Urban Legends: Final Cut Is Better Than The First! - Hack The Movies (#415) - Hack The Movies

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, everyone, Tony from Hack the Movies here and today
we're talking about Urban that's right, Urban not Ubron Legends
with an S final cut. Is this a surprisingly really
good sequel or is it just more early two thousands.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Late nineties trash. Let's find out today on Hack the Movies.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Apes, we're talk talking talk talk talking about tapes. Crystal,
we're back, Hey, Tony, we're back. The Urban not Ubron.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's not Legend. Yes, the Urban Legend episode.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
This entire time, I thought I was Uban.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, the Urban Legend episode surprisingly did well. I didn't
think people cared much about that movie. Why I don't,
I don't know. But you know that had two theatrical
films and a directed video sequel.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I uh, by the way, and the last one I
said two directed video sequels.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
This one actually made it the theaters.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I had no idea. I didn't even didn't even know
the first one he was existed. I don't think I did.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think you did.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
I don't think you've seen it, but I think you
knew about it. Yeah, so that had two films, it
went direct to video. So do you think in twenty
twenty nine we're gonna get a Scream five. I know
you did Last Summer twenty twenty five style reboot sequel.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you think Jarrett Letto is gonna come back and
be like thirty years ago I went to this college. Cool?
You think Rebecca Gayheart's gonna come back as the villain?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh my god, it would be amazing. Basically, what's yes?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm sorry doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Doing a legacy sequel for I know what you did
last summer is not the bottom of the barrel, but
you're definitely reaching. If we do a legacy sequel for
Urban Legend, we've officially hit the bottom of the back.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's the bottom of a barrel because there's so much fun.
I know, what you did last summer is such an
iconic horror film, and you took an iconic horror film
and you kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Horror film, not French. That's the difference. Scream was an
iconic franchise.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, and Urban but like Urban Lega isn't a successful
franchise but not really just the.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
First one, and then I mean this one. I guess
did okay enough to do a direct video sequel.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, but it's still fun. You're not expecting much. I
expected more. I know what you did last summer, but
like this, I would just expect fun.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So I had never never actually seen this sequel before
I realized while watching it, I'm just like, did I
see this? I feel like I might have seen this.
I remember seeing the mask and everything, but no, I've
never seen this one before.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I have not either.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, so I went in fresh to this this morning.
This is written by Paul Harris Boardman and Scott Derekson.
This is an early Scott Dereckson movie.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's a lot of early movies or like, there's a
lot of people even just in Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, So Scott Derekson has gone on. He wrote a
bunch of movies. This Dudo wrote a bunch of movies together.
But Scott Derekson has gone on to do Doctor Stream
and The Black Phone. Now he's doing The Black Phone too.
He's done a couple of segments in VHS of the
VHS movie.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's really freaking good.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, he's really really good. I mean that the day
the Earth Earth should still remake suck, But other than that,
it's really really good. Uh. He made like the one
really good direct video Hell Raiser movie. It was Inferno,
which was the first directed video movie. It went downhill
after that. Yeah. Anyway, this is directed by John Ottman.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, yeah, who is a huge.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Collaborator with Brian Singer. H pre cancellation, I guess, uh so. Yeah,
he's worked on pretty much like all the X Men
movies with him, The Superman Returns. But he's also an
editor and a composer.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
He's a composer. I feel like he's more composer than anything.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, he's only directed to movies. He co directed something
with Brian Singer and this and that was it.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Do you know what other he worked on for music wise?
I think it was the I don't think he was
the composer, but he was involved music wise.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't know. I'm thinking of a bunch of movies.
But do you you're not.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You wouldn't guess this one snow White, The one was
Gourney Weaver.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Review.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't think so, because I was, I mean, unless
we did and I forgot. I was going through because
I was like, uh, who is Like what else has
he done? And just nothing but composer and music. I'm scrolling,
I'm like, oh, awesome music, awesome music.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Holy shit, Yeah, this movie Crystal. Some people right now
might be going. When did you review the snow White
movie with Sigourney Weaver, the horror one.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Snow White that ever existed?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yes, we reviewed it. The snow White. Was it a
grim fairy tale? We reviewed it on Patreon.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
So it's like a tale of terror.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think it a grim a tail of terror. Yes,
snow White a tale of terror.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
The tagline was a grim fairy It was really freaking Yeah,
we reviewed that on Patreon. Or if you're a Channel member,
go back and watch that. That was a fun one.
I had fun looking back at that one.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
So John Atanu he also correct it, edited and composed
this you know what movie. He We've actually talked about
John Amen before. Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
He did some of the music on Halloween h too.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yes, I did see that.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
He was the one who they completely like, well not completely,
some of it stole in the movie, but they mostly
got rid of his score and got the screen guy
to come in. So yeah, he went into this film
wanting it to be more tongue in cheek than.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
The previous movie.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Thank god I read that before I watched, because it
made a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I went in this movie knowing what the first one was,
and knowing sequels, you know, will just kind of go
a little downhill most part.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
So I was like, I didn't have much expectation for this,
and as soon as that first scene that we're going
to get into and I was like, oh, this is
gonna be a great movie. And the thing is, this
first scene sets the tone rest of.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
The movie, and I'm like, Crystalilpiler this, I'm gonna I'm
gonna I need to see right landa the end.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I might love this fucking movie. I'm not sure yet.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I'm just gonna go.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, let's find out, Let's find no.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, I'm gonna it's so fresh, I'm gonna go through it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And at the end, I'm gonna realize if this is
trash or if I ended up really really loving.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
This dumb movie? Why not both?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Why not both?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So it starts off there's a girl on a plane.
I guess they're coming back from Hawaii and it's storming
like crazy. I did read this was supposed to be
on a boat. It probably would have made a little
bit more sense, but then the production got access to
a plane from some other movies just stopped using a plane.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Set and they're like, shit, we got accent, or let's
we write it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's now a plane scene.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I was very.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I guess you could wear Hawaiian lays on your plate
ride back from Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Anyway, it's storming like crazy, and she's freaking out because
the nerdy guy from Jason X is sitting next to her,
the guy who made the weird sex robot in Jason X,
and he's all like, do you remember see that one
where the thing was on the wing and remember when
that plane crash and like, shut the fuck up, guy,
And behind her is the curly hair blonde from Valentine.

(07:08):
We'll learn her name in a minute, and she's making
out with her boyfriend and they want to join the
Mile High Club.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I love her so much because she was also in
Legally Blonde, Yes, and she was also in or Not.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
She was in White Checks Yes Yes.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
As soon as I saw her, I was, and Legally
Wi was just a year later.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That funny.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I do think it's funny that Jamie Blanks directed Urban
Legend and Valentine and then she's an Urban Legend too
and Valentine. Yeah, I think it's great, like almost a
year back to back. This was like two thousand. I
think that every one was two thousand and one. They
start hooking up in the uh which we'll call it
the bathroom, and then she sees a note about how
you're going down.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
And then she reads it as the guy's going down.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah. And meanwhile there's a crazy madman with a knife
killing everyone on the plane.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
On the plane a guy randomly the knife on the plane,
I know.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And she's running away from him and then she runs
into the cockpit and the pilots are dead. If I
was the killer, I wouldn't have killed the pilots. I
probably would have kept them alive to be honest, or
at least save them for the end.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
And you're going in this thinking this is the first
scene of the actual movie, which is right. You're like, wow,
this is a really shitty movie. Really really.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
When they when they showed the killer's face, I'm like, well,
obviously not to I've looked at the poster. I know
it's a fencing mask for movies, and I'm like, this
has gotta be something.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
And it gets weirder, it gets like worse and worse.
Act the acting gets worse.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know what I watched recently. I did watch the
beginning I watched from Dustle Down two.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
You re see the second one.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
So it opens up with uh, oh god, I forget
her name and Bruce Campbell being stuck in an elevator
and bats attack them and everything, and you turn. It
turns out it's a movie within a movie. So, like
I was sitting there, I'm like, Okay, this is gonna
be a movie within a movie, and sure enough it is.
What I didn't realize was this movie takes place in
film school, and I'm like, oh shit, hi guys. When

(09:13):
I said that made stop yes, And as I was
seeing that, I'm like, oh fuck. I should have called
Angela for this one, because we did our senior thesis together.
So I didn't expect it to be in film So actually,
at this point in the movie, I'm like, Okay, they're
making a movie. You find out that they're in film school,
and I went that is way too complicated of a
set for film school. Holy shit, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Like later in the movie, You're like, how do all
these how what kind of fucking film school is?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know so many questions for later, like, but
the thing is that kind of that see if that
was actually part of the movie. Yeah, I wouldn't have
been surprised because I was like, oh shit, this is
gonna be hilariously fun.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
We learned that the curly blonde is Sandra Ava Mendez
is in this. This is an early Ava Mendez movie.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think her earl.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think her earliest movie me and Kayley talked about
it was Night at the Roxbury. She's one of the
bridesmaids at the very end of Night at the Roxbury.
This is an early one for her. She's Vanessa. Then
Jennifer Morrison, who I think was on that once upon a.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Time I watched that. She's really good on it.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
She's Amy and then Abington, Pennsylvania's own Joey Lawrence TV's
Joey Lawrence. Sorry, Joseph Lawrence is Graham the rich kid asshole. Yep,
he's from Babington.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I know that. But he does play a really good
rich kid asshole.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
He really does.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
It's like it's a little too natural at it.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So, like I said, takes place in a film school,
and I was like, oh, I'm gonna love this. This
is gonna be great. And then Hart Bockner, who is
ellis from die Hard and he was the asshole guy
from Batman, Mask of the Phantasm, one of the Joker Poisons.
He's Professor Solomon. Okay, so he's talking to the students

(11:02):
and we realized two of the students are hold On
Anthony Anderson, and I saw Anthony Anderson.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm like, this just keeps getting better.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
There's so many freaking people.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
And so he Playstan.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
His friend's name is Dirk stupid name, and he was
a kid from like Free Willy. He acted in a
bunch of movies, but he's also a writer and he's
co written a bunch of Egger write movies. He did
Scott Pilgrim. He's doing the New Look at that and
he's doing like the New Running Man, because I'm like
that guy looks like oh yeah, free really. But else
he's done, like, oh, he's a writer on a bunch
of movies. So yeah, they're the asshole like horror fans

(11:38):
in the school and they're all competing, and I keep
forgetting there's a creepy kid who's always in the rafters and.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Creepy random but I kind of like that element.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, it just it was for the ending. Yes, I
like it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
For what they set up in the ending, that was brilliant.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Like you also don't know, like you also throughout the movie,
you're like, is it him? He's just like this creepy p.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So they're competing to win the Hitchcock Awards.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
They're very into horror. Yeah, a lot of the students,
So in your when you went to film school, was
everyone obsessed with horror? Because I feel like horror A
lot of people tend to look at it like they
downplay horror a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Not really. When I was in film school, everything was
kind of treated equally.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
If anything, I was getting shipped or doing a comedy,
well we'll say, we'll say that for an Angel episode.
We have horror stories of senior thesis. But now it
wasn't really like that. And like this whole thing, I
don't know what kind of university of this is.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
If this is more prestigious than ours, was more than
Temple University.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I definitely had money.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, Sour Temple.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I mean I love Temple, love Philly, but.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's also Temple.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
But senior in our senior thesis program, Uh, there were
like awards we could win throughout the year, and then
there was like one big one we could win like
at the end. And I think my roommate won a
couple because his he had the best film.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
You didn't win, Tony. I thought you were an.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Award winning No, no, no, his was shot a lot
better than mine.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wow, memory the best. I thought you were this, you know,
famous amazing filmmaker Tony.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, I didn't shoot on film. That was one thing
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I was just I went a little bigger, so I
had to, like, you know, be a little a little
thrifty on how I shot it.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
And have been director in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
But I could have been. But no, like, it wasn't
really that big.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
But actually the one guy who kept winning, like he
didn't even finish this movie at the end of actually
good no, but he didn't even finish the fucking movie
at the end of the year. It's come on, and
that shouldn't be allowed anyway. So there was that aspect.
But it wasn't as cutthroat as this movie. Maybe I
don't know how it is at other schools, at least
the one I went to.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Maybe there just wasn't that many awards because at least
you had other awards happening. Maybe this is the main award. Well,
they also said later in the movie how someone went
off to be this big famous director and when they
won this, So who knows what the ward actually entails,
Like do they get to go do this other thing? Yeah,
they don't actually talk.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
About what it is other than like a trophy that
like you did a thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So anyway, Uh, he's talking about this award that you're
all gonna get, Hitchcock Amy.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Uh, yeah, the Hitchcock Award.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Amy is conflicted because she doesn't have a script idea
yet and she's walking through the weirdest architecture ever. So
the film this at a university in Ontario. Uh, the
school was real. The big tower was built for the movie.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Because I guess that it interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm sure it was like hollow. Obviously the interior wasn't real.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
That was someone else, But I guess. I guess because
the first movie had a tower, they wanted to mimic
the big tower. So apparently they spent like one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Was there a random lake though, like a fucking random.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I was looking at the pictures. It is by water,
so yeah, it was. But she's walking through that thing.
It was just these big cement pillars, all jagged. I
guess that was actually there. It's cool looking.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It is cool, but to look like a universe. I
was very throw it all randomly. Oh, I kept forgetting
they're in a university, so she's.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Walking around huh uh. And then I swear to god,
I was not expected. I really didn't look up much
about the movie. I was not expecting fucking Reese, the
lady's security guard from the first movie.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was so happy when I saw that.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I was like, really, really well, now if they ever
do Urban Legend four, they gotta bring Reese back.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
No ship. What did was she in the third one?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't know she was.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'm wonderful.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I hope she was.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I really spoiler she doesn't die in this movie. I
was so scared she was gonna die in this movie.
So I was like, no, save save.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Is our.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
In Scream, Uh fucking what's his face? Yeah? Five, Reese's
ore dewey.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, so Reese U picks her up because she's like,
what are you doing walking around at night?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Get in the car, you dumb idiot, Well.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
You don't ask me for my badger who I am?
And she's like, can I see your id She's like,
I'll have that.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
She's just they bond over Pam Greer. She does, and
she talks about how like she loves Pam Greer so
much she got gold trim on her gun, which I
couldn't believe was foreshadowing to the end of the film.
I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. When it
comes back up, I'm like, oh, come on.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
She pretty much mentions Pam Grier in the first one
is she loves She's well, she's definitely like that's her icon,
but it also keeps coming up throughout the movie for her,
and it does wrap around. So I love the fact
that it wrapped around again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah. So she's driving her back and the girl's talking
about how like, you know, she's trying to think of
an idea, and Reese tells her what happened the herb.
The girl's like, oh, I heard about that was an
urban Legend's like, no, it was real. Girl killed a
bunch of guys. The university covered it up as if
the family of the victims wouldn't just tell people like,

(17:11):
what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't know if the university has that much power, if.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
A town can cover up all these all these.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Murders, Oh shut up.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
At this point, we have already talked about the now,
I know he did last summer, but at this recording,
we haven't. Oh god, yeah, you know, maybe maybe that's
where they got it from. Oh yeah, she's like, the
university covered it up, pretend it was an urban legend
and everything. I like, a lot of people died, the
dean died.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
You can't come up, you know, at the end of
the first one, they said it was an urban legend again,
which is weird. Yeah, she exactly wasn't that old. She's like,
the fucking killer was right there.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
So she tells her like the story was like, yeah,
they did a bunch of these urban legends. Anyway, I'm
gonna let you go now.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
And then how they covered it up, and you know,
the she wouldn't go along with it. They fired her
and she had to find another university to work at.
But she doesn't say it's her. She goes, you know,
it's not urban. This is what happening. You know. The
guard just happened to get fired.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm not saying it was her, but.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Love it. She gets out of the urban urban legend
as she's so good enough.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
So the next day, Amy goes to the professor who's
bored listening to some other guy, and she's like, I
have an idea. It's about a killer who does urban legends.
He's like that seems because she's like more known for documentaries. Apparently,
He's like, okay, uh yeah, sure, if you want to
do that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Then we cut to two people, Lisa and Travis, having
drinks at a bar and someone spikes both drinks.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Who's also legally blonde, Warren the main guy.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
This might chot, this might shock you.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I maybe watch Legally Blonde once, uh the year it
hit video and I retained no knowledge of it. What
I know. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Classic.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I know.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Casey tells me often that it's a classic.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's actually really good, like it's not just a chick flick.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like it's a girl situation.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Am I gonna like it?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So, okay, I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's funny, I'll give it a shot. It so literally
a dumb blong going to school, like for to be
a lawyer in.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
The Why is there no legally read I.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Know, I like red hats. That's just what it is.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
We keep getting replaced, not anymore red Sonia. This comes
out in September. When that movie comes out, you're excited
your people. Finally that movie's been sitting on a shelf
for four years. I'm sure it's great.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Love that love that that is.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
They put the trailer out and I was just like, oh, yeah,
that's right. They started shooting a Red Sonia movie years ago.
And at this point I'm sure we've talked the original
on Patreon. Yeah, we gotta do that. Both their drinks
get spiked. Travis Leaves and Toby played by Hansom Mount
brags about being a director and she's like, cool, you
buy me a drink then, and it's like whatever. She

(20:14):
goes to the coat room and gets the drugs kick in.
She gets kidnapped by the killer.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yep, this was an interesting first.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, oh kill, the interesting first kill because had Brenda's
plans worked in the last film, it would have been
the last kill because remember she was gonna remove the
girl's or the very end. She was like, I'm gonna
do my favorite. I'm gonna put you in the bats
up and remove your kidney and sell it on the
black be.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
The first fucking killed. That's actually funny. I forgot it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah yeah, So yeah, she wakes up at her kidney's removed.
Apparently they had to shrink like a goat kidney because
the goat kidneys are bigger, So.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
They bought a kidney for the movie, and I just
drink it. So yeah, she wakes up and the killer's
just like cleaning his utensils and stuff. New jacket. He
has a just a leather jacket this.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Time, and a fencing mask, although I don't think you
see the fencing mask yet.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't know why he went with the fencing mask.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Is this now that we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
This?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Was this that same night that she told him about
this movie?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
De we? So you think you think that night?

Speaker 3 (21:42):
No other explanation.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Spoiler him knowing what we know at the end, he
was like, what am I good at jew?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
How am I gonna kill all these people?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And then that happens as everyone knows what There's no
other way because why else would it be?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
All these urban legends. She's literally doing the urban legends
he just happened to be doing the ones that she
talks about. Is she discussing this with him that we
don't see what.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
If Amy was like, I'm gonna I want to do
a movie about killer robots. Would he have been in
the science lab making a robot that night?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
That's what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're right, this feels like a very because he already
had a plan to kill all of them.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But I guess the Urban Legend.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Night unless it just because skipping really far ahead, he's
not really inspired or knows anything about the original. No,
that's the thing. I can't believe he heard one thing. Yeah, sorry,
it's heart Backner spoiler by way, And by the way,
it was also really obvious that it was heart Backner.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, that's very.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
True. Yeah, So she comes in, I want to make
a movie about an urban legend killer, and then that
night he's like, well, I want to go to roofy
those two.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
But exactly like it, did that happen in that sequence
or because there's no way he had that plan before
she told him.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
There's he was definitely gonna kill them. I just think
the Urban Legend thing was to spice it up anyway.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Because that happened right, like, there's no yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That is I didn't think about that, and that's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Well, he wanted to frame her so as soon.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
As I mean, I guess yeah, because she was I'll
do these urban legends and frame her.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm like, oh my god, that's a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
There's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Was your first plan? Had you not know?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
The whole framing her was more of, Oh, she's trying
to shoot this movie and make it so realistic she
actually murdered them, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Kind of he kind of gives up and anyway away,
let's go through this, let's go through this. We're gonna
I feel like we're gonna come up with more weird logistically.
So she wakes up and she tries to sneak out,
but he hears her. Uh, she locks herself in the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Was even she didn't even I'm not gonna lie that
for this first one really threw me off because he
did it. Why would he take out her kidney and
then murder her?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I guess because it was an urban legend.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I don't know, you just have to you, but urban
like that wasn't a murdering urban legend. That was like,
I just took out your kidney urban legend.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, and then it's not even like he left the
ed Okay, so yeah, So he attacks her. She's trying
to break out the window. There's an angry dog outside
she has to avoid. Uh, he's able to and.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
That is gross.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
When he's like ripping into her, he pulls her in
and decapitates her with the door with the window yeah
cut in conveniently can rip off her.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Head in one Well, I thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Then he throws the kidney out for the dog to eat,
and I'm like, well, didn't you want to keep that
around as like evidence?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
What do they say happened to her? Because they mentioned
she's dead later?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
They just say they found her dead.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't think so. I don't think they mentioned her
a No, I think they did, did they?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Because then they say, because then Travis disappears, remember what
they say about him?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But I don't know Travis committed suicide?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I know, no, But I think they said wasn't it overheard?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Do they know it's over the movie? They don't ever
talk about her? Oh? No, she because she was going
back to l a that night she's taking a plane,
so I think it.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Was just gotcha, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Sorry, sorry, we really got thrown for a loop with
the bad guys his last minute plan and now we're
trying to pick they're very confused about.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, so this girl, he murders her, but the thing is,
no one's looking for her, so no one even knows
that she's dead. Yeah, and doesn't even know that it
was an urban legend. So why even do the urban
legend in.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
The first place, Because the movie is called urban legend,
Urban legends, urban legends.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
This is like aliens or twisters.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I guess, like as soon as you realize it's a
movie and you're like, oh, that's why it's called final cut.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Amy tells Sandra, who's drinking a fruitopia an urban legend
about how someone was killed on campus when people were screaming.
So it's like at midnight, the people in the dorms
would scream to let out stress, and while they were screaming,
someone was being murdered and no one could hear them
screaming because whatever, stupid urban legend. Then they name more

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urban legends, and then Toby watches this movie and Sandra
really can't act.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
She's the worst actress in this movie.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, they said, like she her like porn stars are
better than her.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, like it was even bad for Born. He's like, yeah,
I know, I've seen her. She's not goodding those either.
She can't act at all.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
She's like, ah, makes up random moves too, Travis.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
So Sandra's was like Toby's like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Travis is editing his film and Amy gets scared by
Anthony Anderson, his friend wearing the jackets from the first
film Jesus with a Frankenstein mask and a Dracula mask underneath. Yeah, jackets,
because when they were walking down the hall, you saw

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the furry trim of the jacket.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm like, oh, why didn't they just do the jacket again.
I'm not saying you have to. I'm not saying you
have to.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Actually, well, they didn't know what the killer was wearing.
They never talked about that in the urban legend, So
how would they know if the at the university covered
it up, how would they know what he.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Just like movie wise, because like, I know, it's stupid
when different killers wear the same thing in the movies,
but it's just iconic, so you have.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
To because it wasn't dark enough, I guess because that
way you can see the face.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
But it's just weird that they didn't think to go, like,
all right, do the jacket again. They actually were brave
enough to totally switch the costume.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm happy because it makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Not since Friday the Thirteenth, Part three has someone been
there staring and changed the costume so drastically when they
went our killer looks a little too much like a
guy from another movie, but a hockey mask on.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Anyway, she talks to Travis about her script idea and
he's like, yeah, let's hang out a Tuesday and talk
about it, and she goes, okay, I'll call you on
the phone. It's just like totally blowing her shot with him,
like like, why did they just say that.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I couldn't tell what grades they were in, which like
who was a senior, who was a junior? I didn't realize.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm assuming they're all seniors.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
They weren't.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
They weren't.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, the other two, the ones Anthony that they were
doing special effects, they were only juniors. They say it
later in the movie. Okay, and the other one. I
think the creepy PI I think was only like a
fresh erse.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
So I got very confused with like, who's doing the thesis?
Are they just helping out? Are they just friends? So
I think there was like a weird thing because I
almost thought she was younger and they were editing because
he mentioned the thesis but they were already filming. Yeah,
so I was like, wait, is he just talking about
it again because she didn't come up with a thesis.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
They were already filming and basically done in editing, and
and Travis.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Also there multiple thesis That's why how we can.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Used because Travis was already submitted his film and already
got graded. She didn't do hers. But are they doing it?
So they're all involved with each others but they don't
have to be all involved. And how is how's everyone
else doing their thesis? I don't know, Like did you
when you were in film school? Did everyone work on
the thesis? Is together?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah? It was all at the same time, but not
like we worked on some of us helped each other
out with other movies, but no, we were it was
all on us.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
We had to do it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But like, we were all working on it at the
same So the fact that they're already shooting and she
still didn't submit weird. Yeah she did.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
She just submitted a script idea and the stay around
the same time Travis got his grade.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, bizarre, doesn't make it.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I guess they just had to figure out how can
we quickly get him.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I mean, it's, as you said, Temple University sucks and
it's a garbage thing and everyone goes they're idiots.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Maybe this prestigious.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
University has like, you know, different Uh, multiple thesises are
happening at the same time because it's so much better
than the one I went to.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Apparently, well you could have went to like University of
the Arts or something.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Nah, what do I care.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I didn't even graduate from Temple.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
I didn't graduate at all the right there, So why
didn't you graduate? Then?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I'm really bad at math?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Did you fail?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
You fail college?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Well, just math over and over again.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
You couldn't over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
You couldn't pass math to pass college?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
No, I couldn't. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Wow, So wait if you just took a math course,
now would you be able to have I mean, it's
probably too late now, but to just get it, tempt it,
they made me take math. Yeah, I didn't have to
take math. I had to take like maybe two Liberal arts,
but everything else because I went to college for BFA

(31:13):
in theater production and I never had to take any
I don't have to take math.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
And don't like it.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Anyway, back to this, No, I worked.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I worked shows I had to take in my school.
I had to take twenty two credits and almost all
my classes were one credit, and that was us putting
on shows NonStop, so that way they could sell tickets
for people to come see the show, as we were
paying to put on the shows.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I would sometimes skip classes to work on my film stuff.
That's how dedicated I was to fill in video.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
And then that's so you.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I was a really bad student. I liked doing the
thing I was going to college for. I didn't like
all the extra stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Did you just put on your I guess, well you never't?
Have you ever had like a real job, No, so
I guess it doesn't matter. Fuck you? Sorry anyway, a
math anyway, please, let's go. Do you say that on
your first dates too?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I finally aged to a point where they don't even
ask about it, and I'll just lie in the future.
No girl, I will ever watch the show, so I
can just say anything.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
So Amy and her friends are talking about her movie
and some urban legends that they can use, and then, uh,
what they're talking about how they can make They're talking
about the dead dog urban legend when the girl finds
her dog in the tub.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
And most of these, Yeah, they're very weird. I feel
like they might be made. I don't know, maybe they
are real.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
They were really really they the first one did all
the popular urban legends.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
This one didn't. So they.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
The effects guys are like, we could do that with
latext and stuff and what do you call it. Graham's like,
my dad will give us money and we can do
it digital.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
And I like cause these like digital latex rules.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And then they go the guy goes, oh, boy, George
Lucas loves digital. And then he goes, fuck George Lucas.
Because now this is very timely. We live in a
different time now, Crystal. People forget so many people right
now are pushing this narrative that Disney ruined Star Wars.
Have you heard of this?

Speaker 3 (33:19):
What?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, they're saying Disney ruined Star Wars with wokeness and
all this stuff, and they're like, Kathleen Kennedy ruined Star Wars,
and I get confused because they're all idiots. George Lucas
killed Star Wars. He ruined Star Wars. He's responsible for
it being dead, and he's responsible for all the garbage
you're getting now. He killed it because he hates you.

(33:41):
Why are you always defending him and the prequels and
the specialty.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Because they only think about the first three see.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
People back then now, I was too young to realize
George Lucas was ruining things. I was like, no, Star Wars, Spaceships,
I'm an idiot. But eventually stop being fifteen, I learned
these things. So it's fun to go back and watch
movies from that time that we're called out George Lucas
for ruining everything, and I'm like, this is this is
very refreshing. Digital sucks man, late text rules.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's not what your god, George Lucas says. Because now
I have people pretending Kathleen Kennedy's.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
The problem, Like, no, she's the new problem, but he's
the one that ruined it.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
He made the.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Force back tis also did make the first three. He did.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, he had help with better writers.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Though, but he's still. Without George Lucas, there would be
no Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
The problem is when he got more power, they got worse.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
You know what, Let's just think about the first three
and just leave it that way. I forget the others
even exist.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, it's just nice though.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I know people that literally say about.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
The documentary people versus George Lucas, people forgot, like everyone
hated him because he did ruin Star Wars and Indiana
Jones and now they're worse.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Anyway, there are people that do think the neck the
following three are better. There are a lot of people,
and I'm hearing that more.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
The new trilogy or the prequels. Yeah, some people were
young enough to grow up with it.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
They're like, and I think that's why. It's just I'm
hearing more and more people say, no, those are the
best ones. I'm like, are you?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Are you? Okay? It's like I remember thinking that in
my teens, but I'm an adult now and I'm like,
this writing makes no sense anyway. We've already reviewed all
the Star Wars, go back and watch our What is
the worst Star Wars. Toby interrupts this and look, in school,
people will accuse other people plagiarizing and stealing their ideas,

(35:28):
but this was so fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
He's like, you made a horror movie. You stole my genre.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's like, wait, what that's that's not a thing, that's
not a you stole my genres, but like.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
The whole thing was. It's Hitchcock. It's the Hitchcock Awards.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But even she's just like, no, our scripts are similar,
I guess because there's like a killer, but yours is
like a slasher and mine's very different and like, but no,
he wasn't even mad about that. He was mad that
she was just doing horror, even though it's a completely
different type of horror film. And I'm like, that's insane.

(36:07):
When my roommate when we were in thesis said he
was doing a comedy, I didn't go up to him
and be like, you motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I think Angela also did a comedy. I didn't know
who she was, but at the time, at the beginning,
but it would have been awkward if I, well, it would
have been awkward if I went back went there.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Like how trr.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
You do a comedy, you binch more so because I
wasn't friends with her yet, so we're like, why did
that guy come in yell at me? I couldn't believe.
I thought he was gonna accuse her of like stealing
like the plot. But he goes my genre Like that
doesn't make anything.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
But there's not enough genres for each one to do
a different genre.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
I know there's I guess he's mad because she does
documentaries and now she's switching to this. It's just which
I would be threat which I would know I would
be thrilled about because I'm like, oh, she's totally out
of her element here. She's probably gonna fuck up. This
is her first time doing this. Yeah, I wouldn't be threatened.
I'd be relieved. Actually it was so dumb. I'm like,
this is the best thing you could come up with.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, that was weird. Remember when I said I was
a bad.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Student, you be bad at math?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Travis is completely devastated because he got a C minus
on his film, and I have it here. As a
straight DNF student, I longed for a C minus. I
celebrated when I got C minuses.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
See as the complete opposite of that. I can relate
to Travis. I used to get upset with myself. If
I got a B, I think.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I would have been the happiest day of my life.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I was a straight A student. The very first time
I got a C was in third grade and spelling.
I never even gotten a B before that, it was
only straight ace. And in third grade I literally wanted
to die because I got a C in spelling, which.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Meant imagine if you were me, d d d f
f f d d d F.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
The worst thing was anyone that got as and b's
got to play the cornet the right. The cornet is
like a trumpet, yea. And I wanted to do it's
so bad. And I got one C and I wasn't
allowed to do it, and it like devastated me tremendously.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Very different people.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was a straight A student, I.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Would have been like I would have been like, I
don't even care about that stupid thing.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I gotta see, yeah I can.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I was upseted I didn't get my extra credit to
be like one hundred and and five or something like that,
Are you kidding me? And then when I went to
high school because I went to a votech school with
a whole bunch of like fucking smart people. We were
all super competitive and we're like, wait, what grades you get?
What you get to find out? I just went to

(38:43):
a school for like a week in intense schooling and
stuff like that for my career and myself, And of
course I get looped in with a whole bunch of
other people. We were comparing grades because we also actually studied.
I hadn't done a studied group in forever. And we
were so intense. We were like, what grade you get?
What grades you get? And we were all so we
didn't get one hundred, Like, we didn't get every single
one correct.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I again, anything above a seventy. I'm like, I'm a winner.
I'm a driver, I'm a winner. Things are gonna change.
I can feel it anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And this is why we live the way uh successful
and lives in Florida. Who are you with no job?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I have a job. It's this dumb shit. Also, also,
you haven't said anything.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yet new mic stands.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, because my my thing was broken for like two
years and then a guest one broke and I'm like,
I'm not gonna deal with a guess fidgeting with it.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So I bought what nice ones so.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I can break it.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
No, it does, it does. Actually they're similar to the
other ones.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
We have the black move nicer and I don't get
like I made a post saying, guys like, there's new
mic stands. They're not red. Don't give me ship for
them not being read. They didn't have red eva.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
No one would have noticed.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh, you're right, I should have said that because they're
Riley demand that he will only be on the show
with red mic stand So the last non broke, I'm
saving the one red mic stand that's not broken for
only Riley visits until it breaks, and that I'm throwing
it away.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I get almost guarantee not a single person would ever notice. Anyway, Wow,
they're nice.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Actually, no, say it which okay.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So he's devastated and I when we talk about the
twist with this film at the end, we got to
go back to this because it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I'm like, wait, why did he.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That? Like wait, he didn't ask, like they just said
c minus they didn't review the film for him, and
he didn't go, wait, that's not my film anyway.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Oh yeah, I think I don't think he was in
there when they reviewed it. Well, that was my thought
process when we look at the end where.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well he could have been, because he would have been like,
what the fuck I didn't.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Make exactly, So I think when he submitted it, the
professor took it, changed the film now, and then admitted
it to the group of people.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Still like that and there's so many holes in this plan.
But she needs another DP and he recommends a guy
named Simon, very farign guy. And then there's just no
where did he come from?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Is he a student?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't know, but they go here. The scene changes
to them setting up to make the film. But like,
when it cuts, there's just a gunshot sound for no reason.
Did you pick up on that. It's a scene with
her and Travis. He's all sad, she leaves. It cuts
to a building, gunshot sound, and then it just cuts

(41:36):
them setting up. I'm like, what the fuck was that
gunshot sound? And someone die?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Oh wait, is that Travis killing himself?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You say that, yes, but I didn't catch the gunshot.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I just picked up because they say later, but it's filmed.
It's thrown awkwardly where you're.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Like, you don't realize it.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, Oh that was that was a mess. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I have questions about that too, because you see his
head later and I'm like, how did he get his head?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah? So they get ready to film and they fake
an accident to scare Amy. They show off the makeup
effects on her and everything, which I would be pissed,
and it's like, that takes a long time to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
You guys wasted a bunch of time.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And also a whole special effect.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, and she's not even supposed to have that in
the movie. And Simon shows up with a really nice
camera and a ridiculous accent.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Uh fuck did he come from?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I don't know, Travis founder, But like, does everyone.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Working on it have to be a student? Is that
a thing?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
No? No, I mean mine were students. I had friends
from other schools and stuff helped me film My.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Shit, It's like everyone's a student in these except this
random Simon guy. Where the fuck he come from?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I mean that's something you can do do you can
get another cinematographer, a random.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Foign cinematographer that's creepy, that hits on all the women.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Are there any other types anyway? Uh? They film it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Uh, and then they leave. And speaking of wokeness, Vanessa
is a lesbian in this Get this woke agenda out
of my early two thousands films.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Okay, I'm so glad that you're saying lesbians weren't allowed
in two thousand The Wokeness.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I remember a time people were like cool hot lesbians.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
And now now people complain about it. Well, not all
of them are hot anyway.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
That's funny because he said, can I give you a
lessons like you already did.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I'm not gonna have to use that one at some point.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
That's good luck.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Who's gonna go up anyway?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Anyway? Uh So, she apparently was gonna have a smaller
role in the film. Yeah, but they added more scenes
because they wanted her to be a red herring. So
that's why the killer never really chases her or anything.
So they added more scenes. And also because it's Ava Mendez,
who's hot as fuck. I would have made her the
main character, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I think she's.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, she's ridiculously gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
That one so pretty.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I don't think she is much of a red hair until.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
She's not around for any of the killing stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
So she has a lot of the others.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Well, that's you have multiple red.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
They all feel I don't know. I didn't feel of
her as a red herring. I just felt like she
was a good friend. That's how I felt more until
the one scene where you think that. I was like, oh,
maybe she is, and then that quickly dies that thought process.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So, yeah, they go away and uh oh oh. Sandra
goes to her car and hold on punch Buggy Red,
no punch back.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Oh you guys are red. Punch Buggy. I had that
on my notes.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Did you like you were? Were you that excited to
do that?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I had it. I saw the red. I wrote punch
Buggy Red to remember her to punch you had to
hit me?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
No I did.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Sandra was looking for her keys and she can't find them,
so she digs through the fake guts on the set
for whatever she put them there. Why was she Why
did she have her keys on that outfit door in
that scene? I don't know. But the killer attacks, the
killer was laying in a sheet. How long was he there?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
How did he know that he was coming back?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah? If she had what if she had not forgotten
her keys or what if she decided to walk when
he had just been laying under there in in a
fencing mask, not being able to breathe. Yeah, so yeah,
he comes up. He starts recording the kill, but she
doesn't do too often. Really, this is like the only
real time he does it.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
That's film. The other one is on camera.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, so he films himself attacking her, and thank god he.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Killed her because she is a terrible actress. They're watching
her clips.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And so much.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I was actually really said that she was like one
of the first.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah, she was. I think she was like one of
the first in Valentine. Also, she was an early kill
in Valentine. So they're watching the footage or they're making
fun of her acting, and then they play the actual
footage of her being killed and they think it's like
a prank or it's like fake, but they also think it's.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Their best act.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well there's dramatically different.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, and then so no one thinks it's real. And
then I do you get Stan's joke about Oj? He
said OJ left more blood in the bronco And I
don't understand because OJ Simpson was innocent. I don't get
the joke like I get if O J Simpson killed someone,
but he didn't. He's innocent.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, So I joke didn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Bad joke.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Bad joke because he didn'tleave blood anywhere. How can he
leave blood anywhere? Crystal?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It didn't It did not fit actually, so he had
the killer snuck into the room to play.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
The reel for everyone and then grabbed it and ran away.
The fuck was the point of that.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
He clearly has no life and he's very miserable.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Deer is I wouldn't be like, does he fucking cliss?

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I want to I've only seen this once and I
now want to rewatch this knowing who the killer is, Like, this.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Guy's an idiot. So the students find out that Travis
died and it was deemed a suicide in the campus tower,
which I guess now now that I'm saying it, that
does make sense for the gunshot. They just put the
gunshot in a weird place, so they're.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
All to it like nothing. Just uh.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So, no one questions where Sandra is because she mentioned
that she was going to be a dead body on
ar so they all think she's off in er Land,
which is similar to the first movie where the guy
said he was going to hang out with his friends
and then he gets killed and everyone just assumes he's
hanging out with his friends.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
That's also happened to Valentine.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I think it did too.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, yeah, where she was supposed to go off to
la and they all were like, hey, have you seen her?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah. So Graham looked into Amy and found out that, uh,
because they're always shitting on him for being a rich kid. Yeah,
but he found out that she's a little bit of
a NEPO baby because her father, her late father was
a famous documentary filmmaker who had won the Hitchcock Ward
years ago. So he's just like, all right, you're kind

(48:14):
of like me. We should be working together.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
But did he just like research all of his classmates
and did it take him like four years to figure
that out?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Maybe the Internet didn't work as fast back then. What
isn't it like he's using dial up? It didn't work
as fast. So whenever he was about to get information
on someone, someone picked up the phone went ah, fuck,
oh you.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Heard the person on the other line of the phone,
and then like, your mom's listening, And then you're like, fuck,
why are you listening?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Mom?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Shit?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
So Amy investigates the tower and she sees a man
running around and it's Travis wink.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, it's his identical twin brother, Trevor Why.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
And he and they both have a scar on their cheek.
Do you think both brothers had that little tiny cut
on their cheeks?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
I honestly was like, this has to be fake, like
he has to be the killer. Maybe he didn't actually die,
Like there was no way. I was like, this is
the stupidest idea. It really is his identical twin in
this movie, Like, yeah, they just popped out of nowhere,
like no mention, no nothing.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah. So he he doubts that Travis killed himself, and
he's there to solve the crime, but he says he
can't go to the cops, but doesn't say why. At
this point, Amy films more of her film. They take
a break and Simon won't show that creepy pa is camera.
He's like real mean to him. He decides he's gonna
walk out while Amy is recording ad r of people

(49:51):
screaming at midnight.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
But like, actually at midnight? Why why does she have
to actually film it at midnight?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
These are good questions because the script demanded it.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So they're recording, she's recording them screaming at midnight and
then the killer shows up.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Time.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
How did the killer know she was gonna do that?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
How does the killer know which which urban? Unless, like, well,
she did submit the script she.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Did, I guess, But how do you know she's gonna
do ad R screaming that very night?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Anyway, so he pulls the big lens out of the
bag and is beating the shit out of the guy
as they're screaming, and she kills the dude, but like,
no one else is around, no one else is around,
no one else is around, and the security's not around
because they're watching Pam Grier movies apparently.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, Amy comes out and like finds the things. She's
like hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
She sees the cameras, and she goes to the security
lady and she's like, I need to look at the footage.
She finds the footage of the guy like killing, and
then she grabs the tapes and keeps them. I think,
whatever happened with those tapes, I forget If something happened
with those.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Things, you don't remember because I was trying to remember
that too. Yeah, Like it's clearly proof. Why don't you
do something with it? Yeah, like just this campus secured.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Unless they disappear in this scene because of this scene
is when she watches the tapes in a room and
then she looks over and she sees someone in a
monster mask.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
But it's actually but kill her.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
You never see even later, like he doesn't grab him.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's not seen maybe when she went into the water
or something.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
No, because he's right there. He doesn't go back in.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
No, but maybe they're like, damn it, I don't know
he follows her.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But also I want to know real quick. Reese doesn't
believe her, which is very odd because Reese is very like.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Four like odds it'll happen twice.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
But okay, you should be able to believe a student
someone's killing, not just off of urban legends. But hey,
there's someone attacking someone on campus. That's a little bit
more realistic.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
No, she doesn't believe.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Against it anyway.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So yeah, he shows up with the monster mass reveals
that he's the killer. She kills the lights and runs away.
She makes it outside and falls into water. There's just then.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Looks like a Friday the thirty scene.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And I was just like and then there's like and
then there's like a drain to a tunnel. He sees
her and he's gonna chase her, and then suddenly she's
on the set of the Nostromo from Alien, which they
intentionally filmed it that way where it's all the pipes
and the strobe lights and the fog, Like, why does
this look like Alien?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
This is this is the richest, like like there's special effects. Yeah,
should not have looked so bad when the set looks
and filming like it just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
So Reese bumps into her again and she's like, how
did you know I was here? She's like, there's cameras here,
so she's she looked at the cameras to see her running,
but not to see the killer.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah, yeh yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, but yeah, She's like, yeah, they're going to see this.
I just think it's vandalism.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
She's like, but it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I was chased.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
It's like they're not going to believe that, Like why
wouldn't they believe.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
You have it on cam?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I guess here they must have said the tapes got
taken or something, or they got you actually.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Have footage of this guy chasing.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
No, but I think maybe they were damaged or gone.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, those tapes. But now you're in the university and
this guy in na mask is chasing her.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Maybe they didn't have cameras in that room. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
The camera's in a fucking tunnel, but they don't have it.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
You need cameras in that tune. Trevor insists that they
can't go to the police because he was a bad
dude and he has a criminal record. Apparently. I feel like,
when you think your brother's murdered, they will excuse any
other crimes you did. I think they would take that seriously.
It's a very weak reason to not go to the police.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Did he say why he was a bad guy?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Now they glossed over it.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, did he murder? And they're still looking for him.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
It's like, did you murder?

Speaker 1 (53:48):
What the fuck? We're going to the police after being
attacked and knowing that people might be getting killed, she
should be running away Instead, she gets ready to shoot
her next scene.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
They plan to shoot the Tunnel of.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Terror scene for her movie, and the professor is very
interested in this scene. They're setting it up and like, yeah,
it's based off an herbal edge where someone went through
a tunnel of terror, but then all the bodies ended
up being real instead of fake bodies. Cuts to them
going to an old mining ride, like an old coal

(54:26):
mining ride with animatronics.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
They're like, oh, we're cold miners. That's an animatronic Are
you gonna do it an animatronic thing?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
You're doing it so well. I can't I can't compare.
I thought you were animatronic for a second.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So they turned the ride on. They're setting it up,
and they're like, Okay, let's test it out. Let's do
like a dry run to see what this looks like.
And Crystal Yeah. So Anthony Anderson and Dirk are working
on the mechanics of it and the killer he put
a coal miner costume on top of his costume.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
He put a wig and a hat on top of
his fencing man.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I loved that. I thought it was funny, and I
laughed out loud.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I was fucking dying, like, you gotta be hitting me,
you gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
He was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
He had no other mask to wear that day.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
He had to wear the big bulky fencing mask, and
he had to put a wig in a hat on top.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yes, and saw like a flannel shirt. He had the
whole outfit.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yep. He kills Anthony Anderson and Dirk. He like stabs
them and electrocutes them him.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Amy goes to look for them and she gets chased
by the killers and then they leave, and then Reese
is arguing with the cops and they're like, yep, just
electrocute it.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Even though they were clearly stabbed.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, they're just.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Electrocuted there, and Trevor's just like watching from the woods
and didn't interfere, and she calls her out on it.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
It calls him out on and it's like, why weren't
you there?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
And he's like, I found.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Information, but why didn't When the police ask Amy, is
there anything else? And Amy says no.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Because Trevor guest lit her into thinking the cops won't
be able to help. I would have told Reese at least,
but like, yeah, it's annoying. So yeah, she yells at
Trevor and remember, well, yeah he's a douche. She falls

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asleep with him, and then we cut to a scene
of them fucking.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah and I have it here. We see more of
we see more of his ass than we do any
of her tits really upset about.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
That, and I went, never mind, it's a dream sequence.
He stabs her in the dream and she wakes up
and she's like, ah.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
She got really close, really fast with him. Yeah, like
no one thought that was kind of creepy. When he's like,
maybe we miss something. You're just tired, go to bed,
and he's like laying next to her, not the dream
in real.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
That's not that well alone.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
But she was crying, like leaning on him and don't
leave me. Don't you don't even know this guy.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, so that was awkward.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Amy goes to the tower and finds Vanessa and she
said she got Amy's note.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
But they don't ever say what the note says.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
It was probably like hey, I want to go a
muff diving on you.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah, it's I was curious about it. Like they're like,
I couldn't believe it was like from you.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
She's like, I didn't know, but I'm very interested. How
you doing, lady, And she's like, I didn't write your note.
I'm not lesbian.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
You're like, oh, but they didn't say anything about it
being lesbian, Like, well, it's heavily implied, but then a
dead body, a fake dead body randomly there and you
just see her sitting there like it's also like a
little bit of up. I thought it was like, oh,
it's definitely a fake out for us, Yeah, because if
you saw the first one. Yeah, it felt like the
ending of the first one.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
So they throw the fake body on the table and
the killer comes out and starts chasing them up the tower. Uh.
Reese gets an alert that there's activity in there, and
she just says, Oh, it's just rats, and we cut.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Through a rat in the.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
It's like, how about you just check. You just checked,
just to be safe.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Come on, there also be rats. You would notice that before,
wouldn't it always be going off?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah? Yeah. So Vanessa gets grabbed and hanged, and Amy.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Is locked in a closet with corpses all the missing bodies.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
But wouldn't Trevor's face right, No.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Travis, I think.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Whatever his name is, Travis, Travis was that one.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Wouldn't his head be Like, wouldn't the body have already
been gone to by the police.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah, that's the weird part, is the head.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I think that has to be him because it's him
and the girl.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
The blonde.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Ye. First, it don't make any sense. He should he
shouldn't be in there.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
No, And it also didn't really look like his like
head was exploded like they said he put the gun
in his mouth and it That was stupid.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
That was stupid.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, he should.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Trevor does show up though, after they get away, uh,
and he tells her that all the victims worked on
her on his brother's film except for Amy.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Yeah, why didn't Amy work on it? With every single
older person? Did it?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, I'm about to find out. So it turns out
they watched the film and they're like this is terrible,
Like this is Travis's movie.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
This sucks.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah. But then she sees that there's a splice before
the credits yep, And it turns out Travis's credits were
attached to this horrible film. Now, if I was Travis,
I'd been like, what exactly was wrong with my film?
And when they started describing what was wrong with the film,
I would have been like, that's not my film. What
I didn't make that?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah, if someone gave you agree, wouldn't they explain like
the Yeah, so when you got your thesis, you did
your thesis? That did is did they discuss it with you.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
We were talking about the fl them all year long.
We had to show like rough cuts and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, we had to show like what we were
working on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So that was why it was weird that they handed
in a completely different movie and passed it off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It was so dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
So wouldn't that movie There'll be another students, I guess so.
And did no one realize, no, like what happened to
that other student's film? Then where did this other film happen?
Did no one realize?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
But also who was in the film? Did they not realize?
Like was it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
There's a lot of holes in this person's plan, but
they think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Like random people like he was like, Hey, I'm gonna
shoot it with these random people that never yeah, just like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
It makes those sense, It makes those as Wait.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
The credits that say these people were in the film,
their students were in the film as actors. Weren't actually
in this other film.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It makes absolutely no sense. This plan would have fell apart.
It was so stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
So and not any of the other teachers would have
noticed the splace.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, that was the weird thing. It makes no sense, Toby.
They think Toby is the killer. They think he switched
the credits to steal the movie, and they confront him.
They set up like a fake car crash.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Should see maybe if it was his horrible film spliced
the end, but it clearly wasn't because you see a
little bit of the ending.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
You're completely different.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
I don't know what Toby's film is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, I like that they staged a car crash or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
And then Travis's or Trevor's pretending to be Travis, and
it's scares that he's like, ah, so uh, they pretend
to be him to get him to confess, and they
even called Professor Solomon there so they can get the confession.
And Graham is sneaking around for some reason because Joey
Lawrence had to be in the finale, I guess, yeah,

(01:01:52):
uh so Toby, Yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
No reason for him to even be in the finale
except we know he's not the killer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Literally, he doesn't play.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It, and he's and Addington, Pennsylvania's own Joey Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
But he literally doesn't have an important he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
He really doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
He doesn't contribute in any of the scene.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
He doesn't see He's just there to be the extra
hunky dude.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I think the only thing he does was what he's
the one that does try to hit with the chair.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah, so uh Toby, I like Toby reveals He's like,
oh no, I didn't actually see his film. I'm like,
that credit's fake. I just asked for an audio credit
so I could uh pass. And then this is when
Professor Salomon decides to reveal himself as the killer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Means I gave you an hand sound for nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
And goes I gave you an a for no reason,
and then shoots him into a spaceman set, builds big
space alien set.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
That was a really good set. That was a really
nice set.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, Graham sneaking around.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
He takes uh Graham outside, next thing you know, he's inside.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Like yeah, and then he takes Trevor hostage and he's
like I thought I killed He's like, I'm the brother
and he's like, oh damn it, I didn't know there
was a brother. But yeah, we learn his motivation in
the cemetery set. They make it to the cemetery set
and he's just like, yes, the Hitchcock Award came down

(01:03:19):
to two people me and your dad and he won
a guest person or no, oh no, no, didn't come down
to him. I misremember, Yeah, I misremember. Her dad didn't
win Hitchcock thing. Her dad was the guest director who
picked and he picked the other guy. But it's like,
but dude, you were like a runner up, Like you

(01:03:40):
could have still had a decent career, Like it's not
how this works, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Have you never seen American Idol where the runner up
he always becomes famous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Yeah, so, yeah, he's devastated and he became a teacher
and he's mad that he's a teacher not a big
famous filmmaker.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
That sounds like a hymn problem.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah, so he saw Travis's film, Yeah, and he's like,
this is brilliant. I'm gonna steal it for my own
and put my credits on it. And then it's gonna
be awkward when I do interviews and none of the
actors know who I am, and I have no answers
for how I came up with the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Thing, and the fact that every single person on it
is well, no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, well that was the he was trying to kill
everyone involved. But I'm like, did you kill all the
actors involved?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
The people involved in the film didn't tell their friends
or family what.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
They were working on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
There's no way you could have killed everyone involved to
cover themself.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
So many actors in the films, like they only call
unless it was like only the really bad actress or.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Maybe I don't know, but she wouldn't probably.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Even been in it though. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
It's weird. I guess she was in it, but if
it was that good, there would have been other actors,
other crew. It's so bizarre.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
If it was that good, yeah, it would be more
than just because everyone else was more on the technical side,
not really acting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Yeah, his plan makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
So they get into like a big fight with everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
The Reese shows up and she's race.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Graham not in the film or worked on it, because
the killer never tried to go after Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I forget. Maybe he was eventually, I don't know. But
his plan was to frame Amy. Yes, and she's like, yeah,
you got into your movie too much. You wanted to
do this. Reese is racist and she judges Amy by
the color of her skin. Hashtag not all white women are.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Killers, no, but we're crazy groes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Without saying but she shows up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
She's like, I've seen this one before, that crazy white
lady's the killer. And it's like, no, not this time.
And I want to be like Reese. This might shock you,
but the white man is the bad guy. I know,
it's hard to believe. No, it's hard to believe. I know,
ridiculous thing in this movie, but I wanted to be
like Reese. Actually he is the bad guy. So no

(01:06:06):
one trusts each other.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
There's like a scuffle and there's just a rack of
fake guns.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Well even in the beginning when they had the gun
shooting at the other guy. Yeah, it was a prop gun,
which I thought was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm like,
the gold trim is gonna let her know which gun
is the gun?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Yeah? That was great. I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
So they have each other at gunpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
His gun is fake, and right then and there, they
should just tackle him. Yeah, Instead they let him talk
and he's like, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Are you gonna shoot me?

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
And I like that. She goes those who can't do teach.
Then he tackles her and he gets shot. Yeah, and
he was outnumbered.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
He could think. It was so stupid how they did that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
But yeah, Reese knew the whole time it wasn't her. Though, Huh,
Reese knew the whole time it wasn't her. He was
just she was just playing to play it off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
No, I don't think so. I think she showed up
and was like, shit, another white girl.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No, I didn't think she knew until the guy went
all bad guys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
But even she said, he's like, oh, this is my sister.
Like at the end she was celebrating with their real
harm and being like this is my.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Sister, like, oh at the very end.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
But at that moment when she walked in on them fighting,
she didn't know. She just assumed the first movie was
happening again, and she was like another bad lady.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
So yeah, we cut till later and they're giving out
the Hitchcock Award.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
No, she did know because of them, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Oh he revealed no. No, so yeah, she shows up. Yeah,
she shows up. She thinks she's the killer. Then he
reveals something. She's like, how did you know I did that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
He gives it away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah, So anyway, cut till later they're doing the Hitchcock Award.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
It's a memory of Travis.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
And then the creepy PA's got a gun and this
is after Kylebline.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
I'm surprised that even let this in there, and he's
gonna go shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
But then the hero, Reese, who I guess is an actress,
now turns out this is a movie within a movie. Yeah,
shoots him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
He falls into the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Crash pad and it turns out this is Amy's movie,
a suspense thriller about a killer in a school, and
the people will save her. So yeah, it's it's like
a success or it's gonna be a success. Graham is
telling people she needs a three picture deal, and everyone
is really really happy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Maybe this actually the entire movie was actually her movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Maybe maybe I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Think the entire thing was actually the first one was
a movie within a movie within a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Probably you know who's watching this movie, Solomon, who's now
like handicapped and sad in an insane asylum. But don't worry, Crystal.
He made a new friend. Yeah, and I got a
heads up on this one because I said the last one,
I'm like, yeah, she never came back, and someone said like,

(01:08:56):
oh no, she's back at the very end of part too,
and see.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
That I think we have a lot in common.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Brenda shows up from the first movie now pretending to
be a nurse, and she's like, you hate that movie
as much as I do. And then she goes and
she looks into she's like mugging through the carriage. Is like,
it's like, I think me and you have a lot
in common. We should be friends. And it plays the
Alfred Hitchcock theme song and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
She just wheels him away.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
She just like flying that they're gonna team up and
become a killer to us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I love it. I love it. I love that ending.
It made me so happy. It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Okay, the killer's plan makes absolutely no sense. There were
too many holes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So what happens in the third one? Do we know?

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I have no idea. It's called Bloody Mary. I don't
know anything.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
I glanced at like the cover of it. Yeah, I
don't think any of them are in it. Can we
review the third one for Patreon?

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Yeah, well, let's see how this does.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Maybe we can everyone wanted the second one and watch
no one's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Like on Urban Legend, Bloody Mary. I'm sorry, Urbie Legend,
Urban Legends, Bloody Mary, I kept it with the s
directed by Mary Lambert, who did the pet cemetery movies
One End two Uh, Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Uh oh uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It's almost entirely unrelated to both of the films that
came before, using supernatural elements instead of a who done.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It formula, let's watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
The film follows three high school students who inadvertently summoned
the coast of a dead high school girl who starts
coming after her old classmates.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Oof.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It's written by Michael Doherty, who did Crampis and Trick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah, yes, I know exactly who is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
And Dan Harris, who also worked with Brian Singer. Oh okay,
that's oh. It stars a young Kate Mara.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Okay, it sounds good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
No, it doesn't sound good at all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
But Michael Dohrt like, maybe we should.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Try it out, Maybe we should try it out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yeah, okay, but this movie Urban Legend's final cut.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I think I like it more than the first.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
One because it's so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, and the film school aspect, even though it's not
realistic at all. I kind of enjoyed it. I kind
of really enjoyed. I liked it way more than I
should have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
It was really clever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Tongue in cheek was like, maybe that's because we're poking holes.
But now that I'm thinking about I'm like, I don't
even really care that much because this movie doesn't really care.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
They're like that whatever exactly, it's not. It wasn't meant
to be a serious horror film. It's just a fun
It makes fun of itself. It makes I think it
makes fun of making it horror so serious too. Yeah,
it's just fine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Yeah, I enjoyed this one a lot. I might watch
this one again. After watching Urban Legend one, I'm like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Don't think I'll be watching this anytime soon, but Urban
Legend Final kind of like I could.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I could watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I'm kind of happy that I went to as a
theatrical one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, I think I like this one. Yeah, I enjoy it.
I enjoyed. If you've ever seen it, if.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You were like me and you skipped it because the
first one's not great, give it a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
We mean, the first one's not great, it's fine, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Guess the one it's okay, give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I think you will enjoy it and let us know
if we should do the third one. Yes, the third
reading the third one, it feels more like a Patreon one,
but since we did these two guys, we might have
to do the third one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Watch this one multiple times so it does really well.
Lots of comments thumbs up. The positive vibes over here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
On this one also also remind Crystal she needs to
get closer to the mic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Wait, I just realize how far away you are from
the mike.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I don't have to boost your audio again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
No, because everyone yells at me for being too loud.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
You get too far from the mic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Well, it stop boosts me so loud, everyone yells at
me saying I'm too loud. That is it from us
on another co host where you can try and photo shops.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Oh yeah, you and the dark You and Frank in
the Dark Night are just leaving the frame, Like what
the fuck is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
It's funny because Frank also throughout the episode comes over
and like this is harm on me, or touches me
and gets real close and I'm like, I've noticed Frank
was like really close to me in certain points.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
And then on the midway through entity of like they're
just leaving the frame they're just leaving the It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Because I did not want to get closer to the
smoke machines, so I'm surprised I went more that way.
Tear this entire thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Yeah, that is it from us. Please like, share, subscribe,
please join the Patreon watch that, uh the snow white
one and at this point we should have red sonya
up there, the original one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
And yeah, consider joining up as a free.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Patron if you don't want to pay, because the podcast
feed now goes to Patreon. It has better notifications. And
I'm going back. I'm adding YouTube and Rumble links to every.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Description what are you doing things?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
And you get a couple free samples when you sign
up as a free patron. I changed them. I just
changed like I just go back and pick like five things.
But I switch them up every once in a while.
So depending when you sign up, you'll get like a
random thing. Uh and it will auto upgrade you. Sometimes
it will randomly auto upgrade you. Uh yeah pretty much. Yeah,

(01:14:45):
so considering, So consider signing up for free over there.
It's just it's just better notifications. Really, I always hear
people I didn't get any of your I didn't get
any notifications about this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
I get a lot of That's how I find out
what movies were reviewing during the month is when I
get a Patreon one because you don't tell me, and
I'm like, what movies are we doing? You're like, I
don't know yet, And then I see a Patreon email.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Will Sometimes I will just add it and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I should email, I should text everyone. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
It's like a week before the day we're going to
do it, and I'm like, what are we watching.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
At the time of this morning. I haven't watched like
a bunch of them. I got to like binge them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Oh yeah, I'm watching a well, don't say it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
By the time this is out, it's already out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah, I'm watching Fantastic four tomorrow. I haven't seen anything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Go back to the July wrap up to see what
she thought.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
What did I think?

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
We'll see what happens. We'll see if I'm even in
the wrap up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Actually end up making that. And this is probably after
Boys month three, which I assume was a huge success.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
About August.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yeah, and we're recording this the week before and I've
only got one episode shot, so I'm sure I got
every episode out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
This episode specifically is not going until September. So you
have Boys Month?

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Yeah, you're an idiot? What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Because she didn't film anything else yet?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yeah, I know I gotta film more Boys Month stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Put on like a mass.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
No, Crystal, who would believe you're a man?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
No one really give me?

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Give me?

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And Kaylee they all think that would be great. Kayley
and I are in an episode during Boys'll be like, yeah,
I knew they were.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Never. Never do I ever get tricked by someone in
a costume?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Never? Don't watch the Missus taut Fire episode.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Crystal? Where how can you? Like? Crystal?

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Where can we find you? Are you so bad at this?
Like five years? Are you so bad at this? Instagram? Twitter?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Many things?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Instagram? Twitter?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Where?

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Twitter? What's Twitter? X?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Yes? Where can we watch? You posted about pilates or whatever?
And jumping into fake coffee mugs with your boyfriend? Where
can I find those? We're in like a big like
fake What was that that you jumped.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Into that was a cold plunge?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Was it a shape like a coffee mug? Though?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
No, I thought it was like a novelty one. I
knew it was a cold. It was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
It was like cold bludge. Can hear like it was
just like a crystal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I usually go on Instagram very early in the bag,
so I do it was cold bludge. My braid was
probably like thinking coffee and then changed the cold plunge
into a coffee. We literally did just it was just
like a double And what's the handle to find.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
That Crystal Quinn?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Some of them say miss Chris, miss Crystal Quinn. Some
of its Crystal Quinn. I don't know. Very thank you
because the apparently someone else wrote Crystal Quinn. There's not
many other Quinns with one end, but you know someone
else had to be it. Uh No on x Instagram,
maybe doing more tiktoks. I'm trying and I want to start. Yeah,

(01:17:44):
I want to try to start a streaming more again.
I keep saying that you and Johanna keep saying and
I were supposed to a podcast together and that never happened,
and now I moved. But I've been on my hometown
ghost Stories a couple of times actually recent, so I
checked that out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Oh did you see see being Gil talking about reviewing history?

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
It was so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
So I didn't see you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
So I went on reviewing history and I at the
top of the episode, I made a joke. I'm like, well,
am I a special guess because you guys decided to
have Crystal and Gil before you reached out to me,
and this crack gill up because they go, oh, hey,
Crystal's episode was great, and Gil's listening.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Like that's amazing. What the hell that's so funny. Yeah,
they looked. I mean, we did the Marilyn Monroe it
was great, and they wanted to be back multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
And then yeah, I think you did the conjuring too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
I think I only did the one thought.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I think he did one of the conjurings.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I could be wrong, Oh, I probably, yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yesterday I should hit those guys up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I did great. Maybe I should have asked them if
I could do a review with them today instead of
doing it with you today. They might be more successful.
I don't know. I'm trying to get on all these
other podcasts. Hey, if you have a podcast like I'll
join now. I know a few people hit me up
before as soon as I left Fight the Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Be permanently co host and you should be guesting. But
let's not get crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Well, you know, I'm not up here. And I'm like, hey, Tony,
you want to film a couple episodes, and you're like,
here's one, here's one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
It's been a very busy month. It's been a very
it's been a very busy summer. I booked too many
drive in events. I went to way too many driving events.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
We shore doing events now after I'm going Jesus, I'm like, hey, Tony,
let's let's go and do more events, and let's go
more places and let's you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Know, I want to go to Spookela is being rebranded
as Scare of Dice. They change their eating to Scare Dice. Oh,
so I want to do another one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I can. I can go to Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah I will.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
It's maybe not this next one, but I do want
to book one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Yeah, it's a three hour drive, so I can do
that and then we'll have a car.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yes, let us know, let us know where we should go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
I will make an effort to really go somewhere this
year outside of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Yeah, I want to make more. As long as I
know in advance, Yeah, I will actually take off.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
I will find out Anyway, that's it from us. I'm
going to sleep for ten years now. Goodbye guys, Fuck
George Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
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