BONUS AUDIO: The Guyver with Dissect The Film

Here is an epsidoe of Dissect That Film that I was a guest one. In this episode we talked about The Guyver! A lot of people involved with the movie have shown up in reviews we have done recently. Make sure to subscribe to Dissect That Film! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, Tony FROMAC Movies here with more bonus audio
for you. This time it's for the nineteen ninety one
film The Guyver aka Eutronics if you were in South America.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Uh yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Picked this one as the bonus audio, uh because it
has it involves a lot of people we've been talking
about recently. It is directed by Screaming Mad George and
Stephen Wang, who did the effects that we talked about
recently in Silent Night, Deadly Night four and five. It

(00:36):
is produced by Brian Yuzzda, who produced Reanimator and directed
Silent Night, Deadly Night four and produced four and five.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Uh it? Who else this is? Oh? Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Jeffrey Combs has a small part in this as Doctor East.
Uh So, yeah, there's a lot of Reanimeter connections to
this film, which is based off a anime.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm sure we talked about it we filmed this a
while back, but yeah, I thought it'd be fun, since
we've been talking about a lot of these people to
upload their show onto here and you should all follow
dissect that film. I've been in a couple episodes of
Theirs now and it's always a fun time.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Over there.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Joey c has been featured many times on that podcast,
So yeah, I think you guys would really really like it.
So without further ado, here is the Guiver Dissect That
Film episode.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Your host Parker, Dan and Angela slice and dice their
way through the good.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
If it did, we can kill it.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
The bad you brought, the devil's inside out and the
ugly movies you love and you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Piss on hospitality. I won't allow it.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hold your favorite films and friends is tight because they
aren't safe. In fact, it's already too late. It's time
to dissect that film.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Everybody?

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Welcome back to the Dissect That Film podcast, where we
dissect the good, the bad, and the ugly of cinema.
I am your host Brett Parker, joining me as always
my wonderful co host Dan an Angelo DNA gaming, Hello
and back once again to talk about hopefully a better
movie than the last time he was on the show.
We have the one, the only, the famous Tony from

(02:45):
Hack the Movies.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Are you saying that I'll always know what you did
last summer was not a good? Are you excited that
they're doing a legacy sequel? Now I've been bringing Jennifer
love Hewitt back.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Wait what Yeah, didn't they just do a show that
no one watched?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I watched the first three episodes and then I fell off. Yeah,
they're doing a legacy sequel. They're bringing her back.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh god, are you excited?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, I'm always excited for and who knows.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
The only thing I remember from that movie is the
scene with the fucking gondola shop where there's like whatever,
the little shuttles that go up and they're all there
and that dude's there, and like, it's the only thing
I remember for that fucking I'm just.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
So happy we're starting this episode talking about more of
that movie.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
We have to.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's by far good point, Parker.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Another thing I'm gonna bring up about I'll always Oh
my god.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, So if you want to listen to us talk
about I'll always know what you did last summer with Tony.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
It's an episode from a walk time. It's before listen
to the episode. Don't watch the movie. I'm gonna don't
do that. But that is the truth. Today, though we
are talking, we are in the midst of our month
of nineteen ninety one, because that was the year that

(04:11):
I was brought to this earth. So last week we
covered Silence of the Lambs, and then this week we're
doing a complete one eighty and we're talking about nineteen
ninety one's The Guiver.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
You a friend found a most valuable item.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I must find out how he managed to activate it,
the Guiver unit. I need your help. You saw it work.

Speaker 8 (04:39):
Tell me how did your friend activate it?

Speaker 9 (04:46):
I said, let her go?

Speaker 8 (05:10):
My god, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
The movies are very similar.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Buffalo Bill wanted to transform into something else, and in
this film you have a bunch of people transforming into
other things.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know what, you got me? You got me there.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
If only Bill was born a zoanoid, his problems would
have been solved.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Wouldn't be ironic if he wasn't a buffalo though?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Ted Levine just shows up in The Guver. My god,
o lord. So before we get into all the behind
the scenes stuff, let's go around the room and talk
about our history with the movie. And I think only
one person on this panel actually has a history of
this movie. So Tony, tell us about your history with

(06:13):
The Guiver.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Okay, I watched it in college, and the reason I
watch it in college is because me and the kids
in film school. When I went to community college, we
would all hang out in the film lab and just
talk about movies all day long.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I would be like, Wow, I hope.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
One day I get a real job and I don't
just talk about movies all day long. Anyway, fast forward
and I remember the one guy I came in and
he was talking about like the Guyver, and I'm like,
what's that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I haven't heard of it.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
And he's like, oh, I gotta show you the scene
Mark Havevill turns into a grasshopper and I'm like, stop
right there.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Say, we watched just that scene, which I didn't realize
at the time is like a Matris eiler. So I
remember I looked up the movie. I definitely watch it
in college. Although rewatching it, I remember a lot of
the monster stuff, but I forgot what the plot was.
I forgot goot, Michael Berryman was in it.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
One thing I've.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Remembered was that I did know is that the cover
is misleading. It makes me think Mark Hamill is the Guyver.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
He is not.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
But yeah, no, revisiting it, I'm like, man, I'm shocked
I didn't watch this movie more because this is really
up my alley and it has so many people involved
with the production who I like, and I like all
their other stuff. But yeah, it was fun revisiting this one.
I'm excited to watch the second. I don't think I've
ever seen the second.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yeah, let's talk about that, because the second one, I
think you can watch right now on Prime. It's on
a streaming service.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
This is on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
To be honest, I tried to see if the first
one was streaming free, and I think the second one
showed up.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
This one is so hard. If you don't own a
physical copy of this movie, it is almost impossible to
find it. So we all watched it on the Internet archive.
I will say it right now, because that was legit
the only way we could watch it because none of
us on physical I will always advocate for physical media,
have physical media behind me, But yeah, this movie was

(08:21):
impossible to find. It gets a four K release in May. Oh,
because I was gonna buy the DVD thinking it was
an older copy, I was like, oh, twenty bucks, I'll
snag it. Whatever. Now it's part of that d's part
of that package with the four K Blu Ray. The
regular all that stuff. So I'm like, oh, well, I
guess I gotta find another way. We almost didn't do

(08:41):
this episode because it couldn't find the fucking movie to watch.
But we found it, we watched it, and here we are.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Sorry, picking a complicated movie.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
This movie isn't complicated, it's just complicated to find.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I didn't like how hard it was to find. That's
bizarre because people will talk about the second one all
the time. I figured they just would just both be streaming.
Why why are all six transfer films streaming at all
times but you can't get one Guyver movie?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I think too, we must have a deal with Full Moon.
That's why the transfer movies are.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh I think they do. I think. I honestly think
there's like a full Moon chatter.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Because you find every puppet master, every transfer is dull.
Man the Demonic full Moon.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Try to have their own streaming service.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
I don't think it lasted, oh man, I would have
gotten that. I'm hearty. I didn't know about that, oh man.
So The Guiver was released March eighteenth, nineteen ninety one,
a little bit before I was born. But hey, there
we are.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
What a day after the recording. Wowsary, it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
It's gonna be it's thirty third anniversary tomorrow of the recording,
So not when you're listening to this, but yes, that's
actually pretty cool this anniversary.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Fu Yeah, thank you Grasshopper. Mark Hamill.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Oh god.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
So, as Tony stated, the cover of this movie has
it says Mark Hamill, and it has his face alongside
the guyver suit. So me, when Dan picked this movie
to cover for this month, I got excited and like, cool,
a kind of a power Ranger like movie with Mark Hamill.
I'm in. And then I remember trying to find the

(10:36):
movie and I was trying to make sure the copy
was good and I saw this other guy who I
was like, who the fuck is that guy? And why
is he the Guyver? Is this the right movie? So
I had to go all the way to the end
and watch the credits to see who was in the
movie and match it up to Wikipedia's cast list to
realize I had the right movie because this cover is

(10:57):
so misleading.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, although it does look like one of the covers too.
Did you know this is based off a comic Mango series?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yes, Armor yea diver?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, And I mean we'll talk about the effects.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
They did a one to one recreation of the suit, like,
there no artistic liberties with the suit. It is just
the suit from the comic, which is funny because it's
a complicated suit. A lot of times low budget superhero
stuffer that time would try to like, oh yeah, like
just make some artistic liberties. But uh yeah, the cover
of that is the guy half diver, half regular face,
so you know they're trying to be faithful.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
By the way, I haven't read any of the comics
or watching any of the anime.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Sorry, this is my this is my first bout into
this franchise. So I I think the last time I
had talked about this movie before Dan mentioned it, I
think you might have mentioned it on your show In
and Out. I couldn't tell you what episode it was,
but I think it was mentioned in an episode and
I was like, oh, I maybe I should check that
out someday, And then Dan mentioned it and that's when
we finally covered it.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So I probably was talking about misleading covers to a movie.
Oh I'm trying to think like why I would bring
this up, or maybe it was Power Rangers too. Oh yeah,
because the one guy who worked on this did a
Power Rangers thing.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot of
episodes of my show. Who can remember what I said?

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I remember the show we recorded last week.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
At the time of this recording, I just realized I
switched the date on two episodes, and I didn't realize
the one episode was supposed to come out on a holiday,
and I have so many jokes about the holiday.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
But now the.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Episode makes no sense because I'm releasing it on the
wrong day. But I filmed it so long ago and
I forgot what I said, and I'm like, oh, so
now I have to film an insert of me being like, hey, guys,
I make a lot of jokes.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I realize it's not the right day. Just to go
with it. I've done that. There's been a lot of
future Tony, especially over the last year.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Tony records like ten episodes in two weeks. We record
two in two weeks. So this movie was directed by
Screaming Mad George and Steve Wang, both pretty big effects
artists back in the eighties. Screaming Mat George, of course,
I think, most famous for Society Nightmare and Elmstree four.

(13:12):
He also did work on Predator. What was the other
one that we mentioned before.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
We freaked Freaked and uh yeah, Thamian Olmstree he did.
Uh he did effects for Silent Night, Deadly Night four
and five, and the producer Brian Yazda worked on those
two as.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yes, yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Did a bunch. I'm trying to see.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Oh we talked about Oh, we talked about Big Trouble
Little China, which is an episode we released a couple
of weeks ago and we never mentioned it. So here
it is, guys, we mentioned we worked on that movie.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Holy shit, guys, he did a well what he did
the re Animator sequels? Yes, I'm seeing here that he
did Faust, Love of the Damned. That's another comic book
adaptation with Jeffrey Combs. We're gonna want to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's face.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Actually the comic gets based off pre date Spawn, but
the movie was made after the Spawn movie came out,
and it is trying to be Spawn, which again I
love that movie. Not the best film so a directive
video cash Grab. It's as good as you can imagine,

(14:19):
but also has way too faithful of a comic book suit.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Like they look at it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's like you could have taken some liberties with this
screaming man.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
George. He's a purist. He's like, Nope, that's what it
looks like. We're making it look like that.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I respect that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Then we have Steve Wang who has worked on Common Rider.
He did he also directed the sequel to this Guyver,
Dark Hero. He also worked on Power Rangers for a bit,
which you can really feel in this movie that this
is very much a darker Power Rangers movie.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, this is like, this is and effects movie, Like
they are making this movie to show off their effects,
kind of like the guys who did the John Wick movies.
They were stunt stunt choreographers. Like, we're basically making a
movie to show off all our best stunt stuff. This
is what these guys were doing. They're like, we do
a lot of special effects. Let's do this, Let's show

(15:19):
all of our special effects.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah. Which the crazy fact is that I think there
was fifty effects shots on this just it's everywhere, like
the fact that like almost every mainline actor in this
movie transforms into some creature or changes it. And then
you have your main character, who the Guyver is played
by Jack Armstrong. By the way, for anyone who wants

(15:42):
to know. I don't really know much about him or
what he has done. He's done a lot of like
side stuff. I know he does a lot of TV.
Nothing that I really.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't even think.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I don't even think he's in the second one because
I think David Hater is in the writer actor Yeah, no, no,
gear and uh, I mean, we'll go through it, but
I I have some theories on why he didn't come back.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
We'll wait to.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Talk about that. I bet I could guess one of
the reasons. So this movie stars Jack Armstrong as our
title character, Sean Barker aka The Guiver. We have Mark
Hamill is ci agent Max Reid. We have Vivian Wu
as Mazuki Cigar. So but she's called Miski throughout the

(16:36):
whole movie by Sean. I thought he was saying Misty,
So most of my notes say Misty until I had
to go back and correct it because I found that
that's not what he was saying.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Jesus H.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
David Gayale as Fulton ball Cuss, which I don't even
think ye which, to be honest, was his name ever
used in the movie.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I think it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I don't know if they said Fulton, Maybe they said Balkis.
I'm not sure. Uh, but he's we speaking of Reanimator
and Bride Reanimator. I fucking love him in those movies.
So seeing him in this, I'm like, oh, I forgot
David Kells in this awesome.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
The fact that Reanimator literally ruined his marriage, and he
was like, well, I guess I'm just gonna continue to
play creepy ass guys because now I don't have a wife. Boy,
he just goes for it.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Man.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I feel like they were like, hey, hey, remember this
is PG thirteen. You can only go so far, dude.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Nonsense.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
We have Michael Berrman as Lisker. We have Jimmy Walker
as MC Striker Jimmy Walker or j J. Walker. He
was from Oh what the hell was the show?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Good Time?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Good Times?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah? Yes, I was like, is that fucking Jimmy Walker.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
He also, according to this, played one, two, three, four
five different characters on the series The Love Boat. Whenever
I watched The Love Boat, I'm always like, I hope
it's a Jimmy Walker episode.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
We have Peter Spellos as Ramsey. He was in I
think the only Things I remember. He always plays like
creepy characters. He was in Men in Black two. Okay,
Cowboy Bebop the movie.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Who the funck was he in that?

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I guess there was a Cowboy Bebop movie. I know
he does. He did a lot of anime. He did
Ghost in the Shell.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Movie Fucking Rocks. I just seen that. I was like,
what the ship dude did?

Speaker 5 (18:41):
He did some Cowboy Bebop from the original series. He
did Transformers. He just passed away in November of last year.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, bummer, that sucks.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
We have Spice Williams Crosby as the swoll Weber. She
was wrapped. We have William Pugh as Colonel Castle.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
And then I'm going I'm gonna save a couple of
the cast members for later when we get to their
small roles of this movie. But yeah, this was uh oh.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh sorry uh William William Pugh he is the sorry
uh the mayor from RoboCop two?

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yes, oh shit?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Was that the spoiler? My bad? No?

Speaker 5 (19:25):
No, no, no, no, We're good Because.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I was waiting, like I knew the mayor from RoboCop
two was in this, and I was waiting for someone
to say it, and then no, one's saying, I'm like,
I had to be the one.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
To do it. I mean, look, I mean he was
in the color purple, the original one from nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Soldiers talk about Robo Cop two here, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
I mean that's the most important thing. But I figured
i'd mentioned some of his other credits. Pumpet Master five,
the Final the final chapter. My ass, there's fucking ten
of them after that, and I'm still suffering through him.
Why do we keep so far?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
By the way, so far?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I think Resident Evil the final chapter as of right now.
I know there was a movie after that, but that
was a reboot. As of right now, I think that's
the one franchise movie where it actually was the final
chapter until we rebooted and circle back to it. But
as right now, like I think we finally have one

(20:26):
that it's the last one.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
You're telling me that that franchise did something right. It
actually ended.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Afterwards. They started over afterwards.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
So we've talked about it's the last.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
One, and then they're like, never mind, Jason's back, he's.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Done, he's done. Ambulance Driver.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
I'm still nauseous watching from watching the final chapter. The
worst editing ever. God damn it.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
So uh.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
David Gale's Characterlton Bulkus is actually named after one of
the characters from the manga mm hmm, and he I guess.
In the manga he is one of twelve zoo lords
and he is a top scientist for Chronos. I guess
he wasn't what was he in this one? He was
just like is he like the p Well, I know
he was a zoo lord, but he was like the

(21:19):
president of the company or was he just on the
board of directors or something?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Or yeah, like what Ron corpse or something? He had
a head screwed him. That's all it matters.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
And I guess Stephen Baldwin was up for the role
of Sean.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh Stephen lost it.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
I guess, so fuck And to be honest, that's all
I have for this movie when it comes to like
behind the scenes had a budget of three million dollars,
but I have no I don't know if this was
in theaters, so I don't have information on that.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
This looks like a direct a video movie I've ever
seen one. I mean, it might have played in theaters,
but like not a lot of theaters.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
It was like it was like carnisur Iwo or Leperkun two.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like it's really went to theaters, but it was meant
for direct the video. They thought if we put into theaters,
that'll be basically an advertisement for the video release.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Speaking of Leperkawn two, go check out our leper Con
two episode that we released back in Don Patrick's There
You Go. The music was done by Matthew Morse. Music
was not memorable in this movie. It was very very
much like you're watching Power Rangers.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Hey, listen, White Ranger. Tiger Power will always live in
my head forever. So don't give me that ship. Oh man.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
I mean that's that's about it, Tony. You got anything
any behind the scenes stuff that you want to add
to the little that I just added.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I think I pretty much said, like just it's just
another collaborate between people I like Brian Yazna, Screaming Man, George,
Steve Wang. It does for some reason, it does have
that Stuart Gordon feel, even though Stuart Gordon had nothing
to do with this, But it just shows how much
of a collaborative effort those movies like From Beyond and
Reanimator were, Like, even if one of them are gone

(23:18):
and it'll still feel like.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
One of their movies. Yeah, I don't have any other
behind the scenes stuff, so, I mean.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
The only thing I could add is that Van Diy
and Hero Communications actually approached Screaming Mad George because of
his effects work on Nightmare four, and he pretty much
stated that he would direct the movie if he could
give Brian Yazna to come on as producer, and he
also wanted Steve Wang to be a part of it
as well. I guess it took. I guess they both

(23:50):
did different things. So Screamad George did a lot of
the like principal photography and just kind of the basic
storyline stuff with the effects work, and Wang did a
lot of the action scenes because of the fact that
he had done with that. I mean you would, I
mean you could see it in this movie. I know.
Power Rangers was Power Rangers a little bit after this, right,

(24:12):
It's like ninety three. Yeah, so yeah, I mean you
could see kind of the same kind of action.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Although Van Day is a Japanese corporation and Super Sentai.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Right, so I that inspiration.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think Zoo Ranger, which is the one Power Rangers
took the footage from, might have been airing in nineteen
ninety one, So.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Okay makes it makes a lot of sense based on
what you see in this movie with the action.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, this does feel like a very mature Power Rangers,
not super mature because I.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
No, no, they really hold back on this. So the
version I think that we all saw was the director
cut the directors which is weird because from what I've
read is that the theatrical of this movie is more
violent than the director's cut, Like they actually cut away
from things before you see it. Like there's parts where

(25:09):
limbs are being torn from characters, but in our version
you don't actually see it. It like cuts away real quick.
You don't see as much blood. I guess there was
a lot more blood, a lot more gore in the
original theatrical.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking here.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
New Line apparently cut several scenes to focusing more on
action than humor. I think they wanted to trim it
down to I think they wanted it to be more
PG thirteen. This might be a Leprechaun one scenario where
I think that film was meant to be PG thirteen
and someone, a producer.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
At some point was like, add some gory.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
We're making it rated r and it's like, well, that
doesn't really fit with the rest of the film, but okay, it.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Looks like an ABC Family movie. And it almost like
an ABC Family movie. It's fucking blood and guts in it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I can see someone being like, this might be a
little too much for kids and teens, so let's not
let's let's try to push it toward adults. And I'm like, well,
I don't think they're gonna go for it, but okay,
good luck.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, because the manga actually is very violent, it's it's crazy.
So the fact that they really toned it down as
much as they did it was kind of shocking because
I was going into this blind, like I really knew
nothing about this movie, and sitting down and watching it,
I'm just like expecting so much more when it comes
to especially when you have effects by screaming Mat George like,

(26:28):
the effects work in this movie are fantastic.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, but they look like the monsters if you remember
the ending of Freaked. They look like the monsters at
the ending of Freak, like the big full body suits.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, which is cool.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
There weren't a lot of movies back then where you
would have a full creature in a full suit with
a lot of screen time that's brightly lit where it
doesn't look like shit. So it was a nice balance,
although they never figured out how to make the mouth
look like it was actually talking. Yeah, that's one thing
CGI has on practical effects. If you have a big

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mobster like like the fucking jaws.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Are just flapping up and down like there's no way
that thing is talking.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Oh man, Well, I mean that's that's about it for
the behind the scenes. So are we ready to hop
into this potect Yes, damn one thing I just.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Want to throw out there for the creation the creative side,
just really quick. The creator of The Guiver of the
original manga was Yoshika Takia. He started as a hentai artist.
Oh Matt, props that dude. That's the that's people's art,
so thank you. The biggest project from that part of
his life was Haiti's project Zeoremer Giant Robot show full

(27:43):
of titties. I don't know, I've never seen it. Apparent
it's a thing. The for the original Guiver came out
in eighty five. The manga, there was an OV eighty
six called The Guiver Out of Control Anime Movie, and
then there was a twelve episode anime called The Guiver
Bio Booster Armor in eighty nine, and of course we
had The Guy for ninety one live action and Guiver

(28:03):
two Dark here of ninety four, and then The Geiver
Bio Boosted Armor in two thousand and five to two
thousand and six. It was a twenty six episode television series.
I'm a cartoon, no anime, and everything was anime except
for the live action stuff that we did here, which
which is cool, and then a couple of things. A

(28:23):
few of the character names outside of David Gale's character
were also from the manga, like the scientist that dies
at the beginning. Tetsu Sagawa I was I believe was
also a character from the manga as well as a Lisker.
Lisker was actually one of the other because there's multiple
Guivers that appear in the manga. He is actually like

(28:44):
I think the guy ver two.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, he's the one who like chases off against the
actual Guiver.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah. Yeah, so just cool stuff. I'm glad that like
he was like scream at George is like, hey, like
let's keep this shit solid, like at least reference the
original material and didn't just go you know, Gina Guana
running through New York on everybody.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
But you know you leave still alone.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, but anyway, I just want to throw it out
for anybody that wanted to, like if they're like, I
want to look into Guy, because I've known about guyver forever,
but just the anime stuff, I never watched it. I
just knew it was a thing, yeah, because I mean
it just goes like you said, Like Tony said, it's
like Super Sentai stuff. It's like the Metal Heroes franchise.
You guys remember Big Bad Beatleborgs. Yes, that's the Metal
Heroes franchise. That's from all that ship. So there's tons

(29:28):
of shows like this. It's been there forever. It's just
we didn't get intil the nineties.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It needs to come back. I think, yes, yes, we get.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
We're getting a four K restoration of this baby out
in May.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I might actually pick that up. I haven't rewatched it,
like I'm gonna actually pick this one up.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Because I was checking the pre order prices like forty
five bucks. I was like, yeah, we'll wait till that
drops a prize. That's a lot for one.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You know what I'm up with you. I didn't like that.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I like, oh wait till lit silipops up? All right,
are you ready to hop into the plot of the gabber?
All right, Dan to the cheesiest part of this show.
We changed it up, Tony. We have a really weird introduction.
So here we go. Ready, Okay, let's dissect. Never goes right,

(30:25):
never goes right, but you know what, we move on.
We move on. So at the beginning of this movie
is a title crawl, not in the theatrical cup by
the way, this is a director's cut addition where it
opens up with this weird narration about the aliens coming
to Earth and they are trying to create these human

(30:46):
super soldiers and there is zoea lords and I guess
the what are they called zooids?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Is what these super soldiers?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yes? And so.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
They keep going uh. And so they have one of
these zolo lords opened like he pretty much just like
inserts them into Chronos core and they are trying to
find the unit. Which this all sounds.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
By the way, the opening title it reminded me of
there are some movies where it was decided like after
the fact, they're like, this might confuse people.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Let's have an opening thing that explains everything. One of
them was a fucking Theodore Rex opens that basically spoils
the twists of the film and explains the plot. Same
thing with Dark City.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Dark City's great, but the theatrical cut spoils the whole
like secret twist right in the opening. And another one
one of the ones that famously didn't work was Zardas,
which I finally I got a physical copy of Sardas recently.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm real excited where it's.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Sorry, sorry, Tony, I'm sorry where they added the thing
in the beginning where the character Zardas is trying to
like explain this world and everything.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
When you watch it, you're like, now I'm even more confused.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
What the fuck was that Zardas the Sean Connery movie, Yes,
where it's like him wearing the weirdest yes bikini thing.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, yeah, his name's not Zardas is a different guy.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
But anyway, Uh, this is reminding me of that we're
like maybe in test screenings because all the information they
say we learn later in the film, Yes, but they're
probably like people might get confused and check out at
that point, Uh say, all this ship in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
This reminds me of like sixty five when they put
the plot twist in the trailers.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Oh yeah, which the directors are like pissed about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Well, the directors are also pissed that the movie revealed
the marketing revealed dinosaurs are in it, And I'm like, well, dude,
I mean you should probably let people know dinosaurs are
in your movie.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, just a little.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
So.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, So the unit, if you have it, becomes becomes
the guver.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I have a unit. It's not great.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
If you'd like to see Tony's even to please go
to his spicy.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah snatching movies. Anyway, Sorry, Parker, you were talking about units.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
No I'm not.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
I'm done talking about them. Uh. And doctor Sagawa has
stolen the diver.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
This movie has been tainted for me. Now just ruined it.
You just ruined it because you kept calling it the unit.
And now I think a Beavis a buttead to America.
Where's the unit?

Speaker 5 (33:44):
So the doctor is clearly running from someone and he
needs to He's got the briefcase that has the guver inside,
so he needs to switch it out or he needs
to hide it. So he puts it in like a
lunch box that's just.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
In a corner.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah, so it's perfectly good plastic lunchbox. Why who's throwing
that away? So he then is running away from the
bad guys that are up in a van up on
the bridge there. Dude, he takes a tumble down the
side of the of the l A river and I'm like,
I don't that don't look like he did that on purpose.
That looks like he actually tripped and fell down that hill.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Just keep it in the up on you.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's so so easy to miss water ever in that thing.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
This once was the river.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
He was new, he was new to La, and he's like, oh,
I'll jump into the river. He didn't realize that it
rarely has water.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, he completely missed the giant ants.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
That the giant ants the T one thousand comes out
around the corner. Jesus is happening.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
In La.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Riding grease lightning.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
So he meant Michael Berryman's character Lisker. Yeah. We then
see the doctor transform into the creature from the Black Lagoon,
a weird furiation of him.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
By the way, it takes them a really long I
know this is the thing in Sentai stuff, but it
takes them a really long time to transform, and the
whole time of watch it, Like, in the middle of
his transformation, why don't the other guy's just run up
to start punching him before he finishes transforming, because it's.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
So cool to watch him transform. They're just in awe.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
They're like, Wow, I saw.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Theme about that with like Power Aiders, where they start
transforming and the bad eyes are like waiting.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
It's like, just shoot them while they're transforming.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
This is this is the same thing that I always
would talk about with Transformers. So yeah, Soul because you
talk about how it takes so long for him to transform,
but yet in the rest of the movie, when these
guys transform, it's pretty quick. It's like it's off camera,
but they like you could hear the noises and then
they come out of the shadows and their transform. It's
exactly like Transformers from two thousand and seven. Optimist Prime

(35:58):
takes ten minutes to fucking transformed that first time when
he shows up, shows Sam and Mikayla that who he is.
But then the rest of the movie he's like, he
transformed so fast. So yeah, I think that's just how
it goes. You want to see that awesome the awesome
effects work from turning into this creature, but then immediately
Lisker turns into his own whatever animal hybrid lizard thing

(36:23):
that at first like.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
He had a unit on his head. I don't know
if you guys, one of them's got the one of
them's got the fucking elephant trunk. Okay, speaking of the elephant.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Sorry, but Brian Y has the He produced the Cone
in the Adventure Live action show in the nineties, which
is Cone the Barbarian, and it was basically trying to
cash in on the Hercules popularity. Michael Brenon shows up
as a wizard in that show at some point, but
the first episode has like a weird elephant man and
it was reminding me of that.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I'm like, wow, this guy really likes elephant monster.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
He does.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Hear it all the time time he attacks.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Literally, the first episode has an elephant man in and
I'm looking at the elephant man in this I'm like,
you gotta be kidding again.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
All the noises that these guys make in this movie,
I was cockling. So keeps going over and over.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
So after Lisker transforms, he beats the ship out of
the doctor and the doctors defeat it and then just deflates,
like literally, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Right, he turns into goo or something.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Well, you don't see him turn into goo. You see
the goo later when they go up to it where
his body is, Well, that looks like a dead body
for weeks. But before no, he just looked like he
just lost all the air in his body.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
And just saying, I gotta say this for all like
the hard hardcore TOFU people like Common Rider and Ship
this is what it makes me think of, and the
original Common Rider when they'd beat like a bad guy,
they would like dissolve into bubbles. And then they did
the Newest shin Common Rider movie, which and they do
the same thing, but they try to get they like
try to rationalize it. And that's what this made me
think of, Like there's a explanation of why they die

(38:07):
they turn into phone, Like we didn't get that in
this movie, but that's the movie.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
We then cut to a dojo. We meet our one
of the most boring characters in this movie, who is
our main character, Sean.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Look, that is my problem with this. He's not a
very I mean, he's probably a good actor, but in
this movie, he's not really the most charismatic I can
see why they replace him later. But my biggest issue
going forward with this is like we don't really know
enough about Sean or get to relate to him or

(38:41):
learn about for like a Superhero origin story, he's just
kind of there. We know all about the girl and
her dad, Mark Hamill, but like Sean is supposed to
be the hero and he's just so bland and there's
nothing to him, So like trying to be invested in
him is really hard because we know nothing about him

(39:04):
before he gets in that suit, and then he's in
that suit for a while. He rarely comes out of
the suit, so you kind of forget that he's a
person at one point. Yeah, it's like the biggest problem
with this is like if they did like the first
Spider Man movie and it was all about Mary Jane
and like Peter's like, oh I got bit by a
spider and then he's just in the Spider Man suit
for the whole film. It's like, probably should have gotten

(39:26):
to know more about that guy. Yeah, that's my problem
with him in this. He's just really bland.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
See the funny thing is where we're watching him fight.
We watch him fight this one guy, but for some reason,
when I just glanced over the rest of this class.
They all looked like children, and it just reminds me
of that episode of Seinfeld where Cramers literally is talking
about I always learning karate fighting.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Children were at the same level though the same way.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Can we go get ice cream?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
High scream?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
By the way, my favorite thing about this dojo is
that apparently it has a soundproof room with a window
where you can just tell someone their parents died. It's
like when you go to church and they have like
the baby proof when like rooms, yeah, the kids don't
screamed or in church. This karate tojo has a viewing

(40:23):
for soundproof room.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's real good. Normally, in a normal script, you'd be like,
all right, we'll have our hero demonstrating as martial arts skills,
and then we'll do another scene where the girl learns
about her dead dad. This movie, they're like, no, no, no, no, no,
we'll put them both at the same time. The dojo
will have the crying your dad's dead room and we'll
just shoot those scenes at the same time. Like that

(40:46):
is not how you do this at Oh, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, if you want to make the movie fast, it's
only eighty eight minutes, but those could have been two scenes.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Come on.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
The funny thing is so Misky shows up and that's
w and Sean just leaves like he just he's in
the middle of fighting and it just walks away from
his fight to just awkwardly flirt with her. I don't
even know if they're a thing at this point. I
think he just is gonna give her a ride home
and not the ride home he wants. But then we

(41:19):
see Mark Hamill's character come in, Max Read and you're like, ah, sweet,
this is this is the character I care about. Yeah,
I mean I care about him a lot more than
this Sean guy. But I just wish things were different,
and he's looking.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Really probably should have been the guy we spent him,
make more time with him and that girl. The funniest
thing is.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
This movie only came out what seven eight years after
Return of the Jedi. Damn? When did his voice change
so drastically because he already has that like really deep,
like almost joker voice.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is Mark Hamill's smoker?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
I don't he I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That could be it.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
That could be it. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's
when did when did the animated series start.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, around ninety two. Yeah, because it was after Batman returns.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Right, so yeah. He brings Misky into the room to
tell her that her you know what, her dad was
involved in. The funniest thing is he goes, he tells
her everything other than the fact that her dad's dead.
She is literally bent over the desk crying to the
point where it's like she probably knows. And he goes, oh, yeah,
your dad's dead, and You're like, clearly, she fucking knows

(42:35):
this already.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
She clearly.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Okay, man, Oh god, So it didn't look like.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
She was like attending that karate dojo.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
No, And I'm like, how did he know she was.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Gonna be there?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
He just walks in.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Did her dad go?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Like sometimes she goes to the karate He told Joe
to hang out with or not boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
If I ever die go there?

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
So Sean, of course, during this whole thing, is very distracted.
He gets his ass kicked by this one dude, the
only guy he fights in this dojo. He gets his Craig.
I missed his name. I missed his name.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I should have been the guy for.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
But I love Oh. He's like, well, you know, he
of course picks a fight with this kid, and then
the dojo instructors just like you need to chill the
fuck out, all right, And he's like, all right, whatever,
and he leaves, and I'm like, I'm wait for him
to like hop on a motorcycle getting a cool car. No,
he hops on a little fucking scooter, drives away. You're like,

(43:56):
oh boy, there not trying very hard. I guess they're
making like, yeah, this is this is a this is
a loser, and he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Be writ this off for Spider Man two.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
He does, because there's a scene in this movie that
is identical to a scene in Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Saw that scooter and he's like, that's what my Peter
Parker will run.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Yes, I wouldn't be s.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Sam Rady was just on set at one point.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
He's probably friends with them, to be honest, I wouldn't
be shocked if that wasn't the case.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
This was this was like dark was this this was
Dark Man era? Yeah right, it was.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Like Dark Man Hercules the Legendary Journey era. Sam Raimon, Oh.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
My god, I forgot that show.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I was such a big fan of that show.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
I wonder if, like Sean here is like as much
of a like pussy fiend and like the second one
as he is at this one, because like they couldn't
named the third guy vers like Diuiver pussy hunter.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I would one watch guy.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
We don't have a lot of women listeners.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Have to change it for censorship reasons.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Just okay, just shaking her head.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
I have no choice. I have to be here.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Yes, I pay you handsomely. You need to be here.
Oh my god. So this is when this was another
thing that was added for the director's cut, that weird
tear transition. Oh my god. I was like, what is happening?
But I guess that was something they had to do.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, watching the show, we.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
Were like where did the music come from? I was like,
what is this?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's like it just it wasn't even like it was
transitioned into like a crazy scene.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It was just the seed just cut. It just did
a fade or nothing. Said.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
It was like, so we are at Kronas.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
When you're editing this, can you cut in like an
Austin Powers transition.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's like between scenes just.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Host like, I will try, I will try my best.
I do not put as much as the editing as
you do Tony, but I will try. As I'm listening
to it, she'll do it for you.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I'll do it tonight.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
You send me that file. It will be in the
oh Man. So we're at coronas we meet Fulton Bolt
gus Uh played by David Gail, and he gets a delivery,
but it's not the delivery he wanted because he opens
it up and it's a toaster and then he fucking

(46:51):
makes Lisker beat the ship out of each other. And
all I could think of is the scene from Liar
Liar when the guy walks He's like, what are you doing?
I'm kicking bye. That's literally and he has the weird
thing coming out of his forehead.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Many Star Star Wars references because of that.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I did think it was me, and I think he said, like,
I want to make sure you don't hurt a hair
on your head, like he's bald.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
That's not nice. Because Michael Bharman he he had a
rough childhood because he has some sort of condition that
I guess he had to get like cranial reconstructive surgery
when he was a kid, and that's why you know
he looks the way he does.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And yeah, and he.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Was always cast as like that weird character I mean
was in the original Hills Have Eyes. Yeah, and yeah,
he was also supposed to be the Crow.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
Whoa I was.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I saw the trailer for the new Crow, and I'm like, man,
I hope that skull cowboy's in this new version. Looks
like it's just some dude, like, oh, you finally a
chance to do a skull cowboy. Instead it's just some
guy with a beard.

Speaker 10 (48:04):
Awesome, don't Well, the skull Cowboy was supposed to be
in the first Crow movie, but they had to cut
all his scenes.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh yeah, because they they just they weren't able to
finish his scenes and there wasn't like enough so we
could just kind of just get rid of this character, gotcha. Yeah,
but I was hoping the new movie would have the
skull Cowboy. And it looks like his spirit guide is
just a guy like a suit jacket, And I'm like,
oh fuck this, don'torry.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Everybody in the fucking world is man about that trail.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
If they remade The Guiver, you'd want the Mark Hamill
character to turn into a grasshopper, right, yes, you don't
want him to be like, oh, I just died a
normal death. It's like, no, we want him to be
a grasshopper man.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
His skin just gets a looked like itchy, and like he.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Just starts kidding. Oh no, one of my lands broke.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
No, the disease, the disease he suffered or a condition
he suffers from. I'm not even gonna try and and
say it. But it leaves him with no sweat, glands, hair,
fingernails or teeth. So that's a big Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I noticed I met him back in like September. I
do notice he has no fingernails and whatnot. But yeah,
that's gotta gotta be a bummer.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Well, they doomed of his hand a few times and
I was like, yeah, is that for the movie or
is he just like that? I was like, oh, is
that how all zoinoids are? I don't know is going on?

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That is that is a little bizarre. It's like, wait,
why does he look like that and that? But the
other ones just look like regular people.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Look confusing.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Oh man.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
So of course Sean Sean follows Read and Misky to
the crimes where her dad died, and we also meet
Colonel Castle, who is just a He's just a dick.
He literally comes up I do like the line he
says to Mark Hamill where he's just like, you're still
chasing Ninja turtles. And I was like, ow, you say

(50:15):
that right, I didn't hear I didn't hear something different
He does say that, okay.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Batter if Hamill turned to him, he's like, no, I'm
looking for street sharks and.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
Shark Oh my god, I would have watched that, damn
h And while all this is happening, Sean finds the
lunch box with the guy for inside, and of course
he doesn't know what it is, so he just kind
of takes it away. And of course he looks up
and Listker is like, you know, surveying the area, and
he's able to sneak away. Uh, Miskey is very confused. Listen,

(50:49):
I understand, you find out your dad died, you're gonna
be very You're gonna be grieving and kind of, you know,
a little more than usual. But there she is yelling
this entire her movie, Like she is like, there's no talking.
It is every line of dialogue. This just is just yelling.
You're just like she's at least back the mic up.

(51:10):
So it's just it's not.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Even like her.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I could see her being upset. It's not even like
her dad died. It's like her dad tyed. It turned
into goo.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
I didn't even get to say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, it was unexpected, Like so much you can handle.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
She bends down, kisses his gowey forehead. Did you see the.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Mouth? Sorry fish paint?

Speaker 5 (51:36):
But yeah, she's very confused to why her dad would
be involved in this, Skyber and it was like, well,
maybe because Mark Campbell tells you he was a research
scientist and he was doing research on the guy vers,
so that's why he was involved in this.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Why would he have some.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
That he's a research scientist and.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It's probably part of his research.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Did you notice your dad eating fish flakes at home?
Any strange behavior like that?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Yeah, my goldfish have been dead. I don't know why
I keep feeding them.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
That I hatched from an egg instead of just being
born like all the other kids.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That was.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Oh man. So we're we're back with Lisker and his group,
Striker Ramsey and the beefcake Weber as they're trying to
find the guiver, and of course Striker loves to rap,
and he comes up with a rap about recycling and
being nice because Webber is not very nice.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
This feels like og Power Rangers, like top Bottom, like
right here, like this goofy ship, Like I don't want
a movie being goofy, but this goofy shit feels like
fucking saban Era. Where's Bulk and skull dudes? Wait from
to strut in.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
This my one of my favorite scenes of this entire movie.
So Sean, I'm guessing, is trying to go home, but
he drives down clearly an alleyway. He doesn't want to
go down, but he goes pretty far down this alleyway
and then stops, turns off his scooter and then tries
to turn it back on to then it does not

(53:20):
turn on. Oh my god, why did you go?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Why did you go.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Down the alleyway and then turn off your scooter?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Makes sense to me. I don't know what the problem is.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Stay guy's time to check the starter.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Oh no, but uh this is probably my favorite scene
the Yellow Bandana Gang.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
It's the Yellow Turbans. It's the fucking yellow Turbans for
Big Trouble Little China. Oh yeah, this is a reference
the bad Guys.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Now ridiculous, We're like talking.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
They have like a whole choreographed thag and a free
I'm like, I'm like, this is great. I missed like
weird nineties punks, like gangs like that, like the Glow
in the Dark gang from the Batman Forever movie. Oh,
it was just weird punks like that.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
But it's it's always that thing where the character, you know,
he he does his like kung Fu stance and they're
all like making fun of him, calling him kung Fu man,
and then he gets yeah, he just gets his ass kicked.
You like, it's it's always the thing when the guy
tries to run away and you always got the guy
who grabs him, holds him and he gets punched the stomach,
thrown against the fence and then he the guyver falls

(54:37):
out of his bag and he gets thrown on the
ground and then his head gets like hit into it
and it goes into his forehead into.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, it rubs the unit on his forehead. It's a
terrible mushroom print.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Just doesn't let go now he was just trying to
lick it.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Well, boy, this transformation is no Harley as Hes the
first time, and they're all I love the reaction shot
where it's just like it goes up to the gangs.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
They're just like.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
They're another one. They watch this go on for a while.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, No, one's like, oh my god, grab his wallet,
let's get out again.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (55:20):
And his pants are still on the ground. Just get them.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
Hell, they're just over there tapping their.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Toes like they're waiting for the transformation to be done
for them to get their ass. Oh my god, it's
so it's so good.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I would have just been running away.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
And just oh, he just didn't turn.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Let me help you, let me help you.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
But I love the whole thing where the one guy,
the one who talks the most, he whips out the
nun chuck and he's doing the thing and he drops
it and he takes out the switchblade. He's like threatening him,
and then he drops the switchblade. But then the one
guy calls him RoboCop. I'm like, boy, they're just gonna
drop all these just references to other better movies. Yes,

(56:08):
is better than the guy. Maybe I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
This show is known for its hot takes.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Okay, that's what we do. It's what we do here. Yeah,
and I love that it takes the entire fight. He
kicks all of their asses and then realizes what he is.
He's like, oh, because he sees his reflection like a hubcap?

(56:39):
What am I? And I was like, what.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
A monster to you?

Speaker 5 (56:45):
That he literally, during the fight takes out the blade
that comes out of his arm. You didn't figure it
out then that you weren't you?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
That's that's like his main thing is the elbow blade,
which he doesn't I don't think he hits.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Does he hit anyone with that thing throughout the entire movie?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Uhh yeah, he slices one of them, and then he
the main bad guy.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
He uh, Tony's favorite scene. Yes, yes, I have it
in bold in my notes. Get to that part.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
That's like his thing. It's like, yeah, I have to
just elbow people that.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It's almost like the people's elbow.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
The Rocks saw this movie, he went, I got it
elbow and then someone said that's kind of a lame finisher.
He's like, I'll do a bunch of goofy ship before
I do it, and they're like, perfect, Rocky guy.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
He's really selling that. I'm in.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Then you find out that screaming, I guess turns him
back into his human form because he likes screams and
pain or he screams in agony or whatever. Oh god,
so funny. So we're back with Balkus and he's talking
with Lisker and Lisker tells him about the whole swing
Daru and he's like, I don't fucking care about whatever.
The switcheroo thing is, just go get the giver. And
then you find out he's using the lunchbox he got.

Speaker 11 (58:10):
Okayster, Yeah, he's not gonna let it go to waste.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
He also tasks Lisker to go get Miski because she's
uh Sigawa's daughter. So we then get a Spider Man
one moment in a guy in the Diver, which, of
course this movie came out what eleven years before the
First Spider Man, where we get the same scene where

(58:41):
he wakes up and he's kind of like checking himself out,
like I feel different, but it only lasts Now.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Oh god, I need to take the glasses off and he's.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
But it only lasts like twenty seconds. Yeah, wow, wait
was that Spider Man one?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Did he like?

Speaker 6 (59:02):
He?

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Oh shit, it's like a natural share.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Pregnant.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
But again, Sam Raimie, he he knew a lot of
these hard guys. He probably saw this and again was
like stealing that, stealing that from my movie.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
If I ever meet Sam Raimi, I'm gonna ask him
if Spider Man one was influenced by the Typer And
if he says yes, I my fate like that, like,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Near Us is gonna have ted Ramy. You think I
can ask ted Ray.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
He might know. I mean he was involved. He was involved.
I mean, he wasn't doing anything other than being in
the movie, but.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
He knows.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
He probably knows everything. So we then are with the
CIA guys were with Colonel Douchebag and uh Max Reid,
and I love it, Like coming out, He's like, you
didn't even say anything to him. He didn't even push
him to get any information, Like, God, we got enough.
You're crazy. You're just chasing you know, shadows and all
that stuff. And yeah, Castle just sucks, but then you

(01:00:10):
figure out later why he sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Joe Sean goes back to Misky's apartment and he they're
about to they're about to do some stuff, but then
he's cock blocked by his dojo instructor and I'm like, eh, yeah, bitch,
really all the times to show up. But I love
about Misky's literally like she's not gonna be here very long,
and he's like, I'm gonna go get food and I'll

(01:00:33):
come back and he never comes back. Well, no, he
does come back, but that's when she gets taken.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
This is how gone, Like, man.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
It's enough Guiver to go around, baby, that's doesn't I
think the funny thing is is he when he goes
through the transformation, sees who he is and all that stuff,
Like she talks about the Guyverton and he's just like,
what what is that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
I mean, I know he doesn't know what it's called,
but maybe you should tell the girl that you want
to be clearly like I think boyfriend girlfriend close enough.
Maybe you should tell her that you transformed into a
power ranger last night, like she might be interested in
that fact. Five minutes ago, how long ago was this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
He should be telling everyone about his powers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
But the problem is that the Blue Beetle movie didn't
exist yet, so they didn't know to rip off that scene.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
My twelve year old asked me what are you watching?
And I said it's called The Guiver and he's like,
what is it about? And I said it's Blue Beetle.
Before Blue Beetle, except.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
He doesn't have a family. That makes us dynamic, like
more interesting being a fucking weirdo not knowing what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
You know. That's why. That's why I thought The Blue
Beetle was Okay. I'm like, you know what this is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
This is basically the guyver, basically the guy. Yeah, it
wasn't wasn't as good as the Kuyer, but yeah, was there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
At least a main character was boring, Like Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
See, I haven't seen that movie. My experience is I
have the whole comic run the first time they raise
carbon run. It's fucking fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
That's my basic look review Blue Beetle. It's a fun movie.
It's not good. It's not it's not bad. It's just
I like the side character is the best part of
the movie. Like, the supporting characters are fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
It's too generic for this state and age.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Like in an age where like the superhero stuff is
becoming real stale.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
You can't just put out a generic one. You can
get away with that like eight nine years ago, but
now it's like you gotta like do something different. Yeah,
but yeah, anyway, sorry, sorry, we're talking about Blue beetle.
We kind of get back to Guiver.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Yeah, clearly, I know, I got so much left to
talk about.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
So he goes out for food. He comes back, Misky's gone.
His dojo instructor is dead. He has no care in
the world that his dojo instructor is dead. He's like,
oh shits, like screams are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
He walks in and like, you'd like see her playing
his day in the middle of the room. It's not
like you fucking miss her.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
That's where no, I mean he sees her. He runs
around the corner because he thinks it's Misky, but then
he realizes it's not, and he's just like, miss she
told me. She told me to chill the fuck out.
I'm getting out of here. Fuck that pig. And I
love how the guys who take her like Lisker in

(01:03:27):
his little group there, they take her downstairs and they
have her for about fifteen seconds because Sean comes downstairs,
and I love that it all happens with everyone in
the same spot. Because Max shows up. He's about five
inches from those guys. Hey, how's it going, gentlemen, And
then he comes behind and Sean hits them both with

(01:03:49):
two bottles.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
In front of Max three Stooges style, like what the
fuck's going on here?

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
He takes Misky, they run away on Max. Max is
just like at first he's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Like what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
And then he's like, all right, I'm part of your group,
let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
My favorite part about the scene is like Max is
like weapon and then fucking Liskers like weapon and they're
like they dance around each other pointing weapons, like is
anything a fire? What's going on? Nobody's doing anything?

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
They just run away. He just runs. It's funny because
there is literally a point where Lisker is like rounding
a corner and you can still see them running even
if Max turns around in fires like Liskers should be
shooting them and he's just running down the alleyway. You're like,
got back, oh man. But this is when Striker decides

(01:04:42):
he's gonna transform into his form, and that is a
fucking giant Gremblin.

Speaker 12 (01:04:46):
Like he's just there and he just got super Chinks's
a mix of jar jar Binks, Yes, a mix of
jar jar Binks and a gremlin.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
He's the best. He's the best of the monsters.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Yeah, that guy, he's got he's got super speed of
some sort, and he jumps over the fence that they
just climbed over, and he lands in front of lenea quickly,
who screams or no joke thirty straight seconds. It goes
on for so long I think it woke up my
two year old. My two year old literally woke up,
walked out of his bedroom, looked at the TV and

(01:05:28):
goes like in his head, I can just imagine going.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
What the hell was that accent?

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
And then wanders away.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
That's why she's credited as the screen queen.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Yeah, not at all, she's really Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Didn't click for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Me as soon as she showed up, like, oh, it's
Lena Quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
I mean, you gotta think this is what eight years
after Silent Deadly Night, this is uh, you know, six
years after Return of the Living Dead, which you can't
have to that movie is one of those movies where
you can't tell it's Lena Quickly. You just know it
is her based on the craft. Uh, but yeah, you
definitely tell this is this is what seeing her in
this movie is what you would see of her now,

(01:06:07):
Like she looks very much like she does now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Just movie we talked about with.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Her the Last Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Yeah, the Last Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
I talked to the director of that movie on Twitter
all the time. Sorry to go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
No, she's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I saw her a few years ago at uh the
one of the Mahoning events.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
She was really nice.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
Yeah, she's definitely so bad. Love to me. She's a
she's a poor icon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
She's great in this just but it's awkward because you
find out it's a film set and the guy's like
giving notes to the monster.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
He's like, no, you're supposed to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It's like, is no, one like, wait, that's not what
our monster's supposed to look like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
He checks later because there's the dude in the costume.
He's like, ship, what was that?

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Notice that was this completely different colors?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Was this the first take?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
And the director didn't like sign off of what the
monster looked like, I know what, I know, it's there
for the gag, but I'm just like starting to think
about the logistics of it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
They're also filming in this like dark, dirty alley way,
so it's like it's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Like it's like the set of Friday the Thirteenth, Part eight, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
By Striker is just confused for a long time until
the other guys get away because he's like, wait, what
where am I?

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
What's going on? Yeah, he's just rolling with it. He's like, y, yeah, yeah,
I'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Like I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
When he transforms, his chains get bigger. He's wearing chant
he transforms, his chains are huge. He definitely wasn't wearing
big chains like that in human form. Okay, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
So Misky tells Sean about the guy when he's like
the what And this is when all the bad guys
change into their animal hybrid forms.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
We have.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Weber turns into like a free creature of some sort. Ye,
Ramsey turns into the elephant guy who every time he
makes a move, he just makes the elephant sound.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
We were wondering why you could always hear him sniff,
like you could hear his nose.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Oh yeah, they had it like moving around, which I
thought was pretty cool, But it was the.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
Noise he made. So I'm like, man, he needs to
go see a doctor for that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
I'm gonna spoil the movie for a later for you guys.
This whole movie, I just expected that trunk just to
get ripped off. They just lose all his powers.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
He spins around like the killer clown.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
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Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
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Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
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Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
So this is when like the you know, they're they're
trying to run away from the creatures and Mark Hamill
only has I guess, three bullets in his gun because
he fires three times and then has no more bullets.
But yeah, did he I don't think he fired his
gun at all before then, So way to go, Mark,
Way to go, Max.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Maybe that was the deleted scene of him just like
he was bored. He was just shooting it off in
the air.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Maybe maybe it's nine he should should have at least
fifteen shots of the chamber.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Clearly he's been using it for God to change the
uh so Castle and his guy so the to the
CIA Dick and his like crony who doesn't say a word.
They transform into awful looking creatures. One of them is

(01:10:18):
like this for fial, little fucking dinosaur looking thing that
looks like he is in constant pain.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
He is, tell me please.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
He's the first one who gets taken out too. Oh,
poor guy's been in the movie for five seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Do you think Seth Brundle was so annoyed? Holy? Do
you think he started it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
He was the first so annoy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
They all said it was aliens, but it was actually
just a dude experimenting.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
And advertly tapped into their technology. And that's how it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
You're reckconing the fly.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
That's what the Fly Too should have been about. Should
have been just it's the bridge between the fly and
the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yes, please, one of the guy just shows up in
the fly to and just fucking murders him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
That monster in the Flight Too, it could probably give
the guy for a run for its money. The fly
in the fly one that was just like a sad monster.
That thing wasn't gonna take off anytime soon. But the
fly too is spitting acid and Ship, I think it
was awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
We need to do it, man, we gotta we gotta
cover that one. This is when Sean turns into the
guy and I am the guy? The why do why do?
Why do people have to announce who they are? I
guess this. I guess this was the point. Yeah, to

(01:11:49):
show the bad guys that he is the guy vers
so they're like, oh, Ship, I guess we gotta go
after that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Cool transformation sequence. Yes. Secondly, I'm I'm upset. There's not
like some dance to it, you know, like like you know,
like we don't have any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
You just want They just show his neck and you
see the little things moving around in his neck, shoots out.
But of course he turns into the guy. For what's
the first thing Striker does. He starts rapping about him.
I didn't write down any of his words. I didn't
write down any of his rat He.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Has one stick. He's got to do it all right,
He's at it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
He's just doing his job.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
The other guy smells things. The girl is the dude's
girl friend.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
And he's yeah, never had to mention that she's got
some perfect Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
She's the sex appeal, but only in Monster for.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
She appeals to both men and when women in furs,
all of them, all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
The demographics here, This was this an awakening for someone
seeing that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Girl would play absolute play is the idea in their head,
and like twenty something years later they're like, wait a minute,
they woult to be in a big very soon.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
But that could be a fuzzy owl.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
Face on her. It's character. I just don't like the
rest of the by it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
I mean and mentally all these things look kind of weird,
but like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Like you said, it was weird as if.

Speaker 13 (01:13:28):
There was a normal Well, okay, her face is the
face is awesome, but then she has like no feathers
or anything like right here, Yeah okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
Yes, it's like a cheap ape suit but they changed
a different head. Yeah yeah and boobs.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Yes, it's King, it's King Kong lives. It's it's the
follow up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Oh God, we call oh God, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Thank you Dan, it's still mad. We didn't cover that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
It's our Patreon's fault. You guys just kidd.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
And you gave them the options to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I watched that movie ago, man, you're fine, you don't
need to read this. And there's a reason that one
never gets talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Do you remember that time got a heart transplant?

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
No, let's not talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Everything else is like a scaly, weird monster. She's the
only one that's like a sasquash.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Literally, it feels like, was this like a suit for
something else?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
They're like just throwing in this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
They ran out of suits and they're like, this is fine,
let's go with this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Somebody from We need sex Appeal, Well, we can give one
of the monsters tits.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Do it. It's gotta be tasteful. Though, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
She gets killed. She gets killed in this scene, right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
But the yeah, well before that, you have the long
fight scene. Well that just goes back and forth with
the guy burned, all the different characters, and then the
guy for the uh listker figures out what the Guyver's
weaknesses and that's the giant pearl on his forehead because
he head butts him and that's what kind of makes
them all weird. And ah, yeah, that's what your weakness is.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
You do have a weakness.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
It's intellectual glitteris.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
At least somebody can find it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Yeah, it's a guy, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I didn't realize.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
The things on the side of his head were like
extra eyes that like moved back to look behind.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I just like that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
I just like the things that excreet like steam out
of him, extinguishers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Was he does he have an engine? What was?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
He yeah, he's he starts getting his ass kicked, but
then he is able to He like uses his arm
blade and slices at Weber. But he thinks he killed Miski.
So he's all, that's me. That's kind of where the
other guy's get the upper hand and subdue him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
He's like, ah, what did I do? It's like, do
you want to check first? You like Jaker a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
He's like, ah, no, I know what I did.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Why I know she's dead.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
She's sleeping.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
It's like the Student.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
It's like the Steward of gondor Return to the King
where they're like, no, your son's alive, and he's like ah,
he's literally breathing, like, ah, put him on the fire
Guiver is literally doing that. And look, Peter Jackson, you
know he watched a lot of horror movies. He probably
saw the Guyver and said, yes, that is what I
will do. Return to the King, I'll do it. It

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is secret in his secret movie, his secret meeting with
Sam Raby where they were all coming up with ideas
to rip off.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
From the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Idea for a Samaran rat monkey. You can keep that
with Peter Jackson. That's not gonna fit with Spider Man.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
I could just see him having a round table meeting.

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
What do you got? What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
What's the guyver dude that we can rip off?

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Why do we keep talking about the Guiver?

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Yeah, so she's.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Yeah, she's dead. He gets subdued, He gets the pearl
ripped out of his forehead and he turns into Mush.
But of course Max comes and saves Misky because she's
not dead. But Weber is.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Well, he was about to do he was about to
do a special move too. Yeah, like got ripped out
of his head, which was a good little for a
little bit of foreshadowing. I was like, oh cool, all
right for later.

Speaker 14 (01:17:51):
He just turned into blue Raspberry icy Yes, yes, yeah,
So Max finds Misky, he rescues her.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Uh, the Guiver is destroyed. He turns into Mush and
then as they're trying to escape, they get caught by
the group and they're brought back to Cronus. And this
is when Misky wakes up, and boy, David Gale is
so good at just being an absolute creepizoid because he
is just touching her mouth. He's like going down. He's

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going down to like I thought he was gonna like
do a fucking reanimator and like trying to whip a
tit out or something. I was like, what in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
The knocked it out of the Parking reanimator? They were
like just just fusing. People liked when you did that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Just do that, just like sits there like fools around
their mouth, just stands up and whoa god.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
It just pans for a long time. I was like,
are you done yet? Because he like licks his fingers
and then puts it up to her mouth. I was like,
hang on, hang on, you got a barbecue saw.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
But she wakes up and I love how he's just like,
oh yeah, so yeah, we're here to protect you, well,
make sure everything is okay, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
By the way, this is like a second did you mention?
This is like a second to last movie?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Really really yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Before he died. He died. He died the year came out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
What was this movie? Last movie?

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
It was something called Switch, and then he was in
one episode of a TV show. Okay, so apparently there's
a movie that came out in twenty twelve, which I
guess is like a movie that sat on a shelf forever.
So that's technically his last movie. But yeah, this is
the last one that came out like in his lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I guess he.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Died of complications of open heart surgery. Inte. He died
a little over a month be where I was born,
fifty four.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
That's a bummer. But you know, like he went on
on a high note with the guyver. You know, I
mean everyone this day, they still talk about Faulton ball Cuff.
They're like, what a great character.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
That's his name? No one's gonna tell me otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
He doesn't even have a name in this movie Switch.
It's just doctor, so he's probably not in the movie
that well.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
It's like he shows up, he's like hello, doctor, and
he's like hello, and uh, He's like, oh, I want
to show you the growing room and she's like freaking out,
so he brings her in there. That's where like all
of the animal hybrid creatures are made, and he pretty
much is like, you need to tell me how to
activate the Guiver or I'm gonna. I'm gonna, this is

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gonna be your new home. And she's like, I don't know, wait,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
I like, I like in this scene, I think Matrix
reloaded ripped this off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
But he was like, no, I might. I'm not even
joking at this point because.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
He's like, all those stories you heard of were wolves
and vampires, those were just so annoyeds. And if Matrix reloaded,
They're like, remember there were like the ghosts and whatnot.
They're like, those are like rogue programs. Like all your
stories of werewolves this up were just rogue programs. I'm like,
i'd bend. I'm like, did they revolve the guy for?

(01:21:07):
Because I was joking with those other things, but this
is pretty similar.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Would have thought that they would that so many iconic
filmmakers would have looked at the Guiver and been like,
I'm so I'm so influenced by this right now, I'm
so inspired. What the Guiver did?

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
I just imagine all these influential filmmakers also in community
college decided to watch the Guyver because Mark Ambill turned
into an insect and this is how it all started.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Oh my god. So yeah, he pretty much he threatens
her if she doesn't tell him how to activate the
guy Ver, she's gonna be put into one of those
tanks and live there forever. She's brought into the lab
where all the magic happens. And this is where we
meet doctor East Jeffrey COLEMs care character. They did this
on purpose. They did it on purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
There's no way they didn't. If they said they didn't,
they're full of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Is now it had to be like, oh, you don't
be funny, it would be a different.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
It's so good. And uh he is doing he worked
with her father. He's also a research scientist doing research.
Misquite this is what they do because what he's working
with the Guyver. And he tells h David Gil that
the guiver is alive and growing. So it's pretty much

(01:22:38):
like reforming itself to the body that it was attached to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
This is a convenient.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Yeah, and uh, and so this is pretty much where
David Gil's like, well, I guess we don't need you
then to tell me how to activate it. We're gonna
I feel like it's going to activate itself. So this
is when you get the good old ball kick Miski
gets him right in the nuts, takes the divers you know,
and then puts it there. Was like a box that
when you meet Jeffrey Comb's character, he's like fighting with

(01:23:09):
a creature in a box. He's like putting it in
there to shut it. Yeah, And so she's threatening to
drop it in there, and of course because she does it,
she's running. We got a Scooby Doo moment where she's running,
you know, the lab.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
There are so many Scooby Doo moments throughout the rest
of the film. Well with her and market Hammel. They're
doing the thing where they run into the door rua.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
But I did not expect to see that in this movie,
because like there'll be like an awesome fight scene, you know,
like we got to do cut back to the Scooby
Doo running scene.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
Out And of course while this is all happening, all
the scientists turn into different creatures. And when she threatens
to throw the guver into this box, she actually chucks
it into Jeffrey Comb's character's mouth and he's like it's
inside it, you know, he can't get a up, so

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freaking Lisker shoves his hand down his throat to try
to get it to the point where no joke, he
falls on the floor and a fin shoots out of
his chest and you can hear a Slight Jos theme
play as it is slicing open, and of course the

(01:24:21):
guy ever reanimated.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
He is, Wow, this is how it goes. I just
love how like this all and Jeffrey comes by the
mind you turns into a monster to ye, Yeah, he's
the one who Yeah, like he's just like everybody turns
into a monster in a laugh, Like why not? It's

(01:24:45):
these towo awkward fuckers with huge heads what we were
talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:24:49):
There, Tony was talking about the running back and forth.
Is the one the one that makes the funny noises
as the insects. I'm assuming he's a bug too, but
he's like running back and forth making his little cat.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Oh it was like it looks like a little flea
or something like it was this little hunchback thing run and.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
He's running back behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, there's like a little flea and then a little
dinosaur guy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Yeah, and like they're trying to go up the stairs
and clearly it's not coded for Sonoyd.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
So and the other ones behind him like got they look.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
At all these so Annoyd related hyjikes. I thought you
were gonna get this in this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
So yeah, so uh the guyver saves Reid. Yeah, we
get the Scooby Doo moment with all the you know,
they're running around try to avoid all these one ones.
The elephant guy gets tossed into some sort of room
and blows up like he's dead. We get one final like,
we get one final sad like elephant you know, blow

(01:25:55):
yes as he dies. I love the scene they're fighting
one of them and she picks up a microscope and
she's just sitting there like waiting for the prime opportunity
to hit this thing over the head. I think it
was Lisker. She hits him over the head and that's
when the guy kind of picks him up and like

(01:26:17):
splits his head open. Cool if we actually saw it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
This is the this is the flea that's a tarky
tacking Mark Hampbell.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
It's a little like all right, and then he just
he and he just does like the awkward like he's
still and then he's slowly over this show, and.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
She like acting like this microscope is like so heavy,
Like she's like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
It's the same what she picked up earlier tried to
hit somebody with, Like I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Think it's that heavy, but.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
How do you know, how do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Have you ever picked up a microscope that looked.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
Like, yeah, I have, They're not that heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Never mind.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Yeah, it feels like this is just like a high
school somewhere, like get the ship out of the science room.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
We had those same microscopes at our high school.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
They're not that apple ts like, so, yeah, Lisker gets
his head split open.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
But then we get the final probably one of the
gnarliest transformations in that is one that's been mentioned many
times already in the episode. Yes, that is Mark Hamill's
character transforming into a giant grasshopper, and it is, oh
my god, it is bad. Like there's the point where
he is on the ground like on all fours, just shaking, convulsing,
and then like the things start growing out of him,

(01:27:37):
and then the my favorite is when the head, Yeah,
the legs snack and then his head extends and his
face is always on the ground like it's just the
grassper and.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Whatever's coming out of his mouth. I was like, just
just spit it out, please. That bothered me so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Was I the only one that watching the scene Because
he reaches down like, oh, this transformation is activated by
getting like a Charlie horse. I thought it was like this,
Oh no, like your calf. But like I also, I
was like maybe being in that chamber gave like a
huge fauncht and like it all the way down to.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
Here's like, god, I gotta love this thing around Now.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
Later on you see the thing coming out by his
legs or by his shoulders.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Oh, that's his dork. It grew with him, but no,
like with his ankle like folds backwards.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
Yeah, that was It's one of my it's my favorite
effect of the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
I thought this was a Stabbt Common Rider really like yeah,
because Common Rider's based on a grasshopper. It is like
I thought this was a Stabbt COmON ra But well,
this movie also reminds me there was an old Shin
common Rider called Shin Common Rider Prologue. It came out
actually the year after this movie. It was very similar,
Like it wasn't just like a dude in the suit.
It was like hyper realistic like bioga or organic like

(01:29:00):
grasshopper ship, and that's what this movie makes me. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Okay, I think it's the grasshopper.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
The Grasshopper reminds me of the big grasshopper alien in Arena.
Did you ever see Arena? It's basically a space boxing movie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
And Greer in it. No, but they have to box.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
This human has to box all these aliens and one
of them is a big grasshopper guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
So that's kind of what it was reminded me of.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Oh now, I just think a hopper from a bug's life. Okay, yeah, no,
I'm gonna I'm gonna check that out now you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Yeah, Arena. Arena is on to b I think check
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
It's a fun I'm going on a different show to
talk about that at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
So it's like fresh in my head, like wow.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
In the same week, I watched two movies with giant
grasshopper man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Well, and one of them was Mark Hamill.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
Yeah that's true. So yeah, he transforms. I love how
the guy ever gets down on his and he's like, no, Max,
let me help. He's like it stood eight for me.
I'm like, you've known this man for like an hour,
like two hours, like you're acting like this is oh,
this is gonna be such a huge loss. Fore it's

(01:30:17):
like it's gonna be okay, Max. He's rubbing his weird
face and then he dies, and then of course David
Gale comes out and hams it up for the rest
of the movie. He's literally like, well, if he stayed
in the tank longer and he probably would have lived. Well,
that sucks. And he's pretty much you know the guy
vers like, you know, I can defeat you, and he's like, no,

(01:30:39):
I'm a zoa lord, so come and you know, bring it.
And then he like shrinks into the dark room and
then comes out this giant monster. This bug monster's coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I will say, this is kind of a letdown. I mean,
it's a cool look at dragon. It doesn't move that well.
They too too many shots of the wide shot moving.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I'm like, that's clearly on wheels.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
About legs aren't moving.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yeah, But I'm like the problem is just like seeing
what the guyver looks like you want his final battle
to be against, like something he can have like a
like a hand to hand combat with, and said it's
a dragon, and it's like what I yeah, I get
close to it with my elbow, Like this is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
A real big let down of a final fight.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Like I thought he was gonna do like Ninja moves
and David g will be the ultimate Ninjabu.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
But it's like, no, here's a dragon.

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
We're just gonna you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Would need to be like a humanoid creature similar to
Common Rider. But the guy that's what I think. I'm sorry,
like the guyver like that. That's so it could be like,
you know, fighting the same thing like you Yeah, exactly,
that's what it should have been. Now he's like elbowing dragons.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I mean, not too much of the same.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
You don't want to do the Venom situation where they're
like this is Grave Venom.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
It's like, okay, they get a little different, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
The next one, he's gonna fight Red Venom. You're like, God, hey,
that Arena movie you were talking about? Is that a
Kellen Lutz movie and Samuel L. Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
No, it is not that ana.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Listen, Samuel L. Jackson is in it. It doesn't get eaten
by a giant gratch.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
Oh my god. The cover of this looks like it
could have been a prequel to Super Mario Brothers.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Is there BDSM and Italians and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Going in it might be some Italians in it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
There's an alternate cover for Arena where he's fighting like
a shark with lobster hands.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
That thing's not in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
But but yeah, okay, so Arena good example. He does
fight a grasshopper thing, but his final fight is against
a humanoid like cyborg goat man that he could actually
fight with. I'm get dragon where it's like, how do
I fight that thing?

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
He can't fight a fucking shark on that one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Oh, the guy who directed the guy who directed Arena
directed Demonic Toys and Dungeon Mass.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Yeah, that thing is. That thing's not in the movie.
That thing is not. There are cool monsters in the movie,
but they don't.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
Really that's such a disappointment. I need to see this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
I want to see the Grasshopper though.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah, it's like read in nineteen nine, nineteen eighty nine Grasshopper.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
I just imagine it's like Johnny Cage fightings and gorols
of Grasshopper with like four boxing gloves.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
It has it has right from Pomona.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
To I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
The grass operator just has like giant Oh, I'm looking
at a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Sorry, sorry to derail this. I just want to see.

Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
Grasshopper looks like too late, now it's already gone.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
I want to see what the grasshopper looks like a
Guyver and I want to compare them to see which
one I like more.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
Uh, I said, I'm gonna put the Guyver's fist scene in.
I'm gonna photoshop it onto Arthur.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
Oh, just like making the fence.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
This okay?

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Well, Mark Hamill's Grasshopper that's more of a body horror thing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah, so it works there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
But the nineteen eighty nine Grasshopper from Arena, I think
it's way cooler looking.

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
Well, we'll put pictures of both of them here on
this point.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
What about what about should Common Rider from shod Common
Rider prologue from nineteen ninety two that's also Grasshopper.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Man, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
I'm saying, you can google the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
All right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
I'm gonna add Shouldn't Common Rider prolog Grasshopper here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
To nineteen ninety two Grasshopper.

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
We're literally at the end of this movie.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
We're like, no, this is literally just let's drag it out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
This is literally just common Rider mixed with sell from
Dragon Ball it is.

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
It's not riding that's anywhere rarely. So yeah, he fights
the big he fights the Zoel Lord. It lasts about
two seconds because all he does is run around the
room and then the guy very yep does the I
stab and then the creature pins into the wall and

(01:35:16):
tries to steal the pearl, but the pearl exerts so
much energy that it blows him into a room and then.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Just blows him off from his chest.

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Oh that's right. Yeah, he's grabbing the pearl, but it's
causing the energy in his chest.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Yeah, so I gotta make I gotta make my reference
for super Robot fans sucking his ingers to eat his
breast fires. He's like a ray out of his chest.
That's that ship is. It's an.

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
I was very disappointed in that fight. I wanted him
to have to hit one eye, hit the other eye,
and then.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
Well he doesn't. He does jump on its back and
like ride it for a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
We're talking about he hit the other one, the glowing
weak point will pop back, pop up and hit you
hit his point for mass damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
I was just thinking, like realistically, like this this is
Zoel Lord. He's kind of limited to where he could transform,
Like it's just like, I'm gonna kick your ass, Like,
this room's too small? Can we go outside?

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Why am I gonna be so big?

Speaker 6 (01:36:23):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Yeah, so the Lord is dead. Sean comes back and
he's naked. I'm like, why was he naked when he
came when he became human? Yeah, he was reborn.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Although this is a world where when you transform, your
chains get bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
So I don't really know who the rules are.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Of a character that doesn't get murked.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
Well, I just wanted to state the fact that when
Sean comes back, he's naked, and boy Misky cannot stop
looking down.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
She's like, he's sing down.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
All right, can be my boyfriend anytime? Miss.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
Yeah. After that, they, you know, they go off into
the sunset, and I just love that castle and striker
just around the corner and castles like I got a
chance for you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
He takes a cigar and then you, guys, you know
what the final line is, right?

Speaker 6 (01:37:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Oh yes, tyn no might, which I think was his
catchphrase for fucking good time.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Yes, it was one thing I'm pissed about, one thing
I'm super fucking mad about. I'm literally like killing Myselver
here's thinking of it. I wanted this movie to end
with them like, all right, babe, let's get out of here,
and it's them riding off into the sunset on Grasshopper Market.
That's what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
I couldn't believe it serious. Also, I didn't see those
actors in the cast for the ones. I don't know
if they just drop that cliffhang.

Speaker 5 (01:38:03):
I guess that job wasn't that important.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Get me a plane ticket, we're leaving. We can't be
the diver.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Tied o mind.

Speaker 5 (01:38:15):
Well, that's it. That is the Guiver. Now we're gonna
talk about our final thoughts on the movie. So, Tony,
after watching the movie, going through the plot again, what
did you think of The Guiver?

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
I kind of loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
The main problem with the film is that the main
character isn't developed enough before he turns into the Guiver,
so you don't really care about him, Like you feel
nothing when he died, and you're like, oh, I hope,
I hope like Mark Hammill puts on this suit because
I didn't really care about that guy. And the final
fight him fighting a dragon, like the movie wasn't leading

(01:38:51):
up to that. Now he needs to fight like something
he can actually fight. But other than that, the effects
are just amazing. They clearly had a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Of fun with this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
You got little little fun nods to re Animator in there.
I'm probably gonna watch it more, to be honest. Seeing
it for the first time since college, I'm like, man,
I don't know why I didn't watch this more in college.
It seems like it was right up my alley. And
I'm excited to see the second one. I want to
see what's up in that second one. I'm gonna see
what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
All right, who wants to go next?

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Okay, this is like the closest to fucking American Tokusatsu
sentai ridiculous bullshit ever, and like I only think I
wish is there was more slice of life random shit
in here, like the guy for doing laundry, Like I
just wanted, like to see that in this movie that

(01:39:51):
we don't get or I don't want. I thought I
love the special effects part of it. I thought the
suits look fucking cool, the transformations were neat. I didn't
give a fuck about like said to make character who
was like the most one note dude ever. But but yeah,
for as far as the fights and the villain. Like
I said, it should have been fucking Whatever's list. Yeah,

(01:40:15):
I was a little more invested Lisker than you know,
doctor Dickhead there at the end. Fucking dark dragon dude. Anyway,
but yeah, it was fun. I think, like going in,
I didn't know what to expect, but like I was like,
all right, I kind of like this at the end
of like talking about with you guys, I like it
more the more that I think about it. But yeah,
it's fun. Like if you are into this, like this
is the like one of the closest to like American

(01:40:37):
Toky saws I could think of. That's not just like
power Rangers like doing the thing, but it's it's it's fun.
It's fun, dude. The effects are great, and like I said,
it's kind of slapsticky, but you know it's whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
You saying that you wanted to see the guy were
doing laundry, Yet you say that you hate seeing people's
day to day life in.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Movies, make your damn mind.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
It's funny if they have like a bug suit on though,
that's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Yeah, I think of the suit there was. I don't
watch a lot of Common Rider, but my boy does.
I've mentioned it before. And there's the thing I remember
watching this this dude like in his suit like power,
like common Rider, and he's just sitting there cleaning laundry
by hand. Yeah, sitting outside, and he looks over and
there's a dish like a washing machine. Looks down. He
looks over and it cuts to him doing laundry and
a washing machine. It was there the whole time. You

(01:41:28):
had no idea. But it's out in the middle of nowhere.
There's just fucking washing machine, like the ship like that,
or it's a it's a certain thing.

Speaker 6 (01:41:36):
Do you want to see him shopping for groceries too?

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
I would love to see him shopping just like a
list and everybody's staring at him like what it's like
one punch mans like groceries.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
It's like, uh, like Spider Man two Spider Man taking
an elevator and it being super of You don't really
see superheroes in normal situations like that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Well, speaking of Spider Man, because you remember in the
original Spider Man where Green Goblin has Peter on the
roofs I'm like stunned and he's talking to him. It's
when the Green God would just kind of like nonchalantly
slap hang on, don't hold on. I messed up. I
broke it. I broke our headphones. Anyway, going back, it's

(01:42:16):
when Peter Parker, like his sex stun and greenk Gobin
just walks up and it kind of playfully slaps him
on the back of the head and just up. That
is the most tokusatzu thing ever. It's like a Bill
in this blah blah blah. He just kind of like,
you dumb ass, like this is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Yeah, this movie I love.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Whenever he was in guiverer mode, it was like, this
is just an action scene. They have to fight fight
fight fight fights Like, oh okay.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
I like the awkwardness of it. Sometimes, Yeah, you are
the guyver Now you have to figure out how to
make your lunch for the day. Why is this guy
in a seven leg? Anyway? That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:53):
Sorry, I didn't even know this movie existed, So going
into this I knew nothing about it other than Mark
Hamill was in it because you guys said it over
and over. Didn't even recognize Mark Hamill. So had you
guys not said anything, I wouldn't even have known it was.
I mean, you think of him at a certain point

(01:43:16):
in his life, and he looks so much older here,
so I was like, really, but yeah, the suits were awesome.
The transformations I felt were very detailed, so it really
gets you into it. I love the joking moments, like

(01:43:37):
when Miski pulls out the the line and the shocks
elephant Man in the face. She's like tapping it on
the on the railing. But stuff like that. I want
to watch it again. I I thoroughly. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
Yeah, this was I mean, I'm with you, Angela, this
is I didn't know what I was walking into out
of the fact I've just the cover. I saw Mark
Hamill was like, oh sick, He's gonna be like a
cool power injury fighting people. And then yeah, like I mean,
I told I said in the beginning of the episode,
like I literally had to double check to make sure
the version of the movie we were watching was the
right one. I didn't want to like, oh no, that

(01:44:23):
was the second one, guys, damn it, Like, but no,
I wouldn't. I mean, it was a lot of fun.
I mean for me, I'm always I always We'll talk
about how much I love practical effects and Screamac George
and Steve Wegg. They fucking killed it in this movie.
The amount of effects works that are done, especially nineteen

(01:44:44):
ninety one, and the effects are this good and just
it's unreal. But I just I think my biggest gripe
with it is that I wish it was a little
bit more violent. I wish we got to see a
lot more like blood and guts. And I understand. I
guess the theatrical version is more violent. I hope when
they released the four K version and I get it
at some point in my life that they're going to

(01:45:06):
have both versions of the movie so it can see
it for it in its true form.

Speaker 8 (01:45:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
I as as much as I'd be like, hey, I
would love to see like them give it a reimagining,
I also don't want to do that because then it'd
just all be c g I and it would just
be Yeah, it would kind of defeat the purpose of
it because of special special effects are But yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Just watching Comrid, just please.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
I got to check out Shin Ultra Man.

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
It's also very good. I didn't get the Raven Banner
just did a release of it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Sorry where you finished Parker? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
No, I had a good time. I can't wait to
watch it again.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
I was gonna say so, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
I was looking up ZOEA Lord earlier to get a
better look at the dragon, and then I just I
just stumbled on this. I'm gonna post in the chat
I found au. I guess this is an international poster,
and I guess in some markets it was called Neutronics
the film the Private Chat. Look at this poster. It's
just the monsters posing all cool and the furry one's

(01:46:08):
all sexy on the ground. It tells you nothing about
the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Watching look at the Private Chat. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (01:46:19):
I saw that and I was like, what is this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
I like how liskers characters just like like like what
the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
This makes it think like these are the good guys
and the movies about them and they're gonna go on
fun adventures. It doesn't tell you anything about the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Does this feel like does this feel like a full
moon stereo or something like?

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
All right, Well, now that we've all shared our thoughts
on the movie, we're gonna go over to social media
and hear what you all thought of this movie or
the people who have actually seen this movie. So We're
gonna start over on x slash Twitter. Our first one
is from We Are Authentic podcast, who said I watched
this movie so many times as a kid and haven't
thought about it in years. I didn't even know it

(01:47:06):
was Mark Hamill. Well guess what it wasn't Mark Hambill.
I mean it was the movie, but he's not the
guy ever, sorry to say. The next one is from
the Gentle Dorks podcast, who said, I love this movie.
In fact, I watched it only last month because someone
mentioned it as a bad movie and I thought, I
don't remember it being bad, and I was right. It
was still amazingly cheesy and that's why I loved it.

(01:47:29):
And Shadows and Sons in Shadows cast said fun movie,
looking forward to hearing your takes, and then Johnny Browning
chimed in and said, poster is so incorrect. You are
very correct, Johnny very misleading. Did not like that. Now
over to Instagram, where we got a couple. Our first
one is from Bucket a Chum podcast, who said this

(01:47:51):
movie kicks ass. The sequel is a cheesy good time too,
not as good, But the first one is dope from
what I've read, and I know Tony mentioned it too.
A lot of people prefer the second one over the
first one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
And I think we all really enjoyed this first one. Yeah,
so yes, we have a lot to look forward to.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
I guess, I guess we all need to watch this
and get back with each other and talk about the
talk about the guy Verto at some point. Uh, the
uncredited Extras podcast said, actually prefer the sequel, but I
own both on physical media. That was owen from that podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
And then the this was one where I wasn't sure
about this reference and he told me not to make
this joke. So the cult Worthy studios are good, friend,
Antonio said, and interesting. Don't forget to mention the Michael
Winslow meta joke at the end. Did anyone catch a
Michael Winslow joke.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
At the end?

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
I'm not think so positive.

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
Michael Winslow is the guy from Police Academy. Correct, all right,
I missed I I didn't. I didn't notice it, So
my apologies, Antonio, uh that I didn't get it, but
maybe we can add it in at a later date.

Speaker 8 (01:49:03):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
And then their last one on Instagram is from the
Evil Debts who said I vaguely remember this in it
being wild, wacky and inflatable.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
It does ms though, no, and we.

Speaker 5 (01:49:13):
Did get one over on threads from Contrarian Prime who
says I was a big fan of the TV spin
off The mcgiver.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
Well done.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
So that is it for comments on the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
It is the final part of the show where our
guest tells us all about their what they're doing, where
to find them, and all that fun stuff. So Tony
as Angela dlops from Mike, we're a professional podcast over here, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
If you did not know you don't pay for well,
that's okay. I've been. I've been make a mistakes in
my episodes, is often.

Speaker 8 (01:50:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
So I'm Tony from Hacked the Movies.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
You could check me out on Hack the Movies, where
I talk about movies new and old.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Sometimes we do live episodes. I think, Parker, you've dipped
in a couple of those.

Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
We've done in a couple of the ones that I
actually can fucking show up for.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
Yees.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Yeah, so those are fun.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
I also have Caszilla Versus the Pod Monster, where me
and Johannah every other ish week when we don't fuck
up our schedule, we talk about Godzilla stuff. We're currently
making our way through the Heysay series, which is like
the eighties and.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
To the nineties before the Millennium series.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Yeah, and like we're occasionally taking break to talk about
like newer Monster Verse stuff like we did like the
Monarch show. We're gonna be talking about Godzilla X Kong.
We did Godzilla one, so yeah, go back and check
those out. And I'm on cameo now. I mean, I
have a Patreon a bunch of other stuff, but I
also have a cameo. So if you want me to
say stupid things, go to cameo dot com slash Tony

(01:51:14):
Paluso and I'll say whatever you want within reason.

Speaker 6 (01:51:18):
But I'm glad he finished then because I would have
been like, well.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Because one guy was just like make out with christl
and I'm like, I think that breaks Tony's service.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
And also I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
So that's not saying anything.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
I know. That was the weird part. Uh So yeah,
that's all I got going on.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
And then I'm on I'm just hacked movies on all
the socials.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
You'll find me.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Yep, you can save that content for.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Yeah, that's what you got to say. In your episodes
instead of saying that because you can't say, well you can,
but you don't say the name of the site, so
you just call it tons.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
All the links to everything that Tony does will be
down in the description or in the show notes. So
make sure to check out Hacked the Movies, great show,
just great stuff Tony's doing over there for us. You
can find us on of course, all the social media's.
We're at dicec that film all over the place. Clearly
you know where that is since you left us all
those amazing comments. We are on Patreon as well, Patreon

(01:52:19):
dot com, slash dice tech that film for a Just
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by Dan and Angel where we talk about monster movies.

(01:52:40):
We pretty much put a bunch of monster movies on
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whatever movie it lands on. As of the this will
be out in April. So when this is released, what
are we talking about I don't even think we have
a movie picked up for that because we haven't even
done our March one yet. March all right, well it'll
be yes, yes, so yeah, make sure to go over

(01:53:01):
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I need to get word I will, okay, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Give them off my back once in a while, Jesus.
The prise episodes like go do another podcast for a big.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
At least our podcast where ours is the only one
like that?

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
I saw Joey C was on here.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
Yes, Joey C is our is our unofficial holiday guy.
He's been on three episodes or what yeah, three episodes
at all based around the holiday, so yeah, being holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
I hope he's I didn't listen to the episode yet,
but I hope he's keeping up with his new year's
resolution to be more manly?

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
Is he very manly? In the Leprechaun two episode.

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
He's told he, I mean, just listen for the reasoning
behind when he saw leper Con two and how traumatic
it was for was okay?

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Well, I mean, of.

Speaker 5 (01:54:37):
Course that episode was released a long time ago based
on when this coup will be out, but yes, listen,
just for the amazing story Joey on the table there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
And one more thing about leperchaon two. If you listen
to my idle Hands review. We actually interviewed the director
of Leprechaun two and I literally asked him no questions
about leperkaon two. I just said, good Joe, anyway, you
had two bit parts in Carnoisaur two and three.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Tell me all about it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:55:06):
I was not concerned Tony at that time. Did you
know that he was the uncle of Timothy Shallow.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
May I found that out afterwards. I would have brought
it up. Could you get me screenings to tune too early?

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
He's like, I haven't talked to him in twenty years.
Oh but yeah, that's about it, guys. All the links
will be down in the description for all of our
personal links as well. Next week, we are doing something
a little different because next week is our three year
anniversary as a podcast. So I don't know what we're

(01:55:42):
gonna be talking about. We're we're just gonna be hanging out,
having a good time, probably doing a live show. Maybe
we're gonna be revisiting a movie that we reviewed in
our first year of as a show. Because those episodes
don't get listens. Nobody listens to those episodes. We got
to redo some of them. But uh, yeah, there's a
lot of things we might be doing. So take you know,

(01:56:03):
come celebrate with us as we celebrate three years, which
is absolutely insane, So come hang out with us and yeah,
and then after that, we're gonna be ending our month
of nineteen ninety one with the Adams Family with oh yeah, uh,
and we're gonna be having an amazing guest for that
so stay tuned for all that fun. And before this

(01:56:26):
episode gets too long, we are gonna end here. So
until next time, I am Brett Parker. That is Dan
and Angel of DNA Gaming. And that is the famous
Tony Heck the movies, and this has been another episode
of the dissecond a Film Podcast. We'll see all of them.
Let's say bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
I am the Gustav Baver