of build coming almost similar to
like like a like an underdog typeof type of build, except receivers in
this get full full PPR. Soit's going to be interesting to see.
Kind of the toughest spot for mein drafts that I've done has been at

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this like eleven twelve hole at thethree four turn. But we we discussed
that turn pretty extensively before the show, so we we have we have a
plan. One of the guys we'rehoping to get Jimmire Gibbs, well a
guy I was hoping to guy.I think you knew he wasn't going to
be there, but a guy Iwas hoping to get one of the three
aspirational aspiration. I know, andI think he's a guy. Jack.

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We talked about this. I thinkit was with you maybe a couple of
weeks ago, or I might havebeen with Mike Schope or both of you.
That's probably he's a guy that's gonnabe my main event season September.
And they especially with the with thefree look on Thursday night, So people
don't understand if you're watching this too, is we don't have to set our
lineups till after Thursday night football.We get the free look at the Detroit

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Lions and the Chiefs. With thatfree look and all the other question marks,
all the other running backs, Gibbsis going to move up, maybe
even the late second. Harry isn'tat three oh one. Yeah, especially
for any drafts that take place afterthe Thursday night game, I could easily
see Gibbs flying up the board.After a big game, you know the

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lines are a little short. Playingagainst Kansa City Chiefs gonna be a high
scoring games, so you know yousee a blow up and all of a
sudden he's racing up the draft board. But yeah, the sneak peak is
another great feature of the FFWC.It's just a lot of fun bit of
strategy and really a great game forit to take place on this year with
Chiefs and Lions. Just a funopportunity in another little wrinkle to try to

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get that edge in the in thefirst week. Yes, yeah, for
sure. And I think that's stubs, that's that's that's a tiebreaker for me.
You know, it's interesting when youdraft after the Thursday night game,
like, you know, do youwant to load up on guys that you
know are got get locked in points? You know, it's it's interesting stuff
stuff like that. So but yeah, give is a guy that I'm gonna

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have a bit of and so I'mexcited about that. But we are on
the clock coming up here soon.Let's see the third round went Jamir Gibs,
Jerry Judy, Kelvin Ridley, DKMetcalf, Joe Mixon, Amari Cooper
mixing early. I mean running backsare going early in this in this in
this draft, there's no fear inhere of any issues with them holdouts or

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contracts or injury, and there's nolisten, everyone's the people in here have
their head have their flags planted,you know, they have their flags planted
on these guys, and they're readyto go. So we'll see Keenan Allen
goes off the board here, I'mgonna I'm gonna pull the curtain back for
a second and take a look atsome of the some of these players here.

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Again, you and I talked,so we kind of know where where
we're How does that going into thesepicks? So I don't want to give
too much away. We're right,is this? Thank god it's Team Kicker.
I push it down a little bitTeam Team Kicker, especially Lions with
the free look. Yeah, Idon't know, I love it. I'm

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excited. Let's go here coming up? All right, we're up in man,
we're sloping like four picks. Ifeel like it's yeah, that's right,
that's right. So a lot ofyellow d DJ Moore off the board,
a guy that we weren't going totake at the three four we taught

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We just discussed that although I ama little higher, I mean, we
could kill some time here. I'n'tthink I'm a little higher on DJ more
than you are, and maybe wecould talk about a little more after our
pick. I just think that there'sa there's a mini pre Eagles breakout like
they did Jalen Hurts. Is hethe starting quarterback? Is he not?
What do we have in him?They add weapons, they had weapons and

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all of a sudden, hurts explode. I think DJ Moore could be that,
like he's not as good as J. J. Brown, but he
could be that spark that Devita SmithJ Brown type spark to an offense.
I think he's a guy that fieldscan buy time and and and hit.
DJ Moore. I think he's betterthan people give him credit for. I
think he's still only twenty two yearsold, right Jack. I mean everyone
everyone's always saying he's just he's alwaysso young. Right to me, he's

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just. I have serious concerns aboutthe volume that he's going to get just.
I mean people always go to Atlanta. Is the example of you know,
not passing that was actually Chicago lastyear more than anything. And then
on top of that, I thinkit's just I get I hesitate when there's
that strong narrative of you know,young running quarterback gets a weapon. Therefore

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it's going to be the same result. DJ Moore is not Stefon Diggs or
A. J. Brown and JustinFields. He's not Hurts. Oh all
right, all right, we gotsniped. But here we go. We
got want to Watson? All right, we got what are we thinking?

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Uh, there's Breefe on the board, and then we talked about him.
Yea, Debo is still there.I definitely like Breece. I think he's
a guy that we we talked about. He I could see him going much
higher in this format in a coupleof weeks if the news turns out right.
He's a guy that could end upgoing into two three turn if if

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they don't sign Cook. So Ithink I like Breece and I also like
Debo too. I know you talkedabout Debo. He's a guy that I
would certainly take here too. Allright, so we just took Bruce and
yeah, I think I'm okay withDebo. Do you want to just do
you want to discuss Andrews or arewe I'm Debo? I'm fine with Debo.

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I feel good here. All right, let's do let's let's let Andrews
slide. Okay, fine, perfect, Oh, Watson's a heart heartbreaker,
But listen, I'm Actually glad Watsonwas gone because a lot to agree on
two guys, because if Watson wasstill there, we would have had Watson
and Debo and Bruce Hall. Wewould have had to figure out. I
feel like, I'm uh, yeah, no, that's that sucks that Watson

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went there. But listen, that'swhere he's been going wide receiver twenty two.
I mean, I can't I can'treally complain. That's what happens when
you pick twelve behind guys who knowwhat they're doing. But yeah, listen
Wilson. Oh there goes Mark Andersdouble tight hold on, hold on now,
Now I'm annoyed he should have takenfreaking Mark Andrews to pick switched it.

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Oh my god, Like all right, let's talk real quick. Let's
talk our picked Bruce Hall. This. So this is a guy that we
talked about before the show, DalvinCook. Look what's taking I You and
I both believe that maybe he's usingthe Jets is leverage, uh to get
more out of Miami or out ofa different team. Why isn't he mind
there yet? Miami offered and something. He said, No, you know,

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they don't need Delvin Cook there.I think they just watch somebody for
the first three or four games tolet Bruce Hall chill, which I'm fine.
If they come out today and said, hey, listen, we're signing
Zeke Elliott and Breeze Hall is goingto go on the pup for the first
for four weeks, I would stillhave taken him at the three four turn.
You know, let the guy rest. We're going to get some running
backs later. I'm okay with that. I'm not afraid of Delvin Cook signing

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there because I don't think he's gonnaat this point. Your thoughts, Yeah,
I agree, like you said,Miami gave him the offer, he
declines the offer, waits a week, goes out and does the visit.
You know, I feel like ifhe if he was interested in signing,
he got the full treatment, heprobably would have signed. And if anything,
he's got to be looking at,you know, the rest of his
career, the chance for additional money. And you know, he, like

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you said, he's getting the earlyseason at most from the Jets. He's
not out competing Bruce Hall over thecourse of the year year, whereas a
team like Miami he could theoretically startthe entire year and be kind of the
lead back in that situation, rejuvenatehis career in that way and go home.
So you know, obviously they're playingit safe with Bruce Hall, and

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so as we build out this team, we've got to have the expectation that
he's not going to be the BrueseHall that you know pre injury where he
left off in Week one. ButI'm confident in our ability to build around
that and take advantage of the secondhalf of the season emergence of Bruese Hall
in particularly, And listen, BruceHall, if there was no injury last

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year, I know we could playthis game. But if there was no
injury last year, he'd be goingin the first round. Absolutely, he'd
be a first roun running back.So if I'm getting a first roar running
back from Week four to the endof the season, and I know I
can kind of playing around that,I love it. Deebo Samuel, I
like him in that range of guys, I would have liked Watson better.
But other than other than Watson,I like Deebo. There he again,

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when all the forty nine ers arehealthy, they all struggle to really dominate,
but when one of them goes down, the rest of them are fine,
and Debo was disgusted with the waythat he played late a little last
year. You know, he's asall great as critic. Where are you
at, Deebo? I love himat I had a Christian Kurt. I
mean he was Why was he forthree two years ago? Or why two?

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He's one of my favorite picks.Yeah, and it's because even when
CMC was there, if you actuallylook, you're still getting he still performed
and then led the league in tartarthat led the team in targets. It
was really Kittle that took the backseat once CMC was there. He also,
by far compared to Ayuk, isthe first bread option if you look
at how to play his breakdown inthat way, and you know, with

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with more certainty around Rock Purty versusthe other options, I think, especially
as Purdy's coming back from injury,it's going to be a lot of short,
intermediate throws, things in the backfieldand that that that's all Debo,
So I think it sits up fora great season. Also, he's got
the weird odd even thing, soyou know it's a it's an odd year,

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so that has to work. I'mpretty sure it's science. It is
it is science. Uh No,I absolutely love it. You know,
I want a guy as our widereceiver three who has those Spike Weeks.
I mean, he's he's gonna startfor us every week, but he's got
that wide receiver one potential every singleweek. You can't say that about you
know a lot of like Terry McLaurin. You know, you know, as

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much as I love Jante Johnson,I mean Johnsonite Christian Kirk, like,
they're not gonna have those They don'thave the upside of those debos Amuel Spike
Weeks. So no, I'm definitelyexcited about about that pick for sure.
Yeah. No, I kind ofkind of went to plan. What are
you seen here in the third onanything? Stand out Jack? Everybody's catching

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up here on wide receivers after himor running back heavy start. You know
you're seeing after Andrews and the bullytight end approach. From the eleven.
You've got Kirk, Hopkins, etn and Hurts, the Hurts the first
quarterback off the board, h TerryNagy, Deonte Johnson, Chris Godwin,
Marquis Brown, and Brandon Iyuku andthen Tyler Lockett there. So we've got

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the three spot starting with four widereceivers and then then several teams with three
and a running back. So uh, definitely teams taking advantage of the unique
format here at FWC. Yeah,no, I completely agree. I mean
we knew there would be this receiverrun and there it is. Teams that
went running back. How you're doingit? Teams that I have no running

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backs at all are doing it,and I think it's I think it's really
cool. Some I wanted to showpeople too. Over at FWC, the
premium membership type stuff is this isthis ADP information over here. You get
the standard deviation, the high andthe low of each player. So you
go to a guy that that wejust took Deebo Samuel, Right, it's

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not just about the ADP is ADPis thirty, it's about how high has
he gone? He's got as highas twenty fourth right, which the end
of the second, and as lowas fortieth. Right. You can get
all this information for premium subscriptions overhere. That's what kind of helps you.
You know, is it a isit a big standard deviation? You
know how big is the window?Is it a tight window? So I

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think all this stuff is stuff thatwe're gonna be using again. This is
for the CIRCU Championship because we're settingthe ADP tonight for the main event,
which which will be a tab willbe in here for that soon. But
this is the ADP list and everybodyhas to go check that out because it's
super super helpful for sure, andstuff that, like I know, you
know, I don't know us thattheir premium stuff, Jack, I know

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I do. It's you know,the ADP board is super helpful, all
that stuff, all the tools.No other site has these type of tools
built into their draft room. Imean it's it's it's just crazy. No.
I use the ADP list and theADP board, uh pretty much every
day I'm doing draft prep. Youknow, the list, being able to
see the last ten and just reallysee how it's evolved and how it's evolving,

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and then being able to visualize thatquickly in the board so you're able
to put it up and get anidea of who's available where. It really
helps with you know, planning outwhen you know your draft position right exactly.
And so yeah, I got noplace else is doing that. This
is this is like premium YouTube subscriptionmembership type stuff here. Don't forget everyone,

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please like and subscribe to the tothe YouTube channel here because we're doing
I mean, we're doing live drafts. Its probably wouldn't be my own.
I might even do another one ofthese lives. I don't know if Jack
wants to show another one of hislive but it's I just love doing it.
I love talking about it, likeI don't you know, And I
totally get people we're in this forthe money, but it's fun and it's

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fun to like help people, andit's fun to talk about it. And
I just love the I love thecamaraderie and the network of people here.
They have the WC Sure, soall right, little little quarterback on here
Mahomes Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Hurtz obviouslygoes to the A. J. Brown
Devanta Smith team earlier in the fourthin the fourth round here, so yeah,

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I mean, quarterback could be anoption for us here, Jack,
you know, on the two tightends off the board, a couple of
players here we're looking at, yeah, and certainly you know where we're at
in the draft, or look atwe've got down here at the end we're
making the two picks. But thenwith the room we've got there's not a

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lot of falling values, and soreally it's looking ahead to the to the
round ahead and seeing who you mightneed to reach out and get right because
nobody's falling here. Yeah, sointeresting this team Team eleven. We forgot
to talk about this Kelsey Andrews doubletight end thing here. I mean it's

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not tight end premium, so Imean tight ends usually fall all. Do
you think this is a team construction, like no one else is going to
do this tournament type thing for teamto to Team eleven. Yeah, it
certainly could be that, and thenit's got an aspect of that. I
think it could also just as wellbe you know, really playing for the

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league, you know, like we'retalking about the fantastic ROI at the league
level and really denying the rest ofthe league to the elite tight end options
really put yourself at a at anedge at least in those positions. So
it could be a play for theleague in that Dominator prize. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be. It'sgonna be a tough, a tough one

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there to get Mark Andrews up toyou know, got to start the flexeve
ever every week, although I guessAndrews could put up if people's flexes are
weak. Uh, Andrews could certainlycompete there for sure, But we'll see
how the rest of the roster turnsout that they might be behind it some
of the other positions. Jordan Addisonjust goes on the clock, of course,

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sniped again by Team Team eleven.Ason was a guy we were looking
at. So Hawkinson is he ishe? Is he holding in Jack or
no is? I heard some whispersof that, you know, I've heard
it too, but nothing necessarily confirmedand nothing that scares me off it.
I think I think there's a bigdrop after those top three, obviously in

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a tier of their own, Kelseyand then Andrews. But I think Hawk
is the closest thing to being ableto compete at the elite tight end level.
So that's that's my vote. Okay, go go, go, go
Hawkinson, get that get that pickout out of the way, all right.
And then so here we've got youknow, receivers are kind of me
and then we have running backs.I mean, what do we have We've

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got? Sorry, I'm ken Walkerhas fallen a bit. We've got wide
receiver thirty seven against RB seventeen,you know that type of deal. Are
you you still want to go receiverhere? Open you know, I like,
I like Cooks here, but wecan also go somebody like Kenneth Walker

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or Alexander Madison. What do youthink I would go? Let's go receiver
again. Let's I'm fine with receiverbecause receiver drives up quick like by the
time particular one, no pick one, I trust your jodge. Yeah,
there's they're all. It's all thesame tier. To me, if I

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had a quarterback already, it wouldhave been a spot. We're like,
hey, let's try to stack him. But at this point, let's just
load up on receivers and and andthen maybe cook we can get we can
get the quarterback later, you knowthat and and that order, so for
sure, all right, so let'sso let's let's show this year. So
we went Hockins and Cooks, wecould tight end three. And that's probably

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so that's something that we're that we'recomfortable with. Now. I really like
Hocketts and again, all these playersincluding yeah, every player we have,
we could still stack with their withtheir quarterback, you know. So that's
always that's always nice. And thisyear in particular, this year in particular,
I feel like the value of atop three tight end to where now
I just don't even have to thinkabout it. So it really frees up

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roster spots. Yeah, and thatI can put elsewhere. Yeah, exactly
so, And we probably and weweren't we work getting Hawk on the way
on the next rap, right,I mean, tight ends and quarterbacks fall
in this format. But Hawk wasit coming back around. He's awesome.
So I think I think that'll that'llwork itself out. Cooks is interesting to

(29:45):
me, So I like, Ilike Cooks, I like like the offense.
Why do you like Cooks over I'mnot going to mention names, but
why do you like him over someof the other guys that were there in
that in that range? Sure,so for example Dots and just went to
the ten spot there. So Ithink last season for Cooks it was an

(30:06):
aberration and an otherwise stellar career.I mean, it was very clear that
the organization was falling apart. Thereis a lot of internal discord. There's
a lot of dirty laundry getting airedabout a promise to be traded and that
being denied, and just a reallyawful team altogether, you know. Other
than that, he's had even regardlessof the environment he's been in, He's

(30:30):
performed thousand yard receiver most almost everyseason he's played. And I think the
environment behind a great offensive line betweenyou know, a above average quarterback in
Dak Prescott and finally not having tocarry the load like he was in Houston,
but instead having Ceedee Lamb take someof that pressure off of him.

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And then when you look at thevacated targets, you know, Dalton Schultz
is gone powerhouse, Noah Brown isgone from the Dallas Cowboys, but that's
all targets and that opens it up. So I think it's a tremendous opportunity
for him. Yeah, he's twentynine, Jack. He almost feel like
this guy's been in the league forone hundred years, Right, He's only
twenty nine. He's performed everywhere he'sbeen Jerry. Whenever Jerry brings in a

(31:18):
new toy, right, he allhe wants to use it, he wants
to roll it out there, hewants to use it. I think the
offense is going to be if Gallupis really healthy and people people are talking
about, oh Gallup get hurt,I think they all all helps each other
again. He's our wide receiver four. He's wide receiver thirty eight. Some
weeks so we wire receiver fifty.But some weeks so we wide receiver fifteen
in that offense. So and againstarting him in that in that flex spot.

(31:44):
I think it's going to be sweetfor us. So happy to flex
him. Yeah, had had happyto flex him. There goes Elijah Moore,
a guy we were hoping might makeit back to us, A guy
that I like, a guy thatI'll have plenty of. I do like
Elijah Moore. There James Cook offthe word. I want to talk to
him, to him about him alittle bit, because I'm from the western
New York area. I'm the Billsfan. And here's the deal with Cook.

(32:06):
Everyone's high on Cook. He's beenflying up the draft boards because he
had a forty yard run in thescrimmage or whatever. Listen, when you
are drafting running backs, especially inthe top twenty, like Cook now is
RB nineteen in a in a bigmoney draft. Here you are running backs
that catch passes and score touchdowns.The Bills don't throw the ball to the

(32:27):
running backs, and he's the thirdoption at the goal line behind behind the
best goal line option in the NFLJosh Allen and Damien Harris. So unless
something happens that's completely Could he getthe goal line work, he could.
Could they start throwing in the runningback? They could, But I just
don't see it happening. I wasokay with taking some pieces of him at

(32:52):
like RB thirty stuff like that,but at RB nineteen, you know,
I had have a guy like KennethWalker, who when healthy's going to be
insane. You know, I knowhe's split, He's splitting carry is just
like Cook, he's splitting carries.He's better. You know, Miles Sanders
had a little injury. I getit, But like, I don't know,
man, he goes Alexander Madison.They hate I'm Madison right now is

(33:14):
insane. Madison is gonna see waymore up. He's going to catch the
passes and and be the goal lineback for the Minnesota Vikings. So I
don't know, what do you thinkabout Cook? Well? I thought a
lot more highly of them until youstarted talking, and now you're you're convincing.
Uh, you know, I thoughtmaybe part of the upside. They

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went and got Dalton Kincaid and they'rethey're basically mirroring. Uh, some of
the other responses to the two highsafeties of like start playing at a you
know, with two tight ends moreoften than you know, focusing more like
the Chiefs with Pacheco or Msennon tryingto you know, maybe change their game
a bit. But that is alot of wish casting. Sure, necessarily

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when you have an option like MilesSanders who Dobbins Like yeah, yeah,
well I have my issues with Dobbins, but you know, Madison was not
available at that point. But butcertainly getting a lot of hate that I
think is probably unjustified. But yeah, specifically Ken Walker or Miles Sanders with

(34:24):
a bit more not only defined role, but it seems like the team really
wants to use them more as acenterpiece versus kind of a luxury pick.
Yeah. Now again again RB thirty. Fine, Uh, if he was
getting the goal line work, fine, if he was getting the pass down

(34:46):
work, fine, But they justagain, they could change their offense completely
and start doing that. But Ijust until that happens. I mean,
it's again, it's a lot ofwish casting, it's a lot of whatever.
But anyway, it's a it's ahigh risk, high reward because you're
trying to get ahead of the curvebefore it happens, and if you hit,
then we're all going to look likedumbasses. But right, that's right,

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And trust me, no one's moreafraid to miss on Bills players than
I am. But but shame toyour house. It's so listen. I
made so much money off Josh Allenhis first year coming out because I was
just like, this guy's gonna bethe man. I watched him play in
person. But I don't I don'twant to lose money. But listen,
Elijah a guy you took, wetook Cooks. I liked Elijah Moore.

(35:30):
He's gone, Gabe Davis gone,Zay Flower's gone. Sutton's rising up draft
boards after he lost, saying helost some weight, saying he looks like
the best receiver in camp. Soa couple of guys maybe we hope might
get back to us, are notgoing to make it back. It's crazy,
man, here we are. We'retalking about running backs fine off the
board, where at RB twenty twoand wide receiver forty three, it's just

(35:52):
the gap. And which makes mefeel even better about taking the receivers as
early as we did, because nowWe're not like, oh God, now
we got a flat wide receiver,you know, sixty, you know,
although we might still have to dothat, Damian Pierce. So I'm going
to actually hop into the I'm hoppingto the draft or sooner than I normally

(36:12):
do, because I want to getkind of a feel for what's available here,
you know, before our pick comesup. So we're not so we're
not panicking. Quarterbacks and options still, there's some some quarterback options available,
some high upside guys. We don'thave to talk, we don't have to
say this to say their names.Running back, there's some running back options

(36:34):
available if we want to go thatroute. I like this tier backs here
too, whoever kind of makes itto us. And wide receivers thin,
which is why we took one ofthe less go around. So yeah,
and that is kind of a lotof it. Like you were talking about,
when you, especially in this format, focus on the wide receivers early,

(36:55):
I feel like it gets the toughstep out of the way and then
allows more opportunities to kind of fallto you instead of scrambling to find,
you know, that that extra widereceiver to get the depth you need.
But you know, I'm pretty biasedon that. So yeah, yeah,
no, I get it. Andlisten, I'm so I just took a
look over the board, over theavailable players. There's a couple of guys
I'm really comfortable to taking. Sowhen it gets to us, I'll have

(37:19):
my I'll be I'll be ready,ready to roll. So skymore. Michael
Thomas, Jamison, william Jamison,Javata Jamison Williams goes off the board as
wide receiver forty seven. And this, yeah, this is this is where
it starts starts to get ugly here. All that's funny. All the tight

(37:39):
ends here at our end of theboard. It's when you do tight end
tight end premium. This year,the tight ends usually are going at the
other end of the board. TheKelsey's going higher, you know. Andrews
goes at the two three turn.Hockinson goes at the two three turn.
So it's interesting how you kind offlip flap sites or flip flap rules and

(38:00):
guys kind of flip flap boards.But cam Akers goes off as RB twenty
four, the last the last teamwithout running back now has won at seven
here RB with cam Akers, sothat team is a J Brown DeVonta Smith,
keenan Allen, Jalen Hurts, MikeEvans, Elijah Moore, Cam Akers.

(38:21):
I really like that team. Ireally like that team. So hopefully
we you know, no running backsmake it back to them again. Kamara
only missing two games three, I'msorry, three to three games, I
say, I say only, butyou know it's a quarter of the season,
because you know, in high stakesit's short seasons. Yeah, yeah,

(38:45):
it matters. Although we say thatas the people that drafted Bruce Halt,
so it must. But listen,when Gesaw comes back, I accepted
to be a top five or sixback. When Kamara comes back, I'm
not expecting that gonna have the sameexpectation. Yeah, but no, no,
no, no, I don't.I don't have to say I'm sorry.

(39:07):
I was sorry. I was Iwas reading someone saying that we don't
have any players in our r Q. It's like, yeah, we can't,
we can't do that, all right, But David Montgomery just want we
are up here in two picks.Anyone off the top of your head right
now, that's just burning a holein your engne in your pocket. I
mean, you don't have to saythe name right now, but is there
is there a guy. Yeah,there's a couple. Yeah, I agree.

(39:30):
I'm kind of excited about about thispick here, these picks. Yeah,
there's a couple of different couple.I know a couple of differents here.
And I can't believe we're gonna I'mnormally I'm like twenty seconds behind on

(39:50):
our on our pick, and nowI'm like ready to ready to jump all
over. I think I know whoyou love and and I love them too.
Look at team Team eleven just wantsto snipe us for milk in it.
Yeah, they want to snipe usagain. What happened time again for
me? At least time out?Maybe they don't want them all right?

(40:15):
Okay, that was alright? Alright, quarterback, do we like any of
these QB's Burrow Herbert Fields? Yeah? Are you okay with pushing it?
I'll push it. I'll continue topush it. But okay, I was
actually looking Rashad White, Okay,fine, Love, I was just gonna
say I was gonna go to runningback. I loved White. I love

(40:35):
DeAndre Swift too. We can takeone of them, we can take two
of them. Were you thinking anyreceiver? Uh, well, other than
the one that just went I wasn'tthinking of other other than Johnston. Yes,
and if you want to push,so, if you want to push
QB and we want to stay atrunning back, I'm more of a Swift,

(40:57):
So I think Swift. There's possibilitiesfor Swift to end up like a
top ten back, like injuries tocertain players, like he could just be
really good there in that offense.I mean, what do you think?
No, I like it, youknow, I think it's another one of
those high risk, high reward.But but you know, I don't think

(41:19):
Penny. Even if Penny's the guyfor a burst, I think with injury
history, DeAndre Swift and the uniquerole that he has, I feel good
about that. I'll love it,okay, So yeah, take to take
Swift there and then and then wecan talk about that more. I freaking
love that turn. There were somany guys that I wanted. I would
have been okay with a quarterback,but I'm okay pushing it too, Like

(41:43):
like we talked about before the draft, for sure, Quentin Johnston, I
was ready to just high five methrough the screen when he found out.
Yeah, we even talked about thatone before and then as soon as so
Quentin Johnson like we're thinking, andthen I look at his team, like,
my god, he's got too freakingreceives verse. Of course he's gonna
take Johnson and sure, and thenhe times out on Johnston. Yeah freaking

(42:04):
believe. Anyways, Okay, Igotta tell you, I love that turn
for us. For running backs.These are high catch guys, these are
high upside guys, and I thinkit is perfect for our for our build.
If Breece Haw's out, fine,We've got Rashad White who's probably gonna
be the guy there. DeAndre Swift, who again, if we're gonna when

(42:30):
that if when Penny gets hurt,when Penny gets hurt, Swift is going
to be the guy there. Swiftest. I get he hasn't been lived up
the expectations, but we're talking aboutan elite offense with an elite line,
and Jalen Hurts throws the ball morethan you would think for a scrambling quarterback.
He throws the ball more than youwould think too the running backs.
So I just think there's there's massiveupside there. Talk to me about White

(42:54):
and Swift, Yeah, I thinkit's a great combination, a great pair
sort of balances each other out.I mean, Rashad White going to get
the full opportunity. There's really nobodythat's that's going to challenge him for any
really significant snaps. With Fournette gone, it's wheels up for him. And

(43:15):
I do think his numbers might havebeen a little impinged last year based upon
a lot of injuries to the offensiveline. That offensive line is now healthy
again, and I could see eitherBaker or Kyle Trask in a lot of
situations where you need to pitch itoff in the short or behind the line

(43:36):
of scrimmage to a running back tosave themselves. So I think he could
be in for a great year.But then it's also been balanced with Swift.
I mean, it's, you know, by by most estimates, the
number one offensive line in the league. It's just a quality offense. And
in general, you know, fantasyfootball, if you're not sure, buy
into quality offenses. And I think, uh, you know, Swift is

(43:58):
another example of you know, somesome strange injuries last year that that aren't
necessarily reoccurring issuies. It reoccurring injuriesthat really weighed him down, and he
played through maybe when he should havesat out for a period of time.
But regardless, I think we couldmaybe this was Swift was going. It

(44:22):
was not too long ago when hewas what second round based off of all
the hype around him. So Ithink in a much in an even better
team situation with some pretty fragile competitionif things go right, huge upside for
us at running back. There wheredid we just take him at pick what

(44:44):
was the overall pick eighty five?Pick eighty five, so his running back
twenty eight? Yeah? In theCircle Championship, I know it's it's the
it's the midstakes. His low wasninety two, So like, I feel
like we got him all almost athis absolute, you know, lowest point
as far as draft spot. Youknow, his high his high was sixty

(45:07):
eight. So it's just like Ijust love that from our build. I
like. So another thing too,this why this matters and why I'm so
excited, is if you have youknow, four or five running if he's
your RB four or RB five orsomething like that, or RB four behind
a stable of backs, even ifhe hits, like he doesn't give you

(45:29):
the value to your team that hedoes to our team because if he hits,
because we need him to hit,and when he hits, these two
or RB one to go along withour stud receivers and our stud tight end,
like that's what we need. Andyou know, and if one of
those guys hits, if they bothhit jack, we're you know, you're

(45:49):
coming in first or second place againand I'm riding your coattails all the way
to the sid Okay. No,it's it's an exciting build and one where
I think we're leaning into uncertainty.And you know there's not a not great
prizes for you know, right,So that's right, you know, lean
in, That's right. No,I absolutely love love that turn. Now,

(46:14):
could the Bucks go sign a runningback? Could they get Dalvin Cook?
What? Sure? You know?I just I just love the upside
of these these guys. You couldtell them. I'm just giddy about that
turn. I knew, I knewI was gonna love that turn once I
pulled up the thing and saw that. But so then of course we say
quarterback, and this is that they'llgo fine Burrow, Herbert Fields. I

(46:35):
would have been good with any ofthem there, especially Herbert. I'm big
on Herbert this year. But withoutwe didn't. Again, it's not best
ball, so stacking isn't near asimportant, but we didn't really have any
stacking pieces there with any of thoseguys, so I wasn't really pushed into
doing it. And with those runningbacks that were available, I really liked
doing that. And then there wasGoddard and Pits in this round. So

(46:55):
it's a big quarterback tight end roundhere. Anything stand out to you,
no, I mean, I getit. I understand the logic behind their
picks. I think that's a greata great price on Burrow. I think
the calf injury is probably minor.Also a great price on Herbert as well.
And you know, it's one ofthose when the seal breaks, everybody's

(47:19):
holding off, holding off, holdingoff, and then as soon as one
of them goes same thing, bothquarterback end tight end, you know,
the now we've got Waller, Kittle, got Heart and Pitts kind of the
last ostensibly, you know, couldbe elite tight ends off the board.
And same thing with the quarterbacks aswell. And we like seeing that too,
because we knew weren't going to getthe quarterbacks, so we want to

(47:40):
see those guys go off the board. You know, we knew we already
had a tight end, so wewant to see those guys go off the
board that we want them to pushsome players back to us, which I
think is what is going to happenagain here, so so perfect, really
really nice. Yeah that Quentin Johnstonpick Man, I mane, you got
trauma. Well he got us onKelsey, not that we were like targeting

(48:04):
Kelsey, but we were taking atwelve he has and Kelsey Watson, Edison
Johnston. I mean he guys onevery single one. Man, I got
our number. Okay, let's seehere Jack Man. And this is what
Jacoby Myers wide receiver fifty one inthe eighth round, competing with RB thirty
one with on the very next pick. It's it's wide receiver season here at

(48:30):
the FWC Rashott Bateman, Nico Collins, What do you want Nico Collins?
I really, who's a guy thatI would have taken on this next turn
here? I like Nico. Ilike his opportunities, His numbers and analytics
are showing he's improving year one,year two. For what you what you
want to see see a guy you'vebeen targeting Jack You know, I don't
go out of my wife for him, but if he if he's there and

(48:52):
he fits the build, I'm happyto take him. You know, he's
he's kind of the more traditional Xreceiver. I think with a new you
know, there's always uncertainty dealing withrookie quarterbacks. But but that being said,
I'd rather have a rookie like c. J. Straut over you know,
another year of Davis Mills. SoI think that's an upgrade there.
And the Houston offensive line is reallyunderrated. They've they've really done a great

(49:15):
job of putting together with some solidtackles. I think they're going to give
them plenty of time and for thefirst time in a while, have a
good assortment of weapons that you know, aren't going to be necessarily lead leading,
but it's not going to be oneplayer leading the whole way. So
I think, you know, widereceiver forty nine, I think it's a

(49:36):
fine pick. Yeah, No,I I completely agree. And this is
listen, this is your this isyour wheelhouse here. Uh, you're the
you're the you're you're the receiver.Man. We're coming up on the clock
soon er, so I'm gonna takea little peak at the positions. Yes,
I still like, still like someof some of the quarterbacks out there,

(49:58):
still like some of the other otherother players. It's hard to talk
here, check man. It's justI'm so happy we decided to take those
receivers earlier because it is just adead zone. It's what happens here.
You know. It's definitely part ofplaying because it goes quick and since you
can go up to start up tofive, and it's a position that's just

(50:22):
really difficult to to recover from.On the waiver wire, where you know
running back you can make it work. You cart some later and you know
a quarterback to make it work ifyou have to. But if if you're
behind on wide receiver mid season,it's very hard to come back. Man.
It's so weird from me to seecertain players still on the board here.

(50:44):
Uh in non tight end premium.I'm not going to mention names,
but it's like, wow, herewe are. Yeah, I I left
those guys you put in the chatthere and our and our private chet guys.
Don't go, don't don't don't getexcited excited. It's just a bunch
of gifts. We're not actually talkingstrate, just gifts and memes. Well,

(51:07):
there goes one of the guys toshots. Yeah, yeah, I'm
glad. I'm glad we pushed thequarterback. There's a lot, there's plenty
left, plenty left because you canalways play the quarterback. You can always
play the matchup game too, youknow what I mean. You can take
take a couple and whoever's got thebest matchup you start them, you know.

(51:28):
Yeah, and especially with right nextto us a couple going, you
know, that gives us a littlebit of certainty that somebody, you know,
quarterbacks more likely to fall to usnow in the in the term.
Yeah, they're they're the guy whowere thinking about sarboning for sure, all
right, were we are. There'snobody that I love here, which makes

(51:51):
it better because now I can't Ican't be sniped because there's nobody that I
absolutely love here. You're on theclock. Okay, we are on deck.
Romeo Doubs, Okay, what areyou thinking? I like pe Rhyan.
I think he matches up with whatwe need in terms of you know,

(52:12):
breeze hall starting slow. Yeah,I think it's a good fit for
us. We actually discussed that goinginto target that Yeah, do it take
take our time, Yeah, I'llkeep him up and then uh, let's
talk on the second one. Dowe want to push another receiver or do
we want to go quarterback? Mind? Well, I didn't necessarily. I

(52:34):
mean, I like, if ifI was ahead to take a receiver here,
I would I would go probably Mooneyor Gallop. I think although Lazard
we'd have we have all those jetsand stuff. Yeah, I think I'm
gonna I'd prefer maybe to to getsome upside receivers a little bit later on.

(52:55):
I don't think there's personally compared tothose two, but certainly open.
Okay, so you're thinking QB arerunning back, I'm looking running back at
the moment. I mean, Jamalfits the bill that we were looking at
early season. I'm looking at thehold on a minute, I don't know,

(53:20):
a minute, there we go.We could go with a late you
know, a late maybe a Idon't know. Brian Robinson just doesn't do
it for me. But I thinkDamian Harris for all the reasons that you
don't necessarily you're not as high onJames Cook. Okay, yeah, let's
do it. Yeah, I like. I like Damian Harris. And again,
if there's an injury to somebody,Harris could be the stud there so

(53:45):
and I could just see what isit week seventeen. We're on the money
weeks they play the Patriots. Icould see in the Revenge game three yea,
the snow I love that take.If you just said that take three
rounds ag I would have taken.Then. I love pounding the Patriots into
oblivion. Yeah, I'm speaking yourlanguage, I know for sure. So

(54:09):
is this uh, let's talk,well, let's talk build. Is this
an odd build for you? Isthis? I mean to be through what
are we through here? Ten rounds? To have the same amount of running
more running backs than receivers, isthat odd for you? Yeah? Yeah,
I think I probably would have pressedon with myde receivers. Left to

(54:30):
my own devices. Uh might nothave done Bruce Hall, which you know,
I'm kind of happy that I did. Well. Yeah, there's a
lot of there's a lot of youknow, I put them not quite dart
throws, they're not the late rounddart throws, but but the uh certainly

(54:52):
like Browns eleven, twelve, thirteenreceivers that that I just have a a
thing for. I think there's somereally interesting targets. So I don't feel
the need especially because the four widereceivers that we have. I am really
confident in yes, so I don'tfeel the need to rush out and get

(55:14):
a wide receiver just to add tothe room. And listen, that makes
me. That's why I like draftingwith you, Jack, is that gave
me confidence, Like because I didn'tknow what route you wanted to go and
you've done. That's great drafting witha guy like you who does as many
or more drafts than I do,and I do a ton to see your
confidence and like, no, wecan wait on receiver. I don't like
the perfect wonderful Let's go running backsand then well, let you kind of

(55:37):
hit these late round receivers that you'rethat you're into. And the cool thing
about this build too, is weare planning on being elite at receiver,
and now we have a really goodchance at being elite at running back too
and tight end because we've got somany running backs you know what I mean,

(55:57):
that have upside and all that stuff, and we've got we took used
draft capital on receivers that we thinkare going to be great. So we
took a top three tight end.Like really, this team could could end
up being really really good based onthe way just on the macro build of
it, no, And I thinkyou know, once you take Breee Hall

(56:22):
and then once we're deciding to waiton quarterback, kind of the two weaknesses
of the team are who's going tobe your quarterback? And what if Breeze
takes longer than you hope? SoI think of those things, I feel
confident addressing the first question a littlebit later on at lower cost, And

(56:43):
so I'd just much rather build outsome redundancy for running back so that you
know, worst case scenario if Breesetakes longer, then we're hoping, but
we still get that second half push, we're able to survive and keep moving
to actually enjoy it. Because there'snothing worse than when you have the team
that has like all of the secondhalf of the season heroes, but you're

(57:06):
so far behind that you can't actuallyenjoy any of it. So and listen,
whenever your weakness of your team iswho's gonna play quarterback, that's the
weakness you want to have. Like, if you're gonna have a weakness,
that's it, that's the one youwant to add. Again, you don't
want that weakness like Week five,like my god, I've got are all
hurt and I can't find anybody decent. But in around ten, like again

(57:27):
we are at QB nine Jack,Like, we'll gonna be fine. We're
gonna be fine. None of theseguys are taking it's not bestball. All
these teams will have them on theway back. Are not taking another one,
right, So like we have twoteams to where we're worry about really
think to take in a QB.So maybe someone else wants to stick it
to us and take another one.But no, I really like the way

(57:49):
that this has turned out so far. Yeah, no, awesome it.
I think it comes back to somethingyou said. I think it was red
verse blue three just about the youknow, just make it makes sense.
And I think that's from my perspective, that's one of the most important rules
and roster construction. You know,you can have some weird builds, you

(58:12):
can get a little crazy and dosomething unconventional, but but making it so
that you're your team is internally consistent. You're not betting against yourself or hedging
when you shouldn't be, but thatthere's a you're kind of telling a story
end to end rather than just makinga pick round around. Yep. Yeah,
Scott Lawrence in the chat asks Teamseven followed the same template as us

(58:35):
pretty much are very very similar.We followed team seven. Yeah, that's
right, we cat teen seven.What do we think about their team?
And I said after the Acre's pick, not that I love Acres, right,
I love Team seven. I lovewhat they were able to do.
They got that. They went elitequarterback. We went elite tight end.
They haven't taken a tight end.We haven't taken a quarterback. So we
did something very similar there, andthen they went Acres Connor pen Robinson.

(59:00):
I love their build. I likeour stable of backs way better than their
stable of backs, only even ifyou take briefs haul out of it.
Like the upside of White and Swift, those two combined are I like those
better than any running backs that theyhave, Like I would take our first

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three running backs over their number onerunning back. So but then they can
argue to that they like Elijah more. You know, I just like the
upside again. Roddy White right awayhas top ten running back upside with the
pass catching tough. I don't wantto say top five, but he's got
with the pass catching, he's gothuge upside. Same as Swift. I
love Elijah Moore I'm just babbling on. I love their team. I just

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like our stable of backs better.Yeah, I mean it's just a different
I mean, they're making it makessense. They're reallocating plorities a little differently.
They're starting five wide and those thosefive are fantastic. You know where
we chose to go with, youknow, a tight end advantage, especially
when one team is taking two elitetight ends, which kind of magnifies the
impact of tight end. Uh.They went with who I think is the

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QB one and and you know that'stheir elite angle that they're going to edge
us out with. So again they'remaking it makes sense. And as I
say that, teams won and twotake their quarterbacks. The last teams take
pride in that. Yeah, everyonein this room takes pride and taking the
last quarterback and that's us. Sotake that. Okay, chicken, we

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win if we win nothing else.We won the chicken and we were in
the game of chicken. That's amoral victory for sure. What do you
think of Richardson? By the way, I love him in a format like
this. I love him to beable to just hey, you don't have

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to stack him with anyway. Withanybody you're gonna worry about that you're taking.
He's got that massive rushing upside stikein there as the opfite of their
coach officive coordinator. Like, Ireally like taking him, you know,
Snake, it won't be the onlyquarterback he takes, I'm sure, and
and so he'll take you know,another one maybe hopefully, but we'll see,

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we'll see. I love it inthis in this format, I think
it's a great great picks as asQB eleven. Yeah, yeah, especially
you know the seasonal redraft instead ofBest Ball, where where you know,
taking his zero is the end ofthe world in best Ball, whereas uh,
you know, the risk part ofAnthony Richardson, either the slow start

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or he's not starting games right away, can can be pretty easily taken care
of, either through a second quarterbackor the waiver wire. So I think
you can cap your downside and stillget that upside in the eleventh round,
right exactly exactly. So yeah,I mean we'll see here, let me
let me take take a pick atthe draft room here or anything. Out

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of the word there there goes thosezard rephaceiver sixty Oh man, h I
like I like that pick. Iwould have liked him coming back to all
right, okay, got some guyshere run again. Still some quarterbacks I

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like, probably not look at it. I hate tight end here, which
is beautiful. It's a good placeto be. Yeah, that's right,
because we because we have one okay, perfect, That's what I wanted to
see, all right. The guyI was talking about earlier than the tight
ends and I used to see inthere was like Evan Ingram there in the

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sticking tenth round, Like it's prettypretty interesting. M hm. I do
like Zay Jones, who just wentat eleven eight, I think being overlooked
and you know, still gonna beout there in three wide receiver sets on
a great offense and seems to begood reports still coming out of training camp

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that he's still very involved and especiallyif there's some time for Ridley to you
know, get back into it,although you know, based on the hype
videos it seems like he's very muchback into it. But I think he's
still gonna play a part in thisoffense and he's kind of the forgotten man.
Well for everyone else's sake, Ihope he doesn't. Like we could

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talk about it after after our pick, because I want to see who you
think the odd man out is.But real quick, let everyone know there's
some other drafts tonight too. Wehave seven to go in the fifty dollars
starter tonight. Everyone's feeling the itchand you can choose your draft spot.
Apparently, according to Scott in thein the chat here, it also six
to go in the ten thirty threefifty Midstakes Circle Las Vegas draft. So

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six to go in that one.That's always a fun one. All right,
we are on deck here, KirkCousins feeling. I gotta be honest
with you. A chain I didn'teven see. I don't know if we
would have taken a chain, butI didn't even see him. I was
looking for him the last time we'reon the clock, and I didn't see

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him. I would have pushed forhim. Uh, but again I'll end
up with enough, With enough achain, I probably would have taken him
over date Damien Harris. But okay, we're on DAK. We've been sniped
eight thousand times. Let's make itone more. Let's make it eight thousand

(01:04:29):
and one. Okay here, Oh, they get news from Glenn Carrot says
you have to search the clock fora chain in the right. Tyler Tyler

(01:04:51):
L j went quarterbacks. We've hadDak and Daniel Jones like one of those.
I like Dak because you've got cooks. I also love I also love
Gino, but I would rank Jonesthird out of them. Something I have.

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What do you think I would?I would go, do you like
pick one Gino or Deck? Iswhat I would I would do with this
team, Let's do Dak. Okay, uh, like you said, we
got cooks. We got cooks.It's an easy tiebreaker. What's the other
one? So we could double upand go Gallop? I like we could

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go somebody like DJ Chark or JonathanMingo. Interesting wind receivers. Are you
okay with with with receiver? Here? Are there guys that you like in
this and in this range? Ilike Gallup just fine, I think do
it? Yeah? I like Gallup, especially with this build. I think

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I know this is going to soundsilly, but like I think it's a
really nice like handcuff, Like ifone of them goes down, the other
one that is I think is goingto smash, you know, Like I
feel like the thing that's holding,Like if Gallup didn't exist, or if
Cooks didn't exist, I think peoplewould be much higher on the other receiver,
you know, And so if oneof them goes down, I think

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the other one sees it gets aton more to targets. What do you
think about them about that? Yeah? And I think there's also the possibility
of the you know, an additionalyear off the ACL there. There's some
oh yeah, good reports coming backfrom Gallup that he feels, you know,
he didn't really feel confident in hisknee through most of the last season.
So uh, you know, hecould be a nice bounce back candidate

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in that way. And you know, in the the school of you know,
just make it makes sense. We'realready committed with Cooks, We're already
committed with Prescott's. Yeah, Ithink it just makes sense to uh,
to bolt you down on the bedand God forbid ceedee lamb goes down?

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Now what now? Then now it'swithin its wheels up. There's that's the
way you gotta look like, especiallywhen you're here in the twelfth round.
I mean, yeah, the playerthe micro take two months ago, he
said he felt better than he hadfelt two years prior with the injury.
I know, players always say that, but you know, he just wasn't.

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He wasn't right last year. Hefeels great, he feels healthy.
This offense. I think there's alot of weapons there, and I think
this passing game, you know,a lot of a lot of all the
things you said about Cooks apply toGallop, and so I think it's I
think it's I think it's a greatpick. That was the receiver that I
was hoping that you would say sowell, and you know, daki QB

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thirteen. I think that's a verythat's fine. That's right. Hard to
be disappointed too much of that,you know. I think even if we're
seeing a floor at a deck,I don't think it's going too much lower.
So yeah, so, oh man, So I like this team so

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far. So I'll go through realquick. Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams first
two picks, double type receiver,A lot up a Breece Hall, Deebo,
Samuel T. J. Hockinson,Brandon Cooks, only one green,
only one running back in there.But then we follow up a white Swift,
p Ryan Harris Prescott Gallop, andso yeah, no, I liked

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It's all. It's all making senseright now. Yeah, no, love
it, love it, Love it. Dull Sitch goes is Toning eleven,
followed by Zamir White Devin Singletary.Everyone just is this is this the spot
jack where you just said, kindof start taking your your guys around.
You know, you kind of gottabuild your you know it, still need

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to get a quarterback, a tightend. You still need to have like
some roster construction stuff. But youknow, once you've got that roster constructed,
it's like, yo, let mejust let me go get my guys
here. Yeah, I mean theopportunity cost at this point, like you
know, there's certainly debates about ADPand how closely you need to follow,
but when we're talking about a twelfthround pick and reaching for somebody in the

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twelfth round that should be in thefourteenth round or something like, at the
end of the day, if you'reright, you're right, and you know,
if you take them around earlier thanyou should have, the opportunity costs
is so small with these later roundsthat it's just better to go after who
you have convictions in, because youknow the number of players at this point

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that you're gonna have strong conviction in. The list is getting pretty small right
right, and there goes Team seven. They keep keep on keeping on.
They heard us talk your backfield isn'tas good as ours, so they went
ahead and took two more tank bigsbyKender Miller. Unlessen we joke I joke
about Team seven about that, Likewe're not talking about the owners tonight.

(01:10:03):
Uh. But I love I loveTeam seven. Who's drafting this, this
team so very very I mean,this whole room is sharp, so sharp,
and so but I this person knowsexactly what they're what they're doing.
So really cool to see, tosee this build. It takes some guts
too. It takes it takes gutsto be able to go five straight receivers

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and then six straight running backs.You know a lot of people don't don't
have it in them to do it, all right, So we're coming up
here on at the turn here,the twelve thirteen turn Jack. Any other
teams that kind of stand out toyou as far as roster construction maybe or
as far as again, there's alot of like purpose in these drafts,

(01:10:48):
right, Like you see, youknow, team Team one goes receiver and
then goes double taps running back andthen goes five street receivers. I don't
think that was an accident. Youget a team Team three, four straight
running back, four straight receivers tostart the draft. I don't think that
was an accident. We talked aboutour build, talked about Team sevens build
a lot of like, hey,this is the first main event of the

(01:11:10):
year. I'm gonna go in witha plan and a purpose and I'm gonna
execute it. Yeah, I'm lookingat three and four like you're saying,
you know, three starting out withfour wide receivers, great for this format.
They're picking up, you know,and then gave Davis at the fifth
at wide receiver forty one, whichI think is a great bounce back where
you know, he's getting hyped upso much last year to the third round

(01:11:34):
certainly way too rich. But atthe same time we're talking now you know
the wide receiver two for Buffalo atwide receiver forty one, So I think
a bit of an over correction andthey took advantage of that. They're also
stacking Trevor Lawrence with Calvin Ridley,so you have a bit of correlation there.
And then you know, similarly,Team four you're taking advance full advantage

(01:11:58):
of having CMC as you're running backby just being able to pivot away,
look at wide receivers, look atyou know, elite quarterback, and then
even stacking that elite quarterback with skyMoore. So again, like you're saying,
these are clearly drafters that come innot necessarily with a preordained plan as

(01:12:18):
to how exactly it's going to godown, but a very clear and concise
view in their mind of how theywant to build out a roster, and
then they stick to that plan.And if you know, there's always the
attractive player that falls via ADP,that kind of want makes you want to
deviate from the plan in order toget that great deal, and then a

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lot of times you end up acouple rounds later regretting the decision because now
you're you're catching up. You mighthave won that one round, but then
your team's suffering. So these aredisciplined drafters who know exactly what they need
to get at various stages in thedraft. Yep, yep, And you
mentioned Team four Team four miles standersis RB twenty one. That's actually one

(01:13:03):
of Ian Ritchie. You guys haveheard her to that guy one of his
bust players This season, Ian wasa stud fantasy football player, kind of
had to give it up to owna little thing called the f WC here
and uh and so. But oneof his bus guys is Miles Sanders,
so we'll see. I don't havea lot of Miles Sanders, but Team

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Team four is into him at RBtwenty one. And then unfortunately, one
of Ian's breakouts was a guy namedChristian Watson, who I'm done talking about.
I'm done talking about how we gotsniped at Christian Watson at the three
four turn. But I trust Ian'sjudgment. He knows what he's talking about.
Christian Watson is gonna be the man. I'm gonna have to to to

(01:13:45):
double down on him another other otherdrafts just to make up for this one.
But we are coming up here onthe clock. I feel like on
your deathbed, you know, talkingto your kids and grandkids and gonna be
like, my life was great untilI got sniped. Christian wife the worst
live pick team too. We talkedabout Anthony Richardson, I love Geno.

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Smith followed up with gas But that'sa great That's exactly what I'm talking About's
a great combination you could have flippedit around, right. You could have
gone Gino at QB eleven for meat least, and then Richardson at QB
fourteen and it would have made thesame same amount of sense. So I
really liked those pick that pick forteen for Team two, Talton Kincaid,
another Buffalo boy off the off theboard in the middle of the thirteenth round

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and we are coming up here,so I'm gonna take a peak at the
board here and take a peek atthe private chat. Yeah, oh yeah,
that's right. Sorry, Oh you'regood. Uh yeah, yes,
I like the second name better yea. And I'm okay with the two time

(01:14:54):
audible yeah, two times? Yeah, yeah, the two time I A
love that. Yeah, I likeeverything you that you just said. Perfect.
I was just looking at that atthat first name. Yeah, we
were perfect. Okay, sweet,So I guess I can look away from
this now I can go back tothe draft. Perfect. Man. I'm

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excited first Maine in the year,and I love I love I love the
team because listen, I'll be honestwith you, a lot of times you
come out of these especially with allthese guys we got sniped a couple of
times. I could love it evenmore if we didn't get sniped. But
I really like the way this hasfolded out so far for us. Yeah,
yeah, you know, it's certainlypart of the toolbox of main event,

(01:15:42):
high stakes drafting is being able todo those pivots and you know,
not necessarily getting everything you wanted,but being able to turn it around and
make it make sense. And Iwant to talk about that after we make
our two picture. I want totalk about kind of the we're talking about
team build and having a plan comingin team fours. If we're just a
way to snipe us or it's ourteam eleven, how how can we snipe
them? And they're running again,they running run at a time. I'm

(01:16:05):
sure they have somebody in the queue. Let's see, you're on the clock.
Perfect. We didn't want the bombParis Campbell, Okay, okay,
all right, so what are wethinking? I'm thinking Jaden Reid or I
love that, Love that that hewas a guy who was looking at read
a little upside rookie receiver. Yeah, you know, Green Bay is a
bit of a black box, andand you know, his closest comp obviously

(01:16:29):
high upside scenario, but he's kindof a step on digs like player and
his physicality, and it looks likethey're doing you know, a lot of
designed plays for him out of thebackfield, so that's interesting to get him
moving. And I don't think Dobbsis not unmovable, So yeah, right
right, And then for second pick, uh, you're interested in double tappening,

(01:16:50):
do let's do it? Yea,yep, let's do Daniel Jones,
you know, came back to us, and I think we shore up the
love the obvious weakness to our teamin quarterback. So if things don't go
necessarily as planned for Dak, we'vegot options where we can just play play
the weeks and the man play theweeks, play the weeks exactly. So

(01:17:11):
I really like I really like that. Again, when you wait, I
would never suggest taking know how tosay this, I would never suggest taking
like two of the top like twelveor thirteen quarterbacks unless you are taking number
twelve and thirty thirteen, you knowwhat I mean some something like that,
because you know, yes, youhave Josh Allen. And I would never
say don't take Josh Allen because Ilove him, but you've spent a fifth

(01:17:32):
round pick on him or a fourthround pick, I've got Prescott, I've
got Jones. I'm gonna play theweeks and hopefully stay within a couple of
points of you and your team everysingle week. So No, I liked
that for sure. I wanted totalk a little bit more about the strategy
of like teams coming with with withwith a plan that I know I've drafted
with or No, probably ten ofthese guys. I probably drafted with everyone.

(01:17:55):
I just don't know every every everyone. People in here have been drafting
for weeks or months or years orwhatever, except with the exception of Chad
chat Chad's the only one, buthe's he's the best of us. But
people come in that You need tohave the ability to change the strategy and
know how to do it. So, for example, like playing playing poker,

(01:18:19):
the best poker players have played thousandsor tens of thousands of hands so
that they know when a certain boardflops, the texture of the board,
what they have, who they're playing. Okay, I gotta I gotta switch
my gear on this hand, orI gotta switch my gear for this table
that I'm playing against. That onlycomes with experience, only comes with draft.
You can't go in to drafts,I'm gonna go zero RB because if

(01:18:42):
you go into daveryone zero RB andthat doesn't fall that way, now you're
trying to transition to another strategy thatyou don't know how to how to do,
you're gonna screw it up or viceversa or whatever. You know,
Jack and I have done enough ofthese drafts already this season, not made
events, but midstakes drafts. I'mprobably twelve midstakes drafts deep in this.
I've done the super flex of it, all the other stuff like we we

(01:19:04):
have done. We've done this before, and all these guys have done this
before. So to be able topull off, you just need to go
to a draft with a you know, a thought process of what you want
to do. But then when whenthe table's turned, you got to be
able to say, oh man,I'm gonna go from a zero to a
hero RB, or I'm gonna gofrom a hero RB. Maybe I go
with one running back early and thenoh my god, my RB four fell

(01:19:24):
to RB nine. All right,well, I guess I'm going to I
guess I'm gonna go hi the RBhere. You got to be able to
do that, and that only comeswith the experience. Of drafting well.
And we talk about the the importanceof being able to be comfortable with being
uncomfortable, and you know, partof that is maybe like a character trait
or something like that, but alsopart of it has to do with,

(01:19:45):
like you're talking about, knowledge ofthe texture of the board. Like for
example, we knew that we couldyou know, starting in the seventh we
could pull up on wide receiver becausewe know coming on later that there are
going to be opportunities for that lateron, you're making that decision without truly
knowing what you know, the laterrounds are going to look like you're making

(01:20:05):
those decisions blind and you're not goingto be able to have that confidence to
make that pivot. Whether it paysoff or not, you know, we'll
certainly have to see. But thepoint of making a roster that is internally
consistent and highlights your strengths, uh, you know, taking the players that
we have that you know, gettingthe full value of drafting these wide receivers

(01:20:28):
and putting this early investment in.Part of that is being able to wait
and you know, address other needsbecause you've you've put that draft capital in
early. Yeah, and you knowwhat else helps stuff like this, the
visual ADP board, you know,I mean, these are all the players,
the ADPs that they're available. Thelight ones are the ones that we
picked. So even if you're like, hey, listen, I haven't done

(01:20:49):
as many as Jack, I haven'tdone as many as Adam. I don't
know who's going to be available.Man, you get that premium subscription,
you get the visual ADP board,you're in the draft room. For you,
it tells you, my god,this guy's this guy's normally goes four
rounds before that. Oh my god. Daniel Jones, you know, he
goes normally three rounds ahead of this. So it's stuff like this that's that

(01:21:10):
is cool. For other people,it's I'll be honest with you, I
don't want to see this in thedraft room. I don't this is gonna
help people, this is gonna helpI don't want people being helped. You
don't have to be a complete degenerateto have that sort of board texture.
You can use the tools, yes, like like oh like Scott, don't
take this out of here. Idon't want to see that thing in there.

(01:21:32):
But it's super helpful for for everybody. All the tools, the ADP
list ADP board the stuff that weshowed earlier. So though I think it's
super super helpful for everybody, butyeah, you gotta be. But even
that, even showing you the ADPsof players doesn't help you with the building,
the roster construction, the texture yourteam, all that type of the

(01:21:53):
type of stuff. So yeah,and I like, I like the way
that that we could be able todo that and work together and do that.
Also, you were getting into thelate rounds here. We do not
have to draft kickers and defenses.Yes, correct, Okay, I am
perfectly okay with you doing what wetalked about in that text earlier. If

(01:22:16):
you want to pull that off,great, if not, whatever, I'm
flexible with that. If that's Itrust you on that. And so yeah,
here we are getting into the laterounds here. Another cool thing about
the WCS. You don't need totake defensive kicker. You need to have
one by week one when you setset your lineup. But there's new this
year. There's two waiver runs thisyear for the FFWC. I think it's

(01:22:38):
Tuesday Saturday, is that right,Jack? Yeah, that sounds right.
I think Okay, I think it'sTuesday. There'll be a waiver run and
then Saturday before, so you justgot to make sure you had your kicker
in your defense by Sunday when youset your lineup for those for those games.
So there's there's certainly a strategy tothat too, you know, taking
those additional two lottery tickets to seehow training camp plays out. Uh,

(01:23:00):
you know there's running backs or widereceivers over a defense or kicker. Yes,
and then you can see here inthe fifteenth round, both the one
and the three and as well asuh, where is that the sixth spot
in the fourteenth round, taking JustinRoss, Richie James, Marquess, Valdez

(01:23:21):
Scantling, which good, good,good picks on their own, but given
our unique format, the ability tohave a sneak peek, Uh, those
are three guys that you can takeadvantage of a uncertainty, especially MBS.
You could easily see him having abig long touchdown yea against the Lions,
and now you get to take apeek and maybe use that as a flex

(01:23:44):
exactly. No, that's that's all. That's all great stuff, and that's
all tie breaking stuff here down inthe end, you know, like,
oh, let mean between this guyor that guy, you know, let
me take Let me take the shotat the guy who can get a free
peek at you know exactly, andthat's so valuable. Again I've said this
before, I want someone than me. Maybe this has to be you,
Jack, because you're definitely smarter thanto make it, to make what is

(01:24:04):
the percentage of of how much betteris a player that we get to look
at their week one we get weget a crystal ball and see what they
get to do so or not onlythat, we get a crystal ball and
see, like if there's an injury, like the school thing about taking the
other the running backs, if there'san injury to the starter, Oh my
gosh, now the guy flies upup up the board. So I remember

(01:24:27):
the year Kareem Hunt Man, KareemHunt had that game on Monday night against
was in New England for the forthe Chiefs, and he put up like
fifty Fantasy points. He went fromwho's it was it? Where where was
the starter? Where it gets hurtin the sprinter where he's hurted the preseason.
So Hunt moves up from like theseventh round to the third round and

(01:24:47):
then he has that game and hegoes in the top three in every draft.
In Vegas and he ended up beingwhat RB one, RB two on
this on the season, So thatwas so cool to see. But anyways,
I'm getting real dorky. No,this is the good stuff. Such
a dork so tight ends start goingoff here, Dalton Schultz, Johnson,

(01:25:09):
Everett, Pierre Strong's the pick heretrue the Hubbard. We're up here in
a couple of picks. Do youhave I got we're almost on that.
On the clock. Do you haveanyone that you are you don't have to
got a couple a couple Check thechat. Oh, the chat. There's
always I'm trying to there's all somany chats. Fine, perfect, I

(01:25:30):
don't think there's anyone you could putin the chat right over, Like,
that's the stupidest thing I've ever Well, we've reached that point in the draft.
Yeah, all right, that's right, cool, all right, so
we're we're on the clock. I'mfine with all that. Just talk to
the people about who we're picking andwhy, why why we're picking them?
Sure, so first pick ty Chandler. Uh, you know, we did

(01:25:54):
just say that maybe the hate againstMadison is a little over overdone, but
he has certainly not proven himself overthe course of a season. You know,
it's been spot starts throughout Ty Chandleror a very athletic, fast explosive
back, which is not necessarily somethingMadison has, and that offense and you

(01:26:15):
know, kind of the McVay systemcoming over certainly valued speed and in the
fifteenth round the potential RB two.Great pick there in my opinion, and
then let's see second pick Michael Wilsonfrom Arizona wide receiver, another one of
those later upside wide receivers to helpkind of fill out that spot for us.

(01:26:41):
It's been nothing but a steady drumbeatof just positive praise for him.
There's a bit of a vacuum inthat team, you know, behind Marky's
Brown, and you know Marky's Brownis struggled with injuries himself. And I
think the most important thing is thathe's just a different type of receiver.
But you know, he's like sixtwo two ten somewhere in that that area

(01:27:01):
two fifteen, whereas you know acharacter like, yeah, you're compared to
like ron Dale Moore or Greg Dortsfor a lot of these smaller guys,
he offers like that perimeter size.Yeah, I think he's gonna be out
there in three wide receiver sets andcould be out there in two wide receiver
sets. Yeah, no, Ilike. I like both of those.
And again most of the time,like you look at some of the even

(01:27:25):
the rosters from the main event champsof this site and another site a lot
like it was a main event championmaybe two years ago that cut every player
they drafted between rounds eleven and twentyoutside of the kicker. Like, it's
just these are guys that we areprobably going to cut, and you need
to draft that way. You don'twant to draft on some roster clogger,
right, You want to draft onguys like, hey, I want to

(01:27:46):
shoot like a Michael Wilson. Ifhe hits, great, If not,
I'm moving on. I'm moving onto the next thing I'm using. I'm
using this this spout to fill inbye weeks all that type of stuff.
Why why if you if you havea season, why Chandler over McBride,
You know, Yeah, I thinkit's it's not quite a coin flip,

(01:28:11):
but it's close. But I giveminor tiebreakers to the fact that he's a
second year back in the system andit's not necessarily the the easiest straightforward system,
so maybe there's a little bit moreunderstanding and familiarity with the team.
They both don't have a ton ofdraft capital. But but you know,
McBride I think was like the seventhround picks, so you did not necessarily

(01:28:36):
a lot of investment there. Andyeah, just sort of at this point,
there's enough smart people that I listenedto that say, ty Chandler,
that's enough tiebreakers for me. Yeah, that's right, that's right. So
again every yeah, it's and ifit's and if it's McBride, if medicine

(01:29:00):
doesn't get hurt, whatever, ifhe if he's the guy with then we
just we move on from tight Chanor maybe we hold like whatever. It's
it's it's this type of stuff thatyou want to be shooting for the moon
on these last gop It's not bestbest ball is different bestball. You want
a floor here, You want someguys that you can get every week because
you don't want you know, ifyou have an injury and then three zeros
in your lineup from guys at theend here that stink you're you're in big,

(01:29:23):
big trouble. But here you getzeros, you just cut them the
next week and move We'll move on. So so, yeah, we see
some defenses going off the board herethe Eagles, the nine Ers, that
Cowboys flying afterwards. These people arenot waiting to pick these guys up in
waivers at all. They are theyare targeting them. Now. I gotta

(01:29:43):
be honest with you, I haven'twith this being my first main event live
in with with I know, mebeing able to lean on you tonight with
the defense kicker types is a situation. I haven't even really dug into defenses
at all. Normally I'm looking atplayoff schedule rules and stuff like that.
Playoff matchups for my defense is becausethey just don't to me, they just

(01:30:05):
don't make a difference enough, Likeif you draft a number one defense and
you get them, you know,off of waivers, or if you pick
them as though like the last defense, Okay, that can make a difference.
But like I don't know, defensefrom a year to year doesn't carry
over, and so I don't knowwhat what's your what's your view? N
D. Yeah, I think it'sit's actually pretty in line with my view

(01:30:29):
on a couple other positions, theonesie positions, just in terms of I
think you go elite or you justwait, and so there are a couple
of defenses that you're gonna know ye'regoing into the year that they're just stacked,
and you can take advantage of that. Other than that, I tend
to be more towards, you know, who's the week one opponent, because

(01:30:50):
that's at least a smaller prediction thatthere's fewer moving parts, and then if
it goes great, great, youknow, if not, I'm on the
week two, so it's a littleeasier ask for me. And yeah,
I don't know, that's how Iapproach it. At least that's a great
point. And that's kind of theway that I think you should do it.

(01:31:11):
Now. Now we haven't even discussedwill do this live in the show
or not. We haven't even discussedwho's managing this team. Because one of
the things that I think that I'vetaken to account is like I do like
for people, I do so manyleagues where you set your lineup. I'm
in. I'm a I'm a highstakes grinder, so like I'm not at

(01:31:34):
the Chad Shoulder level. I'm notyou know, with the big, big
time guys, but I do enough. I do enough. I probably do
like between forty and fifty k everyyear in high stakes leagues. So like
to me, and I only haveso much bandwidth. I've got I've got
a family and a job and kidssports, and like, I can't be
grinding waivers for kickers and defenses alongwith all the other players all year.

(01:31:57):
If you have one league, twoleagues, three leagues, ten, fine,
you can take your defense on weekone and then every week shuffle in
and out. That's the way youshould do it. Listen to what I'm
saying. That's the way you shoulddo it. But for guys like me,
you have fifty sixty lineups where you'resetting and waivers you're doing. It's
hard to grind kickers and defenses everyweek based on matchups. What do you

(01:32:21):
think, life act? Make yourkids do it? Child labor, you
know, bonding time I'm with dad. They can just specialize in DSTs.
That's their thing. That's right.Well, listen, they're already running my
they're already running my home leagues withall my buddies. So okay, I

(01:32:42):
don't have time. I don't havetime for the home leagues. Uh that
that's funny, that's funny, buthey, it's it's it's it's a great
idea. It's a great idea,all right. Corey Davis goes off the
board to it's a team seven.He's he's a guy that Ian Ritchie also
loves. Is is what is?He is a sleeper pick Corey Davis with

(01:33:02):
the Jets. Listen, I'm foundwith Corey Davis being being good being the
number two receiver there. As longas he's way behind Garrett Wilson, that's
about I think it's a it's agreat pick and a great sleeper just because
it falls into that bucket for me. Of like, we have very firm

(01:33:23):
ideas about how things are going toshake out in an uncertain situation, just
based on narrative, like Aaron Rodgerslikes his guys, it's gonna be lazard.
But what if it's not? Andnow you've gotten the wide receiver two
at pick one, eighty six,wide receiver eighty six. Overall, you
know, it's just one of thoseyou know, we think we know something

(01:33:44):
based off of very limited information.What if we don't? What if we
so great pick agreed? All right, so we are coming up here.
We've only got four picks left andour and our for us for our team
only have four picks left here,So let's take a peek at what we're
thinking. Anything in the chat forme, No, nothing in that not

(01:34:08):
not yeah, all right, lookinghere now there is but there we go
perfect, Yeah, I do thatand then and then we're gonna explain it
like that. Yeah, it's nicehaving our quarterbacks out out of the way.

(01:34:30):
Man, there's still some there's stillsome quarterbacks out there too. It's
it's it was nothing the way togo pushing it, you know, and
and look into I might have theway that it's gone. I might have
even pushed the number two QB alittle bit longer if head I am now
you know, But again you justdon't know. I mean we took QB
fifteen four rounds later there at QBseventeen, you know. So it's like

(01:34:54):
if we if we would have known, maybe we would have waited another another
turn. Yeah, but I've seenI've seen Daniel Jones at least the midstakes.
I don't know why all of asudden, but but he's started to
go from like his home in theround fourteen creeping up round twelve. So
I see him that we're on theboarder. So you go ahead and make

(01:35:15):
those picks. Well, I talkabout Russell Wilson went right in front of
us. He's a guy that Iwould have man if I would have known,
I would have waited a little bitlong. Asin Russell Wilson. I
know, Jody Smith, mister fulltime Fantasy himself was big. And Russell
Wilson's gonna just to be eleven.And Ian Ritchie also has him as his
comeback player. Russell Wilson comeback playerthis season. I can see it.

(01:35:36):
I could also see it not nothappening. So but again it's QB eighteen
and round seventeen. I mean that'spretty incredible. Okay, Chiefs Defense,
Chiefs kick or talk to the peopleabout this pick. Yep. So this
this is in particular taking advantage ofour unique rules here. So uh,

(01:35:58):
you know, the higher volatility,less predictable positions kicker and DST and so
the opportunity. First of all,I think Chiefs kicker is a you know,
a good pick. It's a highpowered offense that's going to score quite
a bit and you can count onthat. But you also get that that
free look. So now for mystarting lineup for Week one, we've got

(01:36:20):
our kicker and our defense. Wecan take a peek and if if the
Chiefs just are able to dominate theLions, then then we can take advantage
of that. If not, wecut it and we pick up another defense
before the weekend. So it's justa little you know, we talked about
this before, but you know,not only are we're playing for points on

(01:36:40):
a season long basis to you know, try to get into that tournament.
We're playing for points because our ourseason weekly average comes with us into that
tournament. But also you know,playing for the win that first week is
an all play. All you gotto do is get into the top half.
So you know, those little edgesfor week one can be the difference
between a win and the loss.And this is and that's so good,

(01:37:03):
Jack, like the stuff that likeas you're so locked into these styles,
you came in second last year,stuff like that. Right, So week
one, week two, in thelast week I think regular season week I
think are all play weeks and sojust you just gonna be in the top
six. And so to do somethinglike this where you can take the kicker
and the defense and get the freelook like you know, one of them,

(01:37:24):
if one of them goes off forfifteen to twenty. Sweet, we
keep it, we drop the otherone. Maybe we keep both, like
you get that free luck to getyou into the top six. I think
that's really really cool and really reallyyou know, little little kind of lifeac
little little draft hack for people whodon't know. Speaking of life, as
ched, Schroeder says, can Ihire your kids? Jed, You don't

(01:37:45):
have to hire my kids if youhire hire me. If you were to
hire me, I would never playFantasy again and I would just live off
of your winnings. You just hireme. You'll take a very reasonable cuts.
That's right, fine, and we'llcelebrate. I'll move to Omaha and
we'll have a great time. Allright, it'll be good. But now

(01:38:08):
Chad's great. I'll see him inVegas. I maybe I don't even if
Chad's going to Vegas. I'll seehim in Kentucky for the Kentucky Fantish Football
State championship every year. That's somuch fun. I love hanging out with
those guys over there. More more, more high stakes grinders. So there
goes Kyler Murray QB nineteen Ravens defense. We got what we have? Two

(01:38:30):
two kickers off the and these areteam kickers too, two team kickers off
the board. Ravens went number oneand Chiefs went number two. Now,
Jack, let me ask you ifif we didn't have these rules with taking
a kicker and being able to drophim after the game and all that,
would you be into taking one ofthe top kickers or would you would you
kind of fade it? No?No, in every other circumstance, I'm
just streaming kickers yea. And yeah, you know it's just of all the

(01:39:00):
positions, of all the things youcan invest not only draft capital in,
but like you were talking about,like mental investment. Yeah, the payoff
is just you know, at theend, it's crapshoot. So now this
is this is definitely more of aplay on the rules and less a draft
strategy of value and kicker absolutely love, even Justin Tucker. Sorry, even

(01:39:23):
Justin Tucker. All Right, SoI think I can say this because Team
eleven, I'm sorry, I'm looking. Team Team ten's got two tight ends.
Team eleven is three tight ends?Are we going naked tight end this
drift? Are we thinking there's someonethat worth that we're thinking about? You
know, I'm comfortable doing that.I've got there are a couple options,

(01:39:45):
yeah, specific names, but Ijust didn't know with our last two picks
what we were if we were leaningthat that that way at all. I'll
private I'll private chat you here,yep. Make sure I'll make sure it's

(01:40:09):
in the private chat too, andnot the whole I had to make sure
I got off the comments section.Okay, but listen, I mean we're
coming down to our last two pickshere. I gotta be honest, it
was. I've done lots of I'vedone lots of co owned drafts, and
it's it's hard. It's hard toco own a team. It's hard to

(01:40:30):
co own a team in a livedraft, and it's hard to cown a
team in a live draft while you'restreaming and you can't really talk about it.
So I gotta tell you from fromall the kind of handicaps we had,
I really like the way this turn. If you could kind of go
back and change anything from strategy,from team build, from actual player picks,

(01:40:51):
what what? What would you kindof go back and change if?
If anything, I think I agreewith you on the on the Harris pick
rather than hoping eight chain falls,I probably would have been an aggressive and
done eight chain Oph Harris. Butyou know that that single pick probably not

(01:41:15):
going to make or break the team. And that's why that macro, you
know, does does it make sense? Are you taking advantage of your advantages
and are you you know, limitingyour downside on your disadvantages? And I
think we did a good job ofthat. So given the quality of players
that we're playing against in this room, I think we at least held our
own for sure. I mean,this room couldn't have been tougher. And

(01:41:38):
again, well, we can maybeshare some of this stuff afterwards, or
like we promised the guys who wouldn'treally talk about the teams and the first
live stream and all that, butif they want to share this on Twitter,
we'll probably will share their board andall that type of stuff. This
this room is really difficult. SoI will say that love this team.
I mean, I've been gushing aboutit ever since we went twift and White,

(01:42:00):
and I've absolutely loved the way thatit's turned out. Prescott Gallop read
that old tier was great. IfI was by myself what I what I
probably would have done, whether itwas right or wrong, I probably would
have gone Bijon over Adams, butthen I probably would have regretted it with
Hall falling to me at the threefourths or maybe I would have passed on
Hall. Maybe maybe not, sothat would probably been the only and then

(01:42:20):
maybe if I would have honestly,this is the problem with streaming and doing
it all that, if I wouldhave seen a chain like you said over
Harris, I probably would have pushedfor that whatever not gonna make or break
us. And if I would haveknown the Daniel Jones thing, if we
if I would have known waiting threeor four, I mean, look,

(01:42:41):
even now there's only the three quarterbackssince we took to Daniel Jones, and
maybe would have pushed that another roundor two and been okay with Kyler,
Murray, Russell, Wilson and Rodgerswhatever or Jones you know. So,
but I mean that's all small stuff. I love the build, I love
the team. I think it's gonnabe unique, even like I don't know
how many of these you're doing,Jack, but like I think it'll be

(01:43:02):
unique to yourself too. In afact that like you probably won't have another
draft where you do five running backsin the first you know, nine or
ten rounds. No, this isyou know, that's kind of part of
the reason I wanted to do thisis I actually never co manage the team
with somebody else before. I'm usuallytoo stubborn. So I tricked him everyone,

(01:43:23):
I tricked him. I thought thiswould be a good time to,
you know, get off some ofthe players or get you know, exposure
to people that I haven't necessarily gottenup until this point. So yeah,
mix it up a bit, anduh yeah, this one wins it all.
What a great story they all have. The video will have the video
proof for years. What will beworse is if it if it would have

(01:43:45):
won, if it had Christian Watson, that will call on you for years.
Well you know what's even worse itI can't I can't speak too much
about it. But I did alive stream of another main event two years
and years ago on a different sitewhatever, where someone in that draft one
the entire Maine En main event,and we're in the live draft with them,

(01:44:08):
live drafting, and they it's theworst when the winner, the whole
thing comes out of Oh the worst, Oh my god, come on freaking
kidding me, Hunter Henry four fightend. Okay, hold on a minute,
I'm gonna take you go ahead andpick whoever. I'm gonna go off

(01:44:28):
here for for for a second,you go off. This is a live
stream. Just I'm like, okay, I'm getting comfortable here. It's at
the end. I'm gonna be vulnerableand we can talk about the tight end
position. You know. I hope, I hope this bites us. Whoever
we take here, I hope helpsus win it all. Because there's no
way that Team eleven took Hunter andevery because they needed him. There was

(01:44:50):
no way four tight ends in anon tight end premium. Oh my god,
knack it off, knock it off. So we took Dawson knocks the
tight end one on the Buffalo Bills. Fine, yep, So second or
last pick, we can pick upanother defense at this point. We can
do I like quarteruol Patterson, orwe can double tap and go like KISSICKI

(01:45:15):
let's go get Sicky, you knowwhat, Let's go get I like the
Pats to tight ends, and Ihope, and I'm doing this at a
fresh I hope get Sicky blows Hunterout of the water. That's what you
get. Unbelievable, so so crazy. But anyways, I love it.
Knock knocks KISSICKI, we we wereOkay, let's go naked tight end.

(01:45:38):
Never mind, let's take three ofthem. Okay, but but for real
though, like Hunter Henry I thinkis probably going to be the guy there.
But listen, the last time theylast time, who's the officsive coordinator
Jack Quick Bill Brown? That's tome? Was there? Hey, Hernandez
Gron two tight ends? Like theydon't have receivers there, Juju Smith Schuster

(01:45:59):
stinks like they don't you know,they don't really have anything to talk about
there. They could certainly go rightback to that Romander Stevenson run game to
two tight ends. So yeah,I think you know they went out and
got KASSICKI. They you know,he went out. He's a respective,
he's not the blocking tight end everyet Like he doesn't play tight end,
so you know, the big negativeon him has just been kind of training

(01:46:25):
camp buzz seems to be. Youknow, Hunter Henry has a much better
connection at this point. But youknow, I'm willing to to ignore training
camp buzz, especially when I'm forcedto do it because someone took Hunter Henry
before I could take him. Butalso, you know, we were talking
Dawson Knox just the same. Ithink you know King Kaid is similar to
Kissicki in this offense, and thatthey're really playing different positions. So the

(01:46:48):
fact that, like you said,he's Knox is the tight end one for
the Bills until proven otherwise. AndI think Kinkaid's going to be the the
the Cole Beasley plus swoll Swoll Beasley, we call them New York Swoll Beasley.
I completely agree. But Jack,this was so much fun, Dude,

(01:47:11):
this would I would say, let'sdo it again, but it's it's
it's expensive to do again. Buthey, I'm more than happy to do
it. Maybe maybe we do thelast main of of of the year and
compare. But there you go.I like, are you going to be
in Vegas this year? Yes?For these may Yep, yep, gonna
be out there. I love it, so I know I'll see it there
at the at the Circle Pool orwherever. There's so many different places,

(01:47:33):
at the MGM, Top Golf,wherever we're wherever we're hanging out, drafted,
Hey, the Circa Thursday night watchparty, I'll be there, and
I'm am gonna be there. I'mstaying on site too, because I just
I have to be there for theSunday uh Sunday games too, because my
flight leave Sunday evenings. I wantto just check out of my room,

(01:47:56):
put the bags behind the counter,and go to the party, hang out
on and sleep the hole the wholeway hole. But but yes, but
yo, this this was so muchfun. Thanks to all the guys who
were in the draft who were willingto let us kind of show off the
teams here. Thank you Roy forRoy Scott for letting us three days two

(01:48:18):
So this was so much fun.And hey, if this is the winner,
hey, we'll just we're okay withwith the ten k dominator. We'll
take the ten k dominator. We'llsettle, we'll sell, sell for the
Humble. It's right, legion,Legion of Doom is humble, for sure.
There you go, There you go, But listen for grind time for

(01:48:39):
myself, for Jack. Thanks everyonefor tuning in, and I will see
you next week.

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