What Is The BEST Tron Movie? - Hack The Movies (#427)

Join Tony and Adam from  @AdamDoesMovies  as we talk about the Tron trilogy and try to find out which one is the BEST Tron movie!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, it's Tron in time. Am I right? Because
a Tron. We're talking about all the Tron movies today.
I even got in this very expensive screen accurate Tron suit.
This is definitely not red masking tape. This is definitely
not damage when I had this as a Wolverine suit

(00:21):
and then ripped the tape off. This is a brand
new suit, screen used. Jared Leto bore this suit. We
went all out with this one, and I think you're
gonna be impressed with my co host. He said he
was getting a suit together. Let's bring in Adam. Oh
you god, damn ass?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What but what are you talking about? This is like
a red Maroon red. It's very Jared Leto, It's very
on brand. Great great job at him, Great job, great job.
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I set the memo like I always do before these,
I said, where a screen accurate Tron suit.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You didn't address me as sir as people often do,
so I did not take it serious.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh man, Yes, today, Tron, Tron legacy and Tron aries.
They keep trying to make trona thing trilogy. Yes, it's
a trontog Adam, real quick. I feel like I was
in Tron today.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Really. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was at the gym being really cool, you know,
which is kind of like what the programs and what
not do. They're really cool in buff and doing cool moves,
and I was like lifting weights and I get an email, Adam,
this is the second time this has happened to me
in my life. While I was at the gym, I
get an email saying, your channel's been removed from YouTube. Oh,
and I went, I went, oh, no, I have to

(01:44):
look for a new career. Turns out it was the
Clips and Streams channel, which is still pretty bad but
not as severe for spam and deceptive practices.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
And I went, Adam, I looked at that. I went,
not on my watch.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I got the nearest laser I could, and I
lasered myself.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Into YouTube s grid. I put this suit on, I
got a disc, I started playing techno music.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I went into YouTube's master control program, which ironically is
still just a big giant red face, only it has
a white play button as a nose because it's YouTube.
And I shot my disc and I got my second
channel back.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
So the cycle was that made me shoot my disc
just now here. That's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
So yeah, if you guys were were wondering for two
hours because I know you guys were looking up all
my clips and streams and you were upset you couldn't
get them for two hours. We're back, but now more
than ever, it's an important reminder to become a patron.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Please. This is very very I don't know what the
word is.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm full, stressful, yes, unsteady whatever signet. Yeah, but I
think we could all agree my job's more important. I'm
talking about tron movies and a costume.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Uh yeah. Considered joining the Patreon even if it's at.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
The free tier. You get the regular podcast feed and
all the free videos, but there's better notifications because YouTube sucks.
So Patreon's becoming your hub for anything, even if you
don't want to pledge.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
But if you do pledge, you can.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Listen to the new Halloween four commentary track I did recently.
That is a lot of fun. Uh yes, and oh
I were already into the review part of this. Adam,
Let's talk about tron original Tron is.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
The tronk that was the year Adam was graced upon
the planet.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, and if you were older, I'm sure you would
have been there day one, or maybe you were there
day one.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Maybe you were My mom actually delivered me in the theater.
I actually came out of her in one of the
tron cycles, like the light cycle. Yeah, I'm cruising around.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
This is the brainchild of Stephen Lisberger. He was an animator. Uh,
and he like really got into pong. He saw it
at some like computer event. He's like, what if I
made a movie where someone was in pong and I
assume no one was around here. Him to go, that's
a stupid idea. And thank god they did it because
he ended up meeting a lady named Bonnie mcbird and

(04:32):
they broke the script to tron together.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
A photo of Bonnie mcbird. Yeah, she's an author. I
wanna I want to be photographed with the tea cup
in hand. I want to have the tea cup in hand.
It's paramount. It makes me look professional. I like it.
I want to photos with the tea cup in hand,
looking like you do not want to fuck with me? Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, So she wrote the original script. Uh, Disney apparently
took her script and changed a bunch of it.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
She had.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
There was like some legal action to get her name
on it. Actually, he did research on this with a
computer programmer, a computer scientist, Alan Ka, and she liked
him so much she named the character Alan who Tron
is based off of in the movie Alan Kay. And
she liked him so much she married him. Uh So,

(05:23):
the couple in the movie is like reminiscent of the
couple in real life. This because when we talk about
the sequel anyway, no company wanted this movie. They were like,
that sounds like it's gonna be expensive. And then Walt
Disney went, hey, we've been bombing left and right lately.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Fuck it, we'll do it. Who care, let's bomb again.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
They were trying to shift to more like adult, like
adult but more mature themed films, trying to get away
from like the cartoons, and they were dropping flop after flop.
I think they put The Black Hole out the same
year as this. Movies that people like now, but at
the time they were like, now that's They got an
amazing artist called Mobius, a famous French artist, to design

(06:07):
a bunch of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
This is a fun fact.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
They shot all the sets in black and white and
they colored it after the fact. They were like creating
technology for this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, watch the Corridor crew guys. Yeah, you probably know
that channel, the Cordor crew. They're much more popular than
we are and better at everything they do. But they've
broke down Trontwo, which was pretty cool. Seen some of
the behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah yuys, Yeah, so it was cool how they did
how they colored After the fact, there was computer graphics.
There are only like twenty minutes of computer graphics in this,
but apparently whenever they shot a human with computer graphics,
they couldn't move the camera. They had to bolt the
camera to the ground in a way where like a
car crashing into it couldn't even move it. It must
have been the most stressful thing ever, but it led

(06:50):
to an amazing movie. Hold on, I think I fucked
up my clips. Hold on. Oh yes, the black and
white effect. It caused some weird flick, which is technically
a mistake, but it actually looks cool in computery, and
I have an example of it here.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Look at their bodies when they talk. You believe in
the users? Yes? Sure, If I don't have a user,
then who wrote me?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's one of those like happy accidents. So yeah, they
were designing all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Compewter grad new Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
The artist that I mentioned, Mobius. They brought him over.
He was responsible for like all the looks of science
fiction that you like. He did concept aar for like
Blade Runner, Alien, a bunch of other stuff. He's like
the man behind this movie. He made all this amazing
work that gets totally ignored in the sequel. And then
Wendy Carlos do the music. Who did the music for Shine,
the Shining and backward garnge boom tron clip Adam, Oh god,

(07:53):
what does that sound? Oh god, I don't hear anything.
Oh my microphone hit the space bar and in my
headphones that was going.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You're actually getting inserted into the matrix.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I thought Master Control program was after me again.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I thought, this is it.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
They're like, we saw you activated your channel again.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You have Yes, they're slowly digitizing you into the mainframe.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes, shit, I gotta bring up my thing. Well, I'm
bringing up my thing, Adam. When did you first see Tron?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I saw when I was a kid. I didn't remember
it well at all. So I watched it last week
again for the first time in probably thirty years. Yeah,
and I watched it with my sixteen year old daughter.
And like out of out of most movies I watch,
there's some form of residual residue that stays with you like, Okay,

(08:49):
this is still somewhat great now. Tron does not hold
up at all for me. Outside of some quirky like
that intro where the logo turn and you go in.
There is this kind of cool retro style to it
that does work in moments of the film, like that
shot and some of the practical sets where they kind

(09:10):
of like three D move things around. It looks really cool.
Otherwise it just really does not translate to a like
a well told narrative. My daughter actually thought Tron and
Flynn were the same person for most of the movie.
I'm just a different guy.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I feel like a lot of people thought that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Problem for the sequel. Everything you just said was stupid.
I love Tron. I've never seen it on cable.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No, I know, I know a lot of people are like,
fuck you, Adam. I'm sorry, hell no, you know what,
you know what? The movie's not good anymore.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I if I have a guess on what you're
gonna feel like on the second movie, you probably have
the general consensus. This feels like Blade Runner again, where
I go twenty forty nine sucks. The original is great,
and everyone yells at me. But I have my synopsis here.
I can finally do.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
My thing here, please please.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
The first film to venture forth inside the previously unexplored
three dimensional realm of computer imagery, Tron dazzles with revolutionary
visual effects, mind bending action scene and action sequences. Flynn
Jeff Bridges, a computer whiz who invents video games, finds

(10:20):
himself at the mercy of the evil human forces who
answer to the VHS tape fucked up. They said his
name is Master Control Panel, but his name was Master
Control Program. A panel is like nothing, what the fuck anyway,
A powerfully corrupt computer presence that has beamed Flynn inside It's.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Deathly gain grid.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
There, an electronic civilization thrives and light cycles race at
heart stopping speeds. With the aid of his friends Allan
Bruce box Lighter and Laura Cindey Morgan, Flynn's only hope
is to act debate Tron, the courageous and trustworthy counter program,
and heroic battles save human kind. Uh I I like

(11:09):
this movie, Adam sure, I like it. I like I
understand people looking back and thinking it's a little cheesy. Again,
this was all new. A lot of this was new.
Uh it was at I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Is it, what is the what's the syntax for what
we're judging this on? If if we're going by its
revolutionary at the time, then fuck yeah, this was incredibly
revolutionary in nineteen eighty two. I also just day today
it does not look good. It does not hold up
at all. It's weird and weird and not like in

(11:41):
a funds anyway, weird and just like what like, I
just want I also watched Brain Dead with my daughter.
I don't know if you saw Braindead by Peter is
that uh? Oh? Ed?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I always call it that A lot called here, Yeah
either way, yeah, either way.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
We love the funk out of that movie. And that
is insane. It's gross. Yeah, it is awesome and it's fun,
and I think it holds up really well, Tron. I
really respect the movie. I just like, I have no
desire to sit through this thing. But I Gadi, you
were if you were like an adult in eighty two
and you were into computers and stuff and this came out,
You're gonna have a completely different outlook on the film,

(12:16):
and I have no disrespect for that. Yeah. I don't
know why.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I like because I feel like I who someone who's
much younger than you, Yeah, who was approaching death as
we all know. But I saw this as a kid,
and I guess I just already liked old things, like
I liked old movies, so that didn't I didn't really
judge it based off that. I don't know that light
Cycle chase, hold On, I have a sample of it

(12:42):
here when I saw the light Cycle scene for the
first time, and when they go into like the maze,
that shit was awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It is awesome. Cool is very cool. It is very cool. Yeah, man,
how they can't in this one?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
They can't even see out the sides, right, I know,
it's just little confused, keep By. Video games were still
pretty new, actually, I think at the time this came out,
hold On, when was the big video game crash that
everyone always talks about. Nineteen eighty three, so like a
year after this the video game crash happened.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Did you play the Tron? They had a PC version
of this game, the light Cycle Game, and it was
freaking awesome. I played the shit out of that with
my coworkers.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, did you ever play that one? But I'm going
it I don't think I have. However, I have played
the arcade games Tron and Discus Roun, So again, I
really like this movie. I like that it's kind of cute.
It is kind of quaint. I think that's a problem
with the new ones, the idea of like what if
in your computer there were programs that you wrote and

(13:52):
they looked and act just like you. And it's like, well,
that's kind of stupid. That's not how computers work, you idiot.
But at the time when I was getting used to computers,
it's a fun idea. It's a fun science fantasy idea. Yeah.
One I'm by the way, I'm a big David Warner fan.
And the fact that he plays three people in it.
He plays all three bad guys in this He plays

(14:13):
Dilager in the real world, Sark the bad guy, and
he's the voice of Master Control program.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh that's interesting. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's cool, which means he has to act against himself
and scenes like this.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Cycle. Wait, I need that. That's my favorite scene. Wait,
I need that. I don't know that line delivery is great.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
But no, I mean it is dated obviously, But I again,
I really like the story. I like that it's by
the way, I like that, there's not like really one
main character, like Flynn is our fish out of water
in the virtual world, but it's a team effort between
him and Laura and Allen and Tron because Jeff Bridges
was a big actor, but he wasn't as big as

(14:59):
he get so he could share.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Screen time with people.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't know, it's just a fun, fun time. Disney
took a risk on it. It did not too well, Adam,
because I mean, it's like you were probably like, computers
are evil, They're the.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Devil, of course, right, but I was it just felt
like it. I mean, I appreciate it for being so
revolutionary at the time, but it did feel like it
came out maybe a little too big for its bridges.
It didn't have the technology to make it happen. That's
why George Lucas supposedly didn't do episodes one through three first,

(15:36):
because he knew he didn't have the tech to make
it work.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, he should have kept not making them. I'll disagree
with you, but that's the tech eventually came and then
someone went, hey, you want to do another pass on
that script. Here's the thing, and also it might be
one of those things and actually for all three movies,
or at least the first three. Maybe it was one
of those things where it's like a little two ahead
of its time, because I did me too. Not everyone

(16:00):
like a home computer known was really like computer savvy,
and this is throwing like big words at you and
talking about interconnected programs and the massa control program wants
to hack into the Pentagon, and people back then were like,
does the Pentagon have a computer?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't understand what's what's a computer? What's a computer it?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
But even like the writer didn't really know too much
because people are like, oh, when you named him Tron,
is it based off this uh specific program used in coding?
And he went, no, I got the name from Electron,
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I saw the electronic electron did. So there was a
you have a question, maybe you can fill it in
for me too. There's a scene fairly early during the
disc Base fight and I don't know what it's called,
but one of the guys is like psyching himself up
for the event because he's been training at whatnot? Yeah,
And all I'm thinking is like, what is he training for?

(16:57):
When he? When he when he? How does this work?
I thought? People control them in the arcade, but yeah,
they don't. Also they also have their own events going
on on the side.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It's apparently Master Control. Yeah, that's it's it's kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
The users.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Maybe they think they have control. Remember there's like a
religious element to this, where like people don't believe in users.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Some do. So maybe they were, but they were also
programs that were faulty and like moved into this program, right,
aren't these basically like well that I think slave programs
sent into the gladiator arena to die.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So the whole thing is Master Control program who started
off as a chess program. I thought that was pretty funny.
He's become too strong and too sentient, and he's going
into other companies and hijacking their programs and either assimilating
them or dereting them. Yeah, and I think he makes
them prove themselves in battle in the games to see
if they're strong enough. Again, does it make any sense

(17:53):
when you know what a computer is, but in two
when you're like, oh, there's there's a witch inside this
box and shakes the screen glow.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, he's test seen some of the faulty programming to
see if it's up to the challenge to join his
like Master Race. Okay, yeah, I can kind of get
on board. And I'm still not sure where the end
user comes into play here, but it's its own thing.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
It's fine, yes, uh, And that's Dillager is using him
for all this, I think, by the way, I think
it's one of those like Franken Sei Monster thing where
massa control programs become too sentient, sure for its creator.
But Dillager is also an asshole because he stole Flynn's
idea for a video game Space Paranoids. Yes, which is
which is a name you can only do back then,
So skipping ahead to the new one where they're like,

(18:36):
there's a reboot of Space Paranoids, So like that sounds
so fricking dated the.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Question for you. I was confused by the fact that,
so the original light Cycle game is not called Tron,
even though in the sequel they called the game Tron.
I think it's games are called Tron. So it's very
confusing to like your basic consumer like, wait, it's light
Cycle game, the guy is Tron. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
It became confusing after the fact, I'll give it that,
and the movie is definitely confused. So yes, Tron is
a computer program made by Alan. You're supposed to monitor
master control program to see what it's doing. And of
course Dillinger was like, Oh, you fucking asshole, I'm using
him for evil.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You can't do that. We're getting rid of Tron. Fuck you.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So he teams up with Flynn, who wants revenge, and
that's when they break in. Also at this company, also
at the computer company Adam, there's a laser that could
just remove matter and put it into a computer.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
As one does. That's so and anything else they're talking about, well,
they go into that in the later movies a lot more.
They kind of use that for the main plot. But
I did find it also bizarre that Allan is essentially
I mean, he's the titular character Tron, right, Yeah, but
he's barely in the movie as himself, and in the

(19:54):
final act he's just kind of gone. They don't even
give him closure or the girl.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
It's just it's Kevin movie and Hug on the.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Rooftop, the three of them.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Uh yeah, yeah, I mean most of his screen time
is as Tron in the grid, and I get I
like that it shares screen time with the different characters,
whereas the sequels, They're like, yep, Jeff Bridges was always
the main guy, and it's like, no, he kind of
wasn't in the original movie.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Hey, Tony, keep filling in time. I forgot to plug
my computer in and it's almost dead, so that could
be awkward. Awesome, Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Oh no, Adam's been derest end of linet. That's what
Master Control program says to Dillinger. He goes end of line.
By the way, everyone, sorry, I I'm a little off
my game because of the previously mentioned channel deletion. The
name of the game is Superchats. Please send me Superchats

(20:53):
and we will read them within reason, within reason and
actually on YouTube right now. I set up a goal
and I believe. Let me check and see what the
goal was.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
The goal is if we hit uh ten ten dollars
ten yellow Superchats, which I think is ten dollars, I
will dance in the Tron suit for you guys. Okay,
he's back, he's back, he's re rented. Sorry, I forgot
to plug Superchats. That actually gave me a moment to

(21:25):
plug super.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So Yes, Tron is the yea. Tron is the hero
of the story.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
He's the one who could stop mask control program, but
he needs help from Flynn, and Flynn is a user
in the grid, which I guess gives you magic powers
because he's like, I'm a user. I could just make
this ship with my brain maybe, And it's like, oh
u uh, they don't really explain how that works. Everyone's
really impressed by it. But yeah, it's a cool product

(21:52):
of its time. Yeah, and it probably shouldn't become a franchise,
but it did become a cult hit.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
People ended up Tron again.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
They made those video games about a bunch of video games,
not just the arcade games. Discs of Tron is pretty cool.
If you ever got to play that in an arcade.
I go to vintage arcades, go in there, it lights up.
It's cool as hell. So it became a household name
at some point everyone's like, oh, remember when Disney made
that cool movie? And years later Adam it came back

(22:23):
directed by I forgot to write his name down, but
he ended up directing Top Gun, Maverick and f One
and written by these two guys who wrote Lost Tron Legacy.
Oh big one for this movie. Music by Daft Punk. Yes, yeah,

(22:43):
so they announced this, and I remember this was like
a big deal at the time. People were excited for it,
and then it came out and I forgot to see it.
But then I saw it. I rented the DVD from Netflix. Adam,
that's a very old sentence.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now, wow, yeah, you got to deliver it in the mailbox? Nice?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yes, yes, And I ended up watching Tron Legacy real quick.
I gotta pull up my plot description because I forgot
to have it pulled up. I restarted my goddamn computer
and I lost everything.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
What second? One second? One second? There? Why you do that?
I'll just wax poetically about the fact that it's called
Tron Legacy and think, is this where Legacy sequel came from?
Or is this a happy coincidence? Because as I watched
Tron Legacy, I'm like, holy shit, this really is this
is what all the movies do. Like ten years later,
they all started doing this where you have it's sun

(23:37):
to come in and yeah, go off.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, It's one of those things where it definitely existed before,
but this I think kicked off the modern trend of
it because you could say.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
But it but it didn't. Because this came out in
two thousand and what fifteen, No, this came out twenty ten. Oh,
twenty ten. Yeah, I don't think we got the the
leg see. Thing really seemed to kick off with Halloween.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Uh no, no, no Star Wars, No Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, you're right, but this is Force Awakens and Dassic World,
but those came way after Tron, like I know.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
But like so there's all these types of movies have
always existed, but then there's always one that does well enough,
and then other people want to ride the trend and
it usually takes a few years for that to happen,
and I think Tron Legacy is one of them. Funny
you mentioned the name Tron Legacy. Let's look at the
title sequence cool legacy anywhere on that title, Adam.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The legacy is the friends we made along the way. Okay,
So your theory is that this was just supposed to
be a reboot or what. No, it's definitely a legacy sequel. Anyway.
Is the prece a.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
High tech motion picture unlike anything you've ever seen, well
except for that other time where you saw it. Immerse
yourself in the digital world of Trine as celebrated actor
Jeff Bridges, stars and a revolutionary visual effects adventure beyond imagination.
Oh my god, I can't wait. The bitch about that?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
When Flynn.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
When Flynn, the world's greatest video game career creator, sends
out a secret signal from an amazing digital realm, His
son discovers the clue and embarks on a personal journey
to save his long lost father. With the help of
a fearless female warrior Cora played by the Smoke of

(25:43):
Hot Olivia Wilde, father and son venture through an incredible
cyber universe and wage the ultimate battle of good versus evil.
Speaking of evil, the evil in this movie is a
minor character from the first one, and here was his introduction. Yep,

(26:04):
that's the bad guy in this movie, Tron Legacy.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So I uh, Tron Legacy.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I finally watched it on my DVD from Netflix, and
I sawone who really liked Tron and had wanted a
new Tron. I wanted to see what that world looked
like in a bigger like, with better effects and everything.
And the little teaser they put out for this, because
they did a proof of concept for this, I don't
know if you ever saw it, where it's like two
light cycles fighting each other and the one kills the

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other guy and they're like, I thought it was a game.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Was really cool.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It got me pumped and everything. And then I watched
the movie and I went, that was fucking lame. That's
not what I wanted. What did you think, Adam?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Uh? Again, I watched all three of these movies like
two weeks ago or whatever. I freaking dug this movie, Tony.
I knew. I knew we were gonna was going from
some janky as Satari game to a PS ten game.
This thing was. This movie was fucking awesome. I had
no expectations. I remember watching it once long ago because

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I'm like eighty five now and thinking, yeah, that was fine.
Somehow it got better with age, unlike the original. It's
it's it's gotten. It's got like a fine wine. I
just enjoyed the taste. And also Olivia Wild dear God.
Anytime the movie's at a lull, she's there to pick
me back up again.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I wasn't really watching a lot of stuff with her
at the time, but I think the only other thing
I saw her in at that time was Cowboys Versus Boys.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Versus Aliens, mainly because of that shot in the trailer
where she's naked. Yeah, I know where your head's at, Tony.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
She was a big on House. I think I think
she was a character in the House.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's right, she was on House. Yeah yeah, I think
that this visually did what the first movie probably wanted
to do. But you know, it's just so old. This
is just such a beautiful looking movie. The music is
top notch. Here. I I love how they modernize it,
yet they still have a little respect for the retro

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look to it. I don't know, I don't have any problems.
I love the liquid eyes look of the laser grid,
and you know, the light cycles and how things blow
up into like vauxels now, but they also have but
the bikes also have like a liquid in them. It's
it's cool, it's well thought out.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah yeah, I disagree with almost everything you just said. Okay,
I actually really don't like the style of this film.
But let's talk about let's talk about Adam the horrifying
buzz light. You're looking cgi d aging face in the room.
This was, uh me, not the first example. I think
X Men last, and and to a lesser degree, X

(28:44):
Men origins Wolverine tried this first. I think a few
movies tried this first. They were gonna dage Jeff Bridges
to be clue, and it wasn't ready yet, and it
looked terrible. It's gotten a little bit better here and there,
depending on the movie, and it looks terrible. And the
one defense I always hear from people is like, it
didn't bother me because he's a program inside a computer.

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And I have a two pushbacks on that, Adam One,
no one else in the computer looks like a cgi
buzz light Year with hair. And two, they show him
in the real world.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
We're always on the same team. I can justify the
video game stuff for the exact same way. Yeah, he's
in the game. He's trying to mirror the original creator,
so he looks fake whatever. That's fine, But to your point,
they do show him in the real world, d Age,
and that's that's a terrible moment in the movie. Keep
him in the keep him in the shadows. You know

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it looks. Yeah, they do an okay.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Job at first, and then they get a little too
overconfident with.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
They do it. Why does Disney do it every time?
It's the same with rog Rogue one and Yeah, I'm
a Tarkin and Princess Leiah at the end, it's like,
just show her fucking buns from the back, whipper. They
always get too over.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They cannot help They cannot help themselves, Tony, they cannot
help themself. So here are some of my issues. Okay, please.
So so Adam was dating what's her face? And then
I guess he got cocked by Sam and I'm like, oh,
that's kind of mean.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And then Sam left, so Adam got cooked and.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Now he has to raise the guy who cocked him son,
what the fuck him? Like that really sucks for Adom.
He's not even the CEO of the company, he's just
a board member. And I was like, well things are Adam.
You're Adam Allen.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I was like, yeah, I don't remember getting cocked, but
maybe but I'm like, oh, guy, does a guy that's
cocked know he's cocked? So maybe it depends. I didn't see.
I didn't give a shit about Alan in the first movie,
because again, it was so hard to even know he
was a character in the film. He was mostly trod
so anything they did with him, I was like, eh, I, oh, yeah,
that's the guy from the first film.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Cool, well listen listen at him. I was like, Okay,
Alan in the real world. All in the real world
not doing too well. But I'm sure the titular character
Tron's doing good. Nope, he gets attacked and then killed
and then turned into a bad guy. So for the
whole movie he's a bad guy and it's supposed to
be a revelation. But also it's like super obvious that

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Rizzler is Tron. It's like, yeah, because he's wearing the
same outfit. We saw it on the toy and he's
got the same exact outfit. Also, he's like cool and
can fight good.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm sorry this is a problem you have. Yeah, he's
a he's a villain for a while, but then he'd
be you know, he gets good again. It's it's I'm
glad you mentioned that, Adam.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
You know, it really annoyed me that Tron didn't get
to do cool heroic Tron stuff until the very end,
and then at the end he becomes Tron, Like he
did cool stuff the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Not he did, but he did cool stuff the whole.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Movie, Adam, Adam, uh Tron and Legacy was my uh
luke Skywalker and last yed Eye.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I was like, no, what did you do? To my Tron.
What the fuck did Tron do in the first Tron movie?
That was so really good? It was so cool.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
To you watching it recently, Like whoa, remember when he
went whoa.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Like this?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Remember when he went to the old guy program to
communicate without in the real world he got the disc
and he.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Went and Tony sees him evil in this one, doing
like fucking flips all over and the taking guys out
with Austin who's.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Like Noron And then at the end, at the end
they like bring him back, and He'm like, Wow, he's
tried again. Can't wait to see what he does in
the third movie. Yeah, anyway, I love the look.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Do you like how they do you like how they
have him like fall down into the water though, and
you're like, oh, we'll see in the next film. However
they bring him back and then they're just like, yeah,
we're not bringing him back and died on the way
to his home planet. Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
The issue I have with the visuals as someone who
looked at this and went, that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I want to see what that looks like with better effects.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And then and then Adam, I finally get it, and
what do we get what do we get some smoke
and rocks.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I'm like, what the fuck is this? That doesn't look
anything like the grade? And like, I love how you
took I love how you took the farthest wide shot
you could possibly find. Out of all the beautiful shots
in tront Legacy, you take the most fucking far away
line shot possible. I remember the.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Background there's like an equal sign on the back is
like some and I was like painting shit and I
was like, what would that look if it was like
more three D and you can move the camera around,
that'd be cool. And then they went, now it's just
gonna be some glass with blue lines on.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Look. The light cycle scene was so kick ass in Legacy.
They're freaking jumping over, They're doing like, you know, loops around.
It's awesome. And Adam Tony's like, where is my shitty
little crack in the wall effect? Again? I need that
back well, Adam, Adam uh freaking again.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
As someone who loved the artist who worked on the
previous film, I love that there was a guy who
had a dick for a head.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah. I hope yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I was like, I hope we get a guy for
a dick for a head, but nope, instead we just
got a dickhead.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Are you disrespecting Bowie right here?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Michael Sheen Michael Sheen's impersonation about you.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
So actually he's.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
One of the things I don't mind because that's what
the movie looks weird, and I'm like, no, I want that,
I want that. No, I just it's a little too
sleek for me and a little too not colorful.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
A little too good on the graphics, and everything is
like it is fine. It's the overall the equivalent of
some guys that used to know that would go, I'm
gonna work out, but I don't want to get too big.
I'm worried about Adam.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's me for the last three years, and that's why
I work out every day.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
But I fuck up my diet because I don't want
to be too big at them. I don't want to
get too bulky.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
You know, I'm already I'm already intimidating you with my
cool tron suit.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Imagine if I had giant muscles. You want to know
what to do? Honestly, I would have preferred as than
Jared Leto. So anytime you want to jump.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
In there, I will say upon rewatching the film now
that I know I was going to be disappointed, I
didn't hate it as.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Much I used to.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Okay, the story's fine. I don't like it as much
as the first one. It really is the visual style
that bothers me. I'm like, oh, I wanted to see
updated Tron, not here's a completely different looking world. However,
they do kind of imply that the Grid wasn't finished yet,
and then when Clue took over, he was micromanagers, so
maybe it's his fault.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
It doesn't look as cool as it should. Well, you
get to see the Grid back and all it's janky
ass shit glory in the third movies, So I don't
know what you're explaining about. Let's not skip ahead to
like my favorite part of the next complete by the way,
but we'll get there. We'll get there.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Uh there's this new element where when he was building
the grid in his new computer underneath the basement, Uh,
sentient programs came into being, like they just.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Materialized, baby.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, so they were like programs that had no program
and Flynn wanted to bring them into the real world.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
To be Are they the ice are the ISOs?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
They're called the ISOs and what you call it. Clue,
who Flynn created to work in the grid when he
wasn't there, didn't like them. So there's a bit of
like a religious thing, like the story of Satan rebelling
against God. Some versions say that he did it because
he was jealous of mankind. There's a little bit of
that in there. There's a whole thing of like creator
and whatnot. So they killed all the ISOs except for

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Cora because she was the hottest.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Of course, you gotta keep her hottest.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
But Flynn went into hiding because only his disc will
bring you into the real world. So Clue's plan is
to get the disc and go in the real world
and Flynn.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I do like that. Flynn's talking to his son.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
He's just like, yeah, he's a perfectionist and there's nothing
more imperfect than our planet. So he'll go nuts and
just kill everyone. Uh, there's a I don't mind Sam
too much. I think that is the problem. I was
looking up like reviews from back then, and people weren't
too hot on the characters. The guy who plays Sam
is fine. I guess he's not really good though.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I put him on the same level as what's his
nuts from the Avatar movies. What's that guy's name, Oh,
Sam Worthington. Yeah, he's kind of like Sam Worthington. They're
just like a face and a body and they talk
and that's that's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I think right now he's on a Tulsa King okay,
the show, and he did he did knock up Emma Roberts,
but then they divorce and he had a couple.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
D UIs maybe that has.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Something with the new movie anyway, the problem with the bag, Yeah,
but please Probably the bad guy's plan, right, Okay, Yeah,
he's using the disc to go in the real world,
and Clue is like, all right, let's put the disc
on my spaceship and let's fly into the real world.
Does he not know that he's gonna come out of

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a laser in a tiny basement and it's just going to
destroy the computer he's currently living in.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I don't know if he thought that far ahead. I
think it was more or less I gotta get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I feel like Flynn should have been like, Hey, if
you're gonna do this plan, go one at a time.
You're gonna show up in a basement and destroy the
computer you're living I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
If they had a lot of time to even have
a conversation. He's fighting Clue, there's a whole thing going on.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So that's another problem with me of like, I'm just like, yeah,
let's just destroy that building and then they'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Like this plant isn't gonna work at all. Just to clarify,
you had no issues following the plot of the first Tron,
but this one, you're like, I got a lot of
beef with us. The first movie makes perfect sense. This
one MCP was.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Going to break into government buildings and probably take over
their new because I don't think they were hooked up
to a computer at that point.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
But still, hey, did you call back to the slow
moving door when the vault opens up? I did like that.
I did like that upon rewatch it.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Upon rewatching it, I actually thought it was Okay. It's
not what I really wanted, mostly visually, but it works
for the most part. I used to really really not
like this movie, but I guess I'm just less jaded
in my older years.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Uh, Tron ride at Disney. No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
But that's of this also becoming a cult film because
it did. Ever when it came out It wasn't like
a super big hit, but it did have a pretty
like loyal fan base, and again it grew over time.
They did an animated series that was supposed to be
both movies. I didn't watch it. Did you ever watch any.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Of that animation? That's for children?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I don't watch obviously, obviously obviously.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Now let's get back to talk about this Disney movie.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
But that was somewhat animated, Yes, But then they did
the light cycle race, and now it's like an established
thing there, so it became like a big thing after
the fact. But one thing everyone loved at the time
was the Daft Punk soundtrack, even me, even me a
negative Nancy who went Tron legacy sucked, I would go,

(40:28):
but the daft Punk music was pretty damn good and
I listened to it all the time. Yeah, my favorite thing,
Adam was the d res music video by Daft Punk,
because it looks like classic Tron. Oh, dude, you gotta
watch it. Yeah, they got him a light cycle, someone's
riding a robot horse and this is what I wanted.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I wanted to see Tron.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
But like with better three D and graphics, and it
looked cool as hell.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I think it's okay. Now, I think it's okay. Now,
I just I wish it was better, wish.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's easily easily the best of the Tron movies, but
every one of them, I say, Adam, how could you
say that? We haven't talked about aries yet?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
That's right, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, sorry, the best of
the bunch chumping the gun here. But yeah, like I said,
people were really into it, and they wanted to make
a sequel to this one, okay, and it took a
really long time. They definitely set up they definitely set
up stuff in this to be uh to come back

(41:32):
later on in another film, like it ends with Cora's
in the real world, Flynn dies assimilating with Clue and
that great is presumably destroyed. So now there's an iso
in the real world and like, oh cool Sam, Sam
the legacy. He's supposed to take over the company, but
he doesn't want to do it. And at the end,
after all he's learned, he's like, you know what, I

(41:52):
will get my father's company and I'll make things right.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
You could go, yeah, see you in the sequel. So
many ways you can go.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
They even sprinkled in the bad guy from the first
one son played by Killia Murphy Dillinger Junior. So yeah,
if you did like the movie, you'd be like, I
gotta see Tron three. When does Tron three come out?
The answer is not for a while, not for as.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
The answer is never, because we didn't get three, we
got tron as, which has actually nothing to do with
the second movie.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Oh, it reluctantly has to follow the second movie. But yes,
that brings us to tron Aries. Let's go tron Aries.
For some reason, Premiere made all the images warped when
I put him into the slide show. So just ignore

(42:48):
that Dillinger's grandson is now ahead of his company. Uh,
and he's the and his mother is Jillian Anderson, who
is Dillinger's daughter.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
You might be saying.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
The answer is he got too popular and he can't be.
In the movie, they remembered at Dillager's company, they remembered, Hey,
we have like matter lasers. Why haven't we used those
for forty years? And they've been using these lasers to
bring things out of their grid into the real world. Unfortunately,
it only works for thirty minutes. So that means if

(43:23):
Klue did make it out. He would have just been
sucked back in thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Was it even thirty? I thought it was like twenty
nine minutes.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, it was like it couldn't even make it a
nice even thirty.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
It was a twenty nine minute window.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
But he makes a program called Ari's named after god
of war, and he is he's the master control program
of this grid. And I do actually like the inverse
where in the original was Dillinger talking to master control
program like on the computer. Now we get to see
the program talking to Dillinger, and Dillinger is the big

(43:55):
red face.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Like that was a cool little inverse. I like that.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
We get sent to kidnap the head of InCom and
you're probably wondering, Tony, why is there an Asian lady
on the screen you're clearly talking about They're talking about Sam, right, No, Sam,
as we learn in the opening credits, left for personal reasons.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
With the ISO chick, they just fled. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
They just show kind of images like Mystery Woman and Sam.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, they do the really lazy montage of different like
news sprinklings and three D kind of flying around. Oh,
the second movie did that. The second movie did the
montage with the screens and everything they did. Okay, they
did it lazy there too. Well, they did to bring
you up to speed because it had been like twenty

(44:47):
fucking five years before the last movie. This one did
it to uh destroy everything the last movie, not to
bring up to speed. It's like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
that's gone. They're all gone. And now we have this
woman that's taken over and she's great. She has a
dead sister, so sympathy of course. Of course.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Well, an Asian lady with a dead sister and a
sci fi movie. I feel like I'm watching Last Jedi
all over again. Uh yeah. So she's the head of
the company. She figures out the Permanence Code to make
matter from the grid stay permanent in the real world.
So Diliger needs her because he also he already promised investors.

(45:29):
He's like, don't worry, these soldiers they're gonna be great.
You guys have to get out of here in five minutes.
They're gonna be great. They're gonna work. Please leave the room,
don't look at them. Dissolve And I like, Julian Anderson
be like, hey, you're kind of fucked.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
She's like, you know your grandfather fucked around and he
found out could you not fuck around?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Please? I wish she was in it more and had
more to do, because yeah, I love her, and she's
just completely useless in this movie.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Uh so, yes, Ari's is becoming sentient for whatever reason?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Is he an ISO?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I don't know, they forgot ISO's and uh he kidnaps her,
brings her into the Dillinger grid, and then decides to
work with her because he wants the permanence code. He
wants to be in the real world and experience things. Meanwhile,
another program, Athena, gets told by Dillinger to stop them
no matter what. He forgets that these programs take things

(46:19):
very literally, so she starts three D printing all the
aircrafts in the Tron world and brings them into the
real world.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Everyone. But it's also a good thing that Aries also
forgot that he's like the Master Control program and is
super awesome at everything, And they show him take out
like a whole room of guards without hesitating, and now
he suddenly can't even go up against one person without struggling. Yeah,
it makes sense, It makes sense. It makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
During all of this, while he while Aris is in
the real world. Uh, they have to temporarily hide him
in a different computer so he doesn't go back to
the grid, and we get a cool, reconstructed eighties trime
the way I wanted it to fucking look the only
thing I've wanted since the original, and it's awesome. He
even has that gray scale look and Jeff Bridges is

(47:14):
now a ghost robot and I'm like, wait, this is
what I wanted it to look like. Can we get
this movie please?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Okay, we have to get the time Tony. We have
to time out because I feel like there was either
heavy rewrits in this section of the movie or there
was some major editing going on. Did you not think
and how they set this whole thing up? There's the
laser that shoot from NCOM right that transports Aries into
the Old Grid. Well, right before that happens, what's her

(47:43):
nuts shows up? What was the villain's name, Aphrodite or
some crap Athena. Athena shows up outside the window peek
a boo, and Aries does a slow motion run to
stop her, and he dives at her, giving the impression
they were both gonna get digitized into the Old Grid
and have to go through the games against each other,
but instead he does nothing. He didn't sacrifice anything, and

(48:06):
he ends up going away anyways, leaving the rest of
them fuck to have to fight her off. It was
such a weird scene. It made no sense. And also
it would have been awesome to see I think back
in the old light cycles fighting and you know, using
the rings. But whatever, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
They they were like, we got Jeff Bridges, he answered us,
we got Cheff Bridges.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
We can get a caveo with Jeff Bridges. I think
that I think the movie was too fucking long already,
and they're like, we gotta cut this out because and
maybe reshoot this stuff because this is already like over
two hours and it is just too much.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I will say with this one, I appreciate what it
was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Even look even the grid, when we appreciate what it
was trying to do. Sorry I was, I appreciate what
it was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
But even like this image here of the Grid, I'm like, Okay,
they're kind of like.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Tied to the Tron legacy.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Look, they kind of have to because now they have
the ride and everything, and that was like the popular one.
But they are trying to make it feel more lived in,
Like I like that there's a sun now, it's a
little bit more colorful. I think the suits are a
little bit better, they're better lit. The cycles and everything
look cooler. I actually didn't mind seeing like the cycles
and everything in the real world. That was kind of

(49:28):
fun to see, like all these machines and everything in
the real world. And I like that it did trying
to tie back to some elements of the first one
for people like me, although I will agree with you
that it probably didn't land. It didn't stick the landing.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Really.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
One of the problems with this movie is all the
minor characters who suck.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I hate it, like all pretty much all the that
comic relief guy was just awful who like usually funny. Yeah, yeah,
he was terrible.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh oh, and then they had the comedian who got
caught like lying about stuff, Hassan Minaj I think his
name is. He like told a story and a stand
up that he presented as true and then everyone found
out it was a lie. Anyway, all the sporting characters
are pretty terrible. I don't even like Ceo Lady, to
be honest, I know we all have Jarrett Letto fatigue,

(50:23):
not me. I love Jarrett Letto. I made sure you
could get a Jarrett Letto poster here.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Just hack the movies. We celebrate Jared Leto's entire catalog.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
You know, there used to be someone on this channel
who hated Jarrett Letto, but he's not allowed on YouTube anymore.
I'm just gonna keep this up for the remainder. What
do you think out of I think that's beautiful. It's
better than the alternative, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Hold on, are you all getting lost? Are you all
getting lost? In his eyes? Hungry? Ah? Yeah, it's beautiful. No.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I actually didn't mind him in this, but I do
think there is some like Jared Leto fatigue. Uh what
has he been in lately?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You know, a movie's bad or I shouldn't say bad.
I didn't think aries was terrible. I just thought it
was incredibly lame. But you know a movie's rough when
Jared Leto is the shining beacon in the film. And
I agree he was the best part of tron Aris. Uh. Yeah,
the CEO later was just such a stick in the
mud dry character and the whole like forced sympathy with

(51:25):
her dead sister that we never really sees. Yeah, very
Jurassic World rebirth style. Yeah, but actually this has a
lot of common rebirth. Not only do they do that thing,
they also do the intro where they discredit the previous movie.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, or they put it like on hold for later,
like hey, all that stuff. Uh yeah, we'll get back
to it. Yeah, it's on it's on grid. It's on
its grid for lazy. No, one's just like, what about
the ISOs? Were new ISOs created? Was that gonna be
a game changing thing? It's like, ah, Sam left for
personal reasons, Like what personal reasons? Is that like the
most important reason?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
And that's the And that's right before the end credit, right,
he gets like a letter something. No, no, that's in
the beginning of the movie. They mentioned all that.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Then at the end, when Aris ends up staying on Earth,
he gets the permanence code from Jeff Bridges again in
that awesome eighty sequence, he gets the permanence code and
he's talking about how he's traveling the world. He's like
writing her a letter, but he it's assumed he's gonna
look up Korra because that's the only other program in
the real world.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
So yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
It is like Rebirth, where it's technically a sequel, but
it wants to be its own thing and wants to
tie back to the original more. Again, I think it
was a nice for me, Like all the grid stuff
was a nice blend of the original and legacy. Like
you like the liquity look of the cycles and stuff legacy.
I like the more hard light lines in this one

(52:49):
because they look like the original but with better effects.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah. I think a lot of people expected me to
hate this.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
One, and I don't know does anyone actually really hate
I feel like people just aren't seeing it.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But do you know anyone who really hated the movie?
I don't know anybody who suck, actually know. I know
a couple of buddies who really enjoyed it. One guy
who saw the original way back when it hit theaters.
He's much older than both of us. I don't even
know how he's alive, to be honest with you, and
he he loved the new movie because of the nostalgia factor. Yeah.

(53:20):
I'm just kind of overall the nostalgia shit to begin with,
because I'm you know, I'm a bitter, jaded person. But yeah,
I think on paper, it was kind of a fun
idea to bring the grid into the real world, but
I just really didn't think it was that cool. Watching
the light cycles go down the highways and doing that
chase scene. It just got to be a lot. And

(53:41):
I feel like most people prefer it to be in
the game world because we see the lame real world
all the time. Get me back in there. I want
to see more of that. Yeah, I think I would have.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I would have liked to have seen a couple scenes
in the real world, but you're right, the computer world
is like way cooler. They could have just went to
newer grades that look cooler. Oh it was weird. Fucking
what's his face is in this movie?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh god, damn it. Uh. They kept making a big
deal of it. Cameron. What's his name?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Cameron, Cameron Monahan, Cameron Diaz, No, Cameron Monaghan from He
was like the Joker on Gotham, he was in Shameless,
He's in those Star Wars, Jedi Survivor games. Oh, okay,
he's in a ton of stuff. He's like a big actor.
And then he's in this movie as just one of
the programs that dies when they when they like U

(54:33):
intercept income. Uh. And then he gets blown up, Like, like, wait,
that was kind of like a big actor. Why did
you put him in a throwaway role? They did so
much advertisements with him. They showed him doing his stunt stuff,
and I'm like, he was apparently in a movie. You
wore a mask and then he showed his face right
before he got blown up.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Was it just me or did they completely hide the
fact that this movie's main character was Eve Kim. I
feel like I sign nothing on her and it was
all focused on Jared Leto. But Eve Kim is basically
the she is the main protagonist of the story.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
No, she's she's in the marketing and stuff, Okay, but
she's like there with Jared Leto.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
But like the trailer I saw, I feel like she
was in maybe two shots of the entire trailer when
he is probably seventy percent of the movie is yeah,
her story, and then you have thirty on Leto and well,
you know, you.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Know whose story it's not Adam Tron's.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, he's not in the movie.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
When they broke into like Income's Grid, I'm like, well,
there's a bunch of security programs. I'm sure one of
them is Tron or maybe they'll all be Tron's. You
can copy and paste them. I assume, like maybe I
thought maybe Tron was the one that was giving aries sentience,
like he has done like an Agent Smith thing where
he's fucking with the grid somehow.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
No, he's just he's just got he died at the
bottom of the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I was just like, where's Trod. I'm like, okay, well
Trot's not coming back. Where's Bruce box Lighter? Is Alan
does he find?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
He still didn't get the company they gave it to
Asian lady.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
We never heard of.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
That guy. Got cock blocks so bad that the actor
didn't even get asked to be in it.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I think earlier versions of the script he was gonna
be in it, like or just when they were trying
to make it initially. Again, this took a long time.
They had a different script, they had a different director
at one point.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Well, the idea was that I was just gonna say
Evan Peters was fine too. That was the only other
character that we said, all the other supporting characters sucked.
Evan Peters I like him in pretty much everything he's
been so he was he was fine, he was amazing,
but he was good.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I think I think the best actor in the movie
was the painting of the late dead David Warner. I
thought he was the best because they painted him looking
very upset, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Like, he would make that face. They nailed it. They
nailed it, George upset. But I again, I like those
little salgic things.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I like that the communication was a big giant red face, like,
all right, that's that's Tron.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Speaking of the original Tron.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
If you're a fan of South Park, you've probably seen
every moment of Tron because they parodied it so much.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
I love so there are some people who don't know that.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Moses in South Park is a master of control program
giant face.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I wrote more Macarodiro.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Remember the episode where Stan got sent into Facebook and
they do the same thing where yes digitized, Uh but yeah,
I will say the nine inch nails. I'm not even
really like a nine inch nails guy, but I was
super into the soundtrack for this one.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
How did you compare to the other two? It was
kind of in and out for me. I liked some
of the some of the jams really worked at other point.
At other points it didn't hit as hard as I thought.
You know, Reznor was going to bring it, so yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I like Daft Punk a lot more
for the Tron, you know, it seems a bit more
with what what they're going with it does does. But
Nine Inch Nails is like huge now They're like, like,

(58:01):
I feel like huge for a long time.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I mean they have, but I feel like this summer
they had like a huge tour and like they came
to Philadelphia and Adam. I think like ten people on
the show were all at the same concert. Like my
Instagram was just everyone at Nine Inch Nails and like,
did I miss the fucking memo?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I'm sorry. Trent Resner is the lead of nine in Nails, right, yes?
Why why is it that he always gets just Trent
Resnor when he's with David Fincher and a lot of
every and basically every other movie, but for Tron specifically,
it's nine Inch Nails. Is there is there a reason
for this to I guess not use his team for

(58:37):
the other movie scores.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah, I guess it's just him doing the music for
the other I don't know. My favorite thing with Trent
Resner were you a fan of the show Whitest Kids,
You know, the comedy group yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was fun.
Do you remember their their Trent Resdor skit? No, Oh,
you gotta look it up. After this, it's like a
girl with her jock boyfriend's like, oh, my ex boyfriend
lives around here. His name's Trent Resdor. I broke up

(58:59):
with it. Trent wrestler got broken up with this blonde
girl and that's why he's emo. They showed before and after,
like him with the football. He's like, this is in
after I broke up with him, and it's like him
all gone. That's awesome. She breaks her new boyfriend. He's like,
she's like, oh, I just want to let you know
I'm in love with you.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I was like, you are.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
It's like, no, I'm just kidding. This is my new boyfriend.
He's just crying.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
That's awesome. That's a market. It is fucking hilased that
that's the arc that brought him into music. That's great.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
But yeah, I I will say a lot of you
are probably gonna wait till it hits streaming. I didn't
see Tron Legacy in three D when it came out,
did you No?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I didn't see Tron Legacy in theaters. Sadly, Okay, kind of.
I just didn't really have much interest in it. Now
I see, I did see, and I.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I did enjoy seeing it in three D with the
lights and everything, And I'm like, maybe maybe I never
watched Tron Legacy in three D. Maybe that would have
enhanced it for me a little bit. Because my friend
just saw it in the theaters loved it, and I dated.
I'm like, I feel like that should have been a
theater experience because Tron Airy's not a great movie. But
I was in the moment when all the lines are everywhere.
I'm like, this looks cool as fuck. I'm all about this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
It is kind of odd that Dizzy didn't just re
release Oh I suppose because it has nothing to do
with I was gonna say, why did they re release
it in theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
A year before or six months? Never mind, you're right,
You're right, though it feels weird. I mean, one, Tron
just shouldn't have sequels, like it's stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
But when he's not in the sequel Tron, if he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
In it, let's say at least the second one, it's like, Okay,
it's the character's son and they're this and they're trying
to rebuild all this and the third one is like, yeah,
that's nice. Here's a different guy and the bad guy's
grandson and uh, they have their story right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's like, but what happened to all the other characters?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Like you'll see a ghost Jeff Bridges relax And I'm like,
is he the real Flynn?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Is he like a flint simulation? I was a little
confused by that. Is there another movie franchise where the
titular character isn't in the movie. I'm trying to think, like,
there's no Batman movie where Batman's not present, right, and
it's like a Robin film. I don't recall that. No,
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
I guess you could say all of g I Joe,
because the original Joe is only in like a few
of them from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
But that's all I can think of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Let us know, let us go leave a fifty dollars
super Do we meet our do we meet our goal?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
We did not meet the goal? At sad that we
did not meet the goal. Real upset about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You know what, I think we have enough money to
equal up to a hundred. It's maybe I'll do the
dance anyway. But it would have been nice to hit
the goal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So yeah, I feel like we're both.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Lukewarm on Tron aries, and we were split on the
other two. So I think it's pretty obvious, Adam, what
is the best Tron movie?

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
The one that hasn't come out yet. We're gonna see
it in twenty thirty eight, Tron Futures or Tron Universe
or whatever they call it. Tron Regnarock movie, you know what,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
It's gonna be about programs in the real world wanting
to be accepted as human beings. And one of them
runs for office and it's called Electron. Oh, I like that,
get it elect But it's electing Tron.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Of course want to be in it because we want
the good title to be confusing. But it's a fun punt.
Or what if the Earth has become so unattainable for
people they need to move into the grid to survive. Yeah,
because it's up in the cloud or some ship and
maybe the this the servers are on Mars, so it's fine,
the Earth is done, We're gonna We're gonna laser people

(01:02:47):
to the grid on Mars. That's the that's the next one,
And who can we get that's as likable as Jared
Leto to be the leader. Maybe Aquafina the character we
get in that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Do you think there was a conversation at point where
someone went, can we get Aquafina for this part? And
then they went no, look at the box office for
Shangchi and they went, oh god, yeah, no, no, sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Wait? Did did shang Chi do well? I don't think
it did well. I found that one did well. Look
it up. I think you're throwing out some shade for
no reason. Chang Chi box office. I feel like that
made money. It pulled in four hundred and thirty two
worldwide off of a two hundred and twenty four Oh
wait wait, I'm sorry, yeah, four hundred thirty two million dollars.

(01:03:29):
What was the budget Shang she budget? I'm guessing it
was like three hundred million though, oh it was only
one hundred only one hundred and fifty million, one hundred
fifty million dollar budget, and it pulled in four hundred
and thirty two million, So it did make money. You know,
you double that. I don't think it made as much
as the money.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
It made money. It should have blown up in China.
Apparently the Chinese audience were like, we don't like this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Some reports suggest the total clock costs, including a marketing budget,
was around three hundred million. Yeah, so it made. It
made four thirty two. I had a huge success, but
it didn't better than like Fantastic four and e Turnles
and all this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
That look look, look, point is after that movie, they said, Aquafina,
we'll have you voice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
A bird in The Little Mermaid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
We're not putting you on screen anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
She also voiced a different bird in Yeah she voice.
She's voiced several birds. Now she voices a different bird
in Oh God, what was that illumination? Oh? Migration or
migration is it? Yeah? I think it's called my Yeah,
she was that annoying pigeon in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I only know that movie exists because, like you, I
have to go to the theater a lot, and I
saw the preview like fifteen times.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Oh I don't know anything. I went to the theater
and watched it by myself in a group full of
a lot of children, and I'm the ditty in the
corner like, hey, kids, you like the movie. That's what
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I love that I have like nieces now that can
go to the theater. So like when I saw Lelo
stitch to, I'm like, okay, I'm here with my family.
Where is Minecraft? I was there by myself, and I'm like,
I look like a problem, Jocky, You're the only guy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
In the theater.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
No, the problem is I knew that was coming, So
I filmed myself like reacting to everyone's screaming. I'm like, oh,
this looks bad too, uh, because you're wondering. I did
see Tron Legacy by myself. I think there was four
people in the Impax theater.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
By myself as well. It was decently full for me,
and I went in a pretty random time, feel like
you want to at four o'clock on a Thursday. So
I was like, shit, I went at like, there's some
Tron fans here. I went at like one on a Wednesday.
Oh yeah, that's gonna be a little scanter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah yeah, Adam. I feel like this came out, like
what how when did this come out? Tron as two
weeks ago? I can't believe they had so many Jarrett
Leto posters for free. Still, oh, stats wild, I'm going
to get one for you. I can mail you like, yeah,
if you can mailbox it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
That'd be great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I'll go I'll go there tomorrow. I'll pick up like that.
Should I cut his face.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Out and wear it like like a string, and that
should this? Should this be my Halloween come then that would,
unfortunately be the only way I could achieve Climax going forward.
The send me like four of them because I got,
you know, two kids and a wife. They're gonna want posters.
The other side is a film fri that's do people
like movie posters where it's got giant Imax letters on it.

(01:06:29):
I feel like that takes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Away imaxs Imax. Like check out my poster collection. They
just all say I IX. I probably had because I
usually grab them. I throw them in like this big
poster book. I probably have like fifteen Imax posters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
You should collect like the shittiest movie Imax posters. You
like a like a boss Baby Imax And oh I
have a I have a real movie poster. I have
the I have a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Jurassic World Falling Kingdom poster framed because it's one of
the I like that movie, but it's one of the
worst movie posters I've ever seen. And when they had
it at the theater. I'm like, I have to frame this.
It's so bad, it's so terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
My buddy sent me a poster. It's still it's still
wrapped from the move. Okay, I probably can't see it,
but it's Avatar too framed and it says he engraved
it at the bottom. This movie sucks out of those movies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I still haven't seen Avatar too real. Quick, Adam, you
want to see my Jurassic Park.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I'll get. I'll get the Jurassic Park. I gotta show
you now. I gotta show you now. Please second, while
you while you're gone, I will dazzle the audience and
illuminate the mine with invisible juggling, kind of like they
do in Office season six or seven or whatever when
the show got really bad. Otherwise, yeah, I uh, things

(01:07:47):
have been okay. I've been struggling with a cold now
for three days. We can't tell from the voice cracks
and whatnot. And yeah, Tony is he's fine. I don't
know if i've what ever fully achieved direction. Oh what,
I'm sorry. We were we were just chatting it up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Here we go, Adam, this is the Jurassic World Fallen
Kingdom poster that's beautiful wrapped or front and center.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
So oh my god, holy shit, Tony, I'm about to die.
Look at that. Look let's go see this movie where
they all die. Do they have a Bronosaurus silhouette? No?
I don't think they never forget at the bottom, Tony,

(01:08:27):
you know what would be an awesome poster slash T
shirt would be remaking that one. But it's just Owen's hands,
a bunch of Owen hands everywhere. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
This is a real star in my old apartment. This
hung above my fireplace. I was very proud of it,
and I can't wait if I ever move out again,
I'm just gonna have both of these free.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
A full tron aries Jared Letto mural on one of
your walls. It would be amazing, yes, and then and
then more on the other wall. And Joker on the
other wall. This Joker from Suicide Squad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Eh oh yeah, speaking of Jarret let I was like,
everyone used to love him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
What went wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
And I see Suicide Squad played under twenty forty nine,
a movie I didn't see.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
The Outsider.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
The movies I haven't heard of, House of Gucci and
Morbius and Haunted Mansion.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I was like, uh, I liked him in Fight Club
when he had his face beat in a bunch, and
I liked him in Panic Room when he started on fire.
Those are the two movies I remember. And then he
actually puts in a really good performance in Dallas Buyers Club.
He was one movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I'm like, he's really good in that film. That's pretty
much where. Earlier this year we did the slasher movie
Urban Legend. That was like one of his first roles,
like an early role.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
He's any in that huh Yep. He got asked about
an interview and forgot that he was not the one
where they like microwave a cat at one point, a dog, Yes,
a dog? Okay, no, it's funny me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Crystal came back to review the sequel, Urban Legend Final
Cut way better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
It's hilarious. It's a slash moving in film school. It's awesome.
Oh that's cool. Straight is that straight to DVD? Because
I don't think that went to the you know, that
one was the theaters.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
The third one has like nothing to do with anything,
and that one straight to DVD.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
But it's like the Jeepers Creepers franchise. Yeah, the first
two make it to the theaters. Third one, actually, the
third one I think did go for like a day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yes, Joey C drove like an hour or two away
to go see it or something.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
We talked about our review.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
H yeah, yeah, So I don't think it was a
spoiler for me. I think the original Tron is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Yeah, Tron Legacy easily clears these other two sad displays. No.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I honestly, if I'm going to rewatch one, I might
rewatch Aries again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Uh. I just like the look of it more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
And I like the eighty secret honestly, Adam, what I'm
probably gonna do is just watch the eighty sequence on
YouTube when it gets up, and I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Be like, Yep, that's all I need. Don't need to
like whole movie, you know. The other The other like
fine point to put on this is I feel like
Tron has never been really about the plot or the
characters so much as it is just about the technical
advancements and the music, and so the leap from Tron
to Tron Legacy was just astronomical. The leap from Legacy

(01:11:22):
to Aries, I feel like it was a trip and
a fall backwards down a hill. It didn't really push
any tech, and I think in a lot of ways
it looks worse than Legacy. And this movie is ten
years in the future. Maybe because I'm more of a
blue guy. Maybe that's why i like Color Palette. Yeah,
you like the red guy hack the movies. I get it.

(01:11:43):
I'm blue. Look at the backgrounds blue. Yeah, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Sure if you I'm sure if you did get a
leather tight suit with masking tape, it would have been blue.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I'm sure it would have been blue. Yeah, I have that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Instead, you come on the stream looking like a jackass
and not a cool guy like me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
At that's exactly how you look. Listen to the song
Blue by Eiffel what if sixty five? All the time?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
It's I mean, what is should Eiffel sixty five?

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Should have did the music?

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Yes, it's like an update. It's like a dumb step remake.
Where's that that trailer we just watched? Just imagine instead
of nine inch nails, it says Eiffels, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Live in that blue house with blue windows. Blue is
the collar kind of laughter and I wear trock. What's
Eiffel sixty five up to? Hold on, Let's have a
sequel to the song I'm Blue Legacy. That would be
pretty sweet blue. Hey, they're active.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Apparently they had a five year hiatus between two thousand
and five and twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
But they're active no ship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Two thousand, twenty twenty four, they released a new single,
Beast Deal with Italian singer lore Donna Birthday. When are
they touring?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Adam?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Can we go to Europe and go see Eiffel sixty
five together?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I'm there, I'm their Jay fun Tony just let me know?
Do it? Well, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I asked in the poll, Uh, what is your favorite
Tron movie? So if you're in the poll, respond to that.
Let's look at some super chats, Adam, get your super
chats in, everyone, get them in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Please, I lost a channel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
For two hours today. Who knows what the future holds.
Please become a patron and leave a super chat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
That's crazy. So did you not have any warning? Usually
they give you a couple of flags before they pulled
the channel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
When it comes because keep in mind, the second channel
is smaller than this one. Okay, so I think if
it's getting hit for like spam stuff and whatnot, they
don't even bother.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
They wait for you to appeal. It so crazy. Okay,
it's annoying anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Eric berg for two twenty twenty Eric Berd twenty twenty
five became a new YouTube member.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Good. I'm glad you remember.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Check out all our bonus videos now that they're back
after being kicked off YouTube for two hours. Watso MD
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Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I didn't get a Force Awakens a vibe from it. Really,
it's kind of a soft reboot, I think, is what
he's getting at. You have new characters kind of doing
the same thing, taking over the old you know, the
old factories up and running again. I see it to
an extent, I see it, I see you. I disagree.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
What So MD for ten dollars. How about an Adam
versus Tony on a croll review. You guys can make
up some stakes and we could count the likes on
the videos or something. I do love krawl. I think
me and movie Dumpster might do crawl at some point.
We talked about that when we did Legend. Actually, even
though I have the movie on DVD, we went to
an event and Joe for Movie Up Sir got me

(01:15:00):
Kroll on VHS not a real VHS taped off the
TV handwritten Kroll.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great, Tony. By
the way, you said about the super chests, you didn't
hit the goal. That might be true, but I will
remind you that people need to hit the target when
they leave a super chest, or it does not count
towards the ball. God soon then I forgot about that,
So you should just add up the numbers and maybe
they did actually hit the target. I'll do that after that.

(01:15:28):
It's it's really stupid that YouTube makes you hit the
dumb bulls eye in order for it to count. I
forgot all about that. Sorry, it's still new to me.
It's still new to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah, let's see its own do your dance with that?
Insert rs okay through to vides for five dollars. Was
the Flight of the Navigator released around this time as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Let me see man Flight of the Navigator. That brings
me back, holy shit that the kid gets abducted by
a bunch of like Mac and me looking for the alls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Now the Flight of the Navigator is a couple years later.
That's nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Did that go to theaters? Because I feel like that
was a straight did it okay? I was riddily little
when I saw it. I remember renting it on VHS
and thinking it came its weird, this is really weird.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Yeah, you know, knowing I get a big tron vibe
from The Last star Fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I had a lot of like similar imagery and whatnot.
I don't think that one had computer graphics, but it
had like two D that looked like three D. That
is a fun movie. But I feel like if they
try to do a sequel to that, it's just not
gonna work. It's another product of its time sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I saw another movie in the nineties. I don't think
it was the Last Starfighter remake, but it was another
movie about a pilot that gets in a really ugly
cgi looking plane. And I can't remember anything else about it,
but you have a nostalgic hack the movie's fandom here.
They might be able to know based on what I
just said, what the movie is. All I remember is

(01:17:01):
it came out late nineties, I believe, possibly early two thousands.
I think it's late nineties, and it was a dude
he gets in a plane. The plane looks like shit.
The effects are awful and that's all I remember, So
just keep that in your minds. Guys, I don't know,
I know, I know you don't know, but someone might.

(01:17:21):
It was a really, really ass movie. By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
I love Doode Abides. I love that he paid five
dollars to ask us when the movie came out, and
then we went to Google and googled it. I was like,
wait a minute, you could have just googled dude Abides.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
But I'm glad you gave me money. It's not star kid.
This was like a grown up movie. It's like an
adult thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Sure, Auzie, you'regroom for two dollars. On the Disney front,
you should cover the Rocketeer at some point. I want
to cover the Rocketeer Dick Tracy, and I want to
do the Phantom, but I need to get Billy Zane
as a guest. But I would love to do those
three pulpy nineties movies. Whereas the Rocket Here was an
original thing, Dick Tracy and Phantom were based off stuff.

(01:18:06):
Stephen Cerril, Hey, Tony, Hey Adam, nice to see you,
Nice to see you, Stephen Caral Hello, Venom's Nigel forty
four for ten dollars. I've been a fan of the
channel for a long time, and I saw Tron Legacy
in theaters when I was turning sixteen. Now I get
to be disappointed for my thirty first birthday on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Thanks for the left down, Letto. Man, it's just so lame.
It's just lame. That's the problem. And it doesn't continue anything.
I want me to describe the movie again, I really
don't have a description. It's just really bad movie about
a guy who's a pilot who gets in a CG
plane and everything looks like shit. That's the whole movie

(01:18:49):
I remember. And it came out in the late nineties.
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I'm typing in a really bad movie about a guy
who is a pilot and gets in a cig playing
the c G.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I played hold on and it looks like ship. It
looks like ship. Make sure it looks like shit. It
came out in the nineties or whatever. It might have
been based on a video game. I don't know. It
might have been based on a video game. I might
might have been wait, it might be Wing Commander. Is

(01:19:23):
was there a movie called Wing Commander? I know there's
a game.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Oh with uh yes, it is Wing Commander.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Wow. Yes, your guys would get it. I knew you
would get it. Wing Commander.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Uh. Yes, that was based off a video game, a
video game that had live action sequences with like Mark
Hamill and Ship. Yeah, they made it with your Freddy
Frinch Shooter Matthew Lillard. You know why that movie actually
did well initially at the box office.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
At him it did well. That's depressed. It started to
do well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
The only people went to see that movie because before
the Internet, that movie was the only movie at the
time that had the Phantom Menace trailer attached to it
and paying money to sit in the theater and watch
the Phantom Menace trailer and then left when the movie
started because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
They said, Tony, I did that one time for a
different movie, and I believe it was called DreamCatcher, the
Stephen King movie. Oh yeah, dream Catcher. Yeah, because before
DreamCatcher they showed a full section of the Animatrix. They
fold like, they showed a short from it and was
the CGI one with like the fight in the alleyway.

(01:20:40):
And I took my wife to that movie just to
watch the Animatrix, but I didn't tell her that was
gonna happen, and so that shows up out of nowhere
when the previews are done, and she's like, are we
in the right movie? And I'm like, just let this cook.
Let this cook. Dream Catcher was terrible, but then Matrix
was sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I didn't see Fast Act, but apparently in some versions
of Fast X they played the opening of Jurassic World Dominion,
but it was the opening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
That cut cut out of the theatrical version.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Later, so they show the whole opening, which is a
fun opening where it's in the prehistoric times.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Yeah, yeah, though didn't they didn't they release? Yeah, then
they put it online.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
But I'm like, wait, so you're showing people a scene
that's not in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Your movie. Dominion was so fucking weird because that movie
was awful, but they had so much stuff leading up
to it that was actually really cool. Yeah, they had
that dinosaur stuff roaming the earth. They had the battle
of I think it was the Battle Yeah, yeah, and
that was like a five minute short that was awesome.

(01:21:45):
And I think they even had a deleted scene from
the movie or something where the t Rex is roaming
around to drive through and they're watching an old horror movie.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Now that that's that's in the theatrical cut.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
But is it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Yeah, it's more ripped version. Oh yeah, it's definitely reduced
in the theatrical thud. Okay, because the original it leads
back into them or that movie got screwed over by COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
They had to rewrite it on the flat. That's why
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Hate it as much. I still think to watch our
rebirth review. I get that they didn't want to address
too many things for the minion, but I was so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I didn't think they had.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
We all agreed, like me, Gil and Clayton were like
they didn't have to overcorrect as much as they did.
They're like, yeah, but all the dinosaurs died. I'm like, no,
that wasn't the problem with the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
So the clone girl was a problem with the movie.
The locusts were a problem with the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Dinosaurs all over the world was a benefit. Why did
you get rid of the only good things?

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Owen doing the talk to the hand to stop t
Rex's was a problem with the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Hey, I know, we finally put dinosaurs in different environments
and the movie wasn't good. We hear you loud and clear.
We're gonna put him back on an island. No, we
saw that like five times. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
We're getting we're pairing back on the dinosaurs. We're getting
rid of the raptors. We hear you. We know what
you was. It's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
With crazy ass dinosaurs now, if you don't mind, I'm
the one in charge. I got hired by Disney to
do tront Aris. Don't worry not bringing Sam back Elizabeth
Wilde don't want her?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
No, no, no, no, what are they up to?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
What did you say, ghost Jeff Bridges, Yeah, we'll bring
up No, we didn't say that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Everybody in the movie. Don't worry. Tron is out of
the movie. Everybody check's notes loved Olivia Wilde in the
second film, even those that hated the movie. So yeah,
she's gone. We got rid of her.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Oh. I just remembered movies with the character's name in
the title. Who doesn't show up? The Born, The Born Legacy.
That might have been a Legacy sequel early on The
Born Legacy. Yeah, that was stupid, a movie taking place
at the same time as Born three.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
I think that was the Jeremy Renner one. That's the
only one I didn't see was it any good. I
remember not liking it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I didn't even see when they brought Matt Damon back
for the actual fourth one, Jason Bourde.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
That's when they were starting to title movies just off
of the character.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
They had John Rambou and then they had Rocky Balboa,
which I think they didn't change to what was it Rocky?
Did they call it Rocky Bilboa?

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Yeah, they called it Rocky. No, John Rambo got changed
to just Rambo. Rocky Balboa stayed Rocky Balboa.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
They called it just Rambo.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Yeah no, no, I mean like literally just just Rambo,
like just do it. It's just my favorite is because
I still haven't seen the last Rambo movie. But then
they called it Last Blood. I'm like, we're back to
the blood title.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
What the fuck? First Blood, second Blood, last Blood.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
First Blood, Yeah, first Blood, Rambo two Rambo three yea.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
And then that was like now you see me where
they know they fucked up and drop the ball and
didn't the second one. Now you don't. So now the
story started.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
On Bad Boys for Life being the third one, it's
like you know you're making a fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Yeah, they screwed up. So the titles and movies are
so funny you have Predator Predators, the Predator Preditor. I mean,
it's just it's a disaster, tony h oh. I guess
I'll address it here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
People want me to be upset about the new Predator
movie being PG.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Uh no, because there's no you know, there's no humans
in the movie, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yeah, that's all alien blood.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah, that's well, that's the funny thing. All the humans
are actually the robots from Aliens. So the NPAA, which
everyone has known for years, is totally fault. They're like, oh,
those people are getting their heads cut off. Are is
the blood red? No, it's white, okay yeah. Pg thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Oh, doesn't make any Although it would be fun if
el Fanning was just like swearing like a sailor in
the movie. That'd be kind of fun hearing because she's
such like a you know, dainty pretty woman, and it'd
be funny you're just seeing her swearing up a storm.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
I'm excited that it's Pg. Thirteen because I do you
like Prey?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
I love Prey. I like Pray. I like Prey. Yeah,
I'm excited because it's the same. It's the same cruise.
I like the animated movie. They did over the summer too.
That was fun too. Do you think we're going to
actually see a alien from Independence State in the film
or we're just gonna get that teaser skull that they showed.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
They were just getting that skull. I don't know if
that would be hard to fit in the continuity at.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Will Smith is on the back of one Welcome Back
to Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
No, I'm excited that it's PG thirteen because the twins
love Predator, because I show the malely versus Predator, because
it's the only PG thirteen one, like, this is the
only one I'll not get in trouble showing you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
It's incredibly stupid, but it's a fun movie. Yeah, but
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
So I'm like, I hope a PG thirteen Predator movie
that's not too bad comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
You don't like it, it's it's it's just dumb, but
it's fine. Corelia, I, Okay, you like twenty three, you
like Alien three. We don't have to talk about this,
you know what, you no know what?

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
We do watch a lot Adam the fan film Batman
dead End where he fights the alien and Predator from
like the early two thousands. I haven't seen Oh, dude,
that's like one of the most famous fan films. It's awesome.
It's only eight minutes long. We've watched it like five
hundred times.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
I only watch anti fan films. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
watch I watch movies by people that hate movies. Oh good, good, good. Yeah.
I'll make a movie for you. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Okay, I'll make a Tron Legacy two.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
How about that? Oh that would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Dylan would be for nine ninety nine. Just want to
see Tony dance them and almost seventy k Yes, we
are almost at seventy thousand subscribers. We're at sixty nine
point nine thousand subscribers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Adham, that's hot. I'm catching up to you, Adam, I'm
catching up. I don't think you are. Tony. I've been
pulling away. I've been pulling away. I'm at We're at
one hundred and eleven thousand over on them does Movies. Yeah, yeah,
you need me on more, I think is the thing.
You just have to have me on more. We need

(01:28:07):
we need to both be wearing tront outfits and then
we can really sing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Well, that's all your fault, that's all your fault. Uh,
little Lemmy for ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Tron suit. Yeah, that tron suit is sweet. I do
like it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
And you made that, you customize that. That's what you
talk about. This is screen used, Adam. This isn't red
masking tape, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Am I am legitimately giving you a compliment. I wouldn't
even have the creativity to think to put red tape
on a black suit. So I'm I do think it
is cool. And you have you have the chair already,
the kind of the first chair that comes up when
you google gamer chair. Yeah, I had that same chair
before I moved. Oh, I want to try something. I'm

(01:28:51):
want to try something happen. I'm trying. I get Holy shit,
ladies and gentlemen, Tony got the man, the myth legend
himself in the house. Jared leto Is on Hack the Movies.
Oh my god, Jared, Jared, What was the book, Jared?
What was the most difficult process for you when making

(01:29:13):
tron Aries. What was the biggest challenge to overcome.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Getting my hair to look really wet and slick back
the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
You don't just wake up like that, Jared. I feel
like it's always like that, even when you were joker.
It was wet and slicked back, just a different colors.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
No, No, actually, more time went into my hair in
this movie than all of Suicide Squad's makeup.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
It's actually impressive. And it wasn't CG. That's really your hair. No,
I actually am offended you even questioned that. Oh my god,
this poster smells so fucking bad.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
I can't even do the bit. What the hell is
up my theater? Holy shit, I'm gonna get sick now.
Who knows how many people fucking touch that thing?

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Have you ever seen? I'm sure you've seen Road Trip,
right of course, I know you know the pancake scene
where they take the pancakes in the back and make
their way with them.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Yes, the ratios and like, yeah, I imagine that's what
they did with your poster before they handed it to you.
What's so md for five dollars, Tony? Can you at
least omit the new ohmit, the new Identity disc and
Legacy is better?

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
You mean admit admit I think you admit. Yeah, I'm
gonna admit you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
I did think the new Legacy disc was better.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
But I'm gonna admit that, Adam, I'm omitting it. Fuck
that New Legacy. The aries ones are stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
They're triangles now right, just his was a triangle everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Else because he's so different. He's so different. Now the
next thing is going to be It's gonna be a
square in the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Also, But I guess do the programmers not look like
they're users anymore? I was waiting for like a real
world Jarret leto to show up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
At some point.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Why doesn't if Dylinger made it, shouldn't it look like
Evan Peters?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Right? Yeah, I mean there's a lot of questions in
the trontomrse, but you just can't ask him because you'd
blow up lead out your ears.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Piko jet black for five dollars five dollars, Adam, Do
you trust Tony when he says that he doesn't give
women infections despite the rumors about him and Julia Fox
castag Tony hates condoms.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I don't believe the rumors at all because I don't
think Tony's ever been with a woman a Dana's life.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
How dare you? How dare you? I've been with several No, uh,
did you see him?

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
It wasn't great, it was mummy, It was very lame. Yeah,
Julia Fox was terrible in it. Uh, and she's terrible
in real life. Ozzie dragoon for two dollars. Tony may
do better if he sang more limp biscuit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
I do a lot of limbiscuit on my channel, Tony.
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Adam Tron for music by Law.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Oh my god, could you imagine that logo starts to
do the tilt so you think your special?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
I can see it in your eyes, and yeah, let
it don't come back. Red Durst is the director. He
could direct it to He could some things transway. Oh,
I can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I'm Flynn's great great grandson, and I'm gonna hack into
the grid.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Let's go eat it all for the nookie. Come on,
come on, come on, it's sticking up. It's just it's perfect.
It's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
What are you gonna do when you make break into
the mainframe?

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I'm gonna break stuff. And then that song. It's just
one of them days, feeling like.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Enough did any last minute super chats in that you can?

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
I hope you enjoyed Hard Tron Trilogy review. It was
just mostly stock. Adam. He has a new song by
the way he came out with a new song a
few weeks he was that Y two K movie. Yeah,
as himself. I didn't care for that. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Could he have digitally dated himself like Jeff Bridget.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yeah, that would have been, you know, in Zoolander as himself. Yeah,
he is, he is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
I've been even to rewatch the first Zoolander.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
It's been a minute. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Well, yeah, get any last minute chats and Adam, what
do you got going on on your channel?

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Tony Well, I put a video out just before we
went live. I'm trying to get videos out almost every day.
I put him out six six out of the seven
days is my goal. Okay, because I'm a busy woman
over here. I I did a video today actually on
black Phone two, which I enjoyed. I'm not no spoilers.

(01:34:05):
The only thing I will say is it takes place
in Colorado again, up in the mountains, at a cabin
lake in the middle of winter during a blizzard. And
everyone in this film it fucking seems like they're at
the beach because no one at any point is cold
in this entire movie, Like at one point, at one point,
a guy falls into the lake and he gets out

(01:34:27):
and like, oh shit, he's gonna have like hypothermia, he's
gonna be cold. No, he's fine, he's just he just
walks it off. He's like the next day, he's like,
let's get back out there. What it's like thirty degrees
in the water. It's probably zero degrees outside, and everybody's
just like wearing T shirts. It's just it's the weirdest
shit they I don't get it. But besides that and

(01:34:49):
not being able to see their breath, which kind of
takes me out, you know, being in Minnesota, you see
your breath when it's like forty degrees outside. Uh, it's
a good it's a good sequel. It's basically, you know,
it's Nightmare on Elm Straight now, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
I'm fine with because probably never getting a Nightmare and
Elm Street and if we do, it'll probably be bad.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
So yeah, And I don't I just don't think the
Grabber is a cool villain. He's just kind of, you know,
compared to like Freddy Krueger or Jason Vorhees or something,
he's just kind.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Of like I haven't seen him. I haven't seen him
in this new form, So I don't know. Did you
see I auditioned to be Art the Clown and terrify
her for I did?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
I saw your clip. It was very funny. Yes, you've
got a great job too. The well, the only issue
I had with it is you spoke a lot and
Art doesn't actually talk, so that might have might have
hurt you a little in the long run. You know. Yeah,
maybe next time, just maybe do some mannerisms movie.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
So what you're saying is that I should like Jared
leto make sure a sequel gets made where we ignore
Art the Clown and I play a different character that's
basically the same thing, but I can talk. Yes, I
think then you would have Terrifier aries coming.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
So oh, Tron the Clown, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, was supposed to be a clown, I think, but
they changed it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I don't really have any other announcements. I mean, I
have the review for obviously Black Phone two as well
up and I reviewed the Netflix trender of last week,
which was The Woman in Cabin ten Tony. I'm sure
you covered it on the channels. I did not. I
did not. Yeah. Kira Knightley, who I typically enjoy, was
kind of just a sad Sack in this film review

(01:36:32):
for that one, and then coming up, I, uh, what
do I have coming up? Oh? Shit, I have to
watch thirty one zombie movies. So I've I've gotten through
most of them. I have like half a dozen left
because at the end of the month, I'm ranking thirty
one zombie movies in a collaboration with a couple other channels.

(01:36:52):
And uh, it's a big deal, Tony, because I went
into it thinking I'd seen a bunch of them and
then realizing I have actually not seen a lot of
zombie movies that are that are pretty classic, some of
which are older than Tron and I think hold up
far better that Black and original Night of the Living Dead.
The original I thought was just damn good, just the

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damn good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
And my version or I added myself to the movie.
Remember when I did that? I added myself to Night
Living Dead?

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I was good. I don't remember that, but I don't
have to watch that now it's twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
I remember I did Hack the Living Dead. I inserted myself, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry, my memory is that
of a goldfish. I'm saying you like you're living dead.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
I'm shocked you didn't like Tron and it's perfect, but
you're like, you're Living Dead's good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Because again, I think it's the it's the aspirations combined
with the technology at the time, doing a quaint zombie
movie with you know, practical effects, and then putting it
in black and white so you can mask any sort
of like is shoes you might have. That's a lot
easier to do than hand rotoscoping actors with black and

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white backgrounds and then adding like eight layers of colorado.
It's just a harder build to swallow. The one I
was the most disappointed with was actually Don of the Dead.
The original. I thought I was gonna Yeah, I thought
I was gonna love that one. I found the Zack
Snyder wanted to be far superior in every way. Yeah, well,

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but both work.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
That's one of the cases where the renake doesn't bother me,
like they both work.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
I like the original more.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I'm actually sad because I whenever I'm in Pittsburgh, I
go to the cemetery from Living Dead and the mall
from Dawn of the Dead. But Walmart has purchased the
mall and I think they might be planning on demolish
which I'm bummed about. If you ever go there, they
have a plaque of George Ramiro a bust of Georgia
Marrow in the mall.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
It's pretty cool. That's really cool. Yeah, I'm I'm hit
and miss with Romero movies. Some of them really work
for me. Uh. A Day of the Dead I thought
was actually pretty damn good. I like that. I thought
it was really cool, kind of going the whole like
chaining them up and experimenting and I'm down in that
little basement or Yeah. So it's been a fun ride.
It's been a fun ride. And one that one that

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I just rewatched that I initially did not like it
all with my wife when we saw Grindhouse in theaters.
I think it was maybe more because death Proof I
think sucks and it just put a bad taste our
mouth here. I thought was a lot of fun. The
second time watching it, I had a blast with it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
I think I got lucky watching those separate when they
hit DVD in theaters because I got to take like
a day in between them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
So I guess I didn't have the effect.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
I like death Proof, but I can understand not liking it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
It was a lot. It was a lot to see
in the theater at one time, especially with the retro
style that they put on it. And yeah, anyway, it was.
It's been fun. So that's coming up at the end
of the month and otherwise, you know, whatever is new,
I'll check out in a review of course. If it's
getting some decent traction, awesome, awesome, So check all that out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Clips and streams.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Lately, I've been streaming Silent Hill f I got a
steam code today for a new game coming out. It's
an old like FMV style game. I choose your own
adventure FMV like throwback game. I'm excited to play that.
And uh yeah, Patreon and all that fun stuff. Follow
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Probably not Monstermania because I forgot to buy a table. Yeah,
and uh that's it from us. Goodbye, everybody, see you