The Ghost And The Darkness Is A Lion-Fueled Thrill Ride! - Hack The Movies (#413)

Today we are diving into The Ghost and the Darkness to determine if it's the manliest hunting movie ever made! We'll explore the film's suspense and the terrifying reality of the Tsavo lions. Join Movie Dumpster and I as we review this 90s classic!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, Tony from Mack Movies here today we're talking
about the ghost and the darkness. Is this the manliest
hunting movie ever? Let's find out today on Hack the Movies.
What's up movie Dumpster Boys?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's going on you little hack man? It's going to
be back, dude.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's great for you guys to be back. It's Boys Month.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we're the mainless male Lions.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, mainless mae.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Right, the real ones. Yeah, the we're hacking the dumpster.
We finally made the Boys Month. You're finally let through
the fucking game.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Actually, we crashed through the game a couple Indian ghosts.
We knocked Joey c over to the side.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Shit, sorry Joey.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
At the time of this recorded, I don't know if
Joey c made it into Boys Month.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
There you go, that's why that's what happened. We're demons,
say we're devils exactly. Movie do get the fuck out
of the way.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm just kidding. Maybe me and Joey were supposed to
do Twist the Metal season two, but I didn't realize
it was weekly. So I'm like, Joey, I'll work you
into one of the live episodes act so at the
time of this recording, maybe he did twenty eight Days
trilogy with me and Gil. I don't know if he
did go watch tuned so yes, the Ghost and the Darkness.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Or Patrick Swayze in the Darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I don't own a copy of the movie and I
didn't have enough. Tell me I have it. I should
have brought it. In the future. Just bring it, okay,
the future, Just bring it. That's what Tim does. He
just brings the bring it.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I saw you got his cool Val Kilmer mug that
I saw at his place, and now instead of at
my place, you'll never see that Carnistore clock man, all
these visual jokes.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Listen. I didn't even know you wanted that. He just
he was a Christmas gift. Anyway, I give it to
my wife anyway. Yes, the late Val Kilmer.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh my god, and watching this U made me sad
because I was like, damn, he's so fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm not gonna be a It's been a sad year
at Hacker Movies. We keep reviewing movies, and then people
from the movies keep dying after we shoot the episodes,
curseck the movie, and then I have to add them
so what was it, Gene Hackman, Michael Madsen, There was
like one or two others.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Unfortunately, Actually movie Dumpster A was our fall for Valcilmer
because you actually came on for the doctor Moreau, which
I think he was actually channeling that character in this movie.
I'm not sure what came out first.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But did did like did like an old man by
the side of the road, like rub your cheek.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Ahead the movie Delsa dale Roso was there smiling playing
piano PI.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
But really it's been like a number of times I'm like, man,
this is let's be coming to tredout like this. So
now so recipes Valkilmer and recipes anyone who's in this
movie who dies between now and when it airs recipes.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
And the hundreds of victims taken by the Savo man
eaters or what is it like twenty the real count?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Okay, Yeah, so this is based off John Patterson's autobiographical
thing in Man Eaters of Savo. It's a true truth.
It's pretty true story.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well here's the truth, not the obviously the movies in Bellish.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, probably some Thirteenth Warriors stuff like HTRO But how
fucking that was made up?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
By Michael kra It's not umbellished, it was a bell.
It's not quite blood Sport fake right, but.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, I know it's like Texas chainsaw Master, right, where
like a Gean was a real guy.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, but it's not how it happened. No, no, no,
so yeah, the man Eaters of Savo is a real
event that happened. There were two mainless apparently. A lot
of my lines are mainless, especially that region.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Specifically Savo, because of the weather, Like the climate is
it's so fun. It's like one of the hottest parts
of Kenya apparently, and the way that they maneuver in
the terrain there. Yeah, all those thickets that we see
in the movie, like that's part of the actual Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, but no they talk about how like some lines,
like a lot of lines do just have scanty mains,
not every single one has the most bushiest main.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Ever, I read that the more just osterone a lion has,
the biggerest main is. Now, why the fuck do people
the more testosterone we have, the less fucking hair we get?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't get. Yeah, those people will be like one
of these girl lions, And if they were, we went
and reviewed it because boys.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean female lines would have been trying to bite
some male lines not sad, so we could have gotten mad.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
At least do lionesses are fucking way more badass. They're
the hunters got his boys?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
What are you doing? Strike down from the record, Strike
from the record. I mean, I have a reputation to
up hold here as the most masculine reviewer all.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Definitely don't mention the female t Rex and all the
Jurassic Park movies definitely don't bring that.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, I don't know somebody who lift up all the
dinosaur skirts.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So yes, they went with main lines for the movie.
So people will be like, that's what a boy lion
looks like, that's what a lion looks like. Yeah, okay,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
My book on Africa looks it looks like.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
So the true story was that there were these two
lines that were attacking the workers there. No one will
ever come down on an actual number because like I
think you said it was around twenty something, but I
think they were only keeping records of like I think
the Indian workers that they hired. It might have killed
more people, probably not hundreds, but I.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Probably thirty five tony They say it the end.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, well, that makes a lot of sense, because some
were right off and some were sleepy.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah yeah, Okay, you see the movie, they're all from
all over. Although people were making the best records of everything,
not an actual person. That's probably something which were we
responsible for. Okay, we're not gonna count. Uh so Yeah,
the number of how many they killed is all over
the place. Why they're killing has still been debated. There
could have been a shortage and their natural food supply

(05:44):
because they they were also killing you know, like cal
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yes, there's also the background which they never actually unless
I missed it going to that they're literally building a
fucking railroad track through their kill zone.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah that's so. Maybe that had to cow together hunting.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
But like that, that is like a weird thing where
like they were like targeting like humans more so than
you not like that doesn't happen, but it was weird
that these two were doing it so much.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Like some crocodile movie, Yeah, rogue or something like that
comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
What was strange.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think the biggest uh anomaly the whole thing was
like they usually like they usually don't hunt like that, Yeah, right,
especially the male lions.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, that was like a weird thing. Say it
was like this weird phenomenon that happened with these particular lions. Uh,
but yeah, then they just like shot them. I don't
think it was as elaborate. I haven't read the book,
but I don't think it's as elaborate as.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
The John So spoilers. There's no Remington in the story.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh yeah, the movie gets to it. Michael Douglas is
totally made up for the movie.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
But John shot them both and killed them both and
saved the railroad for the White Man.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
On Wikipedia, I think I read it, he said like
he shot the second one like nine fucking times wwie
in the chest and wanted the brain to finish it off.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Like why could you just shoot in the fucking brain.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
There is one theory where they said one lion's tooth
was broken it might have been hard for him to
hunt his actual prey. But then apparently John says he
broke it by hitting it in the face of the rifle.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
And then online it says something about like it had
the dental work of them were malformed from eating people,
like changing their diet.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
To me, Yeah, there wasn't a zombie lion. No, no
one knows, but like, if you want to see them,
as the movie says at the end, they are at
the Chicago Field Museum. But yeah, apparently he kept their
skins and their skulls and then I guess they put
them back together. Well, their skulls are on display, but
I guess they taxi journeyed them afterwards. That's how it works.
But there were a bunch of movies named after based
on this. I forgot to write all their names down.

(07:38):
I didn't know it. Yeah, the only one to stick.
They're like old, like African adventure movies were like the
fifties and stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Just let me just bring it up. Let me just
bring it up.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Be careful though, because if you go to the Museum
of Natural History in Chicago, Cathoga is going to fucking
bite your head off on the toilet.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, the movie, skipping ahead to the end,
it does turn into a commercial for the Field Museum.
But is the of us who have seen the relic.
I'll never step foot in that.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Hell and listen with Penelopy and Miller, then you can
help me out.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't know. Cathogo's pretty big for the one, if
that's what you want to. Yeah, I looked up the
thing and it wants me to read all four hundred
and twenty pages. No, here we go. Uh, don't click.
In pop culture, in film nineteen fifty two, Men against
the Sun shot on location in Kenya, this one wasn't.

(08:28):
This one was shot in South africause somewhere Wana Devil
from nineteen fifty two, Killers of Kilimanjaro from nineteen fifty nine. Wait,
so they had two separate movies based off this in
nineteen fifty two and then nineteen fifty nine, and then
they waited until nineteen ninety six to do this one.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I wonder why I got it was so hot around then?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Did I guess? I mean it's a true story again,
like jungle adventure books were big like the turn of
the century, and this is a real guy who did it,
so that made it even more cooler.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
And there was definitely like that pocket, like that twenty
year pock you're from, like the thirties to like the fifties.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I feel like it's like, oh, we can gout lions
and tigers and movies.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
How cool thist is? Yeah, some stunt person's getting their
fucking face.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Before we go full Western Yeah, yeah, so yeah. This
was written by William Goldman, who wrote Butchcassidy and The
Sun Dance Kid, All the President's Men, The Princess Bride,
Misery Maverick, and he also wrote Memoirs of an Invisible
Man direct by John Carpenter, which I reviewed with Logan
on video Villa. But they said legendary screenwriter. There are

(09:33):
huge people working on this movie. Yes, yes, uh, and
of course based off the Patterson book. Michael Douglas read
the script and he got his company who had, like
I guess, kind of merged with Paramount or they were
with Paramount at the time, so he signed on to
produce it.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
They got Stephen Hopkins to direct, and we've been slowly
going through all of Stephen Hopkins's film.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Career was part of this, right. Did we start with
Prenater two?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Over it?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
We started with Prenat two, we did Nightmare five, but
then we did Lost in Space, so we're just going
all the way.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I love Stephen Hopkins as a director. Again, I think
Nightmare five isn't a great movie, but it could have
been great. Yeah, but Predor two and this is his
second best movie. Yeah, and less that about lost in
space the better.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
We don't know what. One day we'll do the other
the one about the Olympics, the Nazi Olympic ones that
he did. We'll do that one at some point maybe.
Well that was the that was the historical one. We
talked about this on the one episode there was one left.
It was like his last movie.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Let's repeat that whole conversation.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'm just gonna insert though. Yeah, so everyone was thrilled
to sign on to his val Kilmer hot off of
Batman Forever, really really liked the script, and you know,
he didn't have the best experience on Highland of Doctor Moreau.
I think he did this one after Island of Doctor
Moreau or Batman. Well, he signed on to it after Batman.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But did this come out the same year as The
Saint or was The Saint the next year?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm gonna say no, but it definitely came out the
same year as Moreau because he he was nominated for
a Razzie for both of these films. A Razzi for
this film. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, he's pretty bad in this in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
His accent is his accent comes and goes. Yeah, that's
the only his accent really comes and goes.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
He's definitely whackier in Moreau, especially like the back half
of that movie. But this one, there's just a lot
of scenes, in my opinion at least, where I feel
like he's phoning it in or he's just not all there.
There's other scenes where he's freaking incredible. Don't getting wrong,
but sometimes I'm like, val the check. He just had
to get a.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Check, although he seemed like enthused to do this, compared
to Islet A Doctor Moreau, where we realized he was
going and he was going through a shit ton here too,
like the divorce and everything that was like still ongoing.
But apparently Stephen Hopkins said like he was like they
were dealing with a lot on that movie, but he
was good to work with, unlike Island a Doctor Barrow,
where it's like he decided he didn't want to be
the main.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Character anymore because of how shitty everything was gone.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh god, yeah, Richard Stanley getting chased off, so.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Essentially, but he signed on to this, ah secured funding.
Uh here's the thing, Michael Douglass didn't try to be
in this movie, really. He They wanted Sean Connery, they
wanted Anthony Hopkins, both turned it down.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Dude, Douglas has such a presence in this movie.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Dude, Anthony Anthony Hopkins ended up being it's not really
a hunt movie. But the Edge with the Bear.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is that the one where he's.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Not like the long hair? No, no, he doesn't have one.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
That's uh, that's the one with Connery.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
What the fuck is it called? Oh? Is he a hunter?
Is that the one where he lives with apes? Lives
with apes? That might be Anthony Hopkins. I'm not sure.
Instinct instinct. I know it's instinct. It's gonna bother me,
It's gonna bother me. Hold on instinct? Movie? Was it
Sean Connery? Or that is not the right instinct? No,

(12:40):
it's instinct from twenty nineteen. It's like two people making out. Uh,
No that was Anthony Hopkins. It wasn't. Yeah, fuck man,
Sean Connery did have long hair in something I can't
remember it was.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Maybe it was the Rock for It was the Rock
for the Rock for a second, right in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Now, it's funny. They do look a lot of light.
So they both turned it down, and then Douglas decided
to just step in since he was producing it anyway.
The writer didn't care for that because they added his
whole backstory and everything, like he was supposed to be
like this quiet, like manly dude. Oh really, and then
they like apparently added a bunch of stuff to his
character and the writer did not like that.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Really, I like the stuff where he's like with the
African tribe and things like that that I thought it's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I the writer did say he came off kind of
like a wimp. I did, probably somewhat a little. I
wanted someone like Quint. He doesn't really have quint energy
in because he's a little guy, but he's a little
like he's a badass. I could relate to that.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
He's kind of an interesting character because he doesn't consider
himself a white savior, but they kind of present him
as a white savior.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know if anyone would agree with me on that.
I don't agree.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
He's more one of them appreciate he appreciates the land
and respects the land and appreciates their culture them.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I'm just saying the way the movie presents him maybe
less so with the actual character.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's card to hard explained. I think that's more val Kilmer's.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
But yeah, it won Best Academy Award for Sound Editing
and then nominated Razzie for Kilmer. Uh and here you
know you said this is Stephen Hopkins' second best film.
He says it's a mess, and I haven't been able
to watch it. Really didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I wonder what his original like vision was.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I think he was another I forgot to write
it down. I think he's another one that wasn't thrilled
with Douglass being in the movie. I feel like a
lot of like contention around Michael Douglass being in the movie.
I think he was. I like him in the movie,
and it's funny. He's not even really in the movie
that long. He is kind of scene stealing though he
he is playing it up a little bit, so I
can see how that could be kind of annoying.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Maybe it is one of those things because he did
insert himself. He kind of is like, what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Kind of egos this guy had, like on seven saying
I'm the producer and I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Looking up old reviews. People didn't like this movie.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's crazy man.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Rod Eeber put it on his Worst of the Year,
and I'm like there had to have been way worse movie.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
There had to be way worse. That's crazy. I mean,
I don't love this movie, but it's definitely not one
of the worst.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Or is that just a side of time, Like a
good movie like that was considered a bad movie back then,
a movie that if that came out now would.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Be like, this is great.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
I understood what was happening. Nothing looked super There was
a couple a couple of shots of the line. Yeah,
ever ninety six.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
If this came out to Ato, do you need an
HDR screen? You wouldn't know what the fox happened?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So dark? That dark?

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well, if it was made, they make it way too time.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, but yeah, let's go through it. Maybe one thing.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Vilmo Zigmann is the cinematographer on this, okay, and he's
done a ton of shop Yeah what did he do?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I read the third kind?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
What else did he do?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
The Deer Hunter Deliverance and real genius kill her? So
the chemistry, but he's got a fucking big pedigree. There's
all En Jerry Goldsmith. That's a score.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yes, okay, which fucking rules? Now you don't like it? O?
I like it? Man? Here we go here we go, guys,
I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'm being different.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I watched this last night and then this morning and
the eight million time I heard Hi, I like Hi,
I like it, Hi. I was thinking about it. I
was just like, I really like this movie. Why don't
I watch it more? Why don't I own it? Is
there something that stops me from rewatching it? And then
this morning making up to Hi Hi, and I'm like,

(16:25):
I think I found it. So like, I think I
found but one thing of this movie that really, dude,
it's like Dale's. I don't know why. It was like
Dale's on a talkboard. I'm like, oh, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
So definitely don't recommend watching this movie with headphones.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, that's how I.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I did. I was like, this movie and I love
Jerry Goldsmith. I love Jerry Goldsmith. But the eighth million Hi,
and I'm like, no, no.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Go back to that legend episode. You can hear all
about Jerry Goldsmith.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Recently, we did Cube and I forgot that there's like
music and Cube where it's just a girl's audio going
and it was driving me nuts. I'm like, whose idea
was this? That bad idea?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And Stan Winston does the effects on.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, yes, and they look solid. They look solid.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
But there's only like one practical shot of like the
lion in the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Most of it is the real lifeline. Yeah, it's real
life line. There is some like weird digital if it's
not digital, it's like they composited a lion. Yeah, and
it looks when the line, whenever the line jumps onto
a human person, there's some weird like it looks bizarre,
does not hold up. But it's like that so you
don't really think about it too much.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
There are some shots of these lions where they're like
eating somebody's leg or something, and like there's not a
human in the actual frame.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It's fucking crazy as cool as hell. But yeah, let's
get into this, yeah for sure. All right, So it
starts off we get Samuel telling us about how awesome
John Patterson.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Samuel John Patterson was the best man ever. He built
a bridge and he killed lions. It's just totally a
true story. This is a true story. Don't don't don't
doubt me, don't.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Look it up. Shut the fuck up when I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Says to me, Cake, Right, Yeah, this is actually the
guy does the voice of Rafiki.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I think in the live action version, I didn't dive.
I just saw Rafiki next to.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
His name now, but I think I could see him
doing the animated one in my head.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I think I could hear it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
The time to do it. It was nineties. So yeah,
we meet Tom Wilkins in the late Tom Wilkinson and
they have a good handshake, and he's like, I can
tell a lot about a handshake, and I'm like, it's firm.
I don't know why that is like a symbol of
it used to be. It used to be. I'm like,
I've shaken a lot of idiot's hands who had firm handshakes,
and I don't understand this.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
That was supposed to define your character.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I guess so I was definitely a thing for a while.
I mean I've even heard that in the last decade.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Or so when I was growing up. Yeah, I mean,
you should have a firm handshake. But I'm not gonna
be like, yep, I know everything I need to know
about this guy. I'd be like, no, it was it
was Limp. What an asshole. He's a persuasion. There have
been a couple of times where I fucked up a
handshake and I went, I'm sorry, you have to do
that again. I'm like, no, I'm not. We gotta do

(19:12):
it again. That was a man I don't want to pretend.
We're not gonna pretend that I didn't just do that.
We're gonna do that. It's called toxic masculinity.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, this guy's got plenty of it. He's like, you're
not gonna like me, but I'm a great boss.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Oh my god, this fucking guy is every boss I've
ever had.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Fuck this guy, I don't know. Man, I wish he
got eat by the fucking lion in this.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I appreciated his honesty. I was like, you know, this
is just laying it all out there.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I don't give a fuck about you all your child children.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
He's talking about my wife's pregnant with my first child.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't give a ship. I don't care actually, you
and your litter of children. He's like, mister terrific, It's
super bad.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
He just does not give a ship.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
He's gotta fix this.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Intermensional portals on the fuck up, do not Sully, mister
terrific ship? Now what I'm saying The.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Same calcony from Batman begins different guy different DC.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
He's he's got a knack for being a piece of shit.
Mister terrific would fuck him up.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
But yeah, no, I actually really like him at this.
He's just like, fuck you build night Bridge, Like all right,
how to do it? He's like, I really want to
go to Africa. He's like, oh you fuck what you want?
Build my bridge, don't.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Care if you want to come home, or you're gonna
be done in five months, you fuck it six months
or basically your fire, or I'm going to ruin your record.
I don't know if you said this Tony, alright, maybe
when you talked about the original story.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
But eighteen ninety eight, this takes place, yes, yes, uh so, yeah,
they got to build this bridge. So Germany is building
their own rail and they don't want to compete with
them Germany. And I can't remember that China. Yeah, China thinks,
so I forget, I forget the other country.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
They're all just pillaging Africa and fucking building.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
We have to save Africa from the Africans. Also Ballish slavery, right,
so we can end slavery even though we're using slave
you know, so they don't need it anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Server Toude, but yes, close to completely different.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I need the ivory trade to continue.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
There's some serious colonizer mentality in this movie coming from
many directions.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah. So yeah, they were like, you gotta go build
this bridge. Uh so we can just mind Africa for
I hear you the best. Don't fuck it up. This
shows up.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I got a map, this is where you're going, no details.
You're just like, all right, I've always liked to go
to Africa. And then it's like he's on the train.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, He's like, all right, well let me go, and
I'm like, is he buying your ticket? Do you know
what trade? Like? You just got up? Do you just
in those days? Did you just get on the train
and go take me to Africa?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Haven't you seen in Indiana Jones movie they just go?
I always got to say goodbye to his hot wife
first though.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes, he says by to uh Emily Mortimer from screen
three yep, who was supposed to be the second killer
in screen three in the original. So that I was
just saying before I got leaked and they changed it. Yep.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I felt like Scream three.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
But I understand why people don't like that one. Every
problem that movie is not really movie's fault. Outside factors
played into it. But she's good in this. She's like
she might be the only woman who talks in the movie.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
That you knew that, Like, look at the amount of
lines in the strip.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I was just thinking about him, Like, I don't think
there's any other women in this movie.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You'll get your moment later. Even though it's a dream sequence.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Some of the warriors, there's red warriors. I think you're
actually female. Don't speak boys anyway, I think so they can't.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I think so. Yeah. She encourages them to go. She's like, hey, look,
you love Africa. You've always wanted to do this. He
spent some time in India. We're rich, do whatever the
fuck you want, Like just go, just let go and
we'll travel with the baby afterwards.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Now also loves bridges. I mean like, yeah, he breathes
and sleeps bridges.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Wait to build this bridge across the lane. Oh that's right.
He was Irish. Irish.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's very light to none existence.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
It comes, it comes and goes. The voiceover especially he
is like, that's just Val Kilmer.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Maybe that's why he got the Rasty nomination between the
two movies.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I don't know why they could have get that in
line there, Like what do you.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Just don't call him Irish and just be Val Kilmer.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh yeah, he meets up with Angus, Anglish Scotland. He
was from Scotland. He's like a missionary. He's trying to
convert people to not Catholicism, just Christianity in general. Well
do they ever say what he is exactly?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think Val says that he's a Protestant and something else.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
So I don't Val says he's Catholic and Protestant like
his parents were. So I don't know whatever Angus is,
but whatever, another version is one of the sex for sure.
Uh say. He he boards a train with him and
they have a great time looking at stock footage. There's
a hippo they fought out of the mouth. Yeah, well,
at least with the hippo. They actually had some hippos

(23:53):
and a thing. But everything else He's like, ah, giraffes,
it's just got the stock footage. Gazelle.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
They only sleep five minutes a day.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm not making funny. I'm just like it is funny
that it was just it was clearly stock footage, every
single very obviously.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
I think Vill Moost is gonna be pissed that you
said that because he went out to Africa and shot
that shit.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Maybe he did, I don't know. It like comes off
like stock footage to me.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Stephen Hopkins is like, we need that footage. We cannot
pay for that royalty free crap.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Look, the hippos costs way too much. We're not flying
to giraffes. Just have him point and then cut to
a draft.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Like film from like the twenties, like Colors Funny, that
was like the wrong film.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's all degree.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Just go find a Escabar's hippos.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Just the footage of that close enough, good enough. So yeah,
he also knows a bunch of animal facts. Yeah, he's
just like they could do this. They sleep five minutes
a day, they could do that. I don't know if
any of that's real, but yeah, it was really out
of their mouth. Yeah he said that out of the
other end. I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Kno, getting my head close enough to a hippo's fucking mouse,
I'll never find I'm sure it smells irregardless. Yeah, that's
all I know.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
But yes, he's thrilled to be there. Sure, hope no
lions show up anyway, definitely of Africa. Then he meets Samuel,
who's like introducing him to the village. Everyone's working on
that trade, and there's a lot of problems because the
Africans don't like the Indians, and the Indians don't like
the Muslims. But also the Indians don't like other Indians,

(25:20):
and some of the Muslims don't like any other Oslims,
and apparently some of the Africans don't get along with
other Africans.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
They took that melting pot and just kicked it the
fun over and then val Kilm's supposed to like pick
it up and fix everything.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
But taught me anything, if you introduce a white guy,
everything will be fine.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like Indian people and I know Muslim people. I'll just
make them be friends.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Even kind of draw attention to that later and then
whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, Abdullah calls it out. Yeah, but yeah, they're not
getting a lug. There's like a whole thing where it's like, well,
the Indians think cows are sacred, and the Muslims keep
eating the cows and they have a really hard time
with that, and it's a big problem that he asked
him He's like, do you eat the cows? Like, yeah,
I also eat the cows because I don't want to die.
So they're all like fighting with each other.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
But Valcilmer gets worried about this lion and he's like, well,
I know how to fix the problem.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
What are you gonna do? Capture it?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Probably just gonna fucking shoot it because he's also a hunter, like.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, And who gives him the word on the line,
the doctor Hawthorne played by King say it did my King,
my kid? Yes? Uh. He gives them good advice. He says, hey,
don't get sick.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Right, everyone's got malarias but broken into relha sound the
horns so by the way, we gotta talk.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
At some point, I felt like maybe he was gonna
be a bad guy. The way they were kind of
framing him.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
It seemed like it right with the gun, yeah, jamming
and everything.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I think he's just like in a bad situation and
trying to make.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The mediocrity of it because he's not playing something with him.
I don't think they really landed on almost like he's
a little incompetent. Yeah, but I felt like they were
trying to watching this. I totally for it's been a
minute since I seen this, And for a minute, I'm like,
is he like an are they building up as an antagony?
And then that's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I had never seen it, so I had no
fucking Cloris going.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
He said he couldn't get a job anywhere else, and like,
I think, I think dude is paying like Beaumont's paying
him like.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
A lot of money.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Oh OK, gotcha, but like not giving in the tools
that he needs to run a proper hospital out there.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
But yeah, he talks about how his orderly was attacked
by a man eating line. The line spared him to
eat his donkey. But he's like, we got a problem,
freaking line Like you said, He's like, not a problem
at all, been there, done that up.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I'm an engineer, but I'm a hunter, like everybody was.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Probably like rich dude who was like in the army
back then, was definitely like a hunter.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, and something a lot of people started, like, I mean,
they've always hunted for sport, but it became like an
adventure thing at.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Some pointing Teddy Roosevelt kind of ship.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Not exactly like that kind of thing, but.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Also, uh, did you ever see like The Gray with
William Neesy. There was that thing where so they're working
like what it's like the somewhere northern Yeah, that's what
the wolves. But like his job is literally just sniped
wolves who will attack the workers up there. So I think,
like maybe it probably happens less these days, but I
can see if you're working in a dangerous vironment, you
would have to know how to hunt or defend yourself,

(28:06):
especially when there's tigers and lions everywhere and bears. Yes,
oh my, so now you can build a fence that's
pretty reimportant. You're fine. But back then it's like we'll
get a gun and shoot the thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
He even says like he had trouble in like India
with like a bunch of tigers. Yes, so he killed
a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
So yeah, they tie up a donkey. It's like, well
it eats donkeys, let's throw a donkey out there. I
like that. Once his face starts falling asleep in the tree.
But yeah, the line comes out, Oh there was one
guy who told him earlier is like I killed Oh no,
that happens afterwards. I forget what I said. So, yeah,
this line comes out and Patterson kills the fucking thing boom.

(28:51):
I don't think it's connected to the other lions. I
just think it was there.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Keep in mind too, the one dude, the the.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Missionary guy falls out of the tree and almost a lot.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's great, and then the guy from Jaws comes in
and goes a why.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Radius crap, that's a tiger, that's a liger a what
my god.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
It doesn't feel like Jaws though, because it's like, you take, okay,
he solved the problem and then nope, the big are
coming down.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
But he restores faith in the workers, and they're like, fuck,
this guy's gonna help us out. He's looking out for us,
and everybody's kind of like, sure, I'll do backbreaking labor
for no money.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It's just like when the Duke of her was it
the well, fuck fuck hold on, hold on the Duke
of New York, the Duke of Spice. Yeah, that's what
I'm trying to make a joke. What was his fucking name?
Who's the Duke of Caladan or a Trade's Yes, It's
like when Duke Lado a Trade saved all those miners

(29:48):
from the sandworm and they respected them. Duke Lado Attraine's
whose name I'll never forget and you're never forgetting a
Trade's I already mentioned in another episodisode, but uh, I read, dude, Messiah,
they're gonna make a lot of changes in that movie.
But I think I mentioned in another episode racent one
with the weird worm kid. No, that's later. Okay, Okay,

(30:10):
that's later. They're gonna make a lot of changes in
that movie. There's some lines of dialogue or I'm like,
there's no way in hell you're getting Timothy Schall made
to say that anyway. Back in the Robert.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Pattinson Batman, you get this line.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
So, yeah, he kills it. Everyone's thrilled.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
And then one of the builders is like, I once
killed a line with my bare hands. Uh yeah, did
to take you? I didn't did with my bad hands.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
And he was fun because we keep calling back there.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, and the fun fact about that it's not here.
But that guy's a liar, how do you know? Because
he said he killed a line with his berry. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I kind of thought that that's where they were going.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I was leaving a lot out. He's just like it
was a baby lion who fell and I was.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
A cup and that part I thought that was gonna
be like a Bain Switch kind of thing where they
get spoilers. He gets killed later and it's I thought
they were gonna make a bigger deal out of that,
but it's like more of a sad moment.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Cup you're first followed him there.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Uh, but he becomes like the head foreman more or less.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah. Yeah, So he's there when they're talking about building
the bridge and they want to have the foundations built
in four weeks. Apparently the where they have to build
it over is a little rougher than he thought. There's
a fucking river and he's like, yeah, I didn't know
about that. Okay. He was like, it's bigger than I
thought it. Let's figure this out. So he's drawing it.
Everyone's building.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Seven weeks later, progress is being made. He gets a
necklace made out of lion clothes. Everyone respects him.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
It symbolizes bravery. Took him seven weeks to make that
because they had to have that time.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Skip in there wanted he was a real piece of ship,
Like he killed that line. Don't give no president until
he's you know, And he writes he writes a letter
to his wife and he starts it off with uh,
you know how God and liquor, so the Irish wouldn't
rule the world.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
He's lost his accent by this point, though.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah that's the vo right. Yeah, it's like, I'm just
Vell Kilmer now, I'm just like I went to Catholic school.
I must have missed that part of the Bible. I
don't remember that in there. He says it as if
we all know this.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
He randomly just says chair and just he doesn't disappear
into the ground, but he.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Says, down the fucking railroad track you have forever joke.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, but he does say he does.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
A and they but they built us stubborn for us
to do things and be great people or whatever, even
though we're drunks.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Fun fact on bal Kilmer. If everyone's enjoying the side
tangent of twins. I tried to get them into Batman.
They refuse to be invested in any kid friendly Batman.
Real won't watch Lego Batman, won't watch bat Wheels about
sixty six. I haven't tried it yet. I'm gonna try it. Uh.
They watched me play The Batman Begins a video game,
and they just wanted to see the scarecrow get to

(32:54):
get his mask taken off. So I showed him all
the Batman scenes of Batman Begins, and that's what they
were invested in.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
The video game of Batman beginning.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
But then I showed in the movie and they liked it,
and then I.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Want to see Handsome Killy Murphy's what it is?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yes, And now we watch both Burton movies and they
like them. We obviously have to skip if if a
Bad Guy or Batman wasn't on for two longs. So
I'm like, okay, well they only like live action. I'm like,
they're gonna love Batman Forever. It's faster pace, it's colorful,
there's more action. Granted I had to turn it off
for bedtime. Riddler just showed up properly, so maybe that'll
switch it. But they're like, eh, whatever. I'm like, so

(33:27):
do you only like the scary dart with like they're
about to turn three? And I'm like, and everyone's given
me shit. I'm like, no, guys, I tried with the
cartoons and shit. I tried with the animated's Super Dog
movie and nothing. Not very manly.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
These little girls, you have to start Batman Forever when
they go to bed, just like where my wife starts
Batman Forever when she goes to bed, right in Edward
Nigma's apartment when he comes home good when he becomes
Riddler for the.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
First thank point to the light bulb, and.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
So look, we'll find it. We'll find out. I'm gonna
show him the second half. Maybe there'll be one over
by Valcolmer. But right now they're just like, no, we
went dark, scary bat Man. They're gonna put both of
them in the theaters. I should show them this movie.
They'll never want to watch Lion King.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, they're at the beach right now. My brother. I've
told my brother like, yeah, I almost showed them Jaws,
but I thought that might rudification. He's like, he's like,
I would have killed you if you showed them Jaws
right before he went to the people. No, No, that's
bad man. That's why they call him uncle. No, no,
not anymore.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I finally made it to Tony. But now, but now
you know, because we're so casual, I've become tone. They're like, hey, tone,
come here.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm like, anyway way to work up the tone.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
My niece calls me Jody, Uncle Jody.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Wasn't that the Invisible friend in Amityville Horror. I think
so face. So anyway, i'll update you guys later on.
If they're foul kilmer fans, we'll see who listen. Right, So, uh,
he writes to his wife, He's like, Hey, everything's going
great here. I'm having a great time. Sure, hope a

(34:59):
lot doesn't eat a guy. Oh he was a guy.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Especially my head for him. And who said he ripped
one a bar with his bare hands? Oh, ship looks
like every scene this sure home a line, doesn't he mean?
I need some things.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
They're going pretty well. They just start looking It plays
off really well at the end, but it's like whenever
things are going well, fucking lion show.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's been seven months, Like, don't they have a lot
of this for weeks?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Seven weeks at this point? In seven weeks? Yeah, Sam,
I'm sorry. I was saying.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
The script probably could have used another pass or two,
but you need stuff to happen so the can move on.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah. Uh so yeah, that guy gets freaking eaten.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Dude, he gets pulled through the long glass. Man, it's great, dude.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
He like, wait, like not just him a little wait.
He's like, hey, what's going on? And then it pulls
him out.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
So many great shots of people just getting pulled out
from like uh under tens and out of their tents.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Bloods and cuts.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I think he was a liar Tony because he keeps
showing him reaching towards it.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
He never gets jack ship. He couldn't get his hands
on him. If he put his hands on.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Him, forget it.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
He had tied them down before he went to bed
to help him from masturbating.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, it's like a religious thing. He kept trying
to choke it, but it had a maine, and he
was like, why does this lion have a maine? They
don't even live here.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Only it was like the one from the real story.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Wait, what God, I can't stick to choke What is this?
Did someone ship this year out it? Damn you Stan Winston.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
That in the back of my mind, I was like, huh,
I wonder if they're gonna be aware lion?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Is he going to turn into a wear lie?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You're talking man. The last last movie I saw about
hunting and lions was Craving the Hunter, And now I'm
getting bad flash back.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, I'm also saying that not just for goofs, but
they constantly show this lion with green eyes, like digitally
altered green eyes.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Like what the writer said that his thought was that
they were evil that came up out of the ground.
For nine whys. I don't know. They tried to do
some weird supernatural ish stuff, kind of like Jaws, where
they're like a shark wouldn't normally do this or stream
it's strange.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
And then like all of the indigenous people like put
attributed to like a devil or demon because they're doing
this crazy shit and killing people like it's they must
be deep.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Well that's why I specifically brought up Thirteenth Warrior earlier.
But yeah, it is a bail similar interpretation where that
one has kind of a similar supernatural vibe.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
It ends up all being real.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, with the the Cult of the.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Whereas this every time the line appears, it's almost kind
of spectral. Yeah, the way it's kind of hidden in
this ground. And they're definitely smart, like velociraptors.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Because we there rapped. Every movie was really trying to
be dressed.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
There are some clever girl moments and.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
This dude rewatching deep Lucy. I couldn't I couldn't believe
how much it was just ripping off Terrassic Park, and
that's why I love it.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That is a serious good ripoff, and I'm not saying
it's bad, but did you.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Notice it cashing?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
But I'm just like, oh, they have to fly to
location and everyone's gone for the weekend. Like that's really
on the but also ripped off a resurrection we learned
we could on.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
That movie and the alternate ending you did an episode
by we already.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
We already did. But yeah, so everyone's on edge. Patterson
tries to kill it. He doesn't, and everyone's terrified. After
another man dies, uh, they just like.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Which he finds out like off handley the next morning,
they're like, wait a minute, why is everybody leaving?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's like another guy across town died. He's like what
why wasn't I notified? And the dude who got dragged
off the first time, he's like, he looks like they
licked his skin off and drink its blood and it's like,
I've never seen a fucking lion do this before. And
they show the body on the table and like the
head is gone and there's just like lesions.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
All over like they're vampires or something. Shit, I'm just
fucking with them. Dude, they kill for pleasure.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
So they decide they're gonna build a fence. The one
guy was like, hey, we made a fence out of this.
He's like, all right, that's what we're gonna do. Cool
the brambles, and he tells them to do that. And
then Abdullah is just like, you're white, you could do anything.
And then he's just like he's just like, hey, we
all have to work together here because it's the nineties
and that's what our messages.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
And then if you don't listen to me, I'm telling Beaumont,
you're fucking fire.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's the eighteen nineties exactly, Yes, but really took place
of the nineties, which was all about that, Hey, we
all have to work together.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I know, it's just funny coincidence.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
They were very communal back then. Yeah, well look at
Power Rangers, Like, wow, that's a very diverse freight group
right there.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
And this movie could have focused on other things and
just had Valkilmer break a whip out and force people
to do this.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
But that's not just trying to be nice.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
They were trying to show that side of history, you
know what it was because they had to make a
my Irish, right, No, because like his people suffering.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Like he's like the worst of the white peace fathom.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, he's like the sleeve of the white people.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, which I guess was almost Italians. But you know,
we weren't even considered white, so we got off the hook.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
For we don't we don't like black people and be like,
come on into America.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Wait, you're the guy related, You're like Columbus.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Come on in here.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
But even though he makes that racist comment, they just
work together, all right. I guess Val Kilmer's right, actually.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
So yeah, they they're all working together. Their hands are
all fucked up. Angus is waxing poetic about how much
he loves his bloody hands.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Well, this is like a sheltered dude.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
He's like, my mother made me play piano when I
was a kid, but I was turned diff But now
I'm working with the hands and I love it.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
But it's like such a red flag scene. It's like,
because they're focusing so.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Much that guy's gonna die. You look at that, You're.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Like them, see you're expecting. You're like, well, he's the
first one to go.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
The chopping block. But yeah, they talk about all the
great things that man can accomplish man Boys Month, Boys Month. Uh,
but he can't get anyone to convert.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Trying to get up people, he gets a couple of people.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, but yeah, he's uh what you Patterson talks about
how much he loves his wife, and Samuel says that
he has four wives, and I have it here, that's
too many women your band for boys Month.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
He goes to youka and he goes, yeah, I do.
He's like, I don't like any of mine.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Then he said that I have another note here. He's
back into boys boy. It was it was just a
few seconds. He was bad and he's bad Tony, What
the fuck you don't like women?

Speaker 4 (41:09):
You?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Where's your four wives that you hate?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well, we already had that conversation camera of what's going
on in my life? Jo moved to youtub brother you
weren't here a spoiler? Bad? Uh sounds about right? So, yes,
work is being done. Uh and the lion is spy.
They actually have a shot of the lions spying on that.

(41:32):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh, I see you like sniffing them out, like making
a trap?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Ein't are some of the scenes that really take me
out of it though, Like is this supposed to be
serious or what like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
They are a little wait they go about it, same
thing with my uh complaints about the sharks and Deep Luci,
Like these lines are a little too smart. The sharks
do the cameras set up, and they knew about flooding,
just like now the lions. I'm like, wait, are they
like making notes and be like all right, this is
what they're building.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
And I know this to be fair, the sharks and
Deep Blue Sea are generically altered, so their brains are
like three or four or five times to size the
original size.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
That doesn't mean that they can do the peg. They
were really too smart. They were smart.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
But the but I totally believe the lions because if
you have if you own a cat, you know how
smart a cat is or even a dog.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I don't doubt the stalking. I actually agree with you
in that sense. I just don't they know.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
What they're doing. Yeah, it's a little too on the money.
Don't remind me I own a cat. I just had
to take her to the vet today and I got
the bill, and I always every when ever I get
a bill for her, I just always remember, like, not
supposed to be my cat. It's not supposed to be
my cast.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You're across the Bear tone, return her to her home,
back to space.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
If Sean, if there was an option put her in
the Jupiter two tone. It was funny. I almost canceled
a live episode because we got like a flood warning,
which we wouldn't have flood it. We just would have
lost the Internet. And people are like, make sure Space
Cat's okay, and I'm like, well, no, in floods, you
gotta grab like important things that can't be her.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Why when I know, well, you could just throw it
like a suitcase, uninvited, and it could just jump on it.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's true, right, I did. I did have a Lady
Here not too long ago, and we did watch on.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Oh my god, I love that movie. We watched it
every year for fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I reviewed it on Patreon.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I did a cat.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, well that was the thing. I was telling them
the plot and I was like yeah, So then I'm like,
fuck it, We're just gonna put it off.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
And cat that lives inside of another cat on a
fucking cruise ship with George Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
What what do you need if you don't want to
go on Patreon you can just go over to Movie
Dumpsters YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
We also reviewed that film The.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Hell kind of Both Check this out. We also did
an interview with the director gradon Reverse Tony that was
an anti.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Plug's going to another person show go don't don't pay
for this, go to.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
My He's got that ship locked down for this.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
We have to work together. Tryly fuck that one up.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Now now that you're saying it out loud, I don't not.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
What I meant, but uh I remember this when we're
being stuck by a lie, I'm like, remember that's is
he the is he the Abdullah? You're gonna put the
gun to his head? Like, I don't care that much.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Share the wealth, every different perspectives, right, That's why everybody you.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Know the the cat and would you call it Uninvited?
They didn't have a name, but since there's two of them,
could we call them the ghost in the Darkness? That's great.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Now I need a shirt of both of the cats
from Uninvited that says the may.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Look like the cover of the movie where it's it's
like Michael Douglas and Malcom but making both cats.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
It's George Kennedy and that fucking guy I always forget
his name, Walter Clu Gullagher and George Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Anyway, the lions attack and they freaking eat a man's head.
It's pretty freaking brutally. He just come out and just
rip into this guy's head.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
There are some like really gnarly like bites in the Yeah,
when they come down and like rip people's skin off.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
It scared me as like a kid, which, by the way,
you want you just said, I grew up with this. Yes,
I need to like that. This is like after Batman forever,
So I do with how Kilmer was, and like I
like these kinds of movies like Congo and.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, yeah it was right in the pocket with Congo.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yes, yeah, so I remember like my grandfather righting this
and I watched it like a couple of times. But yeah,
like the Lion, I didn't expect the lines to be
like as violent. Oh she was like Jurassic Park cuts away.
This one does not not really well, that's what I'll say.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
I mean, I didn't do any research on this, but
you kind of already joked about the raptors.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
They definitely are trying to go for that vibe.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
But I also got the feeling that they were trying
to push it a little further than maybe you could
with raptors.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Are Is it rated R? I think so that's not.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's pretty fucking violent, real quick.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Real quick.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
And I love how when the it was p thirteen
same but I love when the lines are running right
at the camera.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
It's like freaky as hell.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah, the dark.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
I don't think there's any cursing in it, so I
think it's probably PG thirteen.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Ghost. No, it's rated ar. It's radar probably for blood
of violence. They were proper back then. They didn't curse
or people are cursing. It's another language. I don't know
what they're saying with one guy.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Shit, it's eighteen ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Again, they didn't curse much back then, apparently all they
most certainly did.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Not in this movie. On the movie, So the lion's
attack broad daylight in front of everyone.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
That was the one that gets you, right, Yeah, oh fuck,
everybody's like, it's daytime.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Everything's fine. We're a little confident. Now, you're a little confident.
They know because they're smart. We put up the brambles.
Everything's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Same fucking thing that happens in god Zella Versadora. Yeah,
like it only attacks at night.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
We're good to go. Daytime smogs. Everybody smogs happened. Shit,
So yeah, they're they run to the station, they're looking
for it. This thing's just ripping this guy's guts out.
It doesn't even care that there's people there.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, val kilmore like run as far as fuck with
the rifle.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
How is nobody like close around there with a gun.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
It's weird how people just have and don't have guns
in this.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Well, they don't get the workers guns.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
The only thing except for when they do.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Well, those guys are specifically like Hunter I, Crimin old guy.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
The only guy that's close is the next main character
to die, which we already joked about it is the
missionary guy just happened to be a little too close
to the lion.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
By the way, this is this is a clever girl moment.
They go to get the lion and they're like, there's
a second one, there's two, there's two. Yeah, it jumps
and like rips the thing's throat rapes the guy's throat.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Guy as soon as he gets his like you know,
he's he's finally like broken out of his show, right,
he's take this, gonna go kill a lion, and it
just takes him.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Out, and then everyone just kind of forgets to shoot. Really,
it's like starting kissed me off and it was like
val vals, like clean shot. I'm like, he's right there.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
You shut a fucking line in the head with one
shot at night and killed it. Those green eyes they
throw everybody off.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Those are because you're just having automatic guy. You We're like, oh,
I think I hit it.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
We'll find out, just fucking like blame it with a medican.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Oh my god, and I have it here. Oh, Angus dies,
that's his name. So he dies, and uh, this is
when we get the names the ghost and the Darkness.
That's what they call them. Until the day I die.
I will always accidentally call this Ghost in the Darkness.
I we're just doing that, which is a totally different movie.
I'm pretty sure we go through our text threads. I

(48:15):
probably called it Ghost in the Darkness many many.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Times, which came out a few years ago, and it
looks horrible.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Wait, there is a movie called Ghost in.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
The Darkness twenty sixteen or some shit.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, looks that was a real movie.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
It's also the it's also the animal porn ghost in
the Darkness. Oh don't they don't show you that part
in the bush.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Get you the night vision for that, right. So the
lines are terrifying everyone. Workers are starting to flee. They're like, uh,
we don't want to be guys leave, Like three times
are going on that train. He calls am Doulah coward.
He's like Dulla now because the bosses on the way,

(48:56):
they're like, you cannot leave today.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Look, yeah, there's no cover of bag if you walk away, right,
h basically.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
But yeah, he shows up and he's like, I hate
being here. Why is my bridge not done? And he
gets Africa. He gets updated on the lions. Oh god.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
They're like he's like, wow, where's Angus and like they
come out with.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
The cough like he's right there.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
He's like, I don't give a fuck about Angus.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I don't give a fuck about the thirty people dead.
I want my fucking bridge now, Kim, give it to me.
He wants his knighthood. Here's where I think we get
like the real thing.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
He wants his knighthood and the ivory trade yes to continue?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Uh so yeah, he's like knighthood. Yeah, so yeah, they
killed thirty men. So they're just like going to town
like every single Again, I don't know why they're not
all huddled in one thing with gun. Get some fucking
DNT traps in Africa? Can he not build a bear trap?
Not that I'm four bear traps, but in this situation.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Throw some meat in it. Yeah, I'm step on it.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
I don't condone it. But again, if there were just
two long going out of their way to try and
kill me, I think I might. I might entertain the idea.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
You want to know why, because these fucking buffoons will
step in it themselves die. Oh my god, is that
the line that was an asshole stepped in the bear trap?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Again? Patterson shows him his trap in the train car,
and I like, that's fucking stupid. I like that. He
entertains like, oh, that's a great idea. You're a fucking idiot.
You're gonna die. And Falcover doesn't say, oh, well, I'm
actually putting three other guys. I'm not gonna be there,
but I like that. He says.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
He's like, yes, I tried this with the tiger in Indies.
Like did it work? He's like, actually it didn't. But
you know the theory sound, which this is a year
after Judge Tred made a similar joke where they're talking
about the fire tunnel and he goes out, did the
guy survive? He goes, no, but the theory sound, And
I'm like, wow, huh was this guy watching Judge tread left?
Will William Goldman was like all a lot of good

(50:53):
lines in this movie, but that one was pretty I'm
going to sort it out. That's the good one.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
That's his like exactly, and Val totally should have gone
in there and just done that himself, Like, don't leave
this fucking job of some other moron.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Oh yeah, And he's like, hey, criminals, here you go,
and you guys are gonna do this.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
I think he stays for a couple of days and
then hires these guys because he has to like actually
be the foreman.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Shit. Yeah. Yeah. So Patterson does tell him. He's like, hey,
Remington is on the way. I hired him. Uh, And
he's like, don't worry, I'll have these lions dead long
before he shows up. So the lion enters the trap
and these guys, yeah, these guys earlier bullseyed a flower. Yeah,
they got lucky. Apparently all three of them are in

(51:36):
this cart right. Val walks away and he's like, holy,
I can't believe you did that. Right here, bang bang bang,
and they're all missing. All three of them are miss storm. Wops.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I want to see you with a fucking twelve hundred
pound lion jumping on a thing that's shaking a whole,
like little small thing. Easier to shoot them than try
to shoot it with a rifle.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I don't know. Right up.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
In the bars fire probably.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
It was like all three of them were missing, and
they weren't like muskins. I looked there like, we're not
scared of anything.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Clearly they are lions. I mean that would be pretty scary.
Like Joe's saying, I would say, you.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Don't want to be scary. It's just you figure one
of them would hit it somehow. But yeah, this thing's
breaking the thing.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
It's either fight or flight, right, Yeah, they all did
the flight.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah. Well, guy's yelling out the window.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Help, he's trying to pull them grading the line of lights.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Everything on fire because it knew how to do that. No,
the guy no, but like he was nine, I think
he knew natural. And the lion gets out of there.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
It just leaves and then Val Kilmer. Then he wakes
up and it's like, oh, they fucked it up. Oh
you guys, God damn it.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
How do you miss it? It was right there. I
don't care if it was moving. It was moving and
it was dark. I'm like you, you had to have
like purposely not been aiming for it.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Didn't even hit once, by the way, what no blood,
no bodies, they hit nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
So he's screaming at them.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
And then Michael Douglas shows up as Remington, changing plans.
Get him back, I get him all back.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
He's so great, man, I mean, despite all the bulls
that went on behind the scenes, Like his presence is
fucking great.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
He's okay, it's just knowing what character they're going for.
I don't know. He just comes off a little too
goofy for me. I like it. But like when they're like, yes,
the most masculine hunter ever, and it's just like, I
am Michael Douglas.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Well, it's like the eighteen hundreds. I pictured him as
like some backwoods like Louisiana, crocodile done.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
But then like they're giving him lines like I am
the devil and I'm somebody just rewatched Devil's Rejects. I'm
like seeing like Bill Moseley be in all badass and
then you have talks like I am the Devil. I
think I think it works.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Meanwhile, I get high and hang out with the natives.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
It might be my last night. So yeahs blood, Oh
he brought it. Yeah, he brought it. Tribe with him, Lions. Yeah,
these are my bros. We're gonna hang out together.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Which I think they definitely ripped off of Avantur too
so much as if they actually exist or anything.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Was it what you do?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's what I was thinking, but you do?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
So yeah, he I like that they're having almost they're
about to have like a power show. It almost feels
like Quint and not Brody no Quin and Hooper Cooper Yeah, Hooper,
Hooper Hooper. Sorry. Yeah, it feels like they're a kind
of chemistry there. But I like that we're all like
He's like, I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that,

(54:39):
and you're gonna build your bridge. Are you fine with that?
And like in a surprising usually it's like a tick
measure of contest. He's just like, yeah, I'm actually okay.
Can we just lines please. He's like, I'm not really
doing a good I'm a bridge guy. I this is
not a guy you take. I'm glad that you were
taking care of this is actually weight off my shoulder.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Let's not tell Boma though. And then Michael Ducts is like,
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna tell him that you
shot him so.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
And then I'm gonna get the hell out in there. Yeah. Yeah,
so your workers still respect you. And I'm like, wow,
that's actually very I'm going to get some Africa. I
would be like, I think they'd be happy either way.
But it's very considerate of you. I wasn't even asking
he's a really nice guy that it's a really nice
guy with flowing locks. Yes, but yeah. He tells the doctor.
He's like, I want a new hospital build. He's like why.

(55:26):
He's like, well, probably coming because it's just blood and
flesh to tell you why. But I don't want to
tell you what. But I don't want to tell you
I don't want to tell you that.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
He basically tells him, I don't want to tell you
that you have to build a different one because the
fucking lions could smell everything. Thing.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Well, yeah, because he's also like you should just trust me, Yeah,
because I want you know, I know what the fuck
I'm talking about, and question to me makes you think
you don't.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Theadan, you know, he thought he can tndle uh freaking
what we call it? Uh? Why am I blanket on everything?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
More door?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
He thought he could handle more door. Glad, I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
It's just not me because I can't even speak.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
No, that's really you know. He thought he could handle
more door and he couldn't. He thought he could deal
with that iceberg and he couldn't. He thought he could
deal with these lions and he couldn't. He just fucking failed.
He wrangler man, he's a horseman man sense to judgment.
It sounds like I want to watch one movie where
he's making confident decisions.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
I gotta find the Return of the King.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Well, yeah, it was warm tongue in Sauraman, who fucked. Yeah.
They bond a little bit as the tribe is singing,
and we learned that Remington doesn't really enjoy killing. He's
just good at it. What is he arnold? Yeah, come on, man,
it's kind of yeah, yeah, but I think it's just
like he danced with the tribes. So apparently he fought
in Africa and lost his family, and the people he

(56:45):
fought with lost a lot of their families.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
In like a civil war that was there.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, and that's why they're bonded together. And then that's
why he's also dancing with them to get his courage back.
I think he says he's the great white African.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yes, and then the doctor the White Savior again. Yeah,
it's more like, yeah, it is well George of the Jungle, which,
by the way, I think the lions, the real lions
from this movie were also in.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
George of the I don't I don't think Michael Douglas
deflower to which.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
They can tell that he wanted to again with that hair.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
So the Doctor is like, hey, buddy, I want you
to take my rifle. It's a lot stronger. You have
my axe.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
You can have my I haven't cleaned it or made
sure it actually works, but definitely take it.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah. What the hell was up with Patterson here?

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Also like he he didn't clean the gun or make
sure that it worked.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yes, just oh, I trust this guy instantly.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
The last time you shot this. Have a lot of
questions I will have a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I just usually run around with it look important.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
So they kill a cow and they drink its blood,
and the next day after he's dancing with him and
then dancer, he looks like he's humping everyone else.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
For some reason, it looks that fun of tribal dancing.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
No, no, no, it actually looks fine when they're doing it,
but for some reason, just an American guy and Jean's
doing it just looks really.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Weird to fal Kel was just watching the whole time,
like it's like watching a white guy dance with the
four tops.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just like something about this doesn't seem right.
It doesn't seem right when you do it. So, yeah,
they spot a line in the thicket and they're like,
all right, everyone's gonna prepare to hunt. Uh. They get
everyone involved in this. They spotted again and Remington's screams
and their goal is to try to corner this fucking
thing again.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
He's trying to give the kill to Kilmer. He's like, yeah,
go out there, and runs out, and.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I mean, I think they would kill it if they
had to. He's like, but I want you up there
because I know because you've killed one before I know
you could do this. Patterson gets scared by a zebra
at zebra wandering in from a whole different movie. He's like, ah,
that was.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
A little bit of a cheap jump scare, alright.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
But he goes further into the thing, and then the
lion corners him.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
It's weird that zebra sand like Chris Rock that that's.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
The only part I know, Man, get me out of him.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
It doesn't really corner him, though, because the only reason
why I even.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Well they actually know, they didn't. They pump into each
other and right on his ass.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, yeah, I guess it does eventually corner him because,
like we're kind of alluding to, he pulls the trigger
on this elephant rifle and it just nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
And then he's like kind of fucked, yeah, right, like
shoot it. Why is it he shooting? He doesn't get it.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Yeah, Well, he's also captivated by it because it's like, right,
there's gigantic.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
It's I don't know why the lion isn't also attacking.
They were both unprepared for this.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Too, because I guess it figured like there's a bunch
of like hunters or whatever. Yeah, that would not be
a good time, but it's other like half is somewhere else, right,
it needs the other ones that could come in, like
the clever clever guy.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yes, clever men for.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Clever boys. You're male lions by the way, huge nuts.
So yeah, uh he probably correctly gets yelled at. Yeah.
He's just like you went in the battle with an
unproven weapon. I'm like, yeah, why didn't he tested?

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
You killed the other lion with your rifle? Yeah, what's
the difference?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
False tension?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
If you're gonna use a nice new rifle, like test
it out?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Yeah, first, like you're supposed to be a marksman or
at least a hunter, Like, yeah, you should have cleaned
it and tested before them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, And he's like, you know why you have that feeling?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
It's like you got hit? Yes, you got hit? Are
you gonna get up?

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Because he gives him the whole thing, like you know,
you go to a bat, you know what they call
it in the fat everybody's got a plane to the gate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
He hit and right, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
And the Africans are just like all right, fuck you guys.
That was our only like line hunting trip.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
But well that was weird because they are still kind
of around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Sometimes they're like the extras anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yeah, well, Samuel's like they said, that was the ghost
in the darkness and it's not really a line.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It's like a demon. They're not doing it anymore, Jody
or something. So they decide they're going to cover the
old hospital full of blood and cal carcasses and the lions.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Like you said, why don't they do that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Right? Yeah? Why not? Man eaters?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Man, they're not eating the cows. They want people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Well that was the weird thing. Yeah, I guess that's
disrespectful to throw human.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Blood and just stood out there. Maybe the bodies that
they already killed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
They're like them, Oh yeah, before we do a proper
funeral for these guys, can we use their dead bodies
as bait? Okay, Like that's mean. Can you exanguinate them? Please?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Just do it like walking dead, cover yourself in a
bunch of intestines and they just let it come at you.
Pull the shotgun out last second, blow the hat off.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I don't know, right, that's worse than the fucking box idea.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Well I'm not saying I would do it, but it's
an idea.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So, yeah, they cover this thing of blood and they're
in there and they're ready, and these lions are all over.
They're circling the thing, they're testing it for weaknesses.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
They're on the roofs like raptors.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
They're underground at one point under the fucking floorboards like
the Werewolf and silver Bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah, I thought it was gonna pop out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
So they're all over and then they're just like open
the lock, let's see what's going on here, Let's bring
them in. They're like, hey, where are they cut to
the new hospital. Some poor fucker wings up and there's
just an animatronic lie like raw ripping people out of beds.
It just starts ripping every like I'm like, not one

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of those guys had a gun or like a sharp
stick or like a rock.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
The hospital masker is the best scene in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Intense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
It also doesn't how these things can fucking teleport like Jason,
because they're all over.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
They're all over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
They're still hunters. Yeah, it's not that far away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
They're also not really doing a good job of eating.
They bite a little bit and then they go to
attack another person like Bobbies.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
They even said like, oh, like the lions shouldn't be
feeding again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It just ate.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Yeah, killing for food. So the hospital scene is brutal. Yeah,
it's just ripping everyone up. Some poor guy is like,
I'm gonna climb the pole and he's like, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Your your pole.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
And the doctor he even like runs in and Samuel's like, no, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Supposed to stay back. He's like, fuck this, they're killing
all my people.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
And he gets killed in the k He runs in
with that fucking rifle and guess what, Nobody told him
that doesn't fire on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
No one yelled at him, but nobody was like. Nobody
was like, hey, this didn't shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
That was like his receipt like in wrestling, like you're
you're gonna get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
But he died us. Yeah. The next day everyone's gone.
Abdulla and his boys they're out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
The train is so fucking packed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
There's like people riding on the front of him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
They're like, after that cartage, fuck this, Well come back
when they're literally dead otherwise, don't call us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, so they're all like, uh, they just feel defeated.
What's the fit? What's the Raymonton feels like he just
got hit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Dal said to like, you just got hit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, but you have to get back up there. I'm Irish, now,
am Irish. Did you know God inventured liquor so we wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Oh, I love drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
We're gonna be drinking later. I'll drink to your leg
you drink your legs. So they decide they're going to
track the lines.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
They got barrels, they got them color code.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Samuel Kees left off a shirt. They're just scarbage. They
didn't tell you what it is. H there, Mariann Maffi.
So he tells the story of a three bullies that
were a problem when they were together.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Oh, from the Niverhenning story three Jack Black's one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
No, no, no, these are different bullies. He's like, the problem.
When they weren't alone, they were a problem, but when
they were all together they were bad. He's like, what
did you do?

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
He's like, I got bigger and then separated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Leads to a thing later. It's not a really good fine.
But they find the cave and there's just bones right
where they lived.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I do love a good layer scene. And it's a
good layer scene.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
And I know what you're thinking, audience who hasn't seen
this movie. And then they wait there for the lines
to come back and shoot them right right, since everyone
fucking left, you might as well. Right, I'm sitting there,
I'm like, because again I forgot like the end of
this movie. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess they wait there.
I'm like, oh, wait, so they know where the lions
go back, and they don't like wait for them to

(01:05:11):
go in there and throw fire in the smoke them out, right?
Yeah yeah, wow, hide in the tree, wait for the
going to the cave and smoke them out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
They get add twenty more pages in the script they
had to cover, so I guess it was sure fire
that they were going to come back to their camp.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I guess. But it's a cave. It seemed to only
have one entrance. I think you could have really taken
care of them up in the corner and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
You just wait for them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Exactly. They didn't like to look at those bones. They
got it, they got the edge. Yeah, okay, so this
is when they start like putting in like the whole
supernatural sort of thing, like lions don't do this, No
lion is ever, it's killing for the place.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
They say, no lion, Yeah right, exactly. They definitely did
show the green eyes up to that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, now they're really laying it on. You know, I
sure would like a lion with green eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Lions don't come with green eyes. These were to do.
So yeah, they build some kind of stand, some kind
of tree stand. He has like a model that he shows.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah, look like this, I found out about it in India.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
But like you could have a better ergonomic thing, maybe
with like a seat that spins around instead of flipping
your legs over every five things to turn around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Well, look, you know they're working with what they had
there a signed I guess, so, yeah, Redmonton doesn't like this.
He's like, I'm gonna be far away because you're gonna die.
And then he gives them pistols. Yes, that he doesn't test.
I would be like, okay, if it's coming from if
it's coming from Remonton, I know it works after the
last time when it when it risk it likes Yeah,

(01:06:45):
I still want at risk it. I still want to
risk it. Modern guns, well, jam a gun from back then,
I'm gonna really want to test that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Well, he has no choice. It's either that or gets
eaten right in this particular.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Scene, So yeah, he gives them the guns.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
And by the way, it's Christmas, they trot out of baboon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Yep, lions apparently hate the sounds of bab boons, And
like you were saying, with eyes, we suddenly get lion vision.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Oh dude, it's pitch black visions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, it really is. I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Werewolf Ridick took his fucking glasses off here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, it was just like, do lions have special vision
that I'm not aware of? And they do?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Like one of my least favorite things that movies do.
They set up this thing, this bad Boone's gonna scare
the ship out of the lions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
It's gonna eat the goat. We already did that earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
But no, I just expect at least one scene of
this thing screaming and then we're getting freaked out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
But no, it's just killed instill screaming a bunch.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Well it goes and then dead silence, not like, oh
it scared the ship out of and we got one shot.
It didn't do damn nothing, just and still he kills
this fucking bab boon. The worst of the valcimer is
like looking at it, yeah, and can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Do nothing, doesn't show I do like this.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I do love this set piece though, because it's like
a haunted yeah, forest, it's like smoke and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Everything, right, Michael Douglas is like, fuck as the fog.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Can't see ship.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Uh. And then I guess the ghosts and the darkness
demons had help from some asshole hawk. That was just
like a Now it was David Bowie. Yeah, that was
just like, fuck you, buddy, I'm gonna knock you out.
Like what was the owls? Is that another movie?

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
They teased that owl earlier in the film they showed
that owl on a three branch, so they had to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Bring it back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
The owls working with them, working with What you didn't
see was that Valcilmer mountain. That thing's mate somewhere yeh
killed that horned owl from sport or whatever. Owls in
Africa maybe those kinds of howls I look more like
a hawk.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I don't know, it's an owl. It's some kind of fun.
Are there owls in Africa?

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
From Wikipedia?

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Saharan Africa has there? You go? A similar in South Asia?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Okay, okay, okay, So Africa has owls there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Can't wait to hear what that sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
In the episode, the Savo have owls, though we don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
They don't have manes. They have their mainless owls.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Barless owls, but they have mains in the movie. We
had to make sure they have mains in the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So he gets like one shot off on the lion
and then it makes a jump for Patterson again and
Remington kills. Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
But it's so fucking cool because val like falls out
of the tree stand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah, because of the owl.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Right, Just to clarify, because the the lions are like
shrouded in the midst.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
They're like blue almost with green eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
It looks really cool, like a ghost in the darkness.
And this thing jumps at valcimity fucking blasted with the revolver. Yeah,
flies off to the It's really cool. I guess that's
all it takes though, right, Yeah, I mean it's total.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So they celebrate the death of the lion and they
could hear the other lying crying in the distance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah, yeah, over it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
I know. And I know what you're probably thinking, shouldn't
they go shoot that lion? They know where it is,
they can hear it. Should they go they should go
shoot that line? Worry about it's scared. I'm gonna sit
here drink his.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Whole bottle of Michael Douglas is gonna go to bed
and exit the movie forever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I'll be in my Trent good night. But yeah, so yeah,
they start talking and they do a toast and they
talk about being able to remember good times and Patterson's like,
I remember my uh my wife and my family and everything.
And Patterson's like, I missed my child's birth, and it's
like everything's gonna be great going forward. I'm like, well,
one of them is about to die. I can't be.

(01:10:42):
Can't be Samuel because he's narrating.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
You. Hold that's that's son High Okay, pride rock you
hang him up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Uh. And then the next day his wife visits him
with the baby.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
This is such a great fake ouns.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Yeah, he's with the baby and he's like, oh, well,
my wife's here. This is great. And then he looks
into the thicket and we see.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
The lion going like a fucking speeding bullet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
And he's like, no, get out of here. No, and
then a lion jumps on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
But they show a lot though, because it not her
and the baby down mauling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
If it was thirteen, would have just cut from the knock,
but no, it cuts like mulling.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
As soon as it started mauling her, I was like,
this has to be a dream, right, There's no fucking
way he wakes up. He's got the bottle in his
hands still like beer, sweats and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And then we learned that in the night that lion
came back and it ripped Remington two shreds.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Samuel must sleep like a fucking rock because he only
had a little glass champagne and those two fucking hit
a whole bottle.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Well, the other the lion was looking at fucking Val
Kilmer doing some kind of psychosis to it in that nightmare,
and then you killed Michael Douglas.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Maybe he got it by that fucking rantula from a recnofold.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Yeah, yeah, maybe. I love that they go into the
field and it's just covered in blood. Well the body.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
When I hate that show the fucking bod when he
tracks it out though, but like it pulls out, it's
just like a circle, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
The circle, and then they start lighting like all the
grass around them, And I'm just like, maybe it's because
I'm on edge because we had that burn band last
year and like a bunch of fires. I'm like i'd
be way too scared that everything was gonna catch on fire.
Is that controlled?

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
For?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Was that fake grass?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Far cry too. That's a very common way to clear
the fields.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Kenya is going up in flame. Yeah, but they're like,
for me, like the actors in real life, like, oh shit,
I wouldn't have been like, no, I'm not lighting this
on fire. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Steve's on the back He's like, I got a fire
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
That's why I feel like it had to be fake
grass and controlled. I don't think they would have had
him burning like a real life everything's dead around there
like they're dead.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
It does it does make me wonder why the fuck
they waited till now to do this, but.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
It creates a pretty cool of landscape for the finale.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
As someone who almost lit his back we are on fire.
It was the scariest part of the movie for I
just see you lighting your backyard on fire and space
cat coming after you, and you're the thing fell off
of my fire pit and on the grass was still
dead at it and it started lighting the backyard on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
I'm like, oh no, right, she's gone right for your eyeball,
that's your ultimate nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
The cat remind me, it'll never let you near the
barbecue at my house. Well, no, it's not a problem.
It's greet I'm not gonna light on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Now I found enough time had passed, but apparently not anyway.
So yeah, Patterson has lost it. He's like, I'm gonna
sort it out. I'm gonna sort it out, sort it out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Now he's testing out the docks gun to fucking attract
this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Now it's working. That's his if he if it bleeds,
we can kill it. Yeah. Actually this moment is his.
With the fire, it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Looks pretty fucking crazy flames in the background as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Sam, it was like, I'm scared of lions, don't away.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Well, I kind of love that character because he mentions
that a few times and now it's kind of like
a put up or shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Moment for him. But yeah, I did like how the
final confrontation did happen at the bridge. That's a fun
place because that's like been the driving force. Also rewinding.
I did like Radmonton be like, I didn't realize it
is a pretty bridge would have been great. I'm really
sorry about that. Man put a lot of work in that.
But he suddenly really cares about the bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
That was his death flag. I think it's a red
flag that was his.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
So he's on the bridge. The lion chases him. It
comes up from underneath the bridge something that's the coolest.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Shot on the platform below, and he drops the shot. Yeah,
and it jumps through the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
That looks so good. It was so cool. But yeah,
it chases the chases where I think it's superimposed and
he's in front of it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
It just because there's no funk away. He's out running
like a real lion. But it looks like the colors
not quite right. Yeah, but Samuel, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
He Patterson runs up into a tree, Samuel's and the
other tree, and instead of shooting the lion, he throws
the rifles and well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
He can't get a good shot. I do love how
he thinks he's gonna get away from the lion. I
climbing the tree. He just doesn't know. They climb trees, dummy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
I mean heads up lions and cat my cat camp.
But most cats and especially lines, they can climb tree.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Even some bears bears cat to uh, they'll climb, they'll climb.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
I did play a Lord of the Rings game years ago.
Was the first Shadow Mordor game. What were the fucking
dogs they rode in? Yeah, I got it up to
a point where those show up. And I remember like
climbing a building and I didn't realize they could climb.
I'm like, oh, ship, let me get up here, then
start climbing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Did you did you jump off the top of the
building and reach for a shotgun that hits the ground?

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
No back injuries, no broken so that the shotgun like
falls and he's just like, well, I'm just gonna land
on the ground, not be winded.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
And all for the second time, I mean to be fair,
What else So you're really gonna do? I guess if
you hit the ground in your hurt bite, you're just
dead anyway, but surviving at the top either man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
This line comes after him and he takes one shot
this in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
And then it just keeps good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
It's like and the real guy pushed up his glasses
from the grave and said, excuse me, nine shots too
in the chest one and a head plays what the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Fuck this is inaccurate? Yeah, it is funny. There's only
two shots.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
You think it'd be like, ah, dude, When he shoots
him for the last time, he just point blank in
the fucking face.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
And this think like bites into a log that's right
in front.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Of him, which apparently in the real story, that's how
it was left when he killed it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
It was biting into the log in front of him. Okay,
I guess if you're a shot in disoriented, you're just
gonna bite any well yeah sure, but yeah that line
is dead. That's great, and all the workers were. If
I'm a worker, I'd be like, how do you fucking
know there was only two? I don't trust that at all. Also,
not gonna die, had prides, No, I'm not going.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Also a fucking miracle that after all that fire the
bridge still stands strong.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Woody. I love that they showed like the real bridge
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Cool. Yeah, yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
And the bridge was built and everything was fine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Everything was fine after it was saved.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
And you too can go see the savo many does
at the Natural Museum of Natural History in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
What if they ever moved those It's they're gonna set
the movie every single time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I wonder if they already move.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
It's just a veo. But yeah, his wife shows up
with the baby and I rail this time. I did
like this movie because we were joking every time something
good happens a lion attack. So you see Malcolm, he
looks at the grass. He's like, hold on, okay, I
think I'm good. He remembers that nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
He's like, uh, I think we're good. Just better be
fucking deja vo.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
And yes, uh it's it's a great time. He's reunited
with his wife, Samuel's happy, the bridges built, it's up high. Yes,
it's a happy ending everyone except for those people who died.
But for everyone else, it's a happy end.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Michael Douglas, Hey, Beaumont gets knighted. Everything's good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
It should have cut to Boma being knighted and then
like a lion.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
That's collecting his check in the fucking in the palace.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
And Boma is a gift. We're gonna show you this
lion he brought back.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
In a beal Juicehere they have the skull and they
put it in his face. He's like, oh god, that
would be hilarious him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
I wish he fucking died. Uh. I still really like
this movie. It's great. I love this movie. Going back
and seeing some of like what the reviewers back then
were saying, I could see Michael Douglas. He does kind
of chew the scenery a bit, not over the time.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
But a letter Malta say, Tony, fuck, I don't I
don't feel like God damn it I mentioned in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Sorry, I was just really shocked that Roderiber did put
like worse.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
I'm like, really man, trying to remember like what had
come out then, but like there must have been some
really good fucking movies that year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Yeah, I'm saying this is like the best fun.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I've always liked it though. I like that it was,
you know, true story. I like Val Kilmer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
As far as Killer Lion movies go, this rules.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I mean one I was gonna say, I don't
know many. There was one recently with your cell, but
I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, I forget what it was you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Yeah, but then just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Like there's like ship like Day of the Animals roar.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
I think it is one roar for the real Lion
that show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
I thought it was fine, it was enjoyable. I didn't
love it, like I said earlier, but I had a
good time with it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I do feel like it's one of those you had
to watch it back then to really like it. But yeah,
as far as nineties like Creature Feature, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
A solid ass movie, especially when you put under that subtax.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Oh yeah, it's a it's a great way to kill
a couple hours.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not too long.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
It is a little slow. That's my biggest complaints where.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
It's but I feel like that makes the lion scenes
stand out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
More because those lion scenes are fucking great. Yeah, the
attack in the in the car, the truck thing with
the gate is great. The hospital scene is great. Everything
with the lions is shot and stage really well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
And even though I'm kind of joking about Val Kilmer
and you said he got the Razzie nomination most probably
mostly for Moreau, but I actually was kind of like
at the end when his wife really did show up,
I was smile and I was happy for him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
So it touched me a little bit at least, really
was the accent, he just accent do it, you know,
just don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Some of those scenes where he's staring off into the distance.
I think that's necessarily his fault. That's them kind of
leaving that in there for a little too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Yeah, but no, I think it's fine. Uh. I did
look up. There is like a shout factory Blu ray
is there. Yeah, but like it's just theatrical trailer. There's
like that thing. I guess did have a bad time
on this and didn't want to revisit it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
That's ship Manama went fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
They hated that movie, and I love that fucking movies.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I just have hospin He's coming around.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Yeah, but I guess, just to add an addendum to that,
maybe we need a four K transfer and they fixed
some of those scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Get an HDR release.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
So it is from like two three years ago that
it was like from a four K scan, but it's
a regular Blu ray.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I want to see an HDR one. Get those blacks
really enriched.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
So they have it in four K. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Still, I'm sure Shadow release a bare bones fucking four
K event.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Yeah, I am gonna have to pick up the blue rays.
By the way, Like this isn't streaming anywhere really, It's
on Amazon, but you have to rent it. Yeah I
did have to rent it. Yeah, I thought I had
a tape of it and I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, I definitely have it, so I might have illegally
looked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
And it's an old DVD, and I'm like, I'm like,
I go, I'm gonna order that YouTube did not have
that one. I had to throw up the three dollars
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
I'm pretty sure the one on Amazon is the Blu
Ray and it probably pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Yeah. Yeah, but I would say even though it's hard
to find, fork up the money, I guess it's it's
all the time. If you if you grew up in
the nineties and you liked all those post Jurassic Park
like movies, Uh, this is a good one, not the
best one, but it's a good from all the for all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
The movies that we recommend, especially on the movie Dumpster
and Hack, the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Movies like this is a movie movie. Yeah, right, So
I think you can show everyone every mostly most of
them will think it's okay at best.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Yeah, it'll probably a little bit more shocked at some
of the scenes than necessarily we were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I'm saying, it's not street trash or mutant hunt or yeah,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
For it's not like I don't know some of the
ship that I talk about on here with that subspecies
species five or something. It's not deep Rising, which I
like deep Rising, deep deep Touch, deep Rising because it rules.
I like Deep Rising, but that's one that I was
just like, I don't think everyone's last one. You're crazy
if you don't. It's in that vane though. I get
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
Yeah, that movie was probably the best movie of nineteen
that's when it came out, right now, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Deep Rising, No, I think it was ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Right around titanicause Titanic killed it. I guess we joked
about Stephen Hopkins ironically was the one who killed Titanic.
With Lost in Space, which they called the Iceberg, it
finally stopped its rain up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Oh yeah, we talked about that and Lost in Space.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
I'm sure we talked about it on a Deep Rising
episode part of our Blockbuster Bombs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
We both covered that one actually promote.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
His I think this one did okay enough financially. It's
just whatever reason the critics didn't like it, but I remember,
but it is another one of those like everyone I
knew back then liked it. But I'm sure they haven't
thought about it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
And I do wonder if there was a faction of
people that just because Stan Winston's attached, is like, why
is he doing a realistic grant. I want to see
something crazy, but I kind of like that. It's a
realistic animal, something different from the Stan Winston company in
the past.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Did he reuse that for Jumanji? You think? Did he
do jumun?

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I'm pretty sure now that's a class or was that?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Winston not a bit jumon? Why do I feel like
that was maybe a K and B? I don't know, Well,
it was Winston was doing a lot back. It was
a big It was a big yeah. But yeah, that
that is a very animatronic that's the natronic line. They
show a little too much. Looks great. The rest of
it is so good. Still have not watched a single

(01:24:11):
one of those new dum I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Oh God, here's an idea of putting into the ether.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I'm gonna regret best Jumanji. It's kind of I think
they're making one more. Oh god, well, I will I
will double check. I will double check and see if
they're making another one. If they're not, let's if we
don't do that over on movie Dumpster.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
At some point I want to at least cover the original,
So maybe Tony you could join us that point.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
I'll tell you what best Jumanji.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
It is the first first one. Now, yeah a Tora.
Although I was was fun, I will say we could
do worse. But apparently the new ones are OK. That's
how you say, they said Thord. I don't know. I
have watched the movie since two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
All the hack offs are at home breaking out the dictionaries,
like who's right on this one?

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
I remember liking the movie, thinking it's okay.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
I don't really want to rewatch out Well, those lizard guys,
I mean aliens, It's like Goes to the Darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
It's yeah, thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Now I'm gonna go get ripped up and watch Craven
the Hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Oh god, I review that. We did, me and Monica
we sat here for three hours, my god, for three
talking about all the Sony Spider Man spinoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Should I watch Morbius?

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
I was thinking about it. You haven't watched It's I
had to review Morbius and Adam Web twice. Can you
believe it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I go, I watched all Fantastic fours. Is it's better
than at least some of those. No, oh, not cutting
the new one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Obviously, Craven was like the only one. I love Craven
the Hunter. One of the best Spider Man villain.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
I've been waiting for him, and it was like, let's
do a Craven movie with out Spiders.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I was gonna say, I said in the episode, I'm like,
I always wanted to see Craven the Hunter on the
big screen. And then I paused and I went fighting
Spider not whatever the fuck this? And now we don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
I mean, I'm excited the suit looks good for the
new one, not to just keep going off, but I
do just wish we could go back to the rainy days.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
I'm just it's my fucking self. As much as I
love the m c U. Well, they got it as
a concept.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
They're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I think that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
So Scormpions rumored to be back, Scorpion's supposed to be there,
maybe mister negative Spider Man, well, it's it was already overto.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
It's it's Hulk and Punisher and fucking Scorpion confirmed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Yeah, I don't know about Hulk. I'm not throwing to
hear that. It's good. I mean, I'm looking forward to
me Sure, I feel like they might have just Spider
Man might do well. But all the other ones, I
feel like they just Doomsday. Baby.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I'm looking forward to Doomsday and the Secret Wars, but
I'm more looking forward to see what happens after that,
because I want to reset the Mutant saga.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
I think it would be good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
I think it's insane that DC is doing a reset now.
Marvel's like, we like that idea, that it was like
a comic. They kind of need to Yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
I think they should do this movie again at some point. Well,
you said they did it five timely. Apparently they went
really hard in the fifties and then they didn't do anything.
I think we're over.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
They could go in the opposite direction, or just go
in the Marvel train of thought. It's like a future
of ver Lions, or like robot lions or some shit like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Out of a sci fi.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Somebody called Steve Hopkins and be like, yo, dude, we
got an idea combined to redeem yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
I guess we got to do a legacy. He's like,
wait a sequel?

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:27:40):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Yeah, somebody takes the Savo man eaters skulls and and
then puts them on We got bored.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
We never figured out what's wrong with these lines. We
had to clone them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
They get eaten by it, and they get bit by
the spiders.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Yeah, lost in space, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Actually, it's nanotech in the in the fucking line, doctor
Smith can control them or something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
But yeah, Ghost in the Darkness. I highly recommend it.
It's great, it's good. It's good to at least watch once.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Yes, absolutely, especially now in the fucking dog days of summer. Yep,
you'll be right there in the hot canyon desert again.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
I might. I might put this on for the twins
and be like, you'll never watch The Lion King again. No, No,
they might like it. They watched all six Jurassic Parks
and love them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
So this is scarier than Jassic Park. I guess for
a kid. I think you'll find out.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
We'll find out when you hit that phone call that
it was too scary, very late at night.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
They like Alien Versus Predator. It's the only one I
could show them because it's peachy thirteen and they love it. Again,
even that has is like high camp.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, talk about a dark movie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Yeah. Second, now the first one's lit too well, so
they look very rubbery anyway. Yeah, that is it from
by the way I want to. I want you guys
to know how much I love you. Guys. I turned
down the day we shoot this. I turned down seeing
the first episode of Alien Earth early, you motherfucker. I

(01:29:05):
turned it down for you, and not because I missed
the email and I got it too late and it
happened to be tonight. I turned that down. I got
that email and I said, no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Did you get an email from mister Fox? Mister No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
It was funny. I was going through my email like,
oh shit, I was invited and I'm like, oh fuck,
I can't get And I did it out of respect
for you, guys. I'll tell you what. We'll make it
up to you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
I bought that fucking drink set, so make some Alien
Earth cocktails and we can talk about it how that sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
And if you've made it this far through all that bullshit,
Tony's also going to be joining us at some point.
I don't know if it's gonna be during boys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Month or after, but we're gonna be doing a Carnosaur
episode with Tony uh hacking the dumpster the first Cornisaur.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
But we're gonna be discussing all the Cornersaurs as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Yes, and if you want a head start on what
I think am I allowed to plug my Patreon show.
Me and Clayton did do a commentary track for the
first Carnoisaur, and then me and him years ago we
did do like little short reviews for Carnoisour two and
Carnisour three. Wait, we're doing all the Carnoisurs. Well, we're
gonna briefly talk about them. You know how we do it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
I'm probably only gonna watch the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
So bring that Carnoisaur two poster you can. I'll bring
the car.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
It'll go, it'll go real nice. Next on my clock.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
You don't want to, I'll gladly exchange the falcon. Just
hand over that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Oh you know what, I want to show you what
I have. I think they're they're either I think they're Taiwanese.
They're Taiwanese lobby cards of the first movie.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
They're really nice. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
So you gotta go over to movie Dumpster to see
that episode, see all the see all the Cornoisur goodies
movie Dumpster Pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
And I'm excited for that. I think I told you
guys I might reread the book, even though I don't
have to, yeah, because that's not well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
We got to see get CB Smith on for the
book to the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Okay, I mean we can talk briefly. Smith was part
of place month. That's right, total recall at the time.
Back to support CB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
If you want to find out some more movie dumpster stuff,
movie dumpster podcast dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
We're on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Check us out anywhere you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Yes, same thing for me. Hack the movies, check me out.
Consider becoming a free patren I don't know if you
guys do this. I put the podcast feed on Patreon,
the free feed.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Oh yeah, well we do. We do ad free Oh
podcast episod do something similarly.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Yes for the tier good Patreon dot com slash movie,
we also have a five and ten dollars tier.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
No, don't sign up for the We give you t
shirts and stickers and all kinds of but no. Yeah,
so sign up at least as a free member because
then you get like the free feed, but also it'll
automatically upgrade you randomly. Pretty cool. I put some free
samples out. I switch them up every month.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
We've got to up our fucking Patreon ship man. There's
just not enough time to day not lately anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Dude, I don't I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Looking a lot to take looking forward to November.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Yes, you know at some points being a patriot. At
some point we're gonna get back to trancers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
We got like three more left, I think so we
did three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
We have four or five? Yes, and that spin off. Yeah,
well with the chants, it might be four or five, six,
and then we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
We'll talk into that fucking Pumpkinhead two video man for
the video.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
We're gonna doing that. We're doing that for October. That'll
be okay.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Guessing in the making the Early Days season two episode one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
No, no, it's in there somewhere. It was season two
when you were doing the game series. What the is
that called?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Escaping me? Just like just like yes, oh yeah, yes yeah,
Pumpkinhead two, go back and listen to that episode.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
The Point and Click Adventure will be running on DOS.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
It'll be great. But yes, that is it from us.
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