Is Stay Alive The Only Disney Slasher - Hack The Movies (#432)

Did Disney secretly make a slasher flick? Did Frankie Muniz star in it? And why did they hack away chunks of the story before it hit theaters? Join Crystal and me as we dive into the Director's cut of Stay Alive (2006)!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Crystal, Hello Tony. I just want to apologize wow
for not putting you in the Silent Hill episode. I
know you really like that movie. I'm really sorry you
were not in the Silent Hill episode.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
But I think I found a good alternative, a different
two thousand and six ghost movie that's about video games
and features Alice Kreig. Depending on which version you're watching
and what could be Stay Alive from two thousand and
six the only Disney slasher movie. I'll explain in the

(00:32):
second today on Hacker Movies. They also had like partnerships
with Dimension and stuff, but like Hollywood Pictures is what
they owned. So this is the only kind of slasher
movie that's Walt Disney approved. Yeah, stay Alive. There's a guy.

(00:55):
There's a guy. Yeah, there's a guy. Actually, there's a
few guys who recommend this in our comments all the time,
all the time. I did, and I uh, I decided
after the whole under Wraps debacle from last year to
never listen to anyone who suggests the same movie over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Which for like five years now or four years at
the time last year, A guy on every single one
of our videos. Just begged me to review under Wraps,
the Disney Channel original movie about a Mummy, that I
should show the twins anyway. Um begged and begged and begged,
So me, Casey Tim got together. Tim brought all his
under Wraps merchandise and we reviewed it for that guy.

(01:39):
And then he didn't respond to the video, and then
the video flopped. So I've been telling people, don't did
you tell that di like yes, And he said he
didn't want to admit that it was over. He didn't
want to he couldn't accept that the gimmick was over. Uh.
So I've been telling people that I won't do movies
if you recommend him over and over again. However, we

(02:00):
do get a lot of requests from Stay Alive. I
think for multiple people. I know there's one guy who
does it the most.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
But what about like the craft Legacy, what about that one?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
He's still trying, He's still trying, you know what, He's
probably watching this going motherfucker. I've sent you so many
copies of that movie and you picked a different movie instead,
But no, you recommended people recommended Stay Alive, and then
I don't know. I guess when I was doing Silent Hill.
I was just like, oh, yeah, there was that other
ghost movie. And you know, it's funny. When I picked this,
I didn't know the Alice Kree connection because I didn't

(02:36):
know there was a director's cut for this movie. What
did you know about Stay Alive? Did you know this
existed at all? Okay? This came out two thousand and six.
I think my Yeah, my girlfriend at the time wanted
to see this. I did not no pre Johannah, pre Johannah.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You got a girlfriend, pre Johannah.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, I remember her wanting to see this. We did
not see it together. I think I watched this on
like HBO or something, maybe like that summer or afterwards, okay,
And I remember it being a lame PG thirteen, confusing
mess with bad effects, and it was dumb, and I

(03:19):
never wanted to watch it again until we did this
episode and I'm like, all right, let me go get
a copy of that movie legally totally, and then I
legally accidentally got the unrated cut, which I didn't know
existent I was watching this movie. There's a scene early on,
because I remember it being PG thirteen and lame, and

(03:40):
there's a scene early on where you know, there's some
naked people, and I went hold on white and I
looked up there's two very different versions of the movie.
So you are your first experience, I guess is the
good version of the movie.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Thank god, because if it was PG thirteen, I don't
think I would like it.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, but yeah, I was. All I remembered from this
movie was the dumb video game shit and Frankie Munez
was in it. That's all I remember. It was Frankie
mune As was in it, and it had stupid video
game bullshit and it was PG thirteen and lame. But
how do I feel about it now? Yeah, let's find out.
First off, this is a horror film by William brant Bell.

(04:22):
He would go on to do that stupid found footage
movie The Devil Inside, and then he ended up doing
those movies The Boy and The Boy Too about like
The Killer Boy Doll. Have you seen any of those?
I didn't either. He also haven't seen this one either.
He also directed the Orphan prequel that came out a

(04:44):
few years ago. You remember the Orphan, right, Yeah, there
was a prequel that came out a few years ago.
He directed to that, and, like I said, Disney's only slasher.
It's kind of been forgotten.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Does Disney know there's a gorrier version of it?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Probably? Probably, they might have forgotten. Hollywood Picture is closed,
but they might have forgotten because I couldn't find a
Blu ray of this. I have a DVD coming. I
mean it already came. I watched this legally. I have
a DVD coming because the copy we have wasn't the best.
But yeah, let's let's talk about this film.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So did they film it the way you describe the
PG thirteen version, It sounds like it was filmed completely separate.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
No. I think it's just because because this was like
one hundred something minutes. Uh, they butchered it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, this was an hour and forty minutes long.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, they butchered it down to like ninety minutes, So
they just cut out. It's more like the there's a
big section of the film that's cut out and all
the kills are cut down. But I think they meant
for it to be an R rated film.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay, I was gonna say, wasn't intentionally cut to be
a PG thirteen?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah. I don't know why they thought this movie should be.
That happened with a couple of movies. I think there
was that slasher movie cry Wolf that I think was
heavily edited and they cut down to PG thirteen.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
There are certain movies where they intentionally did that for
ratings or for distribution.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, and also so it could play multiple times in
the theater. Yeah. I don't know. I guess they just
thought they'd make more money if it was PG thirteen.
I don't know if they did or not, but this
was the era where it didn't matter if it was
PG thirteen. You would definitely get an unrated DVD when
it came out. Now you just kind of kind of
hope that they put out an unrated version of something. Yeah,
let's let's go through this film. Yeah, this wonderful film

(06:34):
that I'm sure I liked it, Okay, I liked it.
Opens up on a digital castle and a character is
walking through the halls and we see spooky ghosts and
a woman in red. More ghosts and monsters chase this

(06:56):
guy and then he gets hung. In the game, the
player is a guy named loomis played by Milo ventimil.
It might be hanged.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It is hanged. Okay, So because you we do we
normally say hung, right, we don't say hanged. You only
say hanged when someone's actually literally.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Been Yeah, I should have said hanged. Okay, sorry cool. Anyway,
He's scared by this game called Stay Alive. He's played
by Milo Ventimiglia. He was Rocky's son in the newer
Rocky Movies and Rocky Balboa and Creed Too. He's Rocky's son.
He's startled, he's walking around. He catches his friends having

(07:34):
sex in his parents' bedroom with a pig mask on. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think that was meant to be like a like
a surprise, like you think it's a killer or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
This is right after Saul. There's a couple of movies
out at this point. You think that was supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like a, yeah, it'supposed to I think it's supposed to
be a very quick fake out.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh no Jigsaw, but I like the guys like do
you want to watch or what's going on here? He's
like no, no, it's fine. So he gets startled and
then he finds his friends dead and then he dies
like he died in the game Hang in his house. Yes.

(08:18):
The next day we see a character named Hutch, which
is played by something Foster not Ben Foster. This is
his brother. They wanted to give it to Ben Foster,
who's in a bunch of movies. He's an Angel and
X Men three and a couple other films, but he
decided to give it to his brother.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Was he his brother and anything that's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't know, but his bloss Miller is played by
Adam Goldberg. The Hebrew Hammer, which I reviewed last year
on the last or first night of Hanukah. I don't
remember which one because I'm not Jewish. Go back and
watch that episode. That was a really fun episode that
didn't do well. It was a lot of fun. Me
Royce and Pesse did it. I had to do with Me,
roy and PESSI. That movie holds up pretty great. The

(09:00):
Heaper Hammer h So he's his boss Miller and he's
really upset with Hutch but not about his job. No,
he's upset that about the advice he gave him for
Silent Hill.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
For which is hilarious. How to kill the Final Boss?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes, uh, you talk about different theories on how to
kill the Final Boss. They don't mention any theories about Foreskin.
Our good friend Justin Wang. He has a video where
he went down a rabbit hole of Silent Hill fans
thinking Silent Hill four is about a character's feelings about
his foreskin being cut off. Go look up Silent Hill

(09:37):
Foreskin you'll find Justin Wang's video.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Jesus Christ, his videos are.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's funny. Someone on Twitter the other day they were
talking about, like, Silent Hill is in that deep fans
over analyzed stuff, and I retweeted it with Justin Wang's video.
I'm like, oh, fans overthinks Silent Hill. It's the foreskin video.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I feel like I need to be fucked up every
time I watch one of his. And I'm sure he
appreciates that.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
So he was only hired to give the Boss video
game advice because they're hardcore gamers. Hutch finds out that
Loomis died. It's very upset about it, and at the
funeral he meets a blonde lady who's taking photos.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Do people normally take photos at funerals?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
She's not friends with any of them, She's just there
snapping photos.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I thought she was friends with the girl that died.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh, she was friends with the girl that died. I
guess that was her reason for being there. Yeah, I
forgot about that. This whole movie, I was hoping there
was gonna be some revelation with that girl, and there's
one revelation, but it's like not important.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
No, it was it.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I kept expecting like a twist or something with her.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I thought she would be like behind the murderers or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, she's She's just replacement girl when the girlfriend dies spoiler.
That's literally all she is in this movie. She's a backup.
But yeah, she's talking to him. They're getting to know
each other. And then uh, Louis's sister gives Hutch all
his video games, including one called Stay Alive. Hutch meets

(11:03):
with his girlfriend October played by Sophia Bush.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think, yes every time I see her. I think
one Tree Hill, Yep, every single time.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Brooke Davis and her brother Phineas played by Oh God,
damn It, the guy from Always Sunny, Yeah, and a
bunch of other movies. FU hold on Jimmy Simpson. Yes,
Jimmy Simpson. They're brother and sister. They work at a
internet cafe. He's so funny talking about the game Stay Alive.
It was a game that he was beta testing before

(11:30):
he died. And Phineas is like, oh man, it gives
me a boner. He is stereotypical. The writers don't really
know anything about video games and they're making it up.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yes, I will say I wouldn't play this game it
honestly like it sucks. No, But it reminds me of
the first Resident Evil.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Nick. It's a little too running Gunny.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Mixed with non masker puppet combo.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I never played that one.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
That you by on line. It's more like an indie
game and stuff like that, but it has like that
same feel and the effects in that are the scariest
effects I've ever seen in a video game. Like it's
very that style but actually petrifying. I actually like I
was doing. I was playing it when I was on

(12:20):
Twitch and it actually made me jump.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
For a second. But I'm a done playing Silent Hill
f and when I finish the thing, which I've been
trying to finish for a year, maybe I'll check that
one out.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's actually it's really freaking good puppet Combo makes Really.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm excited for that, excited for that hell Raiser game
coming out. It's all single player, baby, thank god.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I can't fucking do multiplayers.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I can't do them. Anymore. And the New Halloween they're
stressing that it is single player and multiplayer.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm like, okay with that.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I'm like that single player better not be because the
single player for Evil Dead wasn't that good. So I'm like,
all right, it actually better be like a legit single
player game. Yeah, and not in the after thought. Evil
Dead and the other ones they're single player things were
after thoughts.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I tried the chance all Massacre.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
We tried it together. I just I don't have time
to get good at them.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But it's not even that. It's like I hate playing
with other people.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, and the bots aren't that great.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, like one. I know I'm not great with video games.
I know I'm not, but I still like to play,
even though I suck, especially shooting games.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
The only ever one, the only one of those I
ever really liked was Friday the thirteenth. That was the
only enjoyable one really. Evil Dad was fun as a human,
but as a demon it sucked.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
No, Friday thirteenth was a really good one. I want
to it makes me want to play. I have it little,
but playing as.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, that was fun. It was fun. Both both ways
playing were fun. Yeah, yeah, anyway, they're excited about this
new game. They want to play it to honor Loomis.
Uh hutch is washing plastic solo cups. I think that's
the show that he's poor.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Maybe felt that. I felt that strongly. I went through
that phase in college.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, I feel like we all did. Actually. Anyway, he
gets startled by his friends. Swink, played by Frankie mune As.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Can how did you cannot imply.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Who's wearing an upside down visor that's on his head? Sideways?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
That was a big like nineties thing, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
It might have led over into the two thousands. Yeah,
they got around. They have like a whole land party.
Abigail shows up. Oh. I relate to Swink's mess of cables.
Most men, Most men have a mess of cables. I
try to organize them as best as I can, and
then occasionally I'll find a box. It's just a mess
of cables.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I have a been Yeah, when I moved, I was like,
I know, I'm gonna need these cables. I don't know
what they are. I'm just gonna put these in a
bin and take them with me.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I right now in the storage, I have like power
USB and stuff. But then I occasionally I'll like get
rid of something but keep the chords and leave it
in a box. I'm like, oh shit, now I have
a whole new box of chords that I have to
figure out.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I swear to God. A couple of days ago, I
ordered a new cable because I didn't feel like going
through that box of cables.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I've been there. I've been there, right. I look at
the pile and I'm like, a new one.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I just I don't open up that box. I don't
want to open up that box. But at the same time,
I don't want to get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I don't know why. Well, I was going through the cables,
We're hearing some video game lingo, video game.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Words, feeling you feel like this is a very.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Forced video game, very very forced.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I also went in with zero expectation because you told
me to watch it. So every movie that you tell
me to watch, I go with zero expectation because that's
usually what.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was, like, Hey, uh, we're gonna watch tell me.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
What good movie have we watched that I shouldn't have Hadden,
But what if I.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Was like, what if I was like, Hey, Chris, we're
gonna go watch Casa Blanca. You were like a going
zero expectations for Casa Blanca.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I've seen because it's a good movie. Okay, movies that
I here, movies I haven't seen already. I go in
with a very low expectation, makes sense, I guess. So
unless it's like one of the newer that we're doing
on the wrap up, then I'm like, alright, maybe maybe
there's a chance it's just out. But if we're reviewing

(16:15):
a movie, most of the movies we've.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Ever reviewed, you assume Stay Alive was gonna be bad.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yes, anyway, it's like ever since you made me watch
all the wrong like a lot of the wrong turns.
Oh god, that is that is what made me go
I'm never trusting that motherfucker again.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Anyway, I'm not gonna go too much into like what
was cut out for the theatrical version, but no, I
wanted to know, Well, I have a few, I have a
few big ones, and I'm gonna point out it's honestly,
a lot of the theatrical cut changes are just shortening
scenes and cutting out gore. That's like a majority of it.
But there are some big.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Moments you have cut out the gore though, like the
gour is, but it is quick. I know you can't
see any blood, right, or it has to be a
different color.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, I'm glad you mentioned this. The new Predator film
coming out is PG thirteen, and fans are really really upset,
and they would expect me to be upset because I
hate Alien versus Predator, which is PG thirteen. The thing is,
there are no actual humans in the new Predator movie.
It's the Predator. It's a bunch of monsters, and then
it's the robots from the Alien movies that don't have

(17:26):
organs and bleed white liquid, so they're technically not human.
So they're getting off on a technicality where it can
be as gory as hell. But since it's not realistic,
they could do a PG thirteen and you can just
say the robots aren't allowed to curse. It's not what
I would have done, Crystal. But if they're trying to
do some they're trying to do something new, a movie

(17:46):
from the Predator's point of view and we're alien and stuff.
I'm like, I kind of like that. So people were
expecting me to get real upset. But if you watch
the trailer, he's slicing things up like crazy. It's like, yeah,
but it's more a problem with the MPAA. It's so
inconsistent and stupid, like, oh yeah, he can cut him
up as long as they don't bleed the certain color,
and like, what kind of world do we live in?
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
A weird ass, but me character.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is literally gonna be a robot girl who's severed in half,
and like on The Predator, love it. The twins are excited,
I bet because it's one that they can watch. They
can now watch two Predator movies.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm glad you let them watch PG thirteen movies.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's good enough anyway. Uh. This scene, however, of him
giving Abigail the toilet paper was cut out of the
theatrical cut is very important scene of him giving Abigail
toilet paper when she's in the bathroom and he realizes
there's no toilet paper.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I think it was to set up him, like showing
that he's into her. But then it kind of makes
him like a dick because he has smoking hot Sophia
Bush as his girlfriend. Yeah, and it's like wait, I'm
not really like they're both equally hot and he already
has a really hot one I'm not gonna really be
into the relationship because now just seems like he wants

(18:59):
to get on his girlfriend for no real reason.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, because their relationship seems just fine, Like there's no argument.
It's like no one's an ask the one argument.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
At the very end under like extreme circumstances.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
There doesn't seem like there's anything.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
But yeah, we never see it anything. It just he
met a hot blonde girl and he saw her taking
a shit, and suddenly he's into He's.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Into some funky shit. Like Sophia Bush does not let
him walk on, like walk in while she's in the bathroom,
but this girl does. Was the sex scene in the
uncut version or in the.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Opening sex scene? Yeah? So how or if it was,
it was trimmed around. That's the thing. When I saw
the guy's butt, I'm like, this isn't the PG thirteen.
And when I saw her naked upside down, I'm like, yeah,
I'm like, am I watching a different version?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Did they just assume there were people.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
In there having I would have to watch I would
have to watch the theatrical version. Again, I didn't know.
I didn't know there were two versions when I picked
the movie. I'm sorry, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Want to know how they said that their friends died.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
But when I looked up the the big changes, this
was one of the bigger changes. The toilet paper scene
is time the theatrical cut. They all log in to
Stay Alive and h Miller is playing remotely from the
office and they don't know how to start the game,
and then Abigail tells them to read the prayer and
they're like, voice activation, that's next shin technology. I'm like,

(20:19):
there were definitely games that had microphones attached to them, Like,
I guess it's weird because they don't have microphones, so
I guess it would be weird to expect. But like
they're acting like some voice recognition and video games. Whether
it was like this outlandish idea, I'm like, no, it existed.
It sucked, but it existed.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I would think it's weird if it existed, but I
had no microphone, Like how that?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Fuck? Did it? Hear me? I would be very creeped
out by that.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Actually, So they read it and they call her a nube.
They say something like nube. It's so dumb. Again, they
were like went into like a video game forum and
they're like, this is how the kids. Fuck, Yeah, I'm hip,
I'm with it. Austin Powers, go back and watch our
Austin Powers episode. But yeah, so she turns out to

(21:05):
be right. They read this incantation and the game starts
and they select their characters, who look like every select
a character screen I ever played it with PlayStation two games,
and the game takes place on Elizabeth Bathory's plantation two
hundred years ago, which is confusing because Elizabeth Bathory was

(21:27):
an Hungarian who died in Slovakia in the sixteen hundreds,
So I'm not sure how she made it to America
two hundred years ago and then got into a video game.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, there's a lot of questions. I'm not gonna watch.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that was a little weird, Like you're saying, I
love this because I'm like, I know Elizabeth Bathory and
I'm like, was she an American thing? And I looked
it up. I'm like no. Also, two hundred years ago
was not that long ago, and she died before that.
They are shocked that the controllers vibrate, but this is
two thousand and six. It's like it's been ten years

(21:58):
of the dual shock control. At this part, it wasn't. Yeah,
that was I was just like, that's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
They realized that they were shocked that it was vibrating because.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I just they're like, oh, it's just like I.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Thought when I saw all that, I thought it was
more like a I guess because in my mind I
was just like, yeah, they like everyone knows controllers can.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Vibrate, so no, they're like scared of it. But it's
just like we all know that at that point. I
think it's because the rest of the movie that the
vibration is like a signal. Yeah. So they shoot a
ghost lady and the Game tells them to drop a
rose there and how roses can save their life. I
do like the cut where he's like game moves at
a snail's pace, and then it cuts to them in
the cemetery just shooting everything.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
But it kind of moves along at a snails pace.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh, that's kind of fun. And then they've this This
part drove me nuts, and it's not the actor's fault
because they don't know what's going to be on the
screen later on. But they're like they're in a room
looking for clues and the girl goes, what's that something
in the wardrobe and the guy goes nice eyes. But
when you see the video game on the screen, the

(23:06):
dresser could not be bigger and it's glowing. It's like,
how did you all miss that? Again, not a fault
of the actors. They don't know what the animators are
gonna put on screen, but it makes him look like idiot.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It does.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Nice ey, No, it was super obvious. So Miller sees
like a flash of a dead girl and then Bathory
kills him in the game, throws him on a table
and slices him with the shears. Yep. Uh. Then after
that he sees someone in his office building.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And he's still like in like talking to them.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, and no, he had a headset. He had a headset.
They all they were all wearing headsets.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
But then when he died out of the game, like
he just like he was never kicked out of the game.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And they just left his body.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh he was never put into a lobby or something like.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
No, okay, yeah, but yeah, so he's looking around a
swink learns that you can make the zombies naked by
using the Kunami code up up, down, down, left, right, left, right,
BA anyway, Uh, yeah, did the ghost program the naked
Zombie code? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
So I have more questions about how this game like existed.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I so h Miller searches the office, and he gets
lured back into his office by the controller vibrating, and
then he gets murdered the same way he did in
the game. So Hut shows up, he finds cops everywhere,
and he gets questioned by detective played by Wendel Peers,

(24:41):
who well, he was in Marvel's The Thunderbolts and he's
Perry White, Superman's boss in the New Superman movie. He's
the head of the Daily Planet in the New Superman Movie.
I almost at Bugle, and I had to remind myself
that Spider Man and he was the CIA guy in Hackers,

(25:01):
which I reviewed recently with Tim and Mike. I'm sorry,
uh master P and Parrot Ducks. Oh no, it was
Master T. I forget what Tim's name was. We struggled
the most with Tim's name. Uh, but yeah, go back
and check our Hackers episode. Hackers is a fun when
to revisit. It's so much fun. It's what nineteen ninety

(25:22):
five thought nineteen ninety nine would be and it's so obnogou.
So yeah, the cops are kind of suspicious of him.
Phineas wants to honor Miller by playing the game more,
but Hutch thinks it's a bad idea and he's like
too upset about it. Yeah, Abigail, then huh, asshole, he
really is, Like he really is.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That that felt a little force, Like his friend is
dying and you're like, well, it's not going to bring
him back. We don't play the game.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Like why Crystal, he's the douchey, wacky guy.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh like yeah, yeah, because we didn't even get to
the other party.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
If we Yeah, if we were cast in this movie,
that'd be the character I play. No, I'd probably no,
I'd probably be pig Man. I'd probably be the pig mask.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
No, because that means you would have had a girl.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Anyway, Abigail goes into her backstory.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
No, you would be the asshole assistant, like the other cop.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, you're a coffee Yeah, that would be I would
be the asshole cop. It's like, get out of here,
let me play a video game. Yes, So, anyway, Abigail
tells her backstory her dad is or whatever, her Mom's
a who cares and she's going to Princeton and I'm like, okay,
that's obviously a lie. As I'm watching, I'm like, she's lying.

(26:42):
What's her twist gonna be? And we learned that Hutch
is afraid of fire because someone please get close into
the mic. H someone, I know. I noticed it. I'm like,
just doing so far away from the bike loud, You're fine?
Oh adjusted do you say that every time?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
And I still get yelled at.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I had to apologize. Oh yeah, the last live episode,
I had to apologize to Gil because the yettie mic. Remember,
I had the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's weird because you do this for a living and
you don't go.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't use the yetti mic often, so I forgot
which way it's supposed to play. I totally forgot which
way it was supposed to go. Like, this doesn't even
make sense. I assume the logo faced out. I was wrong.
I was so wrong. Anyway, Uh so lighters terrify him.
We'll learn what that's about.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, you realize that as soon as they are going
through the bag and the one person lights it, and
it just seems like flashbacks. But it almost reminds me
of more of like like flashbacks, if it was in
the video game or something. That's what When I first
saw that flashback, I was like, does he know how
he's going to die in the video game or something.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
It didn't.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Maybe it's just the version that I watched, the one
that you legally and maybe it was just the quality,
but I was like, yeah, you know, there's.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
A lot there was a lot of legal interlacing in
that copy of the movie. Anyway, I watched.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
It all my iPad, half on my phone, half on
my iPad.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I was one of those like I turned it on,
I went like.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Oops, it was like watching a vah as.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It was the best version. It was the best version
I could get. Anyway, Phineas plays the game by himself
and he pauses it when he hears the sound. I
thought it was a live game, but I guess it's
just a multiplayer game like a couch co op one.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I thought it was a live game too.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, I don't think it's like an Internet game. I
don't think. I mean, those were around.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
But how would it not be an Internet game?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
How would they I think they were doing like a
land party. They were just connecting all their computers together. Yeah. Yeah,
people used to do that. So Hutch thinks the game
can kill them. He checks on Phineas.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, how is the compute laptop still connected to the
game when they're in the van if it's supposed to.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I feel like we're gonna overthink this and we really shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Like how do they travel with the game?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Then? I don't know anyway. They check on Phineas, who
is dead. No, he's actually ripping a big bomb. But
he's laying like this the whole time. Yeah, And then
he comes up and he's like, let's play video game.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Would you like that? Like, I get it, it's for
the the fake whatever you want to say, Like that's
an odd way.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It is weird.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
He goes outside to fix his car and he almost
gets hit by a truck. At the same time, Swink
and Loomis start to hallucinate, Like Swink imagines his eyes bleeding,
Loomis imagines like the glass the mirror breaking. So this
game is starting to mess with their head. Yeah, Swing
is like perceptive reality blah blah blah blah blah, and
it's like shut up, nerd. Hutch looks up other deaths

(29:51):
on his computer. And there actually is a good scare
here when he's in that like library area of the
office and the camera's going behind each aisle, and at
the end of one of the I was like a
ghost girl staring at the camera. That one was good.
That one kind of got me. It was subtle enough.
I'm like, I like that. I like little scares like that.
He hears the vibrating and it turns out to be

(30:14):
his boss's phone, I think. And he gets caught by
his other coworker and he notices that the mirror in
the office is shattered, and he's like, that's like the
video game. But yeah, So he lets them all know
that the deaths that are happening to everyone mimic how
they die in the video games. Cut to Phineas singing

(30:34):
in his car and driving into ghost fog. They really
tried to. I mean, he is that actor is funny.
He makes me laugh. It's just too much.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
In this one.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
This singing was fine. The singing was fine. Everything else
like his video game lingo that that sucks.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I think he was good. It was the script.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, he calls and lets him know that he's seeing
and hearing things. He's like, I don't know, man, I'm
hearing stuff. I'm seeing something perceptive reality.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Man is going to crash into a tree and it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then what he starts yelling, I'm still alive or
something like.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That, still alive in the game. He's still alive in
the game. But out of nowhere, a ghost horse carriage
shows up, and I think the theatrical cut, I think
it just drags him off screen. This on Raida cut,

(31:31):
he like shows up on screen like all mangled, and
then then we get like a weird time lapse whereas
his body there all from above and we see the
cop come, and then we see the ambulance come, we
see them throw the sheet over, and we see more
people come, and it's like this time lapse. I think
I saw the theatrical cut just cut most of that
out cut, most of the time laps out and just

(31:53):
a weird it was just a weird thing they threw
in there. I'm like, I wasn't expecting like a weird
one take time laps to happen here, but they show
up and like, what's her face is like totally wrecked
over it because that's her brother yeah. Yeah, but so.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I know, he didn't die in the video game, but
you see other deaths later the video games, like playing it.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, we find out later that the video game can play.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Weren't they already watching the video game? They were like,
oh wait, you you didn't die yet and the video
game was on or something like that.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It didn't automatically play for his death. Maybe it did
not that I remember. I could be wrong, but I
don't remember it because all of us. I mean, I
think it's supposed to have the audience think, like, he
didn't die, but it could still get you if he
did it die in the game, but it never showed
you that. Oh the game plays on its own. Yeah,
it makes sense if they weren't in front of the game.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, it's a little Chrystal. I'm starting to think there's
some holes in this movie. No think Crystal, Crystal. I
don't want to upset you. It might not be the
best script. It might not be the best script.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Tony, Tony, I think we just don't understand the film.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Maybe it's too smart for us. That's that's always possibility.
Maybe that's why they dumbed it down for us in
the PG thirteen. Maybe we watched the PG thirteen movie
and we fell everything out for it. We're trying to
watch way too sophisticated of a version of this film. Yeah,
it's it's a it's above our education.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
It is.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm a college dropout, as we all know. So this
is a college. Yeah, but like.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I also have a degree in entertainment production.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah. See that's not like a real thing. No, you're
not like a doctor. Yeah, you're not like a doctor. Actually, lawyer,
I have a trauma diploma, but like that's not gonna
help me get a job, have you?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
But did you try?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
After I got the trauma diploma year later, I didn't
have that job anymore. Yeah, February twenty twenty two, Oh
my god, February twenty twenty two. By February twenty twenty three,
I started moving here and I was done at work.
So if anything, the trauma diploma later.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
The over I crashed her life.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I have to call up like confident, let him know, help,
said I am.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Maybe it's because you haven't shown that diploma to.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Other jobs, right, I should? I should take it with me,
go into a job interview.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
What's your experience?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I have a Trouma diploma from Lloyd Kaufman.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
How did you not know who that is?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I think I deserve to be the CEO of pat
Smart Pet Smart. I try to pick like where are
my gonderies? Something I went to pet smart race you
couldn't think.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Of like Johnson and Johnson or like Microsoft.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
No no, no no. Yeah. Anyway, so the detective, they
try to tell the detective detective about the Haunted game.
Of course, the detective doesn't listen to them. The detective
just thinks it's them, and then the other detective thinks
it's fun to play the games, like I'll play the game,
and he plays it really fast. He creates his character,

(35:23):
gets to that whole intro and everything, and then ties
right away in the big torture torture rack.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, would you find out later spoiler that's how she died,
Which is weird that that would be that close in
the game that might begining.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Wouldn't that be I think they're just all in the
same dungeon.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Wouldn't you think like you would die the same way
she did, like as like almost like a main or
like a final boss kind of thing. Yeah, do you
think you could just die in all different ways. The
way it's just this is.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Whatever's fun for her. October Sophia Bush is crying and
she blames Hutch for killing everyone. She's upset, but she's like,
why did you bring that game into our life? You
killed all of us? And then Hutch is just like
Ino said, He's like, Abigail wouldn't say that to me.
He's got the hots for Abigail.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
The detective, you know what, She's way better than him.
That's why she's like, So the.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Detective, this is the age of the Internet. He hears
about this game Stay Alive. He decides not to google it,
and then he's like, I know what I'll do. I'll
go to the local game stop and I'll just ask
the guy there, do you know Stay Alive? And guy's like, no,
it's like not a game. He's like maybe it's an
underground game. And I'm like, why did you go to

(36:43):
a retail store for information? You ask him like who
developed the game or anything? So yeah, then we get
the mirror scare in his car. Elizabeth's in there and
then she puts the rack around him, which splits his
head open, sprays and ever, I think that might have
been cut out like all together the other But that
was a great kill. It also feels like Saul a

(37:03):
little bit. Yeah, the whole splitting head open.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
But then how I'm so curious of how these kills
were done in the earl in the pg. Thirteen one,
because you see the blood.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I think it's just a lot of cutaways.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
But how did you do that?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Like, how would you with this one might have not
even been in it.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Did you say there's two characters that got cut.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, we're getting to them. Oh we didn't get to them, man,
Yeah we're getting there.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I thought it would have been like the police officers
or something.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Nope, Uh, big actor.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That was such a good splatter in the.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It was good. It was good. I actually didn't mind
that one. Abigail learns about Hutch's backstory while they're breaking
into the house that Loomis lived in, and he talked
about how his dad thought that his mom was cheating
on him, and he goes, she wasn't, And I'll watch that.
I'm like classic woman live. Of course she was. Uh,
and the dad decided to burn down the whole house.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
No, we could have her or if I can't, Well
that is classic.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
That is a classic man thing. Yea, but yeah, I've
never been that man.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I don't want to say man, it's like such a boy.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I've never been there. I'm like, if I can't have her,
then yeah, probably someone else, maybe multiple people will have her.
It's on me. Really, I just got to look for
someone new. Wow, you don't really dwell. I don't really dwell.
I'm just like, ah, I lost that one. What are
you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Usually come up with like a good reason why you
didn't like them anyway. Oh they're too big, they were
too they had a boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Was it last year? I was like, oh, I can't
have If I can't have her, I'm just gonna go
to big Heads and get ship faced with Lauren and
then done with Manny the next day.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Maybe if you stop going for.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Women that have cutting that out, cutting that out a
little too on the nose. So yeah, that's why he
scared a fire because his mom died and now his
dad's in jail, will be there, it's totally seventy something. Uh,
they just got.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Out and he made sure, he said, how the firefighters
just got him in time, but the rest of his
family is dead.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yep. They search Loomis's room, they find his phone, which
leads them to the game company that made Stay Alive.
While this is happening, October is looking up theories about
ghosts and Elizabeth Bathory and she learns that you need
to put three nails into Elizabeth Bathory's body to bring
her soul into it, and then you have to burn

(39:31):
her blood. Okay. They also learned about the cop who
got murdered, and then the cops come for them and
they all have to scatter. These next scenes aren't in
the theatrical.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Here we go, but like I would also know how
did he get the beta version? Like why did he
get the beta version?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'm sure the guy explained it, but I probably didn't
contained the information. Well he was a game tester.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
But anyway, but then, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Hutch and Gale. They searched the house and they find
a weird ass guy who is I forgot to write
his name down, but do you know who? Which actor
is his? This actor? Do you know which famous person
is his sister? This is Angelina Jolie's brother, the one
that she used to make out with. What this is
John Voight's son. He looks so creepy, and then I

(40:24):
read Angelina Jolie like, he does look like Angela Lena
Jolie dressed up like a man.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, that's why he looks.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
So he was. They got the creepiest guy in the
world to play that developer. But he tells him like,
I made this game based off the theories, and I
got all my information from an old lady who works
at a bookstore and knows wrote a book on her.
And then we get Alice Krieg's character, who was Christabella
in Silent Hill. She was also the poor queen in

(40:53):
Star Trek First Contact.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Okay, so, but the guy that made the game, yeah
that was I don't hate the fact that those two
people were cut out of the PG thirteen one because
it feels.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You didn't like Alice Creek Southern accent.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Went so far as to shed all the mirrors in
our mansion anyway, Why nothing happened to this guy who
literally wrote, well, something does happen to him later on,
but like, don't you think it would have happened early,
like when he made the game and finished the game.

(41:27):
I would expect him, like I it's also after like
an article being like after the you can't find the
creator because he was murdered. That's why the game didn't continue.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
It's also kind of weird that they're, like, we met
the guy who made the game, who led us to
a girl who told us where to find Elizabeth Bathory,
which is actually the guy's house that we were just that,
So it is like a weird detour that the movie
takes to get back to where they already were.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, so I can see why they cut it out,
But then you cut out Alice Creek, who again in
two thousand and six Silent Hills. She's pretty big at
the time.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, it's just it's it's she has a Southern accent,
like Elizabeth Bathory.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Bathed in the blood blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah that was.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So. Yeah. She tells her that she killed thirty nine
women and then the town killed her, but she swore
she would be resurrected in a video game. No, she
was just like, I will come back to life in
a video game. The plantation burnt down, but the tower
still exists and the underground layer is somewhere. So they

(42:32):
realized that when they read the prayer that kind of
acted as an incantation to bring her back to life
in real life, even though she would have already been
back to life because Loomis already played the game ahead
of time.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
It all burned down. How do they get the diary?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
The tower survived. Yeah, it's just everything else, so.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
They just kept the diary for like shits and giggles.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I guess so gotcha. The game turns itself on. It's
playing by itself, and I think October is the next victim.
She starts to see things and she gets uh. She
starts to see things, and then she grabs a conveniently
placed nail gun. She she happens upon a construction site
and gets a nail gun and she's like, all right,

(43:17):
I'm gonna hunt this broad And then we get to
see Elizabeth Bathory like full on. Yeah, she looks stupid.
She looks so stupid. It looks so bad. Their video
game face looks so bad. It does October. October can't
shoot for shit. She misses every single shot and then

(43:37):
she gets hung upside down and gets her throat slip.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Nail guns aren't also supposed to do that. Yeah, you
have to take off the safety or.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Whatever for it to I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
It's the same thing like with a lot of staple
guns stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But she dies and thank god Hutch has that replacement
girlfriend waiting in the wings.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
You know what do you think he planning that? Like
he was like, yo, I'll sacrifice one.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
He didn't know how to get out of the relationship,
and he was just like, maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Something bad I got to get out a good, healthy relationship,
because clearly, you know what, that's what it was. It
was just this thing where a guy just was like,
this girl's too good for me, She's got her shit together.
And then there's this girl that clearly is off because
she's taken all these pictures at a random role for her.
It wasn't even her friend's funeral.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah it was Loomis. I don't think they were all
buried on This isn't like. This isn't like night Very
Elm Street four where we learn everyone gets buried in
the same cemetery next to each other.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I mean there is eventually a giant cemetery.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, but but yeah, uh yeah, he doesn't really seem
too broken up about October. It's like, what was that relationship.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
More upset about his fucking boss.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I know. So yeah, uh so, now that you know
that the game can play itself, she's dead. Abigail then
says that she lied about her backstory and that she
lives in the van. And then I was like okay,
and and and that's it, And I'm like, oh, what was?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Why do I we're more pathetic?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I'm not sure why do I care to be? Like?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
You have empathy? So you really don't want her to die?
Is it because you realize as you're writing this movie
you don't really care about her because there's not much
to her. Yeah, so you're trying to add more.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Here's a question, why is she in the movie at all?
Why wasn't she the one who died? And then we
could have had October, who was his girlfriend alive.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Because he sacrificed October.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
That's why they're both beautiful women. I think I would
have went with October more. But they're both beautiful women.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh yeah, because the other one is just the thing
is I don't even know her name. We know October, Abigail, Abail.
Abigail just seems very like an idiot.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I just didn't get the revelation. It's like, uh uh okay,
I thought there was something more to that, but I
guess not.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Much of a connection with either.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, uh oh, I'm making you not
like sorry. Uh. Swink decides that he has to play
the game because if they don't play the game, it'll
play for them. So he's like, Okay, I'll be a decoy.
You guys go in there, try to find the body
and everything, and I'll like keep her at bay. So

(46:28):
they go back to the developer's house to look for him,
and then Swink notices the house that he's in is
the one from the game, and that he leads Hutch
through the house to the outside because the the house
in the game matches the layout. Meanwhile, Abigail remembers another
room from a game with the Big Dresser, so she
finds the secret room murder dungeon, Huge finds the cemetery

(46:52):
and the tower.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Why would they separate?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I don't know, Abigails.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Such he should know if he likes her this much,
don't leave her alone.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I don't think he really liked her.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Maybe maybe it's a long come. Maybe he's trying to
get what Swink Frankie munez I would Abigail finds cigaret room.
In the room are bugs and dolls and spells and shit.
So I guess the guy making the game was using
witchcraft to make his game, which or if he was

(47:25):
just developing the house, developing in the house where all
the witchcraft stuff was. Did she just magic herself and.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
He wants to make it the most realistic, so.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Maybe he did use spells in it. So anyway, he's dead.
Abigail gets attacked by some ghost girls. Swink gets chased
by Bathory. He throws roses at her in the game,
which scares her away and stops her from killing uh
Hutch because the carriage is coming after Hutch, and then
Swink throws the roses at her. Bathory locks the van

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doors and tries to play the game without him, but
he's able to get his controller in time. Then the
ghost carriage chases Swink into the woods in real life
and he falls into a rose bush.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Why didn't he just take the roses off the bush
and throw it.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Well, I think it's implied later on that at is
what he did. They just didn't show it because they
wanted us to be like, is he dead, and it's like, well,
he landed a rose bush, so probably not. He's probably
not dead, but but he was in the Yeah, it's
weird that the game said he was dead.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, yeah, the game straight said he was dead.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I'm starting to think this isn't a well written movie.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Once again, it's very well written. It is so well
written that it is beyond us.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So anyway, they gather some nails and some roses. They
get chased by the carriage. Hutch I think makes the rose,
use the rose to make it disappear. They go into
a secret tunnel below and find her murder dungeon. Yes,
they also find the passage to the tower. Abigail gets
stuck in the dungeon and Hunt hunt and Hutch gets

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trapped in the tower and she's like, you gotta do this,
you gotta save us. Uh. He finds Bathory sleeping in
the tower, looking like a normal person, not like a
skeleton lady. I thought that was odd. Yeah. Meanwhile, Abigail
is playing that he loves me, he loves me not
game why, I don't know. I feel like she should
be running away. Uh, like she just gave up.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, don't she want that rose? Why does she waste
a rose?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I don't know, like.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Is that's your survival tool?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yeah, you're literally she's an idiot. Uh. Bathory hangs her
upside down and then gets naked. Yeah, because she's gonna
bathe in the blood to be young.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
But why didn't she do that for the other people
unless she Yeah, well she had.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
To do it for a young women, which I guess
she did. Hang. Oh, you know, she hangs all the
girls upside down.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
There was only two girls.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
No, the girl in the beginning, the Sarah girl who
was having sex when they cut back in she's on plane,
so the girl specifically, she hangs upside down, of course,
and then Hutch just takes forever to hammer these nails
into her. Yeah, buddy, speed this up so before she

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gets to have her bloodbath, she gets sucked back into
her body, and then Hutch can't find his lighter to
finish the job. He does use the chrome laptop to
give her her reflection, which she hates, and that makes
her do the two thousands ghost big scary mouth. I

(50:50):
think the Mummy started that. The Mummy started the big
digital mouth extension, and then horror movies started doing that afterwards.
That's good, it's good.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I also went on the ride for the first time.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Oh, it's good. That was really good. I mentioned it
in the Mummy Returns episode, but like I remember, I
was upset because they got rid of the King Kong
Ride for it the original King Kong Ride, not the
new one, and I was like, I love the King
Kong Ride. Fuck this Mummy Ride. And then I got
on and I was just like, this is really fun.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I like this, especially when it goes like it's like
the fake out then it goes back. Yeah. Good.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
H the Mummy Ride is pretty awesome. As much as
I like the King Kng Ride, I do like it's
so yeah, he lights her up, He's able to light
her on fire, and Swink is alive. I guess the
rose bush did work. He survived and he saves them.
Everyone makes it out well except Bathory. She's dead. Uh.

(51:51):
And then somehow after all of this stay alive somehow
makes it the distribution. Yeah, but died and he wasn't
finished the game. Yeah, how did they make it to
the shelf? But then also is a yeah, she's also dead,
but we see her in the video game and it's like, oh,
but she's dead. Was there a loophole? I know with

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a lot of these supernatural killers, there's always a loophole.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, like they didn't perform it right, or that's not
actually how you kill her, that was a lie. But yeah,
how did that game?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
It must be like the same way of like how
the original guy got the game in the first place
it appeared, and now she has more power because she
got the blood of the other people. I'm just trying
to listen. I'm trying to figure it out because this
is such a good movie and.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
It's what we are at the end here. So this
movie is a win for you. You actually liked this one.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I had fun with this, to be honest, I had
fun watching it because I went in with the lois
of expectations, and I think the gore in the kills
is really what kept me interested. I like the video
game aspect. Yes it was forced. Yes it was also
two thousand and six. Yeah, I expect nothing good from
the two thousands.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
There's some good stuff there. We've reviewed good stuff. We had,
Oh the Hills of Ice remake. That was the two
thousands movie that you didn't see that I told you
to watch and we ended up all liking it. Yeah, there.
I'm sure there's more.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Movies.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
This movie is very This movie is very two thousand.
It's very cheesy.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
So I kind of went in knowing that, expecting that.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I will say, like again, I didn't remember it very well.
I just remember my first initial watch of the PG
thirteen version being like this sucks. Yeah, this time watching it,
I just went, this is kind of stupid. But I think, goh,
it sucked. I'm like, it's just kind of.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
If it didn't have those kills and the blood.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, no, you eliminate that, you got a really
lame fucking movie. Yeah, you need like the kills and
the scares. Trimming those down or cutting them out makes
it really stupid.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, it makes it fun. It makes the kills in
the game and the kills in real life just.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
But I also, I know you miss out on a
lot of the Elizabeth Bathory backstory and stuff. But cutting
out those two scenes I think did move the movie faster,
because it's literally like you didn't need it. The guy
they literally at the house where they have to be,
and the guy goes go over here to learn that
you have to come back here again.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It's like, yeah, you could also just cut him off anything.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, you wouldn't really didn't need.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
That house, So why did they sneak into a house,
Like I don't know that someone?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah, I actually am. I'm thinking of hunting down. I
don't know if the DVD that I'm coming that I'm
getting will have the theatrical cut, but I'm curious to
rewatch the theatrical cut and see how that flows. I
assume not, well.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
You're actually gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, I guess, I guess I should. For I guess
I should for this end people like when I do
the work print and all those stuff for this edit,
I probably should find the theatrical version and show the difference.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Okay, yeah, sure you might be able to just YouTube.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
So that was Stay Alive, the first and over Disney
slasher film, not counting the movies they did with Dimension
like Halloween six and H two O and but they
were part of Disney at that point. We talked about
that in Halloween six that they were like executives with
like Disney jackets on set of Halloween six. Anyway, if

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you can get the unrated cut, maybe check it out.
I think you can skip it, though Crystal loves it.
It's her favorite movie. She'll be cgi Elizabeth Bathory for Halloween.
Oh no, Halloween pass by the time this comes out,
but we're filming it earlier. So I'm guessing you dressed
up like Elizabeth Bathory and I'll show a picture right here. Wow,
look at that cosplay. That's amazing. You nailed it. You

(55:44):
did the big mouth too. Spot What do you talk about?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I was what's his face with the Mummy?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Anyway? Crystal, where can we find you? You're purposely getting
worse any You're purposely getting worse at the plugs. You
can't find me.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
On the wrap ups that I try to be in
every month. Try there you go, and do you bind
me on x slash Twitter?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Thank you, yes, give me one day.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I'll get back to Twitch.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
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but yeah, so check all of that and let us

(56:45):
know what you think of Stay Alive. Shout out to
the two or three guys who kept recommending stay alive, and.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Hopefully this doesn't bomb as much.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
As hopefully are you telling me that stay Alive starting
Frankie Munis might not be a good idea.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
For it could probably do better if it's in October,
because it says stay alive.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
It'll be beginning in November.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Hy that's like a horrible like that. At this point,
Christmas is all full activated.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Okay, now the first week in November. This is a
little bit of overlap.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
No. I went to the DMB today because I had to,
and they were already putting up a Christmas tree. But
it wasn't a normal Christmas tree. It was an Eagles
Christmas tree. So I didn't cringe as much.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Go, good job, good job. I gotta go to the
DMV soon so I can, so I can go to Florida.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Sorry, it's not for me, Fyi, it's three he's going
three hours away. You won't visit me by school?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Why would I visit you?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Okay, fine, fine, where are you at again?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
What's your address? Say it for everyone at home?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
South Florida. It's its own country.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I'll narrow it down. Oh, South Florida. Okay, it's literally
like a different country. But yeah, that's it from us.
Stay alive. We did it, We finally did it.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
You stay alive.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
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