Halloween H20 Timeline Reviews - Hack The Movies Review Compilation

Here is a compilation of the Halloween reviews that we did for all the movies in the H20 timeline. You'll see the Halloween 1978 review that I did with Mint Salad on her channel, the Halloween II review I did with Movie Dumpster, The H20 review I did witch Crystal, and the Halloween Resurrection review I did with Casey and Tim.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, Tony here. I don't usually do an introduction
for review compilations, but I wanted to do one for
this particular one. This is going to be a compilation
of our reviews of the Halloween movies in the H
two O timeline. So it's Halloween, Halloween two, Halloween h
two oh, Halloween Resurrection. Now you might be confused because

(00:24):
you're probably saying to yourself, Tony, you never reviewed the
first Halloween. I actually did on Mint Salad channel. That's right.
We did a Mint Salad sl for Halloween, so I
am including it in this compilation. So I wanted to
give you a heads up so you weren't confused when
you heard Mint Salad introducing the audio, thinking it was

(00:46):
just a min salad thing. Nope, this is a compilation
of multiple reviews I did within this particular Halloween franchise,
and I hope you enjoyed. Okay, on with the compilation.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm in Salad and I saw Hollow Halloween. The first
one is directed by John Carpenter. Who are you.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm Tony from Hacker Movies. You know that you know me?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, I know you.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I made you very famous.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I like this site.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Here yeah, this this isn't a set. I mean, this
is my house. Why didn't you tell me you were
doing this? Why did you just show?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I mean because I want to review Halloween one?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I love Halloween one?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do you want to review with me very famous YouTube
aer Tony for Hackey movies?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I will, but going forward, give me like a call,
let me know ahead of time. But yeah, I will
talk about Halloween. In fact, what the light just went off?
Could Michael Byers be about?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh? I think so. But first I think we have
enough time to talk about this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Oh okay, I actually have the twenty fifth anniversary here
and the brand new as last year's Shout Factory four
K Collectors edition. Why do color actually the original color
correction and the TV version of the film?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
What's the difference the TV?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
The TV version? They cut out a lot of the violence,
oh and whatnot, and they added in new scenes while
they were filming Halloween two to make the movie. I
guess a little bit longer since they were cutting out
a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
The stuff that doesn't sound. I don't I like violence,
especially when this movie starts, and of course spoilers. If
you haven't seen Halloween, I don't know why you haven't.
You should. It's it's requirement. It's a requirement of your life.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
You didn't say to the other day, and you fell
asleep toward the end of it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
And then I skimmed some more, so I made sure
to catch.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Up on I'll just say, you're saying it with so
much authority.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Exactly, But I have the rightful duty too. If I
missed a movie, watch it again.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I guess you're saying you were so much authority,
but you should leave by example. You should have seen
this movie years ago. Yes, anyway, anyway, So it opens
up with the kid it does sister and who's that kid?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Uh he's not my friend.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
No, I'm you're supposed to say, it's Michael Myers.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh no, not Michael Myers. Oh no, he's here. He's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
What was that sound? Is Michael Myer's on a computer?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I know.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I think he's looking up Halloween and he's gonna take
a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
So what else happens in the movie after he kills
his sister and Halloween for no reason?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's unfortunate? Uh, there's this there's a port that like
kind of confused me. Where some person escaped from an
asylum and then stole a car, and I thought that
was Michael Myers. And but is there like another Michael
Myers two point zero?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, that's that's Michael Myers.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
What else would that be?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, so I thought correctly it was Michael Myers. That's good.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
How else do you interpret that scene?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well? I was like, Okay, were.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You confused that he wasn't in the Michael Myers outfit? Yeah,
he hadn't gotten it yet. They don't like you walk
around well in the Rob Zobbie remake they do. Apparently,
they don't let you walk around with monster masks.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Why not, it's supposed to like reflect your identity. Your
identity is your face.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
He has no identity. They purposely say he's been catatonic
and doesn't do anything for fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
That sounds like a waste of life. Of course, I
would be murdering my my sister if I was forced
in an asane asylum and was be like, oh, you
got you can't you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Before they put him in the same asylum after he
murdered his sister.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh, and then he left. Then he left and then
he wanted to murder more people.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
He didn't his doctors trying to stop him. Doctor Loomis,
who's like, hey, this kid's an asshole. Oh yeah, I'm
gonna make sure he's got to take him to the
state and be like, hey, we have to lock him
away forever and never let him out. But Michael gets
out for some reason. The mental patients get out and
he's the one that escaped.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, and he escapes, and then he likes to play
a practical joke of looking at this is good old
pals that he wants to kill, just staring at them
on different days, mind you, with different weathers within the
same scene.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
He really yeah, he really is. He really is into staring.
He loves to stare at people. Yeah. So so he
goes home. Ohkay. And then while he's at home, Laurie
Cheney Lee Curtis, whose mom was in another slasher film,
the Original Psycho.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh my god, so much Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yes, he sees Laurie when she's dropping a key off
at the house and he's like, well, that's my new obsession.
I'm gonna follow her around all day long.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Do you ever do that to people come to your house?
And you're like, I don't know who that is, but
I'm gonna follow them.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Uh. Sometimes I'm like, well, if I want them to
remember who I am, I'm like, okay, buddy, you've come
to my house. No, I'm gonna watch you leave, and
I'm gonna watch your car leave, go down the driveway,
and I'm gonna make sure to get an identical, big
old brain photograph in my memory of what your car

(06:14):
looks like. So every time that I see your car,
I'm like, oh, it's that person. Hey, I remember them
that one time they were at my house. And doesn't
matter that I was mean to you and like yell
at you through many things that you know, I want
to be your friend. I think we're friends in that instance.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So Michael's trying to be Lori's friend.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yes, oh okay, exactly what else would the how else
would you interpret it?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I think he's just trying to relive the whatever set
him off, the excitement he got out of murdering the
cis Like yeah, he's like, oh, this is another young
girl who's babysitting because his older sister was babysitting, and
he's like, I need to kill babysitters and was almost
called The Babysitter Mark originally.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Why was he almost called that? Why didn't he get
that title?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
No? No, I mean the movie was gonna be called
The Baby should have changed it to Halloween. I don't know.
I wasn't there for that. I'm sorry. Yes, HD, So
Michael was following Laurie, the kid that she's babysitting. His
doctor finds out that he killed a mechanic. That's where
he got his overalls. Yeah, yeah, I like that. The

(07:25):
mechanic was director John Carpenter, and I was a cameo
from him.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Oh that's cool. That's fun fact.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That is a very fun fact, Glad, I broke to
your house. And then and then Annie, Laurie's friend Annie, Yeah,
was played by Crystal in her upcoming parody. She She's
all like, hey, it's my dad over there, and the
dad's like, can you believe it? Someone robbed the store
and they took a Halloween mask and a knife in
some rope.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
That seems very specific. Yeah, what could he be using
these items for?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Murder?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I was also thinking murder, because what else? What do
you use it for? Like, oh, no, he's just gonna
tie up his friend. Oh, let's have a practical, fun
joke and also take the knife because I need to
cut a cake because actually, friend, it's your birthday and
I'm also putting this Halloween mask on top of your cake.
But no, it's clearly murdered, or at least that's what

(08:18):
I think. The people who are like, oh, the.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Robs, I mean, those are the only two possibilities exactly,
either murder or whatever the hell he just said.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's a birthday cake.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So so Michael, Yes, he hears that they're gonna be
like across the street from each other. He follows them
in his car. He knows how to drive. No one
knows how he knows how to drive, but he knows
how to drive magical, and then he spends the rest
of the movie he kills them one by one.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's the old spooky manner. It's like, oh, spookiness, what's
gonna happen? Whenever he goes around the quarry, he's like, oh,
there's a bunch of sounds. Is that Michael Myers? Oh?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
But he's very very sneaky period. At a lot of
times you see him in the background, the characters don't
know he's there. He almost blows his cover dog. A
dog barks at him, and.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Then he kills the dog. And it's like the worst
scene ever because I could I can't understand any human murders, okay,
but dog murders. Why you gotta murder the dog.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I don't understand human murder, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean I don't either, but particularly dog murder.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Dogs kind of suck the dog. What is that cough?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
That was Michael Myers?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Michael Myers, he's here. Where are you?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
You're turning off lights, you're playing on the computer, you're coughing,
but I can't see you.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Maybe he's he's somewhere, you know, behind me.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I haven't seen my cat. Usually she alerts me he
probably killed my cat.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Maybe it was the dog that got murdered.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't have a dog. So that's like that was
the second dog. Because that night they go there and
they're like they go to his house, the doctor and
the sheriff and they're like, what's that And he's like,
you ate a dog? Eat? Like, what do you mean
he a raw dog?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
You didn't cook it, you didn't make a hot dog.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No, who is giggling behind the camera, Michael, come down,
wherever you may be.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Michael, please don't murder dogs. Don't. Please. If you're gonna
make eat doggy, at least put it. Cook it, Put
it in between two buns, put a bunch of mayonnaise
and mustard and ketchup on top of it. You eat
it like a like a HOGI but sideways.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
So Michael, he kills her friends and he makes them
into decorations. Yeah. He waits for Laurie Jamie Lee Curtis
to come over and she's like, oh my god, all
my friends are dead and they're decorations.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Honestly, best use of your dead friends is to decorate
the house with them.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So Michael, Michael chases Laurie. She stabs him in the neck,
but he gets back up, and then she pokes him
in the eye. Not a fan, not a fan of
the ipoke unless he die. And then she stabs him
in the chest.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
There's so many stabb rooneys, I know.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
But but then doctor Loomis comes and he's like, that's
my patient. I've been his doctor for fifteen years. I
met him as a boy. I'm gonna just shoot, I'm
gonna unload this guy.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
He was responsible. I understand why He's like this because
it's like, you're you have a duty to protect the
public from an insane person like Michael Myers and the facts.
You gotta like treat them like a like a Raby's dog,
rabbit dog, rabbit dog with foam coming out of their mouth,

(11:51):
and they're just attacking people, infecting everyone with rabies. You
gotta shoot them dead because let me tell you a
fun fact about rabies. Anyone who contracts rabies, luckily, there's
only there's a two to three month window from when
symptoms start. You die. Once you have rabies, you die,
So you gotta basically shoot them. This is very much

(12:14):
similar to Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
So Michael falls off the balcony and then he disappears.
We hear him breathing, and it ends with him at
his house and it's like, oh, well, where what will
happen next in the story? Depending on what sequel you watch,
there's different timelines.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh boy, I'm so excited to cover those both timelines eventually,
I will say.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
In the newest timeline from twenty eighteen and Halloween Kills
and Halloween Kills, they do a little bit of a
flashback round. They show him getting arrested that night.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh hey, that's pretty rad. I like him having a
criminal record.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yes, yes, I love Halloween. It's one of my favorite films.
I saw it as a young boy, a really really
profound effect on me. I've talked about him many times
on my show.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, I liked Halloween time. That's Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Michael Myers. He knew the review was ending and he
drove away.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, exactly. Didn't think it would the proper time to
kill us. I liked Halloween seeing it for the first time,
I thought it was real spooky. I liked the pacing.
I was like, oh, my goodness, what is Michael Miles
going to do?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You're on the edge of Michael Miles. You're on the
edge of your seat the whole time you're watching it,
and your eyes are wide open. When you watch this movie,
you definitely don't fall asleep to this.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Oh yeah, No, I don't fall asleep no way.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Especially when like it's your friend's birthday and they talk
about how much they love this movie and they hype
it up. You definitely don't fall asleep when that happens, right, Yeah,
learn yes, Yes. John Carpenter did the music for this too.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh, hey, that's pretty rad. I also remember a lot
of him doing composing and stuff. A lot when when
I was in band, A lot of talking about John
Carpenter as a composer.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
He does music. He wrote the movie with Deborah Hill,
the producer, the late Deborah Hill.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, it was a low budget movie, very low budget. Yes,
and it was like one of the most successful low
budget movies of all time. And think eventually the Ninja
Turtles beat them out. What the Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's not Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's instead not Michael Myers, it's space Cat.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh my goodness, gracious, space Cat.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
What do you think of Halloween? Okay, anyway, thank.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You for your opinion, space Cat. That was very valuable.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So, yeah, that was Halloween.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
That was Halloween. I liked the cinematography. I liked the
colors who.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did the cinematography, Dean Kundy.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Dean Kundy.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
What what other movie did he do?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Cinemat Gurassic Park?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Jurassic Park and many.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Others, many others.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Jack and Jill. Sorry, Adam Sandler, Oh yeah, not one
of his not one of his highlights.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Hopefully I'll do that sometime.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, this was really great talking about Halloween. With you.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
What score would you give Halloween? I know I would
give it a solid seven point four out.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Of ten, solid point four.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yes, I'm glad you were the.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I failed math. I didn't get my college degree because
I failed math over and over again. So I'm not
one to criticize. All right, Uh whatever the highest rating
is on this show, that is the rating I give Halloween.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Ten point zero.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Ten point zero. Cut damn it. Ten point zero is
what I give Halloween.

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Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's recently reactivated I'm doing a soft launch of it.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
But here go here fansly and only fans at this
slink tree until next time. I'm in salad saw. I'll
see you later in my salad cretons and bacon bits.
And remember, I'm going to break into your house.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
No mention of the YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
He's very famous. Did you know that the YouTube dot
com slash hacked the movies? Ain't at patreon dot com
slash hacked the movie? Got?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
That one is just the free one? You you slept on?
You did the paid one?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I give him money anyway.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Ho yeah ho, that was a good one. That's one
of the best reviews I've ever done. Go down the
list here. But when did you see Halloween Too?

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Actually only a couple of years ago.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
I never really got around to it, which is kind
of funny because the first one is honestly like one
of my favorite films ever, It's probably in my top ten.
I was just like, I'll get around to it, and
then like decades went by, I.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Never watched it.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
It's a couple years ago I watched with my wife
and yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
There you go. When did you first see it?

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I must have been a young and because my mother
probably had this on television like when it used to
when they I remember specifically that there's an Halloween two
like promo TV ad when it like it debuted on television. Yeah,
I don't think I was born yet or I've just
been born, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I don't really know.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
The farthest back I can remember watching it, it was probably.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
High school ish.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I remember I watched a lot of the sequels before
I saw the second one.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Okay, yeah, so Chris Myers, I've seen that before this.
That's a good point because I think I actually saw
h two O before too. That's weird.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I was to say, I really really loved Halloween as
a young kid. Yeah, one of the many movies my
mom introduced me too. Apparently that's weirding people out.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Really, my mother was the vessel for all the horror
stuff for me as well, So it's not.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
So I really loved the Halloween one. I had seen
Halloween six, but that's because it was the new one,
so it like played on cable or something. Yeah, I
didn't know what was going on. I'm like, oh, you know,
it probably makes more sense if I watch the others
spoiler it doesn't anyway. And then I remember me and
my grandfather going to like a rental store and I

(18:57):
saw Halloween two. I'm like, I've never seen Halloween two,
and I want to watch all these sequels now. And
I remember watching it and being like, holy shit, it
picks up right where the other one left off. Now
it's like one really long movie. Yeah, there's this great.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Cut floating around that's like the unabridged Yeah, Halloween kind
of like The Godfather.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, it just keeps going.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And it's seamless. You know, Michael's eye grows back, his mask,
his math Do they explain house mask gets yellow?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
No, it must have been that grass. You know he
rolled over when he got it.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Do you know what the real reason is?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
It wasn't it like under a bed.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Deborah Hill had it in her house and she was
like a smoker, so it got like nuteen stained. That
was what I read. That's what I read.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Imagine smoking in your house.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That was like a thing that do you not remember
the early nineties?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Now, I remember because my old man's just smoking the house.
But like I couldn't imagine even like when I was
a smoker, smoking in the house because the whole fucking
house stinks, right Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, and you don't even notice it after a while. Yeah,
you don't even notice it afterline.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I had an aunt her house. It just they
just read. But anyway, uh yeah, so Halloween too, What
are your thoughts on this film? I remember really loving
this film. I was like, oh man, this is the
best sequel. Picks up where left off, and you got
everyone's back. They're all back. Michael Myers, he's a robot now.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
The beginning of the problems I have with this series.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
By the way, you got a problem with my good
friend Dick Warlock.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Dick Warlock's great in the movie.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
He's not the problem with two for me, just to clarify,
we're not talking about like a D and D character
who's like a minus Manser not.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, you know there was like a meanwhile back like
Penis Wizard Dick Worthy. Oh my god, yes, So basically, Michael,
you know, he got shot by the way six times.
By the way, by the way, I shot him time.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
He says it so many times.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
We kind of screwed up because in the first Halloween
does shoot him six times. I was misremembering the beginning
of this movie where he shoots him seven times. Correct,
But our parody made fun of the other sequels, so
why not? Sure, Yes, it is pretty funny. You hear
the seven shots and now they show like the outside
of Michael falling. Yeah, because I guess they wanted like
a cooler shot. Remember this is now like being funded

(21:08):
by the Universal, so there's money in this. Yeah, it
went Oh.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Halloween, you made a bajillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, they made a lot of money. This one's really real.
It's it looks nicer, it's shot mostly on stages. It
looks cleaner.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
Still still cinematography by Dean Condy.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Still by Dean Carndy.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, that's why, out of all the sequels, this will
always feel the most organic, even if I'm not as
crazy about as.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
I mean, I'll be honest, I don't even know till
you just said that. That shot on stage is like so
Bramo to their effects apartment.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I like Michael falling out of the thing. Like now
there's like supposedly a ramp that he's just walking behind
and falling off. It's like, what was that ramp?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because if you the mechanics of that is if you
fall backwards. It's like that Bernie Lomax thing. Dude, when
the stunt guy when they threw them over the front
of the fence or the where they dump them over
the edge.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
You need to jump over it. If you fall right there,
you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Really hurt, like really, Yeah, it is pretty funny in
the first In the first aween, he's shot and then
he turns around and then the camera cuts suddenly his
back his face again. You could tell he climbed up
onto the thing off it. He's real drama drama queen
that guy. Uh yeah, So it has a really good
opening POV of Michael going around town. We see the

(22:20):
l Rods, which are referenced in the first movie.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
And in twenty eighteen, which we'll get to in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Uh, he scares missus l Rod.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
He's gonna take a bite of that sandwich.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Take a bite of that sandwich.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
You want, mushtarder mayo. Well, by the way, how late
is it I added to the midnight snack? I guess yeah, yeah,
hapween night.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
She's tired of giving out all the candies to make
it a snack for fucking herb or whatever his name is, inside.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, and then Michael, I guess, goes next door and
kills some lady, some teenager.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
She called the cops on him, she did, right then, Right,
he's like a.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Fucking narc He's also got to get his new butcher knife.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's the same. Yeah, yeah, he literally there to get
the night. I don't know why he didn't kill the
old people.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I guess, well, I guess you don't ever see it.
Maybe he did.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I guess, like, well, remember Michael, what his m was
supposed to be is like he likes killing young women
who are alone. He likes stalking and killing young women
or teenagers. He will kill other people when.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Necessary they get in his way.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Like in the first movie, he needed that jumpsuit, so
he killed that older mechanic.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Right, sorry, I gotta do this.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, but now now Michael's mission is I need to
kill Laurie Strode, who is at the hospital. What do
you think of Jamie Lee Curtis in this film, Sean, Like.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
You said, it feels like she doesn't want to be there.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
But with that said, she's still great in it, especially
like the last half hour when she's actually in peril.
It's like, all right, this is what I was waiting
for the whole movie. She's good, she's fine, got her
best performance, but it it's fine.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
The script didn't really give her a lot, no, literally nothing.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
She's in a daze most of the movie.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, they try to give like this little bit of
a romance with the Jimmy guy, a Lance guest, and
a lot of it is cut out. It's in the
TV version, a lot of that is cut out, so
it just feels weird. In the theatrical cut.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
It feels like, I mean, I don't mind it because
they could have known each other from somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
They do know each other previously, they're aware of each other.
But then he's just like, I suddenly love her now.
It's like, okay, buddy, okay, but.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
The horror movie trope. Honestly, we wanted to ask her out,
but I never got the chance. So I guess I'm
gonna do him.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
When she's in the hospital after a murderer just killed
all her friends, while she's.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Traumatized, he found out that the guy that liked her,
Ben Tramer's dead.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
In there.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
He said, they really felt the need to bring back
things you kind of remember from the first one, so
It's like Loomis sees a guy trip Ben Tramer, but
the hair is different. It's like yellow Ben Tramer.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Fucking Ben tramor who is supposed to be shit faced.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
By the by the way, So Ben Dramer is just like,
you know what, I'm gonna wear my mechanic overalls for
Halloween and let me go to the store. Uh oh,
they got this cool white mask. They have the brown
hair one and the guy goes, no, that was stolen early.
I'll settle for the blonde one. And he's like, what
is your costume. He's like, oh, I'm creepy, pale mechanic.
It will be so original and fresh, not knowing that

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Michael Myers also came up with the same costume, right.
It's like when you go to the prom and there's
a lady bear the same dress.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
I know. I figured too. I was thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I was like, besides Tommy Doyle and the little Girl,
nobody knows what Michael Myers.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Looks like, what his get up is. It's just Loomis
and Laurie Themis.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably looks like like told the cops after.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Alask he's in halloweens.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Have you ever seen Star Trek. He looks like the
guy from Star that guy from Twilight Zone. He say
that that has a little different it's a little paler,
but it's there.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
He is, Oh you weren't kidding.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, Willing Shatner, he likes to hang out with him.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
And then the fucking cop was didn't see him, by
the way.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So what was in the van four Dynamite? I don't know.
You see, what we don't know is that there there
were terrorists and had in Fields okay, and they were
getting ready to blow up something and hadden Field and
that was their van.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
That was the van that was going over Doc Brown.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes it was the Lydians.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, yeah, they were. They obtained it and that was happening.
What happened? Yeah, they were like Park Medium exploded.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
You know, they were on their way to Hill Valley.
They're like, let's stop in hadn't feel Illinois also had
to feel Illinois is also in California. Yeah, so they
stopped there and that little did they know a cop
was going to crash into their platonium van.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
That put that seems crazy too, because like I don't
know how deep you want to get into like the
characters in this, but like Loois.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Lewis is a saying he's inane and got the adrenaline rush.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
He got some really great moments in this, but overall
I think they make him a little too crazy compared
to the first one. But it's like he's in the
street with the fucking revolver, like trying to blow this
guy away. He's not even like confirmed not a cople
he's not a cop.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, first of all, I have a Pylmit shriff, And
second of all, he keeps telling. He keeps yelling at
Ben Tramer He's.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Like, stop, stop, turn around, stop.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
And then Ben Traynor just keeps walking away.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You've worn this fucking thing. Yeah, yeah, it's hard to
hear what. He's drunk. He's like, who's that guy yelling
at He's looking around. I'm gonna go across the street.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Was this cop in the car like sucking his own
dick while he was driving? It was like an inner situation.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
He came out of nowhere.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
I didn't see him in a little dude. There was
plenty of time to stop.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
My favorite thing about that is when Ben Tramor's hit
the wide shot, he collapses onto the foot of the
car and then it cuts and he's back up but
hits the van.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
And he's burning alive, and they're like, is that him?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Is that him?

Speaker 5 (28:03):
And I was just like ah, sitting.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
There and they're like, oh man, what's going on? And
then another cop comes like, hey, sheriff, your daughter died
died and they're like, oh, I care way more about that,
and they're like all of them leave. I think all
the cops except for maybe one. But yeah, poor Ben Tramer.
Laurie just wanted to ask him out on ice. I
wanted him to ask her out on the date. He's
getting drunk, being like me and Laurie tomorrow at the

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dance and he.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Had just called him too. You think he went out
his celebratories. I'm shrunk. He's like, I got a date
with Laurie's shot girl with the best hair in the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Imagine if he didn't die and showed up to her
door dressed as fucking Michael Myers.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
And they get shot. No, but like and she like
freaks out and like stabs them or something.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I know, I know you haven't seen kills yet, but
I think it's implied in the New Continuity. She was
one of Laurie's. He was one of Laurie's husbands. She divorced.
I think that's implied.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Let me throw that wrinkle in there right, why not?
George lucash it man, Like this movie does it too?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
I mean, honestly, like a bigger thing that this movie
does a lot is stuff that's like convenient for the plot,
like the Ben Tramer thing, or like when that guy's
walking around with the boom box and Michael's just happens too.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
There was that was that way that was like it scene.
Oh shit, I should have wrote it down. There was
like a thing where like they needed to get Michael
to the hospital and they couldn't figure out how, and
like there was like a different way he got to
the hospital originally.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
I love the way they chose for like the theatrical Yeah,
it's a good see.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think they added that scene afterwards where the kid
bumps into him and it's like, LORI stra by the way,
the quickest news report like ever, dude, just happened like
an hour ago.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
It was like six reporters out there.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Every time you hear somebody talking about the case or
like and then uh, doctor Samuel Luma shot him six times.
Every time you hear it or see it, yeah, six times,
but all.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
The cops are arguing with him. Are you sure you
didn't miss are you sure?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Well? Again? According to the Halloween Kills I said it
Halloween Kills review because in the flashback scene you don't
see any bullet holes. I'm like, I think lumis missed
and Michael to fuck with him, which just react. But yes,
Michael in this he is even more powerful than he
was before. He sure is, and he just needs to
kill Laurie stroke because this is where they introduced that

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she is his sister.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Can we clear this up real quick?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Now you told me because I always thought it was
just from this movie.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
It is just from this movie.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Oh, I thought you told me that They shot extra
inserts for the television version.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
While they were shooting this the first movie. It is
not his sister. I thought the made for TV version
it's like imply that somehow Michael found out he had
his sister because he writes sister on his on his
uh little cell after he leaves, before he leaves. Okay,
but that was added because the TV version they needed

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to add more time because they were cutting out like
some of the kills and whatnot. So the while they
were doing Halloween too, like that's like there's like a
scene where like Laurie and PJ Souls and all are
talking and Laurie's got her head wrapped up like she
came out of a shower. But it's just because they
didn't have the wig, I guess. Yeah, so that's what
it is. That that I said, that's why a lot
of people I think have false memories that she's his

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sister in the first one, because that the TV version
implies it more.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, because I was saying that, yeah, that's totally not
a thing until the second movie.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's not a thing until the second movie, but it
is in this and then like it's a little confused,
like it's real convolution.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
It feels like an insert shot.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, but the way they explained it, I can believe
it better than him like walking around and like those
insert shots with the sister ship.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, yeah that's the I don't like that, where like
it's implied he went to the school, broke into the
school to write Sam Hayne and I know it's actually
pronounced yeah. And then he he drew like a picture
and then stabbed the picture. It's like, why don't you
have time to do that? Did he draw the picture,
grabbed the picture? We're like, why did he have time
to do that?

Speaker 5 (31:56):
The Devil's Night Tony sad hey, and that's what it means.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It means death.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
It is just hilarious to me.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
I guess I'll just say this now because it's my
feeling about the series in general, is that after the
first one, they just said, Okay, have you ever seen
Friday the thirteenth, because now he's Jason. There's fucking Jason
in this movie, and it gets like crazier as the
series goes on.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
How nineteen eighty one, So the first Friday thirteen that
had come out, yeah, I did came out the year before, yes, Yeah,
but there were also other slasher.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Sure that were The Burning comes out in nineteen eighty. Yeah,
I think prom Night might already be out. Yeah, My
Prowler out by then, Prowlers nineteen eighty as well, No.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Eighty two Friday's Afterwards. So there was an emergence of
slasher films right the point. Yeah, and Halloween did really well,
so universal bothers like, yeah, pump out another slasher Baby
get more people to kill, make it even harder to kill.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
What sure, Well, that was the whole thing about the
you know, they're like, oh, we got to bring him back, Well,
how does he come back? It's it's so ambiguous. At
the end of that first movie, you're like, fuck, that
was creepy as hell. It's like on a ship and
we got.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
To explain it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I think it's like they don't explain it.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
He's just kind of oh yeah, because it's kind of
shape and it's like, okay, there is some kind of
supernatural element, even if it doesn't really pan out or
is that.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I think that's what they're going for. So just just
on a side.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
That's why I think the producer's cut of six was
so good because they tie that kind of back this
with the whole soun and the thorn they tried, which was.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I thought, do it and you and you needed a sequel.
That's a way to do it anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
But yeah, So a lot of it takes place in
the hospital, the darkest hospital ever, dude.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's lit so good.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
It's the power gets shut off.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
To be fair, it does.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Well, the phones get cut. I think of the TV version,
they actually show the lights going off, and I think
of the actual cut, they're just just at one point. Yeah, Yeah,
there's some stuff the TV cut had that should have
been in the movie because I was telling him, like, uh,
when Laurie is like catatonic toward the end and like
freaking out, like they cut out a scene where like
she was, I guess one of her dreams was freaking out,
so they gave her more sedatives and that's why she's

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like real spaced out at the end.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Right.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
Well, before you move away from that, I don't want
to forget this about the sister stuff and the dream. Oh,
she has that dream specifically sleep away camp as dream
where she's like visiting Michael as a kid in the
insane asylumon It's just you have to kind of just
pick up on it as a viewer.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
She never really goes into it past that point.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, but I like the mom being like, I'm not
your mom, I'm not your mother. I already told you,
but I view some people. I didn't like that they
might have confused some people. So in the TV version,
they have what sounds like a little boy or a
man pretending to be a little girl going don't kill
me Michael, I'm your sister. They like make sure to

(34:42):
add that in yikes. But yeah, Halloween to here's the thing, like,
it's got kills. It's got some good kills.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
He wasn't supposed to be made.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I do like. I do like Dick Warlock. I
really like Dick Warlock.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
He's the best shape in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
He's just he plays it a little too much like
a robot.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
He's a death and got it tory.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
But it does it doesn't match the previous Michael. Like,
that's my point, unless unless you're like, well, he was
shot and fell out of a he probably broke his
back and that's why he's like, oh my god, everything hurts.
Everything hurts. I will say I met the guy who
played Bud and the nurse Pamela Susan Shoop, and I
got their autograph.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Amazing. Grace comes sit on my face.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yes, it's it's censored in the TV. Really this DVD release,
this Good Times DV release, and I think we have
the good Times tape there Good Times. So that's a
picture of Michael from the first movie, right, and then
in the back we have a picture of Michael's mass
from the sixth movie weird. Uh, like this stupid five.

(35:46):
This is like the worst. It's wide screen, but it's
fake wide screen, so it's like four x three with
the bars. I hate that, which is fine if you're
watching it on a four by three. Yeah, but when
I popped this in a few years ago, I was like,
this looks rough. And that's why I now got the
shout Factory four K released beautiful. Yes, I still enjoy
this movie, but as I got older, I realized, like

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I started falling out of love with a lot of
the sequels. Halloween was my favorite franchise initially, like Horror
franchise was my favorite, and then as I got older,
I'm like, all right, well that one's pretty, but that
one's good, and then I and then I keep going back,
and then even then I get to hollow me too,
and I'm like, that's pretty stupid.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
If you watch, yes, if you watch these in succession,
one right after the other, it's like, well, it's not great.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, And the last time I had watched this, I
did that.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, I went back to it and I watched this
in succession with the films that we're talking about today,
and I'm.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Like, this is pretty good. Well, and that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
When you start to get past like you know, four
or five, six and so on, it's like, Wow, diminishing
returns big time.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
But I like this one.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
It's just I just don't like how it sets up
the character for the rest of the franchise. And then
I guess, I guess people could argue that there's only
one movie where he's kind of human and the rest
he's a superpower.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Well, this one should be fucking dead.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
In this movie, they really like John Carpenter killed him
at the end.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
He Loomis.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, this is before. This was before Mustafa cod did
his rule about how he can't kill Michael, which caused
a lot of degree for Jamie Curtis years later when
she was doing H twelve.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, well there's nine fucking Friday thirteenth movies and they're
making bank.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Maybe they smart thing. They just turned into a fucking
zombie at some point.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, but it allowed for that, Oh yeah, oh yeah,
but yeah, so John Carver just killed him. He's like,
I don't want to do another one of these. He's dead,
Loomis is dead, Michael's dead. Now it's a little confused,
And I've always been confused by the ending of this film.
So they they blow up that room full of gas,
and then like I know, Loomis is dead. He got

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sad and he blew up and Michael blew up. But
then it just cuts to like a completely different character
in a fire suit coming out of that room. Now,
was he in that room in the fire resistance suit?

Speaker 5 (37:51):
He could have been. He slipped it on right before
Loomis lit.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
That uh, Like, yeah, he must have been hiding from
Michael Myers. Yes, and like just hiding him. He's like,
oh no, they're gonna they're gonna blow up the room.
Let me put my fire resistant suit on.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
And he grabbed his mask and threw it on his
head before he actually the fire head. Yeah, I don't
have a He had a bodysuit, but no protection for
his head.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, put it on. That's what got him in the end,
because he was definitely wearing a very thick fire resistant
suit that looks nothing like Michael Myers.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Ben Tramer should have got one of those.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, And he tries to make his way down the
hallway and he collapses. Now what he should have done
is he could have just burst through the wall to
the left because when you look after the explosion, the
whole wall moves a little bit, and then you see
pieces of board propping up the other wall as if
it were a set, and the camera caught the set
moving after the explosion, revealing a set. But maybe that's

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just where the hospital is. Could be so very very confusing.
Michael Loomis died, they cut to that weird third guy
in the fire suit falling over. It's very bizarre, and
then Dana Carvey shows.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Upright real quick. I love when Loomis turns Australian for
about two.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Seconds exactly and he's like, yeah, god, yeah, you know
what he should have done? Other guy in the fire
suit should have found that like therapeutic bathtub.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Fucking early got Penelopean Miller in the relic.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
How does how does Parmelu Susan Shoot's poor face get
all melted? And the Michael's hands fine, I.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Was thinking the exact same thing, but they should be
burnt to a fucking crisp. Yes, oh wait, are you
talking about the scolding water? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
You know you're right about the bone. If we factor
in Halloween four, you're right about the second thing or
halloweeny show where he has no birds whatsoever?

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Was it four or five when they drop the dynamite
on him in the well and he somehow.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Works no fours where they shoot him, and then when
they did five, they added the scene of them throwing right,
and yeah, what is it? What is it with these
movies adding something to the previous recap?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Well, that's not like, especially if you're making the sequel
where it's not supposed to be dead.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, yeah, uh see Halloween two. It's decent but unnecessary.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
You could tell they weren't really into it, especially John Carpenter.
I do love the music.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Music music. It's like a beefed up version of the first.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, I love this super synth version of the score.
It starts off pretty well, all right all over, It
starts off pretty well with you don't know what death is.
It's got some moments in it, and they they have
kept some ideas from this for later movies, even the
most recent ones. Yeah, the Halloween Kills. They use the
Hat and Field Memorial hospital logo from this.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Movie, which is cool and like, there's a lot of
shots from this that are indicative of the twenty eighteen
one yeah, oh yeah, and then he comes back.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Well also because Bracket comes back and the Halloween kills,
and they they showed the flashback of him finding his daughter,
and even though it's not incontinuity, like they could still
use that footage. He's like, well, we have this footage
of Bracket and his daughter. Yeah, like it doesn't have
like he technically would have seen his daughter. So I
like too, yeah, except for like, I love Nancy keys right,

(40:58):
that's her name, Nancy keys Be Nancy Loomis, I think,
And I think she does flick her eyes a little
bit in that scene, but those could be post death
nerves or whatever.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
The twitch, the death, the death gasms see us.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Halloween two led to a BIG's that's what made Halloween
a franchise. Halloween three derailed that a little bit, and
they brought it back. Would you like to read the
back of I.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Would actually h This smart and suspenseful thriller scares up
a bone chilling good time with the original scream Queen
Jamie Lee Curtis, True Lies Halloween one and two, and
a hot cast of hip young stars exclamation point Now
the head and mistress of a private school, Lorie Strode
Curtis is still struggling with the horrifying twenty year memories

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of the.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Maniacal Killer.

Speaker 8 (41:53):
You maniacal, I don't think I've ever read the word maniacal.
You're just like, see you words and You're like, I
don't think I've ever seen that word. Spells help before.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
No, I read a lot.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Okay, I read a lot, but I think I read
it like I know what it is, but I don't
know how to say it. Like, Okay, my brain maniacal
killer Michael Myers when he suddenly reappears with vengeance exclamation point,
and this Halloween, his terror will strike a whole new generation.
Laurie's rebellious son Josh Hartnett, the faculty, his girlfriend Michelle Williams,

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j Yeah, whew and BPS will become Michael's newest victims.
Unless Laurie can conquer her greatest fears and put evil
in his place for once and for all, the time
has come once again, for you would experience the frightening

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fun of Halloween, the motion picture series that will totally
redefined terror. Jimmy Lee Curtis sexy, smart, and stunning Los
Angeles times.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Ooh so yes, Halloween h shure. Now this is a
big deal when it came out because again, twentieth anniversary,
Jamie Lee Curtis is back. Baby. This is in the
post Scream era. I think Kevin Williamson worked on this.
He worked on the story, but he didn't write the script.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
But you do see Scream in it.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
You do see Scream two. I love I love that
fun fact. Oh last year I did a video breaking
down the TV cut of this movie, which is a disaster.
But in that review I mentioned that I also watched
the work print, which wasn't very different. There were only
a few changes in the work print version. One of
them was, instead of Scream two, they're watching so I

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married an axe murderer starring Mike mot Oh.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
Fuck, I love that. That is a good movie.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I like that movie.

Speaker 8 (43:49):
I like gosh, I mean shit, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
But here, I'm glad you mentioned Scream two because I
brought this up a couple of times. Okay, there's now
a horrifying continuity era that breaks this universe. Oh no,
because in Scream one they're watching Halloween, but then in
Halloween h show. They're watching Scream two. So what universe
is the canonical prime universe? It's just the reality would

(44:13):
like warp in on itself. How can they both be
fictional movies in each other's universe? It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Multiverse, it's the multiverse of horror?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Holy shit?

Speaker 8 (44:21):
Can we create a multiverse of horror?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think Halloween has already done it because there's five
goddamn timeline.

Speaker 8 (44:27):
With all the killers. Like, yes, I know there's Jason,
like Freddy versus Jason, but.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Like and if you watch my Freddy's Dead episode, I
talked about how that's also a multiverse because the TV
show is in its own continuities.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
Yes, and I know we did what is it?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Whoo? What is it called?

Speaker 8 (44:45):
Cabin?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
The Cabin in the Woods?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
It's not really a multiverse thing, no, but it.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
Does take if like all the characters were in I mean,
I know a lot of people hate that film, but
I love seeing the cubes and all the Why don't
people hate that film?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
We'll talk about that another time.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
I love to talk about that movie. I would love
to see, like how we're doing with all the Marvel
and DC shit.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, let's do a hard do a multiverse horror. Yeah,
so Halloween Show, now this is the second one put
out by Dimension Pictures. You know, our good friends, the Blinstein's. Uh,
they weren't really thrilled with how Halloween six turned out,
So I think that's why they kind of threw caution
to the wind. They got Jamie Curtis back, but she regrets,

(45:28):
she regrets not being a producer on it. Also, she
thought John she thought John Carpenter was coming back and
he wasn't. Actually the director of this, funny enough, was
Steve Miner, who did I believe Friday thirteenth Part two
and worked on a couple of those films. Yeah, she

(45:50):
wanted to come back. She wanted to make sure she
actually killed him, and they kind of like screwed her over.
They kept saying like, oh yeah, yeah, and she kept
there's a great interview with her being like and then
I kept reading the fan goes off the cliff and
there's a fire, and then an end she's like, when
am I going to kill and and they had to
make a whole compromise, which I talked about in Halloween
Resurrection when I review that movie Dumpster. But yeah, I

(46:14):
kind of liked this film. Yeah, what do you mean,
kind Really, I've grown to like it less over the years. Really.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I think it's just because I over the years, I
love Halloween more and more and more, and then I
kind of get annoyed with Halloween two with the whole
sister thing, So this following up on that kind of taints.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
It for me.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
So you don't like the universe of this is what
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
No, but I like the idea of like a survivor
coming back, which again I talked about it last year.
I liked the twenty eighteen kind of did this idea
but for me better for me personally. Uh, but no,
this is cool to see at the time, and I
remember my cousin got to see it before me, okay,
and I made when she came home. I made sure
she told me everything that happened in the movie because
I couldn't wait and got by the time I bought

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it on VAH or randed it on VHS.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But yeah, So in this universe, Michael's been Michael's disappeared,
so he also survived the explosion in this universe and
has no burns.

Speaker 8 (47:16):
Yeah, he's not dead.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
No, No, he has no burns. But also, doctor Loomis
survived the explosion in this universe and he has died
recently because he died in real life. So I think
early scripts for this did include four five and six
as cannon, but they didn't dwell on the events you

(47:38):
think so. So I think that's why Loomis being alive
even though he clearly died in the explosion. I feel
like that was left over from previous versions of the script. Also,
your earrings are screwed up? Can you now the other ones? Okay,
the white sides were showing, So I think little things
were left over from that, because it's like, why have
Loomis be alive? Like, it doesn't make any sense. It's like, oh,

(48:01):
he died right before the movie started. It's like really,
because if I'm watching this right after two, I feel
like he died in that big fucking explosion.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
But you think it has a little bit of four
five and six.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I don't think it has. The version we're watching has none,
but I think it was written originally to have a
little bit of that in there. Now I'm gonna take
a little break here later this week, and I'm saying
it so I have to do it. I will be
reviewing a comic book I found that is a sequel
to H two O, but it actually connects H two

(48:34):
O T Part four, five and six. It combines those universes.
I found this comic. It's got a hell of an ending,
and I will be reviewing that later this week.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
Is H two O? How is it before four?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
No, HO is its own thing. But there was a
comic that tried to justify to make a part of
the universe. But we're not counting that as a tenuous Yeah,
the guy who wrote Halloween six wrote a comic to
try to combine it with Ah Shoe. But the film
itself is a part three.

Speaker 8 (49:07):
Wait do they say how old? Because I want to
guess how he did this? Is it the How old
is Daniel Harris's character? Do they say? Or at least
what greade she's in in four?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
She's supposed to be I think she was like twelve
or thirteen, but I think she's playing eight or nine.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
That's what I'm curious if that's eight or nine and
that's supposed to be ten years. Yeah, so she had
her kid two years after all of that. Yeah, this
is twenty She had a kid.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Then I guess she kept her son and ditched the daughter.

Speaker 8 (49:46):
That is the only thing I can think.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 8 (49:50):
No, no, no, no, trying to be like, oh okay,
maybe then she had another but he's seventeen. This is
twenty years so that's.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It doesn't make sense. Look, I will read the comic
and I will do a nice breakdown of it and
talk about how they try to connect these units.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
Say maybe she's just trying to like protect her daughter
and say like, oh no, I die almost like a
who did that? Which horror film did that where they
said one no, where they said, oh, I'm going to
pretend like you I never existed to save you.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I don't even know, or maybe it's not a harmony's
I think that was in a Harry Potter to be honest,
there was a Harry Potter.

Speaker 8 (50:29):
Movie of where the mother is like, oh, I I
said I was dead for all this time to protect you.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I don't know. It could be any more, and then.

Speaker 8 (50:41):
They went off it literally could be anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Okay, back to age twelve, Oh yeah, Halloween. Yeah, so
Michael has survived. He is uh killing Nurse Marion, who
has who's still around from the first two films.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Joseph Gordon Levitt, my co star from The Dark Knight Rises,
plays a young kid in this he gets sliced up.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
They have on the porch I think. I think the
previous film because it was Dimension Pictures which owned Hell
Raiser at the time, they put a bunch of nails
inside of a pumpkin to be like Pinhead. But in
this one, one of the decorations is the Chatterer demon
from hell Raiser. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So Michael basically breaks
in there, kills those kids, kills Marian to get information

(51:27):
on where Laurie is because I guess doctor Loomis had
information on where he knew that Laurie was a head
mistress at a school under a different name.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
Yeah, that's very confusing.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Why then she faked her death? Yeah? Why why would
he know that? Why would he care? It'd be better
if he didn't know where she was and had no
record of it.

Speaker 8 (51:50):
I'm me because he's just so obsessed with this case,
so he feels as if he needs to know everything.
But I feel like Lauria at this point, Yes, she
keeps releaving these memory is over and over but for
her to try and to escape, was.

Speaker 9 (52:04):
It in California, Yeah, she's in California.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
For her to go, well, like so far away?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I don't know, so far away from in the first
movie was Illinois. I do like the music in this,
but it's it's a mixture of two people's scores, John
Otman's score, and they decided they didn't want to use
a lot of it, so they mix it with Marco
Beltromi and I think some scream music is in this.
John Otman eventually released his full album, which you can

(52:33):
get on Amazon Music. I listened to it, so he
gets to hear his version of the score. I like
the beginning, though the opening credits. I do think they
misspelled Donald Pleasant's name if I remember right. That's a
little rough. But they do the whole credits, but they
show like Michael's still been killing for twenty years. They
show like all these dead bodies and shit, like he's
still around. And then they had a voice actor do
Donald Pleasant's voice.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
A six year old child.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Like face, so that was really cool. Then we meet
Laurie Strode who is now Carrie Tait, and I like
they gave her the scar and everything and she's now
an alcoholic because she suffered from and a lot of
these ideas get reused later in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 8 (53:14):
But you do, like, I you can understand though, why
she is an alcoholic and how she does have the
horrific because I'm also reading right now The Survival of
the Final Girl's Survival.

Speaker 10 (53:24):
Group words Final Girl's, Final Girl Support, Yeah, support, and
I just in my head, I'm like, wow, like rewatching these,
I'm like, the characters in this book really are so
relatable and to understand, you watch Jamie Lee Curtis, her
character Lorie Strode, just having to relive.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
This for twenty years, and you're like, shit, like it
happened it was for this in this contint it happened
in what would you say, twenty four Yeah, it was
like two days. Yeah, I'll say forty eight hours, yees.
And this forty eight hours affects her to the date
sheet up.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Ye speaking of a scream queen, did you like that
the one old lady works for her is her real
life mom, Janetly When they're leaving the yeah, it was
not about that, And then she even gets into a
car and they play a little bit of the Psycho theme.

(54:20):
Uh is that?

Speaker 11 (54:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Holy Crystal Crystal. Where could we learn more about Psycho?

Speaker 8 (54:28):
Ooh ooh Patreon.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Well, yeah, that's where we did the commentary track for
the remake. But we reviewed the original Psycho on this channel. Yeah,
check that out.

Speaker 8 (54:38):
Channel and Patreon. Yeah, so we just keep thinking of
our freaking commentary of the the remake.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, which you did not like. She had never watched.
She went in blind to the Psycho remake, not enjoy
it angry. So yeah, this is obviously nineteen ninety seven.
I think. So you got our hot young teens ut
Michelle Williams Josh Hartnett. The hot goth girl was really cute.
She should have been more big things. She's in a

(55:06):
lot of things, but I liked her. Although the guy
she's dating has the biggest nose in the world. I
noticed that. But yeah, everyone is going on a trip yep,
and poor John John, like John Carpenter, he's not allowed
to go because his mom is overprotective, but then she
lets him go, but it turns out he wants to

(55:27):
stay home and party with his friend, so he's actually
gonna play hooky.

Speaker 8 (55:31):
And stay at the school because he's also like he's
never really got to celebrate Halloween. Yeah, so for this
one Halloween that affected Laurie so much, she just constantly
keeps thinking it's gonna happen again on Halloween. Why does
she think that?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Though? And then like they do I know that it
is funny that he brings up He's like, you said
you watched him Burnham. She's like, I didn't stay to
see his ashes, And it's like, did no one stay
to see his ashes? Because like someone like there would
be a body.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
Yeah, it would be really it takes some time, the teeth, yeah, something.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah. And also since Donald and actually she should be like, well,
the fucking doctor lived and he was right a ground
point break or ground zero where the explosion was, so
forgive me. I think Michael actually made it. And he's like, well,
didn't you see him burn And she said she should
say no, I saw a guy who happened to be
wearing a fire suit walk out of the same room.

(56:30):
I don't know what he was doing there. What is
what is more disappointing in this film Michael Myer's mask
or Josh hart It's hair. And now keep in mind
there are four masks in this film. I did a
video breaking that down too. It did a little short.
So the movie starts, if you don't remember, the movie

(56:52):
starts with the Halloween six mask. Yes, they probably just
should have used.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Then they switched to they did a K and B
mask which is actually in the background here, which is
like pure white. Yes, K and B did that. That's
actually the one you see in like a lot of
the trailers and stuff. And then they did I think
the Stan Winston mask, which is the prime mask they
use for the whole film, for all the close ups
and whatnot. It is actually funny when Josh Hartnett is
like behind the gate and Michaelson. All the light shots

(57:20):
it's the K and B mask, and then the close
ups it's the newer one. And then did you notice
the CGI mask. So when the big nose guy, after
that really drawn out scene where you think he's gonna
like get his hand chopped up in the garbage, he
bumps into Michael and the CGI the Stan Winston mask
onto the K and B mask, and it looks terrible.

(57:43):
I was, and it looks even worse when you watch
it in four K.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
I was wondering what fell off about that? Yeah, where
He's like, yeah, it looks so really odd and I
couldn't tell why.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
That was. One of the problems with this film is like,
you gotta figure out the mask before you go into this.

Speaker 8 (58:01):
This is like an important you not like the whole
thing is based off that Matt like and the fact
that there's four masks makes it really distracted. Listen, yeah,
did you come costume changes so people didn't know.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I do think they show his eyes too much too.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
I think they almost do that on purpose to show Well, no,
he's always doing this, Is it the same, We'll get
to it.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Oh yeah, wait, how does he even have eyes? This
is a question for the other films he was shot
in the Eyes and part two? How does he have
eyes there?

Speaker 8 (58:34):
And there's so there's a lot of questions. Yes, we'll
get there. So I didn't have all these questions while
watching it, but now I do. Thank you so much, Tonny.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Well, it's actually an entertaining film.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
I really do like this.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I like her stuff with her boyfriend, Jamie's boyfriend. I
like her secret alcoholism, and I like that it builds
up to this final battle between her and Michael where
she gets to just let loose and beat the shit
out of him.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
That is what I wanted Halloween Ends to be. Yeah,
this is exactly the whole I would say, A good chunk.
What would you say? Would you say like the last
third of the movie is much yea, that is what
I wanted Halloween ends.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Would you like his one armed When I did the
work print of Hollywood Resurrections, I realized that wasn't in there.
So I think, I think if I remember writing, someone
was like that, you gotta put the one armed thing
in there. That's cool as ship. Uh yeah, that final
battle is really cool. It's real. The whole thing of
it's just I lovel cool j subplot his subplot. Uh,

(59:40):
he's trying to write a romantic, uh romantic novel and
he's constantly calling his girlfriend. She's giving him notes and
the whole movie you think he's gonna get killed. Then
he gets shot on accident.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
Which is interesting because he was out, like he was
out out and like, yeah ashore at the grazed the
bullet cau fun fact.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
The TV cut of this, Yeah he's dead. Really, they
don't ever show him alive if I remember right, So,
but that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
Is I wait, yeah, but he scrabs her at the
It's not like he just randomly shows back up. He
helps her get out of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I think he's dead in that version. I have to
watch Yeah, then how did she That's a good point.
I have to watch my video again to see if
I'm wrong. Anyway, I like Ello cool Jay in this.
I mean he was kind of thrown in there because
you got to throw a musician in these.

Speaker 8 (01:00:29):
They did this as like it's a comedy relief.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
They were doing that a lot because it was got
the sequel to Uh, I know he did last summer.
I think put Brandy in there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
They were doing that for a while. They eventually threw
a Destiny's Child into a slasher film.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Yep, yep, yeah, but yeah, this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Film is very nineties.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
It's extremely nicety.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
It's very nineties. But I think it's pretty well made.
I mean it still has all the issues I have
with the other films, like like, oh, look, I could
buy that he's just a tough guy in the first one,
but after a while, like how he so unvulnerable to everything?
How did you survive the fire?

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
Like if you listen to the loomis, Like I'm sure
in the other ones that don't exist in this way.
On the fourth like, he's not human, he's not human,
he's not human.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 8 (01:01:12):
And I guess if you're kind of already that is
in your head, you're kind of already thinking that he's
not human.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I guess.

Speaker 8 (01:01:18):
So that's the only thing I can justify, even.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Though aspect later it's got some decent kills. That girl
getting her leg cracked, Oh god, that like that hurgs
to watch he slices her up.

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
I love the kills in this, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
The girl's the nurse's deck as she's screaming, the blood
pours out. I like poor Joseph Gordon Levic. It's escaped
through the head. You don't see you see the aftermath
of it, you do.

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
I think the kills in this are absolutely fantastic. The
suspense between Laurie and Michael, I think is exactly what
is needed. The long fight scene. Yeah, and then this
is what should have the last trilogy that has been out.
She'll have been why they didn't take.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Note on this. I don't think we get to that
in a second. But like I do, like where you
think the movie is gonna end. Yeah, this is how
it always ended. I do like that. Laurie's like, no,
I gotta make sure I drive him out, like I
have to make.

Speaker 8 (01:02:16):
Sure that the other cops though, had guns.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, that was the funny thing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
But I think at that point they're just like I
think it was the only way I can justify that
is that they are so shocked, and she's like taking
a van, like, holy funk, where the hell did she
get this guy? Like what does she doing? She just
went through all this trauma. Okay, we're just gonna let
this happen. Because you don't see cops chasing her heels.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
No, Yeah, that's another thing. They would have chased her.
They're like, hey, can we at least escort you? Like,
but I think, you know, in case you fall off
of goddamn hill. I mean you do hear them at
the end, so they weren't too far behind, it were
and she was like Michael core drive in.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Yeah, and I think maybe like they were in shock, yea,
like what the I mean, I'm pretty sure anyone else
would be like the.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Fuck just happened? So yeah, it's cool to see her
come back, and you do get a satisfying fight, and
then you get that wonderful finale where the fucking van
pins Michael Myers and you're like, oh, is she gonna
give in? Even though that be stupid, And she fucking
slices that shit off, and I love the sound effect
from the first one. The theme kicks in and then

(01:03:25):
she's breathing and it's really really good. The fun fact
the beginning of Resurrection was already planned when they did this.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
She in her interview. She wanted to chop his head off.
She really wanted to try and and kill him, and
then eventually they had the cave and they were like, hey,
Mustafa cod will not let him die. So she came
up with this compromise. She's like, at least make it
seem like I killed him in this one. But if

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there is a sequel, it's revealed that he switched bodies,
and then I have to die and then I'm done.
She said, I'm doing one more and then I'm done
and I'm never coming back to Halloween lies.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
So I do want to know, though, are those different.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Eyes in the mask now it's the same stunt man?

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
I wish because that's what I was curious, because, like
you said, they show the eyes a lot, and I'm like, no,
they look like this, because in that scene you really
see the eyes, so I know that's almost like the point.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, and he looks like he's evil.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
He's like yeah, like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
There were some versions of the script or he was
going to talk, Oh thank god I didn't do he
was gonna say, Laurie. I think I read one where
he like he gets impaled in the heart. And there's
another one I think that the helicopter cut him in half.
And I guess they were like, well, they're like, well,
that's all that. The budget's getting a little high. Let's
let's low that up. Lower that, but at least.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
Change the eyes or something and make it. Because there's
there's so many horror films where that actually happens, where
you think that's the killer but they actually switch bodies. Yeah,
there's a few of those.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But you can also Valentine Valentine, where you can see like.

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
Like you can see the action of the person in
the costume.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Is a little different.

Speaker 8 (01:05:08):
This isn't me like you can see something off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But well, of course in this one they wanted you
to think it was Michael Myers. The scene I bet
you they were hoping, like, please don't make a sequel
to this, Please don't make it, And then they did.

Speaker 8 (01:05:19):
But if you already had resurrection in your brain, you
would think you would change the like, give me now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I think it was more important that they made this
feel self contained. They were not too worried about the sequel.
They they came up with that compromise. But I don't
think they were really banking on it happening. But yeah,
it's just it's a feel good, fun action film. It's
fun to watch one, two, and then this. This is
way better than two. It's way more entertaining than two.

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
Two is born, Two is born. I do you think
four is even more boring?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
To me? M M.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Four is better. Lead character, Jamie is is kind of
in a coma for most of the two, so here
she gets to do stuff. And yeah, and like I said, uh,
the seeds in this were played in it for Halloween
twenty eighteen, where they revisit a lot of these ideas,
and like I said, I think they did twenty eighteen.
I like more than this. I feel like it does
this idea much better. It gets rid of the brothers

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sister thing, and they have an awesome fight in that
one I do that ends with her killing him. The
problem is they made sequels, which we're about to talk about.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I really I don't remember what I said about the
twenty eighteen one, but I don't hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I like it. I like It's my favorite of
the sequels now really yeah, my accounts of separating part three.
But no, this one's a good time. This one is
a good time. It's pretty stupid. Again, just stick with
the original. But if you're gonna go, if you if
they're out of all the Halloween continuities, this is one
of the better ones that you can end here and well,

(01:06:51):
I obviously it gets even better with Resurrection, because I
I love resurrections. As we all know, I'm the number
one restrd here and I love Halloween Resurrection. I was
afraid to say that a year ago, and I don't
fucking care. Yeah, uh so Halloween h trolle solid. People
always say, oh, it was that one good one was

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that way? Remember that one good one? Yes, the one
where Jamie came back, that one good one. Yeah, And
then they did Resurrection that goes away. They do the
remakes those go away, Yes, they bring Jamie back for
twenty eighteen, talked about that next year, and then they
made a sequel, Tim can you read the back of

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the box? I assume it'll be shorter. Here we go.

Speaker 11 (01:07:37):
The reality Programmer is a Danger. Tainment have selected Rudy,
who is Sean Patrick Thomas from Dracula two thousand, Bill Thomas,
Ian Nicholas from American Pie, and a group of thrill
seeking teenagers to spend one fun filled night in the
childhood home of serial killer Michael Myers.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
But they plan the planned.

Speaker 11 (01:07:59):
Live broad turns and turns deadly when their evening of
excitement becomes a night of horror as Michael Myers himself
decides to crash the party.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
WHOA They don't mention Jamie Lee Curtis at all in
the back the uh.

Speaker 11 (01:08:14):
Just at the at the very end, along with a
special appearance of Jamie Lee Curtis afterthought as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Hell and Michael. I did a full detailed review of
this with movie Dumpster a few years back. I love
this movie. I'm very nostalgic for this film. It's the
first one I saw in theaters. As we all know,
I'm the number one res hard. I love it. I
got my I got my tricker treat motherfucker. Sure, yes,
but this is like nostalgic for me because this is

(01:08:45):
when I got When I was using the internet, I
was following the production of this.

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
You were into this Halloween films dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Yes, Yes, I spent a lot of time on that
bloody disgusting forums back when they had forums. Thank god,
those things got deleted. Who knows what that was a
mess thing in there. Yeah, And I was following when
it was Halloween Homecoming. Yeah, yeah, which makes which makes
it makes more sense of a title for this. And

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before I go any further, there were a lot of
deleted scenes. I'm only gonna mention like one, there's a
lot of deleted scenes and altern nandings for this because
they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. I
covered that a few years back. I did the breakdown
of the work both work prints of this film, and
I go all into the deleted scenes. Yeah, because there's
there were very different killed They actually spiced up the
kills in the theatrical version because the kills were a

(01:09:35):
little too tame in the other one. Okay, but yeah,
Halloween Resurrection, I love it. It's so stupid all right,
what do you guys think of like the beginning is
like its own movie with Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, how
did you feel about the fake out with like it
was a paramedic?

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (01:09:50):
Total, total ass. I think that was just not that great.
I think it is extremely far fetched. She goes down
way too eat easily on the rooftop of my opinion.
And yeah, I mean there's some good things about this movie.
I think buster rhymes rules, but as far but as
far as like how the movie starts, I don't know. Man,

(01:10:12):
you were you were, you were buying that even back
in the day, you were cool with it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah, I kind of assumed that she wasn't gonna be
in the whole movie. Well, I remember originally I was like, oh,
she'll probably like come back to save the kids at
the end.

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
Oh, that would have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
But then I realized, like she wasn't doing any press
for the movie, and like, never mind, she's not doing
shit at the end.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
And she got the you know, she got her kissing
and in hell Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Mean fucking Michael Michael Crowley own kissed Fredo before he
had him killed. And there were brothers. Casey as someone
who has played Bory Strode. What did you think of
Stroke's final encounter?

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
I like her Vinyl encounter.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
What do you think about the fake out?

Speaker 9 (01:10:53):
I thought the kiss was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah, what do you think about the fake out of
the h Uo where it wasn't really him at the end?

Speaker 9 (01:10:58):
I think that got me at the time when I
didn't know did get me?

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
Yeah, you didn't think this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
This final fight on the rooftop was good with her,
with her Looney Tunes U fucking uh Elmer Fudd trap.

Speaker 9 (01:11:12):
Yeah, how did she have time to do that?

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
It was Yeah, there was a lot of holes in
her plan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Yeah, but you know who I do love?

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
Tell me the creepy uh.

Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
I'm gonna say I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Like that, the creepy mental asylum guy who I have
the mask of there, so it's so cool. Speaking of nostalgia,
so that is the Halloween Resurrection mask based off the mold.
I got that in two thousand and two from Cinema Secrets.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I got my parents to get it to me because
I was super into it. I like the resurrection masks,
all right. People don't like the Resurrection mass. They think
his eyebrows are too dark. It's the brows.

Speaker 9 (01:11:45):
I really like this, Michael. I don't understand why he
colored his around his eyes, you know, around It's like
he's a character at all. They put black around his
eyes to cover up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah, maybe criticism. Well look, look, well one it could
be criticism from Halloween H two because they showed his
eyes a little too much, uh to look. At least
they picked a mask and stuck with it, unlike H
two where his mask literally changes between camera comes true
and g I at one point. So at least they
did that. Yeah, he's he looks like a little done up.

(01:12:22):
He's got his eyes.

Speaker 9 (01:12:23):
He didn't take the time to well, it is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
He's doing the black makeups. That's like what superheroes are.
Like Batman doesn't make up. Look, you know, Batty Begins
came out two years later. Maybe he was auditioning when
he wasn't killing people.

Speaker 9 (01:12:38):
I think you're taking the beginning. He just comes through
the door.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Oh yeah, that was weird. He doesn't too where he
just walks through the classroom pull ups. M I think
they add if I remember my work print, Because when
he kills those guys in the beginning, it wasn't as
gory as it like he doesn't decapitate them or anything.
I think they added the shot of the one arm
thing because it was used in all the trailers for so, yeah,

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that's my original one. But a few years back, when
I was still that Screenwave, we bought a bunch of
props and someone like I think Justin showed me that
clown mask and I'm looking at it and I'm like,
I know that mask from something. I know that mask.
What is that mask from? And I'm like Google, and
I sent it to my friend Anthony. He's like, that's
a hollow Resurrection, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I'm like, oh my god, I got the crazy guy's
clown masks from Hollowing Resurrection.

Speaker 11 (01:13:24):
I did dig the Crazy Guy to sprinting off the
fact it's a good right into the title, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
But yeah, it's weird that none of this plays in
with the rest of the movie. I think. I think
movie Dumpster told me that it's implied that there's like
a year long jump in between like this opening and
then the rest of the film.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
I can't remember if there were words.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
All I know is if you do watch my workprint cut,
they explained how Michael gets that cool sports car. Oh yeah,
you want to know how he gets his cool red
sports Guys. A girl is having relations with a man
in the woods near the mental asylum. Okay, that's where
you do that, and Michael decides not to kill them,
and he steals the car, and then she reveals that
the guy she's with us not her boyfriend, but Michael

(01:14:06):
stole her boyfriend's car, that she was stealing the cheat
on her boyfriend. Great, uh, because that is like a
weird element in this film. They constantly show the sports car. Yeah,
and it's just like, I get that's Michael's car. Why
is it? So like, where did he get this? It's like, oh,
that's like a leftover thing. Okay, so yeah, then we
get a fun set up here because it's like, all right, well,
Michael's run out of family members except for Josh Hartnett,

(01:14:28):
but they weren't getting him back. No, they have a
picture of him.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
And Jamie Hills, especially not with those bangs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Josh Hartnett from Trap.

Speaker 9 (01:14:39):
Haven't seen it. We were going to see it, my
sister and me, and then it's not in theater, so
it was in for like a week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I rented it with my sister. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:47):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:49):
Yeah, speaking of my sister, she asked me to be
her maid of honor.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I saw, I saw the instagrams were like while watching
Halloween Resurrection.

Speaker 9 (01:14:59):
Yeah, good memories.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I'm just picturing you watching like that's how Jamie Curtis. I, oh,
that's so stupid. Yeah, social again, it's a very special
movie to all of us. Yeah yeah, so yeah, the
whole Jami Lee Curtis thing, they just did that so
they could have her in the teaser. Nothing to do
with the rest of them. I do love to set

(01:15:23):
up that they're filming a reality TV show. It is
just so of the time, dude, it isn't, but also
kind of like because it's on the internet. Uh, and
like everyone knows that what's got? Last year, I got
real into that live Yes show, Fish Tag Fish Tag Live.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I had the winner.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
I had the winner of season one on my show
afterwards because I was a meme because I bought her
shirt when I was still fatter than I am now
and a bunch of guys who were also heavy set
took pictures. Everyone. Josie will probably like delete the internet
because all these fucking weirdos.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Like her, Like she actually came up by show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
But yeah, this is actually is funny. I'm watch a fishtag.
I'm like, wow, Hollow Resurrection predicted it. This is this
is deep for you man, it is it is And
uh yeah Buster rhymes. That's because around this time they're like,
we have to have one rap guy. Last time it
was all cool j. Now we gotta get Buster rides
and Tyra Banksy.

Speaker 9 (01:16:17):
That's what sold me the first when I first saw.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yes the reality show. And then they have the main girl,
Bianca played by Bianca something I forget her full name.
Uh and Katie sack Off a very early Katie sack
Off who ended up is that the blonde?

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
Yes, I love her. She has a YouTube channel. By
the way, she does a reaction video of the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
It's so good. Yeah, really liked her reaction video wat.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Yeah, damn, I gotta watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
It is It is refreshed. The actress Tina from Halloween
five needs to do. Is It's refreshing when the worst
character in a film will admit it and go through
their performance.

Speaker 9 (01:16:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I did like where she said that wasn't my bro
that they showed that was like a body.

Speaker 9 (01:16:58):
Yeah, and she did most of the final Girls screams.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yes, because Bianca couldn't scream or something. There was something
wrong with her frost.

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
And there was a great part where she's like I
was in my Alicia Silverstone face, like I was doing
all her different facial expressions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
That's great, that's recommend And it's a fun setup. I
know it's stupid, it's a fun setup. Like the Meyer's
house has cameras and they all have webcams and Michael's
and Michael actually shows up that beginning is weird though,
when he kills the cameraman and the tripod has for why,
like makes so.

Speaker 9 (01:17:34):
Annoying tire base just making her coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Yeah, dancing. You know who's in this too?

Speaker 11 (01:17:39):
Our boys in this from Smart House and Lucky the
that's our boyfriend. Disney Channel Original movies.

Speaker 9 (01:17:46):
Well we saw it, Like when I rewatched it, I forgot.
I totally forgot he was in this. That was such
one said on the on the computer.

Speaker 11 (01:17:53):
Oh Decord, Yeah, Decord is in multiple Disney Channel Original movies.

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
Sorry, Final Fascination three.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
We're gonna get back to Final Someone deckerd Blade run
a reference. I like him and his friend.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Dress up as Yeah, yeah, I love that too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Yeah, Deckard. I'm going to talk about Deckard in the bag.
I said, I want to talk about too many deleted scenes,
but there's a few I need to talk about. But
uh yeah, well I forgot to mention the director of
this film is Rick Rosenthal, who directed Halloween two. So
I mean, who are Yeah? Oh so you know John
Carper makes Halloween One, loved it, and they got this

(01:18:32):
guy to do the follow up. H Jugo comes out,
everyone loves it, and they got the same guy to
do the fulp. He should have done Halloween Kills. That's
all I'm saying. He knows how to make a good
sequel because everyone loves Halloween Resurrection and it's everyone's The
kills in this are pretty good. Yeah, yeah, they're pretty good.
American pie kid gets a knife in the head.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
That's also the dude from what Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Yes, yeah, which my good friend Dunan, a Sautia critic,
just recently. Okay, cool, Katie Sako gets her head cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I do like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Michael has been living under his house for twenty years.

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Yeah, that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Eating rats, which we made a joke about in our
short where doctor Limus he eats rats because we were
like referencing all the sequel. Yeah, so that's pretty funny.
Why wouldn't you just sleep in the house. It looks
like no one goes there.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Yeah, it's it's goofy, like you said, it's goofy. I
love the twist where like Freddy is like Freddie, Buster
Rhymes is planning all of this, but then it all
goes array when Michael shows up. The best scene in
Halloween history is Buster Rhymes stresses Michael Myers yelling at
for Michael Myers. What you're looking at me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Like that for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Got it?

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
And Michael Myers. Michael Myers is so out of his element.
He stalks white girls and oblivious dudes. He was not
ready for a sassy black guy. He was like, I
don't know what to do. I gotta walk away.

Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
He's really like, I'm so confused.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
And that's why I'm glad because it's like, you know,
all these movies they try to tell us that Jamie
Lee Curtis can kill Michael, like, oh, doctor loomis that
old guy will be able to take him? Like no, no, no, no,
Buster Rhymes, Yeah, Buzzer Rhymes is the only one who
can stop Michael Myers, and we'll talk about Halloween EN's
biggest missed opportunity. He should have come back as a
new character.

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
He needed to anything to save that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Jami Lee Kurt is like, I can't stop Michael. When
he comes in, he's like, I got this one.

Speaker 7 (01:20:29):
He starts doing kung fu.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
And Doug Fu is like, yeah, what did you guys
think of the kung fu?

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Loved it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
He liked it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 11 (01:20:39):
Give me more buster rhymes, kung fu, give me scissor kicks,
give me bo staffs or two by four's or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Well, I'm glad you said give me more kung fu. Yeah, casey,
this movie was saved. They saved this in reshoots because
the do you know what the original was? Okay, so
you know Decker character, he's been helping her the whole movie,
getting around of these situations through the text. I do
like that, just watching it by himself and more and more. Yeah, yeah,

(01:21:07):
the room.

Speaker 9 (01:21:07):
He became a life of the party.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah. So on on the page on a script, this
problem seems like a good idea, Like, hey, this guy's
been helping her virtually should come in at the end
and show up and save her, and they shot that.
The original ending is Decker coming in and saving her
from Michael when they're in the shed and everything's on fire.

Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
Look looks good on the page, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Thank god. Someone watched that and went, what the no, no, no, no,
can't Buster rhymes, We're doing more kung fu. We're ending
this movie. He's gonna do cung fu and he's gonna
lecture cute Michael Myers ball in the balls, in the balls.
But the funny part is when you watch it, when
the door gets cut, cut down or kicked down, you

(01:21:56):
still see Decker. Decker is the one. Yeah, you can
see some of you. If you like freeze it, it's DECKERD.
And then it cuts in it's Buster.

Speaker 9 (01:22:04):
I need to rewatch that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
So, I mean, it's stupid if you think if you
were to write the movie like that, it'd be stupid.
You're like, you know, obviously deckerd should save her. And
then there's like a little romance because.

Speaker 9 (01:22:13):
They shot they even get together, like do they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
There were multiple endings where it's like when he was
the one to save her. There were some endings where
they were implied they were gonna have a romance, but
again some hero saved the film and they went, no, no, no,
he's coming in. He's gonna say street motherfucker shot a trink.
Well the fuck, and we're gonna put it in every trail.

Speaker 9 (01:22:35):
I was waiting for that moment, and I'm then he does,
like pretends to die. Yeah, like you think he dies,
And I'm like, oh, I'm pretty sure he is a
quote I don't know. Finally, so ruined it spoil it
for my sister.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Oh man, I'm sure she was on the edge of
her seat wondering if Buster Rhymes was gonna come back
and see.

Speaker 11 (01:22:54):
Between yeah, between tri or treat motherfucker, let's get some
you know what does he say?

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
Danger?

Speaker 7 (01:22:59):
Taman up in your asked or something something like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
That, let the dangertainment be goin. Yeah, just so good,
Like you're not Michael mas Ah, Michael ma How could
anyone hate this? It's too stupid? They hate although it
was funny. They asked John Carpenter when Ends, when he
was doing promotion for Ends, if he had watched the
other sequels that he wasn't involved with, and he mentioned

(01:23:24):
Halloween Resurrection. He's like, I watched the one where there
were cameras in the house and then the guy at
the end has a speech about violence that I thought
it was awful, And you know, for me, I think
that's John Carpenter being jealous.

Speaker 7 (01:23:36):
Gee.

Speaker 11 (01:23:37):
John Carpet pretty much hates all the I think he
hates Halloween two, which.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
He wrote, but he admits it sucks. I mean, I'm
sure he likes the new three because they let them
shoot music with the sun. But I think he was
just jealous because obviously the first one is the best,
but Resurrection is clearly the best one after the first one.
John carbon to watch it, He's like, that's that should
have been the sequel.

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
The whole time, I think he's like, this is Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Reality show message about violence at the end. My god, dude.
It's great, guys, it's great. But I do want to say,
you know, Screen Factory, who I was praising earlier, they
released the first five individually, right, and everyone's like, all right,
well when they do in HUO, Curse of Michael Myers
and Resurrection, I'm guessing Halloween five or three didn't sell well.

(01:24:24):
So those sons of bitches. The only way you can
get Halloween h two is if they packaged it with
six in Resurrection, which people don't like. I'm like, oh,
you Mart, you are most people aren't gonna buy. I
mean I would buy five copies of Resurrection, but most
people probably would. And I'm like, oh, you shirks. I
got to buy this box set. Yeah, they got you, Tony. Yeah,

(01:24:48):
I it's great. I mean, why do you think it's
the greatest movie ever?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:24:52):
I know, I for you, man, this is obviously super nostalgic,
the first one you saw in theaters.

Speaker 7 (01:24:58):
This movie means, this is the sequel means a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
And I love the passion and to be honest, where
the series was at that point, It's like, I don't
know how much damage are we doing? Who gives a.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
Ship that we're really late in it? But yeah, I mean,
you know, there's some great moments in this. It's very silly.
What's your favorite part of this film?

Speaker 9 (01:25:17):
My favorite part? Yeah, I'm glad Brian Merriman was in it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Were you guys let down that they didn't show tire
Bank's death scene? Yeah? I talked about in the workprint cut.
It's a letdown. He just chokes her and she's like,
I'm like, all right, I kind of it is weird
because they show when they were promoted the movie. There
were so many pictures of Michael leaning behind her, and
for years, I'm like, I need to see this. I
need it's done. A lot of the deleted scenes are
still not non official releases. You gotta you can watch

(01:25:50):
my video. But I'm like, I'm finally gonna see the
tire Bank's death scene. I'm oh, that sucked.

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
Damn that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
They probably couldn't get her back for a reshoot, and
they're like, just cut.

Speaker 7 (01:25:59):
Out the.

Speaker 9 (01:26:01):
I wasn't a fan of Oh god, I just forgot
say totally just forgot you weren't I was a fan
of the Final Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Oh you know, yeah, yeah she was as a Final Girl.
Really I like that actress. I've seen her and all
their stuff, But yeah, she was a weak Final Girl.
I'll give you that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:18):
I definitely didn't care.

Speaker 9 (01:26:19):
Then't he like rhymes like carry her on the shoulder
and then he like turns background.

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
She's yeah, dude, man, this is this. Tony loves this
movie and about it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Thank they added that scene where Michael's at the morgue
and he wakes up again, but she technically, oh yeah,
the one ending, she technically would have been the one
to canonically kill him because she shoves an axe in
his face. Jamie Curtis wasn't even able to do that,
so that would have been a let.

Speaker 7 (01:26:46):
But she was able to Jerry rig a trap up on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Buster Rhymes killing Michael. All on board with this girl
killing Michael like scene Michael Wya's is a killer show.
Hi everyone, future Tony interrupting the video. If you, for
some reason were not very into Halloween Resurrection one, What's
wrong with you? It's awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Two?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
There actually is another follow up to Halloween H two
oh and I actually covered it last year in a video.
Check out my video are Halloween, The Curse of Michael
Myers and H two O Connected. I covered a series
of comic books that, as you guessed, connect H two
with four, five, and six, but they also have a

(01:27:31):
different version of what happens after Halloween H two Oh
and there is a huge surprise twist that I think
you would really really enjoy. So go back and check
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