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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, hello there, gunfighters.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I thought we would do something a little bit different today.
I do a lot of polls on Patreon and the
group chat just on the Patreon page about a bunch
of topics, some serious.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Some just fun, just to have fun.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So I thought I would go through those and discuss
those with you guys that broader audience. And just a reminder,
if you want to be more of an interactive part
or take part in these polls, go to Patreon. There
should be a Patreon link in the show notes. That's
what we're going to talk about today, though. The different
polls anything from best survival calibers or go to survival calibers,
(00:39):
to how much Ammo is enough Ammo the most American
Fourth of July food.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's just some fun stuff. So that's we're going to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Talk about today, A very very varied episode. Welcome to
Gunfighter Life, the podcast where we talk about guns, gun fighting, tactics, ballistics,
and all kinds of adjacent stuff the right way, with
all Mighty God at the center, Judeo Christian values and
real world firsthand experience. I'm blessed to serve you as
(01:09):
host Biolink.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
In the show notes.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, let's get into it. What started this was
I was checking up on a pole that I put
out for today. I'd like to put out stuff for
the patrons to keep interactive with them and to get
a pulse, get a finger on the pulse of what
the audience kind of wants, what the patrons wants, and
stay do a lot to support the podcast. This one
was entitled caliber and gage, and this one was, well,
(01:38):
let me just read it for you guys, since I
haven't pulled up here. The balloon goes up where you
are with the guns you have now, so not some
ethereal thing of like maybe one day I'll have this
dream gun. If the balloon goes up now, with the
guns you have now, what caliber gauge for long gun
(02:00):
would be your go to if you had to bug
out and only take one? Kind of that different take
on the one gun philosophy there. So let's take a
look at that. The options I posted on there were
twenty two long rifle nine millimeter, three fifty seven magnum
two two three, three, oh we eight and twelve gauge.
(02:22):
The results are dun da da na as it stands
right now, because the polling is still open twenty two
long rifle seventeen percent of the vote, nine millimeter seventeen
percent of the vote, three oh eight thirty three percent
of the vote, and twelve gauge thirty three percent of
the vote. So there you have it. It's settled science.
(02:46):
The three oh weight and the twelve gauge are the
best survival bug out one gun options. No, but seriously,
this is where you are in your area. So you
may have a good reason why you'd pick the twenty
two long rifle. You may have a good reason that
you pick the nine millimeter, Like you live in Canada, right,
and so it depends on you. I'm not pretending to
have so much hubris that I think I know what's
(03:08):
best for you. But these are just what the poll
numbers say. So with that, I may do an episode
because I've done many on survival shotguns, maybe I will
do one on go to survival three owaits or different
really good options for three awaits for survival. I think
(03:29):
that'd be a pretty cool episode. I've got it in
notes of things to talk about. That's one of the
ways that you guys help me help you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The people on.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Patreon shape the direction of the podcast, so here is one.
I just try to get a finger on the pulse
for you guys on how I should look at the
Patreon fund. And this is not a shot, but just
an idea of what you guys are interested in. I've
been blessed to be working two jobs and doing the
private security contracting work, which which I'm blessed pays very
(03:57):
very well, so I haven't dipped into the Patreon fun
for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's just kind of been accumulating.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Now there are costs associated with putting on the podcast
and getting it put out there that does cost money,
so I've just been paying for that. But some of
this money's been accumulating. And I was just curious how
you guys would be interested what gun projects you guys
would be interested in. So the options were modern pccs,
what a modern pistol caliber carbine, big bore revolver, Ultimate
(04:26):
Striker fire project like building the Ultimate Striker fire the
Bretta ninety two X compared to the two twenty six,
because you guys know, one of my go to carry
guns is a sig two twenty six single action only,
and I have a Burretta, a Wilson Combat Bretta ninety
two g Brigadier, which is a fantastic gum, but it's
not going to keep up with a single action only.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So if I wanted to compare, I might have to
get a single action only thumb safety like the two
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
The thing about comparing those.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The thirteen oh one versus the Benelli, similar kind of thing,
I'm a I'm a Benelli, but with a thirteen oh one,
maybe getting one and running it like a thirteen oh
one versus a benelam two. A reloading setup for content,
like getting back into reloading now that I have a
more stationary place to stay, God willing for the time
(05:15):
being where I can get back into reloading. And then
ultimate Western Rifle a ten millimeter practical pistol, so an
actual practical ten milimeter CMP service rifle will build and
other So the winner was Donta da Da Surprisingly to me,
(05:35):
Bretta ninety two X compared to the SIG two twenty six.
That's the winner so far, and not by a large margin.
The next one was set up reloading setup for content,
so the main one was the Breda versus the SIG
and then reloading setup and then big Bore Revolver and
Modern PCC got a few votes, and everything else was
(05:58):
trailing behind those. So just again trying to get my
finger on the pulse of what you guys are actually
interested in, what you want. Another one that I recently
put out just to see what you guys thought. Number
of rounds on your person. So this would be like
a carry load out, your EDC load out. How many
(06:18):
rounds do you consider enough? And the way I phrased
it was with less than that you would feel undergun
So what number would you feel undergune if you had
less than this amount?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Fifty or more?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Forty thirty, twenty, fifteen, ten or five I didn't even
consider like a dare injurer with two rounds, but a
five being like a classic jframe, and you know, fifty
or more being like more like a police load out
forty to fifty. So the vast, vast majority this one
was a pretty clear winner was twenty twenty was the
(06:52):
number where people felt like, twenty rounds, I have enough rounds,
and I would I I think I would kind of
agree with that. Maybe I would go thirty, or maybe
I would even go fifteen, as long as I had
two magazines that's the big caveat I would not. I
would rather have fifteen rounds spread out over two magazines
(07:14):
than twenty rounds in one magazine, because magazine's malfunction. Magazines
also fall out. When you're running, jumping and doing things
like that and you go to play, you're gonna you
have no rounds in the gun and you don't have
a spare mag So I would be more comfortable with
fifteen with two magazines than I would with twenty or
thirty in one magazine. So yeah, I can kind of
(07:35):
see that. But the winner there clearly was twenty rounds.
People thought twenty rounds was they had an adequate number
of rounds in less than that they would feel undergunned. Now,
this next one is a just kind of a fun
pole that I put out. I like that fun with
the patrons. They do a lot to help me out,
so I like to have fun with them. And this
one was retro apocalypse. If you were heading into the apocalypse,
(08:02):
appropriate kit, meaning like the side arm, the long gun,
and the webgear and stuff that goes with it. Would
you rather have a World War One load out nineteen
oh three or nineteen seventeen and a nineteen eleven World
War Two era load out and M one grand at
a nineteen eleven Nom Vietnam, an M sixteen A one
(08:26):
and A nineteen eleven nineteen eleven is a long run
and long running guy here OIF one Operation Iraqi Freedom,
of which I was part of, an M sixteen A
two and a Beretta M nine or now the M
four and the M seventeen, M eighteen kind of a
cool little thing, right, if you had to head out
(08:46):
into the apocalypse, which one of these would you pick?
So nine percent was the World War One load out
on nineteen oh three and A nineteen eleven. Now there's
some real merit here because nineteen oh three was our
last bolt action operated mainline issue infantry weapon or the
nineteen seventeen. Now you could sit here and argue, I
(09:08):
kind of like the nineteen oh three. I'm more of
a I've done a lot of bullseye target shooting.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I compete in CMP.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I've done a lot of that more precision iron sight
shooting in the past. I like the nineteen oh three,
But you could argue that the nineteen seventeen in field,
which of which we issued in greater numbers than our
actual service gun is a better combat gun. It's a
little bit faster. I think it's a cock one close.
But the nineteen oh three or the nineteen seventeen and
in nineteen eleven, you know, even going back to World
(09:38):
War One, well over one hundred years ago, that'd be
a pretty good loadout. You could do a lot worse today.
I would take that over some hashtag me too straight
blowback nine millimeters PCC that weighs as much as a
modern fighting rifle that's in a pistol caliber. So I
think you could do a lot worse than a World
War One loadout. And if you said that's what I
(09:59):
had to take, I'd like, fine, I'll make it work.
I can rock at nineteen eleven. And I actually kind
of like the original World War One can figure nineteen
eleven better than the later versions, some of them except
for the sites, So it's a good loadout.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now. The World War two m one garand in the nineteen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Eleven, yeah, you got you got m block clips, right,
so you got clips instead of magazines. But still, I
mean you can reload those real quick. I personally can't
because I don't shoot them all the time. I don't
compete with them. I don't shoot them. But if you
get good with them, and if this is gonna be
my apocalypisode out, you'd better believe I'd be practicing. You
(10:37):
can get really fast with those. So the M one
garan still the thirty six and A nineteen eleven. It's
not a bad choice. I also got nine percent of
the vote. Now this one kind of surprised me. Now
I'm the M sixteen eight one in the nineteen eleven
eighteen percent. I like the M sixteen A one. I
think for this the M sixteen A one is probably
(10:58):
the best, assuming you got a new one like not
and you couldn't get any of these because an actual
M sixteen eight one is flaudo, but assuming you got
an exact clone of a brand new gun that was
made to original military specifications. I liked the M sixteen
A one, kind of the best of the M sixteen
M four configurations. It's got a twenty inch barrel, it's
(11:19):
got good decent combat iron sights. It doesn't have as
good of target sites, but it has really good combat
sites max point blank range, sturdy, and it's lightweight. It's
got a pencil barrel, which if I'm not doing mag dumps,
is great because I save on weight. I think the
M sixteen A one was maybe the best of the
(11:39):
M sixteen AR fifteen family that we've ever fielded. You
could disagree with me on that, but I like the
M sixteen eight one. It's basic, it's effective, it's lightweight,
and the nineteen eleven kind of an odd pairing because
you have the lightweight, high velocity and then you have
the low capacity, heavyweight heavy hitter and a pistol caliber
(11:59):
of the nineteen eleven kind of a weird pairing one
of the reasons I probably wouldn't go for it. But
I do like the M sixteen A one OIF one,
the M sixteen A two, and the Bretta M nine.
This was the winner, kind of surprisingly now, the M
sixteen A two, in my opinion, was a little bit
of a step in the wrong direction for combat. So
(12:20):
also so Free Apocalypse as well. It's got a heavier barrel.
It's a better target gun, but perhaps a better gun
if you're dumping magazine full auto. But I don't see
either one of those things being really relevant. I would
rather save the weight and have the M sixteen A
one pencil barrel, and although the sites are more refined
(12:41):
on the A two, they're also more complicated, more moving parts.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
But it's a good gun. It's a good rifle.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I qualified expert with it in the Marine Corps shot
you know, mansie silhouettes out the five hundred and fifty
yards or five hundred meters. But in combat, I don't
really ever see that being applied, where you're slow firing,
getting hasty slang, getting in a good prone position, testing
your natural point of aim. It just takes too long
for real life.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
For combat.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're probably firing for effect, walking rounds on target, things
like that if you're firing that far away. But it's
a good rifle, a little bit heavier than it needs
to be, but a good rifle. And the M nine
and I have said that the M nine is the
best combat handgun ever fielded in mass period, and I
stand by that. It may be controversial. Some people hate
(13:27):
the M nine and I did too, actually when I
was in the Marine Corps because I wasn't a very
good pistol shooter. So I blamed it on the gun
and I got out and I shot a bunch of
other handguns and actually got some actual training and shot
competition with a handgun, I realized it was me and
the M nine or bread At ninety two is a fine,
fine weapon, so I liked that one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That was the winner of the poll.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And the other choice was the M four and the
M seventeen M eighteen. Now I'm not gonna craple on
the M seventeen and eighteen. It's a decent gun. It's
a polymer striker fired handgun, so I don't think it's
as refiner elegant as a ninety two, but it's a
good effective handgun. That might be controversial, but I'll stand
by that as well.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And the M four.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
M four is a little bit shorter, so if you
lived in an urban environment, you might go with the
M four. Not that you can't clear rooms with a
twenty inch barrel, we certainly did it in the Marine Corps,
but the M four it's not a bad compromise over
the M four. If you're talking about a government profile barrel,
unless you're shooting an M two or three or NAD launcher,
you probably don't want the government profile barrel. And it
seems a bit silly, but still it's a good option.
(14:33):
So I'm kind of surprised that one didn't win. Is
that surprising that people are more confident in the older
load out from twenty years ago than the newer one?
Has it really twenty years since? Yeah, it's more than
twenty years since I crossed the border into Iraq?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, So just some thoughts there in a fun poll
retro apocalypse. What would you pick bet you didn't know
you were going to get a quiz today on the podcast?
How about a hippie quiz? A hippie test? Are you
a hippie? Or what do you think makes a hippie?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is just again, It's just a fun pole that
I have fun with the guys. How many of these
things before you think someone is a hippie? What do
you think here? Let me give you the the choices.
How many of these things make somebody a hippie? Tied
die vespa sandals all year long, a hemp hoodie, shops
(15:29):
in an organic section. Peace sign pin like a pin
with a peace sign on it smells like marijuana, granola
as a go to snack, dreadlocks any I forgot leaving
the comments. I just again just a fun pole, guys.
(15:54):
Now twenty five percent said any of them. Don't be fooled.
The winner was sixty three percent two or more. So
if you have if you check two or more of
those boxes, you may be a hippie. Thirteen percent said
three or more, and nobody said you had to have
all of them. Now, my wife jokingly refers to me
sometimes as a hippie with a gun. So I'm gonna
(16:15):
disagree with the only one right because I'll straight up
go out slay a elk and eat it, slay a
deer and eat it. I got no problem with that, right.
I love doing. That's one of my one of the
reasons I live where I live. But uh, I'm also
kind of I like to eat clean. I would rather
eat clean, healthy meat than something that was fed GMO corn.
(16:39):
Does that make me a hippi? If I'd rather have
grass fed steak? So you know, there is that, And uh,
I don't know if that makes me a hippie. Maybe
I am. And here's the other thing I wanted to say.
There's nothing wrong with being hippie. There's no use that
shall not be a hippie.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
If you love God, love Jesus and you and you, Uh,
that's all that matters. Right, You could still be a
hippie and be into guns. You could be into all
kinds of other stuff if you're if you believe Jesus
is the son of God and die for your sins,
like you're my brother in Christ, hippi or no hippie,
(17:17):
like I consider my brother in Christ if you're a
hippie Christian rather than somebody that wears a grunt style
T shirt. I don't do that, by the way, and
drinks you know, some tactical coffee brand and and uh,
you know has tons of guns. But you don't believe
in Jesus, then you're not my brother in Christ. So
that's more important. So nothing wrong with hippies. Yeah, so
(17:39):
there's that. Now here's one I did of training or competition.
What are you guys doing as far as training and
competition goes, I consider you guys more serious about guns
than the average owner. I am wondering how many pay
attention to formal training or plan to attend formal training
(18:01):
this year or formal competition. I don't think I can
see who votes for what, so be honest, I just
want an idea of the audience. Formal meaning being paid,
not from a friend or relative training competition meaning a
formal pay to play competition.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And you can collect multiple that apply.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So for this again, kind of I would consider the
audience more into guns and more hardcore and serious about
guns in the average obviously than the average American or
probably than the average podcast listener, because that's kind of
the niche that we have here. And you're welcome if
you've never even shot a gun before. But I would
think it's a little bit different demographic. So no formal
(18:45):
training or competition was.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The winner.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Sadly the vast majority, or not the vast majority, but
the majority. The majority said no formal training or competition
this year, and then less than that, but the second
most popular competition plans, and then after that was formal
training plans. Let me just use this to spank your
(19:17):
heini a little bit, because I love you. This is
gonna hurt you more than it's gonna hurt me. Get
out there and shoot training or competition if you're not,
If you're serious about shooting, right, take a formal training class.
I don't care if you've been shooting for twenty years.
You don't know what you don't know. And although I'm
a little bit jaded on YouTube recently, and I've been
(19:37):
fasting it for quite a while, and I don't really
miss it, to be honest with you, YouTube is good
for some stuff. It's not good for being great at shooting.
You can learn some stuff, but you have to do it.
You're far better off getting formal training if you've never
had formal training. And I'm not talking about an uncle
a cousin. It's just a different dynamic. I don't care
if your uncle is. You know, a competition winning handgun shooter.
(20:03):
Get paid formal training from a paid formal class and
good competition. Competition is like the honing stone that keeps
you sharp, that pushes you, because you'll get lazy. I
went a little while without shooting like still challenge competition,
and I had regressed quite a bit in my grip
because I can shoot fast anyway, but I can't shoot
(20:24):
as fast as I can with a good hardcore like
coal into Diamond's grip on that pistol, and I'd gotten
lazy on that. We're all subject to it. So competition, again,
I would call it that honing stone that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Keeps you sharp.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So I would really really encourage you to look at
training or competition this next year or this year, well,
you know, three hundred and sixty five days from today.
Look at that. If you already have a couple of
guns instead of maybe just buying another gun, if you're
not doing training and competition, do training and competition, and
(20:59):
or they're both really good. You don't know what you
don't know?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Since that last was a little bit of tough love,
We're gonna end on a real fun one, just you know,
settled science, no debate, most American Fourth of July food.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
But before I.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Do, I just want to encourage you consider becoming a patron.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Some men just want to be a passive part of this.
They don't want any input, they don't care what content is,
they don't want to support in any way. They just
want to be a passive listener. If you're that kind
of guy, you just want to be a passive listener.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay. But if you do, in fact.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Want to say in the kind of content, and do
want a voice and want to support the podcast because
you get something out of it and you think it's
worth something. There's a lot of different ways that Patreon
supports the podcast. The Big Ones is just encouraging. It's
encouraging to know that people actually listening care about the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Before I got my.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
First patroon, I was doing a couple of Gunfighter Life
episodes a year instead of a week. So it's just
nice to know that somebody cares. So if you care,
consider becoming a patron all right, So with that, the
most American Fourth of July food, and let's just see here,
(22:24):
what did you guys pick for the most American Fourth
of July food? The options were hamburger, hot dog, steak, ribs,
fried chicken, apple pie, ice cream, watermelon, strawberry shortcake, biscuits, rolls, potato, salad,
other all right, So I want to pick a couple
(22:45):
of different categories because obviously you've got like your main course,
your meat. Then you've got carbs if you want to
eat carbs, and then you have a dessert. So the
most American food for Fourth of July hamburger, and then for.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The starch.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
For the carbs, we have biscuits, and then for dessert
we have apple pie. The most American Fourth of July
meal then is hamburgers, biscuits, and apple pie. Pretty neat.
I actually voted for steak, so maybe they're all wrong,
(23:28):
but the most American Fourth of July food, how about that? Hey, guys, thanks,
I hope you enjoyed this kind of different episode, just
on medley of different stuff. I appreciate you, guys, patron
or not, I appreciate you. Thank you for listening, and
have a blessed day.
Well, hello there, gunfighters.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I thought we would do something a little bit different today.
I do a lot of polls on Patreon and the
group chat just on the Patreon page about a bunch
of topics, some serious.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Some just fun, just to have fun.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So I thought I would go through those and discuss
those with you guys that broader audience. And just a reminder,
if you want to be more of an interactive part
or take part in these polls, go to Patreon. There
should be a Patreon link in the show notes. That's
what we're going to talk about today, though. The different
polls anything from best survival calibers or go to survival calibers,
(00:39):
to how much Ammo is enough Ammo the most American
Fourth of July food.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's just some fun stuff. So that's we're going to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Talk about today, A very very varied episode. Welcome to
Gunfighter Life, the podcast where we talk about guns, gun fighting, tactics, ballistics,
and all kinds of adjacent stuff the right way, with
all Mighty God at the center, Judeo Christian values and
real world firsthand experience. I'm blessed to serve you as
(01:09):
host Biolink.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
In the show notes.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, let's get into it. What started this was
I was checking up on a pole that I put
out for today. I'd like to put out stuff for
the patrons to keep interactive with them and to get
a pulse, get a finger on the pulse of what
the audience kind of wants, what the patrons wants, and
stay do a lot to support the podcast. This one
was entitled caliber and gage, and this one was, well,
(01:38):
let me just read it for you guys, since I
haven't pulled up here. The balloon goes up where you
are with the guns you have now, so not some
ethereal thing of like maybe one day I'll have this
dream gun. If the balloon goes up now, with the
guns you have now, what caliber gauge for long gun
(02:00):
would be your go to if you had to bug
out and only take one? Kind of that different take
on the one gun philosophy there. So let's take a
look at that. The options I posted on there were
twenty two long rifle nine millimeter, three fifty seven magnum
two two three, three, oh we eight and twelve gauge.
(02:22):
The results are dun da da na as it stands
right now, because the polling is still open twenty two
long rifle seventeen percent of the vote, nine millimeter seventeen
percent of the vote, three oh eight thirty three percent
of the vote, and twelve gauge thirty three percent of
the vote. So there you have it. It's settled science.
(02:46):
The three oh weight and the twelve gauge are the
best survival bug out one gun options. No, but seriously,
this is where you are in your area. So you
may have a good reason why you'd pick the twenty
two long rifle. You may have a good reason that
you pick the nine millimeter, Like you live in Canada, right,
and so it depends on you. I'm not pretending to
have so much hubris that I think I know what's
(03:08):
best for you. But these are just what the poll
numbers say. So with that, I may do an episode
because I've done many on survival shotguns, maybe I will
do one on go to survival three owaits or different
really good options for three awaits for survival. I think
(03:29):
that'd be a pretty cool episode. I've got it in
notes of things to talk about. That's one of the
ways that you guys help me help you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The people on.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Patreon shape the direction of the podcast, so here is one.
I just try to get a finger on the pulse
for you guys on how I should look at the
Patreon fund. And this is not a shot, but just
an idea of what you guys are interested in. I've
been blessed to be working two jobs and doing the
private security contracting work, which which I'm blessed pays very
(03:57):
very well, so I haven't dipped into the Patreon fun
for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's just kind of been accumulating.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Now there are costs associated with putting on the podcast
and getting it put out there that does cost money,
so I've just been paying for that. But some of
this money's been accumulating. And I was just curious how
you guys would be interested what gun projects you guys
would be interested in. So the options were modern pccs,
what a modern pistol caliber carbine, big bore revolver, Ultimate
(04:26):
Striker fire project like building the Ultimate Striker fire the
Bretta ninety two X compared to the two twenty six,
because you guys know, one of my go to carry
guns is a sig two twenty six single action only,
and I have a Burretta, a Wilson Combat Bretta ninety
two g Brigadier, which is a fantastic gum, but it's
not going to keep up with a single action only.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So if I wanted to compare, I might have to
get a single action only thumb safety like the two
twenty six.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
The thing about comparing those.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The thirteen oh one versus the Benelli, similar kind of thing,
I'm a I'm a Benelli, but with a thirteen oh one,
maybe getting one and running it like a thirteen oh
one versus a benelam two. A reloading setup for content,
like getting back into reloading now that I have a
more stationary place to stay, God willing for the time
(05:15):
being where I can get back into reloading. And then
ultimate Western Rifle a ten millimeter practical pistol, so an
actual practical ten milimeter CMP service rifle will build and
other So the winner was Donta da Da Surprisingly to me,
(05:35):
Bretta ninety two X compared to the SIG two twenty six.
That's the winner so far, and not by a large margin.
The next one was set up reloading setup for content,
so the main one was the Breda versus the SIG
and then reloading setup and then big Bore Revolver and
Modern PCC got a few votes, and everything else was
(05:58):
trailing behind those. So just again trying to get my
finger on the pulse of what you guys are actually
interested in, what you want. Another one that I recently
put out just to see what you guys thought. Number
of rounds on your person. So this would be like
a carry load out, your EDC load out. How many
(06:18):
rounds do you consider enough? And the way I phrased
it was with less than that you would feel undergun
So what number would you feel undergune if you had
less than this amount?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Fifty or more?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Forty thirty, twenty, fifteen, ten or five I didn't even
consider like a dare injurer with two rounds, but a
five being like a classic jframe, and you know, fifty
or more being like more like a police load out
forty to fifty. So the vast, vast majority this one
was a pretty clear winner was twenty twenty was the
(06:52):
number where people felt like, twenty rounds, I have enough rounds,
and I would I I think I would kind of
agree with that. Maybe I would go thirty, or maybe
I would even go fifteen, as long as I had
two magazines that's the big caveat I would not. I
would rather have fifteen rounds spread out over two magazines
(07:14):
than twenty rounds in one magazine, because magazine's malfunction. Magazines
also fall out. When you're running, jumping and doing things
like that and you go to play, you're gonna you
have no rounds in the gun and you don't have
a spare mag So I would be more comfortable with
fifteen with two magazines than I would with twenty or
thirty in one magazine. So yeah, I can kind of
(07:35):
see that. But the winner there clearly was twenty rounds.
People thought twenty rounds was they had an adequate number
of rounds in less than that they would feel undergunned. Now,
this next one is a just kind of a fun
pole that I put out. I like that fun with
the patrons. They do a lot to help me out,
so I like to have fun with them. And this
one was retro apocalypse. If you were heading into the apocalypse,
(08:02):
appropriate kit, meaning like the side arm, the long gun,
and the webgear and stuff that goes with it. Would
you rather have a World War One load out nineteen
oh three or nineteen seventeen and a nineteen eleven World
War Two era load out and M one grand at
a nineteen eleven Nom Vietnam, an M sixteen A one
(08:26):
and A nineteen eleven nineteen eleven is a long run
and long running guy here OIF one Operation Iraqi Freedom,
of which I was part of, an M sixteen A
two and a Beretta M nine or now the M
four and the M seventeen, M eighteen kind of a
cool little thing, right, if you had to head out
(08:46):
into the apocalypse, which one of these would you pick?
So nine percent was the World War One load out
on nineteen oh three and A nineteen eleven. Now there's
some real merit here because nineteen oh three was our
last bolt action operated mainline issue infantry weapon or the
nineteen seventeen. Now you could sit here and argue, I
(09:08):
kind of like the nineteen oh three. I'm more of
a I've done a lot of bullseye target shooting.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I compete in CMP.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I've done a lot of that more precision iron sight
shooting in the past. I like the nineteen oh three,
But you could argue that the nineteen seventeen in field,
which of which we issued in greater numbers than our
actual service gun is a better combat gun. It's a
little bit faster. I think it's a cock one close.
But the nineteen oh three or the nineteen seventeen and
in nineteen eleven, you know, even going back to World
(09:38):
War One, well over one hundred years ago, that'd be
a pretty good loadout. You could do a lot worse today.
I would take that over some hashtag me too straight
blowback nine millimeters PCC that weighs as much as a
modern fighting rifle that's in a pistol caliber. So I
think you could do a lot worse than a World
War One loadout. And if you said that's what I
(09:59):
had to take, I'd like, fine, I'll make it work.
I can rock at nineteen eleven. And I actually kind
of like the original World War One can figure nineteen
eleven better than the later versions, some of them except
for the sites, So it's a good loadout.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now. The World War two m one garand in the nineteen.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Eleven, yeah, you got you got m block clips, right,
so you got clips instead of magazines. But still, I
mean you can reload those real quick. I personally can't
because I don't shoot them all the time. I don't
compete with them. I don't shoot them. But if you
get good with them, and if this is gonna be
my apocalypisode out, you'd better believe I'd be practicing. You
(10:37):
can get really fast with those. So the M one
garan still the thirty six and A nineteen eleven. It's
not a bad choice. I also got nine percent of
the vote. Now this one kind of surprised me. Now
I'm the M sixteen eight one in the nineteen eleven
eighteen percent. I like the M sixteen A one. I
think for this the M sixteen A one is probably
(10:58):
the best, assuming you got a new one like not
and you couldn't get any of these because an actual
M sixteen eight one is flaudo, but assuming you got
an exact clone of a brand new gun that was
made to original military specifications. I liked the M sixteen
A one, kind of the best of the M sixteen
M four configurations. It's got a twenty inch barrel, it's
(11:19):
got good decent combat iron sights. It doesn't have as
good of target sites, but it has really good combat
sites max point blank range, sturdy, and it's lightweight. It's
got a pencil barrel, which if I'm not doing mag dumps,
is great because I save on weight. I think the
M sixteen A one was maybe the best of the
(11:39):
M sixteen AR fifteen family that we've ever fielded. You
could disagree with me on that, but I like the
M sixteen eight one. It's basic, it's effective, it's lightweight,
and the nineteen eleven kind of an odd pairing because
you have the lightweight, high velocity and then you have
the low capacity, heavyweight heavy hitter and a pistol caliber
(11:59):
of the nineteen eleven kind of a weird pairing one
of the reasons I probably wouldn't go for it. But
I do like the M sixteen A one OIF one,
the M sixteen A two, and the Bretta M nine.
This was the winner, kind of surprisingly now, the M
sixteen A two, in my opinion, was a little bit
of a step in the wrong direction for combat. So
(12:20):
also so Free Apocalypse as well. It's got a heavier barrel.
It's a better target gun, but perhaps a better gun
if you're dumping magazine full auto. But I don't see
either one of those things being really relevant. I would
rather save the weight and have the M sixteen A
one pencil barrel, and although the sites are more refined
(12:41):
on the A two, they're also more complicated, more moving parts.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
But it's a good gun. It's a good rifle.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I qualified expert with it in the Marine Corps shot
you know, mansie silhouettes out the five hundred and fifty
yards or five hundred meters. But in combat, I don't
really ever see that being applied, where you're slow firing,
getting hasty slang, getting in a good prone position, testing
your natural point of aim. It just takes too long
for real life.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
For combat.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You're probably firing for effect, walking rounds on target, things
like that if you're firing that far away. But it's
a good rifle, a little bit heavier than it needs
to be, but a good rifle. And the M nine
and I have said that the M nine is the
best combat handgun ever fielded in mass period, and I
stand by that. It may be controversial. Some people hate
(13:27):
the M nine and I did too, actually when I
was in the Marine Corps because I wasn't a very
good pistol shooter. So I blamed it on the gun
and I got out and I shot a bunch of
other handguns and actually got some actual training and shot
competition with a handgun, I realized it was me and
the M nine or bread At ninety two is a fine,
fine weapon, so I liked that one.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
That was the winner of the poll.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And the other choice was the M four and the
M seventeen M eighteen. Now I'm not gonna craple on
the M seventeen and eighteen. It's a decent gun. It's
a polymer striker fired handgun, so I don't think it's
as refiner elegant as a ninety two, but it's a
good effective handgun. That might be controversial, but I'll stand
by that as well.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And the M four.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
M four is a little bit shorter, so if you
lived in an urban environment, you might go with the
M four. Not that you can't clear rooms with a
twenty inch barrel, we certainly did it in the Marine Corps,
but the M four it's not a bad compromise over
the M four. If you're talking about a government profile barrel,
unless you're shooting an M two or three or NAD launcher,
you probably don't want the government profile barrel. And it
seems a bit silly, but still it's a good option.
(14:33):
So I'm kind of surprised that one didn't win. Is
that surprising that people are more confident in the older
load out from twenty years ago than the newer one?
Has it really twenty years since? Yeah, it's more than
twenty years since I crossed the border into Iraq?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, So just some thoughts there in a fun poll
retro apocalypse. What would you pick bet you didn't know
you were going to get a quiz today on the podcast?
How about a hippie quiz? A hippie test? Are you
a hippie? Or what do you think makes a hippie?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is just again, It's just a fun pole that
I have fun with the guys. How many of these
things before you think someone is a hippie? What do
you think here? Let me give you the the choices.
How many of these things make somebody a hippie? Tied
die vespa sandals all year long, a hemp hoodie, shops
(15:29):
in an organic section. Peace sign pin like a pin
with a peace sign on it smells like marijuana, granola
as a go to snack, dreadlocks any I forgot leaving
the comments. I just again just a fun pole, guys.
(15:54):
Now twenty five percent said any of them. Don't be fooled.
The winner was sixty three percent two or more. So
if you have if you check two or more of
those boxes, you may be a hippie. Thirteen percent said
three or more, and nobody said you had to have
all of them. Now, my wife jokingly refers to me
sometimes as a hippie with a gun. So I'm gonna
(16:15):
disagree with the only one right because I'll straight up
go out slay a elk and eat it, slay a
deer and eat it. I got no problem with that, right.
I love doing. That's one of my one of the
reasons I live where I live. But uh, I'm also
kind of I like to eat clean. I would rather
eat clean, healthy meat than something that was fed GMO corn.
(16:39):
Does that make me a hippi? If I'd rather have
grass fed steak? So you know, there is that, And uh,
I don't know if that makes me a hippie. Maybe
I am. And here's the other thing I wanted to say.
There's nothing wrong with being hippie. There's no use that
shall not be a hippie.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
If you love God, love Jesus and you and you, Uh,
that's all that matters. Right, You could still be a
hippie and be into guns. You could be into all
kinds of other stuff if you're if you believe Jesus
is the son of God and die for your sins,
like you're my brother in Christ, hippi or no hippie,
(17:17):
like I consider my brother in Christ if you're a
hippie Christian rather than somebody that wears a grunt style
T shirt. I don't do that, by the way, and
drinks you know, some tactical coffee brand and and uh,
you know has tons of guns. But you don't believe
in Jesus, then you're not my brother in Christ. So
that's more important. So nothing wrong with hippies. Yeah, so
(17:39):
there's that. Now here's one I did of training or competition.
What are you guys doing as far as training and
competition goes, I consider you guys more serious about guns
than the average owner. I am wondering how many pay
attention to formal training or plan to attend formal training
(18:01):
this year or formal competition. I don't think I can
see who votes for what, so be honest, I just
want an idea of the audience. Formal meaning being paid,
not from a friend or relative training competition meaning a
formal pay to play competition.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And you can collect multiple that apply.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So for this again, kind of I would consider the
audience more into guns and more hardcore and serious about
guns in the average obviously than the average American or
probably than the average podcast listener, because that's kind of
the niche that we have here. And you're welcome if
you've never even shot a gun before. But I would
think it's a little bit different demographic. So no formal
(18:45):
training or competition was.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The winner.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Sadly the vast majority, or not the vast majority, but
the majority. The majority said no formal training or competition
this year, and then less than that, but the second
most popular competition plans, and then after that was formal
training plans. Let me just use this to spank your
(19:17):
heini a little bit, because I love you. This is
gonna hurt you more than it's gonna hurt me. Get
out there and shoot training or competition if you're not,
If you're serious about shooting, right, take a formal training class.
I don't care if you've been shooting for twenty years.
You don't know what you don't know. And although I'm
a little bit jaded on YouTube recently, and I've been
(19:37):
fasting it for quite a while, and I don't really
miss it, to be honest with you, YouTube is good
for some stuff. It's not good for being great at shooting.
You can learn some stuff, but you have to do it.
You're far better off getting formal training if you've never
had formal training. And I'm not talking about an uncle
a cousin. It's just a different dynamic. I don't care
if your uncle is. You know, a competition winning handgun shooter.
(20:03):
Get paid formal training from a paid formal class and
good competition. Competition is like the honing stone that keeps
you sharp, that pushes you, because you'll get lazy. I
went a little while without shooting like still challenge competition,
and I had regressed quite a bit in my grip
because I can shoot fast anyway, but I can't shoot
(20:24):
as fast as I can with a good hardcore like
coal into Diamond's grip on that pistol, and I'd gotten
lazy on that. We're all subject to it. So competition, again,
I would call it that honing stone that.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Keeps you sharp.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So I would really really encourage you to look at
training or competition this next year or this year, well,
you know, three hundred and sixty five days from today.
Look at that. If you already have a couple of
guns instead of maybe just buying another gun, if you're
not doing training and competition, do training and competition, and
(20:59):
or they're both really good. You don't know what you
don't know?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Since that last was a little bit of tough love,
We're gonna end on a real fun one, just you know,
settled science, no debate, most American Fourth of July food.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
But before I.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Do, I just want to encourage you consider becoming a patron.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Some men just want to be a passive part of this.
They don't want any input, they don't care what content is,
they don't want to support in any way. They just
want to be a passive listener. If you're that kind
of guy, you just want to be a passive listener.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay. But if you do, in fact.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Want to say in the kind of content, and do
want a voice and want to support the podcast because
you get something out of it and you think it's
worth something. There's a lot of different ways that Patreon
supports the podcast. The Big Ones is just encouraging. It's
encouraging to know that people actually listening care about the podcast.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Before I got my.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
First patroon, I was doing a couple of Gunfighter Life
episodes a year instead of a week. So it's just
nice to know that somebody cares. So if you care,
consider becoming a patron all right, So with that, the
most American Fourth of July food, and let's just see here,
(22:24):
what did you guys pick for the most American Fourth
of July food? The options were hamburger, hot dog, steak, ribs,
fried chicken, apple pie, ice cream, watermelon, strawberry shortcake, biscuits, rolls, potato, salad,
other all right, So I want to pick a couple
(22:45):
of different categories because obviously you've got like your main course,
your meat. Then you've got carbs if you want to
eat carbs, and then you have a dessert. So the
most American food for Fourth of July hamburger, and then for.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The starch.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
For the carbs, we have biscuits, and then for dessert
we have apple pie. The most American Fourth of July
meal then is hamburgers, biscuits, and apple pie. Pretty neat.
I actually voted for steak, so maybe they're all wrong,
(23:28):
but the most American Fourth of July food, how about that? Hey, guys, thanks,
I hope you enjoyed this kind of different episode, just
on medley of different stuff. I appreciate you, guys, patron
or not, I appreciate you. Thank you for listening, and
have a blessed day.
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