BONUS AUDIO: The Last Voyage of the Demeter with Movie Dumpster

Here is an episode of Movie Dumpster that I was a guest on. This was for The Last Voyage of The Demeter! 
https://youtu.be/R9lptORJFk0?si=YZ-pUDYgDheCOSEc

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, Tony here again more bonus audio for you.
This time it is the review I did for the
Last Voyage of the Demeter with Movie Dumpster when it
came out fresh. When it came out, me and Joe
saw this together. Sean saw it separately, but the same
day we all got together. We reviewed it right after

(00:22):
seeing it. Uh yeah, this was a fun one. There
was a lot of hype for this movie and I
personally was let down. But I'll just let the audio
play for you and you can find out what I think.
And uh yeah, hope you've been enjoying all the bonus
audio I've been putting out this month. I'm gonna go
back into the back catalogs of my friends shows that

(00:43):
I was on and see if there's any more I
could put out for you. But yes, here is the
Movie Dumpster episode for the Last Voyage of the Demeter
that I was a guest on.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Enjoy. Hey, what's up, and welcome back to Ripe Reviews.
Today we're talking about the Last Voyage of the Demeter
from twenty twenty three record by Andre Overdaal And I'm
Joela Scola, I'm Sean Rourke.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm Tony from mac the movies. That's my camera. I
look there.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That certainly is your camera anyway. The Dracula in twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh, I was waiting for the intro to play. Does
that not play live?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, I know you put that in post. Okay, I
have let's look like a real idiot. Yeah, that already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
The Last Voyage of the Demeter, the second Dracula to
come out this year.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
What was the first track? Redfield? Oh? Oh, I don't
count that.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I see that studio that was actually really good. But
I Redfield is I have a review of it. I
did in my monthly wrap up, and I'm put on
the clips.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Now. Redfield's a lot of fun. Okay. I have not
watched your review because I want to see it, but
also but also like I wasn't gonna pay for it, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Last Voyage of Demeter. I was excited for this one.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So was I. I saw it. I was like, holy shit,
there's this scary Dracula movie and it's on the boat
and yeah, we're turned it into fucking mister Barlow knows Faratu.
I'm with it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I don't know if I was excited, but I was
definitely intrigued. Like you see that trail, I'm like, okay,
that's say angle I haven't really thought of before. And
then you like research it for five minutes, like, oh,
they've been trying to make this for.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Like thirty years.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm always a sucker for the period piece though. Yeah,
and if they've been cooking this for thirty years.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Sometimes it gets reworked overthought, Yeah, it could have been
reworked with a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the idea of.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Taking just a chapter of something and making a movie.
And I listened to the chapter on the way to
the theater. Okay, yeah, I wasn't even thinking of that.
My brain was swimming from the day. But I agree
with you.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love the idea of pulling a little like story
right out of that and like making like blowing it out,
you know what I mean, Like what did happen on
the boat? Yes, I mean we get that, we get
the journal entry, but like it's fun, it's fun to
kind of blow it out. And yeah, and as I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Listening to the chapter, I'm like, yeah, there's a lot
of wiggle room for a movie here, Like he the
captain mentions a few specific events.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yep, and then which happened, and you can just to
the point.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, there's a few that don't happen, and it gets
a little weird at the end, but yeah, you can
like make something out of that. I'm like, that's a
cool concept for a movie. It would be cool to
see other movies doing that, like, hey, we're gonna do
just this. The only one I can think of is
The Hobbit three that didn't work out. That didn't work
out so well. But there's probably other books out there
where you could take like a chapter.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And make it its own thing. I haven't watched the
Third Hobbit movies since I saw it in theaters, and
you know that I love me some Lord of the
Rings and being in Middle Earth and worst Lord of
the Rings movie of all times easy.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I feel like everyone involved would be like, yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Right, somebody I don't know. I had a phone off
the hook in the other room and was phoning it
in from the another phone. It was Peter Jackson. He
was like, gun to the head. It was studio like finished.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
This fuck because that was the better version because they
had to take a break because they were all burned out.
But anyway internet to I like the concept of doing that. Yeah,
there's other way.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, I'll come up something yes later. What are our
first impressions? We could start talking about the movie in
a spoilery way because we know it's still in theaters
at the moment we had just gotten back from it.
So Sean, wht'd you go? First? I thought it was
pretty good?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Uh, not great, not bad by any stretch. It's a
solid three out of five for me.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Uh, mostly because of some story beats that I just
was like, really scratched my fucking head of bat And
we'll get about towards the end there. But like the
aesthetic and the atmosphere of this film and just it
actually has some legitimate jump scares, which is kind of
rare these days. I feel like, so, yeah, pretty damn
good overall, but I have some major problems that sink

(04:57):
it a little okay pun intended.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh well, there were some rough waves for this film.
I can't do a goddamn.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
That ship has sailed tone, You're done. You just did
what I can't. Well, you know it was when this
movie's rocking, don't that's the band one damn it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, for me, I you know, points for trying. I
enjoyed it overall, but I'm sitting there, I'm like, ah,
you really had something here, but you fumbled it. You
made a couple decisions that I wouldn't have made, but
I was willing to go forward with it, and it
fumbled it at the end.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
For me, it really fumbled at the end. I thought
that we were going to set sail for adventure. Yeah,
I got you on that one too. But overall, I
think the movie was was decent, like it was fine.
I think it drags ass a little bit to the
it where it's like why, why Why were some of

(06:03):
these things? Why were some of these decisions made? I
really love that it's a period piece. That's my favorite
part about it, and it is. It is pretty to
an extent. I did have a little bit of a
problem with the special effects, but we'll talk about that
as well. And I did not like that ending.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't think any of us like the ending fucking
sucks some way have to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Really took that really took a shit. But yeah, So
if you have not seen The Last Void of Demeter
and you don't want to hear any spoilers, we'll be
right back here, so hip pause or if you want
to listen to them spoilers here they come, drink them in.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
If he asked me, this movie was all two percent
hydrogen and not enough one percent oxygen.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm still trying to a boat joke. It's water. I
tried to do a water thing.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
It let you your body burst in flames after seeing
it in a positive way, I guess to the joke.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Has jumped ship. Okay, yes, so bad. I'd also like
to know. But as we as we dive into this, uh,
how are you gonna do this so well? Did you?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
We've been doing this show for six years, Tony, we
have a bit of a report.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Poor, Yeah, so do we. It's okay, you'll get.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
One of the catch up Okay, anyway, say what you're
gonna say.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I missed the first like ten minutes of this movie,
by the way, Okay, tell the story please, because he's
telling he text me, I'm like, what do you mean
you miss the first Well, so don't you reserve for
you when they were in uh not London.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's supposed to be whatever Dracula is getting loaded onto
the boat?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, so you don't miss much I didn't miss much.
I kind of can figure it out. I've you know,
seen many versions of Dracula.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Over the years, obviously the one with Lei Nielsen, if
you see, obviously.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
In fact, I did an impersonation of him in your
It was actually in the drag end of the Dracula Bridge.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
What was it, Stanley Kubricks, Bram Stokers. That would have
been the most amazing I think I actually said that
in the bram Stoker's track, right, if it was Cubic,
we would have been zooming in on coffee cans or something.
Oh yeah, awesome. Sorry anyway, anyway, anyway, so I got there.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I bought my tickets ahead of time, but you know,
didn't eat dinner, so I got to get something to
eat for watching the movie.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh you got hit with them fucking lines, didn't you. Well,
I got the stubs. I got the stubs, baby at
Ama stubs, barbecue sauce. I did get some barbecue sauce.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I pre ordered the meals now, so they're ready for
me to I should have fucking done that, That's what
I should have it in the app, and I didn't
do it.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, fucking wining and dining in there watching long story short,
it was half off or some ship on Tuesdays. So
I guess, hey, good deal.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
If you want to go to AMC on Tuesdays, check
your local listings. Yeah, but because of that, there was
like a million teenagers there.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So to get the pretzels for my wife, I had
to wait like ten minutes and then I, uh, you know,
by the time I got to the theater again, I
missed the opening scene.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
That's fine, you missed you missed the romani or the
gypsy's fucking riding them down the mountain.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, you missed the flash four word to the British
finding Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I did read that on Wikipedia because I was like,
what the hell did I met? They find it? Just
in case you didn't know how the movie ended, we
want to show you right in the which I thought
that was weird.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But yeah, also we kind of pointed out they're like
everyone's dead.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Here's the log book and.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
The guy's reading it in the rain and the inkstry
and the whole time of just like shut the book,
the ink is running.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Also, there's no bodies on this ship. Well, as we
find the end of the movie, there's no bodies in.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
This how it ended there's like one or no, there
are probably two bodies on the ship.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, he's like, oh my god, I couldn't go on there,
there's bodies everywhere.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, there's only two bodies on the ship. They got
rid of all the other carcasses, including the animals. Question Mark, Dude,
I feel like, oh my god, there's just two guys.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
But like I feel like a lot, maybe not every
part of them, a lot of the times after Dracula
kills one of these people, especially like as the movie
moves on, do you just come back to like where
they were last seeing there's just like a grease stain
like on the ground.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, probably there's probably blood all over it. So just
in case if anybody at home doesn't know. This is
based off the captain's logs chapters of Bromstoker's dract which
how did you feel about that opening crawl? About that?
I thought that was kind of fine.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I thought it was fine, And they were like just.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
A brief people like, wait, what is this. Dracula's on
a boat.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I don't want They were like a Russian schooner with
apparently no Russian crew except like one guy.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh, there's one guy.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Did this and this is the captain's log and then
it goes it's from the novel Dracula.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm like, okay, wait, I'm like wait, hold on on.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It so wait, so now I have to know that
the novel Dracula exists in this universe.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well what now you're overthinking it. It's so the Stoker
Estate can have people go by the book. Literally, this
feels added in. Yeah, because the way oh fucking the
star Guard came out, didn't it, people aren't going to
understand it.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's on Netflix now, the Dinosaur that just came out
sixty five Oh.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Maybe I enjoyed it needs an action beat earlier. Okay,
but is it like Dino Crisis.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, the magic is gone.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But the beginning because apparently they I have a review
of that, but they like messed the producers kind of
tinkered with it. You don't say the beginning like starts off.
And they put this in the trailer too, But the
beginning literally looks like a trailer for the movie you're
about to watch. It's like sixty five million years ago
a visitor came to Earth and it's like, yeah, I know,
I saw the trailer. That's why I'm watching the movie.

(11:29):
Why are you telling me in the movie?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's a spoiler too, isn't it. That's like a review.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, sorry, it was gonna be like a twist that
they were on Earth, and producers were like, nor, no.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It didn't work for Planet of the Apes. Yeah sci
fi movies ever.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, yeah, so I did that. That opening crawl felt
a little weird. It was really just that last sentence,
like by the way it said the book Dracula, It's fine,
there should been another one, like remember Tracula Bella LEGOZI.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was excited for a period piece, Yeah, because there had.
In my humble opinion, there hasn't been a really good
Dracula movie since Francis fort Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. I
think that is the end all be all, of the
telling of the actual story without any fucking fanciful bullshit.
I mean, the love story. But I'm also fine with it. Yeah,
it works, and especially between just kind of stolen from

(12:23):
the Jack Plance version. But yeah, but like I'm fine
with it. It's fine, like I think, but I feel
like that's a definitive film version of it. So it's
fun to kind of play in the same time period again.
And the whole time Tony and I were joking like,
oh yeah, fucking Winona right, like riders off doing something
that was the Oh yeah, oh yeah it was. It
was all shared universe. So like for the Crates, uh,

(12:46):
the guy, the one guy who gets on the boat
and it's like, oh, I'm not I'm not touching this
because there's the seal of the Dragon or whatever. So
he fucks off and almost kills the kid by dropping
the thing. And Tony's like, how the fun did they
get the sigil on there of the dragon? And I
was like, fucking Keanu Reeves is in that dungeon? Would
brand in.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Those I just like the drag that was branding his
boxes of dirt, Like, okay, the Skyrims. I know why
it's important to Dracula, but I don't think anyone else
would have any interest in boxes of dirt.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, I don't think they know what's in it, right, No? No, No,
I think they do know.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I think they they find out later that it's the
dirt wells abby five thousand pounds of doot.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, that they know what's in the boxes. They don't
know the purpose of it except that one with a
big crust on it.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It didn't say like it just said dirt to be said.
I think they say experimental dirt in like uh the book,
like maybe, but it doesn't say like by the way,
it's from a magical castle and there's like a vampire there.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Later.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
They don't have like the items like on a list.
They're like pin the one Larry Talbot came sung obviously, No,
he kicks.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Those later and he gets those duds from England. Yeah, yeah,
so I mean again, everything's fine. Polka Dot man is there?
What's his name again? Daniel Maskellen. I always butcher his
last name. He was just in. He was just in
the Boogeyman like him a lot. He was fine.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, and are bros. We're both in Christopher and Batman there.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes, we have our main character, Clemens, who is like.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Which I like because that was an Alien three name.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh there you go. Maybe maybe it's an ancestor. It
did feel a little bit of like Alien three towards
the end.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
But yes, yes, he's a he's a doctor and I
like his arc. So what do you do with a
bunch of people on a boat in Dracula. Instead of
just making it a kind of by the numbers even
though it kind of is by the numbers movie, is
that you add a little element to it. Where like
he was a doctor, he went to Cambridge. He's like
an also an astrologist, not an astrologist, an astronomer, excuse me,

(14:53):
two very different things. He's an educated black man in England,
but he can't get a job. Corey Hall. By the way,
Corey Hawkins, thank you. It was doctor dre st Okay.
I was trying to place that. Okay, okay. He was
also on that shitty twenty four seas.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, he was in a legacy right, he was in
kong Skull Island.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I saw.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh he was the younger version of that scientist who's
in the newer one.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, Miles Dison, he's the exactly I actually, I actually
liked that. It was like a black dude. I didn't
screamwok in the theater. I usually doth else because like,
if Track is picking these people off one by one,
there's gonna be a lot of less trust and of
course a bunch of white guys and the eighteen hundred

(15:38):
will probably be.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like, well it was probably that guy. Well they don't
let him on the boat because they're like, wait a second,
Yeah they're a black doctor. Yeah I don't think so. Yeah,
so you're like, uh, you're not strue.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I thought that was going to add into like the
whole paranoia part, but.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
That doesn't really happen. Don't play with that. Yeah, they
don't play that up and tease that with.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
The one rushing guy and you think that's in the
ghost somewhere, but then they kill him first, and I'm like,
all right, why bother?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I mean, it's okay, it's eighteen seventy nine, Like it's
a period piece movie. You can go in on it,
you know what I mean, if you want to play
it that way. But case in point is Clemens has
a good overarching story where like he can't figure out
why life is the way it is, and like he's
done everything right and he just keep getting delta shithand right.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean, here lively in the eighteen hundreds, I would
just be like, everything sucks. I know, not only everything
just kind of sucks. Well, he like it'll suck forever.
Against all odds. He became an educated black man. But
then everybody was like we're not hiring you. Sorry, all
the positions are filmed. He talks about that, Yeah, that's
fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
But like that whole journey of like the meaning of
life and all that kind of shit, And and when
he's talking to the kid, he's like, you know, things
happen for reasons and life really actually sucks big time,
and that comes full fucking circles. I feel like that.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
He's like, I need the world to make sense. Like, oh, man,
you're about to beat a batman a man bat Yeah,
I'm sorry a man that a man back, very I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's also copyrighted.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hey, a person who can appear as a bat sometimes Dracula, Dracula, Dracula.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's just great. You're telling me we got a goddamn
Dracula in here with this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
We have the Toby, who is the captain, played by
Lean Cunningham.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
He was great son. Yeah, And then there's a few
other characters.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
There's like the big rushing guy, the other big rushing
guy who I forget his name, but he plays fucking
Colosses in the Deadvil movie.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Which is pretty crazy. He told us that before we started.
I liked that.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think he was Asian the like Asian ship is
like very religious. Oh yeah, he won't feed you if
you're if you use the lord's name in vain.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
And you better love Santa Claus because he's the protector
of ships, because he's like, what do you do? You know?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Saint Nicholas is like patron Saint a ships and this
before Coca Cola kind of okay, And I'm like, why
didn't he say Santa Claus?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Is he a center Clauds?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I mean, I was fully expecting if any character was
gonna do some damage with the Cross, it would be
that guy we don't even gets.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Also, sunlight and Dracula kind of doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
It's not really a thing in the novel too much, right,
And the way Coppola did it was like it just
weakens him. It doesn't. It's just not there. He needs sunscreen,
which is fine.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, it's just like it's just not when they would
normally be out.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
But it makes for some really cool fucking scenes. Yes, yes,
so drags on the boat and can we talk about Dragon?
All right, here's something do you want to just get
it out of the way.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, I want to talk about something that really colored
my viewing of this film. Okay, okay, so we're smart ish.
I mean, I can't come I consider myself an intelligent
human being. I can't come up with water puns on
the fly, but you guys can. But I like to
think I'm a smart guy.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's all right, you're not drowmoned anymore.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean, they put out a feature it before this.
And by the way, Dracula is a javiar, not barkedam Bartet.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It was heavy or Bartet or I think that's his name,
the guy who played Mama.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Or I know him as the Crooked Man from The
Crooked Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
But he's done a ton of shiite. I was like,
I'm thinking, what the fuck did they get that guy?
Or Doug Jones or somebody.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, because he is a tall guys like kind of
like all sluper thin. But no, So they did a
feature read on all the makeup effects that he did,
and they're like, yeah, we're using these makeup stuff. This
whole feature came out and I'm just like, yeah, but
I've seen the trailer. None of that made it into
the movie, And like, you know, the weird part is
they're talking about the makeup effects and every time they
cut to a clip from the movie.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
It's the CGI model.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Now, granted, they had the makeup effect on screen, so
the CGI model looked pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But when it was practical for like, yeah, two scenes,
it looked so good and I'm like, you could do
such creepy shit with this, and why does he look
like a fucking CGI shit show?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, but like it could have looked worse, but the
fact that he was on screen. Yeah, it's always good
to have the practical thing on screen, even if you're
gonna paint it over in CGI.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
You're gonna if you're gonna fucking have them fly around
and shit, I totally get that, but like it was.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Really annoying me because the studios are doing this now,
they're pretending they don't use as much CGI as they
do not. Nolan just got called out because they're saying
like there's no CGI and Oppenheimer apparently none of the
visual effects people got credited, and then they were like
laid off after the movie.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
What are we it's going on?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
And it's like we did a period piece and you're
in a city. Obviously you use some CGI to clear
up a lot of this.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's very expensive if it's not.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, But then there's like a lot of this and
I'm just like the the feature effort is really annoyed
me because it's just like, no, but I know you're
gonna paint over it. Yeah, And all the clips we counted,
I think maybe we got.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I mean, there's confirmed for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Maybe there are five shots, not scenes, no shots, and
we're talking, we're talking one or two seconds where we
think it's actually practical.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
There's probably the end when he's got the trench coat on,
maybe when he's in the bar, when walking.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
When he's in the bar, when he's curled in the
corner of the room, at before he kills the kid,
when the first season I think is even CG. But
then there's one shot where you where he's like half
lit where you can see and then when he grabs
the dude what the hand? Yeah, and and the wing
on what's her face?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
He kills a couple people where he's like over them
like a zombie or I guess like a monster or
an animal. One of those looks really bad, and one
of them actually I thought looked decent.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Maybe one of those, well they didn't face his two
fucking seeds.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think they did a thing actually, So he's very
CG in the beginning, and then after he eats a
couple of people is when he starts standing upright. And
then that's when we noticed the practical thing. I'm like, oh,
I think they just CG. I did in to be
like a little squirrely monster thing. But I'm like, oh,
but now we're back to CGI. So I saw book,
Like I said, I saw the Boogeyman. That's a whole
CGI monster. It looks good, but you could tell they

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didn't have a practical thing on set because of how
it's built.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
But that sucks but looks way better in this movie.
But I'm just I'm annoyed.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm not so much annoyed about the CGI draga, I'm
annoyed about the lie that they pretended sure that it
was all practical. I'm like, it's fucking not zero, Yeah,
what are you talking?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Just we can have this guy in a fucking roade
flying around with this like I mean, I love how
it looks forcula basically like flies, like almost like a
flying squirrel.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Or like yeah, which is cool. Yeah, I mean, but
he's a bat the whole time. And oh yeah, that's
again it's like half battery. It's like that, like that
first thing, he doesn't react, no, no, but like when
we get to the when we get to the end
of the movie, he still looks the same. Just think
he was just doing that to fuck with the guy
in the fan bat form like ahead, it's fucking dumb.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But anyway, like Castle Vania Stiff in the Night that
first version, you fight, big fucking thing. But beginning the
fucking Gary Oldman version, yeah, kind of. Well, the thing
when they when he like goes after the man.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Cross, I'm guess the Dracula forgot he has some powers.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
We'll get into that. Oh you mean like turning into
mist and hit. I thought the one time.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
They do the miss kind of like the the what
is it the thirty one version where it's like there's
missed and then Dracula is not there and then they're like.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh, look Draculus. You can kind of like, well, what
did he turn into miss Dracula. Dracula definitely conjured some
kind of miss from then from the boat.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I know he didn't say Renfield Nicholas Cage turns into
mist that goes into a guy's body, explodes.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
You got anyway. So yeah, they're so we have this
this Anna character and like she she was she's tracks
like you know, uh in flight Meal that he was
like keeping in a bag. Yeah pretty much. Now, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I thought I really enjoyed the tight, small cast that
they had. Then they introduced this girl and she really
muddies the waters.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Finally did it. I did it. I did it. I
did it.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah being sexist, yeah you go, yeah, hooray, whoa, I'm
not being sexes yet. It's boys by the way over
hack the movies. I kicked all the girls off the channel.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So like, I don't mind the character, but like it
just feels for she's just there to be like, uh yeah,
there was big Castle in and there's a Dracula is Anna.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
So she's basically filling the need of Anna impredator who
goes by the way, this thing my village talks about
and it comes down here, kills a couple of us
and then fucking lizard. But it's like fishing buddies and
then gut leaves fat.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, yeah, literally, Anna's literally here to do that. By
the way, it's Dracula.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But it's so like that's what she's said she's like,
there's this monster in his name's we call him Dracula,
and he's a fucking whatever. And she's like I don't
know how to kill him or anything, but.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, she says all that. But after a half an
hour of this fucking doctor giving her blood transfusions, and
I'm sitting at there like, oh, yeah, she's a vampire.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
She's a fucking vampire. Yeah we're here. That's infection. Oh
he also called that out, which we were.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Talking about, like even the bram Stokers they do that.
I'm like, man, when did people find out about blood types?
Because you watch these movies, right blood transfusions, Like, man,
I hope they are.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
A mad well if they die, they're just like, oh,
it was the infection. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
There's all that like fake tension where it's like, well
it's a woman, not brad luck get worried her.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, that is like an old sailor's thing in the
ship and like in any other circumstances would have thrown
her overboard blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But
the Captain's like, I don't you know, it's his last
voyage on the Demeter tam so he's a Danny fucking
Glover with that ship man. Well he just oh that
that sucks, man, that sucks for him.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Fuck yourself.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Anna comes out and it's like, dude, like she does
not need to be there. It would have been so
much better in mind, not because it's a woman. If
it was a dude, it would have been the same
fucking thing. We I don't need it. The fun part
about it is people are dying and there's a fucking
monster around the ship and we don't know anything about
the way.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's the fun part with the chapter. When we hear
from this, they're like, what is going on? He's like
a guy is missing, and then it's like, holy shit,
another guy is missing.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
It didn't all just go over.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
People are saying they're seeing a dude. Yeah, there's one
that they didn't end up doing. There's literally a guy
who's gone so crazy and he realizes Tracula doesn't go overwater,
so he.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like just jumps into the ocean.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
We we just to escape Tracula, and they almost do that,
but then they don't go all the way.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
But that's literally the book. They cheap out on that.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
At no point does the captor go by the way
it's count drac HeLa.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, they're like they don't know what the fuck is.
I feel like this movie doesn't really go full on
in the creep factor, and I feel like you could
have done some really creepy shit, like I'm talking Nightmare
at twenty thousand feet George Miller, Twilight Zone movie shit
where there's a creepy fucking thing, it's raining, he's got
the he o, he's got the wheel of the ship,

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and he sees off that this is another guy and
he's is that a man? What's doing crawling all over
the fucking thing? Crawling up there.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Problem is this is like a forty something. This is
like a mid budget forty million dollars. Yeah, so you
need to see the monster more so you could put
it in the trailer, I guess. So it didn't work. No,
we're the three of the only people who have seen
this I know. But I appreciate them building that boat set,
even though there's a lot of obvious green screen and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I mean some of it. It's like Jesus, that's every
movie right now.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Though there's there's usually one or two shots that are like, oh,
that's a reshoot. I think pray when she's first having
this was clearly shot like a month ago. But I
also I can look past that show ye me too.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I also feel like they knew this was gonna be
mostly a nighttime film because of the content of the movie, so.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
They were kind of like, well, we don't have to
go as hardcore on.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
But I like the like the boat that they build
and everything. They put a lot of money even that,
like that little town that they're in.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Then in Romania. Yeah, the town film good. The boat
is creepy. It's shot, but right, it looks great. If
like if it was like just on the.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Boat with like less characters and stuff, maybe they could
pull down the budget and gotten away with like that creepy.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Vision there's only five people. But instead they're like.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's forty million budget, not counting advertising. We need to
see this monster jumping around.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I guess, so, like they could have made it creepier.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
As my point, yeah, they do try, and maybe they
don't accomplish that. Like I do like the stuff where
they make because they do show how big this fucking
boat is, which I feel like even in that original
Legosi film, it's like, you know, it's big, but it's
a model, so you don't ever really get a good
feel for the actual size of it or as they
this thing's fucking huge.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
And there's scenes where his characters they talk about how
they knock on the the just really good. I love
that they should have did more with that, and we
don't really do anything on scene they do something with
it where Dracula fuck's with them, but yeah, but it's
so like, oh they knocked back, but like nothing, there's
no means to an end there. Also, Dracula's kind of
an idiot in this movie. Is like it's not just

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a crazy beast, he's of an intelligent being.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Fuck, it's like, I mean, he ate most of your
food source day one. He probably shouldn't have done that. Also,
he was biting his time and like so like.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
My box like fell down and he bothered to like
clean it up or anything.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
He probably should have Like wow, W wanted them to
like secure the boxes a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Okay, so let's get into why this fucking shit doesn't work. Okay,
On is out of the box. Whatever you can blood
transfusion or all the fuck you want, he ain't going anywhere. Yeah,
you know what I mean? Why isn't Tracula just taking
her back, abducting her again, instantly putting her back in
the box and like sucking her dry. Yeah, they didn't
really write around that. We find the like that pissed
me off, and then like it could have done with

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another rewrite because it's like, oh, we found Dracula's coffin.
They opened it so easily. They opened they opened They're like, oh,
and he's not in there, but the cane's in there, right,
and it's like, oh shit, well, where the fuck is he?
Not once do they ever, like there's three days in
between they do that, and then like at the end
of the movie, and not once do they ever fucking
go back down there during the day to look for

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his ass to kill him. And then at the end
they're like, oh, well we know where he sleeps. It's
like you fucking known for the past week. I love
the sun just went down, let's go check it out.
Three fucking people burst into flames.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The only thing I can think of is like, is
there a deleted scene where they did wait for him
by his coffin and he hid somewhere else?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Is he in one of the other boxes of dirt.
I assume they don't have the stuff to lift all
those boxes.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Because otherwise dump them in the ocean.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, but yeah, but if I was that when I
was a hatch and just start hammering them on the
side and be like, pour all that dirt out?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Is he in there? It also sang shoot him.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And it also seemed like a lot of the time
when they were like actually investigating this, I mean towards
the end, they are like hardcore trying to find this guy.
Once it's like down to three or four people, but
like for most of the film, it's like Clemens is
just like, all right, it's after hours. I worked all day,
I'm kind of bored. Let me just look down here.
That's like what it felt.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That's what it felt. Yeah, right. And then the other
thing was like, uh, you're telling me this romani woman
who's been living in this village, who's young, and this
has been happening for decades. This fucking months has been
like they made a deal with them to give him
like sacrifices. She speaks perfect English. Well not only that,
but well for the viewers of I'm kidding, but like
doesn't know have any fucking thing that she could add

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to be like, well he doesn't like server Silver, Well
he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Like uh, he limited the information.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I know what I'm saying. I'm saying, how the fuck
does Abraham van Helsing know all this shit? And they
have no idea? They're the one They're the ones there.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I mean what because he like the minus Tis obviously libraries,
He's got those tomes.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
He went through them.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well even.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I don't know, maybe this will work, might work. Well,
he was a crazy drunk, so he did do.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Pretty sure Dracula doesn't allow that village to have books
on vampire.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh this is also true. Also, this is can't where
we told you this is Cannon with Bramstone Princes. Bramstuck
talked about this in our book.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
In the movie episode of a Vampire Dollars time, we
literally had this exact common verization.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Actually it was funny because I was actually in the
bathroom when she gave the whole backstory, so I missed it,
and I was like, Joe, did she mention that he
became a vampire because like, his girlfriend died, then he
stabbed Across and then he screamed the.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Blood shot out.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
We were like Arry oldman drink the challenge and you
were just like, yeah, she was just like he had
the cool meat armor. It was very cool and he
looked very bad.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
He was like a dragon god.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I kind of want to start talking about some of
these kills because he also talks in the movie, which
is like a little bit not kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But if you don't, I can't even hate on you
four because it is silly. It's Dracula. But he's always
like he just repeats what they say. It's never like
some cold blooded ship anyway, it's he does at the end.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
He always says that kind of with the leve He's like,
oh no, he's Dracula. I do like that he smiles
and stuff like, oh yeah, because he is. That was
my issue looking at the trailer. I'm like, are they
gonna make him just like a mindless monster.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
He's all powerful Dractula. Yeah, yeah, So I do like that.
He's kind of like winking and out and like I'm
a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Well yeah, because we start getting these kills. So his
first that fucking guy that is is like, I.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Don't trust this woman.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
We gotta get rid of the I guess rushing guy.
Oh again, not to keep repeating myself, but you that
you think is gonna be more of a secondary antagon
is he's.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Nope, He's the only Russian thing on that boat killed instantly.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Which is kind of a cool kill because you get
like this visceral like bite attack on from Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I do, like, like Dracula looks weak and then just jumps.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That's thing because he crawls out of his fucking casket
looking for his fucking snack, and he's like he's like
this decrepit, like old fucking man and he's walking until
he gets juiced up and he gets the dog in
the animals first, you know, yeah, but yeah, then he
gets this guy, fucks him ap hardcore dude drinks him alive.
One of the best ones is the guy that he
the I think it's the Irish guy. He jumps on
the backup and fucking smashes this dude's face into Oblivio.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh my god, I was I thought it was cool
that he actually killed the kid.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, but that was a great scene. That's intense, part
of the one of the best scenes.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
But then I got it, by by the way, so yeah,
he is able to make lesser vampires. I guess they're
the equip He's basically not so much Renfield.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
They're like ghouls.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
They're more like like his brides are gown. Yeah, but
they don't they don't bite people. They literally like they're
under his command. Yeah, they don't have like free Willer anymore.
They they don't have fangs either. They're just like his minions,
his rules. So yeah, so he like gets the big guy,
the Colosses guy who attack one of the more sympathetic
characters because he actually sees Dracula a few times. He's

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the first one to see him.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, which more of that, please, and we only get
that like once.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but yeah, he's like trying to kill the kid.
They stop him, and then Draculas in the room and
kills the kid. But then like the next shot they
show the kids alive. I'm like, ah, they wimped out.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
But and then we were like, oh, I had the
same thought.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I was like, are you kidding me? How the funk
would he be alive? Dracula was ripping his throat.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I was like holding him up. I'm like werewolf in
fucking bad movie. Oh yeah, oh dude, Yeah, but he
like picks him up and what I thought was cool.
Was like when he bites the kid, you see the
fucking color drained from his face. Yeah, and I was
like that was cool. Yeah. Anyway, the kid fucking dies.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, but then like I like, at his funeral, they're like, oh,
he's moving.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
They open it up, and like because they already found
out that the Russian lit on fire, yeah they yeah,
well the fucking they They had him tied to the
mask and the son comes up and he's like, it
burns and then all of a sudden he goes into
flames and they all just look at him. That was
an incredible It was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
And then they see the kid waking up and the
other cat then goes up to him.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You're like, oh, no, he ran. He's kind of like
losing it. There's this greaving grandfather's like he moved, he moved.
He rips open the fucking thing. The kid sits up,
sets on fire. He fucking like in Seddinary grenades, Grandpa.
It's like fucking leviath In all over again. I'm getting
a slash. Dude. He's holding this kid and his fucking
hands are getting burnt to a crisp. His fucking head,

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his face. Yeah, it all goes off. Did you guys
watch Midnight Man or Midnight Yeah, Midnight Mass No no
from the from the the Netflix one from like no no, no no. Yeah,
there's some pretty good. There's another movie from the two thousands.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, there's some pretty good, like vampires, like vampire and
actually one of the newer VHS movies they do a
thing where like vampire Blood that was good. Vampire blood
is like so explosive. They like put vampire blood in
a rabbit and put it outside it like blows of God.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Those guys that have it like captive, like it's super flat.
He was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'm like, dude, it can't be that flammable. Like the
sun reflecting off the moon would blow up every vampire if.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
It was that flowerful, like don't cut him.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So, like the whole thing is like they they don't
want to like go to shore even though the shoreline's
like right in view, because they're like gonna get paid
double if they get the London fast even though they're
getting picked off. So then eventually, like you know, as
things started to get more uh dire, then people are
just like all right, I don't fucking care about the money.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Anymore. We need to kill this thing.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
But this is when you have like the Asian guy
the boat by himself.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Okay, that bothered me. Okay, that he's like, how how
the fuck can Dragula go?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I feel like in the book that might have been
the guy who just drumped in the water to get
rid of dragul and I was like, to be.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Free of them.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I was like, oh, he's the whole point of being
on the boat is because Dracula can't travel over water.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
He's flying all over the fucking place.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, And I'm like, okay, I'm like, all right, you
have to put something where like is there like a
range for how long you can do it? Because like, uh,
did you ever see fifty four feet? I guess they've
remade it several times now, but I'm thinking the original, Uh,
let the right one in? Yeah, Okay, there's the scene
where he's like, what happens if I don't invite you in?
You come in and shows and like she is able
to like withstand it for a little bit, but it

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will kill him. Like you gotta show me something like
where if Dracula like goes over water it hurts him
a little.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
But we're not talking about a stream or even a river.
It's about the metafucking teraneums. It's literally the ocean.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
It's been a problem for by the way, he had
to wait for like technology to advance to the point
where you can ship dirt long distances.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Well, I love yeah, So I thought that was weird.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I think that is literally in there for an aesthetic
kind of thing where it's like this kill is cool,
where this guy's on the boat praying himself and then
dragon like a gargoyle.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
If it was like, oh, he was already on that
boat and then he gets back to the main they
were gonna do.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, but it wasn't even that good of a kill.
It's an offscreen kill and the boat comes back to.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Like, oh my god, there's a bloody guy and a crucifix.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It did not thing for some reason.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
And again there's like other issues because like in the
book they say the captain was tied to the wheel.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Which they do, but then they also tie but like
Dracula ties him to it. Yeah, was like.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
In the book he ties himself with the cross, like
he's like making sure he doesn't get caught. But they
say he's been dead for like three days and they're like, wow,
it's the last day to get to London. I'm all right,
you're making a lot of changes.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Okay, Well, the last start of this movie, they said, hey,
we're gonna try to be quitting Tarantino just because let's
just change some ship. Oh yeah, I mean we added
this character Clems just because I had a lot to
fill in this whole fucking movie. Don't get me wrong,
but it's like, all right, well, let's just totally go
off script now.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But I like, I like.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
The end where they're like, hey, we gotta like we're
gonna force him out there.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
There had to be a standoff. Yeah right, I mean
that's just I mean, that's just the way.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well he kills that fucking Irish guy instantly, and you're like,
all right, I think this guy might last a while.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Four seconds into the battle, he's hanging by this fucking
off the sail. He pulls him off the fucking rope
and then like side swipes him in mid air against
a fucking sail. Uh you know, and then and then
uh polka dot man. He also gets taken out of
a chump. He gets taken out like a chunk. He's
like vice captain. If he felt all that way through
the ship and hit his face on anything, which he does,

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he'd be dead. But he only suffers a broken leg.
We need that dramatic killed Joe where he was crawling
away in the storage are because he gets up and
he's like, gonna sink. They're gonna sink the boat. That's
the plane, Dracula or whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Which again, now he can fly, I mean he'd be
fuck his all his dirts in the water well, which
again Tracula is being a little kidd a little carried away.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's like, dude, you'll cocky.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
It's like, dude, maybe maybe's just sleep in tonight. I
know you can go a couple of days without food.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Let them go.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
You're so close to the end now, all there talk
about sinking the bait. You fucked up too much. All
your dirt's gonna get well, you're not gonna have anywhere.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
You know, you can't walk it back.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
You know what the problem is him? Well, there's that obviously.
Uh you know all he couldn't drinkin into that salt water. No,
but uh, Dracula in this film, he actually had a
copy of the original branch to I was working with,
but the rest of the movie was working off the
Stanley Kubrick Stokers Dracula.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Which never got me because Tanley Krueper didn't make right.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's why. Then there's this heroic finish with this fucking gun. Well,
it's also the thing, this is the last this is
the lost chapter of the chapters.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, because this shit is just like I already know
where Tony's gonna go with this.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'll let him do his fucking stupid rant.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
But like, okay, like sure, let's there's gotta always be
one character in the movie that's good with the weapon
that everybody else sucks with. So it's Anna, of course
does how he's the rifle and she's a fucking.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Crack shot, but they sacrifice her in the village. I
don't think the weird thing the best hunter. Yeah, I'm
actually I'm actually fine that she's good with the gun.
The weird thing is they show her being really good
with the gun early on shooting guy, but then afterwards
he's like, hey, lady, here's your little wrenky dinky gun
and then starts loading the rifle and he's surprised by it.

(40:54):
I'm like, why are you surprised? You saw her like
unloading the draguar. Like also, he should have been like, oh, yeah,
I'm stupid, I forgot you know, guns, not only that, yeah,
just for continuity.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
She loads like fucking three or four fucking shots in there.
Now we have semi automatic weapons at this point, right,
so you have like revolvers and shit. So like that
rifle is a lever action, so she could shoot it
a couple times with the bullets that are in it.
She shoots Tracula one time, yeah, instead of like fucking
cocking and blowing up. And then you see her like
reloading again, and it's like, wait a second, is this

(41:25):
isn't a musket? Oh they cut out all the scenes
where she missed. Oh I'm busting your chops. There was
a scene where a Seaguell was there.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
She's like, but yeah, with the handoff with the gun
and all that, It's just like I get what you're
going forward. This is a joke I would expect like
in the eighties or nineties. Now I'm just like, is
this like sexist? Is this anti sexist? Why is this happening?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I just think it's bad writing because again, yeah, at
the end of the day, have the scene where it's
a weird comedy scene.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I don't need it.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
If they didn't have the scene where she shot him earlier,
then that might have worked.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
And then he you know, because people assume things about
him and he'd like like all the the problem is
he fucking saw her use the gun. Why is he
so shocked that she's good with guns?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Where he gives her a fucking jeepers creeper rap and
she gets bid again question mark, But then like, uh, I'm.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Gonna raps that one guy gets wrapped by fucking Dracula's wing.
That's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Clemens is like you're you're nothing, You're you sliping dirt
and you're a piece of ship, and Dracula is like,
excuse me, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Dracula is known for not handling disrespect.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's like, I'm not afraid of you anymore. Do you
hear me? I'm not afraid.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Marty McFly being called chicken, Dracula being called a cowler,
there's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So he comes out, he comes out and he just
fucking pimp smacks him across the boat and it's all right, like,
how are you You're not going to fight this guy
with any of the conventional weapons, and I guess bullets
hurt him. Question Mark. Then a little bit, it's very
much like are they so? Are they so for bullets? No?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
But again, as a guy who read the book, I'm like,
turn into miss.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Turned into a fucking wolf. Yeah, that's what I was.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Oh my god, they could have blended in there. I
talked about it in our episode. Remember the deleted scene
from Dragon, Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, the Texas switch.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh yeah, just the guy in the wolf mask in
the golden robe, like, oh thank god, or the other
deleted scene where the wolf like body slams the guy
like a wrestling like they got the cut all at Jesus.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh terrible. It's a real fuck you drag moment because
like they cut a uh something and then and then
they like Texas changed all three because and then like
this fucking thing breaks and like pins and drags like
literally like Figo morts. Yeah, fucking guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
And then at at one point I'm just like, are
they trying to make us think that's just like a
steak in the heart.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I'm like, is that not?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's what That's why I'm making the Quentin joke because
I'm like, are they really fucking doing this?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Like, but I thought it was gonna end like like sure,
the two survivors being knocked off the.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
They need to pin him. They've already established it. The
motherfucker can fly, so we need to pin him to
the boat so that they can make their escape and
then pretend like they are dead or something. Yeah, I mean,
I was fine.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I was.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I assume the movie was gonna have like a survivor
or two.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I had no fucking clue. I was totally fucking side blind.
I know, to be insided.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I expect Hollywood to not do the right thing, so
I expected them to have survivors.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I expected a real lucio ful cheese zombie intro is
what I expected, or like at least a fucking Jurassic
Park the Lost World. I just but yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I was confused that they didn't leave the captain hung up,
because that was the thing, and the last part of
his log is in a bottle on him.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's not even in the rest of the law. It's
not in the book. No, no, and like, and they
didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I'm like, Oh, I thought it was gonna be like
a nice little it's gonna be bookended by actual book
events and in the middle it would be So here's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah with that, with that last fifteen minutes that they
could have used to do that, we Anna is a vampire,
she gets fried the bad Yeah, slow down all.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
My thing though, Like I understand, like from a visual standpoint, like, yeah,
it's cool from a from for watching the movie that,
oh she likes herself on fire, Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Why jump in the water at least to dull the
pain a little? Maybe, I mean she doesn't want to
be a vampire? Yeah, Also, just why don't she prolong
the death? I did like this movie and don't want
to just sound so negative about it.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
But also like when they throw Topy in the water,
I'm gonna be that asshole and be like, why doesn't
he just disintegrate?

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Why is the body just float to the I thought
that was pretty powerful scene. I was like, not only
I don't want to on fire and then throwing him
off the boat and we watch him sink to.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
The But that's why I'm being a hyper fuck's super
nippicky nerd about it.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
And I know I sound like that, so Clemens, So
Clemens makes it to the make. It makes it to shore.
The boat of course beaches and Rod dractically get away.
Yeah he flies away. Great. Yeah. Uh. Then we get
this fucking epilogue with Clemmens in the fucking bar. Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I expected there was gonna be an epilogue where we
see Dracula as a.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Man, just Draculus.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, and then maybe they report like people are going
missing or whatnot, and I don't know. He walks down
the street and Miana's like, I haven't heard from Jonathan
in months something like that. This ending is sequel, baiting
to stuff that didn't happen in the book.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I told Tony, I was like John hurd As after
the credits and he's Frankenstein. Yeah, we were saying Antarctic
right now, and he's like puting a tune together, bait.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I would have been my ending room, just like, Hey,
it turns out that that boat that went to the
North Pole, they also found that everyone froze to death.
And by the way, it turns out, the captain wrote
a letter to his sister about something that a guy
wrote about. That's something that a monster wrote. It was
like a story with a story within a story with they.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
We're gonna tie this all up in that Dracula unbounds, Yes,
and only finally are able to do that. Here's the thing,
here's the better ending. Well, let's let's actually just say
what the ending actually is. That is the ending.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well, Tracula, they see in the bar, and there's like
this weird for like a second shot where you think
he actually looks normal, but then it's like a glamour
or I've just misunderstood that.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I was.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I was waiting for him to be Gary oldman or
like some kind of fine gentleman. That obvious clearly, you
know it's what he's the weird or lock thing.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I guess what they're going for is that he dresses
in shadows, doing that to like mess with the guy.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I don't think he's act. He appears that way.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I thought they were gonna do because I think in
the book they mentioned he had like a mustache and stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I thought they were going to like go all in
on that and I mean like Gary, but then it's like,
didn't have the mustach. Well, okay, yeah, you mean like
big family and Chew meant must wow.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Apparently, when you first see Dracula in the book, he's
like James or something he doesn't have.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
He does look like low pan.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
And then like Clemons just follows Dracula down an alley
and then it's like credits, and I'm like, is this
supposed to be? Like again, like is this Abraham Lincoln
fucking vampire?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Like what are we doing the vampire? Like you are?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
It's that's that's a totally fictional thing. But I get,
you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
He doesn't even just follow him like Tony said, He's like,
and I'm gonna make it more duty to go fucking
to this Dracula men And I'm like, what the f
so are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Walk down the alley and instantly get killed, and then
the rest of the book happens.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That's exactly what happened. Really, Here's here's the here's the ending.
Just fucking leave. Why are you gonna hunt this thing?
Get it out of there. Here's the ending. Clemens is
still treading water like the Jaws ending, and then we
just see, you know, he's going towards London. It's fine. Cut,
we're in the bar now, we're now now we're we're
hearing patrons talk about the Demeter and all, like are

(48:43):
there was four bodies that were all data whatever, and
you know that's fine, and then Dracula's just kind of
there listening to it all, and then you know we
just kind of we just kind of glean that he's
in London. Yeah, that's what I said before. Is Larry
Talbot's fucking Kane? Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
The whole weird sequelbating thing at the end, it's like, universal,
you've tried this so many times and you fail multiple don't.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
How how are you individual stories? How are you gonna
sequelbate a movie that's based on a fucking chapter of
a book with a character that's totally made up, Like,
what what is the play? What is the next chapter based?
I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
I don't want to see it the entire By the way,
this movie is two fucking hours long. It's pretty long, right,
And it's like it's the next one gonna be two
hours of this guy walking down an alley talking to
himself while Dracula goes behind trash cans.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I'm a doctor. I want to see uh.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I want to see the part in the book where
Meena and all them put like their journals together, because
that's the thing the Dracula book is Mina putting together
everyone's journal entries in chronological order to figure out the
sequence of events.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
But then like in the middle of this guy just
comes to like, hey, I'm a doctor. Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I know everything about it the Dracula. He wore a
red meat suit. He was actually the guy that delivered
the Captain's lost. She left that journal out because he
was you know, like she's like, no, right job or mean,
it was embarrassed. She's like, oh, yeah, that guy did
tell me and I thought he was just crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
No, she was like, yeah, it's just that ending. Man,
Like I get you don't want to. It's just I
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Like you had this thing and then you like change
what you were doing like at the end, and I'm
just like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
It just kind of spoiled the kind of movie as
a whole. The ciguard came out for that, like somebody
was like, well, you gotta put that in there. I
just don't get it at all.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Obviously, Dude, the teaser at the end that he's in London,
that's all you.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Jack walking down the fucking street and you're like, that's
Dracula with the top pat and the cane and whatever
you want to do. Like, yeah, I don't even really
like him.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
I gotn't even thrilled that anybody lived, but like sure,
like like Joe said dead, have Clemens fucking float off
and he'll live and we don't ever find out, but hey,
he survived whatever sheriff fucking broke to the shore and
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
He's going.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I don't see him again after he's going to London
and getting fucking stakes and crossed his maiden and he's
gonna hunt.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Like question mark. He doesn't even know how that ship works.
What is gonna feel like? Like, Oh, I know he's
a carfax savvy. That's it. That's all I know. I'm
not gonna stop it. I'm just gonna go there and
see what.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I'll go and see if there's dirt and like throw
shit on it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't know what to do. This immediately gets killed.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I don't know what they try to get this movie
made for thirty years, multiple writers over the years, you know,
getting a passed around, but there, it was almost there.
I don't want to perciferate on this, this concept, but
it's like, what the fuck was the plan for a sequel?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
What the fuck were you gonna do? Why even just
end the fucking movie? And dad it it's supposed to end.
Like again, it's a great idea. Yeah, sure, it's a
great idea, and it was mostly there.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I think it was mostly there. There is mostly a
few again, one more passes the script and then fucking
chop that stupid ending, and I it would have been
more enjoyable for me personally, yes, but I think overall,
I don't know. It's okay, go check it out if
you're a fan of Dracula or just it's it was
nice to see a monster movie. It was nice to
see a good old fashioned, fucking monster movie period piece too.

(52:08):
Would you consider it ripe? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
It's like it's like in the middle. I guess it's
it's like right, but like right after it turned yellow
round starting to appear on.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
The Yeah, the banana is just about brown, right, And
you would think that that's this when this fruit is
the sweetest. But it's a little bittersweet for me.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yeah, uh, don't say it's about ripe.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's about ripe. It's a good way to kill too.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I would like to see other movies like this, though,
I was thinking, like, if you did like a Franken sign,
it would be cool to do because the best part
of that.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I was thinking that to do the whole scene when
he's like by himself before he gets like chased away
by the villagers.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
That's how it ends. I was gonna say, like, or
his bad when he finds when he kills the kid. Yeah,
watch watch our Frankenstein review.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yes, or when the best section of that is.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
When Robert here is by himself. But it'd be cool
to see like a Frankenstein movie. From the creature's perspective.
It literally starts the moment he comes to light.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I think, like, where am I? And he's slipping around, Well,
we know what happens when he gets to uh Antarctica, right,
he walks into the snow and uh the Buchanan sucks
him up exactly exactly. But yeah, yeah, we did the
Frankest Mary Show's Franket's time.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
We joked about it already, but we also did Kenn's
Brown as Mary Shelley's Frank Right, I'm saying we like
I got damn mouse in my pocket now with Joe
we're talking about we did it was just well Joe
joined Tony for the Brave Pokers.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yes, yes, yes, you can watch them all and we're
gonna link to all of them too.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And uh, check out Renfield. Renfield was a good time.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna check that out. One was a.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Really good time. And I mean, if you want like
a really good Dracula, go back and watch my old
web series Bummy Cop the series. By the way, you
know what I I keep forgetting, like maybe I said
in the Dragulbs and so like my rule of vampires
is for me, they have to be at.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
At some point, don't midnight. They need to be a bat.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
And like one of like my biggest regrets in life
is that I didn't have my Dracula turn into a bat.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
But well now you got a whole movie where he's
a fucking bat.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
The problem was he was going to turn into a bat,
and I had to rewrite the entire ending because we
lost a location and we lost a monster truck. There
was going to be a monster truck in season one,
and I had a whole thing where he's a bat
and he gets thrown and then I had to rewrite it.
And then as on editing, I'm like, I broke my
own rule. My god, I've become the thing that I hate.
So seeing a bat monster Dracula, I'm like, I love this.

(54:35):
It was cool, like like bram Stokers are still.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
King, you know, Francs for a couple of brand Stokers.
But the only the other best Dracula. My favorite other
Dracula is not the Lagos. It's Dunk. It's Duncan Ragger
in Monster Squad. I mean he is up there. For
my Dracula is that he's right under Gary little Girl's bitch. Yeah,

(55:01):
but like but like turn it into the fucking bat
and just his whole rapport with everybody, and he was
just great. I like classic in the contemporary I like
My Dead and loving it. But yeah as a movie.
But Leslie that I say, oh my god, that's a
the hair I count track your lie, count track you.

(55:22):
I have a very specific set of skills and I
will suck you. That sounded better in my head. I
love that.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Might be a wolf at some point, I don't know,
but yeah, I I enjoyed the movie. It's a fun watch.
I'm sad that it's bombing because I would like more
movies like this.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It needs more money and it needs a little bit
more time to cook, and I think I feel.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Like they, I feel like it had enough money. They
really just should have.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Like utilized it better, should have just really figured out
the screen.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Maybe maybe it's on YouTube or on like some kind
of streaming service already, but I would like to see
the behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Maybe we gotta wait for a Blu ray for that.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Boy, if it even tell you the truth about the
behind the scenes, because the one behind the scenes thing
I saw was them lying about the practical.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Well yeah, but ideally you would see video of it
if it is real. The part is that it exists,
and it's like, why didn't you just use it? And
that's it. That's an argument we got. I've seen sorry
one last night? Have you seen u?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Sometimes Disney will put out behind the scene for one
of their movies and both digitally color correct the blue
and green screens to be gray because they know people
are used to seeing blue and green screens and they
get mad, so they color them gray.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Weird, but they are clearly blue green screen. In what
fucking world are you looking at it? Going huh? That's uh,
that's definitely not a blue or green screen. Oh that's great.
I'm right, I'm totally And then you see the movie
you're like, well, this is I thought they used a
gray screen. What's what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But yeah, and I like I like the director's other movies.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Check out troll Hunter. Yeah, we didn't even We kind
of glazed over. The Troll Hunter is a good time.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Troll Hunter is awesome and naked or were they planning
on remaking it original troll Hunters.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
No, but there's another there's an American version that was
kicking around, and if that's still happening.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I hope to god it isn't. But there was another
movie that had just come out recently called Troll I think,
and it's about like a Kaiju sized troll. Just that. Oh.
I don't know if he had any I don't think
he had anything to do with that. But the Troll
Hunter was is fucking incredible.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Any did scary stories of telling the dark practical and
the The Autopsy of Jane Doe is really good.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
That one I didn't check out to see that one.
Very good. But yeah, it was a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah, Like Tony say, let's get some more of these.
Maybe let's not make him two hours long. Let's maybe
do ninety minutes if you're going to try this concept again,
because yeah, I guess, like I we kind of said that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I guess not to keep complaining. But it was a
little long and not so bad by the numbers man,
Yeah exactly, but could you had so much room to
kind of play and you I don't know, Yeah this
is anyway. The sequel baiting ending really killed it for
me too. But yeah, go check out the Last Voyage
of the Demeter and we'll catch you on the next
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