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May 27, 2025 59 mins
What if your discomfort with “church as usual” is actually a holy invitation? In this raw, unscripted episode, Neal Karsten tackles why decentralized ecclesiology is often misunderstood as “anarchy church”—when it’s actually a return to something deeply biblical and beautifully simple.

You'll hear stories of people detoxing from religion like it was addiction, and finding Jesus in living rooms, not on stages. It’s not chaos—it’s a call back to the roots.

What We Talk About:
  • Neal's journey from seminary pastor to living room church planter
  • Why decentralized ecclesiology is often mistaken for chaos
  • Key differences between centralized and decentralized church structures
  • Detoxing from “religion as performance” and re-learning spiritual identity
  • The importance of modeling simple church and citywide networks
  • How early adopters can bridge the gap for the hesitant middle majority
  • Why spiritual movements must deal with root issues, not just rebrand
Resources Mentioned:
  • Pastor to Pioneer – Helping church leaders transition into movement work
  • Lampstands – A prophetic voice for the discontent in traditional church systems

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