S06E12 - Collateral

Stay frosty! Time for the penultimate episode of Justified!

Join Groundless this week for a look at Season 6, Episode 12 of Justified, "Collateral." In this week's episode, Chris and Randy: appreciate the Fast/Furious movies thanks to the #1 movie the week this episode aired; observe the gradual descent of David Vasquez into insanity; debate whether Ava was right to set out on foot or whether she should have stayed at Groobs's cabin to "Home-Alone" it with Zachariah; discuss the "Is Wynn Duffy gay" discourse in relation to the Billie Jean King shout-out in this episode; and, of course, celebrate the character retirements for Wynn Duffy and Constable Bob, perhaps the two best side characters in the series.

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Episode Transcript

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Rolling down the bull of buttons,speed a bowl covert like a tail,
all the Tornado Ringer promised, soulkits with one hand on the glass pie.
He hover long, heal, devilriding shot gun, singing boil.

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Let's make a deal. This isGroundless a Justified podcast. This is a
podcast where we watch every episode ofJustified and then come on here and talk
about it. I'm Chris, thatman is Randy. We're almost at the
end of the road. That's right. We are here to talk about Season

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six, episode twelve, the penultimateepisode of Justified, Only one to go.
I'm not gonna get emotion at all. You're getting emotions and all collateral.
This episode originally aired April seventh,twenty fifteen, and our synopsis Raylan
and Boyd's paths cross as they searchfor Ava in the mountains. Markham recruits

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an unlikely ally to his cause.Written by Chris Provenzano and VJ. Boyd.
We know those guys, and directedby Michael Pressman, who did did
an episode last season. I thinkwe introduced him when he when he did
his first episode, was the firstnew director we'd had in a while,
I think, And yeah, he'sback. For his second episode of Justify

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to the next to last episode ofJustified, and then we have a guest
star this week. His name isShay Wigham and he is the driver,
the guy who Boyd pulls over andcarjacks essentially makes him drive him around.
He's a familiar face. You've probablyseen him in a bunch of stuff.
I think probably best known for BoardwalkEmpire. He was in he was in

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I think like three or four season. I think he was in basically every
episode of Boardwalk Empire. And he'salso been in the Fast and Furious series,
so he was in f nine,six and four, so he was
in He was in a bunch ofthose. A few other things. He's

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been in Joker, the new PerryMason series on HBO, The Righteous Gemstones,
which is a fabulous show that alsohas Walton Goggins in it, law
Men Bass Reeves, which is onethat we had mentioned I think once before
on the show Across the Spider Verse, Vice Vice and Vice Principles. Vice

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Principles is another show with Walton Gogginsthat's on Max. It's a comedy,
thirty minute comedy and it's fantastic.And Fargo of course, the weird third
season of Fargo, the little thekind of uneven one there, but but
yeah, definitely a familiar face.I remember seeing him originally and being like,

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oh, I recognize that guy.He's been in a bunch of stuff.
So and then uh yeah so souh before we get to our next
segment, which is where we takea quick trip back and put the put
the episode in its proper historical context, what did you think of the episode?
Rady, Well, it's definitely uh, they could have done it in

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It's basically a two parter, rightlike these these the so it's good.
I really enjoyed it and the andthere were some bodies this, uh this
and uh so I it's it's sadthat it's coming to a conclusion, but
uh, I think that we're comingto like some of the best episodes of

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the of the series now. Soyeah, yeah, I agree, and
this one, this one there thereare definite it's a little bit uneven.
I I agree with you on thatthere are some spots that the Ava Zacharya
stuff drags a little bit, Ithink, but but but by and large,
it's a pretty good episode. Ithink the whole you know, art

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pursuing Raylan thing is a little bitalso a little bit over the top,
but it's fun. You have fortyeight hours. Yeah, it's a lot
of fun. I guess you haveto you have to like get give some
sort of what's it called, likeyou have to give them like a clock

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to go gets right. I don'tknow, Like I mean, obviously we're
coming to the last this is thelast two episodes, but I mean to
build tension, I guess you haveto like do something like that. I
guess. Yeah. It's very reminiscent. And in order to put together one
of the special features we have forthis episode, I had to go back
and pull some clips from some verymuch older Just episodes, and I was

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surprised at how closely this plot parallelsthe end of season three, where you
know, you've got Limehouse sort ofsetting up Boyd, setting up quarrels,
setting up Win Duffy all at thesame time, and like you know,

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Raylan's sort of behind the scenes causingall the chaos, and you know this,
it's sort of like the contrast,right, It's the right way to
do it is the way he didit in season three, and then the
wrong way to do it is theway he's doing it here where he drops
his badge and gun and just goescompletely rogue and shooting it, shooting in

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the dark at a target that hedoesn't recognize, is yeah, yeah,
it's it really is him going likeuh yeah, because he's always been in
that gray area, but he's reallyI don't know, would he be brought
up on charges, probably not,but yeah, I mean yeah, it's
well I'm leaving the and you know, well we'll get to that. We'll

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get to that. So uh butyeah, I think, you know,
overall, pretty good episode. Butbut you know, not not not next
week's episode, that's for sure,which is out. Yeah, sure,
so yeah, exactly. All right, Well, before we get into the
details of the episode, let's takea quick trip back to the week of
April seventh, twenty fifteen, andsee what was going on in popular culture

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at the time. And in orderto do that, we'll need our time
machine. Are you telling me youbuilt a time machine of the Warrior and
our number one movie this week?Speaking of the Fast and the Furious movie
series, our number one movie thisweek, Furious seven one hundred and ninety
one million dollars in its first week, just crazy amounts of money these movies

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bring in. I think, uh, this is not where I started watching
them. I didn't start watching themuntil I think like twenty nineteen or something,
and then I caught up on allof them and went and saw the
new one at the theater and sawthe Are they on like Fast ten or
eleven? It was Faster X wasthe last one, Yes, Fast okay,

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Yeah, I like the I likethe Charlie's there on characters. I
do too. Whatever, it wasa cipher I think we call her,
which is a straight up rip offof the Matrix. But you know,
yeah, yeah, that's right.Well, it's trying to be all things
to all everybody. Yeah, exactly. I mean they're superhero you know,
like I remember like seeing something abouthow they transitioned to to being like superheroes

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when you know, the first thefirst thing was there were street raisors like
boosting DVD exactly right, They werestealing DVD players from semi trucks. Yeah.
And then then in Fast nine atleast they went to space. So
that's right, in Ludicrous, Ludicrousand tires went to space. Upon the

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good God, how did you gethere? Yeah, I mean it's so
bonkers now right, So it's peoplelove it. I thought, I find
that these later ones entertaining but justso crazy. Oh yeah, no,
it's just you suspend all disbelief.There's no there's no laws or rules or
natural order of anything that applies.You know. The rock is a cast

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off of his arm. That's acompletely reasonable thing to do. Kicking kicking
a torpedo that's been fired from anuclear submarine to redirect it on a giant
glacier. Yeah, that's perfectly reasonablewhile you're driving a Lamborghine on on the
on the glaci ice. Yeah,yeah, ReSpectacle though nobody's got them,

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that's for sure. I know.The only thing would be if they were
just doing like a genuine you know, like genuine effects like like I forgot
that with practical effects. Yeah,practical effects. Yeah, they're actually they're
like blowing things up, blowing threefifty dollars in damage today to the the

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Vatican after the crew of the lostcontrol of an explosion in the Fast X
movie filming. That's that's what happenedto Notre Dame is they were filming a
Fast and Furious movie there. That'show it caught fire and burned down,
burned out. Yeah, all right, well that's Furious seven. And then

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our number one top forty song init's thirteenth week with a bullet number one
Uptown Funk with uh uh yeah,no signs of slowing showing, no signs
of slowing down. I will beastounded if it's not the number one song
next week when we do our finalepisode. So we will see. But

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that gets the preliminaries out of theway. So let's get into this episode.
We've got a lot to talk abouthere. It's weird. There's some
weird sort of moments here, andthen we've got we've got a couple of
character retirements we're gonna want to getto. Uh and so yeah, So,
so we start with Boyd pulling over. I mean, we saw at
the end of the last episode thatBoyd was in a cop car. He

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pulls over a driver who's got apickup beat a pickup truck. He hijacks
the vehicle. I mean, clearlygenerally a better idea to be rolling around
as a passenger in a truck thana stolen police car. So so you
give him credit for thinking that farahead, right, because you're gonna get
caught in that stolen police car,and so they drive off into the night.

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We don't know exactly what's going tohappen there, but we have a
pretty good idea. Art arrives atRaylan's car to find his badge and Tim,
you know, tell him what's goingon. He's unhappy with the situation,
and you know, Raylan of courseis out in the woods looking for
the hill people, and he findsone of the hill people and there's a

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whole bunch of dialogue and conversation thathappens here. But basically, the gist
of what we learn is that cousinMary is dead, So the one that
saved Raylan's but last time is dead. There's a bunch of hill people wandering
around in the woods looking for anew place to live because they had to
get moved off of their land dueto the coal mining issues. So I

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guess their land got polluted and theyweren't able to live on it anymore.
So now they're sort of nomads.So they have this whole conversation and Raylan
uses the hill person to help likesort of guide him up the mountain because
he's looking for Groubs' shack as well, and he doesn't know where it is,
but the Hill people can maybe helphim find it. They talk about

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the past. Apparently we learned thatapparently Arlow helped the Hill people or use
the Hill people to help him movedrugs, which you know, again that
sounds about right for Arlow. Yeah, yeah, it seems like he would
have made a lot more money though, you know, yeah, well he
was, that's the thing. Hewas a penny anny they I think Raylan

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referred to him as a penny annycriminal. He he never went big enough
to actually make any money. He'dget a little bit of money and blow
it and then be bat right backwhere he was. So yeah, yeah,
it turns out criminals aren't that smart, that's true. Not all of
them are, Hannibal Lecter, that'sright, that's right. Yeah, that's

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why he was able to get awaywith it for so long. So yeah,
so they have a further discussion aboutthe past, and we learned about
Arlow and then Raylan. You know, he had promised to give or to
sell his place to Loretta for afair price, to sell Arlo's place to
Loretta for a fair price, andit turns out that he can't do that.

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Because she's affiliated with Boyd Crowder.Now, so he uh, he
signs it over to the Hill peopleand he gives them like a gives them
like a deed that says, I, you know, give my property to
the man holding this letter or whatever. And I'm like, I don't think
that's gonna hold up. Do youthink they used to do that? Maybe

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maybe they absolutely used to do that, and that absolutely used to happen.
So so the question is what wouldhappen if Raylan didn't make it down off
the mountain? Would they be ableto take that uh, take that deed
that's been signed over to them andpotentially get the property? H you know
what, I'm not sure. I'mnot sure what the answer to that question

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is. Because it's the statue withoutgetting into all on in it, well,
we'll be very quick about this.So the Statute of Frauds, which
would be required for a transfer ofland in this instance, means that you
have to have assigned writing in orderto memorialize the transaction. The thing is

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that that is assigned writing, andthere's no there's no real looking into whether
or not the writing is sufficient.So someone would have to be one of
Raylan's heirs, So it would haveto be willa. I suppose would have
to bring a case that said thatthey didn't that they justifiably didn't have the

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property, and then they would litigateand determine whether or not that was a
sufficient evidencing of intent to transfer theproperty and to whom. Uh, and
that's going to be a question offact. I don't know how. I
don't know how that one's going tospin out. Yeah, So, like

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if that's not valid or deemed invalid, well I guess it would go back
to Raylan. Then uh, yeah, well it's considered you're considered to have
passed in testate, assuming that Raylandoesn't have another will. Now, if
Raylan has another will, that's awhole separate issue. And so if he
already has a will, he can'tit's tricky to amend that. You typically

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need more than just that that onesigned writing. You need a witness or
a conticel. There's a lot ofthere's a whole bunch of a whole bunch
of rules around wills that are veryspecific to wills and probate and states and
that sort of thing that I don'tknow. But if he didn't have another
will, you're considered to have diedin Testate, it's called and and that

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means that your heirs are your livingrelatives. And if you have a spouse,
it passes entirely to your spouse,if at least in California, this
is how it works. If youyou have children, it passes to the
children in portion and in equivalent portionsplit amongst them depending on how many children

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you have. So if you havetwo children, they get fifty percent each.
It's essentially how it works. Sobut get a will. That's that's
the that's the takeaway from this Forthose of you haven't heard. Get a
will, that's that's a useful thingto have, even if you don't have
a lot of assets. It will, uh, it will be helpful,

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I promise. It's relatively cheap andand it's worth it to do it.
So all right, So with thatmessage aside, you know Ava and Zacharia
are already up at Groub's cabin andthey're they're burying groups because Zacharia is being
a bit of a jackass about it, and you know Ava's still worried about

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Boyd. Zacharai is telling her,you don't have to worry about Boyd.
And and as they're airing groups,they hear on the radio the scanner that
Zacharia brought with them that there mighthave been a sighting of a fugitive.
And they're like, which fugitive andthey're like Boyd Crowder dressed as a cop
driving a cop car. And Avastarts to freak out. She starts.

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She takes it poorly, I wouldsay, And and so Zachariah's plan is
let's lie in wait and when heshows up, we'll kill him. And
Ava is just kind of giggling maniacallyto herself. She appreciates the irony of
her situation. Yeah, yeah,well, and it's sort of the same

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thing like holy of that happens withwhat's her name later on with a Markum,
you know, like oh, theywere like sitting in that barn waiting
for somebody to show yeah, andshe had the backup and they were and
Moon shows up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and so that's kind
of yeah, exactly, that's exactlyright. It's kind of what's what eventually

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happens to It's e zach right,But but yeah, so Eva doesn't want
to sit around and wait to killboy so she we don't know exactly what
she's going to do, but she'snot going to sit and wait to be
killed because she thinks that to staythere and wait as suicide. She might
not be wrong about that, bythe way, So if you had your

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choice, what would you do?Oh boy, it's a good question.
So I'm Ava and I'm at Groubs'spad, and I have all that money,
and I need to make a decisionas to what my next step is.
What am I doing? I thinkwhat I'm doing is I'm splitting the

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money up into multiple stacks. I'mtrying to hide it as best I can
or bury it as best I canat Groubs's place. Anything that I'm not
taking with me, I take withme as much as I possibly can,
and I hoof it out on foot. I don't think, I wait,
that would I don't. I don'tthink. I don't think you have an
advantage, and you know you're peoplewill be like, well, you have

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a fortress, you have groups asshack and that's a fortress, and you
should stay in your fortress, andyou know prepared to you should home alone
it or whatever? Right? Butyall sky fall, Yes, yeah,
exactly but but my perspective on thatis that's not really your fortress. That's
somebody else's fortress. And so youdon't know it. You don't know the

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vulnerabilities, you don't know the strongpoints of it. You're better off continuing
to move. If you're continuing tomove, you've got to lead. He's
not going to be able to catchyou. If you continue to put distance
between you, or at least maintainthe distance that you have, he can't
catch you. But the minute youstop is when he catches you. Now

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you've got law enforcement to worry about. My perspective on this is I'm far
less concerned about law enforcement than Iam about BOYD. Yeah. Yeah,
that'd be the move, I wouldthink, because it's only him. You
know, he doesn't have a wholecrew looking for because he's killed them all,
like the last of his crew,and he's wounded. Also, he's

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not operating at full strength. Yeah. So yeah, And if you can
get if you can get to aplace where you get that money is you're
not just hoofing it around, youcan actually use it, then you know,
I wouldn't say you're home free,but because you still have to deal
with the law enforcement. But Imean, your chances are of getting away

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so much better. Yeah, ifyou can get out of that little you
know, that little bowl that Harlan'sin and get somewhere else. The minute
you're out of there, your yourodds of a success increase dramatically. Yep,
yep. All right. So uhyeah, So Boyd and the driver,
So we get a little scene withBoyd and the driver. Boyd and

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the driver, they have a conversationabout about Boyd's criminal resume and Boyd Boyd
says, Hey, you know,I need you to stick around though,
because it's safer for me to bea passenger. They aren't looking for me
as a passenger. They're looking forme as a driver. They're not looking
for somebody traveling with somebody else.So you're gonna be with me for a

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little bit longer. And at thesame time as that all is happening,
Winn is being released from custody.So Winn has been taken into federal custody.
Apparently Vasquez petition to get him transferredto federal custody after the incident in
his motor coach. And by incident, I mean the double murder or murder

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suicide or I guess it's a doublemurder because either one of them committed suicide,
so it's just a double murder withno murder where both of the murderers
are dead. Never really considered that, Oh did I lose you? Yeah,
you're on mute. I just Iwas just saying that it was like

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a Law and Ordered episode. Yeah, the mystery right, like, yeah,
there's nobody to lock up. Thecops just don't know what to do,
so they're like, well, we'lltake Win in the custody and somebody
here. I like, I likethe whole like vazz Cass going through like

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the box oh yeah of wind stuffLike he's like Austin Powers. It's feat.
I actually have a clip of that. I'm gonna play that Win Duffy.
You've got a damn good lawyer,Win, and I want to know
him because my damn good lawyer.I'll pass along the adulation. Are these

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personal items from my motor coach?Yeah, they're calling a lot of favors
to get you transferred to federal custodynow, and it seems now I gotta
let you go. Billy Jean Kinga pioneer. We took a liberty too.
Freeze your bank accounts. It's prescription. I have sensitive gombs. Depending

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on the results of the investigation,you're fully cleared, you should be able
to get most of your assets office. Oh look it is you are
an eagle scout. It belonged toa dear friend. Of course, Kase,
He's gonna want to keep your wina bag a little bit longer.
But if you want that, youcan stick around for another week or two
that they can have bad memories.Raylan Gibbons, Boyd Crowder, and Avery

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Markham are soon to convert, misterVasquez, like the aligning of the planets,
if those planets carried guns and hatedmy guts. I don't ever plan
on returning to Kentucky. May Ijust have one last question, you know

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for me? Off the record soundssexy. No, I have a a
stack of files this tall sits onmy desk. It said all kinds of
witness interrogation and uh surveillance records andinfo from snitches about who killed Simon Poole
fourteen years ago, and it alladds up to jack shit. So I

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just wanna know, between you andme, who really did it? Who
killed my boss between you and me, mister Vasquez, I really and truly
don't know when Duffy doing what hedoes best, which is lying to the

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cops, lying through his teeth,just completely disavowing all knowledge of everything.
Wonderful. Yeah yeah, So anote I had here was that, like,
you can slowly, like slowly seeVasquez kind of unraveling, like,
oh yeah, kind yeah, heis a stressed out individual. I've got

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another clip of Vascus that we'll talkabout here in a minute where he really
loses it, where he comes completelyunhinged and starts yelling at people and he
destroys poor Nelson's desk. Well,you can definitely see the like the well,
I don't what you would call theforeshadowing of of like because his hair

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is a little bit disheveled here atthis part. I don't know, it's
just the the sentence of madness hasbegun, Like Lloyd Bridge is an airplane.
I picked the wrong day to startsniffing glue, exactly right, pick
the wrong data for amphetamines, andand and so. The the question,

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of course, is does the BillyJean King autograph and the nod to her
being a pioneer, does that equalwind Duffy being gay. That's the question.
What's funny is I don't care whenDuffy is gay or not. It

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doesn't matter. It's kind of likea like, you know, like if
you really weren't paying attention, itwould just like go right by you.
But it's it's just a cool detail, like they always throw in these details,
great little easter egg for the forthe fans. It's it's fantastic yeap,
all right. So you know,Win's got his prescription toothpaste and his

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Billy gen King autograph and his littlebox of h and his in his eagle
Scout knife presumably Mike's eagle Scout knife, I would guess, because I think
Wynn was an eagle scout. Well, no comment, I had a good
one. I'll just save that foroff the air. Yeah and yeah,

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and he walks away with a planto never return to Kentucky again. We
have one more scene with h withwyn where he he meets with a woman
to to order a vehicle gun documents. So he's basically getting the get the
hell out of town package from fromhis contact, and he asks her for
a dog grooming van, one thatactually operates that's an actual operating dog grooming

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van, and he pays in diamondswhich are hidden in his prescription toothpaste.
There they were Catherine's engagement ring.And and the only h the dogmobile.
I always pictures that that dog groomingvan from Dumb and Dumbo. Oh absolutely,
that's absolutely what pops into my headtoo. It's with the big ears

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on the side. Yeah. Yeah, And the clip we see in the
flashback, it's actually not that faroff. In the next episode we get
a little like, uh no,no appearance Win Duffy flashback clip of him
potentially with with his potential dog groomingvan. But yeah, and so that's

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the last appearance of Wind Duffy inJustified. And what we know is that
for a character that makes it uhall the way alive gets to leave Harlan
alive, we honor them with alittle bit of a retirement segment, and
we have a Win Duffy retirement here. No, those are just a janitorial

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service he used to clean up yourblood after you've been murdered. I don't
even trust the way you just nowsaid I could trust you. Are you
smoking oxycon? And my motor coach? Udi are you accusing me of being
a fake blonde, because if youneed me to prove it to you,
I might be inclined to break youover that step ladder, ride you down
like a teaser pony, and paintthis room an entirely different color. Jesus

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Christ, there are cups outside.Was probably my favorite secondary character in the

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show. I think he is.I think probably. I mean, and
going back through this and seeing allof kind of the good moments of win
Duffy and like having to choose,you know, twenty seven seconds worth of
audio, there was really actually adifficult thing to do. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I mean, he's hadsome great lines and yeah, yeah,
I think that's fair. One ofthe one of the best characters,
A very I would say, avery unique character to the world have Justified.
I think he fit very well intothe mesh of what Justified was and

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and and the actor played him,I think to perfection. He was this
very unusual person who was also incrediblydangerous, and I think he did.
I think he did very well.I said, I was watching some of
the older ones and like the clipwhere he shows up in Winona and Gary's

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house, right, and he's he'sobviously very much younger, and they all
are. It's weird to see itto look back and see their faces.
It's gonna be weird to look backand see my face when we started recording
this podcast. But yeah, Imean he uh, he's very much younger.
He's got the beard, the fullbeard, but very menacing, very

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scary in those first couple episodes whenwe meet him. Yeah, I wonder
if he his character was like onlysupposed to be limited to just like a
little bit, you know, likemaybe a couple episodes, and he just
did such a good job of playingthem, and they found some more like
because he's such a good character,so you know, they the answer is

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yes. So he was not supposedto die in the first season. He
was, however, supposed to dieafter Trooper Tom Bergen gets killed and Raylan
goes on his rampage. He wasgoing to end up getting shot in the
head, but Raylan didn't like theway the or Tim Oliphant didn't like the

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way the scene went, so theychanged it and you stayed on m So
yeah, so if you remember atthe beginning of that's the episode uh where
quarrels or I'm sorry, where Arlowkills trooper Tom Bergen Quarrels is on the
run and and Raylan has the statetroopers pull over the motor coach and plays

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Harlan roulette with with well, yeah, that's that episode, and that's where
that's where Win was supposed to die. I don't know what the circumstances are.
That's that's just what I read,and that that Tim Olfant didn't like
the the way that it played out, so they rewrote it, and Win
Duffy by season five and six becamea full member of the cast. So

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I wondered a fan favorite, Yeah, I would say so, Yeah,
I think so favor fit for sure. Yeah, and used sparingly enough that
we didn't get sick of him,right, I mean it was again good
acting, good character, but alsovery good writing to sort of give give
him to us in relatively small doses. Yeah, not so much of a

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good thing. Yeah, you don'tmake him the main antagonist. You just
make him one of these ancillary orbitalcharacters like Limehouse, who's kind of out
there and you know, just beingcool. Whenever you need him to be
cool, you can go back tothe well and be like, okay,
we need win Duffy in this scene. Yeah, yeah, so farewell,

(33:49):
farewell win Duffy. Congratulations on leavingHarlan alive. That should be the Yeah,
we can have like a billboard orsomething like that, like the FBI
boards or something like that, Ohdid you leave or missing or whatever?
So uh so yeah, so Loretta, So we get We get a lot

(34:12):
of different perspectives in this episode.The scenes are very short. It hops
around a lot and uh, I'llre get. We get a scene with
Loretta and her ex boyfriend slash bodyguardthere hold up and what appears to be
I think I understood to be oneof the old Bennett drying burns. Yeah,
that's why I thought too. Yeah, and uh, they've got traps
set up out front, but theyboth the trap. One of the traps

(34:35):
goes off and they both go tolook out the window. And when they're
distracted looking out the window, Boonecomes in and I have a clip of
that. Hi, Loretta, I'vebeen looking everywhere for you, you know,
one way in out of this place. I snap one of your traps
and you both take your eyes offthe door. You're a smart girl,
but I got a thing or twoto teach you yet, I reckon.

(34:58):
I could see both better if youstepped out this. Yes, you son,
Come on now, giddy up.How about you put down them toys.
I'm out here to start a ruckes. Who the hell are you just

(35:21):
your boyfriend? Oh? Yeah,you wanna save your girlfriend? He ain't
my boyfriend, Loretta. Girl,A boy doesn't become a man until he
can make his own decisions. Youwanna raise up that gun try and shoot
me? Are you afraid I'm toofast? I am, by the way.
Good news, Jenny here. Yougotta leave her fire and chamber empty

(35:45):
avoid an accidental discharge. Bad news, Her chamber's full of promise. Now
how about we try that again?Huh? You not having to clear that
holster? Boy that fast approaches afair friend? Oh shit, he's still

(36:07):
kicking. That's the risk you rungoing for a headshot, Loretta. But
I figure, ah, you neverknow when one of these pushes. You're
wearing kevlar, right, always gofor the brain, best man, Ah,

(36:34):
don't worry, I'll forgive you.So a lot of implied danger and
off screen danger from Boone in theepisodes leading up to this one, but
in this one we actually get someactual violence conducted by Boone and in the

(36:57):
kind of most dispassionate possible way,right, which is the scary part.
I would say, I think thething that was very surprising because you know,
this was a network TV or atleast cable and when markn comes in
later, I think that that therewas that that you didn't expect where he

(37:17):
also, oh yeah, what doI do with this? Just leave him
there? Whatever the line was liethere and bleed or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah,that's right. Right immediately after this,
or not immediately, but shortly afterthis, Markham arrives at the barn and
yeah, just right up coup degrass Derek, because he's still you know,

(37:39):
kicking around or at least breathing onthe floor by the time Markham gets
there. I feel like he gotshot in about the same place that Boyd
did, right Oh yeah, huhyeah, just the opposite side, and
so it was probably very survivable woundif he had gotten something, yeah,
because he was looking at his Yeah, he was looking at his arm or

(38:01):
shoulder like in that area, notnot like a lung or or maybe center
mass like it looked like it wascollarbone area. Yeah. Yeah, So
probably probably survivable, but yeah,what are you going to do to put
out on the floor for six hoursand then gets shot in the head.

(38:22):
You're probably not gonna survive. Sothe other thing I had note I had
was like Loretta was still very calm, you know, like very very still
still calm. Maybe maybe scared,but but she does a good job of

(38:43):
being just like remaining focused or calm, and I thought that was very good
on her end. Yeah, No, I think she kind of. I
think I think what her her decisionmaking was at that point was Okay,
this is going to go one oftwo ways, and I don't control which
way it goes, so I mightas well just chill and hope it doesn't

(39:07):
go the way I don't want itto go, right, because eventually,
what she gets around to when Markhamdoes show up, she gets around offering
markam partnership. She says, hey, look, you don't know this area,
they already don't like you. Workwith me, will work together on
this and will be successful. Andhe compares her to mas Bennett. Yeah,

(39:28):
and it seems as though he maybe buying into her idea, So
you know, who knows what.Whether she's going to win the day and
say, hey, look, let'slet these people stay on their land and
we'll just grow the pot on itand all that stuff. So it's unclear
what their partnership means. It's alsoyou know, a partnership at the barrel

(39:52):
of a gun is never a particularlysuccessful partnership. I wouldn't imagine, but
yeah, we will find out.And then, you know, we didn't
talk about the h the Ava aspectof their conversation, but we'll get to
that here in a minute, becausewe've got an inciting event that's going to
cause basically everything else that happens betweenRaylen Zachariah boyd Art and Ava. Everything

(40:20):
else that happens happens because of whathappens next. And what happens next is
this clip? Where is she?Where's our who's running a shit show?
Where is everybody? Yeah? Idon't know. The man hunts plural and
they left you to what do yournails? Oh? If it's your business,
vesk kids, I'm coordinating. Ohwell that's fantastic. Maybe you can
coordinate an explanation for this bullshit.Bulletin Chief called in and looks pretty serious.

(40:53):
You were saying, having a badday, David yeah you can,
dude, I just came in.You're asking about the bullet. Well,
when a Marshall's life is in danger, we put out a bullet and saying
so helping a fellow LEO bring himin a protective custody. You think I

(41:15):
don't know that Givings is gone rogueand that you're closing ranks sort of avoid
a pr nightmare. You and everybodyin this office is gonna be writing thank
you notes to Art Mullen from theFederal Penitentiary. Attitude is not helpful.
Open your ears negative. We're nottalking about a write up. Everybody in
here is an accessory to a tenmillion dollar heist, aiding and a betting

(41:39):
a fugitive. Never mind, there'sno point. Give me sack out.
Let's sub at the FBI. Ohhey, are what's up? Hold on,
you're breaking up? Hit back andget a signal that say that again.
Oh hey, are what's up?Oh you know scouring the countryside for

(42:00):
dumb ass you Well, I justhad Vasque's pissing in my ear about the
bulletin. So it looks like wecan't keep the whole railing Givings gone rogue
thing in the house. He sniffedit out sooner. I think he just
trashed Nelson's desk too. Well,how did you leave it? Well,
he's on the phone now. Yeah, I'm gonna need a bolo issue for
Raylan giving. In fact, Ijust heard him tell the FBI ball sacked

(42:21):
to issue a bolo Well shit,wait one. The point is, as
soon as I get him, I'mgonna indict him. I just heard him
say he wance Raylan indicted. Doubleshit. There's so many wonderful things I
hit. Vasqueeze is spectacular from what'sup just scouring the countryside looking for dumb

(42:52):
ass Vasquez is impotent rage, screamingat the office like Jerry Maguire, who's
coming with me? And nobody's comingwith them? And so you know the
difference between him and Jerry Maguire ishe picked up the phone and called the
FBI, And of course Nelson's deskgets trash, Nelson for Nelson, the

(43:16):
punching bag for the Marshall Service.It's good stuff. It's very very good
stuff. And to your point,Randy, it's like, you know,
you're just further melting down of DavidFasquat. Yeah, I mean he's uh
yeah, Like his very first appearance, he was very you know, he

(43:38):
had it very put together, andhe was very confident. And this is
him just losing it right now atthe end of the series. He just
can't take it anywhere. Everyone's conspiringagainst it. I'm going crazy. You'll
rude the day, You'll ruth dayscreaming into the void. Al Heast trumped

(44:02):
everybody in this office. He's gonnago to the federal penitentiary. I'm putting
cases on all you motherfucker door outof order. I'm putting cases on all
your mother But that's exactly right,That's exactly right. It's the same thing.

(44:23):
Yep. Oh, that's so good. All right. So Constable Bob
here's about the Bolo, and himmediately chooses to ride to the rescue,
gets down to his his place,or gets down to his garage, and
finds out that Raylan has stolen hiscrown vacum and and so Bob has to

(44:46):
take the gremlin his his uh whatdid he call it? I forget what
he called it, but his hehad a nickname for it. Oh,
I forgot what that was. Butyeah, So so he rides off.
He had now did he have atrack was that what was he like an

(45:07):
eye tag or something like that orwhatever. Yeah, he said he had
a tracker on it. So he'sable to see on the GPS where Raylan
is, which is, you know, presumably near Groubs's cabin, and able
to get over there or or toattempt to get over there to to offer
assistance. And when I say that, what happens next, what I mean

(45:32):
is Vasquez is issuing the Bolo causeseverything else that happens. Well, what
happens is, uh constable Bob getsto the bottom of the mountain to find
his crown vic is there. Raylan'sgone. So Raylan's already gone up the

(45:52):
mountain, and then Ava comes downthe mountain and she because she's running away
from Groubs's place, we see ascene of her leaving a voicemail for somebody
on a cell phone saying, ifyou want, you know, a shot
at this, you've got to callme right away. We're running out of

(46:13):
time something like that. We don'tknow exactly what that calls about. And
she arrives at the bottom of themountain, finds Bob's crowned vic and then
Bob's there holding her at gunpoint.He takes her into custody. They have
a conversation about whether she's killed Raylan, which I thought was interesting and interesting
because of sort of way for forBob to ask her. He's like,

(46:35):
did you kill Raylan? Because becauseRaylan's not there and Ava is right,
So, I mean, it's it'swhat it's it's sort of a natural question
if you're if you're a third partyobserver. Yeah, yep. So he
takes her into custody, cuffs herinside the uh, inside the gremlin,
and they're gonna sit it down thereand wait uh for Raylan to come back

(46:59):
down the mount. Unfortunately, whilethey're waiting, Boyd arrives, and Boyd
arrives after you know, he hasa conversation with his driver, and so
you'll remember we talked a little bitabout the driver admiring Boyd and talking about

(47:21):
his criminal resume and all that stuff, and then you know, kind of
getting down together and really enjoying that. There's a reference to that in this
clip. And so I have thatconversation between Boyd and the driver. Cool
to here can feel it. Yeah, it's just thinking the same thing.

(47:42):
I appreciate the lie mister Crowder.But we both know what you wasnnging,
Lucy, And then all you knowmy mind, maybe I's gonna take your
keys, let you walk so youcan shoot me in the bag. You
don't have to look me in theeye you pull that trigger. Ah,

(48:06):
I knew the minute you stepped inmy cap, I was gonna be staring
down in the black hole of yourgun. Cut me down like the plague
you are. Well, I gotto say you did do a pretty good
job. All that to smoke,you blowing up my ass ain't no smoke.
What I will say is stories aboutlow legions. They ain't passed down
by the families of the murder.Well, I don't give a shit about

(48:27):
the battle of the boy Crowder.I'll be dead and gone. That song
gets sung, old boy by thename of hu m King mean anything to
you. Let me guess I killedhim, my men killed him, my
dope killed him, or my daddykilled him. Next thing comes out of

(48:50):
your mouth is how do you sleepat night? Boy Crowder? Well,
do you know how? Cause Iknow who I am? Do you your
slave? Disenfranchised? Don't even knowit? You drive your shitty truck to
your shitty house, live about yourshitty life. You think you're better than

(49:12):
me because you played by the rules. Whose rules? My life is my
own. You ain't even heard aword as I don't give a shit about
what you said. I'm an outlaw. Yet another scene of Boyd murdering

(49:32):
someone inside a vehicle. Again again, Yeah, that's sort of his preferred
methodology. I think, yeah,yeah, now that I think about it,
that's probably what fourth is, fourthone, at least the third.
Yeah, I can't I'm trying toremember if there's a fourth, but you're
probably right. I mean, yeah, it's it's crazy that happens a lot.

(49:58):
I uh, you know. Ithis because it exposes a couple of
things, right, It exposes theyou know, hey, you can sort
of have an appreciation I like theperspective of the driver, right, you
can sort of have an appreciation forthe I don't even want to call it.
You don't admire, but you canappreciate as you one of appreciates a

(50:21):
work of art. What Boyd doesfor his job, for you know,
as being a criminal, what hedoes, you can you can have an
appreciation of it while still not admiringit. And I feel that's sort of
the line that the driver has walkedhere when he says, hey, look,
it's no smoke. I wasn't bullshittingyou. You have you have a

(50:42):
cool resume, dude, but you'realso really, really bad. And I
knew you were going to kill mewhen I picked you up, and that
should tell you everything you need toknow about yourself. Yeah. Yeah,
And but at that point, ashe says, I don't care, no,
And that's the thing. And that'sthe other thing I like about it

(51:02):
is because it exposes Boyd for whathe truly is. You know, you
we get a lot of ve nearover Boyd throughout all of these seasons of
the show. You have the whitesupremacist Boyd. You have the religious Boyd.
You have the I'm only doing itfor the coal mine Boyd. You

(51:22):
have you know, you have allthese different sort of varieties of Boyd,
and at their core, it's I'mthe outlaw. I like to kill people,
blow shit up, and steal money. That's what I like to do.
And it goes right back to thefirst episode again and they come fall.

(51:44):
He likes to blow shit up andsteal money. Yeah. Well,
it is interesting that that word outlaw. I mean, doesn't it mean like
you literally are not conforming exactly asBoyd says, he doesn't conform to whatever
laws there are, and he sohe's not entitled any of the protections then
either, right, I mean heshould be like he can be killed on

(52:07):
site, probably, Yeah, Imean, well that was the that was
the philosophy right in the Old West. It was like, if you don't
respect the law, then the lawdoesn't protect you. And yeah, you
know that's why you could do deador alive and all that stuff, you
know, right, a little morecivilized now because we as in a society

(52:28):
have become civilized and realized that wedon't have to be unequal footing with criminals,
right, that that that we don'thave to stoop to the level of
the criminal in order to get justice. We can get justice by being dispassionate
instead of passionate. Yeah, maybewe go back to the other way,

(52:51):
old water. There's a reason whythey've lasted so long. I think.
The the thing with Boyd and andit is once again a reminder of just
what like he is a criminal,so you know we like not just a

(53:12):
criminal, an arch criminal, amurderer, a yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think it's the same thing thathappens with like we've talked before,
like with Tony Soprano. I meanhe's a you know, same sort of
thing. But then you then yousee what he does and how good he
like good as in, uh,how how competent he is at at what

(53:37):
he does. And I don't know, like you're saying you have an appreciation
for it, I guess yeah,yeah, yeah, Again, it's it's
not to be admired, it's tobe appreciated, I think. And and
that's the just like just like anyonewho's you know, like a uh conductor
of an orchestra, right or theguy who's who's making uh a mosaic a

(54:00):
tile mosaic right on a on astreet installation or something. It's it's you
have an appreciation for what they're doing, even though the net result isn't necessarily
something you you like, right,Like you know the guy is you know,
he works for the city. It'slike four different shades of brown tiles.

(54:22):
But you have an appreciation for whatgoes into the work and and uh
and what they're doing. That's that'ssort of like that's how I like to
think about it, and and anyshow with an anti hero like this,
right, Breaking Bad is the sameway. You don't aspire to be Walter
White's unless you've got something wrong withyou, but you have an appreciation for

(54:44):
how good Walter White is at whathe did. Yeah, yeah, all
right, so uh yeah, let'ssee so so boyd uh. After that,
he exchanges fire with Bob. Wedon't see that happen, So Boyd
hears the gunshot that kills the driver. I'm sorry, Bob, here's the

(55:06):
gunshot that kills the driver and headsback in that direction to investigate, leaving
Ava handcuffed in the gremlin as Boydand Bob exchange fire. Presumably again we
don't see it, but presumably that'swhat's happening. Ava then escapes the gremlin,
is able to get out of therestraints and runs away in the opposite

(55:29):
direction and has her backpack still,so we don't know exactly what where she's
going, or what her destination is, or who she was talking to on
the phone or attempting to talk toon the phone, but she's once again
on the loose. She is provingto be very, very slippery in terms

(55:49):
of a prisoner a fugitive. Yes, I mean she gets out of everything.
Every situation she's in she gets outof, she manages to to to
worm her way out of. Soshe's a crafty one. Labo said on

(56:12):
that movie, she knew that movie. I can't I can't even think of
it right now with Rooster and uhRooster cogboir Jeff Bridges. God, why
can't I think true Grit's true grit? Yes, that's right, thank you,
Jesus. I'm losing it in myold age man. Not that,

(56:36):
not that, not that our notthat our friend Boone would know this.
But there there was an original versionof True Grit, of course, with
y with a different Rooster Cockburn.Yes, that's right, John Wayne,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, TVCowboy. Yeah. That's a good that's
that's a that's a great connection there. That's also I'm pretty pleased with my

(57:00):
Yeah, we just together. Ican barely speak my name and you are
just assuming Bibey on the rocket shipget on my level. Uh so,

(57:20):
Ava, she is heading across abridge when the when the cricket Harland cops
grab her, and that's an unfortunateset of circumstances. So she's going to
have to figure out how to getaway again because they're the Cricket Harland cops
that are working for Markham. Anduh there they grab her and drag her
away and make clear that they're takingher to Markham. And those are the

(57:43):
same the same cops that were thatlet go or that they were going to
give to mark them. What's hisname the kid? Yeah, the exact
same guys. Yep. Yeah,yeah, somehow they were off of desk
duty or whatever. They're lucky thatRaylan didn't stumble across them. Again.
I have a feeling Raylan wouldn't havehesitated to pull the trigger this time.

(58:05):
Yeah, especially you know, badgelessRaylan. Oh yeah, rogue, rogue
Raylan and so so. Yeah,but as they're dragging her away, she
drops the gator tooth necklace on theground. So that's sure to come into
play in the finale here coming up. But Raylan had attempted I'm sorry,

(58:32):
Markham. Earlier in the we talkedabout, you know, his conversation with
Loretta and and he attempted to dothis whole thing where he connected Loretta to
Boyd and then Boyd to Ava andsuggests that they were all conspiring together and
so you know where the money is, and and Loretta's like, yeah,

(58:52):
I don't know. Let's tell you, but I certainly don't know where the
money is. We were not conspiringtogether. And then he believes her because
Ava was already in his custody,in the custody of his guys. But
I wondered as I was watching that, I wondered, like, well,
what would have happened if he hadn'thad Ava in custody? Would they have
tortured Loretta to try to find outif she knew where the money was,

(59:15):
just on that tenuous of a connection, And I feel like they might have.
Oh do you think Boone would haveYeah, he probably would have.
I think he absolutely would happen.Yeah, yeah, or he probably liked,
well, I don't know, it'slike one of those things that he
probably would have, you know,sexually assaulted her. Maybe, yeah,

(59:37):
I could very well be that couldcertainly certainly not on this show, right,
they would go after But I couldcertainly see on like an HBO show
or something like that. I couldcertainly see a threat to do that as
part of the torture of a woman. Yeah, you don't see a lot
of torture of women, and Ithink on television, and I think probably

(59:59):
because that's that's a yeah, that'sa preferred method. Yeah. Well even
though, well that's goes back towhat I was saying earlier. It was
like Markham shooting that kid because hewasn't he's still a kid, what was
He's like seventeen or whatever? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but yeah,

(01:00:20):
these guys are ruthless, yeah,criminals. So yeah, so so
all of that, and then Raylan'son his way down the mountain, and
on his way down the mountain,he uh sees a figure in the darkness
and immediately starts shooting at because that'swhat responsible gun owners do. Ye,

(01:00:45):
yes, always just shoot blindly atwhatever's moving in the dark. Yeah,
exactly. And luckily it turns outto be Boyd. We don't know how
many times he might have shot beforeBoyd showed up. But I have a
clip of that, and uh,they're conversation. It's a little bit longer
than our normal clip. I cutsome silence out of it as well.

(01:01:05):
God damn, Rayling, How youknow I want some boys look your teeth
glowing the dark? But you shotunprovoked? How am I first to take
that as me aiming to kill you. Well, it's only getting colder.
So what's say the next time themoon peeks out from behind those clouds,

(01:01:29):
we show it down. Now you'retalking. The only problem is, Rayling,
I don't know where you are.I don't know where I am either.
Why you wanna kill me so bad? Rayling? You don't even know
why? Boy, crowd of mustdie. It's just a lie you tell

(01:01:52):
yourself. I won't to win.You are the don't conquer and imperiphize the
biggest reserve for yourself. Just sayit, Rayland, I wanna weird?
How about I want the money?Shit? You wanna kill her? Boy?

(01:02:15):
You wanna kill the woman that stoleyour money, shot you and left
you from dead. You don't knowwhat's in my heart? What heart?
You don't know what's in your ownheart? You've given up everything you are
so that you can murder me.I cross the line with my eyes.
Why I don't you well? Who'seyes you gonna see when you kill me?

(01:02:42):
Rnting, Your Daddy's nothing more yourbaby. Girls. Imagine the look
on her face the day she realizesmy daddy spent his whole life trying to
walk the line and failed. Ifyou're liver last away, everybody does O

(01:03:02):
O. Are you sure you don'twant me to kill you? Right and
keep you a hero? It makesfor a hell of a bedtime story.
This is the only story here tonight. You don't think that's Bob, do
you? Why would that be Bob? Well, I shot him a couple

(01:03:24):
of times down the trailhead. Ithink he might still be alive. You
ought to run down there and seeif you can't help him. Bob can
take care of himself. Hell right, and I have already one. Yeah.
I love that little exchange. Itdoes kind of call out Raylan's seemingly,

(01:03:49):
you know, it is something thatI think is worth talking about.
Seemingly rapid decision making to immediately dropall premise of being a law enforcement officer
and try to murder Boyd's. Itseemingly comes a little bit out of nowhere.
But I think I get it.Well, I get it, Yeah,

(01:04:14):
Okay, I totally get it.I mean, he's Raylan is not
quite John Wick, but you know, he is a man of focus,
and he is a man through sheerwill Well. Yeah, I think I
think all of Kentucky saw him onetime killed three men with a pencil.

(01:04:36):
Yeah, Boba yaga, Yeah yeah. I think there's an element of that,
that's right. I think there mightbe a little bit more to it,
though, right in that that Raylanhas seen Boyd get away so many

(01:04:59):
times times he has seen Boyd wriggleout from justice and as a result,
people have died as some of thatdirectly as a result of Raylan fucking up.
Right, yes and so and soyou've got this thing where Raylan's like,
look, I've tried to do itthe right way, like four times,

(01:05:24):
guys, and four times you havelet him go. What do you
want me to do here? Icannot let this guy continue to be free
and roam around and cause chaos andkill people. So I see what he's
getting at. I don't think it'sas sudden as it can feel the way

(01:05:48):
it kind of you know, they'rethey're trying to cram a lot into these
last few episodes, and so itfelt it felt on an initial watch,
I would say it felt very likea very sudden kind of switch flip.
But I don't think that's what itis. It's an accumulation of punishment that
resulted in a hasty decision. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think

(01:06:15):
that he I mean, that's prettymuch what the build up has been for
this whole season. I mean evenfrom the very first the very first season
when he was banging E when Raylanwas I mean that was sort of on
him still, you know, likecompromising the a witness like that. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, that'swhat I mean when I say, you

(01:06:38):
know he feels guilty because yeah,absolutely, And and he chose not to
kill Boyd in that moment too,right, we know that it was a
volitional act on his part to missthe heart yep, yep. So so
yeah, he probably feels some senseof responsibility for everything that's happened since then.

(01:07:00):
I don't think he feels that it'ssomehow he's to blame for it,
but I think he might feel asense of duty to make sure it can't
be allowed to continue. Yeah,yeah, well, I yeah, I
think that's good. That's fair.I do think that there is a fair
critique here in the sense that he'sbasically done it in a mindless fashion,

(01:07:26):
though, because he's put himself ina position where if he were to if
he were to have murdered Boyd,Crowder in the woods. Even if Boyd's
got a gun and everything else,If he killed Boyd Crowder in the Woods,
he is no longer a marshal.He is also very likely not clearing
his own name from the suspicion ofthe conspiracy to steal the ten million dollars,

(01:07:53):
right, I mean, yeah,he looks hella guilty if he kills
Boyd in the woods. That's agood point, yeah, I mean yeah,
especially with Vasquez on hum the wayhe is. Yeah, you know,
yeah, the only way he hadI mean, and he's he acknowledged
it himself. The only way hecan resolve this situation, he can get

(01:08:13):
himself out of this hole he's in, is to bring in Boyd, Eva,
the money or all three. That'sthe only that's the only opportunity out
of this for him, And killingBoyd in the Woods does not It's not
a start down that path. Soso there's a little bit of mindless kind
of you know, rage going onhere too, I think so. But

(01:08:41):
h So, after after this,after this exchange, Raylan heads down the
mountain, finds Bob shot to hell, and rushes him to the hospital.
Calls the Martial Task Force to tellhim that Boyd is headed to Grubs's place
and that they need to check forhim there, and drops drops by off
the hospital. But Bob's got acouple of gunshot wounds. He looks like

(01:09:03):
he's in pretty bad shape, buthe's a tough motherfucker. I think I
think Bob's gonna survive. I thinkBob's gonna survive. Do you agree?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Sothat means we don't do the rip segment
for Constable Bob, do we?This is his last appearance on the show.
He made it out of Harlan alive. He gets to have a retirement

(01:09:25):
segment, and I've got that readyto go. True the doctor on TV.
I caught up with her. Don'tthat little girl did give me a

(01:09:47):
blow job? Do you believe that? You stay Frosty? Let him keep
thinking I'm a joke. That's whatI say. They undressed, make me
at their peril like Nancy Drew.Hell, yeah, I got a badge
and I got balls left death doors. Let's do this, Drew buckin audios

(01:10:23):
to Constable Bob again, another anothercharacter who, despite only appearing in a
handful of episodes, had so manygood lines to choose from. Yeah.
Yeah, he's a good actor too. Yeah. What's his name, Patton,
Patton Oswald? Yeah, yeah,yeah, I don't. I don't

(01:10:45):
really have anything else to add tohim. He's uh it would have been
cool to see him in uh inthe later uh not later episodes, but
this season, maybe a cameo orsomething like that. Oh and that never
happened. Yeah, yeah, thatwould have been interesting. Yeah. I
always like Constable Bob. I thinkhe's I think he's a great, great

(01:11:10):
character, and and people underestimate them, underestimate him at their peril over again,
yeap, just as Arrow the lastguy who did that, he got
tased and again, look, hetook a beating from Yolo, didn't give
up the didn't give up the location, I mean, basically had his face

(01:11:32):
turned to mush by Yolo, andthen he gets two gunshots from Boyd Crowder
and he's still he's tough as hell. Yeah, I'm on a tangle with
Constable Bob. No. I wonderwhy boy didn't like just finish him off.
Uh you know what do you want? You know why? I think

(01:11:56):
because he he planned for this exactscenario. Oh yeah, it's a bargaining
chip for him. Absolutely if heif he had encountered Raylan a different sort
of circumstance and Raylan had managed totake him into custody or something, he
would have said like, oh,I know something you don't know about your
friend Constable Bob or whatever, andtried to make a deal to you know,

(01:12:19):
get him or to distract him atleast. Ah, yeah, use
him. Yeah, that's a goodYeah, that's a good point because he
Yeah, he knew exactly that Iwouldn't play it when he heard Bob yelling.
Yeah, because Bob yelled earlier intheir exchange too. There was a
there was a yell about halfway throughthe exchange that went completely unacknowledged. It

(01:12:44):
was only when Boyd was like,Okay, I need to find a way
out of the situation that he waslike, Oh, you don't suppose that's
Boyd or that's Bob, do you? And I love the little accent that
Boyd uses. At the end ofthat, I shot him a couple of
times down the mountain or whatever.He gets very kind of shucks yokel you

(01:13:06):
know, it's it's very funny.So and that's pretty much it. Boyd
arrives at Groubs's cabin at right.At the end of the episode, Zacharai
is there. Zacharai gets the dropon Boyd, but not really because Boyd
doesn't take a gun shot. Theywrestle around a little bit outside the house

(01:13:32):
and Zachariah turns out he has alittle bomb that he's manufactured while he's been
there at Groups's and switches it onand almost blows up Boyd again. Boyd
manages to dive you know whatever,the outside the blast radius of eighteen inches

(01:13:53):
and gets away entirely uninjured from anotherexplosion. So another one in the past
whatever, twenty four hours. Yeah, he's been shot and almost blown up
twice in the last like day.Yeah, it's a rough that's a rough

(01:14:14):
day. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a great we'll we'll definitely have
a clip of it because it isa it is a seminal moment in the
show. But there's a level ofexasperation that Boyd has in the next episode
that is us. It's a masterpiece, it really so, and you can

(01:14:40):
almost understand why after after all this, after the day he's having, what
a day I'm having? All right, Well, that gets us through the
episode. So do you have anythinganything that we uh that I didn't mention,
I did like to. This isthe second time that they mentioned I

(01:15:00):
think the first time they mentioned Boyd'steeth was the very first episode or something
like that, when he was like, oh, Curtsey of the United States
government. However, yeah, theydo get mentioned on occasion. Uh.
Nikky Augustine commented on Boyd's teeth,Oh, yeah, that's right at one
point, and uh and I'm prettysure that uh Quarrels did at least once.

(01:15:25):
Yeah. Also I liked that though. It's like your his teeth was
glowing in the dark. Blow yourteeth glow in the was the other thing
I had. Oh, the otherthing I had was like, you know,
like Scully and Molder would always haveflashlights, Raylan could think to bring

(01:15:45):
his Yah, what kind of lawenforcement officer you left your badge, flashlight
and gun behind in the car,Like, yeah, yeah, gotta have
a flashlight. Come on, youhave a he has a phone. Your
phone is a flashlight on it.We've seen him use the iPhone equivalent,

(01:16:09):
right, it's like a de brandediPhone, So that's right. I don't
know. I tried to carry aspare flashlight wherever I go like a flashlight,
I'd be just because I think myeyes are just going so bad that
at night, I feel like Ineed to use it every once in a
while. Yeah, I I'll ifI'm out at night, like when I

(01:16:29):
went to a concert or whatever,and it was walking back to our hotel
and you know, maybe there weren'tas many street lights as they needed to
be. I get the flashlight outmy phone and shign it or whatever.
So yeah, absolutely, But allright, well let's uh, let's get
to our final segment. If thatgets us through the episode. Are you

(01:16:50):
gonna are you gonna shoot him too? Ryland? I was telling my friends
this morning yesterday, come to meand if you don't get out of town
in twenty four hours, I'm gonnashoot you on sight burnout. Are you
gonna shoot him? I'll get foryou before you even clear your weapons.
Not take more chances with the otheryou get the chance, shoot him in
he pull my side arm less,I'm going to shoot to kill. Are

(01:17:14):
you gonna shoot him? To Raylan? And Raylan does not shoot anybody this
episode, and he did shoot atBOYD, remember as we just discussed,
But uh, but all the bodiesI Boyd was responsible for one, Markham
was responsible for the kid, andZachary was responsible for himself. Yes,

(01:17:36):
yes, and there's a less ofa body and more of a pile.
Yeah, somebody get vaporized. Hellof a way to go to bad window.
He wasn't there to have a bigchunk land on him. He's like

(01:17:57):
getting into his car if something fallsfrom damn it. But yeah, that
was it. I mean the piecingof this episode going to next it really
is truly like it's just a twoparter or so. Yeah. So yeah,

(01:18:19):
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