May 21, 2023 • 20 mins
Ted Deutch is the CEO of the American Jewish Committee, an advocacy organization in New York which advances the issues impacting Israel and the global Jewish community. Deutch is a former member of the House of Representatives from the state of Florida. In May of 2023, Deutch was appointed by President Biden to serve on the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. Deutch gives us the status of Antisemitism in the United States.
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(00:05):
January thirtieth, nineteen thirty nine,during a two and a half hour speech,
German dictator Adolf Hitler tells a crowdof thousands that if another World War
were to break out, he predictedthe annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.
Eight months later, Germany invaded Polandand World War Two began, and
(00:30):
Hitler continued his genocide of the Jewsinside Germany itself. The Elizas is the
famous stadium of Nuremberg. On Mayeighth, nineteen forty five, the war
in Europe ended chapter of this famoussouthern German city. The American flag blouped
out the Swastika after the dust settled. It was estimated that more than six
(00:52):
million Jews died in the Holocaust,but what didn't die was anti Semitism.
In fact, it flourished throughout historyand today, almost eighty years later,
anti Semitism has evolved and become evenmore dangerous, largely due to technology.
If Adolf Hitler had an Instagram account, the Holocaust would have happened a lot
quicker because the public would have beenconvinced a lot sooner. This is the
(01:21):
iHeartRadio original podcast Hate Modern Anti SemitismI'm investigative journalist Steve Gregory in Los Angeles.
Ted Deutsch is the CEO of theAmerican Jewish Committee, an advocacy organization
in New York which advances the issuesimpacting Israel in the global Jewish community.
In May of twenty twenty three,Deutsch was appointed by President Biden to serve
(01:45):
on the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. I asked him about the state of
anti Semitism in America. Look,we know that antisemitism continues to rise.
We saw that in the FBI numbersthat have just been released. But AJC
also has released a survey that isreally alarming, which shows not just the
number of anti Semitic attacks, butthe impact that it's having on the community
(02:08):
and on America as a whole.Ninety percent of the people in America overall
believe that anti Semitism is a seriousproblem, and four and five Jews say
that anti Semitism is increased over thelast five years. And then, finally,
most concerning, over forty percent ofJews living in America feel less secure
(02:29):
today than they did just a yearago. It's a it's an enormous problem,
not only for the Jewish community becauseanti Semitism never just stops with the
Jews. This is a problem thatimpacts other minority groups, society as a
whole, and ultimately the democracy thatwe live in that allows us to live
(02:51):
free. And in that round tableted, did you discuss the causes,
the root issues and why the spikein these hate crimes in just hate in
generals? There are there was aconversation about about how this hatred is allowed
to spread. Ultimately, anti Semitism, jew hatred is a conspiracy theory and
(03:14):
it's it's existed for thousands of years, and the impact of anti Semitism on
the Jewish community, as I said, is real. We come to this
when someone tweets, someone with millionsof followers on social media tweets and shares
vitriolic hatred of Jews. It invitesthe anti Semites who have been under their
(03:39):
rocks to come out into public.It normalizes anti Semitism. It says that
it's somehow okay to unfurled banners overhighway bridges and to distribute anti Semitic literature
and to shine anti Semitic statements flaton the sides of buildings. That's that's
(04:00):
the challenge that we have, soit's not a question of where it comes
from. Look, there's a spikein the conspiracy spreading of conspiracy theories.
We saw this through COVID in particular, but at this moment, we've seen
the spread because of the prevalence ofanti semitism on social media, the fact
that social media companies need to domore to enforce their own rules against this
(04:24):
kind of of hate speech that causestrouble and society and poses a threat to
the community. And what were solutions, any solutions offered at this round table.
Look, there were lots of suggestions, some to deal with the immediate
threat and the need to have availableresources to harden Jewish facilities, but beyond
(04:46):
that, we need a national plan, and AJC has worked with the White
House to really move forward on awhole of government approach our all the action
against anti Semitism provides ways for everysector of government to fight anti Jewish hatred,
(05:08):
and this effort that's been launched bythe administration as a result of the
meeting we had will lead, wehope to a real national action plan that
will provide ways for the federal government, state government's businesses, law enforcement,
all of them to come up withideas to combat this vile hatred that again
(05:32):
poses a risk to society as awhole. Wouldn't you agree that this all
starts in the home. Maybe there'snot enough being done to educate young people
on hate it's impact, I guessthe overall disintegration of values. And I
mean, don't you think it reallystarts in the home. Well, it's
(05:54):
interesting, it's a really interesting question. On the one hand, Sure,
but what does that even mean anymore? Again, it's it's not just it's
it's not just what gets passed onin a family setting from from parents to
kids. It's what kids are seeingevery day on social media and the impact
(06:20):
that that has. But of courseit look, education is a huge part
of this. What we've found isthat there are so many of these anti
Semitic trope, so much language thatgets used that again comes from from this
(06:41):
these long standing conspiracy theories that peopleoften don't even recognize as anti Semitism.
They don't know the impact it has. That's why AJC put out a put
out a document called Translate Hate,just to give people a better understanding of
how the words that are said,words that they may learn at home,
words that they may learn by theirspending time on the internet, that those
(07:03):
words have real impact. And it'strue. That's true by the way,
across all forms of hatred. Educationis key in helping people understand how words
can lead to actions. Actions leadto violence, and in the case of
the Jewish community, that violence hasoften led to expulsion from countries. It
(07:24):
led to the near annihilation of theentire Jewish people during the Holocaust. That's
why education is such a key,and that does start at home. Absolutely,
social media I know I was talkingwith folks from the Leasenthal Center,
and social media has played such ahuge role in as as you mentioned.
(07:45):
What kinds of conversations and dialogues haveyou had with the platforms the people that
run these platforms. Are they amenableto your solutions? Are they at least
letting you have a seat at thetable. The good news is social media
companies have usually robust hate speech policies, certainly relative to where they were just
(08:07):
a few years ago. But giventhe number of American Jews who experienced anti
semitism online, which is well morethan half eighty five percent of young people,
we have to do more than justprovide lip service. The Facebook and
Twitter and other companies have there's acrossroads between free speech and hate speech,
(08:33):
and they have to decide which roadwe're on and making sure that they're not
making it easy for people to transmithate speech that can lead to violence is
a key part of what they do. So, look, we think they
can remove anti Semitic content that violatestheir own policies. They can strengthen their
own hate speech policies to include allforms of anti semitism. That there's a
(08:58):
modern form of anti semitism. It'sdefined. There's a working definition of that
that the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance hasput out. It's been adopted by dozens
of countries. Social media companies couldadopt that. They could ensure greater transparency
in drafting their policies. They're algorithmsthat are used to send the information directly
(09:18):
to your feed. There's more transparencythat can be provided there to make sure
that it's not just sending more andmore hatred to further the aims of the
anti anti semites, the hate mongers, others who are trying to use their
technology. So there's a lot morecommunity standards I think it's something that could
(09:41):
help a great deal, and we'vehad conversations, we have ongoing conversations with
social media companies, and we've hadsuccesses and we in terms of taking down
Holocaust denial and and addressing some ofthose challenges, but there's there's a lot
more that can be done. Makeit easier to report anti semitism, the
(10:03):
systems that are in place, tomoderation systems, to make sure that they're
able to identify coded anti semitism andhate speech, all of these things.
We know the kinds of things thatcan be done, and we're working as
best we can to encourage them todo it, but ultimately there's real responsibility
that they have to take action themselves. I want to ask if you have
(10:24):
any idea where pockets in America.Are there any particular spots in the country
that are worse than others. Well, it's a really interesting question. And
we know we know that more Jewsin the South experienced anti semitism than in
other regions, sought more say it'sa problem, more than in other regions,
(10:46):
Fewer, and it's the interesting Ithink the really interesting point here is
fewer adults surveyed in the South knewa Jewish person or were familiar with Judaism.
So that gets back to the wholequestion of education and the importance of
education, not just education about antiSemitism and the conspiracy theories about the hatred
(11:07):
of Jews, but actually helping peopleunderstand more about the Jewish community in America
and the Jewish community's contributions to America. And that's a key part of this.
Overall, though the survey of Jewsand the general population tends in the
West anyway, it tends to mirrorthe national averages. It's right about the
(11:30):
same number, about forty percent feelless secure than a year ago. The
numbers are slightly higher in the Westernpart of the United States, just in
terms of whether people avoided wearing certainitems or carrying things that would identify them
as being Jewish, it's over twentyfive percent, which is again, if
(11:52):
you just take a moment, thinkthat more than a quarter of American Jews
go out of their way to avoidbeing identifiably Jewish. That tells us how
serious this problem is. And onething I noticed, Ted, we spoke
to the head of a couple ofschools here in the Los Angeles area.
And the thing that caught me bysurprises the amount of security at each of
(12:15):
these Jewish day schools. And Ican't even imagine going through that security protocol
every day. But that's where we'reat in society now. We have to
have armed security, a very fortifiedforce of security so that children can go
to kindergarten. Steve, that's it'sright. And if you the reason it's
(12:37):
so important is not just because ofwhat it says about the moment and the
fact that in my prior life asa member of Congress, we started a
bipartisan task for us to come atanti semitism after rising anti semitism and violent
antisemitism in Europe. We couldn't haveimagined we would be at this point where
(13:00):
where Jewish institutions have any it's arranged. Sometimes it's one security person. Often
there's a whole force that you needto go through in order the metal detectors,
etc. To get into the building. And the message at schools for
young kids, the message that itsends as they go to school to have
(13:22):
to greet the police officer and thento go through the metal detector and to
recognize that this force is there allof the time, it sends an unfortunate
message about but honest, I thinkmessage about the society that we live in
right now, and certainly no onewants to have to have those security guards
(13:46):
in place. But we've seen violentepisodes in synagogues in the United States.
We've seen the violence take place atJewish institutions around the world, and sadly
that's it's now where we are hereand it lasting. Steve, just if
you think about some communities where theyhave churches and synagogues in the same area
(14:11):
that the synagogue that you go past, that that the churchgoer goes past on
a Saturday and sees all of thatsecurity out in front, I think has
to be struck the next morning onSunday morning when they go to church and
they walk right up the steps andinside, never fearful for a second about
being there as as Christians. It'sthe way I think we need to think
(14:33):
about this. I want to askyou to speaking of educating people, what
are the top myths about Jewish people? What are the myths about Jewish people?
What are the things that people thinkthey know about Jewish people but they're
absolutely wrong about. Listen, thereare and there are all kinds of statements
that have been used to advance antiSemitism. That the blood blood libel,
(14:56):
I mean, for the the ideathat uh that the Jews, this goes
back to them to the Middle Ages. The fact that that conspiracy theory that
Jews killed Christian children and use theirblood to bake mazza. Right, It's
an outrageous, outrageous thing to thinkabout. But you see that currently when
(15:18):
when people talk about when people talkabout what happens in Israel, where they
use the same sort of blood libeland advance the same kind of horrific uh
narrative. You see that the samething when people talk about when when people
talk about Jews as as the asglobalists that that control the world, that
(15:41):
control Hollywood, that control the bankingsystem. I mean this is these are
the types of conspiracy theories that havebeen used for for ages to try to
undermine Jews place in the Jews placein society and to put them UH at
risk. We've seen this in theway that people talk about Jews and money,
(16:07):
something that the Nazis used that thatother conspiracy theories when they talk about
the the rothchilds and again all toadvance these dangerous narratives that are are false
and unfortunately go back for a longtime. The fact that the fact that
people have suggested that uh that theJewish community this we see a lot now,
(16:34):
that the Jewish community as as awhole, uh feels some some dual
loyalty to Israel, which Israel acentral part of the identity for for Jews
around the world. But this narrativethat there is this dual loyalty that says,
because you feel close to this room, you can't be a good citizen
of your own country. Again,something that's that's used routinely to put Jews
(16:59):
at risk. These are these arethe kinds of things. Look, these
are the kinds of things that translatehate, which, by the way,
translate hate dot org if I can, if I can count. It is
a good place for people to readmore about what these conspiracy theories are and
how they've led so often to toreally dangerous outcomes and violent outcomes throughout history.
I want to ask you, youknow, we've talked about this spike
(17:21):
in crimes, the spike in inhate incidents across the country, across the
world. It's getting a little worse, but do you see it ever getting
any better? I, of coursealways believe that they can get better.
That's that's why AJC spends so muchtime focusing on our inner religious activities,
working with the Christian community and theMuslim community, and the Hindu community and
(17:47):
others. It's the it's the reasonwhy we do so much work with other
groups, with the Black community andand the Hispanic community and UH, and
our efforts are efforts to work withwith all different groups who have faced challenges.
That partnership we have with the withthe Asian American community. I mean
(18:08):
time and time again. The kindof hatred that we see as expressed as
anti Semitism against Jewish communities often isthe at its core, the same kind
of hatred that we see used againstothers. That the shooter who went to
Buffalo to that supermarket looking because itwas in a black neighborhood, that he
(18:30):
made clear he hated Jews, hehated blacks were in this together in this
fight. Same thing in El Paso, the shooter who went into that walmart
looking for the Latino community, wellhe uh, same thing. He made
clear that he has this passionate hatredof Jews and Latinos and immigrants, and
(18:52):
we were in this together. Soam I hopeful absolutely the work that we
do to build bridges with other communitiesand to show that there is this this
wall that exists between those of usof good conscience who are fighting hatred against
our own community and others, andthose who are espousing hatred. That's a
(19:15):
wall we need to continue to buildand to make sure that those relationships lead
to more positive outcomes. With that, Ted, I want to thank you
for your time. Ted Deutsche,the CEO of the American Jewish Committee,
thank you for your input and goodluck. Thanks thanks for having me.
I appreciate it. Steve Hate ModernAnti Semitism is a production of the KFI
(19:38):
News Department for iHeartMedia Los Angeles andthe iHeart podcast Network. The program is
produced by Steve Gregory and Jacob Gonzalez. To learn more about anti Semitism and
how you can join the conversation,go to translate hate dot org. That's
translate hate dot Org.
January thirtieth, nineteen thirty nine,during a two and a half hour speech,
German dictator Adolf Hitler tells a crowdof thousands that if another World War
were to break out, he predictedthe annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.
Eight months later, Germany invaded Polandand World War Two began, and
(00:30):
Hitler continued his genocide of the Jewsinside Germany itself. The Elizas is the
famous stadium of Nuremberg. On Mayeighth, nineteen forty five, the war
in Europe ended chapter of this famoussouthern German city. The American flag blouped
out the Swastika after the dust settled. It was estimated that more than six
(00:52):
million Jews died in the Holocaust,but what didn't die was anti Semitism.
In fact, it flourished throughout historyand today, almost eighty years later,
anti Semitism has evolved and become evenmore dangerous, largely due to technology.
If Adolf Hitler had an Instagram account, the Holocaust would have happened a lot
quicker because the public would have beenconvinced a lot sooner. This is the
(01:21):
iHeartRadio original podcast Hate Modern Anti SemitismI'm investigative journalist Steve Gregory in Los Angeles.
Ted Deutsch is the CEO of theAmerican Jewish Committee, an advocacy organization
in New York which advances the issuesimpacting Israel in the global Jewish community.
In May of twenty twenty three,Deutsch was appointed by President Biden to serve
(01:45):
on the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. I asked him about the state of
anti Semitism in America. Look,we know that antisemitism continues to rise.
We saw that in the FBI numbersthat have just been released. But AJC
also has released a survey that isreally alarming, which shows not just the
number of anti Semitic attacks, butthe impact that it's having on the community
(02:08):
and on America as a whole.Ninety percent of the people in America overall
believe that anti Semitism is a seriousproblem, and four and five Jews say
that anti Semitism is increased over thelast five years. And then, finally,
most concerning, over forty percent ofJews living in America feel less secure
(02:29):
today than they did just a yearago. It's a it's an enormous problem,
not only for the Jewish community becauseanti Semitism never just stops with the
Jews. This is a problem thatimpacts other minority groups, society as a
whole, and ultimately the democracy thatwe live in that allows us to live
(02:51):
free. And in that round tableted, did you discuss the causes,
the root issues and why the spikein these hate crimes in just hate in
generals? There are there was aconversation about about how this hatred is allowed
to spread. Ultimately, anti Semitism, jew hatred is a conspiracy theory and
(03:14):
it's it's existed for thousands of years, and the impact of anti Semitism on
the Jewish community, as I said, is real. We come to this
when someone tweets, someone with millionsof followers on social media tweets and shares
vitriolic hatred of Jews. It invitesthe anti Semites who have been under their
(03:39):
rocks to come out into public.It normalizes anti Semitism. It says that
it's somehow okay to unfurled banners overhighway bridges and to distribute anti Semitic literature
and to shine anti Semitic statements flaton the sides of buildings. That's that's
(04:00):
the challenge that we have, soit's not a question of where it comes
from. Look, there's a spikein the conspiracy spreading of conspiracy theories.
We saw this through COVID in particular, but at this moment, we've seen
the spread because of the prevalence ofanti semitism on social media, the fact
that social media companies need to domore to enforce their own rules against this
(04:24):
kind of of hate speech that causestrouble and society and poses a threat to
the community. And what were solutions, any solutions offered at this round table.
Look, there were lots of suggestions, some to deal with the immediate
threat and the need to have availableresources to harden Jewish facilities, but beyond
(04:46):
that, we need a national plan, and AJC has worked with the White
House to really move forward on awhole of government approach our all the action
against anti Semitism provides ways for everysector of government to fight anti Jewish hatred,
(05:08):
and this effort that's been launched bythe administration as a result of the
meeting we had will lead, wehope to a real national action plan that
will provide ways for the federal government, state government's businesses, law enforcement,
all of them to come up withideas to combat this vile hatred that again
(05:32):
poses a risk to society as awhole. Wouldn't you agree that this all
starts in the home. Maybe there'snot enough being done to educate young people
on hate it's impact, I guessthe overall disintegration of values. And I
mean, don't you think it reallystarts in the home. Well, it's
(05:54):
interesting, it's a really interesting question. On the one hand, Sure,
but what does that even mean anymore? Again, it's it's not just it's
it's not just what gets passed onin a family setting from from parents to
kids. It's what kids are seeingevery day on social media and the impact
(06:20):
that that has. But of courseit look, education is a huge part
of this. What we've found isthat there are so many of these anti
Semitic trope, so much language thatgets used that again comes from from this
(06:41):
these long standing conspiracy theories that peopleoften don't even recognize as anti Semitism.
They don't know the impact it has. That's why AJC put out a put
out a document called Translate Hate,just to give people a better understanding of
how the words that are said,words that they may learn at home,
words that they may learn by theirspending time on the internet, that those
(07:03):
words have real impact. And it'strue. That's true by the way,
across all forms of hatred. Educationis key in helping people understand how words
can lead to actions. Actions leadto violence, and in the case of
the Jewish community, that violence hasoften led to expulsion from countries. It
(07:24):
led to the near annihilation of theentire Jewish people during the Holocaust. That's
why education is such a key,and that does start at home. Absolutely,
social media I know I was talkingwith folks from the Leasenthal Center,
and social media has played such ahuge role in as as you mentioned.
(07:45):
What kinds of conversations and dialogues haveyou had with the platforms the people that
run these platforms. Are they amenableto your solutions? Are they at least
letting you have a seat at thetable. The good news is social media
companies have usually robust hate speech policies, certainly relative to where they were just
(08:07):
a few years ago. But giventhe number of American Jews who experienced anti
semitism online, which is well morethan half eighty five percent of young people,
we have to do more than justprovide lip service. The Facebook and
Twitter and other companies have there's acrossroads between free speech and hate speech,
(08:33):
and they have to decide which roadwe're on and making sure that they're not
making it easy for people to transmithate speech that can lead to violence is
a key part of what they do. So, look, we think they
can remove anti Semitic content that violatestheir own policies. They can strengthen their
own hate speech policies to include allforms of anti semitism. That there's a
(08:58):
modern form of anti semitism. It'sdefined. There's a working definition of that
that the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance hasput out. It's been adopted by dozens
of countries. Social media companies couldadopt that. They could ensure greater transparency
in drafting their policies. They're algorithmsthat are used to send the information directly
(09:18):
to your feed. There's more transparencythat can be provided there to make sure
that it's not just sending more andmore hatred to further the aims of the
anti anti semites, the hate mongers, others who are trying to use their
technology. So there's a lot morecommunity standards I think it's something that could
(09:41):
help a great deal, and we'vehad conversations, we have ongoing conversations with
social media companies, and we've hadsuccesses and we in terms of taking down
Holocaust denial and and addressing some ofthose challenges, but there's there's a lot
more that can be done. Makeit easier to report anti semitism, the
(10:03):
systems that are in place, tomoderation systems, to make sure that they're
able to identify coded anti semitism andhate speech, all of these things.
We know the kinds of things thatcan be done, and we're working as
best we can to encourage them todo it, but ultimately there's real responsibility
that they have to take action themselves. I want to ask if you have
(10:24):
any idea where pockets in America.Are there any particular spots in the country
that are worse than others. Well, it's a really interesting question. And
we know we know that more Jewsin the South experienced anti semitism than in
other regions, sought more say it'sa problem, more than in other regions,
(10:46):
Fewer, and it's the interesting Ithink the really interesting point here is
fewer adults surveyed in the South knewa Jewish person or were familiar with Judaism.
So that gets back to the wholequestion of education and the importance of
education, not just education about antiSemitism and the conspiracy theories about the hatred
(11:07):
of Jews, but actually helping peopleunderstand more about the Jewish community in America
and the Jewish community's contributions to America. And that's a key part of this.
Overall, though the survey of Jewsand the general population tends in the
West anyway, it tends to mirrorthe national averages. It's right about the
(11:30):
same number, about forty percent feelless secure than a year ago. The
numbers are slightly higher in the Westernpart of the United States, just in
terms of whether people avoided wearing certainitems or carrying things that would identify them
as being Jewish, it's over twentyfive percent, which is again, if
(11:52):
you just take a moment, thinkthat more than a quarter of American Jews
go out of their way to avoidbeing identifiably Jewish. That tells us how
serious this problem is. And onething I noticed, Ted, we spoke
to the head of a couple ofschools here in the Los Angeles area.
And the thing that caught me bysurprises the amount of security at each of
(12:15):
these Jewish day schools. And Ican't even imagine going through that security protocol
every day. But that's where we'reat in society now. We have to
have armed security, a very fortifiedforce of security so that children can go
to kindergarten. Steve, that's it'sright. And if you the reason it's
(12:37):
so important is not just because ofwhat it says about the moment and the
fact that in my prior life asa member of Congress, we started a
bipartisan task for us to come atanti semitism after rising anti semitism and violent
antisemitism in Europe. We couldn't haveimagined we would be at this point where
(13:00):
where Jewish institutions have any it's arranged. Sometimes it's one security person. Often
there's a whole force that you needto go through in order the metal detectors,
etc. To get into the building. And the message at schools for
young kids, the message that itsends as they go to school to have
(13:22):
to greet the police officer and thento go through the metal detector and to
recognize that this force is there allof the time, it sends an unfortunate
message about but honest, I thinkmessage about the society that we live in
right now, and certainly no onewants to have to have those security guards
(13:46):
in place. But we've seen violentepisodes in synagogues in the United States.
We've seen the violence take place atJewish institutions around the world, and sadly
that's it's now where we are hereand it lasting. Steve, just if
you think about some communities where theyhave churches and synagogues in the same area
(14:11):
that the synagogue that you go past, that that the churchgoer goes past on
a Saturday and sees all of thatsecurity out in front, I think has
to be struck the next morning onSunday morning when they go to church and
they walk right up the steps andinside, never fearful for a second about
being there as as Christians. It'sthe way I think we need to think
(14:33):
about this. I want to askyou to speaking of educating people, what
are the top myths about Jewish people? What are the myths about Jewish people?
What are the things that people thinkthey know about Jewish people but they're
absolutely wrong about. Listen, thereare and there are all kinds of statements
that have been used to advance antiSemitism. That the blood blood libel,
(14:56):
I mean, for the the ideathat uh that the Jews, this goes
back to them to the Middle Ages. The fact that that conspiracy theory that
Jews killed Christian children and use theirblood to bake mazza. Right, It's
an outrageous, outrageous thing to thinkabout. But you see that currently when
(15:18):
when people talk about when people talkabout what happens in Israel, where they
use the same sort of blood libeland advance the same kind of horrific uh
narrative. You see that the samething when people talk about when when people
talk about Jews as as the asglobalists that that control the world, that
(15:41):
control Hollywood, that control the bankingsystem. I mean this is these are
the types of conspiracy theories that havebeen used for for ages to try to
undermine Jews place in the Jews placein society and to put them UH at
risk. We've seen this in theway that people talk about Jews and money,
(16:07):
something that the Nazis used that thatother conspiracy theories when they talk about
the the rothchilds and again all toadvance these dangerous narratives that are are false
and unfortunately go back for a longtime. The fact that the fact that
people have suggested that uh that theJewish community this we see a lot now,
(16:34):
that the Jewish community as as awhole, uh feels some some dual
loyalty to Israel, which Israel acentral part of the identity for for Jews
around the world. But this narrativethat there is this dual loyalty that says,
because you feel close to this room, you can't be a good citizen
of your own country. Again,something that's that's used routinely to put Jews
(16:59):
at risk. These are these arethe kinds of things. Look, these
are the kinds of things that translatehate, which, by the way,
translate hate dot org if I can, if I can count. It is
a good place for people to readmore about what these conspiracy theories are and
how they've led so often to toreally dangerous outcomes and violent outcomes throughout history.
I want to ask you, youknow, we've talked about this spike
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in crimes, the spike in inhate incidents across the country, across the
world. It's getting a little worse, but do you see it ever getting
any better? I, of coursealways believe that they can get better.
That's that's why AJC spends so muchtime focusing on our inner religious activities,
working with the Christian community and theMuslim community, and the Hindu community and
(17:47):
others. It's the it's the reasonwhy we do so much work with other
groups, with the Black community andand the Hispanic community and UH, and
our efforts are efforts to work withwith all different groups who have faced challenges.
That partnership we have with the withthe Asian American community. I mean
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time and time again. The kindof hatred that we see as expressed as
anti Semitism against Jewish communities often isthe at its core, the same kind
of hatred that we see used againstothers. That the shooter who went to
Buffalo to that supermarket looking because itwas in a black neighborhood, that he
(18:30):
made clear he hated Jews, hehated blacks were in this together in this
fight. Same thing in El Paso, the shooter who went into that walmart
looking for the Latino community, wellhe uh, same thing. He made
clear that he has this passionate hatredof Jews and Latinos and immigrants, and
(18:52):
we were in this together. Soam I hopeful absolutely the work that we
do to build bridges with other communitiesand to show that there is this this
wall that exists between those of usof good conscience who are fighting hatred against
our own community and others, andthose who are espousing hatred. That's a
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wall we need to continue to buildand to make sure that those relationships lead
to more positive outcomes. With that, Ted, I want to thank you
for your time. Ted Deutsche,the CEO of the American Jewish Committee,
thank you for your input and goodluck. Thanks thanks for having me.
I appreciate it. Steve Hate ModernAnti Semitism is a production of the KFI
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News Department for iHeartMedia Los Angeles andthe iHeart podcast Network. The program is
produced by Steve Gregory and Jacob Gonzalez. To learn more about anti Semitism and
how you can join the conversation,go to translate hate dot org. That's
translate hate dot Org.
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