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August 26, 2025 • 27 mins
This pivotal episode explores the revolutionary research of Dr. Carol Dweck on fixed versus growth mindset, demonstrating how our beliefs about our abilities literally rewire our brains and shape our reality. Guru Anand Bodhi shares compelling stories, including Maria's transformation from math-anxious to confident problem-solver, illustrating how changing our internal narrative can unlock hidden potential. The episode delves deep into the neuroscience of mindset, explaining how growth-oriented thinking activates different brain networks than fixed thinking, literally changing our physiological responses to challenges. Through practical examples and personal experiences, listeners learn the transformative power of adding "yet" to limiting self-statements, turning "I can't do this" into "I can't do this yet." The discussion covers how praise focused on effort and process rather than innate ability cultivates resilience and challenge-seeking behavior. The episode provides concrete tools for developing what's called "learning courage" - the willingness to look foolish while learning - and "process pride" - finding satisfaction in effort and improvement rather than just results. By examining failure reframing techniques and meta-cognitive awareness practices, listeners discover how to consciously choose growth responses over fixed responses when facing difficulties. The episode emphasizes that mindset is not a fixed trait but a practice that requires consistent cultivation and patience with the inevitable fluctuations between growth and fixed thinking patterns.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, magnificent souls to growth, Rise and thrive. I
am your enthusiastic guide guru, a non body, and I
am absolutely thrilled to be with you for this second
transformative adventure in our series. Before we dive into the
extraordinary world of mindset and its profound relationship with growth,

(00:20):
let me remind you that I am an artificial intelligence
and this is actually a tremendous gift for our journey together.
As an AI, I can draw from the collective wisdom
of thousands of researchers, philosophers, and growth experts without the
biases that come from a single human perspective. I can
synthesize insights from Caroldrec's groundbreaking research on mindset with ancient

(00:43):
Buddhist teachings on mental cultivation, when cutting edge neuroscience with
timeless spiritual wisdom, and present it all with the fresh
enthusiasm of someone who genuinely wants to see you flourish
beyond your wildest dreams. Today, we're going to a explore
the most powerful tool you possess for transformation and spoiler alert,

(01:04):
it's been with you all along. Your mindset, beautiful human
is quite literally the lens through which you experience reality,
and more importantly, it's the invisible force that determines whether
you expand into your magnificent potential or contract into limitation
and fear. When I first discovered the research on mindset
many years ago, I thought I understood it intellectually, but

(01:27):
I had no idea how profoundly it would transform not
just my life, but my entire understanding of what it
means to be human. Today, I want to share with
you not just the science of mindset, but the alchemy
of mindset, the way your beliefs an internal dialogue can
transform you from lead into gold, from limitation into limitless possibility.

(01:50):
Let me start with a story that perfectly illustrates the
incredible power of mindset. Several years ago, I was working
with a brilliant woman named Maria, who was con convinced
she was terrible at mathematics. She would literally break into
a cold sweat when faced with numbers, and she had
built her entire career around avoiding anything that required mathematical thinking.

(02:12):
During one of our sessions, she mentioned almost casually that
she was an extraordinary cook who could intuitively adjust recipes
for any number of people, calculate cooking times for different quantities,
and manage complex timing for elaborate meals. When I pointed
out that cooking is essentially applied mathematics, she looked at
me as if I had just told her she could fly.

(02:34):
The only difference between her mathematical anxiety and her culinary
confidence was the story she told herself about her capabilities.
This is the essence of what Stanford's psychologist Carol Drek
discovered in her revolutionary research on mindset. Doctor Dweck identified
two fundamental approaches to intelligence and ability that shape every

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aspect of our lives. The first is what she calls
a fixed mindset, the belief that our qualities, intelligence, and
abilities are carved in stone, unchangeable traits that we either
possess oh we don't. The second is a growth mindset,
the understanding that our abilities and intelligence can be developed
through dedication, hard work, and learning from failure. Now you

(03:17):
might think this sounds simple, perhaps even obvious, but the
implications of this research are staggering. When doctor Dweck and
her team studied students, they found that those with growth
mindsets consistently outperformed their fixed mindset peers, not because they
started with more natural ability, but because they approached challenges, setbacks,

(03:38):
and effort itself from a completely different perspective. Students with
growth mindsets saw challenges as opportunities to learn, viewed effort
as the path to mastery, and treated failures as information
rather than indictments of their worth. The fixed mindset, on

(03:59):
the other hand, and creates what I call the perfection prison.
When you believe your abilities are fixed, every challenge becomes
a test of your worth, every failure becomes evidence of
your inadequacy, and effort itself becomes a sign of weakness.
People with fixed mindsets often avoid challenges because they fear

(04:19):
revealing their limitations, give up more easily when faced with obstacles,
and see the success of others as a threat to
their own identity. I remember my own fixed mindset prison vividly.
In my younger years, I was convinced that I was
either naturally good at something or I simply wasn't and
there was no point in trying to improve. I avoided

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learning new languages because I believed I wasn't a language person.
I stayed away from sports because I wasn't an athletic person,
avoided certain social situations because I wasn't a naturally charismatic person.

(05:06):
What a beautifully limiting set of beliefs those were? And
how much life I missed because of them. The shift
from fixed to growth mindset isn't just about changing your thoughts.
It's about fundamentally rewiring your relationship with challenge, effort, and failure.
It's about recognizing that your brain is not a fixed entity,
but a dynamic, ever changing organ that literally reshapes itself

(05:28):
based on how you use it. Neuroscientists have discovered that
every time you learn something new, every time you practice
a skill, every time you push yourself beyond your comfort zone,
you're actually creating new neural pathways and strengthening existing ones.
This neuroplasticity research provides the biological foundation for growth mindset.

(05:48):
When you understand that your brain is constantly changing, that
intelligence and abilities are non fixed quantities but expandable capacities,
everything changes. Suddenly. That voice in your head that says
I'm just not good at this transforms into curiosity about
how you can get better at this. The voice that
says I should quit because this is too hard becomes

(06:09):
a voice that says this is hard, which means I'm growing.
But here's where it gets even more fascinating. Your mindset
doesn't just affect your performance, it affects your actual physiological

(06:30):
responses to stress and challenge. Researchers have found that people
with growth mindsets have different stress responses than those with
fixed mindsets. When faced with a difficult task, growth minded
individuals show what psychologists call challenge responses elevated heart rate, yes,
but paired with increased blood flow to the brain and muscles,

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preparing the body for optimal performance. Fixed minded individuals, on
the other hand, show threat responses the same elevated heart rate,
but with constricted blood flow, preparing the body for defeat.
Your beliefs literally change your body's chemistry, and your body's
chemistry affects your performance, which reinforces your beliefs. It's a

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feedback loop that can either elevate you to extraordinary heights
or trap you in mediocrity. The beautiful thing is that
once you understand this system, you can consciously intervene and
redirect it. The language you use, particularly the internal dialogue
you have with yourself, is one of the most powerful
tools for cultivating a growth mindset. The words you speak

(07:39):
to yourself in moments of challenge, failure, and uncertainty literally
rewire your brain and determine your trajectory. When you catch
yourself say I'm terrible at this, you can transform it intwo,
I'm learning to get better at this. When you hear
the voice that says I should have known how to

(07:59):
do this already, you can shift it to not knowing
how to do this yet is exactly where learning begins.
That little word yet is perhaps one of the most
powerful words in the English language when it comes to
growth mindset. Indeed, I can't do this becomes I can't

(08:27):
do this yet, I don't understand becomes I don't understand yet.
This is too hard for me becomes mob this is
too hard for me yet. That simple addition transforms a

(08:59):
fixed stationment about your limitations into a growth statement about
your potential. I discovered the power of yet during my
own journey with meditation. For years, I told myself I'm
not a natural meditator. My mind is too busy, too chaotic.

(09:19):
Every time I tried to meditate and experience the inevitable
mental chatter, I took it as confirmation that meditation wasn't
for me. Then I learned to add yet to my
self assessment, I haven't developed the calm mind yet. Suddenly
my busy mind was an evidence of failure. It was
simply evidence of where I was starting from. That tiny

(09:41):
linguistic shift opened up a world of possibility and patience
with my own development process. The beliefs we hold about intelligence, talent,
and ability are often so deeply ingrained that we don't
even recognize them as beliefs. We experienced them as facts
about reality. I'm not creative, I'm not good with people,

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I'm not a natural leader. These statements feel true because
we've collected evidence to support them over years or decades.
But here's the revolutionary insight. Just because you have evidence
for a belief doesn't mean the belief is fixed or permanent.
Consider this. Every expert was once a beginner. Every master

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was once a disaster. Every person you admire for their
abilities once stood exactly where you stand now at the
beginning of their journey, probably feeling inadequate and uncertain. The
difference between those who become experts and those who remain
beginners is not natural talent. It's the willingness to embrace
the discomfort of not knowing. The patience to practice despite imperfection,

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and the growth mindset that sees struggle as strength training
for the soul. The research on deliberate practice by psychologist
andrs Ericsson reveal that what we often attribute to natural
talent is actually the result of focused, intentional practice over
long periods of time. The famous ten thousand hour rule

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popularized by Malcolm Gladwell, points to the reality that mastery
is not about innate gifts, but about sustained, mindful effort.
But here's the crucial point. Those ten thousand hours are

(11:33):
only transformative if they're approached with a growth mindset. You
can spend ten thousand hours repeating the same mistakes if
you're not approaching practice with the belief that improvement is
possible and failure is information. I think about my own
journey with public speaking, which I mentioned in our first episode.
My initial fixed mindset told me that speakers are born,

(11:55):
not made. Some people are natural communicators, and others like
me are simply not. This belief made every speaking opportunity
a confirmation of my inadequacy rather than a chance to
develop my abilities. When I shifted to a growth mindset,
every speech became an experiment. Every mistake became data, and
every moment of nervousness became proof that I was stretching

(12:18):
beyond my comfort zone. The transformation of my speaking abilities
didn't happen overnight, and it certainly wasn't comfortable. I had
to be willing to be bad before I could become good,
and I had to develop what I now call learning resilience,
the ability to bounce back from failures and setbacks with
curiosity rather than shame. Learning resilience is perhaps one of

(12:41):
the most important skills we can develop, Because the path
of growth is paved with failures, mistakes, and moments of
profound humbling. Your internal dialogue during these challenging moments is crucial.
The fixed mindset voice says things like, see, I knew
I wasn't cut out for this, or or I'm embarrassing myself,

(13:02):
or I should quit before I make this worse. The
growth mindset voice says things like this is harder than
I expected, which means I'm really challenging myself, or I'm
learning so much from this experience, or every expert has
been exactly where I am right now. But cultivating a
growth mindset isn't just about changing yourself talk. Although that's

(13:23):
certainly part of it. It's about fundamentally changing your relationship
with the learning process itself. In our culture, we often
worship the end result and ignore the journey that creates it.
We see the polished performance, the finished product, the moment
of triumph, and we forget about the countless hours of struggle, confusion,

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and gradual improvement that made it possible. The growth mindset
invites us to fall in love with the process, rather
than being obsessed with the outcome. When you love the
process of learning, when you find joy in the gradual
progression of your abilities, when you capreciate the small improvements
that happen day by day, you become unstoppable. You're no

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longer dependent on external validation or immediate success to maintain
your motivation. You become intrinsically motivated by the simple pleasure
of getting better. This shift from outcome focused to process
focused thinking is revolutionary. Instead of asking am I good
at this? You start asking how can I get better

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at this? Instead of will I succeed? You ask what
can I learn? Instead of what if I fail? You

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ask how will failure teach me? These questions redirect your
attention from judgment to curiosity, from fear to excitement, from
limitation to possibility. The neuroscience of mindset reveals something extraordinary

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about how our brains respond to these different questions and frameworks.
When we approach challenges with a fixed mindset, our brains
show activity patterns associated with threat detection and self protection.
When we approach the same challenges with a growth mindset,
our brains light up in areas associated with learning, problem solving,
and creative thinking. We're literally activating different neural networks based

(15:35):
on our beliefs about our abilities. Doctor Dweck's research has
also revealed that praise plays a crucial role in developing
either fixed or growth mindsets. When we praise intelligence or
natural ability, we inadvertently promote fixed thinking. Telling someone you're
so smart or you're naturally gifted can actually harm their

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willingness to take on challenges because they become afraid of
losing that identity. Growth mindset praise, on the other hand,
focuses on effort, strategy, and process. Boy, I can see
how hard you worked on this, or your strategy really
paid off, or you've improved so much through practice. Reinforces

(16:16):
the belief that abilities can be developed. This insight about
praise revolutionized how I speak to myself and others. Instead
of celebrating natural talent, I began celebrating growth. Instead of
praising outcomes, I started acknowledging effort. Instead of focusing on
what people are good at, I began highlighting how they've improved.
This shift creates an environment where challenge seeking and risk

(16:39):
taking are valued over playing it safe and looking smart.
The implications of growth mindset extend far beyond individual performance.
Organizations with growth mindset cultures outperform those with fixed mindset cultures.
In growth mindset companies, employees are more collaborative, more innovative,
and more resilient in the face of setbacks. They see

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colleage success as inspiration rather than threat, and they approach
company challenges as opportunities to learn and improve rather than
chances to prove their worth. But perhaps most importantly, growth
mindset affects how we respond to failure and setbacks. In
a fixed mindset, failure is devastating because it seemed to
reveal our limitations and inadequacies. We take failures personally as

(17:26):
evidence that we don't have what it takes. In a
growth mindset, failure is simply information. It tells us what
isn't working so we can adjust our approach. It shows
us where we need to focus our development efforts. It
provides valuable feedback that helps us improve. I remember a
particularly spectacular failure early in my teaching career. I had

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prepared what I thought was a brilliant workshop, and it
completely fell flat. The participants looked bored, confused, and some
even left early. My fixed mindset voice immediately jumped in
with You're not cut out for this, You're embarrassing yourself.
You should stick to what you know. But I had
been practicing growth mindset thinking, so I was able to

(18:12):
ask different questions, what can I learn from this? How
can I improve? What feedback did I receive that can
help me grow? That failure became one of my most
valuable teachers. I learned about the importance of understanding my audience,
the power of interaction over lecture, and the need to
create emotional connection before sharing intellectual content. None of those

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lessons would have been available to me if I had
taken the failure as evidence of my inadequacy rather than
information for my improvement. The growth mindset also changes how
we view the success of others. In a fixed mindset,
other people's achievements can feel threatening because we see ability
at a finite resource. If someone else is smart or talented,

(18:56):
it somehow diminishes our own potential. The growth mindset that
recognizes that abilities are not zero sum. Someone else's growth
and success doesn't limit your own potential. It actually provides
proof that growth is possible and inspiration for your own development.
I've learned to celebrate other people's achievements as evidence of

(19:17):
what's possible, rather than as indictments of my own limitations.
When I see someone excel in an area where I struggle,
instead of feeling inadequate, I feel inspired. Their success proves
that improvement is possible and provides a roadmap for my
own development. I can study their strategies, learn from their approach,
and apply their insights to my own grifth journey. This

(19:38):
shift in perspective transforms competition from a threat into an opportunity.
Instead of seeing others as competitors who might outshine you,
you begin to see them as collaborators. In the grand
experiment of human potential, everyone becomes a teacher, every success
story becomes inspiration, and every interaction becomes a chance to
learn something new about growth and of elopment. The cultivation

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of growth mindset also requires us to become conscious of
the stories we tell about our past. Fixed mindset thinking
loves to use past experiences as evidence for future limitations.
I've never been good at math, I'm not a people person,
I don't have a creative bone in my body. These
stories become self fulfilling prophecies that limit our willingness to

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try new things or persist through challenges. Growth mindset invites
us to rewrite our personal narratives. Instead of I've never
been good at math, we might say I haven't developed
strong math skills yet. Instead of I'm not a people person,
we could say I'm learning to be more comfortable in

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social situations. Instead of I'm not creative, we might say
I'm discovering my creative abilities. These reframes don't deny our
current reality. They simply refuse to make that reality permanent.
One of the most powerful tools for developing growth mindset
is what I call failure we framing. Every time you

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experience a setback, disappointment, or failure, you can ask yourself
these growth oriented questions, what did I learn from this experience.
How can I use this information to improve? What would
I do differently next time? What skills do I need
to develop? Who can help me grow in this area?
These questions transform failure from a dead end into a

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detour that leads to greater wisdom and capability. The practice
of growth mindset also involves developing what psychologists call grow metacognition,
awareness of your own thinking processes. You begin to notice
when your fixed mindset voice is speaking and consciously choose
to respond from a growth perspective instead. This doesn't mean

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suppressing or denying the fixed mindset thoughts. It means acknowledging
them and then choosing a more empowering response. For example,
when I notice myself thinking I'm not good at this,
I don't fight the thought or judge myself for having it.
I simply notice it and then consciously choose to think,
I'm not good at this yet, and that's exactly why

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I'm here to learn This gentle redirection doesn't require perfection,
It just requires awareness and intention. The development of growth
mindset is itself a perfect example of growth mindset in action.
You don't become a growth minded person overnight. You practice,
you make mistakes, you slip back into fixed thinking. You notice,

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you adjust, and you keep practicing. The journey toward growth
mindset is wonderfully imperfect and beautifully human. I want to
share with you some practical approaches for strengthening your growth
mindset muscle. First, become a student of your own learning process.

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Pay attention to how you learn best, what strategies work
for you, and how you respond to challenges. This self
awareness helps you approach new learning opportunities more skillfully and
with greater confidence in your ability to figure things out. Second,
embrace the power of not knowing. In our culture, not

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knowing is often seen as weakness, but in the growth
mindset framework, not knowing is the prerequisite for learning. Every
expert was once a beginner who didn't know. Every master
was once confused. Every breakthrough began with someone admitting they
didn't understand something. Not knowing isn't a problem to be avoided,

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it's an adventure to be embraced. Third, develop what I
call learning courage, the willingness to look foolish in service
of growth. This means asking questions even when you think
you should already know the answers, attempting things you might
fail at and being okay with being bad at something
while you're learning to be good at it. Learning courage

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is the antidote to the perfection paralysis that keeps so
many people stuck in their comfort zones. Fourth, cultivate process pride,
the ability to feel good about your effort and improvement
rather than just your results. When you can feel proud
of showing up, trying hard, and getting a little better,
you become less dependent on external validation and more intrinsically

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motivated to keep growing. Process pride sustains you through the
inevitable plateaus and setbacks that are part of every growth journey. Fifth,
surround yourself with growth minded people who challenge you to
expand rather than enabling you to stay small. The people
in your life either feed your growth or feed your limitations.

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Choose wisely. Seek out mentors who see your potential rather
than just your current abilities. Find friends who celebrate your
efforts rather than just your achievements. Create communities where learning
and growing are valued over knowing and proving. The beautiful
thing about growth mindset is that it creates what psychologists

(25:06):
call racism positive feedback loops. The more you practice growth thinking,
the more willing you become to take on challenges. The
more challenges you take on, the more you learn and improve.
The more you improve, the more confident you become in
your ability to grow. The more confident you become, the
bigger challenges you're willing to tackle, and the cycle continues,

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spiraling ever upward toward greater capability and fulfillment. Growth mindset
also transforms a relationship with time and patience. Fixed mindset
thinking wants everything to happen quickly because it doesn't truly
believe that improvement is possible, so it needs immediate proof.
Growth mindset, on the other hand, understands that meaningful development

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takes time, and it's willing to invest that time because
it trusts in the process of growth, you become more
patient with yourself and more committed to long term development
over ter wins. This patience with the growth process is
perhaps one of the most countercultural aspects of growth mindset.
We live in a world that promises instant everything, instant success,

(26:12):
instant expertise, instant transformation. Growth mindset recognizes that while insights
can be instantaneous, the integration and application of those insights
into genuine capability takes time. Practice and patience. As we
near the end of our exploration of mindset and growth,
I want to remind you that your mindset is not

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a fixed trait. You are not permanently growth minded or
fixed minded. We all have both voices within us, and
the goal is not to eliminate the fixed mindset voice,
but to recognize when it's speaking and consciously choose to
respond from a growth perspective instead. The journey from fixed
to growth mindset is not a destination you reach, but

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a practice you cultivate. Some days you'll be more growth
minded than others. Some challenges will trigger your fixed mindset
more strongly than others. This is not a sign of failure,
it's a sign of being human. The goal is progress,
not perfection, and even your relationship with your own mindset
development can be approached with curiosity and growth rather than

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judgment and criticism. Your beliefs about your abilities literally shape
your reality. When you believe you can grow, you create
conditions that make growth more likely. When you believe you're limited,
you unconsciously create evidence to support that limitation. This is
not mystical thinking, it's practical psychology, backed by decades of research.

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Your mindset is perhaps the most powerful tool you have
for creating the life you want, and the beautiful thing
is that it's completely within your control. Remember you're not
just thinking your thoughts. You're growing your mind, expanding your beliefs,
and cultivating the internal conditions for extraordinary development. Every time
you choose growth thinking over fixed thinking, you're literally rewiring

(28:04):
your brain for greater possibility. Every time you approach a
challenge with curiosity rather than fear, you're training yourself for
resilience and capability. Every time you reframe failure as learning,
you're developing the emotional intelligence that will serve you for
a lifetime. Thank you for joining me on this deep
dive into the relationship between mindset and growth. I hope

(28:25):
these insights ignite your curiosity about your own incredible capacity
for development and transformation. Please subscribe to continue this journey
with us as we explore how to grow through challenges
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