Talking Stream (2024) With Director Michael Leavy (#424)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here. In a
while back, I talked about a fan film called leper
Kahn Revenge, and I gave it a nice review, but
I mentioned some things that I would have done differently,
because you know, it's not like the guy who made
it was ever gonna watch it. Anyway, that guy who
made it ended up watching it, and he's here today
and we're gonna talk about his movie stream, among other

(00:21):
things on Hacked Movies. Hello. Can you properly introduce yourself please?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hi? I'm Michael Levy. I am the director of said
Leperchahn Revenge movie as well as Stream. I'm a producer
on the Terrifier franchise. I also played Willdee, exterminator in
the original Terrifier. Best character might have been the best
death had we not had the infamous Hacksaw scene happen there,

(00:52):
so I like to I like to at least tell
myself that. And I'm also a producer on the film Screenboat.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yes Wait, which at this point I probably have talked
about on our live wrap up, but I haven't watched yet.
I'm very excited to see it, and we have Casey here. Hello, Casey.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hi, Tony.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
If you see the smilence my sisters say, and it
won't come off.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'll have him till the wedding.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I don't understand. I swear I'm showering. I'm so excited
to be here for this episode. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yes, oh god, I'm just dropping everything. It's been a minute. Yes,
stream from twenty twenty four. I finally got a chance
to watch it. It's available on Blue right now. You
can get it at scare Pros, where you can get
a bunch of other things apparently. Yeah, this one's been
on my radar for a little bit. Everyone knows I

(01:43):
was a little late to the Terrifier game, but I
finally got on board, and I've been seeing stuff or
stream everywhere, like every convention. Our friend Tim makes this
shirt tapes from the Crypt. Yes, I was excited to find.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
The pin from Horror Gods.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes, the pin right there.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
From my favorite player three.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
And this is a rare thing where we get to
actually talk to the person who made it. You know,
sometimes you talk about these movies and it's just like
I would love to pick that guy's brain, but they're
not around, or they've been dead for decades.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Luckily you're here so I could talk to you.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Fortunate. First of all, I just want to say, guys,
thank you so much for having me. It's an honor
to be here. I actually am a fan of your show.
Oh I've seen it quite a few times, especially some
of the Leprechaun episodes, you know, being a huge Leprechaun
fan myself. That's an honor to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
That was the point you told me, You're like, I
actually watch your Leprecaun episodes. I'm like, oh shit, soone's
watching this.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, that's how we feel with our film sometime. Like, oh, so, let's.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Get to know you a little bit, Casey. I have
your questions underlined, and yours is the first one.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
My favorite Icebreakers? Okay, what's your favorite movie, your favorite
horror movie, and your favorite Disney Channel.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Originally okay, well the Disney Channel original movie, I'll tell
you Halloween Town. We have love love it. So my
favorite movie it's a tough one obviously, but one that
always seems to come to mind is Back to the Future.
I'm a huge Back to the Future fan. Also, my
cousin Vinnie, that's a good one. And wedding Crashers those

(03:09):
are like my you know, kind of top ones. I
know a lot of more comedies, but I only answered
comedies because you asked me about my favorite horror movie.
They're really tough. That's a tough, tougher than the favorite
movie one because I'm just such a horror guru and
a horror lover. So I give you a few of
them if you don't mind, I'll rattle them off quickly. Obviously, Leprechahn,
that's no secret. When most people were, you know, talking

(03:32):
about Jaws, I was talking about Leperkhn, so you know
that was a big one. I think it's just the
time I saw it as a kid, you know what
I mean. I saw at the right time. It was
kind of made for someone my age, and it wasn't
too scary, but was scary enough and had the comedy
element to it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'm glad you said that. You probably heard me say
this in the other episodes. But I showed my goddaughter
and her sisters the first Leprekhn movie because it was
supposed to be PG thirteen, they switched it to rated
up right right, And then my cousin was just called
me up one. She's like, did you show the girls
the Killer leprechaunk because they're pretending to be leprechauns saying
they're gonna rip yours off anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, so I mean that one obviously, Halloween nineteen seventy eight.
I remember watching that with my grandfather and my mother
every Halloween it would come on on TV. I'm a
huge fan of Stephen King's hit the mini series with
Tim Curry. That movie scared the hell out of me.
I was afraid to shower. The drain was something that
I was really really scared of. And then obviously a

(04:29):
big one was Nightmare and Elm Street, Robert England, Freddy Krueger.
So those were like my go tos as I was
growing up.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
I'm glad you mentioned those two because I got someone
to say, have an.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Follow up question. Are you a producer on the documentary
for penny Wise?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
That was that was my follow up question.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I was gonna say, you produced the documentary about the
it made for TV show and the Robert England documentary.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's correct, So I did. I was a producer on
the Stephen Kings mini series. Uh documentary?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
How old are you?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Documentary? Penny Wise? It's actually cool the story of it,
and I got involved with that, and that's actually where
I met a lot of I met Tim Reid on
that doing that doc and that's why he's in stream
and so that was a really, really great time. And
I was also a producer on the Robert England documentary
as well. I played roberting not many people know this

(05:20):
in a horror film called Fear Clinic that Robert Hall directed.
It was a mini series or web series. I think
it was originally one of the most successful web series
and they turned it into a film and I was
associate producer on that, and then it was the stunt coordinator,
one of the writers and the director that was like,
you know, you kind of look like Robert. You have
very similar features, very pointy features, you know. So I

(05:45):
did it for Robert as a joke. And then he's like,
you know, there's a sequence in here where there's supposed
to be a young Robert England, young the character whatever
doctor andover and you know that's how I looked. He
just had lighter hair than I did. So they cast
me in the role and.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'm sorry, I've seen young Robert England like in v
and I'm seeing it.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So and now now you'll never see it. So if
anybody's looking for anybody's to play the new Freddy Krueger,
I'm here.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Also John Belushi. Yes, I technically lived longer than he did,
and so I have like five years left.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So talking a new Blues brothers thing that we did.
Freddy and I actually did a comedy, a comedy with
the Sky Seashells Productions. I played Date Night with Freddy
and I got to play Freddy you know, in that.
It was a comedy, but it was a lot of fun.
But anyway, so I did that and I played some
of the the demonic version that he was called black

(06:36):
or Blackness, I think it was black. And I got
to do some of that with the prosthetics.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Nice. Nice quick question about Oh quick follow up to that.
The guys who also made that was a Dead Mouse productions, right.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yes, yes, great, great group of people.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
They were on my show. I had a really a
few years ago.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
We did an episode called how to Make a Movie Documentaries.
It was right after Robodoc came out.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right, So what great group of guys. Their all their
whole entire team.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
They were larious. But yeah, we talked about the documentary
the Robert England and the big focus, of course was
robo doc because it came out. But yeah, I was.
I realized I had watched their Hell Razor one ahead
of time too, not realizing it was them, And then
I saw your name attached, like, oh shit, I like
both those movies. Okay, so fuzz on the Lens productions, Well,
how'd that happen? Where'd that come from? So?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I was always interested in making films since I was
really young, and I can remember being three years old
and you know, kind of mimicking the TV and wanting
to kind of get into this world again. I was
really obsessed with horror and comedy. That's where my heart lies.
And you can see that a lot in the work
that I do, you know what I mean. I produced
most of a lot of my horror films have a

(07:39):
little bit of comedy in them. My comedy films that
I've done have a lot of horror elements to them,
you know, And I've left Are You Afraid of the Dark?
And goosebumps? That's kind of where I was at growing up,
and so I used to steal my mom's camcorder with
my brothers and my siblings and my friends and we,
you know, we would shoot stuff in the neighborhood. And
I went to high school and I was a part

(08:01):
of my television studio there and I would do skits
and different things and parodies. I did a spoof on
SAW called Flawed. I was all the teachers involved, and
it was a lot of fun. But it was there
that we were shooting something and I was actually with
one of my business partners, m co owner, co founder
of Fuzz on the Lens, myself, my brother, and this
other guy, Steve. We were shooting this movie for high school.

(08:24):
In high school and a friend of ours is now
an accountant, has nothing to do with the film world.
He's recording the scene and he still as he's rolling,
there's a fuzz on the lens. So he turns it around.
He's blowing on it. We look like a bunch of
morons looking into the lens, trying to figure it out.
We're licking our fingers. We can't seem to get it off.
This is like a half hour of this going on,

(08:45):
and again we have it all on tape. We realize
it's not a fuzz on the lens. It's a smudge
in the viewfinder, so it was on the reverse. So
it became this ongoing gag and this joke that every
time we say, make sure you check for that fuzz
on the lens. Yeah, when you know it came time
to name our group or what we were doing, it
became fuzzle the lens productions and it meant something to

(09:06):
all of us, we do we have the clip? Yeah,
So it's cool.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
That reminds me whenever I like give people like one
of my cameras, I have a was it like peeking
on so you can tell what's in focus? But like
they never know that. So I'll be like, how do
I look at They're like, it's all red. I don't
know what's going on. Why does it look all red?
I'm like, no, that's fine. That means it's a fucus
where you got like the zebras on check if.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
It's too bright, all wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
They all freak out, like, it's fine, it's supposed to
look like that.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Because you said that you were Freddy Krueger in this.
Do you prefer the acting or directing?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
So yeah, I do act a lot in my stuff.
Very small. I think the answer is this. I feel
I'm a better director, because I'm able to get a
lot out of out of out of people, I know
how to communicate. I love both pretty equally. But if
someone was to like just say, you know, you have
to pick one, I actually would pick acting only because

(10:03):
I think that's a lot more fun. Whereas directing there's
a lot of stress involved. And that's not to say
that there's no stress when you're you know, directing or produce.
I mean when you're when you're acting. But I just
think that there's just so much on you when you're
the director. Where you're acting, you're just kind of focused
on your role and you're kind of focused on your character.
And then again, you know obviously the you know, there's
there's you see it. You see it, I mean you

(10:25):
could see you know. So I I if someone was
to say, you can only pick one, I would choose acting,
but just because of the fun aspect of it. But
I do believe that I'm a better director producer. But again,
I like all elements of it for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
You are many hats more than this one right here.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, so how did you get involved with like Damian
Leoni and like Terrifier and everything. How did you get
involved with all that?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I was directing my first feature film called Abnormal Attraction,
and it was a comedy monster horror film. It was
almost like an adult version of Halloween Town or so.
It starred Malcolm McDowell, Gilbert Gottfried, Tyler Mayne.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I love Gilbert.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
I went for Gilbert Goffred twice and he was this.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Gat nice and so so like quiet right when you Yes,
that's what.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I always tell people like. He was just like when
cameras like weren't rolling, you'd be like, okayep, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's exactly how it was. It was like action and
then it was got how was that mic? Like really okay?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Really monotone? So I did that film. He played a pig,
a pig cop pig man monster cop like, so we
had a lot of fun, but it was, uh we
had a great cast. So on that set I had
met Phil Falcone, who's the executive producer Dame Leoni's partner
in the Terrified franchise. He was just getting into making
films and he was just gearing up to do his

(11:48):
movie called Joe's War, So he'd kind of come by
our set to see because a sound guy this and
more than that, really post production supervisor producer guy. This
guy Jason Milstein was doing our sound and he was
doing a lot of post audio for us as well.
He brought Phil to the set because they knew each other,
and it was when we built this whole monster village,
like this whole camp and I'm in the middle of the woods.

(12:09):
So Phil, i think, was really impressed with that and
who we were, what we were doing. And again he
was trying to get into the film world, you know,
retired from the stock exchange, you know, just trying to
do his what his dream always was. So he invited
us to work on his movie, Joe's War, and it
was there that Damien also was doing some effects and
they were gearing up to do this Terrifyer movie and

(12:31):
it was the feature after all Hollows E's and all
of that stuff. So we got involved around that time.
But again it was only as Originally it was only
as actors, and Phil also was like, you know, maybe
come on do some crew stuff as well, but it was,
you know, we were I was cast as Will. Originally
I was actually cast as one of the cops and
that changed to Will, and then my brother got the

(12:51):
other cop, and my business partner Steve got the other one.
But on the first film was mostly acting with some
crew work. But then I, you know, we just became
so close and we really all just hit it off.
Like now we're really best friend and we always hang out.
You know. Anybody who knows and follows us, you'll see
we're always together. You know. It kind of blossomed into

(13:12):
doing more. And also I realized my character is dead,
so how do I stick around? Oh, I'll produce the
next the next ones, And I became assistant director, and
so we really got involved early on with a terrified
France before it was what it is today.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
How did you enjoy filming in the Fright Factory?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
It was cool? Yeah, I loved it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I filmed there a couple of times too.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I was telling her when we reviewed it, I'm like,
when I saw the giant rat head, I'm like, I
used that radhead.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
I love that thing.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
It was cool. It was really really cool, freezing because
there's no heat down there and it was in the
middle of the winter. But uh, but we had fun
and Frank over there, everybody's really just wonderful, wonderful.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, so Stream that goes into production like right after
terrify Er.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Too, right, yeah, almost kind of somewhat during because Terrifhi
two was paused because of COVID.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I was going to ask how did COVID complicate this production?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So on a lot of levels, so Stream, So anybody
quick backstore Stream involves I'd say ninety five percent of
everybody that's involved with Terrifiers involved with Stream. We had
been working on it for a while. I think we
wrote the script back in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen.
We were working on another film called Pennance Lane, which
was Tyler Mayn's movie. He's in it with Scout Taylor

(14:21):
Coompton and Danny Roebuck, and that's how I met. Danny
was in Stream and Terrifier John Schneider is in it.
So it was around then we were developing this idea.
It was before even my involvement with you know, Terrifying, Yeah,
but it was all around the same time we're developing
that and Terrifiers happening. So now we're shooting Terrifire too,
and right after we shoot the whole clown Cafe sequence,

(14:43):
which was later in production. I think it was that
was March twenty twenty. Everything gets shut down, Yeah, and
I think maybe we just started shooting the alley bedroom
sequence and then everything was like you gotta stop. So
now we're what are we doing? So we took that
opportunity while Terrifier was on hold, to gear up and
get every everything prepped for streams. This way, once we
everything's greenlit, we can finish Terror Fire and go right

(15:04):
into stream. And so that's exactly what happened. And during
that time, you know, we we shopped the script around,
We finished out getting some of the funding, We ended
up getting in touch with our great cast that we
ended up getting with Jeffrey Combs and Danielle Harris and
d Wallace.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And so far.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was it wasn't ever supposed to be like that,
which is funny.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It was obviously being a fan, it was this person
would be great in this role, and I'd love to
work with so and so, you know, they would fit
this character great. And then you start showing them and
they really liked the script and they enjoyed what we
were trying to do and that yes, we were making
a slasher, but we were also trying to give it
some substance, which is why it's a little bit on
the longer side and almost feels like a drama in

(15:46):
the beginning before I know, a lot of people are like,
it's it's a little heavy for slash in the beginning,
but then and that's what we want. I wanted, you
know what I mean. And Jeffrey Combs actually was somebody
who you know, kept praising that element of the film.
He's like, you know, I liked that these characters aren't
just you know, one dimensional, that there's a father and
there's like a real situation that's happening, and like you

(16:06):
really get invested, which I think there's a payoff later
for all of that. But so yeah, it was all
it was during the COVID that that was all put together.
But COVID also, which we didn't realize, really ballooned our
budget because we weren't when you're making first of all,
making movies hard enough, right, and now you're dealing with
all of these stipulations that you have to navigate through.

(16:29):
And then it raised it where ppe HEPA filters, COVID
compliance offers theers all of this stuff. So that's why
once we finished shooting, we basically took all of our
post production money that we had aside, had to put
it into all that stuff, and then ended up opening
up a crowd fundraising campaign to let other horror fans,
which we thought would be cool to kind of get
involved with and help us raise whatever we needed left

(16:52):
to finish in posts.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I do think it was good that the movie was
basically completed when you did that, So that's I can't
think people donate it because of that. They're like, well,
the movie's done.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's gonna happen, because I know a lot of is
Sometimes crowd movies get this bed rap now because these
filmmakers they say they promised the world and then they
just take the money and never shoot anything, which sucks.
And so I think everyone got to see which also
helped because now you're seeing d say hey you made
this movie, or you're seeing Tony Todd, or you're seeing
Jeffrey Comebs. So yeah, it was definitely a different way

(17:20):
of doing it. We wouldn't have went that route had
we not had to, obviously, because we thought we had
the funding in place. But I'm glad we did because
the HARR community is amazing. I'm a part of it. Myself,
and we really thought it would be cool to open
up and and the fans have been amazing and championing
this film and pushing it forward and getting the word
out there. So it's been it's been a blessing.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
So for any of you who don't know what Stream is,
can I read the back of the box here?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay? When Roy and Elaine Keenan realized their family is
trippeding apart, they seize the opportunity to recreate a vacation
from their past. A peaceful stay in a quaint hotel
is just what they need. However, that is not what
is in store for them. With four deranged killers patrolling
the seemingly mundane halls and competing in a twistic game,

(18:10):
the odds are definitely not in Roy's favorite That's clever,
That was clever.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I see I did I read that earlier and didnt
catch that?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's clever. He must fight for his life, those of
his family as their and those of his family as
their simple weekend getaway turns truly turns into a vacation
to die for now Hunger Games, that was a good
play on Hunger Games. Now obviously slashers, they're in a location.

(18:38):
It's being live stream to the internet. I think I
know where you got this. That means, like me, you
love Halloween Resurrection, you think of the best Halloween movie. Now,
when did you first see Halloween Resurrection? How do they
inspire you to make this film?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
He's go on to it for ten hours a few one.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I actually saw Halloween. That might have been the
first Halloween movie sow in theaters. Believe it.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
It was my first movie.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I remember when I saw it. My aunt took me
to see it, which is interesting enough interesting the fact
that is the mask, right, I noticed that.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Clown is also the clown mass that the crazy guy
has in the beginning. But you know this because we're
hardcore Resurrection fan.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
My reputations.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Is it sad that like there's been other movies that
were about like live stream murders, but my mind always goes.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
To that must have been it. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
But yeah, so where did the idea come from to
have like the slashers and the whole live streaming? I
know live stream is even bigger.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now, so that so we always wanted to do something
in one location because I think that that is creepy,
and I think it aids also to just atmosphere. So
it was always like this one location, one location, and
we kept talking about okay, how do we take something
that everyone does. And so this happened on two levels.

(19:55):
One is like a metaphorical level, one is a physical way.
And it was it was you know, Friday the thirteenth,
right exposes being in the camp, Jaws exposed the Day
at the Beach, Halloween exposes being in the neighborhood, and
Nightmare Home, she exposes your dreams cycle the shower right.
It was always like you take those things that go
safe places, those safe spaces, and then you just kind
of exploit them. So one thing was on was the technology.

(20:17):
Everybody uses it and in this day and age, that's
all we everybody all of our phone right now you're
watching this probably on your phone or computer or whatever.
So it's like, okay, we feel safe using it, but
there's a lot of question marks to it. So it
was like that technology kept being there about how do
we take that technology, how do we turn it into
a slasher film? Right? So then it was like, okay,
everyone goes to a hotel, and you know, we wanted

(20:39):
our hotel not to be you know, the one that
you'd say, why would you stay there?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
No one, you said, like places that feel safe like
that I've been in some right.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So we were like, you know, we wanted the general
look of like a holiday and or like a resort,
like a family place that when you watch stream you
look at that place like, yeah, I'd stay there, you
know what I mean, Like that's not doesn't seem too
you know, on on the radar there, And so that
was really the start of it. Also at the time, cryptocurrency,
bitcoin and everything is just rising up. So I wish
we would have invested in that while we were writing it.

(21:08):
You know, we probably would have. You're been pretty successful.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
You're giving me PTSD. I worked at a credit union
at the time, like when it was first blowing up,
like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen exactly, and the old ladies
there told me that it wasn't real, don't invest in
it if I could cope act.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
It right, So one time in my life.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
So that's that's how I feels like, you know, we
were writing a movie about all of this, but yet
we didn't invest in it, so you know, so that
that's really where the start of it kind of happened.
And it was also like, Okay, everybody has this, they're
always looking for the one horror icon, right, and it's
hard to do. It is it's really hard to do.
And I don't think when you're making hard movies that

(21:47):
should be your goal to set out to do, you know.
So that's partly why we said, okay, let's focus more
on the location and the game element of being that's
your that's your thing that could go on because and
that's something that doesn't have to be you know, that
makes keeps it from getting stale. You know, where you
can change up the game where it's played in the location,
and you know, instead of having one killer, you have

(22:07):
four killers and they all have their own unique personality.
So it was a lot of these things that kind
of we wanted to do the opposite of what was there,
but also pamage with tropes as well. You know, with
our masks, their carbon fiber hard mask, it was the
reverse of what Michael Myers and Jason those are white masks.
Michael in particular, like a rubber. These mouths are open,
their mouths were closed or no mouth. You know, our
eyes like dark. So there was a lot of like

(22:29):
reverse engineering that kind of happened while we were developing
the looks of the of the players.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I think you guys beat hard eyes to the punch
when it came.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, we were before, we were before. So I wonder
if they saw Stream or heard of that. I've heard
of it. I was interested when I saw it, but yeah,
so it was like I've never really seen that before,
you know. I obviously The Purge had some light up
things on there, and funny enough, the director of The Purge,
James de Monicos, really loved Stream. He gave us, Yeah,

(22:57):
he gave us a quote which was really really cool.
He's such a supporter and champion of the film. He
got what we were going for, you know, and being
horror fans, we really wanted to do something that paid
homage to the genre. You know, there are so many
things in there that maybe people don't even get specific
specifically like that pay tribute to other horror films. And
then we tried to do our own thing as well,

(23:19):
and so like, you know, I'm really proud of where
Stream ended up. Yeah, you know, and there's a lot
of horror fans that you know, I got excited about.
That's why it's continuing. It's why we just greenlit a
sequel because it's it's moving.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
And again I like the premise.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you, thank you, We're excited.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
We're amazing. I'm gonna have to get a second fleece
blanket when it comes out. It's soft, right, yeah, it is,
it's gonna be it should be the same killers, but
the colors and the eyes are different. I'm like, well,
now I got to get a whole new blanket. The
match merchandising, I will say, the premise is really good.
I like how you know you set up the killing.
It's not just Michael Myers comes home and goes, why

(23:56):
are there so many people?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
And and and it's maybe a little bit of a spoiler,
but not so much a spoiler, but it's something I
do like to talk about, just to show how much
we really did put into it, being a fan of Halloween. Right, Remember,
Michael Myers comes over the back of Jamie Lee Curtis
and he takes the sewing needle and he stabs it. It
pierces his neck in the mask. We have a similar
scene with Danielle where she's in a situation. I won't

(24:20):
say where it goes, but she grabs a pen and
goes to hit our mask and it bounces off because
it's hard in carbon filers. So it's like updated masks.
But also she plays Jamie Lee Curtis's daughter in the
Halloween movies, right, So it was like we tried to
do some of those parallels, like Tim Curry's in the
film and he has a line he says, I am
no clown, and I got that. There were like little

(24:41):
nods that we tried to pay tribute to the movies
that we love because stream to me, I just wanted
to make a fun movie that like people can go,
oh that.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Was fun fact about Tim Curry.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Thank god.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I watched this movie twice. Didn't know there was like
a scene after that one. Oh yeah yeah. So like
typing up the notes that I'm seeing Tim Curry's name everywhere,
I'm like, that movie tim crazy, not in that way
I watched it.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I'm like, oh, there was a whole other thing Tim Curry.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
So that is him? I for amitted. I'm like, oh,
it's probably just his voice. Then I saw the picture
of you and him. I'm sorry, skim it out how
did you get Tim Curry?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
So, Tim, uh, Tim, I've been obviously a huge fan,
like forever, always wanted to work with Tim, and so
I actually wanted in my first film, Abnormal Attraction, and
that was around the time when he had his stroke. Yeah,
so unfortunately that didn't happen, but I kept in touch
with Tim. I kept in touch with his management and
over the years would check in obviously the the the documentary,

(25:35):
so it was always kind of around, round it round
Tim and always so finally when this came up to
do this, I didn't know if he wanted to ever
be a part of this or do this. So I
just said, you know, really, obviously he's such a huge
inspiration as to why I got into this, you know,
this genre, into filmmaking, and so I asked. I just said,
you know, you got to ask, and Tim read the

(25:56):
piece there and he says, yeah, this looks like fun.
I'd love to be a part of it, and that
was it. I went and did it.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, So it was cool. It was really cool, and
he's great and he's so humble and it was a
wonderful experience to be with him. I brought him a
bottle of wine and uh red and Italian red wine.
We love it and we just had a really great
time and it was really nicest to be with him.
And he was like shocked I like came out to
see him and do it, you know, and I was
like sure, you said, yes.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
You're Tim Curry. I'm shocked you're.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Doing Yeah, yeah, la, Yeah. He lives out in California,
So it was an honor to do that. And honestly,
everybody you know we had in that same scene, Bill
Mosley and Arry Kaiser weekend at Bernie's. He is a great,
great guy. So I really you know, our cast was
really awesome, and it was again, you know, as a
horror fan, I was really happy to kind of do that.

(26:46):
I don't necessarily always love ensemble films. A lot of
times they don't work out, but I wanted to make
sure that anybody who was a part of it, it
was something that was a fun reason why they were
a little nod or they fit the character, you know
what I mean, Like, yeah, I could go get know,
some unknown person do the role, but if this person,
you know is Tony Todd, that fits it and you know,

(27:06):
can bring some kind of gravitas to it, and again
it makes sense then, you know, I wanted to be
able to do that, so it was really cool that
it all came together that one.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I just love that he wore the leather mask the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Dedication.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, although he has an answery val.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
He was in makeup for all of Legend, which, by
the way, I reviewed Legends this year both first Legend.
Which version do you like more, Director's cut or American Theatrical?
I'm all in on.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Direct I like them for both reasons, so that's why
I'm hesitant on it. Yeah, I like them for both. Well,
here's my question. I'm gonna flip it. I'm not avoiding
the question, but I'm curious about this. I don't want
to forget it. Halloween six, do you like the director's
cut or the theatrical release?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I'm glad you asked. I'm not going to answer because
the episode airing before this is me breaking down both.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh okay, well tune in on that or maybe this
is after, so maybe you're after.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So go back, go back. Casey, you had a question
that was also Halloween relieving.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh yeah, did you take inspiration from Rob Zombies Home?

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I don't the table.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, I mean, yes, it's okay, Yes, I know what
you're saying. You know what's funny is I actually was
cleer us like can we throw d through a table?
And somebody mentioned, well, she was thrown through and I
went back and watched it. I was like, oh, yeah
she was, so I guess maybe subconsciously it was there.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
The girl down the hallway.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Which girl down the hallway? Naked girl down the hall
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I guess again,
being a horror fan, sometimes it's just it's just subconsciously
in there. So maybe, yeah, you know, it's fine. It
was funny. I have such a love for the Halloween
franchise in general, Like I don't know if you guys
even know. We did a we did a fan film

(28:54):
called Halloween. There was one that was Halloween Awakening that
we actually submitted to Halloween Movies when they were running
a fan contest. We poured like everything into that, and
then the competition got canceled, but we still released it
and they saw it and they called me about and
they loved it. I talked to them over them, like
I know them now. So it was a funny story.
And then we spoofed the Halloween twenty eighteen trailer. We

(29:16):
did Halloween sixty and we got a current mold of
William Shatner's face now and receding hairline, and we did
shot for shot. You got to check it out and
shot for shot of this. But it's old man Myers,
and we kind of like all the tropes, like the
accessor ride bus crashes instead of the Crimelin's saying, you know,
this was a lot of funny.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Did you see our Halloween parody we did a few
years ago.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I have not. We did have to check it out.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
We did Halloween in five minutes. We condensed the whole
movie into five minutes. But it's got like a million
in jokes in it.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh that's the rest of the awesome very nice. I
got to check it out.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I want to say. Six people played Michael Myers, much
like your original Halloween.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
So you followed, you follow suit.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You can tell though, because it's like it's like me
when I was heavier filling out the suit, I get shot,
fall down, and then it's Joe's wife who's way thinner.
In between John's Michael's just change.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well that was like the mask and yeah, the four
or five masks in that movie and a c G
I one.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, that's the most disturbing one album.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Oh, come back to the theatrical and director's cut. Can
I share mine? Sure, but it's for a different.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Movie that had a big impact on me. My I
like the that theatrical cut of cry Baby.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I haven't seen My Baby in so long.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's one of my favorite Johnny movies.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Do you like john Waters? Though? I did a while back, meaning, uh, Casey,
did you know you're Casey? Kaylee me and heard the
uh Serial Mom, which was a lot of fun, But
I want to check. I didn't realize there was a
director's cut for Crime missed out on that. Kayley also
reviewed that one. Check that one out. But yes, Casey,
he wasn't inspired by Rob's Ommi's Halloween. He was clearly

(30:59):
inspired by a Halloween resurme then. So I'm just so
happy I have a new best friend who loves because
you know, I've reviewed that twice a movie Dumpster and
my channel and Casey and Tim didn't like it as
much as me anyway, So some things I really related
to in this movie, especially with the little I don't

(31:21):
know why I relate to a little boy, but family
interrupting a live stream. Like when I first started like
live streaming down here, like years ago, they would coming
to be like, hey, can you pause that. I'm like,
that's not I'm trying to entertain at that time, twelve people.
I'm like, I'm trying to entertain twelve people right now,
which that kid's like, yeah, twelve hundred, I'm like some
of the bitch. That kid pulling in bigger numbers than me.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
There was a big debate on the number of people
that he was going to be streaming to. We're like,
we wanted to be significant ish, but like not like
this kid is you know what I mean. So it
was like, okay, where do we So that's what we said.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
He pulling in twelve hundred regularly because then.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's just he says, this is the most I've ever had.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, I love that relationship, and then too, I did too,
And there was a lot that we pulled from, like
the act the lead actor, Charles Edwin Powell's life and
my own life, and like, uh, it was we wanted
to just feel genuine and real, and you know, he
said when he read the script, he compliments He's like,
there's a lot of things that sounded.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Like it was coming out of my own house. And
what's cool about him is we didn't want Kevin. This
is kind of an aside, who's the son. We didn't
want Kevin to just be this tag along character to
the dad. So a lot of times we threw Charlie
did it. You know, he gave his lines to Kevin,
and I think that that worked so much too, because
Kevin was kind of onto it before everybody else was,

(32:41):
you know what I mean. He was the one that was,
you know, technologically advanced. He was the one that was
being more observant, you know. The dad was almost the
one that was along for the ride for a lot
of it in the beginning until he put it together.
And so that was really cool that Charlie. Most actors
want more lines, and Charlie was just saying, no, no, let's
give it to the kid.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Is he from was he in Terrifier? Was he the Serial?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yes? Yes, yes, that's how we met. So that's uh.
Wesley Holloway plays Kevin Keenan and he was that's how
we met him. And I was like, this kid's an
incredible actor, and was like he needs to do more.
And so when stream came along, you know, we were
you know, we auditioned him obviously, but it was a
no brainer. We knew we wanted him for it. Uh,
and he nailed it. And yes, he is the serial
kid commercial.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
He's given it us all in this one very good job.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I love when he's uh, he's recommending that he digitally
transferred the home video because I had to do that
with my family fears right right, which, by the way,
I like that the dad is still watching it in
his highight. What is that hi E tape? Yeah, that's
a high a tape, which means he's got one of
the last flat screens that have av cable connections. My
I had a TV die recently that had like component
in the Navy and like I gotta get converters.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah. Yeah, So there was a lot of thought that
we put into all of that tech stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I do. I do like that. The kid even points out,
He's like, I don't I think this was outdated when
you shot it? Was like because the kids aren't that old.
I'm like, man, he really has an upgrad How does
he still have tapes for ye?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, and that and it's so true. It's like that
was where he was like when we were maybe younger,
and it was like yeah, he's like you should.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know, yeah at that point cell phone cameras out.
But this guy is just like nap sticking to that.
I bought that camera. I'm taking my high eight camera
still works. I was shocked. I turned it on him,
like it's still a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
That's great. Okay, So we get to see our first kill,
which is with Denise Crosby, right or no, not Crosby Wallace.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Denise crosbils has short hair, right, I mixed them up.
Let me do that again. So D Snyder's in the
So we see our first kill.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
With d Wallace and then there's you know, there's a
guy installing cameras or whatever.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Where did the idea for the.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Plat actor was very tough to work with? The guy
put in the cameras in place?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
He was you know what, that's when you should have
stepped in and just did the part yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Right, if only I had thought to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
So where did the idea for the plague doctor look
come from? Because that's like a very specific thing like skulls.
You know, you've seen that before, but it's like, no,
that's like a that was a choice.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, it was. It was multiple reasons why that was picked,
one of which I was really into the look of
the Poughkeepsie tapes and there's a there's a there's a
thing a mask in there. It's a masquerade mask for
but it's got this really pointy nose, and I'm like,
you know, there was something creepy about it, and I

(35:39):
was trying to say, you know, it just stuck with me.
So when it came time to do Lockwood's mask, I
just kept saying this pointy nose, this pointy nose. And
then also, you know, obviously the plague mask. You know,
I kept kind of assimilating that to the pit boss,
the person running the whole operation, the doctor of the game,
you know, and that kind of kept coming into my head.

(36:00):
And then it was also like it's old, but it
could also be new, especially when the pandemic was coming
around and COVID. It was like this, it was a
lot kind of going on with all of that when
we designed it. And then you know, it was also
kind of like this everyone talks about horror gore stuff
is torture porn rights, so we were like, oh, maybe
we put them in like leather and like, you know,
there's kind So it was a lot of different layers

(36:21):
to like why we chose that. And then again we
modernized something that was old, and that was the whole thing.
It was like taking something old Slashers right, seventies and
eights and turning into something new. We modernized with the
led lights. It takes something old, the plague Doctor and
all of that stuff, and then modernize makes something new.
And now we has the leather beak, the white beak.
It used to be black with the eyes that light up.
So there was a lot of these different layers and

(36:42):
elements that I think why that came to be.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I love it. The plague doctor thing is really creepy.
Whenever you see like what was a haunting a black
man or had a plague.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Doctor goes, there's something about it that's just unsettling.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, I don't know, it's weird to think like back
then you're like, oh, yeah, there's the doctor, and now
look back you're like that's horrifight.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, it's like the grim Reaper's coming in.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay. A lot of mentions of Pennsylvania in this Where
was this movie.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Shot Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Uh yeah, So originally the script was
actually in Florida. It was they were driving. They were
doing the standard drive from New York down to like
Disneyland or something or they were That was the whole thing,
and it was driving down to Florida. But when we
got the location, it was a resort, an old resort
in Gettysburg, and we didn't want to make it Gettysburg,

(37:31):
but you know, somewhere in Pennsylvani keep it a little
more vague. So then we changed a lot of the
dialogue and and things like that. Also, it made sense
just their travel, like if they're coming from like New
York and you know they're stopping off here. So it
just kind of all fell into places to why it was.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And he changed that ahead of time because it would
have been funny. They're all in Hawaiian.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, we changed we did. We changed that head. It's funny. Originally,
so Jeff Combs had read the script when it was
in Florida, and we were toying with the idea of
like does he put on like this southern accent but
it's not that good? And he was like, you know,
he's because he was like, you know, because he's putting
on an act. So like we were talking with that,
but then we're like, maybe it's too confusing, and then

(38:09):
when it changed to Pennsylvani, it's like, all right, really
what you know? Accent it's not as you know, just disparaged,
sparring disparaging as as as a Southern accent would have been.
So we just kind of dropped it.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
But yeah, quick question about Jeffrey Combs one and what's
your favorite Jeffrey Comebs role?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Mister Lockwood and stream Now? So I love obviously, I
love him in in Reanimator, right, but I really really
appreciate him in a film called Would You Rather. I
don't know if anybody's ever seen it, Pretty Snow. I
think he's incredible and I love that film. My brother
introduced me that movie. Also The Frighteners. I mean, he's

(38:50):
so quirky in The Frighteners, So, I mean, like, I
just love how he approaches all of these different characters
and makes them really unique.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I uh. One, I love him in Faust.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Okay, have you ever seen Faust?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I have not, so you know, it was funny everyone
calls Faust a Spawn rip off, but the comic actually
pre date Spawn, but the movie was made after the
Spawn movie. No, I love him like Castle Freak and everything.
Ye cast Yeah, yeah, great actor. I have to ask
because he is a hotel clerk in this and he

(39:26):
was a hotel clerk.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
And I still know what you did last summer? Was
that intentional?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah? I mean again, there's just some of the crossovers. Yeah,
it again the character was written before jeff had had
taken on the role, but yes, there was obviously like
oh and this is like a cool little nod to that.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
It is funny because not a lot of people remember
the specific specifics of I still know you did last summer,
especially people made the new movie. Uh, they just forgot
that movie existed, by by the way, by, by the way,
by the way lies. Uh, Mike, I've met two people
who actually liked the new I know he did last summer,
and it's both girls on this show Casey and Lard.

(40:05):
Both of you are like, I really liked it. Like
I haven't met a single.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Person I have not seen it yet, so you can
remain neutral, right, Okay, But.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's funny because Jeffrey Combs that he's like a dick
to everyone. He's really mean, they're kind of suspicious of him,
and then he just like gets killed. He was in
his time. This is the reverse where he's really nice
to everyone, He's really good, and.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
That's conscious, and that was conscious as it further went along.
And then we were also trying with that. It's like
do we want to have the wink that it's jeff
because he audience you know, sees him and they go art,
he's the bad guy. How do how do we play this?
You know what I mean? So that was a lot
of conversation dialog, not.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Always the bad guy. I believe he was the good
guy in the short lived Aliens Interactive Rise.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Here you Go.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
That was the thing that existed. There was like an
alien's ride that was like it was like a theater
thing that you got in that shook, and I think
Jeffrey Combs was the hero, like the Colonial Marine.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
And it was no, I don't know where it was
exactly that.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
You can watch the video on YouTube like, wait, is
that is that Herbert West?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
This most funny?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Can I ask a question? Yeah, it's actually a comment.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
So I heard I listened to your episode on talk
on Talk scary to me, and it just sounded where
you guys stayed and how the arrangements were. It just
sounded like the ideal, like filming oh experience.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
It was perfect. I mean, first of all, I've never
done a film where you roll out of bed and
you open your door and then the set is right there.
And then because it was during COVID and nobody was
really in the hotel for the most part, I mean
they they broke some rules that we found out later
on that they weren't supposed to do, which interrupted filming
a little bit. But for the most part, we were

(41:43):
loan so we were able to leave lights hanging and
tripods out, and obviously we take the cameras in and
the important stuff, but like you know, that was cool.
So that also helped. And we were also living in
the space that this movie was taking place, and so
it was really creepy and added to like the horror vibes.
I mean, this was the dead of winter, so I
remember there was a blizzard outside for one of the stuff,
Like there was a shot we cut from the movie

(42:05):
with tailors coming down the hall and it's this glass hallway,
same hallway that Tim Reid and Charles Edwin Power coming down.
It snowed that day and it's dark. We have like
darkening everything, but you could see if you lighten everything up.
We cut the shot, but there was a blizzard. I'm
talking like it's gotta be like spy feet of snow,
like it was again middle of Gettysburg whatever. It was

(42:26):
probably only three feet of snow, but it was a lot.
It was so so much snow that it was around
the time the Super Bowl. I'm a big Tampa Bay
Buccaneers man. They were in the Super Bowl that year,
and I was gonna leave set. We had like a
week off. I was gonna fly down to Florida for
the Super Bowl come back, got snowed in. We couldn't leave.
Me and my brother were devastated. But our crew, because

(42:46):
again we were all quarantined together and everything. They threw
us a huge Super Bowl party in the lobby of
the hotel and then we got fined for set Super
super Bowl from the hotel. No, it was great, big TV.
So like, that was a nice moment.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'm sure your cast and crew appreciated.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, yeah, I like, uh the moment with Daniel Harris
and the daughter in the.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Uh what you're called the the bar area.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Uh, it's just because I remember my mom doing the
same thing. She's like, look, I know you're gonna drink.
Could you just not get drunk or anything? And then,
by the way, I wasn't even drinking. She just thought
I was gonna drink all of high school. Like, no,
wait till college. We should have this conversation in college.
But I thought that was like a very real, like
the mother daughter relationship is pretty organic, I feel like.
And in that scene is Dave Sheridan, Uh, who I

(43:36):
think we both worked with. Right, Yeah, how did you
enjoy working with Dave Sharon?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Oh, Dave's great, Dave's Dave's funny. I mean there was
so much I mean between Dave and even Danny Roebuck
and Felice Rose, like the three of them because they
have a big comedic background as well. Uh, there was
so much material that we had that we just had
to like cut a lot of it. You know. There
was another scene with Dave Sheridan at the bar with
the daughter, like there was a there was a whole

(44:01):
nother scene. Again we had to like, let's get to
the horror right, and uh where he's hitting on her,
and it was kind of funny because then when he
comes to hit on the mom, there's like this little parody.
He's like, Oh, this guy just doesn't care in front
of him, and then he's hitting on Danny Roebuck, you know.
And so that was fun and and Dave gave us
a lot to work with. And he's just a super cool,

(44:22):
super down to earth, really chill, nice guy. And that
was what was I loved about all everybody in our cast.
You know, we really had a great time making this movie.
A lot of laughs.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
He was a he was like an actor on a
prank show I used to work on on CMT. He
had bass Masters show. I used to be used to
be the YouTube guys at bass Master's cameraman. He got
a TV show and we had like this whole like
production meeting. He was like one of the actors like
for the pranks. But I didn't know, like I knew
who Dave Sharon was. I didn't realize it was him.
So he like came in like kind of in character,

(44:51):
like making like weird comments and weird faces, and I'm
just like, who's this guy that's in here and he
was just on constantly and eventually I.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Was like, oh wait, you're a hit.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I know who you are.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
He should be in Scary Movie six. They've got to
bring them back.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I agree, I slardely agree they should. He's awesome.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
But that scene, Danielle's performance, I think, yeah, this is
one of her most strong like one of her strongest performances.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
It felt so natural for her. Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm sure she would love to hear that. I agree.
I think she was great. I think she you know,
and that was the reason why she wanted to do
the movie too. She was at the time a new
mom and she's never really been offered the mom roles before,
you know what I mean, she was always she was
the kid, and then she was the teen, and then
she's like this badass you know, just woman in general
in the film. So now this was a chance to like,
let her be a mom, let her be real, very organic,

(45:40):
but also still have you know, not only a soft side,
but a stern side, and you know, moms could be
badass kicked out and you know, and she was all
for it. And how do you not cast Danielle Harris
in that role? So she's someone who's transcended, you know
what I mean, Like it's hard like to have a
child actor than to kind of go and every point
in her life she's just ill kicking ass and and

(46:02):
and doing it and absorbing it and you know, fits
all those roles. So that's a really great thing to her.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yes, I used to go to her fitness studio in
La She had her own fitness studio.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Isn't that cool?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
And this is a little off topic, but on the
podcast that you said you worked with Scout like you
were in something with her.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Penance Lane. So that was a movie called Pennis Lane.
We played. We played a boyfriend and girlfriend in it.
I was abusive boyfriend and uh, we had a couple
of scenes together. My father was Danny Roebuck, who was
the sheriff of the town Nice and that's how I
met Danny. And yeah, we worked on that film together
and that was fun and then we you know, remained friends.
She's sweet, she's great, she's awesome. I'm so happy what

(46:41):
she was doing. No, it was in Georgia we shot it,
and uh, and and and Scouts now directing stuff and
doing her own projects. So it's really cool to see
her journey.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You know, we know Daniel Roebuck as Satani.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
And the same character in Terrifire three.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Well, that's okay, that's we went. We went to the
drive in Shank Whiler's drive in, and we joked about
while we were there, like I'd be funny if like
he's the same character and then like the same drive
in like weeks later like double feature Terrifier three and
satan Nick and Bethel have and I'm like, we're like.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh, st Nick was first, because then then it leads
right into he So.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
He leaves sense.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
The parade and then he goes then he goes to
uh to the bar.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Well, I learned to love again. Let me go celebrate
at the bar. Hope a clown doesn't show. Okay, So
the Killers in this movie, when did you decide you
wanted the Killers to be silent? And how many of
their mannerisms and whatnot were dictated by the script and
how much of that was just then like well you
know the different like jest.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, what was the first part?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Well, when did you decide to make them like completely silent?
Because they're just like regular dudes. They can talk, they
when they.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Did, yeah they do. Like again, we were like, okay,
there are humans, you know, and sorry, yeah, there are humans.
So we're like, you know, and even player too, which
is David awer Thorton, he screens when he goes on. Yeah,
you know that whole thing. I don't want to spoiler,
but yeah, so you know, obviously there was that, but
we just felt that that's part of and this will

(48:16):
be revealed in the sequel and things, but that's part
of the rules of the game. You can't engage and things,
and we'll see how that kind of goes. But that
was something where we just felt it was more creepy
to have them silent because you don't know what's behind
the mask, you know, and that's a lot in any slasher.
It's like who's behind there, what do they look like,
what do they sound like? You know, and that kind
of removes a little bit of the human element slightly.

(48:38):
So that was pretty early on we decided that. But
their mannerisms was a mix of script and a mix
obviously of just who they are. We did say, again
paying homage to some of these films, like all right,
we want Player one to be more of this kind
of like generic, you know this Lenk Bass kind of
Michael myers s kind of killer, you know, the brute,
the bigger guy was like, okay, he's your Jason VOI's

(48:59):
your Victor Crowley, your your leather face, you know. Dave's character,
Player too, was your lanky you know kind of maybe
he's like a Freddy Krueger. Maybe he's like an Art
the clown, you know, kind of wiry kind of clown,
you know. Yeah, And we tried. I'll tell you this
though we tried to. We did. And this is a
thing to David is he did want to separate them.

(49:20):
And how he did that is in his mind. Player
one was more fluid in his movements. He was more
like dancy, like showy. You know, where's Arth the Clown. Yes,
he is showy, and obviously, I mean it's hard to
when it when somebody plays the characters, right, There's only
so much your body can do. But I just know
that that was a discussion. He said, he's going to

(49:42):
be a little bit more fluid in his movements, whereas
Arth the Clown is not as fluid, and he was
going to be more showy and like how he gestures things,
and it was like a dancer kind of vibe, less
of a clown. Obviously, you know, there are correlations. It's
the same actor playing it. But and then the girl
that was.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
My joke, by the way, that wasn't a credit. What
was the joke is that like he was like Art
the Cloud because it literally, no, it literally.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Is Art the Clown. Yeah, yeah, but you know, and
I get it, you know, but there was you know,
discussions with that as well. And then obviously the girl,
uh player three, who I love as well. I think
she did a great job, especially playing off of David.
You know, that's not an easy thing to come in
and do, and and she shined. And she's an incredible
actress and she's also a model and uh, you know,

(50:24):
wonderful person. But you know, there was some Harley Quinn there. Yeah,
of course, you know. So again it was kind of
like taking what we all know and love and then
kind of flipping it on its head or adding to
it or changing it slightly to where it becomes unique
and new and different. They should sell her mask, yeah
where where they should call it? No, you know what
it was we it was his was such the base

(50:44):
of like, okay, because they're all the same masks, and
then they kind of, you know, stylized them to their
own personality. So it was like, okay, let's just go
with the bass mask. And then a lot of the fans,
believe it or not, who've been getting them, they've been
putting either the lipstick on them themselves funny or you know,
you can totally different. They're customizing it, which I thought
would be some of the fun of you know, giving

(51:05):
the masks, uh, you know, selling the masks. I should
customize mine, making something crazy. Who knows, Maybe we'll use
it the sequel.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Before the movie came out, Scare Pros had everything and
I think you guys did signings there.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, Scare Prost is great. They've been so supportive. I
heard somebody say one time, this is like the first
movie that's like not even out yet, and like people
are buying Merge like you know, which was which is
really great. You know, Chris over there, everybody's Scare Pros
really was so supportive of the whole thing. And now
obviously we're doing more and more with it all and
it's expanded, like the Blu Raye DVD. He's got them.

(51:39):
They're also an Amazon in Walmart. For anybody who's not
in the area of scare pros.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So happy we're a film hub.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah it is. It's great, and you know, so it's
and again digital all over the place. So if anybody
who hasn't seen.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
It, okay, So I know it's common to say that, uh,
you know, actors had fun on the set, but Jeffrey
Combs looked like he's really having fun on especially the
scene where he's killing Oswald. Yeah, he just looks like
he's having so much fun.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
How much was that probably a little too much fun?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (52:08):
I just love where he like the guy's crying, he goes.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Listen to reason, I'm good. Oh please God.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
He's just totally we really, we really did, and Jeffrey
really That's why I truly believe this is and I've
told jeff this. I think it's it's top three performances
from him, if not definitely top five. Yeah, definitely top
five and after fouls but of course yeah, maybe not
top six, So you know, and he was And I
think part of it too was just the obviously the

(52:43):
atmosphere that we that we provided the script kind of
lends itself to you can be a little fun and
the character you can be somewhat campy. But but I
think also it was the time I think where you
just needed to escape where there was so much craziness
that was going on in the world with COVID, and
this was so such an escape to go and play
and do something that we love and create. We were

(53:04):
one of the first movies to get greenlit to do
by SAG and there's still no there was no vaccines out,
there was no none of that stuff. It was still
you know, wash your hands, wear your mass, social distance.
And now we're making a movie again in isolated area.
So that's why we're able to do it. But I
think being on set, like once we were in there
and the doors were closed, like we forgot about every Sorry,

(53:24):
we forgot about everything. And I think that's another thing
it was it was an avenue of just release and
an outlet for everyone.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah uh yeah, he was. He really kind of stole
the show there. But speaking of steeling the show, Dana Roebuck,
he's also having.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
A lot of fun. Did he improv a lot of
those lives?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
He did? Okay, it felt like it was there was
a lot of improv some was there obviously for him
to to base it off of, and then obviously Danny's
a great improv master machine. Comedy is his strong suit,
and especially the stuff between Felicia and Danny. When she goes,
he goes, these are my friends, okay and my friend
she goes, No, they're not your friends. You're embarrassing me

(54:03):
right now, Like all that stuff was just between the
two of them. Was was just hysterical, and there's so
much more. I hated we had to cut it.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I wanted to say, I don't know why, but data
Roebuck and FeliCa Rose is a married couple really worked
for It.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Makes sense, right.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I'm like, I kind of want to see just a
movie about I know them.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
They're pitching hard to do like uh Lana and uh
like and like whatever, like mawered uh the brother and sister,
husband wife twins. I know it was it's you know
what it is. It's the couple we never knew we needed.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, for some reason, I'm like, I totally believe that
this is a couple.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
I feel like I've seen this couple out in the world.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Yeah, I knew she was in it, but then when
she came up screaming like, oh my gosh, it's Flissa.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I forgot about it. How many eyeballs were using this movie.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
There was a lot, There was a lot of eyews.
There was definitely at least four fake eyeballs for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Okay, well, you say you watch my show, and I
feel like you would be very aware of my horrible
eye injury phobia. And I think I need you on
record right now saying you will never do another eye
stabbing in any movie going forward.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Well, I think, Matt, We're just gonna have to do
double for you.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
It's just it was the one drill part. I'm like,
come on, man, yeah, come on, just like.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
How cool did it looks like I'm stabbing the boom.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
I made the mistake of being like, hey, guys.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I remember when you talked about that. I remember that
vividly stops.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
It ever stops. Why do you guys like doing.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Eye They're the worst? Like everybody everyone could feel it.
You you you go to your eye. You know, everyone cringes.
It's like the worst thing that could happen to.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Was it was a nine year animal.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Tooth picks in your fingernails is the brutal one.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
The fingernails make me cringe, but I actually did poke
my eyes so that one and I had the fear before.
How many live streams have you done? Have you ever
like man a live stream?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah myself? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah. One thing I think the movie was missing is
something going wrong with the live stream and Jeffrey Combs
be like, oh God, damn it, what's wrong with the
Internet's what's up? What's up? When the kid like hacked
into the thing, the first thing I would do is
just mess up their bit rate and everything? Was there
an idea to have like maybe something or was that
just like a little too realistic? Like have something going
wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (56:21):
So what we tried to do with that, and we've
talked about it. The reason was we we wanted to
make it like, Okay, this is a business that he's running.
This is so this has been tried and true before
over and over again. So that's why we kind of
got rid of the any of the live stream things happening.
Whereas the kid was we wanted to make him that
he was smart enough to backdoor it in by using
the you know, their encrypted Wi Fi and break through

(56:44):
the firewall and be like, this is a new thing
that's never happened before, and now they have to figure
that one out for the next one. So that's why
we didn't do it. Also, it was just again it
was a two hour movie, and it was like, you know,
how much longer do we make a slasher that everyone
expects to be an hour and forty thirty.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I'm just coming in from someone who has to live
stream frequently.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
I'm just like, mouth, this was an efficient live stream.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, always everything went.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Wrong, whereas me, I'm just like, your MIC's not on.
It switched to the other right, even come back?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, for time sake.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
So uh so, what is it? David Hawarthorn is player too?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Him and the girl team up and then he has
a girl sidekick and terrifier. Now I have not watched
a scream Boat yet. Is there a mouse girl sidekick
in that one? We need to I can a mouse
girl sidekick?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yes? And no? Yes and no? Sorry I hear, I
hear girl sidekick is no, not really, but you'll you'll
know why I'm saying yes and no to that, And
anybody who's who's seen screen Boat might know why I'm
saying that. Uh yeah, that was all coincidental. Actually, Okay, wasn't.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Because I'm sitting there. I'm like, I'm like, if I
turned that movie on, it like in the second act,
there's a little mouse girl like this is great.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
That's what I'm saying. Yes and no, I don't want
to spoil anything, but there is something that I think
you will do. This is great, but it's not there.
It's on It's just peacock, Peacock, peacock. It just it
just it just came out on peacock.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Speaking of when I did my notes, initially I wrote
stream boat and I'm like, oh, that's a mistake.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
I'm like, wait, if the second one is on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
All of must have done that. Yeah, it's too similar.
Stream scream stream screamboat.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, did she over there.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Read it? Unplugged the camera?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
She like only comes down here when we're recording the interrupt,
although lately she's been hanging out down here. I don't
know what her deal is. She knows if she gets
too close to me, I pick her up, So that's
why she's not getting too close. My favorite kill the
tic tac toe kill. But where did that idea come from?
That was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
That was the one I'm most proud of for sure,
because that was my favorite, definitely the most unique one
I think that we had come up with, you know, obviously,
like there's there's a few other ones that I like,
the way they came out, the way they were executed,
they feel great. There's like the bob Wire one, the
Drill one we talked about, but the Tic Tac Toe
was again we figured, Okay, we're playing a game. The

(59:15):
whole thing is a game that streamed. It's like, okay,
what is a game that's where it originated from that
we can kind of have some fun with and do
with and be in the spirit of. So it was
really early on that that was in the script and
I was like, I don't think I don't think it's
ever been done. I've never seen it, and I'm like
going through it and then I'm asking people. I asked Damien,
I asked so many and they were like, no, I've
never seen that. So that was one we were super
excited to do. Didn't know how the hell we're gonna

(59:36):
execute it. And then luckily enough you have Damian Leoni
and Phil Falcone who were able to bring it to life.
You know, it was funny Damien worked on a lot
of the live actors with it, and Phil you know,
did all the prosthetic dummy stuff, and I'm really proud
of him and he really brought it to life and

(59:57):
the two of them, and I'm really I love how
it came out. I hope you know you said it
was your favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
It was my favorite. Jo.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
I'm like, that's really clever.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
That's one of the ones that are talked about. And
I gotta say I'm a little disappointed Fangoria didn't didn't
give it any nomination or anything with the chainsaw Awards. Uh.
I thought for sure they might say something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Well, look at the at the next heck Haademy Awards.
I will I will give you best kill from a
Movie last year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
There you go. That's a good category.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
The best kill from a movie I missed out on
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
You know, as funny as is so the Fangory thing,
I didn't even think about it because obviously we were
nominated for Terror Fire and we were nominated for screen Boat,
and then it was the fans. There was like a
write in. A lot of fans were like messaging me
or emailing me or on social media whatever, and they
were saying we're writing in the tic tac toe and
I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. So you know
that was that was cool that they that they did that.

(01:00:52):
I wonder if we should have that most write in
I wonder if it won that Most Written in thing
that wasn't actually nominated. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I have a very important question here. How much can
player for bench? How do you think? I don't know, gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Be at least three fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Three, that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
I'm lifting up the thing. I'm like, I wonder how
much that guy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, he's strong, he's a big dude. He's a big dude. Great,
you know, it's funny, humble, calm, gentle, docile, giant, one
of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. It's usually right,
those those big dastards. My brother in law is like
a big dude and he's like so chill. It's just
so nice, you know, and it's like, why why do

(01:01:36):
you guys got to get that big?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, he's a great dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Real before we get into like some spoilerish territory, do
you have any last questions you want to ask before I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I'm sorry, Like my back is kind of trying to balance.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
So I'm going to get into some spoilersh territory.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
If that's okay. If you haven't seen stream, well, don't
turn this off. It'll hurt Reten. Should put this video
on mute. Keep it playing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
The thing, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Whenever whenever people say stop the thing, go watch like no, don't,
don't tell them to do it that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Keep watching. Watch, go watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Throw it, throw a towel or whatever over your screen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Minimize see.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
But yeah, check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You can. It's available video on demand and you can
get the Blu Ray like you said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Earlier, Blu Ray DVD and VHS and vhs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
You can go super Old.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
School and Collector's edition. We have blown the Dark tapes
nice yeah, Blue Edition and Green Edition.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
So some spoiler stuff here. The idea that Bernard was
a former player who joins the game. That reminded me
a little bit of the two volunteers in Battle Royale.
Uh where did that idea come from? Like a former
player wants to get back in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
You're talking about Tim, you were talking about that thing. Yeah,
it was just that he It was we wanted some
kind of twist thing where somebody had knowled of the
game was able to bet on the game, yeah, and
know the inner workings of it, you know, And it
was like, okay, you know, because how do you Obviously,
if this thing is going on and people are watching this,

(01:03:10):
there are other people that are betting and viewing and whatever,
so they know about it. So like, what would it
be if somebody who knew about this wanted to infiltrate
the game? How would that kind of play out? And
I think it also gave us the distraction with the
you know, he's trying to cheat, Like in games people
try to cheat, So that was like the big thing
of having a cheater and how could that be like that?
And that was the That was the start of the lact.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
So you have two endings. One suggests that the next
stream will be at a hospital and that starts the
late Tony Todd and then the other ending is in
the movie theater, which we talked about earlier with Bill
Moseley and Terry Kaiser and Tim Curry. Are either of
those locations you want to explore in the sequel or
are you thinking of a completely different location?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
So part of that was the reason to show the
two things, was to show that this is this game
is bigger than these players, than these characters, and to
show that there are multiple ones going on all at once,
like you know, that was kind of like our big
reveal of like, oh wow, this is bigger than this
isolation sorry, bigger than this isolated game. Yes, we do

(01:04:16):
want to explore them. The sequel is going to be
in a hospital. Sure it's going to follow the Tony
Todd route, but that's not to say we won't visit
what's going on and the other thing the movie theater.
We do have ideas for other locations. There are plenty
that you know, I'm sure that you can even think
of in your own minds where this can go. And

(01:04:37):
I think that's what makes this franchise potential and be
limitless and endless and keep it fresh. So there's a
lot of different locations we'd like to explore, but right
now we're gonna we're sticking with the hospitals. I think
it's a perfect setting of people that are trapped, can't
go anywhere, different ethnicities, races, ages, everything that you can

(01:04:58):
talk about all in one location that is way to die. Yeah,
and really creepy, eerie setting. So it lends itself to it.
So we're gonna we're gonna go that route for sure,
and we're gonna pay homage and tribute to Tony as
well in a way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
That's nice. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Hospital And the last thing I just really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I love that my local Halloween Stories sponsoring the murder game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I see Scare pros, Grim Scare Pros. Yeah, that was
really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
That was funny.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
But like in the real world of like, no, don't,
don't put my logo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Don't sponsor, and now the best brought to you probably.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Would be I'd sign off not knowing what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
What is it game? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Sure, but again it was to show that business element
of it, right and again it's it's a movie to
have some fun with. And you know that's cool that you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I guess that's all my questions for stream. You don't
have anything yet or you still thinking question you already did? Okay,
I have I have a request here, yes, for dream too.
I just really think I should be one of the players.
And it would be okay if I audition for you
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Sure you let's see it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Okay, Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I got the mask and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
I have the mask. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be blown
them off.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
Okay, I'm player for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I got big muscles and I'm gonna punch you good.
I think that's just talent you can't ignore. I think
I think you have a future. I think you have
a future. I'm glad you feel that way, because what.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
The future is I'm not sure, but there's a future.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Well, I hope you don't mind. I I want to
audition for another movie. Yes, I I think you are
doing a terrifier.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
I think there will be a terrifier for David Howardthor
And he's he's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Very he's very busy these days. I want to come
back as Art the Clown. So if you don't mind,
I'm gonna throw.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
My another audition. Great, good, good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
You know I think I have what it takes to
take up the Art the Clown mantle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Okay, let's see it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I think you're really going to be impressed by this.
All right, here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
I'm Art the Clown.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Hong Hong uh. I got a bag full of weapons
and I'm gonna stab you. I I I really feel
like I became the cast.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Think it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Will you send that to Damien?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I will. We'll make sure Damien sees this. Thank you, Well,
we'll get it over to him. I think I have
one more, another edition.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I don't have a Saint Patrick's Day thing. Okay, well,
I notice you want to do this Leprechaun movie. Yes,
and it's cool you got Linden Porko to be in it.
But listen, listen, man, this is twenty twenty five. Get
with the times. We get average sized people to play
little people. We live in a world where Hugh Grant
is an oopa lupa. Okay, all right, so I want

(01:07:50):
to audition be the Leprechaun. Okay, I'm the Leprechaun. I'm
gonna shine your shoes and bite you and use magic.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Word because he's the word.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
What do you think, I think, I think the I
think there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
There if you look, if you want to know my resume,
I was an uncredited extra that you can't see very
well in the dark Knight Rises. I I think I
have what it takes. I think I have what it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Takes, and I think you do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I think you want to kill anyone else on the
show Feel Free.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Casey was in Victor. She survived Victor Crowley.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Okay, that's great, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
How did you get out of that one? You know,
I survived Baine.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Blowing up a football fields or Crowley.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
If you I think player or whatever can kill us
or I could be the player you think I've uh,
I think I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I like that idea.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
So everyone, what are your socials? So all my fans
can tell you that they want me in these things?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yes, uh so company the big one really the usual
is at Fuzz on the Lens and that's you could
find everything from there. For stream, it's at Streame Franchise.
For me, it's changed at Mike Levy now change that
it used to be something else. And yeah, check out
our stuff for sure if you like it. We are
trying to hopefully do the next leper Khn if possible.
I wanted to put our hat in the ring. So
if anybody knows lions Gate or Blummehouse, whoever owns the

(01:09:13):
rights of that nowadays, just hashtag Levy f lepper Khahn
at them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
And bit aside.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
If you get that, I will be on your ass
to get into a leper Con.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
I will be relentless. You'll have to lock me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I'll be with you. I don't know. It depends last
one didn't do the last one they had sci Fi
did the last one, right, so it's all the matter.
But lions Gate owns the hole and then they know
license it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Ever, well, I still have theories of w W really
made a leper cone about goblins in Ireland? Anyway? Then
we reviewed that to die well, that was that was
one crusis of like the other movie just did that?
You killed that show? What's funny about? Actually, I'm glad
you brought that up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I love this so Okay, we actually had in I
wanted to keep this thing short, and we we did
shoot that the Returns movie was his constant nightmare and
vision recurring that he had had, so we did keep
it cannon. But then I just felt I really liked
the filmmakers of Returns and I liked Returns, and I

(01:10:16):
didn't want to take it make it like it was
a jab or anything like we're saying that your movie
was a dream. So we had it in there as
a Leprechaun fan to keep it cannon. But then I
also thought it might be too confusing, so I says,
you know what, let's just do the Halloween thing wipe
the slate clean and just kind of tell this story
of this is how I would have done it if
I was hard and for a fan film. Again, we

(01:10:39):
have so many ideas, and I have a few in
particular that I would love to pitch to them that
if I put it in this short, then it's out
there and everyone knows. It's just like this was the
safest way of kind of doing it. But we did
release because there was a few people. One of the
sequences where Ozzie is having the vision and it flashes
back or in his head of this nightmare that he's
having of his death in returns and again that was

(01:11:01):
like his worry that the Leprechaun is going to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Well, like I said, my theory with all the movies
is it's a different Leprekaan He's time.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
It just looks like yeah, yeah, actually not too long.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I did review the the comic book The Leprechaun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Did you did you check out that video?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Oh so one of the Leprechauns was in Leprechaun World
and fought God.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
It was like a medieval fan It was medieval.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, the King and yeah, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Just sitting there like he doesn't really kill anyone. He's
finding like wizards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, and he's like good, but he's not. It was
and it was his name. They named him Lou Lou
loved loved in. It's kind of confused, which is funny
because now that's what they're most fans, right They called
the Leprechaun loved In right throughout. But then I saw
an interview Mark Jones where they had I can't remember
what it was. There was a different name than they

(01:11:47):
had originally thought it was gonna be, but then never
ended up using I remember what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
But yeah, but yeah, I'm excited we make this happen.
How can we help? I'll give help. The director of
LEPrecon two on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Up sharing the Leprechaun thing, you know, share it, reach
out to you know, tag them lions Gate, Blumhouse, whoever
has it, and then uh, you know, also I think
what helps is is our other projects, like stream more
people seeing that, getting it out there, because then that
kind of puts you on a level where you know,
they start to take notice and then they see so

(01:12:24):
and it all helps.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Stream two lines around the Block when they find out
Tony from Hack the Movies is the new player for
it because it's a bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Well, that's you know something we also do want in
a serious note, we do want to because now with
the first movie, it was kind of like this slow
burn in the beginning where you're discovering it's almost like
a mystery, right, But now I'm super excited that we
can jump right in to this one where everybody understands
this is what it is. You can go and do
some creative you know those shots and those camera shot
right off the bat, and we're looking to include you know,

(01:12:52):
different podcasters and YouTube like really open it up too.
So you're you're you're onto something here to where we
can partner with a lot of people to make it
real and like you know, bring up you know those
kinds of people into the film.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
So awesome, awesome, So you heard it here first, I
am the new player for and Clown and the Leprechaun.
I can't believe it. What an amazing announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
A great day.

Speaker 5 (01:13:13):
It's a great day for me. It's a great day for.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Me and horror cinema, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Cinema just in general. When you win the Oscar for
stream too, right, you're gonna bring me up. You're like,
I couldn't have done it without Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
You did it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
No, for real, I will be in Leprechaun. I will
be relentless.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Anyway if we get it. If we get it, we'll
figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Casey, where can we find you before we sign up?

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
You can find me on Instagram at Casey the Final Girl.
I'm so close to five k people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Come on and yes, like share, subscribe, sign up for
Patreon even if it's at the free tier, because you
still get the public podcast feed, links to the YouTube
and whatever version of it so you can find it.
And uh yeah, we got a lot of fun stuff
on Patreon. I'm planning some stuff for October that I time.

(01:14:09):
This recording we haven't done yet. We gotta do that.
We gotta think of a Halloween I don't even have
a Halloween episode planned.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Halloween Town.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
No, no, after under Wraps, we're never ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Ever Yeah, of course, of course. And my my dad's
a vampire, right, all those ones those channel movies.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, guy begged me for four years to do under Wraps.
He left multiple comments on the same video.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Did he rip you apart once you did it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
No, that's the only video he never commented on. He
started commenting on other videos and I'm like, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
I gave you your wish. I did a whole episode
for you, which didn't do well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
By the way, can you guys go back and watch
that actually? And he literally responded, He's like, I just
don't want to believe it's over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Wow, that's insane. I'd watched the Halloween Town one the
other wrap one was like, is that's an obscure one.
But I commend you for listening to you fans and
doing it. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
No, because now other people are trying to recommend the
same thing over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
I'm like, no, that guy killed it for all of you.
I killed it for all of you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
But you know what it might It might remind Like
what I find what's cool about is it might what
they say something. It might trigger you to be like,
oh yeah, I would have done that one on my own.
I just forgot about it. Maybe okay, so I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Know, but yeah, follow us there and uh yeah, that's
it for us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Goodbye.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Remember to like, comment, and subscribe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
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