September 9, 2025 • 52 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Tonight, we are discussing Alien Earth episode six, titled The Fly.
I'm Gil from one take here.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
With Tony from Hack the Movies and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Tony, why don't you tell everybody our fun little name
of the game here?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, in space, no one can hear you scream, but
they can hear you super chat.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's right, we'll be listening.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We got it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Actually last episode, I think we got our most super
chats yet, it was the one that you weren't here for.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think I'm think maybe that's a side. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Wait, it is not because I wasn't here, but because
there was only one of us from one take.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was just the right number of people from one take.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh. But Gil, before we get into tonight's episode, you
weren't here. You picked like the worst time to go
on another vacation. It was like the most like praised
episode of the show so far. Even people who don't
like it like the show liked it. And I'm like,
of course, Gil, this is this.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
One, thus proving that what people really want is just
more of the same. They just wanted them to remake
Alien in TV form.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
How did just think about my thoughts?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Where I'm like, oh, this is what alien would to
look like with more enhanced effects and shooting and more violence,
and it would look kind of dumb to see that
alien running around the ship.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How did you feel? Did you like?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I liked the episode, even though it was a little silly.
How did you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I liked it for a lot of the same reasons.
I think the thing that stood out the most for me, though,
And I kind of hinted at this with my super
chat last week where I said my theory for why
so many of the characters are dumb is because it's
hard to write a really intelligent character, so instead you
can just turn down the IQ of every other character
and then they seem really intelligent. But I feel like
we've been watching a bunch of morons like bump into
(01:52):
each other and scramble around, and then Marrow walks in
because he's the only one talking sense, he's not getting
distracted by anything. Every time people start like veering off topic,
He's like, there's an alien Lewis. I found him just
it was very satisfying watching him. I think I was
worried like everybody else, like another flashback episode, not anotherism
(02:13):
we've seen more in this show, but just in general.
Anytime a TV show like gets momentum, it's like, let's
do the flashback episode. But I actually found it really
satisfying and getting annoyed at the characters being dumb. It
made me excited to relive that moment from episode one
with a lady's knocking on the door and he's like,
I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Uh yeah, I really enjoyed it. But tonight's episode, we're back.
We're back into the main timeline here. I really dug
it say that about every episode, but I'm like, this
is really starting to feel like the show.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I really want it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We repast the character introductions, We've set up all the
motivations and stuff. Now let's see Shika really hit the
fan and Sit is hitting the fan this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, we finally saw what was in that boldous plant
thing that's been growing.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I thought that would be a bigger They showed it
in the last episode, but I couldn't tell that was
the plant I saw. Uh No, the plant has the
tentacle coming out of it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Oh, so where did the flies come from?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think those might be those leeches?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Those are okay, I.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Could be wrong because we can't remember what was it
A five species.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's the bold, the eye, the alien, the leeches.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I guess alien leeches.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I guess the fly. Well, I said the alien. Oh yeah,
alien eyeball flower thing leeches. So either the flies are
a thing that we haven't really seen yet or we forgot.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Might be a new thing. Actually, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I liked the episode overall too. I mean I would say,
like for better or worse. I feel like it carried
on pretty much all of this show's traits consist, which is,
this is the stuff I love that's kind of wrapped
in a lot of the dumber stuff. I feel like
I had to bring my metaphorical Daniel hat that I'll
put on from time to sign this episode because we
need to have the complainer represented while we're talking through
(04:14):
all this.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I liked right away we see the alien, and I
like that it's like constantly shedding if you saw it
have like pieces of skin like coming off of it,
because we never really get to see the shedding process
in the other movies except for Alien resurrect Our, Alien
Versus Predator Requiem, where you can't see it so it
doesn't matter. So I like that it's growing really really fast.
(04:37):
That was the thing, Like the Facezigger was supposed to
stay on you for days, chess Burser comes out like
a day later, and then the thing grows really fast.
The movies have been fucking that up, so it's nice
to see like develop how it would in the first movie.
And it's cool that they actually get to see it
this time. I know it doesn't really work for horror.
You don't want to see it, but we've already had
that so many times.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's fun. I'm like, hey, look there it is. It's good.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, that's like the point keep making, which is like
the mystique is gone. Like we've seen the xenomore for
a million times, so now let's look at it from
another angle, like the more funds or the fun sci
fi angle, and like to your point, not only are
we seeing it grow kind of slowly, but now we
get to spend more time with it in each stage
and it's fun seeing it crawl around and it's kind
of like Terrible Two's like toddler adolescent stage and just
(05:21):
seeing Wendy's interactions with it and the way it kind
of like looks back at her. I mean I think
one of the things the show does best is just
the way that aliens stare at you, the sheep and
the xenomorph, and you just see, like I think I
see intelligent behind their eyes or in the sheep's case,
one eye.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, or the alien's case no eyes yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, just like a curling lip that it's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm really wondering if I know she was weird to
begin with, Wendy or Mazzie as they're now calling her
by her proper Christian name. I wonder if they're starting
to like manipulate her because she's she has a whole
thing with her brother where the brother is just like, yeah,
come back with me and will be a normal, regular family.
(06:05):
It's like, she's not gonna happen to you, idiot. But
I feel like she's just like, look, she's starting to
sympathize with the alien a little too much.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, like didn't need to be here?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is She's like, there's a lot of organisms that have
a hive like mentality, and maybe I don't want to
be human. I'm like, oh, is she communicating with the
alien whatever psychic thing they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
They're like, hey, you're one of us. Right, you're talking
to us, we're talking to you.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One of my favorite lines in the episode is when
she says the pronunciation is tricky. I love just when
someone makes a statement where it takes you a second
or two to realize like the shocking thing behind that,
which is she's starting to learn their language, or at least
she thinks she's communicating with it. And you know, I
feel like the turn she's taking would annoy me, like
(06:47):
the idea of you've got a robot, they're gonna turn
on humanity. It's the most obvious route to go, but
I think here it's a little bit more interesting, at
least the angle through which they're doing it. On one hand,
she has that thing where she says something like I
want to see the world as it really is.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I don't want to feel the world.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So it's like she doesn't want to be distracted and
clouded by emotions. She's following the boy Cavalier route of
I want to gain as much intelligence as possible, become
a super genius like him. And then there is probably
the one that's the most similar to what we've seen
before is where yeah, she's starting to sympathize with the
alien over people people kill each other. Yeah, this alien
(07:27):
didn't ask to be here, and she starts to see
them more as individuals. The thing tried to kill us.
She's like, not that xenomorph, that was a different one. Yeah,
if she like wells to find out they have a
bit of a hive mind, that she might start to
change her tune a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
She's like, they don't kill each other because alien resurrection
hasn't happened yet. And I didn't see that scene where
they kill the one alien to break up. What happens
when a queen just like gets introduced at some point?
Will she just like listen to it? Or was like,
I just have to minute, I just have to communicate
with the queen to tell her aliens to stop killing us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like, that's not gonna work late.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's gonna be that scene in the Simpson where the
kids have to choose if they want to go back
to their family or go with like the Flanders. On
one side, like the Flanders, it's all wonderful and awesome.
Then she looks back at the Simpsons like in a
swamp and.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was Homer, Lisa and Bart that Maggie wasn't sure
up and she's like, okay, I guess like the animals.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So the equivalent will be the Queen shows up and
that's going to make up his mind. I do have
a feeling a queen is going to come at some point,
because I feel like everybody's sleeping on the Xenomorph. People
in the reviews are talking about how it's kind of
weird and the Xenomorph is really not the most dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
On to that, I think maybe seems even worse.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But I think I think is really starting to steal
the show. It's really starting to steal the show now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I feel like he's got to be so annoyed at
the end of this episode, he's like, the egg door
is open.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The door is open. Somebody opened my door. Come on.
And I love how just when all this crap is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Going down, like when Slightly is having Arthur get face hugged,
you have the xenomorph watching, you have the sheep watching,
you have kursh watching over the camera. Just a lot
of people just watching all this chaos going on.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What the hell is wrong with the security at this place?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Why is there not a room just full of.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
People whose job gil it is to just look at
the cameras constantly.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No one is ever look that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Uh he gets at By the way, the flies also
have acid. I guess they have face. Yes, face acid
is just a common form of blood that we're.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah to them, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're like, wait, how come when I cut you it
didn't like burn a hole in my eye?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Uh? Yeah, So this kid is dead for a while
a while, and no one I mean, the one person
who checks the camera is the well him, but like
the who's the robot name the Timothy Elephant robot? Oh
cursh cursh, who's being weird and himself, So we really
need to figure out what's up with him and the
(10:10):
guy they fire right in the beginning, which we should
talk about that plot line. But yeah, that guy they
fire is like the one who realizes that he finally
gets a notification after a while. Again, after a while,
he gets a notification and it was auto monitor in
his room.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I guess he had a lot of things on his mind.
He did just lose his job.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
But I'm just like, this is no one paying attention here,
how would it all?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna put my Daniel hat on for a second,
and yeah, this is like the monumental leap in technology
for humanity. You've got these like one trillion dollar apiece
hybrids walking around the first time a human brain has
been downloaded into a robot. You don't have like a
I guess they have a tracker on it, but you
don't have like an alert system setup. That's like, if
(10:52):
one of these goes down or something goes wrong with it,
send out an alert like a ten bell alarm, like
we lost.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
One, here's here's another one. Bye.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
By the way, when he is trying to give him
information on Wendy, he like looks at the camera and
he's like, I gotta be quiet. But me, who's been
watching a episode, Like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Don't's watch what he's watching it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He's just there for show. I think. I don't think
it's even real. Uh was I just talking about? Uh?
Sorry I trailed off.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
What was I to you talking about? Arthur?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The lab? The lab, the lab?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Why aren't there I know that you can't have humans
there because the biology, the the face face huggers want
a biological hosts and everything. But why aren't there just
like three or four hybrids in there? At all times,
because that thing with the door where he rips the
door off and he's just like, oh no, I guess
I'll just open the door to the fly thing. Someone
(11:50):
else canna be like, that's a bad idea, yes, Or
if he wasn't there, they could have let him out
when he got locked in, right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
At least, so you can write off him making a
portus decision because he's a kid, so he's stupid. It's
there's yeah, there's no precautions being taken anywhere here or
anywhere else in this whole facility. I'll point it out before.
I mean, I think someone in the comments already pointed
this out too. But when Arthur comes in and he
sees I think his name is Tootles, it was like,
(12:20):
first off, you're sending somebody into a lab that's gonna
have to deal with the five of the most dangerous
species humanity's ever come into contact with. Send Tootles, he's
the man we can count on. Arthur comes in, he
sees Toodles dead, and he just opens the door and
runs in. Whatever killed him is still in there, and
he's machinery. You're a squishy human. You probably don't stand
(12:43):
a chance against them they're dead.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, just all help and be like, hey, that guy's
dead in their.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Now, so you got fired get out there.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Well I love to help, but you know I don't
work here anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I have a theory though about Kersh, because there is
the question what is he up to and why is
he not reporting? He's been watching all of this, He's
been watching slightly talking Tomorrow. He watched everything go down
in the lab, and when boys like everything okay, he's
like affirmative, I don't. I feel like the obvious route
is that there's some form of sabotage going on. Like
(13:21):
every previous alien movie, he wants things to go wrong,
and maybe he can't do it himself, but he's like batman,
I don't have to save you.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I can stand back and let it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, he's got like a weird relationship with Morrow too.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They're on the elevator and they're talking about like the difference,
like how he's a cyborg and he's full synthetic.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I wonder how he's being manipulated or how he
became sentient enough to want to betray Cavalier to like
what end.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, maybe I'm giving too much credit to the show.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But I feel like that's so obvious.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I hope that's not the route they go, And I
wonder if part of the twist will be that he's
Curse is not actually breaking any orders, that what he's
been told to do is give as much leeway as
he can to the hybrids. We want to see what
they do, even if it means some of them getting destroyed.
Don't let Wendy get hurt. That's kind of maybe the
(14:15):
one hard line boy will draw, but we know that
he really doesn't. He's very overestimates his own intelligence, so
you could see him being egotistical and saying I can
handle this. Something's going to go wrong over confidence. So
maybe he's basically said, like, give them as much leeway
as you can, and only when it gets to a
boiling point and you really need to pull me in,
(14:37):
do that. And so it's up to Curse to decide.
It's still a relatively contained situation. Arthur died. I don't
care we lost Toodles, but it's not yet at that
point where I have to raise the red flag and say, boy,
we may have a problem.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Also, letting it happen revealed who like the mole is,
it's what's his face? Who's working formorrow? How he needs
to get like human host for the alien right right?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh, he already knew that, or Kurse knew it because
he was listening.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So then he's checking. I think maybe he's like building
a case. It's just he's letting it get way through
out of hand when he's already has the proof. But
in this robot mind, maybe he's like, I need to
read one hundred thousand percent sure, classic alien fashion.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The vents are gigantic and super clean. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Two lessons I've taken from movies is if you go
into the sewers, you will find a kingdom underground. And
if you go into vents, it's basically like a smaller
hallway that can get you anywhere you need to go.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And it's always super good.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Open up anything in your house right now, it's gonna
be pristine in there.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Can we talk about why Arthur got fired? Please?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because Redhead, our favorite dirty faced robot lady, after her
little meltdown last episode or two episodes ago, they put
her asleep and they're going through her and they're realizing
her problem is not physical, has nothing to do with
the machinery.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
She's not pregnant.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes, she's not pregnant.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They said that she had trauma going into this, and
I'm like, all right, went out. Now, you guys are
really mean. I thought maybe they she was stupid, and
they thought it like, you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Guys are really mean. She should not be in.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
This program or at least not walking around, like at
least he's a liability.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You don't want to give that one super robot strength.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So the one guy, the fancy British man who's like
second in command, I guess the boy cavalier.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh yeah, I looked up his name, Adam, Like at.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes, he's like, hey, uh, delete all her memories right
up until before the crash.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And slow her processing speed or something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yes, And they're like, no, he can't do that. Or
Arthur's like I can't do that, and he's like, all right,
you're fired. Your wife's co works here, which is awkward,
but you're fired goodbye.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, which I I like him standing up for what
he believes there. I kind of wish we it's weird
that their husband and wife like it gets brought up
a couple of times here and there, and to me,
it kind of feels like the reverse engineering of Okay,
Arthur's probably gonna die. He gets face hugged at the
end of the episode. No one's gonna really care. So
(17:16):
we got to throw some character development in there, because
so far all we've established is that he has low
sperm count. Yeah, so let's say on top of that
he's Dame's husband. But it's like after he got fired
for standing up for something and her not backing him
and saying I don't need him, I can do this myself.
There's no conversation between them after that we see, so
(17:38):
it kind of feels like she doesn't care and the
show doesn't care that he dies.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So you think maybe like in writing or like planning it,
they're like, let's make them a couple, just so there's
some element.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, to try and add some dramatic weight to what's
gonna to what happened to both him dying and to that,
are you going to stand up for these hybrid kids
or not? So now it's like, on top of standing
up for your principal, you're going against your wife.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So then Redhead, they race her memory, they do all
that stuff, but they live for whatever reason, they didn't
tell everyone they were gonna do this. So she wakes
up and Wendy's like, remember the crash and all the aliens.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It was when you said you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And she's like, what the hell are you t You
said they slowed down her processing, So she's like.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What I did? What She's like, I don't remember. I
don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like, you can't just erase seven weeks and then not
tell everyone to like dance around certain subjects.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You've just did the whole thing that you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Just Especially, they've kind of positioned Wendy as not exactly
the confidant, but she is kind of like the quasi
leader of the kids, like she's the one who initially
welcomed them all. So I feel like Dame would have
pulled her aside and listen, Wendy nibs had a little
proper and.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
We nibbed it in the bud.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well, we're gonna need you to not bring up some
of the stuff that happened for you last week.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It's like fifty first Dates.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
How the whole town is in on it with the
girl's memory. Remember they all pretend I never watched that movie.
It's all right, So Gil, I'm gonna pretend to like
Happy Gilmore too, even though it's ducks but didn't watch
fifty First Dates, which granted isn't great of a movie.
But she remembers the same day over and over again.
(19:28):
She has brain damage, and the whole town's in on it.
So they have like the same newspaper over and over. Okay,
but then there's some days where like something breaks her system,
like she gets new information, she doesn't know how to
handle it, and she like goes nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then dan Aykroy makes a joke about his balls
being big. Uh, you should check it out. It's the
tail end of his good movies.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So we can only hope that that's basically the structure
of episode seven.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, well, what I'm saying is they should have went
to everyone be like, don't mention the crash, don't mention
the alien to her.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We're gonna ease her into this or as soon as
she wakes up their alien. There was a.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Minimum monitor her is just especially her, she's psychologically sensitive
at the moment and has been, and so you just
throw her out there into the deep end.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Ways.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I feel like we just set up like if this
was a sitcom, that'd be a Kramer moment where everyone's
on board and be like, don't tell her about anything
that Kramer walks say like, hey remember that alien what Cramer?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I will say, like, this is some of the stuff
I do love in the show though, like putting aside
some of the craziness around it, but getting at that
question of what makes us human? And so when you
start talking about erasing some of her memories, slowing down
her processing speed, like it brings up that question of
how many of these little tweaks would you have to
make to then make her a different at what point
(20:52):
of view essentially killed someone and replace them with an
entirely other person.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The way they phrase it in the show is that
we don't.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Know what impact this would have on her identity, her functioning, psychology.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We're getting into some swamp thing territory. I don't know
how much you know about swamp thing the DC character.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, I know a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I read.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I think all of Alan Moore's run.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, Alan Moore's run is the one that introduced It's like,
oh no, he's actually not that guy who turned into a.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Platf anatomy lesson. Yeah, that was the name of the first.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it's just like, oh, no, swamp Thing this whole
time has just been its own organism that just got
that guy's memory. So this is this whole identity crisis. Yeah,
so I like how this show is doing that. It's like,
are we the same person if we were just copied
into this, or are we a new thing that just
has all that person's experiences and stuff, which is inter
That's one thing I like about that swamp Thing run.
(21:46):
I never got more than a few episodes in the
new show. I heard it was good, and then they
canceled it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Then it canceled it before it even came out.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that's why I did watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I liked what I saw of it. I really want
to finish it. It just didn't stream anywhere after first.
But anyway, I like that idea, like am I my
own unique thing or am I just a copy? And
I think the show is exploring it pretty well, especially
with a dirty redhead. She's the one who's struggling with
this the book, whereas Wendy is like, I'm only on
just being a robot. This is great. The other ones
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just aren't even asking the questions. They're just pretending like
nothing has changed. Like I wearn slightly bigger bodies. Yeah, well,
Guy's like, oh man, being grown up sucks, And it's
just funny seeing an adult say it was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was one moment.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
There were a couple moments like a little heartbreaking this episode.
Like one is when Joe is talking to Wendy. He's like,
don't worry, I'm working on a plan to get us
out of here, and she's like, I don't really want
to go.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I kind of like it here.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I feel like it maybe would have landed a little
more effectively if at any point we believed she would
have left with him, but they'd they kind of went
right from she's your sister too, she's not quite who
you remember, and there's never any hope that she was
going to go with him. Yeah, but it does kind
of work that that we know that, but he doesn't
realize it yet, so you have that moment of realization.
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But also when I think Smee is his name, Slightly's
friend and he's like, why can't we just play games
like we used to, and Slightly He's like, I gotta
take care of this one thing and then we can
play all the games you want. And I kind of
felt bad for him, and at the same time, I
was like, I don't know if I do I need
this story in this show.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Well whatever, I'll go with it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, it's because it's not why I watch Alien, But yeah,
it was a nice moment. I loved slightly this whole
episode because I mean, at no point do you have
any confidence that he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Able to pull off what Marrow wants.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He really lucks into it accidentally. He's trying to get
the brother just because he hates the brother. Yeah, but
there's so many other.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Options he can go to.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know why he's just lasered on the brother
other than he hates him for personal reason.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I feel like part of it is like they've set
up this idea that he cares about doing the right thing,
so he's convinced himself the brother is a bad guy.
It's okay if I kill him or put him in
harm's way, right right.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And the brother had that one scene where they pull
them away with the other like soldiers.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I forget what they were doing though, and.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
They were on patrol.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They were like, I think they're putting out extra patrol
because Tani is gonna be sending in some soldiers, which.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We totally forgot to talk about the boy cavalier you
miss You Tani debate or negotiations where they're just throwing
billions of dollars around. He's got his fucking feet up
on the table the grossest ship.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was excited for this, for this confrontation between the
two of them, and it did not disappoint. Not only
did he get one foot, we got a second foot
bretting his legs on the and their dirty feet too.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and he's picking them like, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
See at least here this is him disrespecting you Tani.
So there's some it's not there's a motivation behind the action.
I did find the scene overall disappointing because I wanted
you Tani to be a really formidable adversary, not only
because it would just be nice to see someone like
smack the smug grin off Boy's face, but also I
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think it would just be more interesting if there was
somebody that could actually stand up against Boy. But the
moment he brings up like well I could tell everyone
about these alien specimens, she immediately folds and it's like
that was the most obvious move he was going to
bring to the table, and she seemed totally unprepared for it.
She was completely thrown when he brought that up.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And she's like fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, and she gets what she wants. She's like, oh,
and after six weeks, we'll give him back. She's like no,
it's like, well, there's a rule.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's six weeks the Brubaker Accords.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's like, I'll give him back after six weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It has a nice bit of world building, like they
have these accords. I guess about how to handle alien specimens.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You need a six week quarantine.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It just tells you, you know, I've always been curious about,
like when did first contact happen in this world? So
that gives you some idea that they've had enough experience.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, to have a chords. Well, the predator obviously every
time the predator.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Why do you keep forgetting gil?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, I like that whole negotiation. That was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But I like that she's still gonna have troops go
in and kill them. But Mar's just like, we're gonna
do some chaos there. You gotta really, because they're, like
you said, they're increasing their security. So he's just like,
let's let some of those fuckers out, take care of
a lot of them for us, and then we'll just grab.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Them when we go in.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, because I think I mentioned the previous episode that
there's like that scene from the first trailer where you
think it's aliens coming out of the water and it's
soldiers and his team coming in.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, so I'm excited to get to that level where
they just storm the beach.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I love when they're on patrol in Joe's with them.
A couple of things. I love one where they bring
up how you know, rumor has it Utani's gonna be
doing a full frontal assault, and then what are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We're on an island.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm like, nobody in history has ever attacked an island before.
We don't have the techono to attack an island in
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Do you think maybe he was confused and he's just like,
which part of the island is the front?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't know where an island is that the front?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't have a front, will I saw good luck
with that. This island's a circle. It's like, oh shit, yeah,
like Morrow's cyborg brain, like the robot part of it's
gonna I cannot locate the front.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Full frontal assault, Like why are they gonna be naked
when they attack us? I don't understand these things. That
seems like a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I also love Joe's subtlety. He's like, boats are cool, right,
My dad used to take me on a boat. Have
you guys ever been on a boat before? Like Joe,
whatever you're thinking, just shut it down.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But yeah, I uh, I dug this episode.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It was fun seeing like what aliens were gonna get
out of those pods?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, the containment field thing.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I'm trying to think what else happened in the uh?
Do we cover all like the big plot poins?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I'm scrolling up and down my notes here to
see if he missed anything big. He jumped around, But
I feel like we covered most of it. I was
gonna say, going back to Kursh and Marrow, I feel
like when they were on the elevator together and they
had that kind of tense conversation where Kursh is like,
I'm awesome, I'm a machine. He's basically like a machine supremacist,
like he sees himself as pure and Marrow is still
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part human, and Marrow is such an enigma of a character,
and I don't really know where he stands on this
issue or if he even cares about it. Because he
does snipe back at Kersh where he tells him how
he's obsolete, like they just introduced these new kid hybrids. Yeah,
but I feel like he's not necessarily subscribing to that belief.
(28:45):
It's more like he's just trying to insult Kersh back. Yes,
he's just fighting back. So I don't know if Marow
cares about the fact that he isn't entirely human.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I guess we had the one scene early on in.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
The series where he was all sweaty and he was
talking about like the orders he was being given, but
that had less to do with him being machine and
more to do with him getting orders from a corporation
to do horrible things. But I guess we don't fully
understand his nature, so we don't know to what extent
when he gets those orders, does he have any choice
to actually disobey them?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know how much?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well he he did disobey you, Tanny, That's true. When
she's like come back, He's like nope. But could that
be like whatever's in his head programmed He's like, well,
my my program to fulfill my mission overrides direct orders
from the right.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe if you Telly's grandmother gave the order, They're like, shoot,
we didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
We only programmed it to listen to her and she's dead.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Say the alien looked really good for I mean, toward
the end, I think it was back to being like
a man in the suit or the animatronic. But the
cgi alien, little baby alien, looked fine.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah. And again I'm glad it grew really fast.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I'm like, no, let's not do baby ale Let's not
try to make this the next We don't need baby
Zeno more iph we just need it for a little bit.
I was afraid we'd be stuck with baby Zenamore for
a few episodes. I'm like, that's not I know other
movies make them grow too fast, but they also don't
grow that slow.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like you've got you have baby Groot, you have the
baby in Jurassic World rebirth.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yes, alien franchise need Yeah, baby Yoda.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
There was a few others, Oh, baby Nut, mister Peanut.
There was a couple of commercials.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So there was a baby Nut. He's not as remembered
as the other ones.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Well, where where do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Where do you think we're going with the Wendy alien connection?
So she's talking to this thing, she's learning their language.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, I think, Uh, I don't know where it's gonna
end up. Honestly, I think the aliens are going to
try to recruit her or something, because I.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Say, it's the most interesting part of the show to me,
Like I'm glued to the screen whenever she's talking to
that alien.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The funny thing is the alien it's probably want to
study an experiment with her, really, because they're like, how
is something that's not us communicating with us like this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Because yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
The alien is just playing along with her.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't think it.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
In my mind, it'd be weird if the aliens like, yeah,
I am your friend, it actually attacks her the one
time she's talking to us.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, I think the alien can recognize like, this is
something that shouldn't be able to talk to me, and
I really need to study it because it's a threat.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, we also don't know like, Okay, she's working on
the pronunciation, but does she know what she's saying? Is
this an actual language or is it really like rudimentary communication,
Like we don't know how intelligent that thing is, Like
we don't know if we know that there's some degree
of xenomorphon intelligence, but even that, I don't know if
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it's individualized or you've got to be part of the hybrid.
And then a lot of it's coming from the queen.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, it it depends on Sometimes when there's less aliens,
they're a little bit smarter, hmmm, because I guess at
some point when there's this hundreds, they're like, well, most
of us are cat and fodder.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One of us will one of us will succeed. We'll
just throw us.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We'll just throw a bunch of us in front of
the guns for ten minutes, right, So yeah, I guess
Also a lot of the aliens we see aliens are
probably the oldest aliens we've seen because there was two
weeks between them being infected and them starting the hive.
But yeah, so we've always dealt with very very young
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aliens that were like fresh. But I feel like we're
gonna spend a little bit of time with this one here,
and now we have another alien on the way, so
I don't know which one from the preview we saw
that's gonna be running around in the woods. I don't
know if it's the one that's already in containment or
one the one that's gonna come out of Arthur right
at this point. But yeah, I really don't know where
it's gonna end up with Wendy and I kind of
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like that, I don't know where it's gonna end up,
because it is disappointing sometimes where you just call what's
gonna happen in the show, But this one, I've been
I've been thrown curveballs left and right here.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So yeah, I think when you texted me the picture
of boy with his feet on the table, yeah, I'm
gonna throw up, Like, yeah, if you told me, or
when I was told a couple of years ago, they're
making an alien show. Like if I were making a
list of things I expect to see, that wouldn't have
been anywhere on the list.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Unless you told me. Tarantino is directed.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, Tarantino's Like this is the best movie ever.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
This movie is ignoring Romulus's edition of a cocoon. They're
getting rid of that element. I think that was just
specific to the aliens on Romulus. Yeah, yeah, Yeah on Fax,
Romulus played before the show again, which actually makes me
like the show more because then I gotta watch the
ending of Romulus, like this is just Aliens direction?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why did they do that? And then I see something
fresh and new in Alien Earth.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I'm like, they should always play Robulus right before Alien.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Should we look at super chats.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
We have too? Yes, get your super chats there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling wish Master ninety eight. Thank you
for the five dollars, hey, Tony and Gil. The more
and more these episodes go on with these hybrids are
going to lead to the creation of the Atons, like
call from Resurrection Autons.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Do you remember I think I mentioned in the previous episode.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Do you remember the whole like backstory with Menona Ryder
and Resurrection. Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh, those are like second generation machines, like yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like they werets designed by robots.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, and they they didn't like being told what to
do and they like rebelled and stuff, and they are
like more human like Venonda Ryder's character in that is
pretty interesting because she's like a robot and she has
more sympathy and compassion than anyone on the ship because
everyone else is an asshole, and Ripley's kind of like
half Aliens, so you can't really trust her, right.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
She hates herself for being a robot. She's like comp disgusting.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, yeah, uh so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I part of me would have said, if you asked
me this question like a year ago, I'd been like, no,
they're not gonna mention anything about Resurrection. But as I said,
since Romulus just stole the ending of that movie, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Maybe they will build up daily resurrection. I don't know anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I do like how I think the director of that
movie said, like his kids pointed it out to him.
They're like, you know, this is kind of like what
happened in Resurrection. And he was like, oh yeah, shoot, how.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Do you what the fuck? How do you mess that up?
Hey goo?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Weorking on a terminator movie and uh, I just wrote
the end of the script. Did they fight in a
moulted steel factory?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They get this get this skill? What if the rollbot
goes back in time?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I was like, uh.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Selvester Stallone was saying he has an idea for a
Rocky seven, and he's like it's like he he trains
this really angry kid who's coming up and boxing.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And he trains him. And I'm like, didn't like you.
Did you see Creed?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah? Well one, you tried that in Rocky five and
then you did it to Getting.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You've done it twice.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You've done it twice and it did well the last time.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Let that keep going and I'll watch more Creed movies.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that's so bizarre. It's like, no, you've already already
done this, old man.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Big bro Cook, thank you for the four ninety nine.
Any movies you'd like to see, get a series like this?
I'd want twenty eight months later or a Sunshine show.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Oh I don't understand, because twenty eight months after already exists.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, it's a bit redundant.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Uh No, I actually a Sunshine I don't know a
show in the Sunshine universe.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I don't think what's unique in that universe. It's been
so long since I saw that movie, but I don't
remember there being a big hook that would make that
universe different from this one, other than like the specific
premise of what was happening on that ship.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
The only wiggle room is that they come across the
first failed ship and the crazy guys in there who
killed everyone? I guess you could do a prequel about that,
but then it's like who who cares? Because we already
know that one crazy guy is going to kill the
crew and just wait for the other ship to come
right seven years later, Like it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Well.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The one thing I do remember them saying they had
ideas for more Sunshine, Like I feel like they wanted
to make it a trilogy, so if.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You have to do it again, yeah, what they make
a point to say that there's not enough raw material
on earth to make that anymore, or like we did
it once, we.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Had a backup. We're fucked after this.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But I remember, okay, what other movies should get a series?
I remember Rocky Stallone was saying you wanted to do
a Rocky prequel, so we could do that.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
That'd be boring, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I was like the point of Rocky, you were seeing
the interesting part of it.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
That was the story.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
If there was more interesting stuff before that, that's the
movie they would have made.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I'm trying to think, like, what what kind of like
horror or sci fi or horror sci fi could work.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
H editor.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
A Predator if you went like season by season was
its own unique story that I would.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Do, right if they went animated like Killer of Killers.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, i'd I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I actually think animated is a good way to go
for a lot of these, like Terminator Zero. It gives
you so much more flexibility, like budget wise, and because
it's more niche I feel like they'll be a bit
more hands off in the creative direction.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You go.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, I would love a hell Raiser series. You could
do a lot with that. I mean, they've already done
it with the movies. Like there's people who sing in
many different ways and have different like.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Temptations and stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You can have a lot of fun with like a
hell Raiser series, just you make a very formulaic like hey,
there's a bad guy who finds the box, or it's
a good guy who finds the box and Pinnet comes
at the end. Yeah, that could be a fun one.
I would actually really really dig a hell Raiser series.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That would be cool.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I second that one and then all put mine as
a planning of the apes Yes animated show and the
live action show in the seventies or eighties, but I
feel like you could do that.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Now in this new continuity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Or the series could bridge the gap between the new
and the old continuity, and then they could throw in
the Tim Burton continuity too.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, multiverse.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
The multiverse works every time, people love it.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Uh. But yeah, that's that's what I really could think
about twenty eight years later, Like a show that takes
place in that universe would be really cool to see,
like every year, how it got worse or worse in
the twenty eight days timeline.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, that would be cool, But I just I wouldn't
really trust anybody to do that other than Danny Boyle
and Alex Scarland, and I think there's no way they
would commit.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To a series. Yeah. Yeah, I hope i'd answered your question.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, uh yeah, what else is there? I didn't watch
the preview for next week, but I don't think you
watched previews, right.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
No, usually not. I think I said that in the
first episode.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I was like, we don't watch the previews, and then
you were like, so, anyway, on the preview we saw
so then I was like, what the hell, just start
watching them.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Well, yeah, that's how I get my thumbnails.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I like, look for a shot in the preview. But yeah,
good episode, good episode. Things are moving faster in the show.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Now, yeah, only two left until you have one more
than the finale.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm gonna do my best. I might have to miss
next week, but i'm gonna try not to.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Don't make me do it with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Because I have to shoot the episode.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I have an episode that got rescheduled that day, but
we're doing it early, at like six, so I think
I could wrap it up before the show was.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
All Right, So you heard Tony, there might not be
a stream next week. We'll say you guys should still stream.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
What are you talking about? Wait?
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Can I still stream it to your channel? I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Oh I get to be in Tony's house and I
get to come over and stream from your place.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Right. But yeah, I'm gonna try not to miss next week.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Okay, okay, cool, sounds good. I can't hold it against
you if you do.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But yeah, in the next episode that's gonna be it's
gonna be a while, right, Yeah, there are It's funny.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I wish there were more episodes.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Now that we're at this point, everything was established, we
got the flashback episode.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Things are moving.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm like, oh, can we get like four or five
more episodes to see all this shit go down.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, and they haven't.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't think there's been an announcement for future seasons
other than we know the showrunner wants to do them.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, but hopefully we get more, Yeah, hopefully. I feel
like the I think the buzz has gotten better with
the show. I think on my end, it was weird.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I feel like with this show, you walk from one
world to another. In one world, it's amazing. Like if
you look at what the critics are saying in general,
I feel like it's pretty high praise and then there's
no in between. The average citizen will give like an
in between rating, like ah, the show is okay, it's
got some dumb stuff, but online it's like it's amazing,
it's a masterpiece, it's a return to form.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Or it's like this show is the worst, it's atrocious.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Let me check, let me check.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Uh. Because I said that last episode was really good
and probably won a lot of people over. Adam Does
Movies is still calling his recaps recrap.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
I meant to say, welcome to tonight's recrap.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I forgot, so I don't think the show has won
him over yet Gil.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Unfortunately I do.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I have a theory about the show, which is Noah Hawley.
He previously did the Fargo Show where characters and Fargo
act stupid all the time and nobody complains about it
because it's partly done for humor. It's some kind of
satire or whatever. I feel like he brought a lot
of that into this show. But then maybe they were like,
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I don't know if this works, and so they started
to pull back, and then it ends up in this
weird in between spot where you have characters being dumb,
but not for any satirical ends other than corporations are terrible, right, Yeah,
And you know it's on purpose because if you watch
last episode, there's a guy who literally just like doesn't
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understand what certain words mean, Like you know, if you
split your pie in half, you'll have two holes. And
you know, questionable if the character actually fell for it
or was just trying to be nice in giving him pie,
but the fact that he thought he would fall for
it says that he's used to people in this world
falling for such stupid things. Yeah, so it's to me,
it's clearly on purpose, Like it's not just sloppy writing.
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I just don't know to what end, and so my
only theory is they were trying for some satirical angle
that I feel like, isn't there enough? So you end
up in this weird in between spots that just doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Maybe maybe it will make sense at some point though,
maybe maybe once it's done to look back and be like, actually,
that was perfect the whole time.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
In episode eight, they're all going to pull these alien
worms out of their brains and be.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Like, we were infective? What were we doing? You open
that door before?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
How come nobody's monitoring all these kids.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Because he works?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Why is the door to feed the alien so easy
to break?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like, I know he's super strong, but like that door
should be stronger than him.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Really?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, it's the gas leak season from Community? Do you
know about that?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So, Dan Harmon was running that show. He got fired
for a season and then they brought him back. So
anytime they're referred to events from that season, these characters
were acting out of character, wasn't the writing wasn't as good.
They would say, oh, I remember that gas leak last year,
so they wrote it all off. It's like we were
all acting different because of a gas leak.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
That's pretty funny. It's pretty funny. Oh funny enough. This
episode was titled to fly.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I think me and Daniel we're talking last week about
like he thought it was gonna be like a breaking
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It wasn't a bottle episode.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
I've only learned recently that people don't like that episode.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I remember hearing that at the time, and I was like,
I loved that episode.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
I don't know, I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Used to that where like, like twenty eight years later,
I'm like, that was amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Well, I just people are like it was just in
one place, like, yeah, it's a bottle episode. Other shows
have this, Like I understood what it was, but I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I loved I feel like last week's live stream is
a bottle episode. You guys couldn't afford the budget to
have me there, but I enjoyed. I listened to listening
to the first ten minutes of it, just you and
Daniel talking past each other. Daniel's like, oh, yeah, I
remember that bottle episode, and You're like, well, that's not
really a bottle episode.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
And then you were like, what'd you think of that
guy getting his head ripped off? And then Daniel was
just like yeah, so also just just I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, really great job, Gil, Hey hear you?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
You were just so quiet.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm sorry I had the other like I. It was
a mess, all right, it was a mess, but I
still did it, Gil.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Okay, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I didn't pull a Gill and just not show up.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
All right, Maybe next week we'll see I do it
next week.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Well, last thing, look what I found.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
You got it?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
I got half of it.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So there are the Oreos with Reese's filling, and then
there are the Reeses with little bits of Oreo in them.
That's the one I'm really interested in, but it is
sold out everywhere. The only thing I can get my
hands on was the Oreos with the Reese's filling, and
my quick review is that, yeah, they're pretty good, but
I feel.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Like the shell of an Oreo.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
It's not like milk chocolate, where it's super creamy, which
is why the cream is such a nice contrast to
the chocolate outside. Okay, so when you get rid of
the cream and you replace it with peanut butter, it
ends up being pretty heavy.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
It's a little bit too rich.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
They're not bad. I'm gonna keep eating them, but I'm
looking forward to.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
The true Ese's version. I had them on order. I
think they'll be here at the end of the week,
so hopefully I can report.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'll dedicated yards of the reces.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You gave me so much shit for reviewing twenty eight
Day Star and Sandra Bullock in our episode as.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
A joke, and here you are going on a rant
like really looking down the or.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
The end of the episode. I waited until the end
you started.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I was like everyone always says on YouTube, the most
important thing is retaining that attention right at the start,
and you call it what's the best twenty eight Days
Later movie? The first twenty minutes is talking about Sandra
Bullocks twenty eight Days and I'm like, Tony, my time
is valuable, and I'm watching twenty eight Days and like
preparing thoughts on it. And then when I turned down
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twenty eight months later, I was like, Tony, I have
to draw the line somewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I'm not watching this.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I love. I got one comment that was like screaming
at me for the bit. I just replied, bit Q, yeah,
I love.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Your your commitment to the bit. That's never in doub.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Problem I have. But anyway, thank you. For breaking down
the rio. The recis OREO. Yeah, oh, it's just an update.
I forget if I mentioned before. I finally found the
Jason beer. I finally found the Jason site. I reviewed
it over on the second channel. I did a live
stream from the same bar at my sister's house that
I did last episode. Uh so, yeah, we both finally
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found some products we wanted to consume after that.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
So what was the gave everyone a little maybe, don't
say how it was, give a little tease so they
watch your video.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
We had four flavors.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
We really liked one and one was okay and the
other two were terrible.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
But you'll have to go and watch and see which
one it is.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
That's good. That's a good tease.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
I actually I met Jason because I went to Halloween
Horror Nights at Universal.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Oh oh oh, I didn't realize you were down there. Yeah, oh,
I didn't know that. Royce texted me. He said, the
Friday thirteenth Mays is awesome?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
At first, I was a little disappointed because it was
so repetitive. It was just like Jason pops out, Jason
pops out.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
And it's the new Jason right, the new face.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
The it happened so fast it was hard for the register.
But in the second half of the Mace got more creative.
They started bringing in like different variations of Jason and stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
Say it was good. Yeah, they had the drinks there too.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
But yeah, I say the in terms of there's all
these videos that are like the ten foods you have
to try a Halloween Horror Nights.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I mean tried a bunch of the food there.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I'll say, you don't need to try any of it
is all terrible.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, most theme parks just just grab the cheapest thing
you can. Who cares, don't go nuts. Don't drink butter
beer at Universal.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
It's just it's pretty tasty though it's just.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Birch beer with like a buttery topping. You could just
buy birch beer and not have the butter. It's actually better.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, I mean Rob k in the Chat's like, yo,
you can just buy oreos and dip them in peanut.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Butter and don't even start it on the flame and
mo no fire, no Nike will bullshit. All right, now
we're reviewing theme park food.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
We should wrap I know, having fun. I don't want
it to end Okay, I have one more thing. Okay,
I have a theory I've been working on because I'm
trying to reconcile why I keep having such a different
opinion from everybody else on certain things.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yes, like twenty eight years later, for example.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Although I'm on the same boat with you, actually let
most people I don't know, I feel like a lot
of people I know liked it. But then again, I
think I'm only talked about Lauren Soda. She loved it.
So you and Lauren are enough for me to be like,
this movie's good.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Right, But in an Alien are put in a similar
boat where I'm not saying I love the show, I
wish it was better. Actually, I have a question if
we weren't reviewing the show every week, would you be
watching it like religiously or you have to watch it
as soon as it comes.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Out as soon as it came out. If I wasn't
a reviewer, as someone who has been burnt by the
Alien franchise over and over and over again, I probably
would have waited until it was done, okay, like or
at least the first season was done, and then I
would have binged it Goscha. But since I review it,
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and I know a lot about Alien.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I had to.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I was always going to review this. I wasn't planning
to do live recaps for every episode. You came up
with that idea.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But I was always going to watch this as it aired.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
But No, if I was just a regular Joe Schmo
didn't talk about this, I would have waited until it
was done.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
I think probably the same for me.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I would have waited and then I would have asked you, like,
is it worth watching?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah? I would have decided, yes, that's this kind of show.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Anyway, I know I was going on a tangent there,
and now I just feel really tired, So I'm just
gonna shut that down. We'll pick it up another time.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, I'm on a lack of sleep. I was on
our call yesterday and then you get home super late.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
It's like, yo, could you stop talking about oreos and
wrap this up?
Speaker 4 (51:46):
All right? Everybody, thank you and have a good night.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
At least one of us, possibly both of us, will
be here next week, but definitely we'll be here the
following week for the finale. We'll be live at nine
thirty like every week, and we'll break it all down.
So thank you, everyone, and have a good night
Tonight, we are discussing Alien Earth episode six, titled The Fly.
I'm Gil from one take here.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
With Tony from Hack the Movies and.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Tony, why don't you tell everybody our fun little name
of the game here?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, in space, no one can hear you scream, but
they can hear you super chat.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's right, we'll be listening.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We got it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Actually last episode, I think we got our most super
chats yet, it was the one that you weren't here for.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think I'm think maybe that's a side. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Wait, it is not because I wasn't here, but because
there was only one of us from one take.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It was just the right number of people from one take.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh. But Gil, before we get into tonight's episode, you
weren't here. You picked like the worst time to go
on another vacation. It was like the most like praised
episode of the show so far. Even people who don't
like it like the show liked it. And I'm like,
of course, Gil, this is this.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
One, thus proving that what people really want is just
more of the same. They just wanted them to remake
Alien in TV form.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
How did just think about my thoughts?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Where I'm like, oh, this is what alien would to
look like with more enhanced effects and shooting and more violence,
and it would look kind of dumb to see that
alien running around the ship.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How did you feel? Did you like?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I liked the episode, even though it was a little silly.
How did you feel?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I liked it for a lot of the same reasons.
I think the thing that stood out the most for me, though,
And I kind of hinted at this with my super
chat last week where I said my theory for why
so many of the characters are dumb is because it's
hard to write a really intelligent character, so instead you
can just turn down the IQ of every other character
and then they seem really intelligent. But I feel like
we've been watching a bunch of morons like bump into
(01:52):
each other and scramble around, and then Marrow walks in
because he's the only one talking sense, he's not getting
distracted by anything. Every time people start like veering off topic,
He's like, there's an alien Lewis. I found him just
it was very satisfying watching him. I think I was
worried like everybody else, like another flashback episode, not anotherism
(02:13):
we've seen more in this show, but just in general.
Anytime a TV show like gets momentum, it's like, let's
do the flashback episode. But I actually found it really
satisfying and getting annoyed at the characters being dumb. It
made me excited to relive that moment from episode one
with a lady's knocking on the door and he's like,
I'm not letting you in.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Uh yeah, I really enjoyed it. But tonight's episode, we're back.
We're back into the main timeline here. I really dug
it say that about every episode, but I'm like, this
is really starting to feel like the show.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I really want it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
We repast the character introductions, We've set up all the
motivations and stuff. Now let's see Shika really hit the
fan and Sit is hitting the fan this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, we finally saw what was in that boldous plant
thing that's been growing.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I thought that would be a bigger They showed it
in the last episode, but I couldn't tell that was
the plant I saw. Uh No, the plant has the
tentacle coming out of it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Oh, so where did the flies come from?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think those might be those leeches?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Those are okay, I.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Could be wrong because we can't remember what was it
A five species.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's the bold, the eye, the alien, the leeches.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I guess alien leeches.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I guess the fly. Well, I said the alien. Oh yeah,
alien eyeball flower thing leeches. So either the flies are
a thing that we haven't really seen yet or we forgot.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Might be a new thing. Actually, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I liked the episode overall too. I mean I would say,
like for better or worse. I feel like it carried
on pretty much all of this show's traits consist, which is,
this is the stuff I love that's kind of wrapped
in a lot of the dumber stuff. I feel like
I had to bring my metaphorical Daniel hat that I'll
put on from time to sign this episode because we
need to have the complainer represented while we're talking through
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all this.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I liked right away we see the alien, and I
like that it's like constantly shedding if you saw it
have like pieces of skin like coming off of it,
because we never really get to see the shedding process
in the other movies except for Alien resurrect Our, Alien
Versus Predator Requiem, where you can't see it so it
doesn't matter. So I like that it's growing really really fast.
(04:37):
That was the thing, Like the Facezigger was supposed to
stay on you for days, chess Burser comes out like
a day later, and then the thing grows really fast.
The movies have been fucking that up, so it's nice
to see like develop how it would in the first movie.
And it's cool that they actually get to see it
this time. I know it doesn't really work for horror.
You don't want to see it, but we've already had
that so many times.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's fun. I'm like, hey, look there it is. It's good.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, that's like the point keep making, which is like
the mystique is gone. Like we've seen the xenomore for
a million times, so now let's look at it from
another angle, like the more funds or the fun sci
fi angle, and like to your point, not only are
we seeing it grow kind of slowly, but now we
get to spend more time with it in each stage
and it's fun seeing it crawl around and it's kind
of like Terrible Two's like toddler adolescent stage and just
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seeing Wendy's interactions with it and the way it kind
of like looks back at her. I mean I think
one of the things the show does best is just
the way that aliens stare at you, the sheep and
the xenomorph, and you just see, like I think I
see intelligent behind their eyes or in the sheep's case,
one eye.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, or the alien's case no eyes yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, just like a curling lip that it's weird.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm really wondering if I know she was weird to
begin with, Wendy or Mazzie as they're now calling her
by her proper Christian name. I wonder if they're starting
to like manipulate her because she's she has a whole
thing with her brother where the brother is just like, yeah,
come back with me and will be a normal, regular family.
(06:05):
It's like, she's not gonna happen to you, idiot. But
I feel like she's just like, look, she's starting to
sympathize with the alien a little too much.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, like didn't need to be here?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is She's like, there's a lot of organisms that have
a hive like mentality, and maybe I don't want to
be human. I'm like, oh, is she communicating with the
alien whatever psychic thing they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
They're like, hey, you're one of us. Right, you're talking
to us, we're talking to you.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One of my favorite lines in the episode is when
she says the pronunciation is tricky. I love just when
someone makes a statement where it takes you a second
or two to realize like the shocking thing behind that,
which is she's starting to learn their language, or at least
she thinks she's communicating with it. And you know, I
feel like the turn she's taking would annoy me, like
(06:47):
the idea of you've got a robot, they're gonna turn
on humanity. It's the most obvious route to go, but
I think here it's a little bit more interesting, at
least the angle through which they're doing it. On one hand,
she has that thing where she says something like I
want to see the world as it really is.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I don't want to feel the world.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
So it's like she doesn't want to be distracted and
clouded by emotions. She's following the boy Cavalier route of
I want to gain as much intelligence as possible, become
a super genius like him. And then there is probably
the one that's the most similar to what we've seen
before is where yeah, she's starting to sympathize with the
alien over people people kill each other. Yeah, this alien
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didn't ask to be here, and she starts to see
them more as individuals. The thing tried to kill us.
She's like, not that xenomorph, that was a different one. Yeah,
if she like wells to find out they have a
bit of a hive mind, that she might start to
change her tune a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
She's like, they don't kill each other because alien resurrection
hasn't happened yet. And I didn't see that scene where
they kill the one alien to break up. What happens
when a queen just like gets introduced at some point?
Will she just like listen to it? Or was like,
I just have to minute, I just have to communicate
with the queen to tell her aliens to stop killing us.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like, that's not gonna work late.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's gonna be that scene in the Simpson where the
kids have to choose if they want to go back
to their family or go with like the Flanders. On
one side, like the Flanders, it's all wonderful and awesome.
Then she looks back at the Simpsons like in a
swamp and.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was Homer, Lisa and Bart that Maggie wasn't sure
up and she's like, okay, I guess like the animals.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So the equivalent will be the Queen shows up and
that's going to make up his mind. I do have
a feeling a queen is going to come at some point,
because I feel like everybody's sleeping on the Xenomorph. People
in the reviews are talking about how it's kind of
weird and the Xenomorph is really not the most dangerous thing.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
On to that, I think maybe seems even worse.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
But I think I think is really starting to steal
the show. It's really starting to steal the show now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I feel like he's got to be so annoyed at
the end of this episode, he's like, the egg door
is open.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The door is open. Somebody opened my door. Come on.
And I love how just when all this crap is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Going down, like when Slightly is having Arthur get face hugged,
you have the xenomorph watching, you have the sheep watching,
you have kursh watching over the camera. Just a lot
of people just watching all this chaos going on.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What the hell is wrong with the security at this place?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Why is there not a room just full of.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
People whose job gil it is to just look at
the cameras constantly.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No one is ever look that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Uh he gets at By the way, the flies also
have acid. I guess they have face. Yes, face acid
is just a common form of blood that we're.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah to them, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're like, wait, how come when I cut you it
didn't like burn a hole in my eye?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Uh? Yeah, So this kid is dead for a while
a while, and no one I mean, the one person
who checks the camera is the well him, but like
the who's the robot name the Timothy Elephant robot? Oh
cursh cursh, who's being weird and himself, So we really
need to figure out what's up with him and the
(10:10):
guy they fire right in the beginning, which we should
talk about that plot line. But yeah, that guy they
fire is like the one who realizes that he finally
gets a notification after a while. Again, after a while,
he gets a notification and it was auto monitor in
his room.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I guess he had a lot of things on his mind.
He did just lose his job.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
But I'm just like, this is no one paying attention here,
how would it all?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna put my Daniel hat on for a second,
and yeah, this is like the monumental leap in technology
for humanity. You've got these like one trillion dollar apiece
hybrids walking around the first time a human brain has
been downloaded into a robot. You don't have like a
I guess they have a tracker on it, but you
don't have like an alert system setup. That's like, if
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one of these goes down or something goes wrong with it,
send out an alert like a ten bell alarm, like
we lost.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
One, here's here's another one. Bye.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
By the way, when he is trying to give him
information on Wendy, he like looks at the camera and
he's like, I gotta be quiet. But me, who's been
watching a episode, Like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Don't's watch what he's watching it.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He's just there for show. I think. I don't think
it's even real. Uh was I just talking about? Uh?
Sorry I trailed off.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
What was I to you talking about? Arthur?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The lab? The lab, the lab?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Why aren't there I know that you can't have humans
there because the biology, the the face face huggers want
a biological hosts and everything. But why aren't there just
like three or four hybrids in there? At all times,
because that thing with the door where he rips the
door off and he's just like, oh no, I guess
I'll just open the door to the fly thing. Someone
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else canna be like, that's a bad idea, yes, Or
if he wasn't there, they could have let him out
when he got locked in, right.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
At least, so you can write off him making a
portus decision because he's a kid, so he's stupid. It's
there's yeah, there's no precautions being taken anywhere here or
anywhere else in this whole facility. I'll point it out before.
I mean, I think someone in the comments already pointed
this out too. But when Arthur comes in and he
sees I think his name is Tootles, it was like,
(12:20):
first off, you're sending somebody into a lab that's gonna
have to deal with the five of the most dangerous
species humanity's ever come into contact with. Send Tootles, he's
the man we can count on. Arthur comes in, he
sees Toodles dead, and he just opens the door and
runs in. Whatever killed him is still in there, and
he's machinery. You're a squishy human. You probably don't stand
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a chance against them they're dead.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, just all help and be like, hey, that guy's
dead in their.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Now, so you got fired get out there.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Well I love to help, but you know I don't
work here anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I have a theory though about Kersh, because there is
the question what is he up to and why is
he not reporting? He's been watching all of this, He's
been watching slightly talking Tomorrow. He watched everything go down
in the lab, and when boys like everything okay, he's
like affirmative, I don't. I feel like the obvious route
is that there's some form of sabotage going on. Like
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every previous alien movie, he wants things to go wrong,
and maybe he can't do it himself, but he's like batman,
I don't have to save you.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I can stand back and let it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, he's got like a weird relationship with Morrow too.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They're on the elevator and they're talking about like the difference,
like how he's a cyborg and he's full synthetic.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I wonder how he's being manipulated or how he
became sentient enough to want to betray Cavalier to like
what end.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, maybe I'm giving too much credit to the show.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But I feel like that's so obvious.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I hope that's not the route they go, And I
wonder if part of the twist will be that he's
Curse is not actually breaking any orders, that what he's
been told to do is give as much leeway as
he can to the hybrids. We want to see what
they do, even if it means some of them getting destroyed.
Don't let Wendy get hurt. That's kind of maybe the
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one hard line boy will draw, but we know that
he really doesn't. He's very overestimates his own intelligence, so
you could see him being egotistical and saying I can
handle this. Something's going to go wrong over confidence. So
maybe he's basically said, like, give them as much leeway
as you can, and only when it gets to a
boiling point and you really need to pull me in,
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do that. And so it's up to Curse to decide.
It's still a relatively contained situation. Arthur died. I don't
care we lost Toodles, but it's not yet at that
point where I have to raise the red flag and say, boy,
we may have a problem.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Also, letting it happen revealed who like the mole is,
it's what's his face? Who's working formorrow? How he needs
to get like human host for the alien right right?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh, he already knew that, or Kurse knew it because
he was listening.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So then he's checking. I think maybe he's like building
a case. It's just he's letting it get way through
out of hand when he's already has the proof. But
in this robot mind, maybe he's like, I need to
read one hundred thousand percent sure, classic alien fashion.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The vents are gigantic and super clean. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Two lessons I've taken from movies is if you go
into the sewers, you will find a kingdom underground. And
if you go into vents, it's basically like a smaller
hallway that can get you anywhere you need to go.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And it's always super good.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Open up anything in your house right now, it's gonna
be pristine in there.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Can we talk about why Arthur got fired? Please?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Because Redhead, our favorite dirty faced robot lady, after her
little meltdown last episode or two episodes ago, they put
her asleep and they're going through her and they're realizing
her problem is not physical, has nothing to do with
the machinery.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
She's not pregnant.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes, she's not pregnant.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They said that she had trauma going into this, and
I'm like, all right, went out. Now, you guys are
really mean. I thought maybe they she was stupid, and
they thought it like, you.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Guys are really mean. She should not be in.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
This program or at least not walking around, like at
least he's a liability.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You don't want to give that one super robot strength.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So the one guy, the fancy British man who's like
second in command, I guess the boy cavalier.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh yeah, I looked up his name, Adam, Like at.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yes, he's like, hey, uh, delete all her memories right
up until before the crash.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And slow her processing speed or something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yes, And they're like, no, he can't do that. Or
Arthur's like I can't do that, and he's like, all right,
you're fired. Your wife's co works here, which is awkward,
but you're fired goodbye.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, which I I like him standing up for what
he believes there. I kind of wish we it's weird
that their husband and wife like it gets brought up
a couple of times here and there, and to me,
it kind of feels like the reverse engineering of Okay,
Arthur's probably gonna die. He gets face hugged at the
end of the episode. No one's gonna really care. So
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we got to throw some character development in there, because
so far all we've established is that he has low
sperm count. Yeah, so let's say on top of that
he's Dame's husband. But it's like after he got fired
for standing up for something and her not backing him
and saying I don't need him, I can do this myself.
There's no conversation between them after that we see, so
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it kind of feels like she doesn't care and the
show doesn't care that he dies.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So you think maybe like in writing or like planning it,
they're like, let's make them a couple, just so there's
some element.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, to try and add some dramatic weight to what's
gonna to what happened to both him dying and to that,
are you going to stand up for these hybrid kids
or not? So now it's like, on top of standing
up for your principal, you're going against your wife.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So then Redhead, they race her memory, they do all
that stuff, but they live for whatever reason, they didn't
tell everyone they were gonna do this. So she wakes
up and Wendy's like, remember the crash and all the aliens.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It was when you said you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And she's like, what the hell are you t You
said they slowed down her processing, So she's like.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What I did? What She's like, I don't remember. I
don't remember.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like, you can't just erase seven weeks and then not
tell everyone to like dance around certain subjects.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You've just did the whole thing that you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Just Especially, they've kind of positioned Wendy as not exactly
the confidant, but she is kind of like the quasi
leader of the kids, like she's the one who initially
welcomed them all. So I feel like Dame would have
pulled her aside and listen, Wendy nibs had a little
proper and.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
We nibbed it in the bud.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well, we're gonna need you to not bring up some
of the stuff that happened for you last week.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It's like fifty first Dates.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
How the whole town is in on it with the
girl's memory. Remember they all pretend I never watched that movie.
It's all right, So Gil, I'm gonna pretend to like
Happy Gilmore too, even though it's ducks but didn't watch
fifty First Dates, which granted isn't great of a movie.
But she remembers the same day over and over again.
(19:28):
She has brain damage, and the whole town's in on it.
So they have like the same newspaper over and over. Okay,
but then there's some days where like something breaks her system,
like she gets new information, she doesn't know how to
handle it, and she like goes nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then dan Aykroy makes a joke about his balls
being big. Uh, you should check it out. It's the
tail end of his good movies.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So we can only hope that that's basically the structure
of episode seven.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, well, what I'm saying is they should have went
to everyone be like, don't mention the crash, don't mention
the alien to her.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We're gonna ease her into this or as soon as
she wakes up their alien. There was a.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Minimum monitor her is just especially her, she's psychologically sensitive
at the moment and has been, and so you just
throw her out there into the deep end.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Ways.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I feel like we just set up like if this
was a sitcom, that'd be a Kramer moment where everyone's
on board and be like, don't tell her about anything
that Kramer walks say like, hey remember that alien what Cramer?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I will say, like, this is some of the stuff
I do love in the show though, like putting aside
some of the craziness around it, but getting at that
question of what makes us human? And so when you
start talking about erasing some of her memories, slowing down
her processing speed, like it brings up that question of
how many of these little tweaks would you have to
make to then make her a different at what point
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of view essentially killed someone and replace them with an
entirely other person.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The way they phrase it in the show is that
we don't.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Know what impact this would have on her identity, her functioning, psychology.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We're getting into some swamp thing territory. I don't know
how much you know about swamp thing the DC character.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, I know a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I read.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I think all of Alan Moore's run.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, Alan Moore's run is the one that introduced It's like,
oh no, he's actually not that guy who turned into a.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Platf anatomy lesson. Yeah, that was the name of the first.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, it's just like, oh, no, swamp Thing this whole
time has just been its own organism that just got
that guy's memory. So this is this whole identity crisis. Yeah,
so I like how this show is doing that. It's like,
are we the same person if we were just copied
into this, or are we a new thing that just
has all that person's experiences and stuff, which is inter
That's one thing I like about that swamp Thing run.
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I never got more than a few episodes in the
new show. I heard it was good, and then they
canceled it.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Then it canceled it before it even came out.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that's why I did watch it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I liked what I saw of it. I really want
to finish it. It just didn't stream anywhere after first.
But anyway, I like that idea, like am I my
own unique thing or am I just a copy? And
I think the show is exploring it pretty well, especially
with a dirty redhead. She's the one who's struggling with
this the book, whereas Wendy is like, I'm only on
just being a robot. This is great. The other ones
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just aren't even asking the questions. They're just pretending like
nothing has changed. Like I wearn slightly bigger bodies. Yeah, well,
Guy's like, oh man, being grown up sucks, And it's
just funny seeing an adult say it was.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It was one moment.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
There were a couple moments like a little heartbreaking this episode.
Like one is when Joe is talking to Wendy. He's like,
don't worry, I'm working on a plan to get us
out of here, and she's like, I don't really want
to go.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I kind of like it here.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I feel like it maybe would have landed a little
more effectively if at any point we believed she would
have left with him, but they'd they kind of went
right from she's your sister too, she's not quite who
you remember, and there's never any hope that she was
going to go with him. Yeah, but it does kind
of work that that we know that, but he doesn't
realize it yet, so you have that moment of realization.
(23:03):
But also when I think Smee is his name, Slightly's
friend and he's like, why can't we just play games
like we used to, and Slightly He's like, I gotta
take care of this one thing and then we can
play all the games you want. And I kind of
felt bad for him, and at the same time, I
was like, I don't know if I do I need
this story in this show.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Well whatever, I'll go with it.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, it's because it's not why I watch Alien, But yeah,
it was a nice moment. I loved slightly this whole
episode because I mean, at no point do you have
any confidence that he's going to be.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Able to pull off what Marrow wants.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
He really lucks into it accidentally. He's trying to get
the brother just because he hates the brother. Yeah, but
there's so many other.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Options he can go to.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I don't know why he's just lasered on the brother
other than he hates him for personal reason.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I feel like part of it is like they've set
up this idea that he cares about doing the right thing,
so he's convinced himself the brother is a bad guy.
It's okay if I kill him or put him in
harm's way, right right.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And the brother had that one scene where they pull
them away with the other like soldiers.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I forget what they were doing though, and.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
They were on patrol.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
They were like, I think they're putting out extra patrol
because Tani is gonna be sending in some soldiers, which.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We totally forgot to talk about the boy cavalier you
miss You Tani debate or negotiations where they're just throwing
billions of dollars around. He's got his fucking feet up
on the table the grossest ship.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was excited for this, for this confrontation between the
two of them, and it did not disappoint. Not only
did he get one foot, we got a second foot
bretting his legs on the and their dirty feet too.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and he's picking them like, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
See at least here this is him disrespecting you Tani.
So there's some it's not there's a motivation behind the action.
I did find the scene overall disappointing because I wanted
you Tani to be a really formidable adversary, not only
because it would just be nice to see someone like
smack the smug grin off Boy's face, but also I
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think it would just be more interesting if there was
somebody that could actually stand up against Boy. But the
moment he brings up like well I could tell everyone
about these alien specimens, she immediately folds and it's like
that was the most obvious move he was going to
bring to the table, and she seemed totally unprepared for it.
She was completely thrown when he brought that up.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
And she's like fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, and she gets what she wants. She's like, oh,
and after six weeks, we'll give him back. She's like no,
it's like, well, there's a rule.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's six weeks the Brubaker Accords.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
It's like, I'll give him back after six weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It has a nice bit of world building, like they
have these accords. I guess about how to handle alien specimens.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You need a six week quarantine.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
It just tells you, you know, I've always been curious about,
like when did first contact happen in this world? So
that gives you some idea that they've had enough experience.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, to have a chords. Well, the predator obviously every
time the predator.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Why do you keep forgetting gil?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, I like that whole negotiation. That was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But I like that she's still gonna have troops go
in and kill them. But Mar's just like, we're gonna
do some chaos there. You gotta really, because they're, like
you said, they're increasing their security. So he's just like,
let's let some of those fuckers out, take care of
a lot of them for us, and then we'll just grab.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Them when we go in.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, because I think I mentioned the previous episode that
there's like that scene from the first trailer where you
think it's aliens coming out of the water and it's
soldiers and his team coming in.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, so I'm excited to get to that level where
they just storm the beach.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I love when they're on patrol in Joe's with them.
A couple of things. I love one where they bring
up how you know, rumor has it Utani's gonna be
doing a full frontal assault, and then what are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
We're on an island.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm like, nobody in history has ever attacked an island before.
We don't have the techono to attack an island in
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Do you think maybe he was confused and he's just like,
which part of the island is the front?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't know where an island is that the front?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't have a front, will I saw good luck
with that. This island's a circle. It's like, oh shit, yeah,
like Morrow's cyborg brain, like the robot part of it's
gonna I cannot locate the front.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Full frontal assault, Like why are they gonna be naked
when they attack us? I don't understand these things. That
seems like a problem.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I also love Joe's subtlety. He's like, boats are cool, right,
My dad used to take me on a boat. Have
you guys ever been on a boat before? Like Joe,
whatever you're thinking, just shut it down.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But yeah, I uh, I dug this episode.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It was fun seeing like what aliens were gonna get
out of those pods?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, the containment field thing.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I'm trying to think what else happened in the uh?
Do we cover all like the big plot poins?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I'm scrolling up and down my notes here to
see if he missed anything big. He jumped around, But
I feel like we covered most of it. I was
gonna say, going back to Kursh and Marrow, I feel
like when they were on the elevator together and they
had that kind of tense conversation where Kursh is like,
I'm awesome, I'm a machine. He's basically like a machine supremacist,
like he sees himself as pure and Marrow is still
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part human, and Marrow is such an enigma of a character,
and I don't really know where he stands on this
issue or if he even cares about it. Because he
does snipe back at Kersh where he tells him how
he's obsolete, like they just introduced these new kid hybrids. Yeah,
but I feel like he's not necessarily subscribing to that belief.
(28:45):
It's more like he's just trying to insult Kersh back. Yes,
he's just fighting back. So I don't know if Marow
cares about the fact that he isn't entirely human.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I guess we had the one scene early on in.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
The series where he was all sweaty and he was
talking about like the orders he was being given, but
that had less to do with him being machine and
more to do with him getting orders from a corporation
to do horrible things. But I guess we don't fully
understand his nature, so we don't know to what extent
when he gets those orders, does he have any choice
to actually disobey them?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know how much?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well he he did disobey you, Tanny, That's true. When
she's like come back, He's like nope. But could that
be like whatever's in his head programmed He's like, well,
my my program to fulfill my mission overrides direct orders
from the right.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Maybe if you Telly's grandmother gave the order, They're like, shoot,
we didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
We only programmed it to listen to her and she's dead.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Say the alien looked really good for I mean, toward
the end, I think it was back to being like
a man in the suit or the animatronic. But the
cgi alien, little baby alien, looked fine.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah. And again I'm glad it grew really fast.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I'm like, no, let's not do baby ale Let's not
try to make this the next We don't need baby
Zeno more iph we just need it for a little bit.
I was afraid we'd be stuck with baby Zenamore for
a few episodes. I'm like, that's not I know other
movies make them grow too fast, but they also don't
grow that slow.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like you've got you have baby Groot, you have the
baby in Jurassic World rebirth.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yes, alien franchise need Yeah, baby Yoda.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
There was a few others, Oh, baby Nut, mister Peanut.
There was a couple of commercials.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So there was a baby Nut. He's not as remembered
as the other ones.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Well, where where do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Where do you think we're going with the Wendy alien connection?
So she's talking to this thing, she's learning their language.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, I think, Uh, I don't know where it's gonna
end up. Honestly, I think the aliens are going to
try to recruit her or something, because I.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Say, it's the most interesting part of the show to me,
Like I'm glued to the screen whenever she's talking to
that alien.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The funny thing is the alien it's probably want to
study an experiment with her, really, because they're like, how
is something that's not us communicating with us like this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Because yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
The alien is just playing along with her.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't think it.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
In my mind, it'd be weird if the aliens like, yeah,
I am your friend, it actually attacks her the one
time she's talking to us.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, I think the alien can recognize like, this is
something that shouldn't be able to talk to me, and
I really need to study it because it's a threat.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, we also don't know like, Okay, she's working on
the pronunciation, but does she know what she's saying? Is
this an actual language or is it really like rudimentary communication,
Like we don't know how intelligent that thing is, Like
we don't know if we know that there's some degree
of xenomorphon intelligence, but even that, I don't know if
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it's individualized or you've got to be part of the hybrid.
And then a lot of it's coming from the queen.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, it it depends on Sometimes when there's less aliens,
they're a little bit smarter, hmmm, because I guess at
some point when there's this hundreds, they're like, well, most
of us are cat and fodder.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One of us will one of us will succeed. We'll
just throw us.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We'll just throw a bunch of us in front of
the guns for ten minutes, right, So yeah, I guess
Also a lot of the aliens we see aliens are
probably the oldest aliens we've seen because there was two
weeks between them being infected and them starting the hive.
But yeah, so we've always dealt with very very young
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aliens that were like fresh. But I feel like we're
gonna spend a little bit of time with this one here,
and now we have another alien on the way, so
I don't know which one from the preview we saw
that's gonna be running around in the woods. I don't
know if it's the one that's already in containment or
one the one that's gonna come out of Arthur right
at this point. But yeah, I really don't know where
it's gonna end up with Wendy and I kind of
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like that, I don't know where it's gonna end up,
because it is disappointing sometimes where you just call what's
gonna happen in the show, But this one, I've been
I've been thrown curveballs left and right here.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So yeah, I think when you texted me the picture
of boy with his feet on the table, yeah, I'm
gonna throw up, Like, yeah, if you told me, or
when I was told a couple of years ago, they're
making an alien show. Like if I were making a
list of things I expect to see, that wouldn't have
been anywhere on the list.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Unless you told me. Tarantino is directed.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, Tarantino's Like this is the best movie ever.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
This movie is ignoring Romulus's edition of a cocoon. They're
getting rid of that element. I think that was just
specific to the aliens on Romulus. Yeah, yeah, Yeah on Fax,
Romulus played before the show again, which actually makes me
like the show more because then I gotta watch the
ending of Romulus, like this is just Aliens direction?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Why did they do that? And then I see something
fresh and new in Alien Earth.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I'm like, they should always play Robulus right before Alien.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Should we look at super chats.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
We have too? Yes, get your super chats there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling wish Master ninety eight. Thank you
for the five dollars, hey, Tony and Gil. The more
and more these episodes go on with these hybrids are
going to lead to the creation of the Atons, like
call from Resurrection Autons.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Do you remember I think I mentioned in the previous episode.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Do you remember the whole like backstory with Menona Ryder
and Resurrection. Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh, those are like second generation machines, like yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like they werets designed by robots.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, and they they didn't like being told what to
do and they like rebelled and stuff, and they are
like more human like Venonda Ryder's character in that is
pretty interesting because she's like a robot and she has
more sympathy and compassion than anyone on the ship because
everyone else is an asshole, and Ripley's kind of like
half Aliens, so you can't really trust her, right.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
She hates herself for being a robot. She's like comp disgusting.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, yeah, uh so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I part of me would have said, if you asked
me this question like a year ago, I'd been like, no,
they're not gonna mention anything about Resurrection. But as I said,
since Romulus just stole the ending of that movie, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Maybe they will build up daily resurrection. I don't know anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I do like how I think the director of that
movie said, like his kids pointed it out to him.
They're like, you know, this is kind of like what
happened in Resurrection. And he was like, oh yeah, shoot, how.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Do you what the fuck? How do you mess that up?
Hey goo?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Weorking on a terminator movie and uh, I just wrote
the end of the script. Did they fight in a
moulted steel factory?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They get this get this skill? What if the rollbot
goes back in time?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I was like, uh.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Selvester Stallone was saying he has an idea for a
Rocky seven, and he's like it's like he he trains
this really angry kid who's coming up and boxing.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And he trains him. And I'm like, didn't like you.
Did you see Creed?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah? Well one, you tried that in Rocky five and
then you did it to Getting.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
You've done it twice.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You've done it twice and it did well the last time.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Let that keep going and I'll watch more Creed movies.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that's so bizarre. It's like, no, you've already already
done this, old man.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Big bro Cook, thank you for the four ninety nine.
Any movies you'd like to see, get a series like this?
I'd want twenty eight months later or a Sunshine show.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Oh I don't understand, because twenty eight months after already exists.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, it's a bit redundant.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Uh No, I actually a Sunshine I don't know a
show in the Sunshine universe.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I don't think what's unique in that universe. It's been
so long since I saw that movie, but I don't
remember there being a big hook that would make that
universe different from this one, other than like the specific
premise of what was happening on that ship.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
The only wiggle room is that they come across the
first failed ship and the crazy guys in there who
killed everyone? I guess you could do a prequel about that,
but then it's like who who cares? Because we already
know that one crazy guy is going to kill the
crew and just wait for the other ship to come
right seven years later, Like it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Well.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The one thing I do remember them saying they had
ideas for more Sunshine, Like I feel like they wanted
to make it a trilogy, so if.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
You have to do it again, yeah, what they make
a point to say that there's not enough raw material
on earth to make that anymore, or like we did
it once, we.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Had a backup. We're fucked after this.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But I remember, okay, what other movies should get a series?
I remember Rocky Stallone was saying you wanted to do
a Rocky prequel, so we could do that.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
That'd be boring, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I was like the point of Rocky, you were seeing
the interesting part of it.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
That was the story.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
If there was more interesting stuff before that, that's the
movie they would have made.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I'm trying to think, like, what what kind of like
horror or sci fi or horror sci fi could work.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
H editor.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
A Predator if you went like season by season was
its own unique story that I would.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Do, right if they went animated like Killer of Killers.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, i'd I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I actually think animated is a good way to go
for a lot of these, like Terminator Zero. It gives
you so much more flexibility, like budget wise, and because
it's more niche I feel like they'll be a bit
more hands off in the creative direction.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You go.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, I would love a hell Raiser series. You could
do a lot with that. I mean, they've already done
it with the movies. Like there's people who sing in
many different ways and have different like.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Temptations and stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You can have a lot of fun with like a
hell Raiser series, just you make a very formulaic like hey,
there's a bad guy who finds the box, or it's
a good guy who finds the box and Pinnet comes
at the end. Yeah, that could be a fun one.
I would actually really really dig a hell Raiser series.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That would be cool.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I second that one and then all put mine as
a planning of the apes Yes animated show and the
live action show in the seventies or eighties, but I
feel like you could do that.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Now in this new continuity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Or the series could bridge the gap between the new
and the old continuity, and then they could throw in
the Tim Burton continuity too.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, multiverse.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
The multiverse works every time, people love it.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Uh. But yeah, that's that's what I really could think
about twenty eight years later, Like a show that takes
place in that universe would be really cool to see,
like every year, how it got worse or worse in
the twenty eight days timeline.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, that would be cool, But I just I wouldn't
really trust anybody to do that other than Danny Boyle
and Alex Scarland, and I think there's no way they
would commit.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To a series. Yeah. Yeah, I hope i'd answered your question.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, uh yeah, what else is there? I didn't watch
the preview for next week, but I don't think you
watched previews, right.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
No, usually not. I think I said that in the
first episode.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I was like, we don't watch the previews, and then
you were like, so, anyway, on the preview we saw
so then I was like, what the hell, just start
watching them.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Well, yeah, that's how I get my thumbnails.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I like, look for a shot in the preview. But yeah,
good episode, good episode. Things are moving faster in the show.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Now, yeah, only two left until you have one more
than the finale.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm gonna do my best. I might have to miss
next week, but i'm gonna try not to.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Don't make me do it with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Because I have to shoot the episode.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I have an episode that got rescheduled that day, but
we're doing it early, at like six, so I think
I could wrap it up before the show was.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
All Right, So you heard Tony, there might not be
a stream next week. We'll say you guys should still stream.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
What are you talking about? Wait?
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Can I still stream it to your channel? I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Oh I get to be in Tony's house and I
get to come over and stream from your place.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Right. But yeah, I'm gonna try not to miss next week.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Okay, okay, cool, sounds good. I can't hold it against
you if you do.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
But yeah, in the next episode that's gonna be it's
gonna be a while, right, Yeah, there are It's funny.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I wish there were more episodes.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Now that we're at this point, everything was established, we
got the flashback episode.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Things are moving.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm like, oh, can we get like four or five
more episodes to see all this shit go down.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, and they haven't.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't think there's been an announcement for future seasons
other than we know the showrunner wants to do them.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, but hopefully we get more, Yeah, hopefully. I feel
like the I think the buzz has gotten better with
the show. I think on my end, it was weird.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I feel like with this show, you walk from one
world to another. In one world, it's amazing. Like if
you look at what the critics are saying in general,
I feel like it's pretty high praise and then there's
no in between. The average citizen will give like an
in between rating, like ah, the show is okay, it's
got some dumb stuff, but online it's like it's amazing,
it's a masterpiece, it's a return to form.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Or it's like this show is the worst, it's atrocious.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Let me check, let me check.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Uh. Because I said that last episode was really good
and probably won a lot of people over. Adam Does
Movies is still calling his recaps recrap.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
I meant to say, welcome to tonight's recrap.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I forgot, so I don't think the show has won
him over yet Gil.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Unfortunately I do.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I have a theory about the show, which is Noah Hawley.
He previously did the Fargo Show where characters and Fargo
act stupid all the time and nobody complains about it
because it's partly done for humor. It's some kind of
satire or whatever. I feel like he brought a lot
of that into this show. But then maybe they were like,
(42:51):
I don't know if this works, and so they started
to pull back, and then it ends up in this
weird in between spot where you have characters being dumb,
but not for any satirical ends other than corporations are terrible, right, Yeah,
And you know it's on purpose because if you watch
last episode, there's a guy who literally just like doesn't
(43:11):
understand what certain words mean, Like you know, if you
split your pie in half, you'll have two holes. And
you know, questionable if the character actually fell for it
or was just trying to be nice in giving him pie,
but the fact that he thought he would fall for
it says that he's used to people in this world
falling for such stupid things. Yeah, so it's to me,
it's clearly on purpose, Like it's not just sloppy writing.
(43:35):
I just don't know to what end, and so my
only theory is they were trying for some satirical angle
that I feel like, isn't there enough? So you end
up in this weird in between spots that just doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Maybe maybe it will make sense at some point though,
maybe maybe once it's done to look back and be like, actually,
that was perfect the whole time.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
In episode eight, they're all going to pull these alien
worms out of their brains and be.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Like, we were infective? What were we doing? You open
that door before?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
How come nobody's monitoring all these kids.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Because he works?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Why is the door to feed the alien so easy
to break?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like, I know he's super strong, but like that door
should be stronger than him.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Really?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, it's the gas leak season from Community? Do you
know about that?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
So, Dan Harmon was running that show. He got fired
for a season and then they brought him back. So
anytime they're referred to events from that season, these characters
were acting out of character, wasn't the writing wasn't as good.
They would say, oh, I remember that gas leak last year,
so they wrote it all off. It's like we were
all acting different because of a gas leak.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
That's pretty funny. It's pretty funny. Oh funny enough. This
episode was titled to fly.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I think me and Daniel we're talking last week about
like he thought it was gonna be like a breaking
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It wasn't a bottle episode.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
I've only learned recently that people don't like that episode.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I remember hearing that at the time, and I was like,
I loved that episode.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
I don't know, I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Used to that where like, like twenty eight years later,
I'm like, that was amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Well, I just people are like it was just in
one place, like, yeah, it's a bottle episode. Other shows
have this, Like I understood what it was, but I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I loved I feel like last week's live stream is
a bottle episode. You guys couldn't afford the budget to
have me there, but I enjoyed. I listened to listening
to the first ten minutes of it, just you and
Daniel talking past each other. Daniel's like, oh, yeah, I
remember that bottle episode, and You're like, well, that's not
really a bottle episode.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
And then you were like, what'd you think of that
guy getting his head ripped off? And then Daniel was
just like yeah, so also just just I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, really great job, Gil, Hey hear you?
Speaker 4 (45:37):
You were just so quiet.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm sorry I had the other like I. It was
a mess, all right, it was a mess, but I
still did it, Gil.
Speaker 4 (45:46):
Okay, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I didn't pull a Gill and just not show up.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
All right, Maybe next week we'll see I do it
next week.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Well, last thing, look what I found.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
You got it?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
I got half of it.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
So there are the Oreos with Reese's filling, and then
there are the Reeses with little bits of Oreo in them.
That's the one I'm really interested in, but it is
sold out everywhere. The only thing I can get my
hands on was the Oreos with the Reese's filling, and
my quick review is that, yeah, they're pretty good, but
I feel.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Like the shell of an Oreo.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
It's not like milk chocolate, where it's super creamy, which
is why the cream is such a nice contrast to
the chocolate outside. Okay, so when you get rid of
the cream and you replace it with peanut butter, it
ends up being pretty heavy.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
It's a little bit too rich.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
They're not bad. I'm gonna keep eating them, but I'm
looking forward to.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
The true Ese's version. I had them on order. I
think they'll be here at the end of the week,
so hopefully I can report.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'll dedicated yards of the reces.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You gave me so much shit for reviewing twenty eight
Day Star and Sandra Bullock in our episode as.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
A joke, and here you are going on a rant
like really looking down the or.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
The end of the episode. I waited until the end
you started.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I was like everyone always says on YouTube, the most
important thing is retaining that attention right at the start,
and you call it what's the best twenty eight Days
Later movie? The first twenty minutes is talking about Sandra
Bullocks twenty eight Days and I'm like, Tony, my time
is valuable, and I'm watching twenty eight Days and like
preparing thoughts on it. And then when I turned down
(47:28):
twenty eight months later, I was like, Tony, I have
to draw the line somewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I'm not watching this.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I love. I got one comment that was like screaming
at me for the bit. I just replied, bit Q, yeah,
I love.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Your your commitment to the bit. That's never in doub.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Problem I have. But anyway, thank you. For breaking down
the rio. The recis OREO. Yeah, oh, it's just an update.
I forget if I mentioned before. I finally found the
Jason beer. I finally found the Jason site. I reviewed
it over on the second channel. I did a live
stream from the same bar at my sister's house that
I did last episode. Uh so, yeah, we both finally
(48:09):
found some products we wanted to consume after that.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
So what was the gave everyone a little maybe, don't
say how it was, give a little tease so they
watch your video.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
We had four flavors.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
We really liked one and one was okay and the
other two were terrible.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
But you'll have to go and watch and see which
one it is.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
That's good. That's a good tease.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
I actually I met Jason because I went to Halloween
Horror Nights at Universal.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Oh oh oh, I didn't realize you were down there. Yeah, oh,
I didn't know that. Royce texted me. He said, the
Friday thirteenth Mays is awesome?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
At first, I was a little disappointed because it was
so repetitive. It was just like Jason pops out, Jason
pops out.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
And it's the new Jason right, the new face.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
The it happened so fast it was hard for the register.
But in the second half of the Mace got more creative.
They started bringing in like different variations of Jason and stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
Say it was good. Yeah, they had the drinks there too.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
But yeah, I say the in terms of there's all
these videos that are like the ten foods you have
to try a Halloween Horror Nights.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I mean tried a bunch of the food there.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I'll say, you don't need to try any of it
is all terrible.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, most theme parks just just grab the cheapest thing
you can. Who cares, don't go nuts. Don't drink butter
beer at Universal.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
It's just it's pretty tasty though it's just.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Birch beer with like a buttery topping. You could just
buy birch beer and not have the butter. It's actually better.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, I mean Rob k in the Chat's like, yo,
you can just buy oreos and dip them in peanut.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Butter and don't even start it on the flame and
mo no fire, no Nike will bullshit. All right, now
we're reviewing theme park food.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
We should wrap I know, having fun. I don't want
it to end Okay, I have one more thing. Okay,
I have a theory I've been working on because I'm
trying to reconcile why I keep having such a different
opinion from everybody else on certain things.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yes, like twenty eight years later, for example.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Although I'm on the same boat with you, actually let
most people I don't know, I feel like a lot
of people I know liked it. But then again, I
think I'm only talked about Lauren Soda. She loved it.
So you and Lauren are enough for me to be like,
this movie's good.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Right, But in an Alien are put in a similar
boat where I'm not saying I love the show, I
wish it was better. Actually, I have a question if
we weren't reviewing the show every week, would you be
watching it like religiously or you have to watch it
as soon as it comes.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Out as soon as it came out. If I wasn't
a reviewer, as someone who has been burnt by the
Alien franchise over and over and over again, I probably
would have waited until it was done, okay, like or
at least the first season was done, and then I
would have binged it Goscha. But since I review it,
(50:56):
and I know a lot about Alien.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I had to.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
I was always going to review this. I wasn't planning
to do live recaps for every episode. You came up
with that idea.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
But I was always going to watch this as it aired.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
But No, if I was just a regular Joe Schmo
didn't talk about this, I would have waited until it
was done.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:14):
I think probably the same for me.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
I would have waited and then I would have asked you, like,
is it worth watching?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah? I would have decided, yes, that's this kind of show.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Anyway, I know I was going on a tangent there,
and now I just feel really tired, So I'm just
gonna shut that down. We'll pick it up another time.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, I'm on a lack of sleep. I was on
our call yesterday and then you get home super late.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
It's like, yo, could you stop talking about oreos and
wrap this up?
Speaker 4 (51:46):
All right? Everybody, thank you and have a good night.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
At least one of us, possibly both of us, will
be here next week, but definitely we'll be here the
following week for the finale. We'll be live at nine
thirty like every week, and we'll break it all down.
So thank you, everyone, and have a good night
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